[01:14] <superm1> cornell, wasn't it working before
[01:14] <superm1> and it just stopped?
[01:15] <superm1> i wouldnt blame it on configuration should that be the case
[01:15] <superm1> DaveMorris, did you do a quick test run on amd64?
[01:16] <cornell> Worked last evening... when I added SD.  before I did thatI was watching TV, I think I watched afterwards for a bit afterwards.  This evening, nada.  Rebooted, nada.
[01:16] <cornell> The one and only configured capture card seems to be correct, the PVR-350, /dev/video2 (matches what dmesg) says.
[01:17] <cornell> I do note that when I enter alsamixer, the default (0) is the other card.  If I start it with -c1, I get the hauppauge
[01:17] <DaveMorris> I've not got access to amd64 hardware here
[01:17] <cornell> (I think it's the hauppauge, it's not the ASUS)
[01:18] <Daviey> superm1: iso of amd64 is up
[01:19] <superm1> cornell, it really sounds like this other card is messing your box up
[01:19] <superm1> do you need it in there?
[01:21] <cornell> I'm hoping one day to get it set up, so I can have two inputs, but I'm beginning to think, maybe I should just pull it.
[01:21] <superm1> Daviey, i'm going to have to get going.  i'm meeting someone for dinner tonight.  Once you guys get things up and running on your server, please make sure md5sums are available for both, and if you can test the ISO - please do so.  Just a quick install run (dont change languages though :))
[01:21] <superm1> tgm4883, once both isos are up, can you download them and generate torrents
[01:21] <superm1> and get them on the tracker
[01:21] <Daviey> superm1: http://uk.weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/
[01:22] <cornell> Think that might be the best path, superm1: shutdown, pull the card, bootup?
[01:22] <Daviey> DaveMorris: can you amd64 test it tommorow?
[01:22] <superm1> later tonight when i return, i'll contact chris and ben dailey and them to mirror from uk.weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org
[01:22] <superm1> and i'll grab them myself and test what i can
[01:22] <Daviey> tgm4883: have you tested your iso?
[01:22] <superm1> barring any significant problems lets plan to announce tomorrow afternoon
[01:22] <Daviey> is it working okay?
[01:22] <DaveMorris> If I wake up in the morning
[01:23] <Daviey> heh
[01:23] <DaveMorris> as I'm helping someone move tomorrow morning
[01:23] <superm1> i have an amd64 system (its running 32 bit though normally) that i should likely be able to at least boot the iso and make sure apps run, but i can't do an install with it
[01:23] <Daviey> Has somebody got an i386 build they have tested?
[01:23] <superm1> Daviey, i do
[01:23] <Daviey> superm1: what is your upload speed?
[01:23] <DaveMorris> I can't do an install either as they are work machines
[01:23] <superm1> 256-512k
[01:24] <Daviey> I can't, for some reason build it on this box!
[01:24] <superm1> depending on near by neighbors
[01:24] <Daviey> superm1: reckon you could leave it uping?
[01:24] <Daviey> whilst you go out?
[01:24] <superm1> yea i can do that
[01:24] <superm1> just put in my public key
[01:24] <superm1> to the mythbuntu user
[01:24] <superm1> and i'll scp/sftp it in
[01:25] <Daviey> k
[01:25] <Daviey> can you add your public key yourself?
[01:25] <superm1> um i can't login right now
[01:25] <superm1> i dont know pw
[01:25] <Daviey> doh
[01:25] <frank23> superm1: can you check out https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/135431
[01:25] <cornell> If I pull the card (that I don't have configured) will I have to reinstall/update/whatever anything, superm1
[01:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 135431 in mythtv "mythtv-database depends on update-notifier only" [Undecided,New] 
[01:25] <cornell> ?
[01:26] <superm1> cornell,  you may need to update video2 to be video0
[01:26] <superm1> but that's about it
[01:26] <superm1> frank23, yes i saw it.  I wasn't aware that adept-notifier was available on kubuntu :)
[01:26] <superm1> i'll see what i can do about it, but this sru process is such a freaking mess.
[01:27] <frank23> superm1: ok. because update-notifier needs 10 or so more packages in dependancies
[01:27] <superm1> right
[01:27] <cornell> Ah... without the other card, hauppauge may ... move up in the pecking order, superm1
[01:27] <superm1> right
[01:31] <cornell> That would be boot up, hit mythtv-setup /capture cards
[01:31] <superm1> right
[01:32] <tgm4883> superm1, yea i'll get the torrents up, where are they going to be up at? mythbuntu.org?
[01:32] <tgm4883> daviey, i tested my iso, everything checks out so far
[01:37] <cornell> Came up with 350 as video0, superm1
[01:40] <cornell> Can't watch TV, it's recording... watch the recording... got sound
[01:41] <batrix> hello can someone explain to me why some channels on mythtv won't come in but on tvtime they do? also there is a big lag and echo in the audio with mythtv
[01:41] <cornell> irw
[01:42] <cornell> oops
[01:44] <cornell> mmm....  Can't watch tv, all inputs are in use.... but watch recordings doesn't indicate anything being recorded.
[01:45] <tgm4883_laptop> batrix, perhaps you scanned for channels with tv time and used the tms setting in mythtv?
[01:46] <batrix> no i used the zap it scan and filled the database
[01:52] <cornell> Still can't watch tv, superm1, no available inputs
[01:53] <cornell> mmmm Capture cards, one, pvr350, video.  Input connections, one, video2, could not open etc...
[01:54] <cornell> oooh...  capture cards details shows video0, but the list shows video2...
[01:58] <cornell> Deleted all capture cards, configured 350, checked input connections, don't recall that I had to fix anything.  ended, skipped mythfilldatabase (already done this evening) and started frontend.  Can't watch... but this time, it is recording something ;-)
[01:58] <batrix> anyone here using a winfast 2000xp rm card?
[02:01] <batrix> can someone help me with getting my remote working please?
[02:01] <tgm4883_laptop> which remote?
[02:02] <batrix> leadtek winfast coolcommand
[02:05] <cornell> Ah... remote... that's the next project ;-)  At least I have my keyboard ;-)
[02:07] <tgm4883_laptop> batrix, did you follow the guide for lirc?
[02:07] <batrix> yeah i'm working on it
[02:07] <batrix> finally found one thats good i think
[02:07] <cornell> Care to share, batrix?
[02:08] <batrix> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30612&highlight=lirc
[02:08] <tgm4883_laptop> i wouldn't follow tht
[02:09] <batrix> why not?
[02:09] <tgm4883_laptop> April 29th, 2005
[02:10] <batrix> why would that matter all you have to do is change kernel versions...
[02:10] <tgm4883_laptop> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty#head-df5eb79017ad18224d2f5a517ca4ba2ef446e373
[02:11] <tgm4883_laptop> how about because you dont have to build from source anymore?
[02:13] <batrix> good point :)
[02:14] <tgm4883_laptop> and if you follow the guide it will work
[02:14] <tgm4883_laptop> :)
[02:17] <batrix> did ya?
[02:17] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[02:17] <tgm4883_laptop> its in a box now
[02:17] <batrix> i'm cheap only spent 35 on this card
[02:17] <batrix> more or less just something to play around with
[02:18] <tgm4883_laptop> it was an ok card, but i much prefer the pvr-150 i have now
[02:19] <batrix> how do i figure out what the remote is?
[02:19] <batrix> it has the remote pic but idk which config to dl
[02:20] <batrix> http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/leadtek/
[02:23] <tgm4883_laptop> http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/leadtek/Y04G0004.jpg
[02:23] <tgm4883_laptop> thats the remote?
[02:24] <batrix> yes
[02:24] <tgm4883_laptop> http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/leadtek/Y04G0004
[02:25] <tgm4883_laptop> ^^ thats your file
[02:25] <batrix> i tried to start lirc but it says its not configured
[02:25] <tgm4883_laptop> http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/leadtek/Y04G0004
[02:25] <tgm4883_laptop> did you rename Y04G0004 to .lircrc
[02:33] <tgm4883_laptop> oh sorry
[02:33] <batrix> ?
[02:33] <tgm4883_laptop> did you rename Y04G0004 to lircd.conf
[02:33] <tgm4883_laptop> that that file and start from here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty#head-df5eb79017ad18224d2f5a517ca4ba2ef446e373
[02:33] <benanz1> I have trouble installing mythstream on Mythbuntu
[02:33] <batrix> i loaded the lirc now and it doesn't hang
[02:33] <batrix> i do the irw and it says connection refused
[02:33] <benanz1> "/usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/liblibmythtream.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"  --  I think "liblibmythtream.so" should be "libmythtream.so" but that's what it wants after fresh compile.  I tried doing a symbolic link to the real "libmythstream.so" but it doesn't work.  Any ideas?
[02:33] <tgm4883_laptop> benanzl, no ideas sorry.  I'm working on it though
[02:33] <benanz1> are you having same problem?
[02:33] <tgm4883_laptop> everyone is
[02:33] <tgm4883_laptop> and i'm the maintainer so i wouldn't count on it for the moment.  Best to probably uninstall that for now
[02:34] <tgm4883_laptop> i welcome any input though
[02:34] <Alowishus> what's the recommended command for upgrading Feisty to 0.20.2 at the shell?  a simple 'aptitude upgrade' winds up with mythtv-backend-master' held back
[02:35] <benanz1> OK.  I had mythstream running running about two months ago just fine, then I moved to Mythbuntu and this broke.  Maybe I'll try an older mythstream version.  are there any others available?
[02:36] <tgm4883_laptop> alowishus, has 20.2 cleared proposed yet?
[02:36] <Alowishus> tgm4883_laptop: no that I know of
[02:36] <Alowishus> tgm4883_laptop: sorry I should have added that i have -proposed in my sources.list
[02:37] <tgm4883_laptop> benanz1, there isn't an older deb
[02:37] <Alowishus> or is it better to just use synaptic?
[02:38] <tgm4883_laptop> i got the source from debian and packaged it for ubuntu.  You could get it from the dev, but it wouldn't be packaged
[02:40] <batrix> tgm4883_laptop, any idea why it says connection refused when i type irw?
[02:40] <tgm4883_laptop> batrix
[02:40] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[02:41] <benanz1> I'll try to compile the 0.17 version from a year ago against latest mythbuntu and see how it does
[02:41] <tgm4883_laptop> sounds good, let me know benanz1
[02:42] <tgm4883_laptop> batrix, what user are you running it at?
[02:44] <batrix> sudo
[02:44] <batrix> i tried both
[02:44] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[02:44] <tgm4883_laptop> are you logged in as the mythtv user?
[02:45] <batrix> no
[02:45] <batrix> does lirc only work with mythtv?
[02:46] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[02:46] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[02:48] <batrix> watching the chiefs vs rams man the chiefs suck this year so bad
[02:52] <benanz1> mythstream-0.17 wont compile with latest mythtv.  I think it was aimed at the 0.19 codebase anyway
[02:55] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, let me know when alpha4 is built.  I think im going to a movie tonight so i may not build it till late
[02:56] <tgm4883_laptop> batrix, im not sure why it is saying connection refused
[02:56] <tgm4883_laptop> are you modules loaded?
[02:56] <batrix> try dmesg?
[02:56] <tgm4883_laptop> where is your lircd.conf file?
[02:56] <batrix> i get lirc_dev with dmesg
[02:56] <batrix> /etc/lirc
[02:57] <tgm4883_laptop> so it is /etc/lirc/lircd.conf?
[02:57] <batrix> yes
[02:57] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[02:57] <tgm4883_laptop> dmesg | grep -i lirc
[02:58] <batrix> says lirc_dev
[02:59] <tgm4883_laptop> what module did you load for your remote?
[03:01] <batrix> gpio i2c
[03:05] <batrix> thats right isn't it?
[03:07] <benanz1> there's a Gutsy build from Ubuntu that just got built today but isn't in the repos yet.  Any idea if it's going to be broken? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythstream/0.17.2-0ubuntu1/+build/382202
[03:07] <benanz1> for mythstream
[03:07] <tgm4883_laptop> benanz1, yea it's broken
[03:07] <tgm4883_laptop> i already tried it
[03:08] <benanz1> k
[03:08] <batrix> is that correct tgm4883_laptop?
[03:08] <tgm4883_laptop> from gutsy, the mythbuntu ppa, and from the debian maintainer
[03:08] <tgm4883_laptop> sec batrix, just finished up dinner.  Let me check
[03:08] <tgm4883_laptop> all broke
[03:08] <batrix> kk
[03:08] <tgm4883_laptop> benanz1, i have no idea why it's getting built as liblibmythstream
[03:09] <tgm4883_laptop> you could try building 17.2 from source and seeing if that works
[03:10] <benanz1> I grepped through every file in the 0.17.2 source and there's absolutely no mention of "liblibmythstream.so" -- I can't figure out why it's building it like that.
[03:10] <tgm4883_laptop> lol
[03:10] <tgm4883_laptop> benanz1, i did the same
[03:10] <tgm4883_laptop> it has to be something that is happening at compile time
[03:11] <batrix> grr this i frustrating :(
[03:11] <benanz1> hmmm...that makes me wonder if there's a missing "/" somewhere in the path that's tripping GCC up.
[03:12] <benanz1> that might explain why we're getting "liblibmythstream.so"  instead of "../lib/libmythstream.so"
[03:12] <tgm4883_laptop> could be, although it's ending up in the right dir
[03:12] <benanz1> that's right
[03:13] <benanz1> although I don't know why it would be in a /lib/ dir
[03:14] <batrix> any idea why its saying connection refused?
[03:14] <tgm4883_laptop> batrix, i think the modules may be lirc_dev
[03:14] <tgm4883_laptop> lirc_gpio
[03:15] <tgm4883_laptop> where did you find your modules?
[03:15] <batrix> ubuntu repos
[03:15] <batrix> i looked at another person that has a complete guide setting it up etc.. and it is gpio
[03:15] <batrix> but what about l2c?
[03:15] <tgm4883_laptop> batrix, sorry, um.  Where did you find that gpio i2c is the right module
[03:15] <tgm4883_laptop> where is this guide?
[03:16] <tgm4883_laptop> benanz1, i noticed that all of the plugins use ...mythtv/lib/...
[03:16] <batrix> http://web.missouri.edu/~datcnc/htpc_single.html#htpc6
[03:19] <tgm4883_laptop> and you added the modules to /etc/lirc/hardware.conf
[03:20] <batrix> no
[03:20] <tgm4883_laptop> how far in  the ubuntu guide did you get?
[03:21] <batrix> just to where it wants me to test the remote...
[03:22] <tgm4883_laptop> well the hardware.conf part is toward the top
[03:22] <tgm4883_laptop> sudo apt-get install lirc lirc-modules-source module-assistant
[03:22] <tgm4883_laptop> did this get done
[03:23] <batrix> yeah
[03:23] <tgm4883_laptop> and this
[03:23] <tgm4883_laptop> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lirc-modules-source
[03:24] <batrix> all i had to do for the modules is add lirc_gpio right?
[03:24] <batrix> for the hardware.conf
[03:25] <tgm4883_laptop> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty#head-a92867560358810554d029b8a963c9c4c59a0b87
[03:25] <tgm4883_laptop> no you need to set load modules to true
[03:26] <batrix> i did that also
[03:26] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[03:26] <tgm4883_laptop> then you built the modules?
[03:26] <batrix> yes
[03:27] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[03:28] <tgm4883_laptop> lets modprobe the lirc_gpio driver
[03:28] <tgm4883_laptop> this do this and cross your fingers
[03:28] <tgm4883_laptop>     *
[03:28] <tgm4883_laptop>       sudo /etc/init.d/lirc start
[03:28] <tgm4883_laptop>       $ irw
[03:29] <batrix> i fixed it thanks :)
[03:29] <batrix> i just started completely over
[03:29] <tgm4883_laptop> so irw is working now?
[03:29] <tgm4883_laptop> glad it works now
[03:29] <batrix> yes
[03:29] <batrix> :) thanks a lot
[03:29] <batrix> this will load auto at boot?
[03:30] <tgm4883_laptop> afaik, yea it will auto load.  if not, we can set it to auto load
[03:30] <tgm4883_laptop> but i think the guide makes it auto load
[03:30] <batrix> hmm its not workin with tvtime...
[03:31] <tgm4883_laptop> batrix, .lircrc probably doesn't have tvtime settings
[03:31] <batrix> i can configure it for it though?
[03:31] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[03:32] <batrix> guide?
[03:33] <tgm4883_laptop> well you have to conform to the .lircrc method
[03:33] <tgm4883_laptop> which is
[03:33] <tgm4883_laptop> begin
[03:33] <tgm4883_laptop>     prog = vlc
[03:33] <tgm4883_laptop>     button = play
[03:33] <tgm4883_laptop>     config = key-play
[03:33] <tgm4883_laptop> end
[03:33] <tgm4883_laptop> for each key
[03:33] <tgm4883_laptop> so one for tvtime might say
[03:33] <tgm4883_laptop>     prog = tvtime
[03:34] <batrix> this is in my home dir?
[03:34] <tgm4883_laptop> you need the .lircrc file for every user that wants to use the remote
[03:34] <batrix> yeah but its in the home dir?
[03:35] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[03:35] <batrix> k
[03:35] <tgm4883_laptop> .lircrc is in the home dir
[03:35] <tgm4883_laptop> and you should be able to make a sym link to other users
[03:35] <batrix> sorry to be such a drag for you heh
[03:35] <tgm4883_laptop> np
[03:37] <batrix> i see how it says remote would that just be Y04g0033?
[03:37] <tgm4883_laptop> in the .lircrc?
[03:38] <batrix> yes
[03:38] <tgm4883_laptop> it probably shouldn't say that.  Where did you get the .lircrc file?
[03:40] <batrix> i just was looking at a guide
[03:40] <batrix> http://www.g-loaded.eu/2006/01/10/how-to-configure-and-use-lirc/
[03:40] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[03:41] <tgm4883_laptop> i see it now
[03:41] <tgm4883_laptop> it's if you have more than 1 remote
[03:41] <tgm4883_laptop> that part should match remote in your lircd.conf
[03:41] <tgm4883_laptop> you can also grab the tvtime file for your remote, as it just happens that there is one
[03:43] <batrix> really?
[03:43] <tgm4883_laptop> yea sec
[03:43] <batrix> what about one for xmms?
[03:43] <tgm4883_laptop> http://lircconfig.commandir.com/
[03:43] <tgm4883_laptop> you can configure it online for different programs and download the file
[03:45] <batrix> i see the remote codes but ya...
[03:53] <batrix> can i have multiple progs in one lirc file?
[03:53] <batrix> lircrc
[03:53] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[03:54] <tgm4883_laptop> see this for an example
[03:54] <tgm4883_laptop> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=lircrc.mceusb
[03:54] <batrix> for some reason its not working for me
[03:55] <batrix> i saved it to /home/user/.lircrc
[03:55] <tgm4883_laptop> in mythtv?
[03:55] <batrix> no for xmms
[03:56] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, im not sure for xmms (or any other program), but for mythtv you have to do this
[03:57] <tgm4883_laptop> ln -s ~/.lircrc ~/.mythtv/lircrc
[03:57] <tgm4883_laptop> so maybe
[03:57] <tgm4883_laptop> ln -s ~/.lircrc ~/.xmms/lircrc
[03:58] <batrix> nope :(
[03:58] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[03:58] <batrix> oh i need a plugin
[03:59] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[03:59] <tgm4883_laptop> sudo apt-get install xmms-lirc
[03:59] <tgm4883_laptop> there is a lirc plugin for xmms
[04:00] <batrix> yeah..
[04:00] <batrix> did that and no go still
[04:05] <tgm4883_laptop> batrix, im not sure then as I dont use xmms
[04:05] <tgm4883_laptop> maybe over in #xmms they know
[04:21] <tgm4883_laptop> jumpkick, whats up man
[04:21] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, has a few things I think
[04:21] <tgm4883_laptop> I don't know where he is right now though
[04:32] <batrix> hey tgm4883_laptop can you help me google where i need the file lircrc at for xmms?
[04:33] <tgm4883_laptop> google lirc xmms
[04:33] <batrix> i have been A LOT
[04:33] <batrix> just generally talks about the plugin
[04:36] <tgm4883_laptop> it looks like you might also need irexec on your system
[04:36] <tgm4883_laptop> i have to run, but download the plugin source and read the README file
[04:36] <batrix> yeah
[04:37] <tgm4883_laptop> also, make sure the buttons match up in the lircd.conf and .lircrc files
[04:37] <tgm4883_laptop> and see if there is now something in xmms that may allow you to configure where that file is kept
[04:40] <jumpkick> tgm4883: hey :D
[04:43] <jams> it reads your ~.lircrc file
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #135433 in mythtv (multiverse) "MythTV install (upgrade) failed exit status 127" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135433
[08:36] <superm1> tgm4883, you here?
[08:46] <superm1> tgm4883, well the images are ready at daviey's box if you want to get the torrents ready
[08:46] <superm1> uk.cdimages.mythbuntu.org
[09:11] <superm1> i tested amd64 in live frontend mode and walked through the installer (but didn't install) - things appear to be working as expected
[09:31] <laga> has everyone already ordered their viagra? ML is getting some spam ;)
[09:35] <laga> bah
[09:35] <laga> i need to become an ubuntero before i can use the PPA
[09:35] <cann> viagra ? its to expenisive, old fashion as i am i use a steel wire in a spiral around the "package"
[09:36] <laga> thagt's totally mcgyver!
[09:37] <laga> s/thagt/that/ stupid fingers
[09:37] <cann> you bet ! =)
[10:29] <Daviey> Should we rename the files to Mythbuntu-7.10-alpha4-$ARCH?
[10:39] <DaveMorris> just set up a symblink :P
[12:41] <laga> re
[01:00] <laga> superm1: is it intentional that i can still configure tv-out even if no proprietary video driver is detected by ubiquitY?
[01:21] <rambo3> any progress ?
[01:22] <laga> on what?
[01:32] <hexxeh|work> middle-eastern peace
[01:47] <laga> superm1: what is run between mythtv-setup and mythfrontend after install & reboot? it asked me if i wanted to run mfdb, i chose "no" and i got a terminal that had some "permission denied" messages for logfiles, IIRC. it vanished too quickly, though
[01:51] <hexxeh|work> mythfrontend, i think. as opposed to mythfrontend.real
[01:51] <hexxeh|work> or maybe i'm going senile
[01:53] <laga> in a terminal?
[03:11] <superm1> morning guys
[03:12] <superm1> okay so laga nothing is run between
[03:12] <superm1> its mythtv-setup, mythfilldatabase, mythfrontend
[03:39] <Daviey> superm1: are we annocing today?
[03:39] <superm1> Daviey, that's the plan
[03:39] <superm1> need to write a small blurb and such though still
[03:40] <superm1> and chris hasn't mirrored the ISOs
[03:40] <superm1> and tgm4883 needs to make the .torrents
[03:40] <superm1> and upload them .mythbuntu.org
[03:40] <Daviey> Well that's an easy 'nuff task
[03:40] <Daviey> I'll need to set up a torrent on uk.*
[03:41] <cann> hey hey hows it going ?
[03:42] <superm1> Daviey, well mythbuntu.org is running a drupal tracker
[03:42] <superm1> drupal torrent tracker
[03:42] <Daviey> owww
[03:42] <Daviey> nice
[03:44] <superm1> okay well i'm gonna run to class.  i'll write the blurb between classes
[03:44] <superm1> hopefully the other two tasks get finished in the meanwhile
[03:47] <Daviey> yep
[03:47] <Daviey> chris = polonix (sp?)?
[04:25] <tgm4883> Daviey, it looks like I get around 350kbs from you
[04:28] <DaveMorris> I'm getting 4.4MB/s from Daviey
[04:28] <Daviey> :)
[04:30] <DaveMorris> 4.31 MB/s was my average
[04:30] <DaveMorris> but was >5 at times
[04:30] <Daviey> pretty good
[04:42] <Daviey> how's that?
[04:48] <jams> so i read somewhere that mythbunta has the ability to autoadd tuners.  is that an alpha4 thing or just misinformation?
[04:50] <Daviey> jams: hmm.. keescook was working on it - don't know if he got it finished
[04:50] <jams> thanks
[04:51] <jams> i started on a python program, but then read that little blurb and figured why reinvent the wheel
[04:52] <Daviey> he'll no doubt be in later
[04:52] <jams> later as in withing the next 4 hours?
[04:53] <Daviey> shrugs
[04:53] <jams> guess i 'm just wondering what timezone
[04:54] <Daviey> PDT
[04:54] <jams> thanks
[04:54] <Daviey> UTC - 8 hours
[04:55] <jams> right
[04:56] <jams> works for me, nothing worse then attempting to catch a person that is in a significantly different timezone
[04:57] <Daviey> jams: well when i get up in the morning I can often catch superm1 just before he goes to bed
[04:57] <Daviey> Mythbuntu has a 24hr workforce :)
[04:58] <jams> heh
[05:07] <tgm4883> much better Daviey, now im getting 351kbs :)
[05:08] <tgm4883> wait, i'm UTC - 8?
[05:08] <DaveMorris> jams: I believe someone is meant to be working on detecting the tuners and pulling down the required firmware
[05:09] <tgm4883> DaveMorris, AFAIK, that is postponed
[05:09] <DaveMorris> afaik in the future we also plan to populate mythtvsetup with sane defaults
[05:10] <tgm4883> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+spec/firmware-finder
[05:10] <tgm4883> the problem is that there is no infrastructure for that
[05:20] <hexxeh|work> i'm certain i had a script from somewhere to pull down firmares
[05:26] <tgm4883> anyone know around what time superm1 will be back?
[05:27] <hexxeh|work> aha, linuxkernelsourcetreeofcomekind/Documentation/dvb/get_dvb_firmware
[05:28] <tgm4883> hexxeh|work, i'm just going on what benjamin curtin gave for the reason
[05:28] <Daviey> tgm4883: he's in classes
[05:29] <tgm4883> ok
[05:29] <Daviey> he might pop in between..
[05:29] <hexxeh|work> i'm just going by experience
[05:29] <hexxeh|work> it doesn't autodetect, you need to tell it what firmware you want
[05:29] <hexxeh|work> which is, ooh, ten minutes' work?
[05:29] <tgm4883> im not sure, but I don't think he setup authenticated users to be able to upload torrents
[05:29] <Daviey> I'm pretty sure keescook was working on the auto part.. or was that just grphx cards?
[05:30] <tgm4883> hexxeh|work, well the thing is, we want to be able to auto detect cards or at least have the user select which card they have, then have the software download and install in the right spot
[05:31] <tgm4883> superm1 and I were throwing some ideas around about a week ago, but neither of us have the time to work on it
[05:31] <hexxeh|work> tgm4883, okay, but the work is still half done. the bit that needs doing is parsing lspci against a lookup table
[05:33] <hexxeh|work> i mean, it's only a 450 line perl script by the look of it, but it all looks easy enough
[05:33] <tgm4883> anyone thats planning on seeding, here is the structure of the downloads
[05:33] <tgm4883> that way we can be ready to go when superm1 gets back
[05:33] <Daviey> hexxeh|work: keescook was defiently working on parsing lspci
[05:34] <tgm4883> the iso and md5sum are both in a folder labeled mythbuntu_alpha4_i386, and mythbuntu_alpha4_amd64
[05:34] <Daviey> tgm4883: $ du -h # please
[05:35] <Daviey> ah.. that won't help - doesn't show files just folders
[05:35] <tgm4883> so if you get both files and stick them in that dir, then when I upload the torrent file you should just be able to point the torrent file to those locations and be up and running
[05:36] <Daviey> ./mythbuntu_alpha4_i386/mythbuntu-7.10~070830-i386.iso  etc?
[05:36] <tgm4883> yes
[05:36] <DaveMorris> how many people grab the torrents these days?
[05:36] <tgm4883> the md5sum is also in there
[05:36] <Daviey> tgm4883: can you start the torrent now?
[05:36] <Daviey> Then we'll announce it later?
[05:36] <Daviey> can i have the .torent?
[05:36] <tgm4883> I can't upload it.  I don't think superm1 has set permissions for uploading torrents for authenticated users
[05:37] <tgm4883> and I can't just give it to you, as the torrent's tracker gets set by the bttracker on mythbuntu.org
[05:37] <tgm4883> I can try and give it to you, but no guarentees
[05:37] <Daviey> k
[05:37] <tgm4883> and it wont connect until I can upload the torrent
[05:37] <tgm4883> but it wouldn't hurt if your heading to bed
[05:38] <DaveMorris> Daviey: is it your bedtime yet ;)
[05:38] <Daviey> i wish
[05:38] <Daviey> nearly hometime tho
[05:39] <Daviey> hmm.. choices.. ctorrent or rtorrent
[05:39] <hexxeh|work> Daviey, so someone's working on lspci... and the download/extract part is done...
[05:39] <Daviey> yeah.. ask keescook when he arrives how it is going
[05:40] <keescook> hi!
[05:40] <hexxeh|work> Daviey, here's a contribution! "cp *.fw /lib/firmware"
[05:40] <Daviey> keescook: hey
[05:41] <Daviey> you were working on lspci parsing, right?
[05:41] <keescook> I ditched the lspci parsing.  after talking with upstream, the best approach is fixing the v4l drivers to include details about the card that way.
[05:41] <Daviey> jams: ^
[05:41] <keescook> I have a patch from them that I need to test but have been slammed with other work for a while
[05:41] <Daviey> tgm4883: how is the .torrent going?
[05:41] <Daviey> pm linky?
[05:42] <tgm4883> Daviey, I don't have a tracker yet to upload to
[05:42] <tgm4883> I have both torrents though if you want them
[05:42] <jams> so iguess the answer is "still working on it"
[05:42] <Daviey> tgm4883: will drupal change the .torrent contents?
[05:43] <tgm4883> kinda
[05:43] <tgm4883> I can manually set the tracker data, which I have done.  The torrent module also sets the tracker data, which in theory shouldn't change from what I have set it to
[05:44] <tgm4883> since it should be setting it to the same tracker
[05:44] <Daviey> tgm4883: i need to go soon..
[05:44] <Daviey> Wanted to get it all set before i left
[05:45] <tgm4883> ok sec
[05:45] <tgm4883> i'll send you the torrents
[05:45] <tgm4883> and it should just be trying to connect until we get it up
[05:45] <Daviey> Well if they won't work, there's no point
[05:45] <tgm4883> in theory, should work
[05:45] <Daviey> ah
[05:45] <Daviey> okay
[05:45] <tgm4883> email?
[05:45] <Daviey> any chance you can put them somewhere i can wget them?
[05:46] <tgm4883> yea sec
[05:46] <Daviey> otherwise email is fine
[05:47] <tgm4883> http://files.weilandhomes.com/mythbuntu_alpha4_i386.torrent
[05:47] <tgm4883> and amd64 for the other one
[05:47] <Daviey> ta
[05:48] <Daviey> geez.. that was slow resolving
[05:48] <tgm4883> well us west coasters are laid back :)
[05:49] <Daviey> hmm.. should i limit the speed..
[05:49] <tgm4883> only if you want to :)
[05:50] <Daviey> I'll try them without
[05:55] <Daviey> right.. that should work
[05:55] <Daviey> I'm guessing ctorrent allows the file to be a symlink
[05:56] <tgm4883> i use deluge
[05:56] <Daviey> deluge eh?
[05:56] <tgm4883> yep
[05:56] <tgm4883> at least on my feisty install
[05:56] <Daviey> ah.. i need a console one
[06:01] <Daviey> $ ctorrent mythbuntu_alpha4_i386.torrent
[06:02] <Daviey> ^ hardly that advanced :)
[06:02] <tgm4883> well, one of these days I will stick a torrent client on my fileserver and get it off my desktop.  But, priorities
[06:03] <Daviey> well torrentflux is a nice http interface
[06:03] <Daviey> (in the repo, but src is nicer IMO)
[06:03] <tgm4883> hmm
[06:05] <hexxeh|work> torrentflux is lovely. it's on my mythbackend
[06:06] <Daviey> same here... but i don't want it on the uk mirror
[06:07] <hexxeh|work> pfft, as if they have anything as advanced as computers in the uk
[06:07] <hexxeh|work> anyway, gohometime
[06:07] <Daviey> tgm4883: mythbuntu.org "Page Not Found" is badly formed
[06:07] <Daviey> hexxeh|work: ttfn
[06:08] <tgm4883> ugh, I agree
[06:08] <tgm4883> thats the default one
[06:08] <tgm4883> hexxeh|work, whats a computer?  I run mythtv on my abacus
[06:10] <Daviey> tgm4883: ffs http://mythbuntu.org/admin/settings/bt_tracker >:(
[06:11] <tgm4883> yea, only superm1, can get to that
[06:11] <Daviey> why?!
[06:11] <tgm4883> he's the only administrator
[06:11] <tgm4883> there is a setting for that, but he would have to give it to all authenticated users
[06:12] <tgm4883> although i think he can make another user group
[06:12] <Daviey> authenticated users = only us?
[06:13] <tgm4883> i know
[06:13] <tgm4883> yep
[06:13] <tgm4883> although we can add users
[06:13] <Daviey> pfft..
[06:13] <tgm4883> what needs to happen is another user role getting added.  mythbuntudev or something
[06:14] <tgm4883> currently there are only 2 roles
[06:14] <tgm4883> anon, auth, and admin
[06:14] <tgm4883> and there can be only 1 admin
[06:14] <Daviey> :S .. on pegasys i had root access and admin access on drupal..  Guess i'm no longer trusted :`(
[06:14] <tgm4883> well it was setup in a hurry
[06:15] <tgm4883> so maybe we can get extra things set soon
[07:21] <Daviey> back
[07:21] <DaveMorris> are the torrents active yet?
[07:22] <tgm4883> nope
[07:22] <tgm4883> waiting for superm1
[07:22] <tgm4883> :(
[08:46] <tgm4883> hmm
[08:47] <Daviey> arg
[08:48] <tgm4883> superm1_ yay
[08:48] <superm1_> hey tgm4883
[08:48] <superm1_> what's up
[08:48] <tgm4883> can you see if the upload torrent is enabled for authenticated users in drupal :)
[08:48] <superm1_> sure
[08:49] <tgm4883> a few of us have been waiting for the torrent to get uploaded
[08:49] <superm1_> well someone could have sent me an email or something :)
[08:49] <tgm4883> doh!
[08:49] <tgm4883> my bad
[08:49] <superm1_> i'd say or called me, but i left my mobile at home
[08:50] <tgm4883> whoa
[08:50] <superm1_> woah there is a new group made?
[08:50] <superm1_> "mythbuntu dev"
[08:50] <superm1_> huh?
[08:50] <tgm4883> why is mythbuntu.org so slow
[08:50] <tgm4883> ?
[08:50] <tgm4883> interesting
[08:51] <superm1_> well according to group permissions anyone (mythbuntu-dev or not) should be allowed to upload a torrent
[08:52] <tgm4883> hmm
[08:52] <tgm4883> then we gots us a problem
[08:52] <superm1_> go to create content->
[08:52] <superm1_> upload torrent
[08:52] <tgm4883> yea
[08:52] <tgm4883> every time i try to attach torrent, doesn't do it
[08:52] <tgm4883> it just blanks that part of the page back to default
[08:53] <tgm4883> you moved the 4 files to the root dir when installing right?
[08:53] <superm1_> when installing?
[08:53] <superm1_> oh when installing the torrent plugin
[08:53] <superm1_> yea i remember doing that
[08:53] <tgm4883> when installing the plugin
[08:53] <tgm4883> k
[08:53] <superm1_> i copied them not moved them
[08:53] <tgm4883> ok
[08:53] <tgm4883> that should be fine
[08:55] <superm1_> yea and all the permissions are on for the bit torrent tracker
[08:57] <tgm4883> did you install the dev or beta plugin?
[08:59] <tgm4883> superm1_, do you want to try uploading the torrents?
[08:59] <superm1_> dont remember
[08:59] <superm1_> tgm4883, sure i guess i can give it a shot
[08:59] <tgm4883> files.weilandhomes.com
[09:00] <Daviey> superm1_: sorry for not sending an email.. assumped you would be here when you returned
[09:00] <superm1_> Daviey, na i've had school related errands all day.  I won't be back home for at least another hour
[09:01] <Daviey> As i said.. you need to drop the school lark
[09:01] <superm1_> hmmpfh.  it doesnt attach for me either
[09:01] <tgm4883> super strange
[09:02] <Daviey> superm1_: should we set up a temp tracker?
[09:02] <Daviey> or use the usual for this time?
[09:02] <superm1_> Daviey, well i'd really like to get things working on this one
[09:02] <superm1_> since we have full control over it then
[09:03] <superm1_> if its not sorted out in the next hour when i get home, i'll have my public key at least
[09:03] <superm1_> and cant ssh into mythbuntu.org
[09:03] <Daviey> where is mythbuntu.org
[09:03] <superm1_> also it looks like devel.atrpms.net is back up, so i can mirror that
[09:03] <Daviey> Axel?
[09:03] <superm1_> and we can announce weekly builds on both boxes too
[09:03] <superm1_> no its jumpkick's
[09:04] <Daviey> oh
[09:04] <tgm4883> wtf
[09:05] <superm1_> tgm4883, ?
[09:06] <tgm4883> hmm
[09:06] <tgm4883> just to see what happens, add the torrent extension to the upload file type
[09:06] <tgm4883> make sure you do it for auth users
[09:07] <superm1_> try now
[09:08] <tgm4883> hmm
[09:08] <tgm4883> this may shed light on it
[09:08] <tgm4883> new error message
[09:08] <tgm4883> The selected file mythbuntu_alpha4_amd64.torrent can not be attached to this post, because the disk quota of 1 MB has been reached.
[09:08] <superm1_> ha
[09:08] <superm1_> easy to solve
[09:08] <laga> re
[09:09] <superm1_> cheers laga
[09:09] <tgm4883> I blame laga ;)
[09:09] <superm1_> tgm4883, now
[09:09] <superm1_> try
[09:09] <tgm4883> hmm
[09:09] <tgm4883> sec
[09:10] <laga> it wasn't me
[09:11] <tgm4883> hmm, it kinda works
[09:11] <tgm4883> I can upload the torrent now
[09:11] <superm1_> kinda?
[09:11] <tgm4883> but get a warning message
[09:11] <tgm4883> warning: array_key_exists() [function.array-key-exists] : The second argument should be either an array or an object in /home/mythbuntu/public_html/modules/bittorrent/bt_torrent.module on line 348.
[09:12] <tgm4883> and I still can't just use the torrent node upload thing, I have to use the regular file uploader, when then auto puts it in the torrent upload thing
[09:13] <superm1_> torrent doesn't appear to work either
[09:13] <superm1_> hmp
[09:15] <Daviey> if it helps.. it seems the tracker is working..
[09:16] <tgm4883> Daviey, are you connected to the tracker?
[09:16] <Daviey> tgm4883: seems to be
[09:17] <tgm4883> hmm
[09:17] <Daviey> TRACKER FAILURE REASON: Torrent does not exist, please consider uploading it.
[09:17] <Daviey> \ 0/0/1 [0/13761/0]  0MB,0MB | 0,0K/s | 0,0K E:0,795
[09:17] <Daviey> so.. i assume yes
[09:18] <tgm4883> ah
[09:18] <superm1_> okay well i'm running for a few more errands.  i'll be back in ~40 or so i think
[09:18] <tgm4883> so the tracker is working, just not the upload thing
[09:18] <Daviey> superm1_: bye
[09:18] <tgm4883> interesting
[09:18] <superm1_> cya
[09:19] <laga> cool
[09:19] <laga> my mysqld is now automagically woken up via WOL if mythfrontend can't connect
[09:20] <laga> yay :)
[09:21] <Daviey> so it assumed mysqld has crashed and restarts it, via WOL?
[09:22] <Daviey> seems clever.. didn't know WOL could do that
[09:22] <laga> no
[09:22] <laga> it assumes the db host is shutdown. ;)
[09:22] <Daviey> ah
[09:22] <Daviey> thats better
[09:23] <Daviey> i was going to say..  why not restart via ssh
[09:23] <laga> you can make it execute "/etc/init.d/mysql restart" as well
[09:23] <laga> box shuts down properly as well and wakes up for new recordings.
[09:23] <laga> looks like i'll be saving some power.
[09:23] <Daviey> great!
[09:23] <Daviey> does it wake up in plenty of time?
[09:24] <laga> about one minute i'd say.
[09:24] <laga> i could optimize that, but i'd rather underclock that box to save even more power
[09:24] <laga> s/more/MOAR/
[09:24] <Daviey> so there is no reason that the db could via remotely hosted on a server, and have no machines switched on @ home
[09:25] <Daviey> ?
[09:25] <laga> "the db could via remotely hosted " <- parse error
[09:25] <laga> sorry, it's been a long day
[09:25] <Daviey> laga: heh
[09:25] <Daviey> the db could be remotely hosted?
[09:26] <laga> sure, why not?
[09:26] <Daviey> but you would need a myth-backend aswell surely?
[09:26] <laga> i could swear i saw a separate option somewhere to start the master backend
[09:26] <Daviey> ie. a database is dumb - so what fires off WOL?
[09:26] <laga> oh
[09:26] <laga> Daviey: mythfrontend
[09:26] <Daviey> geez.. now i am confused.
[09:27] <laga> :)
[09:27] <Daviey> I mean, waking up for recordings
[09:27] <laga> right
[09:27] <Daviey> how?
[09:27] <laga> mythbackend has support for that. you use nvram-wakeup or /proc/acpi/alarm to tell the BIOS to wake up at a specific time
[09:27] <Daviey> oh.. thought it was something clever
[09:27] <laga> there's a nice article at wiki.mythtv.org for "acpi wakeup"
[09:27] <laga> hum
[09:28] <laga> seems pretty clever to me ;)
[09:28] <Daviey> Yeah.. i know about that.. but what happens if you update mythweb, and set a recording
[09:28] <Daviey> :)
[09:28] <laga> mythweb won't work if the backend is down AFAIK ;)
[09:28] <Daviey> true
[09:28] <laga> i could also write the wakeup time to my openwrt device and use wol from there.. ah well, too complicated ;)
[09:29] <Daviey> wonder if you can have a 'dumb' backend on a remote server to fix that
[09:29] <laga> you could just wake up the server if you needed to schedule a recording
[09:30] <Daviey> laga: bah.. to simple
[09:30] <tgm4883> whoa
[09:30] <Daviey> too
[09:30] <laga> seems that WOL even works through some routers. there's a website that'll send wol packets to your computers at home ;)
[09:30] <tgm4883> Daviey, is it seeding for you now?
[09:30] <Daviey> seems to be
[09:30] <Daviey> or not giving the error at least
[09:31] <Daviey> but!
[09:31] <Daviey> for some reason it isn't recognising that i have 100%
[09:31] <Daviey> maybe doesn't like symlinks?
[09:31] <tgm4883> I think i know what it is
[09:31] <tgm4883> sec
[09:31] <tgm4883> can you get new torrent files?
[09:32] <tgm4883> and scrape the ones I gave you earlier?
[09:32] <Daviey> sure
[09:32] <tgm4883> ok sec
[09:32] <Daviey> Seems to be working tho
[09:32] <Daviey> only nobody pulling
[09:32] <tgm4883> I think the drupal module does something to it
[09:32] <tgm4883> makes it a little funky
[09:32] <tgm4883> well, not announced yet :)
[09:33] <tgm4883> Although, I'm wondering if we can have a second backup tracker in there
[09:33] <tgm4883> http://mythbuntu.org/node/40
[09:33] <tgm4883> http://mythbuntu.org/node/41
[09:33] <tgm4883> both torrents
[09:36] <Daviey> arg..
[09:36] <Daviey> .torrent link?
[09:36] <tgm4883> uh sec
[09:37] <tgm4883> forgot :)
[09:41] <tgm4883> http://files.weilandhomes.com/mythbuntu_alpha4_amd64.torrent
[09:41] <tgm4883> and i386
[09:41] <tgm4883> some weird things are happening at mythbuntu.org
[09:43] <Daviey> like what?
[09:43] <Daviey> ta for link
[09:43] <tgm4883> multiple links
[09:43] <tgm4883> an overly large number of reported leechers
[09:44] <Daviey> sorted
[09:44] <Daviey> ah
[09:44] <Daviey> That might have been me
[09:44] <Daviey> I left it trying to seed when i went out
[09:44] <Daviey> kept trying
[09:45] <tgm4883> you are the large number of leechers?
[09:45] <tgm4883> yea, i dont think it was you
[09:45] <tgm4883> the number was in excess of 1 trillion
[09:46] <Daviey> i left it for 3hrs :)
[09:46] <tgm4883> ah
[09:46] <Daviey> on both archs
[09:46] <tgm4883> could be then i suppose
[09:47] <Daviey> must be wrong.. there is no way ctorrent would hammer like that
[09:50] <Daviey> which one of you lurkers started torrenting eh? :D
[09:51] <tgm4883> hmm
[09:51] <tgm4883> laga perhaps?
[09:51] <DaveMorris> me
[09:51] <tgm4883> ah
[09:51] <tgm4883> sec
[09:51] <Daviey> DaveMorris: sure?
[09:51] <DaveMorris> although for some reason when I mv'ed the previous download iso in it didn't work
[09:52] <Daviey> DaveMorris: i386?
[09:52] <Daviey> You are downloading it?
[09:52] <DaveMorris> yeah, the amd64 is stalled
[09:52] <tgm4883> Daviey, the new torrents fixed that problem right?
[09:53] <Daviey> DaveMorris: just started seeding amd64
[09:54] <DaveMorris> yeah I can see 2 seeds for amd64 but I'm not connected to any
[09:56] <tgm4883> amsterdam anyone?
[09:56] <tgm4883> stockholm sweden?
[09:58] <DaveMorris> brb
[10:00] <tgm4883> :) seeding
[10:01] <tgm4883> Azureus?
[10:01] <DaveMorris> me
[10:01] <tgm4883> yep
[10:02] <Daviey> who am i?
[10:02] <tgm4883> Daviey, is that a philosophical question?
[10:03] <Daviey> DaveMorris = Azureus
[10:03] <Daviey> tgm4883 = Deluge
[10:03] <Daviey> Daviey = ?
[10:03] <tgm4883> Daviey = ctorrent?
[10:04] <superm1> superm1 = above Deluge + Azureus combined
[10:04] <Daviey> superm1 = lurjer
[10:04] <tgm4883> superm1 just uses brainwaves to download torrents :)
[10:04] <Daviey> lurker
[10:04] <superm1> i just walked in a few min ago
[10:05] <Daviey> superm1: how is the release notes going?
[10:05] <Daviey> I want to be abused!
[10:07] <tgm4883> glad to help
[10:07] <Daviey> ta
[10:10] <Daviey> I've upped 234MB of i386
[10:13] <superm1> Daviey, i'm working at trying to build apt-ftparchive on axel's box
[10:13] <superm1> still need to write release notes...
[10:13] <superm1> got tied up in other stuff today :)
[10:13] <Daviey> oh
[10:14] <Daviey> superm1: can't you just use the binary for apt-ftpa'
[10:14] <superm1> his box is a 64 bit
[10:14] <tgm4883> how about
[10:14] <superm1> and doesnt have any 32 bit libs on it
[10:14] <Daviey> bah
[10:14] <superm1> maybe i can grab the 64 bit apt-ftparchive
[10:14] <tgm4883> Alpha 4.  You should know what it does.
[10:14] <Daviey> superm1: is there not a 64bit deb for apt-ftpar?
[10:15] <Daviey> tgm4883: lunch?!
[10:15] <Daviey> it's 21:14!
[10:15] <tgm4883> yep
[10:15] <tgm4883> no, your wrong,  It's only 13:15 :)
[10:15] <superm1> no its 15:15
[10:16] <Daviey> DaveMorris: what's the time?
[10:16] <DaveMorris> 21:24
[10:16] <Daviey> whhhaaat?
[10:17] <tgm4883> no, it's Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:16:43 -0700
[10:17] <tgm4883> bunch of crazies
[10:17] <Daviey> Why is DaveMorris 8 minutes ahead of me
[10:17] <DaveMorris> my clock is skewed :(
[10:17] <Daviey> he's only ~60 miles away
[10:17] <tgm4883> DaveMorris is fast :)
[10:17] <Daviey> so i hear ;)
[10:18] <superm1> okay Daviey i can add ~/bin to my PATH, but what does ~/lib need to be added to?
[10:18] <superm1> LD something?
[10:18] <Daviey> erm
[10:19] <Daviey> not sure.. wait 1
[10:19] <Daviey> LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
[10:20] <Daviey> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$HOME/usr/lib:$HOME/usr/local/lib
[10:21] <Daviey> in bash_profile
[10:21] <superm1> argh. i knew this wouldnt work
[10:21] <superm1> it wants different versions of libraries
[10:21] <superm1> it depended on
[10:21] <Daviey> hmm
[10:21] <Daviey> what distro is he running?
[10:21] <superm1> el5
[10:22] <Daviey> wtf
[10:22] <Daviey> centos?
[10:22] <superm1> $ cat /etc/redhat-release
[10:22] <superm1> Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 5 (Tikanga)
[10:22] <Daviey> ah
[10:24] <Daviey> will an rpm not work?
[10:24] <superm1> i'm not a super user
[10:24] <superm1> and i didn't find one for apt-utils
[10:24] <Daviey> hmm.. maybe building from src is better then
[10:25] <Daviey> or your wget method from uk mirror?
[10:25] <Daviey> ie pre-signed?
[10:25] <superm1> no i was gonna wget from ppa
[10:25] <superm1> and then resign
[10:36] <benanz1> any news on the mythstream bug?
[10:41] <DaveMorris> I suppose I should do some more mythbuntu docs before it's too late
[10:42] <DaveMorris> got Masters work to do as well now though
[10:49] <superm1> argh it still doesn't work as expected
[10:49] <superm1> it didn't mirror properly
[10:49] <superm1> it made a bunch of \{\} files too
[10:49] <superm1> Daviey, could you post the release notes since i've gotta run?
[10:50] <superm1> new stuff being the control centre, login as a normal user
[10:50] <superm1> refresh ordering of installer pages
[10:50] <superm1> include mythstream
[10:50] <Daviey> Does mythstream work?
[10:50] <tgm4883> ugh, mythstream
[10:50] <superm1> no, but its included :)
[10:50] <superm1> known issues:
[10:50] <Daviey> yah
[10:50] <superm1> changing locale with activating vnc crashes installer
[10:50] <superm1> mythstream doesn't work
[10:51] <tgm4883> it's not a bug, it's an undocumented feature
[10:51] <tgm4883> oh
[10:51] <tgm4883> more known issues
[10:51] <tgm4883> links in ubiquity dont work
[10:51] <superm1> what are those?
[10:51] <superm1> oh right
[10:51] <superm1> forgot about that
[10:51] <Daviey> Hmm
[10:51] <superm1> its a gtk bug from what ~ubuntu-installer said
[10:52] <Daviey> tgm4883: wanna help write it
[10:52] <superm1> sorry i've been lacking here today guys :)
[10:52] <superm1> i'll try to check in later tonight
[10:52] <tgm4883> I would, but I have a few errands to run myself
[10:52] <tgm4883> stupid work getting in the way of mythbuntu :)
[10:53] <superm1> chris still didn't mirror the isos, i say we'll add his mirror once he does since we can edit posts and such
[10:53] <superm1> good luck :)
[10:53] <tgm4883> superm1, does editing that post resubmit the rss?
[10:53] <Daviey> superm1: I'll try, but i want it acked by somebody else
[10:53] <Daviey> tgm4883: on ubuntu planet, yes
[10:54] <tgm4883> ah
[11:00] <Daviey> tgm4883: but the date seems to be stuck
[11:00] <Daviey> ^ & time
[11:06] <tgm4883> Daviey, what do you mean?
[11:07] <Daviey> ie. new posts get top position on ubuntu planet
[11:07] <Daviey> If you edit or delete the post, it seems to stay where it was
[11:08] <Daviey> ie moving down the page
[11:08] <laga> how do i get to a normal openbox desktop in alpha 4?
[11:08] <Daviey> i deleted a post, and it stayed
[11:08] <tgm4883> ah ok
[11:09] <tgm4883> laga, exit the frontend, and when it gets to the login screen, change to a different session
[11:09] <laga> cool stuff. hum.
[11:10] <laga> superm1: is the control centre ready to be translated?
[11:11] <Daviey> tgm4883: What link can i embedded for download of the .torrent?
[11:12] <tgm4883> sec
[11:13] <Daviey> no rush
[11:13] <tgm4883> http://www.mythbuntu.org/torrent/download/40 for AMD64 should work
[11:14] <tgm4883> http://www.mythbuntu.org/torrent/download/41 for i386 should work
[11:14] <Daviey> cool
[11:14] <Daviey> Can you give them 'nice' names?
[11:14] <tgm4883> trying
[11:14] <Daviey> cool
[11:15] <tgm4883> although we may need superm1 to see where they are on the server
[11:15] <Daviey> erm..
[11:15] <Daviey> what US mirror do we have for the ISO's?
[11:16] <tgm4883> AFAIK, none yet
[11:16] <Daviey> oh
[11:17] <tgm4883> polorix hasn't mirrored yet
[11:17] <tgm4883> and foxbuntu is still building the server
[11:17] <Daviey> What about axel?
[11:17] <tgm4883> ??
[11:19] <Daviey> atrpm
[11:19] <Daviey> server
[11:19] <Daviey> Or is he only happy to provide a repo?
[11:21] <tgm4883> I don't think I can get you a friendlier link for you
[11:21] <tgm4883> and if you try to edit the node, the torrent disappears
[11:22] <tgm4883> the bittorrent module is acting a little funky
[11:22] <tgm4883> the the links above should link directly to the download
[11:22] <Daviey> it's a GSoC project, right?
[11:23] <tgm4883> the bittorrent module?
[11:23] <tgm4883> GSoC?
[11:23] <Daviey> google summer of code
[11:24] <tgm4883> ah
[11:24] <tgm4883> i believe so
[11:24] <tgm4883> whats strange though is it works fine on the mythbuntu test site
[11:27] <Daviey> :s
[11:27] <Daviey> Same drupal?
[11:27] <tgm4883> yep
[11:27] <tgm4883> i think anyway
[11:28] <tgm4883> the test site is on RHEL and has drupal installed from the drupal site
[11:28] <Daviey> tgm4883: both done as same user access level?
[11:29] <tgm4883> pretty much
[11:30] <tgm4883> the access levels are the same, but im the admin for the test sit
[11:30] <tgm4883> e
[11:30] <tgm4883> that would be the only difference there
[11:30] <tgm4883> the database should be the same as the test site was made from a backup of the main site
[11:32] <tgm4883> biab
[11:35] <laga> gah
[11:37] <laga> i'd have used x11vnc to beam the control centre to a vnc java applet in mythweb
[11:37] <laga> fortunately, x11vnc is built *without* ssl support
[11:37] <laga> that makes it really convenient to use over the internet! yay!
[11:38] <laga> ffs
[11:38] <Daviey> laga: lodge a bug, then make a package to put into the mythbuntu repo
[11:38] <Daviey> :)
[11:39] <laga> i've already filed a bug
[11:39] <laga> i wonder if i should file a bug in the debian tracker as well
[11:39] <benanz1> any news on the mythstream bug?
[11:39] <laga> what mythstream bug?
[11:40] <benanz1> when it compiles for mythbuntu it looks for liblibmythstream.so
[11:40] <laga> looks like x11vnc is a sync, indeed
[11:40] <laga> ah, right
[11:40] <laga> what looks for liblibmythstream.so btw?
[11:40] <Daviey> benanz1: hmm
[11:41] <Daviey> tried symlinking libmythstream.so liblibmythstream.so ?
[11:41] <DaveMorris> that seems wrong
[11:41] <RRR> Looking to install mythbuntu... does anyone know if it is preconfiged to work with PVR350 framebuffer output?
[11:41] <laga> RRR: no.
[11:41] <RRR> thnx
[11:42] <Daviey> RRR: but if you find a distro that does, let us know
[11:42] <RRR> good point
[11:42] <laga> feel free to help us to add suport ;)
[11:42] <benanz1> if you compile the latest mythstream-0.17.2 against mythtv-020.2 in Mythbuntu in creates the proper libmythstream.so but when you start mythfrontend in a terminal and try to run the mythstream plugin it errors because it's looking for liblibmythstream.so.  I tried symlinking but it doesn't work
[11:42] <RRR> lol... my time is short.. trying to cut corners as it is :-)
[11:43] <benanz1> I grepped the mythstream source and there's not a single mention of "liblibmythstream.so" -- so I can't figure it out
[11:45] <laga> benanz1: can you run "mythfrontend stream"
[11:45] <laga> ?
[11:46] <benanz1> Yes.  That brings up the mythstream interface but I get "/usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/liblibstream.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" in the terminal.
[11:46] <laga> weird stuff
[11:46] <Daviey> benanz1: and there is a symlink there?
[11:46] <laga> mythstream used to work for me.. on feisty.
[11:47] <benanz1> this is from the mythstream version that hit the gutsy repos yesterday
[11:47] <Daviey> ln -s /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/libstream.so /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/liblibstream.so
[11:47] <benanz1> No symlink on this one
[11:47] <Daviey> try that
[11:49] <benanz1> same problem.  When selecting "Play Online Streams" from the mythfrontend menu it wont open and I get "/usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/liblibmythtream.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" in the terminal
[11:49] <benanz1> that was with the symplink
[11:49] <Daviey> does /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/libmythtream.so exist?
[11:50] <benanz1> yes
[11:50] <Daviey> permissions / ownership?
[11:51] <benanz1> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 874936 2007-08-30 14:47 libmythstream.so
[11:51] <Daviey> arg
[11:54] <DaveMorris> RRR: don't work harder just smarter ;)
[11:54] <benanz1> Interesting -- When I run "mythfrontend stream" the mythstream interface opens and it works great but I get "/usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/liblibstream.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" in the terminal  --  but when I select it from the mythfrontend menu it doesn't work and I get "/usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/liblibmythstream.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[11:55] <benanz1> the difference being the first time it looks for liblibstream.so and find libmythstream.so -- the second time it looks for liblibmythstream.so but doesn't find libmythstream.so
[11:55] <DaveMorris> the .so file isn't a symlink thats not pointing to anything
[11:56] <DaveMorris> is it?
[11:56] <benanz1> no
[11:57] <benanz1> I removed symlinks to test it.  "mythfrontend stream" works, select mythstream from the mythfrontend menu doesn't work
[12:00] <benanz1> making a symlink of liblibstream.so -> libmythstream.so works to get rid of the error when doing "mythfrontend stream"  -- but not when selecting it from the menu
[12:01] <Daviey> :s
[12:01] <Daviey> benanz1: I will have a play over the weekend
[12:03] <benanz1> Ok, I figured out the symlink prob
[12:04] <benanz1> it's not looking for "liblibmythstream.so" it's looking for "liblibmythtream.so"  - the typo in the word "stream"
[12:04] <benanz1> symlinking liblibmythtreat.so to libmythstream.so fixes it
[12:05] <benanz1> liblibmythtream.so
[12:05] <laga> too much stupidity on IRC tonight. no, i'm not talking about this channel
[12:06] <benanz1> I got hung up on the "liblib" part and missed the "mythtream" part
[12:06] <Daviey> Can somebody else confirm this?
[12:06] <Daviey> I will add it to the release notes..
[12:07] <benanz1> I was talking to tgm4883 last night about it and he said everyone was having the problem, but I havn't been able to find any other reports
[12:09] <Daviey> benanz1: is there a launchpad bug on it?
[12:10] <laga> no bug, no fix
[12:10] <laga> ;)
[12:10] <benanz1> I'll file one now with this info
[12:10] <Daviey> benanz1: thanks :)
[12:12] <Daviey> laga: did you raise a bug regarding the language?
[12:12] <laga> i can curse whereever and whenever i want
[12:12] <laga> ffs
[12:13] <Daviey> heh - i mean the ubiquity one
[12:13] <Daviey> :)
[12:13] <laga> the crash? superm1 is already working on it AFAIK
[12:13] <Daviey> what did superm1 mean by "Refresh ordering of installer page"
[12:13] <laga> at least it's in the release notes :)
[12:14] <Daviey> laga: yeah, but i want to put a link to Bug # in the release notes for alpha4
[12:14] <laga> Daviey: someone complained that mythtv and ubuntu stuff was mixed, maybe he fixed that
[12:15] <Daviey> yah
[12:15] <laga> Daviey: no bug yet. figured it wasn't necessary.
[12:15] <Daviey> laga: would you mind; just makes the release notes more complete
[12:15] <Daviey> if not, somebody else will
[12:15] <Daviey> (no doubt)
[12:15] <laga> k
[12:15] <laga> but it's just because you asked nicely
[12:16] <Daviey> do it now you ******
[12:16] <tgm4883> ******?
[12:16] <tgm4883> donkey?
[12:16] <laga> yes sweetheart
[12:16] <tgm4883> ggnome?
[12:16] <Daviey> tgm4883: naa, i've seen the pics - he's no donkey
[12:17] <tgm4883> foxxxx?
[12:18] <laga> Daviey: #136482 ******
[12:18] <Daviey> bug #136482
[12:18] <Daviey> bloody ubotu
[12:20] <Daviey> benanz1: how's the bug report going?
[12:20] <laga> x11vnc is odd. won't build with ssl support here.
[12:20] <laga> hm
[12:21] <tgm4883> bug
[12:21] <tgm4883> there doesn't appear to be a way to not install mythstream by default
[12:22] <Daviey> bug #136482
[12:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 136482 in mythbuntu "Ubiquity crashes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136482
[12:24] <benanz1> bug reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythstream/+bug/136483
[12:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 136483 in mythstream "mythstream-0.17.2 fails to load in mythtv-0.20.2" [Undecided,New] 
[12:24] <Daviey> benanz1: ta
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #136482 in mythbuntu "Ubiquity crashes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136482
[12:29] <benanz1> I don't understand how this mythstream bug came up.  I've grepped through the source and I can't find any mention of "liblib" or "mythtream"
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #136483 in mythbuntu "mythstream-0.17.2 fails to load in mythtv-0.20.2" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136483
[12:33] <tgm4883> benanz1, I agree, not sure where it is.  I have also searched the database thinking that perhaps it was there.  No luck
[12:35] <Daviey> could it be something like use lib$(streamlib} where $(streamlib} = libmythtream.so etc?
[12:35] <tgm4883> Daviey, I dont think so, wouldn't that show in grep?
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #136487 in mythbuntu "Can't select to not install Mythstream at install time" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136487
[12:55] <laga> tgm4883: woah, you found the hidden plugin