[01:06] <raky> is this error message the subnet error that sorren has been talking about?  if it is, i've been going in completely the wrong direction!
[01:06] <raky> The error was:
[01:06] <raky> Address range 192.168.0.10 to 192.168.0.49, netmask 255.255.255.225 spans multiple subnets!
[01:07] <raky> so the subnet is the addresses i dhcp-server give out, not what the server is operating within or creating another subnet set?
[01:11] <nijaba> raky, did you check your subnet with an ip range calculator ?
[01:13] <nijaba> in this range you only have 30 adresses
[01:13] <nijaba> and in you case you can go from 0 to 29
[01:13] <nijaba> not over
[01:14] <nijaba> unless you have made a mistake in the in the range and it should end with 255 instead of 225
[01:15] <nijaba> actually 29 (from 1)
[01:17] <osmosis> what was the last version of ubuntu that had php4 ?  feisty doesnt have it.
[01:18] <nijaba> 6.10 has it I beleive
[01:18] <nijaba> let me check
[01:19] <nijaba> confirmed
[01:21] <nijaba> ttgtb...  good night
[02:33] <rakyr> what is the diff between a netmask and subnet mask?
[02:33] <mathiaz> rakyr: it's the same thing.
[02:35] <Nafallo> morning
[02:35] <Nafallo> mathiaz: around? :-)
[02:37] <Nafallo> I'm sitting with a Dell PowerEdge 2850 and tries to update the BIOS. Dell only support RH and SuSE, and RH BIN has something in the script called typeset. do we have a wrapper for that application somewhere in Ubuntu?
[02:40] <mathiaz> Nafallo: is the script using zsh ?
[02:40] <mathiaz> Nafallo: typeset seems to be part of zsh
[02:42] <Nafallo> mathiaz: ah. thanks. I'll try that :-)
[02:43] <Nafallo> mathiaz: cheers! :-)
[02:45] <mathiaz> Nafallo: np
[02:55] <Nafallo> *sighs*
[02:55] <Nafallo> vps1# PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin zsh PE2850_BIOS_LX_A06.BIN
[02:55] <Nafallo> PE2850_BIOS_LX_A06.BIN Error: Cannot find utilities on the system to execute
[02:55] <Nafallo> package.
[02:55] <Nafallo> Make sure the following utilities are in the path: tar gzip tail rm mkdir
[02:55] <Nafallo> chmod ls basename wc
[02:56] <rakyr> fopen failed to getting a static address.  UDP socket: address in use.  do i need to open a port?  http://pastebin.com/d79ad7005
[02:59] <rakyr> this is the interface file for eth0 for a pxe-install  http://pastebin.com/m234a809c
[03:00] <rakyr> this is my dhcpd.conf file http://pastebin.com/d42d7c3b3
[03:29] <osmosis> anyone know why xen is using a generic kernel?
[06:40] <computerman> Hello I have a question about Apache server on Ubuntu
[06:41] <computerman> I am trying to connect to transfer files from a Windows Vista box to a Ubuntu box.
[10:02] <kraut> moin
[04:03] <jdstrand> cool stuff...
[04:03] <jdstrand> just upgraded to feisty from etch
[04:03] <jdstrand> no, that was not a typo!
[04:04] <soren> Sounds scary :)
[04:04] <jdstrand> I wouldn't say it was 'smooth', but the fact I did it at all is pretty cool!
[04:04] <gamble6x> and it worked?
[04:04] <soren> jdstrand: Should you encounter any bugs, *please*, *please*, *please* remember to mention it in the bug report :)
[04:04] <jdstrand> soren: of course
[04:05] <jdstrand> soren: I wouldn't be reporting bugs for this-- this is a temporary situation
[04:06] <jdstrand> gamble6x: it didn't 'work' in the traditional 'apt-get dist-upgrade' with no problems way
[04:06] <jdstrand> gamble6x: manually installed dpkg and sysv* from feisty
[04:06] <jdstrand> apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> ugly
[04:06] <jdstrand> deborphan several times
[04:07] <jdstrand> downgraded through apt-pinning
[04:07] <jdstrand> then ran a little script to see what was left to do manually
[04:07] <jdstrand> all feisty pacakges now, and it rebooted and services are running.  :)
[04:07] <jdstrand> don't try this at home kids
[04:07] <jdstrand> ;)
[04:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> no kidding :o
[04:09] <jdstrand> really I did it all all because I didn't want to go behind my desk and move the cables around to connect a keyboard and monitor.  Then I was really just curious if I could pull it off.
[04:09] <jdstrand> I knew I could-- I have come across some pretty hosed systems and were able to fix them, so this was really not hard
[04:10] <jdstrand> anyhoo... thought others might find it mildy entertaining
[04:12] <gamble6x> wow, impressive.
[04:12] <gamble6x> time consuming, and scary.  But impressive.
[04:13] <jdstrand> it actually wasn't too scary-- this is not a production machine and it is sitting right next to me, so I could just go for it
[04:16] <jdstrand> I should probably mention this is a server, not a desktop
[04:17] <jdstrand> s/inpired/inspired/
[04:20] <Lin> hi there all
[04:20] <Lin> I will repost a message from ubuntu+1 here
[04:20] <Lin>  Isn't a REAL BUG. There is any easy configurator to manage samba servar configs? As: Create SMB user, set up domain.
[04:21] <Lin> cause shares-admin (smb) can add a share, ok. But users smb users are not created. Users think that is not working at all.  and there is no easy way to change domain name or join a existing domain.
[04:21] <_ruben> swat
[04:21] <Lin> if there is no such tool, I iwll try to build one this weekend. trying with python-gtk
[04:21] <_ruben> samba web admin tool
[04:21] <Lin> _ruben: user tool.
[04:21] <Lin> they are gnome integrated?
[04:22] <Lin> I want something to user, not admin, just simple things as that you can fine in a windows host.
[04:22] <Lin> s/fine/find/
[04:22] <Lin> as admin I never used swat.
[04:22] <Lin> just vi.
[04:23] <_ruben> i dont think there's a seperation between user and admin when it comes to configure samba ..
[04:23] <_ruben> then again, i dont use samba that much
[04:23] <Lin> _ruben: in gnome we have shares-admin. Its possible to share something in SMB or NFS
[04:24] <Lin> good. BUT! It dont create smb users or set a domain for authentication
[04:24] <Lin> users share the directories but nobody can access.
[04:24] <_ruben> heh, that's kinda sucky
[04:24] <Lin> _ruben: A LOT
[04:25] <Lin> that is the reason to ask for a gnome/user friendly too.
[04:25] <_ruben> but the only config tool i know of is swat, so im afraid i cant help you on this
[04:25] <Lin> _ruben: I know swat too. I dont like but I know.
[04:26] <soren> Lin: There is something.
[04:26] <soren> Lin: system-config-samba.
[04:26] <Lin> soren: good. where?
[04:26] <soren> Lin: Not packaged for Ubuntu, I'm afraid.
[04:26] <soren> Lin: Well, that's not entirely true.
[04:27] <soren> Lin: I packaged it, but the upstream tarball was not properly redistributable, so it didn't get accepted.
[04:27] <Lin> seems like a RH tool
[04:27] <Lin> soren: why itsn't properly redistributable? license?
[04:27] <jdstrand> soren: licensing problems?
[04:28] <soren> It's sort of ridiculous, actually.
[04:28] <Lin> is a RH tool. ;-)
[04:28] <soren> It's all GPL, but they forgot to include the actual GPL license in the tarball.
[04:28] <Lin> a tool like this isn't a big deal for developers. But can change lives for users
[04:29] <Lin> I will not play WoW this weekend.
[04:29] <Lin> I will try to build a free redistributable one.
[04:29] <jdstrand> soren: you could fork it, and add the license!  :)
[04:29] <Lin> AFK
[04:29] <soren> Lin: If I were you, I wouldn't bother.
[04:29] <soren> jdstrand: The lack of license makes that impossible. It's the license that grants me that right and since it's not there..
[04:30] <soren> Lin: It's a question of bugging upstream until they add the license to the tarball and that's it.
[04:31] <soren> Hang on, I'll find my package.
[04:33] <jdstrand> soren: I wonder what license would it fall under then?  It says its GPL, but doesn't have the license, but the code is out there...
[04:33] <ScottK> soren: For cases like that the archive will allow you to repack the tarball to add the license text as long as it's clear what the upstream intended.
[04:34] <soren> ScottK: I know.
[04:34] <ScottK> OK.
[04:34] <soren> ScottK: I just never got around to that, I'm afraid.
[04:34] <ScottK> Understand.
[04:35] <Lin> soren: ok.
[04:35] <soren> Hmm... There's a new upstream tarball.
[04:36] <Lin> soren: maybe with the license.txt
[04:37] <Lin> I will be back soon.. AFK
[04:37] <soren> perhaps
[04:39] <soren> Nope
[04:42] <mathiaz> jdstrand: I'm sure. As the configuration app runs in a X environment.
[04:43] <mathiaz> jdstrand: I'm *not* sure.
[04:43] <jdstrand> mathiaz: I thought rh were pretty good about those being both cli and gui
[04:44] <jdstrand> mathiaz: eg system-config-securitylevel is gui and system-config-securitylevel-tui is cli
[04:45] <mathiaz> jdstrand: hum.. yes - that's right.
[04:45] <mathiaz> jdstrand: they usually have a curse version of their system-config-* apps.
[04:45] <jdstrand> mathiaz: exactly
[04:50] <soren> No, system-config-samba needs X.
[04:50] <jdstrand> bummer
[05:25] <kbrooks> how do you 6update ubuntu server
[05:27] <ScottK> There are a number of ways to do it.  sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade would be one.
[06:08] <raky> how do i find my network card driver?
[06:11] <raky> what do i grep to get my hardware specs?
[06:14] <mralphabet> dmesg
[06:14] <mralphabet> ./proc/pci
[07:35] <osmosis> apache isnt processing my .php files, its pushing them to my browser for download. What to do ?
[07:37] <sommer_> osmosis: do you have libapache2-mod-php5 installed?
[07:37] <osmosis> sommer: affirmative.   libapache2-mod-php5                        5.2.1-0ubuntu1.4
[07:38] <osmosis> here is my vhost config  http://dpaste.com/18275/
[07:39] <sommer_> did you enable php?
[07:39] <sommer_> with a2enmod
[07:40] <sommer_> or create a symlink in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled?
[07:40] <mralphabet> did you restart apache?
[07:40] <sommer_> that too..heh
[08:07] <osmosis> strangest thing...now my sites are all showing...  SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-8ubuntu1   when I try and acess them via http. I dont know what gives.
[08:09] <osmosis>  "Apache/2.2.3 (Ubuntu) DAV/2 SVN/1.4.3 mod_python/3.2.10 Python/2.5.1 PHP/5.2.1 (internal dummy connection)"
[08:09] <osmosis> sommer
[08:09] <osmosis> sommer_
[08:10] <osmosis> what is   internal dummy connection
[08:10] <sommer_> not sure
[08:10] <sommer_> I've never seen that before, did you get the default exmaple page when you installed apache?
[08:11] <sommer_> what do you get if you go to http://localhost?
[08:12] <osmosis> sommer_: yah ive been running a working apache server for months. not sure what change caused this.
[08:13] <osmosis> sommer_:  if I go to localhost, i get a valid page...as it should be.
[08:13] <osmosis> sommer_: maybe im port fowarding to the wrong place? to port 22 maybe ?
[08:13] <sommer_> Mmmmm...so is it just php pages that are messed up?
[08:14] <sommer_> you might try changing <VirtualHost *> to <VirtualHost *:80>
[08:14] <osmosis> yup
[08:14] <osmosis> thats was is...my router was sending 80 -> 22
[08:15] <sommer_> ah
[08:15] <osmosis> thanks
[08:17] <sommer_> np
[08:21] <pteague_work> maybe it's a new php module?
[08:39] <Lin> im back
[08:47] <leonel>  was webmin removed from ubuntu ?
[08:48] <ScottK> Yes
[08:48] <ScottK> long long ago it was terminated with extreme predjudice.
[08:48] <ScottK> !webmin | leonel
[08:48] <ubotu> leonel: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system
[08:48] <leonel> ScottK:  never liked  but a friend  asked me for webmin for ubuntu
[08:49] <leonel> thanks
[09:10] <pteague_work> webmin is nifty, but it seems to mess up config files that you've manually altered
[09:11] <ScottK> nifty isn't the word I would use, but whatever.
[09:13] <pteague_work> nifty for people that enjoy a gui... it frustrated the hell out of me when i tried to use it
[09:26] <jbrouhard> webmin is a NIGHTMARE
[09:26] <jbrouhard> ebox looks like a much better alternative
[09:27] <ScottK> ebox is the one that soren is working on getting into Ubuntu.
[09:27] <jbrouhard> yup
[11:51] <kshah> what combination of email daemons are being used generally?
[12:07] <kshah> should i use postfix or exim4?
[12:14] <nealmcb> kshah: the default is postfix, so that is a good bet unless you need features of exim4
[12:14] <kshah> k
[12:15] <nealmcb> kshah: what sort of deployment are you looking at?  need pop3, imap etc?
[12:16] <kshah> imap
[12:16] <kshah> I guess it doesn't really really matter, small company, not like I'm setting up anything for hundreds of people to use
[12:18] <kshah> the postfix config is a beast
[12:21] <nealmcb> dovecot-imapd seems popular