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viddfor some reason my display settings only shows "default"....this is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35727/01:37
viddany sugestions?01:37
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maxamillionvidd: default should be 1024x768 ... xfce's display configuration considers the highest possible in xorg.conf to be "default"01:51
viddyeah...but there is nothing else there01:51
viddthe lower settings are no listed01:51
maxamillionvidd: oh ... that's not good01:52
maxamillionvidd: you running a stable release or gutsy?01:52
viddfeisty01:52
maxamillionhmm....01:52
viddya think dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg would fix it?01:55
maxamillionvidd: i have actually seen that issue before but i thought it was resolved in the 4.4.0 release of xfce01:55
maxamillionvidd: its possible ... wouldn't hurt01:56
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Jester45well it could02:00
viddwell...that didnt do it02:01
Jester45does the drive of the vid card suport the card fully and at other reses02:01
viddit worked last time i installed02:02
Jester45driver*02:02
Jester45same version?02:02
viddyeah02:02
viddi only formatted and reinstalled cuzz gutsy fonts are too small to read02:03
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PumpernickelThat's easily fixed - Gutsy interprets the DPI differently.02:07
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viddso is gutsy going to stop interpreting DPI differently so that it works correctly?02:16
PumpernickelProbably not since, from what I've heard, the fix was the different interpretation.02:20
PumpernickelIf it's not working out, you can set it in ~/.Xdefaults on a per-user basis, or system-wide in xorg.conf.02:21
Pumpernickelhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20976 is a decent reference.02:22
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cheeseboyPumpernickel ur my hero02:26
malaramehas anyone ever had the problem where resizing windows causes xorg to use up nearly 100% of the cpu? it's driving me crazy02:33
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Pumpernickelmalarame: What video card, what driver, and what version of Xubuntu?02:33
malaramei have an nvidia ti4200, i'm using the restricted driver in the restricted driver manager, and i'm using feisty fawn02:33
viddso Pumpernickel you have a cure for my current issue?02:33
malaramei just installed xubuntu earlier today02:33
Pumpernickelmalarame: And is that any window, or just for specific applications?02:33
malarameany window02:33
malarameand changing tabs in firefox too02:33
malarameit slows the system down to a crawl for a few seconds02:33
PumpernickelIt sounds like a compositing problem - have you tried disabling that?02:35
malaramewhat is that, and how do i disable it?02:35
Pumpernickelhttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Disable_Composite_Extension02:37
Pumpernickel(Ignore the parts dealing with fglrx, since they're not relevant here.)02:37
malaramedoes it matter that that's for edgy?02:37
malarameand will that work instantly, or will i have to reboot?02:39
PumpernickelNah, the configuration is the same.02:39
PumpernickelYou'll have to restart X in order to use the new configuration.02:39
Jester45malarame, just so you know there are very few things you have to reboot to change02:40
malaramecool02:40
malaramei'm brand new to linux02:40
malarameso you'll have to bear with me02:40
Jester45its fine02:40
malarameso i only use the first three lines? not the part with "serverflags"?02:41
Jester45just telling you so you can bewindoise yourself02:41
malaramehaha02:41
Jester451. rebooting is not needed to change a setting 2. no need for virus scanners 3. you dont have to defrag 4. updates and reinstalls are free so dont worrie to much about messing up the system02:42
PumpernickelBoth the 'Extensions' and 'ServerFlags' sections.02:42
malarameand what's the command to restart x?02:43
Jester45o and 5. google is no longer the main source for your programs, you can use it to find names of the programs but use apt first02:43
Jester45sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart02:43
Jester45it will clsoe all windows!02:43
malaramei'm still trying to get used to not being able to double-click on a file and have it install02:43
malaramewell, i'll see you guys in a few then02:44
Pumpernickelk02:44
Jester45you might find that linux's packages are much better than windows02:44
Jester45o02:44
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Jester45you might find that linux's packages are much better than windows02:48
malaramenope, didn't work02:48
malaramehowever, xorg now seems to use slightly less of the cpu when i resize windows... like around 60-80%02:50
malarameand why is it impossible to find the setting that turns off using the mousewheel on the desktop to change workspaces?03:02
viddmalarame, right click on the pager and remove the chck mark03:05
malaramei tried that03:05
malarameit still switches workspaces when i scroll the wheel on the desktop03:05
malaramethe only thing that option seems to affect is the pager itself03:06
viddhrm...interesting....never noticed that03:06
malaramei know there's an option03:06
malaramei used xubuntu briefly a few months ago and i remember it took forever to find the option03:07
ricisettings    window manager tweaks   something03:09
ricisth == workspaces03:09
malaramewell that was easy03:09
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malaramedammit, i've been searching on and off for like an hour03:09
malaramehow did i miss that? i feel dumb now03:10
viddhappens to me all the time03:11
malaramewell, thanks for your help guys03:13
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limbert65I want to make a panel launcher for wifi-radar in xubuntu, but can't seem to find what to execute. Help?03:17
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Rodents210Does anybody know the recommended system requirements for Xubuntu? I'm looking for a cheap used laptop to use for web browsing and word processing to run Xubuntu on, but I want to at least meet the recommended specs04:09
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corruptdoes xubuntu play a startup sound like microsoft windows x computers or ubuntu linux (gnome)?04:28
cheeseboywhats a command  to show my memory usage?04:29
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cheeseboynot sure06:57
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shiznixlittle help ?07:06
shiznixwondering if it's possible to install realplayer from repository on xubuntu feisty, getting all kinds of missing libs for gxine (spir.so + drvc.so) on a default install07:07
shiznix*sipr.so07:08
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shiznixcan't find realplayer in the list of packages in synaptic ...07:11
Ahadielshiznix, try apt-cache search real | grep player07:11
xjkxi think realplayer isnt a freesoftware07:13
Ahadielshiznix, I think the package is "realplay"07:15
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shiznixAhadiel: doesn't exist :(07:26
Ahadielshiznix, must be in my extra repos07:26
xjkxHow do i join to this team http://i18n.xfce.org/wiki/language_maintainers07:45
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m0u5edo any of you know any good utils for recording besides gnome-media?08:01
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AhadielHow would I get cdroms, and other things to automount when media is inserted/plugged in?08:52
xjkxm0u5e: i do. Gnomebaker rocks08:54
xjkxAhadiel: it should be done by default08:54
Ahadielit doesn't for me08:55
Ahadieland apps like Brasero, don't recognize my cd-drive08:55
xjkxtry sudo brasero08:56
Ahadielnope08:57
Ahadielwhen I go to make an iso out of a disc, it doesn't show any sources drives08:57
xjkxeven sudoing?08:57
Ahadielaye08:57
xjkxwill install it to check08:57
xjkxmaybe there is some config08:58
Ahadielthanks :)08:58
xjkxits strange that it doesnt detect the cdrom automatic anyway, all buntus do that by default08:58
xjkxi meant mount08:58
Ahadielyeah =/08:59
Ahadielwhen I was on ubuntu it worked fine08:59
xjkxi ran brasero fine and it detected my stuff :> even not sudoing, there is something wrong there, -trying to guess what-09:00
Ahadielif it matters, I'm Running Linux Mint 3.0 with XFCE09:00
Ahadielwhich is Based on Ubuntu09:00
Ahadiel(Feisty)09:00
xjkxnever used it, sounds unofficial09:01
Ahadielit's just extra apps and stuff09:01
Ahadieleverything runs the way it should like on Ubuntu09:01
xjkxare you with the light or full edition? :p09:03
AhadielFull09:04
Ahadiel:)09:04
xjkxAhadiel: you can manually mount it, but you cant see it in brasero right?09:10
xjkxor you cant manually mount it?09:10
Ahadielyeah I can manually mount it09:10
Ahadielbut I can't see it in brasero09:10
xjkxdid you try it on some other software? such as gnomebaker? maybe its some version bug09:13
Ahadielhrm09:13
AhadielI'll give it a shot09:13
xjkx:)09:13
Ahadieldd if=/dev/cdrom of=foo.iso that's how I'm making my iso for now :>09:13
xjkx:s09:14
Ahadielyup, it shows up in gnomebaker09:15
Ahadielmust be brasero =/09:15
Ahadielthanks for the help :)09:16
xjkxNo problem :D09:16
Ahadieland also09:16
Ahadielis there anyway to get a volume OSD?09:16
AhadielI miss the one from gnome09:16
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xjkxi dont know what ya mean with osd volume, but if you are looking for something to control the volume like the win's systray, there is one right clicking xfce bar and put in add, check the list09:20
Ahadielsec, I got an old screenshot of my ubuntu desktop09:21
Ahadielwith the OSD showing09:21
Ahadielhttp://ahadielstudios.com/~ahadiel/screenshots/Screenshot-3.png09:22
xjkxyea, i think it is what you want, try adding what i said09:22
xjkxits not as "beautiful" anyway09:23
xjkxyou see the xfce menu? it is over a bar, right click somewhere in this bar and put in add09:24
xjkxthere is a volume item09:24
Ahadielkk09:24
xjkxI meant "add new item"09:24
Ben_CsHello09:48
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zelvaGood morning10:06
zelvaIs here anybody from administrators of ubuntu.com or xubuntu.org, please?10:06
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Ahadielzelva, why?10:07
zelvaI'm an administrator of xubuntu.xf.cz10:07
zelvaAnd I'm going to move this web to xubuntu.cz10:07
zelvaBut I need drupal theme of xubuntu.org10:08
zelvanobody?10:09
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zelvanobody?10:30
zelvaThat's a pity10:31
zelvaDo you know anybody for administrators10:31
zelva?10:31
zelvaOr, Do you now any channel for administrators?10:32
zelvaSorry: know10:32
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noneofhey10:33
noneofsomeone here able to help ? it is possible to compile  my own kernel ?10:34
kalikianaRead the forums or the wiki :P10:34
noneofjust a question. i'v read on other distributions you can do this10:35
kalikianaYou can do it. There is a package, possibly called 'linux-foo'.10:35
noneofwhat wiki ? if i synaptic the latest kernel sources inclusive ubuntu fixes, extract, link the dir to linux, go to the dir and try make oldconfig and i get billions of error messages - it doesnt look like working10:36
noneofima right ?10:36
noneofLinux eric-ubuntu 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux10:36
noneofLinux eric-ubuntu 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux10:36
noneofLinux eric-ubuntu 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux10:36
noneofoh, sorry10:36
noneofi wouldnt paste 3 times10:37
noneofthe kernel from 7.04 isnt compiled with /proc/config, the config file are all i need - maybe you can send it kalikia ?10:38
noneofso, no help :( darn10:42
Mercheloif you wait around someone would be able to help10:43
Ben_Csis it on purpose that when i right click on disk on key icon (on desktop) and choose "unmount", that the icon is no removed after unmounting?10:43
Merchelois it a portable HD, or the main HD which xubuntu runs from?10:44
Ben_Csit's a usb disk on key. xubuntu is installed on HD10:44
Ben_Csmaybe it's so untill i fisically remove the drive, i can mount easylly it again by clicking it's icon?10:45
noneofMerchelo: ok, 'll try an apt-get update/dist-upgrade, maybe the compiling will work then10:46
Ben_Csi'm just regular from windows that if i unmount a drive, the only way to mount it again is by disconnecting and reconnecting it physically10:46
shiznixAhadiel: got it, had to download + extract the 'essentials' package from mplayer's site, then do an 'strace' on the gxine binary to find out where it was looking for the missing libraries, then hand craft some symbolic links accordingly10:47
shiznixoh, he gone :|10:47
Ben_Cs?10:48
Ben_Csok, another question:10:49
Ben_Csi want to get in depth on linux. in debian.com is a debian reference. will it help me?10:49
Ben_Csor i need something else?10:50
Merchelo?10:52
Merchelodepth as in learn more?10:52
Mercheloif so join the channel #linux and ask there, they have tons of references10:53
noneofrebooting10:54
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Ben_Csis learn more10:55
Ben_Csbut i want to learn focused on debian, because most of the better distros are based on debian10:56
Ben_Csso i thought maybe someone here has read the ref.10:56
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thomas_bayeshello!10:57
thomas_bayesI have a firefox/X problem10:58
Merchelobenny, join #debian so10:58
Ben_Csok10:58
Ben_CsBTW how do i change encoding in xchat?10:59
thomas_bayes"The program 'firefox-bin' received an X Window System error."10:59
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Ben_Cs#debian is so packed that no one even notices my question. it's the reason i hate #ubuntu11:03
DOHsomeone arrived who can answer an kernel compile question ?11:04
thomas_bayeshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35766/11:06
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martinezhi all11:18
martinezi have quastion, anybody help me?11:21
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xjkx107      14605  0.0  0.0   2100   272 ?        S    00:31   0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sda11:24
xjkxwhat does that mean?11:25
Ben_Csmartinez: just ask the question11:27
Ben_Csand if someone can, he'll answwer :)11:27
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kanpachihello, is there any application in xubuntu to rip cds into oggs? all i know is sound-juicer11:28
Ramlagrip is a nice one. i've only ripped into mp3:s but it should be able to handle any encoder afaik11:30
kanpachioh, thanx11:30
martinezi have xubuntu on old computer, xfce don't refresh desktop and i have same rests of windows on the desktop. How to repair it?11:30
kanpachiany others i should try out?11:30
Ben_Csmartinez: how do u mean doesn't refresh. what are u expecting there to be? i just didn't get u11:32
Ramlais xfdesktop running?11:34
Ben_Csmartinez: u mean the desktop is frozen, and doesn't srespond?11:34
martinezBen_Cs: respond, but i have some junks11:35
martinezBen_Cs: xfce is runnig, i can run programs, i have everything, but if i close the window, part of this window is on the desktop11:36
martinezBen_Cs: i cannot delete it, it is unrepondable, something like wallpaper11:36
Ben_Csi see11:37
martinezBen_Cs: olny if i change desktop wallpaper, i can delete this junks11:37
Ben_Cswell had the same on Winblows on old comp. i think it's too old to know it doesn't refresh or something. common on old pc's. maybe u need to use a lighter distro? i can recommend11:38
martinezBen_Cs: what can i do?11:38
Ben_Cswhat are the specs of your pc?11:38
martinez128MG, disc 8GB, Intel family 8, 133MHz, graph: Savage Inc 411:39
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Ben_Csok11:40
Ben_Csmartinez: xfce needs stronger specs to work right. it needs 300mhz11:40
martinezwhat you propose?11:41
Ben_Csmartinez: i recomend to u "fluxbuntu"11:41
Ben_Csfluxbox is the desktop manager and it's lighter then xfce11:41
Ben_Csu can ask more in #fluxbuntu11:41
martinezok, thx11:41
Ben_Csno problem11:41
martinezbut, i have another question...11:41
Ben_Csshoot11:42
martinezcan i run programs (especially simple games) on fluxbunut?11:42
martinezand what with KDE and gnome apps?11:42
Ben_Csif they are simple enough for your pc, then there's no problem11:42
martinezok11:42
martinezwhere is fluxuntu> i didn't found on ubuntu site11:43
Ben_Cskde and gnome apps are heavy. but fluxbuntu runs kde and gnome apps with no problem11:43
Ben_Csfluxbuntu isn't official yet11:43
martinezis it stable?11:43
Ben_Cshttp://fluxbuntu.org/11:43
Ben_Csyes it is11:43
Ben_Csi explain11:43
Ben_Csfluxbuntu is ubuntu dapper (6.06) that uses fluxbox as desktop manager. so if dapper is stable enough for you, then fluxbuntu is as well11:44
Ben_Csok?11:44
Ben_Cs:)11:44
martinezok11:45
Ben_Csi used fluxbuntu on an old pc and like it alot11:46
martinezids drapper stable and ok?11:47
martinezand what's about Small Danm Linux? can i run desktop there and games?11:48
Ben_Csyes. dapper has long term support. meaning it's the most stable realease of current ubuntu realeases11:49
Ben_Csi used damn small linux aswell. IF your pc doesn't work smooth enough with fluxbuntu, then try damn small linux. it's even lighter.11:50
Ben_Csyou can run desktop and games11:50
martinezcan i install DSL with desktop (i have small experience)11:51
Ben_Cswell, gotta go. good luck martinez. (dsl comes with desktop :)  )11:51
martinezok, thx11:52
Ben_CsNP11:52
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Nyksmoin!01:06
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kanpachihello, any idea on how to rip audio off a dvd?01:09
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tarntowanyone know how to fix screen alignment problem when you boot into another OS ?01:50
TheSheeptarntow: press the "auto align" button on your monitor?01:51
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tarntowTheSheep: wondering if there is another way to fix this once and for all or is that a normal criteria?01:53
albertdo yall know any tweaks that will make xubuntu even faster?01:54
albert???01:55
TheSheeptarntow: I don't know any01:59
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gerrogood after-morn-eve everybody02:08
gerrohmm I like my panel in xubuntu off to the right but task list displays names truncated. How can I disable name display all together?02:12
TheSheepgerro: use iconbox instead02:12
gerrowhat is that?02:13
gerroohhh I see02:13
gerrothanks02:13
gerrowow now my panel all lit up and colorful like a christmas tree, stylish Sheep02:14
TheSheepyou can disable the colors02:15
gerroeh?02:15
gerrowhat you mean by that02:15
TheSheepthe iconbox uses colors to highlight the state of the apps02:15
TheSheepyou can disable that02:16
gerrooh no I like it02:16
gerrobut hey one more question, how can I turn up mouse precision?02:16
TheSheepgerro: logitech?02:17
gerrodon't think so02:17
gerroIt works great so far, just I'd like a bit more accuracy02:17
TheSheepyou can add Option "resolution" "foo" to your mouse definition in xorg.conf02:17
gerrowhy is it called resolution and foo?02:18
TheSheep"foo" is the place where you should put your number02:19
TheSheepsee 'man 4 mouse' for details02:19
highvoltagethat sounds funny02:19
TheSheepno, wait02:19
TheSheepman 4 mouse is too detailed02:19
gerrowhat is the default setting? like 100?02:22
gerrowhat xorg version does 7.04 use again?02:24
alberthey do yall know how on some peoples desktops they have an object as the background that they can click on, say like a large button for terminal02:25
alberthow do you do that02:25
gerroalbert: when you right click it does something already just set left click to do something and make it respond with something besides a menu02:26
albertgerro:let me see if i can do that and if thats what i mean02:27
gerroalbert: are you refering to how on fluxbox it displays the start menu on left click?02:27
albertno02:27
gerrook02:27
gerroTheSheep: I need a huge manual on everything related to xorg, where should I look?02:27
albertgerro: i mean as the background like the desktop background there can be like a large icon, looking as if it was part of the background instead of an actual icon that you can click on02:28
gerroalbert: you mean you want to disable shading and other characteristics that make icons stand out from background? or make invisible icons?02:29
gerrojust up transparency to max lol02:29
albertgerro : no im sorry its hard to explain, maybe i can find an example for you hold up02:29
TheSheepalbert: desklets?02:30
TheSheepgerro: man xorg.conf02:30
TheSheep!info desklets | albert02:30
ubotualbert: Package desklets does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas02:31
albertyeah that could have been what i meant, ok shame that feisty doesnt support it02:31
albertthanks anyways02:31
TheSheep!info gdesklets | albert02:32
ubotualbert: gdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 466 kB, installed size 2452 kB02:33
gerroso what is that anyway?02:33
gerroalbert: got any pics of it?02:33
albertand would i be able to link one of those bad boys to terminal?02:33
albertgerro:no sorry i couldnt find the pic i was looking for02:33
TheSheepalbert: I guess it depends on what plugins there are for it02:34
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albertbasically what i wanted was a the mouse logo on my desktop and when i clicked on it it would be a shortcut to terminal, but the mouse logo wouldnt look like just a launcher icon because it would be bigger, as if it was part of the background02:35
gerroalbert: so you want an icon extra large with no name displayed and hold the mayo?02:36
gerroalbert: should already be there able to do it02:36
albertgerro: yeah possibly02:36
gerroalbert: but why not just get a background?02:38
albertgerro: what do you mean just get a background, is it possible to get backgrounds that have this?02:39
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warblerWhat is the lowest spec comp that you good folk have run xubuntu on?. As a test box, I want to use a pent2 with 128mb memory.03:37
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maxamillionwarbler: i've run it on a pentium 100mhz w/ 64mb of EDO ram ... it ran, its was painfully slow but it ran .... i think you will be fine with those specs but be sure to use the alternate installation image and make note that loading heavier applications like firefox will take a little patience03:45
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warblermaxamillion: want to set a headless box in shed to auto play mp3's on a button press04:04
TheSheepwarbler: look at mpd04:06
maxamillionwarbler: look at debian04:07
maxamillionwarbler: if that's all you want it for then you don't need the overhead of X11 on that machine04:08
TheSheepdebian+mpd :)04:08
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warblertried damn small linux but that was a little bit less than needed - easy way to add to startup & playlists etc...04:22
TheSheepmpc load <playlist name>04:24
TheSheepand mpd starts automatically at boot by default04:24
TheSheep(it alos has a web interface)04:24
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warblerThe Sheep: will read up on mpc/mpd :)04:35
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TheSheepwarbler: I think it's a perfect thng for a headless mp3 playing box. this or xmms204:40
funbitzguys! help!! both my upper and lower taskbars(?)  just disappeard and i don't know what i did! help?04:43
funbitzi'm using 7.04, installed it from ubuntu via synaptic.04:45
TheSheepfunbitz: press alt+f2 and type 'xfce4-panel'04:45
funbitzthanks a lot :)  forgive my ignorance, i just installed it04:47
TheSheepfunbitz: no, it's probably some problem with the software04:48
TheSheepfunbitz: there are always bugs04:48
funbitzrather, cause i know i was just goin to shut down or something, when those panels disappeared... so...04:49
funbitzout of the blue04:49
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TheSheepfunbitz: ah, you clicked on the panel and selected 'quit' :)04:50
TheSheepfunbitz: which 'quit' from the panel, not from the whole session04:50
funbitzaaah, yes... busted :)  that was it...04:51
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funbitzhow can i enter the grub setup cause i'm using dual boot05:18
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warblerfunbitz: sudo  (your editor) /boot/grub/menu.lst - that is small L s t05:27
illu45gksudo is probably better, although I might be wrong05:28
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MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!05:32
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jdanI have got one big problem for me. I installed Ubuntu server 7.x and configured LTSP for thin clients. But it appeared that every users can turn off server or reboot it by clicking dedicated buttons or selecting menu. Non logged users can turn server off  by pressing buttons on login GDM page. Does anyone know how to secure server? Maybe some HOW TO at Internet or other document.05:40
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cellofellowis anyone familiar with startx?05:41
maxamillioncellofellow: j005:41
maxamillioncellofellow: what's up?05:41
TheSheepbug #4783405:41
ubotuLaunchpad bug 47834 in xfce4-session "LTSP Users are allowed to shut down LTSP server" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4783405:41
cellofellowjust trying to make this box lighter by skipping GDM.05:41
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maxamillioncellofellow: you don't really get that much gain to be honest... maybe 10mb of ram05:42
cellofellowI know how to do it in XFCE (startxfce4). That command starts the X server too.05:42
cellofellowmaxamillion: this box has like 64MB though.05:42
maxamillioncellofellow: ah, ok05:42
TheSheepjdan: you need to create a kiosk file as described in there05:42
cellofellowstartfluxbox doesn't start the X server, so all I get is dumb errors. startx startfluxbox starts the X server, then quits.05:43
maxamillioncellofellow: well startx is just a front end to xinit and basically just does whatever is said to do in ~/.xinitrc or in the global config file if you don't have a .xinitrc05:43
TheSheepcellofellow: edit your .xsession or .xinit05:43
cellofellowum, ok05:43
cellofellowand put startfluxbox?05:43
TheSheepcellofellow: exec startfluxbox05:44
maxamillioncellofellow: yeah, you need to put 'exec startfluxbox' in .xinitrc05:44
maxamillionwell ... TheSheep pretty much beat me to that on05:44
jdanTheSheep: Kiosk, ok but I can't find any description how it do. I am familiar with Debian and standard server shares.05:44
maxamillions/on/one05:44
cellofellowthat worked!05:44
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cellofellowthanks, gtg though.05:44
TheSheepjdan: that bug #47834 comments have some pointers05:45
ubotuLaunchpad bug 47834 in xfce4-session "LTSP Users are allowed to shut down LTSP server" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4783405:45
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TheSheepjdan: the documentation of the xfce.org site also describes kiosk settings in detail05:45
maxamilliongotta run ... class time05:45
jdanTheSheep: ok, thanks. I am reading now ...05:46
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jdanTheSheep: unfortunately document at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/c2hs/+bug/47834 is out of date for me. Moreover, kiosk mode blocks access to modify meny by users. And it only works with Xfce. In Debian x-managers forbid by default reboot and shut down by common users.06:00
ubotuLaunchpad bug 47834 in xfce4-session "LTSP Users are allowed to shut down LTSP server" [Medium,Fix released] 06:00
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TheSheepjdan: well, just look at their configuration then and copy it over06:24
jdanTheSheep: I am getting xfc4 meta package on my notebook and I have intention to install and check it06:35
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azamohi, when i try to install on an old world mac install fails on "select and install software" during the alt. install.  is this usual?06:37
TheSheephard to tell, what is the message?06:38
TheSheepazamo: you might want to check bugs.ubuntu.com and forums06:39
azamosome along the lines of "an installation step failed, you can retry or skip it altogether"06:39
TheSheepazamo: not very informative :/06:39
azamomaybe i will check the bugs and let you know, however it is the LTS version.06:40
TheSheepazamo: you can also go to a console with alt+f2 and check some htings06:41
TheSheepazamo: for example, whether there are errors in dmesg or if there is enough free disk space06:41
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azamook i'll try06:43
azamomaybe i'll get a different release, like 7.0106:44
azamobye06:46
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thomas_bayeshello06:48
thomas_bayesI have a problem with firefox, it crashes on allmost every website06:49
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thomas_bayesfrom the terminal i get: thomas@dimebag:~$ firefox06:50
thomas_bayes/bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found06:50
thomas_bayesThe program 'firefox-bin' received an X Window System error.06:50
TheSheep!bugs | thomas_bayes06:51
ubotuthomas_bayes: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots06:51
thomas_bayesok, thanks06:53
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ch0wdai've somehow gotten 3 network managers to start in the system tray when i log in xfce, how can i get rid of them?07:14
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TheSheepch0wda: close them and save session when logging out07:20
TheSheepch0wda: alternatively, delete filesi n ~/.cache/sessions/07:20
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jdanTheSheep: I downloaded xfce4 and configured it in kiosk mode. It's ok. Noe users have not any access to reboot server. But remains GDM. GDM lets choose other window manager. And have own menu and buttons to shut server down. Any idea?07:21
TheSheepjdan: you can configure it07:21
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TheSheepjdan: system->login window07:22
TheSheepjdan: but isn't gdm started locally with ltsp?07:22
jdanNo, gdm is stared on server and have XDMCP active mode on07:24
jdanTheSheep: No, gdm is stared on server and have XDMCP active mode on07:25
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TheSheepjdan: you can disable the 'actions' menu in gdm07:26
jdanTheSheep: Where can I find it? I look at system-login window and don't see it. In xfce4 menu it's Applications->Settings->Login window07:29
jdan TheSheep: It's the same dialog like `gdmsetup`07:29
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starvinmarvinMy box has 3 hard drives with movies on them. I would like to create a network share that contains all of the movies so network users only need to go to one folder on the network for the movies. Is this possible?07:31
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TheSheepstarvinmarvin: yes, create a directory with 3 subdirectories and mount the drives in these 3 directories, then make a share from the parent directory07:33
starvinmarvinThanks TheSheep07:35
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Kr4t05Hi, I'm using the Feisty Alternate Installer CD on a Dell Latitude LS laptop. For some reason, the intaller freezes at 85% of the "Select and  install software" screen reading "Installed xubuntu-desktop." Has anyone else encountered a similar problem?07:37
Kr4t05Oh... Scratch that... It works this time.07:39
warblerk07:41
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ch0wdaTheSheep: thx07:50
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jdanTheSheep: You are right. There are "SystemMenu" and "ChooserButton" in gdm.conf. Now I have to block only chooser for other window managers.07:54
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xjkxmy printer has only the black color, the other ones are out. Cups cant print, i think it uses the colors even though i want it to just print the black color, i am using "Color Model:  Grayscale"08:37
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TheSheepxjkx: maybe they will know at #cups08:38
xjkxten ppl there :< but i hope08:38
starvinmarvinTheSheep, is there any way to allow multiple folders appear as one on a network share?08:40
The-Kernelis there a way to get all the irssi scripts to load right away?08:41
The-Kerneland does anyone have recommendations on which ones to use?08:41
TheSheepThe-Kernel: --> #irssi :)08:41
TheSheepstarvinmarvin: I don't think so08:42
starvinmarvinwell that's a bummer08:42
starvinmarvinSome sort of virtual raid for network shares? can't someone whip one up?08:42
starvinmarvinhaha08:42
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The-Kernelwell09:27
The-Kernelno one in #irssi is actually there09:27
The-Kernelits one big idling channel09:27
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ShAdOw_LnXHi, there's a program to make a dial up conection and show me how much time i've conected?09:41
warblertry this - http://www.filetransit.com/view.php?id=29909:46
warblersays it's good :)09:46
maxamillionShAdOw_LnX: yes, there are a few09:47
ShAdOw_LnXmaxamillion, do you know another than gnome-ppp? doesn't work for me, y only can conect opening network-admin and enable my modem conection, but i don't know how much time i've conected09:49
maxamillionShAdOw_LnX: i actually just use pppd09:53
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ShAdOw_LnXmaxamillion: ok09:53
maxamillionShAdOw_LnX: it requires a little configuration but it works and its lightweight :)09:56
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viddhow hard is it set up a second nick card and use it for internet sharing?09:59
ShAdOw_LnXmaxamillion: ok i need ligthweigth things becouse im in a PII 400 mhz 128 ram, i'm looking ligthweugth soft10:01
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hyper_chhiho, I'm in my new appartement now :)10:18
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student1looking for instructions on setting up nvidia drivers so i can use mplayer to watch dvd's.  already tried the restricted drivers manager route and system failed to come back up.  error messages available if it would help.10:56
Jester45!patebin10:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about patebin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:57
Jester45!pastebin10:57
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:57
Jester45it please10:57
vidd!nvidia10:58
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:58
student1i am running 7.04 and, if i am reading the HowTo correctly, i should use System->Administration->Restricted Driver Manager.  is that correct?11:02
viddidk...i dont have that equiptment11:03
student1the reason i ask, is that is what i did do, and messed things up so badly that the only way i could find to recover was to re-install11:03
viddfollow the instructions for 6.1011:04
ricidoes anyone know off-hand how to get ubuntu to recognize a usb hard-drive? or at least a place to start looking?11:05
neozen....it should already.,.. buuut11:09
student1vidd, just checking that you are talking to me and not someone else before i start following the instructions for 6.10 :)11:09
neozenI'd start looking around for it in /dev/sdb /dev/sdc etc11:09
viddstudent1, yes...that was for you11:09
ricineozen: the hdd is from a freebsd system so i expect other issues11:10
neozenahhh11:10
neozenwhat filesystem?11:10
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riciiirc, it's a pure freebsd disk with several ffs on it11:10
ricii'd just like to verify that ubuntu can see the damn thing11:11
ricithis didn't look good: kernel: [18544106.312000]   1:0:0:0: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery11:12
ricibut i've never used a usb hdd before, so i'm just going on instinct11:12
riciit's actually an ordinary sata drive in a usb external box11:12
hyper_chTheSheep: huhu11:28
TheSheephyper_ch: yeah11:30
hyper_chTheSheep: 300mb left ;)11:30
hyper_chTheSheep: and inet is working at my new place11:30
TheSheephyper_ch: glad to hear that11:31
hyper_ch:)11:31
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hyper_chTheSheep: tomorrw I get my new DVDs ;)11:42
neozenbye all11:53
maxamillionlaters11:53
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hellekinhi there11:55
Jester45hi11:57
hellekinHello Jester45... I fought with my parent's Shuttle that was broken. I resolved the hardware problem, but in the meantime, I reinstalled the system from scratch, using the Gutsy xubuntu11:58
hellekinreally cool distro11:58
TheSheepand it will be even released soon ;)11:58
hellekinI only have a few marginal problems with it though.11:58
hellekinthe thing i really like was the integration of deb packages with firefox and totem for the codecs. Awesome.11:59
hellekinbut of course, as soon as I started adding users, I stumbled across problems12:00
hellekinFollowing the PulseAudio recommendations solved most of the shared sound problems, although I lost control of the keyboard special keys in the process12:00
hellekineg. amixer from the keyboard volume/mute keys works fine when pulseaudio is not used, but fails otherwise12:01
hellekinand if some user has a problem with sound, it's a mess to recover without killing all apps using sound (restarting sound freezes the apps)12:02
hellekinvino gives me a headache too. connecting works, but the mouse really really wants to go to the upper left corner of the screen. Go figure. :)12:03
hellekinOverall, I much prefer xfce4 to metacity12:03
hellekinoh, and compiz in "cube mode" only takes part of the display for the desktop. I used to fix that problem on debian, but I can't remember how.12:04
hellekincomments and suggestions are welcome :)12:05
Pumpernickelhellekin: Does using pulseaudio directly to handle muting/unmuting etc. work?12:07
hellekinPumpernickel: good question... lemme test that12:07
Pumpernickelhttp://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/CLI is a command reference.12:08
hellekinyes12:09
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hellekinhmmm Pumpernickel, is "pulseaudio set-sink-mute" the right command ? It doesn't work. pavucontrol works12:13
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PumpernickelIf pavucontrol works, that's fine.12:18
illu45Hm... does anyone here use SoX?12:21
hellekinwow... When pulseaudio fails, recovering *is* a mess12:24
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hellekinouch... pulseaudio[10721] : alsa-util.c: device doesn't support 44100 Hz, changed to 22050 Hz.12:25
hellekin pulseaudio[10721] : alsa-util.c: device doesn't support 2 channels, changed to 1.12:25
HelloMeowCan somebody tell me the best way to take a desktop screenshot?12:25
HelloMeowI can't seem to get print-screen to work12:26
hellekinHelloMeow: you must have a screenshot app that you can add to you panel12:26
TheSheepHelloMeow: you can add a screenshoter plugin to your panel, you can use the 'file->aquire->screenshot' menu of gimp, or you can install scrot and bind it to your printscreen key12:26
Jester45hellekin, no... there are much better cli apps12:27
HelloMeowOK, thanks guys12:27
Jester45but for s simple one time screenhot the plugin is best12:27
HelloMeowAny good apps you know of?12:28
Jester45scrot12:28
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hellekinHelloMeow: I'm using xbinkeys and scrot. In my .xbindkeysrc I put:12:28
hellekin"scrot '%Y-%m-%d_%T_$wx$h.png' -e 'mv $f ~/img/screenshots/'"12:28
hellekinPrint12:28
cheeseboy$sudo iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -o eth0 -s 192.168.0.0/24 -m state --state NEW -j ACCEPT is eth1 the device with internet or the one sharing it ?12:28
TheSheepyou can also just go to settings->keyboard->shortcuts and add a binding for scrot there12:29
hellekincheeseboy: eth1 is the -i(nput) with 192.168.0.0/24 source address. So I guess the public interface is on eth012:29
hyper_chI use imagemagick and a shell script to make screenshots12:29
cheeseboyhelkin eth1 would be one i get internet from then i send it out eth0 ?12:30
cheeseboyhellekin *12:30
hellekincheeseboy: I said the opposite12:30
cheeseboyok12:31
cheeseboyi was confused12:31
hellekinheh it happens12:31
hellekinhyper_ch: isn't imagemagick overhead?12:31
hyper_chhellekin: works fine for me12:32
hyper_chHelloMeow: hellekin: http://phpfi.com/26001112:33
TheSheephellekin: ImageMagick has a lot of other sueful functions too12:33
TheSheephellekin: good to have it on your box anyways12:34
hellekinah yes, import :)12:34
hellekinI'd forgotten about that one12:34
hyper_chyes it has... especially when using php :)12:34
hellekinI mostly use convert and identify ;)12:35
cheeseboyhow do i make my iptables permanent ?12:35
hellekincheeseboy: put it in /etc/rc.local... But you'd better learn about shorewall12:35
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cheeseboyhellekin why?12:43
cheeseboycant i just remove it?12:43
hellekincheeseboy: remove what ?12:44
hellekincheeseboy: shorewall is an excellent bash script for wrapping IPtables. It's powerful and very simple to use (although it can become as complex as iptables allows ;o)12:45
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cheeseboy:/12:47
hellekin?12:47
hellekinHmmm... Starcraft over ssh doesn't seem to find the "CD"12:48
hellekinoops :)12:48
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