[01:15] hmmm, kde4 still sucks === SeveredCross [n=bojan@dhcp-129-64-131-19.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:27] Anyone else get no sound out of gstreamer? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu+1 === arkygeek [n=arkygeek@77-97-80-243.cable.ubr02.live.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:35] hihi [01:35] well, my laptop is complaining about gutsy... after trying a suspend, i can no longer even boot to X [01:36] I am currently trying a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [01:43] arkygeek: had a similar problem with a non-laptop... I tried to suspend it and it wouldn't work, even after powering it down by pressing power button 4 seconds [01:43] arkygeek: power supply switch off/on fixed it. === terlmann [n=terlmann@207.254.168.168] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Konversation] === fiveiron [n=fiveiron@74-137-162-129.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mrigns [n=mrigns@ACAD2CA5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bdgraue [n=bdgraue@host-091-096-169-106.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@p54977683.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _dennis_ [n=dennis@78-20-171-151.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ionstorm [n=ion@70-58-119-250.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === emet [n=emet@unaffiliated/emet] has joined #ubuntu+1 === albert23 [n=albert@86.81.99.204] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === DeepB [n=Joe@unaffiliated/deepb] has left #ubuntu+1 [":(){] === DeepB [n=Joe@unaffiliated/deepb] has joined #ubuntu+1 === kousotu [n=kousotu@adsl-68-79-9-194.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nosrednaekim [n=michael@03-155.200.popsite.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nosrednaekim [n=michael@03-155.200.popsite.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Jupiter] === vlowther [n=vlowther@cpe-66-68-71-80.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mrigns [n=mrigns@ACAD2CA5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rockets [n=rockets@pool-71-247-35-247.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compwiz18 [n=adam18@61.149.8.169] has joined #ubuntu+1 === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host57-130-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@cpe-72-130-9-38.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:44] Can anyone help with the post I just made http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3288781#post3288781 === nosebleed [n=sean@beigetower/nosebleed] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:50] Hi folks, I'm using Gutsy... I'm using the nVidia CK804 ethernet card with the forcedeth module.... and my connection is very slow.... sometimes less than 10K/s [02:50] is there a bug? Is that the right module for that card? [02:50] Usually my connection is around 450K/s === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@84.13.126.88] has joined #ubuntu+1 === lavigne [n=lavigne@dargo.trilug.org] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip70-177-204-60.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:51] looking for help with Gutsy and it hijacking a second drive as dm-0 anyone have any hints. [02:51] ? === der0b [n=s0d_0ff@c-66-31-142-244.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mrigns [n=mrigns@ACAD2CA5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === databuddy [n=starz@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 === winston [n=bryce@208-117-69-72.block5.gvtc.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host57-130-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rockets [n=rockets@pool-71-247-35-247.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rjc21 [n=ryan-set@ppp246-249.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=dana@24-205-237-211.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hydrogen [n=hydrogen@ignorance.campus.alfred.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:21] hi all. when i login to gutsy i get a gnome-settings-daemon error. any ideas why? === graft [n=graft@c-65-96-163-59.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:37] hey, how do i tell what X version i'm running? === chrisle [n=chris@e178127052.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:40] graft: Xorg -version seems to work [03:41] that tells me 1.3.0 [03:41] shouldn't it be like, 7.1.something? === kousotu [n=kousotu@adsl-68-79-9-194.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [03:44] can someonewalk me through ndiswrapping Atheros AG5007EG wifi card? [03:44] actually my problem is fglrx is complaining that the Xorg version is not > 7.1.0.0 [03:45] but apparently my version is actually 1.3.0?? [03:46] the fix for the dm error is to exclude the disks in the evms config in /etc/evms.conf and reboot [03:46] try dpkg -s xserver-xorg [03:47] graft are you build the fglrx driver yourself? [03:47] lavigne: hells, no [03:47] lavigne: using the one in the repository === mr-russ [n=mr-russ@C-61-68-184-41.bur.connect.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:50] If I have a bug in 7.10 that's reported upstream, but not in launchpad, should I report it in launchpad. Or what is best to do? === fsckr [n=rich@pool-71-100-42-63.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rjc21 [n=ryan-set@ppp246-249.static.internode.on.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === makuseru [n=max@163.106.40.24.aeneasdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === alex-weej_ [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === arooni [n=arooni__@c-67-183-138-62.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:57] ucan anyone help me fix my sound problem in gutsy? [03:57] depends on your problem === lavigne [n=lavigne@dargo.trilug.org] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compwiz18 [n=adam18@61.149.8.169] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:06] arooni: when did it happen> [04:06] after updating? === \x6e\x65\x72\x64 [n=gaucho@201-66-201-237.smace700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 === SmrtJustin [n=SmrtJust@cblmdm72-241-92-132.buckeyecom.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@i156-171.nv.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cyphase [n=cyphase@c-71-198-55-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === contrast83 [n=mike@adsl-074-236-242-009.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF0C38.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === kousotu [n=kousotu@adsl-68-79-9-194.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [04:19] can someone help me with wifiradar? === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu+1 === assasukasse [n=assasuka@n219079164170.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:22] kousotu, yes exactly! [04:23] i have a t61 with intel hda sound card..... and i installed alsa drivers from source, then modprobed intel_snd_hda .... then it worked!!! later, i ran a sudo apt-get update [04:23] then it stopped working [04:23] arooni: it's a bug, report it [04:24] kousotu, where do i do that [04:24] kousotu, and is there a way of fixing it? [04:24] arooni: none that [04:24] i've tried [04:24] ask in #ubuntu-kernel === sayers [n=steven@c-76-20-182-119.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:26] oh noes === dfgas [n=dfgas@adsl-68-254-163-63.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hydrogen [n=hydrogen@ignorance.campus.alfred.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:27] has knetworkmanager been replaced in gutsy by something else new? [04:28] oh [04:28] network-manager-kde [04:28] :) === hydrogen [n=hydrogen@ignorance.campus.alfred.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === LeanCalPer [n=leancalp@200.114.14.129] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jimmacdonald [n=jim@138-212-223-66.gci.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:53] Thank god they finally took the purple out of the default color scheme. === unique [n=unique@c-68-81-253-45.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:54] They should make launchpad.net the default homepage in Firefox/Konqueror for the test releases of *Ubuntu. === kousotu [n=kousotu@adsl-68-79-9-194.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [04:55] when the final version of 7.10 comes out will i need to do a complete reinstall or can i just upgrade [04:55] just upgrade [04:55] im running build 5 [04:55] ok [04:56] and how do i find out the version i am running just to double check [04:56] I upgrade compulsively when I'm running test releases, i.e., 2-3 times/day. That might be overkill though. Heh [04:56] unique: What do you mean? === mrigns [n=mrigns@ACAD2CA5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:56] i want to make sure im running 7.10 ....every thing looks the same [04:57] Anybody using the gutsy thunderbird 2? [04:58] when i go into fire fox it says Welcome to Ubuntu 7.04, Feisty Fawn! [04:58] unique: The pre-release versions they put out .iso's for are just milestone releases. There's no difference between installing tribe 1 and updating when tribe 5 comes out as opposed to just installing straight from the tribe 5 cd. === assasuka [n=assasuka@n219079164170.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:59] unique: Erm... $ cat sources.list === snax [n=brianhk@c-76-22-62-12.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:59] hello there [04:59] unique: I'm sure there's a better way than that, but I'm not aware of it. [04:59] is anyone running gnome-main-menu in gutsy? [04:59] aka slab === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:00] i get command not found [05:01] umm... wow. o_O [05:01] sorry im still really new at this [05:01] no problem... jumping in deep waters to learn how to swim? [05:02] You read the channel topic, right? :-) [05:03] that is located where? [05:03] It should be the first message when you came in this room. [05:03] 'cat /etc/issue [05:03] ' [05:04] to see your release version [05:04] ahh. Thanks, Toma-. I was used to just seeing it in kcontrol, but it appears that functionality's either been removed or just isn't working atm. [05:05] np === arooni [n=arooni__@c-67-183-138-62.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:05] ok i try both lines and they both bring back no such file or director [05:05] y [05:05] does anyone have the t61 with built in camera? if so, have you gotten the built in monitor working? === currahee41 [n=nunya@h29.184.28.71.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:05] i mean bulit in camera [05:06] well you might not be using ubuntu then. or linux for that matter [05:06] because 'cat' is part of the basic commands [05:06] either that or things are seriously screwed. [05:07] unique: Any particular reason you wanted to use Gutsy over Feisty? [05:08] i want to learn something new [05:08] i type cat and then i am prompted to unlimited text entry [05:10] unique: copy and paste this (no quotes) "cat /etc/issue" and hit Enter === kousotu [n=kousotu@adsl-68-79-9-194.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [05:11] unique: you'll need to hit Ctrl+C first if you haven't already cleared out of the last time you ran cat without an argument (the file you want cat to display the contents of in this case) [05:11] yhea i get no such file or directory [05:11] did [05:12] same issue === nickrud [n=nickrud_@ppp-71-128-7-182.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:12] unique: you aren't running from a live cd are you? [05:12] live cd has issue aswell, iirc [05:13] you mean the command should work there regardless? [05:13] uh cd is still in drive but i almost positive that i booted from hd [05:14] let me reboot be back in a moment === fiveiron [n=fiveiron@74-137-162-129.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- hides while theres still time [05:14] lol [05:15] "yeah, i don't know how to drive, but i think i should start out with an 18-wheeler." === unique [n=unique@c-68-81-253-45.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === aem_ [n=aem@dslb-084-057-154-004.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:18] unique: What's the verdict? [05:18] was it "cat/etc/list" [05:19] cat /etc/issue (note the space between cat and /etc) [05:19] unique: how long have you been using linux? [05:20] 2 days [05:20] Ubuntu gutsy (development branch) \n \l [05:20] unique: yeah, you're using gutsy. honestly though, you really shouldn't be. :-\ [05:20] Unstable distros are not good for first-timers -- too much risk of breakage, and without experience, you may not know how to fix things. [05:20] ok [05:20] can anyone confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-main-menu/+bug/136515 [05:20] Launchpad bug 136515 in gnome-main-menu "Tooltips do not disappear" [Undecided,New] [05:21] DanaG: idk about that. I'm runinggutsy, and I'm a first-timer [05:21] the newer hardware isn't supported wil on fiesty [05:21] well* [05:21] unique: i respect your eagerness to learn, but there's plenty to learn in stable releases. i was using linux about 8 months before i tried a test release, and i learned tons in those 8 months. [05:22] snax: can you,in a nutshell describe the bug? [05:22] yhea but whats the worst i can do if i dont have any valuable documentation created... have to reformat and reinstall... [05:23] when you select a favorite application from the slab menu, a tooltip appears and doesn't go away by itself === currahee41 [n=nunya@h29.184.28.71.ip.alltel.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] [05:23] even if you click the launcher before the tooltip appears, it will *still* appear after the menu has already been closed [05:23] you have to click it to get rid of it === mrigns [n=mrigns@ACAD2CA5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:23] unique: right. and the time you spend reformatting and reinstalling is taking away from the time you could be spending to learn new stuff. [05:24] snax: unds like that windos glitch that pises me off [05:24] lol [05:24] sounds* [05:24] (refering to Windows XP) [05:24] ok... is there no easy way to downgrade? [05:24] it's really annoying because I like the slab menu [05:24] unique: right. just download the feisty cd and install from that. i don't think it's even possible to downgrade. [05:25] snax: never heard of/ used it [05:25] sudo aptitude install gnome-main-menu [05:25] unique: how big is your hard drive? [05:25] unique: are you rnning only ubuntu? [05:25] killall gnome-panel [05:25] add it to your panel [05:25] kousotu: yeah, he's only been using linux for 2 days. [05:26] or did you mean is he dual-booting w/ windows? [05:26] contrast83: that's not what I asked [05:26] the 2nd bit [05:26] my fault [05:26] i have a 320gb that is not hooked up it has vista on it... the drive that i have ubuntu on is a 80 gig [05:26] but again, doesn't HAVE tobe windows [05:26] you're better off running Gtsy imo [05:27] unique: you know you can have both drives hooked up and pick whether you want to boot into ubuntu or windows when you turn the computer on, right? [05:27] yhea but its ntfs and i wasent sure how the partion would handle [05:27] unique: what is our computer make and model? [05:28] I want to stay for a while with my 2.6.20-16-generic kernel yet but I'd like to test if the 2.6.22 kernel supports resume from suspend-to-disk better. I am not versed with kernel building. Is it safe to copy /cdrom0/pool/main/linux-source-2.6.22/linux-libc-dev_2.6.22-9.25_i386.deb to /usr/src in order to install a 2.6.22 kernel on trial? [05:28] unique: the partion will handle fine, I have complete control ove both my linux and Window partions, o either os === hydrogen [n=hydrogen@ignorance.campus.alfred.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:28] msi kn8 neo v2.0 mobo ... sempron 2800 processor [05:28] unique: linux can read ntfs fine. if you want to be able to write to the vista drive though, you'll need to install a couple things ($ sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g ntfs-config) iirc [05:29] unique: self-built? [05:29] yhea [05:29] ah. [05:29] a 2.8ghz? [05:29] hat's gotta be nice [05:29] lol [05:29] that* [05:30] im soon ready for the socket f but not enuf driver support [05:30] semprons aren't dual-core, right? [05:30] no, turons are === mrigns [n=mrigns@ACAD2CA5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:30] yhea its the only make of sempron that is 64x [05:31] what's the difference? [05:32] unique: if you insist on running gutsy, i'd recommend manually setting up the partitions next time you reinstall and setting seperate ones for /home and / [05:32] nothing becuse im running 32bit os [05:32] lol [05:32] unique: that way your settings and stuff will be left in tact when you reinstall again (just don't format the /home partition when you reinstall) [05:32] unique: do you want me to send you my ext3 driver for windows? [05:33] then if something bad happens youcan move the impornt stuff [05:33] important* [05:34] kousotu: he wouldn't even need to do that if he sets seperate partitions though, right? [05:34] contrast83: Ihave an ext3 driver, it' my failsafe [05:34] it's* [05:34] sure [05:35] kousotu: won't the permissions get borked when you move them to a windows partition, or does this driver keep them proper? [05:35] you should be able to unstall it on vista, but I'm not sure [05:35] kousotu: are you using it on xp? [05:35] ye [05:35] yes* [05:35] and as longas you leave theformatting of linuxalone, it will too === d4rkmonkey [n=Jared@CPE000bcd15b4ae-CM00195efba7ac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:36] hey, any known issues with gutsy having to do with touchpads randomly stopping working? [05:36] itjust attaches a drive letter to it [05:36] because my mouse just stopped working recently... [05:36] and then I restarted, it worked for 5 minutes then stopped again [05:36] so instrad of / it would be X:/ [05:36] so instrad of / it would be X:\ [05:36] call me paranoid, but if i were dual-booting, i wouldn't even want my linux partition visible to windows. i'd be worried a virus might somehow attack it. [05:36] I tried restarting X [05:37] and restarting my comp only worked momentarily. [05:37] contrast83: that's impssible [05:37] no windows virus can run on an ext3 partion === holzmodem [n=holzmode@dslb-084-060-195-155.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:38] kousotu: it wouldn't be running on ext3, it'd be running on ntfs (i.e., when you're in windows) [05:38] er... this would be the /home folder on windows: x:\/home [05:38] kousotu errm what if it ran from the NTFS partition, and you had windows configured tobe able to read/write EXT3? [05:38] d4kmonkey is it battery operated? [05:38] exactly [05:38] unique nope. [05:38] unique touchpad on my laptop... [05:38] d4rkmonkey: did you try reinstalling the synaptic module? [05:39] my windows CN read and write to ext3 [05:39] contrast83 I never installed any specific module for it. It worked up until recently. [05:39] but no virus can infet a linux partion, while running on linux, so the infection would be al too obvious [05:39] what about Ext4 any better? [05:39] d4rkmonkey: *maybe* try sudo apt-get install --reinstall xfree86-driver-synaptics [05:39] never heard of ext4 [05:40] kousotu: you're missing our point [05:40] oh.. sory, gon sidetracked unique [05:40] contrast83: explain it then [05:40] the virus is running *while* you're in windows. it looks at all the mounted partitions and rapes them. not possible? [05:40] The ext4 filesystem can support volumes with sizes up to 1 exabyte.... [05:41] exabyte = 1,000 terabytes? [05:41] or is that petabyte? [05:41] 1 exabyte.... who in the world [05:41] hi, have some problems with my radeon card. every time i will activate "AGPfastwrite" for better performance, the whole notebook freezes with white screen, only pushing power button works (ati radeon 9700 mob. + open driver) under feisty it worked fine === Parisi [i=Parisi@pool-71-164-67-4.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:42] holzmodem: i know this doesn't solve your problem, but just fyi, instead of using the power button, *slowly* type RSEIUB while holding holding Alt+SysRq [05:42] holzmodem: that will ensure your filesystem doesn't get corrupted [05:43] Raising Skinny Elephants Is Utterly Boring [05:43] how to you run checks on the file system? [05:43] ok thanks [05:44] contrast83: thx for the hint [05:44] contrast83: exa = Trillion (10^18). [05:44] np [05:45] bullgard4: thx [05:45] contrast83: peta = 10^15 [05:45] contrast83: it would be able to hit NTFS, but I doubt it couldhit the ext3 because the firus is not coded as windows, but dos [05:46] ok. i guess that makes sense. [05:47] or some subline of dos anyway.. [05:47] do and such can't writeto ext3, windows, with the driver can though [05:48] I want to stay for a while with my 2.6.20-16-generic kernel yet but I'd like to test if the 2.6.22 kernel supports resume from suspend-to-disk better. I am not versed with kernel building. Is it safe to copy (from a Gutsy Tribe 4 CD) /cdrom0/pool/main/linux-source-2.6.22/linux-libc-dev_2.6.22-9.25_i386.deb to /usr/src in order to install a 2.6.22 kernel on trial? [05:49] bullgard4, you are copying libc but that is about it ? [05:50] pretty sure gutsy has better suspend-to-disk though [05:51] xtknight: I do not understand your English "but that is about it" not very well. My intention is to copy a 2.6.22 kernel to my file hierarchy. [05:51] bullgard4, ok, in other words "all you are copying is libc", but not the kernel? [05:52] bullgard4, you will want linux-image. but you shouldn't need to copy libc === mrigns [n=mrigns@ACAD2CA5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:52] xtknight: Where is the kernel to be found on the Gutsy Tribe 4 CD? [05:53] bullgard4, you can download gutsy kernels here http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=linux-image&searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all [05:53] but i have no idea what will happen === elcasey is now known as casey_zzz [05:56] good chatting, everyone. gotta go. g'nite [05:57] xtknight: Gnome Search Tool does not find 'linux-image' on my Gutsy Tribe 4 CD. Are you sure about the 'linux-image' identifier? === sayers [n=steven@c-76-20-182-119.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:58] bullgard4, should be correct [05:58] bullgard4, the cd has the packages in a slightly different manner, not sure [05:58] i know linux-image is the kernel, for certain === mike [n=mike@c-67-186-85-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.49.194] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:01] I am a Vista 64bit Ultimate user, and I would like to transfer over to linux, but so far in 7.04 64bit and 32 dont mesh. [06:02] What is the outlook for the next reelase? === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p54A1E48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:07] tbh, 64bit is a total waste of effort right now [06:09] xtknight, bullgard4 it's linux-image-generic [06:09] Is linux 64bit only for deveolopers? === databuddy [n=starz@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 === xtknight [n=xtknight@c-68-43-122-211.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === databuddy [n=starz@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mrsno [n=mrsno@cpc3-blfs3-0-0-cust868.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:13] nickrud: Gnome Search Tool does not find 'linux-image-generic' on my Gutsy Tribe 4 CD. What directory contains the 'linux-image-generic' file? === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:13] bullgard4, it may not be on the cd; it may only be available over the net. on the cd it'd be linux-image-2.6.22-10-generic [06:14] bullgard4, you'd need linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-10-generic also; it's also a dependency of linux-image-generic === databuddy [n=starz@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mrigns [n=mrigns@ACAD2CA5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:17] bullgard4, to clarify a bit ;) the two ones with numbers are the current kernel release; if you have linux-image-generic installed, when a new numbered kernel comes out, you'll get it automatically; if you don't, your kernel won't upgrade automatically === Ahadiel [n=ahadiel@S010600131042857c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === eMaX_ [n=emax@38-120.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu+1 === allbert [n=allberto@60.53.34.255] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:20] nickrud: I cannot find files on my Gutsy Tribe 4 CD-ROM which have the identifiers you mentioned. In what directory are they stored? === xtknight [n=xtknight@c-68-43-122-211.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:21] bullgard4, a sec, I have to plug in my external to see those iso's === lastent [n=lastent@201.230.56.134] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === unique [n=ubuntu@c-68-81-253-45.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:26] how can I upgrade to the beta release? [06:26] bullgard4, pool/main/l/linux-meta === nickrud hugs his last 1.2 gtk app [06:29] !upgrade | lastent [06:29] lastent: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes [06:30] nickrud: .../pool/manin/l/includes only the following 4 directories: linux-atm, linux-source-2.6.22, linux-wlan-ng, localechooser. [06:31] bullgard4, hm, let me recommend my last gtk1.2 app: gnome-find - it simplifies the find command [06:31] ok i went to the restricted drivers, then enabled the nvidia accelerated graphics driver when i restart all i get is a blue screen... i think the reslotuion is set to high any ideas how to fix this [06:32] bullgard4, I don't have tribe4 and was assuming the layouts hadn't changed [06:32] xtknight, but who can i upgrade to a beta relase? [06:32] nickrud: Is your CD newer or older? [06:32] bullgard4, older [06:32] lastent, -d switch on update-manager for devel [06:33] lastent, "gksu update-manager -d -c" [06:33] '*resolution === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:33] unique: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg iirc [06:34] xtknight, I get this error warning: could not initiate dbus [06:35] lastent, doesn't sound too good to me. you may want to reboot. maybe you got in recovery mode somehow? [06:35] nickrud: afk 7 min [06:36] ok ty === Frost^ [n=sweiss@DSL217-132-197-240.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Dvrmaster [n=IceChat7@fl-71-55-28-52.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:41] okay... reffered from the -1 that i should come here for my xserver problem === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@84.13.126.88] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:44] -1? now that's a new one by me [06:44] the regular ubuntu channel [06:44] since this is plus 2 [06:44] 1* [06:46] then it would be 0 [06:46] lol [06:48] hey [06:49] nickrud: I have not installed gnome-find. I am using Gnome Search Tool. Why do you recommend me to use gnome-find in addition? [06:49] i have ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop installed but i want the xubuntu startup loader bar thing to show up and not the kubuntu loading bar to show [06:50] bullgard4, it uses the find command as a backend; it's a lot more versatile [06:50] how can i do that? [06:50] !usplash | keram [06:50] keram: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork [06:50] nickrud: So I will install it. [06:50] nickrud, thanks [06:51] bullgard4, it's old, old, old, but nothing replaces it yet === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:54] gdm wont restart [06:54] it just flashes blue and says it isnt configured right === se7en^Of^9 [n=se7enofn@125-24-157-60.adsl.totbb.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:59] nickrud: I have got a problem: "detlef@MD97600:~$ gnome-find; Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) serial 14858 error_code 8 request_code 62 minor_code 0". What's that? I probably need to reboot. [06:59] bullgard4, wow, that's really odd. [07:00] nickrud: So I'm going to reboot. This will take a few minutes. === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mrigns [n=mrigns@ACAD2CA5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rockets [n=rockets@pool-71-247-35-247.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF095B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pvandewyngaerde [n=pvandewy@165.68-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mrigns [n=mrigns@ACAD2CA5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compwiz18 [n=adam18@61.149.8.169] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.49.194] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mrigns [n=mrigns@ACAD2CA5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.141.36.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:33] nickrud: I rebooted. If I am looking for 'image' in /media/cdrom, gnome-find will find nothing. If I am looking for the same in /media/cdrom0, gnome-find will crash with the same error message as before. So it will take me some time to become acquainted with this tool. apropos gnome-find will find nothing! === randy026 [n=randy026@70-58-155-80.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:35] bullgard4, man find. It has the same options [07:35] bullgard4, look for linux [07:37] 'apropos linux' does not mention gnome-find. [07:38] Gnome Search Tool will find 4 hits: broken-image.gif, gopher-image.gif, loading-image.gif, images. === randy026 [n=randy026@70-58-155-80.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:47] This will find 'find /media/cdrom0 -iname '*image*' 2>/dev/null' also. === blued [n=blued@c-66-56-72-153.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:50] bullgard4, I meant search for linux; you gotta have some kind of kernel there :) === Sebastian [n=sb@p5088E593.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compwiz18 [n=adam18@61.149.8.169] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:57] nickrud: I've got 13 hits. The largest hit is linux-libc-dev_2.6.22-9.25_i386.deb [07:58] that's not it, it's some kernel headers for compiling === mrigns [n=mrigns@ACAD2CA5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:00] nickrud: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/14393/ Which one is it? === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:02] bullgard4, none of them. That makes absolutely no sense. === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@84.13.126.88] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:03] So another find strategy is needed. [08:06] bullgard4, http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/14395/ that's your search on mine === Ahadiel [n=ahadiel@S010600131042857c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:15] nickrud: That looks much more promising. But I checked my CD. It is all right. [08:18] what is the date/time in that "uname -a" outputs? start or completion of kernel compilation time or what? === instabin|work [n=instabin@c-68-45-153-251.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:27] mlpug: It is the time of the kernel compilation. [08:30] bullgard4, okay. that makes sense. i have multiple kernels and do not know anymore which one is what. I guess its closer to the start of the compilation rather than completion of compilation. do you happen to know this detail? [08:31] mlpug: No. === databuddy [n=starz@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bdgraue [n=bdgraue@host-091-097-093-112.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=dana@24-205-237-211.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === SeveredCross [n=bojan@dhcp-129-64-131-19.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:43] Compiz Fusion FTW. [08:44] On ATI too. [08:44] It just uses hella CPU, but that's expected. [08:46] considering its ati :P [08:46] what ati card? [08:46] Mobility Radeon X1400. [08:46] Which means fglrx, not the open-source radeon driver. [08:47] If it was the open-source radeon driver, I don't think I would have as many issues. [08:47] But Compiz Fusion works, as does Emerald. Video playback works, etc. [08:48] kewl [08:48] congrats then ^^ [08:48] i have x1300 and could not get it running [08:49] i did not try too hard yet thou === kousotu [n=kousotu@adsl-68-79-9-194.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [08:49] just put fglrx and appearance enable -> some error [08:49] Yeah, you have to run Xgl and not X. [08:49] anyone knowa good MUD client that can be used standalone? [08:49] Here's to hoping that someday the opensource driver will work and we won't have to deal with this. [08:52] SeveredCross, where are the instructions to do the xgl part? [08:52] Install xserver-xgl [08:53] Make a script in /usr/local/bin/startxgl.sh [08:53] And put what's in this pastebin in it: [08:53] http://www.pastebin.ca/677671 [08:54] Then make a file in /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop [08:55] And put this in it: [08:55] http://www.pastebin.ca/677672 [08:55] Make sure to chmod a+x /usr/local/bin/startxgl.sh [08:56] And make sure you have Composite turnd off in xorg.conf [08:56] Add [08:56] Section "Extensions" [08:56] Option "Composite" "0" [08:56] EndSection [08:56] Restart X, choose the Xgl session and you should be greeted with Compiz [08:57] It takes some screwing around to get the cube and everything working right. [08:57] Expo should work, just pull your mouse into the top left corner. [08:57] Top right corner should be the Mac OS show thing where all your windows fly into the screen and you see all of them everywhere. [08:57] Err all of them at once. === mrigns [n=mrigns@ACAD2CA5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === soul9 [n=Nil@unaffiliated/soul9] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:00] anyone knowa good MUD client that can be used standalone? === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === soul9 [n=Nil@unaffiliated/soul9] has joined #ubuntu+1 === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.24.125] has joined #ubuntu+1 === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.24.125] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [09:29] Anyone had any issues with GStreamer being totally borked? [09:30] Banshee and Rhythmbox won't play anything. [09:31] Hmm, let's try AmaroK. [09:36] AmaroK works, but KDE software is very broken...It all has to run as root or else it doesn't work. === duud [n=dima@p50888A58.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === duud [n=dima@p50888A58.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === mrigns [n=mrigns@unaffiliated/mrigns] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Adlai_ [n=leif@cpe-66-67-2-154.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:50] I just installed amd64 gutsy and updated, and now X won't start [09:50] It gives me the following 'backtrace': === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:52] Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 260: dl_open_worker: Assertion `_dl_debug_initialize (0, args->nsid)->r_state == RT_CONSISTENT' failed! === Ahadiel [n=ahadiel@S010600131042857c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:00] hi, is anybody here? :) === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tomsku [n=tomsku@dsl-trebrasgw1-fe54fa00-250.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Asad2005 [n=gusty32@89.148.56.86] has joined #ubuntu+1 === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Frost^ [n=sweiss@89-138-126-247.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mewt [n=mewt@88.203.7.161] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:16] Hi I'm trying to use update manager to upgrade to gutsy..prob is, it's halting in one of the repos saying MD5 sum mismatch [10:16] anyone getting the same ? === finalbeta [n=viper@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:17] Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-updates/main/source/Sources.bz2 MD5Sum mismatch [10:18] that's the old feisty repos either way :S === ke- [n=kenneth@port272.ds1-aboes.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === soul9 [n=Nil@unaffiliated/soul9] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-8-57.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mrigns [n=mrigns@ACAD2CA5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === gourdin [n=adept@dau94-8-88-166-31-178.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === AnRkey [n=AnRkey@host-83-146-42-229.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === twilight_ [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:44] hi [10:44] i write bad script and remove half of my system :) [10:44] i dont have any deb manager and even mc :) [10:45] can some one have ide how to repair it? [10:45] i think i will mount and chroot it [10:45] hmmm === twilight_ is now known as twilight [10:50] bump ? [10:54] Night guys === mrigns [n=mrigns@ACAD2CA5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === borg_ [n=olaf@80.149.17.21] has joined #ubuntu+1 === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-37-243.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cavediver [i=jonas@trimix.eklof.eu] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === Ilokaasu [n=matti@dsl-aur-ff27c000-33.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sahin_h [n=ezaz@dsl5402AB8B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:22] kk === linxeh [n=linx@88-96-202-38.dsl.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:22] can some one tell me how in aptitude mark all packages wchich one are installed? === Netham45 [n=netham@c-67-190-103-57.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-184-60.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:50] Is there away to revert to old synaptic gui, i dont seems to find out why it doesnot find several apps while universe and multiverse are enabled [11:51] old synaptic GUI? [11:51] synaptic hasn't changed [11:51] you're probably using gnome-app-install [11:51] System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager [11:55] the GUI looks different in gusty yes === stefg [n=stefg@e179146091.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:57] !info gcc gutsy [11:57] gcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-8ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB [11:59] Amaranth, try searching hddtemp or computertemp in synaptic you will see no result but apt-cache finds it ok [11:59] Asad2005: it doesn't look different [11:59] Asad2005: and i can find those in synaptic just fine [12:00] Asad2005: like i said, it sounds like you're looking at gnome-app-install [12:00] Amaranth, Then why it doesnt find some apps while apt finds them well === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:00] Asad2005: You are not using synaptic. [12:01] Asad2005: Does the left side of the window you think is synaptic have a list of the categories in your Applications menu? [12:01] Amaranth, letme recheck [12:02] Amaranth, Yes you are right many thanks [12:02] Can someone enlighten me what service is responsible for getting gnomes session together? For educational purposes i've installed gutsy server to start with and add packages manually (no meta-packages). i've got gdm, metacity and gnome-settings-daemon, but metacity doesn't autostart when logging in (have to manually start from term to get window decorations). Where to look? === jsomers [n=jsomers@d51A50113.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === albert23 [n=albert@86.81.99.204] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:05] stefg: gnome-session [12:06] aarrghhh.... of course... would certainly help to install that :-) [12:06] but that's the point... learn what does what [12:07] stefg: Install lfs then? :) [12:08] Tomcat_: did that some time ago... so the basics are clear to me, but i specifically want to examine gutsys gut [12:08] Oh, alright. :) === cowbud [n=fuas@or-76-2-9-153.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === noah__ [i=29572@WideOpenBSD.ORG] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === awen [n=andreas@cpe.atm2-0-73472.0x535f07b2.albnxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pecisk [n=pecisk@purvc-69-54.maksinets.lv] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:19] Can't locate Debconf/Db.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 6. [12:19] BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 6. [12:19] can some one help me, or provide this file? [12:26] is xserver-xgl necessary; or is it possible to turn off Xgl? === __tim [n=timm@dsl-217-155-195-89.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === matysek [n=matysek@195.Red-88-14-186.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DeepB [n=Joe@unaffiliated/deepb] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.49.194] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:13] when I try to open the monitor and display in system settings on gutsy it claims to be missing libpython2.5.so [01:14] happened after upgrading today... anybody else having this problem? or how to debug or fix? [01:17] awen try to install the missing file [01:18] err, the missing file is a fundamental library of a fundamental part of ubuntu [01:18] i hope it's just a linker error :P [01:18]