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VWJ1bnR1 | Will anything bad happen if I stop compiling my kernel? | 01:50 |
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VWJ1bnR1 | You know...by killing the command? | 01:50 |
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JanC | VWJ1bnR1: nothing really bad should happen | 01:58 |
VWJ1bnR1 | JanC: but you wouldn't recommend it... | 02:01 |
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JanC | VWJ1bnR1: you might lose the work the compiler already did, but otherwise there shouldn't be any problems AFAIK | 02:08 |
VWJ1bnR1 | *whew*. Thanks. | 02:09 |
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kousotu | BenC: how would I go about filing a bug report for this? | 02:15 |
kousotu | and it affected more than just the sound, unfortunatly | 02:15 |
kousotu | brb | 02:25 |
BenC | kylem: current ubuntu-gutsy builds on amd64 and i386 | 02:30 |
BenC | had to fixup a foobar in the -rt patch | 02:30 |
kylem | looks to be building on lpia as well | 02:30 |
mjg59 | Hrmph. gstreamer is still broken with the isight. | 02:30 |
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kousotu | BenC: can you help me run the AG5007EG wifi card under ndiswrapper? | 03:46 |
zul__ | BenC: is xen building for amd64 yet? | 03:48 |
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arooni | hey folks; i have a t61 with intel_hda sound card... anyway i installed my alsa drivers from source then modrpobe'd intel_snd_hda.... and it worked; later i the upgrade bit...... and now it doesn't work any more :( | 04:26 |
arooni | no sound card shows up | 04:26 |
kylem | so reinstall it from source... | 04:27 |
arooni | kylem, i have tried; did not work :( | 04:28 |
kylem | ah, hrm, probably because it's now in lum | 04:32 |
kylem | try rm -f /lib/modules/2.6.22-10-generic/ubuntu/media/snd-hda-intel/snd-hda-intel.ko | 04:32 |
kylem | and rebooting | 04:32 |
kylem | we're working to fix it, but i imagine you'd like it working now. | 04:32 |
kylem | :) | 04:32 |
arooni | kylem, ;p | 04:35 |
arooni | kylem, are you a dev for cannonical? | 04:35 |
kylem | yeah. | 04:35 |
arooni | sweet | 04:35 |
arooni | i salute you | 04:35 |
kylem | np. | 04:35 |
arooni | i love love love ubuntu | 04:36 |
arooni | i've killed all windows from my computers at home | 04:36 |
arooni | kylem, should i file a bug about this behavior? | 04:36 |
arooni | kylem, should i go ahead and re install after deleting the *.ko file? | 04:37 |
kylem | nah, you should just be able to run depmod and reboot and have it pick up the installed-from-source one. | 04:39 |
kylem | hopefully by monday this will be fixed. | 04:39 |
kousotu | kylem: do you know any good, easy tu use front-ends for WPA wi-fi? | 04:42 |
kylem | network-manager | 04:42 |
kousotu | the enbedded one? | 04:44 |
kousotu | will it work well with ndiswrapper? | 04:44 |
kylem | no idea. | 04:44 |
kylem | it should, ndiswrapper implements wext at least semi-properly afaik. | 04:45 |
kousotu | wifi did nothing for my wifi... | 04:45 |
kousotu | well, better than not at all with my zd1211rw | 04:45 |
kousotu | (most likely hardware, not software) | 04:46 |
kousotu | so how do I remov wifi-radar? | 04:46 |
kylem | eh? you can remove it with synaptic. | 04:47 |
kousotu | ah... | 04:50 |
kousotu | forgot about that | 04:50 |
kousotu | hm.. well, about to find out if it works, brb | 04:53 |
bullgard4 | What is the reason that the ACPI Specification 3.0 prefixes Control methods with an underscore character, e. g. '_GTS'? | 04:53 |
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kousotu | well, it disconnected instantly, reloaded it and now it's fully functional | 04:55 |
kousotu | thanks kylem | 04:55 |
kylem | np. | 04:56 |
kousotu | this fixes my wifi issue | 04:56 |
kousotu | lol | 04:56 |
mjg59 | bullgard4: To indicate that they're reserved | 04:56 |
bullgard4 | ty | 04:56 |
kousotu | now if only my sound would work.... | 04:56 |
kousotu | seems updates in gutsy hurts everyone's sound | 04:57 |
kousotu | lol | 04:57 |
kousotu | een bad for me in the last 3 tribes | 04:57 |
kousotu | been* | 04:57 |
kousotu | kylem: any ideas on how I might go about compiling the sound card from source? | 04:59 |
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kylem | yes, there's instructions on www.alsa-project.org | 04:59 |
arooni | hey kylem ..... everything worked great!!!!!!!!! | 04:59 |
arooni | thanx a lot for the suggestion | 04:59 |
kylem | np. | 04:59 |
arooni | so i dont need to log the bug correct? | 05:00 |
arooni | if i have this lappy for 3 years.... will it continue to be well supported by ubuntu? | 05:00 |
arooni | (t61; 2ghz dual core, 2gb ram; etc...) | 05:00 |
kylem | yeah. | 05:01 |
kousotu | it's not listed | 05:01 |
kousotu | brb | 05:01 |
kylem | because i have one. :P | 05:01 |
kousotu | bro gettin bitchy | 05:01 |
arooni | kylem, ;p seems to be a popular laptop | 05:01 |
kylem | yeah, it's quite nice, but a little bulky with the battery sticking out the back. | 05:01 |
arooni | kylem, did you get 14.1 screen? | 05:02 |
kylem | so i carry around my macbook instead, oh well. | 05:02 |
arooni | w/ camera ? | 05:02 |
kylem | yeah, i think it's 14.1 | 05:02 |
arooni | yah but the keyboard rox + mouse thhingy | 05:02 |
kylem | but no camera. | 05:02 |
arooni | thats a shame ;( how will the camera be supported ? heh | 05:04 |
kylem | hmm, i didn't even know there was one. if it's usbvideo it might work out of the box with usbvideo | 05:06 |
mjg59 | Yeah, google suggests it's uvc-compliant | 05:08 |
mjg59 | So it /ought/ to Just Work if you have linux-ubuntu-modules installed | 05:08 |
arooni | mjg59, is that a package? | 05:08 |
mjg59 | Yes | 05:09 |
mjg59 | In gutsy | 05:09 |
arooni | E: Couldn't find package linux-ubuntu-modules | 05:10 |
arooni | i have gutsy | 05:10 |
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kylem | linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 | 05:11 |
arooni | how does everyone know the name of modules so accuarately | 05:11 |
kousotu | kylem: is there a way to make ubuntu automatically connect on bott to a specific network, without using the keyring? | 05:11 |
arooni | i'm guessing you dont memorize them | 05:11 |
kylem | arooni, it's my job. | 05:12 |
kousotu | lol | 05:12 |
arooni | E: Couldn't find package linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 | 05:12 |
kylem | kousotu, er, dunno, keyring works for me. | 05:12 |
arooni | am i missing something in sources.list ? | 05:12 |
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kousotu | kylem: works for me too, but then if refuses to connect untill I manually conect to the network | 05:12 |
kylem | arooni, no, we're just missing meta packages, anyway, you probably have it installed already if you have linux-generic installed. | 05:12 |
arooni | kylem, i do have linux-generic... but when i go to webcam testing sites.... it doesnt show up ;( | 05:13 |
kousotu | kylem: any dea what package I'd need for realtek ALC83? | 05:19 |
kousotu | idea* | 05:19 |
crimsun | kousotu: presuming you're referring to HDA [ALCx83] , you shouldn't need anything above and beyond linux-image-2.6.22-10-generic and linux-ubuntu-module-2.6.22-10-generic [but the latter isn't even relevant there] | 05:50 |
crimsun | err, linux-ubuntu-modules-, even | 05:50 |
kousotu | crimsun: well, the updates kiled my sound | 05:50 |
kousotu | lol | 05:50 |
crimsun | check and make sure you didn't get a fubar upgrade | 05:50 |
crimsun | if `modinfo snd-hda-intel` doesn't return a bunch of info, then purge and reinstall linux-image-`uname -r` | 05:51 |
kylem | snd-hda-intel is in lum atm. | 05:51 |
kousotu | ? | 05:52 |
crimsun | kylem: ok, thanks | 05:52 |
crimsun | kousotu: presuming you're referring to gutsy, is linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-10-generic installed? | 05:52 |
kousotu | yes, I am running gutsy | 05:53 |
kousotu | I installed litle on te os, it is installedbe default? | 05:53 |
kousotu | by* | 05:53 |
kousotu | I am a linux noob, just so as you know | 05:53 |
kylem | dunno why it would be broken, it's running the same code that's in linux-source-2.6.22 barring one line of patch. | 05:53 |
kousotu | kylem: it worked, untill I updated | 05:54 |
kousotu | so on of the 2 patches of pdates broke it | 05:55 |
kousotu | updates* | 05:55 |
kousotu | batches* | 05:55 |
kylem | which version did it work in? | 05:55 |
kousotu | ? | 05:56 |
kousotu | it worked in "factory default" 4 and 5 | 05:56 |
crimsun | reading backscroll, it doesn't seem like the driver should have anything to do with it. | 05:56 |
kousotu | but the moment I updated it died | 05:56 |
kousotu | oh. | 05:57 |
kylem | "factory default"? | 05:57 |
kousotu | and it worked ok in Tribe 4 alpha | 05:57 |
kousotu | I knew you were gona ask me that | 05:57 |
kousotu | lol | 05:57 |
crimsun | I notice that ben asked him to run asoundconf set-default-card, but the parameter that was passed seems incorrect | 05:57 |
kousotu | from cd to hd, no mods | 05:57 |
crimsun | kousotu: does `aplay -Dplughw:0 /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav` play audibly? | 05:58 |
kousotu | no | 05:58 |
crimsun | is there an error, or does it appear to play inaudibly? | 05:58 |
kousotu | inaudably | 05:58 |
kousotu | I checked with my old pc speakers in as headphones, it does play, but not through the laptp speakers | 05:59 |
kousotu | ad I want it to pla on the laptop speakers | 06:00 |
kousotu | it did that ok untill I updated | 06:00 |
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kousotu | (sorry bout the typos, lousy laptop keyboard. regret buying it) | 06:01 |
crimsun | if you boot from the tribe 5 desktop cd, are the symptoms identical? | 06:02 |
kousotu | the CD plays sound | 06:02 |
kousotu | as it did from the start | 06:03 |
kousotu | but once I installed the package updates it stoppedworking | 06:03 |
kousotu | I'm almost tempted to find the alpha andtry that | 06:03 |
mjg59 | What alpha? | 06:04 |
kousotu | tribe 5 alpha | 06:04 |
kousotu | I had tribe 4's | 06:04 |
crimsun | kousotu: please grab http://trilug.org/~crimsun/alsa-info.sh, and execute `bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh` in a Terminal | 06:04 |
mjg59 | But you just said tribe 5 worked | 06:04 |
kousotu | kousotu@kousotu-laptop:~$ bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh | 06:06 |
kousotu | bash: /home/kousotu/Desktop/alsa-info.sh: No such file or directory | 06:06 |
crimsun | kousotu: make sure you download the file and save it to the Desktop | 06:06 |
kousotu | you frgot to saysave it | 06:06 |
kousotu | lol | 06:06 |
crimsun | right, sorry, should have made that explicit | 06:07 |
kousotu | http://pastebin.ca/677554 | 06:07 |
kousotu | n prob | 06:07 |
kousotu | no* | 06:07 |
kousotu | after the 4th attempt I figured that out | 06:08 |
kousotu | lol | 06:08 |
crimsun | hmm, you didn't adjust your mixer levels using the volume applet (speaker applet in the top left) | 06:09 |
crimsun | ? | 06:09 |
mjg59 | crimsun: Top right :p | 06:09 |
kousotu | ? | 06:09 |
kousotu | I did | 06:09 |
crimsun | right, other left :p | 06:09 |
kousotu | lol | 06:09 |
mjg59 | kousotu: Is it possible that you've, y'know, just turned your speakers down? | 06:09 |
kousotu | mjg59: not possible, ther're inbeded into my laptop | 06:10 |
mjg59 | kousotu: No, from the mixer | 06:10 |
kousotu | I turned them up | 06:10 |
mjg59 | Double click on the speaker | 06:11 |
mjg59 | Play with all the sliders there | 06:11 |
kousotu | PCM CD PC Speaker, MAX | 06:11 |
kousotu | as I had it at install | 06:11 |
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mjg59 | Select edit/preferences and then click on all the boxes there | 06:11 |
mjg59 | Then play with the rest of the slidesr | 06:11 |
kousotu | that won't do anything, I tied that befor too | 06:12 |
mjg59 | Humour me | 06:12 |
mjg59 | If nothing works, wait until the l-u-m update next week, which will probably fix it | 06:12 |
kousotu | ok, wel, this is what happened: it did play when I fiddeld with them, surround make my PC shriek, and it only playes at a low olume | 06:16 |
kousotu | and it only playes with surround on | 06:16 |
kousotu | playes* | 06:16 |
kousotu | ok, there we go | 06:17 |
kousotu | now it works | 06:18 |
kousotu | thanks | 06:18 |
kousotu | oh, one last thing.. | 06:19 |
kousotu | who's in charge of todem? | 06:19 |
mjg59 | Nobody's in charge of any one package | 06:19 |
kousotu | oh.. well , it crashes instantly on me | 06:19 |
mjg59 | Turn off desktop effects | 06:21 |
kousotu | they are off | 06:21 |
mjg59 | system/preferences/appearence | 06:21 |
kousotu | wel, I havebasic on, but that didn't crash it in 4 | 06:21 |
mjg59 | Turn off desktop effects | 06:21 |
kousotu | I use vlc, I'm just reporting i | 06:22 |
kousotu | it* | 06:22 |
mjg59 | Yes. I know. Turn off desktop effects. | 06:22 |
mjg59 | Does it then work? | 06:22 |
kousotu | without sound | 06:23 |
kousotu | lol | 06:23 |
kousotu | and fyi, vlc has sound now, todem still doesn't | 06:25 |
kousotu | same file | 06:25 |
mjg59 | In any case, not a kernel issue | 06:25 |
kousotu | well, didn't know who to reportthat to, that's why I asked | 06:26 |
kousotu | so the lum update should fix the sound completely? | 06:26 |
mjg59 | It's a known issue | 06:26 |
mjg59 | You not switching your speakers off in the mixer should fix the sound completely | 06:26 |
kousotu | k | 06:26 |
kousotu | I have never turned the off | 06:27 |
kousotu | I turn them down, but not of | 06:27 |
kousotu | of* | 06:27 |
mjg59 | The setting didn't change on its own | 06:27 |
kousotu | ... | 06:27 |
kousotu | it defaulted at that | 06:27 |
kousotu | blease on't sit here nd accuse my of being dumb | 06:28 |
mjg59 | No, if it defaulted to that it wouldn't have worked when you booted the CD | 06:28 |
kousotu | I'm not using a CD | 06:28 |
kousotu | I'm using an MP3 | 06:28 |
mjg59 | You said that it worked when you used the CD | 06:28 |
kousotu | ok, misscommuncation | 06:28 |
kousotu | I meant the liv CD | 06:28 |
kousotu | live* | 06:28 |
mjg59 | Yes | 06:28 |
mjg59 | If the sound worked then, then the defaults worked | 06:29 |
kousotu | right | 06:29 |
mjg59 | Therefore it didn't default to not working | 06:29 |
mjg59 | Therefore you changed it by accident at some stage | 06:30 |
kousotu | nope | 06:30 |
mjg59 | Yes. | 06:30 |
kousotu | let me xplain | 06:30 |
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kousotu | I used the MP3 on the live CD, the sound was fine. when I installed T5, it was fine untill I updated | 06:30 |
kousotu | I don't know what did it, but something, NOT ME, shut them off | 06:31 |
kousotu | and didn't touch the settings | 06:31 |
crimsun | it's worth noting that sound state (e.g., mixer levels) are stored separately in a file | 06:32 |
kousotu | ? | 06:32 |
kousotu | maybe the update messed with it? | 06:32 |
kousotu | it's possible | 06:32 |
crimsun | what he's alluding to is the fact that hardware-wise, your sound is fine, and with the next l-u-m update, it should be completely fixed (i.e., not having to fiddle with mixer levels to achieve the speakers/hp) | 06:33 |
kousotu | somehow I have "surround" sound | 06:33 |
kousotu | good, no more troubles (hopefuly) | 06:33 |
kousotu | will the sound buttons onmy laptop be able to control the volume then too? | 06:33 |
kousotu | because it cannot right now | 06:34 |
kousotu | I haveto manually adjust them | 06:34 |
crimsun | you should be able to do that (i.e., configure that) | 06:34 |
kousotu | how? | 06:35 |
crimsun | in the menu, System> Preferences> Sound | 06:35 |
kousotu | doesn't look like it | 06:35 |
crimsun | in the left-most (default) tab, "Devices", look at the bottom "Default Mixer Tracks" | 06:35 |
kousotu | yea | 06:36 |
kousotu | I see it. that what the buttons on the laptop controls? | 06:36 |
crimsun | in all cases that I know of, yes, that can be configured | 06:36 |
kousotu | yep, tht works now too | 06:37 |
kousotu | you guys are good | 06:37 |
kousotu | can you humor this question?: is there any reason that a Stereo speaker would all of a sudden go surround? | 06:39 |
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Whoopie | mjg59: I saw that you're working at card readers atm. Could you also consider adding sdricoh_cs (http://sdricohcs.sourceforge.net/)? | 12:38 |
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Kousotu | he BenC | 03:31 |
Kousotu | hey* | 03:31 |
bullgard4 | What is menat by an 'ACPI status register' about which mjg59 wrote? I could not find this term in the ACPI Specification version 3.0b. | 03:33 |
bullgard4 | meant | 03:33 |
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Nafallo | anyone know what kind of raid ICH7-R is? | 05:52 |
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