=== IanC26 [n=IanC26@2002:cb36:1c94:4:216:6fff:fe39:ff6e] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-077-157.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:50] Will anything bad happen if I stop compiling my kernel? [01:50] You know...by killing the command? === ionstorm [n=ion@70-58-119-250.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:58] VWJ1bnR1: nothing really bad should happen [02:01] JanC: but you wouldn't recommend it... === arno-t [n=arno-t@213.80-202-157.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:08] VWJ1bnR1: you might lose the work the compiler already did, but otherwise there shouldn't be any problems AFAIK [02:09] *whew*. Thanks. === kousotu [n=kousotu@adsl-68-79-9-194.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:15] BenC: how would I go about filing a bug report for this? [02:15] and it affected more than just the sound, unfortunatly [02:25] brb [02:30] kylem: current ubuntu-gutsy builds on amd64 and i386 [02:30] had to fixup a foobar in the -rt patch [02:30] looks to be building on lpia as well [02:30] Hrmph. gstreamer is still broken with the isight. === mjg59 blames gstreamer - the version in feisty works fine === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host57-130-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === arno-t_ [n=arno-t@213.80-202-157.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host57-130-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === chrisle [n=chris@e178127052.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === kousotu [n=kousotu@adsl-68-79-9-194.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:46] BenC: can you help me run the AG5007EG wifi card under ndiswrapper? [03:48] BenC: is xen building for amd64 yet? === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF0C38.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === kousotu [n=kousotu@adsl-68-79-9-194.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === arooni [n=arooni__@c-67-183-138-62.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:26] hey folks; i have a t61 with intel_hda sound card... anyway i installed my alsa drivers from source then modrpobe'd intel_snd_hda.... and it worked; later i the upgrade bit...... and now it doesn't work any more :( [04:26] no sound card shows up [04:27] so reinstall it from source... [04:28] kylem, i have tried; did not work :( [04:32] ah, hrm, probably because it's now in lum [04:32] try rm -f /lib/modules/2.6.22-10-generic/ubuntu/media/snd-hda-intel/snd-hda-intel.ko [04:32] and rebooting [04:32] we're working to fix it, but i imagine you'd like it working now. [04:32] :) [04:35] kylem, ;p [04:35] kylem, are you a dev for cannonical? [04:35] yeah. [04:35] sweet [04:35] i salute you [04:35] np. [04:36] i love love love ubuntu [04:36] i've killed all windows from my computers at home [04:36] kylem, should i file a bug about this behavior? [04:37] kylem, should i go ahead and re install after deleting the *.ko file? [04:39] nah, you should just be able to run depmod and reboot and have it pick up the installed-from-source one. [04:39] hopefully by monday this will be fixed. [04:42] kylem: do you know any good, easy tu use front-ends for WPA wi-fi? [04:42] network-manager [04:44] the enbedded one? [04:44] will it work well with ndiswrapper? [04:44] no idea. [04:45] it should, ndiswrapper implements wext at least semi-properly afaik. [04:45] wifi did nothing for my wifi... [04:45] well, better than not at all with my zd1211rw [04:46] (most likely hardware, not software) [04:46] so how do I remov wifi-radar? [04:47] eh? you can remove it with synaptic. [04:50] ah... [04:50] forgot about that [04:53] hm.. well, about to find out if it works, brb [04:53] What is the reason that the ACPI Specification 3.0 prefixes Control methods with an underscore character, e. g. '_GTS'? === kousotu [n=kousotu@adsl-68-79-9-194.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:55] well, it disconnected instantly, reloaded it and now it's fully functional [04:55] thanks kylem [04:56] np. [04:56] this fixes my wifi issue [04:56] lol [04:56] bullgard4: To indicate that they're reserved [04:56] ty [04:56] now if only my sound would work.... [04:57] seems updates in gutsy hurts everyone's sound [04:57] lol [04:57] een bad for me in the last 3 tribes [04:57] been* [04:59] kylem: any ideas on how I might go about compiling the sound card from source? === arooni [n=arooni__@c-67-183-138-62.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:59] yes, there's instructions on www.alsa-project.org [04:59] hey kylem ..... everything worked great!!!!!!!!! [04:59] thanx a lot for the suggestion [04:59] np. [05:00] so i dont need to log the bug correct? [05:00] if i have this lappy for 3 years.... will it continue to be well supported by ubuntu? [05:00] (t61; 2ghz dual core, 2gb ram; etc...) [05:01] yeah. [05:01] it's not listed [05:01] brb [05:01] because i have one. :P [05:01] bro gettin bitchy [05:01] kylem, ;p seems to be a popular laptop [05:01] yeah, it's quite nice, but a little bulky with the battery sticking out the back. [05:02] kylem, did you get 14.1 screen? [05:02] so i carry around my macbook instead, oh well. [05:02] w/ camera ? [05:02] yeah, i think it's 14.1 [05:02] yah but the keyboard rox + mouse thhingy [05:02] but no camera. [05:04] thats a shame ;( how will the camera be supported ? heh [05:06] hmm, i didn't even know there was one. if it's usbvideo it might work out of the box with usbvideo [05:08] Yeah, google suggests it's uvc-compliant [05:08] So it /ought/ to Just Work if you have linux-ubuntu-modules installed [05:08] mjg59, is that a package? [05:09] Yes [05:09] In gutsy [05:10] E: Couldn't find package linux-ubuntu-modules [05:10] i have gutsy === kousotu [n=kousotu@adsl-68-79-9-194.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:11] linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 [05:11] how does everyone know the name of modules so accuarately [05:11] kylem: is there a way to make ubuntu automatically connect on bott to a specific network, without using the keyring? [05:11] i'm guessing you dont memorize them [05:12] arooni, it's my job. [05:12] lol [05:12] E: Couldn't find package linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 [05:12] kousotu, er, dunno, keyring works for me. [05:12] am i missing something in sources.list ? === m0rg0th [n=m0rg0th@220.226.24.77] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:12] kylem: works for me too, but then if refuses to connect untill I manually conect to the network [05:12] arooni, no, we're just missing meta packages, anyway, you probably have it installed already if you have linux-generic installed. [05:13] kylem, i do have linux-generic... but when i go to webcam testing sites.... it doesnt show up ;( [05:19] kylem: any dea what package I'd need for realtek ALC83? [05:19] idea* [05:50] kousotu: presuming you're referring to HDA [ALCx83] , you shouldn't need anything above and beyond linux-image-2.6.22-10-generic and linux-ubuntu-module-2.6.22-10-generic [but the latter isn't even relevant there] [05:50] err, linux-ubuntu-modules-, even [05:50] crimsun: well, the updates kiled my sound [05:50] lol [05:50] check and make sure you didn't get a fubar upgrade [05:51] if `modinfo snd-hda-intel` doesn't return a bunch of info, then purge and reinstall linux-image-`uname -r` [05:51] snd-hda-intel is in lum atm. [05:52] ? [05:52] kylem: ok, thanks [05:52] kousotu: presuming you're referring to gutsy, is linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-10-generic installed? [05:53] yes, I am running gutsy [05:53] I installed litle on te os, it is installedbe default? [05:53] by* [05:53] I am a linux noob, just so as you know [05:53] dunno why it would be broken, it's running the same code that's in linux-source-2.6.22 barring one line of patch. [05:54] kylem: it worked, untill I updated [05:55] so on of the 2 patches of pdates broke it [05:55] updates* [05:55] batches* [05:55] which version did it work in? [05:56] ? [05:56] it worked in "factory default" 4 and 5 [05:56] reading backscroll, it doesn't seem like the driver should have anything to do with it. [05:56] but the moment I updated it died [05:57] oh. [05:57] "factory default"? [05:57] and it worked ok in Tribe 4 alpha [05:57] I knew you were gona ask me that [05:57] lol [05:57] I notice that ben asked him to run asoundconf set-default-card, but the parameter that was passed seems incorrect [05:57] from cd to hd, no mods [05:58] kousotu: does `aplay -Dplughw:0 /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav` play audibly? [05:58] no [05:58] is there an error, or does it appear to play inaudibly? [05:58] inaudably [05:59] I checked with my old pc speakers in as headphones, it does play, but not through the laptp speakers [06:00] ad I want it to pla on the laptop speakers [06:00] it did that ok untill I updated === joris_ [i=joris@082-146-097-218.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:01] (sorry bout the typos, lousy laptop keyboard. regret buying it) [06:02] if you boot from the tribe 5 desktop cd, are the symptoms identical? [06:02] the CD plays sound [06:03] as it did from the start [06:03] but once I installed the package updates it stoppedworking [06:03] I'm almost tempted to find the alpha andtry that [06:04] What alpha? [06:04] tribe 5 alpha [06:04] I had tribe 4's [06:04] kousotu: please grab http://trilug.org/~crimsun/alsa-info.sh, and execute `bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh` in a Terminal [06:04] But you just said tribe 5 worked [06:06] kousotu@kousotu-laptop:~$ bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh [06:06] bash: /home/kousotu/Desktop/alsa-info.sh: No such file or directory [06:06] kousotu: make sure you download the file and save it to the Desktop [06:06] you frgot to saysave it [06:06] lol [06:07] right, sorry, should have made that explicit [06:07] http://pastebin.ca/677554 [06:07] n prob [06:07] no* [06:08] after the 4th attempt I figured that out [06:08] lol [06:09] hmm, you didn't adjust your mixer levels using the volume applet (speaker applet in the top left) [06:09] ? [06:09] crimsun: Top right :p [06:09] ? [06:09] I did [06:09] right, other left :p [06:09] lol [06:09] kousotu: Is it possible that you've, y'know, just turned your speakers down? [06:10] mjg59: not possible, ther're inbeded into my laptop [06:10] kousotu: No, from the mixer [06:10] I turned them up [06:11] Double click on the speaker [06:11] Play with all the sliders there [06:11] PCM CD PC Speaker, MAX [06:11] as I had it at install === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:11] Select edit/preferences and then click on all the boxes there [06:11] Then play with the rest of the slidesr [06:12] that won't do anything, I tied that befor too [06:12] Humour me [06:12] If nothing works, wait until the l-u-m update next week, which will probably fix it [06:16] ok, wel, this is what happened: it did play when I fiddeld with them, surround make my PC shriek, and it only playes at a low olume [06:16] and it only playes with surround on [06:16] playes* [06:17] ok, there we go [06:18] now it works [06:18] thanks [06:19] oh, one last thing.. [06:19] who's in charge of todem? [06:19] Nobody's in charge of any one package [06:19] oh.. well , it crashes instantly on me [06:21] Turn off desktop effects [06:21] they are off [06:21] system/preferences/appearence [06:21] wel, I havebasic on, but that didn't crash it in 4 [06:21] Turn off desktop effects [06:22] I use vlc, I'm just reporting i [06:22] it* [06:22] Yes. I know. Turn off desktop effects. [06:22] Does it then work? [06:23] without sound [06:23] lol [06:25] and fyi, vlc has sound now, todem still doesn't [06:25] same file [06:25] In any case, not a kernel issue [06:26] well, didn't know who to reportthat to, that's why I asked [06:26] so the lum update should fix the sound completely? [06:26] It's a known issue [06:26] You not switching your speakers off in the mixer should fix the sound completely [06:26] k [06:27] I have never turned the off [06:27] I turn them down, but not of [06:27] of* [06:27] The setting didn't change on its own [06:27] ... [06:27] it defaulted at that [06:28] blease on't sit here nd accuse my of being dumb [06:28] No, if it defaulted to that it wouldn't have worked when you booted the CD [06:28] I'm not using a CD [06:28] I'm using an MP3 [06:28] You said that it worked when you used the CD [06:28] ok, misscommuncation [06:28] I meant the liv CD [06:28] live* [06:28] Yes [06:29] If the sound worked then, then the defaults worked [06:29] right [06:29] Therefore it didn't default to not working [06:30] Therefore you changed it by accident at some stage [06:30] nope [06:30] Yes. [06:30] let me xplain === mjg59 goes to bed [06:30] I used the MP3 on the live CD, the sound was fine. when I installed T5, it was fine untill I updated [06:31] I don't know what did it, but something, NOT ME, shut them off [06:31] and didn't touch the settings [06:32] it's worth noting that sound state (e.g., mixer levels) are stored separately in a file [06:32] ? [06:32] maybe the update messed with it? [06:32] it's possible [06:33] what he's alluding to is the fact that hardware-wise, your sound is fine, and with the next l-u-m update, it should be completely fixed (i.e., not having to fiddle with mixer levels to achieve the speakers/hp) [06:33] somehow I have "surround" sound [06:33] good, no more troubles (hopefuly) [06:33] will the sound buttons onmy laptop be able to control the volume then too? [06:34] because it cannot right now [06:34] I haveto manually adjust them [06:34] you should be able to do that (i.e., configure that) [06:35] how? [06:35] in the menu, System> Preferences> Sound [06:35] doesn't look like it [06:35] in the left-most (default) tab, "Devices", look at the bottom "Default Mixer Tracks" [06:36] yea [06:36] I see it. that what the buttons on the laptop controls? [06:36] in all cases that I know of, yes, that can be configured [06:37] yep, tht works now too [06:37] you guys are good [06:39] can you humor this question?: is there any reason that a Stereo speaker would all of a sudden go surround? === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF095B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === kousotu [n=kousotu@adsl-68-79-9-194.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === kousotu [n=kousotu@adsl-68-79-9-194.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Konversation] === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-130-144.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@22-115.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-130-144.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === IanC26 [n=IanC26@2002:cb36:1c76:4:216:6fff:fe39:ff6e] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === alleeHol [n=ach@dialin-145-254-254-236.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-132-125.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Whoopie [n=Whoopie@unaffiliated/whoopie] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:38] mjg59: I saw that you're working at card readers atm. Could you also consider adding sdricoh_cs (http://sdricohcs.sourceforge.net/)? === gicmo [n=gicmo@91.64.103.94] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host57-130-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === cobman [n=justinas@194.176.50.25] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Kousotu [i=Invincib@adsl-68-79-9-194.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:31] he BenC [03:31] hey* [03:33] What is menat by an 'ACPI status register' about which mjg59 wrote? I could not find this term in the ACPI Specification version 3.0b. 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