[01:16] <tgm4883_laptop> Daviey, Pong
[01:16] <tgm4883_laptop> Laga, does that mean I win a prize?
[01:17] <laga> not unless you un-break it
[01:17] <laga> bah. i'm bored and there are no nice blueprints for me to work on
[01:18] <tgm4883_laptop> :(
[01:19] <Daviey> laga: borded enough to help write release notes?
[01:19] <Daviey> bored*
[01:22] <laga> why not.
[01:23] <Daviey> laga, pm details
[01:35] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, hows it going?
[01:35] <tgm4883_laptop> bad
[01:35] <tgm4883_laptop> mythstream is broke
[01:35] <foxbuntu> why's that?
[01:35] <tgm4883_laptop> and i dont know whats wrong
[01:35] <foxbuntu> that sux
[01:36] <foxbuntu> well if it makes you feel any better my mythbox is prob gonna be busted in 1hr37m
[01:36] <tgm4883_laptop> :(, why is that?
[01:36] <foxbuntu> Im moving up to Gutsy on my Prod box
[01:37] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[01:37] <tgm4883_laptop> well you will have a busted mythstream then if you download it
[01:37] <tgm4883_laptop> although there is sort of a fix
[01:37] <foxbuntu> I don't use Mythstream
[01:37] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[01:38] <foxbuntu> I have music on my Linux box in my home office, but I never went to the effort of sharing it via samba and setting up the mounts in myth
[01:38] <tgm4883_laptop> thats not what mythstream does
[01:38] <foxbuntu> since the mp3 data setup for mythstream kinda sux (IMO)
[01:39] <tgm4883_laptop> mythstream does internet streams
[01:39] <foxbuntu> oh
[01:39] <foxbuntu> I was thinking of MythMusic
[01:39] <foxbuntu> sorry
[01:39] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[01:39] <foxbuntu> well none the less
[01:39] <tgm4883_laptop> or mythstreamtv
[01:39] <foxbuntu> I record too much damn tv as it is
[01:40] <foxbuntu> 28 shows in my record list
[01:40] <tgm4883_laptop> thats a fwe
[01:40] <tgm4883_laptop> although
[01:41] <laga> BTw
[01:41] <foxbuntu> with at least a 8 or 9 that have multiple records each day
[01:41] <laga> what's with that apple movies plugin
[01:41] <foxbuntu> ugh
[01:41] <laga> heh
[01:41] <foxbuntu> I forgot about it
[01:41] <foxbuntu> I need to finish packaging it
[01:41] <laga> no worries ;)
[01:41] <foxbuntu> I have the info from the author
[01:41] <tgm4883_laptop> ah, i only have 27
[01:42] <foxbuntu> muwhaa
[01:42] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, is not as 1337 at foxbuntu
[01:42] <foxbuntu> as*
[01:42] <tgm4883_laptop> it's true
[01:42] <tgm4883_laptop> thats why im assigning the mythstream bug to you ;)
[01:42] <foxbuntu> AHHH!
[01:42] <foxbuntu> no more bugs
[01:42] <foxbuntu> although...
[01:43] <foxbuntu> I think my wife is gonna be out of town this weekend
[01:43] <foxbuntu> so I might be able to get something done
[01:43] <tgm4883_laptop> party at foxbuntu's house
[01:43] <foxbuntu> :)
[01:43] <laga> yay, booze!
[01:45] <foxbuntu> ...I must be getting old..when I think of a weekend alone...I think extra sleep, time to play games, or perhaps work on Mythbuntu...not booze
[01:45] <foxbuntu> lol
[01:46] <laga> same here, though :/
[01:46] <foxbuntu> sux
[01:51] <temba> nabend alle zusammne
[01:52] <laga> bonjour monsieur
[01:53] <Daviey> "Links in the installer do not work, e.g the Schedules Direct website won't open" is that a bug on LP yet?
[01:53] <laga> cross-posting!
[01:53] <Daviey> *oops*
[01:54] <laga> ;)
[02:05] <Daviey> laga: slacker
[02:05] <Daviey> :)
[02:05] <Daviey> nn
[02:06] <laga> it's 2am and i've got something they call "a life" ;)
[02:08] <Daviey> $ sudo apt-get install life
[02:09] <Daviey> E: Couldn't find package life
[02:09] <laga> it's in my ppa
[02:09] <laga> silly
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #136493 in mythbuntu "Links in the installer do not work, e.g the Schedules Direct" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136493
[02:10] <Daviey>  $ sudo apt-get install life-laga
[02:11] <Daviey> E: package life-laga sucks
[02:11] <laga> i hate you
[02:11] <laga> ;)
[02:11] <Daviey> :(
[02:11] <laga> now finish that changelog
[02:11] <laga> or bad things will be seen on planet
[02:11] <laga> ;)
[02:13] <Daviey> heh
[02:13] <Daviey> GOTO $BED;
[02:16] <laga> sleep(3600*8)
[03:03] <manda__> hey guys...any here use a visio tv as a monitor?
[03:04] <cornell> After changing from zap2it to schedules direct, and doing a mythfill database, do I need to reaccomplish my schedule of recordings?
[03:04] <manda__> vizio tv...sorry
[03:04] <tgm4883_laptop> manda__ yes
[03:05] <manda__> this is williammanda
[03:05] <tgm4883_laptop> ah, i figured as much
[03:05] <manda__> a\:)
[03:05] <manda__> do you use dvi - hdmi?
[03:05] <tgm4883_laptop> no straight vga
[03:06] <manda__> what res?
[03:07] <tgm4883_laptop> tv reports 1366x768
[03:08] <tgm4883_laptop> my computer is set at
[03:08] <manda__> yes the tv will report what it thinks but it may not be what the computer is sending it
[03:08] <manda__> whats in your xorg.conf?
[03:08] <tgm4883_laptop>  "1280x768" "1024x768"
[03:09] <tgm4883_laptop> it's sending 1280x768
[03:09] <Daviey> tgm4883_laptop: do you have superm1's cell no?
[03:09] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[03:09] <tgm4883_laptop> did we email him?
[03:09] <manda__> can you post a copy of your xorg.conf?
[03:09] <tgm4883_laptop> yea sec
[03:10] <Daviey> tgm4883_laptop: no
[03:10] <tgm4883_laptop> shoot him an email
[03:11] <Daviey> done
[03:13] <Daviey> argarg
[03:13] <Daviey> ff just crashed
[03:13] <Daviey> do you still have the gobby page?!
[03:14] <Daviey> ah.. clipboard ftw
[03:14] <tgm4883_laptop> im still in there
[03:19] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[03:19] <tgm4883_laptop> apparently I have no idea how to get this file over ssh to my computer
[03:19] <manda__> xorg?
[03:19] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[03:24] <manda__> can you still get it?
[03:24] <cornell> Can anybody help with totem?
[03:25] <tgm4883_laptop> yea just got it, let me put it up
[03:25] <cornell> Or should I install xine or mplayer?
[03:25] <manda__> i prefer xine
[03:26] <tgm4883_laptop> manda__ http://linux.weilandhomes.com/node/8
[03:27] <manda__> no content on the page
[03:27] <tgm4883_laptop> :(
[03:29] <tgm4883_laptop> manda__ try again.  There should be an uploaded xorg.conf file
[03:30] <cornell> Got xine installed, manda__, start it up, right click open selected /media/cdrom0/video_ts, is that what I want to do to start it?
[03:30] <manda__> ok got it
[03:30] <cornell> nm
[03:30] <cornell> There's a dvd "radio button"
[03:32] <Daviey> tgm4883_laptop: "pastebinit" rocks
[03:32] <Daviey> $ pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:32] <manda__> yes...select the dvd button
[03:32] <Daviey> ---> returns a pastebin link :)
[03:34] <manda__> sorry cornell...i have xine setup with my remote.....haven't manually started with control panel
[03:34] <manda__> in a while
[03:46] <cornell> Hello again...
[03:46] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, kill me now
[03:47] <foxbuntu> damn upgrades suck ass
[03:48] <cornell> May I pm, manda__?
[03:57] <Daviey> Mythbuntu Alpha4 announced
[03:57] <Daviey> :)
[03:58] <Daviey> cornell: Hmm..
[03:58] <Daviey> where / when did you get it?
[03:58] <Daviey> (the iso)?
[03:59] <cornell> Actually, I just did the update/upgrade to myth 0.20.2 earlier this week.
[04:00] <cornell> The ubuntu  part is Gutsy
[04:00] <Daviey> ah
[04:00] <Daviey> http://mythbuntu.org/node/44
[04:01] <cornell> Got a DVD from the amusement park, of the little one singing... The relatives all want copies.  What's the best way to rip a DVD?
[04:07] <foxbuntu> cornell, you might try dvdshrink
[04:08] <foxbuntu> works well for me
[04:08] <cornell> Well... really want to avoid having to deal with wine.
[04:09] <cornell> Know anything about k9copy?
[04:09] <foxbuntu> nope
[04:09] <foxbuntu> is the disc encrpyted?
[04:10] <cornell> Don't think so.  Like I said, it's from one of those amusement park studios.  Plays well on xine.
[04:10] <foxbuntu> you might get nero for linux
[04:10] <foxbuntu> its pretty good with DVD fornats
[04:10] <foxbuntu> formats*
[04:11] <cornell> Too bad, foxbuntu, I was having some trouble with fornats
[04:11] <cornell> ;-)
[04:14] <tgm4883_laptop> is that good enough foxbuntu
[04:15] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, yes...thanks
[04:15] <foxbuntu> my machine is fubar right now
[04:15] <foxbuntu> its really neat
[04:15] <foxbuntu> this is why i don't do squat to this box ever
[04:16] <foxbuntu> and if my internet speed were any slower tonight I could write alll the code in the updates myself
[04:16] <cornell> fubar!  That's my favorite distro!
[04:16] <cornell> At least, after I install them, they're fubar ;-)
[04:16] <foxbuntu> cornell, I am the largest supporter of Fubar
[04:17] <cornell> Trivia question... know what fubar means?
[04:17] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, I think thats a great idea! Start a Mythbuntu Support branch called Fubar
[04:17] <cornell> (no googling ;-) )
[04:18] <foxbuntu> F'd up beyond all reckognition
[04:18] <foxbuntu> though my spelling sucks ass
[04:18] <foxbuntu> its Fubar as well
[04:18] <cornell> There you go... A lot of folks don't know that.  It's the next step after SNAFU, Situation Normal, All Fouled Up
[04:20] <foxbuntu> awesome glad to see my desktop install from back in the days previous to Mythbuntu still do wonderful things, like install openoffice on my MythTV machine
[04:20] <foxbuntu> gonna need it there
[04:24] <cornell> Not necessary, foxbuntu, if I can do it, anybody can.
[04:24] <foxbuntu> cornell, I think the damn thing wrote over my Lirc conf file
[04:25] <foxbuntu> which is funny becuase I helped superm1 write the app that does that
[04:25] <foxbuntu> but superm1 packged it
[04:25] <cornell> I just did an apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade.  Didn't do this straight away, but ended up deleting sources and creating SD.  I thinkthat was pretty much it.
[04:26] <foxbuntu> cornell, I have a pretty strange config for a machine however thus these upgrade always hurt
[04:26] <cornell> My PVR-350 remote doesn't work too well.  I'd found a lircrc.hauppauge before that was mediocre, now it's worse.
[04:27] <foxbuntu> I have the PVR-150 remote
[04:27] <cornell> irw reports every button I push, but mythtv either responds slowly or not at all (back/exit doesn't work for me at all :-( )
[04:27] <foxbuntu> its some strange ass MCEUSB2 remote
[04:27] <foxbuntu> thats the lircrc alright
[04:28] <foxbuntu> have you tried using the mythbuntu-lirc-generator?
[04:29] <cornell> Nope... After banging on my knoppmyth, then mythbuntu and finally getting something working... I took a break before starting on the remote.
[04:29] <foxbuntu> ah
[04:29] <foxbuntu> the remote should be very easy now
[04:29] <cornell> Is that it's name "mythbuntu-lirc-generator" ?
[04:29] <foxbuntu> I believe thats the package name
[04:29] <cornell> Is it included, or do I have to apt-get it?
[04:30] <foxbuntu> its part of the Mythbuntu build
[04:30] <foxbuntu> since Alpha 2 I think
[04:30] <foxbuntu> I can't remember when we dumped it in
[04:31] <cornell> Cool, can I run it in an ssh terminal while myth's playing back?
[04:31] <foxbuntu> should be able to
[04:31] <foxbuntu> you will prob have to restart Myth and Lirc to make the remote work again however
[04:31] <cornell> Is it interactive at all, or just pick the remote?
[04:32] <foxbuntu> just pick the remote
[04:32] <foxbuntu> it was made to be stupid proof
[04:32] <foxbuntu> since the remotes are one of the bigest pains of all
[04:33] <cornell> mythbuntu-lircrc-generator
[04:33] <foxbuntu> ah
[04:33] <foxbuntu> I forgot what it got called
[04:33] <foxbuntu> sad..too many things going on
[04:34] <foxbuntu> brb...gotta do a reset
[04:34] <cornell> mmm... not even pick a remote...  run command, get: You should now have a .lircrc file generated in /home/cornell/.lircrc  Also, a mythtv specific lircrc is now in ~/.mythtv/lircrc
[04:36] <cornell> Well... time to say night-night to one and all
[04:36] <cornell> Nice chatting foxbuntu
[04:37] <cornell> Night all
[04:37] <cornell> TTFN
[05:13] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, it feels good to finally be up to Gusty on the working Myth box
[05:13] <foxbuntu> Gutsy that is
[06:42] <Dvrmaster> houston we have a problem
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #136533 in mythbuntu "OSD fonts badly rendered when watching 16:9 TV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136533
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #130925 in mythbuntu "There is no proper logfile for Mythfrontend" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/130925
[10:33] <laga> re
[10:36] <laga> 08:00 -!- MYTHBUNTU [n=IceChat7@fl-71-55-28-52.dhcp.embarqhsd.net]  has quit ["damnit back to win again"] 
[10:37] <laga> o_o
[10:44] <laga> i fixed a indentation problem and changed "Frontend" to "frontend" once
[12:25] <laga> mythbuntu artwork makes my eyes hurt :/
[01:04] <laga> firefox in alpha4 just crashed on me. hum
[01:07] <Daviey> hoo hum
[01:10] <laga> my development VM is now broken. day is getting better and better ;)
[01:11] <temba> morning
[01:12] <laga> moin
[01:13] <temba> sagt mal ich hab nun suse 10 prof installed, lixxine, win32codec und den xvid codec installiert aber kaffeine spielt keine xvid avi ab, habe ich etwas vergessen ? sorry, bin schon alle sachen durch die ich in foren fand
[01:13] <laga> hm
[01:14] <laga> du bist hier irgendwo im falschen kanal, nicht?
[01:15] <temba> lol
[01:15] <temba> uups
[01:15] <temba> hehe
[02:29] <MythbuntuGuest29> propieraty drivers won't install in alpha 4
[04:36] <Ublender> Yo
[04:37] <Ublender> MythBuntu Alpha 4, is it just a live cd or is an actual installer?
[04:38] <laga> it can be used as a livecd and installed to disk
[04:44] <ublender_> Is there any source of information in terms of what cards/remotes it supports?
[04:45] <laga> it should support most, if not all remotes supported by lirc
[04:45] <laga> for tv cards: most of the stuff supported by linux i'd say
[04:46] <ublender_> thanks, looks like I'm gonna be using MythBuntu :)
[04:46] <ublender_> It just seems strange that the ISO is only like 400mb
[04:47] <laga> keep in mind that it's still "alpha", so things might break. but it's in a pretty good shape already IMHO
[04:47] <laga> ublender_: yeah, it doesn't come with openoffice and a big desktop environments :)
[05:30] <tgm4883> anyone know why the digg link for alpha 4 leads to the alpha 3 digg article?
[05:49] <Daviey> eeeek
[05:58] <tgm4883> heh
[05:59] <tgm4883> I think we're missing a feature for alpha 4
[05:59] <tgm4883> 20.2 installed
[06:07] <Daviey> tgm4883: i've transfered 34G!!
[06:07] <tgm4883> :(
[06:07] <tgm4883> I've transfered 134MB
[06:09] <Daviey> I need a mirror FAST
[06:09] <laga> bittorrent only it is then
[06:10] <Daviey> okay
[06:14] <tgm4883> so is this a bug or by design, i forget
 propieraty drivers won't install in alpha 4
[06:18] <tgm4883> Is this needed?  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+spec/vnc-applet-mythweb
[06:19] <laga> no
[06:19] <laga> but superm1 thought it was a good idea
[06:19] <laga> when i proposed it late at night ;)
[06:20] <tgm4883> can't you control the control centre from the remote?
[06:20] <laga> no
[06:20] <tgm4883> oh
[06:21] <tgm4883> i thought you could.  Then it is needed
[06:29] <Daviey> tgm4883: Do you have a link i can wget Mythbuntu iso's from>
[06:29] <Daviey> ?
[06:29] <tgm4883> uh
[06:29] <Daviey> I've had to suspend http and torrent downloads
[06:30] <Daviey> and want to put it on my dreamhost box
[06:30] <tgm4883> oh
[06:30] <tgm4883> i suppose I could upload them to my server
[06:31] <Daviey> currently there is no direct download link; but torrent is doing nicely
[06:32] <tgm4883> I don't know what kind of speeds you will get though and it probably violates my TOS
[06:33] <Daviey> oh
[06:33] <Daviey> Don't do it
[06:33] <tgm4883> I could stick it on my webspace
[06:33] <Daviey> I'm gonna request hosting from canonical methinks
[06:33] <tgm4883> but I would have to delete it from there right after you d/l it
[06:33] <tgm4883> that would make the most sense
[06:36] <tgm4883> Is dreamhost a good host?
[06:54] <Daviey> tgm4883: not too bad
[06:55] <Daviey> slightly oversold - but i think they are good
[06:55] <Daviey> ssh access
[06:55] <Daviey> etc
[06:55] <Daviey> tgm4883: they were doing an offer for $12 for they year, inc .com domain
[06:56] <Daviey> If you do use them, use the code MAX97 to save $97
[06:56] <Daviey> tgm4883: but a VPS will always be better.. go for vpsvillage.com :)
[06:57] <Daviey> root access on a ubuntu machine :)
[07:03] <tgm4883_laptop> hows it compare to http://icdsoft.com/hosting.php ?
[07:04] <Daviey> tgm4883: well, a VPS gives you a whole virtual machine
[07:04] <Daviey> not just sharing, as with normal hosting
[07:04] <Daviey> so it's like having your own complete machine, to do as you please
[07:05] <Daviey> 20 GB/Month !! bit tight!
[07:05] <Daviey> Dreamhost is much better than that
[07:05] <Daviey> *much*
[07:05] <tgm4883_laptop> $10 a month plan
[07:05] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[07:05] <tgm4883_laptop> I've been looking around for a new host for my works website
[07:06] <tgm4883_laptop> where is the dreamhost server location?
[07:06] <Daviey> US
[07:07] <tgm4883_laptop> k
[07:07] <tgm4883_laptop> our current server is in boston
[07:07] <tgm4883_laptop> which is kinda far from use
[07:07] <tgm4883_laptop> us
[07:07] <Daviey> but, i would strongly recommend a VPS from vpsvillage.com
[07:08] <Daviey> Dreamhost is based in California
[07:09] <Daviey> and vpsvillage is in Pennsylvania
[07:09] <tgm4883_laptop> I'm looking at VPS, and I see their plans, but I really don't know what kind of usage that transfers into
[07:10] <Daviey> do you want to test my dreamhost account?
[07:11] <tgm4883_laptop> Can I do that later? have a few errands to run, back in a bit
[07:11] <Daviey> yeah.. i need to change the passwords and clear some stuff off it first
[07:11] <Daviey> I no longer really use it
[08:00] <Thesandbag> does anyby know what mythbuntu sets the superuser mysql account password to
[08:09] <tgm4883_laptop> Thesandbag, I think it tells you during install
[08:10] <tgm4883_laptop> or maybe it's no password, I don't remember off hand
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #131700 in mythbuntu "Provide hosting for mythbuntu.org" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131700
[08:52] <MythbuntuGuest58> how do I control volume in mythbuntu? ingthe volume keys on my keyboard don't do any
[08:53] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest58, the volume controls in mythtv control the master volume
[08:53] <MythbuntuGuest58> is there any way to control the volume while watching video?
[08:53] <tgm4883> and if you give me a sec, i'll look up the keys to control that
[08:54] <MythbuntuGuest58> sure. thanks.
[09:04] <tgm4883> Looks like Volume down is [ , { , or F11 and volume up is ]  , } , or F12
[09:08] <MythbuntuGuest58> fyi, those don't do anything in mplayer, it looks like 0 and 9 do it.. I located the input.conf in /etc/mplayer .. nevermind.. thanks anyways!
[11:45] <NoobSauce> I'm trying to install mythbuntu, but it fails during install. It looks like it's a problem with 7.10 since feisty installs fine. So the question is, is there a 7.04 version for mythbuntu, or some way to upgrade a 7.04 install to mythbuntu? For example, I know kubuntu has a package for ubuntu. Is there a similar thing for mythbuntu? Any proposals are welcome!
[11:45] <laga> NoobSauce: where does it fail? are you using alpha 4?
[11:45] <NoobSauce> based on what I've found, none of that is possible, but hopefully you know different ways around the problem?
[11:46] <NoobSauce> it fails right after the 'load linux kernel' part during the install
[11:46] <NoobSauce> basically it fails at step 1. It says something about PCI: cannot allocate....
[11:46] <NoobSauce> it seems to only happen for 7.10, edgy, and dapper - but not feisty
[11:47] <laga> ah
[11:47] <laga> i bet there are various workarounds
[11:47] <laga> you could try booting with pci=routeirq or something
[11:47] <NoobSauce> I know that I could manually install everything from ubuntu, but I was wondering if there as some kind of metapackage or something that has a nice walkthrough install...
[11:48] <NoobSauce> what's PCI=routeirq?
[11:48] <laga> a boot option
[11:48] <laga> seriously.
[11:48] <NoobSauce> what does it do?
[11:48] <NoobSauce> well, I guess that doesn't matter. I'll give it a shot
[11:48] <laga> you should report your problem as a bug. otherwise, it's possible you won't be able to use any subsequent ubuntu releases
[11:48] <NoobSauce> hold on
[11:50] <NoobSauce> btw, this has already been reported as a bug numerous times - it's just that nobody seems to have a solution...
[11:50] <NoobSauce> the boot option doesn't work...
[11:50] <NoobSauce> :(
[11:51] <laga> that sucks then :/
[11:51] <NoobSauce> so no metapackages or installers that you can download?
[11:51] <laga> ah well. so, you want to install mythtv on feisty?
[11:51] <NoobSauce> yeah
[11:52] <laga> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[11:52] <laga> ^ see this link
[11:52] <NoobSauce> well, I can do it manually if need be... was just hoping to try out mythbuntu since I heard so much good stuff about it
[11:52] <NoobSauce> :)
[11:52] <laga> oh, that's nice :)
[11:52] <laga> heh
[11:52] <laga> no worries, mythtv on feisty is almost as easy as mythbuntu
[11:53] <laga> my laptop had some weird problems in feisty as well. it would just reboot during boot-up
[11:53] <NoobSauce> well, I'm out then... thanks for the time :)
[11:53] <laga> have fun
[12:17] <Daviey> laga: Failing to boot like that, *could* be a bad burn/download ?
[12:22] <laga> Daviey: looks like it happens on three ubuntu versions
[12:34] <Daviey> oh :(
[12:35] <Daviey> I suspect it would be pretty easy for us to consider an alternate..
[12:36] <laga> alternate what? iso?
[12:38] <laga> bah
[12:38] <laga> interlacing issues. :/