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starvinmarvinI'm trying to copy files from /home/user/ to another mounted hard drive. I've tried many folders at once and only one folder. Each time, all of the windows just close about 1/3 the way through the copy. Any suggestions?01:10
starvinmarvinWhy would the file manager's just close? Am I missing something?01:16
cheeseboyTheSheep you around ?01:16
starvinmarvinHe's busy, someone is trying to take a nap.01:17
cheeseboystarvinmarvin you know python?01:18
starvinmarvincan't say that I do...well I could, but it would be a lie.01:18
hellekinstarvinmarvin: are you using drag'n'drop? Then try cp -r /home/user/ /path/to/your/target/ from the terminal instead01:18
starvinmarvindo I have to use the command line? My terminal isn't working, so I'd have to log out.01:19
starvinmarvinShouldn't things just work?01:19
hellekinterminal not working? how that :] 01:19
TheSheepstarvinmarvin: no, you don't have to, but using the commandline you have a chance to see the error messages :)01:20
hellekinmy printer driver just froze the kernel... Huh.01:20
starvinmarvinwell it wasn't working the first time cause it would crash xfce (sp?) I read about the bug and how to fix it with an update.01:20
starvinmarvinnow..instead of crasing xfce it just opens a terminal window and sits there, open. No cursor or nothing. I can move the window around, but i can't type anything in it01:20
starvinmarvinUnfortunately I don't know how to fix that one.01:21
starvinmarvinAll the while trying to fix my shares i'm running into 19 other issues. I'm pooped.01:21
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TheSheepstarvinmarvin: they should definitely be working01:21
starvinmarvinthis is true01:22
starvinmarvinshould being the operative01:22
TheSheepstarvinmarvin: you can use xterm instead01:22
TheSheepstarvinmarvin: press alt+f2 and type 'xterm'01:22
starvinmarvinNICE01:23
cheeseboyhey TheSheep how woyuld i log what happens with the beroken python script to file?01:23
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starvinmarvinthat's what i'm talking about when i talk about opensource01:23
cheeseboywould broken*01:23
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TheSheepcheeseboy: what do you mean?01:24
TheSheepcheeseboy: you get the errors printed01:24
s-x-upress alt+f1 to learn about alt+f201:24
TheSheepcheeseboy: you can redirect them to file01:24
cheeseboyTheSheep yes but my on my xbox it only shows for 1/4 a second01:25
TheSheepcheeseboy: python myscript.py 2> errors.txt01:25
TheSheepcheeseboy: you can scroll with shift+pgup01:25
cheeseboyTheSheep no i mean add something into the python script so it logs it01:25
cheeseboybecause im on xbmc not linux01:26
TheSheepcheeseboy: http://www.python.org/doc/lib/module-trace.html01:26
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cheeseboyTheSheep i already set that up but it only shows it on screen for like 1/4 a second01:27
TheSheepcheeseboy: redirect sys.stderr to file01:28
cheeseboyhow ?01:29
TheSheepcheeseboy: http://www.diveintopython.org/scripts_and_streams/stdin_stdout_stderr.html01:31
starvinmarvinTheSheep: "File size limit exceeded (core dumped)" I tried to copy about 7.7 gigs (movie) to a 250 gig empty hard drive...I've saved things to the hard drive before, so I know it's not an issue of format.01:31
TheSheepstarvinmarvin: with a FAT partition?01:32
starvinmarvinfat01:32
TheSheepstarvinmarvin: impossible, those old windows partitions have a hard limit of about 4GB01:32
starvinmarvinshit01:32
TheSheepstarvinmarvin: there can't be a file larger than that on a fat partition01:32
TheSheep!language | starvinmarvin01:32
ubotustarvinmarvin: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:32
TheSheepstarvinmarvin: although I can feel your pain :)01:33
starvinmarvinSorry about that. I'm used to those sleezy channels.01:33
TheSheepcheeseboy: the second listing01:33
starvinmarvincheck that...by fat i meant fat3201:33
TheSheepstarvinmarvin: yes01:34
starvinmarvinGParted is showing 232.88 gig available01:34
TheSheepstarvinmarvin: that's a limit on the size of a single file01:34
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starvinmarvinand/or the limit of a tolal amount of file sizes, right?01:35
TheSheepstarvinmarvin: yes, but that is pretty high, can't recall exactly how many01:35
starvinmarvinEither way, that's moot. I'm trying to move a 7 gig file onto it and it's telling me the file sizse limit has exceeded01:36
starvinmarvinwhat gives?01:36
TheSheepstarvinmarvin: agreed that thunar should handle it much more smoothly01:36
TheSheep!bugs | starvinmarvin01:36
ubotustarvinmarvin: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots01:36
TheSheepstarvinmarvin: show some message or something01:36
starvinmarvinno prob. I feel like i'm contributing. but what's thunar?01:37
TheSheepstarvinmarvin: the file manager in xubuntu01:37
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nomadGreetings,01:40
retardoey... I have a problem with a clean install of xubuntu.. a problem with the login-input text.. its very small.. Ive seen it in ubuntu before.. But i cant remember how I got it bigger..01:40
TheSheepretardo: probably setting dpi in your xorg.conf01:41
nomadi've been browsing on the doc on ubuntu.com ( and also google) and i can't seem to get some hint toward this problem : under windows the laptop ( samsung q45 ) got his speaker sound shut when i plug in headphone, under linux, .. got both sound output at the same time , i can cut the headphone sound output trough the switch within the xfce plugins but not the speaker ones,01:44
nomadsomeone had or is facing the same thing?01:44
nomadxfce audio plugins*01:44
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TheSheepnomad: you can try alsamixer from a terminal and try all the controls...01:47
nomadtried it already something weird is i do not have the column for the headphone, but it is showed as active01:48
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plugshow do add a line of code to run at startup?01:50
TheSheepplugs: /etc/init.d/rc.local01:52
TheSheepplugs: err, sory, /etc/rc.local01:53
retardothesheep.. yes... i think youre right.. i think I can remember something..01:56
retardobut where in the file ?01:57
plugsokay I'll try that01:57
nomadretardo, /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:57
nomaddo locate (file) it does help^^:)01:58
TheSheepnomad: under the screen section, probably, type 'man xorg.conf' for documenation01:58
nomad?01:58
retardoyup nomade.. but where IN the file :)02:00
nomadneed coffee i'd think, sorry retardo to have missread that :/02:02
plugsthesheep, I did what you said02:04
plugsI added my line to rc.local02:05
plugsI'm trying to run synergy client at startup02:05
plugsI restarted and nothing happened, though02:05
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plugsI have the exact same line in a script file I can doubleclick and get it to work that way, but I don't want to have to doubleclick something to start synergy =\02:05
TheSheepplugs: that file is executed as a root before you log in02:06
TheSheepplugs: what's synergy?02:06
plugssynergy lets you use another computer's mouse and keybaord02:06
TheSheepplugs: does it require gui?02:07
plugsno02:07
TheSheepplugs: maybe you should start it on log in, not at boot?02:07
plugsyeah, that's what I'm trying to do actually =\02:07
plugsI've been googling 'xubuntu run at login' and stuff02:07
plugsoh I guess I said startup earlier02:08
TheSheepplugs: try settings->autostarted applications02:08
nomadman synergys it does explainn hot to configure synergy to start automatically02:08
plugsI've tried that already, actually02:09
plugsit didn't seem to work02:09
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plugsit worked with a different program I added to it, but not synergy02:09
plugsthesheep, I'll try autostarted applications again02:10
plugsthesheep, apparently it worked.02:13
plugsautostarted applications was the first thing I tried, I swear.02:13
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mike6546how do i use vnc or remote desktop on xubuntu?02:23
TheSheepmike6546: same as on any other distribution02:24
TheSheep!vlc | mike654602:24
ubotumike6546: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs02:24
TheSheepargh02:24
TheSheepwrong, sorry02:24
TheSheep!vnc | mike654602:24
ubotumike6546: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX02:24
TheSheep!rdesktop02:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rdesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:25
mike6546...02:26
mike6546the link is broken02:26
TheSheepmike6546: works for me02:27
mike6546the second one?02:27
mike6546bot.ubuntulinx?02:27
TheSheepmike6546: nah, that one is an error message02:27
TheSheepmike6546: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleRemoteDesktop02:29
retardowhats the best solution for a vnc server on xubuntu ? with a working display for the remote viewer...02:34
mike6546hmmm i can't open firefox : (02:36
retardorestart the gui thingy02:36
mike6546what init level?02:36
mike6546which one kills xfce and which one brings it back?02:36
mike6546i can't open a terminal or the quit02:38
mike6546either02:38
mike6546how do i get out of XFCE?02:38
mike6546anyone...02:38
retardowas it something about ctrl+alt+backspace to restart it ?02:39
retardoor am i totally wrong02:39
retardobtw.. i just found x11vnc.. cool... now I can connect visually to my xubuntu machine02:40
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mike6546thanks who ever said that02:43
mike6546it worked02:43
retardogreat.. :)02:43
retardoI helped someone!! :O02:44
retardohehe02:44
retardofirst time in here..02:44
mike6546thanks02:44
retardonp mate.. first time with xubuntu ?02:44
retardoor linux in general..02:45
mike6546no02:45
mike6546second02:45
mike6546i installed it in late 2005 and used for a little bit02:45
mike6546first ubuntu then xubuntu02:45
mike6546but only for a couple months each02:46
retardook.. ive just returned from kateos.. to xubuntu..02:46
mike6546i just found out that WoW works on wine02:46
retardo:O but fast ?02:46
mike6546idk02:46
mike6546the reason why i left ubuntu last time was because i couldn't get 3d accel working02:47
mike6546stupid ati02:47
mike6546hopefully support has gotten better02:47
retardowhat about trying http://www.transgaming.com/ ?02:48
mike6546idk02:48
mike6546haven't gotten that far yet02:49
retardokk02:49
mike6546i am working on getting vnc working now02:49
retardo:D02:49
retardosame here for 5 minutes ago02:49
mike6546i have to go to my cousins because my parents are driving my brother to dc02:49
mike6546so i want to work on it from there02:49
retardocool02:49
retardoso how is it going with the vnc viewer ? is it working ?02:50
retardobrb02:50
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mike6546nope02:50
mike6546it did it again...this is lame02:57
mike6546i'm about ready to install gnome02:57
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HelloMeow6546=3*2*190103:04
retardowhy not just install winxp ^^ and a easy remote program... maybe you have a problem with some blocked / unopened ports03:18
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Balaams_MiracleI've a question about hardware. I am going to need a new harddisk to replace my dying PATA harddisk which is currently hda1, if i were to replace it with a SATA drive, will the designation change to sda1? If so, how much problems could i expect if i copied the contents of my current drive to the new one using the dd command?04:29
retardowhich one should i use if I want to connect to my xubuntu by SSH ?04:43
retardowhich program04:43
retardoin xubuntu04:43
retardonot from the pc that connects04:43
retardoanyone?04:53
Balaams_MiracleSorry, i've never used it04:57
Balaams_MiracleHowever, i would imagine that on the connecting PC, you use SSH, on the PC that you connect to, i believe you should have openssl server (or something like that)04:58
retardoshouldnt it be openssh server ?05:00
retardohttp://www.debianadmin.com/administer-your-ubuntu-server-remotely.html05:02
Pumpernickel!info openssh-server05:03
ubotuopenssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 230 kB, installed size 596 kB05:03
PumpernickelBalaams_Miracle: If you're on Feisty, they'd both be named using the /dev/sd* naming convention because of the libata change.05:03
PumpernickelAlso, dd is really really not supposed to be used as an archival tool, that way.05:04
retardowell.. that link i gave is teh thing.. its working :)05:05
Balaams_MiraclePumpernickel: I've upgraded from Dapper => Edgy => Feisty. And i do my archiving using a backup tool. However, i was told that dd will duplicate a harddisk to another, so that's how i was planning on using it.05:06
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Balaams_MiracleAlso, this is what i was told in another room: "provided you're on Feisty, it won't matter, it uses UUIDs."05:07
Balaams_MiracleSo now i have two different stories...05:08
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cheeseboyhi05:10
Balaams_MiraclePumpernickel: But anyway, if dd is not the tool to be used when trying to make an exact duplicate of one HDD to another, which one should i use then?05:11
Balaams_MiraclePumpernickel: please do not answer yet, i'll be right back, my internet connection is being all weird and i've got to reboot.05:13
retardoIf anyone have 2 seconds to spare then test this newly installed lampp server @ http://noa.kicks-ass.org and tell me about the speed..05:15
Ghostvirusretardo: loaded fast for me05:15
retardolovely.. :) thanks for testing05:16
Ghostvirusretardo: it gave me a xampp page05:17
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retardoyup05:17
Ghostvirusjust making sure i'm *supposed* to be seeing that ;)05:18
Balaams_MiracleBack!05:18
retardothere isnt any secrets so its ok..05:19
retardomaybe some small info05:19
retardobut I wont be using this server / pc for long.. its just learning :)05:19
retardofor*05:19
Ghostvirusah05:20
retardodaaamn.. the clock.. 05:20 in the morning.. i better get to sleep :D05:20
retardogood night all05:21
Ghostvirusbye05:21
Balaams_MiraclePumpernickel: you still here?05:22
Balaams_MiracleGhostvirus: parhaps you can help with my last question?05:23
GhostvirusBalaams_Miracle: i can try05:23
GhostvirusBalaams_Miracle: what's the problem?05:25
Balaams_MiracleI've been told that there is a command that will clone a harddisk to another. I was also told that dd would do that, but according to Pumpernickel, that's not correct. But what should i use instead then?05:26
Ghostvirushm, that's a little beyond me05:27
Ghostvirusi'm guessing no one on the forums knew?05:27
Balaams_MiracleDidn't try the forums yet. I was here when the question popped up in my head :-)05:28
Ghostvirushuh, i ran a google search and the first result i got recommends dd...05:29
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Balaams_MiracleHrm...05:30
Balaams_MiracleSo dd would still be the way to go i guess.05:30
Ghostvirusi have no idea really. i've never cloned an HD before. other tutorials i've seen use rsync and stuff.05:31
Ghostvirusthis was the first result though: http://www.netadmintools.com/art165.html05:32
Balaams_MiracleRsync? Would that clone an entire system? As in a bootable system?05:32
Balaams_MiracleI'll go see that URL now05:33
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Ghostvirusno idea. i've never done anything involving rsync or cloning hard drives or anything of that sort05:33
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Balaams_MiracleAh well, thanks for the effort! I'm adding that page to my bookmarks and will use a variation of "dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc &" when it's time to clone the drive.05:35
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Ghostvirushope it works out for you05:36
Balaams_MiracleGhostvirus: do you use a SATA drive?05:36
Ghostvirusi'm on an old laptop right now, no idea what's in the thing05:40
Balaams_MiracleI it's old, then it prolly won't be using a SATA interface :-)05:42
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thomas_bayesHow to scan for wlan / wap ?09:41
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thomas_bayeshow to associate a wireless acces point10:07
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hyper_chthomas_bayes: put the ESSID in the config10:41
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thykowhat do i use to browse a windows LAN?12:43
thyko!LAN12:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:43
kanpachihello, when i try to run synaptic i get an error saying "failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as a user root, unable to copy the user's Xauthoraztion file", can anyone help please?12:44
totalwormfacethyko: samba12:44
totalwormfacethyko: and then you can browse by typing 'smb://'12:44
totalwormface:D12:45
thyko! totalwormface thanks12:45
kanpachican anyone help please?12:50
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kanpachii CAN run synaptic when i try via console, so why do i keep getting this error while using the menu? :(12:50
totalwormfacekanpachi: ehm12:50
totalwormfacekanpachi: when you run through the terminal, do you 'gksu synaptic' or use just 'synaptic'?12:51
kanpachi?12:51
thykototalwormface: where? on thunar?12:51
kanpachijust synaptic12:51
kanpachiwhile using gksu synaptic, i get this error12:51
kanpachi"Error copying '/home/kanpachi/.Xauthority' to '/tmp/libgksu-gGOxCl': No such file or directory"12:52
totalwormfacethyko: oh, oh yes this is '#xubuntu' bleh, ehm it's a bit hard to configure thunar to browse a windows network for as far as i know12:52
totalwormfacethyko: let me read a bit12:52
totalwormfacethyko: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30413112:53
totalwormfacethyko: i don't know how difficult the howto is, but you could try :] 12:53
thykototalwormface: thanks again12:54
totalwormfacethyko: otherwise there are some smb browsers which should do the same trick, but when you prefer thunar first try that howto :] 12:54
totalwormfacethyko: if it won't work you could try to run just 'fusesmb' or something like 'xsmbrowser', try to do a 'apt-cache search smb browser' to find some more smb browsers :p12:55
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thykototalwormface: xsmbrowser looks real nice ...01:00
totalwormface:D01:00
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hellekinanyone familiar with network printing? When I run 'lpinfo -v' it reads network ipp without any address. How can I configure that?03:17
hellekincupsd is configured for remote browsing03:18
hellekinbut all I get is "Network host '192.168.1.74' is busy, down, or unreachable; will retry in 30 seconds..."03:18
hellekinand the http interface works03:19
hellekinis inetd necessary ? It doesn't seem to come with Xubuntu Gutsy03:19
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triptecanyone who know how to change the Volumes shown on the desktop??04:24
triptec??04:25
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Jester45change what about them04:27
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triptecwell I got 4 drives that are using fakeraid, but thunar or what it might be shows the induvidual drives04:28
triptecunable to mount them offcourse'04:28
Jester45use the mount command04:29
Jester45see if they are mountable at all04:29
Jester45thunar might be using the wrong flags04:30
triptecyeah, work like a sharm04:32
triptecbut I have to mount /dev/mapper/nvidia_xxxx1 and nvidia_xxxx504:33
Jester45gtg sorry04:33
triptecthe raid is partitioned in to 204:34
tripteck04:34
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fulhackHow do I enable 3d accelleration for my i810 graphics card?04:49
fulhack..in feisty04:49
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allen!themes04:51
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy04:51
allen!changethemes04:51
ubotuTo change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.04:51
allenanyone here04:57
allenhow to install themes with xubuntu :/04:57
warblerallen: tried synaptic and searched themes?05:01
allenok05:01
allen:>05:01
warblerallen: gnome-art.org05:01
allenxubuntu :-/05:01
allenok05:02
allen:(05:07
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MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!05:44
MilhousePunkRockI am trying to install Xubuntu Feisty on an ancient machine with the alternate CD... After testing the network, the keyboard is dead, same after the CD integrity check. After one pass of memtest, which took longer, the keyboard was still working...05:46
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MilhousePunkRockSo that is basically after probing for any hardware... Is there a safe mode, or something?06:11
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benben01hi all... I am using Xubuntu 7.04, I am wondering how to change the screen resolution. It seems that I am supposed to hit Application -> System -> Preferences -> Screen resolution but the "Preferences" sub-menu is not listed, why is that?06:48
benben01Ok I'm stupid. I found the solution.06:51
benben01byebye06:51
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Varreonhow do I modify the login screen on xubuntu?07:02
Varreonhow do I modify the login screen on xubuntu?07:04
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cheeseboywhy can't i chroot ?07:35
cheeseboyroot@cheeseboy:/# chroot /newarch07:35
cheeseboychroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory07:35
cheeseboyroot@cheeseboy:~$ locate bash07:36
cheeseboy/bin/bash07:36
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warblertry chroot /usr/bin/newarch07:42
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cheeseboychroot: cannot change root directory to /usr/bin/newarch: No such file or directory07:48
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hyper__chTheSheep: online=?08:03
cheeseboyanyone help w/ chroot plz ?08:04
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The-Kernelcheeseboy: shoot08:05
cheeseboy(01:35:33 PM) cheeseboy: root@cheeseboy:/# chroot /newarch08:05
cheeseboy(01:35:33 PM) cheeseboy: chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory08:05
cheeseboy(01:36:11 PM) cheeseboy: root@cheeseboy:~$ locate bash08:05
cheeseboy(01:36:11 PM) cheeseboy: /bin/bash08:05
The-Kernelcheeseboy: the command is IN bash08:06
cheeseboy?08:06
The-Kernelisn't*08:06
cheeseboythen hoe do i chroot08:07
cheeseboyhow*08:07
The-Kerneltry this08:07
The-Kerneltype in "bash" without the quotes, hit enter08:07
The-Kernelthen run your commands08:07
cheeseboyroot@cheeseboy:/# bash chroot /newarch08:09
cheeseboy/usr/sbin/chroot: /usr/sbin/chroot: cannot execute binary file08:09
The-Kernel!Ex-chat08:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ex-chat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:09
The-Kernel!info Ex-chat08:09
ubotuPackage ex-chat does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:09
cheeseboy!x-chat08:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about x-chat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:09
The-Kernelhrm08:09
Seveas!info xchat08:09
cheeseboy!xchat08:09
ubotuxchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 796 kB08:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xchat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:09
The-Kernelno08:09
The-Kernelfirst run bash, then run the other command08:10
cheeseboytried that too08:10
The-Kernelnot both on the same line08:10
The-Kerneloh08:10
The-Kernelman chroot08:10
cheeseboyive used chroot before sometthing is broke08:11
The-Kernelno duh!08:11
The-Kernelbut...yeah08:11
cheeseboyit says to do the command i was doing08:12
The-Kernelget out of root, and use sudo08:12
The-Kernelsudo chroot08:12
cheeseboygreg@cheeseboy:~$ sudo chroot /newarch08:13
cheeseboychroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory08:13
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The-Kernelcd into / and then "sudo chroot newarch"08:16
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warblerchroot needs a command or it defaults to bash - bash can't run newarch obviously - find what does run newarch08:20
hellekincheeseboy: looks like bash is missing from your chroot dir08:24
cheeseboyhellekin i got it the tut mislead me08:25
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warblercheeseboy: what was the fix/08:27
warbler*?08:27
cheeseboypacman.static -S bash pacman filesystem -r /newarch08:27
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warblerk08:28
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noob_hi all08:36
noob_if i start an app with alt+f2 where can i remove them? im on xubuntu08:36
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rocketsI just booted up the Xubuntu live cd and its prompting me for a username and password at the X login screen.10:41
rockets What gives?10:41
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rocketsAny ideas?10:46
hyper__chtry "root" without pwd10:50
rocketstried that.10:50
rocketsroot doesnt have no password10:51
rocketsits disabled entirely10:51
rocketsremember10:51
hyper__chubuntu-user10:51
rocketsok, im waiting for it to boot up again10:51
hyper__chrockets: it's the live-cd.. that's not the same as an installed system10:51
rocketsits not ubuntu-user10:51
rocketsthe user is just ubuntu10:51
rocketsand i tried that10:51
hyper__chthen use just ubuntu10:51
rocketstried it.10:52
hyper__chyou sure you boot from the cd?10:52
rocketsyes . . .10:52
rocketstheres no linux on the system10:52
rocketsits got Win ME installed10:52
rocketsim booting from the cd10:52
hyper__chthat is strange10:52
hyper__chdid you do a cd check for defects?10:53
rocketsnope10:53
rocketsill try that if this doesnt work10:53
The-Kernel?10:53
rocketswaiting for it to reboot10:53
rocketshmm it shouldnt be taking THIS long on 800 Mhz + 128 MB ram10:55
hyper__ch128mb isn't that much10:55
rocketsi know its not10:55
rocketsbut this is xubuntu10:55
hyper__chyou remember, it's loading a whole sysem into memory10:55
rocketsyes i know10:55
hyper__chxubuntu isn't lightweight either10:55
rocketsoh no? then whats it for?10:56
rocketsthats the whole point of xubuntu according to the site. . .10:56
hyper__chdsl or featherlinux are lightweight10:56
rocketsfeatherlinux and dsl are no good for this situation, non geeks are using it10:57
hyper__chone doesn't have to be a geek to use a fully installed and setup system10:58
rocketsim not setting up fluxbox for a non geek10:58
rocketsthats a horrible idea10:59
hyper__chthat's your imaginatino11:00
rocketsno its not11:00
rocketsits not easy to use enough11:00
hyper__chmost people don't do anything than writing some text, surfing the net and reading email11:00
rocketsyou can insist that it is11:00
rocketsbut its not.11:00
hyper__cheven my mom uses now dsl on her als computer11:00
rocketsgreat11:00
rocketshave fun with that11:00
hyper__chshe has no troubles with it11:01
rocketsok well you have fun with that. personally im not giving a non-geek dsl11:01
hyper__chthat's your decision11:01
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Ben_Cshello11:06
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hyper__chhiho Ben_Cs11:13
hyper__chBen_Cs: what's the issue today?11:13
Ben_Csnothing really11:14
Ben_Csjust wanted to greet you11:14
Ben_Cseverything works just fine11:14
hyper__chBen_Cs: for once ;)11:15
Ben_Csactually my questions were not on something not working, but concerning making extra things work. evil tweaks as one was extra, and doesn't work. so i say screw evil tweaks11:17
Ben_Cs:)11:17
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Ben_Cshyper_ch: still here?11:27
Ben_Csnever mind11:31
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worriedhello, i'm a newbie who wants to switch from windows 98 to xubuntu. i'm on a 180mhz processor, 30mb ram, 8gb hd11:42
Ben_Csworried: bad idea. your pc will work too slow11:55
The-Kernelworried: I don't think even Xubuntu will run on that, try DSL or Puppy linux11:55
Ben_Csworried: better try DSL or fluxbuntu11:55
Ben_Csi agree, DSL will be best 4 u11:55
Ben_Cscause fluxbuntu was a bit slow on P2 200mhz11:56
Ben_Cswhen tried it11:56
The-KernelFluxbuntu is still a bit....tweaky...as someone called it11:56
Ben_Csofficially xubuntu need 300mhz or higher am i right The-Kernael?11:56
The-Kernelits unusual11:56
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Ben_Cshey Jester4511:57
The-KernelBen_Cs: yes, however I've been able to get it to run on a 166 MHz Pentium Pro, its the ram that'll kill him11:57
The-KernelI had plenty of ram (126 mb) when I did that11:57
Ben_Csi had 256mb ram on P2 266mhz and xubuntu was still slow11:58
Ben_Cseven fluxbuntu was a bit lagging11:58
The-Kernelyeah it was slow...but it was completely usable11:59
Jester45command line would be nice on this systems11:59
The-KernelA good fileserver12:00
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ShaunwinHI12:16
biouserdoes anyone know the easiest way to log on to a wireless network using WPA?12:17
ShaunwinI'm a new user to Linux & XUbuntu just won't install12:17
ShaunwinCan Any one help?12:17
ShaunwinPlease12:17
Jester45someone will help12:17
ShaunwinTx12:18
Jester45but i dont think they will answer your question within a second of asking12:18
ShaunwinNew to this all12:18
Jester45give them a bit of time its all volunteers so they might be using their comps right now12:19
ShaunwinTx12:19
biouserI think I got the WPA question licked12:19
biouserwpa-supplicant... some guis12:20
biouserwill try soon12:20
Jester45i my self dont use wireless so im oif no help in the mean time google might beof some help12:20
ShaunwinBy the way I get error: Bios Age fails cutoff 199912:24
Shaunwin& something about ACPI12:24
Jester45do you have a computer thats from before 9912:25
ShaunwinYip12:25
ShaunwinThen get Segmentation fault after Loading please wait12:26
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ShaunwinBusy Box comes up & finaly initramfs12:26
ShaunwinAge of PC should not call all this surely12:27
Jester45it could12:28
Shaunwinok12:28
ShaunwinAny idea what segmentation fault is12:28
Jester45new additions to bios syandards maybe12:28
Jester45the program broke12:28
Shaunwinok12:29
ShaunwinGuess unless I update bios - no chance of loading it..12:29
Jester45well...12:30
ShaunwinFor a nother time..Very late my side - hope to chat again.Tx 4 the chat bye 4 now12:32
Jester45old bios cant be updated12:32
Shaunwintx 4 taht12:33
Jester45most old ones, but DSL has an option to use an alternative iso12:33
Jester45that has a diffrent boot up options to start on old hardware12:33
Jester45DSL= Damn Small Linux12:33
Shaunwintx12:34
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ShaunwinCan I then load the xubuntu on top of that?12:35
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Jester45you would have to install DSL and then chagne your list of sofware to xubuntu then update but im not sure if that wiill work12:35
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Shaunwintx12:39
ShaunwinWent to : http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/download.html12:39
Shaunwin& then mirror12:39
Shaunwinftp://ftp.oss.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/damnsmall/12:39
ShaunwinBut not sure what to choose to download12:40
ShaunwinDownloading dsl-3.4.1.iso12:49
ShaunwinGood night12:49
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rocketsIf I install ubuntu server, install linux-image-generic, and then install xubuntu-desktop, it will basically be a standard xubuntu install right?01:01
Jester45yes01:04

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