[01:10] <starvinmarvin> I'm trying to copy files from /home/user/ to another mounted hard drive. I've tried many folders at once and only one folder. Each time, all of the windows just close about 1/3 the way through the copy. Any suggestions?
[01:16] <starvinmarvin> Why would the file manager's just close? Am I missing something?
[01:16] <cheeseboy> TheSheep you around ?
[01:17] <starvinmarvin> He's busy, someone is trying to take a nap.
[01:18] <cheeseboy> starvinmarvin you know python?
[01:18] <starvinmarvin> can't say that I do...well I could, but it would be a lie.
[01:18] <hellekin> starvinmarvin: are you using drag'n'drop? Then try cp -r /home/user/ /path/to/your/target/ from the terminal instead
[01:19] <starvinmarvin> do I have to use the command line? My terminal isn't working, so I'd have to log out.
[01:19] <starvinmarvin> Shouldn't things just work?
[01:19] <hellekin> terminal not working? how that :] 
[01:20] <TheSheep> starvinmarvin: no, you don't have to, but using the commandline you have a chance to see the error messages :)
[01:20] <hellekin> my printer driver just froze the kernel... Huh.
[01:20] <starvinmarvin> well it wasn't working the first time cause it would crash xfce (sp?) I read about the bug and how to fix it with an update.
[01:20] <starvinmarvin> now..instead of crasing xfce it just opens a terminal window and sits there, open. No cursor or nothing. I can move the window around, but i can't type anything in it
[01:21] <starvinmarvin> Unfortunately I don't know how to fix that one.
[01:21] <starvinmarvin> All the while trying to fix my shares i'm running into 19 other issues. I'm pooped.
[01:21] <TheSheep> starvinmarvin: they should definitely be working
[01:22] <starvinmarvin> this is true
[01:22] <starvinmarvin> should being the operative
[01:22] <TheSheep> starvinmarvin: you can use xterm instead
[01:22] <TheSheep> starvinmarvin: press alt+f2 and type 'xterm'
[01:23] <starvinmarvin> NICE
[01:23] <cheeseboy> hey TheSheep how woyuld i log what happens with the beroken python script to file?
[01:23] <starvinmarvin> that's what i'm talking about when i talk about opensource
[01:23] <cheeseboy> would broken*
[01:24] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: what do you mean?
[01:24] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: you get the errors printed
[01:24] <s-x-u> press alt+f1 to learn about alt+f2
[01:24] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: you can redirect them to file
[01:25] <cheeseboy> TheSheep yes but my on my xbox it only shows for 1/4 a second
[01:25] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: python myscript.py 2> errors.txt
[01:25] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: you can scroll with shift+pgup
[01:25] <cheeseboy> TheSheep no i mean add something into the python script so it logs it
[01:26] <cheeseboy> because im on xbmc not linux
[01:26] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: http://www.python.org/doc/lib/module-trace.html
[01:27] <cheeseboy> TheSheep i already set that up but it only shows it on screen for like 1/4 a second
[01:28] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: redirect sys.stderr to file
[01:29] <cheeseboy> how ?
[01:31] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: http://www.diveintopython.org/scripts_and_streams/stdin_stdout_stderr.html
[01:31] <starvinmarvin> TheSheep: "File size limit exceeded (core dumped)" I tried to copy about 7.7 gigs (movie) to a 250 gig empty hard drive...I've saved things to the hard drive before, so I know it's not an issue of format.
[01:32] <TheSheep> starvinmarvin: with a FAT partition?
[01:32] <starvinmarvin> fat
[01:32] <TheSheep> starvinmarvin: impossible, those old windows partitions have a hard limit of about 4GB
[01:32] <starvinmarvin> shit
[01:32] <TheSheep> starvinmarvin: there can't be a file larger than that on a fat partition
[01:32] <TheSheep> !language | starvinmarvin
[01:32] <ubotu> starvinmarvin: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:33] <TheSheep> starvinmarvin: although I can feel your pain :)
[01:33] <starvinmarvin> Sorry about that. I'm used to those sleezy channels.
[01:33] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: the second listing
[01:33] <starvinmarvin> check that...by fat i meant fat32
[01:34] <TheSheep> starvinmarvin: yes
[01:34] <starvinmarvin> GParted is showing 232.88 gig available
[01:34] <TheSheep> starvinmarvin: that's a limit on the size of a single file
[01:35] <starvinmarvin> and/or the limit of a tolal amount of file sizes, right?
[01:35] <TheSheep> starvinmarvin: yes, but that is pretty high, can't recall exactly how many
[01:36] <starvinmarvin> Either way, that's moot. I'm trying to move a 7 gig file onto it and it's telling me the file sizse limit has exceeded
[01:36] <starvinmarvin> what gives?
[01:36] <TheSheep> starvinmarvin: agreed that thunar should handle it much more smoothly
[01:36] <TheSheep> !bugs | starvinmarvin
[01:36] <ubotu> starvinmarvin: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[01:36] <TheSheep> starvinmarvin: show some message or something
[01:37] <starvinmarvin> no prob. I feel like i'm contributing. but what's thunar?
[01:37] <TheSheep> starvinmarvin: the file manager in xubuntu
[01:40] <nomad> Greetings,
[01:40] <retardo> ey... I have a problem with a clean install of xubuntu.. a problem with the login-input text.. its very small.. Ive seen it in ubuntu before.. But i cant remember how I got it bigger..
[01:41] <TheSheep> retardo: probably setting dpi in your xorg.conf
[01:44] <nomad> i've been browsing on the doc on ubuntu.com ( and also google) and i can't seem to get some hint toward this problem : under windows the laptop ( samsung q45 ) got his speaker sound shut when i plug in headphone, under linux, .. got both sound output at the same time , i can cut the headphone sound output trough the switch within the xfce plugins but not the speaker ones,
[01:44] <nomad> someone had or is facing the same thing?
[01:44] <nomad> xfce audio plugins*
[01:47] <TheSheep> nomad: you can try alsamixer from a terminal and try all the controls...
[01:48] <nomad> tried it already something weird is i do not have the column for the headphone, but it is showed as active
[01:50] <plugs> how do add a line of code to run at startup?
[01:52] <TheSheep> plugs: /etc/init.d/rc.local
[01:53] <TheSheep> plugs: err, sory, /etc/rc.local
[01:56] <retardo> thesheep.. yes... i think youre right.. i think I can remember something..
[01:57] <retardo> but where in the file ?
[01:57] <plugs> okay I'll try that
[01:57] <nomad> retardo, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:58] <nomad> do locate (file) it does help^^:)
[01:58] <TheSheep> nomad: under the screen section, probably, type 'man xorg.conf' for documenation
[01:58] <nomad> ?
[02:00] <retardo> yup nomade.. but where IN the file :)
[02:02] <nomad> need coffee i'd think, sorry retardo to have missread that :/
[02:04] <plugs> thesheep, I did what you said
[02:05] <plugs> I added my line to rc.local
[02:05] <plugs> I'm trying to run synergy client at startup
[02:05] <plugs> I restarted and nothing happened, though
[02:05] <plugs> I have the exact same line in a script file I can doubleclick and get it to work that way, but I don't want to have to doubleclick something to start synergy =\
[02:06] <TheSheep> plugs: that file is executed as a root before you log in
[02:06] <TheSheep> plugs: what's synergy?
[02:06] <plugs> synergy lets you use another computer's mouse and keybaord
[02:07] <TheSheep> plugs: does it require gui?
[02:07] <plugs> no
[02:07] <TheSheep> plugs: maybe you should start it on log in, not at boot?
[02:07] <plugs> yeah, that's what I'm trying to do actually =\
[02:07] <plugs> I've been googling 'xubuntu run at login' and stuff
[02:08] <plugs> oh I guess I said startup earlier
[02:08] <TheSheep> plugs: try settings->autostarted applications
[02:08] <nomad> man synergys it does explainn hot to configure synergy to start automatically
[02:09] <plugs> I've tried that already, actually
[02:09] <plugs> it didn't seem to work
[02:09] <plugs> it worked with a different program I added to it, but not synergy
[02:10] <plugs> thesheep, I'll try autostarted applications again
[02:13] <plugs> thesheep, apparently it worked.
[02:13] <plugs> autostarted applications was the first thing I tried, I swear.
[02:23] <mike6546> how do i use vnc or remote desktop on xubuntu?
[02:24] <TheSheep> mike6546: same as on any other distribution
[02:24] <TheSheep> !vlc | mike6546
[02:24] <ubotu> mike6546: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[02:24] <TheSheep> argh
[02:24] <TheSheep> wrong, sorry
[02:24] <TheSheep> !vnc | mike6546
[02:24] <ubotu> mike6546: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[02:25] <TheSheep> !rdesktop
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <mike6546> ...
[02:26] <mike6546> the link is broken
[02:27] <TheSheep> mike6546: works for me
[02:27] <mike6546> the second one?
[02:27] <mike6546> bot.ubuntulinx?
[02:27] <TheSheep> mike6546: nah, that one is an error message
[02:29] <TheSheep> mike6546: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleRemoteDesktop
[02:34] <retardo> whats the best solution for a vnc server on xubuntu ? with a working display for the remote viewer...
[02:36] <mike6546> hmmm i can't open firefox : (
[02:36] <retardo> restart the gui thingy
[02:36] <mike6546> what init level?
[02:36] <mike6546> which one kills xfce and which one brings it back?
[02:38] <mike6546> i can't open a terminal or the quit
[02:38] <mike6546> either
[02:38] <mike6546> how do i get out of XFCE?
[02:38] <mike6546> anyone...
[02:39] <retardo> was it something about ctrl+alt+backspace to restart it ?
[02:39] <retardo> or am i totally wrong
[02:40] <retardo> btw.. i just found x11vnc.. cool... now I can connect visually to my xubuntu machine
[02:43] <mike6546> thanks who ever said that
[02:43] <mike6546> it worked
[02:43] <retardo> great.. :)
[02:44] <retardo> I helped someone!! :O
[02:44] <retardo> hehe
[02:44] <retardo> first time in here..
[02:44] <mike6546> thanks
[02:44] <retardo> np mate.. first time with xubuntu ?
[02:45] <retardo> or linux in general..
[02:45] <mike6546> no
[02:45] <mike6546> second
[02:45] <mike6546> i installed it in late 2005 and used for a little bit
[02:45] <mike6546> first ubuntu then xubuntu
[02:46] <mike6546> but only for a couple months each
[02:46] <retardo> ok.. ive just returned from kateos.. to xubuntu..
[02:46] <mike6546> i just found out that WoW works on wine
[02:46] <retardo> :O but fast ?
[02:46] <mike6546> idk
[02:47] <mike6546> the reason why i left ubuntu last time was because i couldn't get 3d accel working
[02:47] <mike6546> stupid ati
[02:47] <mike6546> hopefully support has gotten better
[02:48] <retardo> what about trying http://www.transgaming.com/ ?
[02:48] <mike6546> idk
[02:49] <mike6546> haven't gotten that far yet
[02:49] <retardo> kk
[02:49] <mike6546> i am working on getting vnc working now
[02:49] <retardo> :D
[02:49] <retardo> same here for 5 minutes ago
[02:49] <mike6546> i have to go to my cousins because my parents are driving my brother to dc
[02:49] <mike6546> so i want to work on it from there
[02:49] <retardo> cool
[02:50] <retardo> so how is it going with the vnc viewer ? is it working ?
[02:50] <retardo> brb
[02:50] <mike6546> nope
[02:57] <mike6546> it did it again...this is lame
[02:57] <mike6546> i'm about ready to install gnome
[03:04] <HelloMeow> 6546=3*2*1901
[03:18] <retardo> why not just install winxp ^^ and a easy remote program... maybe you have a problem with some blocked / unopened ports
[04:29] <Balaams_Miracle> I've a question about hardware. I am going to need a new harddisk to replace my dying PATA harddisk which is currently hda1, if i were to replace it with a SATA drive, will the designation change to sda1? If so, how much problems could i expect if i copied the contents of my current drive to the new one using the dd command?
[04:43] <retardo> which one should i use if I want to connect to my xubuntu by SSH ?
[04:43] <retardo> which program
[04:43] <retardo> in xubuntu
[04:43] <retardo> not from the pc that connects
[04:53] <retardo> anyone?
[04:57] <Balaams_Miracle> Sorry, i've never used it
[04:58] <Balaams_Miracle> However, i would imagine that on the connecting PC, you use SSH, on the PC that you connect to, i believe you should have openssl server (or something like that)
[05:00] <retardo> shouldnt it be openssh server ?
[05:02] <retardo> http://www.debianadmin.com/administer-your-ubuntu-server-remotely.html
[05:03] <Pumpernickel> !info openssh-server
[05:03] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 230 kB, installed size 596 kB
[05:03] <Pumpernickel> Balaams_Miracle: If you're on Feisty, they'd both be named using the /dev/sd* naming convention because of the libata change.
[05:04] <Pumpernickel> Also, dd is really really not supposed to be used as an archival tool, that way.
[05:05] <retardo> well.. that link i gave is teh thing.. its working :)
[05:06] <Balaams_Miracle> Pumpernickel: I've upgraded from Dapper => Edgy => Feisty. And i do my archiving using a backup tool. However, i was told that dd will duplicate a harddisk to another, so that's how i was planning on using it.
[05:07] <Balaams_Miracle> Also, this is what i was told in another room: "provided you're on Feisty, it won't matter, it uses UUIDs."
[05:08] <Balaams_Miracle> So now i have two different stories...
[05:10] <cheeseboy> hi
[05:11] <Balaams_Miracle> Pumpernickel: But anyway, if dd is not the tool to be used when trying to make an exact duplicate of one HDD to another, which one should i use then?
[05:13] <Balaams_Miracle> Pumpernickel: please do not answer yet, i'll be right back, my internet connection is being all weird and i've got to reboot.
[05:15] <retardo> If anyone have 2 seconds to spare then test this newly installed lampp server @ http://noa.kicks-ass.org and tell me about the speed..
[05:15] <Ghostvirus> retardo: loaded fast for me
[05:16] <retardo> lovely.. :) thanks for testing
[05:17] <Ghostvirus> retardo: it gave me a xampp page
[05:17] <retardo> yup
[05:18] <Ghostvirus> just making sure i'm *supposed* to be seeing that ;)
[05:18] <Balaams_Miracle> Back!
[05:19] <retardo> there isnt any secrets so its ok..
[05:19] <retardo> maybe some small info
[05:19] <retardo> but I wont be using this server / pc for long.. its just learning :)
[05:19] <retardo> for*
[05:20] <Ghostvirus> ah
[05:20] <retardo> daaamn.. the clock.. 05:20 in the morning.. i better get to sleep :D
[05:21] <retardo> good night all
[05:21] <Ghostvirus> bye
[05:22] <Balaams_Miracle> Pumpernickel: you still here?
[05:23] <Balaams_Miracle> Ghostvirus: parhaps you can help with my last question?
[05:23] <Ghostvirus> Balaams_Miracle: i can try
[05:25] <Ghostvirus> Balaams_Miracle: what's the problem?
[05:26] <Balaams_Miracle> I've been told that there is a command that will clone a harddisk to another. I was also told that dd would do that, but according to Pumpernickel, that's not correct. But what should i use instead then?
[05:27] <Ghostvirus> hm, that's a little beyond me
[05:27] <Ghostvirus> i'm guessing no one on the forums knew?
[05:28] <Balaams_Miracle> Didn't try the forums yet. I was here when the question popped up in my head :-)
[05:29] <Ghostvirus> huh, i ran a google search and the first result i got recommends dd...
[05:30] <Balaams_Miracle> Hrm...
[05:30] <Balaams_Miracle> So dd would still be the way to go i guess.
[05:31] <Ghostvirus> i have no idea really. i've never cloned an HD before. other tutorials i've seen use rsync and stuff.
[05:32] <Ghostvirus> this was the first result though: http://www.netadmintools.com/art165.html
[05:32] <Balaams_Miracle> Rsync? Would that clone an entire system? As in a bootable system?
[05:33] <Balaams_Miracle> I'll go see that URL now
[05:33] <Ghostvirus> no idea. i've never done anything involving rsync or cloning hard drives or anything of that sort
[05:35] <Balaams_Miracle> Ah well, thanks for the effort! I'm adding that page to my bookmarks and will use a variation of "dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc &" when it's time to clone the drive.
[05:36] <Ghostvirus> hope it works out for you
[05:36] <Balaams_Miracle> Ghostvirus: do you use a SATA drive?
[05:40] <Ghostvirus> i'm on an old laptop right now, no idea what's in the thing
[05:42] <Balaams_Miracle> I it's old, then it prolly won't be using a SATA interface :-)
[09:41] <thomas_bayes> How to scan for wlan / wap ?
[10:07] <thomas_bayes> how to associate a wireless acces point
[10:41] <hyper_ch> thomas_bayes: put the ESSID in the config
[12:43] <thyko> what do i use to browse a windows LAN?
[12:43] <thyko> !LAN
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <kanpachi> hello, when i try to run synaptic i get an error saying "failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as a user root, unable to copy the user's Xauthoraztion file", can anyone help please?
[12:44] <totalwormface> thyko: samba
[12:44] <totalwormface> thyko: and then you can browse by typing 'smb://'
[12:45] <totalwormface> :D
[12:45] <thyko> ! totalwormface thanks
[12:50] <kanpachi> can anyone help please?
[12:50] <kanpachi> i CAN run synaptic when i try via console, so why do i keep getting this error while using the menu? :(
[12:50] <totalwormface> kanpachi: ehm
[12:51] <totalwormface> kanpachi: when you run through the terminal, do you 'gksu synaptic' or use just 'synaptic'?
[12:51] <kanpachi> ?
[12:51] <thyko> totalwormface: where? on thunar?
[12:51] <kanpachi> just synaptic
[12:51] <kanpachi> while using gksu synaptic, i get this error
[12:52] <kanpachi> "Error copying '/home/kanpachi/.Xauthority' to '/tmp/libgksu-gGOxCl': No such file or directory"
[12:52] <totalwormface> thyko: oh, oh yes this is '#xubuntu' bleh, ehm it's a bit hard to configure thunar to browse a windows network for as far as i know
[12:52] <totalwormface> thyko: let me read a bit
[12:53] <totalwormface> thyko: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131
[12:53] <totalwormface> thyko: i don't know how difficult the howto is, but you could try :] 
[12:54] <thyko> totalwormface: thanks again
[12:54] <totalwormface> thyko: otherwise there are some smb browsers which should do the same trick, but when you prefer thunar first try that howto :] 
[12:55] <totalwormface> thyko: if it won't work you could try to run just 'fusesmb' or something like 'xsmbrowser', try to do a 'apt-cache search smb browser' to find some more smb browsers :p
[01:00] <thyko> totalwormface: xsmbrowser looks real nice ...
[01:00] <totalwormface> :D
[03:17] <hellekin> anyone familiar with network printing? When I run 'lpinfo -v' it reads network ipp without any address. How can I configure that?
[03:18] <hellekin> cupsd is configured for remote browsing
[03:18] <hellekin> but all I get is "Network host '192.168.1.74' is busy, down, or unreachable; will retry in 30 seconds..."
[03:19] <hellekin> and the http interface works
[03:19] <hellekin> is inetd necessary ? It doesn't seem to come with Xubuntu Gutsy
[04:24] <triptec> anyone who know how to change the Volumes shown on the desktop??
[04:25] <triptec> ??
[04:27] <Jester45> change what about them
[04:28] <triptec> well I got 4 drives that are using fakeraid, but thunar or what it might be shows the induvidual drives
[04:28] <triptec> unable to mount them offcourse'
[04:29] <Jester45> use the mount command
[04:29] <Jester45> see if they are mountable at all
[04:30] <Jester45> thunar might be using the wrong flags
[04:32] <triptec> yeah, work like a sharm
[04:33] <triptec> but I have to mount /dev/mapper/nvidia_xxxx1 and nvidia_xxxx5
[04:33] <Jester45> gtg sorry
[04:34] <triptec> the raid is partitioned in to 2
[04:34] <triptec> k
[04:49] <fulhack> How do I enable 3d accelleration for my i810 graphics card?
[04:49] <fulhack> ..in feisty
[04:51] <allen> !themes
[04:51] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[04:51] <allen> !changethemes
[04:51] <ubotu> To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[04:57] <allen> anyone here
[04:57] <allen> how to install themes with xubuntu :/
[05:01] <warbler> allen: tried synaptic and searched themes?
[05:01] <allen> ok
[05:01] <allen> :>
[05:01] <warbler> allen: gnome-art.org
[05:01] <allen> xubuntu :-/
[05:02] <allen> ok
[05:07] <allen> :(
[05:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[05:46] <MilhousePunkRock> I am trying to install Xubuntu Feisty on an ancient machine with the alternate CD... After testing the network, the keyboard is dead, same after the CD integrity check. After one pass of memtest, which took longer, the keyboard was still working...
[06:11] <MilhousePunkRock> So that is basically after probing for any hardware... Is there a safe mode, or something?
[06:48] <benben01> hi all... I am using Xubuntu 7.04, I am wondering how to change the screen resolution. It seems that I am supposed to hit Application -> System -> Preferences -> Screen resolution but the "Preferences" sub-menu is not listed, why is that?
[06:51] <benben01> Ok I'm stupid. I found the solution.
[06:51] <benben01> byebye
[07:02] <Varreon> how do I modify the login screen on xubuntu?
[07:04] <Varreon> how do I modify the login screen on xubuntu?
[07:35] <cheeseboy> why can't i chroot ?
[07:35] <cheeseboy> root@cheeseboy:/# chroot /newarch
[07:35] <cheeseboy> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[07:36] <cheeseboy> root@cheeseboy:~$ locate bash
[07:36] <cheeseboy> /bin/bash
[07:42] <warbler> try chroot /usr/bin/newarch
[07:48] <cheeseboy> chroot: cannot change root directory to /usr/bin/newarch: No such file or directory
[08:03] <hyper__ch> TheSheep: online=?
[08:04] <cheeseboy> anyone help w/ chroot plz ?
[08:05] <The-Kernel> cheeseboy: shoot
[08:05] <cheeseboy> (01:35:33 PM) cheeseboy: root@cheeseboy:/# chroot /newarch
[08:05] <cheeseboy> (01:35:33 PM) cheeseboy: chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[08:05] <cheeseboy> (01:36:11 PM) cheeseboy: root@cheeseboy:~$ locate bash
[08:05] <cheeseboy> (01:36:11 PM) cheeseboy: /bin/bash
[08:06] <The-Kernel> cheeseboy: the command is IN bash
[08:06] <cheeseboy> ?
[08:06] <The-Kernel> isn't*
[08:07] <cheeseboy> then hoe do i chroot
[08:07] <cheeseboy> how*
[08:07] <The-Kernel> try this
[08:07] <The-Kernel> type in "bash" without the quotes, hit enter
[08:07] <The-Kernel> then run your commands
[08:09] <cheeseboy> root@cheeseboy:/# bash chroot /newarch
[08:09] <cheeseboy> /usr/sbin/chroot: /usr/sbin/chroot: cannot execute binary file
[08:09] <The-Kernel> !Ex-chat
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[08:09] <The-Kernel> !info Ex-chat
[08:09] <ubotu> Package ex-chat does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:09] <cheeseboy> !x-chat
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[08:09] <The-Kernel> hrm
[08:09] <Seveas> !info xchat
[08:09] <cheeseboy> !xchat
[08:09] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 796 kB
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[08:09] <The-Kernel> no
[08:10] <The-Kernel> first run bash, then run the other command
[08:10] <cheeseboy> tried that too
[08:10] <The-Kernel> not both on the same line
[08:10] <The-Kernel> oh
[08:10] <The-Kernel> man chroot
[08:11] <cheeseboy> ive used chroot before sometthing is broke
[08:11] <The-Kernel> no duh!
[08:11] <The-Kernel> but...yeah
[08:12] <cheeseboy> it says to do the command i was doing
[08:12] <The-Kernel> get out of root, and use sudo
[08:12] <The-Kernel> sudo chroot
[08:13] <cheeseboy> greg@cheeseboy:~$ sudo chroot /newarch
[08:13] <cheeseboy> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[08:16] <The-Kernel> cd into / and then "sudo chroot newarch"
[08:20] <warbler> chroot needs a command or it defaults to bash - bash can't run newarch obviously - find what does run newarch
[08:24] <hellekin> cheeseboy: looks like bash is missing from your chroot dir
[08:25] <cheeseboy> hellekin i got it the tut mislead me
[08:27] <warbler> cheeseboy: what was the fix/
[08:27] <warbler> *?
[08:27] <cheeseboy> pacman.static -S bash pacman filesystem -r /newarch
[08:28] <warbler> k
[08:36] <noob_> hi all
[08:36] <noob_> if i start an app with alt+f2 where can i remove them? im on xubuntu
[10:41] <rockets> I just booted up the Xubuntu live cd and its prompting me for a username and password at the X login screen.
[10:41] <rockets>  What gives?
[10:46] <rockets> Any ideas?
[10:50] <hyper__ch> try "root" without pwd
[10:50] <rockets> tried that.
[10:51] <rockets> root doesnt have no password
[10:51] <rockets> its disabled entirely
[10:51] <rockets> remember
[10:51] <hyper__ch> ubuntu-user
[10:51] <rockets> ok, im waiting for it to boot up again
[10:51] <hyper__ch> rockets: it's the live-cd.. that's not the same as an installed system
[10:51] <rockets> its not ubuntu-user
[10:51] <rockets> the user is just ubuntu
[10:51] <rockets> and i tried that
[10:51] <hyper__ch> then use just ubuntu
[10:52] <rockets> tried it.
[10:52] <hyper__ch> you sure you boot from the cd?
[10:52] <rockets> yes . . .
[10:52] <rockets> theres no linux on the system
[10:52] <rockets> its got Win ME installed
[10:52] <rockets> im booting from the cd
[10:52] <hyper__ch> that is strange
[10:53] <hyper__ch> did you do a cd check for defects?
[10:53] <rockets> nope
[10:53] <rockets> ill try that if this doesnt work
[10:53] <The-Kernel> ?
[10:53] <rockets> waiting for it to reboot
[10:55] <rockets> hmm it shouldnt be taking THIS long on 800 Mhz + 128 MB ram
[10:55] <hyper__ch> 128mb isn't that much
[10:55] <rockets> i know its not
[10:55] <rockets> but this is xubuntu
[10:55] <hyper__ch> you remember, it's loading a whole sysem into memory
[10:55] <rockets> yes i know
[10:55] <hyper__ch> xubuntu isn't lightweight either
[10:56] <rockets> oh no? then whats it for?
[10:56] <rockets> thats the whole point of xubuntu according to the site. . .
[10:56] <hyper__ch> dsl or featherlinux are lightweight
[10:57] <rockets> featherlinux and dsl are no good for this situation, non geeks are using it
[10:58] <hyper__ch> one doesn't have to be a geek to use a fully installed and setup system
[10:58] <rockets> im not setting up fluxbox for a non geek
[10:59] <rockets> thats a horrible idea
[11:00] <hyper__ch> that's your imaginatino
[11:00] <rockets> no its not
[11:00] <rockets> its not easy to use enough
[11:00] <hyper__ch> most people don't do anything than writing some text, surfing the net and reading email
[11:00] <rockets> you can insist that it is
[11:00] <rockets> but its not.
[11:00] <hyper__ch> even my mom uses now dsl on her als computer
[11:00] <rockets> great
[11:00] <rockets> have fun with that
[11:01] <hyper__ch> she has no troubles with it
[11:01] <rockets> ok well you have fun with that. personally im not giving a non-geek dsl
[11:01] <hyper__ch> that's your decision
[11:06] <Ben_Cs> hello
[11:13] <hyper__ch> hiho Ben_Cs
[11:13] <hyper__ch> Ben_Cs: what's the issue today?
[11:14] <Ben_Cs> nothing really
[11:14] <Ben_Cs> just wanted to greet you
[11:14] <Ben_Cs> everything works just fine
[11:15] <hyper__ch> Ben_Cs: for once ;)
[11:17] <Ben_Cs> actually my questions were not on something not working, but concerning making extra things work. evil tweaks as one was extra, and doesn't work. so i say screw evil tweaks
[11:17] <Ben_Cs> :)
[11:27] <Ben_Cs> hyper_ch: still here?
[11:31] <Ben_Cs> never mind
[11:42] <worried> hello, i'm a newbie who wants to switch from windows 98 to xubuntu. i'm on a 180mhz processor, 30mb ram, 8gb hd
[11:55] <Ben_Cs> worried: bad idea. your pc will work too slow
[11:55] <The-Kernel> worried: I don't think even Xubuntu will run on that, try DSL or Puppy linux
[11:55] <Ben_Cs> worried: better try DSL or fluxbuntu
[11:55] <Ben_Cs> i agree, DSL will be best 4 u
[11:56] <Ben_Cs> cause fluxbuntu was a bit slow on P2 200mhz
[11:56] <Ben_Cs> when tried it
[11:56] <The-Kernel> Fluxbuntu is still a bit....tweaky...as someone called it
[11:56] <Ben_Cs> officially xubuntu need 300mhz or higher am i right The-Kernael?
[11:56] <The-Kernel> its unusual
[11:57] <Ben_Cs> hey Jester45
[11:57] <The-Kernel> Ben_Cs: yes, however I've been able to get it to run on a 166 MHz Pentium Pro, its the ram that'll kill him
[11:57] <The-Kernel> I had plenty of ram (126 mb) when I did that
[11:58] <Ben_Cs> i had 256mb ram on P2 266mhz and xubuntu was still slow
[11:58] <Ben_Cs> even fluxbuntu was a bit lagging
[11:59] <The-Kernel> yeah it was slow...but it was completely usable
[11:59] <Jester45> command line would be nice on this systems
[12:00] <The-Kernel> A good fileserver
[12:16] <Shaunwin> HI
[12:17] <biouser> does anyone know the easiest way to log on to a wireless network using WPA?
[12:17] <Shaunwin> I'm a new user to Linux & XUbuntu just won't install
[12:17] <Shaunwin> Can Any one help?
[12:17] <Shaunwin> Please
[12:17] <Jester45> someone will help
[12:18] <Shaunwin> Tx
[12:18] <Jester45> but i dont think they will answer your question within a second of asking
[12:18] <Shaunwin> New to this all
[12:19] <Jester45> give them a bit of time its all volunteers so they might be using their comps right now
[12:19] <Shaunwin> Tx
[12:19] <biouser> I think I got the WPA question licked
[12:20] <biouser> wpa-supplicant... some guis
[12:20] <biouser> will try soon
[12:20] <Jester45> i my self dont use wireless so im oif no help in the mean time google might beof some help
[12:24] <Shaunwin> By the way I get error: Bios Age fails cutoff 1999
[12:24] <Shaunwin> & something about ACPI
[12:25] <Jester45> do you have a computer thats from before 99
[12:25] <Shaunwin> Yip
[12:26] <Shaunwin> Then get Segmentation fault after Loading please wait
[12:26] <Shaunwin> Busy Box comes up & finaly initramfs
[12:27] <Shaunwin> Age of PC should not call all this surely
[12:28] <Jester45> it could
[12:28] <Shaunwin> ok
[12:28] <Shaunwin> Any idea what segmentation fault is
[12:28] <Jester45> new additions to bios syandards maybe
[12:28] <Jester45> the program broke
[12:29] <Shaunwin> ok
[12:29] <Shaunwin> Guess unless I update bios - no chance of loading it..
[12:30] <Jester45> well...
[12:32] <Shaunwin> For a nother time..Very late my side - hope to chat again.Tx 4 the chat bye 4 now
[12:32] <Jester45> old bios cant be updated
[12:33] <Shaunwin> tx 4 taht
[12:33] <Jester45> most old ones, but DSL has an option to use an alternative iso
[12:33] <Jester45> that has a diffrent boot up options to start on old hardware
[12:33] <Jester45> DSL= Damn Small Linux
[12:34] <Shaunwin> tx
[12:35] <Shaunwin> Can I then load the xubuntu on top of that?
[12:35] <Jester45> you would have to install DSL and then chagne your list of sofware to xubuntu then update but im not sure if that wiill work
[12:39] <Shaunwin> tx
[12:39] <Shaunwin> Went to : http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/download.html
[12:39] <Shaunwin> & then mirror
[12:39] <Shaunwin> ftp://ftp.oss.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/damnsmall/
[12:40] <Shaunwin> But not sure what to choose to download
[12:49] <Shaunwin> Downloading dsl-3.4.1.iso
[12:49] <Shaunwin> Good night
[01:01] <rockets> If I install ubuntu server, install linux-image-generic, and then install xubuntu-desktop, it will basically be a standard xubuntu install right?
[01:04] <Jester45> yes