| LaserJock | moquist: thanks | 02:03 |
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| moquist | LaserJock: yep | 02:06 |
| LaserJock | moquist: does the 2nd one include the change from the first | 02:07 |
| moquist | yes | 02:07 |
| moquist | I just kept going with the same file. diff my v.2 against whatever you have. | 02:07 |
| LaserJock | k,good | 02:07 |
| moquist | Any word on my moodle package yet? :) | 02:08 |
| moquist | Sorry. I shouldn't nag...I know you're busy. | 02:08 |
| LaserJock | yeah, problem is inlaws are here for the weekend | 02:18 |
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| LaserJock | moquist: Committed revision 4312. | 02:20 |
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| LaserJock | moquist: what were you doing to test moodle? | 02:23 |
| LaserJock | install with mysql and install with postgresql? | 02:23 |
| LaserJock | moquist: I'll bbl going out for dinner | 02:28 |
| moquist | LaserJock: yes -- I installed moodle with mysql & postgresql. You then have to open a browser to http://localhost/moodle/ to complete the installation. (I forwarded localhost:80 to the remote system for that part.) | 02:34 |
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| Nubae | hi there... I'm trying to set up a proxy server with some sort of filtering for students... what is recommended, Ideally I'd like something that works with Squid which I have some experience with | 01:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | dansguardian | 01:12 |
| Nubae | yeah I looked t that, but it set up nother firewall utility which screwed up my shorewall setup | 01:13 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | another utility? | 01:13 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i dont know about shorewall, btw | 01:13 |
| Nubae | oh... well, I followed guide I found, actually several, with dansguardian playing a central role | 01:15 |
| Nubae | but using some other firewall tool, cant remember now... firehol maybe? | 01:15 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | its working a treat for me... cant really say more then that :| | 01:15 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | on a dapper system, fwiw. | 01:15 |
| Nubae | ok, and what firewall are u using, or just iptables directly? | 01:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | using iptables to redirect 80 -> dans -> dans into squid | 01:16 |
| Nubae | oh... ok, that sounds pretty feasable... guess only need http child filtered | 01:17 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | well, i do have a 'drop anything not on 80' rule... | 01:17 |
| Nubae | ah... I'd need to remove that as this server is doing lot of stuff, including ltsp | 01:18 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i have a dedecated gateway | 01:18 |
| Nubae | so u just apt-get installed dansguardian and modified the config file? | 01:18 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yes. the config doesnt need much tweaking at all | 01:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | you can optionally whitelist sites like .gov.au .edu.au | 01:20 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | um... your relevent TLD of course... | 01:20 |
| Nubae | hmmm... maybe I'm better of putting this on seperate computer? | 01:20 |
| Nubae | so it doesnt interfere with the server | 01:20 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | *shrug* better i dont know... i like dedicated gateways myself | 01:20 |
| Nubae | ok, well I'll give it a go... if you dont mind, can I ask you some questions as I install it? | 01:21 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | no worries | 01:22 |
| Nubae | so email doesnt go through it? | 01:22 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i have done squid+dans on Debian etch, but not confident. with dapper i can check against my settings (if that helps you) | 01:22 |
| Nubae | yeah, I'm on feisty | 01:22 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | through what, the gateway ? | 01:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | "just dont block smtp" | 01:23 |
| Nubae | k | 01:23 |
| Nubae | theres 2 conf files, dansguardian.conf and dansguardianf1.conf | 01:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | you want dansguardian.conf | 01:25 |
| Nubae | what reporting level do u use? | 01:26 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | 3 | 01:26 |
| Nubae | so u created a custom html file | 01:26 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i edited the default | 01:26 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | just rebranded basicly | 01:26 |
| Nubae | ah, makes sense, what kind of info does it give if it tells u why access was denied? | 01:26 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hm? | 01:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | # 2 = report fully <- that optoin? | 01:27 |
| Nubae | yeah | 01:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | it tells you the exact line it banned you on | 01:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | eg "you have been denided because you tried to look up" <really bad things here> | 01:28 |
| Nubae | ah, maybe too much :-) | 01:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yep :) | 01:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | 10,1 and 3 are good | 01:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | 2 is good for debugging | 01:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | but i use the logs for that, so i have 3 set, and look in logs | 01:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Nubae, next option is language (for me) | 01:29 |
| Nubae | yeah, I just put English in | 01:29 |
| Nubae | uk | 01:29 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | just cd into the languagedir , cp -r ukenglish mycustom | 01:30 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | customise mycustom/index.html (or whatever the files called) | 01:30 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | then set language='mycustom' | 01:30 |
| Nubae | oh, cool | 01:30 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | its called template.html | 01:31 |
| Nubae | I leave the messages dir where it is? | 01:32 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yea | 01:33 |
| Nubae | proxy settings leave as default? Squid runs on the same server | 01:34 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yep | 01:34 |
| Nubae | whats filter groups... dont quite understand that | 01:35 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | dont worry about it | 01:35 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | well, i havent | 01:35 |
| Nubae | phrasefiltermode? | 01:38 |
| Nubae | leave default? | 01:38 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i left default | 01:38 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i didnt change a lot, which is one thing i liked about it - blocks everything without much effort | 01:40 |
| Nubae | yeah defaults look pretty good, but like knowing what its doing anyway :-) | 01:40 |
| Nubae | usexforwardedfor | 01:41 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | off | 01:42 |
| Nubae | k thought cause it says something about squid... | 01:42 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | you have dans between squid+clients, not squid between dans+clients | 01:43 |
| Nubae | ah... true... have u got it running as nobody? | 01:44 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | default | 01:44 |
| Nubae | ok virusscan? | 01:45 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | do you want it to? | 01:45 |
| Nubae | well, I've clamav already installed, running with postfix | 01:46 |
| Nubae | or is this not scanning email, but downloads? | 01:46 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | downloads - dansguardian is an http proxy only | 01:46 |
| Nubae | ah yes just read :-) need to be less impatient | 01:47 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hehe. | 01:47 |
| Nubae | ok... that seems to be it then | 01:48 |
| Nubae | so just turn it on and its running? | 01:48 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | restart it, yeah | 01:49 |
| Nubae | ah, it does look for messages from the custom dir | 01:50 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :) | 01:51 |
| Nubae | /var/log/dansguardian/access.log <--- what permissions u got on this file? | 01:53 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | -rw-r--r-- 1 dansguardian dansguardian 34K 2007-09-02 13:46 access.log | 01:54 |
| Nubae | wont run for me with the default... also tells me its running as dansguardian, seems to be ignoring the setting from the config file | 01:54 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | mines running as dansguardian too. | 01:55 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | what do you mean 'with the default' though? | 01:55 |
| Nubae | default permissions for the log file | 01:55 |
| Nubae | just relsed it doesnt exist | 01:56 |
| Nubae | never mind | 01:56 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ok | 01:57 |
| Nubae | did u add anything special to squid? | 01:59 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | um. | 02:00 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i've made lots of changes, i dont remember how many are dansguardian related though | 02:00 |
| Nubae | ok, nevermind, I'll figure that out myself... thanks for all your help | 02:01 |
| Nubae | really appreciate it | 02:01 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | np | 02:01 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i can flood you config if you want | 02:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | httpd_accel_host virtual | 02:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | httpd_accel_with_proxy on | 02:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | httpd_accel_uses_host_header on | 02:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ^^ check those settings | 02:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | acl our_networks src 192.168.1.0/24 | 02:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | will need attention | 02:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | not sure if/what else, depends on your exact layout | 02:03 |
| Nubae | oh, with dansguardian, is there already a set of filters in place, or does that need to be extensively editted? | 02:04 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | its already got filters | 02:05 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | look in dansguardianf1.conf at the naughtynesslimit setting | 02:05 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i left it on default | 02:05 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | but it gives you some idea whats going on | 02:06 |
| Nubae | ah yeah, I've got from 8-18 here | 02:07 |
| Nubae | guess I'll need the lowest setting | 02:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | # 50 is for young children, 100 for old children, 160 for young adults. | 02:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | naughtynesslimit = 50 | 02:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | is what i have | 02:08 |
| Nubae | heh, where do old children end and young adults start, :-) | 02:09 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | no idea :) | 02:09 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | but i do know i'm using young children setting for a community centre of ages from ~15-80 | 02:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | and with good use of whitelisting its the perfect setting | 02:10 |
| Nubae | ok... so it blocks mostly porn content right? | 02:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yes | 02:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i'd flood you some blocking, but then people wouldnt be able to view the logs *grin* | 02:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | actually... want me to pm it? so you can ee | 02:11 |
| Nubae | great, thats the biggest problem... | 02:11 |
| Nubae | yeah sure y not | 02:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | oh, it also blocks extentions | 02:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Nubae, check your pms | 02:14 |
| Nubae | are you forwarding squid to dans, or the other way round? | 02:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | clients -> dans -> squid -> internet | 02:25 |
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| Nubae | :-) do people complain? | 02:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | not really. | 02:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | once i unblocked a few key TLDs and websites that 90% of our traffic goes to | 02:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | for example it blocks .doc and .deb by default - nota good state of affairs | 02:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | whitelist our ISP ubuntu mirror and all of a suden we can dist-upgrade again. | 02:29 |
| Nubae | hep | 02:29 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | also with .edu.au and .gov.au whitelisted people could download thier work again | 02:30 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | you probalby get the idea anyhow :) | 02:30 |
| Nubae | hehe yeah | 02:31 |
| Nubae | so on the client side, nothing needs to be setup in the browser? | 02:32 |
| Nubae | auto proxy? | 02:32 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | not if you redirect port 80 on the gateway | 02:32 |
| Nubae | ok, yeah doh | 02:32 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | you'll have a line similar to `iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080` in your iptables config | 02:33 |
| Nubae | yeah redirect 80 to 8080 | 02:33 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | Amaranth, hi mate | 02:36 |
| Amaranth | hi | 02:36 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :) | 02:36 |
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| raynerd | hello, can anyone help with editing a live CD ? | 02:55 |
| raynerd | I have an edubuntu CD, with the programs I want to use. I want to use it in class but I dont want the install option. I simply want a CD that boots without the install desktop icon or the menu install icon. | 02:56 |
| raynerd | anyone know how this can be done. | 02:56 |
| raynerd | ? | 02:56 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | not sure how the live cd stuff happens in ubuntu land | 02:57 |
| raynerd | im using edubuntu. | 02:58 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | same process | 02:59 |
| raynerd | Been trying to do it for last few days! | 02:59 |
| raynerd | but i`m a linux noob myself so .. its all a bit above me | 02:59 |
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| sbalneav | Morning all | 03:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hi mate | 03:26 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 05:11 |
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| raynerd | Hey, does anyone know how I could completely remove the install options, those being the desktop icon and menu install icon, off the Live Cd. I want to run it with students, but dont want them to "accidently" install it! | 05:42 |
| sbalneav | raynerd: You've have to custom cut youre own version of the cd. | 06:19 |
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| raynerd | how is that done? | 06:24 |
| raynerd | i mean I was told to run live CD delete all install icons off the desktop and menu bar and then copy a image of the new CD and save as an iso. | 06:26 |
| raynerd | I can do the first bit but then don`t know where to go from there...how do i save the new CD image and how do i save as an iso>? | 06:26 |
| sbalneav | It's a rather long mastering process. | 06:45 |
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| sbalneav | https://launchpad.net/reconstructor | 06:46 |
| raynerd | sbalneav: I tried to use that earlier today and yesterday, But when i boot i get a black screen and no options. It definately takes control and boots up, but like I say, I get a short script then a black screen | 06:50 |
| sbalneav | I'd check on their mailing list or help forums, then. | 06:52 |
| raynerd | ok :( | 07:08 |
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| john_s | hello all, can anyone tell me how to save the output of dmesg to a text file if I do it within a chroot environment on the thin client? I am trying to capture debug info and I can't figure out how to move it to a place where I can email it to someone | 09:10 |
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| stgraber | john_s: if you have an USB plug, you can use an usbkey, otherwise maybe using the floppy drive | 09:20 |
| john_s | stgraber: thanks, I am trying to debug my broken usbfs automount stuff so I can't use usb | 09:20 |
| john_s | These thin clients don't have floppies either | 09:20 |
| john_s | :-) | 09:21 |
| stgraber | hmm, so you have a problem :) | 09:21 |
| john_s | Yup | 09:21 |
| john_s | are you an edubuntu/ltsp guru? | 09:21 |
| john_s | please say yes! | 09:21 |
| stgraber | maybe using a nfs server, but I'm not sure that the nfs kernel module is in the thin client chroot | 09:21 |
| stgraber | sort of, I'm testing all new Edubuntu release and have already installed some networks | 09:22 |
| john_s | ok well briefly, I have been unable to get local usb keys to show up on users desktops | 09:23 |
| john_s | I have been working through the DebugLocalDev thing for about two weeks off and on | 09:23 |
| john_s | but not yet got it | 09:23 |
| john_s | if I go to a termianl on the thin client by doing ctrl+alt+f2 I can put the thumbdrive in and dmesg shows it getting added and it shows up in /etc/fstab | 09:24 |
| stgraber | ok, so in the terminal you could manually mount it ? | 09:25 |
| stgraber | are your users in the fuse group ? | 09:25 |
| john_s | but when I try the final step on the debug ssh -S /tmp/.ltspfs_socket server "/usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter /tmp add" I get a complaint from the ssh server saying authenticity of host 'server can't be established | 09:25 |
| john_s | yup | 09:25 |
| john_s | I guess that's where I fail is manually mounting it | 09:26 |
| john_s | since that's where I encounter the complaint about ssh keys | 09:26 |
| john_s | I have changed the ipaddress of the external nic since I set this server up but would that mess up the ssh key of the nic on the ltsp lan? | 09:27 |
| stgraber | ok, and do you have a different result if you run this command with a logged on user ? | 09:27 |
| stgraber | shouldn't be a problem if the LAN ip didn't change | 09:27 |
| john_s | when you say logged on user, you mean if I go through to the gdm desktop and then open a terminal and follow all of those steps? | 09:28 |
| john_s | when I log on and open up a terminal and run the tests I don't see anything about usb devices in dmesg and fstab doesn't show any usb devices | 09:31 |
| stgraber | I mean, on your thin client open a user session, then switch to tty2 (ctrl+alt+f2) and try the ltspfs cmd | 09:32 |
| stgraber | (sorry I'm doing wireless driver testing/debuging at the same time) | 09:33 |
| john_s | ok, well when I do ctrl+alt+f2 as a normal user I just get a black screen with a rapidly blinking curser in th upper left hand corner. | 09:34 |
| john_s | I appreciate your help! | 09:34 |
| john_s | so I can't seem to do anything unless I log in on tty1 | 09:35 |
| john_s | and then only as root | 09:36 |
| stgraber | what's the exact ssh error you get ? | 09:38 |
| john_s | The authenticity of host 'server (192.168.0.254)' can't be established. RSA key fingerpirnt is 47:1c:55:fa:45:05:80:b0:a6:48:c1:aa:68:5a:d5:2d: are you sure you want to continue connecting? | 09:40 |
| stgraber | ok, can you have a look at files in /etc/ssh/ | 09:41 |
| john_s | yes | 09:41 |
| stgraber | is 192.168.0.254 specified in one of them ? | 09:41 |
| john_s | yes, shall i clear it? | 09:41 |
| stgraber | no, but then it shouldn't ask this question ... | 09:42 |
| stgraber | that's weird | 09:42 |
| stgraber | and if you try replacing server by 192.168.0.254 in your cmd | 09:42 |
| john_s | lemme try | 09:43 |
| stgraber | does it helps ? | 09:43 |
| john_s | stand by | 09:43 |
| john_s | ok well the response was different anyway | 09:44 |
| john_s | I did it by ip and it asked for root's password at 192.168.0.254 which i provided then it complained that there was no file or directory called /usr/sbin/ltspmounter (which is true but that's the nomenclature used on the debug) | 09:45 |
| john_s | I am doing this comand ssh -S /tmp/.ltspfs_socket server "/usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter /tmp add" | 09:46 |
| stgraber | do you have ltspfs installed on the server ? | 09:46 |
| john_s | ummm | 09:47 |
| john_s | this is a stock edubuntu install | 09:47 |
| john_s | lemme see | 09:47 |
| stgraber | (according to apt-file that's the package you need to have ltspfsmounter) | 09:47 |
| john_s | I have /usr/bin/ltspfsd is that a good indication? | 09:48 |
| john_s | should I just do apt-get from within the chroot? | 09:48 |
| stgraber | dpkg -l | grep ltspfs | 09:48 |
| stgraber | it's a package to install on the server itself, not the chroot | 09:49 |
| stgraber | so : sudo apt-get install ltspfs on the server should do it | 09:49 |
| john_s | ltspfs is already the newest version. | 09:50 |
| john_s | as an aside all of my ubuntu based systems have been complaiing about multiverse sources lately | 09:52 |
| john_s | is it weird at all that I can't do ctrl+alt+f2 to get to tty2? | 09:55 |
| stgraber | no, I usually have a debug console on tty2 here but that can be personal tweak or gutsy | 09:58 |
| john_s | ok, so not integral to debugging this problem, I guess | 09:58 |
| raynerd | I know I asked this before but I`ll say again. Anyone know how to edit a live | 10:07 |
| raynerd | Cd | 10:07 |
| john_s | ok | 10:13 |
| john_s | I am leaving | 10:13 |
| john_s | stgraber thanks for the help! | 10:14 |
| john_s | I'll keep plugging away | 10:14 |
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