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sumguy231bradsnet: Pardon me if I missed this, the nvidia-glx driver is installed but doesn't work?12:37
bradsnetBut really I've tried at least 10 different xorg.confs at this point.12:37
bradsnetYes sum.12:37
bradsnetAt least, that was the first problem.... I guess.12:38
klobsterbradsnet: what is the command you are using to install the driver?12:38
bradsnetwell, the first time I did it I just did sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx12:38
klobsterbradsnet: is it the same computer you are using now?12:38
bradsnetNo.12:38
klobstergood12:38
sumguy231Have you tried not selecting the 'glx' extension? Doing so will prevent you from using hardware acceleration, but if it works the problem lies somewhere in there, and you should still be able to load X with the nvidia drivers.12:38
bradsnetWell, nv works without hardware acceleration, but that's exactly why I want nvidia-glx.12:39
klobsterwhat happened when you ran sudo apt blah blah12:39
sumguy231bradsnet: Yeah, I just wwant to know if it works mostly. What kind of card do you have?12:39
bradsnetInstalls it just fine. Then I used the graphical interface in kubuntu to select the driver.12:39
bradsnetnvidia geforce 6800 go ultra12:39
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cprmptI gotta say guys, I'm impressed12:40
klobsterbradsnet: you mean in system settings? yeah that is garbage, you need do it manually.12:40
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cprmptkubuntu has entirely replaced windows as my desktop OS12:40
bradsnetThen I rebooted, and came back to a flashing cursor, no video. I could get to the console with c+a+f1 at that point.12:40
cprmptthe only thing is that my video card drivers are not working properly...  but i dont really care to fix that right now12:40
ScorpKingnvidia geforce fx5200 gave me the same problem :(12:40
bradsnetHeh, mine either cpr... otherwise I love kubuntu.12:40
bradsnetSo I checked the Xorg.0.log, and it had some jazz about libglx.so not being found, so I looked where it said it wasn't but it was there.12:41
sumguy231bradsnet: And is linux-restricted-modules-<the kernel you're using> installed?12:41
bradsnetNo, I think one instruction thing I found made me remove that.12:41
sumguy231Which instruction thingy? I'm pretty sure you need the restricted modules to use the nvidia driver.12:42
bradsnetAt that point I suspected my problem was this: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg-bugzilla-noise/2004-March/000109.html but I don't know enough to know if it is or not.12:42
bradsnetAfter I couldn't get it to work with nvidia-glx I tried to do it nvidia's way.12:43
bradsnethttp://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=7249012:43
bradsnetit says "If you use Ubuntu, please also ensure that the linux-restricted-modules or linux-restricted-modules-common packages have been uninstalled. "12:44
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sumguy231I guess I could see that, if you install Nvidia's binaries I guess the module it builds could conflict.12:44
sumguy231*with the one from the repository, I mean.12:45
bradsnetThat's another confusing thing... conflicting instructions.12:45
klobsterit doesn't sound like you installed the binaries, though12:45
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bradsnetInstalled the binaries?12:45
sumguy231Sorry, I gotta go. A lot.12:45
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bradsnetThanks anyhoo.12:46
klobsterthe proprietary drivers from nvidia12:46
bradsnetI downloaded NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run12:47
bradsnetand ran it.12:47
bradsnetA few times.12:47
bradsnetThat's all it said to do.12:47
klobsterwhat does it say when you run it?12:47
bradsnetWell, for the most part it runs fine.12:47
bradsnetRuns, compiles a kernel, reconfigures xorg.conf...12:48
bradsnetreboot, same flashing cursor, no video.12:48
bradsnetBut the errors in Xorg.0.log keep changing.12:48
bradsnetEvery time I do it that is.12:48
klobsterwhat do they change to12:48
bradsnethttp://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=7249012:49
bradsnetI followed those, and now there are no errors in it at all.12:49
bradsnetBut I still have the exact same behavior.12:49
bradsnetBoots, flashing cursor, no video.12:49
bradsnetAt several times during this I've changed back to the "nv" driver and it works fine every time.12:50
klobsterwhat errors do you get with the nvidia driver?12:50
bradsnetOh, and the card worked fine in windows.12:50
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bradsnetIn Xorg.0.log? With nvidia-glx? Almost exactly this: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg-bugzilla-noise/2004-March/000109.html12:51
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bradsnetI mean, the only thing different about mine was slightly different directories but it looks like that was generated on a different distro.12:52
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BrightEyes`hello.anyone to help me configure my tv card?12:53
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BrightEyes`hello.anyone to help me configure my tv card? lspci gives 02:07.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)12:53
bradsnetWish I could help.12:54
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bradsnetoh, btw, klobster lspci does list my card.12:55
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aguitelanybody helpme to change the look from my kubuntu ,i have shi.. video card12:56
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WhtWolfTeraDyneNeed some help. I'm trying to get 3D working. Don't send me the bot response, as it didn't work. Anyway, I have a nVidia Geeforce 8300GS, but lspci shows "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0423 (rev a1)"12:58
WhtWolfTeraDyneAnyone know what I can do to get it to recognize the card?12:58
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litm89HOLA01:00
litm89necesito ayuda01:00
litm89can somebody help mee01:00
bradsnetI'm having an issue getting an nvidia card working as well...01:01
bradsnetBeen working on it for a day and a half no with no progress.01:01
WhtWolfTeraDynelitm89: It's usually best to just ask your question. If someone knows, they'll respond.01:01
bradsnetSome regress infact.01:01
litm89thanks01:01
WhtWolfTeraDynebradsnet: What card is it?01:01
litm89 i mount a har disk01:02
litm89and i cant umount it01:02
bradsnet6800 go ultra01:02
klobster!es | litm8901:02
litm89its on the desk01:02
ubotulitm89: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:02
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litm89it's name is "/"01:02
litm89thank you01:02
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lancosI have kubuntu 7.06 64bit, I can i install and run a 32bit application?01:04
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konradhello01:05
klobsterbradsnet: what kernel are you using?01:06
konradsory ... i have a quest01:06
U238Willy!java01:06
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.01:06
U238Willythat's for me01:06
U238Willyty01:06
konraddo u now where can i remove some apps from autostart ?01:06
marek_hello everybody01:07
kcg!apache201:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apache2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:07
bradsnetklobster: Dunno.01:08
reldruhhi marek_01:08
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WhtWolfTeraDyne!lamp | kcg01:08
ubotukcg: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)01:08
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klobsterbradsnet: run uname -r to find out01:09
WhtWolfTeraDyneO_O; looks like Envy might be my only solution for my video card problem.01:09
kcgWhtWolfTeraDyne, thx... but i've got a problem on enabling the php module for apache201:10
bradsnet1 sec, I'm going through those instructions.01:10
klobsteralso this looks simple enough01:10
klobster/msg bradsnet:01:10
klobster Looking in the forums again (I'm not the only 8800GTS owner having trouble), I found these instructions:01:10
klobster1. wget http://uk.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.11/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run01:10
klobster2. sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run -x01:10
klobster3. sudo cp -f NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libnvidia-wfb.so.100.14.11 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so01:10
klobster4. startx01:10
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klobsterdoh!, that was supposed toi send as private msg, sorry everyone01:11
bradsnetklobster: 2.6.20-16-generic01:11
marek_i love kubuntu01:11
WhtWolfTeraDyneXD The "msg" command doesn't like you, klobster01:12
klobsterI know, wtf?01:12
|TraX|Hi, I updated my system and now x won't start giving me a module version mismatch error (this started today) (And my 8800gts was working just fine with the 100.14.11 driver before now)01:13
klobsterbradsnet: since you already have the driver, just try steps 2, 3 4.  have you been stopping x before running htis?01:13
|TraX|Any ideas?01:13
klobster|TraX|: you need to reinstall the propreietary driver every time you update your kernel01:14
|TraX|That's what I figured01:14
klobstersorry01:14
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|TraX|S'ok I did it a thousand times with 2 other distros before I tried kubuntu and got it to work01:15
klobsterit's one of the hazards of running closed source drivers01:15
WhtWolfTeraDyneIt's odd. Wolvix can see the card as an 8300GS in LiveCD mode, but Kubuntu can't see it even when installed.01:16
marek_it's a new world01:16
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konradhelp meee ! how can i control autostart ? :(01:17
bradsnetklobster: Sorry, already up to step 7... they seem like the might be helpful.... um, yes, I've been stopping x before running the install if that is what you mean, it won't do most things unless it is stopped.01:17
WhtWolfTeraDyne*sigh* I guess I'll just live without 3D, or use my Windows laptop for such things. I refuse to use envy. Too much breakage.01:18
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klobsterbradsnet: just checking.  didja see the steps above?  it's pretty much just the important part from the other link.01:18
bradsnetYes, I definately did that.01:18
|TraX|klobster: I'm guessing I don't have to change my xorg.conf?01:18
klobster|TraX|: no, it shouldn't have changed since last time01:19
klobster|TraX|: you are essentially relinking the driver to the new kernel; you aren't actually updating the software.01:19
bradsnetMoment of truth...01:20
klobsterWhtWolfTeraDyne: that card is too new, gutsy might see it, though01:20
help-mexorg.conf.fglrx-2 ,xorg.conf.fglrx-1, xorg.conf.fglrx-0 , xorg.conf.20070830233211 , i deleted my xorg.con file but my pc can open 1280x1100 32bit dept but i dont know which xorg.conf opening my pc icant set any parameters my graphic adapter functions on desktop...01:20
bradsnetOkay, it did something different. Not really better, but different. Now it gave me the kubuntu logo without the status bar for a few seconds before going to the flashing cursor...01:20
bradsnetyay01:20
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klobsterbradsnet: I need to see dmesg  before making any other suggestions.01:21
WhtWolfTeraDyneklobster: Ok. I'll just wait till Gutsy goes final, then.01:21
help-me??01:22
Phoenix_Firehello01:22
klobsterhelp-me: I am not clear on your question01:22
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bradsnetNow that nv isn't working either I REALLY don't know how to do that.01:22
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klobsterWhtWolfTeraDyne: that's what i am doing01:22
Phoenix_Firewhat is the advantage when i configure a aplication in this style "./configure --prefix=/usr"01:22
klobster!hi | Phoenix_Fire01:22
ubotuPhoenix_Fire: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!01:22
level1Hi, I ran a wine game that resized my screen, and now systemsettings won't resize it back (it thinks its resizing it but its not)01:23
Phoenix_Fireshould i use ./configure or ./configure --prefix=/usr to compile kaffein01:23
level1the game is no longer running?01:23
klobsterPhoenix_Fire: it makes sure it links to /usr so that all users can access the app/01:23
level1!resolution01:23
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:23
Phoenix_Firekobster, thx for your answear :)01:24
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klobsterouf seems shy01:24
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bradsnetklobster: For whatever reason I decided to re-run the nvidia script... that didn't change anything though...01:25
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klobsterdid you copy that libwf.so file like the above suggesstion?01:26
bradsnetYes.01:26
klobster:/01:26
klobsternv isn't working?01:26
klobsterare you sure?01:26
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bradsnetIt's never complained about that in Xorg.0.log... so I don't think that's the issue. It complained about the symbolic link for libglx... so maybe if I could get it back to that point I could do the same thing to rebuild that link... but I have not been able to get there.01:27
GuyFromHellfeh, how do i get grub to do the fancy "omg there's a windows partition" thing01:27
bradsnetI'm trying again with nv right now.01:27
klobsterhelp-me: please re ask your question, I couldn't understand you.01:27
GuyFromHellthe manual way doesn't seem to be liking me right now01:27
bradsnetMoment of truth...01:27
bradsnetFlashing cursor.01:27
bradsnetOne of those steps broke nv.01:27
bradsnetFrom either what I sent you or what you sent me.01:27
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bradsnetI really don't want to reinstall... I spent hours this morning installing and configuring software... :(01:28
DrWilcockhow do i get my taskbar white on black like in windows01:28
klobsterbradsnet: do you need the newest driver?  I have /NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run and it works perfect for my 680001:28
bradsnetWell the instructions you sent me are for the one I have, which isn't that one, but I got it off of nvidia's website...01:29
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bradsnetI'm a little fed up at this point with it. I might just switch to ubuntu... maybe this fix would actually work for it.01:30
bradsnetI would be glad to try that one, but at the moment don't know how I could even get it on my system...01:30
bradsnetSuppose I could boot with the livecd now that I think about it.01:30
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fignewbradsnet, you're still trying to get it to work?01:31
klobsterbradsnet: I am guessing the copying of that libwfb file is what is stopping it, althou it could be copmmenting out that  #install nvidia /sbin/lrm-video nvidia $CMDLINE_OPTS line01:32
bradsnetyeah, except now one of these instructions I followed made things even worse.01:32
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DrWilcockdoes anyone know how to get my taskbar white on black like in windows01:32
bradsnetklobster: Who knows at this point...01:32
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bradsnetI've done so much...01:33
klobsterDrWilcock: did you try right clicking on the panel?01:33
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DrWilcocki did try it01:33
DrWilcocki can get black on black01:33
Ace2016Hi all01:33
DrWilcockbut not white on black01:33
Ace2016how do i run a java jar file?01:33
DrWilcockthere is no choices for text color01:33
klobsterbradsnet: you want me to email this older version to you?  it didn't have any issues when I ran it.01:34
bradsnetI dunno.01:34
bradsnetbrad@bradsnet.net01:34
bradsnetI could try it, but I think the problem is deeper now.01:34
klobsterbradsnet: ok, well mv /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so /usr/lib/xorg/modules/old.libwfb.so should get nv running again01:35
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bradsnetTrying it.01:37
bradsnetNo video, no flashing cursor.01:39
Phoenix_Fireciao and have a nice day01:39
bradsnetSwitching to tty1 and back I get the flashing cursor again.01:39
bradsnetNo errors in Xorg.0.log01:40
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klobsterthat's with nv in your Xorg.conf?01:40
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bradsnetYes.01:40
bradsnetI used dpkg-reconfigure to reconfigure it.01:40
bradsnetThat has worked in the past.01:41
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klobsterok, what about vim /etc/modprobe.d/lrm-video and taking the # out of the    #install nvidia /sbin/lrm-video nvidia $CMDLINE_OPTS line?01:41
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jhonyrodanybody can help me?01:41
bradsnetTesting.01:42
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bradsnetWhat is the question jhonyrod?01:43
jhonyrodi have a problem with audacity01:43
bradsnetklobster: Same, dead video.01:44
bradsnetI think I really hosed something.01:44
bradsnet:(01:44
sea_4_everoh, wheres that guy that lost the taskbar thing?01:44
WhtWolfTeraDynejhonyrod: Might want to be more specific.01:44
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sea_4_everALT + F1.01:45
bradsnetAt this point, I may just go back to windows.01:46
bradsnetToss my kubuntu cd down an elevator shaft.01:46
klobsterbradsnet: you can use grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf to tell me what driver is set in xorg01:46
jhonyroddo you know how can i get audacity working on linux cos i tried everything and its allways the same think, tried to configurate the audio settings and it didn't work, what should i do?01:46
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tekstacy'lo all01:47
bradsnetklobster: Well I just opened it in nano, it's nv01:47
tekstacyWhere can I find a list of shortcuts and hotkeys for Kubuntu/kde?01:47
jhonyrodhey man i need some help01:47
bradsnettekstacy: In the system configuration there is a keyboard panel, you can see what they are and customize them in there.01:48
jhonyrodbradsnet:01:48
tekstacycool, thanks.01:48
jhonyroddid you read my messege01:48
bradsnetYeah I dunno what to tell you.01:49
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jhonyrodwhat?01:49
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bradsnetI've been using kubuntu for 2 days and I'm ready to chuck it down a well so you are asking the wrong person.01:49
jhonyrodok well no prob man01:49
NickPrestabradsnet, why? What01:49
sea_4_evertekstacy : download tht little annoying AMOR thing, it tells you some every few minutes.01:49
bradsnetGood luck though.01:49
NickPrestabradsnet, What's the problem?01:49
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bradsnetIt's a long story, but basically I'm trying to get my video card working.01:50
bradsnetYes, I tried installing the binary drivers.01:50
sea_4_everbradsnet, do not chuck it, play Ktron!01:50
NickPrestabradsnet, which card do you have?01:50
klobsterbradsnet: yeah, we reset the options we changed (except for installing the driver), so I am not sure why nv won't run01:50
bradsnetnvidia geforce 6800 go ultra.01:50
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tekstacy:)  I saw that, it did look annoying, but I will try it.01:51
NickPrestabradsnet, is that in a Laptop?01:51
bradsnetAt first nv worked and nvidia didn't, now neither work.01:51
bradsnetYes.01:51
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bradsnetI think my first problem was http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg-bugzilla-noise/2004-March/000109.html01:51
bradsnetBut I can't even get that to happen again.01:51
bradsnetBut those are the exact errors I had in Xorg.0.log01:51
bradsnetNow I have no errors.01:51
bradsnetBut no video.01:51
bradsnetOn any driver.01:51
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bradsnetI did this:01:52
bradsnethttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51416101:52
bradsnetand this: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=7249001:52
bradsnetOne of those two got me from nv working to nv not working.01:52
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klobsterbradsnet: hey what happens if you run startx at the prompt now (without doing anything else)01:52
NickPresta!nvidia01:52
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:52
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klobsterNickPresta: already been there01:53
NickPrestaklobster, it was for my benefit, not for bradsnet's :)01:53
klobsterheh01:53
bradsnetYeah, already told him. :)01:53
elite101hello01:53
NickPrestait's been a while since I've had to install drivers. I'm looking at the steps again01:53
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klobsterbradsnet: what error do you get when you do startx?01:53
bradsnetuh, okay, well now it does fatal io error 104 on X server ":0.0" after - reqeusts with 0 events remaining.01:53
bradsneter the - sould be a 001:54
jhonyrodWhtWolfTeraDyne: ok my problem is that i can't record with audacity and i've been trying with the audio settigs+microphone config. and it isn't working yet, do you know what can i do?01:54
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bradsnetOh and my card worked fine on windows.01:55
WhtWolfTeraDynejhonyrod: Unfortunately, I don't. I don't usually use Audacity under Linux. You might want to try asking in #audacity01:55
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bradsnetAnd kubuntu was working fantastic with the nv driver... I just wanted to try out a game with wine... now it seems I'm stuck.01:55
stoney1hello gus :)01:55
stoney1guys01:55
bradsnetMy ubuntu livecd seems to be booting alright.01:56
gaiusis there some magic way to make .runs work in kubuntu ?01:56
NickPrestabradsnet, lets do a sanity check. Have you installed nvidia-glx? Did you do `sudo nvidia-xconfig`? What are the specific errors?01:56
bradsnetgaius: sudo sh blah.run has worked for me....01:56
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gaius./file.run should have worked01:57
gaiusas root01:57
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bradsnetNick. I've done those, no errors when I did them.01:57
gaiusso, does sudo work and not su?01:57
NickPrestabradsnet, would you mind posting your xorg.conf to a pastebin?01:57
BluesKaj!sudo01:57
klobsterbradsnet: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should get you nv back running again01:57
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:57
bradsnetDunno, but I know sudo works for me.01:57
gaiusI know01:57
gaiusbut, I just used su01:58
bradsnetklobster: That's what I did.01:58
gaiusand then I have root access without having to type sudo 58996978 times01:58
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bradsnetsudo -i is the recommended way of doing that. Don't ask me why or what is different.01:58
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gaiusalright01:58
gaiusI'm trying to install enemy-territory, for old time's sake01:58
gaiusthe sound won't work in gentoo :(01:59
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bradsnethuh, my livecd locked up...01:59
bradsnetklobster: I did that and that is why it has nv now...01:59
bradsnetBut it still doesn't work.02:00
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ctesibiusulpiussigh02:00
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ctesibiusulpiusI think linux just hates me02:00
bradsnetIndeed.02:00
bradsnetI think nvidia hates me.02:00
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ctesibiusulpiusnvidia likes me02:00
knoppixim mmacking my grub but how do i get my kernel to /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-4-486 ?02:00
klobsterbradsnet: I saw that, I am still trying to decipher why that would break it.02:00
klobsterdid the livecd really lock up?02:01
NickPrestabradsnet, check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=412797&postcount=6. Check the thread for more information.02:01
bradsnethttp://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=7249002:01
bradsnetIt could have been something from that.02:01
klobsterwhere did that come from?02:01
ctesibiusulpiusmy kernel 2.6.22-7 has some weird issue with playing video files in kaffeine, so I'm forced to use 2.6.21-4 :(02:01
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bradsnetYeah I've done that NickPresta.02:02
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ctesibiusulpiusso, is this a "family" or however you word it channel?02:02
bradsnetklobster: I've posted that a few times now.02:02
skkeeperhey people02:02
NickPrestabradsnet, and you get no errors, etc? How strange. The card is supported and others have had it running successfully.02:02
bradsnetOkay, livecd working now, might have been dirty.02:02
NickPresta!hi | skkeeper02:02
ubotuskkeeper: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!02:02
klobsterbradsnet: sorry, I meant when did you run that?02:02
bradsnetI know nick.02:02
skkeeperi have a problem with synaptic can anybody help me? im a totaly noob in linux02:03
NickPrestactesibiusulpius, yes, this is a "family" channel.02:03
bradsnetklobster: Right before I ran the ones you sent me.02:03
NickPresta!ask | skkeeper02:03
ubotuskkeeper: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:03
ctesibiusulpiusI figured so02:03
ctesibiusulpiusI'll keep it clean02:03
skkeeperlol02:03
skkeeperok02:03
ctesibiusulpiusis there a kubuntu-amd64 channel?02:03
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klobsterbradsnet: did you do this DISABLED_MODULES="nv nvidia_new"02:04
skkeeperi installed second life... well the instalation crashed.. so i closed it...later i figure it that my synaptic doesnt open anymore... just pop out second life wasnt installed because it cant find its repository02:04
skkeeperand closes02:04
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halohunterhello02:04
sash__hello02:04
bradsnetklobster: No, because it said to only do that if you have... uh, whatever it says, installed. I made sure it wasn't installed and didn't do that.02:04
sash__^^02:04
ctesibiusulpiusyou know, this will make the second distro in two days I've just formatted over02:04
skkeeper:-(02:05
klobsterbradsnet: ok, good, but if you uninstall the restricted drivers, is nv even installed at that point?02:05
bradsnetHeck if I know.02:05
halohunteris namol on02:05
bradsnetI don't know what they are. I'm just following instructions.02:05
bradsnetI've used kubuntu for only an hour or so longer than I've had this issue.02:06
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bradsnetI used to use freebsd a while back... but that knowledge is pretty much useless except basic commands and such.02:07
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bradsnetMost of these instructions seem to expect you to be at least a little psychic.02:07
TraXDoes anybody know if Mono could be used to develop linux apps?02:07
klobsterbradsnet: an hour!?! way to go for the big issues02:07
bradsnetYeah, tell me about it.02:07
klobsterTraX: can and is02:07
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bradsnetSadly that hour was spent installing and configuring other things.02:08
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TraXIs it command line or could I do it right from MonoDevelop?02:08
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klobsterbradsnet: heh.  ok, well I guess you need to apt-get install nvidia-glx to get the nv driver back02:09
TraXRight now it only compiles for windows02:09
bradsnetThat doesn't seem right.02:10
bradsnetnvidia-glx isn't nv.02:10
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klobsterTraX: mono is in the repos02:10
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bradsnetDo you think I would have any different experience in ubuntu? All the instructions seem to be written for ubuntu, not kubuntu...02:12
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bradsnetAt the same time, I know the desktop manager is independent of X, and it's X with the issue... but the people saying it worked are all using ubuntu.02:13
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Anonymousguyi've a problem whit my graphics card02:13
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bradsnetMe too.02:13
Anonymousguyanybody can help me?02:13
bradsnetIs it an nvidia card?02:14
Myrwhat kimd of card is it02:14
Anonymousguyno, is a integrated card, is a VIA card02:14
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Myrwhats hte problem?02:14
bradsnetWhat is the issue?02:14
seaTheres a bug in Konversation02:14
TraXbradsnet: What video card are you running?02:15
scheater5Does anyone know about the state of the real time kernel in the gusty repos?02:15
bradsnetnvidia geforce 6800 go ultra02:15
bradsnetAnd yes I installed the binary drivers.02:15
Anonymousguythe resolution that Kubuntu displays is lower than it support02:15
bradsnetAnd followed the links on the howto and did that stuff.02:15
screamxanyone kno how to setup steam with wine i cant get it to wirk all the way02:16
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bradsnetHmm, I saw something about the resolution...02:16
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bradsnet!resolution02:16
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:16
TraXscreamx: Did you install the font?02:16
klobsterbradsnet: sorry, making dinner for my daughter.  I meant sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`02:16
klobsterI cut and pasted the the wrong line02:17
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Anonymousguyand in the prefferences settings i dont reconfig the resolution, because the graphic card that Kubuntu recognize is different02:17
bradsnetRunning sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh may fix that, you can select the appropriate driver, then "check" the resolutions you need it to support.02:18
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AnonymousguyThat recognize that i have a 'vesa' card an a 'plug n' play' monitor02:18
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bradsnetThough, you might not want to listen to me I seem to break video settings.02:18
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klobsterbradsnet: brb.  btw, did you try the older version?02:19
bradsnetOf what? nvidia-glx-legacy?02:19
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sash__hellow again guy's how change my graphic card driver. cant set to display parameters!02:20
Anonymousguythanks very much02:21
bradsnetThis may or may not work for you: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh02:21
Anonymousguybroadsnet02:21
bradsnetsure02:21
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klobsterthere isn't a difference between ubuntu and kubuntu as far as this is concerned; we haven't even got to a point in the loader where it would be different02:21
bradsnetklobster: Yeah, that's what I said...02:21
klobsterbradsnet: no, the older version I mailed you.02:22
bradsnetWhat do I know though?02:22
bradsnetoh, you mailed it?02:22
klobsteryeah, but i wasn't sure if you still had the livecd up or not02:22
bradsnetlooks like I already had that stuff installed you sent me a minute ago.02:23
bradsnetI do, I just rebooted to check that though, heh.02:23
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bradsnetI gotta go to the grocery store in a few... so I think I have to stop for now.02:23
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bradsnetMaybe I'll reinstall kubuntu again, and try each of these instructions from scratch.02:24
TECKBWanybody that can help with pppoe setup for adsl connection...there  is more than one Access Concentrator, and I would like to specify which one to use .... is this possible and how02:24
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bradsnetI guess now I know not to install a bunch of software THEN try to get drivers working.02:25
TECKBWI use pppoeconf to setup, but when it dials, pppoeconf says that invalid username02:25
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bradsnetklobster: The one thing I'm pretty confident of is that if I do reinstall I can get nv working again.02:26
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klobsterbradsnet: also, it shouldn't make a difference, but grep Load /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if dri is commented out, or not02:26
klobsterbradsnet: thats true02:26
bradsnetdri is not commented out.02:27
TECKBWthe username and password provided work on windows box, so it's all got to do with Access Concentrator, do I add a line to the dsl-provider file in /etc/ppp/peers/02:27
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TECKBWand what would the line be??02:27
bradsnetSorry teck, wish I knew.02:28
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klobsterdri should be commented out when running the nvidia drivers02:28
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klobstersorry, my daughter is having a meltdown, I gotta go.02:29
bradsnetThanks for trying.02:29
bradsnetI'll see what that does.02:29
TECKBWbradsnet-->many ppl stay with windows because of an issue with pppoe connections on linux, I am lucky as I have wifi router doing the dialing but am not always at home so need a way to connect via pppoe02:29
TECKBWanyone else that may have a clue02:29
bradsnetGoodnight.02:30
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anthronautTECKBW: I used to have issued with pppoe, but I haven't used a ppp connection for _years_...02:30
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teguhhi my brother in all the world02:40
s_hiya people02:41
s_anyone know good place for oki drivers for linux02:41
s_?02:41
s_I have an oki c3300n, cant find a driver listed, been to linux-printing.org02:41
s_no joy02:41
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Q-collectives_: what is an oki?02:42
s_its a colour laser printer02:42
s_www.oki.co.uk02:43
s_or www.okidata.com02:43
Q-collectiveah02:43
s_Ive even tried sharing a windows driver on a windows box, I expect driver to come over or at least be visable, but no joy02:43
NickPresta!enter | s_02:44
ubotus_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!02:44
s_k dude02:44
elite101hello i need help02:44
elite101with something02:44
elite101its Ndiswrapper02:45
NickPrestaelite101, hi. What seems to be the problem?02:45
elite101lol02:45
NickPrestalol02:45
ArwenUnder Linux I can't increase the priority of a process without being root?02:45
Q-collectives_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35883802:45
elite101its not my problem its my friends he is switching to kubuntu and has a dlink and he needs to install Ndiswrapper through a tarball because the Dlink is his internetsource so he cant dowload it threw adpet *takes abreath*02:45
Q-collectiveseems your odds are against02:46
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elite101now he has the Tarball and i dont know how to install things from a tarrball02:46
andersinAwen: Yes, and for a good reason: You do not want to starve the processes that are more important02:46
elite101how do you install Ndiswrapper from a tarrball?02:46
fkmelite101: Why didn't he just download the .deb file?02:46
elite101lol02:47
elite101well you see02:47
elite101nvm...where?02:47
elite101where is the debian file?02:47
fkmGive me a min02:47
andersinAwen: so you cannot simply increase your priority02:47
s_thats the trouble, I looked on usual places, and cant see one for download02:47
elite101okay thanks fkm, i never used Ndiswrapper b4 and i want him to switch to kubuntu02:47
elite101i got him into linux :D02:48
NickPrestaI want to use libmtp 0.2.1 in Feisty. Where can I get the deb of libmtp 0.2.1 (for Gutsy)?02:49
hydrogenjust install ndiswrapper-utils02:49
hydrogenin adept02:49
hydrogenor with aptitude02:49
elite101lol he doesnt have internet02:49
hydrogengutsy deb's will most likely not work on feisty due to the toolchainges02:49
hydrogenoh :)02:49
elite101lol02:50
fkmelite101: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ <-- Should be the one02:50
elite101so apt-get is outta the picture02:50
BluesKajelite101, what is the tarball's file xtn  .gz or bz2 ?02:50
NickPrestahydrogen, what do you suggest? libmtp 0.1.3 is quite old and it doesn't work with my device.02:50
elite101thanks fkm,02:50
elite101tar,gz02:50
hydrogen!info libmtp02:50
ubotuPackage libmtp does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas02:50
NickPrestalibmtp502:50
NickPresta!info libmtp502:50
hydrogen!info libmtp602:50
ubotulibmtp5: Implementation of Microsoft's MTP. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1.3-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 90 kB, installed size 312 kB02:50
ubotuPackage libmtp6 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas02:50
hydrogenhmm02:50
fkmelite101: Just be aware that ndiswrapper is not the best way to go. I used it with a D-Link PCMCIA card. I can't really be sure. But I think it slowed down my system02:51
elite101fkm, errr wich one do i download? he has a 32bit i386 kubuntu 7.04 fiesty02:51
hydrogen!info libmtp5 feisty-backports02:51
elite101lol02:51
ubotuPackage libmtp5 does not exist in feisty-backports02:51
BluesKajelite101, tar -xvzf filname.tar.gz , then look in the file that's generated and you'll find a reame and an install text file , and follow the instructions02:51
hydrogenthere goes that hope :)02:51
elite101is there an alternative to ndiswraooer02:51
elite101wrapper*02:51
BluesKajreadme file02:51
hydrogenelite101: are there no native linux drivers for his card?02:51
elite101err i hate doing work for other people02:52
elite101no02:52
hydrogenthen there is no alternative02:52
elite101its a Dlink DWLG32 its a usb one02:52
fkmId say: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-common_1.43-1ubuntu2_all.deb and http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9_1.43-1ubuntu2_i386.deb02:52
elite101okay thanks02:52
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hydrogenremember you also need the windows driver package02:52
NickPrestahydrogen, I'm going to see if I can get libmtp6 working in feisty. The only thing that depends on libmtp5 is amarok and libmtp5-dev. I'm going to remove them and try my luck with libmtp6. Does that sound like it should work or are you certain it won't?02:52
Q-collectiveBluesKaj: actually, since tar 1.15 you don't need to explicitly say with what protocol to untar anymore. So tar xvf does the trick in any case.02:52
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BluesKajerr elite101 . I know the feeling ..there are tutorials in the ubuntu forums that talk you thru tar installs02:53
hydrogenNickPresta: I'm not positive one way or the other.. however the package has been built with a whole different version of gcc against a different glibc02:53
elite101yeah but he is dumb02:53
elite101err i hate doing this02:53
elite101man this sucks stupid wireles02:53
hydrogenyou can try, and if it doesn't work you could always try compiling it from scratch and installing to /usr/local02:54
BluesKajQ-collective, well ok but i doubt any harm is done02:54
fkmHeheh :)02:54
NickPrestahydrogen, okay. If I decide to compile libmtp6 on my own, how would I get m system to recognize it and such? /usr/local/libmtp6?02:54
hydrogenassuming its a normal package02:54
Q-collectiveelite101: basically: apt-get install build-essentials, untar the tarball, cd into directory, ./configure && make, sudo make install02:54
hydrogenyou would just ./configure --prefix=/usr/local02:54
Q-collectivedone02:54
elite101lolo okay and how do i get the card working?02:54
elite101it just does it automatically?02:55
NickPrestahydrogen, libmtp5 is in /usr/lib. Should I move the .a/la/so files there?02:55
hydrogenNickPresta: no.. in theory /usr/local/lib should be in your LD_LIBRARY_PATH alreadyh02:55
hydrogennot sure about that though :)02:55
elite101i have no clue what to do02:55
NickPrestahydrogen, ah okay. Thanks02:55
fkmelite101: WLAN is nice. I've just never gotten the thing to work properly. Even with the integrated WLAN card in my Thinkpad T60 (with native drivers) I can only connect to the network when I'm in close proximity to the accesspoint...02:55
elite101mhm i should tell him to f*ck it and get Wired internet02:56
elite101:D02:56
fkmHeheh. Tell him that it's much faster ;) Just don't mention that this is only within his LAN ;)02:56
seaTHE ANSWER IS 4202:56
elite101lol02:56
fkmHeheh02:56
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TECKBWanyone else have any ideas to sort out the pppoe issue ...(needing to specify Access Concentrator)02:56
elite101he lives in an apt with wireless02:57
swirrelhi everyone have a webcam5 ? this one : http://i.play.tm/s/130/g/150/1.jpg? NEED help with it...02:57
elite101:D durr his sisters boyfriend dont know jack about computers02:57
TraXBut what is the question sea?02:57
elite101there rooms are rite beside eachother02:57
seaThe question is : "What is the ultimate answer?"02:57
sash__i m download a ati driver on ati.amd.com host. but cant control this graph card how remove this driver / driver name :ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_6402:58
fkmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Answer_to_Life,_the_Universe,_and_Everything02:58
elite101yes02:58
elite101thanks02:58
elite101i will give that to him02:58
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TECKBWno one here using pppoe to connect to the internet???02:59
U238Willythere are instructions for ndiswrapper.. i remember there were two commands after compiling..02:59
NickPrestahydrogen, now I have libmtp6 in /usr/local/lib and when I tried to install amarok again, libmtp5 is installed. How do I use libmtp6 instead of libmtp5?02:59
NickPrestaaw =(02:59
NickPrestalol02:59
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elite101i need a tutorial for ndiswrapper so this windows user can use Linux instead of getting screwed over my Microshaft XD03:00
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U238Willyforgive me, but, this was on a suse machine at the time.. there were to commands.. ndiswrapper -l and i think ndiswrapper -m03:01
U238Willy*two03:01
TECKBWi take it that no one uses pppoe to connect to the internet!!03:01
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elite101NO03:02
elite101WE DONT LIKE dsl/dial-up xD03:02
U238Willythe first was to see if  ndiswrapper had 'wrapped' the driver file.. and the second to place the wrapped driver into the bootup configurations.03:03
TECKBWso how would one connect to the internet???  when cable and wireless is not available?03:03
U238Willythere might have been a third.. ndiswrapper -i03:03
arctanxTECKBW: carrier pigeons03:03
U238Willyfor info on ndiswrapper.03:03
TECKBWlol03:03
arctanxTECKBW: don't laugh, it's been done03:03
elite101!ndiswrapper03:04
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:04
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arctanxTECKBW: http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/03:04
TECKBWi may be a noob, but hell not backwards03:04
elite101hey03:04
elite101i got one more question03:04
TECKBWarctanx thanks for the link, will b checking it out03:04
arctanxnp03:04
elite101My friends Dlink does not have any power going to it at all in Network manager or anything like Kubuntu isnt powering it on will ndiswrapper even work? it wont turn on without the proper driver? how will you install a driver to a device thats not there? and power it on? can you tell me that my friend is screwed and to tell him to go to wired :D please03:05
TECKBWlooks like i have to eat my hat....lol....didn't think it was a protocol03:06
elite101yes i told him he was screwed03:08
elite101no more help from me :D i told him to get wired and that i will drill the holes in his walls myself03:08
BluesKajwell, I sure hope gutsy 7.10 is more ATI friendly than the x86 version i just tried to install ...no X ! The 64bit version went ok but the email program in kontact is just too clunky and as far as konq goes as browser , there needs plenty of work to speed up loading on encrypted sites ...it was terrbly slow , despite disabling Ipv6.03:09
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erov... only 1 of my 4 processors is being discovered.. i knew something was up >:(03:10
NickPrestaHow can I get amarok to use a compiled libmtp6 over libmtp5? Do I need to compile my own version of amarok?03:11
elite101erov, only 4? i have 8 :D its a quad/quad MOBO03:12
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BluesKajwhich version NickPresta ?03:12
NickPrestaI'm on Feisty and I needed libmtp6. I compiled libmtp6 myself but I also have libmtp5 installed (it's an amarok dependency).03:13
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BluesKajof amarok ?03:14
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NickPresta1.4.703:14
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teguh sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  is freeze how to repair my linux in konsole03:18
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teguhand my adept crash hi brother help yahhhh03:21
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elite101!adeptfix | teguh03:21
ubotuteguh: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:21
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|neon|? is it safe to use ttrevinos sources?03:22
michaelcan someone help me with an ati x1200 problem?03:22
elite101sorry if that was already said i just came back03:22
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elite101holy problems03:22
elite101micheal, i can ditch the ATI and but a NVidia :D03:23
r0ck3t3ranyone rememeber the game pirates gold?03:23
elite101nope03:23
teguh sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  if i use this command my konsole is freesh for along time03:24
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michaelelite101, i have nvidia on my desktop but my laptop has an integrated x1200  :(03:24
elite101Shhh....03:24
r0ck3t3rtoo bad, your all missing out03:24
elite101lol03:24
BluesKajr0ck3t3r, this a kubuntu support channel ...want games ..google it03:24
elite101i know i have to problems you know why03:24
elite101Im running off the livecd03:24
elite101i have no HDD03:25
r0ck3t3rlol03:25
michaelhas anyone gotten kubuntu feisty installed with an x1200 ati card?03:25
r0ck3t3rok how to get flash to work on a amd64, that thread i read dont work03:25
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BluesKajr0ck3t3r, if you want youtube towork on amd64 , try swiftfox browser03:28
BluesKajand make sure you have java-common and j2re1.4 installed03:29
ve6ahow can i run a program in another languager other then the default one03:29
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BluesKajas well as the flashplugin-nonfree03:30
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sanzanricawn rocks!!!!03:31
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teguhubotu -> sudo fuser not work03:31
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BluesKajve6a, system settings/regional&language/select system language03:33
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ve6ai want to run once03:33
modjohi, i have one question03:34
modjoregarding firefox java plugin03:34
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ve6aBluesKaj: i want to run once from konsole or alt + f203:36
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modjoanybody had that type of troubles?03:36
BluesKajmodjo, what's your question?03:37
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raymondis there a way to manually configure sound like there is to reconfigure X03:38
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BrightEyes`anyone help me make my tv card work? when i "lspci" i get 02:07.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)03:41
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iskaldurhi, my graphics card right now is an intel gma 3100, and compiz fusion doesn't really work too well on it...any suggestions on a graphics card that works well with kubuntu and compiz fusion? im looking for something pretty cheap, and i don't do graphics intensive stuff like games or anything...i just want compiz fusion working :)03:43
modjoblueskaj03:43
BluesKajhere , modjo03:43
modjoi want to view apps in java on mozilla, but doesnt seems to work, i have tried many things to configure it correctly03:43
modjoand i do see java apps in konqueror working03:44
modjobut not in mozilla03:44
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modjoany toughts?03:45
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BluesKajmodjo, have you considered firefox ?03:46
modjoim using firefox, my java plug in doesnt work for firefox03:46
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tekstacy'lo all03:47
MarcChow do I add a binary software package like Sauerbraten to my system so I can run it from anywhere?03:47
BluesKajdo you have java-common and j2re1.4 , modjo ?03:47
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modjoim not sure due to many thins i added03:48
modjolemme check03:48
tekstacySomehow I "lost" the KNetworkManager icon from my system tray. How do I get it back?03:48
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ubuntuI need help, O03:48
ubuntuI'm on kubuntu live, and i need to get some files off of my hard drive03:48
NickPrestatekstacy, right click > Add Applet > find knetworkmanager03:48
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modjotekstacy just use katapult03:48
ubuntui get this error: hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 99903:48
modjoand launch it again03:48
NickPrestatekstacy, oh. I was thinking of knetload. sorry about that03:49
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modjoblueskaj: youre right, i dont hhave j2re1.403:49
tekstacyHow does Katapuly work?03:50
inaetywhatexactly is katapult03:50
tekstacyer Katapult03:50
NickPresta!info katapult03:50
modjotekstace pres CTRL + spacebar03:50
ubotukatapult: item launcher for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.1.4-0ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 326 kB, installed size 2956 kB03:50
modjoand type knetwork03:50
inaetyso katapult = alt+f2?03:50
BluesKajmodjo, I'm not sure that will solve your prob, but it did for me03:50
Biovorekatapult should be alt-space03:51
modjobluskaj theress j2re1.4 and j2re1.4 mozilla plug in03:51
kubuntu-live-halHi, I'm running Kubuntu live and the board is on the fritz, I luckliy got it to POST but I can't access the Windows 2000 hard drive. I get this error when mounting. hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 99903:51
modjoim gonna install the mozilla plug in03:51
Biovoreinaety: shift space.. then type in am03:51
Biovore(alt space)03:51
anonymousguyhey, i tried to modify my video config and now i can't see anything when i boot Kubuntu, until the command prompt, what i need to do?03:51
inaetydang kansas state...03:51
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modjodownloading03:52
anonymousguyi'm running the live CD03:52
inaetyBiovore: just predicts it for ya03:52
anonymousguybut in need to solve that03:52
Biovoreyup.. you can also type in number and it acts like a calculator03:52
inaetyanonymousguy: if you are just running the livecd just restart your computer03:52
anonymousguyno, you understand me03:52
inaetyanonymousguy: you installed kubuntu, but it doesnt start, so you know you put in the cd?03:53
kubuntu-live-hali think he is running on live cd because he messed up his video config03:53
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inaetyerr what was the xorgconfig thing for ubuntu03:53
modjoblueskaj: installing...03:54
anonymousguyi was trying to modify my graphic card config, but when i restart the x server i can't see amything, until the command prompt03:54
anonymousguyand now i'm running the live cd trying to solve that03:54
modjotesting03:55
anonymousguykubuntu-live-hal: you're right03:55
tekstacysomeone type my nick please.....03:55
TraXtekstacy:03:56
inaetyanonymousguy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:56
inaetyand then configure it03:56
modjoblueskaj03:56
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modjonope didnt work, but now theres something a little bit different03:56
BluesKajtekstacy03:56
tekstacythanks, vocal works now...03:56
anonymousguyok, i'll try that, but i need to restart, thanx03:56
michaelcan someone help me with a video card issue?03:57
modjotheres an app in java with the X03:57
inaetyanonymousguy: okay03:57
tekstacyKatapult is alt-space, but what do I do with it then?03:57
inaetytekstacy: type something!03:57
modjotekstace: type knetwork03:57
modjoand then ENTER03:57
BluesKajmodjo, in the browser addressbar type about:plugins ...check what's installed03:57
anonymousguyanyone know if this sever has a spanish-speak channel03:58
tekstacyOk, I beleive it is running, but it still isn't showing in the tray. any ideas?03:58
Biovore!es03:58
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:58
modjoblueskaj theres a lot of thing installed03:59
anonymousguygracias03:59
modjoJava(TM) Plug-in Blackdown-1.4.2-0203:59
modjoJava(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0-b10503:59
Biovorewhy use blackdown..  use sun's03:59
BluesKajflash ?03:59
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modjoalso but i dont thinks its relevant03:59
modjoShockwave Flash04:00
modjoFile name: libflashplayer.so04:00
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BluesKajflashplugin-nonfree..think i already mentioned that tho04:00
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modjoi dont understand you, i do have the flash plugin04:01
modjosuffix swl and spl04:01
BluesKajthe nonfree version04:01
modjoi dont have that04:02
modjodo i neet ir?04:02
modjoit?04:02
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BluesKajyes04:03
BluesKajflashplugin-nonfree04:04
modjowait lemme request it04:04
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modjoblueskaj: testing04:06
penbaHi. How could I go about configuring xorg for a monitor that has been rotated 270 or 90 degrees?04:06
MarcCyou just add the xrandrotate or whatever it's called to xorg.conf, then the pref is inside configuration when you restart X04:07
modjoit WORKED!!!!04:07
penbathanks04:07
BluesKajglad to hear it , modjo :)04:08
modjoblueskaj: it worked, but i also downloaded some more things i wound quering with mozilla in adept manager04:08
modjothaks a lot for the support04:08
BluesKajur welcome :)04:09
modjotalk you laters :D take care :D04:09
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tekstacyA?nyone know how to restore my KNetworkManager to the system tray04:11
flaccidtekstacy: run the program knetworkmanager04:11
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Aondo***MEMORY-ERROR***: firestarter[3020] : GSlice: assertion failed: sinfo->n_allocated > 0, doesnt sound good :P04:11
michaelcan anyone help me with ati x1200?04:11
tekstacyit doesn't do anything. It is already running04:11
wersfor k3b, what package do I install to have the mp3 decoder plugin04:11
flaccid!ati | michael04:11
ubotumichael: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:11
wers!mp304:12
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:12
flaccidtekstacy: ah well04:12
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tekstacythanks anyway though.04:12
michaelubotu: i dont think they could help me, my problem is that i cant install ubuntu feisty cause of my video card... it cant load x server04:12
flaccidtekstacy: i would help further, but there are numerous problems with knetworkmanager/networkmanager . is your network working?04:13
tekstacyyup04:13
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michaellol ubotu's a bot04:13
flaccidtekstacy: that condition seems to be common04:13
tekstacyIs there something BETTER then KNetwork?04:13
flaccidtekstacy: do you have wireless?04:13
tekstacyyes04:14
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tekstacySeems to be conected04:14
flaccidum knetworkmanager is actually the best04:14
flaccidwhen it works04:14
ArkardHola a todos04:14
flaccid!info kwireless04:14
ubotuPackage kwireless does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas04:14
ArkardHi everybody04:14
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erz-just a question, i'm formating a primary partition (windows xp) for installing kubuntu (10g), i have a second logic partition on the same disk. Could i read data on it after formating the primary partition ? thx :  )04:14
flaccidcan't remember the other ones, but they are not any better. knetworkmanager is just a frontend to networkmanager but there are lots of issues04:14
Arkardi need some help please04:15
flaccidtekstacy: i think there is knetworkstats if you want just an icon04:15
Arkardi want to install an Nvidia MX 400004:15
ArkardBut i cant close the X server04:15
Arkardcan anybody help me plz04:15
flaccidArkard: ctrl + alt + bckspc to kill X04:15
michaelif i install a video card driver for edgy do i have to install a new one if i upgrade to feisty?04:16
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Arkardlet me try plz04:16
MarcCmichael, probably not especially if you use drivers from the repos04:16
flaccid!find knetstats04:16
ubotuFound: knetstats04:17
flaccidtekstacy: http://knetstats.sourceforge.net/04:17
flaccid!info knetstats04:17
ubotuknetstats: network interfaces monitor for KDE's systray. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 105 kB, installed size 596 kB04:17
flaccidits a monitor only04:17
erz-i'm not sure about the abilities to read a ntfs locgical partition04:17
flacciderz-: ability exists04:17
erz-i dont want to loose the 180Gb of data on the second partition04:17
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michaelMarcC, do i need a certain repo? i have an x1200 card and i cant install feisty on it (x server wont load) so i have to install edgy04:18
erz-thats just 10Gb 8 for system 2 for swap and keep my data04:18
wersI have installed libxine1-ffmpeg but I still cannot burn mp3s04:19
flacciderz-: np04:20
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tekstacyknetstats looks cool, I will use it, thanks flaccid04:20
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flaccidcool04:21
erz-flaccid: in fact i have to format the 10gb before creating / & swap ?04:21
flaccid!format04:21
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter04:21
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ArkardIm back04:21
ArkardSorry but ctrl + alt + backspace is for restart04:22
flaccidif you are installing erz- use the installer program it not use qtparted to create new parts/fs04:22
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flaccidArkard: what do you want to do04:22
Arkardclose the X server04:22
flaccidsudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop from a tty04:23
Arkardi need it to install a Video Card04:23
flaccidyou usually turn off the computer to put a video card in04:23
Arkardwhat is a tty, sorry i just start in Linux a few days ago04:23
erz-i have just only a kubuntu edgy cd, my dvdwiter jus died04:23
flaccidArkard: hold ctrl + alt + f204:23
Arkardah, right04:23
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Arkardand then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop04:24
ArkardK, let me try04:24
michaelmy live cd wont boot to xserver on my laptop. can someone help?04:25
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erz-i fear :q04:25
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awakeXD04:25
BluesKajmichael , which cd ?04:26
BluesKajversion04:26
michaelfeisty04:26
erz-flaccid: i dont understand well your answer i have to use the Kubuntu installer ?04:26
flacciderz-: what exactly are you doing04:27
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michaelBluesKaj: feisty doesnt work but edgy boots up though. i think its a video card problem. i have ati x120004:27
erz-i want to format my ntfs primary partition and wont loose data on the logical disk...04:28
MarcCmichael: you can use the VESA driver if you just need X. It's much easier to get full graphics card support after you've installed the distro to your HD.04:28
elite101Hey i just went out and bought 2 Nvidia's 8800GTX (im on my PCI card) and it has the SLI clip on them but how do i set it up on kubuntu for both of them to work?04:28
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flacciderz-: use qtparted and format it. any filesystem you format will loose all data on that partition, but the other partitions will remain intact04:28
elite101:P obv im just kidding04:29
michaelMarcC: im new to this. i have only used envy to install driver but it didnt work this time. do i install edgy then vesa from repo then try to update?04:29
tekstacyscrew it, I'll just keep stealing the neighbor's wireless for the night....04:29
BluesKajok, the ati cards have been a prob (I have one too) with some kubuntus , it's kinda hit or miss ...wasn't able to use the latest gutsy x86 , but the 64bit version worked.04:29
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erz-i cant use qtparted cause i have just one cd with edgy and my dvd-writer died :D04:29
michaelBluesKaj, what ati card u have. i might try the 64 bit version then04:30
flacciderz-: use the edgy cd. all you have to do is install the qtparted package04:30
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BluesKajmichael ,on board X200G...but i don't recommend the 64 bit version, it's not ready for prime time04:32
BluesKajI reverted back to x86 fiesty04:32
Arwencan anyone recommend a system monitor app? On GNOME I had Gkrellm, is there something like that for KDE?04:33
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flaccid!ksysguard04:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ksysguard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:34
flaccid!info ksysguard04:34
ubotuksysguard: system guard for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20.2 (feisty), package size 508 kB, installed size 1596 kB04:34
Arwenno, not ksysguard04:34
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flaccidwhat do you want to monitor?04:34
Arwensomething that floats around on my desktop04:34
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flaccidum there are some, can't remember their names sorry04:34
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ArwenCPU usage, memory, net usage, stuff like that04:34
erz-its done i'm installing... well i well see =). I have kde on the laptop and i want to try xfce. What i have to do first upgrade to feisty or moving to xfce ?04:34
ArkardIm back again04:35
ArkardThis is a Headache04:35
tekstacyok, I don't have the learning time in my life for this. I'm going back to XP04:35
Arkardso, at last i can close the X server04:36
Arkardbut i cant install the Driver04:36
ArkardTell me something about i dont have kernel04:36
Arkardor something like that04:36
Arkardcan anybody help me again T_T?04:36
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Arkarda little help please T_T04:38
TraXArkard: What driver/card?04:39
MarcCmichael: the way I do it is, I install from the CD, then get at least vesa working (you don't need to install vesa, just type it in under the driver name or select it in the x configurator). Then I run Envy or ideally install nvidia-glx from synaptic (I have nvidia).04:39
ArkardNvidia GForce MX 400004:39
TraXWhich nvidia driver are you trying to install?04:40
BluesKajEnvy works on fiesty ?04:40
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Arkardlet me see04:40
Arkardone i downloaded from Nvidia website04:41
Arkardis suppose to be a Linux Driver04:41
Arkardis .run04:41
Biovoreyup..04:41
TraXWhat problem are you having exactly04:41
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flacciderz-: just install the xfce package04:41
BiovoreArkard: to install that version of the nvidia driver you will need to install the following packages..  build-essential and kernel-headers04:42
flacciderz-: probably install xubuntu-desktop04:42
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erz-and remove kubuntu-desktop ?04:42
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michaelMarcC, what do u mean by just type it in under the driver name or select it in the x configurator?04:42
Biovoreerz-: you can have both :-)04:42
flacciderz-: have both. select which one you want on login screen for desktop environment04:42
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erz-i have low space :)04:43
flaccidim on a livecd heh coz my hdd is broken heh04:44
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MarcCmichael: when you install Ubuntu it's got an X-server configuration utility, you just tell it to use vesa if you can't get your video card driver to work. Failing that, you can just type "vesa" in xorg.conf under the driver name.04:46
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Arkardsorry TraX, i was DC for a moment04:47
TraXArkard: S'ok, what exact problem is the NVIDIA binary giving you right now>?04:48
michaelMarcC, sorry for being noobish but how do i find out what driver to get out of synaptic for radeon x120004:48
Arkardthat i dont have kernel or something like that04:48
Arkardthat cant found the kernel04:48
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TraXArkard: sudo apt-get install build-essential04:48
TraXArkard: sudo apt-get install kernel-headers04:49
flaccidshould follow the wiki for this Arkard04:49
Arkardlet me try04:49
flaccidmichael: fglrx probably04:49
flaccid!ati | michael04:49
ubotumichael: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:49
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wckdkl0wnwhat would i use to convert xvid to dvd in kubuntu?04:51
flaccid!dvdauthoring04:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvdauthoring - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:52
TraXwckdkl0wn: DeVeDe04:52
flaccidwckdkl0wn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DVDAuthoring?highlight=%28dvd%2904:53
BluesKajtovid04:53
flaccidoptions on that page04:53
Arkardi cant download the kernel-headers TraX04:53
flaccidwckdkl0wn: also see if any of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=dvd&titlesearch=Titles are of any use04:54
michaelflaccid, can i install fglrx from the repos or do i have to do all the command line work?04:55
flaccidmichael: either04:55
raynerdguys, noob question - when I install a program, where does it show up?04:55
raynerdi.e where can i access it from?04:55
michaelso i just click on fglrx from the repo and thats it?04:56
raynerdI`ve installed gchemical, but cant see it to open it anywhere04:56
flaccidmichael: you will need to configure X to use that drive once its installed04:56
sumguy231raynerd: Try using KAppfinder, it finds new applications and lets you add them to the K menu04:56
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flaccidraynerd: probably need to run the command gchemical04:57
michaelflaccid, how do i do that. sorry, im a noob04:57
flaccidmichael: please follow the wiki, thats what it is there for04:57
raynerdin terminal?04:57
flaccidArkard: maybe its sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`04:57
flaccidraynerd: or from kmenu | run04:58
michaelill give it a try04:58
sumguy231raynerd: I should also mention that if you want to add it to the menu manually you can right-click on the k menu button and click' menu editor'.04:58
raynerdsunguy: will try04:58
raynerdwhats K menu ?04:59
sumguy231The main menu, with a K on it.04:59
sumguy231on the button I mean04:59
Arkardflaccid what is `uname -r`?04:59
TraXArkard: Go to console and type uname -r05:00
sumguy231Arkard - it's a command that displays your kernel version. the backticks insert it into the apt-get command so to speak05:00
raynerdahhh bummer , i`m in kbuntu , im running edubuntu05:00
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flaccidArkard: kernel version05:00
flaccidi have to go, cyas05:00
encomhola05:00
sumguy231raynerd: Err, which desktop are you using? Could you clarify a bit? If it's Gnome you can still edit the menu with alacarte.05:00
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encomhola05:00
Arkardit says 2.6.20-15-38605:00
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Arkardque onda encom05:01
encomhola pana y o de venezuela05:01
encomtesteandeubuntu05:01
encomOSEA MI PRUIMERA VEZ EN LINUX  JEJEJE05:01
Arkardah05:01
raynerdsumguy231: i`m running edubuntu but not sure which desktop interface!! i`m new, only installed yesterday and learning05:01
encomARKARD05:01
Arkardstill cant download that header05:01
encomDE DODNDE ERES05:02
Arkardencom, permiteme que tengo problemas para instalar mi tarjeta de video05:02
Arkardsoy de Nicaragua05:02
encomOK05:02
encomBIEN05:02
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sumguy231raynerd: what does it look like? If there are applications, places, and system menus it's gnome. If there's a K it's kde.05:02
sumguy231And I'm back.05:03
michaelor not05:03
Arkardi read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto but did not help05:03
encomUNA PREG PARA CUANDETSES  DESOCUPADO  ARKAD05:04
raynerdsumguy231: it GNOME then05:04
Arkardclaro05:04
encomTENGO  UN  USB  WIRELES   LINKSIS05:04
ArkardTraX this is a big Problem or im very stupid05:04
raynerdso just added loads of software but cant see any of it05:04
sumguy231Press alt+f2 and run 'alacarte'. This will let you edit the menu and add an entry for whatever you installed. I'm sure there's a nice way to do it like with kappfinder, but I don't use Gnome so I wouldn't know. If you want mroe gnome help try #ubuntu05:04
encomY BUENO COMO SOY NUEVO    EN LINUX05:05
raynerdok cheers05:05
TraXArkard: It's a very annoying problem, I'm looking up the exact syntax you need to get this going05:05
sumguy231or #edubuntu05:05
encomQ PROGRAMA ME RECOMIENDAS05:05
ArkardThanks TraX05:05
sumguy231alright, I'll be back later.05:05
ArkardPrograma de que?05:05
encomQ MANEJE05:05
encomEL WIFI05:05
ArkardMmmm, desde linux Supongo05:06
encomSIP05:06
ArkardPermiteme, ya te digo05:06
encomLEY POR ALLI Q HAY UNO Q DESBLOQUEA LAS SENALES Q ESTN EN WEP05:06
encomOK05:06
Biovore!es05:06
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:06
Arkardencom kwifimanager05:07
Arkardwifi-radar05:07
encomOK05:07
encomOK OTRA CISITA  MAS05:08
encomAVECES BAJO  UN PROGRAMA Y  NO SE COMO INSTALARLO05:08
encomTODOS LOS PROGRAMAS DE LINUX05:08
Arkardmira, hay un programa que se llama Adept05:08
encomSE INSTALAN POR CONSOLA05:08
Arkardesta en sistema05:08
Arkardahi busca adept05:08
encomOK05:09
Arkardy desde ahi instalas todo de manera facil05:09
ArkardHey TraX, have to go for now05:09
DrWilcockno para todos05:09
Arkardcan you send me an email?05:09
TraXArkard: I just found it05:10
Arkardreally?05:10
Arkardtell me05:10
TraXArkard: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736805:10
Arkardim going to save it an readi it later, thanks TraX05:10
Arkardencom, me voy05:10
Arkardte veo luego05:10
encomOK GRACIAS05:11
TraXArkard: Hasta luego05:11
encomMAN05:11
encomESE ADEP Q HACE05:11
TraXArkard: Be sure to read it, it will help a lot05:11
ArkardK, thanks again05:11
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encomALGUIEN  Q ME DIGA  Q HACE EL ADEPT05:13
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encomHOLA05:15
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encomALGUIEN AQUI05:16
encomHEYYYYYYYYYYYY05:16
encomI NEED HELP05:17
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encomHOLA05:18
encomHOLA05:19
encomHELP05:19
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NickPresta!patience | encom05:20
ubotuencom: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines05:20
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bionichow do you use john the ripper05:21
encomOK  THNAKS  UBOTU05:22
milardovichjtr suks :S05:22
milardovichit gives u a lot of "possible ways"05:22
milardovichand no one is the right :P05:22
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encom   K05:25
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bioniccan someoen tell me how tot install and use john the ripper05:32
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seaHow do I put sourceforge on synaptic?05:35
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erz-lol i go in 1280x1024 and nothing apperas on the screen05:38
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josiahim in remote places -> samba shares... i see the network.. i go into the network and i see the computer i want to access but when i try to go into that it gives me a connection error? what am i doing wrong?05:50
josiahnever mind it was firewall05:51
vbgunzhow do you encrupt a password using md5sum? without passing it a file?05:52
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vbgunzcurrently, I say md5sum <enter> write out text and before hitting enter hit Ctrl+D twice... is this how it should be done? the returned password is correct when compared to pythons hashlib md5 method05:55
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DaSkreechIs KDE.org down?05:55
vbgunzI just dont understand what passing a single - to read from stdin mean. "md5sum - text" produces nothing :/05:55
sumguy231DaSkreech: No.05:57
encom#kubuntuesp05:58
encom#kubuntues05:59
DaSkreechsumguy231: Ah My ISP sucks then05:59
DaSkreech!us05:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about us - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:59
DaSkreech!es05:59
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:59
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DaSkreechvbgunz: - is a special file06:00
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DaSkreechvbgunz: which means the keyboard06:00
vbgunzDaSkreech: not sure how to use it :/06:00
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vbgunzI thought it would read what I wrote after it, e.g., md5sum - hi -> 49f68a5c8493ec2c0bf489821c21fc3b06:01
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Biovoreecho "hi" | md5sum06:02
DaSkreechvbgunz: No not like that at all :)06:03
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DaSkreechBiovore is on the right track06:03
vbgunzBiovore: that doesn't work, I tried it :(06:03
Biovoreecho "hi" > md5sum ?06:03
vbgunznot that06:04
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DaSkreechvbgunz: it's used for commands that expect a file but you want to use stdin instead06:04
DaSkreechvbgunz: What are you trying to do?06:04
vbgunzBiovore: that second one returns nothing06:04
Biovorergr06:04
BiovoreI done it before.. I forgot what it is..06:04
DaSkreechBiovore first one was right06:04
DaSkreechvbgunz: What are you trying to do?06:05
vbgunzDaSkreech: I just realized I cannot do it, am trying to password protect grub and thought I needed md5crypt but it turns out it is available within interactive grub06:05
Biovoreoh yeah..  forgot the -06:05
Biovoreecho "hi" | md5sum -06:05
DaSkreechvbgunz: So problem solved?06:05
vbgunzBiovore: thats not it either06:05
vbgunzDaSkreech: yeah :)06:06
vbgunzI didn't realize to create the password, I needed to go into interactive grub first, I thought I needed to download something but knew about md5crypt06:06
vbgunzsorry, md5sum*06:06
vbgunzit turns out, md5scrypt churns out completely different data so it's not really turning it into an md5 hash06:07
DaSkreechvbgunz: Learnign is fun06:07
jcs7778I have a file that i need to execute in the terminal. I cd ed into the directory it is in and ./myfile -many many options and got a return of unable to execute ./myfile: permission denied. I already checked to make sure that i have execution privleages andI think i do. My ls -l lists -rwxrwxrwx for the file in questiono.06:07
DaSkreechspeeling is too!06:07
vbgunzBiovore: btw, when you get the md5 hash to hi it should be 49f68a5c8493ec2c0bf489821c21fc3b ;)06:08
vbgunzDaSkreech: thanks :)06:08
DaSkreech764efa883dda1e11db47671c4a3bbd9e06:08
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vbgunzDaSkreech: it should start with the 406:08
DaSkreechjcs7778: Righto what's the name of said file?06:08
Biovore764efa883dda1e11db47671c4a3bbd9e <-- I get that as the md5sum for hi06:08
vbgunzhi without quotes06:09
Biovorethat is..06:09
DaSkreechvbgunz: the shell strips the quotes06:09
jcs7778make_fw it's used in putting ipod linux on an ipod06:09
DaSkreechjcs7778: and it's permissions are 777 ?06:09
vbgunzmd5sum <enter> hi <Ctrl+D> <Ctrl+D> -> 49f68a5c8493ec2c0bf489821c21fc3b06:09
vbgunzpythons hashlib md5 also returns the same06:09
jcs7778DaSkreech: yeah, i ran a chmod 777 make_fw06:10
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DaSkreechvbgunz: Silly06:11
vbgunz?06:11
DaSkreechvbgunz: it's md5sum <enter>hi<enter><Ctrl+D>06:11
vbgunzDaSkreech: that too returns something different ;)06:12
DaSkreechjcs7778: try sh make_fw06:12
vbgunzI think it adds in the new line :)06:12
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DaSkreechvbgunz: Yes I think it returns our answer which makes us right :)06:12
DaSkreechJoin the majority !! :)06:12
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vbgunzheh, as long as it is the above ^49.+3b$ version, yeah, we're right :)06:13
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vbgunzheh06:14
jcs7778DaSkreech:  that just output another error "make_fw: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected"06:14
DaSkreechhmm06:15
DaSkreech./make_fw gives you the same error?06:15
jcs7778DaSkreech:  no, ./ gives me a permission denied error06:16
DrWilcockif i get a link to youtube may i get sued on MPAA?06:16
DaSkreechDrWilcock: You can be sued by the MPAA For getting up this morning06:17
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DrWilcockthat sucks06:17
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DaSkreechjcs7778: funky Who owns the file?06:17
DaSkreechHobbsee: Hiya!06:19
jcs7778DaSkreech:  If it's any help i'm trying to follow this how to "http://ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux" I'm at the part Kernel Instellation. I also just ran chown myusername make_fw. I should own it.06:19
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DaSkreechjcs7778: does it have any pictures?06:21
jgossjcs7778, try chmod +x on the file. maybe it doesn't have executable permissions. sorry if thats already been suggested.06:21
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jcs7778I've also tried executing the file as root using sudo. After running chmod +x make_fw I still get the same error06:22
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anonymousguylisto06:23
vbgunzbrb, need to test grub :|06:24
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soulrider!adeptfix06:25
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:25
soulriderhello :)06:26
DaSkreechjcs7778: try sudo su then run it06:26
DaSkreechHi soulrider06:26
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jcs7778Nope.06:28
DaSkreechblast06:28
soulriderhi DaSkreech06:28
soulrider!xorg06:28
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:28
DaSkreechjcs7778: are you sur the file isn't corrupted06:28
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jcs7778I have no idea, i can try downloading another copy. But actually I know i've had this problem with other executibles on this system06:29
DaSkreech...06:30
DaSkreechNEVER RESOLVED THEM?06:30
DaSkreechWhoops06:30
jcs7778DaSkreech: I think i'm gonna log off and re-boot into debian perhapse a different operating system would do it?06:32
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DaSkreechjcs7778: Maybe come back and let me know that sounds like your bash needs to reinstall06:33
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tekstacy_'lo all06:34
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DaSkreechhi06:36
tekstacyHow does Fedora comare to Kubuntu?06:36
DaSkreechtekstacy: too broad a question06:37
tekstacyer compare even06:37
tekstacyDoes Fedora use KDE?06:38
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sumguy231tekstacy: Nope, Gnome by default.06:38
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tekstacyDo you think Fedora is worth the hassle to try?06:39
DaSkreechsumguy231: not true06:39
DaSkreechtekstacy: starting with 7 you can download the KDE Cd or the Gnome CD06:39
DaSkreechso there is no default just like debian or Gentoo you build it as you see fit06:40
sumguy231Oh, my bad. I didn't know that about Fedora 7.06:40
tekstacystill kind of new to this "build it" is sketchy for me06:40
DaSkreechhowever to back up sumguy231 They really really like Gnome so the last time I saw fedora (two relelases ago) the KDE desktop looked exactly like a Gnome desktop06:40
DaSkreechtekstacy: you make the choice when you install06:41
DaSkreechIf you want KDE you click and you have KDE instead of GNOME06:41
nixternalDaSkreech: and the KDE desktop still does...with their retro 1980 bluecurve icons :)06:41
sumguy231It seems like they always use Gnome for their demo screenshots. Heck, I don't think I've even seen any KDE Fedora users around. :)06:42
sumguy231Do they even exist?06:42
nixternalyup06:42
sumguy231Or are they some kind of myth?06:42
nixternalprobably just their developers :)06:42
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HobbseeDaSkreech: hi!06:42
nixternaloi oi Hobbsee06:42
Hobbseehiya nixternal06:42
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drkfceI have a dual boot machine, with windows and Kubuntu, and while the router works properly in windows, ubuntu will not recieve an IP, static or not.  I've tried ifconfig down and dhclient.  Is there anything else I can do?06:43
DaSkreechnixternal: You are running 7 ?06:43
nixternalnot any more06:43
DaSkreechnixternal: KDe of course06:43
nixternalumm, ;p06:43
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nixternalmy only gnome system right now is foresight06:44
tekstacyGnome seemed a bit childish-like, like osx06:44
DaSkreechtekstacy: If you are iffy I would say hang out at both IRC chans and forums and see which one is friendlier and more in tune with you06:44
nixternaland I don't even boot it anymore06:44
DaSkreechAlthough if you strongly want KDE I would think that Kubuntu is more your stepping stone06:44
nixternaldrkfce: you are using ethernet or wifi?06:44
drkfceethernet06:44
DaSkreechCourse I'm >slightly< biased06:44
DaSkreech!botsnack06:45
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!06:45
DaSkreechthat's right ubotu that's right06:45
drkfcewell, wifi can be ethernet, so wired would be a better answer :P06:45
nixternaldrkfce: odd, do you know what the net card is?06:45
drkfceonboard06:45
sumguy231drkfce: Do an lspci and see if you see your ethernet card there.06:45
drkfcenic06:45
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sumguy231drkfce: Or in this case onboard chipset.06:45
drkfceWish I could copy and paste the answer, but it seems taht lspci sees the port06:46
drkfceifconfig shows the port too06:46
nixternaldrkfce: what does knetworkmanager show in the system tray?06:46
demonsporkthe P key isn't working at all in ubuntu unless I use it with Shift+P.  I need helP, and I have tried USB, and PS/2 keyboards, changing the X keyboard settings, everything, but it just won't work06:47
drkfceit has wired network, but it is grayed out06:47
nixternalI wouldn't put it past networkmangler06:47
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sumguy231drkfce: What exactly happens when you try ifconfig eth0 up? No dhcp offers received? What does your /etc/network/interfaces look like?06:47
tekstacyhow do I check hdd usage?06:47
sumguy231tekstacy: df -h06:48
drkfceit tries dhcp 3 times, then it sleeps06:48
drkfcewhen i do dhclient06:48
DaSkreechtekstacy: df -h if you aer a human06:48
DaSkreechare06:48
drkfcewhen I do ifconfig eth0 up, it says nothing, acting like it worked06:48
sumguy231But don't use the '-h' option if you're a robot or something. ;)06:48
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tekstacy:)   human = uses cli?06:48
Dr_willisdf -h -x tmpfs -x devpts -x usbfs06:49
DaSkreechtekstacy: Ha ha :)06:49
Dr_willisIs worth making into a "ShowDisks" alias06:49
Dr_willis:)06:49
DaSkreechtekstacy: after about a year you will love teh CLi06:49
DaSkreechit's fast and does what you want it to with very very little compromise06:50
drkfceI love keyboard shortcuts06:50
sumguy231drkfce: I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around that. Could you put the output in pastebin?06:50
drkfceheh, I have no means to connect to the system06:50
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tekstacyI use it all the time in Win.06:50
drkfceand the system has no means to get to the internet06:50
sumguy231Oh yeah, I'm stupid sometimes. Never mind that request.06:51
drkfceactually, I just changed it from static to dhcp, and I'm getting a 169.254 address06:51
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drkfceisn't that the default address given when it isn't working?06:51
DaSkreechdrkfce: yeah06:51
DaSkreechcause you know you need 12 million Ips just to say you are not on the internet06:52
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flaccidif dhclient doesn't get an offer, it will sleep and it usually indicates the dhcp server not responding if network is correctly connected06:53
drkfceMaybe I can directly connect it from my modem, update the OS, and maybe there will be a fix06:53
drkfcefor me06:54
drkfceunfortunately, that would boot me off of irc06:54
flaccid!dos06:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:54
flaccid!emulator06:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about emulator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:55
flaccid!emulation06:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about emulation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:55
flaccid!info dosbox06:55
ubotudosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65-1 (feisty), package size 506 kB, installed size 1388 kB06:55
flaccidah sweet06:55
DaSkreechDrWilcock: Do you read ars?06:55
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DaSkreechGuess now06:56
DaSkreechnot06:56
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flaccidheh dosbox rules07:04
DaSkreechYeah07:04
Dr_willisdosbox is fun. :) that scummvm program is nice also. :)07:05
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Dr_willisBeen playing "Sam and Max Hit the Road" all week07:05
Dr_willis:)07:05
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flaccid!info scummvm07:05
ubotuscummvm: free implementation of LucasArts' S.C.U.M.M interpreter. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-1 (feisty), package size 1692 kB, installed size 4260 kB07:05
flaccidhmm07:05
flaccidyeah im playing commandeer keen series heh07:05
Brad_Okay... I reinstalled kubuntu... things are looking up, but something is still wrong...07:05
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DaSkreechbradsnet: whazzat?07:06
bradsnetHello again doc and flaccid.07:06
bradsnetOkay, I'm trying to get nvidia-glx working.07:06
bradsnetPreviously I was getting odd errors in Xorg.0.log.... sometimes no errors, crazyness... but now it's more stable.07:07
Dr_williswhat video card exactly?07:07
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bradsnetnvidia geforce 6800 go ultra07:07
bradsnetNow i've got no errors in the logs.07:07
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bradsnetI used the graphical config to set up xorg.conf... the display settings deal. And it nearly worked. It loaded all the modules that were failing to load before... but still no video.07:08
bradsnetBut I noticed it was saying it was using CRT-0... but I need it to use DFP-0.07:08
bradsnetThere was a screen setting in xorg.conf, so I changed it from 0 to 1... and it said no screens available.07:09
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bradsnetI'm so close I can taste it now, I just need to figure out how to make it want to use my dfp....07:09
Dr_willisTo default to the dfp - i belive theres  some other settings to tweak.07:09
Dr_willisthere are some  example xorg.conf's that have such setups07:10
bradsnetIt doesn't seem to be working with the crt either, but it's trying to set the resoution to 640x480 which I know it doesn't support.07:10
jcs7778DaSkreech: yep I can execute on debian just fine07:10
DaSkreechjcs7778: Something may be funkadelic with your shell07:11
bradsnetSo... tell me if this makes sense though, I just went back to my working xorg.conf, the one that works with the nv driver, and all I changed was nv to nvidia... but it still doesn't work? Should it have the right screen settings since it works with the other driver?07:11
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Dr_willisive seen the 'nvidia' drivers default to the wrong monitor befor.07:12
Dr_willisit tries to be 'smarter' i guess. :)07:12
bradsnetAgh! The log still says "Assigned display device: CRT-0"07:12
jcs7778DaSkreech: well, I don't feel like doing any more tonight so thanks for all the help and putting up with this retarded situation with my shell have a good nigh.07:12
DaSkreechjcs7778: see you tomorrow07:13
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bradsnetBut this time it tried to set the res too high for the crt... prolly because that is what I was using for the dfp.07:14
Dr_willisOption "UseDisplayDevice" "string" #replace 'string' with either 'DFP' (Digital flat panel connected via DVI port), 'CRT' (any monitor that is connected via VGA ports), or 'TV'07:14
Dr_willisare you using that option in the xorg.conf?07:14
bradsnetHey, just what I was looking for.07:14
Dr_willisit pays to google/read the guides/wiki pages. :)07:15
bradsnetNo, that may work. I knew someone mentioned a setting like that to me but I couldn't remember.07:15
tekstacyhow is xfce compared to kde?07:15
Dr_willishttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=177358407:15
Dr_willistekstacy,  like blogna comapred to steak. :)07:15
DaSkreechtekstacy: light07:15
Dr_willislow-fat bologna07:15
bradsnetI've been working on this problem for over 12 hours and the guides have mostly screwed me over so....07:15
DaSkreechand again you ask really broad questions :)07:15
Dr_willisbradsnet,  this is when it pays to read, and learn whats going on. :)07:16
tekstacywhich is the steak?07:16
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tekstacy(haven't tried xfce yet)07:16
DaSkreechtekstacy: KDE07:16
bradsnetI've learned heaps more from talking in here than reading any of the forums/wikis/etc... because they mostly expect you to be somewhat psychic. If I don't know what most things are referring to i can't really learn from them.07:17
Dr_willisxfce would be ok for a low end machine..07:17
DaSkreechI think that's safe to say07:17
Dr_willisor if ya want somthing for your wife to use. :)07:17
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DaSkreechOlder more mature more specific apps better workflow07:17
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tekstacyahhh07:17
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Dr_willislittle woman got confused by kde.. so i set her up with xfce07:17
DaSkreechare you serious?07:18
flaccidbradsnet: ask specific questions here, we will give you specific answers to your questions to help you on the path07:18
DaSkreechwhat threw her?07:18
tekstacyI set my grandmother up with Gnome   (ubuntu)07:18
brian_I set my grandmother up with garden Gnomes...07:18
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  shes not very bright. :)07:18
Dr_willisand i know better then to say any more.. :)07:19
bradsnetflaccid: I have been, and I've gotten a ton of good information. It's difficult because I've been working on this so long I can't remember who I've told what, and I certainly don't know what you remember about the issue. I've talked to you about this before, for example.07:19
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Dr_willisof course all she needs is a browser icon, and a  pysol icon.. but she saw all the other stuff...07:19
bradsnetAnd holy moly it just worked.07:19
Dr_willisbradsnet,  remarkable. :)07:20
melkorHow do I kill a program from the terminall window?07:20
Dr_williskillall programname07:20
Dr_willisor xkill, then click on the program07:20
Dr_willisor use 'ps ax | grep programname' get its pid, and use 'kill pid'07:20
Dr_willis:) or............. hmm lets see...07:20
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brian_Hey flaccid, how did you come by your nick - is it a reflection of your sexual prowess or just your attitude?07:20
adenicioDaSkreech: i just reinstall feisty 7.04 kubuntu,but i dont see my hdd nor my media storage on my desktop.i created a new folder to see if i can get in in the red folder to the left name root in red there's nothing.is this normal?07:21
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josiahhow do you change the resolution in kde?07:21
flaccid brian_: grinspoon07:21
melkorthanks that awesome07:21
DaSkreechadenicio: Sorry what? You want to mount a hard drive?07:21
bradsnetjosiah: In the system configuration there is a display settings panel you can use.07:22
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bradsnetDr_willis: Thank you for your help.07:22
tekstacyahh, thx Dr_willis07:22
Dr_willis!info xrand07:22
ubotuPackage xrand does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas07:22
Dr_willisHmm !find xrand07:22
Dr_willis!find xrand07:22
ubotuFound: libxrandr-dev, libxrandr2, libxrandr2-dbg, xrandr07:22
josiahbradsnet: oh.. lol i was looking in the system window and the whole time it was right in front of me07:22
Dr_willisTheres some Kde, systray thing that lets ya change the res as needed on the fly,07:23
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Dr_willis!info xrandr07:23
ubotuxrandr: X Rotation, Reflection and Resize utility. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 60 kB07:23
maryenhello, would anyone be willing to help me?07:23
brian_I thought grunge was waaaaaay dead...07:23
flaccidmaryen: yes07:23
DaSkreech!anyone07:23
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?07:23
adenicioDaSkreech: no lol.on my desktop when u install linux im sopose to see my hdd and media storage that look like my computer from xp07:23
maryenI'm looking for someone to help me test a video feed I'm setting up07:23
DaSkreechRight07:23
flaccidmaryen: this is support channel for kubuntu07:24
DaSkreechDr_willis: You know how to do that?07:24
bradsnetAnd that sounds fishy anyway.07:24
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  do what?  its going on 2 am here.. :)07:24
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Dr_willis!info krandrtray07:24
ubotuPackage krandrtray does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas07:24
DaSkreechDr_willis: get a drive icon on the Desktop07:25
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brian_Does "Dr" stand for doctor Mr. willis or just "derrrrrrr"?07:25
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Dr_willisDaSkreech,  i just make a soft link from /media/whever to the users desktop07:25
tekstacyoops07:25
Dr_willis:)07:25
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Dr_willisor use the media:/ address in konqueror07:25
Dr_willisthat should show them also07:25
Dr_willismedia:/ shows all mine.07:26
DaSkreechok07:26
Dr_willisisent there a kde settings area thast selects what gets shown on the desktop also?07:26
Dr_willisI tend to NOT want them there.07:26
DaSkreechnever bothered with Desktop Icons07:26
tekstacysorry, what was the command for hdd usage again?07:26
Dr_willis!find krandrtray07:26
DaSkreechdf -h07:26
tekstacyer, to check usage07:26
tekstacythanks07:26
DaSkreechdu -h07:26
ubotuFile krandrtray found in kcontrol, kdebase-dbg07:26
DaSkreech :)07:27
Dr_willisdf -h -x tmpfs -x devpts -x usbfs07:27
Dr_willis07:27
Dr_willisis MY fave. :)07:27
DaSkreechdf tells you free space07:27
DaSkreech Du tells you how much you have used07:27
DaSkreechducks is my fave07:27
Dr_willis!find ducks07:27
tekstacyman df07:27
ubotuFile ducks found in r-cran-boot07:27
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DaSkreechDr_willis: it doesn't exist outside my office i think07:27
tekstacy:)   time to clip nails....07:27
DaSkreechhi nikkiana07:27
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Dr_willisuse ------> watch 'df -h -x tmpfs -x devpts -x usbfs'    in a little terminal window.07:28
bradsnetOkay, it's working at a slightly lower res that I know it can support, but it still looks darn good now, and is really FLYING performance wise... so I guess I'm okay with the slightly lower res for the moment.07:28
DaSkreechDr_willis: does nothing here07:28
Dr_willisedit the proper mode lines..  Modes           "1024x768"      "800x600"       "640x480"07:29
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Dr_willisDaSkreech,  should  show the ouitput of the command every 4 sec or so.. a poormans 'drive monitor' applet. :)07:29
brian_Do all of you command line guys watch the Discovery Channel and get a chuby when the show photos of the glyphs (I do)?07:29
tekstacyDr, what should it do.07:29
DaSkreechDr_willis: yeah but the data is  blank :)07:29
Dr_williswhat data?  its showing mine.07:30
tekstacyall I see is   >07:30
DaSkreechDr_willis: ah well07:30
Dr_willisYou did a typo then tekstacy07:30
Dr_willisand left an open '07:30
bradsnetThe proper mode is definately there, and when I set it I get no errors... just no video.07:30
DaSkreechtekstacy: You forgot a '07:30
DaSkreechDr_willis: ducks is a hog hunter07:30
Dr_willisI used that command/montior ages ago with the 'roottail' stuff that was popular for a while07:30
Dr_willis!find roottail07:30
DaSkreechalias of the command du -cks * | sort -rn | head -1107:30
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ubotuPackage/file roottail does not exist in feisty07:31
bradsnetMaybe this is why it wasn't working before... cause it WAS trying that mode... maybe it doesn't support it for some reason and the reason it's working now is because I have the slightly lower mode in there when I didn't before....07:31
tekstacyok, what is the fastest way to bring up a terminal window?07:31
Dr_willistekstacy,  leave one open all the time. :)07:31
DaSkreechtekstacy: alt+space -> kon -> <enter>07:31
Dr_willis!info yakuake07:31
ubotuyakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 512 kB07:31
Dr_willisthen run   yakuake  and hit F1207:31
DaSkreechtekstacy: or if you have much sense yakuake07:31
Dr_willis:)07:31
DaSkreechthen it's F1207:32
DaSkreechwhich by the way is 1/4 kg less addicitive than herion07:32
DaSkreechI keep pressing F12 on gnome and windows and mac :(07:32
DaSkreechalt+space too07:32
brian_I'm guessing you've never really used heroin have you?07:33
tekstacyahh, the drive usage command is cool.07:33
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tekstacyheroin sucked07:33
DaSkreechthough nothing is drummed into my DNA more than Alt+ctrl+a :-(07:33
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brian_that means you paid for shitty heroin07:33
tekstacyok, heroin was good, watching friend turn blue sucked07:34
brian_forgot to breathe?07:35
tekstacysomething like that I guess.07:35
bradsnetDr_willis: Thanks again, I'm off.07:35
tekstacyHe was on coke too.07:36
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DaSkreechtekstacy: >_<07:36
tekstacythe folly of youth and all that good shit....07:37
brian_software response lagging means big brother is watching...07:37
Dr_willisHmm07:37
Dr_willisAdding `diversion of /usr/bin/bsetroot to /usr/bin/bsetroot.blackbox by fluxbox'07:37
Dr_williswwhat is a 'diversion' in the apt-get installing 'meaning' of the term. :)07:38
Dr_willisjust installed fluxbox and it said that.. never seen that sort of message befor.07:38
brian_Diet Coke or regular?07:38
tekstacy:)07:38
tekstacyI STILL feel gaps in my space-time continum from those days07:39
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Dr_willistravling at the speed of light can do that to ya.07:40
peters_I'm having a small issue. When I launch Firefox, the little working cursor (bouncy firefox logo) stays there long after firefox is open. How can I get rid of it?07:40
tekstacySo what about Windows drivers, like for my SIM reader, can they be made to work in linux?07:40
brian_Just remember:  re-hab is for quitters...07:41
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tekstacywell, most07:42
DaSkreech!offtopic | tekstacy and brian_07:42
ubotutekstacy and brian_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!07:42
tekstacy:07:43
tekstacyer:   :(  sorry07:43
Dr_willissimreader?07:43
Dr_willisThat sounds like a Dull Game. :)07:43
Dr_willisSimWatchingPaintDry07:43
DaSkreechDr_willis: SimIRCChanSupport07:44
DaSkreechnow with less repeating questions!07:44
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tekstacySIM cards like from mobile phone07:44
DaSkreechtekstacy: do you know who made the SimReader?07:44
DaSkreech!kmobiletools07:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kmobiletools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:44
DaSkreech!info kmobiletools07:44
ubotukmobiletools: KDE application for controlling your mobile phone. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.3.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 128 kB, installed size 484 kB07:44
DaSkreechMight work :)07:45
tekstacyI got tht just an hour or so ago but haven't set it up yet07:45
brian_hey there DaSkreech -- you didn't get enough hugs as a child?07:45
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DaSkreechbrian_: No I didn't but in any case if you want to keep up the conversation please feel free to do so but do it in #kubuntu-offtopic thank you07:46
brian_(grin) ok then - I'm hugging you.  At first it feels good.  Then, I tell you about a game called "good touch bad touch" and you tell me that you don't really care about the rules...07:47
peters_I'm having a small issue. When I launch Firefox, the little working cursor (bouncy firefox logo) stays there long after firefox is open. How can I get rid of it?07:48
DaSkreechpeters_: Totally or just for Firefox?07:48
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peters_DaSkreech, it only happens to firefox.07:49
andresjpeters_, right click it (in the K Menu?) and select Edit. in the dialog uncheck the "Enable launch feedback."07:49
DaSkreechSystem settings -> Keyboard and mouse -> mouse -> Visual feedback07:49
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mike_mooseHello?07:49
DaSkreechG'Bye mate!07:50
peters_andresj, that was already checked.07:50
peters_andresj, oops you said uncheck.07:50
andresjyep07:50
peters_andresj, thanks that did it.07:51
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peters_One more question for the night. How can I get the trash bin icon back on the desktop?07:51
tekstacyright click on the panel07:51
tekstacythen Add Aplet to Panel07:51
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andresjright click on the desktop > Create new > Link to location... ; put trash:// in the URL box and then click on the icon button to select the trash icon if it doesn't appear already.07:52
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peters_thanks07:52
Tidusquick question.  what's the quick/dirty way to set up a kubuntu machine to act as a NAT router?07:53
tekstacycrap, sorry, misunderstood question07:54
DaSkreechgah kNetworkmanager sucks!07:54
TidusDaSkreech: yeah, i figured that one out07:54
DaSkreech!router07:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:54
DaSkreech!gateway07:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gateway - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:54
Tidusi had to use iwconfig manually07:54
DaSkreechhmm07:55
BiovoreTidus: you cna do a simple nat with a few commands on the cli..07:55
TidusBiovore: i'm used to doing it by hand on gentoo07:55
Tidusbut i'm looking for a simple script07:55
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tekstacywell, 02:00 here, goodnight all.07:55
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BiovoreTidus: there is a gui tool called kmyfirewall..07:55
DaSkreech!firewall07:56
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).07:56
DaSkreechtekstacy: night07:56
tekstacyThanks for all the help guys07:56
tekstacyquit07:56
tekstacyDAMN, really must clip nails07:56
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Tidusi'll look into that one07:57
Tidusi remember a debian script that did the job fine07:57
Tidusbut i cant remember what its called07:57
adenicioDaSkreech: how do i get to the root?07:57
Tidusadenicio: sudo -i07:57
Biovorepeople write little shell scripts that do all kinds of thing.. just google for stuff..07:57
Biovorethe debian on should work on ubuntu.. There basicly the same thing..07:57
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LaWi need some help07:57
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brian_Hey Tidus, I bet you do every thing by07:58
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LaWcan someone please help me07:58
Tidusbrian_: ?07:58
DaSkreech!someone07:58
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?07:58
brian_Hey Tidus, I bet you do every thing by "hand" dont' you?07:58
adenicioTidus: lol not that.i want to get in my root folder07:58
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DaSkreechadenicio: cd /07:58
Tidusadenicio: sudo -i then cd ~07:59
herbiehi! installed kubuntu 7.04 yesterday.. i know, that there is no root password.. so what i must write to login as root? trying to install hplip07:59
Tidusi'm used to working from shell, not gui07:59
mike_mooseInstalling the latest gcc package causes a kernel oops in gutsy for me. What can I do?07:59
LaWi can't get ubuntu to start i get this error msg about /bin/sh:can't  access tty job control turned off07:59
Tidusherbie: hplip installed by default08:00
herbieaa08:00
herbieok08:00
herbie:D08:00
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Tidus!sudo_root > herbie08:00
Tidusgr...08:00
DaSkreech!root08:01
ubotuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo08:01
vbgunzanyone know what happened to libapache2-mod-security ? is it not in any of the feisty repos?08:01
DaSkreechmike_moose: ask in #ubuntu+108:01
Tidusbasically, root is disabled, log in as you, then to run commands as root, just prefix the command with 'sudo'08:01
adenicioTidus: dont understand.i have to put it in a konsole right?do i have to do that everytime i want to go in my root folder?08:01
LaWhelp!08:02
Tidusadenicio: i'm not quite that familiar with any linux distribution that has root disabled08:02
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DaSkreech!hidden08:02
ubotuKubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)08:02
LaWi can't get ubuntu to start i get this error msg about /bin/sh:can't  access tty job control turned off08:02
DaSkreechLaW: has it ever booted before?08:02
LaWno08:02
LaWi have tested the cd for problems it says everything is ok08:03
DaSkreechsounds like you should reinstall08:03
LaWhow to i do that08:03
LaWi am new to linuz08:03
LaWlinux*08:03
DaSkreechLaW: Were you using the system>08:03
DaSkreechor has it literally never booted08:03
DaSkreech oh wait this is the Live CD you are talking about?08:03
LaWall i did was insert the cd and clicked start ir install unbuntu08:04
LaWyes08:04
LaWyes its the live one08:04
DaSkreechLaW: try the safe graphics mode08:04
LaWdidn't work08:04
DaSkreechLaW: laptop?08:04
LaW2 laptops and a destop didn't work on none08:04
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tekstacy'lo again08:05
LaWthe desktop is giving me the error that it wrote tho08:05
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tekstacyanother question, where in the file system can I find KTorrent?08:05
DaSkreechtekstacy: go ot bed!08:05
DaSkreechtekstacy: you want where it's installed?08:05
Tidustekstacy: it's in the K menu08:05
Tidusinstalled by default08:05
tekstacyIE: Firefox wants to know where to find the "helper application" (for a torrent)08:06
andresjtekstacy: and the program itself is /usr/bin/ktorrent08:06
DaSkreechLaW: Hmm where does it do that08:06
DaSkreechtekstacy: on the command line type where ktorrent08:06
tekstacyAH HA! Thank you, now I can start the DL and go to bed08:06
TidusBiovore: kmyfirewall is saying firewall not installed, but iptables is there08:06
DaSkreechLaW: when rather08:07
tekstacybash: where: commad not found08:07
LaWit seems to be loading08:07
LaWthen i get this error08:07
DaSkreechtekstacy: whereis ?08:07
DaSkreechtekstacy: which ktorrent should also work08:08
herbieTidus: printer works fine! printed test page and its perfect08:08
LaWits say starting and then i get the process bar and then the next screen is that error08:08
DaSkreechCan you press alt+Ctrl+F1 and see if there are any other messages?08:09
Tidusherbie: cool08:09
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Tidusbrb08:09
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tekstacyahh whereis worked.08:10
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tekstacyThanks guys, this has been a very educational night    :)08:10
tekstacygoodnight08:11
LaWi did the alt+ctrl+f1 and its say's loading, please wait...08:11
LaWi did the alt+ctrl+f1 and its say's loading, please wait...08:13
DaSkreechThat's it?08:13
LaWyep08:13
DaSkreechstrange08:13
adenicioDaisuke-Ido: u know when u open a folder to the left there are shortcuts names of folder to tell u where u are?i dont have that08:13
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LaWyeah thats what i was thinking08:13
DaSkreechnormally it would spit a bunch for Kernel info08:13
adenicio#kubuntu-fr08:14
LaWon my laptop it get to a but father but then go's to a blank screen and doens't go any father then that i don't get anything on the screen08:14
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DaSkreechwhat laptop?08:15
LaWi have an HP08:15
LaWdv series08:15
DaSkreechcan look at A URL and see if it help08:15
DaSkreechs08:15
DaSkreech!laptop08:15
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org08:15
DaSkreechFirst Link08:16
tlyoungbHi Folks. Well I think I made switch. I got Ubunto running on my Compaq Laptop.08:16
tlyoungbWorks great.08:16
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LaWi really wanna run it on my desktop tho i was just gonna try it on my laptop because it wasn't working on there08:16
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TidusDaSkreech: you can count kubuntu working on an old pentium2 compaq armada 1750 ...08:17
daniele_!list08:17
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots08:17
daniele_ciao08:17
DaSkreechLaW: I think that we can get it there but a few steps at a time :)08:17
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DaSkreechLaW: I would try the noapci cheat though08:17
Tiduswith acpi enabled even...08:18
Tidusworks just peachy08:18
Tidusalthough i gotta figure out how to disable the automatic suspend08:18
LaWthe boot cheat that the help menu gives08:18
Tidussince this thing is acting as a wireless bridge for the desktop in the bedroom08:18
LaWit ain't work for me08:18
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Tidusany help on that one?08:19
arunis there anything similar to cocoamysql or mysql administrator for ubuntu?08:20
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NickPrestaarun, kmysqladmin08:21
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LaWi have a dell c600 and i get a different error on there it tell me [   124.944000]  buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 008:22
DaSkreechLaW: Means it can't read the Cd08:23
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TidusLaW: fd0 is the floppy disk ....08:23
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DaSkreechOh wait yeah it is08:23
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arunNickPresta: thanks. i found that the mysql administrator is in the ubuntu repos as well, but on the mysql website they've only listed tarballs for redhat and suse08:25
arundoes anyone here use gui clients to backup their databases?08:26
adenicioDaSkreech: my navigation panel is not there.it just got white blank folders08:26
arunum, i know this is offtopic, but if my hostname is 'localhost', should i enter localhost@domain.ext as my server hostname?08:27
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LaWis there a place where i can download the full version of ubuntu08:32
TidusLaW: www.kubuntu.org08:32
hangthedj_serverdoes anybody know what version of alsa feisty uses?08:33
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DaSkreech!info alsa08:37
ubotuPackage alsa does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:37
ubuntuhangthedj_server: 1.0.1308:37
DaSkreech!find alsa08:37
ubotuFound: alsa-base, alsa-utils, gstreamer0.10-alsa, libesd-alsa0, libpt-plugins-alsa (and 34 others)08:37
DaSkreech!info alsa-base08:38
ubotualsa-base: ALSA driver configuration files. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.13-3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 163 kB, installed size 344 kB08:38
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adenicioubotu: how to i modify a picture.i dont see the tools to draw08:39
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KartiHi all, got a 32 bit install on a 64 bit motherboard, but my USB ports are not recognised. Is there a way to add 64 bit drivers as I need them for my usb wireless and usb hard drive. Thanks in advance08:39
adenicioDaSkreech:  how to i modify a picture.i dont see the tools to draw08:39
Tidus!pkginfo gimp08:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pkginfo gimp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:39
Tidusgr.08:40
pag!info gimp | Tidus08:40
ubotutidus: gimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.13-1ubuntu4.3 (feisty), package size 2901 kB, installed size 7920 kB08:40
Tidusthat works08:40
Tidus!info gimp | adenicio08:40
ubotuadenicio: gimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.13-1ubuntu4.3 (feisty), package size 2901 kB, installed size 7920 kB08:40
ubuntu!info krita | adenicio08:41
ubotuadenicio: krita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu1.1 (feisty), package size 3043 kB, installed size 9412 kB08:41
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DaSkreechadenicio: krita works nicely08:42
DaSkreechadenicio: alt+space -> krita -> <enter>08:42
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adenicioDaSkreech:  ubuntu:  i dont see gimp neither krita08:43
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DaSkreechadenicio: Oh my apologies08:43
DaSkreechadenicio: I'm sorry how familar are you with Linux/kubuntu ?08:43
adenicioDaSkreech: good enought to know about the alt+space08:44
DaSkreechadenicio: :-)08:44
DaSkreechso you know how to install krita?08:44
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adenicioDaSkreech: i tink kubuntu was install bad.i dont even see my navigation pannel.and my media in the pannel08:45
DaSkreechadenicio: press F908:45
adenicioDaSkreech: krita doesnt come with kubuntu 7.04?for the moment im upgrading so i cant install anything08:46
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DaSkreechadenicio: apparently not I installed it so long ago I thought it was by default silly me08:47
DaSkreechadenicio: It's part of the KDE Office Suite which I use instead of OO.o08:47
adenicioDaSkreech: f9 hides the navigation panel it's not that the prob.it's whats sopose to be in it not there.how can i send u a picture to see?08:47
DaSkreechtinypic ?08:48
DaSkreech.com08:48
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adenicioDaSkreech: the upload is takin long08:52
DaSkreechadenicio: ok08:52
DaSkreechyuo are the last thing on my help list for tonight08:52
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DaSkreechadenicio: If I am not mistaken you can use OO.o draw to do pics as well08:54
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adenicioDaSkreech: lol i didnt see what time it is lol it just that my xp gone bad then i need linux to corect it but linux went bad so i reinstall linux now it look like it install bad08:54
DaSkreechadenicio: just mount the drive manually08:55
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prakBiovore: are you there08:55
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adenicioDaSkreech: MOUNTing the drives is not the problem.my problem with xp when i get to the desktop 20second after it sticks and hardly moves08:56
DaSkreechadenicio: Sounds driverish08:56
DaSkreechadenicio: does the same in safe mode?08:57
adenicioDaSkreech: but i had to reinstall linux because of a problem i had going for 4 days.i could install anything with adept,or apt-get install08:57
DaSkreech>_<08:57
adenicioDaSkreech: i cant get in the safe mode08:57
DaSkreech##windows08:58
adenicioDaSkreech: the upload for the picture is taking to long how can i shore u another way?08:58
adeniciofile:///home/adenicio/Desktop/snapshot1.png08:59
adeniciolol08:59
DaSkreechYeah that'll work :)08:59
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adenicioDaSkreech: what will work09:01
DaSkreechthe file:/// link09:01
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adenicioDaSkreech: and how are u sopose to get there to see the pic?09:02
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DaSkreechI can't09:02
DaSkreech:-)09:02
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DaSkreechthat's why it MUST work09:02
DaSkreechhi ompaul09:03
adeniciolol09:03
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DaSkreechadenicio: So other than your reinstall anything pressing?09:03
ompaulmorning09:04
adenicioDaSkreech: check see if u cant see my pic http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4yirllf if u can u will have to zoom in09:05
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DaSkreechadenicio: the images at the side?09:06
adenicioDaSkreech: the navigation pannel id there but it look corupt09:06
DaSkreechYeah just needs to find the right images09:07
DaSkreechthe reinstall should groovy that up09:07
raynerdanyone know how I can convert a jpeg to png09:07
raynerd?09:07
DaSkreechif not just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:07
adenicioDaSkreech: on the side?its white with circles look like kubuntu logo09:08
adenicioDaSkreech: try this http://tinypic.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i13.tinypic.com/4yirllf.png" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a>09:08
adenicioDaSkreech: the png09:08
DaSkreechYeah I'm looking at it09:08
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adenicioto the left got just blank files09:09
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DaSkreechYeah sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop should fix hat09:09
DaSkreechthat09:09
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adenicioDaSkreech: ok i'll try that after the upgrade thing finish.just one thing befor u go09:11
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DaSkreechadenicio: sure09:13
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adenicioDaSkreech: isnt there a way to see what your cd havec got true to install?because the first time i buy the cd with a book i check for default on the cd it had none.i check 1hour ago it told me it didnt get true to check 460 stuff09:13
DaSkreechwhat09:14
DaSkreechthe Kubuntu Cd has a sefl check if that's what you mean09:14
adenicioDaSkreech: sorry for my bad english im not that good at riten09:14
DaSkreechadenicio: what do you mean have got true to install?09:14
adenicioDaSkreech: i want to know what all my cd didnt get true to install09:15
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adenicioDaSkreech: if possible09:15
DaSkreechadenicio: Umm not sure09:15
DaSkreechbut I know that if you apt-get install kubuntu-desktop it will install all you need09:16
hangthedj_serverif the channel #bash for the Born again shell?09:16
DaSkreechadenicio: If you have an alternate CD it helps the upgrade stuff much faster09:16
DaSkreechhangthedj_server: Yes it is09:16
hangthedj_serverthanks ;)09:16
adenicioDaSkreech: ok09:16
DaSkreechnight!09:17
DaSkreech!windows | adenicio09:17
ubotuadenicio: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents09:17
DaSkreechThat chan should help09:17
hangthedj_serverdoes anyone know how to get the console to not blank?09:18
adenicioDaSkreech: ok tanks09:18
adenicioDaSkreech:09:19
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adenicioDaSkreech: where can i download the lates kubuntu and how big it is?09:20
DaSkreechadenicio: http://kubuntu.org09:21
DaSkreechOne Cd09:21
DaSkreech700 Megs09:21
DaSkreech69809:21
DaSkreechbut who is counting?09:21
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adenicioDaSkreech: ok i taugh it was like 3go or something :-p09:21
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DaSkreechnaw :)09:22
adenicioDaSkreech: and how can i copy the iso to a cd on linux?09:22
DaSkreech!iso09:22
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.09:22
DaSkreechadenicio: in KDE use K3B09:23
kkathmancompiz-kde: Depends: libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig but it is not installable09:23
kkathmanE: Broken packages09:23
kkathmananyone know the reason for this when in stalling compiz ?09:23
kkathmanI followed the wiki09:23
adeniciook09:23
kkathmanor at least this wiki:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion09:24
hangthedj_server!effects09:24
ubotuFor help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects09:24
DaSkreechkkathman: ask in #ubuntu-effects09:24
kkathmanok09:24
hangthedj_serverkkathman: i only say that, cause i don't have a clue.09:24
hangthedj_server;)09:24
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kkathmaneh as I suspected no answer :(09:26
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hangthedj_serverkkathman: go to #compiz-fusion and tell them beryl is way better.09:27
kkathmanlol09:27
kkathmanprobably true09:27
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kkathmanI guess I'll go back to beryl then :(09:28
blekoshi, if I'm nt mistaken linux used to have smg like a database to increase search. This database could be updated by the user09:28
blekosany ideas what i'm talking about>09:29
blekos?09:29
Tcsdomainhuh? beryl is still better?09:30
Tcsdomainoh mans09:30
adenicioblekos: no speek spanish to see lol09:30
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redfivedoes compiz fuzion have emeerald themes like beryl does?09:30
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adenicioredfive: maybe09:30
redfivemaybe?09:31
blekoshahahaha09:31
redfivei know beryl, not sure on compiz fuzion09:31
adenicioDaisuke-Ido: i dont understand this thing with cd 1,2,3,4 gusty etc.i just want  kubuntu-feisty later than 7.04 beta. what is gusty?09:34
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adeniciohttp://kubuntu.org/09:34
pag!gutsy | adenicio09:35
ubotuadenicio: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+109:35
hangthedj_servercompiz fusion is still kinda buggy, i'm constantly trying to get it to work again.09:36
adeniciopag: is it like kubuntu feisty?09:36
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hangthedj_serveralthough, compiz is much prettier.09:36
adenicio!feisty09:37
ubotuKubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php09:37
pagadenicio, it's newer and far less stable... You should download Feisty09:37
redfivei could get beryl working no problem09:38
adeniciopag: i bought the cd kubuntu 7.04 beta is there anymore that came out after that that i can download.i dont want ubuntu09:38
redfiveand i caint find emerald theme manager in compiz fuzion09:39
pagadenicio, http://kubuntu.org/download.php#latest09:39
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hangthedj_serverredfive: you have to install emerald and use the emerald theme manager.09:40
Tcsdomainhi, does anyone know which driver works best for an ati radeon 9600 xt? thanks.09:41
adeniciopag: how big is the dvd's and whats the differents if i choose cd or dvd?does it comes with less things or it only come with more language?09:42
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pagadenicio, I've never used DVD... I guess it has more packages, and it can be used as local repo...09:43
BiovoreTcsdomain: none..  ATI's binary driver comes the closest.. but it sucks hard still..09:43
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adeniciopag: the kubuntu i have is 4.7gig's09:43
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adeniciopag: does the cd version can do a cd-live?09:43
redfive<hangthedj_server> can you explain? how do you install emerarld after compiz fuzion?09:44
hangthedj_serverredfive, what repository are you using?09:44
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clau85hello. which is the mixer device in kubuntu. and what is the software mixer. asking because I can't control volume with tvtime (I selected /dev/mixer as the mixer)09:44
pagadenicio, there are live-cd verison (which contains an installer too) and alternate version, which is text-based installation cd09:44
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pagadenicio, they both are around 700MB in size09:45
redfivehangthedj_server i havent started yet09:46
TcsdomainBiovore: so that means I don't have much of a choice but to switch video cards? also, the opensource drivers worked once before with tis card, but that was with a different motherboard. now they freeze before Kubuntu finishes loading. thanks anyway09:46
hangthedj_serverredfive, what distro?09:46
redfivefeisty09:46
redfiveamd6409:46
hangthedj_serveri've heard download.tuxfamily.org has a repository for fusion thats pretty good.09:47
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hangthedj_serverin gutsy, you can install fusion in the default repositories.09:47
redfivewow, these repos are everywhere09:47
hangthedj_serverbut fusion is far from stable.09:47
redfiveevery guide says to use a different one09:47
adeniciopag: can the cd do the option cd-live? if there both 700 why my kubuntu is 4.7gigs?09:47
maverickany one knows of places where i can know how to customize my kde taskbar panel ...i'd like to make it a lot like gnome's one...??09:48
hangthedj_serveri don't know of any different ones.09:48
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pagadenicio, livecd has a live session - yes. 4.7GB: is that installed size or the DVD?09:49
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adeniciopag: i tink its just the dvd09:50
adeniciopag: but im lookin in the dvd and its like it have nothing09:51
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pagadenicio, I'm not familiar with *buntu DVD-versions..09:52
adeniciopag: when u upgrade does it install like a new version of kubuntu?09:52
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pagadenicio, if you upgrade, your system will be upgraded to most recent (stable) version09:53
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adeniciopag: ok09:54
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adeniciopag: and update is for what is install like amarok etc?09:55
pagadenicio, pardon?09:56
adeniciolol09:56
adeniciopag: and update is for what is install like amarok etc?09:56
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adeniciopag: and update is to update amarok etc09:57
pagadenicio, it upgrades all installed packages, if that's what you mean..09:57
adeniciopag: no i mean the updates09:58
adenicionot upgrade09:58
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pagadenicio, sorry, I don't understand the question then.09:59
adeniciolol is my english that suck lol10:00
adenicio!ohmy10:00
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:00
adeniciolol10:00
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clau85hello. which is the mixer device in kubuntu. and what is the software mixer. asking because I can't control volume with tvtime (I selected /dev/mixer as the mixer)10:01
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CypreneHihi! My kubuntu seems to have um, broken. >_>10:03
Biovoreclau85: the volume control for the tv might be on another channel and not pcm or master..10:03
clau85and what can I do then?10:04
GoodHabitCyprene, how broken? What he does now? Where is error?10:05
CypreneThe program crashed, and when I restarted and logged in no programs will load.  Not even konqueror or a terminal.  When I run in failsafe mode I can run programs, though.10:05
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Cypreneerm, logged into KDE10:06
wordCyprene: "The program crashed" which program?10:06
CypreneErm, the whole system crashed, sorry.  I was unraring a file and it failed because it ran out of disk space, and then all the programs I was running went unresponsive.10:07
wordoo10:08
wordi'm surprised the x server starts10:08
wordCyprene: can you boot into kde at all?10:08
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CypreneI can, yeah.  It boots OK.  The sound icon and the knetworker manager icon come up10:09
Cyprene*knetwork manager10:09
wordCyprene: many programs in order to work need to write to files ect. when there isn't enough space to do it, they freak out...apparently the one where X server wouldn't boot when it didn't have enough space has been fixed though hehe.10:09
CypreneI booted into failsafe and rm'd a bunch of old AVIs.10:10
wordCyprene: since then does it boot correctly?10:10
Cyprenelemme try again10:10
CypreneIt looks like it didn't. :(10:11
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CypreneIs there a unix command to tell how much free space I've got on my drive?10:12
Jucatodf -h10:12
Cyprenethx10:12
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Jucatoalthough that lists per partition (mounted)10:12
Cyprenerm wipes a file totally right? It doesn't move it to a trash folder somewhere?10:13
wordCyprene: another thing that may have happened, while it was writing it stopped suddenly and your disk might have errors on it :-/10:13
JucatoCyprene: yep. totally gone10:13
wordrm erases completely (and doesn't leave crap behind like windows *cough*)10:13
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CypreneI can check using... what's the program? fsck?10:14
Cypreneright?10:14
wordyup10:14
wordor you can reboot until the 20time check kicks in10:14
Cypreneyeah its still got 2.5 gigs free10:14
CypreneLet me try upping that a little, that's not very much10:14
wordit's more than enough10:14
wordeither reboot a bunch, or go into recovery console..i'm pretty sure it doesn't mount any partitions then..so then you can fsck the drive10:15
JucatoI thought it was 30 times?10:15
zorg_the_falsethe partition is the root one ?10:15
Cyprenehow do I get into a recovery console?10:15
Jucatoactually it's not the number of reboots that is counted. it's the number of times the partition is mounted10:16
adeniciopag: when i install linux my navigation pannel is there but with blank white folders.how do i get back the pannel?i tyr sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop nothing.it maybe when i was playing in the option etc i maybe deactivate it.if it does have that option do you know where i can find it?10:16
wordit's an option in grub10:16
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pagadenicio, sorry, I don't know.10:16
wordCyprene: if it's just the times it's been mounted...repeat the command mount *drive* && umount *drive* a bunch..that is if recovery console doesn't mount any partitions10:16
zorg_the_falsethe amount of mount before forcing a fsk is tunable by "tune2fs -c myamount" and default to 3010:16
wordotherwise you'll have to get a live cd like knoppmyth..which i've always had trouble with detecting x server settings..10:17
zorg_the_falsewhy not umount + fsck ?10:18
Cypreneso if I type tune2fs -c 110:18
Cyprenewell, lemme try that10:18
zorg_the_false:)10:18
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zorg_the_falseyou will get a LOT of fsck if you keep it :)10:18
wordCyprene: in the meantime..when you say programs don't run..do you mean they never start? also..can you get into a terminal and see if there's any debug output when they run?10:18
CypreneThey never start. NOTHING starts.  Konquerer windows won't open.  I can't get into a terminal because terminal doesn't start.10:19
wordzorg_the_false: it's the partition he's booting off of umount wouldnt work :P10:19
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zorg_the_falseword: ah ok :)10:19
wordCyprene: tried starting something in virtual terminal?10:19
mm_202Good morning guys, quick question.10:19
mm_202Is there a way to save the current directory that your in, then cd somewhere else, then go back to the original one?10:19
CypreneI've booted into failsafe mode and started programs from there, they work fine.10:20
wordmm_202: up arrow to the earlier command? o.O10:20
zorg_the_falsemm_202: use "cd -"10:20
wordCyprene: fail safe mode is probably different somehow o.O10:20
zorg_the_falsemm_202: try "pwd; cd /tmp; pwd; cd -; pwd"10:20
wordCyprene: just when you start up normal, go to ctrl+alt+f1 log in, and try running a command line based app10:20
Cyprenelike what, vi?10:21
NickPrestaCyprene, vim, nano, etc10:21
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Cypreneok10:21
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adeniciopag: u know any virus scanner for linux that can scan windows too?10:22
NickPresta!virus | adenicio10:22
ubotuadenicio: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2110:22
mm_202zorg_the_false: thank you.  Let me test that real quick :)10:22
NickPrestaadenicio, for scanning Windows, try ClamAV10:22
CypreneStarts just fine10:22
CypreneI'm getting some error about bcm43 microcode, but that's been there forever.10:23
maverickdoes anyone know of a good linux monitor10:23
mm_202zorg_the_false: works perfectly!  Thank you!10:23
mavericksomething simple clear and displays on desktop10:23
maverick?10:23
zorg_the_falsemm_202: my pleasure :)10:23
mm_202Does 'cd' have any other commands, it doesnt have a man page..10:23
NickPrestamm_202, cd = change directory10:23
zorg_the_falsemm_202: use "help cd"10:24
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adenicioNickPresta: ok10:24
zorg_the_falsemm_202: cd is builtin bash, this is a not a 'usual tool'10:24
mm_202ah, I see.  Okay, that makes sense.10:24
zorg_the_falseand cd - is not in the help :)))))))10:24
CypreneYeah, it runs perfectly.  So I guess it's some problem with kde?10:24
zorg_the_falsemoauaou you got to know magic :)10:25
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mm_202zorg_the_false: yes, I noticed that.  but cd - will save me lots of typing now :)10:26
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CypreneI guess if I can find out how to run knetworkmanager from a terminal, I can run it in failsafe mode10:28
Cyprenekind of a pain in the butt. >_>10:28
Cyprenebut it'll run10:28
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zorg_the_falsebtw anybody got an idea on how to make my computer reboot when i press the 'reset button' on my laptop ? if was working on edgy, but on feisty i got a logout window popping up instead10:31
mm_202zorg_the_false: apt-get hotkeys should do the trick10:32
mm_202Let me check and make sure thats the one you want10:32
zorg_the_falseok looking10:32
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mm_202Yeah, that should do the trick.10:34
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zorg_the_falsehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuLaptopButtons <- they show a10:36
zorg_the_false10:36
zorg_the_falseXF86PowerOff10:36
zorg_the_falsemm_202: do you know how i can findout which event is sent when i press this button10:37
wordCyprene: i'd reccomend trying to do fsck from a knoppix live cd10:38
mm_202zorg_the_false: yeah, one min and I'll find it10:38
wordCyprene: also to backup really important files just in case10:38
zorg_the_falsemm_202: ok :)10:38
Cyprenethanks10:38
CypreneGiven how well everything else seems to be running...10:38
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CypreneI'll just deal10:39
Cyprenelol10:39
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mm_202zorg_the_false: run xev from a console window, then just focus on the window that pops up and hit whatever keys you want and the console will give you all the info.10:41
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wordCyprene: heh, at least until gutsy comes out eh? ;)10:42
CypreneYeah I guess so.  How much longer on that?10:43
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zorglu_mm_202: ok i pressed a bit too hard on it :)10:44
zorglu_running xev now :)10:44
wordCyprene: sometime in october i believe10:44
Cyprenenice10:45
mm_202zorglu_: lol, okay, I was wondering what you did :)10:45
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zorglu_mm_202: hotkeys seems more for special keyboard keys, like volumeup, email etc..., no ?10:52
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zorglu_mm_202: i cant find anything related to XF86PowerOff which is the key code triggered when i press the reset button10:52
zorglu_https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuPowerManagement <- this page says it is handled by kubuntupowermanager10:52
zorglu_no idea what is this :)10:53
mm_202zorglu_: lol, hotkeys _should_ handle it.  But it depends on how the laptop has the reset button wired.10:53
mm_202What kind of laptop is it?10:53
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hangthedj_serverzorglu_: i think its handled now by kmilo10:54
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hangthedj_serverthe problem is kmilo doesn't support very many laptops, so it puts you in generic.10:55
zorglu_mm_202: this is a sony viao but i dont think it matter10:55
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hangthedj_server!find kmilo10:55
zorglu_hangthedj_server: all was working ok in edgy, and even with feisty, the poweroff works ok from kdm (but not once logged)10:55
ubotuFound: kmilo, kmilo-legacy10:56
zorglu_i bet on a bug :)10:56
hangthedj_server!info kmilo10:56
ubotukmilo: laptop special keys support for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 64 kB, installed size 240 kB10:56
zorglu_ok will look kmillo10:56
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mm_202zorglu_: most laptops that Ive seen dont even have a reset button.  Sorry for steering you down the wrong path, thats what worked for me.10:56
mm_202Hopefully hangthedj_server's suggestions will help.10:57
zorglu_    state 0x0, keycode 222 (keysym 0x1008ff2a, XF86PowerOff), same_screen YES, <- and now i get a symbol for it :)10:57
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mm_202lol, is that good or bad?10:57
zorglu_mm_202: no problem. by reset button, i meant pressing the poweroff button during a small amount of time10:57
zorglu_mm_202: it is more readable :)10:58
zorglu_! jme- to get a symbol for my sony viao reset button10:58
zorglu_keycode 222 = XF86PowerOff10:58
zorglu_i had to put that in ~/.xmodmap10:58
zorglu_notive the "!" :) they didnt want to use the usual # i guess :)10:58
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zorglu_ok kmilo time :)10:59
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hangthedj_serverzorglu_: i think if you install kmilo-legacy it will add a vaio option in the control center10:59
hangthedj_server!info kmilo-legacy10:59
ubotukmilo-legacy: non-standard plugins for KMilo. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 110 kB, installed size 404 kB10:59
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zorglu_kmilo doesnt have any executable11:00
zorglu_and i already had it installed11:01
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zorglu_how do i run it ? :)11:01
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hangthedj_serverits not a program, its a .so library.11:01
hangthedj_serverif you install the kmilo-legacy, and go to the kde control center, i think you should have a sony option11:02
hangthedj_serveri have one, and i have a toshiba laptop11:02
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zorglu_ok trying :)11:02
mm_202zorglu_: Good luck with that, its 4:02a for me, so Im going to go to bed.  Thanks again for the cd - :)11:03
zorglu_:)11:03
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salvatore_hi all11:06
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salvatore_I have a svcd. Can I convert it to divx/xvid?11:06
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radekhi everybody, may I ask you about pinning under kubuntu?11:07
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zorglu_what is pinning ?11:07
Jucatopinning a specific package to a specific version?11:08
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zorglu_mouaouaoua11:12
zorglu_i hate them11:12
zorglu_all without exception11:12
zorglu_now i even get 2 popup11:12
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hangthedj_serverzorglu_: sorry i missed what you said before mouaouaoua11:16
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zorglu_q. when i press the laptop 'shutdown' button for a short amount of time, i get a popup of a logout window, when i cancel, i get *another* one. i would like to get 0 logout window (and shutdown the box) or only one, any hint ?11:31
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zorglu_grumble11:31
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anthronautzorglu: why don't you shut down from the console?11:34
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zorglu_anthronaut: in fact, the 'use case' is 'i launch a movie at night, fall asleep before it, wake up later in the middle of the night, and wish to shutdown the box'11:36
zorglu_anthronaut: one popup is already painfull when halfasleep, imagine cmdline :)11:36
vbgunzzorglu_: what happens if you keep holding it down (hard boot)?11:36
anthronautzorglu_ yes, you've got a point there ;-)11:37
zorglu_vbgunz: this is like pulling the plug, aka no state saving. risk of file loss, funky state in open apps etc...11:37
vbgunzyeah, I understand, what then are you trying to do? hibernate or suspend it?11:38
zorglu_more like shutdown but properly11:38
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vbgunzzorglu_: man shutdown11:39
zorglu_i had only one popup until i tried to fix it this morning :)11:39
zorglu_vbgunz: :))11:39
vbgunzperhaps create a script.sh file, set up a shortcut to it and try that :)11:39
zorglu_vbgunz: wanna bet they dont talk about XFpoweroff ? :)11:40
vbgunznot sure what that is :/11:40
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zorglu_ok while im at breaking my conf i will upgrade package11:40
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zorglu_vbgunz: this is the X event which is triggered when i press the 'poweroff' button of my laptop for a short moment11:40
zorglu_the one the logout window intercept, i dunno how :)11:41
vbgunzahh11:41
vbgunzlooking through man, I think you want shutdown -P11:41
vbgunzshuts down cleanly then powers off11:41
zorglu_yep but how do i do that from the poweroff button of my laptop11:41
vbgunzmaybe find out how to change that shortcut, its probably considered a button like all the rest11:42
vbgunzinteresting question though, I never thought about it11:42
zorglu_fix it and tell me ? :)11:42
vbgunzheh11:43
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zorglu_ok i give up and decide it will be fixed on the next upgrade11:49
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zorglu_which i will do as a from scratch install11:49
keethello11:49
keetje tu njak ech?11:49
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zorglu_!ch11:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:49
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zorglu_keet: this is a english channel, what is the country code of your language ? e.g. !fr or !de11:50
anthronaut!cz11:50
ubotuesk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.11:50
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zorglu_ok :)11:50
keetthanx11:51
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anthronautprosm11:51
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emilsedghanyone knows a game similiar to 'The Age of Empires' in GNU/Linux? Im really miss it...11:59
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Jucato!info freeciv12:00
ubotuPackage freeciv does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas12:00
Jucatobay...12:00
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stian;)12:01
emilsedghJucato: thanks12:01
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Jucato!info freeciv-client12:01
ubotuPackage freeciv-client does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas12:01
CypreneThat's odd, I know I remembered seeing it there.12:01
Jucatoer sorry. just look for freeciv hehehe12:01
Jucatoyeah it's there12:01
ymsgubotu  french room12:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about french room - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:02
JucatoI just didn't use the correct name12:02
ymsgpls12:02
Jucato!fr | ymsg12:02
ubotuymsg: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:02
ymsgty12:02
emilsedghJucato: thats turn based!12:02
Jucatooh yeah.. hm.. dunno of anything else :(12:02
Jucato!games12:02
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php12:02
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mcquaidi remember kde having an option to change screen resolution in control panel.  I don't seem to have that12:02
mcquaidis there a pkg I could be missing?12:02
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Jucatomcquaid: nothing in System Settings -> Monitor & Display?12:03
mcquaidno i don't have that12:03
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emilsedghmcquaid: system settings->Peripherals->Display12:03
Jucatomcquaid: you might be missing "kde-guidance"12:03
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Jucatoemilsedgh: you're mixing KControl and System Settings12:03
mcquaidhmm i have guidance12:04
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Jucatomcquaid: you're sure you're using System Settings (and not KControl)?12:04
Jucatoif you're looking at KControl, emilsedgh's directions are correct12:04
emilsedghJucato: ya, sorry12:04
mcquaidsorry i am in kde control center12:04
Jucatoheh12:05
JucatoKControl -> Peripherals -> DIsplay12:05
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emilsedghmcquaid: run kcmshell displayconfig12:05
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Jucatoactually, "displayconfig" is enough :)12:05
mcquaidok thx there it is.  But I don't see anywhere to actually get here from the menus12:06
Jucatomcquaid: because Kubuntu uses System Settings, not KControl, by default. so it's K Menu -> System Settings12:07
Jucatothen in System Settings -> Monitor & Display12:07
emilsedghI think they both should be removed, Settings:/ KIO slave is the best!12:07
Jucatokcontrol will be gone in KDE 4 anyway12:08
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mcquaidhmm, i don't have monitor & display12:08
Jucatomcquaid: would it be possible for you to upload a screenshot somewhere?12:08
mcquaidok one sec12:08
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mcquaidJucato, http://www.mediafire.com/?5vpfyte9mii12:13
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Jucatook hold on a sec12:14
mcquaidk12:14
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Jucatomcquaid: that's because you are using KControl, not System Settings. they are 2 slightly different things. System Settings is the one that Kubuntu uses by default and it's in the K Menu12:15
mcquaidok what package provides system settings?12:15
JucatoKControl and System Settings use different groupings for settings.12:15
Jucatoer.. are you using Kubuntu?12:15
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mcquaidyes12:15
Jucatothen System Settings is already there. it's installed by default12:16
Jucato(presuming you made a default Kubuntu installation12:16
mcquaidi didn't outright install kde-desktop, tried a minimal approach of installing and might have missed some kde components12:16
mcquaida lot of the extras kde-desktop installs, i didn't want12:16
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Jucatoif you're more comfortable using KControl then use that instead.12:17
Jucatoin KControl the settings for Display would be under the Peripherals group12:17
mcquaidsigh... it's there....12:17
mcquaiddoh12:17
Jucato...12:17
mcquaidbut i do recall now the other style 'system settings'12:18
mcquaidi think that's what threw me off12:18
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Jucatothe app is "kde-systemsettings" in the package manager12:18
mcquaidbingo, i didn't have that, thx12:19
mcquaidhmm, just tried to change the res, didn't work though (as admin)12:19
Jucatoyou wouldn't really have that if you installed a minimal kde installation.12:19
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mcquaidyeah, i've noticed i was missing a few things along the way,  just been installing as needed12:20
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mcquaidthx again12:22
Jucatosure12:23
owlhi12:23
emilsedghguys, is there any kubuntu development channel? I want to suggest that KMilo's Skin patch goes into 7.10...12:23
Jucatoemilsedgh: #kubuntu-devel but it's a Sunday so..12:23
emilsedghthanks Jucato12:23
Jucatodon't expect to get much answer today though :P12:24
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enryhi12:28
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Jucatoemilsedgh: this seems to be the only patch that was included in kmilo for gutsy: http://blog.guillermoamaral.com/2007/04/14/patch-kde-kmilo-compact-dialog/12:32
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emilsedghJucato: ah, Thanks God! :P12:33
Jucatowas that the one you were looking for?12:34
emilsedghJucato: is it applied in gutsy?12:34
emilsedghJucato: exaclty! just I find it on kde-apps12:34
Jucatoaccording to http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/k/kdeutils/kdeutils_3.5.7-1ubuntu4/changelog it has been since May12:34
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Jucatoalthough I can't test it really12:34
emilsedghJucato: there was a kubuntu package for it in comments, but is server were down12:34
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Jucatolet me double check12:35
emilsedghJucato: do you run Gutsy?12:35
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Jucatoyep12:36
JucatoI just check the changelogs12:36
JucatoI can't check if it works since I'm not on laptop12:36
Jucatoand my laptop isn't a thinkpad12:36
Jucato(nor does it have volume up/down buttons)12:37
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emilsedghJucato: try this (please): dcop kded kmilod displayText Hello12:37
Jucatosmall one12:38
Jucatolet me see how that looks on feisty12:38
sash_hi display driver pls help www.externalthree.com/2.png12:39
emilsedghJucato: so thats fixed...its soo stupid in feisty12:39
Jucatotesting12:39
Jucatosash_: Feisty or Gutsy?12:39
sash_feisty12:39
Jucatosash_: try reinstalling the package named "kde-guidance" ?12:40
Jucatoemilsedgh: yeah fixed in Gutsy :)12:40
Jucato(yeah it does look silly on feisty hahaha)12:40
emilsedghJucato: Thanks! really good news (this was one of those things that make me feel Ubuntu is really more polished than Kubuntu)12:41
Jucato:)12:41
Jucatoit's not Kubuntu's fault though.. it's just that the default KMilo theme kinda sucked..12:41
Jucatos/theme/appearance12:42
tim_anyone here use SKIM / scim / xim?12:43
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emilsedghJucato: agreed, but should be fixed in distro's...kubuntu is there to avoid KDE and other packages, faults and not good-enough configurations...12:43
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emilsedghis there any stats to show that how many users does kubuntu have?12:45
Jucatonone that I know of12:46
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emilsedghpag: wb12:47
pagemilsedgh, wb? :)12:48
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crazylazyhey you guys!12:48
crazylazyHow can I setup a PXE server on a winxp that installs Kubuntu?12:48
crazylazyAnyone there?12:49
pagcrazylazy, yup.12:50
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sash_hey Jucato not resolved12:50
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Jucatosash_: hm... not sure what's wrong :(12:51
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sash_so i am install ati.amd.com driver so i dunno how remove ?12:52
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emilsedghsash_: try running displayconfig please...12:52
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krautmoin12:55
crazylazyHow can I get rid of the bios pass, too boot Kubuntu?12:56
crazylazyIt is a Dell Latitude D6301'12:56
owl*cough* might you should take your laptop's guide and take a look how to set/unset a bios-password... *hint* *hint*12:57
crazylazyI don't have the guide, I lost it.12:57
emilsedghcrazylazy: you have to disable it from Bios... I think, press F2 (I think) button when Bios is loading... (it will say which key you have to press to enter the Bios Setup, I think its F2)12:57
crazylazyBut I don't have the bios password, and wubi won't work in a limited account12:58
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owl*cough* might you should ask google for 'how to get a lost bios-pwd on a dell latitude' or 'master-pwds for dell latitude' or something different. oh. and normally the customer has a .pdf somewhere...12:59
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crazylazyA pdf? I shall look.01:00
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emilsedghcrazylazy: in a PC you could open the case and take out the BIOS Password and return it into its place, it will remove the pass, but on a laptop i dunno..01:00
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crazylazyHow can I make wubi work on a restricted account?01:02
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Jucatoyou'll have to ask in a wubi channel or forum...01:02
Jucato!wubi01:02
ubotuwubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html01:02
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tim_so like what does wubi do that just using the bootloader wouldnt?01:04
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crazylazyIt installs Kubuntu01:06
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naseri have router modem its work in kde desktop (kubuntu) but not working in gnome (ubuntu)01:13
naser??01:13
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naser i have network card and router modem its work in kde desktop but in gnome doesnt work ?????01:15
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adaptrof course, rephrase the statement using even more question marks - that'll work01:16
emilsedghnaser: please do not repeat.now whats the matter...its working on kde and this is the Kubuntu's support channel...if you have problems with ubuntu, go to #ubuntu01:17
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TinkY_WinkYconnect irc.omega.bg01:28
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xplornethello01:39
carsten_hallo01:39
emilsedghhi01:39
carsten_ist da einer auf meiner welle01:39
emilsedgh!de01:40
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:40
xplorneti'm nubie in kubuntu T_T01:40
xplorneti can't configure my display setting01:41
xplornetanyone can help me ?01:41
emilsedghxplornet: go to SystemSettings->monitor & display...01:41
xplornetyup01:42
xplorneti can't change display to 1024x74001:42
xplornetthere's only 800x60001:42
emilsedghxplornet: isnt in your list?01:43
xplornetyup01:43
emilsedghxplornet: open konsole, then type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:43
fritschxplornet: would try with policy high, because of too many questions01:44
fritschxplornet: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg01:44
emilsedghis there any plan to have somthing similliar to ubuntu 7.10's Xorg configurator in kubuntu?01:45
xplornetvideo card bus identifier01:45
xplornetmy grapchic card is geforce2 mx40001:46
emilsedghxplornet: do not touch the steps that you do not know01:46
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xplornetis there pci 1:0:0 true ?01:47
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adenicio##window02:03
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adenicio# # windows02:04
Jucatohm...02:04
adenicio## windows02:04
Jucatoplease do not spam02:04
adenicioJucato: how do i get in the chat windows?02:05
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Jucato /j #channel_name02:05
Jucatoor just click on the channel name02:05
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adenicio#windows02:06
Jucato???02:06
volnhi, i'm noticed that kmix doesn't start during booting kubuntu, any idea?02:07
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Jucatovoln: if you leave it running when you logout, it should restart when you login. unless you turned off the behavior of KDE's Session Manager02:08
nosrednaekimvoln: start it manually, and them it should start automaticall every time again02:08
emilsedghvoln: Run it and save your session :)02:08
nosrednaekimJucato: hey, BTW, how would one go about joining the kubuntu support team on launchpad?02:08
Jucatowhich team?02:08
nosrednaekimJucato: the kubuntu support team. I mean, what credentials/experience do you need?02:10
JucatoI don't see a Kubuntu Support Team on Launchpad...02:10
adenicioJucato: how do i get read and rite acces to my mount xp partition for me to delete these virus that come from i dont know where02:11
Jucato!ntfs02:11
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse02:11
Jucato!ntfs-3g02:11
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions02:11
Jucatoadenicio: ^^^^^02:11
Jucatonosrednaekim: which specific team on Launchpad are you talking about?02:12
emilsedghJucato: is there any 'Team'? how could I join? I want to help as I can...02:12
JucatoThese are the Kubuntu teams on Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/people/?name=kubuntu&searchfor=teamsonly02:12
Jucatothere are other teams for all *buntus, like the Bug team, documentation team, etc02:13
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nosrednaekimfinding it... BTW... take a look at this http://marco-za.blogspot.com/2007/08/google-earth-flight-simulator.html02:13
Jucatoyou have to be more specific..02:13
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adeniciojucato i have my save data on my xp music etc because on the hdd with linux its to small02:14
nosrednaekimyeah yeah... i'm finding the page.02:14
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Jucatoadenicio: those links give you instructions on how to mount your windows partitions so you can write to them02:15
adenicioJucato: what link?02:15
Jucatoread up. the one given by the bot02:16
nosrednaekimJucato: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuSupportTeam?highlight=%28support%29%7C%28team%2902:16
adenicioJucato: oh ok its normal i didnt see it u didnt't put my name02:16
Jucatoyes I did, after the bot02:16
Jucato[20:11]  <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions02:17
Jucato[20:11]  <Jucato> adenicio: ^^^^^02:17
Jucatoadenicio: oh that one... um.. how should I say this... that team no longer exists...02:17
adenicioJucato: lol is that to show me above lol mdr hahaha02:17
adenicio!oh my02:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about oh my - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:17
nosrednaekimJucato: was tat meant for me?02:18
Jucatonosrednaekim: yeah sorry02:18
Jucatosorry guys doing too many things at the same time...02:19
nosrednaekimoh.... well thats ok. I was just wondering02:19
Jucatoadenicio: just follow the link about Mounting Windows Partitions02:19
Jucatonosrednaekim, emilsedgh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingKubuntu | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HelpingUbuntu | http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate02:20
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emilsedghJucato: I should learn tp create packages, I did it once but it was never so seroius...where could I get help on that? here?02:22
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Jucato!motu02:22
ubotumotu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU02:22
Jucatoalthough there are many other ways to contribute aside from packaging. just thought you'd like to know :)02:23
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emilsedghJucato: ya, but Packagin is the most intresting one to me, I tried it before... ;)02:24
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Jucatohehe ok02:24
Jucatoemilsedgh: head over to #ubuntu-motu if you need help and guidance as well. make sure you read the docs too02:25
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Jucatoyou would also want to read the Debian New Maintainer's Guide and Debian Developer guide for packaging as they are the basis for *buntu packaging as well02:25
emilsedghJucato: oh sure I will read the **** manual ;)02:25
Jucatoread the free manual. yes :)02:26
nosrednaekimlol02:26
emilsedgh:P02:26
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JucatoI personally suggest you start with the Debian NM one first, and the Ubuntu packaging guide later...02:27
Jucatobut that's just me. and I'm not a packager yet hahaha02:27
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emilsedghlol02:28
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gnitgood afternoon all. Does anybody have kubuntu installed on a aspire 3690? I need long-distance help with microphone settings (mum's using it in another country)02:30
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gnitthat's an acer btw.02:30
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nosrednaekimgnit: don't have one... but take a look at www.linux-laptop.net02:32
gnitk. cheer02:32
gnits02:32
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zipperAnyone know a good sysinfo script for xchat?02:34
Jucatohm... try asking in #ubuntu or #gnome but not really sure02:35
Jucatomaybe there's an #xchat channel?02:35
gnitno joy on the linux-laptop page :(02:35
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Jucato!laptop02:35
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org02:35
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nosrednaekimah nice... didn't know there was that little help-topic02:36
BluesKajHowdy all :)02:37
Jucatoelow02:37
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nosrednaekim'lo02:38
Jucatothanks!02:38
gnitNice, ultimately unhelpful. I'm trying to get my mother's microphone working, but she's 4,000 miles away. I was hoping somebody here had experience with exactly what settings to give on the card.02:38
waylandbilldon't leave me out in the cold BluesKaj02:38
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nosrednaekimmy coffee froze on its trip here.... you shouldn't live in canada BluesKaj02:38
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BluesKajI sure need one ...sleepy this morn02:38
BluesKajwhadya mean it's 16C here already :)02:39
nosrednaekim;)02:39
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ymsgwesh la famille02:40
BluesKajbetter check yer geography and don't believe all the rumours about our country ...however it does discourage the meek  :)02:40
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waylandbillBluesKaj: I'm sure you don't have to go too far north to get chillier. :)02:41
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BluesKajwaylandbill, how far north do you envsion us to be ?02:43
Jucato(too far north from me... that's all that matters...)02:43
BluesKajwimps! :)02:44
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: yeah yeah... you are farther south than Maine.02:44
waylandbillyou're in ontario which has most of it's population in the southern most area, but I'm thinking a couple hundred miles north could make a difference.02:44
nosrednaekimand than then north pole as well02:44
JucatoWIMP = Window, Icon, Mouse, Pointer... a.k.a. GUI's :P02:44
Jucatoer ok.. veering offtopic  :)02:44
BluesKajwaylandbill,  it doe make a difference ...and away from all the pollution and heatwaves , altho it's been over 30C here a lot this summer02:45
waylandbillslightly. :)02:45
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smirnoffdo u have any idea on intalling netbeans kubuntu ?02:47
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RichardBHhi02:47
RichardBHstupid question: if I install something from adept (say, GvR), where does it put it?02:48
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nosrednaekimRichardBH: the actual package that you DL,or when its installed?02:48
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RichardBHnosrednaekim: when its installed02:49
smirnoffi downloaded form a website ... adept gives error when i try to install from there02:49
Jucato!netbeans02:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about netbeans - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:49
RichardBHmost things seem to get added to the K Menu thing, but some of the games and stuff havent shown up02:49
Jucato!info netbeans5.5 | smirnoff02:50
ubotusmirnoff: netbeans5.5: NetBeans IDE for development of applications in Java. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 5.5-0.59 (feisty), package size 33 kB, installed size 172 kB02:50
nosrednaekimRichardBH: many many many different places :) click on a package->details->installed files02:50
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BluesKajwaylandbill, yer in new york state , right ?02:50
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adenicionosrednaekim: where is  Applications  System Tools  NTFS Configuration Tool?02:51
RichardBHnosrednaekim: ah, thanks - i was trying to avoid reopening adept, but if thats the way then ill just have to be patient :P02:51
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nosrednaekimRichardBH: there is a command line way as well. forget what it was tho ;)02:51
RichardBHadenicio: are you having the problem that it doesnt load when you click it?02:51
nosrednaekimadenicio: within "advanced"02:51
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Jucatonosrednaekim: I think he's reading GNOME/Ubuntu instructions...02:52
sairinloteguys have u installed google earth on 7.0.4 ?02:52
nosrednaekimoh..lol02:52
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adenicioRichardBH: no im trying to put ntfs -3g to work im folowing the instrtion from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions02:52
nosrednaekimnope.... I haven't... did you see the flight sim for it?02:52
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RichardBHadenicio: ah, fair enough02:53
adenicioRichardBH:  where is  Applications  System Tools  NTFS Configuration Tool?02:53
waylandbillBluesKaj: yup. about 2 hours from ontario border.02:53
enzohallo wie gehtz euch??02:53
nosrednaekim!de02:53
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de02:53
BluesKajright , so you ain't in any banana belt either :)02:54
RichardBHadenicio: i dont know where the actual file is, sorry02:54
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adenicioRichardBH: it's not a file02:55
RichardBHadenicio: oh02:55
adenicioRichardBH: it's like lookin for amarok.to find it go in K-menu>multimedia02:55
RichardBHcant help you there then, sorry02:55
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BluesKajwaylandbill, got google earth , copy&paste this into the searchbar: 46.14N 81.15W the resolution isn't vg but it shows the are well enuff02:56
nosrednaekimadenicio: its probably in systemsettings->advanced02:56
BluesKajarea02:56
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nosrednaekimBluesKaj: did you hear about the flight sim easter egg for GE?02:57
BluesKajnosrednaekim, the what ?02:57
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nosrednaekimBluesKaj: lol.... http://marco-za.blogspot.com/2007/08/google-earth-flight-simulator.html02:57
waylandbillBluesKaj: ok02:58
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Pirate_Hunterhow do I access kde wizard again02:58
nosrednaekimkpersonalizer I think02:59
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nosrednaekimif thats what oyu mean02:59
waylandbilldon't have google earth on the laptop. Installing now.02:59
clau85hello. an upgrade has broken my kubuntu 7.04 on my laptop03:00
BluesKajnosrednaekim, cool ...I'll have to install the latest GE :)03:00
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Pirate_Hunterhow do I access kde wizard again?03:00
clau85it boots up, but i get no login screen, just a black one03:00
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clau85in recovery mode i have no problem to startx, though03:00
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: I'd do it if I had the bandwidth.03:00
Pirate_Hunter!wizard03:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wizard - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:00
nosrednaekimclau85: any error messages?03:01
emilsedghPirate_Hunter: which wizard? first boot wizard?03:01
clau85nosrednaekim: no, i can't see any03:01
nosrednaekimPirate_Hunter: what do you mean?03:01
nosrednaekimwhat wizard03:01
emilsedghPirate_Hunter: if you want the first boot wizard, run kpersonalizer03:01
Pirate_Hunteremilsedgh, nosrednaekim: yeha the boot theme wizard03:01
nosrednaekimboot theme? oh....03:02
nosrednaekim!bootsplash03:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:02
emilsedghPirate_Hunter: run kpersonalizer03:02
Pirate_Hunteremilsedgh: thanx that did it03:02
waylandbillthe only thing is that kpersonalizer has to be installed, it's not a default package anymore.03:03
adenicioemilsedgh: i install clamAV antivirus but it detects the viruses in my xp but how do it clean or delete?or it just just detect?03:03
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Pirate_Hunterwaylandbill: it is on my feisty with kde03:04
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clau85found the proble, it was the fglrx driver03:04
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clau85the upgrade installed a new kernel version, that03:05
clau85that's why03:05
emilsedghadenicio: sorry, i dunno, i havent any winxp03:05
adeniciolol03:05
adenicionosrednaekim:  i install clamAV antivirus but it detects the viruses in my xp but how do it clean or delete?or it just just detect?03:05
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nosrednaekimclau85: ah.... and you manually installed your old one03:05
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clau85nosrednaekim: exactly. is there a way to do it automatically?03:07
nosrednaekimclau85: yeah. grab the "restricted-manager" package.03:07
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nosrednaekimclau85: run it and it will automatically install your drivers.03:08
nosrednaekimof course, thats from within X.03:08
clau85nosrednaekim: awesome, cool, thanks :)03:08
nosrednaekimadenicio: I don't use XP03:08
timclam does not repair files03:09
adenicionosrednaekim: you dont use it or you dont have it?03:09
timits designed for inbox filtering you see03:09
jhutchinsnosrednaekim: Seriously, restricted-manager doesn't work from the console?03:09
timso its supposed to spot and delete evil emails03:09
timif system files are infected your best off deleting stuff and doing a reinstall to get your XP partition running (assuming broke)03:10
BluesKajhmm,  kpersonalizer is assuming a kde 356 installation , i don't imagine that a 357 installation will react differntly to it's settings03:10
clau85bye03:10
waylandbillI found it easier to stop using xp than fight the viruses and spyware. :)03:10
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timadenico: what kind of files are infected03:11
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nosrednaekimjhutchins: nope... it won't03:11
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Pirate_Hunterwaylandbill: lol it wouldnt be M$ xp without the viruses03:13
Pirate_Hunterso many idle ppl03:13
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nosrednaekimjhutchins: I know... thats a terrible thing.... maybe i'll go code a CLI frontend :)03:14
BluesKajnosrednaekim, if you run :sudo restricted-manager , it will open a dialog on the desktop03:14
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: not if you are in the CLI03:14
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nosrednaekimwith no X03:14
BluesKajahh , no X03:15
Pirate_Hunterseriously if linux has a win xp virus i know it wont make a difference but how do we/I clean it up03:15
nosrednaekimunless you have wine ;)03:15
BluesKaj!virus | Pirate_Hunter03:15
ubotuPirate_Hunter: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2103:15
adenicioCAN ANY ONE GIVE ME AND ANTIVIRUS that can clean or DESTROY?03:15
llutzdestroy= rm $infected_file03:16
Pirate_HunterBluesKaj: ive read that but the thing is i use xp a lot and linux on my personal time also my other hd's are xp so if my linux gets infected it will infect the other hd's03:16
adenicioCAN ANY ONE GIVE ME AND ANTIVIRUS that can clean or DESTROY?03:16
nosrednaekim!patience | adenicio03:16
ubotuadenicio: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:16
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RurouniJonesThis has to be trolling right?03:16
Jucato!caps | adenicio03:17
ubotuadenicio: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.03:17
adenicio!ohmy| nosrednaekim03:17
ubotunosrednaekim: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:17
adeniciolol03:17
nosrednaekimtroll...03:17
Pirate_Huntersince were on the topic of antivirus what are the antivirus options for linux?03:17
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Jucatoclamav/klamav for one03:18
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nosrednaekim!antivirus | Pirate_Hunter03:18
ubotuPirate_Hunter: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus03:18
RurouniJonesclamav can be used to virus scan windows partitions03:18
BluesKajPirate_Hunter, your linux won't be infected but your other windows OS's will be03:18
RurouniJonesfor windows viruses...which don't affect linux03:18
inaetyantivirus is so useless03:18
Jucatothat really depends03:18
BluesKajPirate_Hunter, so make sure windows is protected03:18
Pirate_HunterBluesKaj, nosrednaekim: i knwo thats the point i was trying to make and it is a brother going to windows to clean it up while I could do it from linux. Also if I clean it on windows it still means ive got a virus on linux still03:19
waylandbillBluesKaj: you're a little more north than I envisioned. :)03:19
Pirate_Hunteryes I do use windows a lot03:19
adenicioinaety: its not if u stil sometime go back to windows wich is a problem if u got a flood of 62 viruses that slows down your pc like hell03:19
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inaetyadenicio: well if you try not to get viruses on windows you won't...well i never have but i really just visit work sites on windows03:20
Pirate_Hunterdo ppl heer understand the point im trying to make or am i just confusing everyone03:20
JucatoPirate_Hunter: weren't you already given 2 names of antivirus software?03:21
BluesKajwaylandbill, it's nice here ... away from the " big smoke "...I'm retired and we live in a tourist area, that ppl move to after leaving the "ratrace"03:21
Pirate_HunterJucato: nope? was I?03:21
kofanyHi i have problem with start kubuntu on my Laptop Compaq Presario with GEFORCE GO 6150. After when the system is loaded as live i have sound but all time black screen03:21
llutzadenicio: if you got a flood of 62 virusses you have a generic user-problem. no scanner can help you then03:21
inaetyPirate_Hunter: are you saying if you get a virus on your windows partition it will affect your linux partition?03:21
JucatoPirate_Hunter: twice03:21
RurouniJonesPirate_Hunter: ClamAV and Aegis was suggested by various people03:21
Pirate_HunterJucato: sorry must have missed it03:21
Jucato <ubotu> Pirate_Hunter: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus03:22
inaety!linuxvirus03:22
ubotuThe short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=2103:22
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Pirate_Hunterinaety: no what im saying if I get a virus on linux it will affect xp but cleaning xp on its own would be useless cause next time a user logs into linux the vrirus affects xp again and thats the end of that03:22
timdoes anyone use P2P? if so what program do you use? and is gIFT dead?03:23
JucatoPirate_Hunter: you might want to Google around for some guides on how to clean XP from Linux, as it involves writing to Windows partitions03:23
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Pirate_HunterRurouniJones: sorry didnt see that from before, im multi-tasking03:23
Jucato(wow, you're not paying attention to us and you expect us to understand you? :P)03:23
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adeniciollutz:  Pirate_Hunter:  inaety: is it possible to install an xp antivirus with wine like pc-cilling,kasperkey,norton,panda etc?03:24
Pirate_Hunteri said multi-tasking its different03:24
llutzadenicio: it's useless03:24
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Pirate_Hunteradenicio: that woul be useless03:24
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inaetyPirate_Hunter: i doubt you will "give" windows a virus by cleaning it on linux because IIRC to clean another partition you need root priveledges and unless the virus has your root password then you should be okay03:24
Pirate_Hunteradenicio: i understand what ur trying to do but no point on linux03:24
inaetyadenicio: that's ....bad03:24
BluesKajJucato, and everyone ..he's asking if his linux install will store or hide a virus even tho it doesn't affect kubuntu but loads as son as he runs window sfiles03:24
Pirate_Hunterinaety: hmmm you have a point which I didnt think about03:25
inaetyohh03:25
inaetyPirate_Hunter: what BluesKaj i dunno03:25
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inaetysaid*03:25
adeniciollutz:  Pirate_Hunter:  inaety: yeah but i just cant format my xp like that i dont have no space to back up my stuff03:25
adenicio:(03:25
inaetyadenicio: scan it with ClamAV03:25
Jucatoafaik, you can transfer a virus if you were sent an infected file and then sent that file to a Windows machine... iirc03:26
llutzadenicio: if you don't have a backup, your data isn't important. so you're losing nothing03:26
Pirate_HunterBluesKaj: that would be interesting specially how m$ viruses are becoming more complex03:26
adenicioinaety: clam only detects it cant delete them03:26
inaetyadenicio: you can detect them, then www.google.com for a virus scanner that can fix the known problems03:26
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Pirate_Hunteradenicio: no point backing up if you have 62 viruses03:26
anandanbuI have downloaded the .bin file of Real Player 10 from their website for firefox and now how do i install it in Ubuntu 7.0403:26
BluesKajyeah Jucato , I think that's what Pirate_Hunter is worried about ...i think it's a genuine concern :P03:26
kofanycan somebody help me?03:27
Jucato!somebody | kofany03:27
ubotukofany: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:27
adeniciollutz: lol it's all my music,videos,programmes everything03:27
adenicioO_O03:27
JucatoBluesKaj: to which we answered clamav... apparently he was too busy to notice :P03:27
Pirate_HunterBluesKaj: you hit the nail on the head thats correct03:27
kofanyi ask 2 times...03:27
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kofanyS:03:27
llutzadenicio: you should have thought about that earlier03:27
Pirate_HunterJucato: i did notice03:28
kofanyHi i have problem with start kubuntu on my Laptop Compaq Presario with GEFORCE GO 6150. After when the system is loaded as live i have sound but all time black screen? Do You have any solutions?03:28
computeri never saw that03:28
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timis it a new install?03:28
kofanyyeep03:28
JucatoLive CD?03:28
kofanyyeep03:28
Jucatoso it's not a new install :)03:28
emilsedghkofany: press alt+ctrl+f1, then login and run this command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:28
Pirate_Hunteradenicio: get a pc from a family member and make sure they ahve antivirus than send ur file with an rj11 cable than format ur pc03:29
Jucatoemilsedgh: would be nice if he stopped X first.. but that could work too :P03:29
inaetyGEFORCE GO 6150 isnt on the list03:29
inaetyi dont think03:29
adeniciollutz: i had back ups but my sis neede back up too so i store my things on my pc to make space on my external hdd but my sis did it at the last moment she had to take the plane so some of her importan things had to stay on my hdd03:29
kofanyinaety: on the list of what?03:29
emilsedghJucato: sure you have better experience... ;)03:29
Pirate_Hunteradenicio: i jsut told you what to do03:29
BluesKajPirate_Hunter, well you have your answer ClamAV03:29
inaetyhttp://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html03:29
inaetykofany: &03:30
inaety^*03:30
Pirate_HunterBluesKaj: yeah i know03:30
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adenicioPirate_Hunter: im allready looking03:30
Jucatoemilsedgh: it would still work. I just feel more comfortable shutting it down before reconfigure hahah. but still works03:30
emilsedgh;)03:30
Pirate_Hunteradenicio: huh? for a fmaily member or for a pc to borrow03:30
Pirate_Hunter*family03:31
inaetyadenicio: do you have a cd burner?03:31
BluesKajwaylandbill, the new google earth is very cool03:31
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inaetyBluesKaj: did you know kde made a "google earth" i forget the name03:31
computerawasome03:31
JucatoMarble03:32
Jucatoit's not exactly google earth :P03:32
inaetyyeah that its03:32
Pirate_Hunterinaety: there woulld be no point if his files are infected "thats my opinion"03:32
adenicioPirate_Hunter: oh lol no sorry that wasnt for u.ill just get my 20gig install xp quick with an anti-v03:32
Jucatoit's just a map kind of thingy03:32
emilsedghinaety: marble :) thats not a google earth...03:32
kofanyinaety: so if is not on the list it will not work on linux?03:32
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inaetykofany: it just means that no one has a found a fix yet IIRC03:32
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inaetyPirate_Hunter: well he scan those 10 files he has for virus and then go from there03:33
inaetyPirate_Hunter: for instance if the .doc is infected he can just copy and paste into a new .doc03:33
Pirate_Hunterinaety: i dont think tis that easy03:33
spiroohello everyone, I know the problem with the sound in linux. The problem is the mixer. If you turn the volume down in linux in mixer or playback app and then turn volume up on your speakers the sound is better03:33
Max-Pkofany, try to change the screen resolution (1024x768, 800x600 ...)03:33
inaetyPirate_Hunter: why wouldnt it?03:33
Pirate_Hunterinaety: if its infected depending what it is if he opens it it could be fatal for the pc03:34
_Shade_how can i install programs using svn ? what do i need?03:34
llutzspiroo: thats why i told you yesterday to paly around with mixer-settings :)03:34
inaetyPirate_Hunter: okay what are the kind of files? have them transferred onto linux and then open them03:34
llutzplay03:34
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inaetyPirate_Hunter: what's it gonna do when it cant find C;/windows :P03:34
timsvn is subversion?03:34
spiroollutz: hehe yes, sorry about that I did not trust you. But is that problem going to be fixed anytime?03:34
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Pirate_Hunterinaety: anow ur being sarcastic but that could work, he can format his partiition, get an antivirus and load the files back on03:35
llutzspiroo: i told you also, to ask those things in #alsa :)03:35
inaetyPirate_Hunter: or he can copy and paste from openoffice03:35
spiroothe sound as I have heard it has never worked properly in linux03:35
inaetyPirate_Hunter: im assuming its just stuff like .doc03:35
adenicioPirate_Hunter: my linux and xp is on grub if i take out the hdd xp will linux still boot?03:35
owlbye03:35
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spirooyes I asked in #alsa but not a single person will answer me03:36
waylandbillBluesKaj: 42.61N 77.63W03:36
Pirate_Hunterinaety :that would be hard with music, films etc and isnt copy & paste just cloning the same infected file???03:36
inaetyadenicio: what you will do when you want to reformat windows is put in your windows cd and just worry about your FAT drive03:36
_4strOadenicio: probably not03:36
inaetyPirate_Hunter: i know...im thinkinh03:36
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_4strOadenicio: depend of where grub is install03:36
timto the subversion guy:03:37
inaetyPirate_Hunter: well if it's those files, which are runnable in linux then shouldnt clamav or whatever kill the infected files03:37
rand_acs_adenicio: if XP is on a seperate drive yes03:37
llutzspiroo: then write a bug-report and hope for improvement03:37
Pirate_Hunteradenicio: take out hdd, get urself gparted, format the partition you want and thats it.  oops if you install xp again it will format the whole hd "OMG"03:37
BluesKajspiroo, you do not go over 70% input volume , other wise you overload the inputs to the amplifier that your speakers are connected to : hence the cleaner sound ...crank up the speaker volume , not the input volume03:37
Pirate_Hunterinaety: :( yeah it would, this feels like a chess game and ive just lost again03:37
_4strOrand_acs_: noway if grub is intalled in the MBR of the XP disk ...03:37
inaetyPirate_Hunter: it's okay, ^_^03:38
timsvn is short for a program called subversion, which is like CVS. Programmers use it to keep project files, and resolve simultanius edits. You will need to get the source out of the svn repository, and then build it (or just run it if its interpreted (python say))03:38
inaetyPirate_Hunter: however i dunno if clamav searches for windows viruses03:38
spirooBluesKay: thanks. not excatly sure what you mean but kind a03:38
rand_acs__4strO: true but I'm assuming grub got installed when he was installing linux03:38
adenicioinaety: i cant do that my back up with my antivirus in it is a fat and its in the same hdd partition03:38
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timinaety: yes it does, for mail box clearing03:39
spiroollutz: yea I guess, but this is a global/international problem03:39
Pirate_Hunterinaety: lol ok im not a sore loser :). Now how can he install xp again once the partition is formated without wiping out kubuntu03:39
kofanyMax-P: it is working on 800/60003:39
_4strOrand_acs_: think linus is already installexd03:39
wersdo you have suggestions on how I can make kubuntu faster? I already turned of many effects. what unnecessary processes run on a default kubuntu install most of the time?03:39
inaetyPirate_Hunter: i dunno what he just said to me...03:39
spiroowhy type a bug report which probably already has been typed a thousand times03:39
kofanyMax-P: but i want work with beter resolution03:39
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adenicioPirate_Hunter: its a no problem to install the grub03:39
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Pirate_Hunterinaety: lthis si what i told him "take out hdd, get urself gparted, format the partition you want and thats it.  oops if you install xp again it will format the whole hd "OMG"03:40
inaetyadenicio: you need to mount your hard drive onto a mount point in linux aand then browse it for the files you want and save it some folder and then have clamav scan for it and it will work because tim just confirmed it03:40
inaetyPirate_Hunter: haha - dont try to confuse him03:40
Max-Pkofany: But if your screen don't support it...03:40
Pirate_Hunternow if he frmats the partiition like i said he loses xp but if he installs it again he loses all data03:40
Pirate_Hunterinaety: that was for you he is not involved at this time in this conversation03:41
BluesKajwaylandbill, drove thru the finger lakes on our honeymoon a long time ago , 1965 ...nice area :)03:41
inaetyPirate_Hunter: i just told him to mount it and do all that stuff then just stick the win cd in and install over his fat partition03:41
spiroothe problem is PCM, if I use Master the sound, just sounds perfect ;)03:41
inaetyPirate_Hunter: yeah03:41
timinaety: but its scan only, no repeair03:41
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spiroooutput volume is the problem not input03:41
inaetytim: darn03:41
inaetyoh wekk03:41
inaetywell03:41
waylandbillPirate_Hunter: you won't lose everything by installing xp. You just have to reinstall grub to the mbr.03:41
Pirate_Hunterinaety: the way I see him installing windows is by doing what you said, checking with clamav and then backing it up on a different hd or DVD disks but thats long03:42
waylandbillBluesKaj: where'd ya go on the honeymoon that took you through the finger lakes?03:43
Pirate_Hunterwaylandbill: xp erases all data it tries to fill the hd03:43
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Pirate_Hunterwaylandbill: at leats my one does03:43
llutzPirate_Hunter: wrong03:43
Pirate_Hunterllutz: wrong... hmmm... explain03:43
llutzPirate_Hunter: then you're using a recovery-version, no a install03:43
inaetyhaha Pirate_Hunter03:43
waylandbillPirate_Hunter: no it doesn't. You tell it what parition to install to.03:44
Pirate_Hunterllutz: i do clean installl and i think thats only for xp professional not home :(03:44
llutzPirate_Hunter: with xp-install cds you can easily say which partition is to be used03:44
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llutzPirate_Hunter: works this way in both versions, home/prof03:44
miliandoes anyone know how I could export / import my kwallet passwords?03:45
Pirate_Hunterllutz: ive tried looking for that option wheer I choose the partition but like I said it just takes the whole disk03:45
kofanyMax-P: on Vista is working.... on xp is working.03:45
BluesKajwaylandbill, we drove from toronto to buffalo, thru to vermont, then up to montreal ...we were rather poor at the time and we only had a week off :)03:45
llutzPirate_Hunter: then german-versions must be completely different from others03:46
Pirate_HunterBluesKaj: if you dont mind me asking, how old are you03:46
BluesKajPirate_Hunter, i'm 6403:46
Pirate_Hunterllutz: lol, rfl, seriously hillarious :)03:46
Max-Pkofany: If it is working, I don't know why it don't work, sorry03:46
Pirate_HunterBluesKaj: see now i understand, just curious03:46
inaetykofany: do you have the nvidia drivers installed03:47
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BluesKajPirate_Hunter, 'ts ok ...old retired labtech ...used  computers for 25 yrs , mostly as application controllers tho03:47
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Pirate_Huntercan someone tell me what are the advantages of kde compared to gnome? please dont say it looks prettier like they did in ubuntu channel03:48
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inaetyPirate_Hunter: iti is03:48
Pirate_HunterBluesKaj: im impressed now you help newbs like me thats nice03:48
inaetyPirate_Hunter: faster03:48
rand_acs__it's loads faster03:48
inaetyPirate_Hunter: easier to program in...not counting pygtk03:48
llutzPirate_Hunter: kde won't hide important options in dialog from the user03:49
inaetyPirate_Hunter: more themeable03:49
BluesKajPirate_Hunter, I'm still a relative noob to linux too03:49
Pirate_Hunterinaety: I know it is but what are the actual advantages and loading faster are you sure about that... i believe that depends on the resources of the machine03:49
rand_acs__the apps actually work!03:49
inaetyPirate_Hunter: what are you on03:49
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Pirate_Hunterinaety: Feyisty with kde03:49
inaetyPirate_Hunter: hardware!03:49
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Pirate_HunterBluesKaj: well i believe you know more than me but whats annoying is having to scar what windows has taught you and having to adapt to linux03:50
emilsedghone of the most importants, really good intergrated!03:50
kofanyinaety: i dont know, it first start from cd.03:50
Pirate_Hunterinaety: lol standard hardware, Sis motherboard, 3.2GHZ intel processor (R), 512 ram, sis graphics card " dont even know if it has an actual name", what else am i missing?03:51
BluesKajPirate_Hunter, i have to confess , that I'm still a windows guy in some ways but I'm slowly migrating to linux...the ppl here are great for the most part and having the time to hang around lets me learn more and more .03:52
kofanyso i dont now witch drivers i have03:52
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Pirate_Hunteryesterday loaded xp stoped 20 system services and a couple processes. M$ cp has so much useless junk03:53
inaetykofany: you can try to install through the alternate disc and install nvidia drivers but you will lose everything03:53
ArwenSIS? I thought all those integrated chipsets were dead already.03:53
ArwenThese days you just see Intel, NVIDIA, and ATI03:53
inaetyPirate_Hunter: it will start up pretty quickly03:53
runleveltenSwitching to Linux is like switching to windows from a Mac or something. Once you reconcile yourself with that, it's not irksome.03:53
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inaetyPirate_Hunter: i have a 2.2 Ghz processor and it starts up in like 5 seconds03:53
Pirate_HunterBluesKaj: yeha I understand what you mean? Bluetack forum was what made me change to llinux but it is the IRC that is helpful03:53
nemo_hallo03:53
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kai#kubuntu-de03:54
waylandbillprogramming with Qt seems easier to me than using GTK, but I'm just used to kde.03:54
runleveltenhi BluesKaj :)03:54
BluesKajhi runlevelten03:54
nemo_is something out there03:54
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Pirate_Hunterinaety: mine as well but I kept the theme animation to minimum just incase03:54
inaetyyou can turn it up a bit03:54
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inaetyi don't like a lot of it anyways03:54
inaetyif you want to run compiz-fusion you might be out of luck...but that still wont affect kde's speed03:55
Pirate_Hunterinaety: most of it is not needed, I only use themes for the normal user accounts but admin accounts I believe should not have themes. At leats thats how my XP is set up03:55
Pirate_Hunternemo_: ive found nemo and a shark is out there03:55
inaetyPirate_Hunter: well you can theme them if you want if you don't it will just look like an unconfigured kde03:56
rand_acs__Pirate_Hunter: if the codes time- and space complexity is greater(worse) it always will be, even though at some point your hardware will make it seem that there's no difference03:56
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emilsedghPirate_Hunter: usually in GNU/Linux, admin's prefer to have no GUI, hey prefer CommandLine solutions...03:56
Pirate_Hunterwhat are the kde download accelerators if there are any03:56
mrmagoo_ciao a tutti03:56
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inaetyPirate_Hunter: kget03:57
emilsedghPirate_Hunter: try kget03:57
Pirate_Hunteremilsedgh: im not ready for full command line yet03:57
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mrmagoo_qualche italiano per aiuti su partizione?03:57
llutz!it | mrmagoo_03:57
ubotumrmagoo_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:57
Pirate_Hunterinaety: im sure thats a download manager, i need this download in like 30min not 3hours03:57
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mrmagoo_grazie03:57
inaetywhat are you downloading03:57
Pirate_Hunterinaety: hoping to download Nero and no its not for linux03:58
inaetyPirate_Hunter: oh okay, ill look for one03:58
Pirate_Hunterinaety: (-_-") WoW ur a darling03:58
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waylandbillPirate_Hunter: k3b rocks.03:59
emilsedghPirate_Hunter: KGet is not a really good accerelator, you may want to try Aria2, its a CommandLine downloader but extremely fast03:59
Pirate_Hunterwaylandbill: can I have over 20 separate connections on it and cna it look for other url to download from?04:00
mrmagoo_how to change permission on sda204:00
inaetyPirate_Hunter: yeah what emilsedgh said04:00
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mrmagoo_i want write it with my user04:00
inaetyPirate_Hunter: k3b is a nero04:00
llutzmrmagoo_: chmod/chown if it is unix-filesystem04:00
inaetyfor linux04:00
emilsedghPirate_Hunter: by Aria2, yeah you can04:00
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Pirate_Hunteremilsedgh: aria2 will check it out online, need to check how complex the command line is before downloading it04:00
inaetyPirate_Hunter: not a download accelerator04:00
inaetyPirate_Hunter: "aria2c www.sfksdjf.exe"04:01
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emilsedghPirate_Hunter: thats sooo easy men, try it...04:01
runleveltenYeah, we have a copy of Nero for Linux knocking around the office somewhere I think. Never needed it, k3b is fairly good.04:01
Pirate_Hunterinaety: lol i need nero for XP basically I download it on linux and send it to my other partition04:01
runleveltenhttp://www.nero.com/eng/NeroLINUX.html04:01
inaetyPirate_Hunter: yeah i assumed04:01
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Pirate_Hunteremilsedgh: will do so but remember what is easy for you may not be easy for me :)04:01
waylandbillPirate_Hunter: k3b is a cd/dvd burner. kget is a download manager (not exactly an accelerator like getright or the like)04:01
wersare there issues with easy ubuntu like with automatix??04:02
emilsedghPirate_Hunter: yeah...right, but you have to try things, im sure you will find it easy too04:02
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Pirate_Hunterwaylandbill: the best win accelerator ive used, heck linux needs to upbeat on the software market04:02
Jucato!easyubuntu | wers04:02
ubotuwers: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu04:02
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Pirate_Hunteremilsedgh: lol will do so04:03
Jucatowers: in Gutsy, though, they will be practically unnecessary on a default installation04:03
Pirate_HunterJucato: i knwo its out but havent seen it available yet04:03
emilsedghKGet of KDE4.0 gets lots of love, its now an accerelator (I think)04:03
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waylandbillPirate_Hunter: I don't use a download accelerator. Generally the servers can send the files fast enough to only need one connection, but mostly I just use official packages.04:03
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Pirate_HunterJucato: im guessing that would be on the levels on Vista04:03
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JucatoPirate_Hunter: huh? what?04:04
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Pirate_Hunterwaylandbill: I live far away form the server and nero has some very crappy connections04:04
inaetyPirate_Hunter: have you ever heard of torrents?04:04
Pirate_HunterJucato: gutsy04:04
wersok.. thanks jucato (*)04:04
Jucatooh it won't be out till October04:04
Pirate_Hunterinaety: uhhhh - keep it on the low.......................... I have04:04
Jucatobut it's close to beta 1 now04:04
runleveltenGutsy on the level of Vista? Why, has there been some terrible catastrophe that's ruined Gutsy?04:05
inaetyPirate_Hunter: haha torrents aren't illegal04:05
Pirate_HunterJucato: alright ill wait till its out04:05
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Pirate_Hunterinaety: that depends on opinions i.e. one mans freedom fighter  is anothewr mans terrorist04:05
inaetyPirate_Hunter: a lot of companies with big files have .torrents so it can be faster like ubuntu04:05
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inaetyPirate_Hunter: no its only illegal if you download copyrighted material04:06
runleveltenPirate_Hunter: It doesn't depend on opinions at all.04:06
emilsedghinaety: Torrent is just a proocol, its like that you say HTTP is illegal!04:06
Pirate_Hunterinaety: Nero is copyrighted, 98% of all torrents are copyrighted04:06
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emilsedghs/proocol/protocol04:06
teguhmy adept is crash...anyone help me04:06
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inaetylisten to emilsedgh04:07
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runleveltenI download, for instance, Debian using bittorrent.04:07
Pirate_Hunterrunlevelten: how did you come to that conclusion04:07
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spiroowaylandbill: k3b almost rocks :D04:07
Pirate_Hunterrunlevelten: Debian is free04:07
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teguhsudo fuser command frezzeee in my konsole04:07
runlevelten98% of criminals breathe air. Therefore breathing air is illegal.04:07
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ubotuteguh: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:07
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inaetyPirate_Hunter: im not saying to download nero by torrent, just that you can get a lot of software that are freely distributed over torrent04:07
Pirate_Hunterrunlevelten: that way of thinking is what makes the world even worse than it already is04:07
Jucato!offtopic04:08
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:08
runleveltenBittorrent is a data transfer protocol. It is simply not illegal, and that's a fact, jack.04:08
teguhadeptfix how to....im totaly new in ubuntu04:08
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Arwen!adeptfix04:08
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:08
Arwenyou mean that?04:08
spirooBtw, does anybody know about this problem, not sure if it is my dvd player or k3b. After I have burned a .img file to a dvd and put in the dvd do the dvd player it says: Cannot recognize format, do you wanna format. Wtf?04:08
Pirate_Hunterinaety: i know but the prob with torrent is that some have virus and I dont trust the person seeding it04:08
Jucato....04:08
Pirate_HunterJucato: lol04:08
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inaetyPirate_Hunter: haha...04:09
runleveltenubuntu/kubuntu/linux distribution depends heavily on bittorrent, which is not illegal in any way, shape or form.04:09
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teguh sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  if i run this commandmy konsole is freeze for a long time04:09
Jucatoif you could please take the torrent discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic thanks04:09
Pirate_Hunterinaety: (-_-)???04:09
Jucatoteguh: just "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a" (don't include the special symbols)04:10
spirooanyone knows about the dvd problem with dvd player/K3b?04:10
inaetyPirate_Hunter: nevermind, just know you'll be okay with kubuntu.torrent04:10
Jucatospiroo: which problem?04:10
Pirate_Hunteris there any difference in using kubuntu with kde comapred to feyisty with kde04:10
JucatoO.o04:10
spirooJucato:04:10
spiroo  50 004:10
spirooNaturkunskap ASlutfrd G  50 50004:10
spirooProjektarbetePgende   100 004:10
spirooProgrammering B/C++Pgende04:10
Jucato!paste | spiroo04:10
runleveltenIt is not a discussion, it is not chatter. A prime distribution channel for kubuntu is being described as illegal. It is not. End.04:10
Pirate_Hunterinaety: lol there would eb no point infecting that04:10
ubotuspiroo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:10
inaetyfeisty is kubuntu04:10
teguhjucato = no offcourse ussualy is working but not this time04:11
JucatoPirate_Hunter: Feisty is the nickname for Kubuntu 7.04 release.04:11
JucatoPirate_Hunter: each release has a code/nickname associated with it, in the form of "Adjective Animal"04:11
Pirate_HunterJucato: except it uses gnome, see04:11
TraXBittorrent was actually designed for the purpose of downloading linux distros04:11
Pirate_HunterTraX: didnt know that and it got exploited like everything else does04:12
Jucato<Pirate_Hunter> is there any difference in using kubuntu with kde comapred to feyisty with kde  <--- that was your question04:12
Pirate_HunterJucato: yeha04:12
Jucatoso what uses GNOME?04:12
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Pirate_HunterJucato: Feyisty comes with gnome as default, kubuntu comes with kde as default04:13
JucatoFeisty is NOT just Ubuntu04:13
Pirate_HunterJucato: you already answered its the same but with different file managers04:13
JucatoUbuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn, Kubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn, Xubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn04:13
runleveltenPirate_Hunter: Basically, the separation between Kubuntu and Ubuntu is an idea. The two are the same OS.04:13
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Pirate_HunterJucato: please expand04:13
teguhCannot stat /var/lib/dpkg/lock:sudo: No such file or directory04:14
teguhCannot stat /var/lib/dpkg/lock:sudo: No such file or directory04:14
teguhCannot stat dpkg: No such file or directory04:14
teguhCannot stat dpkg: No such file or directory04:14
JucatoPirate_Hunter: each release has a code/nickname associated with it, in the form of "Adjective Animal"04:14
teguhthis my message form konsole04:14
inaetyPirate_Hunter: kubuntu and ubuntu are the same exact thing just every release they name it something different04:14
Pirate_Hunterteguh: pastebin please pastebin use it04:14
Jucatoteguh: please run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" only04:14
runleveltenPirate_Hunter: If it has kubuntu-desktop installed, ubuntu gets called kubuntu. If it has both installed, you can call it what you like.04:14
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inaetykubuntu dapper kubuntu edgy kubuntu feisty04:14
runleveltenPirate_Hunter: then there's the XFCE desktop on xubuntu, you get the point :)04:14
Pirate_Hunterinaety: yeha figured it out and its because each release holds different elements04:14
inaetyPirate_Hunter: i suppose as much04:15
Pirate_Hunterrunlevelten: got it04:15
JucatoPirate_Hunter: ok here goes. the "Feisty", "Dapper", "Edgy", "Gutsy" names are just names for different release numbers/dates04:15
inaetyPirate_Hunter: just every six months they release a new upgrade04:15
Jucatothey have nothing to do with what's installed by default04:15
teguhand the result just this ""04:15
teguhCannot stat /var/lib/dpkg/lock:sudo: No such file or directory04:15
teguhCannot stat /var/lib/dpkg/lock:sudo: No such file or directory04:15
teguhCannot stat dpkg: No such file or directory04:15
teguhCannot stat dpkg: No such file or directory04:15
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JucatoGNOME, KDE,or Xfce04:15
Jucato!paste | teguh04:15
inaety!nopaste04:15
ubotuteguh: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nopaste - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:15
runleveltenThose names are the equivalent of 98, ME, 2000, XP, Vista.04:15
inaetyoh woops04:15
Jucatothis is your last warning teguh04:15
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runleveltenExcept they don't suck and they don't take five years to get released.04:16
Pirate_Hunterlol04:16
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bimmelhi guys, i want to know how i can burn an audio cd with k3b, my k3b allways says that it cannot handle *.mp3 files04:16
bimmelbut transcode and lame are already installed04:16
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Jucatobimmel: install the package "libk3b2-mp3"04:17
Jucatoteguh: run "sudo apt-get -f install" and please DO NOT paste the output in here04:17
bimmelno but i do it right now04:17
teguhnot working anyway04:17
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bimmelthx a lot Jucato04:18
teguhno no no im type in my konsole04:18
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bimmelbye bye :)04:18
Pirate_Hunterif m$ were to steal some of the function and ideas of linux they would create good OS04:18
runleveltenPirate_Hunter: That's called "Vista".04:18
runleveltenIt didn't work out so good.04:18
Jucato!offtopic04:18
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:18
martijn81if vista is a good os they better stop making an OS (sorry)04:18
emilsedghPirate_Hunter: just dont care about windows and ms, just have fun with GNU/Linux, and try to give back to the community04:19
Jucatoagain, please. take this discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic04:19
emilsedghoops, sorry Jucato04:19
Pirate_Hunterrunlevelten: ive seen vista too much theme but still the same windows with more restrictions04:19
Pirate_Hunterrunlevelten: thast there way of saying its more secure04:19
teguhjucato : "sudo dpkg --configure -a" not working04:19
runleveltenRight, the topic police thing is getting a bit much for me. I'm off to support users somewhere else. :)04:19
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runleveltenHave fun ;)04:19
Pirate_Hunternow how do i use Aria204:20
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Jucatoteguh: I gave you another command04:20
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emilsedghPirate_Hunter: run aria2c --help04:20
emilsedghPirate_Hunter: in konsole :)04:20
Jucatoteguh: run "sudo apt-get -f install" and please DO NOT paste the output in here04:20
Pirate_Hunteremilsedgh: kk04:20
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TraXWhat's a good program to use for creating DVDs from avi files from my hp camera? (I tried DeVeDe and the sound comes out horrible, eg loud distortion and such)04:21
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Pirate_Hunteraria2c --help: im going to just use aria with firefox lets hope flashget works04:21
emilsedghTraX: maybe mandvd will help you... ?04:21
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teguhjucato : but if i used "sudo apt-get -f install"...raise warning like this "The list of sources could not be read"04:22
KartiHi all, a question. I would like to use Firefox as my main web browser. I was told to enter Firefox32 "%s" in the default applications in the system settings. I understand that it so that it it takes the address and inserts it in the page that I would view. But although it does this it opens two tabs, one is correct and the other is www."%s".com - Any ideas?04:22
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TraXemilsedgh: Have a link for it (I just checked synaptic and couldn't find it there)04:22
Pirate_Hunterppl im gone04:22
teguhjucato:E: Type 'https://gambas.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/gambas/2.0/trunk/https://gam                                                           bas.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/gambas/2.0/trunk/https://gambas.svn.sourceforge.                                                           net/svnroot/gambas/2.0/trunk/svn' is not known on line 35 in source list /etc/ap                                                           t/sources.list04:23
Jucatoteguh: then there's something wrong with your sources.list file.04:23
emilsedgh TraX: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=3834704:23
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teguhso how to fixit my brother....04:23
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teguhussualy im used command "sudo fuser..." is working04:24
Jucatoteguh: only if you promise not to paste long lines of text in here04:24
teguhok.....04:24
Jucato!pastebin04:24
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:24
mrmagoo_italiano04:24
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Jucatoteguh: using that pastebin link, paste IN THERE the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file04:25
Jucato!it | mrmagoo_04:25
ubotumrmagoo_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!04:25
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Jucatoteguh: use the pastebin, don't paste in here. thanks04:25
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JucatoVirtuoS: please turn off your public away messages04:41
VirtuoSoki04:41
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fiyawerxhey guys, where would be a spot to ask for help to see if I can use the media center remote that came with the hp machine im using with kubuntu now? here? having trouble finding if the usb IR device will work or what drivers to use04:45
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harmental_hey guys...im trying to format a NTFS partition...for that ill start by unmounting it...the problem is that i get this msg...any ideas?04:46
harmental_no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab04:46
hydrogengo to the end of the last line04:46
harmental_umount: /mnt/vista mount disagrees with the fstab04:46
hydrogenand press enter04:46
harmental_hydrogen: thats it??04:47
hydrogenyes04:47
Jucato:)04:47
hydrogenunix files expect a blank line at the end of them04:47
gilbyhello04:47
harmental_hydrogen: ok...now i get umount: /mnt/vista mount disagrees with the fstab04:48
ekrengelhas anyone done the latest kernel update?04:48
gilbyjust installed kubuntu on to my laptop and now need abit of help using and understanding what im doing04:48
hydrogenharmental_: are you trying as root or as user?04:48
ekrengel2.6.20-16?04:48
emilsedghgilby: just ask your questions...04:48
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harmental_hydrogen: damn! you re right..thx!04:49
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harmental_another question: is qtparted a safe choice to format a NTFS partition?04:50
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rocketsHow do I make kopete hide offline contacts?04:56
Jucatoclick on the icon in the toolbar04:57
rocketsnvr mind04:57
teguhjucate : how fix my "APT" data base i used "apt-get" not worked04:57
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emilsedghrockets: Settings->Hide Offline Users04:57
BluesKajharmental_, I've never used qtparted myself , but I hear it's fine ...it's a matter of preference> I prefer GParted live cd :)04:57
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teguhhow to see "source list" of adept04:58
emilsedghteguh: open /etc/apt/sources.list04:59
emilsedghteguh: or use adept04:59
Jucatoemilsedgh: good luck. I tried to help him earlier...05:00
teguhhe he he he he my adept not working right now ""05:00
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Jucatoemilsedgh: basically he has a malformed/wrong line in his sources.list. which he'll have to edit manually05:00
Jucatohe's your customer now :P05:00
emilsedghJucato: lol, im not experienced as you, but ill try to help05:01
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emilsedghteguh: could yo please copy your sources.list to pastebin?05:01
Jucatoyou're doing fine. just telling you the background to save you from further digging05:01
Jucato!pastebin05:01
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:01
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Kr4t05Beh... I'm trying to use Xubuntu on my laptop, but the NIC has suddenly stopped functioning.05:03
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teguhi how to change05:04
teguhdeb http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted multiverse05:04
teguhdeb-src http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted05:04
teguh## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the05:04
teguh## distribution.05:04
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Jucatoemilsedgh: see my problem? :)05:04
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teguhsorry my mistake......05:04
emilsedghJucato: oh yeah!05:04
Jucatoteguh: again, for the last time, please DO NOT paste in here05:05
teguhhrrgggggg05:05
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emilsedghteguh: look, you shouldnt copy things here...05:05
teguhno no no no no sory-sory my mistake05:05
martijn81anyone know a KDE alternative for gobby? http://gobby.0x539.de/trac/05:05
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emilsedghno problem teguh05:05
Jucatomartijn81: if you find one, do let me know as well :)05:05
martijn81i will05:06
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Jucatooh wait..05:06
Jucatomartijn81: http://mateedit.sourceforge.net/05:06
Jucatonot sure if it's exactly like gobby though05:06
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martijn81Jucato: myeah, that is more like notes instead of a real editor with multiple files where your buddylist can work on05:07
martijn81at least, it looks like that....05:08
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martijn81thanks though05:08
martijn81:)05:08
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teguhhow to change "permission" sourcelist05:09
Jucatoemilsedgh: ^^^05:09
emilsedghteguh: type this in run command: kdesu /etc/apt/sources.list05:09
Jucatoemilsedgh: you forgot kate05:10
emilsedghteguh: you do not/should not change its permission05:10
martijn81teguh: /etc/apt/sources.list? why do you want to?05:10
emilsedghJucato: ah fool me!05:10
Jucatodon't worry, got your back :)05:10
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emilsedghkdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list    teguh: run this05:10
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Jucatomartijn81: trying to fix his sources.list, which is preventing him from opening adept or using apt05:10
teguhi want delete link "http://gambas....link"05:10
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teguhin source list05:10
martijn81i see :)05:11
emilsedghteguh: run this: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list05:11
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csn74slt !!!05:13
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csn74lut05:13
csn74...05:13
csn74au scouuuur :'(05:14
Jucato!fr05:14
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:14
jcolvincan anybody help me with my internet?05:14
csn74salut !05:14
csn74thanks05:14
teguhsooooooo MY ADEPT IS WOOORRRRKING AGGAGGAAAAIIIN YEHUIIIIIII GERONIMO05:15
emilsedghjcolvin: just ask your question...05:15
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teguhTHANK A LOT JUCATO AND EMIL05:15
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jcolvini'm having trouble setting up the broadcom mini PC 1350 card05:15
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emilsedghJucato: thanks :P05:16
teguhHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAH A HA05:16
Jucato!caps05:16
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.05:16
jcolvini'm following a step-by-step on the ubuntu forums but it got confusing05:16
emilsedghJucato: I would prefer Beer05:16
Jucato:)05:16
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emilsedghjcolvin: I have such experience with ndiswrapper, please first install it from adept manager05:17
Jucatolet me borrow ubotu for a moment05:17
Jucato!ram05:17
ubotuA quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html05:17
jcolvinok05:17
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jcolvinemilsedgh: which category is it in adept manager. I can't find it when I search for it05:20
JucatoSystem05:20
JucatoK Menu -> System -> Adept Manager05:20
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emilsedgh:)05:21
jcolvinyes i'm in adept installer already05:21
Jucatoer that would be different05:21
emilsedghjcolvin: so only search for ndiswrapper, you do not need to specify category05:22
JucatoAdept Installer = Add/Remove Programs05:22
jcolvini meant adept manager05:22
Jucatook :)05:22
jcolvinits not finding ndiswrapper05:22
emilsedghjcolvin: ok, run this in konsole: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common05:23
teguhhow to use "manage repository"05:23
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jcolvinemilsedgh: it said couldn't find package ndiswrapper-common05:24
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emilsedghjcolvin: so in adept manager, could you please go to Adept (menu) -> Manage Repositories05:25
Edushi. how can i edit shutdown button on kubuntu??05:25
JucatoEdus: edit in what way?05:25
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Edusedit shutdown command whit some parameters05:26
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Jucatoah...05:26
emilsedghjcolvin: then see if all of the checkboxes in the 'Kubuntu Software' are checked...05:26
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Jucato+ -security and -updates05:26
Jucatobut not on Dapper or Edgy...05:27
jcolvinemilsedgh: i found a step-by-step on the forum to install it...its almost done05:27
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emilsedghjcolvin: so have fun using it ;)05:27
JucatoEdus: not sure if it's what you're looking for, but K Menu -> System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Login Manager -> Shutdown tab05:27
Edusjucato: what are -security and -updates?05:27
waylandbillJucato is correct. All the 'official' repos are enabled as of feisty05:27
JucatoEdus: security and bug fixes repository, and updates repository05:28
Jucato!repositories05:28
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:28
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JucatoI give up on kaddressbook!!!!05:28
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emilsedghJucato: why? that should be stable..05:29
Jucatoit is. hasn't crashed or bugged :)05:30
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JucatoI would just like to strangle it right now :)05:30
teguhwhat the name application similar with "limewire" in ubuntu05:30
Jucato!frostwire | teguh05:31
ubotuteguh: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire05:31
emilsedghteguh: maybe you want to use torrent (with ktorrent), but you could use Apollon too05:31
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EdusWhen i shutdown on kubuntu, i hear a strange sound. what it might be?05:31
jcolvinCode:05:31
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jcolvinuname -r05:31
jcolvinInsert the output of the uname -r command into the following 2 commands where the numbers are at05:32
jcolvin05:32
jcolvin 7.05:32
jcolvin05:32
jcolvinCode:05:32
jcolvinsudo aptitude install linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic05:32
jcolvinwhat does that mean?05:32
jcolvini'm confused where to put "uname -r"05:32
Jucato!paste | jcolvin05:32
ubotujcolvin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:32
Jucatojcolvin: save yourself the trouble and just install linux-headers-generic05:33
Jucatoyou are on edgy or feisty, aren't you?05:33
emilsedghjcolvin: try running this: sudo aptitude linux-headers-`uname -r`05:33
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pcanal en espaol05:33
jcolvinThis aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers.05:34
Jucato!es | p05:34
ubotup: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:34
jcolvinthats what it said05:34
pbuenas05:34
pbuenas05:34
Jucatojcolvin: I think you forgot to use sudo05:34
salvahi, I've got a problem installing SuSE 10.3 after I installed kubuntu... Anybody can help me with the grub? Thanks05:34
pthanks Jucato05:34
Jucatode nada (am I right?)05:34
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jcolvinjucato: no i didn't05:35
jcolvinjucato: do i have to be in the root shell?05:35
Jucatojcolvin: not root shell, but you need to use sudo05:35
Jucato!sudo | jcolvin05:35
ubotujcolvin: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:35
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jcolvini did put "sudo" in front of the command05:35
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Sylenzehello!05:36
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mathieu__is there a way to force ktorrent to always start in a given directory and with all files?05:36
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Sylenzeask google D:05:37
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Jucatothe new ktorrent's behavior for picking directories to download to is annoying :(05:37
Sylenzehi05:37
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Sylenzethen why don't you install another torrent application?05:37
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Jucatojcolvin: what's the exact command that you used?05:38
JucatoSylenze: because aside from that, I like ktorrent. and that wasn't the default behavior before the current version05:38
SylenzeJucato: i see. Sorry, but i never used ktorrent...05:38
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Sylenzehi05:38
Sylenzeis it normal that the Konsole gives me VERY long message blocks if i want to compile Pidgin?05:39
emilsedghSylenze: yes05:40
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Sylenzeemilsedgh: ow... maybe it's because it has to include those libs?05:40
emilsedghstylus: its just GCC's output (I think), do not pay attention to it05:41
jcolvinsudo aptitude linux-headers-uname -r05:41
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Sylenzeafter the "make" finished, i typed "make install". i got this error:   make: *** [install-recursive]  Error 105:41
ArkardHi everybody05:42
Sylenzehi!05:42
Sylenzewhat can i do now =x05:42
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emilsedghstylus: you should do that with sudo05:42
emilsedghstylus: sudo make install05:43
Arkardneed help again T_T05:43
Arkardi was about to install my Nvidia Driver05:43
Arkardbut i cant find my Linux-Source05:43
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Sylenzeemilsedgh: me too?05:43
emilsedghah05:44
fattycan someone point me to some documentation on how I can access my ubuntu box's drives, from my windows pc?05:44
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emilsedghSylenze: yeah you should do that sorry05:44
Arkardwait, is downloading05:44
Sylenzeemilsedgh: thanks i'll try.05:44
dthacker!samba | fatty05:44
ubotufatty: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT05:44
Sylenzewow that was... oh.05:44
fattythank you05:44
Sylenzeit worked ^___^ thanks emilsedgh!05:44
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dthackernp05:44
emilsedghnp Sylenze05:45
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Arkardcan anybody use Beryl?05:45
Sylenzeanother question: what's a good dictionary for Kubuntu?05:45
llutzSylenze: ding, kdict05:46
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ArkardDictionary? for what? find concepts?05:46
SylenzeIlutz: thanks05:46
edulixhi!05:46
johanneshi05:46
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ArkardHi05:46
Sylenzei don't like Gnome and gtk! (just wanted to say that)05:47
johannescan anyone tell me how I can get acces to my windows harddisks??05:47
johannesor is there a tutorial for that?05:47
grul!ntfs05:47
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse05:47
edulixwhen I enter in the run command dialog (alt+f2) something like irc://irc.ffreenode.net/kde it tries to open kopete. how to change it to konversation?05:47
aguiteljohannes, the command is :ntfs-config ,find information about this05:48
johannesok thanks05:48
emilsedghedulix: you have to change it from systemsettings->advanced->prefered applications (I think)05:48
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Sylenzeyay i have pidgin ^__^05:49
yaccinwhat program do i use for making DVDs of avi/mpg files and create a nice menu?05:49
Jucatoedulix: System Settings -> Default applications05:49
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emilsedghyaccin: mandvd05:50
martijn81yaccin: mandvd probably, see highest rated apps on kde-apps.org05:50
yaccinok ill try that, thx :)05:50
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edulixJucato: I'm there, and now click in Instant Menssenger, and it effectively has kopete selected. the problem now is, it doesn't let me choose any other one (konversation)05:50
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TraXyaccin: ManDVD or DeVeDe will work but you might have to convert the avi/mpg to a wav to get the sound to work correctly05:51
ArkardCya in a minute with my new Nvidia Driver Installed05:51
Arkardand thanks for help05:51
Arkardspecially thanks to TraX05:51
yaccinTrhmm that could be a problem :D05:51
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edulixJucato: does that also happen to you?05:51
Jucatolet me try05:52
Jucatoyeah it does05:52
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Sylenzemy eyes hurt on the big resolution05:52
jasjhi, i have  a problem when i try to accses to a disk, with other user tath it's not the root05:52
teguhjucato:where is, if i want learn all command in ubuntu05:53
Jucato!commandline05:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about commandline - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:53
Jucatoer..05:53
Jucato!cli05:53
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal05:53
Jucatoteguh: follow that link above ^^^05:53
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teguhok thank a lot....05:53
jasjhi05:54
edulixJucato: should it be in "File associations" > "URI" ?05:54
Sylenzethe best would be to give the console a shortcut, like alt+ctrl+c05:54
emilsedghbbl05:54
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Jucatonot really sure edulix... you might want to ask in #konversation05:54
Sylenzenamol: hello!05:54
jasjhi i can not oppen my other disk in a normal user, just in safe mode with root05:54
edulixok thanks Jucato ;)05:55
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SylenzeKubuntu is the best OS ever!05:55
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teguhyess   X K U -buntu05:56
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jasjkubuntu was the best, now its ... maybe suse, bucouse kubuntu have a problems with disk in others users and can not br installed in raisr 405:57
jasjbecouse05:57
Sylenze*because?05:58
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Sylenzelol05:58
Sylenzeya i can't read my DvD05:58
Sylenzeubuntu isn't good. gnome has serious problems with the window frames...05:59
jasjwell i prefer kubundo kde its more beatifull05:59
teguhjucato where the link "borland kylix" in adept05:59
Sylenzeok maybe ubuntu with KDE, but why don't get Kubuntu then ;D05:59
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jasjyes kubuntu its better than ubuntu05:59
yaccinif i doenloaded a .deb... can i install it with aptitude or do i have to use dpkg -i?06:00
Sylenzeanother question: how can make the command sudo -i only accesible for the user "sylenze"?06:00
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jasjbut both have a problems with disk06:00
jasjtry gksu, its better or download the fakeroot06:00
inaetyis there anyway to get kde looking like windows vista? i cant find any good windwos decorations or anything out ther06:00
Jucatoyaccin: dpkg. or just right-click on it06:00
Sylenzejasj: with disk? you mean hardrive or cd's/dvd's?06:00
inaetythere06:00
Jucatojasj: gksu doesn't work on Kubuntu. we use kdesu for it06:01
jasjharddrive, my ntfs partition06:01
Sylenzejasj: oh, i see.06:01
Jucatoinaety: tried searching http://kde-look.org06:01
yaccinJucato: gdebi always crashes when i try to use it06:01
jasji am using gksu in kde, work perfectly06:01
inaetyJucato: i have..06:01
Jucatoyaccin: on feisty, we don't use gdebi. on gutsy, there's a gdebi-kde program06:01
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yaccinyes it crashes ^^06:02
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Jucatoyaccin: like I said, right-click on the .deb package and select Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package06:02
Jucatoare you on Feisty or Gutsy?06:02
yaccinand when i use dpkg i get a lot of unresolved dependencies06:02
yaccinand if i try to resolve these i just get more -_-06:02
Sylenzehow are the "executables" for kubuntu called? i mean the ending, like testexecutable.*06:02
Jucatowell, that's the nature of dpkg...06:02
yaccingutsy06:02
jasjok but where i can download the kdesu06:02
teguhor cd "places debfilename" then  sudo dpkg -i "debfilename.deb" sorry06:02
jasjare not in the repostory06:02
tsdgeosSylenze: executables on linux have no extension06:02
Sylenzetsdgeos: i'm confused06:03
tsdgeosSylenze: why?06:03
Jucatojasj: it's part of kde when you install it. you don't need to separately install it06:03
Jucatooooh tsdgeos is here :)06:03
Sylenzetsdgeos: how do you know which program to use then?06:03
jasjok06:03
JucatoSylenze: by their name and their permission...06:03
jasjit the same og gnome06:03
tsdgeosSylenze: ??==??==?? what has extension have to do with knowing the program name?06:03
tsdgeosif i want to run kpdf06:03
tsdgeosi run06:03
tsdgeoskpdf06:04
tsdgeosand i'm done06:04
Sylenzetsdgeos: that's cool06:04
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Jucatotsdgeos: when you come from Windows/MS-DOS, you get that mentality :)06:04
Sylenzetsdgeos: but still confusing me =/06:04
Jucatoquite hard to shake off if you're new06:04
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Sylenzei was using WindowsXP before kubuntu. now i'm confused.06:04
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JucatoSylenze: each file (and folder) in Linux (or any Unix for that matter) has permissions. There's an executable permission for it. So if it's a program, naturally it has the executable permissions turned on06:05
Jucatoactually, you can make any file executable, of course that doesn't mean that they will run :)06:05
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Sylenzeyes...06:05
Sylenzeand06:05
Jucatoand?06:05
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Sylenzei'm a c# programmer, but Mono Develop is GTK, is there a KDE alternative?06:06
Dannilionzit means that the files do not need an extension to be able to run- they don't need a .exe06:06
SylenzeGTK is to buggy for me =x06:06
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TraXSylenze: I'm using MonoDevelop in KDE06:06
SylenzeDannilionz: i know06:06
SylenzeTraX: but i hate GTK06:06
ubuntutest06:06
tsdgeosSylenze: try kdevelop, not sure if it has C# support, though06:06
tsdgeosubuntu: test succeded06:07
Sylenzenoooo! ubuntu sneaked into kubuntu!06:07
Sylenzetsdgeos: ok i'll try06:07
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jasjkubuntu rules06:07
Sylenzemaybe i could use visual c# with wine? oO06:07
jasjyes06:07
Sylenze(WinE?!)06:07
Sylenzejasj: seksi!06:07
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JucatoSylenze: I think the Qt bindings for C# is called Qyoto and the KDE bindings are called Kimono06:07
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TraXSylenze: If you get it to work in wine let me know06:08
SylenzeTraX: yesh06:08
nooneasdf06:08
jasjkdevelop06:08
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Sylenzebut i would need netfx i think06:08
teguhhe he he he me too sylenze im confuse with gtk but i founded "eclipse"06:08
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Sylenzeok06:08
Sylenzethat makes no sense06:08
jasjyes in don work great if you not have al least the wine 9.606:09
Sylenzebut windows isn't good because it has no reposoritys!06:09
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jasjand becouse no have a comunity06:09
jasjlike this06:09
SylenzeKdevelop: an IDE for programming applications in X11? isn't that mac?06:09
jasjno k mean kede06:10
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BluesKajever read the book "Open Kimono" by Seymour Hare ?.....very very ancient joke :)06:10
Sylenzekedevelop? what?! @_@06:10
jasjkdevelop is for kde users like kubuntu users06:10
teguhcommon we in ubuntu world....in others06:10
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SylenzeBluesKaj: still funny =006:10
jasji yo could make windows application too06:10
Sylenzewait i have another problem!!!06:11
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JucatoKDevelop supports python and Ruby, C/C++, and KDE06:11
Jucato!away > esteve06:11
jasjand pascal06:11
Sylenzeif i'd use visual c#, i would only be able to make Windows applications! damn!06:11
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Sylenzeisn't there a c# building for kdevelop? =(06:11
teguhuse "eclipse' maybe help...06:11
ArkardHi again06:11
jasjand java it'sa ide multiplatafor,multilanguage develoment suite need qt3 or grater06:11
Sylenzeeclipse is gtk, too...06:11
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TraXArkard: How did it go?06:12
jasjyes c sharp also06:12
Arkardbad TraX06:12
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Arkardstill having problems06:12
Arkardwhen the driver ends06:12
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Sylenzethere should be a visual c# clone =x06:12
salvaLO! anybody knows how to create an entry in the grub (menu.lst) for load openSuSE10,306:12
Arkardit says Unable to load Kernel module 'nvidia.ko'06:12
teguhyeaahhh but great for me i can make windows application06:12
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Arkardwhats wrong now TraX?06:13
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SylenzeMove the C# language part into kdevelop4-extra-plugins. It features a fully-functional parser and a binder that hooks[...] 06:13
TraXIs that still during the nvidia installer or after when you try to boot?06:14
effacei am having a problem with getting my internet to work on my other desktop, ive tried everything i could find on the web, someone mind helping?06:14
Arkardin the Nvidia Installer TraX06:14
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jasjSylenze: you use kubuntu or ubuntu06:14
oldboy_hi06:14
Arkardhi06:15
Sylenzehi06:15
Sylenzejasj: kubuntu!06:15
teguhhi hi hi06:15
Sylenzehi06:15
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oldboy_i need a nice video transcoding app for kde06:15
jasjubuntu is verry bad, the desktop evrioment is gnome and gnome its gtk so is verry uglu06:15
jasjugly06:15
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jasja ok06:16
oldboy_do you guys know of one?06:16
TraXArkard: Did you make sure you had the build essentials and kernel headers?06:16
Sylenzegtk is ***$%"!!!*!!!06:16
richard_how do you install themes on kde06:16
jasjso kdevelop its perfect to you06:16
Sylenzeoldboy search the reposority!06:16
Sylenzewith the keywords on description06:16
oldboy_i've been search for like an hour06:16
jasjjust keep something in your mind, develop free software06:16
Sylenzethat's bad =(06:16
Sylenzei heard of Jashaki06:17
oldboy_searching06:17
Sylenzewait... Jahshaka06:17
Sylenzeoldboy_: it was Jahshaka06:17
jasjwell someone nkow how i can fix my problem06:17
Sylenzejasj: what problem?06:18
jasjI not have accses to ntfs disk in my local user whit root privileges, just if ia am the root06:18
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Arkardyes TraX and the Linux Source too06:19
oldboy_thanks Sylenze, but that looks like too much06:19
oldboy_i just need a simple front end to ffmpeg or mencode06:19
Sylenzejasj: i make only free software. here's a banner of my "1 man corporation":  http://tinyurl.com/ysm2px06:19
Sylenzeoldboy_: then try searching "SUPER"06:19
Sylenzei don't know if it's available for linux, though06:20
TraXArkard: What exactly did the error say?06:20
jasjand when i run konqueror as a root in my local acount, i can see the files but, i can no run the executables and mltimediafiles, and open office, just the imgs06:20
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teguhhow to ...if i want run "kubuntu" and "windows xp" in then same comp and at the same time...06:20
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jasjfirst install wwindows them instal kubuntu06:21
Sylenzejasj: you have no write acces to your LINUX partition or windows partition?06:21
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ArkardTraX unable to load kernel module 'nvidia.ko' see the file /etc/log/nvidia-installer.log for more information06:21
Sylenzetest06:22
jasjif you want to have accses to your windows partition disk in linux the present the you windows partiton have to be fat32 or less06:22
teguhno no like that .in same time "i work vb in windows xp" then i open "adept mana in kubuntu"06:22
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jasjwindows partition in linux06:22
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dewdHi I installed nxclient which wants to install libstdc++-someversion this action caused aptitude wanting to uninstall al LOT of packages, installing it with apt-get did not give me this problem06:22
TraXArkard: If the nvidia-installer.log says something about the gcc version then use sudo sh nvidiadrivername.run -k$(uname -r)06:22
dewdbut now every action I do with aptitude still want to remove all those packages06:23
llutzjasj: linux can use ntfs with ntfs-3g, win-xp can read/write ext3 with drivers from fs-drivers-org. no need for fat3206:23
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Sylenzei need serious help! is "pnet" for making windows executables or Linux ones?06:23
dewdit says it is unused but I use them .. how to reset this stupid behaviour ?06:23
Arkardlet me see TraX06:23
jasji have installed this its ok but in root06:23
fritschSylenze: apt-cache show says it is used for .net applications06:24
fritschSylenze: .net is windows, isn`t it?06:24
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jasjin local user no06:24
Sylenzefritsch: but maybe it's a dotnet port for linux? =O06:24
elite101hello!06:24
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fritschSylenze: i think mono would be mentioned here ...06:24
Sylenzeelite101: hello!06:24
Sylenzefritsch: gtk sux06:25
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GoodHabitgtk really sux.06:25
GoodHabitBut06:25
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GoodHabitWhy ubuntustudio on gtk?06:25
jasjyes gtk its ugly06:25
GoodHabitWhy ubuntu - always 1st @ distrowatch?06:25
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GoodHabitKuubntu has 16th place06:26
SylenzeGoodHabit: where?06:26
ArkardTraX, may i send you a txt with the Error as the Screen says?06:26
dewdso how to reset aptitude that it does not want to complete some (unwanted by me) action06:26
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GoodHabitSylenze: distrowatch[dot] com06:26
SylenzeGoodHabit: i see06:27
llutzGoodHabit: ask those stupid questions to those, who voted06:27
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elite101www.distrowatch.com06:27
GoodHabitHeh. I am using subj and know what gtk is sucks. But gtk is more popular.06:27
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TraXArkard: If dcc send doesn't work use a pastebin and give me the link06:27
GoodHabitSo maybe smth will change when kde 4 will release.06:28
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Arkardwhat is a pastebin?06:28
GoodHabitAnd why canonical ubuntu are developed more than kubuntu?06:28
GoodHabit^)06:28
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GoodHabitArkard: pastebin - site for share a text or code06:28
GoodHabitnopaste.com06:28
GoodHabitOr others.06:28
ArkardOk, thanks06:29
jasji dont now but gnome its 3 levels down abobe kde06:29
GoodHabitjasj: sry, what about you r speaking?06:29
soulrider_!samba06:29
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT06:29
GoodHabitI mean I dont understanding.06:29
fritschjasj: you cannot say this. some very good kde applications are missing (k3b, konversation ...), but gnome is very integrated06:29
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GoodHabitNot very.06:30
GoodHabitI am using kubuntu and ubuntustudio.06:30
GoodHabitArtwork @ ubuntustudio is better )06:30
ArkardTraX http://nopaste.com/p/aDLNU0NIW06:30
GoodHabitBut KDE is integrated much more.06:30
jasj(is a chat)look this you can work in kde like gnome, but gnome like kde... no kde its configurable but gnome its ...06:30
TraXArkard: What is the file name of the nvidia.run you are using?06:31
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waylandbillkde's library reuse is very effecient.06:32
Arkardi rename it06:32
jussi01!offtopic | GoodHabit:06:32
ubotuGoodHabit:: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!06:32
GoodHabitSomebody can show the samba config working shared on homenetwork?06:32
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Arkardlet me find it again06:32
GoodHabitjussi01: Ty.06:32
jussi01:)06:32
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TraXOk, just use sudo sh whateveryourenameditto.run -k$(uname -r)06:32
jussi01GoodHabit: btw, there is no gutsy update for ubuntu studio as yet06:32
ArkardTrax NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run06:33
TraXArkard: sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run -k$ (uname -r)06:33
GoodHabitjussi01: Ty again!06:33
Arkardlet me try TraX06:34
Arkardsee ya in a minute06:34
TraXArkard: the -k$(uname -r) at the end should get it to work just fine06:34
GoodHabitEm..  <TraX> Arkard: sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run - why don't using the repo-drivers?06:34
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Okapihello to all06:34
ArkardSorry, TraX can you repeat me the Command?06:34
TraXArkard: sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run -k$(uname -r)06:35
Arkardi forgot to write it :P06:35
ArkardThanks06:35
GoodHabitEm..  <TraX> Arkard: sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run - why don't using the repo-drivers?06:35
TraXGoodHabit: Some people can't get the repository drivers to work for their cards (eg my 8800gts)06:35
GoodHabitTraX: Even nvidia-glx-new does not help?!06:35
ArkardK BRB06:36
Sylenzehey a question06:36
Sylenzeanyone knows Enlightment?06:36
GoodHabitHaha.06:36
GoodHabitYes.06:36
Sylenzeit's a distro right06:36
TraXGoodHabit: I kept getting a "Failed to load module v41" error06:36
GoodHabitEverybody i think. But is it offtopic?06:36
OkapiI have this error when I start my pc: Kernet panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0). Any one can help?06:36
llutzSylenze: it's a window-manager06:37
GoodHabitTraX: It is a only yours problem, or general?06:37
SylenzeIlutz: something like KDE or like Konqueror?06:37
anthronautGoodHabit: This was today's big question in #kubuntu. "But is is offtopic?"06:37
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llutzSylenze: something like kwin, fluxbox, icewm, xfwm06:37
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GoodHabit)06:37
SylenzeIlutz: what?!06:37
SylenzeT_T06:38
szachistanope, e17 is like duke nukem 3d ;)06:38
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GoodHabitSylenze: What problem u have with enlighment?06:38
TraXGoodHabit: I'm not sure why he has to use the nvidia binary but he said he needed help with it06:38
llutzSylenze: google for "window manager" they will explain you the difference. KDE is a desktop environment, more than just a wm06:38
SylenzeIlutz: and konqueror?06:38
GoodHabitMb he don't know about repo?06:39
llutzSylenze: is a browser06:39
SylenzeGoodHabit: i saw it on a video. with cool lighting effects06:39
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anthronautSylenze: Enlightenment is not a Linix Distribution, it's a Window Manager. That's a piece of software that''s responsible fow windows are displayed.06:39
szachistaSylenze: new e17 is very unstable06:39
SylenzeIlutz: ok06:39
GoodHabitIt is bad to install to debian-like distros without packet manager.06:39
ArkardIm back again06:39
szachistaSylenze: you shouldn't install it if your'e not a developer06:39
Sylenzeanthronaut: and how's enlightment's dristro called?06:39
Arkardand nothing06:39
GoodHabitSylenze: Enlighnment is not good decision for kubuntu. Why dont want to try beryl? Or some beta of compiz-fusion?06:40
szachistaSylenze: elive06:40
SylenzeGoodHabit: no please listen06:40
Sylenzeszachista: thanks06:40
anthronautSylenze: Enlightenment can be used with any disribution out there. It works on top of them.06:40
TraXArkard: Same error?06:40
Arkardnop, another06:40
Sylenzei only wanted to say it has cool light effects =x06:40
Arkardhere: http://nopaste.com/p/aDqEN1dPM06:40
GoodHabit)06:40
TraXArkard: Did you try using the drivers from the repositories?06:40
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jasj#kde_vs_gnome06:40
GoodHabitSylenze: U must to install it now ) Or die )06:41
inaetyArkard: install the legacy drivers?06:41
SylenzeGoodHabit: but i allready have a window manager i think06:41
Arkardlet me see06:41
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anthronautSylenze: You most probably do06:41
GoodHabitSylenze: I was jokening...06:41
Sylenzenoez D:06:41
jasjsylenze are you female???06:41
Sylenzejasj: no are you male???06:42
fritsch:-)06:42
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szachistaSylenze: damn, are you gay? :P06:42
GoodHabitSylenze: Where r u from?06:42
GoodHabit)06:42
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Sylenzeszachista: why?!06:42
SylenzeGoodHabit: why?!06:42
szachista18:52Sylenzejasj: no are you male???06:42
GoodHabitSylenze: It was joke again )06:42
pag!offtopic06:42
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!06:42
ArkardTraX Nvidia-glx-Legacy or nvidia-legacy-kernel-source?06:43
OkapiI have this error when I start my pc: Kernet panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0). Any one can help?06:43
SylenzeGoodHabit: that was no joke, you don't make sense =x06:43
Sylenzewtf! Ati driver for linux is 40MB?!06:43
timyou recon its got a load of software side hardware acceleration in it?06:44
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GoodHabitSylenze: #badwords06:44
tim*you recon its got a load of software side 3D acceleration in it?06:44
arashHi, how do I do complrete reinstall of Kmix. so it dont remember what I said to it before06:44
TraXArkard: You might have to google it or ask around here (i'm not entirely sure how the install process goes for those)06:44
inaetyis there anyway to make it so i can run freevo without root priveledges?06:45
ArkardK, man Thanks06:45
SylenzeGoodHabit: i guess that was... a joke? xD06:45
TraXArkard: You could probably get the nvidia binary driver to work but that would require a kernel build06:45
GoodHabitSylenze: No, I just wanna to say what u r speaking dirty.06:46
Arkardah06:46
SylenzeGoodHabit: i don't speak dirty...06:46
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GoodHabit<Sylenze> wtf! Ati driver for linux is 40MB?! - what means "wt*"? U r dirty-speaker. Stop flooding please.06:46
tsdgeosSylenze: well, GoodHabit thinks wtf is a bad word06:46
GoodHabit)06:47
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timpolicy decision here, is OMG a bad word? some people thing profaning the lords name counts as a curse06:48
GoodHabitNot a cure actually.06:48
szachistatim: no, as long as it's MY god06:48
GoodHabitBut it is bad too.06:48
GoodHabit:o)06:48
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mneptokit's probably fine if not overused.06:49
GoodHabitWhat web-browser have kde4?06:49
llutzOh My whoo06:49
mneptokthat's my personal opinion.06:49
szachistaGoodHabit: konqueror06:49
tsdgeosGoodHabit: kde4 is not released, so no browser yet ;-)06:49
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szachistaGoodHabit: i've tried it 2 weeks ago, nothing new :(06:49
GoodHabitStrange.06:49
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GoodHabitThere is a dolphin.06:49
GoodHabitBut no web-browser...06:49
timare we expecting KDE 4 to be in the next kbuntu release?06:50
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szachistahttp://www.imgplace.com/directory/dir729/1187182577.png06:50
llutztim: nope, in 8.0406:50
ArkardThe repo Legacy is Broken06:50
szachistahttp://www.imgplace.com/directory/dir729/1187182621.png06:50
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szachistaargh... it's so ugly06:50
SylenzeGoodHabit: sorry but i allways say wtf... maybe i can try to say wth oO06:50
szachistai was expecting much more from kde406:50
GoodHabitHow I can switch off on konversation join|06:51
GoodHabitHow I can switch off on konversation join|part messages and timestampes?06:51
GoodHabitI cannot find option (06:51
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GoodHabitOr i need to install another IRC client? What other clients kde have?06:51
llutzGoodHabit: settings, chat-window06:52
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TraXGoodHabit: kvirc is one of them06:52
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zgmf-x20ahey anyone know where vlc media player installs to???????06:52
szachistazgmf-x20a: how did you install it?06:53
zgmf-x20athru adept szachista06:53
szachistazgmf-x20a: external package? sources? package from repaos?06:53
szachistazgmf-x20a: you can list files installed by a package06:53
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szachistazgmf-x20a: i think adept has this function, synaptic can do this06:53
zgmf-x20aszachista: erm, well im looking thru the files in my system b/c im trying to associate it with online media06:54
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zgmf-x20aso i dont have to download it06:54
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zgmf-x20aso im at filesystem now, and which subfolder would it be in??06:54
szachistazgmf-x20a: why do you use vlc anyway?06:54
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Sylenzeman... i don't want to develope c# in gtk =(06:55
szachistazgmf-x20a: i'm not a fanboy of any media player, but vlc really sucks, it's good only for streaming media06:55
szachistazgmf-x20a: /usr/bin/vlc, /usr/share/vlc and so on06:55
szachistazgmf-x20a: that's where it keeps file on my system06:55
zgmf-x20aszachista: i use it b/c it has good codec supprt.  everything else sucks and requires me to find/install packages06:56
szachistazgmf-x20a: i would recommend you smpalyer + mplayer + w32codecs06:56
GoodHabitCan smb share config file of samba? The kubuntu options @ control center does not work, nobody can use my share, they cannot enter to my shared folders.06:56
szachistazgmf-x20a: smplayer is not in repositories, but it's the best frontend i've seen so far06:56
GoodHabitI wanna guest entrance...06:56
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ArkardTrax AT LAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!06:58
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zgmf-x20aszachista: AWESOME, IT WORKED, THANKS MAN06:58
zgmf-x20aszachista: and i will check those out , see how they run06:58
TraXArkard: I just reread the driver install log and the legacy drivers should work just fine for you06:58
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ArkardYeah, it works perfectly06:59
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Arkardnow im using Compiz Fusion TraX07:00
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OkapiI have this error when I start my pc: Kernet panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0). Any one can help?07:00
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ArkardTraX, thanks a lot man07:00
Arkardyou really have patience07:01
ArkardT_T i really appreciate that man07:01
szachistaOkapi: have you recompiled your kernel before?07:01
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NetersLandreaudoes anybody have any experience running vmware? i get prompted for windows activation, click ok.. it then immediately logs me off07:01
szachistaOkapi: or have you changed anything in your /boot/grub/menu.lst?07:01
andrew_ne one here knows how to get limewire to work?07:01
Okapiszachista: No, I just restart my PC and voila!07:01
TraXArkard: Hehe, you don't know what patience is until you've seen what I had to go through to get 3d to work on my main system07:02
szachistaOkapi: ohh... that's bad, very bad...07:02
Sylenzei think i'll learn c++07:02
Okapiszachista: Yes, I imagine...And now trying to bring it back..07:02
jasjnow i can open my windows files, tanks kubuntu, tanks07:03
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andrew_lime wire opens,,,, but I'm not gettinn' connected... anyone here understands what could be the problem and give a possible solution?07:03
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ArkardReally thanks man07:04
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TraXSylenze: http://www.cprogramming.com/07:05
SylenzeTraX: thanks!07:06
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SylenzeTraX: but i'll first search for my beloved c# on linux... i found "DotGNU"07:06
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TraXSylenze: If you want a good book get the dietel & dietel c# book07:06
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Sylenzewho07:07
Sylenzewho's dietel?07:07
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andrew_dietel it the writer of the book....07:07
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TraXSylenze: The writer of the book07:08
andrew_I have the dietel & dietel c++07:08
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combohow can i unpack a *.rar file through ARK / which archive is secured with password that i know ?07:09
andrew_the book you want is called c# hoow to program07:09
Sylenzeif they aren't brothers or something, it's really a funny coincidence with the name xD07:09
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TraXSylenze: Father/son I believe07:09
SylenzeTraX: i'm poor07:09
andrew_something like that trax07:10
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waylandbillTraX: I was going to say that although I guess it could even been a father-in-law/daughter-in-law just as easily. :-)\07:10
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Sylenzei'm really poor!07:10
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TraXSylenze: You could probably find it on amazon used really cheap07:10
waylandbillSylenze: there are plenty of resources on the web.07:10
SylenzeTraX: i can't buy something on internets07:11
SylenzeTraX: i'm scared of buying from internet07:11
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andrew_question....07:11
andrew_anyone in here uses limewire?07:11
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Bam2550i do07:11
TraXSylenze: Sign up for microsoft's mailing lists, I got a free copy of visual studio 2005 standard just for filling out a survey07:11
Sylenzeandrew_: limewire isn't good D:07:11
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Bam2550limewire is "sharing"07:11
SylenzeTraX: i don't live in the US and the A07:11
andrew_from you installed it, you got it to work right away?07:11
waylandbillSylenze: seeing as most banks are linked to the internet, you probably have as much to worry about shopping at the supermarket as an internet site.07:12
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Bam2550andrew_ are you using linux?07:12
Sylenzewaylandbill: but it's not good! internets should be free!07:12
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andrew_yup... kubuntu07:12
Bam2550andrew_: did you download the linux version?07:12
andrew_yup...07:13
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Bam2550Then after you install. You can just open it07:13
andrew_it opens and everyting, but It's not connecting...07:13
Bam2550and start downloading07:13
Bam2550Oh...07:13
Bam2550Hmm try to go into one of the drop down menus near the top07:13
Bam2550and see if there is something that says07:13
Bam2550connect07:13
Bam2550or disconnect07:13
andrew_did that...07:13
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Bam2550rgwn im out of ideas07:13
Bam2550then im out of ideas*07:13
Bam2550bye07:13
andrew_:(07:14
andrew_this sucks......07:14
andrew_no limewire for me... :(07:14
ch40scan anyone here give me some advice to get nvidia working on my box?07:14
waylandbillandrew_: did you try frostwire?07:15
waylandbill!nvidia07:15
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:15
effacedi am having a problem with my dhcp obtaining an ip, can anyone help me trouble shoot, ive tried tons of stuff from thr web with no luck07:15
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ch40sthanks ubotu07:15
Sylenzethe "pnet" isn't in my start menu! oh noez!07:15
andrew_nope.... what's frostwire all about?07:15
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waylandbill!frostwire07:16
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire07:16
SavakAnyone here managed to get frostwire working on BT in the UK? :P07:16
andrew_so I should uninstall limewire then?07:16
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waylandbillandrew_: I've had good success with frostwire. It's worth a try. Maybe it will work for you.07:17
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andrew_thanks.... I'm gonna try it now...07:17
andrew_brb07:17
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colehey07:18
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namolwhy are you trying to use limewire?07:21
andrew_because I didn't hear for frostwire before.....07:22
waylandbillmost likely a little illegal music downloading... that's like 90% of what it's used for. :-)07:23
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Sylenzeit's not illegal! you can download it FREE! it's GNU Music!07:23
waylandbillSylenze: okay. Specifically copyrighted music. :-D07:24
namolyou going to download that awesome gnu rap?07:24
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Sylenzewaylandbill: that's not copyrighted, it's teh GNU license07:24
Sylenze*the07:24
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Mark_Newbhelp installing 8800GTS with dual screens07:24
SylenzeMark_Newb: D:07:25
Mark_Newbwhats that mean sylenze07:25
waylandbillSylenze: 90% of the downloads that you would find by using the software (which is free) is not free.07:25
Mark_Newbhelp installing 8800GTS with dual screens07:26
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NickPrestaMark_Newb, have you visited the Ubuntuforums topic that deals with dual screens?07:26
Mark_Newbyeah07:26
waylandbill!dualhead07:26
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama07:26
Mark_Newbi can't even get the nvidia card tow ork07:26
namolsounds like a driver issue07:27
Mark_Newbyes thats why i am asking for help07:27
NickPrestaMark_Newb, I have a 7900 GS and I use Twinview. It works quite well.07:27
Mark_Newbhow do I get it all working then nick07:27
NickPresta!nvidia | Mark_Newb07:27
ubotuMark_Newb: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:27
NickPrestafollow that, if you haven't07:27
Mark_Newbdid that nick07:27
Mark_Newbit messed up my install07:27
NickPrestaMark_Newb, how so?07:27
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waylandbillMark_Newb: which method did you use to install the nvidia driver?07:28
Mark_Newbx could not start after following the install instructions07:28
Mark_Newbdid hte restricted devices07:28
NickPrestaMark_Newb, did you change your xorg.conf to reflect your driver change?07:28
basfrankhallo allerseits07:28
Sylenzelets have a gnu movie!07:28
Sylenzehi07:28
Mark_Newbno clue whatcha mean07:28
waylandbilldid /var/log/Xorg.0.log tell the error?07:28
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Mark_Newbhold please i will chekc the logs07:29
Sylenzebasfrank: this is international irc :P07:29
basfrankI have a question regarding the latest amule: Why does it always crash?07:29
darlokHmm... strange issue.  When I run OpenOffice.org Writer, all my toolbar icons are gone and replaced with text.  I've looked all over the place in the settings to fix this, but selecting "Icons Only" doesn't help.  What happened and how do I fix it?07:29
waylandbillNickPresta: I think the restricted manager would do that for you07:29
Sylenzedarlok: settings?07:29
darlokSylenze: I deleted ~/.openoffice2   Same problem07:30
waylandbillbasfrank: you may have better luck asking the mantainers of amule that.07:30
elite101hahaha omg my friend is sooooo dum07:30
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elite101My friend got VCDrom for windows mounted DSL linux rebooted his computer changed in the BIOS bootfrom CDROM and thought it would boot the mounted ISO in windows hahhahahahahhaha07:31
Mark_Newbits gone from the logs07:31
Mark_Newbi can get it to do it again if you like07:31
waylandbillMark_Newb: you'll want to look at the log when X is failing, BTW. :)07:31
Mark_Newbthat i did07:31
Mark_Newbhang on i will get ya the information07:31
Sylenzedarlok: maybe you look at FAQ then...07:31
Mark_Newbback in a few07:31
Sylenzequestion: where can i get the Jahshaka Repo?07:32
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basfrankwaylandbill: i mean is it a common problem or am i the only kubuntuuser experiencing this?07:34
Angelusdoes someone know where kde is installed on kubuntu? (in which directory)07:35
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SylenzeAngelus: type kde in konqueror07:35
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Angelus:O07:35
Angelusjust kde?07:35
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SylenzeAngelus: or locate:kde07:36
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Sylenzethis will search kde ;D07:36
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Sylenzewhat are .sh files?07:38
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namolshell scrupt files normally07:38
kkathmanCan someone please suggest the best "how-to" for getting compiz-fusion running under kubuntu?  I got beryl running fine under ubuntu and SUSE, but I cant get either running under kubuntu :(07:38
namolscript*07:39
namolnot scrupt07:39
szachistaSylenze: theris "file" command, it will tell you more about any file07:39
namol#!/bin.bash07:39
Sylenzenamol: how can i run them?07:39
namol./nameoffile.sh normally07:39
Sylenzei know07:39
namolunless you down have permissions to run them07:39
Sylenzebut it says permission dned07:39
namoldon't07:39
Sylenze*denied07:39
namolthen you can't07:39
ArwenSylenze, chmod +x07:40
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Mark_Newbhello07:40
Mark_Newbok I am back07:40
namolunless your chmod 755 filename07:40
namolor chmod +x07:40
danielroninHello all, I have a new Asus F3T, can anyone here help me determine my wireless chipset?07:40
Sylenzejahshaka-dapper-x86.sh is the name, but i have FEISTY07:40
namolthe filename07:40
Mark_Newbyou guys got  a pastebin or something where i  can put the log out puts07:40
namol!paste07:40
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:40
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Mark_Newbcool07:40
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Sylenzethe acces if even denied as root!!!07:41
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Mark_Newbhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36064/07:42
namolsudo ./jahshaka-dapper-x86.sh doesn't work?07:42
Mark_Newbthats the log file after I install the restricted drivesr07:42
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Mark_Newb(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device PCI:1:0:0.07:43
Mark_Newbthats the exact error07:43
danielroninis there a way to determine my wireless chipset with any shell commands?07:43
Sylenzenamol: ./jahshaka-dapper-x86.sh brings me "bash: ./jahshaka-dapper-x86.sh: Permission denied"07:43
Ace2016Mark_Newb: What card do you have?07:44
namolwhat's it trying to change?07:44
namol(EE) NVIDIA(0):     Please see the COMMON PROBLEMS section in the README for07:44
Sylenzeit's on my desktop, i make:       cd /home/sylenze/Desktop and then ./jahshaka-dapper-x86.sh07:44
namolEE) NVIDIA(0):     additional information.07:44
ArwenSylenze, you have to set scripts to be executable.07:44
ArwenListen when people talk.07:44
SylenzeSylenze: nobody told me that!07:44
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Ace2016chmod +x jahshaka-dapper-x86.sh07:44
SylenzeArwen: nobody told me that!07:44
Mark_Newb8800GTS07:44
Arwen[13:40]  <Arwen> Sylenze, chmod +x <--07:44
Arwenchmod +x filename07:44
Ace2016Mark_Newb: was that the driver from the repo? that will not work07:45
SylenzeArwen: i don't know who's chmod, please explain T_T07:45
Arwen.................07:45
namol!chmod07:45
ubotuThe files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux07:45
namolawesome07:45
Sylenzeaw i don't want to browse internets =(07:45
namolthen you must not want to learn07:45
Arwenif you don't want to put effort into something, don't expect anything out of it07:46
Ace2016Mark_Newb: you will need envy: http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html07:46
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Mark_Newbace i followed the instructiosn from when you type !nvidia07:46
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Arwenoh god no, not envy07:46
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Arwen!envy07:46
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!07:46
Sylenzechmod: missing operand after `+x'07:46
ArwenSylenze, chmod +x *FILENAME*07:46
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Mark_Newbok so what do i do07:46
SylenzeArwen do i have to do cd first?07:46
Arwen...............07:47
SylenzeArwen: try to be nice, you know you want friends!07:47
Mark_Newbcan someone just please help me install my 8800GTS without using any special programs or scripts07:47
Arwenyou can perform operations on files in the same directory as you by calling their filenames07:47
Arwenyou can perform operations on files not in the same directory by prefixing the name with a path07:47
SylenzeArwen: thanks =D07:47
Arwenlike /home/loser/Desktop/pr0n.jpg07:47
Ace2016Mark_Newb: well that app is pretty much the fasiest way to do it, i tried myself to set it up and failed completely07:48
Sylenze-.-07:48
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Sylenzeat least you gave it a try07:48
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wckdkl0wnwhat other burning software is there for dvd drives other then k3b? i did a simulate with k3b and worked fine.. tryed to do an actual burn and it errored out07:49
Sylenze./jahshaka-dapper-x86.sh: 3: Syntax error: "(" unexpected07:49
Arwenpastebin the script07:49
SylenzeArwen: gimme a pastebin07:49
wckdkl0wn!pastebin07:49
Arwen!pastebin07:49
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:49
Sylenzebut that's netherlands07:49
Arwenso?07:50
Arwenpastebin.ca is in Canada if that helps07:50
Sylenzecool07:50
hydrogenit doesn't matter where it is07:50
hydrogenthey won't steal your data's!07:50
Sylenzethey will!07:50
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Sylenzehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36066/07:51
wckdkl0wnwhat can i use for burning dvd projects?07:51
Ace2016k3b07:51
cloakablek3b07:51
wckdkl0wni tryed k3b07:51
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emilsedghwckdkl0wn: mandvd, k3b .. ?07:51
Sylenzeubuntu is my father07:51
wckdkl0wnworked fine in simulation.. on actual burn it always errors out07:51
BluesKajwckdkl0wn, there are few others like k9copy , acidrip and tovid-gui, tovid-cli07:52
Ace2016what are you tring to do?07:52
wckdkl0wnwho u talking to Ace201607:52
wckdkl0wnme?07:52
Ace2016you07:52
BluesKajwckand of course the ever popular devede ...07:52
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wckdkl0wni converted a xvid movie to dvd format.. now i am tryin to burn it07:53
BluesKajwckdkl0wn, devede , as well07:53
Ace2016oh well guessing its not k3b's fault then07:53
wckdkl0wnwell k3b in simulation mode ruined one of my blanks lol.. at the end of simulation it copied a small bit of data to the dvd07:54
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Sylenzehelp!!07:55
Sylenzehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36066/07:55
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Sylenzehelp! i installed pnet from reposority but i can't find it!07:57
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llutzSylenze: i don't know, but i guess its a commandline prog, so open konsole and type pnet07:57
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wckdkl0wni wonder if i can burn a cd in innotek virtual box07:58
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BluesKajwckdkl0wn, are you reading any of the responses to you complaints ?07:58
kai__#kubuntu-de07:58
wckdkl0wnyea i tryed those programs07:58
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wckdkl0wnone couldnt import my vid files07:59
Ace2016brb, chewing lightbulbs was a bad idea07:59
secleinteerhi, does anyone know how to make new tabs in konqueror open to ~ instead of about:blank?08:00
BluesKajwckdkl0wn, which one ?08:00
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wckdkl0wndevede08:00
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Ace2016secleinteer: settings > configure konqueror > web behaviour and in tabbed browsing section tick "Open links in new tab instead of new window"08:01
BluesKajk9copy works well08:01
spongebob_hello mr or mss08:02
secleinteerAce2016: the problem's not that links are opening in new windows, it's that when i open a new tab in konqueror, it's defaulting to about:blank instead of ~08:02
sylenzeklipper ftw!!08:02
Turazooranyone know the command for searching for wlan APs?08:02
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spongebob_i forget to xorg.conf file creator command08:03
spongebob_for rebuild08:03
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llutzTurazoor: iwlist s08:04
Turazoorcheers llutz.... again lol08:04
sylenzehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36066/ <- need help please!08:04
Turazoor... oh ok...08:04
Turazoorapparently wlan1 doesn't support searching for Wlan APs??????... so what else is it for hey lol08:05
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PsycoshotHey, has anyone here had a problem with Amarok, the list, instead of it being 1 lighter colour, one darker, it goes 1 REALLY light the other normally dark.08:05
PsycoshotRight now my lsit goes white dark blue, white, dark blue08:05
TurazoorPsycoshot: are you sure it isn't the theme?08:06
danielronincan anyone here assist me in patching my wireless driver?08:06
PsycoshotWell, It was fine, but when I change desktops and look back, its changed08:06
danielroninis it just a matter of make with -enable-kernel-module?08:06
Ace2016#kde should know08:06
Ace2016secleinteer: #kde should know08:06
secleinteerAce2016: i asked there, and no one replied :(08:07
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spongebob_huhu08:07
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sylenzeis it legal to rip my own Music CD?08:09
llutzsylenze: sure08:10
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sylenzebut it says copy protected!08:10
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sylenze(the cover says so)08:10
secleinteersylenze: doesn't matter, you'll be fine ;)08:10
sylenzesecleinteer: oO08:11
sylenzeit's Gorillaz - Demon Days08:11
Arwenso what?08:11
Arwennobody can tell you what you do with your own stuff08:11
sylenzethey can08:11
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sylenzelike Windows08:11
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Arwen...08:11
sylenze"you succesfully installed updates now click the button to restart, else your parents will die"08:11
Arwen................08:12
sylenzethat really annoyed me =/08:12
Arwendon't troll, it's unbecoming08:12
secleinteer.........08:12
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sylenzetroll?08:12
secleinteeri.e. saying stupid/annoying things08:12
sylenze.......08:12
level1!aptfix08:13
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 08:13
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sylenzehelp i got a "malformed" line!!08:14
nicolai_Arwen: In many countries the law prevents you from circumventing copy protection - even if it is for personal use.08:14
secleinteernicolai_: yeah but it's not like the police is going to come knocking on my door if i rip a dvd08:14
sylenzeyes i will get 5 years of jail08:14
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secleinteersylenze: what country you in?08:15
sylenzesecleinteer: i live in germany (but i'm not from germany!!)08:15
llutzIt's your own fault if you buy "copyprotected" cds08:15
secleinteersylenze: well do it anyway08:15
sylenzellutz: it was a present08:15
secleinteeryou're not going to go to jail08:15
nicolai_secleinteer: But it's still illegal. I wouldn't care either, but I just thought it needed to be said08:16
sylenzesecleinteer: but Kaffeine only knows ogg vorbis =(08:16
SavakYou get internet in German prisons don't you? ;)08:16
sylenzenicolai_: but it's my own music CD08:16
llutznope08:16
sylenzeSavak: what?08:16
ArwenBut you don't own the music, you own the CD08:16
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sylenzeArwen: so i can hear it on my computer08:16
Savakand TV08:16
llutzSavak: tv yes08:16
sylenzei can't hear my tv08:16
Savaknever mind sylenze :p08:17
nicolai_sylenze: It is only your own music if you made it yourself. Many record companies would say the CD was only a 'one person' license.08:17
spongebob_thnx guys08:17
sylenzeyay!08:17
sylenzei'm a pirate!!!08:17
spongebob_sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom08:17
spongebob_sudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum'08:17
spongebob_sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:17
Savakyour pretty much renting optical media08:18
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secleinteer!lame08:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lame - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:18
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sylenzelol08:18
sylenzeubuntu is lameless!08:18
secleinteer!mp308:18
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:18
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secleinteer!restrictedformats08:18
Arwenby the way: mp3s suck in every sense of the word08:18
sylenzeArwen: help me please!08:19
secleinteeryeah, rip to flac if you can08:19
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SavakWhat do u use then Arwen08:19
sylenzeArwen: sources.list is root only, but i'm the only user!08:19
Arwen!sudo | sylenze08:19
ubotusylenze: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:19
sylenzenono08:20
sylenzei need to change something in it, i can't have sudo to make it08:20
secleinteer!flac08:20
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:20
ArwenSavak, Vorbis for stereo audio, HE-AAC for really low bitrate audio or multi-channel audio, and FLAC for archival.08:20
sylenzeArwen: i need to delete the line 45 in sources.list08:21
Savakhmmm research time for me08:21
Arwensylenze, sudo nano file08:21
ArwenWhether or not Vorbis or LC-AAC is better for medium bitrate stereo is arguable, but Vorbis makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside08:21
secleinteersylenze: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping#head-dccaf9e84d2ac4d5a52567d5a37d011ebb46285f08:22
secleinteervery easy to rip CDs08:22
secleinteerArwen: what's worng  with flac?08:22
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ArwenIt reduces my disk space?08:23
Arwenhuhuh08:23
sylenzeArwen: how can i save in nano?08:23
Arwensylenze, ctrl+o08:23
secleinteeris disk space really a problem anymore?08:23
sylenzethanks08:23
Arwensecleinteer, YES08:23
ArwenI have 200MB free space left08:23
secleinteerlol ok08:23
sylenzeflac?08:23
sylenzesounds like warfare08:23
secleinteerhahaha08:23
secleinteeri've got about 200 GB left here ;)08:23
ArwenFLAC is a lossless codec, designed for making 1:1 copies of audio08:23
Arwensecleinteer, hint: disk space is meant to be used08:24
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sylenzeArwen: that's not good08:24
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secleinteerFLAC == free lossless audio codec08:24
secleinteerArwen: yeah, i've already used 550GB08:24
secleinteeri'm working on it ;)08:24
sylenzei don't have bat ears, i can't tell the difference between full quality mp3 and "original"08:24
secleinteeri tend to burn stuff to dvd though, so that saves me space08:24
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sylenzebtw, my boxes suck08:24
Arwensylenze, it's not meant for listening08:24
secleinteersylenze: it's an OCD thing :D08:24
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sylenzesecleinteer: please describe =(08:24
Arwenbut so that if you need your music in say Y format, you can convert from an original source rather than a already lossy one08:25
secleinteersylenze: describe what?08:25
sylenzeoh that sounds logical08:25
sylenzescleinteer: OCD08:25
ArwenObsessive Compulsive Disorder?08:25
secleinteeryeah lol08:25
sylenzeyay, i repaired my reposority :D08:25
secleinteeronly about my comp though08:25
secleinteereverything around me is a mess :D08:25
sylenzeKaffeine is lame!08:26
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ScorpKinguse vlc08:26
secleinteersylenze: lol why's that?08:26
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Arwenoh god no, not VLC08:26
secleinteerlol08:26
ScorpKinglol08:26
sylenzescleinteer: it takes a week to decode the album!08:26
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secleinteeronly reason vlc is bad is because it uses gtk08:26
Arwenit uses wxwidgets08:26
secleinteersylenze: use the kio-slaves in konqueror08:26
Arwenwhich on Linux means it effectively uses GTK+, but there's a difference08:27
secleinteertype 'audiocd:/' into the address bar08:27
sylenzei don't like slave workers08:27
secleinteeryeah well too bad :P08:27
Arwenanyway, VLC crashes every other minute and can't even show subtitles08:27
ScorpKingnot mine08:27
secleinteerArwen: actually, i had trouble with subtitles in both kaffeine and vlc :P08:27
secleinteeronly mplayer worked for that08:27
ArwenMPlayer08:27
sylenzeArwen: i installed "pnet" from the reposority, but i can't find it! please help me master!08:27
Arwenit has libass08:27
Arwenit's the only one worth using08:27
Arwensylenze, pnet?08:27
secleinteerand the OSD of the play time in kaffeine is really annoying08:28
sylenzeArwen: it's c# on linux without GTK!08:28
Okapihow can you turn of the splash on booting?08:28
sylenzeOkapi: system settings, appreance08:28
sylenzei mean splash screen08:28
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Arwentry "dpkg -L pnet"08:28
ScorpKingbootsplash?08:28
Arwenit'll show you what files it installed08:28
Okapisylenze: thank you08:28
Okapiyes, bootsplash08:29
ScorpKingsomewhere in grub. :-)08:29
sylenzeOkapi: you have KEbab or Ubuntu?08:29
secleinteerOkapi: you want to see the messages at boot?08:29
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secleinteerif you just want to see it once, press ctrl+alt+f108:30
Okapiyes, I want be able to see the message on boot08:30
secleinteerctrl+alt+f1 will work08:30
secleinteerpermanent solution is in grub config file08:30
OkapiI have Kubuntu Feist08:30
secleinteergo to /etc/grub/grub.conf for that08:30
secleinteeri mean /boot/grub/grub.conf08:31
Okapiok, thank you guys. Let try...08:31
secleinteerhmmm, it's not in there....08:31
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ScorpKingi think there is a nosplash option in /boot/grub/menu.list08:32
secleinteerthere we go08:32
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secleinteermenu.list08:32
mariahola08:32
secleinteer"# defoptions=quiet splash" <-- that might be it08:32
mariahello08:32
ScorpKingya08:33
Okapihello maria08:33
mariahello okapi, how are u?08:33
Okapimaria: fine and yourself?08:33
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chervafrom where i can change the bit depth of the desktop ?08:34
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mariaokapi: fine too08:35
Okapimaria: what is new in your place?08:35
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llutzcherva: /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:36
sylenzeArwen: WHY DID YOU DO THAT %$&%$&$08:36
secleinteersylenze: what happened? :P08:36
sylenze-.-'08:36
Arwenwhay?08:36
sylenzewhy did you do that to me08:36
Arwendo what?08:37
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sylenzethat ctrl+alt+f1 thingy08:37
sylenzeyou kknow i'm new to kubuntu08:37
ArwenI didn'08:37
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andrew_what does that do?08:37
Arwen[14:30]  <secleinteer> if you just want to see it once, press ctrl+alt+f1 <-- you mean that?08:37
sylenzethat's more worse then alt+f4 on windows!08:37
Arwenctrl+alt+f1 brings up the first virtual terminal08:37
Arwenusually a command shell08:38
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ScorpKingsylenze: press ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to graphics08:38
sylenzeman -.-08:38
Arwenor 8 or 9 if your kdm is broken like mine08:38
sylenzethat's like sudo for me08:38
secleinteerHAHAHAHA08:38
andrew_yo....08:38
secleinteersylenze: did you hit ctrl+alt+f1 and not know how to get back?08:38
andrew_linux is the best...08:38
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sylenzescleinteer: i tested ctrl+f2, f3 and f4 -.-08:38
sylenzearwen: you ow me something08:39
secleinteersylenze: should've gone up to 7 :P08:39
ArwenI didn't tell you to do that...08:39
sylenzearwen: now you have to tell me how to get pnet running?!08:39
sylenzeArwen: but you knew i would do that...08:39
Arwensylenze, I don't know, never used that08:39
secleinteersylenze: no one told you to do that, i told okapi to do that :P08:39
Arwen"dpkg -L pnet" shows what files it has, maybe that'll be a clue08:39
sylenzeArwen: but it's an error!08:39
sylenzesecleinteer: oh man!08:40
sylenzesecleinteer: then YOU have to tell me how to get it running08:40
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ScorpKingsylenze: he just tried to help.08:40
secleinteeri don't even know what pnet is.....08:40
sylenzeScorpKing: now he try again =D08:40
ScorpKinglol08:40
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sylenzesecleinteer: it's not about pnet, it's about things disapear from my resopotiry08:41
maria_alguien que hable espaol?08:41
secleinteersylenze: well don't mess with the repo file08:41
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ScorpKing!es | maria_08:41
ubotumaria_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.08:41
sylenzesecleinteer: no, i downloaded it!08:41
maria_muchas gracias ubotu08:41
sylenzesearch adept manager for pnet08:42
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secleinteersylenze: you can't download the repo file, it comes with the distro.....08:42
sylenzesecleinteer: never said so Oo08:42
andrew_what is pnet all about?08:42
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secleinteer.......08:42
sylenzeit's c# on Linux without GTK!!!08:42
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secleinteeryou said something about repo file, then said you downloaded it08:42
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Arwen!shout08:43
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.08:43
sylenzebecause GTK is for crazy german kids who like to be on internet, try searching youtube for "crazy computer kid" it's very funny xD08:43
andrew_oh cool...08:43
sylenzeubotu: i can't shout on internet08:43
bgt421Hi, I'm new. I'm trying to install firefox, and it didn't come with a ./configure . What do I do about it?08:43
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llutzsylenze: could you plz try to behave like an adult human. thanks08:43
secleinteerbgt421: i think it's precompiled08:43
sylenzebgt412: open console and make sudo apt-get install firefox08:43
andrew_I'm kinda new to the Linux thing, so I hope ya'll don't mind all the questions....08:43
secleinteeryou just run the firefox script in there08:44
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sylenzellutz: sorry but i'm not an adult human08:44
llutzsylenze: i thought so08:44
andrew_I'm actuall a pc repairs technician,,  I'm used to the whole Windows thing, but I decided I want a change...08:44
andrew_lol..08:44
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DexterFhi08:45
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sylenzethere is svn for windows, it's like having a konsole inside cmd shell08:45
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DexterFneed a lil help with avidemux. audio isn't in sync with the vid, can I autoscan the offset somehow?08:45
Arwen#avidemux maybe?08:45
Savakthat would defeat the point of a konsole lol08:45
andrew_oh cool....08:46
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elite101hahhahaahahahaha lol08:46
elite101http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vg05vToa7Zk08:46
elite101dancing monkeys funny as hell08:46
sylenzeelite101: i like dancing animals!08:46
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sylenzewho doesn't ;D08:46
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Savakthat sucked lol08:47
Sylvaranthello08:47
ax1shaving issues with wg111 v2 netgear ..08:47
sylenzehi08:47
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Tomi-idleany program out there to communicate with hp lcd display on linux? (windows has hp my display)08:47
ax1salternate driver won't rmmod as not found08:47
ax1syet ndiswrapper sees the alternate driver loaded08:47
ax1show do i remove this alternate driver08:47
bgt421ok, I used apt-get install for firefox, and I get about 5 X server errors and then a bunch of gecko errors, and then it opens. Also, there aren't pretty little buttons in my Kmenu or panel. do I need to mangae those separately, or did something go bad in the install?08:48
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ax1si've got rt*everything blacklisted, rebooted08:48
bgt421That's from typing "firefox" in the terminal08:48
PsycoshotHey, does anyone here use Kiba-Dock??08:48
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Sylvarantnope08:48
PsycoshotI'm trying to get stacks to work, is it like a KDE issue?08:48
sylenzehow can i run rpm files?08:48
hydrogen jhardy08:49
hydrogenOO08:49
hydrogenOoO08:49
llutz!rpm | sylenze08:49
ubotusylenze: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)08:49
ax1ssylenze: install alien and convert them08:49
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sylenzeok thanks...08:49
ax1ssudo apt-get install alien ; alien file.rpm08:49
sylenzewhat does rpm mean?08:49
ax1sredhat package manager?08:49
ArwenRedhat Package Manager08:49
Sylvarantany one know how to set up qt in kdevelop ??08:50
ax1sanyone here have netgear wg111v2 experience08:50
elite101YEAH08:50
elite101a router?08:50
ax1snah usb wifi card08:50
Savakouch08:50
ax1s:/08:50
ax1swas workin finec b4 tho which is upsetting08:50
Savakwhat'd u change? :P08:51
ax1supdated heh08:51
ax1snow ubuntu has their own driver for it and won't let me use ndiswrapper08:51
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ax1sand the ubuntu driver breaks08:51
PsycoshotHey, does anyone here use Kiba-Dock??I'm trying to get "stacks" to work for it. I was wondering if it was a KDE problem?08:51
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Arwenoh god... docks..08:51
ax1sndiswrapper tells me "alternate drive present: rtl8187 "08:51
ax1sso i blacklist, reboot08:51
sylenzehaha dancing monkeys xD08:52
ax1ssame msg08:52
ax1srmmod rtl8187 : module not found in /proc/modules08:52
ax1sso i find the all rtl8187 stuff, rename it ... same thing08:52
sylenzeok another question: how can i run .run files?08:52
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ax1ssylenze: chmod a+x file.run08:52
ax1s./file.run08:52
sylenzethanks08:53
inaetyhello, i have a bunch of mp3's in one folder like 2500...is there anyway to have a program read their id3 tags and place them in folders according to artist > album > song?08:53
sylenzewow, i have drivers now =D08:53
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ax1snice08:53
ax1shahaha08:53
ax1si'm about to smash this netgear usb thing08:53
Savaksorry ax1s, beyond me :(08:54
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ax1sahh no worries08:54
ax1smy relationship with computers is a love/hate thing08:54
Savaklikewise, could always rollback the hard way :P08:54
ax1shehehe08:54
sylenzehelp! is this xorg?08:54
ax1sdo you know if re installing08:54
ax1swill screen up EVMS08:54
ax1sSavak: which drivers you installing08:55
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ax1ser08:55
ax1ssylenze:08:55
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sylenze"install driver 8.40.0 on X.Org 7.1 and later" ati graphics driver08:55
ax1ssylenze: are you install an old version of ati driver specifically08:55
ax1ssylenze: or just trying to install ati driver period08:55
sylenzeax1s: my graphics card is older then i am08:55
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SavakI would think so ax1s08:55
ax1shehehe08:55
sylenzeor shall i generate Distribution specifik spackage08:56
Savaksylenze must have a 7800 hehe08:56
ax1sgood question :[08:56
sylenzeSavak: no, x30008:56
ax1si have x20008:56
sylenzeak1s: so everythings fine?08:56
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ax1sheheh08:56
sylenzei clicked on "new drivers" at ati.amd.com (sad that it fused) and then Radeon -> x30008:56
ax1si just installed the ubuntu way08:57
ax1sand it worked08:57
sylenzeax1s: how?08:57
sylenzeresoptiry?08:57
ax1slet me see, sec08:57
sylenzereposority08:57
ax1shttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way08:57
sylenzeoh no a guide D:08:57
ax1sxorg-driver-fglrx08:58
ax1sthen i changed ati to fglrx08:58
sylenzeman that hurts08:58
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ax1ssudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx08:58
sylenzei don't want a new driver now my brain hurts08:58
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ax1ssudo nano /etc/X11/Xorg.conf - changed "ati" to fglrx08:59
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ax1salt-control-backspaced X-windows08:59
ax1sbamo08:59
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ax1sfglrxinfo =08:59
ax1sOpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.08:59
ax1sOpenGL renderer string: RADEON XPRESS Series08:59
ax1sOpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)08:59
Streetsurferanyone here use fglrx ati drivers and manage to get s-video output? (8.38.x drivers cos 8.40.x) screws up with mesa :/08:59
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ax1si haven't tried recently but i swear it worked before09:00
ax1si had to do something special with aticonfig tho09:00
sylenzeit's strange09:00
sylenzei don't trust xorg09:00
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ax1si don't trust ATI, period09:01
sylenzei trust ATI09:01
ax1si don't anymore.. nvidia all the way09:01
sylenzehow can i install my ati driver09:01
ax1si just told you how09:01
ax1shahaha09:01
ax1ssudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx09:01
ax1soh09:01
andrew_can someone tell me the latest version of Java runtime environment for linux?09:01
ax1svia original driver .. hmm09:01
sylenzeT_T09:01
sylenzeax1s: perhaps YOU know how to get pnet working?09:01
ax1ssylenze:  the modelling program?09:02
sylenzeax1s: no the c# programming program09:02
ax1stype sudo apt-get install pnet(then hit tab like 2-3 times)09:03
ax1s2 times should work but sometimes i have to hit it thrice09:03
bgt421is there anything special about mounting a vfat usb external hdd? mount says it's mounted but I see none of the files09:03
sylenzeax1s: what?09:03
sylenzeax1s: i installed it allready09:03
ax1sso man pnet09:03
ax1shahaha09:03
ax1sor type09:03
ax1spnet(tabcomplete)09:03
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sylenzeax1s: no wait09:04
Sylvarantdoes any one know how to set up qt in kdevelop09:04
sylenzeax1s: it's just not showing up in the "Development" tab09:04
ax1shave you restarted x windows09:04
ax1ssometimes newly added programs don't show09:04
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ax1sare you sure it's a GUI program and not CLI09:04
sylenzeax1s: how to fix it?09:04
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sylenzeax1s: it also happened me once with wine, then i uninstalled my OS09:04
sylenze*to09:05
ax1sjust re log into x-windows and see if it's there09:05
ax1slike09:05
ax1scontrol-alt-backspace to restart X09:05
sylenzewho's x-windows? i only have Kubuntu installed09:05
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ax1skubuntu and ubuntu run on x-windows09:05
sylenzewhat?!09:05
sylenzei thought it's debian!09:05
ax1sit is09:05
ax1sall linux's with GUI run x-windows just about09:05
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ax1skde and Gnome run off that09:05
ax1sthey are like themese09:05
ax1sin a way09:06
ax1sx-windows = gui09:06
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juhohello09:06
llutzax1s: btw: x-window  without "s" :)09:06
juhohow to connect quakenet?09:06
ax1shehe09:06
ax1sx-window  :)09:06
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juhoguys..09:07
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Streetsurferanyone know how to get ati cards to enable s-video out? (tvout)09:07
bgt421does any one know why files might not show up from an external hdd even if it is mounted successfully?09:07
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ax1sbgt421: do they show up in command line09:08
juhohow to get starcraft work with wine? i installed it but when connecting to bnet it tilts.. and it lags anyway09:08
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BluesKajax1s, the proper name is " X Window System " not windows ...windows confuses ppl and upsets them :)09:09
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ax1sbah .. ;] 09:09
bgt421ax1s:nope. That's where I'm looking. mount returns that it is mounted, but the files aren't there. df shows that 14% of the drive is in use, which is about right. They just won't show up with ls.09:09
ax1sbgt421:  what file system is it09:09
bgt421vfat09:09
bgt421and mounted as such09:09
ax1smounted to which folder09:10
ax1smount /dev/whatever /media/folder09:10
bgt421 /media/wd09:10
ax1swith nothing special in the command line?09:10
bgt421is where it's mounted09:10
ax1sdid it auto mount o09:10
bgt421it mounted at startup I believe. That's what I told it to do at install time anyway09:10
bgt421it's in fstab09:11
ax1spaste your fstab line, but for now umount it and try mounting it manually09:11
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bgt421when I try to mount it again, it says it is mounted09:11
bgt421ok09:11
ax1smaybe you forgot a 1  eg  /dev/SD109:11
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bgt421 /dev/sdb1            244136352  34068352 210068000  14% /media/09:11
ax1swoah it mounted as /media09:11
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ax1snot /media/wd09:11
ax1smissing /wd in /fstab?09:12
bgt421nope, it copied wrong. here it is:09:12
bgt421 /dev/sdb1            244136352  34068352 210068000  14% /media/wd09:12
ax1sand what happens when you umount /media/wd09:12
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ax1sun mount it and try it manually first09:13
bgt421just tried it. remounted and there's still nothing09:13
ax1sha09:13
ax1swhat about if you09:13
ax1soh wait09:13
ax1si got it09:13
ax1ssec to figure params out09:13
bgt421k09:14
fkmWhy does Kubuntu use SSDP if it is expired? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Service_Discovery_Protocol09:14
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ax1s chown -hR user /media/wd09:14
ax1swill change ownership of the files on the drive09:15
ax1srecursive09:15
bgt421oh... I forgot about that :)09:15
ax1s*guess09:15
ax1sif you just prepped the drive09:15
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ax1ssylenze: is it there now?09:15
sylenzeax1s: i was on the toilet09:16
ax1slol09:16
sylenze"it" WAS there09:16
ax1seww09:16
sylenzelol09:16
sylenzeax1s: but pnat isn't there09:16
ScorpKingstop that! lol09:16
sylenzebut adept didn't work09:16
ax1ssylenze: did you restart x-window system ?09:16
ax1soh09:17
sylenzeax1s no09:17
sylenzeax1s: but i pressed on restart09:17
bgt421ax1s: I'm getting a bunch of "operation not permitted". One for I guess every file on the drive. I did use sudo09:17
ax1sbgt421: sudo chown09:17
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ax1shehe09:17
sylenzelets make an error rally - who will be the winner, winxp or linux?09:17
ax1sforgot the sudo part09:17
sylenzelol!09:17
sylenzei hate sudo09:17
ax1syou can sudo su09:17
ax1sto login as root09:18
ax1sand not have to do it everytime09:18
bgt421ax1s: I used sudo09:18
sylenzeor sudo -i09:18
bgt421or should I use su09:18
ax1sno it should have worked09:18
ax1shrm09:18
ax1sis it an external drive09:19
ax1swhat was the exact error09:19
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RytmenPinnenmay I ask why pidgin isnt in the repositories?09:19
sylenzebill gate's new OS is kubuntu, he's errorphile09:20
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bgt421ok this is freaking wierd. After the chown mess in shell tab 3, I can see all my files in /media/wd . In shell tab 2, I got nothing09:20
sylenzeRytmenPinnen: it's called GAIM09:20
RytmenPinnenhasnt it changed name?09:20
ax1sbgt421: messed09:20
sylenzeRytmenPinnen: if you want pidgin then i can help you09:20
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llutzRytmenPinnen: they change  gaim into pidgin after feisty-release09:20
ax1sbgt421: oh you have root access on one of the terminals?09:20
sylenzeIlutz: no09:20
Savakit's called Pidgin sylenze09:20
bgt421ax1s: no, but i did use sudo before chown in shell309:21
bgt421h/o09:21
sylenzewait please09:21
RytmenPinnenaha ok then :), gaim 1.2 just seems kind of outdated but I can live with it09:21
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sylenzepidgin isn't precompiled for kubuntu09:21
ax1sbgt421: close all shells down and use 1 for now haha09:21
sylenzeyou have to make sudo apt-get build-dep gaim09:21
sylenzeand NOT pidgin, it isn't pidgin09:21
llutzRytmenPinnen: theres a pidgin .deb on getdeb.net09:21
sylenzethen "make"09:21
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sylenzeand "sudo make install"09:21
RytmenPinnenbtw, will I be able to update to 7.10 over then net?09:21
Savakjust use the tarball09:21
bgt421hehe ok. that's wierd. in shell 2 I just used sudo su. as root it sees nothing on the drive09:22
RytmenPinnenah, I'll look into that09:22
Savakor bz209:22
bgt421I;m going to close and restart terminal09:22
bgt421ok, it's all there now.09:22
ax1shehe09:22
ax1sthat's wacky bg09:22
RytmenPinnenllutz thanks for that site btw, been looking for a .deb equilant to rpmfind09:23
bgt421Thanks, ax1s. Is there a good reason for what happened, or is that just a bug?09:23
ax1sbgt421: if there is a reason, i couldn't tell ya09:23
sylenzeax1s: damn, still isn't working09:23
ax1ssylenze: after restarting x?09:23
sylenzeax1s: who's x!!09:23
ax1sare you sure it's a GUI program?09:23
sylenzeax1s: no09:24
sylenzei'm not sure09:24
sylenzei think i could need an insurance09:24
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ax1ssylenze: I'm installing to check it out09:25
scheater5i'm having trouble getting a real-time kernel installed09:25
sylenzeax1s: ok it's dotGNU09:25
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FeudsterHello all09:27
FeudsterIs anyone here familiar with getting bbc radio09:27
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Savakit requires real player plugin... so no heh09:28
kcghiya, can you start two kaffeine windows, e.g. play two different videos at the same time?09:28
Feudsteri have installed real player for linux09:28
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sylenze...09:28
ax1sreplayer works fine09:28
Feudsterand the fire fox media extension09:28
ax1snot the one from the repos09:28
Savaktried it in the standalone player?09:29
ax1sget real player off the website and follow the installer09:29
Feudsteryup09:29
kcgFeudster, i can't quite remember the details but i think for bbc radio, you play it as standalone player09:29
kcgin real player09:29
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Feudsteri have tried that but no luck09:29
Feudsterit just causes me to loose my wired connection09:29
kcghow?09:29
Feudsteri have no idea how09:29
Feudsterbut when i run real player i loose network09:30
Savakyou using real player 1009:30
Feudsteryup09:30
kcgsorry mate, i have no idea of that situation09:30
Feudsterok09:30
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ax1si'm listening to bbc radio now09:30
ax1stook a while to click in09:31
ax1smplayer plugin09:31
Savakchecked out http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/audiohelp_nix.shtml ?09:31
spongebob_hello09:31
Feudsteryes have that09:31
Feudsterthx will have a look09:31
ax1sand when you click on the stream09:31
ax1sthere should be a link that says "use stand alone player"09:31
ax1sclick on that and let it buffer09:31
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Savakprobably some other plugin is handling audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin09:32
Savakinstructions on that link should help09:32
kcgcan anyone tell me how to play two videos together in kaffeine (diff. windows) pls?09:32
ax1skcg: i use gxine for that09:32
spongebob_i c my craph card detailes on xorg.conf but can not set to display parameters already installed ati driver (bin) i m understan w-hat happened09:32
ax1sspongebob_: wow you need about another 500 episodes of spongebob before i can understand you09:33
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ax1sand fuck this i'm out09:33
sylenzeax1s what's up09:33
peters_Is there a way to use kopete w/o having to put in the password every time?09:33
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spongebob_hmmm ok look externalthree.com/2.png09:34
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scheater5peters: i know in gaim there's a checkbox for "remember password," is there nothing similar in kopote?  For it to work for me on kubuntu with Gaim had to have the wallet open.09:35
peters_Kopete uses Kwallet, so you have to put in the root pass to open kwallet09:35
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peters_Dispite the fact that I have Kopete set to "Always allow" in kwallet, it still prompts everytime I open it.09:36
RytmenPinnenHi there ho there09:36
spongebob_hmmm ok look externalthree.com/2.png comment pls09:36
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waylandbillpeters_: you don't need the root password. You need the password you specified to access the wallet. It may seem like the root password if you used the same for both.09:37
peters_Yeah, you're right. I forgot about that.09:37
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peters_I don't want it to prompt for a pass though, how can I get rid of the password?09:38
waylandbillpeters_: and prompting for the password is similar to pgp signing. Your allowing it only allows it to use the wallet, not enter the wallet access password09:38
RytmenPinnendunno if you know but www.getdeb.net has ardour2.0.5.deb for ubuntu and its flavors09:38
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RytmenPinnendamn09:38
waylandbillyou simply remove the password from the wallet, but note the security risk inherit with doing so.09:38
RytmenPinnensry wrong chat :D09:38
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peters_how do I remove the password?09:39
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waylandbillgive an empty password. Click the wallet in the tray. Right click the desired wallet and select "Change Password" and use an empty one as the replacement.09:40
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peters_thank you waylandbill09:40
waylandbillpeters_: no problem.09:41
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dgahow do i exit kde? do i have to kill kdm?09:45
konradcan somebody help me with ndswrapper ?09:45
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Arwendga, um, K->Logout?09:46
waylandbilldga: ctrl-alt-backspace or /etc/init.d/kdm stop09:46
DexterFbackports09:47
DexterFdarn09:47
DexterF!backports09:47
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging09:47
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waylandbilldga: it all depends on how far you want to exit. Logout will end the session. Stopping kdm will stop the X server. Restarting kdm or C-A-B will restart X.09:47
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spongebob_why cant set my display parameters with displayconfig (printscreen stay on externalthree.com/2.png)09:48
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dorkfaceHow can I tell if my install is a 32 or 64-bit os09:48
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das6745hi all, who can help me in xhtml??09:49
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waylandbilldorkface: maybe /proc/version?09:50
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dorkfaceHmmm, it seems to just have the version09:51
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spongebob_!displayconfig09:51
DexterF!pinning09:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about displayconfig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:51
ubotupinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto09:51
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jhutchinsdorkface: uname -a09:52
dorkfacestill just gave version.  Would googling the version tell me?09:54
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DexterFhow do I pin backports?09:54
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Savakwhats the version dorkface?09:55
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fyrmedicCan anyone offer suggestions for flashing a bios. No DOS or windows on the computer and no BIOS memory as the battery was removed. UGGGHHH!!!09:56
dhqktorrent 2.2.2 is not there in repos09:56
waylandbilldorkface: are you trying to script something that depends on one or the other?09:56
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DexterFfyrmedic: BartPE or install DOS09:57
dorkfaceI want to use the SMP client for folding@home, and it requires a 64-bit version of linux09:57
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spongebob_foun a win 98 starting disk and paste in to cd ur bios updater and version09:57
majnoonhaving /etc/hosts problems with xfce :(09:58
waylandbilldorkface: did you do the install?09:58
dorkfacenot yet, I wanted to make sure I had a compatible OS first09:58
tazgodxis there a good how to i can read on how to install an FTP server?09:58
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waylandbill!ftpd09:58
ubotuFTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP09:58
Savakinstall will prob tell u ;)09:58
fyrmedicDexterF: So, you think that it will boot off of CD if I get a DOS boot CD built then flash from dos?09:58
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spongebob_majnoon u set 2 name to ur os09:59
waylandbilldorkface: you have the iso? it will say 64 in the filename if it is.09:59
DexterFfyrmedic: totally didnt understand that09:59
spongebob_check ur hostname maybe u have 2 name and different09:59
majnoonspongebob_: this my /etc/hosts 3 lines09:59
majnoon127.0.0.1 localhost majnoon09:59
majnoon127.0.1.1 majnoon09:59
majnoon192.168.1.101 majnoon09:59
Savakwhat's the output of uname -a dorkface?09:59
fyrmedicDexterF: The computer with no BIOS should boot off of CD if I have one built as a bootdisk?10:00
ScorpKingtazgodx: i use vsftp. it's pretty easy to install and configure.10:00
fyrmedicDexterF: evne with no BIOS?10:00
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majnooni added last line as a test10:00
Savakcan u get into bios fyrmedic?10:00
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fyrmedicNo10:00
majnoonspongebob_: you see that ??10:00
Savakeven if u reset bios by jumping the board?10:00
tazgodxthanks10:01
fyrmedicSavak: don't know how to do that10:01
waylandbillyes. uname -a is a good call. i686 would be 32 bit version10:01
DexterFfyrmedic: "no bios"? there's no such thing as "no bios" unless you flashed it to death10:01
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waylandbilland without the bios, the motherboard would fail to boot anyway.10:01
Savakso no bios means u get a black screen and nothing else on startup...? :P10:01
DexterFif even the bios is dead, youll need a new bios chip from the manufacturer or a new board10:02
fyrmedicSavak: yes10:02
Savaknew board time then10:02
Savakcan try jumping bios, need to locate the jumper on the board to hard-reset bios10:02
fyrmedicThat's nice. Two boards in 1 week.10:03
waylandbillprobably would be best to call the manufacturer10:03
dorkfaceSavak: "Linux l33t-fl33t 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 200 i686 GNU/Linux"10:03
Savakshould be a section in manual for hard reseting bios10:03
Savakyeah waylandbill was right, i686 means 32-bit version :P10:03
dorkfacedoh10:03
fyrmedicIt's a very old machine and I don't have any documentation from it anymore.10:04
waylandbillSavak: not always. Some manuals royally suck.10:04
spongebob_dont touch any bridge10:04
Savakotherwise you'd have ia64, x86_64 or something similar10:04
spongebob_i have 3 mainbord (no bios)10:04
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secleinteerhi, does anyone know how i can assign custom shortcuts in firefox?10:04
dorkfaceOh well, I'm going to reinstall it soon anyway, this is just a temp system so I can transfer backups to it10:04
Savakah, well removing the cmos battery has the same effect10:05
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andrew_can anyone help me with the java installation?10:05
Savakbut if you've done that and no luck.. think your doomed10:05
dorkfacesecleinteer10:05
dorkface: as in keyboard shortcuts?10:05
yamalspongebob_: your displayconfig problem is probably a bug. Run "systemsettings" from a console, reproduce the error, then close it and check the console for any error messages. Put the result on a pastebin please.10:05
secleinteerdorkface: yeah10:05
Biovoreandrew_: apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre10:05
waylandbillSavak: and shorting the leads of the bypass capacitor on the cmos circuit if you don't want to leave the battery out for weeks.10:05
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Savakgood call waylandbill :P10:06
secleinteerdorkface: you know how to do that?10:06
dorkfaceIn your system settings, there should be a keyboad and mouse icon.  In there, there is a keyboard shortcuts icon, in there, you can do what you wish :)10:06
andrew_I already have that...10:06
waylandbillSavak: electronics major. I know all about that stuff. :-)10:07
Savakbeats my kids electronics set lol10:07
dorkfacesecleinteer: If I may suggest, the windows key is perfect for this, since it won't be bound for ANYTHING else10:07
secleinteerdorkface: well, i'm using the 'doze key for opening the kmenu10:08
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andrew_I need Jre 1.5 or greater to run frostwire.....10:08
dorkfacenm then :)10:08
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andrew_how do I get about that?10:08
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secleinteerdorkface: the main thing i'm interested in doing is assigning shift-tab to moving back a tab in firefox10:08
secleinteerlike i have in all my kde apps10:08
Savakandrew_ jre6 will work fine10:08
evri2Guys,i try to install gutsy kopete in order to use my webcam(i think that would support v4l2 but it doesn't).Now my system settings screwed up.How can i rebuild it? http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/8164/snapshoat1dn9.jpg10:08
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secleinteerdorkface: but idk if you can do that in a non-kde app, like firefox10:08
andrew_lemmie try it again....10:08
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waylandbillSavak: the funny thing is I work in RF heat sealing, not the electronics field anymore.10:10
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Savakits rare people do jobs that suit them anymore :P10:11
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waylandbillSavak: so true.10:12
waylandbillstill doing better than fast food so not too bad. lol10:12
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Savaklol I somehow came in charge of a datacentre's network beginning of the year10:13
Savakonly just got ccna :P10:13
dorkfacewow10:13
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dorkfaceDoes kubuntu have a default cd burning utility?10:15
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llutzk3b10:15
dorkfacedoh10:15
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dorkfaceShouldn't have missed that, hehe10:16
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waylandbilldorkface: my opinion is that k3b can blow the doors off of nero.10:17
ScorpKingevri2: is those duplicates from the other menus?10:17
waylandbillkudos to k3b's development team. It's good.10:17
dorkfaceI don't need anything special, I just wanted to burn the 64-bit version of kubuntu10:17
evri2ScorpKing: no.My system settings screwed up.Also kcontrol is empty now...10:18
waylandbilldorkface: this is probably a little late, but do you have a supported cpu?10:18
dorkfaceyep, q660010:18
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ScorpKingevri2: that suck! gimme a sec.10:18
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holycowhey guys10:19
stephen_hello10:19
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stephen_i need help with my wifi device please......10:19
holycowwhere do i change the theme for the loging screen (kdm i guess)?10:19
stephen_....i need to set it to accept ad-hoc connections10:19
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ScorpKingevri2: what happens if u create a second user? does the second user have the same problem?10:20
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ScorpKingholycow: in control centre10:21
evri2ScorpKing: i cannot test it now,because i removed a kde related package and all my kde apps are being uninstalled now10:21
evri2i tried to download gutsy's kopete and now all my system screwed up10:22
evri2when i try to uninstall it,all my kde related packages are being uninstalled now10:22
ScorpKingevri2: outch!10:22
evri2this is second time10:23
stephen_d--_--b10:23
evri2ScorpKing: i won't try to install anything from gutsy repos again (beside alsa because i need 1.0.14 )10:23
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ScorpKingevri2: use aptitude and read the list of things that will be changed next time. :-)10:24
dhqwhich is the best and fastest server for repos10:24
ScorpKingthe one in ur country i think10:24
dorkfaceIs there a settings and file trasfer equivalent in Kubuntu?10:24
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dhqScorpKing, my country servers always down10:25
ScorpKingdorkface: save everything in ur home directory including hidden files and dirs.10:25
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stephen_HELP10:26
stephen_pleas10:26
stephen_e10:26
stephen_someone :(10:26
ScorpKingjust wait...10:26
vesnolheyo10:26
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dhqtell me the fastest server country of repos where everything is updated10:30
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Savakstephen: iwconfig ethx mode Ad-Hoc ?10:30
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Savakwhere x is your card's id10:30
stephen_ok10:30
stephen_thank you10:30
stephen_im trying to get xlink kai to work on linux10:30
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stephen_i have the program running10:30
stephen_but i need to connect my wifi max to the psp10:31
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tazgodxis there a way i can set up vsftp to allow my useraccount full access to another user also?10:33
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holycowaha after update it work snow10:33
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Biovoretazgodx: I don't think so.. That break security..10:34
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holycowwhere do i change the 'type of login' gdm has capacity to customize login screens quite a lot, does kdm have the same facility?10:34
holycowi didn't see the ability to change anything more than a wallpaper in the admin utility10:34
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Biovoretazgodx: you could put the 2 users in the same group and then make the files all +770 and change the group on all the files to that new group..10:34
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tazgodxhaha, i just want write access on one folder on my mythtv box. but when i installed mythtv it added the username mythtv, and i don't know the password10:39
Biovoretazgodx: you can always set one :-P10:39
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Biovoretazgodx: or chmod +777 -R  to that one folder (read/write by everyone)10:40
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Biovoretazgodx: if you have anonymous ftp access disabled.. That means only authenticed people can modify the directory..10:41
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Biovoreattack of the zombies..10:42
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tazgodxhmmm, thanks, ill work on this a bit more10:43
holycowaha!10:44
holycowkdm themes10:44
holycowsweet now to figure out how to install some10:44
BiovoreoO10:44
Biovorewhat kind of themes10:44
Biovorecolor?10:44
holycowhttp://kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=4010:44
holycowdon't know10:44
holycowkdm themes it says10:44
holycowthe defaultone is not that appealing imho, not complaining just customizing10:45
Biovorehttp://kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=4010:45
BiovoreI modify my desktop up as well.. default colors suck..10:45
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Biovorebut be wear.. setting your backgrounds to black causes weirdness with konqueror and firefox..10:45
holycowi'm going to join up the kde4 art teams10:46
holycowi'd like to see some better variety in the default shipping packs10:46
holycowoh it does?10:46
enrygoodbye!10:46
holycowaha neato, good to know10:46
holycowthx10:46
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Biovoreholycow: Those are kdm themes (login screens)10:47
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tazgodxBiovore: i have a mythtv folder in /var/lib that i want access to on the ftp, still same way? chmod +777 -R?10:47
holycowthats what i'm talking about10:48
holycowkubuntus kdm default login is kinda boring10:48
Biovoretazgodx: probably want to not do that to /var/lib10:48
DaSkreechholycow: You just missed the competition10:48
holycowoh yeah? what competition? url?10:48
DaSkreechhttp://pd.ruphy.org I think10:49
Biovoreholycow: To install kdm themes I think there is a packages call kdm-theme-manager that will read those and setup the login screen theme10:49
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Biovoreholycow: apt-get install kdmtheme10:49
holycowaha!10:50
holycowdanke10:50
Biovoreholycow: I get to it via using kdesu kcontrol10:50
DaSkreechholycow: In anycase you want to join #kde-artists10:50
Biovorebut there is proabably a different way..10:50
DaSkreechholycow: Unless you want to improve oxygen specifically then it's #oxygen10:51
holycow*nod* k10:51
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holycowlol now where did the menu item for kdm theme manager go10:52
holycowhehe10:52
DaSkreechholycow: set them to auto join :)10:52
holycowdone10:53
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acemofor a nvidia geforce2 would the opensource drivers or the nvidia drivers be adviced?10:54
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holycowBiovore: ohhhhhh haha, there it is10:55
holycowdamnit i would of never found that my self10:55
holycowdanke kindly10:55
Biovoreyeah.. I don't know if they every added it the default system config thing..  kinda of a glitch imo.10:56
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Biovoreholycow: that program dosn't work on gusty though..10:59
holycowyeah i'm running that, it successfully change the kdm theme here10:59
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holycoweven though it says something about override11:00
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Biovoreholycow: hmm..  I had to go into /etc/default/kdm.rc/ and delete the 20_kubuntu_defaults file11:01
holycowit must be a bug11:01
holycow:)11:01
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fyrmedicDoes anyone know of a package that I can use to recover data from a windows partition that is bad and transfer it to another drive?11:02
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Savaktried Knoppix?11:03
ScorpKingdd_rescue11:04
DaSkreechfyrmedic: dd11:04
DaSkreech-rescue11:04
DaSkreechdamn11:04
DaSkreech_rescue11:04
DaSkreechstupid awkward shift key11:04
Savakgood thing you got two of em ;) lol11:05
Biovoreroflz11:05
fyrmedicI was just reading about that dd_rescue.11:05
ScorpKingfyrmedic: dd_rescue wont get the broken drive too hot. make sure u dont stop it once it's started. the drive will get worse every time u run dd or dd_rescue on it.11:05
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fyrmedicWill it clone the drive? or will it just copy to a new location?11:06
holycowBiovore: i really like the true nature kdm theme11:06
holycowsweet, thanks for  the heads up on all of htis11:07
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Savak.... and possible girls11:07
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tazgodxok, so does anyone know if its possible to set up a FTP server on my home mythtv box that will give me access to write to "/var/lib/mythtv", i just want to be able to send movies and music straight to my mythtv box over FTP11:13
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DaSkreechShort aswer is yes11:14
DaSkreechanswer11:14
tazgodxsweet, how about a long ansewr now :)11:14
tazgodxanswer11:14
ScorpKingtazgodx: i use vsftpd.11:14
tazgodxi have vsftpd set up11:14
redfiveok, why am I not getting blurr window boarders using emerarld with compiz fuzion?11:14
tazgodxbut when i log on i have to use my username and pass, and it only give me access to "/home/username/"11:15
DaSkreechThough if you have ssh alredy running it's probably easier just to do that11:15
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GoodHabitHello. At kernels update /boot/grub/menu.lst updates too. But writing wrong root directory! Where I can find that settings?11:16
tazgodxi can transfer files with SSSH?11:16
tazgodxSSH11:16
llutzGoodHabit: /boot/grub/menu.lst11:16
ScorpKingtazgodx: yes. use scp11:17
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llutztazgodx: or sftp11:17
GoodHabitNo,11:17
GoodHabitA mean where i can fix it?11:17
llutzGoodHabit: /boot/grub/menu.lst11:17
GoodHabit^))11:17
GoodHabitSry.11:17
GoodHabitI have some trobles with english11:17
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GoodHabitThy to understand - updating - autoediting wrong - i wanna fix for: updating - autoediting right.11:18
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stephen_hmmm11:18
ScorpKingtazgodx: in /etc/vsftpd.conf set option anonymous_enable=YES11:19
stephen_whats the mode opposite to ad-hoc?11:19
DaSkreechGoodHabit: What is your main language?11:19
llutzstephen_: managed11:19
stephen_ty11:19
GoodHabitDaSkreech: At my main language channel I asked before, TY.11:19
ScorpKingtazgodx: and anon_upload_enable=YES11:19
GoodHabitSo I'll try to rephrase it.11:20
DaSkreechGoodHabit: ok :)11:20
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GoodHabitAutomatic grub updater in ubuntu is updating grub wrong. Where I can find settings for automatic grub updater in ubuntu?11:20
GoodHabitIs it ok?11:21
GoodHabit)11:21
GoodHabitBecause i wanna that updater working right.11:21
llutzGoodHabit: plz paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst   to pastebin11:22
llutz!pastebin | GoodHabit11:22
ubotuGoodHabit: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)11:22
ScorpKingtazgodx: and anon_mkdir_write_enable=YES11:22
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tazgodxhmm, now i get "500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable anonymous root"11:23
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ScorpKingtazgodx: haha. gimme a sec. anonymous not enabled on mine.11:23
GoodHabitllutz: I can configure it myself. And i does it. But I want to grub-updater will workin fine. Whatever my grub - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36098/11:24
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DaSkreechGoodHabit: You edited your grub manually?11:25
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GoodHabitDaSkreech: Yes.11:25
llutzGoodHabit: whats wrong with it? check line 72 (# kopt) for root-fs11:25
llutzGoodHabit: and line 80 too11:25
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ScorpKingtazgodx: this is getting complicated. have u tried man vsftpd.conf?11:26
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tazgodxhaha, tried what?11:26
GoodHabitllutz: So by editing them grub-configurator will be work fine next time?11:26
ScorpKingtazgodx: man vsftpd.conf?11:26
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NDPTAL85Is Beryl native by default yet?11:27
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llutzGoodHabit: thats the setting it uses, yes. i told you 3 time11:27
llutzs11:27
NDPTAL85Or installed by default I mean11:27
DaSkreechNDPTAL85: No11:27
tazgodxwell, i don't know what that is, so i guess i didn't do that11:27
DaSkreechno where near stable enough11:27
ScorpKingtazgodx: haha. all the options is in there.:-)11:28
NDPTAL85DaSkreech: Do you think it will be by the time October roll around?11:28
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majnoonme bored (so installing exploder)11:28
DaSkreechNDPTAL85: no but it's a pointless argument :)11:28
DaSkreechif you want it install it11:28
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DaSkreechIf you just want the cube I think there is a button for that by default11:28
DaSkreechoff by default11:29
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NDPTAL85I already have installed it11:29
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lamperlhi11:29
NDPTAL85But I'm thinking of re-installing my Kubuntu install from scratch11:29
majnoon<<having less trouble with kde4 then xfce11:29
NDPTAL85I've upgraded it from an 6.10 to 7.06 and not everything went right.11:29
GoodHabitllutz: It is just because i was thinking what commented lines are ignored by grub...11:29
Savak[afk] grrr, remind me how to kill ghosts :P11:30
NDPTAL85Or 6.06 to 7.04 rather11:30
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llutzGoodHabit: have you ever tried to read the comments in that file?11:30
lamperlsomeone knows how to get winamp style (gauss) visualization for amarok?11:30
DaSkreechNDPTAL85: #ubuntu-effects is here to ease you through the pain. It's not that bad11:30
majnoongnome wasn't working before but nnow it is11:30
stephen_hi ppl....i have finally been able to detect my psp on an ad-hoc wireless connection. however, i need to make the ethernet be used for the internet and the wireless adapter for my ad-hoc connection11:30
stephen_any tips?11:30
drif_Savak[afk] : ghosts, on mars or maybe irc? :D11:30
majnoonxfce not working still11:30
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stephen_type /msg nickserv ghost (username) (password)11:31
Savak_and if the nick is unregistered? :P11:31
redfive!compiz11:31
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:31
majnoonit a  <insert favorite BAD words here> /etc/hosts problem11:31
ScorpKinglol11:32
stephen_is that compiz for me?11:32
vesnolhow can i install a ati driver on kubuntu 7.10?11:32
stephen_you cant kill a nick that isnt regged11:33
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Savak_Thought so :(11:33
majnooni do that for couple reasons  #1 less likely to get kicked #2 also included non-native english speakers to have fun too11:33
Savak_It'll die eventually ;)11:33
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SlimGWhen will openoffice be replaced by koffice out-of-box in Kubuntu?11:33
majnoonlike then ??11:33
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vers__how do you run a game that u just installed if its not on the kmenu?11:34
ScorpKingyes11:34
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stephen_vers_ what game is it?11:34
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vers__amphetamine? i think...11:34
vers__im just tryin to figure this out11:34
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vers__DLing games and apps11:35
vers__and stuff11:35
SlimGvers__: Alt+F2 -> write: amphetamine -> press Enter11:35
vers__thanks11:35
majnoonkappfinder ??11:35
bgt421does anyone know how I can tell what version of KDE i'm running?11:35
vers__could not run the specified command11:35
vers__????11:36
llutzkde-config -v11:36
ScorpKinghelp > about11:36
bgt421thanks!11:36
vers__SlimG: u there?11:36
majnooni think i have ALL the WM's on this box11:36
majnoononly one no working is xfce11:36
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majnooni'm in gnome now11:37
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SlimGvers: write: amph instead of amphetamine11:37
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vesnoldoes anyone know how i can install the ati driver on kubuntu?11:38
versha...thanks11:38
majnoontrying to figure out how to get multiple destops in kde4 though11:38
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SlimGWhen will openoffice be replaced by koffice out-of-box in Kubuntu?11:38
majnoonvesnol: try installing envy11:38
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majnoon!envy11:38
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!11:38
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majnoonworked good for me11:39
verswow....that game is horrible11:39
DaSkreech!ati | vensol11:39
ubotuvensol: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:39
DaSkreech!ati | vesnol11:39
ubotuvesnol: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:39
DaSkreechSlimG: When Koffice is up to snuff11:40
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Savakwhats the default firewall setup in Kubuntu11:40
DaSkreechbgt421: under any Kapp go help -> about KDE11:40
SlimeyPeteit's open by default, Savak11:40
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DaSkreechmajnoon: Ratpoison?11:40
Savakcant seem to find any settings\interface for it11:40
majnoonthink so11:41
llutzSavak: there aren't any11:41
DaSkreech!firewall11:41
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).11:41
GoodHabitllutz: No, but I will, ty.11:41
SlimeyPetethere isn't one AFAIK. You could install firestarter or use iptables from the commandline11:41
majnoonme want xfce to work though11:41
Savakah ha :)11:41
majnoonit bitches about /etc/hosts11:41
llutzmajnoon: whats wrong with your hosts?11:42
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majnoonnot sure11:42
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SlimGDaSkreech: imho openoffice is terribly slow (loading) and is poorly integrated into the kde environment, what's left to work on at koffice to finally be able to replace openoffice?11:42
majnoonllutz: i'll put it here just 3 lines11:42
DaSkreechSlimG: .doc compatibilty11:42
majnoon127.0.0.1 localhost majnoon11:43
majnoon127.0.1.1 majnoon11:43
majnoon192.168.1.101 majnoon11:43
majnoonthat it11:43
anthronautSlimG: Haven't used an office environment for months..11:43
vershow about 3ddesktop?11:44
llutzmajnoon: 1 hostname with 3 ips....11:44
majnooni tried the last one as an experiment11:44
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majnoonand ubuntu site said put first two11:44
versive installed but i cant find it11:45
easytiger_homemy intel pro wireless worked on fiesty beta release cd i had kicking around. however it doesn't work on the feisty release11:45
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llutzmajnoon: strange, i never used it that way. just " 127.0.0.1 localhost ,  192.168.1.101 majnoon"11:45
easytiger_homeand is driving me crazy11:46
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majnoonis there a gnome or kde wrapper for changing that ??11:46
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DaSkreechhi AmyRose11:48
SlimGDaSkreech: Do you think OOo will be replaced by koffice in time for Kubuntu 8.04 ?11:48
DaSkreechNope but it's a small matter11:48
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DaSkreech just install koffice and make it the default11:48
DaSkreech !default11:48
ubotuTo change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"11:48
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easytiger_home!wpa11:50
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:50
Savakok guarddog is mean :P11:50
lzfyHi all11:51
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mikkoanyone got a moment to help out a nubbin? :o11:51
SlimGDaSkreech: I'm not having any problems with file associations, just looking forward to a Kubuntu release without OOo (/me Really dislikes it in favour of koffice)11:51
SlimGDaSkreech: Thank you for your help11:52
nicolai_!ask | mikko11:52
ubotumikko: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:52
SavakIs it normal to use guarddog's built in zones?11:52
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DaSkreechSlimG: jump into #kubuntu-devel and #koffice11:53
DaSkreechSee what you can do to help11:53
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BiovoreI have noticed that UT2K4 + Gusty == OMG HAX :-)11:53
mikkodoes any installable version of pidgin exist yet?11:53
llutzmikko: there's a.deb on getdeb.net11:53
mikkooh11:53
BiovoreI don't know if they have  made a .deb for the repos yet..11:53
DaSkreech!info pidgin gutsy11:54
ubotupidgin: graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.1.1-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 572 kB, installed size 1644 kB11:54
SlimGDaSkreech: I'm not a programmer11:54
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DaSkreechSlimG: Don't have to be11:54
Arwenanyone here used git before? maybe I'm stupid, but how do you checkout a copy of the source?11:54
DaSkreechRaising awareness helps a lot11:54
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DaSkreechorganizing a list of things to be done helps a lot11:54
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SlimGDaSkreech: hmm.. good point11:54
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sFEARshello11:55
[Admin] guys, I just have a quick question.... what's the name of the tool to change the boot menu order... because now I have Windows as default OS on this machine.11:55
Savakgrub?11:56
sFEARsi have a question that has a little something to do with that11:56
Savakusually /boot/grub/menu.lst if I remember11:56
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[Admin] ah just a file to edit then...11:56
ScorpKing[Admin] : edit /boot/grub/menu.list11:56
nicolai_Savak: yep, you remember11:56
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sFEARsi just installed kubuntu onto my windows drive.. last time i did that it automatically gave me a dual boot menu. This time it didn't. Kubuntu is installed, but i have no way to boot it. Any suggestions?11:57
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Savakif your talking about linux boot loader11:57
Savakotherwise it's boot.ini in Windows, which can be done in msconfig11:57
sFEARscan i load kubuntu from boot.ini11:57
sFEARs?11:57
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Savakyes but it's complicated, best to use grub11:57
sFEARsi'm kinda new at the whole linux thing11:58
[Admin] Error: no write permission for file "/boot/grub/menu.list"11:58
[Admin] lol..11:58
sFEARsi know what grub is.. but i'm not sure how to configure it11:58
[Admin] almost as bitchy as windows11:58
ScorpKingdont think he has got grub installed on the mbr11:58
Sanne[Admin] : kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst11:58
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ScorpKingsoz11:58
nicolai_[Admin] : right click on the file and select edit as root or kdesu as posted above11:58
sFEARsi can't get to linux to edit11:58
Savakna bitchy is when it can't find the file, Linux is just being careful ;)11:58
sFEARsit boots right to windows11:58
vershow do i run 3ddesktop11:59
[Admin] :P11:59
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[Admin] careful.. thats what theyve tried with vista then :P11:59
ScorpKingthought so11:59
[Admin] careful turned out to be messy11:59
Savaklol yeah, UAC vs sudo... ummmm think sudo is more to the point ;)11:59
DaSkreech!grub | sFEARs11:59
ubotusFEARs: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto11:59
sFEARsi guess i could use the live cd to boot into linux & configure from there12:00
sFEARs!grub12:00
SavakWindows should always be installed first, then Linux12:00
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[Admin] I'm starting to like this os more and more.. don't ruin that feeling for me... I'm quite new to that :D12:01
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SavakI love kubuntu, then again, I've always loved Linux since SuSE 6.2 :P12:02
[Admin] but just in case..12:02
ScorpKing[Admin] : it takes some time to get use to. don't give up. :-D haha12:02
Savaklol yeah12:02
versyeah12:02
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[Admin] i edited the lst file, and moved the last option to the front of the list.. that's ok right...12:02
[Admin] logically it is.. but is it12:03
SavakI think somewhere it needs the default option12:03
DaSkreech[Admin] : no12:03
Sanne[Admin] : there's a default option at the beginning of the menu.lst file12:03
DaSkreech[Admin] : The order only shows up where they turn up in the menu12:03
ichthudionHello all12:03
DaSkreech[Admin] : look for a line that starts as default followed by a number12:03
ScorpKingwont it be better to use save default?12:03
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DaSkreech the number is the line that will be booted into by default12:04
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DaSkreechYou are going to count the lines that say title12:04
DaSkreechand start with the number 012:04
ichthudionI just made the switch from openSUSE to Kubuntu. I was wondering how Kubuntu will hold up as a development machine12:04
DaSkreechso the first line that says title is line 0 the second is line 1 etc12:04
sFEARshow would i enable grub instead of boot.ini12:04
DaSkreech!b-e | ichthudion12:04
ubotuichthudion: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)12:04
joey_can someone help me im on an Asus G1S and bluetooth quit working it worked a while ago but now it just quit and i havent done anything that i can think of12:05
DaSkreechsFEARs: it's in the link ubotu sent you12:05
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DaSkreech!grub > sFEARs12:05
Savak0 is the default if it's not used anyway12:05
sFEARsi didn't know i got a link12:05
sFEARsahh.. there it is12:05
sFEARsthanks12:05
ichthudionI never realized how many dependencies my software really had until I switched over to Kubuntu12:07
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vesnolhey ati driver works thanks12:07
ichthudionAnother thing, how can I enable the root account12:08
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ScorpKingnot a good idea.12:08
Sanne!root | ichthudion12:08
ubotuichthudion: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo12:08
[Admin] ok, changed the 0 into the 512:08
[Admin] reboot :P12:08
javaJakeHey guys. Would you mind answering a question about Kubuntu (before I try it out).12:08
javaJake?12:08
javaJakeI really want to go KDE12:09
javaJakeBut how good is Kubuntu?12:09
ScorpKinggreat12:09
ichthudionScorpKing, in my position it is a good thing. During my development I tend to mess things up and need root to go back and fux it12:09
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nicolai_Good enough to try.12:09
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javaJakeLast I tried it didn't have make on the CD - an absolute must for getting latest (needed) ndiswrapper up and going. :|12:09
ScorpKingichthudion: use sudo instead.12:09
javaJakeI mean, what OS can survive without make of all software? :P12:09
nicolai_javaJake: you shouldn't need ndiswrapper anymore.12:09
javaJakeAnway, does it come on the CD?12:10
javaJakeFor bcm43xx? Yep12:10
javaJake:)12:10
javaJakeThat's still in beta and highly unstable12:10
ichthudionScorpKing, I use sudo for every day tasks. But I would feel better being able to su if the need be12:10
nicolai_javaJake: i didn't :p12:10
javaJakeAnd restricted to 11 MB/s AFAIK12:10
ScorpKingichthudion: if u stil want a root password then: sudo su12:10
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ScorpKingichthudion: passwd12:10
javaJakeichthudion, no no no12:10
javaJakeichthudion, sudo is more secure. Simple as that12:10
ScorpKingi agree12:11
javaJakeichthudion, with sudo, you can set up different users so taht they can only, say, manage the network.12:11
javaJakeichthudion, sudo also makes you THINK before you DO.12:11
javaJakeichthudion, with su, you don't think.12:11
javaJakeYou don't have to12:11
ichthudionSo you are saying that if someone gets my account password and logs in, them being able to sudo is more secure than disabling sudo and having to have a root password?12:11
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vershat is a 3d desktop switcher12:11
javaJakeichthudion, your su password is about as secure as your normal one. :)12:11
llutzichthudion: thats the way they think12:11
verswhat*12:11
ichthudionvers: beryl has one12:12
DaSkreechScorpKing: it is a good idea as long as he understands the risks12:12
vershow do i run it12:12
sFEARslet me try it out. thanks again12:12
versor get it to work12:12
DaSkreechjavaJake: Much better12:12
javaJakeichthudion, if you make a good enough password, no one will be able to crack it unless there's a hole in Linux, in which case no password is safe.12:12
ichthudionI have been on Linux for 8 years. This whole no root is irritating12:12
javaJakeichthudion, precisely!!!12:12
DaSkreech!b-e | javaJake12:12
ubotujavaJake: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)12:12
javaJakeIt's irritating, because doing root things should be irritating to you in the first place!12:13
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ichthudionvers: Beryl can be a pain, I'm not sure how to use it on Ubuntu but I know on Fedora and openSUSE it was complicated12:13
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nicolai_javaJake: you could try installing bcm43xx-fwcutter if you need to make broadcomm wireless work.12:13
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javaJakenicolai_, I did all that in Dapper days.12:13
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javaJakeThen I tried ndiswrapper. Whew, was that a breath of fresh air12:13
DaSkreechichthudion: The idea is that a remote hacker KNOWS that you have a root account and that's what they try to hack. If you disable root they first have to figure out which acount is your main account then try hack that12:13
tobias_!vers | compiz-fusion12:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:14
tobias_!compiz-fusion | vers12:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compiz-fusion - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:14
javaJake!compiz | vers12:14
ubotuvers: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:14
ScorpKinglol12:14
javaJake:)12:14
tobias_mkay12:14
DaSkreechVirtuoS: could you stop that please12:14
SanneVirtuoS: can you stop those notifications, please?12:14
verswow..thanks12:14
javaJakeichthudion, here's the deal: everything bad about "sudo" is actually a good thing, except perhaps maybe the same-password-as-normal-account deal (which isn't a problem anyway, or Ubuntu wouldn't be using it as default. Ubuntu devs aren't dumb.)12:14
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javaJakeichthudion, sudo is an upgrade through and through12:15
tazgodxanyone know how i can set up vsftpd to have access to "/var/lib/mythtv"? i have been trying everything, nothing is working12:15
ichthudionExcept if I need to sudo an X app I can't12:15
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javaJakeichthudion, stick with sudo as long as you can!12:15
javaJakeichthudion, huh? I don't understand12:15
DaSkreech!kdesu | ichthudion12:15
ubotuichthudion: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo12:15
nicolai_ichthudion: just use kdesu12:15
ichthudionI know of kdesu12:15
ScorpKingtazgodx: ur back. let me check...:)12:16
danielroninhow would someone add an app, like superkaramba, to start with a new session in fiesty?12:16
javaJakeichthudion, what did you mean?12:16
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ichthudionBlah, it is just different, I'm opposed to change12:16
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javaJakeichthudion, :)12:16
ichthudionI like one method across all of my platforms12:16
winterso .. again12:16
javaJakeichthudion, np, it confused me at first, and bugged me too12:16
ichthudionI have no sudo on Solaris12:16
winterhow can i add some programs to autostart ?12:16
tazgodxthanks ScorpKing12:17
javaJakeichthudion, well... that's also good. That gives you a second to think "wait a minute". :)12:17
javaJakeAnyway, I'll stop now.12:17
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ScorpKingtazgodx: np. might be a little while.12:17
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martijn81does enyone know an KDE-alternative for cssedit?12:17
tazgodxill be here for a while, im done trying do figure it out alone12:17
ScorpKinglol12:18
martijn81http://macrabbit.com/cssedit/12:18
javaJakeSo, what's different about Kubuntu vs. Ubuntu? (If someone has a link, that'd be more appreciated.)12:18
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martijn81javaJake: one is KDE one is Gnome12:18
ScorpKingjavaJake: check out screenshots on kubuntu.org and kde.org12:19
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javaJakeNo no12:19
javaJakeThere's differences aren't there?>12:20
javaJakeI mean, make is one...12:20
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javaJakeBut isn't Kubuntu different somehow...? I was almost sure there was... :)12:20
javaJakeWell, anyway, I'll try it12:20
ScorpKingit better :D haha12:20
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javaJakeEver since I installed Kopete on GNOME, and almost installed kedit (terminal within editor? NICE!) I've been considering an OS change.12:21
stephen_hmmm12:21
martijn81javaJake: just download and try the desktop-cd(live) and see for yourself. Only you can deside best.12:21
stephen_can i have two connections at the same time12:21
danielroninhow do you add an app to start with a new session in KDE?12:21
stephen_like ethernet and wifi12:21
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danielronini'm trying to make superkaramba start on login12:21
javaJakemartijn81, yea... *sigh*... time's limited, but I'll give it a go12:22
stephen_i want to use the ethernet as a internet connection and the wifi adapter as an ad-hoc connection12:22
stephen_but Knetwork manager only lets you have one connection12:22
Biovorestephen_: simple solution.. don't use knetwork manager..  Thats what I do..12:23
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stephen_what alternative is there?12:23
BiovoreThe Command line..12:24
llutzstephen_: edit /etc/network/interfaces12:24
Biovore^ that always works.. :-)12:24
stephen_i need to have the connections at the same time12:24
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stephen_will that be possible?12:24
Biovoreyes12:24
stephen_ty12:24
stephen_i love you all12:24
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BiovoreThe GUI tools are ment for stupid simple things.. get more complex you have to go to the command line..12:24
stephen_hmmm12:25
stephen_what do i have to edit12:25
stephen_i dunno cos im new to linux12:25
ScorpKingtazgodx: try http://vsftpdrocks.org/faq/ and search google - vsftpd anonymous setup12:25
DaSkreech!autostart | danielronin12:25
ubotudanielronin: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.12:25
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ScorpKingtazgodx: i'm still looking. will let u know if i find something.12:26
tazgodxk12:26
DaSkreechjavajake: It's not so much an OS change as interface change12:27
DaSkreech with some new apps :012:27
DaSkreech:-)12:27
DaSkreechand a better community12:27
DaSkreech shhhhhhh!12:27
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lavacano201014how do i change display managers?12:27
lavacano201014i installed GNOME on Kubuntu and stayed with KDM, but now ive changed my mind12:28
DaSkreech!gdm12:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:28
lavacano201014!display managers12:28
DaSkreechlavacano201014: You can just install it I think it will ask you if you ant to switch it to the default12:28
lavacano201014i have already installed it12:29
tazgodxbefore you log in there is a setting to change desktop manager12:29
lavacano201014i just didnt want to use it until now12:29
lavacano201014there is?12:29
lavacano201014ill try that12:29
ScorpKingtazgodx: option - anon_root=/var/lib/mythtv12:29
tazgodxwhere does that go ScorpKing?12:29
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ScorpKingtazgodx: in /etc/vsftpd.conf12:30
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ScorpKingtazgodx: found it on http://linuxjournal.com/article/752012:31
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tazgodxSWEET!!! thanks :)12:31
CPrgmSwR2Hi, I can't get amarok to play mp3 files12:31
CPrgmSwR2it pops up with a button to install mp3 support but it then freezes up12:31
ScorpKingnp12:31
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peters_I'm trying to unrar an incomplete file. I'm using the command unrar e -kb <file> and it refuses to work. It extracts to about 50% then gives a CRC error, dispite the fact that I'm using the -kb switch.12:32
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ScorpKingCprgmSwR2: sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs12:32
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soccermike1337hello...12:33
tobias_hi there soccermike133712:34
soccermike1337i have a question about avant window navigator12:34
tobias_and that question is ?12:34
soccermike1337im running ubuntu by the way, but they seem to ignore me over there :P12:34
tobias_._.12:34
soccermike1337im sure they're just helping others.. anyway..12:35
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tazgodxhmmm, now i have access to the correct folder, but i can't upload now :(12:35
soccermike1337ok.. well i followed the install guide for ubuntu and when i got to the part where it asks me to type in "make" into the terminal, it wont work12:35
ScorpKingtazgodx: one sec..12:35
tobias_it tells you just to type "make" ? oO12:36
soccermike1337mhm12:36
soccermike1337http://awn.wetpaint.com/page/UbuntuFeistyHowTo12:36
soccermike1337its the third line of step 412:36
CPrgmSwR2ScorpKing: Thnx that worked12:36

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