[12:37] <sumguy231> bradsnet: Pardon me if I missed this, the nvidia-glx driver is installed but doesn't work?
[12:37] <bradsnet> But really I've tried at least 10 different xorg.confs at this point.
[12:37] <bradsnet> Yes sum.
[12:38] <bradsnet> At least, that was the first problem.... I guess.
[12:38] <klobster> bradsnet: what is the command you are using to install the driver?
[12:38] <bradsnet> well, the first time I did it I just did sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:38] <klobster> bradsnet: is it the same computer you are using now?
[12:38] <bradsnet> No.
[12:38] <klobster> good
[12:38] <sumguy231> Have you tried not selecting the 'glx' extension? Doing so will prevent you from using hardware acceleration, but if it works the problem lies somewhere in there, and you should still be able to load X with the nvidia drivers.
[12:39] <bradsnet> Well, nv works without hardware acceleration, but that's exactly why I want nvidia-glx.
[12:39] <klobster> what happened when you ran sudo apt blah blah
[12:39] <sumguy231> bradsnet: Yeah, I just wwant to know if it works mostly. What kind of card do you have?
[12:39] <bradsnet> Installs it just fine. Then I used the graphical interface in kubuntu to select the driver.
[12:39] <bradsnet> nvidia geforce 6800 go ultra
[12:40] <cprmpt> I gotta say guys, I'm impressed
[12:40] <klobster> bradsnet: you mean in system settings? yeah that is garbage, you need do it manually.
[12:40] <cprmpt> kubuntu has entirely replaced windows as my desktop OS
[12:40] <bradsnet> Then I rebooted, and came back to a flashing cursor, no video. I could get to the console with c+a+f1 at that point.
[12:40] <cprmpt> the only thing is that my video card drivers are not working properly...  but i dont really care to fix that right now
[12:40] <ScorpKing> nvidia geforce fx5200 gave me the same problem :(
[12:40] <bradsnet> Heh, mine either cpr... otherwise I love kubuntu.
[12:41] <bradsnet> So I checked the Xorg.0.log, and it had some jazz about libglx.so not being found, so I looked where it said it wasn't but it was there.
[12:41] <sumguy231> bradsnet: And is linux-restricted-modules-<the kernel you're using> installed?
[12:41] <bradsnet> No, I think one instruction thing I found made me remove that.
[12:42] <sumguy231> Which instruction thingy? I'm pretty sure you need the restricted modules to use the nvidia driver.
[12:42] <bradsnet> At that point I suspected my problem was this: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg-bugzilla-noise/2004-March/000109.html but I don't know enough to know if it is or not.
[12:43] <bradsnet> After I couldn't get it to work with nvidia-glx I tried to do it nvidia's way.
[12:43] <bradsnet> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490
[12:44] <bradsnet> it says "If you use Ubuntu, please also ensure that the linux-restricted-modules or linux-restricted-modules-common packages have been uninstalled. "
[12:44] <sumguy231> I guess I could see that, if you install Nvidia's binaries I guess the module it builds could conflict.
[12:45] <sumguy231> *with the one from the repository, I mean.
[12:45] <bradsnet> That's another confusing thing... conflicting instructions.
[12:45] <klobster> it doesn't sound like you installed the binaries, though
[12:45] <bradsnet> Installed the binaries?
[12:45] <sumguy231> Sorry, I gotta go. A lot.
[12:46] <bradsnet> Thanks anyhoo.
[12:46] <klobster> the proprietary drivers from nvidia
[12:47] <bradsnet> I downloaded NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run
[12:47] <bradsnet> and ran it.
[12:47] <bradsnet> A few times.
[12:47] <bradsnet> That's all it said to do.
[12:47] <klobster> what does it say when you run it?
[12:47] <bradsnet> Well, for the most part it runs fine.
[12:48] <bradsnet> Runs, compiles a kernel, reconfigures xorg.conf...
[12:48] <bradsnet> reboot, same flashing cursor, no video.
[12:48] <bradsnet> But the errors in Xorg.0.log keep changing.
[12:48] <bradsnet> Every time I do it that is.
[12:48] <klobster> what do they change to
[12:49] <bradsnet> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490
[12:49] <bradsnet> I followed those, and now there are no errors in it at all.
[12:49] <bradsnet> But I still have the exact same behavior.
[12:49] <bradsnet> Boots, flashing cursor, no video.
[12:50] <bradsnet> At several times during this I've changed back to the "nv" driver and it works fine every time.
[12:50] <klobster> what errors do you get with the nvidia driver?
[12:50] <bradsnet> Oh, and the card worked fine in windows.
[12:51] <bradsnet> In Xorg.0.log? With nvidia-glx? Almost exactly this: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg-bugzilla-noise/2004-March/000109.html
[12:52] <bradsnet> I mean, the only thing different about mine was slightly different directories but it looks like that was generated on a different distro.
[12:53] <BrightEyes`> hello.anyone to help me configure my tv card?
[12:53] <BrightEyes`> hello.anyone to help me configure my tv card? lspci gives 02:07.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)
[12:54] <bradsnet> Wish I could help.
[12:55] <bradsnet> oh, btw, klobster lspci does list my card.
[12:56] <aguitel> anybody helpme to change the look from my kubuntu ,i have shi.. video card
[12:58] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Need some help. I'm trying to get 3D working. Don't send me the bot response, as it didn't work. Anyway, I have a nVidia Geeforce 8300GS, but lspci shows "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0423 (rev a1)"
[12:58] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Anyone know what I can do to get it to recognize the card?
[01:00] <litm89> HOLA
[01:00] <litm89> necesito ayuda
[01:00] <litm89> can somebody help mee
[01:01] <bradsnet> I'm having an issue getting an nvidia card working as well...
[01:01] <bradsnet> Been working on it for a day and a half no with no progress.
[01:01] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> litm89: It's usually best to just ask your question. If someone knows, they'll respond.
[01:01] <bradsnet> Some regress infact.
[01:01] <litm89> thanks
[01:01] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> bradsnet: What card is it?
[01:02] <litm89>  i mount a har disk
[01:02] <litm89> and i cant umount it
[01:02] <bradsnet> 6800 go ultra
[01:02] <klobster> !es | litm89
[01:02] <litm89> its on the desk
[01:02] <ubotu> litm89: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:02] <litm89> it's name is "/"
[01:02] <litm89> thank you
[01:04] <lancos> I have kubuntu 7.06 64bit, I can i install and run a 32bit application?
[01:05] <konrad> hello
[01:06] <klobster> bradsnet: what kernel are you using?
[01:06] <konrad> sory ... i have a quest
[01:06] <U238Willy> !java
[01:06] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[01:06] <U238Willy> that's for me
[01:06] <U238Willy> ty
[01:06] <konrad> do u now where can i remove some apps from autostart ?
[01:07] <marek_> hello everybody
[01:07] <kcg> !apache2
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apache2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <bradsnet> klobster: Dunno.
[01:08] <reldruh> hi marek_
[01:08] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !lamp | kcg
[01:08] <ubotu> kcg: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:09] <klobster> bradsnet: run uname -r to find out
[01:09] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> O_O; looks like Envy might be my only solution for my video card problem.
[01:10] <kcg> WhtWolfTeraDyne, thx... but i've got a problem on enabling the php module for apache2
[01:10] <bradsnet> 1 sec, I'm going through those instructions.
[01:10] <klobster> also this looks simple enough
[01:10] <klobster> /msg bradsnet:
[01:10] <klobster>  Looking in the forums again (I'm not the only 8800GTS owner having trouble), I found these instructions:
[01:10] <klobster> 1. wget http://uk.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.11/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run
[01:10] <klobster> 2. sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run -x
[01:10] <klobster> 3. sudo cp -f NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libnvidia-wfb.so.100.14.11 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so
[01:10] <klobster> 4. startx
[01:11] <klobster> doh!, that was supposed toi send as private msg, sorry everyone
[01:11] <bradsnet> klobster: 2.6.20-16-generic
[01:11] <marek_> i love kubuntu
[01:12] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> XD The "msg" command doesn't like you, klobster
[01:12] <klobster> I know, wtf?
[01:13] <|TraX|> Hi, I updated my system and now x won't start giving me a module version mismatch error (this started today) (And my 8800gts was working just fine with the 100.14.11 driver before now)
[01:13] <klobster> bradsnet: since you already have the driver, just try steps 2, 3 4.  have you been stopping x before running htis?
[01:13] <|TraX|> Any ideas?
[01:14] <klobster> |TraX|: you need to reinstall the propreietary driver every time you update your kernel
[01:14] <|TraX|> That's what I figured
[01:14] <klobster> sorry
[01:15] <|TraX|> S'ok I did it a thousand times with 2 other distros before I tried kubuntu and got it to work
[01:15] <klobster> it's one of the hazards of running closed source drivers
[01:16] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> It's odd. Wolvix can see the card as an 8300GS in LiveCD mode, but Kubuntu can't see it even when installed.
[01:16] <marek_> it's a new world
[01:17] <konrad> help meee ! how can i control autostart ? :(
[01:17] <bradsnet> klobster: Sorry, already up to step 7... they seem like the might be helpful.... um, yes, I've been stopping x before running the install if that is what you mean, it won't do most things unless it is stopped.
[01:18] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> *sigh* I guess I'll just live without 3D, or use my Windows laptop for such things. I refuse to use envy. Too much breakage.
[01:18] <klobster> bradsnet: just checking.  didja see the steps above?  it's pretty much just the important part from the other link.
[01:18] <bradsnet> Yes, I definately did that.
[01:18] <|TraX|> klobster: I'm guessing I don't have to change my xorg.conf?
[01:19] <klobster> |TraX|: no, it shouldn't have changed since last time
[01:19] <klobster> |TraX|: you are essentially relinking the driver to the new kernel; you aren't actually updating the software.
[01:20] <bradsnet> Moment of truth...
[01:20] <klobster> WhtWolfTeraDyne: that card is too new, gutsy might see it, though
[01:20] <help-me> xorg.conf.fglrx-2 ,xorg.conf.fglrx-1, xorg.conf.fglrx-0 , xorg.conf.20070830233211 , i deleted my xorg.con file but my pc can open 1280x1100 32bit dept but i dont know which xorg.conf opening my pc icant set any parameters my graphic adapter functions on desktop...
[01:20] <bradsnet> Okay, it did something different. Not really better, but different. Now it gave me the kubuntu logo without the status bar for a few seconds before going to the flashing cursor...
[01:20] <bradsnet> yay
[01:21] <klobster> bradsnet: I need to see dmesg  before making any other suggestions.
[01:21] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> klobster: Ok. I'll just wait till Gutsy goes final, then.
[01:22] <help-me> ??
[01:22] <Phoenix_Fire> hello
[01:22] <klobster> help-me: I am not clear on your question
[01:22] <bradsnet> Now that nv isn't working either I REALLY don't know how to do that.
[01:22] <klobster> WhtWolfTeraDyne: that's what i am doing
[01:22] <Phoenix_Fire> what is the advantage when i configure a aplication in this style "./configure --prefix=/usr"
[01:22] <klobster> !hi | Phoenix_Fire
[01:22] <ubotu> Phoenix_Fire: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:23] <level1> Hi, I ran a wine game that resized my screen, and now systemsettings won't resize it back (it thinks its resizing it but its not)
[01:23] <Phoenix_Fire> should i use ./configure or ./configure --prefix=/usr to compile kaffein
[01:23] <level1> the game is no longer running?
[01:23] <klobster> Phoenix_Fire: it makes sure it links to /usr so that all users can access the app/
[01:23] <level1> !resolution
[01:23] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:24] <Phoenix_Fire> kobster, thx for your answear :)
[01:24] <klobster> ouf seems shy
[01:25] <bradsnet> klobster: For whatever reason I decided to re-run the nvidia script... that didn't change anything though...
[01:26] <klobster> did you copy that libwf.so file like the above suggesstion?
[01:26] <bradsnet> Yes.
[01:26] <klobster> :/
[01:26] <klobster> nv isn't working?
[01:26] <klobster> are you sure?
[01:27] <bradsnet> It's never complained about that in Xorg.0.log... so I don't think that's the issue. It complained about the symbolic link for libglx... so maybe if I could get it back to that point I could do the same thing to rebuild that link... but I have not been able to get there.
[01:27] <GuyFromHell> feh, how do i get grub to do the fancy "omg there's a windows partition" thing
[01:27] <bradsnet> I'm trying again with nv right now.
[01:27] <klobster> help-me: please re ask your question, I couldn't understand you.
[01:27] <GuyFromHell> the manual way doesn't seem to be liking me right now
[01:27] <bradsnet> Moment of truth...
[01:27] <bradsnet> Flashing cursor.
[01:27] <bradsnet> One of those steps broke nv.
[01:27] <bradsnet> From either what I sent you or what you sent me.
[01:28] <bradsnet> I really don't want to reinstall... I spent hours this morning installing and configuring software... :(
[01:28] <DrWilcock> how do i get my taskbar white on black like in windows
[01:28] <klobster> bradsnet: do you need the newest driver?  I have /NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run and it works perfect for my 6800
[01:29] <bradsnet> Well the instructions you sent me are for the one I have, which isn't that one, but I got it off of nvidia's website...
[01:30] <bradsnet> I'm a little fed up at this point with it. I might just switch to ubuntu... maybe this fix would actually work for it.
[01:30] <bradsnet> I would be glad to try that one, but at the moment don't know how I could even get it on my system...
[01:30] <bradsnet> Suppose I could boot with the livecd now that I think about it.
[01:31] <fignew> bradsnet, you're still trying to get it to work?
[01:32] <klobster> bradsnet: I am guessing the copying of that libwfb file is what is stopping it, althou it could be copmmenting out that  #install nvidia /sbin/lrm-video nvidia $CMDLINE_OPTS line
[01:32] <bradsnet> yeah, except now one of these instructions I followed made things even worse.
[01:32] <DrWilcock> does anyone know how to get my taskbar white on black like in windows
[01:32] <bradsnet> klobster: Who knows at this point...
[01:33] <bradsnet> I've done so much...
[01:33] <klobster> DrWilcock: did you try right clicking on the panel?
[01:33] <DrWilcock> i did try it
[01:33] <DrWilcock> i can get black on black
[01:33] <Ace2016> Hi all
[01:33] <DrWilcock> but not white on black
[01:33] <Ace2016> how do i run a java jar file?
[01:33] <DrWilcock> there is no choices for text color
[01:34] <klobster> bradsnet: you want me to email this older version to you?  it didn't have any issues when I ran it.
[01:34] <bradsnet> I dunno.
[01:34] <bradsnet> brad@bradsnet.net
[01:34] <bradsnet> I could try it, but I think the problem is deeper now.
[01:35] <klobster> bradsnet: ok, well mv /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so /usr/lib/xorg/modules/old.libwfb.so should get nv running again
[01:37] <bradsnet> Trying it.
[01:39] <bradsnet> No video, no flashing cursor.
[01:39] <Phoenix_Fire> ciao and have a nice day
[01:39] <bradsnet> Switching to tty1 and back I get the flashing cursor again.
[01:40] <bradsnet> No errors in Xorg.0.log
[01:40] <klobster> that's with nv in your Xorg.conf?
[01:40] <bradsnet> Yes.
[01:40] <bradsnet> I used dpkg-reconfigure to reconfigure it.
[01:41] <bradsnet> That has worked in the past.
[01:41] <klobster> ok, what about vim /etc/modprobe.d/lrm-video and taking the # out of the    #install nvidia /sbin/lrm-video nvidia $CMDLINE_OPTS line?
[01:41] <jhonyrod> anybody can help me?
[01:42] <bradsnet> Testing.
[01:43] <bradsnet> What is the question jhonyrod?
[01:43] <jhonyrod> i have a problem with audacity
[01:44] <bradsnet> klobster: Same, dead video.
[01:44] <bradsnet> I think I really hosed something.
[01:44] <bradsnet> :(
[01:44] <sea_4_ever> oh, wheres that guy that lost the taskbar thing?
[01:44] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> jhonyrod: Might want to be more specific.
[01:45] <sea_4_ever> ALT + F1.
[01:46] <bradsnet> At this point, I may just go back to windows.
[01:46] <bradsnet> Toss my kubuntu cd down an elevator shaft.
[01:46] <klobster> bradsnet: you can use grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf to tell me what driver is set in xorg
[01:46] <jhonyrod> do you know how can i get audacity working on linux cos i tried everything and its allways the same think, tried to configurate the audio settings and it didn't work, what should i do?
[01:47] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[01:47] <bradsnet> klobster: Well I just opened it in nano, it's nv
[01:47] <tekstacy> Where can I find a list of shortcuts and hotkeys for Kubuntu/kde?
[01:47] <jhonyrod> hey man i need some help
[01:48] <bradsnet> tekstacy: In the system configuration there is a keyboard panel, you can see what they are and customize them in there.
[01:48] <jhonyrod> bradsnet:
[01:48] <tekstacy> cool, thanks.
[01:48] <jhonyrod> did you read my messege
[01:49] <bradsnet> Yeah I dunno what to tell you.
[01:49] <jhonyrod> what?
[01:49] <bradsnet> I've been using kubuntu for 2 days and I'm ready to chuck it down a well so you are asking the wrong person.
[01:49] <jhonyrod> ok well no prob man
[01:49] <NickPresta> bradsnet, why? What
[01:49] <sea_4_ever> tekstacy : download tht little annoying AMOR thing, it tells you some every few minutes.
[01:49] <bradsnet> Good luck though.
[01:49] <NickPresta> bradsnet, What's the problem?
[01:50] <bradsnet> It's a long story, but basically I'm trying to get my video card working.
[01:50] <bradsnet> Yes, I tried installing the binary drivers.
[01:50] <sea_4_ever> bradsnet, do not chuck it, play Ktron!
[01:50] <NickPresta> bradsnet, which card do you have?
[01:50] <klobster> bradsnet: yeah, we reset the options we changed (except for installing the driver), so I am not sure why nv won't run
[01:50] <bradsnet> nvidia geforce 6800 go ultra.
[01:51] <tekstacy> :)  I saw that, it did look annoying, but I will try it.
[01:51] <NickPresta> bradsnet, is that in a Laptop?
[01:51] <bradsnet> At first nv worked and nvidia didn't, now neither work.
[01:51] <bradsnet> Yes.
[01:51] <bradsnet> I think my first problem was http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg-bugzilla-noise/2004-March/000109.html
[01:51] <bradsnet> But I can't even get that to happen again.
[01:51] <bradsnet> But those are the exact errors I had in Xorg.0.log
[01:51] <bradsnet> Now I have no errors.
[01:51] <bradsnet> But no video.
[01:51] <bradsnet> On any driver.
[01:52] <bradsnet> I did this:
[01:52] <bradsnet> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=514161
[01:52] <bradsnet> and this: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490
[01:52] <bradsnet> One of those two got me from nv working to nv not working.
[01:52] <klobster> bradsnet: hey what happens if you run startx at the prompt now (without doing anything else)
[01:52] <NickPresta> !nvidia
[01:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:53] <klobster> NickPresta: already been there
[01:53] <NickPresta> klobster, it was for my benefit, not for bradsnet's :)
[01:53] <klobster> heh
[01:53] <bradsnet> Yeah, already told him. :)
[01:53] <elite101> hello
[01:53] <NickPresta> it's been a while since I've had to install drivers. I'm looking at the steps again
[01:53] <klobster> bradsnet: what error do you get when you do startx?
[01:53] <bradsnet> uh, okay, well now it does fatal io error 104 on X server ":0.0" after - reqeusts with 0 events remaining.
[01:54] <bradsnet> er the - sould be a 0
[01:54] <jhonyrod> WhtWolfTeraDyne: ok my problem is that i can't record with audacity and i've been trying with the audio settigs+microphone config. and it isn't working yet, do you know what can i do?
[01:55] <bradsnet> Oh and my card worked fine on windows.
[01:55] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> jhonyrod: Unfortunately, I don't. I don't usually use Audacity under Linux. You might want to try asking in #audacity
[01:55] <bradsnet> And kubuntu was working fantastic with the nv driver... I just wanted to try out a game with wine... now it seems I'm stuck.
[01:55] <stoney1> hello gus :)
[01:55] <stoney1> guys
[01:56] <bradsnet> My ubuntu livecd seems to be booting alright.
[01:56] <gaius> is there some magic way to make .runs work in kubuntu ?
[01:56] <NickPresta> bradsnet, lets do a sanity check. Have you installed nvidia-glx? Did you do `sudo nvidia-xconfig`? What are the specific errors?
[01:56] <bradsnet> gaius: sudo sh blah.run has worked for me....
[01:57] <gaius> ./file.run should have worked
[01:57] <gaius> as root
[01:57] <bradsnet> Nick. I've done those, no errors when I did them.
[01:57] <gaius> so, does sudo work and not su?
[01:57] <NickPresta> bradsnet, would you mind posting your xorg.conf to a pastebin?
[01:57] <BluesKaj> !sudo
[01:57] <klobster> bradsnet: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should get you nv back running again
[01:57] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:57] <bradsnet> Dunno, but I know sudo works for me.
[01:57] <gaius> I know
[01:58] <gaius> but, I just used su
[01:58] <bradsnet> klobster: That's what I did.
[01:58] <gaius> and then I have root access without having to type sudo 58996978 times
[01:58] <bradsnet> sudo -i is the recommended way of doing that. Don't ask me why or what is different.
[01:58] <gaius> alright
[01:58] <gaius> I'm trying to install enemy-territory, for old time's sake
[01:59] <gaius> the sound won't work in gentoo :(
[01:59] <bradsnet> huh, my livecd locked up...
[01:59] <bradsnet> klobster: I did that and that is why it has nv now...
[02:00] <bradsnet> But it still doesn't work.
[02:00] <ctesibiusulpius> sigh
[02:00] <ctesibiusulpius> I think linux just hates me
[02:00] <bradsnet> Indeed.
[02:00] <bradsnet> I think nvidia hates me.
[02:00] <ctesibiusulpius> nvidia likes me
[02:00] <knoppix> im mmacking my grub but how do i get my kernel to /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-4-486 ?
[02:00] <klobster> bradsnet: I saw that, I am still trying to decipher why that would break it.
[02:01] <klobster> did the livecd really lock up?
[02:01] <NickPresta> bradsnet, check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=412797&postcount=6. Check the thread for more information.
[02:01] <bradsnet> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490
[02:01] <bradsnet> It could have been something from that.
[02:01] <klobster> where did that come from?
[02:01] <ctesibiusulpius> my kernel 2.6.22-7 has some weird issue with playing video files in kaffeine, so I'm forced to use 2.6.21-4 :(
[02:02] <bradsnet> Yeah I've done that NickPresta.
[02:02] <ctesibiusulpius> so, is this a "family" or however you word it channel?
[02:02] <bradsnet> klobster: I've posted that a few times now.
[02:02] <skkeeper> hey people
[02:02] <NickPresta> bradsnet, and you get no errors, etc? How strange. The card is supported and others have had it running successfully.
[02:02] <bradsnet> Okay, livecd working now, might have been dirty.
[02:02] <NickPresta> !hi | skkeeper
[02:02] <ubotu> skkeeper: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:02] <klobster> bradsnet: sorry, I meant when did you run that?
[02:02] <bradsnet> I know nick.
[02:03] <skkeeper> i have a problem with synaptic can anybody help me? im a totaly noob in linux
[02:03] <NickPresta> ctesibiusulpius, yes, this is a "family" channel.
[02:03] <bradsnet> klobster: Right before I ran the ones you sent me.
[02:03] <NickPresta> !ask | skkeeper
[02:03] <ubotu> skkeeper: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:03] <ctesibiusulpius> I figured so
[02:03] <ctesibiusulpius> I'll keep it clean
[02:03] <skkeeper> lol
[02:03] <skkeeper> ok
[02:03] <ctesibiusulpius> is there a kubuntu-amd64 channel?
[02:04] <klobster> bradsnet: did you do this DISABLED_MODULES="nv nvidia_new"
[02:04] <skkeeper> i installed second life... well the instalation crashed.. so i closed it...later i figure it that my synaptic doesnt open anymore... just pop out second life wasnt installed because it cant find its repository
[02:04] <skkeeper> and closes
[02:04] <halohunter> hello
[02:04] <sash__> hello
[02:04] <bradsnet> klobster: No, because it said to only do that if you have... uh, whatever it says, installed. I made sure it wasn't installed and didn't do that.
[02:04] <sash__> ^^
[02:04] <ctesibiusulpius> you know, this will make the second distro in two days I've just formatted over
[02:05] <skkeeper> :-(
[02:05] <klobster> bradsnet: ok, good, but if you uninstall the restricted drivers, is nv even installed at that point?
[02:05] <bradsnet> Heck if I know.
[02:05] <halohunter> is namol on
[02:05] <bradsnet> I don't know what they are. I'm just following instructions.
[02:06] <bradsnet> I've used kubuntu for only an hour or so longer than I've had this issue.
[02:07] <bradsnet> I used to use freebsd a while back... but that knowledge is pretty much useless except basic commands and such.
[02:07] <bradsnet> Most of these instructions seem to expect you to be at least a little psychic.
[02:07] <TraX> Does anybody know if Mono could be used to develop linux apps?
[02:07] <klobster> bradsnet: an hour!?! way to go for the big issues
[02:07] <bradsnet> Yeah, tell me about it.
[02:07] <klobster> TraX: can and is
[02:08] <bradsnet> Sadly that hour was spent installing and configuring other things.
[02:08] <TraX> Is it command line or could I do it right from MonoDevelop?
[02:09] <klobster> bradsnet: heh.  ok, well I guess you need to apt-get install nvidia-glx to get the nv driver back
[02:09] <TraX> Right now it only compiles for windows
[02:10] <bradsnet> That doesn't seem right.
[02:10] <bradsnet> nvidia-glx isn't nv.
[02:10] <klobster> TraX: mono is in the repos
[02:12] <bradsnet> Do you think I would have any different experience in ubuntu? All the instructions seem to be written for ubuntu, not kubuntu...
[02:13] <bradsnet> At the same time, I know the desktop manager is independent of X, and it's X with the issue... but the people saying it worked are all using ubuntu.
[02:13] <Anonymousguy> i've a problem whit my graphics card
[02:13] <bradsnet> Me too.
[02:13] <Anonymousguy> anybody can help me?
[02:14] <bradsnet> Is it an nvidia card?
[02:14] <Myr> what kimd of card is it
[02:14] <Anonymousguy> no, is a integrated card, is a VIA card
[02:14] <Myr> whats hte problem?
[02:14] <bradsnet> What is the issue?
[02:14] <sea> Theres a bug in Konversation
[02:15] <TraX> bradsnet: What video card are you running?
[02:15] <scheater5> Does anyone know about the state of the real time kernel in the gusty repos?
[02:15] <bradsnet> nvidia geforce 6800 go ultra
[02:15] <bradsnet> And yes I installed the binary drivers.
[02:15] <Anonymousguy> the resolution that Kubuntu displays is lower than it support
[02:15] <bradsnet> And followed the links on the howto and did that stuff.
[02:16] <screamx> anyone kno how to setup steam with wine i cant get it to wirk all the way
[02:16] <bradsnet> Hmm, I saw something about the resolution...
[02:16] <bradsnet> !resolution
[02:16] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:16] <TraX> screamx: Did you install the font?
[02:16] <klobster> bradsnet: sorry, making dinner for my daughter.  I meant sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[02:17] <klobster> I cut and pasted the the wrong line
[02:17] <Anonymousguy> and in the prefferences settings i dont reconfig the resolution, because the graphic card that Kubuntu recognize is different
[02:18] <bradsnet> Running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh may fix that, you can select the appropriate driver, then "check" the resolutions you need it to support.
[02:18] <Anonymousguy> That recognize that i have a 'vesa' card an a 'plug n' play' monitor
[02:18] <bradsnet> Though, you might not want to listen to me I seem to break video settings.
[02:19] <klobster> bradsnet: brb.  btw, did you try the older version?
[02:19] <bradsnet> Of what? nvidia-glx-legacy?
[02:20] <sash__> hellow again guy's how change my graphic card driver. cant set to display parameters!
[02:21] <Anonymousguy> thanks very much
[02:21] <bradsnet> This may or may not work for you: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[02:21] <Anonymousguy> broadsnet
[02:21] <bradsnet> sure
[02:21] <klobster> there isn't a difference between ubuntu and kubuntu as far as this is concerned; we haven't even got to a point in the loader where it would be different
[02:21] <bradsnet> klobster: Yeah, that's what I said...
[02:22] <klobster> bradsnet: no, the older version I mailed you.
[02:22] <bradsnet> What do I know though?
[02:22] <bradsnet> oh, you mailed it?
[02:22] <klobster> yeah, but i wasn't sure if you still had the livecd up or not
[02:23] <bradsnet> looks like I already had that stuff installed you sent me a minute ago.
[02:23] <bradsnet> I do, I just rebooted to check that though, heh.
[02:23] <bradsnet> I gotta go to the grocery store in a few... so I think I have to stop for now.
[02:24] <bradsnet> Maybe I'll reinstall kubuntu again, and try each of these instructions from scratch.
[02:24] <TECKBW> anybody that can help with pppoe setup for adsl connection...there  is more than one Access Concentrator, and I would like to specify which one to use .... is this possible and how
[02:25] <bradsnet> I guess now I know not to install a bunch of software THEN try to get drivers working.
[02:25] <TECKBW> I use pppoeconf to setup, but when it dials, pppoeconf says that invalid username
[02:26] <bradsnet> klobster: The one thing I'm pretty confident of is that if I do reinstall I can get nv working again.
[02:26] <klobster> bradsnet: also, it shouldn't make a difference, but grep Load /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if dri is commented out, or not
[02:26] <klobster> bradsnet: thats true
[02:27] <bradsnet> dri is not commented out.
[02:27] <TECKBW> the username and password provided work on windows box, so it's all got to do with Access Concentrator, do I add a line to the dsl-provider file in /etc/ppp/peers/
[02:27] <TECKBW> and what would the line be??
[02:28] <bradsnet> Sorry teck, wish I knew.
[02:28] <klobster> dri should be commented out when running the nvidia drivers
[02:29] <klobster> sorry, my daughter is having a meltdown, I gotta go.
[02:29] <bradsnet> Thanks for trying.
[02:29] <bradsnet> I'll see what that does.
[02:29] <TECKBW> bradsnet-->many ppl stay with windows because of an issue with pppoe connections on linux, I am lucky as I have wifi router doing the dialing but am not always at home so need a way to connect via pppoe
[02:29] <TECKBW> anyone else that may have a clue
[02:30] <bradsnet> Goodnight.
[02:30] <anthronaut> TECKBW: I used to have issued with pppoe, but I haven't used a ppp connection for _years_...
[02:40] <teguh> hi my brother in all the world
[02:41] <s_> hiya people
[02:41] <s_> anyone know good place for oki drivers for linux
[02:41] <s_> ?
[02:41] <s_> I have an oki c3300n, cant find a driver listed, been to linux-printing.org
[02:41] <s_> no joy
[02:42] <Q-collective> s_: what is an oki?
[02:42] <s_> its a colour laser printer
[02:43] <s_> www.oki.co.uk
[02:43] <s_> or www.okidata.com
[02:43] <Q-collective> ah
[02:43] <s_> Ive even tried sharing a windows driver on a windows box, I expect driver to come over or at least be visable, but no joy
[02:44] <NickPresta> !enter | s_
[02:44] <ubotu> s_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:44] <s_> k dude
[02:44] <elite101> hello i need help
[02:44] <elite101> with something
[02:45] <elite101> its Ndiswrapper
[02:45] <NickPresta> elite101, hi. What seems to be the problem?
[02:45] <elite101> lol
[02:45] <NickPresta> lol
[02:45] <Arwen> Under Linux I can't increase the priority of a process without being root?
[02:45] <Q-collective> s_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358838
[02:45] <elite101> its not my problem its my friends he is switching to kubuntu and has a dlink and he needs to install Ndiswrapper through a tarball because the Dlink is his internetsource so he cant dowload it threw adpet *takes abreath*
[02:46] <Q-collective> seems your odds are against
[02:46] <elite101> now he has the Tarball and i dont know how to install things from a tarrball
[02:46] <andersin> Awen: Yes, and for a good reason: You do not want to starve the processes that are more important
[02:46] <elite101> how do you install Ndiswrapper from a tarrball?
[02:46] <fkm> elite101: Why didn't he just download the .deb file?
[02:47] <elite101> lol
[02:47] <elite101> well you see
[02:47] <elite101> nvm...where?
[02:47] <elite101> where is the debian file?
[02:47] <fkm> Give me a min
[02:47] <andersin> Awen: so you cannot simply increase your priority
[02:47] <s_> thats the trouble, I looked on usual places, and cant see one for download
[02:47] <elite101> okay thanks fkm, i never used Ndiswrapper b4 and i want him to switch to kubuntu
[02:48] <elite101> i got him into linux :D
[02:49] <NickPresta> I want to use libmtp 0.2.1 in Feisty. Where can I get the deb of libmtp 0.2.1 (for Gutsy)?
[02:49] <hydrogen> just install ndiswrapper-utils
[02:49] <hydrogen> in adept
[02:49] <hydrogen> or with aptitude
[02:49] <elite101> lol he doesnt have internet
[02:49] <hydrogen> gutsy deb's will most likely not work on feisty due to the toolchainges
[02:49] <hydrogen> oh :)
[02:50] <elite101> lol
[02:50] <fkm> elite101: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ <-- Should be the one
[02:50] <elite101> so apt-get is outta the picture
[02:50] <BluesKaj> elite101, what is the tarball's file xtn  .gz or bz2 ?
[02:50] <NickPresta> hydrogen, what do you suggest? libmtp 0.1.3 is quite old and it doesn't work with my device.
[02:50] <elite101> thanks fkm,
[02:50] <elite101> tar,gz
[02:50] <hydrogen> !info libmtp
[02:50] <ubotu> Package libmtp does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:50] <NickPresta> libmtp5
[02:50] <NickPresta> !info libmtp5
[02:50] <hydrogen> !info libmtp6
[02:50] <ubotu> libmtp5: Implementation of Microsoft's MTP. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1.3-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 90 kB, installed size 312 kB
[02:50] <ubotu> Package libmtp6 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:50] <hydrogen> hmm
[02:51] <fkm> elite101: Just be aware that ndiswrapper is not the best way to go. I used it with a D-Link PCMCIA card. I can't really be sure. But I think it slowed down my system
[02:51] <elite101> fkm, errr wich one do i download? he has a 32bit i386 kubuntu 7.04 fiesty
[02:51] <hydrogen> !info libmtp5 feisty-backports
[02:51] <elite101> lol
[02:51] <ubotu> Package libmtp5 does not exist in feisty-backports
[02:51] <BluesKaj> elite101, tar -xvzf filname.tar.gz , then look in the file that's generated and you'll find a reame and an install text file , and follow the instructions
[02:51] <hydrogen> there goes that hope :)
[02:51] <elite101> is there an alternative to ndiswraooer
[02:51] <elite101> wrapper*
[02:51] <BluesKaj> readme file
[02:51] <hydrogen> elite101: are there no native linux drivers for his card?
[02:52] <elite101> err i hate doing work for other people
[02:52] <elite101> no
[02:52] <hydrogen> then there is no alternative
[02:52] <elite101> its a Dlink DWLG32 its a usb one
[02:52] <fkm> Id say: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-common_1.43-1ubuntu2_all.deb and http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9_1.43-1ubuntu2_i386.deb
[02:52] <elite101> okay thanks
[02:52] <hydrogen> remember you also need the windows driver package
[02:52] <NickPresta> hydrogen, I'm going to see if I can get libmtp6 working in feisty. The only thing that depends on libmtp5 is amarok and libmtp5-dev. I'm going to remove them and try my luck with libmtp6. Does that sound like it should work or are you certain it won't?
[02:52] <Q-collective> BluesKaj: actually, since tar 1.15 you don't need to explicitly say with what protocol to untar anymore. So tar xvf does the trick in any case.
[02:53] <BluesKaj> err elite101 . I know the feeling ..there are tutorials in the ubuntu forums that talk you thru tar installs
[02:53] <hydrogen> NickPresta: I'm not positive one way or the other.. however the package has been built with a whole different version of gcc against a different glibc
[02:53] <elite101> yeah but he is dumb
[02:53] <elite101> err i hate doing this
[02:53] <elite101> man this sucks stupid wireles
[02:54] <hydrogen> you can try, and if it doesn't work you could always try compiling it from scratch and installing to /usr/local
[02:54] <BluesKaj> Q-collective, well ok but i doubt any harm is done
[02:54] <fkm> Heheh :)
[02:54] <NickPresta> hydrogen, okay. If I decide to compile libmtp6 on my own, how would I get m system to recognize it and such? /usr/local/libmtp6?
[02:54] <hydrogen> assuming its a normal package
[02:54] <Q-collective> elite101: basically: apt-get install build-essentials, untar the tarball, cd into directory, ./configure && make, sudo make install
[02:54] <hydrogen> you would just ./configure --prefix=/usr/local
[02:54] <Q-collective> done
[02:54] <elite101> lolo okay and how do i get the card working?
[02:55] <elite101> it just does it automatically?
[02:55] <NickPresta> hydrogen, libmtp5 is in /usr/lib. Should I move the .a/la/so files there?
[02:55] <hydrogen> NickPresta: no.. in theory /usr/local/lib should be in your LD_LIBRARY_PATH alreadyh
[02:55] <hydrogen> not sure about that though :)
[02:55] <elite101> i have no clue what to do
[02:55] <NickPresta> hydrogen, ah okay. Thanks
[02:55] <fkm> elite101: WLAN is nice. I've just never gotten the thing to work properly. Even with the integrated WLAN card in my Thinkpad T60 (with native drivers) I can only connect to the network when I'm in close proximity to the accesspoint...
[02:56] <elite101> mhm i should tell him to f*ck it and get Wired internet
[02:56] <elite101> :D
[02:56] <fkm> Heheh. Tell him that it's much faster ;) Just don't mention that this is only within his LAN ;)
[02:56] <sea> THE ANSWER IS 42
[02:56] <elite101> lol
[02:56] <fkm> Heheh
[02:56] <TECKBW> anyone else have any ideas to sort out the pppoe issue ...(needing to specify Access Concentrator)
[02:57] <elite101> he lives in an apt with wireless
[02:57] <swirrel> hi everyone have a webcam5 ? this one : http://i.play.tm/s/130/g/150/1.jpg? NEED help with it...
[02:57] <elite101> :D durr his sisters boyfriend dont know jack about computers
[02:57] <TraX> But what is the question sea?
[02:57] <elite101> there rooms are rite beside eachother
[02:57] <sea> The question is : "What is the ultimate answer?"
[02:58] <sash__> i m download a ati driver on ati.amd.com host. but cant control this graph card how remove this driver / driver name :ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64
[02:58] <fkm> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Answer_to_Life,_the_Universe,_and_Everything
[02:58] <elite101> yes
[02:58] <elite101> thanks
[02:58] <elite101> i will give that to him
[02:59] <TECKBW> no one here using pppoe to connect to the internet???
[02:59] <U238Willy> there are instructions for ndiswrapper.. i remember there were two commands after compiling..
[02:59] <NickPresta> hydrogen, now I have libmtp6 in /usr/local/lib and when I tried to install amarok again, libmtp5 is installed. How do I use libmtp6 instead of libmtp5?
[02:59] <NickPresta> aw =(
[02:59] <NickPresta> lol
[03:00] <elite101> i need a tutorial for ndiswrapper so this windows user can use Linux instead of getting screwed over my Microshaft XD
[03:01] <U238Willy> forgive me, but, this was on a suse machine at the time.. there were to commands.. ndiswrapper -l and i think ndiswrapper -m
[03:01] <U238Willy> *two
[03:01] <TECKBW> i take it that no one uses pppoe to connect to the internet!!
[03:02] <elite101> NO
[03:02] <elite101> WE DONT LIKE dsl/dial-up xD
[03:03] <U238Willy> the first was to see if  ndiswrapper had 'wrapped' the driver file.. and the second to place the wrapped driver into the bootup configurations.
[03:03] <TECKBW> so how would one connect to the internet???  when cable and wireless is not available?
[03:03] <U238Willy> there might have been a third.. ndiswrapper -i
[03:03] <arctanx> TECKBW: carrier pigeons
[03:03] <U238Willy> for info on ndiswrapper.
[03:03] <TECKBW> lol
[03:03] <arctanx> TECKBW: don't laugh, it's been done
[03:04] <elite101> !ndiswrapper
[03:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:04] <arctanx> TECKBW: http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/
[03:04] <TECKBW> i may be a noob, but hell not backwards
[03:04] <elite101> hey
[03:04] <elite101> i got one more question
[03:04] <TECKBW> arctanx thanks for the link, will b checking it out
[03:04] <arctanx> np
[03:05] <elite101> My friends Dlink does not have any power going to it at all in Network manager or anything like Kubuntu isnt powering it on will ndiswrapper even work? it wont turn on without the proper driver? how will you install a driver to a device thats not there? and power it on? can you tell me that my friend is screwed and to tell him to go to wired :D please
[03:06] <TECKBW> looks like i have to eat my hat....lol....didn't think it was a protocol
[03:08] <elite101> yes i told him he was screwed
[03:08] <elite101> no more help from me :D i told him to get wired and that i will drill the holes in his walls myself
[03:09] <BluesKaj> well, I sure hope gutsy 7.10 is more ATI friendly than the x86 version i just tried to install ...no X ! The 64bit version went ok but the email program in kontact is just too clunky and as far as konq goes as browser , there needs plenty of work to speed up loading on encrypted sites ...it was terrbly slow , despite disabling Ipv6.
[03:10] <erov> ... only 1 of my 4 processors is being discovered.. i knew something was up >:(
[03:11] <NickPresta> How can I get amarok to use a compiled libmtp6 over libmtp5? Do I need to compile my own version of amarok?
[03:12] <elite101> erov, only 4? i have 8 :D its a quad/quad MOBO
[03:12] <BluesKaj> which version NickPresta ?
[03:13] <NickPresta> I'm on Feisty and I needed libmtp6. I compiled libmtp6 myself but I also have libmtp5 installed (it's an amarok dependency).
[03:14] <BluesKaj> of amarok ?
[03:14] <NickPresta> 1.4.7
[03:18] <teguh>  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  is freeze how to repair my linux in konsole
[03:21] <teguh> and my adept crash hi brother help yahhhh
[03:21] <elite101> !adeptfix | teguh
[03:21] <ubotu> teguh: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:22] <|neon|> ? is it safe to use ttrevinos sources?
[03:22] <michael> can someone help me with an ati x1200 problem?
[03:22] <elite101> sorry if that was already said i just came back
[03:22] <elite101> holy problems
[03:23] <elite101> micheal, i can ditch the ATI and but a NVidia :D
[03:23] <r0ck3t3r> anyone rememeber the game pirates gold?
[03:23] <elite101> nope
[03:24] <teguh>  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  if i use this command my konsole is freesh for along time
[03:24] <michael> elite101, i have nvidia on my desktop but my laptop has an integrated x1200  :(
[03:24] <elite101> Shhh....
[03:24] <r0ck3t3r> too bad, your all missing out
[03:24] <elite101> lol
[03:24] <BluesKaj> r0ck3t3r, this a kubuntu support channel ...want games ..google it
[03:24] <elite101> i know i have to problems you know why
[03:24] <elite101> Im running off the livecd
[03:25] <elite101> i have no HDD
[03:25] <r0ck3t3r> lol
[03:25] <michael> has anyone gotten kubuntu feisty installed with an x1200 ati card?
[03:25] <r0ck3t3r> ok how to get flash to work on a amd64, that thread i read dont work
[03:28] <BluesKaj> r0ck3t3r, if you want youtube towork on amd64 , try swiftfox browser
[03:29] <BluesKaj> and make sure you have java-common and j2re1.4 installed
[03:29] <ve6a> how can i run a program in another languager other then the default one
[03:30] <BluesKaj> as well as the flashplugin-nonfree
[03:31] <sanzanric> awn rocks!!!!
[03:31] <teguh> ubotu -> sudo fuser not work
[03:33] <BluesKaj> ve6a, system settings/regional&language/select system language
[03:33] <ve6a> i want to run once
[03:34] <modjo> hi, i have one question
[03:34] <modjo> regarding firefox java plugin
[03:36] <ve6a> BluesKaj: i want to run once from konsole or alt + f2
[03:36] <modjo> anybody had that type of troubles?
[03:37] <BluesKaj> modjo, what's your question?
[03:38] <raymond> is there a way to manually configure sound like there is to reconfigure X
[03:41] <BrightEyes`> anyone help me make my tv card work? when i "lspci" i get 02:07.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)
[03:43] <iskaldur> hi, my graphics card right now is an intel gma 3100, and compiz fusion doesn't really work too well on it...any suggestions on a graphics card that works well with kubuntu and compiz fusion? im looking for something pretty cheap, and i don't do graphics intensive stuff like games or anything...i just want compiz fusion working :)
[03:43] <modjo> blueskaj
[03:43] <BluesKaj> here , modjo
[03:43] <modjo> i want to view apps in java on mozilla, but doesnt seems to work, i have tried many things to configure it correctly
[03:44] <modjo> and i do see java apps in konqueror working
[03:44] <modjo> but not in mozilla
[03:45] <modjo> any toughts?
[03:46] <BluesKaj> modjo, have you considered firefox ?
[03:46] <modjo> im using firefox, my java plug in doesnt work for firefox
[03:47] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[03:47] <MarcC> how do I add a binary software package like Sauerbraten to my system so I can run it from anywhere?
[03:47] <BluesKaj> do you have java-common and j2re1.4 , modjo ?
[03:48] <modjo> im not sure due to many thins i added
[03:48] <modjo> lemme check
[03:48] <tekstacy> Somehow I "lost" the KNetworkManager icon from my system tray. How do I get it back?
[03:48] <ubuntu> I need help, O
[03:48] <ubuntu> I'm on kubuntu live, and i need to get some files off of my hard drive
[03:48] <NickPresta> tekstacy, right click > Add Applet > find knetworkmanager
[03:48] <modjo> tekstacy just use katapult
[03:48] <ubuntu> i get this error: hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 999
[03:48] <modjo> and launch it again
[03:49] <NickPresta> tekstacy, oh. I was thinking of knetload. sorry about that
[03:49] <modjo> blueskaj: youre right, i dont hhave j2re1.4
[03:50] <tekstacy> How does Katapuly work?
[03:50] <inaety> whatexactly is katapult
[03:50] <tekstacy> er Katapult
[03:50] <NickPresta> !info katapult
[03:50] <modjo> tekstace pres CTRL + spacebar
[03:50] <ubotu> katapult: item launcher for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.1.4-0ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 326 kB, installed size 2956 kB
[03:50] <modjo> and type knetwork
[03:50] <inaety> so katapult = alt+f2?
[03:50] <BluesKaj> modjo, I'm not sure that will solve your prob, but it did for me
[03:51] <Biovore> katapult should be alt-space
[03:51] <modjo> bluskaj theress j2re1.4 and j2re1.4 mozilla plug in
[03:51] <kubuntu-live-hal> Hi, I'm running Kubuntu live and the board is on the fritz, I luckliy got it to POST but I can't access the Windows 2000 hard drive. I get this error when mounting. hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 999
[03:51] <modjo> im gonna install the mozilla plug in
[03:51] <Biovore> inaety: shift space.. then type in am
[03:51] <Biovore> (alt space)
[03:51] <anonymousguy> hey, i tried to modify my video config and now i can't see anything when i boot Kubuntu, until the command prompt, what i need to do?
[03:51] <inaety> dang kansas state...
[03:52] <modjo> downloading
[03:52] <anonymousguy> i'm running the live CD
[03:52] <inaety> Biovore: just predicts it for ya
[03:52] <anonymousguy> but in need to solve that
[03:52] <Biovore> yup.. you can also type in number and it acts like a calculator
[03:52] <inaety> anonymousguy: if you are just running the livecd just restart your computer
[03:52] <anonymousguy> no, you understand me
[03:53] <inaety> anonymousguy: you installed kubuntu, but it doesnt start, so you know you put in the cd?
[03:53] <kubuntu-live-hal> i think he is running on live cd because he messed up his video config
[03:53] <inaety> err what was the xorgconfig thing for ubuntu
[03:54] <modjo> blueskaj: installing...
[03:54] <anonymousguy> i was trying to modify my graphic card config, but when i restart the x server i can't see amything, until the command prompt
[03:54] <anonymousguy> and now i'm running the live cd trying to solve that
[03:55] <modjo> testing
[03:55] <anonymousguy> kubuntu-live-hal: you're right
[03:55] <tekstacy> someone type my nick please.....
[03:56] <TraX> tekstacy:
[03:56] <inaety> anonymousguy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:56] <inaety> and then configure it
[03:56] <modjo> blueskaj
[03:56] <modjo> nope didnt work, but now theres something a little bit different
[03:56] <BluesKaj> tekstacy
[03:56] <tekstacy> thanks, vocal works now...
[03:56] <anonymousguy> ok, i'll try that, but i need to restart, thanx
[03:57] <michael> can someone help me with a video card issue?
[03:57] <modjo> theres an app in java with the X
[03:57] <inaety> anonymousguy: okay
[03:57] <tekstacy> Katapult is alt-space, but what do I do with it then?
[03:57] <inaety> tekstacy: type something!
[03:57] <modjo> tekstace: type knetwork
[03:57] <modjo> and then ENTER
[03:57] <BluesKaj> modjo, in the browser addressbar type about:plugins ...check what's installed
[03:58] <anonymousguy> anyone know if this sever has a spanish-speak channel
[03:58] <tekstacy> Ok, I beleive it is running, but it still isn't showing in the tray. any ideas?
[03:58] <Biovore> !es
[03:58] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:59] <modjo> blueskaj theres a lot of thing installed
[03:59] <anonymousguy> gracias
[03:59] <modjo> Java(TM) Plug-in Blackdown-1.4.2-02
[03:59] <modjo> Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0-b105
[03:59] <Biovore> why use blackdown..  use sun's
[03:59] <BluesKaj> flash ?
[03:59] <modjo> also but i dont thinks its relevant
[04:00] <modjo> Shockwave Flash
[04:00] <modjo> File name: libflashplayer.so
[04:00] <BluesKaj> flashplugin-nonfree..think i already mentioned that tho
[04:01] <modjo> i dont understand you, i do have the flash plugin
[04:01] <modjo> suffix swl and spl
[04:01] <BluesKaj> the nonfree version
[04:02] <modjo> i dont have that
[04:02] <modjo> do i neet ir?
[04:02] <modjo> it?
[04:03] <BluesKaj> yes
[04:04] <BluesKaj> flashplugin-nonfree
[04:04] <modjo> wait lemme request it
[04:06] <modjo> blueskaj: testing
[04:06] <penba> Hi. How could I go about configuring xorg for a monitor that has been rotated 270 or 90 degrees?
[04:07] <MarcC> you just add the xrandrotate or whatever it's called to xorg.conf, then the pref is inside configuration when you restart X
[04:07] <modjo> it WORKED!!!!
[04:07] <penba> thanks
[04:08] <BluesKaj> glad to hear it , modjo :)
[04:08] <modjo> blueskaj: it worked, but i also downloaded some more things i wound quering with mozilla in adept manager
[04:08] <modjo> thaks a lot for the support
[04:09] <BluesKaj> ur welcome :)
[04:09] <modjo> talk you laters :D take care :D
[04:11] <tekstacy> A?nyone know how to restore my KNetworkManager to the system tray
[04:11] <flaccid> tekstacy: run the program knetworkmanager
[04:11] <Aondo> ***MEMORY-ERROR***: firestarter[3020] : GSlice: assertion failed: sinfo->n_allocated > 0, doesnt sound good :P
[04:11] <michael> can anyone help me with ati x1200?
[04:11] <tekstacy> it doesn't do anything. It is already running
[04:11] <wers> for k3b, what package do I install to have the mp3 decoder plugin
[04:11] <flaccid> !ati | michael
[04:11] <ubotu> michael: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:12] <wers> !mp3
[04:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:12] <flaccid> tekstacy: ah well
[04:12] <tekstacy> thanks anyway though.
[04:12] <michael> ubotu: i dont think they could help me, my problem is that i cant install ubuntu feisty cause of my video card... it cant load x server
[04:13] <flaccid> tekstacy: i would help further, but there are numerous problems with knetworkmanager/networkmanager . is your network working?
[04:13] <tekstacy> yup
[04:13] <michael> lol ubotu's a bot
[04:13] <flaccid> tekstacy: that condition seems to be common
[04:13] <tekstacy> Is there something BETTER then KNetwork?
[04:13] <flaccid> tekstacy: do you have wireless?
[04:14] <tekstacy> yes
[04:14] <tekstacy> Seems to be conected
[04:14] <flaccid> um knetworkmanager is actually the best
[04:14] <flaccid> when it works
[04:14] <Arkard> Hola a todos
[04:14] <flaccid> !info kwireless
[04:14] <ubotu> Package kwireless does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:14] <Arkard> Hi everybody
[04:14] <erz-> just a question, i'm formating a primary partition (windows xp) for installing kubuntu (10g), i have a second logic partition on the same disk. Could i read data on it after formating the primary partition ? thx :  )
[04:14] <flaccid> can't remember the other ones, but they are not any better. knetworkmanager is just a frontend to networkmanager but there are lots of issues
[04:15] <Arkard> i need some help please
[04:15] <flaccid> tekstacy: i think there is knetworkstats if you want just an icon
[04:15] <Arkard> i want to install an Nvidia MX 4000
[04:15] <Arkard> But i cant close the X server
[04:15] <Arkard> can anybody help me plz
[04:15] <flaccid> Arkard: ctrl + alt + bckspc to kill X
[04:16] <michael> if i install a video card driver for edgy do i have to install a new one if i upgrade to feisty?
[04:16] <Arkard> let me try plz
[04:16] <MarcC> michael, probably not especially if you use drivers from the repos
[04:16] <flaccid> !find knetstats
[04:17] <ubotu> Found: knetstats
[04:17] <flaccid> tekstacy: http://knetstats.sourceforge.net/
[04:17] <flaccid> !info knetstats
[04:17] <ubotu> knetstats: network interfaces monitor for KDE's systray. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 105 kB, installed size 596 kB
[04:17] <flaccid> its a monitor only
[04:17] <erz-> i'm not sure about the abilities to read a ntfs locgical partition
[04:17] <flaccid> erz-: ability exists
[04:17] <erz-> i dont want to loose the 180Gb of data on the second partition
[04:18] <michael> MarcC, do i need a certain repo? i have an x1200 card and i cant install feisty on it (x server wont load) so i have to install edgy
[04:18] <erz-> thats just 10Gb 8 for system 2 for swap and keep my data
[04:19] <wers> I have installed libxine1-ffmpeg but I still cannot burn mp3s
[04:20] <flaccid> erz-: np
[04:20] <tekstacy> knetstats looks cool, I will use it, thanks flaccid
[04:21] <flaccid> cool
[04:21] <erz-> flaccid: in fact i have to format the 10gb before creating / & swap ?
[04:21] <flaccid> !format
[04:21] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:21] <Arkard> Im back
[04:22] <Arkard> Sorry but ctrl + alt + backspace is for restart
[04:22] <flaccid> if you are installing erz- use the installer program it not use qtparted to create new parts/fs
[04:22] <flaccid> Arkard: what do you want to do
[04:22] <Arkard> close the X server
[04:23] <flaccid> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop from a tty
[04:23] <Arkard> i need it to install a Video Card
[04:23] <flaccid> you usually turn off the computer to put a video card in
[04:23] <Arkard> what is a tty, sorry i just start in Linux a few days ago
[04:23] <erz-> i have just only a kubuntu edgy cd, my dvdwiter jus died
[04:23] <flaccid> Arkard: hold ctrl + alt + f2
[04:23] <Arkard> ah, right
[04:24] <Arkard> and then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[04:24] <Arkard> K, let me try
[04:25] <michael> my live cd wont boot to xserver on my laptop. can someone help?
[04:25] <erz-> i fear :q
[04:25] <awake> XD
[04:26] <BluesKaj> michael , which cd ?
[04:26] <BluesKaj> version
[04:26] <michael> feisty
[04:26] <erz-> flaccid: i dont understand well your answer i have to use the Kubuntu installer ?
[04:27] <flaccid> erz-: what exactly are you doing
[04:27] <michael> BluesKaj: feisty doesnt work but edgy boots up though. i think its a video card problem. i have ati x1200
[04:28] <erz-> i want to format my ntfs primary partition and wont loose data on the logical disk...
[04:28] <MarcC> michael: you can use the VESA driver if you just need X. It's much easier to get full graphics card support after you've installed the distro to your HD.
[04:28] <elite101> Hey i just went out and bought 2 Nvidia's 8800GTX (im on my PCI card) and it has the SLI clip on them but how do i set it up on kubuntu for both of them to work?
[04:28] <flaccid> erz-: use qtparted and format it. any filesystem you format will loose all data on that partition, but the other partitions will remain intact
[04:29] <elite101> :P obv im just kidding
[04:29] <michael> MarcC: im new to this. i have only used envy to install driver but it didnt work this time. do i install edgy then vesa from repo then try to update?
[04:29] <tekstacy> screw it, I'll just keep stealing the neighbor's wireless for the night....
[04:29] <BluesKaj> ok, the ati cards have been a prob (I have one too) with some kubuntus , it's kinda hit or miss ...wasn't able to use the latest gutsy x86 , but the 64bit version worked.
[04:29] <erz-> i cant use qtparted cause i have just one cd with edgy and my dvd-writer died :D
[04:30] <michael> BluesKaj, what ati card u have. i might try the 64 bit version then
[04:30] <flaccid> erz-: use the edgy cd. all you have to do is install the qtparted package
[04:32] <BluesKaj> michael ,on board X200G...but i don't recommend the 64 bit version, it's not ready for prime time
[04:32] <BluesKaj> I reverted back to x86 fiesty
[04:33] <Arwen> can anyone recommend a system monitor app? On GNOME I had Gkrellm, is there something like that for KDE?
[04:34] <flaccid> !ksysguard
[04:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksysguard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:34] <flaccid> !info ksysguard
[04:34] <ubotu> ksysguard: system guard for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20.2 (feisty), package size 508 kB, installed size 1596 kB
[04:34] <Arwen> no, not ksysguard
[04:34] <flaccid> what do you want to monitor?
[04:34] <Arwen> something that floats around on my desktop
[04:34] <flaccid> um there are some, can't remember their names sorry
[04:34] <Arwen> CPU usage, memory, net usage, stuff like that
[04:34] <erz-> its done i'm installing... well i well see =). I have kde on the laptop and i want to try xfce. What i have to do first upgrade to feisty or moving to xfce ?
[04:35] <Arkard> Im back again
[04:35] <Arkard> This is a Headache
[04:35] <tekstacy> ok, I don't have the learning time in my life for this. I'm going back to XP
[04:36] <Arkard> so, at last i can close the X server
[04:36] <Arkard> but i cant install the Driver
[04:36] <Arkard> Tell me something about i dont have kernel
[04:36] <Arkard> or something like that
[04:36] <Arkard> can anybody help me again T_T?
[04:38] <Arkard> a little help please T_T
[04:39] <TraX> Arkard: What driver/card?
[04:39] <MarcC> michael: the way I do it is, I install from the CD, then get at least vesa working (you don't need to install vesa, just type it in under the driver name or select it in the x configurator). Then I run Envy or ideally install nvidia-glx from synaptic (I have nvidia).
[04:39] <Arkard> Nvidia GForce MX 4000
[04:40] <TraX> Which nvidia driver are you trying to install?
[04:40] <BluesKaj> Envy works on fiesty ?
[04:40] <Arkard> let me see
[04:41] <Arkard> one i downloaded from Nvidia website
[04:41] <Arkard> is suppose to be a Linux Driver
[04:41] <Arkard> is .run
[04:41] <Biovore> yup..
[04:41] <TraX> What problem are you having exactly
[04:41] <flaccid> erz-: just install the xfce package
[04:42] <Biovore> Arkard: to install that version of the nvidia driver you will need to install the following packages..  build-essential and kernel-headers
[04:42] <flaccid> erz-: probably install xubuntu-desktop
[04:42] <erz-> and remove kubuntu-desktop ?
[04:42] <michael> MarcC, what do u mean by just type it in under the driver name or select it in the x configurator?
[04:42] <Biovore> erz-: you can have both :-)
[04:42] <flaccid> erz-: have both. select which one you want on login screen for desktop environment
[04:43] <erz-> i have low space :)
[04:44] <flaccid> im on a livecd heh coz my hdd is broken heh
[04:46] <MarcC> michael: when you install Ubuntu it's got an X-server configuration utility, you just tell it to use vesa if you can't get your video card driver to work. Failing that, you can just type "vesa" in xorg.conf under the driver name.
[04:47] <Arkard> sorry TraX, i was DC for a moment
[04:48] <TraX> Arkard: S'ok, what exact problem is the NVIDIA binary giving you right now>?
[04:48] <michael> MarcC, sorry for being noobish but how do i find out what driver to get out of synaptic for radeon x1200
[04:48] <Arkard> that i dont have kernel or something like that
[04:48] <Arkard> that cant found the kernel
[04:48] <TraX> Arkard: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:49] <TraX> Arkard: sudo apt-get install kernel-headers
[04:49] <flaccid> should follow the wiki for this Arkard
[04:49] <Arkard> let me try
[04:49] <flaccid> michael: fglrx probably
[04:49] <flaccid> !ati | michael
[04:49] <ubotu> michael: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:51] <wckdkl0wn> what would i use to convert xvid to dvd in kubuntu?
[04:52] <flaccid> !dvdauthoring
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdauthoring - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <TraX> wckdkl0wn: DeVeDe
[04:53] <flaccid> wckdkl0wn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DVDAuthoring?highlight=%28dvd%29
[04:53] <BluesKaj> tovid
[04:53] <flaccid> options on that page
[04:53] <Arkard> i cant download the kernel-headers TraX
[04:54] <flaccid> wckdkl0wn: also see if any of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=dvd&titlesearch=Titles are of any use
[04:55] <michael> flaccid, can i install fglrx from the repos or do i have to do all the command line work?
[04:55] <flaccid> michael: either
[04:55] <raynerd> guys, noob question - when I install a program, where does it show up?
[04:55] <raynerd> i.e where can i access it from?
[04:56] <michael> so i just click on fglrx from the repo and thats it?
[04:56] <raynerd> I`ve installed gchemical, but cant see it to open it anywhere
[04:56] <flaccid> michael: you will need to configure X to use that drive once its installed
[04:56] <sumguy231> raynerd: Try using KAppfinder, it finds new applications and lets you add them to the K menu
[04:57] <flaccid> raynerd: probably need to run the command gchemical
[04:57] <michael> flaccid, how do i do that. sorry, im a noob
[04:57] <flaccid> michael: please follow the wiki, thats what it is there for
[04:57] <raynerd> in terminal?
[04:57] <flaccid> Arkard: maybe its sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`
[04:58] <flaccid> raynerd: or from kmenu | run
[04:58] <michael> ill give it a try
[04:58] <sumguy231> raynerd: I should also mention that if you want to add it to the menu manually you can right-click on the k menu button and click' menu editor'.
[04:58] <raynerd> sunguy: will try
[04:59] <raynerd> whats K menu ?
[04:59] <sumguy231> The main menu, with a K on it.
[04:59] <sumguy231> on the button I mean
[04:59] <Arkard> flaccid what is `uname -r`?
[05:00] <TraX> Arkard: Go to console and type uname -r
[05:00] <sumguy231> Arkard - it's a command that displays your kernel version. the backticks insert it into the apt-get command so to speak
[05:00] <raynerd> ahhh bummer , i`m in kbuntu , im running edubuntu
[05:00] <flaccid> Arkard: kernel version
[05:00] <flaccid> i have to go, cyas
[05:00] <encom> hola
[05:00] <sumguy231> raynerd: Err, which desktop are you using? Could you clarify a bit? If it's Gnome you can still edit the menu with alacarte.
[05:00] <encom> hola
[05:00] <Arkard> it says 2.6.20-15-386
[05:01] <Arkard> que onda encom
[05:01] <encom> hola pana y o de venezuela
[05:01] <encom> testeandeubuntu
[05:01] <encom> OSEA MI PRUIMERA VEZ EN LINUX  JEJEJE
[05:01] <Arkard> ah
[05:01] <raynerd> sumguy231: i`m running edubuntu but not sure which desktop interface!! i`m new, only installed yesterday and learning
[05:01] <encom> ARKARD
[05:01] <Arkard> still cant download that header
[05:02] <encom> DE DODNDE ERES
[05:02] <Arkard> encom, permiteme que tengo problemas para instalar mi tarjeta de video
[05:02] <Arkard> soy de Nicaragua
[05:02] <encom> OK
[05:02] <encom> BIEN
[05:02] <michael> raynerd, sumguy231 left channel
[05:02] <sumguy231> raynerd: what does it look like? If there are applications, places, and system menus it's gnome. If there's a K it's kde.
[05:03] <sumguy231> And I'm back.
[05:03] <michael> or not
[05:03] <Arkard> i read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto but did not help
[05:04] <encom> UNA PREG PARA CUANDETSES  DESOCUPADO  ARKAD
[05:04] <raynerd> sumguy231: it GNOME then
[05:04] <Arkard> claro
[05:04] <encom> TENGO  UN  USB  WIRELES   LINKSIS
[05:04] <Arkard> TraX this is a big Problem or im very stupid
[05:04] <raynerd> so just added loads of software but cant see any of it
[05:04] <sumguy231> Press alt+f2 and run 'alacarte'. This will let you edit the menu and add an entry for whatever you installed. I'm sure there's a nice way to do it like with kappfinder, but I don't use Gnome so I wouldn't know. If you want mroe gnome help try #ubuntu
[05:05] <encom> Y BUENO COMO SOY NUEVO    EN LINUX
[05:05] <raynerd> ok cheers
[05:05] <TraX> Arkard: It's a very annoying problem, I'm looking up the exact syntax you need to get this going
[05:05] <sumguy231> or #edubuntu
[05:05] <encom> Q PROGRAMA ME RECOMIENDAS
[05:05] <Arkard> Thanks TraX
[05:05] <sumguy231> alright, I'll be back later.
[05:05] <Arkard> Programa de que?
[05:05] <encom> Q MANEJE
[05:05] <encom> EL WIFI
[05:06] <Arkard> Mmmm, desde linux Supongo
[05:06] <encom> SIP
[05:06] <Arkard> Permiteme, ya te digo
[05:06] <encom> LEY POR ALLI Q HAY UNO Q DESBLOQUEA LAS SENALES Q ESTN EN WEP
[05:06] <encom> OK
[05:06] <Biovore> !es
[05:06] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:07] <Arkard> encom kwifimanager
[05:07] <Arkard> wifi-radar
[05:07] <encom> OK
[05:08] <encom> OK OTRA CISITA  MAS
[05:08] <encom> AVECES BAJO  UN PROGRAMA Y  NO SE COMO INSTALARLO
[05:08] <encom> TODOS LOS PROGRAMAS DE LINUX
[05:08] <Arkard> mira, hay un programa que se llama Adept
[05:08] <encom> SE INSTALAN POR CONSOLA
[05:08] <Arkard> esta en sistema
[05:08] <Arkard> ahi busca adept
[05:09] <encom> OK
[05:09] <Arkard> y desde ahi instalas todo de manera facil
[05:09] <Arkard> Hey TraX, have to go for now
[05:09] <DrWilcock> no para todos
[05:09] <Arkard> can you send me an email?
[05:10] <TraX> Arkard: I just found it
[05:10] <Arkard> really?
[05:10] <Arkard> tell me
[05:10] <TraX> Arkard: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:10] <Arkard> im going to save it an readi it later, thanks TraX
[05:10] <Arkard> encom, me voy
[05:10] <Arkard> te veo luego
[05:11] <encom> OK GRACIAS
[05:11] <TraX> Arkard: Hasta luego
[05:11] <encom> MAN
[05:11] <encom> ESE ADEP Q HACE
[05:11] <TraX> Arkard: Be sure to read it, it will help a lot
[05:11] <Arkard> K, thanks again
[05:13] <encom> ALGUIEN  Q ME DIGA  Q HACE EL ADEPT
[05:15] <encom> HOLA
[05:16] <encom> ALGUIEN AQUI
[05:16] <encom> HEYYYYYYYYYYYY
[05:17] <encom> I NEED HELP
[05:18] <encom> HOLA
[05:19] <encom> HOLA
[05:19] <encom> HELP
[05:19] <encom> HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
[05:20] <NickPresta> !patience | encom
[05:20] <ubotu> encom: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:21] <bionic> how do you use john the ripper
[05:22] <encom> OK  THNAKS  UBOTU
[05:22] <milardovich> jtr suks :S
[05:22] <milardovich> it gives u a lot of "possible ways"
[05:22] <milardovich> and no one is the right :P
[05:25] <encom>    K
[05:32] <bionic> can someoen tell me how tot install and use john the ripper
[05:35] <sea> How do I put sourceforge on synaptic?
[05:38] <erz-> lol i go in 1280x1024 and nothing apperas on the screen
[05:50] <josiah> im in remote places -> samba shares... i see the network.. i go into the network and i see the computer i want to access but when i try to go into that it gives me a connection error? what am i doing wrong?
[05:51] <josiah> never mind it was firewall
[05:52] <vbgunz> how do you encrupt a password using md5sum? without passing it a file?
[05:55] <vbgunz> currently, I say md5sum <enter> write out text and before hitting enter hit Ctrl+D twice... is this how it should be done? the returned password is correct when compared to pythons hashlib md5 method
[05:55] <DaSkreech> Is KDE.org down?
[05:55] <vbgunz> I just dont understand what passing a single - to read from stdin mean. "md5sum - text" produces nothing :/
[05:57] <sumguy231> DaSkreech: No.
[05:58] <encom> #kubuntuesp
[05:59] <encom> #kubuntues
[05:59] <DaSkreech> sumguy231: Ah My ISP sucks then
[05:59] <DaSkreech> !us
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about us - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <DaSkreech> !es
[05:59] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:00] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: - is a special file
[06:00] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: which means the keyboard
[06:00] <vbgunz> DaSkreech: not sure how to use it :/
[06:01] <vbgunz> I thought it would read what I wrote after it, e.g., md5sum - hi -> 49f68a5c8493ec2c0bf489821c21fc3b
[06:02] <Biovore> echo "hi" | md5sum
[06:03] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: No not like that at all :)
[06:03] <DaSkreech> Biovore is on the right track
[06:03] <vbgunz> Biovore: that doesn't work, I tried it :(
[06:03] <Biovore> echo "hi" > md5sum ?
[06:04] <vbgunz> not that
[06:04] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: it's used for commands that expect a file but you want to use stdin instead
[06:04] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: What are you trying to do?
[06:04] <vbgunz> Biovore: that second one returns nothing
[06:04] <Biovore> rgr
[06:04] <Biovore> I done it before.. I forgot what it is..
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Biovore first one was right
[06:05] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: What are you trying to do?
[06:05] <vbgunz> DaSkreech: I just realized I cannot do it, am trying to password protect grub and thought I needed md5crypt but it turns out it is available within interactive grub
[06:05] <Biovore> oh yeah..  forgot the -
[06:05] <Biovore> echo "hi" | md5sum -
[06:05] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: So problem solved?
[06:05] <vbgunz> Biovore: thats not it either
[06:06] <vbgunz> DaSkreech: yeah :)
[06:06] <vbgunz> I didn't realize to create the password, I needed to go into interactive grub first, I thought I needed to download something but knew about md5crypt
[06:06] <vbgunz> sorry, md5sum*
[06:07] <vbgunz> it turns out, md5scrypt churns out completely different data so it's not really turning it into an md5 hash
[06:07] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: Learnign is fun
[06:07] <jcs7778> I have a file that i need to execute in the terminal. I cd ed into the directory it is in and ./myfile -many many options and got a return of unable to execute ./myfile: permission denied. I already checked to make sure that i have execution privleages andI think i do. My ls -l lists -rwxrwxrwx for the file in questiono.
[06:07] <DaSkreech> speeling is too!
[06:08] <vbgunz> Biovore: btw, when you get the md5 hash to hi it should be 49f68a5c8493ec2c0bf489821c21fc3b ;)
[06:08] <vbgunz> DaSkreech: thanks :)
[06:08] <DaSkreech> 764efa883dda1e11db47671c4a3bbd9e
[06:08] <vbgunz> DaSkreech: it should start with the 4
[06:08] <DaSkreech> jcs7778: Righto what's the name of said file?
[06:08] <Biovore> 764efa883dda1e11db47671c4a3bbd9e <-- I get that as the md5sum for hi
[06:09] <vbgunz> hi without quotes
[06:09] <Biovore> that is..
[06:09] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: the shell strips the quotes
[06:09] <jcs7778> make_fw it's used in putting ipod linux on an ipod
[06:09] <DaSkreech> jcs7778: and it's permissions are 777 ?
[06:09] <vbgunz> md5sum <enter> hi <Ctrl+D> <Ctrl+D> -> 49f68a5c8493ec2c0bf489821c21fc3b
[06:09] <vbgunz> pythons hashlib md5 also returns the same
[06:10] <jcs7778> DaSkreech: yeah, i ran a chmod 777 make_fw
[06:11] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: Silly
[06:11] <vbgunz> ?
[06:11] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: it's md5sum <enter>hi<enter><Ctrl+D>
[06:12] <vbgunz> DaSkreech: that too returns something different ;)
[06:12] <DaSkreech> jcs7778: try sh make_fw
[06:12] <vbgunz> I think it adds in the new line :)
[06:12] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: Yes I think it returns our answer which makes us right :)
[06:12] <DaSkreech> Join the majority !! :)
[06:13] <vbgunz> heh, as long as it is the above ^49.+3b$ version, yeah, we're right :)
[06:14] <vbgunz> heh
[06:14] <jcs7778> DaSkreech:  that just output another error "make_fw: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected"
[06:15] <DaSkreech> hmm
[06:15] <DaSkreech> ./make_fw gives you the same error?
[06:16] <jcs7778> DaSkreech:  no, ./ gives me a permission denied error
[06:16] <DrWilcock> if i get a link to youtube may i get sued on MPAA?
[06:17] <DaSkreech> DrWilcock: You can be sued by the MPAA For getting up this morning
[06:17] <DrWilcock> that sucks
[06:17] <DaSkreech> jcs7778: funky Who owns the file?
[06:19] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Hiya!
[06:19] <jcs7778> DaSkreech:  If it's any help i'm trying to follow this how to "http://ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux" I'm at the part Kernel Instellation. I also just ran chown myusername make_fw. I should own it.
[06:21] <DaSkreech> jcs7778: does it have any pictures?
[06:21] <jgoss> jcs7778, try chmod +x on the file. maybe it doesn't have executable permissions. sorry if thats already been suggested.
[06:22] <jcs7778> I've also tried executing the file as root using sudo. After running chmod +x make_fw I still get the same error
[06:23] <anonymousguy> listo
[06:24] <vbgunz> brb, need to test grub :|
[06:25] <soulrider> !adeptfix
[06:25] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:26] <soulrider> hello :)
[06:26] <DaSkreech> jcs7778: try sudo su then run it
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Hi soulrider
[06:28] <jcs7778> Nope.
[06:28] <DaSkreech> blast
[06:28] <soulrider> hi DaSkreech
[06:28] <soulrider> !xorg
[06:28] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:28] <DaSkreech> jcs7778: are you sur the file isn't corrupted
[06:29] <jcs7778> I have no idea, i can try downloading another copy. But actually I know i've had this problem with other executibles on this system
[06:30] <DaSkreech> ...
[06:30] <DaSkreech> NEVER RESOLVED THEM?
[06:30] <DaSkreech> Whoops
[06:32] <jcs7778> DaSkreech: I think i'm gonna log off and re-boot into debian perhapse a different operating system would do it?
[06:33] <DaSkreech> jcs7778: Maybe come back and let me know that sounds like your bash needs to reinstall
[06:34] <tekstacy_> 'lo all
[06:36] <DaSkreech> hi
[06:36] <tekstacy> How does Fedora comare to Kubuntu?
[06:37] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: too broad a question
[06:37] <tekstacy> er compare even
[06:38] <tekstacy> Does Fedora use KDE?
[06:38] <sumguy231> tekstacy: Nope, Gnome by default.
[06:39] <tekstacy> Do you think Fedora is worth the hassle to try?
[06:39] <DaSkreech> sumguy231: not true
[06:39] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: starting with 7 you can download the KDE Cd or the Gnome CD
[06:40] <DaSkreech> so there is no default just like debian or Gentoo you build it as you see fit
[06:40] <sumguy231> Oh, my bad. I didn't know that about Fedora 7.
[06:40] <tekstacy> still kind of new to this "build it" is sketchy for me
[06:40] <DaSkreech> however to back up sumguy231 They really really like Gnome so the last time I saw fedora (two relelases ago) the KDE desktop looked exactly like a Gnome desktop
[06:41] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: you make the choice when you install
[06:41] <DaSkreech> If you want KDE you click and you have KDE instead of GNOME
[06:41] <nixternal> DaSkreech: and the KDE desktop still does...with their retro 1980 bluecurve icons :)
[06:42] <sumguy231> It seems like they always use Gnome for their demo screenshots. Heck, I don't think I've even seen any KDE Fedora users around. :)
[06:42] <sumguy231> Do they even exist?
[06:42] <nixternal> yup
[06:42] <sumguy231> Or are they some kind of myth?
[06:42] <nixternal> probably just their developers :)
[06:42] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: hi!
[06:42] <nixternal> oi oi Hobbsee
[06:42] <Hobbsee> hiya nixternal
[06:43] <drkfce> I have a dual boot machine, with windows and Kubuntu, and while the router works properly in windows, ubuntu will not recieve an IP, static or not.  I've tried ifconfig down and dhclient.  Is there anything else I can do?
[06:43] <DaSkreech> nixternal: You are running 7 ?
[06:43] <nixternal> not any more
[06:43] <DaSkreech> nixternal: KDe of course
[06:43] <nixternal> umm, ;p
[06:44] <nixternal> my only gnome system right now is foresight
[06:44] <tekstacy> Gnome seemed a bit childish-like, like osx
[06:44] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: If you are iffy I would say hang out at both IRC chans and forums and see which one is friendlier and more in tune with you
[06:44] <nixternal> and I don't even boot it anymore
[06:44] <DaSkreech> Although if you strongly want KDE I would think that Kubuntu is more your stepping stone
[06:44] <nixternal> drkfce: you are using ethernet or wifi?
[06:44] <drkfce> ethernet
[06:44] <DaSkreech> Course I'm >slightly< biased
[06:45] <DaSkreech> !botsnack
[06:45] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:45] <DaSkreech> that's right ubotu that's right
[06:45] <drkfce> well, wifi can be ethernet, so wired would be a better answer :P
[06:45] <nixternal> drkfce: odd, do you know what the net card is?
[06:45] <drkfce> onboard
[06:45] <sumguy231> drkfce: Do an lspci and see if you see your ethernet card there.
[06:45] <drkfce> nic
[06:45] <sumguy231> drkfce: Or in this case onboard chipset.
[06:46] <drkfce> Wish I could copy and paste the answer, but it seems taht lspci sees the port
[06:46] <drkfce> ifconfig shows the port too
[06:46] <nixternal> drkfce: what does knetworkmanager show in the system tray?
[06:47] <demonspork> the P key isn't working at all in ubuntu unless I use it with Shift+P.  I need helP, and I have tried USB, and PS/2 keyboards, changing the X keyboard settings, everything, but it just won't work
[06:47] <drkfce> it has wired network, but it is grayed out
[06:47] <nixternal> I wouldn't put it past networkmangler
[06:47] <sumguy231> drkfce: What exactly happens when you try ifconfig eth0 up? No dhcp offers received? What does your /etc/network/interfaces look like?
[06:47] <tekstacy> how do I check hdd usage?
[06:48] <sumguy231> tekstacy: df -h
[06:48] <drkfce> it tries dhcp 3 times, then it sleeps
[06:48] <drkfce> when i do dhclient
[06:48] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: df -h if you aer a human
[06:48] <DaSkreech> are
[06:48] <drkfce> when I do ifconfig eth0 up, it says nothing, acting like it worked
[06:48] <sumguy231> But don't use the '-h' option if you're a robot or something. ;)
[06:48] <tekstacy> :)   human = uses cli?
[06:49] <Dr_willis> df -h -x tmpfs -x devpts -x usbfs
[06:49] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: Ha ha :)
[06:49] <Dr_willis> Is worth making into a "ShowDisks" alias
[06:49] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:49] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: after about a year you will love teh CLi
[06:50] <DaSkreech> it's fast and does what you want it to with very very little compromise
[06:50] <drkfce> I love keyboard shortcuts
[06:50] <sumguy231> drkfce: I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around that. Could you put the output in pastebin?
[06:50] <drkfce> heh, I have no means to connect to the system
[06:50] <tekstacy> I use it all the time in Win.
[06:50] <drkfce> and the system has no means to get to the internet
[06:51] <sumguy231> Oh yeah, I'm stupid sometimes. Never mind that request.
[06:51] <drkfce> actually, I just changed it from static to dhcp, and I'm getting a 169.254 address
[06:51] <drkfce> isn't that the default address given when it isn't working?
[06:51] <DaSkreech> drkfce: yeah
[06:52] <DaSkreech> cause you know you need 12 million Ips just to say you are not on the internet
[06:53] <flaccid> if dhclient doesn't get an offer, it will sleep and it usually indicates the dhcp server not responding if network is correctly connected
[06:53] <drkfce> Maybe I can directly connect it from my modem, update the OS, and maybe there will be a fix
[06:54] <drkfce> for me
[06:54] <drkfce> unfortunately, that would boot me off of irc
[06:54] <flaccid> !dos
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <flaccid> !emulator
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emulator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <flaccid> !emulation
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emulation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <flaccid> !info dosbox
[06:55] <ubotu> dosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65-1 (feisty), package size 506 kB, installed size 1388 kB
[06:55] <flaccid> ah sweet
[06:55] <DaSkreech> DrWilcock: Do you read ars?
[06:56] <DaSkreech> Guess now
[06:56] <DaSkreech> not
[07:04] <flaccid> heh dosbox rules
[07:04] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[07:05] <Dr_willis> dosbox is fun. :) that scummvm program is nice also. :)
[07:05] <Dr_willis> Been playing "Sam and Max Hit the Road" all week
[07:05] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:05] <flaccid> !info scummvm
[07:05] <ubotu> scummvm: free implementation of LucasArts' S.C.U.M.M interpreter. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-1 (feisty), package size 1692 kB, installed size 4260 kB
[07:05] <flaccid> hmm
[07:05] <flaccid> yeah im playing commandeer keen series heh
[07:05] <Brad_> Okay... I reinstalled kubuntu... things are looking up, but something is still wrong...
[07:06] <DaSkreech> bradsnet: whazzat?
[07:06] <bradsnet> Hello again doc and flaccid.
[07:06] <bradsnet> Okay, I'm trying to get nvidia-glx working.
[07:07] <bradsnet> Previously I was getting odd errors in Xorg.0.log.... sometimes no errors, crazyness... but now it's more stable.
[07:07] <Dr_willis> what video card exactly?
[07:07] <bradsnet> nvidia geforce 6800 go ultra
[07:07] <bradsnet> Now i've got no errors in the logs.
[07:08] <bradsnet> I used the graphical config to set up xorg.conf... the display settings deal. And it nearly worked. It loaded all the modules that were failing to load before... but still no video.
[07:08] <bradsnet> But I noticed it was saying it was using CRT-0... but I need it to use DFP-0.
[07:09] <bradsnet> There was a screen setting in xorg.conf, so I changed it from 0 to 1... and it said no screens available.
[07:09] <bradsnet> I'm so close I can taste it now, I just need to figure out how to make it want to use my dfp....
[07:09] <Dr_willis> To default to the dfp - i belive theres  some other settings to tweak.
[07:10] <Dr_willis> there are some  example xorg.conf's that have such setups
[07:10] <bradsnet> It doesn't seem to be working with the crt either, but it's trying to set the resoution to 640x480 which I know it doesn't support.
[07:10] <jcs7778> DaSkreech: yep I can execute on debian just fine
[07:11] <DaSkreech> jcs7778: Something may be funkadelic with your shell
[07:11] <bradsnet> So... tell me if this makes sense though, I just went back to my working xorg.conf, the one that works with the nv driver, and all I changed was nv to nvidia... but it still doesn't work? Should it have the right screen settings since it works with the other driver?
[07:12] <Dr_willis> ive seen the 'nvidia' drivers default to the wrong monitor befor.
[07:12] <Dr_willis> it tries to be 'smarter' i guess. :)
[07:12] <bradsnet> Agh! The log still says "Assigned display device: CRT-0"
[07:12] <jcs7778> DaSkreech: well, I don't feel like doing any more tonight so thanks for all the help and putting up with this retarded situation with my shell have a good nigh.
[07:13] <DaSkreech> jcs7778: see you tomorrow
[07:14] <bradsnet> But this time it tried to set the res too high for the crt... prolly because that is what I was using for the dfp.
[07:14] <Dr_willis> Option "UseDisplayDevice" "string" #replace 'string' with either 'DFP' (Digital flat panel connected via DVI port), 'CRT' (any monitor that is connected via VGA ports), or 'TV'
[07:14] <Dr_willis> are you using that option in the xorg.conf?
[07:14] <bradsnet> Hey, just what I was looking for.
[07:15] <Dr_willis> it pays to google/read the guides/wiki pages. :)
[07:15] <bradsnet> No, that may work. I knew someone mentioned a setting like that to me but I couldn't remember.
[07:15] <tekstacy> how is xfce compared to kde?
[07:15] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773584
[07:15] <Dr_willis> tekstacy,  like blogna comapred to steak. :)
[07:15] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: light
[07:15] <Dr_willis> low-fat bologna
[07:15] <bradsnet> I've been working on this problem for over 12 hours and the guides have mostly screwed me over so....
[07:15] <DaSkreech> and again you ask really broad questions :)
[07:16] <Dr_willis> bradsnet,  this is when it pays to read, and learn whats going on. :)
[07:16] <tekstacy> which is the steak?
[07:16] <tekstacy> (haven't tried xfce yet)
[07:16] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: KDE
[07:17] <bradsnet> I've learned heaps more from talking in here than reading any of the forums/wikis/etc... because they mostly expect you to be somewhat psychic. If I don't know what most things are referring to i can't really learn from them.
[07:17] <Dr_willis> xfce would be ok for a low end machine..
[07:17] <DaSkreech> I think that's safe to say
[07:17] <Dr_willis> or if ya want somthing for your wife to use. :)
[07:17] <DaSkreech> Older more mature more specific apps better workflow
[07:17] <tekstacy> ahhh
[07:17] <Dr_willis> little woman got confused by kde.. so i set her up with xfce
[07:18] <DaSkreech> are you serious?
[07:18] <flaccid> bradsnet: ask specific questions here, we will give you specific answers to your questions to help you on the path
[07:18] <DaSkreech> what threw her?
[07:18] <tekstacy> I set my grandmother up with Gnome   (ubuntu)
[07:18] <brian_> I set my grandmother up with garden Gnomes...
[07:18] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  shes not very bright. :)
[07:19] <Dr_willis> and i know better then to say any more.. :)
[07:19] <bradsnet> flaccid: I have been, and I've gotten a ton of good information. It's difficult because I've been working on this so long I can't remember who I've told what, and I certainly don't know what you remember about the issue. I've talked to you about this before, for example.
[07:19] <Dr_willis> of course all she needs is a browser icon, and a  pysol icon.. but she saw all the other stuff...
[07:19] <bradsnet> And holy moly it just worked.
[07:20] <Dr_willis> bradsnet,  remarkable. :)
[07:20] <melkor> How do I kill a program from the terminall window?
[07:20] <Dr_willis> killall programname
[07:20] <Dr_willis> or xkill, then click on the program
[07:20] <Dr_willis> or use 'ps ax | grep programname' get its pid, and use 'kill pid'
[07:20] <Dr_willis> :) or............. hmm lets see...
[07:20] <brian_> Hey flaccid, how did you come by your nick - is it a reflection of your sexual prowess or just your attitude?
[07:21] <adenicio> DaSkreech: i just reinstall feisty 7.04 kubuntu,but i dont see my hdd nor my media storage on my desktop.i created a new folder to see if i can get in in the red folder to the left name root in red there's nothing.is this normal?
[07:21] <josiah> how do you change the resolution in kde?
[07:21] <flaccid>  brian_: grinspoon
[07:21] <melkor> thanks that awesome
[07:21] <DaSkreech> adenicio: Sorry what? You want to mount a hard drive?
[07:22] <bradsnet> josiah: In the system configuration there is a display settings panel you can use.
[07:22] <bradsnet> Dr_willis: Thank you for your help.
[07:22] <tekstacy> ahh, thx Dr_willis
[07:22] <Dr_willis> !info xrand
[07:22] <ubotu> Package xrand does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:22] <Dr_willis> Hmm !find xrand
[07:22] <Dr_willis> !find xrand
[07:22] <ubotu> Found: libxrandr-dev, libxrandr2, libxrandr2-dbg, xrandr
[07:22] <josiah> bradsnet: oh.. lol i was looking in the system window and the whole time it was right in front of me
[07:23] <Dr_willis> Theres some Kde, systray thing that lets ya change the res as needed on the fly,
[07:23] <Dr_willis> !info xrandr
[07:23] <ubotu> xrandr: X Rotation, Reflection and Resize utility. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 60 kB
[07:23] <maryen> hello, would anyone be willing to help me?
[07:23] <brian_> I thought grunge was waaaaaay dead...
[07:23] <flaccid> maryen: yes
[07:23] <DaSkreech> !anyone
[07:23] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:23] <adenicio> DaSkreech: no lol.on my desktop when u install linux im sopose to see my hdd and media storage that look like my computer from xp
[07:23] <maryen> I'm looking for someone to help me test a video feed I'm setting up
[07:23] <DaSkreech> Right
[07:24] <flaccid> maryen: this is support channel for kubuntu
[07:24] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: You know how to do that?
[07:24] <bradsnet> And that sounds fishy anyway.
[07:24] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  do what?  its going on 2 am here.. :)
[07:24] <Dr_willis> !info krandrtray
[07:24] <ubotu> Package krandrtray does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:25] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: get a drive icon on the Desktop
[07:25] <brian_> Does "Dr" stand for doctor Mr. willis or just "derrrrrrr"?
[07:25] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  i just make a soft link from /media/whever to the users desktop
[07:25] <tekstacy> oops
[07:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:25] <Dr_willis> or use the media:/ address in konqueror
[07:25] <Dr_willis> that should show them also
[07:26] <Dr_willis> media:/ shows all mine.
[07:26] <DaSkreech> ok
[07:26] <Dr_willis> isent there a kde settings area thast selects what gets shown on the desktop also?
[07:26] <Dr_willis> I tend to NOT want them there.
[07:26] <DaSkreech> never bothered with Desktop Icons
[07:26] <tekstacy> sorry, what was the command for hdd usage again?
[07:26] <Dr_willis> !find krandrtray
[07:26] <DaSkreech> df -h
[07:26] <tekstacy> er, to check usage
[07:26] <tekstacy> thanks
[07:26] <DaSkreech> du -h
[07:26] <ubotu> File krandrtray found in kcontrol, kdebase-dbg
[07:27] <DaSkreech>  :)
[07:27] <Dr_willis> df -h -x tmpfs -x devpts -x usbfs
[07:27] <Dr_willis> 
[07:27] <Dr_willis> is MY fave. :)
[07:27] <DaSkreech> df tells you free space
[07:27] <DaSkreech>  Du tells you how much you have used
[07:27] <DaSkreech> ducks is my fave
[07:27] <Dr_willis> !find ducks
[07:27] <tekstacy> man df
[07:27] <ubotu> File ducks found in r-cran-boot
[07:27] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: it doesn't exist outside my office i think
[07:27] <tekstacy> :)   time to clip nails....
[07:27] <DaSkreech> hi nikkiana
[07:28] <Dr_willis> use ------> watch 'df -h -x tmpfs -x devpts -x usbfs'    in a little terminal window.
[07:28] <bradsnet> Okay, it's working at a slightly lower res that I know it can support, but it still looks darn good now, and is really FLYING performance wise... so I guess I'm okay with the slightly lower res for the moment.
[07:28] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: does nothing here
[07:29] <Dr_willis> edit the proper mode lines..  Modes           "1024x768"      "800x600"       "640x480"
[07:29] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  should  show the ouitput of the command every 4 sec or so.. a poormans 'drive monitor' applet. :)
[07:29] <brian_> Do all of you command line guys watch the Discovery Channel and get a chuby when the show photos of the glyphs (I do)?
[07:29] <tekstacy> Dr, what should it do.
[07:29] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: yeah but the data is  blank :)
[07:30] <Dr_willis> what data?  its showing mine.
[07:30] <tekstacy> all I see is   >
[07:30] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: ah well
[07:30] <Dr_willis> You did a typo then tekstacy
[07:30] <Dr_willis> and left an open '
[07:30] <bradsnet> The proper mode is definately there, and when I set it I get no errors... just no video.
[07:30] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: You forgot a '
[07:30] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: ducks is a hog hunter
[07:30] <Dr_willis> I used that command/montior ages ago with the 'roottail' stuff that was popular for a while
[07:30] <Dr_willis> !find roottail
[07:30] <DaSkreech> alias of the command du -cks * | sort -rn | head -11
[07:31] <ubotu> Package/file roottail does not exist in feisty
[07:31] <bradsnet> Maybe this is why it wasn't working before... cause it WAS trying that mode... maybe it doesn't support it for some reason and the reason it's working now is because I have the slightly lower mode in there when I didn't before....
[07:31] <tekstacy> ok, what is the fastest way to bring up a terminal window?
[07:31] <Dr_willis> tekstacy,  leave one open all the time. :)
[07:31] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: alt+space -> kon -> <enter>
[07:31] <Dr_willis> !info yakuake
[07:31] <ubotu> yakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 512 kB
[07:31] <Dr_willis> then run   yakuake  and hit F12
[07:31] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: or if you have much sense yakuake
[07:31] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:32] <DaSkreech> then it's F12
[07:32] <DaSkreech> which by the way is 1/4 kg less addicitive than herion
[07:32] <DaSkreech> I keep pressing F12 on gnome and windows and mac :(
[07:32] <DaSkreech> alt+space too
[07:33] <brian_> I'm guessing you've never really used heroin have you?
[07:33] <tekstacy> ahh, the drive usage command is cool.
[07:33] <tekstacy> heroin sucked
[07:33] <DaSkreech> though nothing is drummed into my DNA more than Alt+ctrl+a :-(
[07:33] <brian_> that means you paid for shitty heroin
[07:34] <tekstacy> ok, heroin was good, watching friend turn blue sucked
[07:35] <brian_> forgot to breathe?
[07:35] <tekstacy> something like that I guess.
[07:35] <bradsnet> Dr_willis: Thanks again, I'm off.
[07:36] <tekstacy> He was on coke too.
[07:36] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: >_<
[07:37] <tekstacy> the folly of youth and all that good shit....
[07:37] <brian_> software response lagging means big brother is watching...
[07:37] <Dr_willis> Hmm
[07:37] <Dr_willis> Adding `diversion of /usr/bin/bsetroot to /usr/bin/bsetroot.blackbox by fluxbox'
[07:38] <Dr_willis> wwhat is a 'diversion' in the apt-get installing 'meaning' of the term. :)
[07:38] <Dr_willis> just installed fluxbox and it said that.. never seen that sort of message befor.
[07:38] <brian_> Diet Coke or regular?
[07:38] <tekstacy> :)
[07:39] <tekstacy> I STILL feel gaps in my space-time continum from those days
[07:40] <Dr_willis> travling at the speed of light can do that to ya.
[07:40] <peters_> I'm having a small issue. When I launch Firefox, the little working cursor (bouncy firefox logo) stays there long after firefox is open. How can I get rid of it?
[07:40] <tekstacy> So what about Windows drivers, like for my SIM reader, can they be made to work in linux?
[07:41] <brian_> Just remember:  re-hab is for quitters...
[07:42] <tekstacy> well, most
[07:42] <DaSkreech> !offtopic | tekstacy and brian_
[07:42] <ubotu> tekstacy and brian_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:43] <tekstacy> :
[07:43] <tekstacy> er:   :(  sorry
[07:43] <Dr_willis> simreader?
[07:43] <Dr_willis> That sounds like a Dull Game. :)
[07:43] <Dr_willis> SimWatchingPaintDry
[07:44] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: SimIRCChanSupport
[07:44] <DaSkreech> now with less repeating questions!
[07:44] <tekstacy> SIM cards like from mobile phone
[07:44] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: do you know who made the SimReader?
[07:44] <DaSkreech> !kmobiletools
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmobiletools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <DaSkreech> !info kmobiletools
[07:44] <ubotu> kmobiletools: KDE application for controlling your mobile phone. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.3.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 128 kB, installed size 484 kB
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Might work :)
[07:45] <tekstacy> I got tht just an hour or so ago but haven't set it up yet
[07:45] <brian_> hey there DaSkreech -- you didn't get enough hugs as a child?
[07:46] <DaSkreech> brian_: No I didn't but in any case if you want to keep up the conversation please feel free to do so but do it in #kubuntu-offtopic thank you
[07:47] <brian_> (grin) ok then - I'm hugging you.  At first it feels good.  Then, I tell you about a game called "good touch bad touch" and you tell me that you don't really care about the rules...
[07:48] <peters_> I'm having a small issue. When I launch Firefox, the little working cursor (bouncy firefox logo) stays there long after firefox is open. How can I get rid of it?
[07:48] <DaSkreech> peters_: Totally or just for Firefox?
[07:49] <peters_> DaSkreech, it only happens to firefox.
[07:49] <andresj> peters_, right click it (in the K Menu?) and select Edit. in the dialog uncheck the "Enable launch feedback."
[07:49] <DaSkreech> System settings -> Keyboard and mouse -> mouse -> Visual feedback
[07:49] <mike_moose> Hello?
[07:50] <DaSkreech> G'Bye mate!
[07:50] <peters_> andresj, that was already checked.
[07:50] <peters_> andresj, oops you said uncheck.
[07:50] <andresj> yep
[07:51] <peters_> andresj, thanks that did it.
[07:51] <peters_> One more question for the night. How can I get the trash bin icon back on the desktop?
[07:51] <tekstacy> right click on the panel
[07:51] <tekstacy> then Add Aplet to Panel
[07:52] <andresj> right click on the desktop > Create new > Link to location... ; put trash:// in the URL box and then click on the icon button to select the trash icon if it doesn't appear already.
[07:52] <peters_> thanks
[07:53] <Tidus> quick question.  what's the quick/dirty way to set up a kubuntu machine to act as a NAT router?
[07:54] <tekstacy> crap, sorry, misunderstood question
[07:54] <DaSkreech> gah kNetworkmanager sucks!
[07:54] <Tidus> DaSkreech: yeah, i figured that one out
[07:54] <DaSkreech> !router
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <DaSkreech> !gateway
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gateway - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <Tidus> i had to use iwconfig manually
[07:55] <DaSkreech> hmm
[07:55] <Biovore> Tidus: you cna do a simple nat with a few commands on the cli..
[07:55] <Tidus> Biovore: i'm used to doing it by hand on gentoo
[07:55] <Tidus> but i'm looking for a simple script
[07:55] <tekstacy> well, 02:00 here, goodnight all.
[07:55] <Biovore> Tidus: there is a gui tool called kmyfirewall..
[07:56] <DaSkreech> !firewall
[07:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:56] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: night
[07:56] <tekstacy> Thanks for all the help guys
[07:56] <tekstacy> quit
[07:56] <tekstacy> DAMN, really must clip nails
[07:57] <Tidus> i'll look into that one
[07:57] <Tidus> i remember a debian script that did the job fine
[07:57] <Tidus> but i cant remember what its called
[07:57] <adenicio> DaSkreech: how do i get to the root?
[07:57] <Tidus> adenicio: sudo -i
[07:57] <Biovore> people write little shell scripts that do all kinds of thing.. just google for stuff..
[07:57] <Biovore> the debian on should work on ubuntu.. There basicly the same thing..
[07:57] <LaW> i need some help
[07:58] <brian_> Hey Tidus, I bet you do every thing by
[07:58] <LaW> can someone please help me
[07:58] <Tidus> brian_: ?
[07:58] <DaSkreech> !someone
[07:58] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:58] <brian_> Hey Tidus, I bet you do every thing by "hand" dont' you?
[07:58] <adenicio> Tidus: lol not that.i want to get in my root folder
[07:58] <DaSkreech> adenicio: cd /
[07:59] <Tidus> adenicio: sudo -i then cd ~
[07:59] <herbie> hi! installed kubuntu 7.04 yesterday.. i know, that there is no root password.. so what i must write to login as root? trying to install hplip
[07:59] <Tidus> i'm used to working from shell, not gui
[07:59] <mike_moose> Installing the latest gcc package causes a kernel oops in gutsy for me. What can I do?
[07:59] <LaW> i can't get ubuntu to start i get this error msg about /bin/sh:can't  access tty job control turned off
[08:00] <Tidus> herbie: hplip installed by default
[08:00] <herbie> aa
[08:00] <herbie> ok
[08:00] <herbie> :D
[08:00] <Tidus> !sudo_root > herbie
[08:00] <Tidus> gr...
[08:01] <DaSkreech> !root
[08:01] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:01] <vbgunz> anyone know what happened to libapache2-mod-security ? is it not in any of the feisty repos?
[08:01] <DaSkreech> mike_moose: ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:01] <Tidus> basically, root is disabled, log in as you, then to run commands as root, just prefix the command with 'sudo'
[08:01] <adenicio> Tidus: dont understand.i have to put it in a konsole right?do i have to do that everytime i want to go in my root folder?
[08:02] <LaW> help!
[08:02] <Tidus> adenicio: i'm not quite that familiar with any linux distribution that has root disabled
[08:02] <DaSkreech> !hidden
[08:02] <ubotu> Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[08:02] <LaW> i can't get ubuntu to start i get this error msg about /bin/sh:can't  access tty job control turned off
[08:02] <DaSkreech> LaW: has it ever booted before?
[08:02] <LaW> no
[08:03] <LaW> i have tested the cd for problems it says everything is ok
[08:03] <DaSkreech> sounds like you should reinstall
[08:03] <LaW> how to i do that
[08:03] <LaW> i am new to linuz
[08:03] <LaW> linux*
[08:03] <DaSkreech> LaW: Were you using the system>
[08:03] <DaSkreech> or has it literally never booted
[08:03] <DaSkreech>  oh wait this is the Live CD you are talking about?
[08:04] <LaW> all i did was insert the cd and clicked start ir install unbuntu
[08:04] <LaW> yes
[08:04] <LaW> yes its the live one
[08:04] <DaSkreech> LaW: try the safe graphics mode
[08:04] <LaW> didn't work
[08:04] <DaSkreech> LaW: laptop?
[08:04] <LaW> 2 laptops and a destop didn't work on none
[08:05] <tekstacy> 'lo again
[08:05] <LaW> the desktop is giving me the error that it wrote tho
[08:05] <tekstacy> another question, where in the file system can I find KTorrent?
[08:05] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: go ot bed!
[08:05] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: you want where it's installed?
[08:05] <Tidus> tekstacy: it's in the K menu
[08:05] <Tidus> installed by default
[08:06] <tekstacy> IE: Firefox wants to know where to find the "helper application" (for a torrent)
[08:06] <andresj> tekstacy: and the program itself is /usr/bin/ktorrent
[08:06] <DaSkreech> LaW: Hmm where does it do that
[08:06] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: on the command line type where ktorrent
[08:06] <tekstacy> AH HA! Thank you, now I can start the DL and go to bed
[08:06] <Tidus> Biovore: kmyfirewall is saying firewall not installed, but iptables is there
[08:07] <DaSkreech> LaW: when rather
[08:07] <tekstacy> bash: where: commad not found
[08:07] <LaW> it seems to be loading
[08:07] <LaW> then i get this error
[08:07] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: whereis ?
[08:08] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: which ktorrent should also work
[08:08] <herbie> Tidus: printer works fine! printed test page and its perfect
[08:08] <LaW> its say starting and then i get the process bar and then the next screen is that error
[08:09] <DaSkreech> Can you press alt+Ctrl+F1 and see if there are any other messages?
[08:09] <Tidus> herbie: cool
[08:09] <Tidus> brb
[08:10] <tekstacy> ahh whereis worked.
[08:10] <tekstacy> Thanks guys, this has been a very educational night    :)
[08:11] <tekstacy> goodnight
[08:11] <LaW> i did the alt+ctrl+f1 and its say's loading, please wait...
[08:13] <LaW> i did the alt+ctrl+f1 and its say's loading, please wait...
[08:13] <DaSkreech> That's it?
[08:13] <LaW> yep
[08:13] <DaSkreech> strange
[08:13] <adenicio> Daisuke-Ido: u know when u open a folder to the left there are shortcuts names of folder to tell u where u are?i dont have that
[08:13] <LaW> yeah thats what i was thinking
[08:13] <DaSkreech> normally it would spit a bunch for Kernel info
[08:14] <adenicio> #kubuntu-fr
[08:14] <LaW> on my laptop it get to a but father but then go's to a blank screen and doens't go any father then that i don't get anything on the screen
[08:15] <DaSkreech> what laptop?
[08:15] <LaW> i have an HP
[08:15] <LaW> dv series
[08:15] <DaSkreech> can look at A URL and see if it help
[08:15] <DaSkreech> s
[08:15] <DaSkreech> !laptop
[08:15] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[08:16] <DaSkreech> First Link
[08:16] <tlyoungb> Hi Folks. Well I think I made switch. I got Ubunto running on my Compaq Laptop.
[08:16] <tlyoungb> Works great.
[08:16] <LaW> i really wanna run it on my desktop tho i was just gonna try it on my laptop because it wasn't working on there
[08:17] <Tidus> DaSkreech: you can count kubuntu working on an old pentium2 compaq armada 1750 ...
[08:17] <daniele_> !list
[08:17] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:17] <daniele_> ciao
[08:17] <DaSkreech> LaW: I think that we can get it there but a few steps at a time :)
[08:17] <DaSkreech> LaW: I would try the noapci cheat though
[08:18] <Tidus> with acpi enabled even...
[08:18] <Tidus> works just peachy
[08:18] <Tidus> although i gotta figure out how to disable the automatic suspend
[08:18] <LaW> the boot cheat that the help menu gives
[08:18] <Tidus> since this thing is acting as a wireless bridge for the desktop in the bedroom
[08:18] <LaW> it ain't work for me
[08:19] <Tidus> any help on that one?
[08:20] <arun> is there anything similar to cocoamysql or mysql administrator for ubuntu?
[08:21] <NickPresta> arun, kmysqladmin
[08:22] <LaW> i have a dell c600 and i get a different error on there it tell me [   124.944000]  buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0
[08:23] <DaSkreech> LaW: Means it can't read the Cd
[08:23] <Tidus> LaW: fd0 is the floppy disk ....
[08:23] <DaSkreech> Oh wait yeah it is
[08:25] <arun> NickPresta: thanks. i found that the mysql administrator is in the ubuntu repos as well, but on the mysql website they've only listed tarballs for redhat and suse
[08:26] <arun> does anyone here use gui clients to backup their databases?
[08:26] <adenicio> DaSkreech: my navigation panel is not there.it just got white blank folders
[08:27] <arun> um, i know this is offtopic, but if my hostname is 'localhost', should i enter localhost@domain.ext as my server hostname?
[08:32] <LaW> is there a place where i can download the full version of ubuntu
[08:32] <Tidus> LaW: www.kubuntu.org
[08:33] <hangthedj_server> does anybody know what version of alsa feisty uses?
[08:37] <DaSkreech> !info alsa
[08:37] <ubotu> Package alsa does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:37] <ubuntu> hangthedj_server: 1.0.13
[08:37] <DaSkreech> !find alsa
[08:37] <ubotu> Found: alsa-base, alsa-utils, gstreamer0.10-alsa, libesd-alsa0, libpt-plugins-alsa (and 34 others)
[08:38] <DaSkreech> !info alsa-base
[08:38] <ubotu> alsa-base: ALSA driver configuration files. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.13-3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 163 kB, installed size 344 kB
[08:39] <adenicio> ubotu: how to i modify a picture.i dont see the tools to draw
[08:39] <Karti> Hi all, got a 32 bit install on a 64 bit motherboard, but my USB ports are not recognised. Is there a way to add 64 bit drivers as I need them for my usb wireless and usb hard drive. Thanks in advance
[08:39] <adenicio> DaSkreech:  how to i modify a picture.i dont see the tools to draw
[08:39] <Tidus> !pkginfo gimp
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pkginfo gimp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <Tidus> gr.
[08:40] <pag> !info gimp | Tidus
[08:40] <ubotu> tidus: gimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.13-1ubuntu4.3 (feisty), package size 2901 kB, installed size 7920 kB
[08:40] <Tidus> that works
[08:40] <Tidus> !info gimp | adenicio
[08:40] <ubotu> adenicio: gimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.13-1ubuntu4.3 (feisty), package size 2901 kB, installed size 7920 kB
[08:41] <ubuntu> !info krita | adenicio
[08:41] <ubotu> adenicio: krita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu1.1 (feisty), package size 3043 kB, installed size 9412 kB
[08:42] <DaSkreech> adenicio: krita works nicely
[08:42] <DaSkreech> adenicio: alt+space -> krita -> <enter>
[08:43] <adenicio> DaSkreech:  ubuntu:  i dont see gimp neither krita
[08:43] <DaSkreech> adenicio: Oh my apologies
[08:43] <DaSkreech> adenicio: I'm sorry how familar are you with Linux/kubuntu ?
[08:44] <adenicio> DaSkreech: good enought to know about the alt+space
[08:44] <DaSkreech> adenicio: :-)
[08:44] <DaSkreech> so you know how to install krita?
[08:45] <adenicio> DaSkreech: i tink kubuntu was install bad.i dont even see my navigation pannel.and my media in the pannel
[08:45] <DaSkreech> adenicio: press F9
[08:46] <adenicio> DaSkreech: krita doesnt come with kubuntu 7.04?for the moment im upgrading so i cant install anything
[08:47] <DaSkreech> adenicio: apparently not I installed it so long ago I thought it was by default silly me
[08:47] <DaSkreech> adenicio: It's part of the KDE Office Suite which I use instead of OO.o
[08:47] <adenicio> DaSkreech: f9 hides the navigation panel it's not that the prob.it's whats sopose to be in it not there.how can i send u a picture to see?
[08:48] <DaSkreech> tinypic ?
[08:48] <DaSkreech> .com
[08:52] <adenicio> DaSkreech: the upload is takin long
[08:52] <DaSkreech> adenicio: ok
[08:52] <DaSkreech> yuo are the last thing on my help list for tonight
[08:54] <DaSkreech> adenicio: If I am not mistaken you can use OO.o draw to do pics as well
[08:54] <adenicio> DaSkreech: lol i didnt see what time it is lol it just that my xp gone bad then i need linux to corect it but linux went bad so i reinstall linux now it look like it install bad
[08:55] <DaSkreech> adenicio: just mount the drive manually
[08:55] <prak> Biovore: are you there
[08:56] <adenicio> DaSkreech: MOUNTing the drives is not the problem.my problem with xp when i get to the desktop 20second after it sticks and hardly moves
[08:56] <DaSkreech> adenicio: Sounds driverish
[08:57] <DaSkreech> adenicio: does the same in safe mode?
[08:57] <adenicio> DaSkreech: but i had to reinstall linux because of a problem i had going for 4 days.i could install anything with adept,or apt-get install
[08:57] <DaSkreech> >_<
[08:57] <adenicio> DaSkreech: i cant get in the safe mode
[08:58] <DaSkreech> ##windows
[08:58] <adenicio> DaSkreech: the upload for the picture is taking to long how can i shore u another way?
[08:59] <adenicio> file:///home/adenicio/Desktop/snapshot1.png
[08:59] <adenicio> lol
[08:59] <DaSkreech> Yeah that'll work :)
[09:01] <adenicio> DaSkreech: what will work
[09:01] <DaSkreech> the file:/// link
[09:02] <adenicio> DaSkreech: and how are u sopose to get there to see the pic?
[09:02] <DaSkreech> I can't
[09:02] <DaSkreech> :-)
[09:02] <DaSkreech> that's why it MUST work
[09:03] <DaSkreech> hi ompaul
[09:03] <adenicio> lol
[09:03] <DaSkreech> adenicio: So other than your reinstall anything pressing?
[09:04] <ompaul> morning
[09:05] <adenicio> DaSkreech: check see if u cant see my pic http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4yirllf if u can u will have to zoom in
[09:06] <DaSkreech> adenicio: the images at the side?
[09:06] <adenicio> DaSkreech: the navigation pannel id there but it look corupt
[09:07] <DaSkreech> Yeah just needs to find the right images
[09:07] <DaSkreech> the reinstall should groovy that up
[09:07] <raynerd> anyone know how I can convert a jpeg to png
[09:07] <raynerd> ?
[09:07] <DaSkreech> if not just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:08] <adenicio> DaSkreech: on the side?its white with circles look like kubuntu logo
[09:08] <adenicio> DaSkreech: try this http://tinypic.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i13.tinypic.com/4yirllf.png" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a>
[09:08] <adenicio> DaSkreech: the png
[09:08] <DaSkreech> Yeah I'm looking at it
[09:09] <adenicio> to the left got just blank files
[09:09] <DaSkreech> Yeah sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop should fix hat
[09:09] <DaSkreech> that
[09:11] <adenicio> DaSkreech: ok i'll try that after the upgrade thing finish.just one thing befor u go
[09:13] <DaSkreech> adenicio: sure
[09:13] <adenicio> DaSkreech: isnt there a way to see what your cd havec got true to install?because the first time i buy the cd with a book i check for default on the cd it had none.i check 1hour ago it told me it didnt get true to check 460 stuff
[09:14] <DaSkreech> what
[09:14] <DaSkreech> the Kubuntu Cd has a sefl check if that's what you mean
[09:14] <adenicio> DaSkreech: sorry for my bad english im not that good at riten
[09:14] <DaSkreech> adenicio: what do you mean have got true to install?
[09:15] <adenicio> DaSkreech: i want to know what all my cd didnt get true to install
[09:15] <adenicio> DaSkreech: if possible
[09:15] <DaSkreech> adenicio: Umm not sure
[09:16] <DaSkreech> but I know that if you apt-get install kubuntu-desktop it will install all you need
[09:16] <hangthedj_server> if the channel #bash for the Born again shell?
[09:16] <DaSkreech> adenicio: If you have an alternate CD it helps the upgrade stuff much faster
[09:16] <DaSkreech> hangthedj_server: Yes it is
[09:16] <hangthedj_server> thanks ;)
[09:16] <adenicio> DaSkreech: ok
[09:17] <DaSkreech> night!
[09:17] <DaSkreech> !windows | adenicio
[09:17] <ubotu> adenicio: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[09:17] <DaSkreech> That chan should help
[09:18] <hangthedj_server> does anyone know how to get the console to not blank?
[09:18] <adenicio> DaSkreech: ok tanks
[09:19] <adenicio> DaSkreech:
[09:20] <adenicio> DaSkreech: where can i download the lates kubuntu and how big it is?
[09:21] <DaSkreech> adenicio: http://kubuntu.org
[09:21] <DaSkreech> One Cd
[09:21] <DaSkreech> 700 Megs
[09:21] <DaSkreech> 698
[09:21] <DaSkreech> but who is counting?
[09:21] <adenicio> DaSkreech: ok i taugh it was like 3go or something :-p
[09:22] <DaSkreech> naw :)
[09:22] <adenicio> DaSkreech: and how can i copy the iso to a cd on linux?
[09:22] <DaSkreech> !iso
[09:22] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[09:23] <DaSkreech> adenicio: in KDE use K3B
[09:23] <kkathman> compiz-kde: Depends: libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig but it is not installable
[09:23] <kkathman> E: Broken packages
[09:23] <kkathman> anyone know the reason for this when in stalling compiz ?
[09:23] <kkathman> I followed the wiki
[09:23] <adenicio> ok
[09:24] <kkathman> or at least this wiki:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[09:24] <hangthedj_server> !effects
[09:24] <ubotu> For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[09:24] <DaSkreech> kkathman: ask in #ubuntu-effects
[09:24] <kkathman> ok
[09:24] <hangthedj_server> kkathman: i only say that, cause i don't have a clue.
[09:24] <hangthedj_server> ;)
[09:25] <JCDG> 26031987
[09:26] <kkathman> eh as I suspected no answer :(
[09:27] <hangthedj_server> kkathman: go to #compiz-fusion and tell them beryl is way better.
[09:27] <kkathman> lol
[09:27] <kkathman> probably true
[09:28] <kkathman> I guess I'll go back to beryl then :(
[09:28] <blekos> hi, if I'm nt mistaken linux used to have smg like a database to increase search. This database could be updated by the user
[09:29] <blekos> any ideas what i'm talking about>
[09:29] <blekos> ?
[09:30] <Tcsdomain> huh? beryl is still better?
[09:30] <Tcsdomain> oh mans
[09:30] <adenicio> blekos: no speek spanish to see lol
[09:30] <redfive> does compiz fuzion have emeerald themes like beryl does?
[09:30] <adenicio> redfive: maybe
[09:31] <redfive> maybe?
[09:31] <blekos> hahahaha
[09:31] <redfive> i know beryl, not sure on compiz fuzion
[09:34] <adenicio> Daisuke-Ido: i dont understand this thing with cd 1,2,3,4 gusty etc.i just want  kubuntu-feisty later than 7.04 beta. what is gusty?
[09:34] <adenicio> http://kubuntu.org/
[09:35] <pag> !gutsy | adenicio
[09:35] <ubotu> adenicio: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:36] <hangthedj_server> compiz fusion is still kinda buggy, i'm constantly trying to get it to work again.
[09:36] <adenicio> pag: is it like kubuntu feisty?
[09:36] <hangthedj_server> although, compiz is much prettier.
[09:37] <adenicio> !feisty
[09:37] <ubotu> Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[09:37] <pag> adenicio, it's newer and far less stable... You should download Feisty
[09:38] <redfive> i could get beryl working no problem
[09:38] <adenicio> pag: i bought the cd kubuntu 7.04 beta is there anymore that came out after that that i can download.i dont want ubuntu
[09:39] <redfive> and i caint find emerald theme manager in compiz fuzion
[09:39] <pag> adenicio, http://kubuntu.org/download.php#latest
[09:40] <hangthedj_server> redfive: you have to install emerald and use the emerald theme manager.
[09:41] <Tcsdomain> hi, does anyone know which driver works best for an ati radeon 9600 xt? thanks.
[09:42] <adenicio> pag: how big is the dvd's and whats the differents if i choose cd or dvd?does it comes with less things or it only come with more language?
[09:43] <pag> adenicio, I've never used DVD... I guess it has more packages, and it can be used as local repo...
[09:43] <Biovore> Tcsdomain: none..  ATI's binary driver comes the closest.. but it sucks hard still..
[09:43] <adenicio> pag: the kubuntu i have is 4.7gig's
[09:43] <adenicio> pag: does the cd version can do a cd-live?
 can you explain? how do you install emerarld after compiz fuzion?
[09:44] <hangthedj_server> redfive, what repository are you using?
[09:44] <clau85> hello. which is the mixer device in kubuntu. and what is the software mixer. asking because I can't control volume with tvtime (I selected /dev/mixer as the mixer)
[09:44] <pag> adenicio, there are live-cd verison (which contains an installer too) and alternate version, which is text-based installation cd
[09:45] <pag> adenicio, they both are around 700MB in size
[09:46] <redfive> hangthedj_server i havent started yet
[09:46] <Tcsdomain> Biovore: so that means I don't have much of a choice but to switch video cards? also, the opensource drivers worked once before with tis card, but that was with a different motherboard. now they freeze before Kubuntu finishes loading. thanks anyway
[09:46] <hangthedj_server> redfive, what distro?
[09:46] <redfive> feisty
[09:46] <redfive> amd64
[09:47] <hangthedj_server> i've heard download.tuxfamily.org has a repository for fusion thats pretty good.
[09:47] <hangthedj_server> in gutsy, you can install fusion in the default repositories.
[09:47] <redfive> wow, these repos are everywhere
[09:47] <hangthedj_server> but fusion is far from stable.
[09:47] <redfive> every guide says to use a different one
[09:47] <adenicio> pag: can the cd do the option cd-live? if there both 700 why my kubuntu is 4.7gigs?
[09:48] <maverick> any one knows of places where i can know how to customize my kde taskbar panel ...i'd like to make it a lot like gnome's one...??
[09:48] <hangthedj_server> i don't know of any different ones.
[09:49] <pag> adenicio, livecd has a live session - yes. 4.7GB: is that installed size or the DVD?
[09:50] <adenicio> pag: i tink its just the dvd
[09:51] <adenicio> pag: but im lookin in the dvd and its like it have nothing
[09:52] <pag> adenicio, I'm not familiar with *buntu DVD-versions..
[09:52] <adenicio> pag: when u upgrade does it install like a new version of kubuntu?
[09:53] <pag> adenicio, if you upgrade, your system will be upgraded to most recent (stable) version
[09:54] <adenicio> pag: ok
[09:55] <adenicio> pag: and update is for what is install like amarok etc?
[09:56] <pag> adenicio, pardon?
[09:56] <adenicio> lol
[09:56] <adenicio> pag: and update is for what is install like amarok etc?
[09:57] <adenicio> pag: and update is to update amarok etc
[09:57] <pag> adenicio, it upgrades all installed packages, if that's what you mean..
[09:58] <adenicio> pag: no i mean the updates
[09:58] <adenicio> not upgrade
[09:59] <pag> adenicio, sorry, I don't understand the question then.
[10:00] <adenicio> lol is my english that suck lol
[10:00] <adenicio> !ohmy
[10:00] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:00] <adenicio> lol
[10:01] <clau85> hello. which is the mixer device in kubuntu. and what is the software mixer. asking because I can't control volume with tvtime (I selected /dev/mixer as the mixer)
[10:03] <Cyprene> Hihi! My kubuntu seems to have um, broken. >_>
[10:03] <Biovore> clau85: the volume control for the tv might be on another channel and not pcm or master..
[10:04] <clau85> and what can I do then?
[10:05] <GoodHabit> Cyprene, how broken? What he does now? Where is error?
[10:05] <Cyprene> The program crashed, and when I restarted and logged in no programs will load.  Not even konqueror or a terminal.  When I run in failsafe mode I can run programs, though.
[10:06] <Cyprene> erm, logged into KDE
[10:06] <word> Cyprene: "The program crashed" which program?
[10:07] <Cyprene> Erm, the whole system crashed, sorry.  I was unraring a file and it failed because it ran out of disk space, and then all the programs I was running went unresponsive.
[10:08] <word> oo
[10:08] <word> i'm surprised the x server starts
[10:08] <word> Cyprene: can you boot into kde at all?
[10:09] <Cyprene> I can, yeah.  It boots OK.  The sound icon and the knetworker manager icon come up
[10:09] <Cyprene> *knetwork manager
[10:09] <word> Cyprene: many programs in order to work need to write to files ect. when there isn't enough space to do it, they freak out...apparently the one where X server wouldn't boot when it didn't have enough space has been fixed though hehe.
[10:10] <Cyprene> I booted into failsafe and rm'd a bunch of old AVIs.
[10:10] <word> Cyprene: since then does it boot correctly?
[10:10] <Cyprene> lemme try again
[10:11] <Cyprene> It looks like it didn't. :(
[10:12] <Cyprene> Is there a unix command to tell how much free space I've got on my drive?
[10:12] <Jucato> df -h
[10:12] <Cyprene> thx
[10:12] <Jucato> although that lists per partition (mounted)
[10:13] <Cyprene> rm wipes a file totally right? It doesn't move it to a trash folder somewhere?
[10:13] <word> Cyprene: another thing that may have happened, while it was writing it stopped suddenly and your disk might have errors on it :-/
[10:13] <Jucato> Cyprene: yep. totally gone
[10:13] <word> rm erases completely (and doesn't leave crap behind like windows *cough*)
[10:14] <Cyprene> I can check using... what's the program? fsck?
[10:14] <Cyprene> right?
[10:14] <word> yup
[10:14] <word> or you can reboot until the 20time check kicks in
[10:14] <Cyprene> yeah its still got 2.5 gigs free
[10:14] <Cyprene> Let me try upping that a little, that's not very much
[10:14] <word> it's more than enough
[10:15] <word> either reboot a bunch, or go into recovery console..i'm pretty sure it doesn't mount any partitions then..so then you can fsck the drive
[10:15] <Jucato> I thought it was 30 times?
[10:15] <zorg_the_false> the partition is the root one ?
[10:15] <Cyprene> how do I get into a recovery console?
[10:16] <Jucato> actually it's not the number of reboots that is counted. it's the number of times the partition is mounted
[10:16] <adenicio> pag: when i install linux my navigation pannel is there but with blank white folders.how do i get back the pannel?i tyr sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop nothing.it maybe when i was playing in the option etc i maybe deactivate it.if it does have that option do you know where i can find it?
[10:16] <word> it's an option in grub
[10:16] <pag> adenicio, sorry, I don't know.
[10:16] <word> Cyprene: if it's just the times it's been mounted...repeat the command mount *drive* && umount *drive* a bunch..that is if recovery console doesn't mount any partitions
[10:16] <zorg_the_false> the amount of mount before forcing a fsk is tunable by "tune2fs -c myamount" and default to 30
[10:17] <word> otherwise you'll have to get a live cd like knoppmyth..which i've always had trouble with detecting x server settings..
[10:18] <zorg_the_false> why not umount + fsck ?
[10:18] <Cyprene> so if I type tune2fs -c 1
[10:18] <Cyprene> well, lemme try that
[10:18] <zorg_the_false> :)
[10:18] <zorg_the_false> you will get a LOT of fsck if you keep it :)
[10:18] <word> Cyprene: in the meantime..when you say programs don't run..do you mean they never start? also..can you get into a terminal and see if there's any debug output when they run?
[10:19] <Cyprene> They never start. NOTHING starts.  Konquerer windows won't open.  I can't get into a terminal because terminal doesn't start.
[10:19] <word> zorg_the_false: it's the partition he's booting off of umount wouldnt work :P
[10:19] <zorg_the_false> word: ah ok :)
[10:19] <word> Cyprene: tried starting something in virtual terminal?
[10:19] <mm_202> Good morning guys, quick question.
[10:19] <mm_202> Is there a way to save the current directory that your in, then cd somewhere else, then go back to the original one?
[10:20] <Cyprene> I've booted into failsafe mode and started programs from there, they work fine.
[10:20] <word> mm_202: up arrow to the earlier command? o.O
[10:20] <zorg_the_false> mm_202: use "cd -"
[10:20] <word> Cyprene: fail safe mode is probably different somehow o.O
[10:20] <zorg_the_false> mm_202: try "pwd; cd /tmp; pwd; cd -; pwd"
[10:20] <word> Cyprene: just when you start up normal, go to ctrl+alt+f1 log in, and try running a command line based app
[10:21] <Cyprene> like what, vi?
[10:21] <NickPresta> Cyprene, vim, nano, etc
[10:21] <Cyprene> ok
[10:22] <adenicio> pag: u know any virus scanner for linux that can scan windows too?
[10:22] <NickPresta> !virus | adenicio
[10:22] <ubotu> adenicio: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[10:22] <mm_202> zorg_the_false: thank you.  Let me test that real quick :)
[10:22] <NickPresta> adenicio, for scanning Windows, try ClamAV
[10:22] <Cyprene> Starts just fine
[10:23] <Cyprene> I'm getting some error about bcm43 microcode, but that's been there forever.
[10:23] <maverick> does anyone know of a good linux monitor
[10:23] <mm_202> zorg_the_false: works perfectly!  Thank you!
[10:23] <maverick> something simple clear and displays on desktop
[10:23] <maverick> ?
[10:23] <zorg_the_false> mm_202: my pleasure :)
[10:23] <mm_202> Does 'cd' have any other commands, it doesnt have a man page..
[10:23] <NickPresta> mm_202, cd = change directory
[10:24] <zorg_the_false> mm_202: use "help cd"
[10:24] <adenicio> NickPresta: ok
[10:24] <zorg_the_false> mm_202: cd is builtin bash, this is a not a 'usual tool'
[10:24] <mm_202> ah, I see.  Okay, that makes sense.
[10:24] <zorg_the_false> and cd - is not in the help :)))))))
[10:24] <Cyprene> Yeah, it runs perfectly.  So I guess it's some problem with kde?
[10:25] <zorg_the_false> moauaou you got to know magic :)
[10:26] <mm_202> zorg_the_false: yes, I noticed that.  but cd - will save me lots of typing now :)
[10:27] <zorg_the_false> cool
[10:28] <Cyprene> I guess if I can find out how to run knetworkmanager from a terminal, I can run it in failsafe mode
[10:28] <Cyprene> kind of a pain in the butt. >_>
[10:28] <Cyprene> but it'll run
[10:31] <zorg_the_false> btw anybody got an idea on how to make my computer reboot when i press the 'reset button' on my laptop ? if was working on edgy, but on feisty i got a logout window popping up instead
[10:32] <mm_202> zorg_the_false: apt-get hotkeys should do the trick
[10:32] <mm_202> Let me check and make sure thats the one you want
[10:32] <zorg_the_false> ok looking
[10:34] <mm_202> Yeah, that should do the trick.
[10:36] <zorg_the_false> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuLaptopButtons <- they show a
[10:36] <zorg_the_false> 
[10:36] <zorg_the_false> XF86PowerOff
[10:37] <zorg_the_false> mm_202: do you know how i can findout which event is sent when i press this button
[10:38] <word> Cyprene: i'd reccomend trying to do fsck from a knoppix live cd
[10:38] <mm_202> zorg_the_false: yeah, one min and I'll find it
[10:38] <word> Cyprene: also to backup really important files just in case
[10:38] <zorg_the_false> mm_202: ok :)
[10:38] <Cyprene> thanks
[10:38] <Cyprene> Given how well everything else seems to be running...
[10:39] <Cyprene> I'll just deal
[10:39] <Cyprene> lol
[10:41] <mm_202> zorg_the_false: run xev from a console window, then just focus on the window that pops up and hit whatever keys you want and the console will give you all the info.
[10:42] <word> Cyprene: heh, at least until gutsy comes out eh? ;)
[10:43] <Cyprene> Yeah I guess so.  How much longer on that?
[10:44] <zorglu_> mm_202: ok i pressed a bit too hard on it :)
[10:44] <zorglu_> running xev now :)
[10:44] <word> Cyprene: sometime in october i believe
[10:45] <Cyprene> nice
[10:45] <mm_202> zorglu_: lol, okay, I was wondering what you did :)
[10:52] <zorglu_> mm_202: hotkeys seems more for special keyboard keys, like volumeup, email etc..., no ?
[10:52] <zorglu_> mm_202: i cant find anything related to XF86PowerOff which is the key code triggered when i press the reset button
[10:52] <zorglu_> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuPowerManagement <- this page says it is handled by kubuntupowermanager
[10:53] <zorglu_> no idea what is this :)
[10:53] <mm_202> zorglu_: lol, hotkeys _should_ handle it.  But it depends on how the laptop has the reset button wired.
[10:53] <mm_202> What kind of laptop is it?
[10:54] <hangthedj_server> zorglu_: i think its handled now by kmilo
[10:55] <hangthedj_server> the problem is kmilo doesn't support very many laptops, so it puts you in generic.
[10:55] <zorglu_> mm_202: this is a sony viao but i dont think it matter
[10:55] <hangthedj_server> !find kmilo
[10:55] <zorglu_> hangthedj_server: all was working ok in edgy, and even with feisty, the poweroff works ok from kdm (but not once logged)
[10:56] <ubotu> Found: kmilo, kmilo-legacy
[10:56] <zorglu_> i bet on a bug :)
[10:56] <hangthedj_server> !info kmilo
[10:56] <ubotu> kmilo: laptop special keys support for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 64 kB, installed size 240 kB
[10:56] <zorglu_> ok will look kmillo
[10:56] <mm_202> zorglu_: most laptops that Ive seen dont even have a reset button.  Sorry for steering you down the wrong path, thats what worked for me.
[10:57] <mm_202> Hopefully hangthedj_server's suggestions will help.
[10:57] <zorglu_>     state 0x0, keycode 222 (keysym 0x1008ff2a, XF86PowerOff), same_screen YES, <- and now i get a symbol for it :)
[10:57] <mm_202> lol, is that good or bad?
[10:57] <zorglu_> mm_202: no problem. by reset button, i meant pressing the poweroff button during a small amount of time
[10:58] <zorglu_> mm_202: it is more readable :)
[10:58] <zorglu_> ! jme- to get a symbol for my sony viao reset button
[10:58] <zorglu_> keycode 222 = XF86PowerOff
[10:58] <zorglu_> i had to put that in ~/.xmodmap
[10:58] <zorglu_> notive the "!" :) they didnt want to use the usual # i guess :)
[10:59] <zorglu_> ok kmilo time :)
[10:59] <hangthedj_server> zorglu_: i think if you install kmilo-legacy it will add a vaio option in the control center
[10:59] <hangthedj_server> !info kmilo-legacy
[10:59] <ubotu> kmilo-legacy: non-standard plugins for KMilo. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 110 kB, installed size 404 kB
[11:00] <zorglu_> kmilo doesnt have any executable
[11:01] <zorglu_> and i already had it installed
[11:01] <zorglu_> how do i run it ? :)
[11:01] <hangthedj_server> its not a program, its a .so library.
[11:02] <hangthedj_server> if you install the kmilo-legacy, and go to the kde control center, i think you should have a sony option
[11:02] <hangthedj_server> i have one, and i have a toshiba laptop
[11:02] <zorglu_> ok trying :)
[11:03] <mm_202> zorglu_: Good luck with that, its 4:02a for me, so Im going to go to bed.  Thanks again for the cd - :)
[11:03] <zorglu_> :)
[11:06] <salvatore_> hi all
[11:06] <salvatore_> I have a svcd. Can I convert it to divx/xvid?
[11:07] <radek> hi everybody, may I ask you about pinning under kubuntu?
[11:07] <zorglu_> what is pinning ?
[11:08] <Jucato> pinning a specific package to a specific version?
[11:12] <zorglu_> mouaouaoua
[11:12] <zorglu_> i hate them
[11:12] <zorglu_> all without exception
[11:12] <zorglu_> now i even get 2 popup
[11:16] <hangthedj_server> zorglu_: sorry i missed what you said before mouaouaoua
[11:31] <zorglu_> q. when i press the laptop 'shutdown' button for a short amount of time, i get a popup of a logout window, when i cancel, i get *another* one. i would like to get 0 logout window (and shutdown the box) or only one, any hint ?
[11:31] <zorglu_> grumble
[11:34] <anthronaut> zorglu: why don't you shut down from the console?
[11:36] <zorglu_> anthronaut: in fact, the 'use case' is 'i launch a movie at night, fall asleep before it, wake up later in the middle of the night, and wish to shutdown the box'
[11:36] <zorglu_> anthronaut: one popup is already painfull when halfasleep, imagine cmdline :)
[11:36] <vbgunz> zorglu_: what happens if you keep holding it down (hard boot)?
[11:37] <anthronaut> zorglu_ yes, you've got a point there ;-)
[11:37] <zorglu_> vbgunz: this is like pulling the plug, aka no state saving. risk of file loss, funky state in open apps etc...
[11:38] <vbgunz> yeah, I understand, what then are you trying to do? hibernate or suspend it?
[11:38] <zorglu_> more like shutdown but properly
[11:39] <vbgunz> zorglu_: man shutdown
[11:39] <zorglu_> i had only one popup until i tried to fix it this morning :)
[11:39] <zorglu_> vbgunz: :))
[11:39] <vbgunz> perhaps create a script.sh file, set up a shortcut to it and try that :)
[11:40] <zorglu_> vbgunz: wanna bet they dont talk about XFpoweroff ? :)
[11:40] <vbgunz> not sure what that is :/
[11:40] <zorglu_> ok while im at breaking my conf i will upgrade package
[11:40] <zorglu_> vbgunz: this is the X event which is triggered when i press the 'poweroff' button of my laptop for a short moment
[11:41] <zorglu_> the one the logout window intercept, i dunno how :)
[11:41] <vbgunz> ahh
[11:41] <vbgunz> looking through man, I think you want shutdown -P
[11:41] <vbgunz> shuts down cleanly then powers off
[11:41] <zorglu_> yep but how do i do that from the poweroff button of my laptop
[11:42] <vbgunz> maybe find out how to change that shortcut, its probably considered a button like all the rest
[11:42] <vbgunz> interesting question though, I never thought about it
[11:42] <zorglu_> fix it and tell me ? :)
[11:43] <vbgunz> heh
[11:49] <zorglu_> ok i give up and decide it will be fixed on the next upgrade
[11:49] <zorglu_> which i will do as a from scratch install
[11:49] <keet> hello
[11:49] <keet> je tu njak ech?
[11:49] <zorglu_> !ch
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <zorglu_> keet: this is a english channel, what is the country code of your language ? e.g. !fr or !de
[11:50] <anthronaut> !cz
[11:50] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[11:50] <zorglu_> ok :)
[11:51] <keet> thanx
[11:51] <anthronaut> prosm
[11:59] <emilsedgh> anyone knows a game similiar to 'The Age of Empires' in GNU/Linux? Im really miss it...
[12:00] <Jucato> !info freeciv
[12:00] <ubotu> Package freeciv does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:00] <Jucato> bay...
[12:01] <stian> ;)
[12:01] <emilsedgh> Jucato: thanks
[12:01] <Jucato> !info freeciv-client
[12:01] <ubotu> Package freeciv-client does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:01] <Cyprene> That's odd, I know I remembered seeing it there.
[12:01] <Jucato> er sorry. just look for freeciv hehehe
[12:01] <Jucato> yeah it's there
[12:02] <ymsg> ubotu  french room
[12:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about french room - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <Jucato> I just didn't use the correct name
[12:02] <ymsg> pls
[12:02] <Jucato> !fr | ymsg
[12:02] <ubotu> ymsg: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:02] <ymsg> ty
[12:02] <emilsedgh> Jucato: thats turn based!
[12:02] <Jucato> oh yeah.. hm.. dunno of anything else :(
[12:02] <Jucato> !games
[12:02] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[12:02] <mcquaid> i remember kde having an option to change screen resolution in control panel.  I don't seem to have that
[12:02] <mcquaid> is there a pkg I could be missing?
[12:03] <Jucato> mcquaid: nothing in System Settings -> Monitor & Display?
[12:03] <mcquaid> no i don't have that
[12:03] <emilsedgh> mcquaid: system settings->Peripherals->Display
[12:03] <Jucato> mcquaid: you might be missing "kde-guidance"
[12:03] <Jucato> emilsedgh: you're mixing KControl and System Settings
[12:04] <mcquaid> hmm i have guidance
[12:04] <Jucato> mcquaid: you're sure you're using System Settings (and not KControl)?
[12:04] <Jucato> if you're looking at KControl, emilsedgh's directions are correct
[12:04] <emilsedgh> Jucato: ya, sorry
[12:04] <mcquaid> sorry i am in kde control center
[12:05] <Jucato> heh
[12:05] <Jucato> KControl -> Peripherals -> DIsplay
[12:05] <emilsedgh> mcquaid: run kcmshell displayconfig
[12:05] <Jucato> actually, "displayconfig" is enough :)
[12:06] <mcquaid> ok thx there it is.  But I don't see anywhere to actually get here from the menus
[12:07] <Jucato> mcquaid: because Kubuntu uses System Settings, not KControl, by default. so it's K Menu -> System Settings
[12:07] <Jucato> then in System Settings -> Monitor & Display
[12:07] <emilsedgh> I think they both should be removed, Settings:/ KIO slave is the best!
[12:08] <Jucato> kcontrol will be gone in KDE 4 anyway
[12:08] <mcquaid> hmm, i don't have monitor & display
[12:08] <Jucato> mcquaid: would it be possible for you to upload a screenshot somewhere?
[12:08] <mcquaid> ok one sec
[12:13] <mcquaid> Jucato, http://www.mediafire.com/?5vpfyte9mii
[12:14] <Jucato> ok hold on a sec
[12:14] <mcquaid> k
[12:15] <Jucato> mcquaid: that's because you are using KControl, not System Settings. they are 2 slightly different things. System Settings is the one that Kubuntu uses by default and it's in the K Menu
[12:15] <mcquaid> ok what package provides system settings?
[12:15] <Jucato> KControl and System Settings use different groupings for settings.
[12:15] <Jucato> er.. are you using Kubuntu?
[12:15] <mcquaid> yes
[12:16] <Jucato> then System Settings is already there. it's installed by default
[12:16] <Jucato> (presuming you made a default Kubuntu installation
[12:16] <mcquaid> i didn't outright install kde-desktop, tried a minimal approach of installing and might have missed some kde components
[12:16] <mcquaid> a lot of the extras kde-desktop installs, i didn't want
[12:17] <Jucato> if you're more comfortable using KControl then use that instead.
[12:17] <Jucato> in KControl the settings for Display would be under the Peripherals group
[12:17] <mcquaid> sigh... it's there....
[12:17] <mcquaid> doh
[12:17] <Jucato> ...
[12:18] <mcquaid> but i do recall now the other style 'system settings'
[12:18] <mcquaid> i think that's what threw me off
[12:18] <Jucato> the app is "kde-systemsettings" in the package manager
[12:19] <mcquaid> bingo, i didn't have that, thx
[12:19] <mcquaid> hmm, just tried to change the res, didn't work though (as admin)
[12:19] <Jucato> you wouldn't really have that if you installed a minimal kde installation.
[12:20] <mcquaid> yeah, i've noticed i was missing a few things along the way,  just been installing as needed
[12:22] <mcquaid> thx again
[12:23] <Jucato> sure
[12:23] <owl> hi
[12:23] <emilsedgh> guys, is there any kubuntu development channel? I want to suggest that KMilo's Skin patch goes into 7.10...
[12:23] <Jucato> emilsedgh: #kubuntu-devel but it's a Sunday so..
[12:23] <emilsedgh> thanks Jucato
[12:24] <Jucato> don't expect to get much answer today though :P
[12:28] <enry> hi
[12:32] <Jucato> emilsedgh: this seems to be the only patch that was included in kmilo for gutsy: http://blog.guillermoamaral.com/2007/04/14/patch-kde-kmilo-compact-dialog/
[12:33] <emilsedgh> Jucato: ah, Thanks God! :P
[12:34] <Jucato> was that the one you were looking for?
[12:34] <emilsedgh> Jucato: is it applied in gutsy?
[12:34] <emilsedgh> Jucato: exaclty! just I find it on kde-apps
[12:34] <Jucato> according to http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/k/kdeutils/kdeutils_3.5.7-1ubuntu4/changelog it has been since May
[12:34] <Jucato> although I can't test it really
[12:34] <emilsedgh> Jucato: there was a kubuntu package for it in comments, but is server were down
[12:35] <Jucato> let me double check
[12:35] <emilsedgh> Jucato: do you run Gutsy?
[12:36] <Jucato> yep
[12:36] <Jucato> I just check the changelogs
[12:36] <Jucato> I can't check if it works since I'm not on laptop
[12:36] <Jucato> and my laptop isn't a thinkpad
[12:37] <Jucato> (nor does it have volume up/down buttons)
[12:37] <emilsedgh> Jucato: try this (please): dcop kded kmilod displayText Hello
[12:38] <Jucato> small one
[12:38] <Jucato> let me see how that looks on feisty
[12:39] <sash_> hi display driver pls help www.externalthree.com/2.png
[12:39] <emilsedgh> Jucato: so thats fixed...its soo stupid in feisty
[12:39] <Jucato> testing
[12:39] <Jucato> sash_: Feisty or Gutsy?
[12:39] <sash_> feisty
[12:40] <Jucato> sash_: try reinstalling the package named "kde-guidance" ?
[12:40] <Jucato> emilsedgh: yeah fixed in Gutsy :)
[12:40] <Jucato> (yeah it does look silly on feisty hahaha)
[12:41] <emilsedgh> Jucato: Thanks! really good news (this was one of those things that make me feel Ubuntu is really more polished than Kubuntu)
[12:41] <Jucato> :)
[12:41] <Jucato> it's not Kubuntu's fault though.. it's just that the default KMilo theme kinda sucked..
[12:42] <Jucato> s/theme/appearance
[12:43] <tim_> anyone here use SKIM / scim / xim?
[12:43] <emilsedgh> Jucato: agreed, but should be fixed in distro's...kubuntu is there to avoid KDE and other packages, faults and not good-enough configurations...
[12:45] <emilsedgh> is there any stats to show that how many users does kubuntu have?
[12:46] <Jucato> none that I know of
[12:47] <emilsedgh> pag: wb
[12:48] <pag> emilsedgh, wb? :)
[12:48] <crazylazy> hey you guys!
[12:48] <crazylazy> How can I setup a PXE server on a winxp that installs Kubuntu?
[12:49] <crazylazy> Anyone there?
[12:50] <pag> crazylazy, yup.
[12:50] <sash_> hey Jucato not resolved
[12:51] <Jucato> sash_: hm... not sure what's wrong :(
[12:52] <sash_> so i am install ati.amd.com driver so i dunno how remove ?
[12:52] <emilsedgh> sash_: try running displayconfig please...
[12:55] <kraut> moin
[12:56] <crazylazy> How can I get rid of the bios pass, too boot Kubuntu?
[12:56] <crazylazy> It is a Dell Latitude D6301'
[12:57] <owl> *cough* might you should take your laptop's guide and take a look how to set/unset a bios-password... *hint* *hint*
[12:57] <crazylazy> I don't have the guide, I lost it.
[12:57] <emilsedgh> crazylazy: you have to disable it from Bios... I think, press F2 (I think) button when Bios is loading... (it will say which key you have to press to enter the Bios Setup, I think its F2)
[12:58] <crazylazy> But I don't have the bios password, and wubi won't work in a limited account
[12:59] <owl> *cough* might you should ask google for 'how to get a lost bios-pwd on a dell latitude' or 'master-pwds for dell latitude' or something different. oh. and normally the customer has a .pdf somewhere...
[01:00] <crazylazy> A pdf? I shall look.
[01:00] <emilsedgh> crazylazy: in a PC you could open the case and take out the BIOS Password and return it into its place, it will remove the pass, but on a laptop i dunno..
[01:02] <crazylazy> How can I make wubi work on a restricted account?
[01:02] <Jucato> you'll have to ask in a wubi channel or forum...
[01:02] <Jucato> !wubi
[01:02] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[01:04] <tim_> so like what does wubi do that just using the bootloader wouldnt?
[01:05] <edulix> hi
[01:06] <crazylazy> It installs Kubuntu
[01:13] <naser> i have router modem its work in kde desktop (kubuntu) but not working in gnome (ubuntu)
[01:13] <naser> ??
[01:15] <naser>  i have network card and router modem its work in kde desktop but in gnome doesnt work ?????
[01:16] <adaptr> of course, rephrase the statement using even more question marks - that'll work
[01:17] <emilsedgh> naser: please do not repeat.now whats the matter...its working on kde and this is the Kubuntu's support channel...if you have problems with ubuntu, go to #ubuntu
[01:28] <TinkY_WinkY> connect irc.omega.bg
[01:32] <AlenoChka> helloy
[01:39] <xplornet> hello
[01:39] <carsten_> hallo
[01:39] <emilsedgh> hi
[01:39] <carsten_> ist da einer auf meiner welle
[01:40] <emilsedgh> !de
[01:40] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:40] <xplornet> i'm nubie in kubuntu T_T
[01:41] <xplornet> i can't configure my display setting
[01:41] <xplornet> anyone can help me ?
[01:41] <emilsedgh> xplornet: go to SystemSettings->monitor & display...
[01:42] <xplornet> yup
[01:42] <xplornet> i can't change display to 1024x740
[01:42] <xplornet> there's only 800x600
[01:43] <emilsedgh> xplornet: isnt in your list?
[01:43] <xplornet> yup
[01:43] <emilsedgh> xplornet: open konsole, then type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:44] <fritsch> xplornet: would try with policy high, because of too many questions
[01:44] <fritsch> xplornet: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[01:45] <emilsedgh> is there any plan to have somthing similliar to ubuntu 7.10's Xorg configurator in kubuntu?
[01:45] <xplornet> video card bus identifier
[01:46] <xplornet> my grapchic card is geforce2 mx400
[01:46] <emilsedgh> xplornet: do not touch the steps that you do not know
[01:47] <xplornet> is there pci 1:0:0 true ?
[02:03] <adenicio> ##window
[02:04] <adenicio> # # windows
[02:04] <Jucato> hm...
[02:04] <adenicio> ## windows
[02:04] <Jucato> please do not spam
[02:05] <adenicio> Jucato: how do i get in the chat windows?
[02:05] <Jucato>  /j #channel_name
[02:05] <Jucato> or just click on the channel name
[02:06] <adenicio> #windows
[02:06] <Jucato> ???
[02:07] <voln> hi, i'm noticed that kmix doesn't start during booting kubuntu, any idea?
[02:08] <Jucato> voln: if you leave it running when you logout, it should restart when you login. unless you turned off the behavior of KDE's Session Manager
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> voln: start it manually, and them it should start automaticall every time again
[02:08] <emilsedgh> voln: Run it and save your session :)
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: hey, BTW, how would one go about joining the kubuntu support team on launchpad?
[02:08] <Jucato> which team?
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: the kubuntu support team. I mean, what credentials/experience do you need?
[02:10] <Jucato> I don't see a Kubuntu Support Team on Launchpad...
[02:11] <adenicio> Jucato: how do i get read and rite acces to my mount xp partition for me to delete these virus that come from i dont know where
[02:11] <Jucato> !ntfs
[02:11] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:11] <Jucato> !ntfs-3g
[02:11] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:11] <Jucato> adenicio: ^^^^^
[02:12] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: which specific team on Launchpad are you talking about?
[02:12] <emilsedgh> Jucato: is there any 'Team'? how could I join? I want to help as I can...
[02:12] <Jucato> These are the Kubuntu teams on Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/people/?name=kubuntu&searchfor=teamsonly
[02:13] <Jucato> there are other teams for all *buntus, like the Bug team, documentation team, etc
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> finding it... BTW... take a look at this http://marco-za.blogspot.com/2007/08/google-earth-flight-simulator.html
[02:13] <Jucato> you have to be more specific..
[02:14] <adenicio> jucato i have my save data on my xp music etc because on the hdd with linux its to small
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> yeah yeah... i'm finding the page.
[02:15] <Jucato> adenicio: those links give you instructions on how to mount your windows partitions so you can write to them
[02:15] <adenicio> Jucato: what link?
[02:16] <Jucato> read up. the one given by the bot
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuSupportTeam?highlight=%28support%29%7C%28team%29
[02:16] <adenicio> Jucato: oh ok its normal i didnt see it u didnt't put my name
[02:16] <Jucato> yes I did, after the bot
[02:17] <Jucato> [20:11]  <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:17] <Jucato> [20:11]  <Jucato> adenicio: ^^^^^
[02:17] <Jucato> adenicio: oh that one... um.. how should I say this... that team no longer exists...
[02:17] <adenicio> Jucato: lol is that to show me above lol mdr hahaha
[02:17] <adenicio> !oh my
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oh my - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: was tat meant for me?
[02:18] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: yeah sorry
[02:19] <Jucato> sorry guys doing too many things at the same time...
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> oh.... well thats ok. I was just wondering
[02:19] <Jucato> adenicio: just follow the link about Mounting Windows Partitions
[02:20] <Jucato> nosrednaekim, emilsedgh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingKubuntu | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HelpingUbuntu | http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[02:22] <emilsedgh> Jucato: I should learn tp create packages, I did it once but it was never so seroius...where could I get help on that? here?
[02:22] <Jucato> !motu
[02:22] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[02:23] <Jucato> although there are many other ways to contribute aside from packaging. just thought you'd like to know :)
[02:24] <emilsedgh> Jucato: ya, but Packagin is the most intresting one to me, I tried it before... ;)
[02:24] <Jucato> hehe ok
[02:25] <Jucato> emilsedgh: head over to #ubuntu-motu if you need help and guidance as well. make sure you read the docs too
[02:25] <Jucato> you would also want to read the Debian New Maintainer's Guide and Debian Developer guide for packaging as they are the basis for *buntu packaging as well
[02:25] <emilsedgh> Jucato: oh sure I will read the **** manual ;)
[02:26] <Jucato> read the free manual. yes :)
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> lol
[02:26] <emilsedgh> :P
[02:27] <Jucato> I personally suggest you start with the Debian NM one first, and the Ubuntu packaging guide later...
[02:27] <Jucato> but that's just me. and I'm not a packager yet hahaha
[02:28] <emilsedgh> lol
[02:30] <gnit> good afternoon all. Does anybody have kubuntu installed on a aspire 3690? I need long-distance help with microphone settings (mum's using it in another country)
[02:30] <gnit> that's an acer btw.
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> gnit: don't have one... but take a look at www.linux-laptop.net
[02:32] <gnit> k. cheer
[02:32] <gnit> s
[02:34] <zipper> Anyone know a good sysinfo script for xchat?
[02:35] <Jucato> hm... try asking in #ubuntu or #gnome but not really sure
[02:35] <Jucato> maybe there's an #xchat channel?
[02:35] <gnit> no joy on the linux-laptop page :(
[02:35] <Jucato> !laptop
[02:35] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> ah nice... didn't know there was that little help-topic
[02:37] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[02:37] <Jucato> elow
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> 'lo
[02:38] <Jucato> thanks!
[02:38] <gnit> Nice, ultimately unhelpful. I'm trying to get my mother's microphone working, but she's 4,000 miles away. I was hoping somebody here had experience with exactly what settings to give on the card.
[02:38] <waylandbill> don't leave me out in the cold BluesKaj
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> my coffee froze on its trip here.... you shouldn't live in canada BluesKaj
[02:38] <BluesKaj> I sure need one ...sleepy this morn
[02:39] <BluesKaj> whadya mean it's 16C here already :)
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[02:40] <ymsg> wesh la famille
[02:40] <BluesKaj> better check yer geography and don't believe all the rumours about our country ...however it does discourage the meek  :)
[02:41] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: I'm sure you don't have to go too far north to get chillier. :)
[02:43] <BluesKaj> waylandbill, how far north do you envsion us to be ?
[02:43] <Jucato> (too far north from me... that's all that matters...)
[02:44] <BluesKaj> wimps! :)
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: yeah yeah... you are farther south than Maine.
[02:44] <waylandbill> you're in ontario which has most of it's population in the southern most area, but I'm thinking a couple hundred miles north could make a difference.
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> and than then north pole as well
[02:44] <Jucato> WIMP = Window, Icon, Mouse, Pointer... a.k.a. GUI's :P
[02:44] <Jucato> er ok.. veering offtopic  :)
[02:45] <BluesKaj> waylandbill,  it doe make a difference ...and away from all the pollution and heatwaves , altho it's been over 30C here a lot this summer
[02:45] <waylandbill> slightly. :)
[02:47] <smirnoff> do u have any idea on intalling netbeans kubuntu ?
[02:47] <RichardBH> hi
[02:48] <RichardBH> stupid question: if I install something from adept (say, GvR), where does it put it?
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> RichardBH: the actual package that you DL,or when its installed?
[02:49] <RichardBH> nosrednaekim: when its installed
[02:49] <smirnoff> i downloaded form a website ... adept gives error when i try to install from there
[02:49] <Jucato> !netbeans
[02:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netbeans - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <RichardBH> most things seem to get added to the K Menu thing, but some of the games and stuff havent shown up
[02:50] <Jucato> !info netbeans5.5 | smirnoff
[02:50] <ubotu> smirnoff: netbeans5.5: NetBeans IDE for development of applications in Java. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 5.5-0.59 (feisty), package size 33 kB, installed size 172 kB
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> RichardBH: many many many different places :) click on a package->details->installed files
[02:50] <BluesKaj> waylandbill, yer in new york state , right ?
[02:51] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: where is  Applications  System Tools  NTFS Configuration Tool?
[02:51] <RichardBH> nosrednaekim: ah, thanks - i was trying to avoid reopening adept, but if thats the way then ill just have to be patient :P
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> RichardBH: there is a command line way as well. forget what it was tho ;)
[02:51] <RichardBH> adenicio: are you having the problem that it doesnt load when you click it?
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: within "advanced"
[02:52] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: I think he's reading GNOME/Ubuntu instructions...
[02:52] <sairinlote> guys have u installed google earth on 7.0.4 ?
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> oh..lol
[02:52] <adenicio> RichardBH: no im trying to put ntfs -3g to work im folowing the instrtion from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> nope.... I haven't... did you see the flight sim for it?
[02:53] <RichardBH> adenicio: ah, fair enough
[02:53] <adenicio> RichardBH:  where is  Applications  System Tools  NTFS Configuration Tool?
[02:53] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: yup. about 2 hours from ontario border.
[02:53] <enzo> hallo wie gehtz euch??
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> !de
[02:53] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:54] <BluesKaj> right , so you ain't in any banana belt either :)
[02:54] <RichardBH> adenicio: i dont know where the actual file is, sorry
[02:55] <adenicio> RichardBH: it's not a file
[02:55] <RichardBH> adenicio: oh
[02:55] <adenicio> RichardBH: it's like lookin for amarok.to find it go in K-menu>multimedia
[02:55] <RichardBH> cant help you there then, sorry
[02:56] <BluesKaj> waylandbill, got google earth , copy&paste this into the searchbar: 46.14N 81.15W the resolution isn't vg but it shows the are well enuff
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: its probably in systemsettings->advanced
[02:56] <BluesKaj> area
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: did you hear about the flight sim easter egg for GE?
[02:57] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, the what ?
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: lol.... http://marco-za.blogspot.com/2007/08/google-earth-flight-simulator.html
[02:58] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: ok
[02:58] <Pirate_Hunter> how do I access kde wizard again
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> kpersonalizer I think
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> if thats what oyu mean
[02:59] <waylandbill> don't have google earth on the laptop. Installing now.
[03:00] <clau85> hello. an upgrade has broken my kubuntu 7.04 on my laptop
[03:00] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, cool ...I'll have to install the latest GE :)
[03:00] <Pirate_Hunter> how do I access kde wizard again?
[03:00] <clau85> it boots up, but i get no login screen, just a black one
[03:00] <clau85> in recovery mode i have no problem to startx, though
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: I'd do it if I had the bandwidth.
[03:00] <Pirate_Hunter> !wizard
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wizard - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> clau85: any error messages?
[03:01] <emilsedgh> Pirate_Hunter: which wizard? first boot wizard?
[03:01] <clau85> nosrednaekim: no, i can't see any
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> Pirate_Hunter: what do you mean?
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> what wizard
[03:01] <emilsedgh> Pirate_Hunter: if you want the first boot wizard, run kpersonalizer
[03:01] <Pirate_Hunter> emilsedgh, nosrednaekim: yeha the boot theme wizard
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> boot theme? oh....
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> !bootsplash
[03:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:02] <emilsedgh> Pirate_Hunter: run kpersonalizer
[03:02] <Pirate_Hunter> emilsedgh: thanx that did it
[03:03] <waylandbill> the only thing is that kpersonalizer has to be installed, it's not a default package anymore.
[03:03] <adenicio> emilsedgh: i install clamAV antivirus but it detects the viruses in my xp but how do it clean or delete?or it just just detect?
[03:04] <Pirate_Hunter> waylandbill: it is on my feisty with kde
[03:04] <clau85> found the proble, it was the fglrx driver
[03:05] <clau85> the upgrade installed a new kernel version, that
[03:05] <clau85> that's why
[03:05] <emilsedgh> adenicio: sorry, i dunno, i havent any winxp
[03:05] <adenicio> lol
[03:05] <adenicio> nosrednaekim:  i install clamAV antivirus but it detects the viruses in my xp but how do it clean or delete?or it just just detect?
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> clau85: ah.... and you manually installed your old one
[03:07] <clau85> nosrednaekim: exactly. is there a way to do it automatically?
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> clau85: yeah. grab the "restricted-manager" package.
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> clau85: run it and it will automatically install your drivers.
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> of course, thats from within X.
[03:08] <clau85> nosrednaekim: awesome, cool, thanks :)
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: I don't use XP
[03:09] <tim> clam does not repair files
[03:09] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: you dont use it or you dont have it?
[03:09] <tim> its designed for inbox filtering you see
[03:09] <jhutchins> nosrednaekim: Seriously, restricted-manager doesn't work from the console?
[03:09] <tim> so its supposed to spot and delete evil emails
[03:10] <tim> if system files are infected your best off deleting stuff and doing a reinstall to get your XP partition running (assuming broke)
[03:10] <BluesKaj> hmm,  kpersonalizer is assuming a kde 356 installation , i don't imagine that a 357 installation will react differntly to it's settings
[03:10] <clau85> bye
[03:10] <waylandbill> I found it easier to stop using xp than fight the viruses and spyware. :)
[03:11] <tim> adenico: what kind of files are infected
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins: nope... it won't
[03:13] <Pirate_Hunter> waylandbill: lol it wouldnt be M$ xp without the viruses
[03:13] <Pirate_Hunter> so many idle ppl
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins: I know... thats a terrible thing.... maybe i'll go code a CLI frontend :)
[03:14] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, if you run :sudo restricted-manager , it will open a dialog on the desktop
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: not if you are in the CLI
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> with no X
[03:15] <BluesKaj> ahh , no X
[03:15] <Pirate_Hunter> seriously if linux has a win xp virus i know it wont make a difference but how do we/I clean it up
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> unless you have wine ;)
[03:15] <BluesKaj> !virus | Pirate_Hunter
[03:15] <ubotu> Pirate_Hunter: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:15] <adenicio> CAN ANY ONE GIVE ME AND ANTIVIRUS that can clean or DESTROY?
[03:16] <llutz> destroy= rm $infected_file
[03:16] <Pirate_Hunter> BluesKaj: ive read that but the thing is i use xp a lot and linux on my personal time also my other hd's are xp so if my linux gets infected it will infect the other hd's
[03:16] <adenicio> CAN ANY ONE GIVE ME AND ANTIVIRUS that can clean or DESTROY?
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> !patience | adenicio
[03:16] <ubotu> adenicio: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:16] <RurouniJones> This has to be trolling right?
[03:17] <Jucato> !caps | adenicio
[03:17] <ubotu> adenicio: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:17] <adenicio> !ohmy| nosrednaekim
[03:17] <ubotu> nosrednaekim: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:17] <adenicio> lol
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> troll...
[03:17] <Pirate_Hunter> since were on the topic of antivirus what are the antivirus options for linux?
[03:18] <Jucato> clamav/klamav for one
[03:18] <nosrednaekim> !antivirus | Pirate_Hunter
[03:18] <ubotu> Pirate_Hunter: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[03:18] <RurouniJones> clamav can be used to virus scan windows partitions
[03:18] <BluesKaj> Pirate_Hunter, your linux won't be infected but your other windows OS's will be
[03:18] <RurouniJones> for windows viruses...which don't affect linux
[03:18] <inaety> antivirus is so useless
[03:18] <Jucato> that really depends
[03:18] <BluesKaj> Pirate_Hunter, so make sure windows is protected
[03:19] <Pirate_Hunter> BluesKaj, nosrednaekim: i knwo thats the point i was trying to make and it is a brother going to windows to clean it up while I could do it from linux. Also if I clean it on windows it still means ive got a virus on linux still
[03:19] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: you're a little more north than I envisioned. :)
[03:19] <Pirate_Hunter> yes I do use windows a lot
[03:19] <adenicio> inaety: its not if u stil sometime go back to windows wich is a problem if u got a flood of 62 viruses that slows down your pc like hell
[03:20] <inaety> adenicio: well if you try not to get viruses on windows you won't...well i never have but i really just visit work sites on windows
[03:20] <Pirate_Hunter> do ppl heer understand the point im trying to make or am i just confusing everyone
[03:21] <Jucato> Pirate_Hunter: weren't you already given 2 names of antivirus software?
[03:21] <BluesKaj> waylandbill, it's nice here ... away from the " big smoke "...I'm retired and we live in a tourist area, that ppl move to after leaving the "ratrace"
[03:21] <Pirate_Hunter> Jucato: nope? was I?
[03:21] <kofany> Hi i have problem with start kubuntu on my Laptop Compaq Presario with GEFORCE GO 6150. After when the system is loaded as live i have sound but all time black screen
[03:21] <llutz> adenicio: if you got a flood of 62 virusses you have a generic user-problem. no scanner can help you then
[03:21] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: are you saying if you get a virus on your windows partition it will affect your linux partition?
[03:21] <Jucato> Pirate_Hunter: twice
[03:21] <RurouniJones> Pirate_Hunter: ClamAV and Aegis was suggested by various people
[03:21] <Pirate_Hunter> Jucato: sorry must have missed it
[03:22] <Jucato>  <ubotu> Pirate_Hunter: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[03:22] <inaety> !linuxvirus
[03:22] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:22] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: no what im saying if I get a virus on linux it will affect xp but cleaning xp on its own would be useless cause next time a user logs into linux the vrirus affects xp again and thats the end of that
[03:23] <tim> does anyone use P2P? if so what program do you use? and is gIFT dead?
[03:23] <Jucato> Pirate_Hunter: you might want to Google around for some guides on how to clean XP from Linux, as it involves writing to Windows partitions
[03:23] <Pirate_Hunter> RurouniJones: sorry didnt see that from before, im multi-tasking
[03:23] <Jucato> (wow, you're not paying attention to us and you expect us to understand you? :P)
[03:24] <adenicio> llutz:  Pirate_Hunter:  inaety: is it possible to install an xp antivirus with wine like pc-cilling,kasperkey,norton,panda etc?
[03:24] <Pirate_Hunter> i said multi-tasking its different
[03:24] <llutz> adenicio: it's useless
[03:24] <Pirate_Hunter> adenicio: that woul be useless
[03:24] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: i doubt you will "give" windows a virus by cleaning it on linux because IIRC to clean another partition you need root priveledges and unless the virus has your root password then you should be okay
[03:24] <Pirate_Hunter> adenicio: i understand what ur trying to do but no point on linux
[03:24] <inaety> adenicio: that's ....bad
[03:24] <BluesKaj> Jucato, and everyone ..he's asking if his linux install will store or hide a virus even tho it doesn't affect kubuntu but loads as son as he runs window sfiles
[03:25] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: hmmm you have a point which I didnt think about
[03:25] <inaety> ohh
[03:25] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: what BluesKaj i dunno
[03:25] <inaety> said*
[03:25] <adenicio> llutz:  Pirate_Hunter:  inaety: yeah but i just cant format my xp like that i dont have no space to back up my stuff
[03:25] <adenicio> :(
[03:25] <inaety> adenicio: scan it with ClamAV
[03:26] <Jucato> afaik, you can transfer a virus if you were sent an infected file and then sent that file to a Windows machine... iirc
[03:26] <llutz> adenicio: if you don't have a backup, your data isn't important. so you're losing nothing
[03:26] <Pirate_Hunter> BluesKaj: that would be interesting specially how m$ viruses are becoming more complex
[03:26] <adenicio> inaety: clam only detects it cant delete them
[03:26] <inaety> adenicio: you can detect them, then www.google.com for a virus scanner that can fix the known problems
[03:26] <Pirate_Hunter> adenicio: no point backing up if you have 62 viruses
[03:26] <anandanbu> I have downloaded the .bin file of Real Player 10 from their website for firefox and now how do i install it in Ubuntu 7.04
[03:26] <BluesKaj> yeah Jucato , I think that's what Pirate_Hunter is worried about ...i think it's a genuine concern :P
[03:27] <kofany> can somebody help me?
[03:27] <Jucato> !somebody | kofany
[03:27] <ubotu> kofany: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:27] <adenicio> llutz: lol it's all my music,videos,programmes everything
[03:27] <adenicio> O_O
[03:27] <Jucato> BluesKaj: to which we answered clamav... apparently he was too busy to notice :P
[03:27] <Pirate_Hunter> BluesKaj: you hit the nail on the head thats correct
[03:27] <kofany> i ask 2 times...
[03:27] <kofany> S:
[03:27] <llutz> adenicio: you should have thought about that earlier
[03:28] <Pirate_Hunter> Jucato: i did notice
[03:28] <kofany> Hi i have problem with start kubuntu on my Laptop Compaq Presario with GEFORCE GO 6150. After when the system is loaded as live i have sound but all time black screen? Do You have any solutions?
[03:28] <computer> i never saw that
[03:28] <tim> is it a new install?
[03:28] <kofany> yeep
[03:28] <Jucato> Live CD?
[03:28] <kofany> yeep
[03:28] <Jucato> so it's not a new install :)
[03:28] <emilsedgh> kofany: press alt+ctrl+f1, then login and run this command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:29] <Pirate_Hunter> adenicio: get a pc from a family member and make sure they ahve antivirus than send ur file with an rj11 cable than format ur pc
[03:29] <Jucato> emilsedgh: would be nice if he stopped X first.. but that could work too :P
[03:29] <inaety> GEFORCE GO 6150 isnt on the list
[03:29] <inaety> i dont think
[03:29] <adenicio> llutz: i had back ups but my sis neede back up too so i store my things on my pc to make space on my external hdd but my sis did it at the last moment she had to take the plane so some of her importan things had to stay on my hdd
[03:29] <kofany> inaety: on the list of what?
[03:29] <emilsedgh> Jucato: sure you have better experience... ;)
[03:29] <Pirate_Hunter> adenicio: i jsut told you what to do
[03:29] <BluesKaj> Pirate_Hunter, well you have your answer ClamAV
[03:29] <inaety> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[03:30] <inaety> kofany: &
[03:30] <inaety> ^*
[03:30] <Pirate_Hunter> BluesKaj: yeah i know
[03:30] <adenicio> Pirate_Hunter: im allready looking
[03:30] <Jucato> emilsedgh: it would still work. I just feel more comfortable shutting it down before reconfigure hahah. but still works
[03:30] <emilsedgh> ;)
[03:30] <Pirate_Hunter> adenicio: huh? for a fmaily member or for a pc to borrow
[03:31] <Pirate_Hunter> *family
[03:31] <inaety> adenicio: do you have a cd burner?
[03:31] <BluesKaj> waylandbill, the new google earth is very cool
[03:31] <inaety> BluesKaj: did you know kde made a "google earth" i forget the name
[03:31] <computer> awasome
[03:32] <Jucato> Marble
[03:32] <Jucato> it's not exactly google earth :P
[03:32] <inaety> yeah that its
[03:32] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: there woulld be no point if his files are infected "thats my opinion"
[03:32] <adenicio> Pirate_Hunter: oh lol no sorry that wasnt for u.ill just get my 20gig install xp quick with an anti-v
[03:32] <Jucato> it's just a map kind of thingy
[03:32] <emilsedgh> inaety: marble :) thats not a google earth...
[03:32] <kofany> inaety: so if is not on the list it will not work on linux?
[03:32] <inaety> kofany: it just means that no one has a found a fix yet IIRC
[03:33] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: well he scan those 10 files he has for virus and then go from there
[03:33] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: for instance if the .doc is infected he can just copy and paste into a new .doc
[03:33] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: i dont think tis that easy
[03:33] <spiroo> hello everyone, I know the problem with the sound in linux. The problem is the mixer. If you turn the volume down in linux in mixer or playback app and then turn volume up on your speakers the sound is better
[03:33] <Max-P> kofany, try to change the screen resolution (1024x768, 800x600 ...)
[03:33] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: why wouldnt it?
[03:34] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: if its infected depending what it is if he opens it it could be fatal for the pc
[03:34] <_Shade_> how can i install programs using svn ? what do i need?
[03:34] <llutz> spiroo: thats why i told you yesterday to paly around with mixer-settings :)
[03:34] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: okay what are the kind of files? have them transferred onto linux and then open them
[03:34] <llutz> play
[03:34] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: what's it gonna do when it cant find C;/windows :P
[03:34] <tim> svn is subversion?
[03:34] <spiroo> llutz: hehe yes, sorry about that I did not trust you. But is that problem going to be fixed anytime?
[03:35] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: anow ur being sarcastic but that could work, he can format his partiition, get an antivirus and load the files back on
[03:35] <llutz> spiroo: i told you also, to ask those things in #alsa :)
[03:35] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: or he can copy and paste from openoffice
[03:35] <spiroo> the sound as I have heard it has never worked properly in linux
[03:35] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: im assuming its just stuff like .doc
[03:35] <adenicio> Pirate_Hunter: my linux and xp is on grub if i take out the hdd xp will linux still boot?
[03:35] <owl> bye
[03:36] <spiroo> yes I asked in #alsa but not a single person will answer me
[03:36] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: 42.61N 77.63W
[03:36] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety :that would be hard with music, films etc and isnt copy & paste just cloning the same infected file???
[03:36] <inaety> adenicio: what you will do when you want to reformat windows is put in your windows cd and just worry about your FAT drive
[03:36] <_4strO> adenicio: probably not
[03:36] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: i know...im thinkinh
[03:36] <_4strO> adenicio: depend of where grub is install
[03:37] <tim> to the subversion guy:
[03:37] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: well if it's those files, which are runnable in linux then shouldnt clamav or whatever kill the infected files
[03:37] <rand_acs_> adenicio: if XP is on a seperate drive yes
[03:37] <llutz> spiroo: then write a bug-report and hope for improvement
[03:37] <Pirate_Hunter> adenicio: take out hdd, get urself gparted, format the partition you want and thats it.  oops if you install xp again it will format the whole hd "OMG"
[03:37] <BluesKaj> spiroo, you do not go over 70% input volume , other wise you overload the inputs to the amplifier that your speakers are connected to : hence the cleaner sound ...crank up the speaker volume , not the input volume
[03:37] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: :( yeah it would, this feels like a chess game and ive just lost again
[03:37] <_4strO> rand_acs_: noway if grub is intalled in the MBR of the XP disk ...
[03:38] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: it's okay, ^_^
[03:38] <tim> svn is short for a program called subversion, which is like CVS. Programmers use it to keep project files, and resolve simultanius edits. You will need to get the source out of the svn repository, and then build it (or just run it if its interpreted (python say))
[03:38] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: however i dunno if clamav searches for windows viruses
[03:38] <spiroo> BluesKay: thanks. not excatly sure what you mean but kind a
[03:38] <rand_acs_> _4strO: true but I'm assuming grub got installed when he was installing linux
[03:38] <adenicio> inaety: i cant do that my back up with my antivirus in it is a fat and its in the same hdd partition
[03:39] <tim> inaety: yes it does, for mail box clearing
[03:39] <spiroo> llutz: yea I guess, but this is a global/international problem
[03:39] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: lol ok im not a sore loser :). Now how can he install xp again once the partition is formated without wiping out kubuntu
[03:39] <kofany> Max-P: it is working on 800/600
[03:39] <_4strO> rand_acs_: think linus is already installexd
[03:39] <wers> do you have suggestions on how I can make kubuntu faster? I already turned of many effects. what unnecessary processes run on a default kubuntu install most of the time?
[03:39] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: i dunno what he just said to me...
[03:39] <spiroo> why type a bug report which probably already has been typed a thousand times
[03:39] <kofany> Max-P: but i want work with beter resolution
[03:39] <adenicio> Pirate_Hunter: its a no problem to install the grub
[03:40] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: lthis si what i told him "take out hdd, get urself gparted, format the partition you want and thats it.  oops if you install xp again it will format the whole hd "OMG"
[03:40] <inaety> adenicio: you need to mount your hard drive onto a mount point in linux aand then browse it for the files you want and save it some folder and then have clamav scan for it and it will work because tim just confirmed it
[03:40] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: haha - dont try to confuse him
[03:40] <Max-P> kofany: But if your screen don't support it...
[03:40] <Pirate_Hunter> now if he frmats the partiition like i said he loses xp but if he installs it again he loses all data
[03:41] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: that was for you he is not involved at this time in this conversation
[03:41] <BluesKaj> waylandbill, drove thru the finger lakes on our honeymoon a long time ago , 1965 ...nice area :)
[03:41] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: i just told him to mount it and do all that stuff then just stick the win cd in and install over his fat partition
[03:41] <spiroo> the problem is PCM, if I use Master the sound, just sounds perfect ;)
[03:41] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: yeah
[03:41] <tim> inaety: but its scan only, no repeair
[03:41] <spiroo> output volume is the problem not input
[03:41] <inaety> tim: darn
[03:41] <inaety> oh wekk
[03:41] <inaety> well
[03:41] <waylandbill> Pirate_Hunter: you won't lose everything by installing xp. You just have to reinstall grub to the mbr.
[03:42] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: the way I see him installing windows is by doing what you said, checking with clamav and then backing it up on a different hd or DVD disks but thats long
[03:43] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: where'd ya go on the honeymoon that took you through the finger lakes?
[03:43] <Pirate_Hunter> waylandbill: xp erases all data it tries to fill the hd
[03:43] <Pirate_Hunter> waylandbill: at leats my one does
[03:43] <llutz> Pirate_Hunter: wrong
[03:43] <Pirate_Hunter> llutz: wrong... hmmm... explain
[03:43] <llutz> Pirate_Hunter: then you're using a recovery-version, no a install
[03:43] <inaety> haha Pirate_Hunter
[03:44] <waylandbill> Pirate_Hunter: no it doesn't. You tell it what parition to install to.
[03:44] <Pirate_Hunter> llutz: i do clean installl and i think thats only for xp professional not home :(
[03:44] <llutz> Pirate_Hunter: with xp-install cds you can easily say which partition is to be used
[03:44] <llutz> Pirate_Hunter: works this way in both versions, home/prof
[03:45] <milian> does anyone know how I could export / import my kwallet passwords?
[03:45] <Pirate_Hunter> llutz: ive tried looking for that option wheer I choose the partition but like I said it just takes the whole disk
[03:45] <kofany> Max-P: on Vista is working.... on xp is working.
[03:45] <BluesKaj> waylandbill, we drove from toronto to buffalo, thru to vermont, then up to montreal ...we were rather poor at the time and we only had a week off :)
[03:46] <llutz> Pirate_Hunter: then german-versions must be completely different from others
[03:46] <Pirate_Hunter> BluesKaj: if you dont mind me asking, how old are you
[03:46] <BluesKaj> Pirate_Hunter, i'm 64
[03:46] <Pirate_Hunter> llutz: lol, rfl, seriously hillarious :)
[03:46] <Max-P> kofany: If it is working, I don't know why it don't work, sorry
[03:46] <Pirate_Hunter> BluesKaj: see now i understand, just curious
[03:47] <inaety> kofany: do you have the nvidia drivers installed
[03:47] <BluesKaj> Pirate_Hunter, 'ts ok ...old retired labtech ...used  computers for 25 yrs , mostly as application controllers tho
[03:48] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone tell me what are the advantages of kde compared to gnome? please dont say it looks prettier like they did in ubuntu channel
[03:48] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: iti is
[03:48] <Pirate_Hunter> BluesKaj: im impressed now you help newbs like me thats nice
[03:48] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: faster
[03:48] <rand_acs__> it's loads faster
[03:48] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: easier to program in...not counting pygtk
[03:49] <llutz> Pirate_Hunter: kde won't hide important options in dialog from the user
[03:49] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: more themeable
[03:49] <BluesKaj> Pirate_Hunter, I'm still a relative noob to linux too
[03:49] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: I know it is but what are the actual advantages and loading faster are you sure about that... i believe that depends on the resources of the machine
[03:49] <rand_acs__> the apps actually work!
[03:49] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: what are you on
[03:49] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: Feyisty with kde
[03:49] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: hardware!
[03:50] <Pirate_Hunter> BluesKaj: well i believe you know more than me but whats annoying is having to scar what windows has taught you and having to adapt to linux
[03:50] <emilsedgh> one of the most importants, really good intergrated!
[03:50] <kofany> inaety: i dont know, it first start from cd.
[03:51] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: lol standard hardware, Sis motherboard, 3.2GHZ intel processor (R), 512 ram, sis graphics card " dont even know if it has an actual name", what else am i missing?
[03:52] <BluesKaj> Pirate_Hunter, i have to confess , that I'm still a windows guy in some ways but I'm slowly migrating to linux...the ppl here are great for the most part and having the time to hang around lets me learn more and more .
[03:52] <kofany> so i dont now witch drivers i have
[03:53] <Pirate_Hunter> yesterday loaded xp stoped 20 system services and a couple processes. M$ cp has so much useless junk
[03:53] <inaety> kofany: you can try to install through the alternate disc and install nvidia drivers but you will lose everything
[03:53] <Arwen> SIS? I thought all those integrated chipsets were dead already.
[03:53] <Arwen> These days you just see Intel, NVIDIA, and ATI
[03:53] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: it will start up pretty quickly
[03:53] <runlevelten> Switching to Linux is like switching to windows from a Mac or something. Once you reconcile yourself with that, it's not irksome.
[03:53] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: i have a 2.2 Ghz processor and it starts up in like 5 seconds
[03:53] <Pirate_Hunter> BluesKaj: yeha I understand what you mean? Bluetack forum was what made me change to llinux but it is the IRC that is helpful
[03:53] <nemo_> hallo
[03:54] <kai> #kubuntu-de
[03:54] <waylandbill> programming with Qt seems easier to me than using GTK, but I'm just used to kde.
[03:54] <runlevelten> hi BluesKaj :)
[03:54] <BluesKaj> hi runlevelten
[03:54] <nemo_> is something out there
[03:54] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: mine as well but I kept the theme animation to minimum just incase
[03:54] <inaety> you can turn it up a bit
[03:54] <inaety> i don't like a lot of it anyways
[03:55] <inaety> if you want to run compiz-fusion you might be out of luck...but that still wont affect kde's speed
[03:55] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: most of it is not needed, I only use themes for the normal user accounts but admin accounts I believe should not have themes. At leats thats how my XP is set up
[03:55] <Pirate_Hunter> nemo_: ive found nemo and a shark is out there
[03:56] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: well you can theme them if you want if you don't it will just look like an unconfigured kde
[03:56] <rand_acs__> Pirate_Hunter: if the codes time- and space complexity is greater(worse) it always will be, even though at some point your hardware will make it seem that there's no difference
[03:56] <emilsedgh> Pirate_Hunter: usually in GNU/Linux, admin's prefer to have no GUI, hey prefer CommandLine solutions...
[03:56] <Pirate_Hunter> what are the kde download accelerators if there are any
[03:56] <mrmagoo_> ciao a tutti
[03:57] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: kget
[03:57] <emilsedgh> Pirate_Hunter: try kget
[03:57] <Pirate_Hunter> emilsedgh: im not ready for full command line yet
[03:57] <mrmagoo_> qualche italiano per aiuti su partizione?
[03:57] <llutz> !it | mrmagoo_
[03:57] <ubotu> mrmagoo_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:57] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: im sure thats a download manager, i need this download in like 30min not 3hours
[03:57] <mrmagoo_> grazie
[03:57] <inaety> what are you downloading
[03:58] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: hoping to download Nero and no its not for linux
[03:58] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: oh okay, ill look for one
[03:58] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: (-_-") WoW ur a darling
[03:59] <waylandbill> Pirate_Hunter: k3b rocks.
[03:59] <emilsedgh> Pirate_Hunter: KGet is not a really good accerelator, you may want to try Aria2, its a CommandLine downloader but extremely fast
[04:00] <Pirate_Hunter> waylandbill: can I have over 20 separate connections on it and cna it look for other url to download from?
[04:00] <mrmagoo_> how to change permission on sda2
[04:00] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: yeah what emilsedgh said
[04:00] <mrmagoo_> i want write it with my user
[04:00] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: k3b is a nero
[04:00] <llutz> mrmagoo_: chmod/chown if it is unix-filesystem
[04:00] <inaety> for linux
[04:00] <emilsedgh> Pirate_Hunter: by Aria2, yeah you can
[04:00] <Pirate_Hunter> emilsedgh: aria2 will check it out online, need to check how complex the command line is before downloading it
[04:00] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: not a download accelerator
[04:01] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: "aria2c www.sfksdjf.exe"
[04:01] <emilsedgh> Pirate_Hunter: thats sooo easy men, try it...
[04:01] <runlevelten> Yeah, we have a copy of Nero for Linux knocking around the office somewhere I think. Never needed it, k3b is fairly good.
[04:01] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: lol i need nero for XP basically I download it on linux and send it to my other partition
[04:01] <runlevelten> http://www.nero.com/eng/NeroLINUX.html
[04:01] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: yeah i assumed
[04:01] <Pirate_Hunter> emilsedgh: will do so but remember what is easy for you may not be easy for me :)
[04:01] <waylandbill> Pirate_Hunter: k3b is a cd/dvd burner. kget is a download manager (not exactly an accelerator like getright or the like)
[04:02] <wers> are there issues with easy ubuntu like with automatix??
[04:02] <emilsedgh> Pirate_Hunter: yeah...right, but you have to try things, im sure you will find it easy too
[04:02] <Pirate_Hunter> waylandbill: the best win accelerator ive used, heck linux needs to upbeat on the software market
[04:02] <Jucato> !easyubuntu | wers
[04:02] <ubotu> wers: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[04:03] <Pirate_Hunter> emilsedgh: lol will do so
[04:03] <Jucato> wers: in Gutsy, though, they will be practically unnecessary on a default installation
[04:03] <Pirate_Hunter> Jucato: i knwo its out but havent seen it available yet
[04:03] <emilsedgh> KGet of KDE4.0 gets lots of love, its now an accerelator (I think)
[04:03] <waylandbill> Pirate_Hunter: I don't use a download accelerator. Generally the servers can send the files fast enough to only need one connection, but mostly I just use official packages.
[04:03] <Pirate_Hunter> Jucato: im guessing that would be on the levels on Vista
[04:04] <Jucato> Pirate_Hunter: huh? what?
[04:04] <Pirate_Hunter> waylandbill: I live far away form the server and nero has some very crappy connections
[04:04] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: have you ever heard of torrents?
[04:04] <Pirate_Hunter> Jucato: gutsy
[04:04] <wers> ok.. thanks jucato (*)
[04:04] <Jucato> oh it won't be out till October
[04:04] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: uhhhh - keep it on the low.......................... I have
[04:04] <Jucato> but it's close to beta 1 now
[04:05] <runlevelten> Gutsy on the level of Vista? Why, has there been some terrible catastrophe that's ruined Gutsy?
[04:05] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: haha torrents aren't illegal
[04:05] <Pirate_Hunter> Jucato: alright ill wait till its out
[04:05] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: that depends on opinions i.e. one mans freedom fighter  is anothewr mans terrorist
[04:05] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: a lot of companies with big files have .torrents so it can be faster like ubuntu
[04:06] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: no its only illegal if you download copyrighted material
[04:06] <runlevelten> Pirate_Hunter: It doesn't depend on opinions at all.
[04:06] <emilsedgh> inaety: Torrent is just a proocol, its like that you say HTTP is illegal!
[04:06] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: Nero is copyrighted, 98% of all torrents are copyrighted
[04:06] <emilsedgh> s/proocol/protocol
[04:06] <teguh> my adept is crash...anyone help me
[04:07] <inaety> listen to emilsedgh
[04:07] <runlevelten> I download, for instance, Debian using bittorrent.
[04:07] <Pirate_Hunter> runlevelten: how did you come to that conclusion
[04:07] <spiroo> waylandbill: k3b almost rocks :D
[04:07] <Pirate_Hunter> runlevelten: Debian is free
[04:07] <teguh> sudo fuser command frezzeee in my konsole
[04:07] <runlevelten> 98% of criminals breathe air. Therefore breathing air is illegal.
[04:07] <Jucato> !adeptfix | teguh
[04:07] <ubotu> teguh: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:07] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: im not saying to download nero by torrent, just that you can get a lot of software that are freely distributed over torrent
[04:07] <Pirate_Hunter> runlevelten: that way of thinking is what makes the world even worse than it already is
[04:08] <Jucato> !offtopic
[04:08] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:08] <runlevelten> Bittorrent is a data transfer protocol. It is simply not illegal, and that's a fact, jack.
[04:08] <teguh> adeptfix how to....im totaly new in ubuntu
[04:08] <Arwen> !adeptfix
[04:08] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:08] <Arwen> you mean that?
[04:08] <spiroo> Btw, does anybody know about this problem, not sure if it is my dvd player or k3b. After I have burned a .img file to a dvd and put in the dvd do the dvd player it says: Cannot recognize format, do you wanna format. Wtf?
[04:08] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: i know but the prob with torrent is that some have virus and I dont trust the person seeding it
[04:08] <Jucato> ....
[04:08] <Pirate_Hunter> Jucato: lol
[04:09] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: haha...
[04:09] <runlevelten> ubuntu/kubuntu/linux distribution depends heavily on bittorrent, which is not illegal in any way, shape or form.
[04:09] <teguh>  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  if i run this commandmy konsole is freeze for a long time
[04:09] <Jucato> if you could please take the torrent discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic thanks
[04:09] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: (-_-)???
[04:10] <Jucato> teguh: just "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a" (don't include the special symbols)
[04:10] <spiroo> anyone knows about the dvd problem with dvd player/K3b?
[04:10] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: nevermind, just know you'll be okay with kubuntu.torrent
[04:10] <Jucato> spiroo: which problem?
[04:10] <Pirate_Hunter> is there any difference in using kubuntu with kde comapred to feyisty with kde
[04:10] <Jucato> O.o
[04:10] <spiroo> Jucato:
[04:10] <spiroo> 	 	 	50	 	0	
[04:10] <spiroo> 	Naturkunskap A		Slutfrd	 	G	 	 	50	 	500	
[04:10] <spiroo> 	Projektarbete		Pgende	 		 	 	100	 	0	
[04:10] <spiroo> 	Programmering B/C++		Pgende	
[04:10] <Jucato> !paste | spiroo
[04:10] <runlevelten> It is not a discussion, it is not chatter. A prime distribution channel for kubuntu is being described as illegal. It is not. End.
[04:10] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: lol there would eb no point infecting that
[04:10] <ubotu> spiroo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:10] <inaety> feisty is kubuntu
[04:11] <teguh> jucato = no offcourse ussualy is working but not this time
[04:11] <Jucato> Pirate_Hunter: Feisty is the nickname for Kubuntu 7.04 release.
[04:11] <Jucato> Pirate_Hunter: each release has a code/nickname associated with it, in the form of "Adjective Animal"
[04:11] <Pirate_Hunter> Jucato: except it uses gnome, see
[04:11] <TraX> Bittorrent was actually designed for the purpose of downloading linux distros
[04:12] <Pirate_Hunter> TraX: didnt know that and it got exploited like everything else does
 is there any difference in using kubuntu with kde comapred to feyisty with kde  <--- that was your question
[04:12] <Pirate_Hunter> Jucato: yeha
[04:12] <Jucato> so what uses GNOME?
[04:13] <Pirate_Hunter> Jucato: Feyisty comes with gnome as default, kubuntu comes with kde as default
[04:13] <Jucato> Feisty is NOT just Ubuntu
[04:13] <Pirate_Hunter> Jucato: you already answered its the same but with different file managers
[04:13] <Jucato> Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn, Kubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn, Xubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn
[04:13] <runlevelten> Pirate_Hunter: Basically, the separation between Kubuntu and Ubuntu is an idea. The two are the same OS.
[04:13] <Pirate_Hunter> Jucato: please expand
[04:14] <teguh> Cannot stat /var/lib/dpkg/lock:sudo: No such file or directory
[04:14] <teguh> Cannot stat /var/lib/dpkg/lock:sudo: No such file or directory
[04:14] <teguh> Cannot stat dpkg: No such file or directory
[04:14] <teguh> Cannot stat dpkg: No such file or directory
[04:14] <Jucato> Pirate_Hunter: each release has a code/nickname associated with it, in the form of "Adjective Animal"
[04:14] <teguh> this my message form konsole
[04:14] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: kubuntu and ubuntu are the same exact thing just every release they name it something different
[04:14] <Pirate_Hunter> teguh: pastebin please pastebin use it
[04:14] <Jucato> teguh: please run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" only
[04:14] <runlevelten> Pirate_Hunter: If it has kubuntu-desktop installed, ubuntu gets called kubuntu. If it has both installed, you can call it what you like.
[04:14] <inaety> kubuntu dapper kubuntu edgy kubuntu feisty
[04:14] <runlevelten> Pirate_Hunter: then there's the XFCE desktop on xubuntu, you get the point :)
[04:14] <Pirate_Hunter> inaety: yeha figured it out and its because each release holds different elements
[04:15] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: i suppose as much
[04:15] <Pirate_Hunter> runlevelten: got it
[04:15] <Jucato> Pirate_Hunter: ok here goes. the "Feisty", "Dapper", "Edgy", "Gutsy" names are just names for different release numbers/dates
[04:15] <inaety> Pirate_Hunter: just every six months they release a new upgrade
[04:15] <Jucato> they have nothing to do with what's installed by default
[04:15] <teguh> and the result just this ""
[04:15] <teguh> Cannot stat /var/lib/dpkg/lock:sudo: No such file or directory
[04:15] <teguh> Cannot stat /var/lib/dpkg/lock:sudo: No such file or directory
[04:15] <teguh> Cannot stat dpkg: No such file or directory
[04:15] <teguh> Cannot stat dpkg: No such file or directory
[04:15] <Jucato> GNOME, KDE,or Xfce
[04:15] <Jucato> !paste | teguh
[04:15] <inaety> !nopaste
[04:15] <ubotu> teguh: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nopaste - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:15] <runlevelten> Those names are the equivalent of 98, ME, 2000, XP, Vista.
[04:15] <inaety> oh woops
[04:15] <Jucato> this is your last warning teguh
[04:16] <runlevelten> Except they don't suck and they don't take five years to get released.
[04:16] <Pirate_Hunter> lol
[04:16] <bimmel> hi guys, i want to know how i can burn an audio cd with k3b, my k3b allways says that it cannot handle *.mp3 files
[04:16] <bimmel> but transcode and lame are already installed
[04:17] <Jucato> bimmel: install the package "libk3b2-mp3"
[04:17] <Jucato> teguh: run "sudo apt-get -f install" and please DO NOT paste the output in here
[04:17] <bimmel> no but i do it right now
[04:17] <teguh> not working anyway
[04:18] <bimmel> thx a lot Jucato
[04:18] <teguh> no no no im type in my konsole
[04:18] <bimmel> bye bye :)
[04:18] <Pirate_Hunter> if m$ were to steal some of the function and ideas of linux they would create good OS
[04:18] <runlevelten> Pirate_Hunter: That's called "Vista".
[04:18] <runlevelten> It didn't work out so good.
[04:18] <Jucato> !offtopic
[04:18] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:18] <martijn81> if vista is a good os they better stop making an OS (sorry)
[04:19] <emilsedgh> Pirate_Hunter: just dont care about windows and ms, just have fun with GNU/Linux, and try to give back to the community
[04:19] <Jucato> again, please. take this discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:19] <emilsedgh> oops, sorry Jucato
[04:19] <Pirate_Hunter> runlevelten: ive seen vista too much theme but still the same windows with more restrictions
[04:19] <Pirate_Hunter> runlevelten: thast there way of saying its more secure
[04:19] <teguh> jucato : "sudo dpkg --configure -a" not working
[04:19] <runlevelten> Right, the topic police thing is getting a bit much for me. I'm off to support users somewhere else. :)
[04:19] <runlevelten> Have fun ;)
[04:20] <Pirate_Hunter> now how do i use Aria2
[04:20] <Jucato> teguh: I gave you another command
[04:20] <emilsedgh> Pirate_Hunter: run aria2c --help
[04:20] <emilsedgh> Pirate_Hunter: in konsole :)
[04:20] <Jucato> teguh: run "sudo apt-get -f install" and please DO NOT paste the output in here
[04:20] <Pirate_Hunter> emilsedgh: kk
[04:21] <TraX> What's a good program to use for creating DVDs from avi files from my hp camera? (I tried DeVeDe and the sound comes out horrible, eg loud distortion and such)
[04:21] <Pirate_Hunter> aria2c --help: im going to just use aria with firefox lets hope flashget works
[04:21] <emilsedgh> TraX: maybe mandvd will help you... ?
[04:22] <teguh> jucato : but if i used "sudo apt-get -f install"...raise warning like this "The list of sources could not be read"
[04:22] <Karti> Hi all, a question. I would like to use Firefox as my main web browser. I was told to enter Firefox32 "%s" in the default applications in the system settings. I understand that it so that it it takes the address and inserts it in the page that I would view. But although it does this it opens two tabs, one is correct and the other is www."%s".com - Any ideas?
[04:22] <TraX> emilsedgh: Have a link for it (I just checked synaptic and couldn't find it there)
[04:22] <Pirate_Hunter> ppl im gone
[04:23] <teguh> jucato:E: Type 'https://gambas.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/gambas/2.0/trunk/https://gam                                                           bas.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/gambas/2.0/trunk/https://gambas.svn.sourceforge.                                                           net/svnroot/gambas/2.0/trunk/svn' is not known on line 35 in source list /etc/ap                                                           t/sources.list
[04:23] <Jucato> teguh: then there's something wrong with your sources.list file.
[04:23] <emilsedgh>  TraX: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=38347
[04:23] <teguh> so how to fixit my brother....
[04:24] <teguh> ussualy im used command "sudo fuser..." is working
[04:24] <Jucato> teguh: only if you promise not to paste long lines of text in here
[04:24] <teguh> ok.....
[04:24] <Jucato> !pastebin
[04:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:24] <mrmagoo_> italiano
[04:25] <Jucato> teguh: using that pastebin link, paste IN THERE the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[04:25] <Jucato> !it | mrmagoo_
[04:25] <ubotu> mrmagoo_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:25] <Jucato> teguh: use the pastebin, don't paste in here. thanks
[04:40] <Jucato> !away > VirtuoS
[04:41] <Jucato> VirtuoS: please turn off your public away messages
[04:41] <VirtuoS> oki
[04:45] <fiyawerx> hey guys, where would be a spot to ask for help to see if I can use the media center remote that came with the hp machine im using with kubuntu now? here? having trouble finding if the usb IR device will work or what drivers to use
[04:46] <harmental_> hey guys...im trying to format a NTFS partition...for that ill start by unmounting it...the problem is that i get this msg...any ideas?
[04:46] <harmental_> no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[04:46] <hydrogen> go to the end of the last line
[04:46] <harmental_> umount: /mnt/vista mount disagrees with the fstab
[04:46] <hydrogen> and press enter
[04:47] <harmental_> hydrogen: thats it??
[04:47] <hydrogen> yes
[04:47] <Jucato> :)
[04:47] <hydrogen> unix files expect a blank line at the end of them
[04:47] <gilby> hello
[04:48] <harmental_> hydrogen: ok...now i get umount: /mnt/vista mount disagrees with the fstab
[04:48] <ekrengel> has anyone done the latest kernel update?
[04:48] <gilby> just installed kubuntu on to my laptop and now need abit of help using and understanding what im doing
[04:48] <hydrogen> harmental_: are you trying as root or as user?
[04:48] <ekrengel> 2.6.20-16?
[04:48] <emilsedgh> gilby: just ask your questions...
[04:49] <harmental_> hydrogen: damn! you re right..thx!
[04:50] <harmental_> another question: is qtparted a safe choice to format a NTFS partition?
[04:56] <rockets> How do I make kopete hide offline contacts?
[04:57] <Jucato> click on the icon in the toolbar
[04:57] <rockets> nvr mind
[04:57] <teguh> jucate : how fix my "APT" data base i used "apt-get" not worked
[04:57] <emilsedgh> rockets: Settings->Hide Offline Users
[04:57] <BluesKaj> harmental_, I've never used qtparted myself , but I hear it's fine ...it's a matter of preference> I prefer GParted live cd :)
[04:58] <teguh> how to see "source list" of adept
[04:59] <emilsedgh> teguh: open /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:59] <emilsedgh> teguh: or use adept
[05:00] <Jucato> emilsedgh: good luck. I tried to help him earlier...
[05:00] <teguh> he he he he he my adept not working right now ""
[05:00] <Jucato> emilsedgh: basically he has a malformed/wrong line in his sources.list. which he'll have to edit manually
[05:00] <Jucato> he's your customer now :P
[05:01] <emilsedgh> Jucato: lol, im not experienced as you, but ill try to help
[05:01] <emilsedgh> teguh: could yo please copy your sources.list to pastebin?
[05:01] <Jucato> you're doing fine. just telling you the background to save you from further digging
[05:01] <Jucato> !pastebin
[05:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:03] <Kr4t05> Beh... I'm trying to use Xubuntu on my laptop, but the NIC has suddenly stopped functioning.
[05:04] <teguh> i how to change
[05:04] <teguh> deb http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted multiverse
[05:04] <teguh> deb-src http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted
[05:04] <teguh> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[05:04] <teguh> ## distribution.
[05:04] <Jucato> emilsedgh: see my problem? :)
[05:04] <teguh> sorry my mistake......
[05:04] <emilsedgh> Jucato: oh yeah!
[05:05] <Jucato> teguh: again, for the last time, please DO NOT paste in here
[05:05] <teguh> hrrgggggg
[05:05] <emilsedgh> teguh: look, you shouldnt copy things here...
[05:05] <teguh> no no no no no sory-sory my mistake
[05:05] <martijn81> anyone know a KDE alternative for gobby? http://gobby.0x539.de/trac/
[05:05] <emilsedgh> no problem teguh
[05:05] <Jucato> martijn81: if you find one, do let me know as well :)
[05:06] <martijn81> i will
[05:06] <Jucato> oh wait..
[05:06] <Jucato> martijn81: http://mateedit.sourceforge.net/
[05:06] <Jucato> not sure if it's exactly like gobby though
[05:07] <martijn81> Jucato: myeah, that is more like notes instead of a real editor with multiple files where your buddylist can work on
[05:08] <martijn81> at least, it looks like that....
[05:08] <martijn81> thanks though
[05:08] <martijn81> :)
[05:09] <teguh> how to change "permission" sourcelist
[05:09] <Jucato> emilsedgh: ^^^
[05:09] <emilsedgh> teguh: type this in run command: kdesu /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:10] <Jucato> emilsedgh: you forgot kate
[05:10] <emilsedgh> teguh: you do not/should not change its permission
[05:10] <martijn81> teguh: /etc/apt/sources.list? why do you want to?
[05:10] <emilsedgh> Jucato: ah fool me!
[05:10] <Jucato> don't worry, got your back :)
[05:10] <emilsedgh> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list    teguh: run this
[05:10] <Jucato> martijn81: trying to fix his sources.list, which is preventing him from opening adept or using apt
[05:10] <teguh> i want delete link "http://gambas....link"
[05:10] <teguh> in source list
[05:11] <martijn81> i see :)
[05:11] <emilsedgh> teguh: run this: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:13] <csn74> slt !!!
[05:13] <csn74> lut
[05:13] <csn74> ...
[05:14] <csn74> au scouuuur :'(
[05:14] <Jucato> !fr
[05:14] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:14] <jcolvin> can anybody help me with my internet?
[05:14] <csn74> salut !
[05:14] <csn74> thanks
[05:15] <teguh> sooooooo MY ADEPT IS WOOORRRRKING AGGAGGAAAAIIIN YEHUIIIIIII GERONIMO
[05:15] <emilsedgh> jcolvin: just ask your question...
[05:15] <teguh> THANK A LOT JUCATO AND EMIL
[05:15] <jcolvin> i'm having trouble setting up the broadcom mini PC 1350 card
[05:16] <emilsedgh> Jucato: thanks :P
[05:16] <teguh> HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAH A HA
[05:16] <Jucato> !caps
[05:16] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:16] <jcolvin> i'm following a step-by-step on the ubuntu forums but it got confusing
[05:16] <emilsedgh> Jucato: I would prefer Beer
[05:16] <Jucato> :)
[05:17] <emilsedgh> jcolvin: I have such experience with ndiswrapper, please first install it from adept manager
[05:17] <Jucato> let me borrow ubotu for a moment
[05:17] <Jucato> !ram
[05:17] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[05:17] <jcolvin> ok
[05:20] <jcolvin> emilsedgh: which category is it in adept manager. I can't find it when I search for it
[05:20] <Jucato> System
[05:20] <Jucato> K Menu -> System -> Adept Manager
[05:21] <emilsedgh> :)
[05:21] <jcolvin> yes i'm in adept installer already
[05:21] <Jucato> er that would be different
[05:22] <emilsedgh> jcolvin: so only search for ndiswrapper, you do not need to specify category
[05:22] <Jucato> Adept Installer = Add/Remove Programs
[05:22] <jcolvin> i meant adept manager
[05:22] <Jucato> ok :)
[05:22] <jcolvin> its not finding ndiswrapper
[05:23] <emilsedgh> jcolvin: ok, run this in konsole: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common
[05:23] <teguh> how to use "manage repository"
[05:24] <jcolvin> emilsedgh: it said couldn't find package ndiswrapper-common
[05:25] <emilsedgh> jcolvin: so in adept manager, could you please go to Adept (menu) -> Manage Repositories
[05:25] <Edus> hi. how can i edit shutdown button on kubuntu??
[05:25] <Jucato> Edus: edit in what way?
[05:26] <Edus> edit shutdown command whit some parameters
[05:26] <Jucato> ah...
[05:26] <emilsedgh> jcolvin: then see if all of the checkboxes in the 'Kubuntu Software' are checked...
[05:26] <Jucato> + -security and -updates
[05:27] <Jucato> but not on Dapper or Edgy...
[05:27] <jcolvin> emilsedgh: i found a step-by-step on the forum to install it...its almost done
[05:27] <emilsedgh> jcolvin: so have fun using it ;)
[05:27] <Jucato> Edus: not sure if it's what you're looking for, but K Menu -> System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Login Manager -> Shutdown tab
[05:27] <Edus> jucato: what are -security and -updates?
[05:27] <waylandbill> Jucato is correct. All the 'official' repos are enabled as of feisty
[05:28] <Jucato> Edus: security and bug fixes repository, and updates repository
[05:28] <Jucato> !repositories
[05:28] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:28] <Jucato> I give up on kaddressbook!!!!
[05:29] <emilsedgh> Jucato: why? that should be stable..
[05:30] <Jucato> it is. hasn't crashed or bugged :)
[05:30] <emilsedgh> oops
[05:30] <Jucato> I would just like to strangle it right now :)
[05:30] <teguh> what the name application similar with "limewire" in ubuntu
[05:31] <Jucato> !frostwire | teguh
[05:31] <ubotu> teguh: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[05:31] <emilsedgh> teguh: maybe you want to use torrent (with ktorrent), but you could use Apollon too
[05:31] <Edus> When i shutdown on kubuntu, i hear a strange sound. what it might be?
[05:31] <jcolvin> Code:
[05:31] <jcolvin> uname -r
[05:32] <jcolvin> Insert the output of the uname -r command into the following 2 commands where the numbers are at
[05:32] <jcolvin> 
[05:32] <jcolvin>  7.
[05:32] <jcolvin> 
[05:32] <jcolvin> Code:
[05:32] <jcolvin> sudo aptitude install linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic
[05:32] <jcolvin> what does that mean?
[05:32] <jcolvin> i'm confused where to put "uname -r"
[05:32] <Jucato> !paste | jcolvin
[05:32] <ubotu> jcolvin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:33] <Jucato> jcolvin: save yourself the trouble and just install linux-headers-generic
[05:33] <Jucato> you are on edgy or feisty, aren't you?
[05:33] <emilsedgh> jcolvin: try running this: sudo aptitude linux-headers-`uname -r`
[05:33] <p> canal en espaol
[05:34] <jcolvin> This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers.
[05:34] <Jucato> !es | p
[05:34] <ubotu> p: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:34] <jcolvin> thats what it said
[05:34] <p> buenas
[05:34] <p> buenas
[05:34] <Jucato> jcolvin: I think you forgot to use sudo
[05:34] <salva> hi, I've got a problem installing SuSE 10.3 after I installed kubuntu... Anybody can help me with the grub? Thanks
[05:34] <p> thanks Jucato
[05:34] <Jucato> de nada (am I right?)
[05:35] <jcolvin> jucato: no i didn't
[05:35] <jcolvin> jucato: do i have to be in the root shell?
[05:35] <Jucato> jcolvin: not root shell, but you need to use sudo
[05:35] <Jucato> !sudo | jcolvin
[05:35] <ubotu> jcolvin: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:35] <jcolvin> i did put "sudo" in front of the command
[05:36] <Sylenze> hello!
[05:36] <mathieu__> is there a way to force ktorrent to always start in a given directory and with all files?
[05:37] <Sylenze> ask google D:
[05:37] <Jucato> the new ktorrent's behavior for picking directories to download to is annoying :(
[05:37] <Sylenze> hi
[05:37] <Sylenze> then why don't you install another torrent application?
[05:38] <Jucato> jcolvin: what's the exact command that you used?
[05:38] <Jucato> Sylenze: because aside from that, I like ktorrent. and that wasn't the default behavior before the current version
[05:38] <Sylenze> Jucato: i see. Sorry, but i never used ktorrent...
[05:38] <Sylenze> hi
[05:39] <Sylenze> is it normal that the Konsole gives me VERY long message blocks if i want to compile Pidgin?
[05:40] <emilsedgh> Sylenze: yes
[05:40] <Sylenze> emilsedgh: ow... maybe it's because it has to include those libs?
[05:41] <emilsedgh> stylus: its just GCC's output (I think), do not pay attention to it
[05:41] <jcolvin> sudo aptitude linux-headers-uname -r
[05:41] <Sylenze> after the "make" finished, i typed "make install". i got this error:   make: *** [install-recursive]  Error 1
[05:42] <Arkard> Hi everybody
[05:42] <Sylenze> hi!
[05:42] <Sylenze> what can i do now =x
[05:42] <emilsedgh> stylus: you should do that with sudo
[05:43] <emilsedgh> stylus: sudo make install
[05:43] <Arkard> need help again T_T
[05:43] <Arkard> i was about to install my Nvidia Driver
[05:43] <Arkard> but i cant find my Linux-Source
[05:43] <Sylenze> emilsedgh: me too?
[05:44] <emilsedgh> ah
[05:44] <fatty> can someone point me to some documentation on how I can access my ubuntu box's drives, from my windows pc?
[05:44] <emilsedgh> Sylenze: yeah you should do that sorry
[05:44] <Arkard> wait, is downloading
[05:44] <Sylenze> emilsedgh: thanks i'll try.
[05:44] <dthacker> !samba | fatty
[05:44] <ubotu> fatty: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:44] <Sylenze> wow that was... oh.
[05:44] <fatty> thank you
[05:44] <Sylenze> it worked ^___^ thanks emilsedgh!
[05:44] <dthacker> np
[05:45] <emilsedgh> np Sylenze
[05:45] <Arkard> can anybody use Beryl?
[05:45] <Sylenze> another question: what's a good dictionary for Kubuntu?
[05:46] <llutz> Sylenze: ding, kdict
[05:46] <Arkard> Dictionary? for what? find concepts?
[05:46] <Sylenze> Ilutz: thanks
[05:46] <edulix> hi!
[05:46] <johannes> hi
[05:46] <Arkard> Hi
[05:47] <Sylenze> i don't like Gnome and gtk! (just wanted to say that)
[05:47] <johannes> can anyone tell me how I can get acces to my windows harddisks??
[05:47] <johannes> or is there a tutorial for that?
[05:47] <grul> !ntfs
[05:47] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:47] <edulix> when I enter in the run command dialog (alt+f2) something like irc://irc.ffreenode.net/kde it tries to open kopete. how to change it to konversation?
[05:48] <aguitel> johannes, the command is :ntfs-config ,find information about this
[05:48] <johannes> ok thanks
[05:48] <emilsedgh> edulix: you have to change it from systemsettings->advanced->prefered applications (I think)
[05:49] <Sylenze> yay i have pidgin ^__^
[05:49] <yaccin> what program do i use for making DVDs of avi/mpg files and create a nice menu?
[05:49] <Jucato> edulix: System Settings -> Default applications
[05:50] <emilsedgh> yaccin: mandvd
[05:50] <martijn81> yaccin: mandvd probably, see highest rated apps on kde-apps.org
[05:50] <yaccin> ok ill try that, thx :)
[05:50] <edulix> Jucato: I'm there, and now click in Instant Menssenger, and it effectively has kopete selected. the problem now is, it doesn't let me choose any other one (konversation)
[05:51] <TraX> yaccin: ManDVD or DeVeDe will work but you might have to convert the avi/mpg to a wav to get the sound to work correctly
[05:51] <Arkard> Cya in a minute with my new Nvidia Driver Installed
[05:51] <Arkard> and thanks for help
[05:51] <Arkard> specially thanks to TraX
[05:51] <yaccin> Trhmm that could be a problem :D
[05:51] <edulix> Jucato: does that also happen to you?
[05:52] <Jucato> let me try
[05:52] <Jucato> yeah it does
[05:52] <Sylenze> my eyes hurt on the big resolution
[05:52] <jasj> hi, i have  a problem when i try to accses to a disk, with other user tath it's not the root
[05:53] <teguh> jucato:where is, if i want learn all command in ubuntu
[05:53] <Jucato> !commandline
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about commandline - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <Jucato> er..
[05:53] <Jucato> !cli
[05:53] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:53] <Jucato> teguh: follow that link above ^^^
[05:53] <teguh> ok thank a lot....
[05:54] <jasj> hi
[05:54] <edulix> Jucato: should it be in "File associations" > "URI" ?
[05:54] <Sylenze> the best would be to give the console a shortcut, like alt+ctrl+c
[05:54] <emilsedgh> bbl
[05:54] <Jucato> not really sure edulix... you might want to ask in #konversation
[05:54] <Sylenze> namol: hello!
[05:54] <jasj> hi i can not oppen my other disk in a normal user, just in safe mode with root
[05:55] <edulix> ok thanks Jucato ;)
[05:55] <Sylenze> Kubuntu is the best OS ever!
[05:56] <teguh> yess   X K U -buntu
[05:57] <jasj> kubuntu was the best, now its ... maybe suse, bucouse kubuntu have a problems with disk in others users and can not br installed in raisr 4
[05:57] <jasj> becouse
[05:58] <Sylenze> *because?
[05:58] <Sylenze> lol
[05:58] <Sylenze> ya i can't read my DvD
[05:59] <Sylenze> ubuntu isn't good. gnome has serious problems with the window frames...
[05:59] <jasj> well i prefer kubundo kde its more beatifull
[05:59] <teguh> jucato where the link "borland kylix" in adept
[05:59] <Sylenze> ok maybe ubuntu with KDE, but why don't get Kubuntu then ;D
[05:59] <jasj> yes kubuntu its better than ubuntu
[06:00] <yaccin> if i doenloaded a .deb... can i install it with aptitude or do i have to use dpkg -i?
[06:00] <Sylenze> another question: how can make the command sudo -i only accesible for the user "sylenze"?
[06:00] <jasj> but both have a problems with disk
[06:00] <jasj> try gksu, its better or download the fakeroot
[06:00] <inaety> is there anyway to get kde looking like windows vista? i cant find any good windwos decorations or anything out ther
[06:00] <Jucato> yaccin: dpkg. or just right-click on it
[06:00] <Sylenze> jasj: with disk? you mean hardrive or cd's/dvd's?
[06:00] <inaety> there
[06:01] <Jucato> jasj: gksu doesn't work on Kubuntu. we use kdesu for it
[06:01] <jasj> harddrive, my ntfs partition
[06:01] <Sylenze> jasj: oh, i see.
[06:01] <Jucato> inaety: tried searching http://kde-look.org
[06:01] <yaccin> Jucato: gdebi always crashes when i try to use it
[06:01] <jasj> i am using gksu in kde, work perfectly
[06:01] <inaety> Jucato: i have..
[06:01] <Jucato> yaccin: on feisty, we don't use gdebi. on gutsy, there's a gdebi-kde program
[06:02] <yaccin> yes it crashes ^^
[06:02] <Jucato> yaccin: like I said, right-click on the .deb package and select Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package
[06:02] <Jucato> are you on Feisty or Gutsy?
[06:02] <yaccin> and when i use dpkg i get a lot of unresolved dependencies
[06:02] <yaccin> and if i try to resolve these i just get more -_-
[06:02] <Sylenze> how are the "executables" for kubuntu called? i mean the ending, like testexecutable.*
[06:02] <Jucato> well, that's the nature of dpkg...
[06:02] <yaccin> gutsy
[06:02] <jasj> ok but where i can download the kdesu
[06:02] <teguh> or cd "places debfilename" then  sudo dpkg -i "debfilename.deb" sorry
[06:02] <jasj> are not in the repostory
[06:02] <tsdgeos> Sylenze: executables on linux have no extension
[06:03] <Sylenze> tsdgeos: i'm confused
[06:03] <tsdgeos> Sylenze: why?
[06:03] <Jucato> jasj: it's part of kde when you install it. you don't need to separately install it
[06:03] <Jucato> oooh tsdgeos is here :)
[06:03] <Sylenze> tsdgeos: how do you know which program to use then?
[06:03] <jasj> ok
[06:03] <Jucato> Sylenze: by their name and their permission...
[06:03] <jasj> it the same og gnome
[06:03] <tsdgeos> Sylenze: ??==??==?? what has extension have to do with knowing the program name?
[06:03] <tsdgeos> if i want to run kpdf
[06:03] <tsdgeos> i run
[06:04] <tsdgeos> kpdf
[06:04] <tsdgeos> and i'm done
[06:04] <Sylenze> tsdgeos: that's cool
[06:04] <Jucato> tsdgeos: when you come from Windows/MS-DOS, you get that mentality :)
[06:04] <Sylenze> tsdgeos: but still confusing me =/
[06:04] <Jucato> quite hard to shake off if you're new
[06:04] <Sylenze> i was using WindowsXP before kubuntu. now i'm confused.
[06:05] <Jucato> Sylenze: each file (and folder) in Linux (or any Unix for that matter) has permissions. There's an executable permission for it. So if it's a program, naturally it has the executable permissions turned on
[06:05] <Jucato> actually, you can make any file executable, of course that doesn't mean that they will run :)
[06:05] <Sylenze> yes...
[06:05] <Sylenze> and
[06:05] <Jucato> and?
[06:06] <Sylenze> i'm a c# programmer, but Mono Develop is GTK, is there a KDE alternative?
[06:06] <Dannilionz> it means that the files do not need an extension to be able to run- they don't need a .exe
[06:06] <Sylenze> GTK is to buggy for me =x
[06:06] <TraX> Sylenze: I'm using MonoDevelop in KDE
[06:06] <Sylenze> Dannilionz: i know
[06:06] <Sylenze> TraX: but i hate GTK
[06:06] <ubuntu> test
[06:06] <tsdgeos> Sylenze: try kdevelop, not sure if it has C# support, though
[06:07] <tsdgeos> ubuntu: test succeded
[06:07] <Sylenze> noooo! ubuntu sneaked into kubuntu!
[06:07] <Sylenze> tsdgeos: ok i'll try
[06:07] <jasj> kubuntu rules
[06:07] <Sylenze> maybe i could use visual c# with wine? oO
[06:07] <jasj> yes
[06:07] <Sylenze> (WinE?!)
[06:07] <Sylenze> jasj: seksi!
[06:07] <Jucato> Sylenze: I think the Qt bindings for C# is called Qyoto and the KDE bindings are called Kimono
[06:08] <TraX> Sylenze: If you get it to work in wine let me know
[06:08] <Sylenze> TraX: yesh
[06:08] <noone> asdf
[06:08] <jasj> kdevelop
[06:08] <Sylenze> but i would need netfx i think
[06:08] <teguh> he he he he me too sylenze im confuse with gtk but i founded "eclipse"
[06:08] <Sylenze> ok
[06:08] <Sylenze> that makes no sense
[06:09] <jasj> yes in don work great if you not have al least the wine 9.6
[06:09] <Sylenze> but windows isn't good because it has no reposoritys!
[06:09] <jasj> and becouse no have a comunity
[06:09] <jasj> like this
[06:09] <Sylenze> Kdevelop: an IDE for programming applications in X11? isn't that mac?
[06:10] <jasj> no k mean kede
[06:10] <BluesKaj> ever read the book "Open Kimono" by Seymour Hare ?.....very very ancient joke :)
[06:10] <Sylenze> kedevelop? what?! @_@
[06:10] <jasj> kdevelop is for kde users like kubuntu users
[06:10] <teguh> common we in ubuntu world....in others
[06:10] <Sylenze> BluesKaj: still funny =0
[06:10] <jasj> i yo could make windows application too
[06:11] <Sylenze> wait i have another problem!!!
[06:11] <Jucato> KDevelop supports python and Ruby, C/C++, and KDE
[06:11] <Jucato> !away > esteve
[06:11] <jasj> and pascal
[06:11] <Sylenze> if i'd use visual c#, i would only be able to make Windows applications! damn!
[06:11] <Sylenze> isn't there a c# building for kdevelop? =(
[06:11] <teguh> use "eclipse' maybe help...
[06:11] <Arkard> Hi again
[06:11] <jasj> and java it'sa ide multiplatafor,multilanguage develoment suite need qt3 or grater
[06:11] <Sylenze> eclipse is gtk, too...
[06:12] <TraX> Arkard: How did it go?
[06:12] <jasj> yes c sharp also
[06:12] <Arkard> bad TraX
[06:12] <Arkard> still having problems
[06:12] <Arkard> when the driver ends
[06:12] <Sylenze> there should be a visual c# clone =x
[06:12] <salva> LO! anybody knows how to create an entry in the grub (menu.lst) for load openSuSE10,3
[06:12] <Arkard> it says Unable to load Kernel module 'nvidia.ko'
[06:12] <teguh> yeaahhh but great for me i can make windows application
[06:13] <Arkard> whats wrong now TraX?
[06:13] <Sylenze> Move the C# language part into kdevelop4-extra-plugins. It features a fully-functional parser and a binder that hooks[...] 
[06:14] <TraX> Is that still during the nvidia installer or after when you try to boot?
[06:14] <efface> i am having a problem with getting my internet to work on my other desktop, ive tried everything i could find on the web, someone mind helping?
[06:14] <Arkard> in the Nvidia Installer TraX
[06:14] <jasj> Sylenze: you use kubuntu or ubuntu
[06:14] <oldboy_> hi
[06:15] <Arkard> hi
[06:15] <Sylenze> hi
[06:15] <Sylenze> jasj: kubuntu!
[06:15] <teguh> hi hi hi
[06:15] <Sylenze> hi
[06:15] <oldboy_> i need a nice video transcoding app for kde
[06:15] <jasj> ubuntu is verry bad, the desktop evrioment is gnome and gnome its gtk so is verry uglu
[06:15] <jasj> ugly
[06:16] <jasj> a ok
[06:16] <oldboy_> do you guys know of one?
[06:16] <TraX> Arkard: Did you make sure you had the build essentials and kernel headers?
[06:16] <Sylenze> gtk is ***$%"!!!*!!!
[06:16] <richard_> how do you install themes on kde
[06:16] <jasj> so kdevelop its perfect to you
[06:16] <Sylenze> oldboy search the reposority!
[06:16] <Sylenze> with the keywords on description
[06:16] <oldboy_> i've been search for like an hour
[06:16] <jasj> just keep something in your mind, develop free software
[06:16] <Sylenze> that's bad =(
[06:17] <Sylenze> i heard of Jashaki
[06:17] <oldboy_> searching
[06:17] <Sylenze> wait... Jahshaka
[06:17] <Sylenze> oldboy_: it was Jahshaka
[06:17] <jasj> well someone nkow how i can fix my problem
[06:18] <Sylenze> jasj: what problem?
[06:18] <jasj> I not have accses to ntfs disk in my local user whit root privileges, just if ia am the root
[06:19] <Arkard> yes TraX and the Linux Source too
[06:19] <oldboy_> thanks Sylenze, but that looks like too much
[06:19] <oldboy_> i just need a simple front end to ffmpeg or mencode
[06:19] <Sylenze> jasj: i make only free software. here's a banner of my "1 man corporation":  http://tinyurl.com/ysm2px
[06:19] <Sylenze> oldboy_: then try searching "SUPER"
[06:20] <Sylenze> i don't know if it's available for linux, though
[06:20] <TraX> Arkard: What exactly did the error say?
[06:20] <jasj> and when i run konqueror as a root in my local acount, i can see the files but, i can no run the executables and mltimediafiles, and open office, just the imgs
[06:20] <teguh> how to ...if i want run "kubuntu" and "windows xp" in then same comp and at the same time...
[06:21] <jasj> first install wwindows them instal kubuntu
[06:21] <Sylenze> jasj: you have no write acces to your LINUX partition or windows partition?
[06:21] <Arkard> TraX unable to load kernel module 'nvidia.ko' see the file /etc/log/nvidia-installer.log for more information
[06:22] <Sylenze> test
[06:22] <jasj> if you want to have accses to your windows partition disk in linux the present the you windows partiton have to be fat32 or less
[06:22] <teguh> no no like that .in same time "i work vb in windows xp" then i open "adept mana in kubuntu"
[06:22] <jasj> windows partition in linux
[06:22] <dewd> Hi I installed nxclient which wants to install libstdc++-someversion this action caused aptitude wanting to uninstall al LOT of packages, installing it with apt-get did not give me this problem
[06:22] <TraX> Arkard: If the nvidia-installer.log says something about the gcc version then use sudo sh nvidiadrivername.run -k$(uname -r)
[06:23] <dewd> but now every action I do with aptitude still want to remove all those packages
[06:23] <llutz> jasj: linux can use ntfs with ntfs-3g, win-xp can read/write ext3 with drivers from fs-drivers-org. no need for fat32
[06:23] <Sylenze> i need serious help! is "pnet" for making windows executables or Linux ones?
[06:23] <dewd> it says it is unused but I use them .. how to reset this stupid behaviour ?
[06:23] <Arkard> let me see TraX
[06:23] <jasj> i have installed this its ok but in root
[06:24] <fritsch> Sylenze: apt-cache show says it is used for .net applications
[06:24] <fritsch> Sylenze: .net is windows, isn`t it?
[06:24] <jasj> in local user no
[06:24] <Sylenze> fritsch: but maybe it's a dotnet port for linux? =O
[06:24] <elite101> hello!
[06:24] <fritsch> Sylenze: i think mono would be mentioned here ...
[06:24] <Sylenze> elite101: hello!
[06:25] <Sylenze> fritsch: gtk sux
[06:25] <GoodHabit> gtk really sux.
[06:25] <GoodHabit> But
[06:25] <GoodHabit> Why ubuntustudio on gtk?
[06:25] <jasj> yes gtk its ugly
[06:25] <GoodHabit> Why ubuntu - always 1st @ distrowatch?
[06:26] <GoodHabit> Kuubntu has 16th place
[06:26] <Sylenze> GoodHabit: where?
[06:26] <Arkard> TraX, may i send you a txt with the Error as the Screen says?
[06:26] <dewd> so how to reset aptitude that it does not want to complete some (unwanted by me) action
[06:26] <GoodHabit> Sylenze: distrowatch[dot] com
[06:27] <Sylenze> GoodHabit: i see
[06:27] <llutz> GoodHabit: ask those stupid questions to those, who voted
[06:27] <elite101> www.distrowatch.com
[06:27] <GoodHabit> Heh. I am using subj and know what gtk is sucks. But gtk is more popular.
[06:27] <TraX> Arkard: If dcc send doesn't work use a pastebin and give me the link
[06:28] <GoodHabit> So maybe smth will change when kde 4 will release.
[06:28] <Arkard> what is a pastebin?
[06:28] <GoodHabit> And why canonical ubuntu are developed more than kubuntu?
[06:28] <GoodHabit> ^)
[06:28] <GoodHabit> Arkard: pastebin - site for share a text or code
[06:28] <GoodHabit> nopaste.com
[06:28] <GoodHabit> Or others.
[06:29] <Arkard> Ok, thanks
[06:29] <jasj> i dont now but gnome its 3 levels down abobe kde
[06:29] <GoodHabit> jasj: sry, what about you r speaking?
[06:29] <soulrider_> !samba
[06:29] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:29] <GoodHabit> I mean I dont understanding.
[06:29] <fritsch> jasj: you cannot say this. some very good kde applications are missing (k3b, konversation ...), but gnome is very integrated
[06:30] <GoodHabit> Not very.
[06:30] <GoodHabit> I am using kubuntu and ubuntustudio.
[06:30] <GoodHabit> Artwork @ ubuntustudio is better )
[06:30] <Arkard> TraX http://nopaste.com/p/aDLNU0NIW
[06:30] <GoodHabit> But KDE is integrated much more.
[06:30] <jasj> (is a chat)look this you can work in kde like gnome, but gnome like kde... no kde its configurable but gnome its ...
[06:31] <TraX> Arkard: What is the file name of the nvidia.run you are using?
[06:32] <waylandbill> kde's library reuse is very effecient.
[06:32] <Arkard> i rename it
[06:32] <jussi01> !offtopic | GoodHabit:
[06:32] <ubotu> GoodHabit:: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:32] <GoodHabit> Somebody can show the samba config working shared on homenetwork?
[06:32] <Arkard> let me find it again
[06:32] <GoodHabit> jussi01: Ty.
[06:32] <jussi01> :)
[06:32] <TraX> Ok, just use sudo sh whateveryourenameditto.run -k$(uname -r)
[06:32] <jussi01> GoodHabit: btw, there is no gutsy update for ubuntu studio as yet
[06:33] <Arkard> Trax NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run
[06:33] <TraX> Arkard: sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run -k$ (uname -r)
[06:33] <GoodHabit> jussi01: Ty again!
[06:34] <Arkard> let me try TraX
[06:34] <Arkard> see ya in a minute
[06:34] <TraX> Arkard: the -k$(uname -r) at the end should get it to work just fine
[06:34] <GoodHabit> Em..  <TraX> Arkard: sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run - why don't using the repo-drivers?
[06:34] <Okapi> hello to all
[06:34] <Arkard> Sorry, TraX can you repeat me the Command?
[06:35] <TraX> Arkard: sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run -k$(uname -r)
[06:35] <Arkard> i forgot to write it :P
[06:35] <Arkard> Thanks
[06:35] <GoodHabit> Em..  <TraX> Arkard: sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run - why don't using the repo-drivers?
[06:35] <TraX> GoodHabit: Some people can't get the repository drivers to work for their cards (eg my 8800gts)
[06:35] <GoodHabit> TraX: Even nvidia-glx-new does not help?!
[06:36] <Arkard> K BRB
[06:36] <Sylenze> hey a question
[06:36] <Sylenze> anyone knows Enlightment?
[06:36] <GoodHabit> Haha.
[06:36] <GoodHabit> Yes.
[06:36] <Sylenze> it's a distro right
[06:36] <TraX> GoodHabit: I kept getting a "Failed to load module v41" error
[06:36] <GoodHabit> Everybody i think. But is it offtopic?
[06:36] <Okapi> I have this error when I start my pc: Kernet panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0). Any one can help?
[06:37] <llutz> Sylenze: it's a window-manager
[06:37] <GoodHabit> TraX: It is a only yours problem, or general?
[06:37] <Sylenze> Ilutz: something like KDE or like Konqueror?
[06:37] <anthronaut> GoodHabit: This was today's big question in #kubuntu. "But is is offtopic?"
[06:37] <llutz> Sylenze: something like kwin, fluxbox, icewm, xfwm
[06:37] <GoodHabit> )
[06:37] <Sylenze> Ilutz: what?!
[06:38] <Sylenze> T_T
[06:38] <szachista> nope, e17 is like duke nukem 3d ;)
[06:38] <GoodHabit> Sylenze: What problem u have with enlighment?
[06:38] <TraX> GoodHabit: I'm not sure why he has to use the nvidia binary but he said he needed help with it
[06:38] <llutz> Sylenze: google for "window manager" they will explain you the difference. KDE is a desktop environment, more than just a wm
[06:38] <Sylenze> Ilutz: and konqueror?
[06:39] <GoodHabit> Mb he don't know about repo?
[06:39] <llutz> Sylenze: is a browser
[06:39] <Sylenze> GoodHabit: i saw it on a video. with cool lighting effects
[06:39] <anthronaut> Sylenze: Enlightenment is not a Linix Distribution, it's a Window Manager. That's a piece of software that''s responsible fow windows are displayed.
[06:39] <szachista> Sylenze: new e17 is very unstable
[06:39] <Sylenze> Ilutz: ok
[06:39] <GoodHabit> It is bad to install to debian-like distros without packet manager.
[06:39] <Arkard> Im back again
[06:39] <szachista> Sylenze: you shouldn't install it if your'e not a developer
[06:39] <Sylenze> anthronaut: and how's enlightment's dristro called?
[06:39] <Arkard> and nothing
[06:40] <GoodHabit> Sylenze: Enlighnment is not good decision for kubuntu. Why dont want to try beryl? Or some beta of compiz-fusion?
[06:40] <szachista> Sylenze: elive
[06:40] <Sylenze> GoodHabit: no please listen
[06:40] <Sylenze> szachista: thanks
[06:40] <anthronaut> Sylenze: Enlightenment can be used with any disribution out there. It works on top of them.
[06:40] <TraX> Arkard: Same error?
[06:40] <Arkard> nop, another
[06:40] <Sylenze> i only wanted to say it has cool light effects =x
[06:40] <Arkard> here: http://nopaste.com/p/aDqEN1dPM
[06:40] <GoodHabit> )
[06:40] <TraX> Arkard: Did you try using the drivers from the repositories?
[06:40] <jasj> #kde_vs_gnome
[06:41] <GoodHabit> Sylenze: U must to install it now ) Or die )
[06:41] <inaety> Arkard: install the legacy drivers?
[06:41] <Sylenze> GoodHabit: but i allready have a window manager i think
[06:41] <Arkard> let me see
[06:41] <anthronaut> Sylenze: You most probably do
[06:41] <GoodHabit> Sylenze: I was jokening...
[06:41] <Sylenze> noez D:
[06:41] <jasj> sylenze are you female???
[06:42] <Sylenze> jasj: no are you male???
[06:42] <fritsch> :-)
[06:42] <szachista> Sylenze: damn, are you gay? :P
[06:42] <GoodHabit> Sylenze: Where r u from?
[06:42] <GoodHabit> )
[06:42] <Sylenze> szachista: why?!
[06:42] <Sylenze> GoodHabit: why?!
[06:42] <szachista> 18:52	Sylenze	jasj: no are you male???
[06:42] <GoodHabit> Sylenze: It was joke again )
[06:42] <pag> !offtopic
[06:42] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:43] <Arkard> TraX Nvidia-glx-Legacy or nvidia-legacy-kernel-source?
[06:43] <Okapi> I have this error when I start my pc: Kernet panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0). Any one can help?
[06:43] <Sylenze> GoodHabit: that was no joke, you don't make sense =x
[06:43] <Sylenze> wtf! Ati driver for linux is 40MB?!
[06:44] <tim> you recon its got a load of software side hardware acceleration in it?
[06:44] <GoodHabit> Sylenze: #badwords
[06:44] <tim> *you recon its got a load of software side 3D acceleration in it?
[06:44] <arash> Hi, how do I do complrete reinstall of Kmix. so it dont remember what I said to it before
[06:44] <TraX> Arkard: You might have to google it or ask around here (i'm not entirely sure how the install process goes for those)
[06:45] <inaety> is there anyway to make it so i can run freevo without root priveledges?
[06:45] <Arkard> K, man Thanks
[06:45] <Sylenze> GoodHabit: i guess that was... a joke? xD
[06:45] <TraX> Arkard: You could probably get the nvidia binary driver to work but that would require a kernel build
[06:46] <GoodHabit> Sylenze: No, I just wanna to say what u r speaking dirty.
[06:46] <Arkard> ah
[06:46] <Sylenze> GoodHabit: i don't speak dirty...
 wtf! Ati driver for linux is 40MB?! - what means "wt*"? U r dirty-speaker. Stop flooding please.
[06:46] <tsdgeos> Sylenze: well, GoodHabit thinks wtf is a bad word
[06:47] <GoodHabit> )
[06:48] <tim> policy decision here, is OMG a bad word? some people thing profaning the lords name counts as a curse
[06:48] <GoodHabit> Not a cure actually.
[06:48] <szachista> tim: no, as long as it's MY god
[06:48] <GoodHabit> But it is bad too.
[06:48] <GoodHabit> :o)
[06:49] <mneptok> it's probably fine if not overused.
[06:49] <GoodHabit> What web-browser have kde4?
[06:49] <llutz> Oh My whoo
[06:49] <mneptok> that's my personal opinion.
[06:49] <szachista> GoodHabit: konqueror
[06:49] <tsdgeos> GoodHabit: kde4 is not released, so no browser yet ;-)
[06:49] <szachista> GoodHabit: i've tried it 2 weeks ago, nothing new :(
[06:49] <GoodHabit> Strange.
[06:49] <GoodHabit> There is a dolphin.
[06:49] <GoodHabit> But no web-browser...
[06:50] <tim> are we expecting KDE 4 to be in the next kbuntu release?
[06:50] <szachista> http://www.imgplace.com/directory/dir729/1187182577.png
[06:50] <llutz> tim: nope, in 8.04
[06:50] <Arkard> The repo Legacy is Broken
[06:50] <szachista> http://www.imgplace.com/directory/dir729/1187182621.png
[06:50] <szachista> argh... it's so ugly
[06:50] <Sylenze> GoodHabit: sorry but i allways say wtf... maybe i can try to say wth oO
[06:50] <szachista> i was expecting much more from kde4
[06:51] <GoodHabit> How I can switch off on konversation join|
[06:51] <GoodHabit> How I can switch off on konversation join|part messages and timestampes?
[06:51] <GoodHabit> I cannot find option (
[06:51] <GoodHabit> Or i need to install another IRC client? What other clients kde have?
[06:52] <llutz> GoodHabit: settings, chat-window
[06:52] <TraX> GoodHabit: kvirc is one of them
[06:52] <zgmf-x20a> hey anyone know where vlc media player installs to???????
[06:53] <szachista> zgmf-x20a: how did you install it?
[06:53] <zgmf-x20a> thru adept szachista
[06:53] <szachista> zgmf-x20a: external package? sources? package from repaos?
[06:53] <szachista> zgmf-x20a: you can list files installed by a package
[06:53] <szachista> zgmf-x20a: i think adept has this function, synaptic can do this
[06:54] <zgmf-x20a> szachista: erm, well im looking thru the files in my system b/c im trying to associate it with online media
[06:54] <zgmf-x20a> so i dont have to download it
[06:54] <zgmf-x20a> so im at filesystem now, and which subfolder would it be in??
[06:54] <szachista> zgmf-x20a: why do you use vlc anyway?
[06:55] <Sylenze> man... i don't want to develope c# in gtk =(
[06:55] <szachista> zgmf-x20a: i'm not a fanboy of any media player, but vlc really sucks, it's good only for streaming media
[06:55] <szachista> zgmf-x20a: /usr/bin/vlc, /usr/share/vlc and so on
[06:55] <szachista> zgmf-x20a: that's where it keeps file on my system
[06:56] <zgmf-x20a> szachista: i use it b/c it has good codec supprt.  everything else sucks and requires me to find/install packages
[06:56] <szachista> zgmf-x20a: i would recommend you smpalyer + mplayer + w32codecs
[06:56] <GoodHabit> Can smb share config file of samba? The kubuntu options @ control center does not work, nobody can use my share, they cannot enter to my shared folders.
[06:56] <szachista> zgmf-x20a: smplayer is not in repositories, but it's the best frontend i've seen so far
[06:56] <GoodHabit> I wanna guest entrance...
[06:58] <Arkard> Trax AT LAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:58] <zgmf-x20a> szachista: AWESOME, IT WORKED, THANKS MAN
[06:58] <zgmf-x20a> szachista: and i will check those out , see how they run
[06:58] <TraX> Arkard: I just reread the driver install log and the legacy drivers should work just fine for you
[06:59] <Arkard> Yeah, it works perfectly
[07:00] <Arkard> now im using Compiz Fusion TraX
[07:00] <Okapi> I have this error when I start my pc: Kernet panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0). Any one can help?
[07:00] <Arkard> TraX, thanks a lot man
[07:01] <Arkard> you really have patience
[07:01] <Arkard> T_T i really appreciate that man
[07:01] <szachista> Okapi: have you recompiled your kernel before?
[07:01] <NetersLandreau> does anybody have any experience running vmware? i get prompted for windows activation, click ok.. it then immediately logs me off
[07:01] <szachista> Okapi: or have you changed anything in your /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[07:01] <andrew_> ne one here knows how to get limewire to work?
[07:01] <Okapi> szachista: No, I just restart my PC and voila!
[07:02] <TraX> Arkard: Hehe, you don't know what patience is until you've seen what I had to go through to get 3d to work on my main system
[07:02] <szachista> Okapi: ohh... that's bad, very bad...
[07:02] <Sylenze> i think i'll learn c++
[07:02] <Okapi> szachista: Yes, I imagine...And now trying to bring it back..
[07:03] <jasj> now i can open my windows files, tanks kubuntu, tanks
[07:03] <andrew_> lime wire opens,,,, but I'm not gettinn' connected... anyone here understands what could be the problem and give a possible solution?
[07:04] <Arkard> Really thanks man
[07:05] <TraX> Sylenze: http://www.cprogramming.com/
[07:06] <Sylenze> TraX: thanks!
[07:06] <Sylenze> TraX: but i'll first search for my beloved c# on linux... i found "DotGNU"
[07:06] <TraX> Sylenze: If you want a good book get the dietel & dietel c# book
[07:07] <Sylenze> who
[07:07] <Sylenze> who's dietel?
[07:07] <andrew_> dietel it the writer of the book....
[07:08] <TraX> Sylenze: The writer of the book
[07:08] <andrew_> I have the dietel & dietel c++
[07:09] <combo> how can i unpack a *.rar file through ARK / which archive is secured with password that i know ?
[07:09] <andrew_> the book you want is called c# hoow to program
[07:09] <Sylenze> if they aren't brothers or something, it's really a funny coincidence with the name xD
[07:09] <TraX> Sylenze: Father/son I believe
[07:09] <Sylenze> TraX: i'm poor
[07:10] <andrew_> something like that trax
[07:10] <waylandbill> TraX: I was going to say that although I guess it could even been a father-in-law/daughter-in-law just as easily. :-)\
[07:10] <Sylenze> i'm really poor!
[07:10] <TraX> Sylenze: You could probably find it on amazon used really cheap
[07:10] <waylandbill> Sylenze: there are plenty of resources on the web.
[07:11] <Sylenze> TraX: i can't buy something on internets
[07:11] <Sylenze> TraX: i'm scared of buying from internet
[07:11] <andrew_> question....
[07:11] <andrew_> anyone in here uses limewire?
[07:11] <Bam2550> i do
[07:11] <TraX> Sylenze: Sign up for microsoft's mailing lists, I got a free copy of visual studio 2005 standard just for filling out a survey
[07:11] <Sylenze> andrew_: limewire isn't good D:
[07:11] <Bam2550> limewire is "sharing"
[07:11] <Sylenze> TraX: i don't live in the US and the A
[07:11] <andrew_> from you installed it, you got it to work right away?
[07:12] <waylandbill> Sylenze: seeing as most banks are linked to the internet, you probably have as much to worry about shopping at the supermarket as an internet site.
[07:12] <Bam2550> andrew_ are you using linux?
[07:12] <Sylenze> waylandbill: but it's not good! internets should be free!
[07:12] <andrew_> yup... kubuntu
[07:12] <Bam2550> andrew_: did you download the linux version?
[07:13] <andrew_> yup...
[07:13] <Bam2550> Then after you install. You can just open it
[07:13] <andrew_> it opens and everyting, but It's not connecting...
[07:13] <Bam2550> and start downloading
[07:13] <Bam2550> Oh...
[07:13] <Bam2550> Hmm try to go into one of the drop down menus near the top
[07:13] <Bam2550> and see if there is something that says
[07:13] <Bam2550> connect
[07:13] <Bam2550> or disconnect
[07:13] <andrew_> did that...
[07:13] <Bam2550> rgwn im out of ideas
[07:13] <Bam2550> then im out of ideas*
[07:13] <Bam2550> bye
[07:14] <andrew_> :(
[07:14] <andrew_> this sucks......
[07:14] <andrew_> no limewire for me... :(
[07:14] <ch40s> can anyone here give me some advice to get nvidia working on my box?
[07:15] <waylandbill> andrew_: did you try frostwire?
[07:15] <waylandbill> !nvidia
[07:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:15] <effaced> i am having a problem with my dhcp obtaining an ip, can anyone help me trouble shoot, ive tried tons of stuff from thr web with no luck
[07:15] <ch40s> thanks ubotu
[07:15] <Sylenze> the "pnet" isn't in my start menu! oh noez!
[07:15] <andrew_> nope.... what's frostwire all about?
[07:16] <waylandbill> !frostwire
[07:16] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[07:16] <Savak> Anyone here managed to get frostwire working on BT in the UK? :P
[07:16] <andrew_> so I should uninstall limewire then?
[07:17] <waylandbill> andrew_: I've had good success with frostwire. It's worth a try. Maybe it will work for you.
[07:17] <andrew_> thanks.... I'm gonna try it now...
[07:17] <andrew_> brb
[07:18] <cole> hey
[07:21] <namol> why are you trying to use limewire?
[07:22] <andrew_> because I didn't hear for frostwire before.....
[07:23] <waylandbill> most likely a little illegal music downloading... that's like 90% of what it's used for. :-)
[07:23] <Sylenze> it's not illegal! you can download it FREE! it's GNU Music!
[07:24] <waylandbill> Sylenze: okay. Specifically copyrighted music. :-D
[07:24] <namol> you going to download that awesome gnu rap?
[07:24] <Sylenze> waylandbill: that's not copyrighted, it's teh GNU license
[07:24] <Sylenze> *the
[07:24] <Mark_Newb> help installing 8800GTS with dual screens
[07:25] <Sylenze> Mark_Newb: D:
[07:25] <Mark_Newb> whats that mean sylenze
[07:25] <waylandbill> Sylenze: 90% of the downloads that you would find by using the software (which is free) is not free.
[07:26] <Mark_Newb> help installing 8800GTS with dual screens
[07:26] <NickPresta> Mark_Newb, have you visited the Ubuntuforums topic that deals with dual screens?
[07:26] <Mark_Newb> yeah
[07:26] <waylandbill> !dualhead
[07:26] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[07:26] <Mark_Newb> i can't even get the nvidia card tow ork
[07:27] <namol> sounds like a driver issue
[07:27] <Mark_Newb> yes thats why i am asking for help
[07:27] <NickPresta> Mark_Newb, I have a 7900 GS and I use Twinview. It works quite well.
[07:27] <Mark_Newb> how do I get it all working then nick
[07:27] <NickPresta> !nvidia | Mark_Newb
[07:27] <ubotu> Mark_Newb: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:27] <NickPresta> follow that, if you haven't
[07:27] <Mark_Newb> did that nick
[07:27] <Mark_Newb> it messed up my install
[07:27] <NickPresta> Mark_Newb, how so?
[07:28] <waylandbill> Mark_Newb: which method did you use to install the nvidia driver?
[07:28] <Mark_Newb> x could not start after following the install instructions
[07:28] <Mark_Newb> did hte restricted devices
[07:28] <NickPresta> Mark_Newb, did you change your xorg.conf to reflect your driver change?
[07:28] <basfrank> hallo allerseits
[07:28] <Sylenze> lets have a gnu movie!
[07:28] <Sylenze> hi
[07:28] <Mark_Newb> no clue whatcha mean
[07:28] <waylandbill> did /var/log/Xorg.0.log tell the error?
[07:29] <Mark_Newb> hold please i will chekc the logs
[07:29] <Sylenze> basfrank: this is international irc :P
[07:29] <basfrank> I have a question regarding the latest amule: Why does it always crash?
[07:29] <darlok> Hmm... strange issue.  When I run OpenOffice.org Writer, all my toolbar icons are gone and replaced with text.  I've looked all over the place in the settings to fix this, but selecting "Icons Only" doesn't help.  What happened and how do I fix it?
[07:29] <waylandbill> NickPresta: I think the restricted manager would do that for you
[07:29] <Sylenze> darlok: settings?
[07:30] <darlok> Sylenze: I deleted ~/.openoffice2   Same problem
[07:30] <waylandbill> basfrank: you may have better luck asking the mantainers of amule that.
[07:30] <elite101> hahaha omg my friend is sooooo dum
[07:31] <elite101> My friend got VCDrom for windows mounted DSL linux rebooted his computer changed in the BIOS bootfrom CDROM and thought it would boot the mounted ISO in windows hahhahahahahhaha
[07:31] <Mark_Newb> its gone from the logs
[07:31] <Mark_Newb> i can get it to do it again if you like
[07:31] <waylandbill> Mark_Newb: you'll want to look at the log when X is failing, BTW. :)
[07:31] <Mark_Newb> that i did
[07:31] <Mark_Newb> hang on i will get ya the information
[07:31] <Sylenze> darlok: maybe you look at FAQ then...
[07:31] <Mark_Newb> back in a few
[07:32] <Sylenze> question: where can i get the Jahshaka Repo?
[07:34] <basfrank> waylandbill: i mean is it a common problem or am i the only kubuntuuser experiencing this?
[07:35] <Angelus> does someone know where kde is installed on kubuntu? (in which directory)
[07:35] <Sylenze> Angelus: type kde in konqueror
[07:35] <Angelus> :O
[07:35] <Angelus> just kde?
[07:36] <Sylenze> Angelus: or locate:kde
[07:36] <Sylenze> this will search kde ;D
[07:38] <Sylenze> what are .sh files?
[07:38] <namol> shell scrupt files normally
[07:38] <kkathman> Can someone please suggest the best "how-to" for getting compiz-fusion running under kubuntu?  I got beryl running fine under ubuntu and SUSE, but I cant get either running under kubuntu :(
[07:39] <namol> script*
[07:39] <namol> not scrupt
[07:39] <szachista> Sylenze: theris "file" command, it will tell you more about any file
[07:39] <namol> #!/bin.bash
[07:39] <Sylenze> namol: how can i run them?
[07:39] <namol> ./nameoffile.sh normally
[07:39] <Sylenze> i know
[07:39] <namol> unless you down have permissions to run them
[07:39] <Sylenze> but it says permission dned
[07:39] <namol> don't
[07:39] <Sylenze> *denied
[07:39] <namol> then you can't
[07:40] <Arwen> Sylenze, chmod +x
[07:40] <Mark_Newb> hello
[07:40] <Mark_Newb> ok I am back
[07:40] <namol> unless your chmod 755 filename
[07:40] <namol> or chmod +x
[07:40] <danielronin> Hello all, I have a new Asus F3T, can anyone here help me determine my wireless chipset?
[07:40] <Sylenze> jahshaka-dapper-x86.sh is the name, but i have FEISTY
[07:40] <namol> the filename
[07:40] <Mark_Newb> you guys got  a pastebin or something where i  can put the log out puts
[07:40] <namol> !paste
[07:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:40] <Mark_Newb> cool
[07:41] <Sylenze> the acces if even denied as root!!!
[07:42] <Mark_Newb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36064/
[07:42] <namol> sudo ./jahshaka-dapper-x86.sh doesn't work?
[07:42] <Mark_Newb> thats the log file after I install the restricted drivesr
[07:43] <Mark_Newb> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device PCI:1:0:0.
[07:43] <Mark_Newb> thats the exact error
[07:43] <danielronin> is there a way to determine my wireless chipset with any shell commands?
[07:43] <Sylenze> namol: ./jahshaka-dapper-x86.sh brings me "bash: ./jahshaka-dapper-x86.sh: Permission denied"
[07:44] <Ace2016> Mark_Newb: What card do you have?
[07:44] <namol> what's it trying to change?
[07:44] <namol> (EE) NVIDIA(0):     Please see the COMMON PROBLEMS section in the README for
[07:44] <Sylenze> it's on my desktop, i make:       cd /home/sylenze/Desktop and then ./jahshaka-dapper-x86.sh
[07:44] <namol> EE) NVIDIA(0):     additional information.
[07:44] <Arwen> Sylenze, you have to set scripts to be executable.
[07:44] <Arwen> Listen when people talk.
[07:44] <Sylenze> Sylenze: nobody told me that!
[07:44] <Ace2016> chmod +x jahshaka-dapper-x86.sh
[07:44] <Sylenze> Arwen: nobody told me that!
[07:44] <Mark_Newb> 8800GTS
[07:44] <Arwen> [13:40]  <Arwen> Sylenze, chmod +x <--
[07:44] <Arwen> chmod +x filename
[07:45] <Ace2016> Mark_Newb: was that the driver from the repo? that will not work
[07:45] <Sylenze> Arwen: i don't know who's chmod, please explain T_T
[07:45] <Arwen> .................
[07:45] <namol> !chmod
[07:45] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[07:45] <namol> awesome
[07:45] <Sylenze> aw i don't want to browse internets =(
[07:45] <namol> then you must not want to learn
[07:46] <Arwen> if you don't want to put effort into something, don't expect anything out of it
[07:46] <Ace2016> Mark_Newb: you will need envy: http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[07:46] <Mark_Newb> ace i followed the instructiosn from when you type !nvidia
[07:46] <Arwen> oh god no, not envy
[07:46] <Arwen> !envy
[07:46] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[07:46] <Sylenze> chmod: missing operand after `+x'
[07:46] <Arwen> Sylenze, chmod +x *FILENAME*
[07:46] <Mark_Newb> ok so what do i do
[07:46] <Sylenze> Arwen do i have to do cd first?
[07:47] <Arwen> ...............
[07:47] <Sylenze> Arwen: try to be nice, you know you want friends!
[07:47] <Mark_Newb> can someone just please help me install my 8800GTS without using any special programs or scripts
[07:47] <Arwen> you can perform operations on files in the same directory as you by calling their filenames
[07:47] <Arwen> you can perform operations on files not in the same directory by prefixing the name with a path
[07:47] <Sylenze> Arwen: thanks =D
[07:47] <Arwen> like /home/loser/Desktop/pr0n.jpg
[07:48] <Ace2016> Mark_Newb: well that app is pretty much the fasiest way to do it, i tried myself to set it up and failed completely
[07:48] <Sylenze> -.-
[07:48] <Sylenze> at least you gave it a try
[07:49] <wckdkl0wn> what other burning software is there for dvd drives other then k3b? i did a simulate with k3b and worked fine.. tryed to do an actual burn and it errored out
[07:49] <Sylenze> ./jahshaka-dapper-x86.sh: 3: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[07:49] <Arwen> pastebin the script
[07:49] <Sylenze> Arwen: gimme a pastebin
[07:49] <wckdkl0wn> !pastebin
[07:49] <Arwen> !pastebin
[07:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:49] <Sylenze> but that's netherlands
[07:50] <Arwen> so?
[07:50] <Arwen> pastebin.ca is in Canada if that helps
[07:50] <Sylenze> cool
[07:50] <hydrogen> it doesn't matter where it is
[07:50] <hydrogen> they won't steal your data's!
[07:50] <Sylenze> they will!
[07:51] <Sylenze> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36066/
[07:51] <wckdkl0wn> what can i use for burning dvd projects?
[07:51] <Ace2016> k3b
[07:51] <cloakable> k3b
[07:51] <wckdkl0wn> i tryed k3b
[07:51] <emilsedgh> wckdkl0wn: mandvd, k3b .. ?
[07:51] <Sylenze> ubuntu is my father
[07:51] <wckdkl0wn> worked fine in simulation.. on actual burn it always errors out
[07:52] <BluesKaj> wckdkl0wn, there are few others like k9copy , acidrip and tovid-gui, tovid-cli
[07:52] <Ace2016> what are you tring to do?
[07:52] <wckdkl0wn> who u talking to Ace2016
[07:52] <wckdkl0wn> me?
[07:52] <Ace2016> you
[07:52] <BluesKaj> wckand of course the ever popular devede ...
[07:53] <wckdkl0wn> i converted a xvid movie to dvd format.. now i am tryin to burn it
[07:53] <BluesKaj> wckdkl0wn, devede , as well
[07:53] <Ace2016> oh well guessing its not k3b's fault then
[07:54] <wckdkl0wn> well k3b in simulation mode ruined one of my blanks lol.. at the end of simulation it copied a small bit of data to the dvd
[07:55] <Sylenze> help!!
[07:55] <Sylenze> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36066/
[07:56] <nukes_> Verlassen
[07:57] <Sylenze> help! i installed pnet from reposority but i can't find it!
[07:57] <llutz> Sylenze: i don't know, but i guess its a commandline prog, so open konsole and type pnet
[07:58] <wckdkl0wn> i wonder if i can burn a cd in innotek virtual box
[07:58] <BluesKaj> wckdkl0wn, are you reading any of the responses to you complaints ?
[07:58] <kai__> #kubuntu-de
[07:58] <wckdkl0wn> yea i tryed those programs
[07:59] <wckdkl0wn> one couldnt import my vid files
[07:59] <Ace2016> brb, chewing lightbulbs was a bad idea
[08:00] <secleinteer> hi, does anyone know how to make new tabs in konqueror open to ~ instead of about:blank?
[08:00] <BluesKaj> wckdkl0wn, which one ?
[08:00] <wckdkl0wn> devede
[08:01] <Ace2016> secleinteer: settings > configure konqueror > web behaviour and in tabbed browsing section tick "Open links in new tab instead of new window"
[08:01] <BluesKaj> k9copy works well
[08:02] <spongebob_> hello mr or mss
[08:02] <secleinteer> Ace2016: the problem's not that links are opening in new windows, it's that when i open a new tab in konqueror, it's defaulting to about:blank instead of ~
[08:02] <sylenze> klipper ftw!!
[08:02] <Turazoor> anyone know the command for searching for wlan APs?
[08:03] <spongebob_> i forget to xorg.conf file creator command
[08:03] <spongebob_> for rebuild
[08:04] <llutz> Turazoor: iwlist s
[08:04] <Turazoor> cheers llutz.... again lol
[08:04] <sylenze> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36066/ <- need help please!
[08:04] <Turazoor> ... oh ok...
[08:05] <Turazoor> apparently wlan1 doesn't support searching for Wlan APs??????... so what else is it for hey lol
[08:05] <Psycoshot> Hey, has anyone here had a problem with Amarok, the list, instead of it being 1 lighter colour, one darker, it goes 1 REALLY light the other normally dark.
[08:05] <Psycoshot> Right now my lsit goes white dark blue, white, dark blue
[08:06] <Turazoor> Psycoshot: are you sure it isn't the theme?
[08:06] <danielronin> can anyone here assist me in patching my wireless driver?
[08:06] <Psycoshot> Well, It was fine, but when I change desktops and look back, its changed
[08:06] <danielronin> is it just a matter of make with -enable-kernel-module?
[08:06] <Ace2016> #kde should know
[08:06] <Ace2016> secleinteer: #kde should know
[08:07] <secleinteer> Ace2016: i asked there, and no one replied :(
[08:07] <spongebob_> huhu
[08:09] <sylenze> is it legal to rip my own Music CD?
[08:10] <llutz> sylenze: sure
[08:10] <sylenze> but it says copy protected!
[08:10] <sylenze> (the cover says so)
[08:10] <secleinteer> sylenze: doesn't matter, you'll be fine ;)
[08:11] <sylenze> secleinteer: oO
[08:11] <sylenze> it's Gorillaz - Demon Days
[08:11] <Arwen> so what?
[08:11] <Arwen> nobody can tell you what you do with your own stuff
[08:11] <sylenze> they can
[08:11] <sylenze> like Windows
[08:11] <Arwen> ...
[08:11] <sylenze> "you succesfully installed updates now click the button to restart, else your parents will die"
[08:12] <Arwen> ................
[08:12] <sylenze> that really annoyed me =/
[08:12] <Arwen> don't troll, it's unbecoming
[08:12] <secleinteer> .........
[08:12] <sylenze> troll?
[08:12] <secleinteer> i.e. saying stupid/annoying things
[08:12] <sylenze> .......
[08:13] <level1> !aptfix
[08:13] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:14] <sylenze> help i got a "malformed" line!!
[08:14] <nicolai_> Arwen: In many countries the law prevents you from circumventing copy protection - even if it is for personal use.
[08:14] <secleinteer> nicolai_: yeah but it's not like the police is going to come knocking on my door if i rip a dvd
[08:14] <sylenze> yes i will get 5 years of jail
[08:15] <secleinteer> sylenze: what country you in?
[08:15] <sylenze> secleinteer: i live in germany (but i'm not from germany!!)
[08:15] <llutz> It's your own fault if you buy "copyprotected" cds
[08:15] <secleinteer> sylenze: well do it anyway
[08:15] <sylenze> llutz: it was a present
[08:15] <secleinteer> you're not going to go to jail
[08:16] <nicolai_> secleinteer: But it's still illegal. I wouldn't care either, but I just thought it needed to be said
[08:16] <sylenze> secleinteer: but Kaffeine only knows ogg vorbis =(
[08:16] <Savak> You get internet in German prisons don't you? ;)
[08:16] <sylenze> nicolai_: but it's my own music CD
[08:16] <llutz> nope
[08:16] <sylenze> Savak: what?
[08:16] <Arwen> But you don't own the music, you own the CD
[08:16] <sylenze> Arwen: so i can hear it on my computer
[08:16] <Savak> and TV
[08:16] <llutz> Savak: tv yes
[08:16] <sylenze> i can't hear my tv
[08:17] <Savak> never mind sylenze :p
[08:17] <nicolai_> sylenze: It is only your own music if you made it yourself. Many record companies would say the CD was only a 'one person' license.
[08:17] <spongebob_> thnx guys
[08:17] <sylenze> yay!
[08:17] <sylenze> i'm a pirate!!!
[08:17] <spongebob_> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
[08:17] <spongebob_> sudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum'
[08:17] <spongebob_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:18] <Savak> your pretty much renting optical media
[08:18] <secleinteer> !lame
[08:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lame - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:18] <sylenze> lol
[08:18] <sylenze> ubuntu is lameless!
[08:18] <secleinteer> !mp3
[08:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:18] <secleinteer> !restrictedformats
[08:18] <Arwen> by the way: mp3s suck in every sense of the word
[08:19] <sylenze> Arwen: help me please!
[08:19] <secleinteer> yeah, rip to flac if you can
[08:19] <Savak> What do u use then Arwen
[08:19] <sylenze> Arwen: sources.list is root only, but i'm the only user!
[08:19] <Arwen> !sudo | sylenze
[08:19] <ubotu> sylenze: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:20] <sylenze> nono
[08:20] <sylenze> i need to change something in it, i can't have sudo to make it
[08:20] <secleinteer> !flac
[08:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:20] <Arwen> Savak, Vorbis for stereo audio, HE-AAC for really low bitrate audio or multi-channel audio, and FLAC for archival.
[08:21] <sylenze> Arwen: i need to delete the line 45 in sources.list
[08:21] <Savak> hmmm research time for me
[08:21] <Arwen> sylenze, sudo nano file
[08:21] <Arwen> Whether or not Vorbis or LC-AAC is better for medium bitrate stereo is arguable, but Vorbis makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside
[08:22] <secleinteer> sylenze: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping#head-dccaf9e84d2ac4d5a52567d5a37d011ebb46285f
[08:22] <secleinteer> very easy to rip CDs
[08:22] <secleinteer> Arwen: what's worng  with flac?
[08:23] <Arwen> It reduces my disk space?
[08:23] <Arwen> huhuh
[08:23] <sylenze> Arwen: how can i save in nano?
[08:23] <Arwen> sylenze, ctrl+o
[08:23] <secleinteer> is disk space really a problem anymore?
[08:23] <sylenze> thanks
[08:23] <Arwen> secleinteer, YES
[08:23] <Arwen> I have 200MB free space left
[08:23] <secleinteer> lol ok
[08:23] <sylenze> flac?
[08:23] <sylenze> sounds like warfare
[08:23] <secleinteer> hahaha
[08:23] <secleinteer> i've got about 200 GB left here ;)
[08:23] <Arwen> FLAC is a lossless codec, designed for making 1:1 copies of audio
[08:24] <Arwen> secleinteer, hint: disk space is meant to be used
[08:24] <sylenze> Arwen: that's not good
[08:24] <secleinteer> FLAC == free lossless audio codec
[08:24] <secleinteer> Arwen: yeah, i've already used 550GB
[08:24] <secleinteer> i'm working on it ;)
[08:24] <sylenze> i don't have bat ears, i can't tell the difference between full quality mp3 and "original"
[08:24] <secleinteer> i tend to burn stuff to dvd though, so that saves me space
[08:24] <sylenze> btw, my boxes suck
[08:24] <Arwen> sylenze, it's not meant for listening
[08:24] <secleinteer> sylenze: it's an OCD thing :D
[08:24] <sylenze> secleinteer: please describe =(
[08:25] <Arwen> but so that if you need your music in say Y format, you can convert from an original source rather than a already lossy one
[08:25] <secleinteer> sylenze: describe what?
[08:25] <sylenze> oh that sounds logical
[08:25] <sylenze> scleinteer: OCD
[08:25] <Arwen> Obsessive Compulsive Disorder?
[08:25] <secleinteer> yeah lol
[08:25] <sylenze> yay, i repaired my reposority :D
[08:25] <secleinteer> only about my comp though
[08:25] <secleinteer> everything around me is a mess :D
[08:26] <sylenze> Kaffeine is lame!
[08:26] <ScorpKing> use vlc
[08:26] <secleinteer> sylenze: lol why's that?
[08:26] <Arwen> oh god no, not VLC
[08:26] <secleinteer> lol
[08:26] <ScorpKing> lol
[08:26] <sylenze> scleinteer: it takes a week to decode the album!
[08:26] <secleinteer> only reason vlc is bad is because it uses gtk
[08:26] <Arwen> it uses wxwidgets
[08:26] <secleinteer> sylenze: use the kio-slaves in konqueror
[08:27] <Arwen> which on Linux means it effectively uses GTK+, but there's a difference
[08:27] <secleinteer> type 'audiocd:/' into the address bar
[08:27] <sylenze> i don't like slave workers
[08:27] <secleinteer> yeah well too bad :P
[08:27] <Arwen> anyway, VLC crashes every other minute and can't even show subtitles
[08:27] <ScorpKing> not mine
[08:27] <secleinteer> Arwen: actually, i had trouble with subtitles in both kaffeine and vlc :P
[08:27] <secleinteer> only mplayer worked for that
[08:27] <Arwen> MPlayer
[08:27] <sylenze> Arwen: i installed "pnet" from the reposority, but i can't find it! please help me master!
[08:27] <Arwen> it has libass
[08:27] <Arwen> it's the only one worth using
[08:27] <Arwen> sylenze, pnet?
[08:28] <secleinteer> and the OSD of the play time in kaffeine is really annoying
[08:28] <sylenze> Arwen: it's c# on linux without GTK!
[08:28] <Okapi> how can you turn of the splash on booting?
[08:28] <sylenze> Okapi: system settings, appreance
[08:28] <sylenze> i mean splash screen
[08:28] <Arwen> try "dpkg -L pnet"
[08:28] <ScorpKing> bootsplash?
[08:28] <Arwen> it'll show you what files it installed
[08:28] <Okapi> sylenze: thank you
[08:29] <Okapi> yes, bootsplash
[08:29] <ScorpKing> somewhere in grub. :-)
[08:29] <sylenze> Okapi: you have KEbab or Ubuntu?
[08:29] <secleinteer> Okapi: you want to see the messages at boot?
[08:30] <secleinteer> if you just want to see it once, press ctrl+alt+f1
[08:30] <Okapi> yes, I want be able to see the message on boot
[08:30] <secleinteer> ctrl+alt+f1 will work
[08:30] <secleinteer> permanent solution is in grub config file
[08:30] <Okapi> I have Kubuntu Feist
[08:30] <secleinteer> go to /etc/grub/grub.conf for that
[08:31] <secleinteer> i mean /boot/grub/grub.conf
[08:31] <Okapi> ok, thank you guys. Let try...
[08:31] <secleinteer> hmmm, it's not in there....
[08:32] <ScorpKing> i think there is a nosplash option in /boot/grub/menu.list
[08:32] <secleinteer> there we go
[08:32] <secleinteer> menu.list
[08:32] <maria> hola
[08:32] <secleinteer> "# defoptions=quiet splash" <-- that might be it
[08:32] <maria> hello
[08:33] <ScorpKing> ya
[08:33] <Okapi> hello maria
[08:33] <maria> hello okapi, how are u?
[08:33] <Okapi> maria: fine and yourself?
[08:34] <cherva> from where i can change the bit depth of the desktop ?
[08:35] <maria> okapi: fine too
[08:35] <Okapi> maria: what is new in your place?
[08:36] <llutz> cherva: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:36] <sylenze> Arwen: WHY DID YOU DO THAT %$&%$&$
[08:36] <secleinteer> sylenze: what happened? :P
[08:36] <sylenze> -.-'
[08:36] <Arwen> whay?
[08:36] <sylenze> why did you do that to me
[08:37] <Arwen> do what?
[08:37] <sylenze> that ctrl+alt+f1 thingy
[08:37] <sylenze> you kknow i'm new to kubuntu
[08:37] <Arwen> I didn'
[08:37] <andrew_> what does that do?
[08:37] <Arwen> [14:30]  <secleinteer> if you just want to see it once, press ctrl+alt+f1 <-- you mean that?
[08:37] <sylenze> that's more worse then alt+f4 on windows!
[08:37] <Arwen> ctrl+alt+f1 brings up the first virtual terminal
[08:38] <Arwen> usually a command shell
[08:38] <ScorpKing> sylenze: press ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to graphics
[08:38] <sylenze> man -.-
[08:38] <Arwen> or 8 or 9 if your kdm is broken like mine
[08:38] <sylenze> that's like sudo for me
[08:38] <secleinteer> HAHAHAHA
[08:38] <andrew_> yo....
[08:38] <secleinteer> sylenze: did you hit ctrl+alt+f1 and not know how to get back?
[08:38] <andrew_> linux is the best...
[08:38] <sylenze> scleinteer: i tested ctrl+f2, f3 and f4 -.-
[08:39] <sylenze> arwen: you ow me something
[08:39] <secleinteer> sylenze: should've gone up to 7 :P
[08:39] <Arwen> I didn't tell you to do that...
[08:39] <sylenze> arwen: now you have to tell me how to get pnet running?!
[08:39] <sylenze> Arwen: but you knew i would do that...
[08:39] <Arwen> sylenze, I don't know, never used that
[08:39] <secleinteer> sylenze: no one told you to do that, i told okapi to do that :P
[08:39] <Arwen> "dpkg -L pnet" shows what files it has, maybe that'll be a clue
[08:39] <sylenze> Arwen: but it's an error!
[08:40] <sylenze> secleinteer: oh man!
[08:40] <sylenze> secleinteer: then YOU have to tell me how to get it running
[08:40] <ScorpKing> sylenze: he just tried to help.
[08:40] <secleinteer> i don't even know what pnet is.....
[08:40] <sylenze> ScorpKing: now he try again =D
[08:40] <ScorpKing> lol
[08:41] <sylenze> secleinteer: it's not about pnet, it's about things disapear from my resopotiry
[08:41] <maria_> alguien que hable espaol?
[08:41] <secleinteer> sylenze: well don't mess with the repo file
[08:41] <ScorpKing> !es | maria_
[08:41] <ubotu> maria_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:41] <sylenze> secleinteer: no, i downloaded it!
[08:41] <maria_> muchas gracias ubotu
[08:42] <sylenze> search adept manager for pnet
[08:42] <secleinteer> sylenze: you can't download the repo file, it comes with the distro.....
[08:42] <sylenze> secleinteer: never said so Oo
[08:42] <andrew_> what is pnet all about?
[08:42] <secleinteer> .......
[08:42] <sylenze> it's c# on Linux without GTK!!!
[08:42] <secleinteer> you said something about repo file, then said you downloaded it
[08:43] <Arwen> !shout
[08:43] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:43] <sylenze> because GTK is for crazy german kids who like to be on internet, try searching youtube for "crazy computer kid" it's very funny xD
[08:43] <andrew_> oh cool...
[08:43] <sylenze> ubotu: i can't shout on internet
[08:43] <bgt421> Hi, I'm new. I'm trying to install firefox, and it didn't come with a ./configure . What do I do about it?
[08:43] <llutz> sylenze: could you plz try to behave like an adult human. thanks
[08:43] <secleinteer> bgt421: i think it's precompiled
[08:43] <sylenze> bgt412: open console and make sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:43] <andrew_> I'm kinda new to the Linux thing, so I hope ya'll don't mind all the questions....
[08:44] <secleinteer> you just run the firefox script in there
[08:44] <sylenze> llutz: sorry but i'm not an adult human
[08:44] <llutz> sylenze: i thought so
[08:44] <andrew_> I'm actuall a pc repairs technician,,  I'm used to the whole Windows thing, but I decided I want a change...
[08:44] <andrew_> lol..
[08:45] <DexterF> hi
[08:45] <sylenze> there is svn for windows, it's like having a konsole inside cmd shell
[08:45] <DexterF> need a lil help with avidemux. audio isn't in sync with the vid, can I autoscan the offset somehow?
[08:45] <Arwen> #avidemux maybe?
[08:45] <Savak> that would defeat the point of a konsole lol
[08:46] <andrew_> oh cool....
[08:46] <elite101> hahhahaahahahaha lol
[08:46] <elite101> http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vg05vToa7Zk
[08:46] <elite101> dancing monkeys funny as hell
[08:46] <sylenze> elite101: i like dancing animals!
[08:46] <sylenze> who doesn't ;D
[08:47] <Savak> that sucked lol
[08:47] <Sylvarant> hello
[08:47] <ax1s> having issues with wg111 v2 netgear ..
[08:47] <sylenze> hi
[08:47] <Tomi-idle> any program out there to communicate with hp lcd display on linux? (windows has hp my display)
[08:47] <ax1s> alternate driver won't rmmod as not found
[08:47] <ax1s> yet ndiswrapper sees the alternate driver loaded
[08:47] <ax1s> how do i remove this alternate driver
[08:48] <bgt421> ok, I used apt-get install for firefox, and I get about 5 X server errors and then a bunch of gecko errors, and then it opens. Also, there aren't pretty little buttons in my Kmenu or panel. do I need to mangae those separately, or did something go bad in the install?
[08:48] <ax1s> i've got rt*everything blacklisted, rebooted
[08:48] <bgt421> That's from typing "firefox" in the terminal
[08:48] <Psycoshot> Hey, does anyone here use Kiba-Dock??
[08:48] <Sylvarant> nope
[08:48] <Psycoshot> I'm trying to get stacks to work, is it like a KDE issue?
[08:48] <sylenze> how can i run rpm files?
[08:49] <hydrogen>  jhardy
[08:49] <hydrogen> OO
[08:49] <hydrogen> OoO
[08:49] <llutz> !rpm | sylenze
[08:49] <ubotu> sylenze: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[08:49] <ax1s> sylenze: install alien and convert them
[08:49] <sylenze> ok thanks...
[08:49] <ax1s> sudo apt-get install alien ; alien file.rpm
[08:49] <sylenze> what does rpm mean?
[08:49] <ax1s> redhat package manager?
[08:49] <Arwen> Redhat Package Manager
[08:50] <Sylvarant> any one know how to set up qt in kdevelop ??
[08:50] <ax1s> anyone here have netgear wg111v2 experience
[08:50] <elite101> YEAH
[08:50] <elite101> a router?
[08:50] <ax1s> nah usb wifi card
[08:50] <Savak> ouch
[08:50] <ax1s> :/
[08:50] <ax1s> was workin finec b4 tho which is upsetting
[08:51] <Savak> what'd u change? :P
[08:51] <ax1s> updated heh
[08:51] <ax1s> now ubuntu has their own driver for it and won't let me use ndiswrapper
[08:51] <ax1s> and the ubuntu driver breaks
[08:51] <Psycoshot> Hey, does anyone here use Kiba-Dock??I'm trying to get "stacks" to work for it. I was wondering if it was a KDE problem?
[08:51] <Arwen> oh god... docks..
[08:51] <ax1s> ndiswrapper tells me "alternate drive present: rtl8187 "
[08:51] <ax1s> so i blacklist, reboot
[08:52] <sylenze> haha dancing monkeys xD
[08:52] <ax1s> same msg
[08:52] <ax1s> rmmod rtl8187 : module not found in /proc/modules
[08:52] <ax1s> so i find the all rtl8187 stuff, rename it ... same thing
[08:52] <sylenze> ok another question: how can i run .run files?
[08:52] <ax1s> sylenze: chmod a+x file.run
[08:52] <ax1s> ./file.run
[08:53] <sylenze> thanks
[08:53] <inaety> hello, i have a bunch of mp3's in one folder like 2500...is there anyway to have a program read their id3 tags and place them in folders according to artist > album > song?
[08:53] <sylenze> wow, i have drivers now =D
[08:53] <ax1s> nice
[08:53] <ax1s> hahaha
[08:53] <ax1s> i'm about to smash this netgear usb thing
[08:54] <Savak> sorry ax1s, beyond me :(
[08:54] <ax1s> ahh no worries
[08:54] <ax1s> my relationship with computers is a love/hate thing
[08:54] <Savak> likewise, could always rollback the hard way :P
[08:54] <ax1s> hehehe
[08:54] <sylenze> help! is this xorg?
[08:54] <ax1s> do you know if re installing
[08:54] <ax1s> will screen up EVMS
[08:55] <ax1s> Savak: which drivers you installing
[08:55] <ax1s> er
[08:55] <ax1s> sylenze:
[08:55] <sylenze> "install driver 8.40.0 on X.Org 7.1 and later" ati graphics driver
[08:55] <ax1s> sylenze: are you install an old version of ati driver specifically
[08:55] <ax1s> sylenze: or just trying to install ati driver period
[08:55] <sylenze> ax1s: my graphics card is older then i am
[08:55] <Savak> I would think so ax1s
[08:55] <ax1s> hehehe
[08:56] <sylenze> or shall i generate Distribution specifik spackage
[08:56] <Savak> sylenze must have a 7800 hehe
[08:56] <ax1s> good question :[
[08:56] <sylenze> Savak: no, x300
[08:56] <ax1s> i have x200
[08:56] <sylenze> ak1s: so everythings fine?
[08:56] <ax1s> heheh
[08:56] <sylenze> i clicked on "new drivers" at ati.amd.com (sad that it fused) and then Radeon -> x300
[08:57] <ax1s> i just installed the ubuntu way
[08:57] <ax1s> and it worked
[08:57] <sylenze> ax1s: how?
[08:57] <sylenze> resoptiry?
[08:57] <ax1s> let me see, sec
[08:57] <sylenze> reposority
[08:57] <ax1s> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way
[08:57] <sylenze> oh no a guide D:
[08:58] <ax1s> xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:58] <ax1s> then i changed ati to fglrx
[08:58] <sylenze> man that hurts
[08:58] <ax1s> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:58] <sylenze> i don't want a new driver now my brain hurts
[08:59] <ax1s> sudo nano /etc/X11/Xorg.conf - changed "ati" to fglrx
[08:59] <ax1s> alt-control-backspaced X-windows
[08:59] <ax1s> bamo
[08:59] <ax1s> fglrxinfo =
[08:59] <ax1s> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[08:59] <ax1s> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON XPRESS Series
[08:59] <ax1s> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)
[08:59] <Streetsurfer> anyone here use fglrx ati drivers and manage to get s-video output? (8.38.x drivers cos 8.40.x) screws up with mesa :/
[09:00] <ax1s> i haven't tried recently but i swear it worked before
[09:00] <ax1s> i had to do something special with aticonfig tho
[09:00] <sylenze> it's strange
[09:00] <sylenze> i don't trust xorg
[09:01] <ax1s> i don't trust ATI, period
[09:01] <sylenze> i trust ATI
[09:01] <ax1s> i don't anymore.. nvidia all the way
[09:01] <sylenze> how can i install my ati driver
[09:01] <ax1s> i just told you how
[09:01] <ax1s> hahaha
[09:01] <ax1s> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[09:01] <ax1s> oh
[09:01] <andrew_> can someone tell me the latest version of Java runtime environment for linux?
[09:01] <ax1s> via original driver .. hmm
[09:01] <sylenze> T_T
[09:01] <sylenze> ax1s: perhaps YOU know how to get pnet working?
[09:02] <ax1s> sylenze:  the modelling program?
[09:02] <sylenze> ax1s: no the c# programming program
[09:03] <ax1s> type sudo apt-get install pnet(then hit tab like 2-3 times)
[09:03] <ax1s> 2 times should work but sometimes i have to hit it thrice
[09:03] <bgt421> is there anything special about mounting a vfat usb external hdd? mount says it's mounted but I see none of the files
[09:03] <sylenze> ax1s: what?
[09:03] <sylenze> ax1s: i installed it allready
[09:03] <ax1s> so man pnet
[09:03] <ax1s> hahaha
[09:03] <ax1s> or type
[09:03] <ax1s> pnet(tabcomplete)
[09:04] <sylenze> ax1s: no wait
[09:04] <Sylvarant> does any one know how to set up qt in kdevelop
[09:04] <sylenze> ax1s: it's just not showing up in the "Development" tab
[09:04] <ax1s> have you restarted x windows
[09:04] <ax1s> sometimes newly added programs don't show
[09:04] <ax1s> are you sure it's a GUI program and not CLI
[09:04] <sylenze> ax1s: how to fix it?
[09:04] <sylenze> ax1s: it also happened me once with wine, then i uninstalled my OS
[09:05] <sylenze> *to
[09:05] <ax1s> just re log into x-windows and see if it's there
[09:05] <ax1s> like
[09:05] <ax1s> control-alt-backspace to restart X
[09:05] <sylenze> who's x-windows? i only have Kubuntu installed
[09:05] <ax1s> kubuntu and ubuntu run on x-windows
[09:05] <sylenze> what?!
[09:05] <sylenze> i thought it's debian!
[09:05] <ax1s> it is
[09:05] <ax1s> all linux's with GUI run x-windows just about
[09:05] <ax1s> kde and Gnome run off that
[09:05] <ax1s> they are like themese
[09:06] <ax1s> in a way
[09:06] <ax1s> x-windows = gui
[09:06] <juho> hello
[09:06] <llutz> ax1s: btw: x-window  without "s" :)
[09:06] <juho> how to connect quakenet?
[09:06] <ax1s> hehe
[09:06] <ax1s> x-window  :)
[09:07] <juho> guys..
[09:07] <Streetsurfer> anyone know how to get ati cards to enable s-video out? (tvout)
[09:07] <bgt421> does any one know why files might not show up from an external hdd even if it is mounted successfully?
[09:08] <ax1s> bgt421: do they show up in command line
[09:08] <juho> how to get starcraft work with wine? i installed it but when connecting to bnet it tilts.. and it lags anyway
[09:09] <BluesKaj> ax1s, the proper name is " X Window System " not windows ...windows confuses ppl and upsets them :)
[09:09] <ax1s> bah .. ;] 
[09:09] <bgt421> ax1s:nope. That's where I'm looking. mount returns that it is mounted, but the files aren't there. df shows that 14% of the drive is in use, which is about right. They just won't show up with ls.
[09:09] <ax1s> bgt421:  what file system is it
[09:09] <bgt421> vfat
[09:09] <bgt421> and mounted as such
[09:10] <ax1s> mounted to which folder
[09:10] <ax1s> mount /dev/whatever /media/folder
[09:10] <bgt421>  /media/wd
[09:10] <ax1s> with nothing special in the command line?
[09:10] <bgt421> is where it's mounted
[09:10] <ax1s> did it auto mount o
[09:10] <bgt421> it mounted at startup I believe. That's what I told it to do at install time anyway
[09:11] <bgt421> it's in fstab
[09:11] <ax1s> paste your fstab line, but for now umount it and try mounting it manually
[09:11] <bgt421> when I try to mount it again, it says it is mounted
[09:11] <bgt421> ok
[09:11] <ax1s> maybe you forgot a 1  eg  /dev/SD1
[09:11] <bgt421>  /dev/sdb1            244136352  34068352 210068000  14% /media/
[09:11] <ax1s> woah it mounted as /media
[09:11] <ax1s> not /media/wd
[09:12] <ax1s> missing /wd in /fstab?
[09:12] <bgt421> nope, it copied wrong. here it is:
[09:12] <bgt421>  /dev/sdb1            244136352  34068352 210068000  14% /media/wd
[09:12] <ax1s> and what happens when you umount /media/wd
[09:13] <ax1s> un mount it and try it manually first
[09:13] <bgt421> just tried it. remounted and there's still nothing
[09:13] <ax1s> ha
[09:13] <ax1s> what about if you
[09:13] <ax1s> oh wait
[09:13] <ax1s> i got it
[09:13] <ax1s> sec to figure params out
[09:14] <bgt421> k
[09:14] <fkm> Why does Kubuntu use SSDP if it is expired? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Service_Discovery_Protocol
[09:14] <ax1s>  chown -hR user /media/wd
[09:15] <ax1s> will change ownership of the files on the drive
[09:15] <ax1s> recursive
[09:15] <bgt421> oh... I forgot about that :)
[09:15] <ax1s> *guess
[09:15] <ax1s> if you just prepped the drive
[09:15] <ax1s> sylenze: is it there now?
[09:16] <sylenze> ax1s: i was on the toilet
[09:16] <ax1s> lol
[09:16] <sylenze> "it" WAS there
[09:16] <ax1s> eww
[09:16] <sylenze> lol
[09:16] <sylenze> ax1s: but pnat isn't there
[09:16] <ScorpKing> stop that! lol
[09:16] <sylenze> but adept didn't work
[09:16] <ax1s> sylenze: did you restart x-window system ?
[09:17] <ax1s> oh
[09:17] <sylenze> ax1s no
[09:17] <sylenze> ax1s: but i pressed on restart
[09:17] <bgt421> ax1s: I'm getting a bunch of "operation not permitted". One for I guess every file on the drive. I did use sudo
[09:17] <ax1s> bgt421: sudo chown
[09:17] <ax1s> hehe
[09:17] <sylenze> lets make an error rally - who will be the winner, winxp or linux?
[09:17] <ax1s> forgot the sudo part
[09:17] <sylenze> lol!
[09:17] <sylenze> i hate sudo
[09:17] <ax1s> you can sudo su
[09:18] <ax1s> to login as root
[09:18] <ax1s> and not have to do it everytime
[09:18] <bgt421> ax1s: I used sudo
[09:18] <sylenze> or sudo -i
[09:18] <bgt421> or should I use su
[09:18] <ax1s> no it should have worked
[09:18] <ax1s> hrm
[09:19] <ax1s> is it an external drive
[09:19] <ax1s> what was the exact error
[09:19] <RytmenPinnen> may I ask why pidgin isnt in the repositories?
[09:20] <sylenze> bill gate's new OS is kubuntu, he's errorphile
[09:20] <bgt421> ok this is freaking wierd. After the chown mess in shell tab 3, I can see all my files in /media/wd . In shell tab 2, I got nothing
[09:20] <sylenze> RytmenPinnen: it's called GAIM
[09:20] <RytmenPinnen> hasnt it changed name?
[09:20] <ax1s> bgt421: messed
[09:20] <sylenze> RytmenPinnen: if you want pidgin then i can help you
[09:20] <llutz> RytmenPinnen: they change  gaim into pidgin after feisty-release
[09:20] <ax1s> bgt421: oh you have root access on one of the terminals?
[09:20] <sylenze> Ilutz: no
[09:20] <Savak> it's called Pidgin sylenze
[09:21] <bgt421> ax1s: no, but i did use sudo before chown in shell3
[09:21] <bgt421> h/o
[09:21] <sylenze> wait please
[09:21] <RytmenPinnen> aha ok then :), gaim 1.2 just seems kind of outdated but I can live with it
[09:21] <sylenze> pidgin isn't precompiled for kubuntu
[09:21] <ax1s> bgt421: close all shells down and use 1 for now haha
[09:21] <sylenze> you have to make sudo apt-get build-dep gaim
[09:21] <sylenze> and NOT pidgin, it isn't pidgin
[09:21] <llutz> RytmenPinnen: theres a pidgin .deb on getdeb.net
[09:21] <sylenze> then "make"
[09:21] <sylenze> and "sudo make install"
[09:21] <RytmenPinnen> btw, will I be able to update to 7.10 over then net?
[09:21] <Savak> just use the tarball
[09:22] <bgt421> hehe ok. that's wierd. in shell 2 I just used sudo su. as root it sees nothing on the drive
[09:22] <RytmenPinnen> ah, I'll look into that
[09:22] <Savak> or bz2
[09:22] <bgt421> I;m going to close and restart terminal
[09:22] <bgt421> ok, it's all there now.
[09:22] <ax1s> hehe
[09:22] <ax1s> that's wacky bg
[09:23] <RytmenPinnen> llutz thanks for that site btw, been looking for a .deb equilant to rpmfind
[09:23] <bgt421> Thanks, ax1s. Is there a good reason for what happened, or is that just a bug?
[09:23] <ax1s> bgt421: if there is a reason, i couldn't tell ya
[09:23] <sylenze> ax1s: damn, still isn't working
[09:23] <ax1s> sylenze: after restarting x?
[09:23] <sylenze> ax1s: who's x!!
[09:23] <ax1s> are you sure it's a GUI program?
[09:24] <sylenze> ax1s: no
[09:24] <sylenze> i'm not sure
[09:24] <sylenze> i think i could need an insurance
[09:25] <ax1s> sylenze: I'm installing to check it out
[09:25] <scheater5> i'm having trouble getting a real-time kernel installed
[09:25] <sylenze> ax1s: ok it's dotGNU
[09:27] <Feudster> Hello all
[09:27] <Feudster> Is anyone here familiar with getting bbc radio
[09:28] <Savak> it requires real player plugin... so no heh
[09:28] <kcg> hiya, can you start two kaffeine windows, e.g. play two different videos at the same time?
[09:28] <Feudster> i have installed real player for linux
[09:28] <sylenze> ...
[09:28] <ax1s> replayer works fine
[09:28] <Feudster> and the fire fox media extension
[09:28] <ax1s> not the one from the repos
[09:29] <Savak> tried it in the standalone player?
[09:29] <ax1s> get real player off the website and follow the installer
[09:29] <Feudster> yup
[09:29] <kcg> Feudster, i can't quite remember the details but i think for bbc radio, you play it as standalone player
[09:29] <kcg> in real player
[09:29] <Feudster> i have tried that but no luck
[09:29] <Feudster> it just causes me to loose my wired connection
[09:29] <kcg> how?
[09:29] <Feudster> i have no idea how
[09:30] <Feudster> but when i run real player i loose network
[09:30] <Savak> you using real player 10
[09:30] <Feudster> yup
[09:30] <kcg> sorry mate, i have no idea of that situation
[09:30] <Feudster> ok
[09:30] <ax1s> i'm listening to bbc radio now
[09:31] <ax1s> took a while to click in
[09:31] <ax1s> mplayer plugin
[09:31] <Savak> checked out http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/audiohelp_nix.shtml ?
[09:31] <spongebob_> hello
[09:31] <Feudster> yes have that
[09:31] <Feudster> thx will have a look
[09:31] <ax1s> and when you click on the stream
[09:31] <ax1s> there should be a link that says "use stand alone player"
[09:31] <ax1s> click on that and let it buffer
[09:32] <Savak> probably some other plugin is handling audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin
[09:32] <Savak> instructions on that link should help
[09:32] <kcg> can anyone tell me how to play two videos together in kaffeine (diff. windows) pls?
[09:32] <ax1s> kcg: i use gxine for that
[09:32] <spongebob_> i c my craph card detailes on xorg.conf but can not set to display parameters already installed ati driver (bin) i m understan w-hat happened
[09:33] <ax1s> spongebob_: wow you need about another 500 episodes of spongebob before i can understand you
[09:33] <ax1s> and fuck this i'm out
[09:33] <sylenze> ax1s what's up
[09:33] <peters_> Is there a way to use kopete w/o having to put in the password every time?
[09:34] <spongebob_> hmmm ok look externalthree.com/2.png
[09:35] <scheater5> peters: i know in gaim there's a checkbox for "remember password," is there nothing similar in kopote?  For it to work for me on kubuntu with Gaim had to have the wallet open.
[09:35] <peters_> Kopete uses Kwallet, so you have to put in the root pass to open kwallet
[09:36] <peters_> Dispite the fact that I have Kopete set to "Always allow" in kwallet, it still prompts everytime I open it.
[09:36] <RytmenPinnen> Hi there ho there
[09:36] <spongebob_> hmmm ok look externalthree.com/2.png comment pls
[09:37] <waylandbill> peters_: you don't need the root password. You need the password you specified to access the wallet. It may seem like the root password if you used the same for both.
[09:37] <peters_> Yeah, you're right. I forgot about that.
[09:38] <peters_> I don't want it to prompt for a pass though, how can I get rid of the password?
[09:38] <waylandbill> peters_: and prompting for the password is similar to pgp signing. Your allowing it only allows it to use the wallet, not enter the wallet access password
[09:38] <RytmenPinnen> dunno if you know but www.getdeb.net has ardour2.0.5.deb for ubuntu and its flavors
[09:38] <RytmenPinnen> damn
[09:38] <waylandbill> you simply remove the password from the wallet, but note the security risk inherit with doing so.
[09:38] <RytmenPinnen> sry wrong chat :D
[09:39] <peters_> how do I remove the password?
[09:40] <waylandbill> give an empty password. Click the wallet in the tray. Right click the desired wallet and select "Change Password" and use an empty one as the replacement.
[09:40] <peters_> thank you waylandbill
[09:41] <waylandbill> peters_: no problem.
[09:45] <dga> how do i exit kde? do i have to kill kdm?
[09:45] <konrad> can somebody help me with ndswrapper ?
[09:46] <Arwen> dga, um, K->Logout?
[09:46] <waylandbill> dga: ctrl-alt-backspace or /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[09:47] <DexterF> backports
[09:47] <DexterF> darn
[09:47] <DexterF> !backports
[09:47] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[09:47] <waylandbill> dga: it all depends on how far you want to exit. Logout will end the session. Stopping kdm will stop the X server. Restarting kdm or C-A-B will restart X.
[09:48] <spongebob_> why cant set my display parameters with displayconfig (printscreen stay on externalthree.com/2.png)
[09:48] <dorkface> How can I tell if my install is a 32 or 64-bit os
[09:49] <das6745> hi all, who can help me in xhtml??
[09:50] <waylandbill> dorkface: maybe /proc/version?
[09:51] <dorkface> Hmmm, it seems to just have the version
[09:51] <spongebob_> !displayconfig
[09:51] <DexterF> !pinning
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about displayconfig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <ubotu> pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[09:52] <jhutchins> dorkface: uname -a
[09:54] <dorkface> still just gave version.  Would googling the version tell me?
[09:54] <DexterF> how do I pin backports?
[09:55] <Savak> whats the version dorkface?
[09:56] <fyrmedic> Can anyone offer suggestions for flashing a bios. No DOS or windows on the computer and no BIOS memory as the battery was removed. UGGGHHH!!!
[09:56] <dhq> ktorrent 2.2.2 is not there in repos
[09:56] <waylandbill> dorkface: are you trying to script something that depends on one or the other?
[09:57] <DexterF> fyrmedic: BartPE or install DOS
[09:57] <dorkface> I want to use the SMP client for folding@home, and it requires a 64-bit version of linux
[09:57] <spongebob_> foun a win 98 starting disk and paste in to cd ur bios updater and version
[09:58] <majnoon> having /etc/hosts problems with xfce :(
[09:58] <waylandbill> dorkface: did you do the install?
[09:58] <dorkface> not yet, I wanted to make sure I had a compatible OS first
[09:58] <tazgodx> is there a good how to i can read on how to install an FTP server?
[09:58] <waylandbill> !ftpd
[09:58] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[09:58] <Savak> install will prob tell u ;)
[09:58] <fyrmedic> DexterF: So, you think that it will boot off of CD if I get a DOS boot CD built then flash from dos?
[09:59] <spongebob_> majnoon u set 2 name to ur os
[09:59] <waylandbill> dorkface: you have the iso? it will say 64 in the filename if it is.
[09:59] <DexterF> fyrmedic: totally didnt understand that
[09:59] <spongebob_> check ur hostname maybe u have 2 name and different
[09:59] <majnoon> spongebob_: this my /etc/hosts 3 lines
[09:59] <majnoon> 127.0.0.1 localhost majnoon
[09:59] <majnoon> 127.0.1.1 majnoon
[09:59] <majnoon> 192.168.1.101 majnoon
[09:59] <Savak> what's the output of uname -a dorkface?
[10:00] <fyrmedic> DexterF: The computer with no BIOS should boot off of CD if I have one built as a bootdisk?
[10:00] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: i use vsftp. it's pretty easy to install and configure.
[10:00] <fyrmedic> DexterF: evne with no BIOS?
[10:00] <majnoon> i added last line as a test
[10:00] <Savak> can u get into bios fyrmedic?
[10:00] <fyrmedic> No
[10:00] <majnoon> spongebob_: you see that ??
[10:00] <Savak> even if u reset bios by jumping the board?
[10:01] <tazgodx> thanks
[10:01] <fyrmedic> Savak: don't know how to do that
[10:01] <waylandbill> yes. uname -a is a good call. i686 would be 32 bit version
[10:01] <DexterF> fyrmedic: "no bios"? there's no such thing as "no bios" unless you flashed it to death
[10:01] <waylandbill> and without the bios, the motherboard would fail to boot anyway.
[10:01] <Savak> so no bios means u get a black screen and nothing else on startup...? :P
[10:02] <DexterF> if even the bios is dead, youll need a new bios chip from the manufacturer or a new board
[10:02] <fyrmedic> Savak: yes
[10:02] <Savak> new board time then
[10:02] <Savak> can try jumping bios, need to locate the jumper on the board to hard-reset bios
[10:03] <fyrmedic> That's nice. Two boards in 1 week.
[10:03] <waylandbill> probably would be best to call the manufacturer
[10:03] <dorkface> Savak: "Linux l33t-fl33t 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 200 i686 GNU/Linux"
[10:03] <Savak> should be a section in manual for hard reseting bios
[10:03] <Savak> yeah waylandbill was right, i686 means 32-bit version :P
[10:03] <dorkface> doh
[10:04] <fyrmedic> It's a very old machine and I don't have any documentation from it anymore.
[10:04] <waylandbill> Savak: not always. Some manuals royally suck.
[10:04] <spongebob_> dont touch any bridge
[10:04] <Savak> otherwise you'd have ia64, x86_64 or something similar
[10:04] <spongebob_> i have 3 mainbord (no bios)
[10:04] <secleinteer> hi, does anyone know how i can assign custom shortcuts in firefox?
[10:04] <dorkface> Oh well, I'm going to reinstall it soon anyway, this is just a temp system so I can transfer backups to it
[10:05] <Savak> ah, well removing the cmos battery has the same effect
[10:05] <andrew_> can anyone help me with the java installation?
[10:05] <Savak> but if you've done that and no luck.. think your doomed
[10:05] <dorkface> secleinteer
[10:05] <dorkface> : as in keyboard shortcuts?
[10:05] <yamal> spongebob_: your displayconfig problem is probably a bug. Run "systemsettings" from a console, reproduce the error, then close it and check the console for any error messages. Put the result on a pastebin please.
[10:05] <secleinteer> dorkface: yeah
[10:05] <Biovore> andrew_: apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre
[10:05] <waylandbill> Savak: and shorting the leads of the bypass capacitor on the cmos circuit if you don't want to leave the battery out for weeks.
[10:06] <Savak> good call waylandbill :P
[10:06] <secleinteer> dorkface: you know how to do that?
[10:06] <dorkface> In your system settings, there should be a keyboad and mouse icon.  In there, there is a keyboard shortcuts icon, in there, you can do what you wish :)
[10:06] <andrew_> I already have that...
[10:07] <waylandbill> Savak: electronics major. I know all about that stuff. :-)
[10:07] <Savak> beats my kids electronics set lol
[10:07] <dorkface> secleinteer: If I may suggest, the windows key is perfect for this, since it won't be bound for ANYTHING else
[10:08] <secleinteer> dorkface: well, i'm using the 'doze key for opening the kmenu
[10:08] <andrew_> I need Jre 1.5 or greater to run frostwire.....
[10:08] <dorkface> nm then :)
[10:08] <andrew_> how do I get about that?
[10:08] <secleinteer> dorkface: the main thing i'm interested in doing is assigning shift-tab to moving back a tab in firefox
[10:08] <secleinteer> like i have in all my kde apps
[10:08] <Savak> andrew_ jre6 will work fine
[10:08] <evri2> Guys,i try to install gutsy kopete in order to use my webcam(i think that would support v4l2 but it doesn't).Now my system settings screwed up.How can i rebuild it? http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/8164/snapshoat1dn9.jpg
[10:08] <secleinteer> dorkface: but idk if you can do that in a non-kde app, like firefox
[10:08] <andrew_> lemmie try it again....
[10:10] <waylandbill> Savak: the funny thing is I work in RF heat sealing, not the electronics field anymore.
[10:11] <Savak> its rare people do jobs that suit them anymore :P
[10:12] <waylandbill> Savak: so true.
[10:12] <waylandbill> still doing better than fast food so not too bad. lol
[10:13] <Savak> lol I somehow came in charge of a datacentre's network beginning of the year
[10:13] <Savak> only just got ccna :P
[10:13] <dorkface> wow
[10:15] <dorkface> Does kubuntu have a default cd burning utility?
[10:15] <llutz> k3b
[10:15] <dorkface> doh
[10:16] <dorkface> Shouldn't have missed that, hehe
[10:17] <waylandbill> dorkface: my opinion is that k3b can blow the doors off of nero.
[10:17] <ScorpKing> evri2: is those duplicates from the other menus?
[10:17] <waylandbill> kudos to k3b's development team. It's good.
[10:17] <dorkface> I don't need anything special, I just wanted to burn the 64-bit version of kubuntu
[10:18] <evri2> ScorpKing: no.My system settings screwed up.Also kcontrol is empty now...
[10:18] <waylandbill> dorkface: this is probably a little late, but do you have a supported cpu?
[10:18] <dorkface> yep, q6600
[10:18] <ScorpKing> evri2: that suck! gimme a sec.
[10:19] <holycow> hey guys
[10:19] <stephen_> hello
[10:19] <stephen_> i need help with my wifi device please......
[10:19] <holycow> where do i change the theme for the loging screen (kdm i guess)?
[10:19] <stephen_> ....i need to set it to accept ad-hoc connections
[10:20] <ScorpKing> evri2: what happens if u create a second user? does the second user have the same problem?
[10:21] <ScorpKing> holycow: in control centre
[10:21] <evri2> ScorpKing: i cannot test it now,because i removed a kde related package and all my kde apps are being uninstalled now
[10:22] <evri2> i tried to download gutsy's kopete and now all my system screwed up
[10:22] <evri2> when i try to uninstall it,all my kde related packages are being uninstalled now
[10:22] <ScorpKing> evri2: outch!
[10:23] <evri2> this is second time
[10:23] <stephen_> d--_--b
[10:23] <evri2> ScorpKing: i won't try to install anything from gutsy repos again (beside alsa because i need 1.0.14 )
[10:24] <ScorpKing> evri2: use aptitude and read the list of things that will be changed next time. :-)
[10:24] <dhq> which is the best and fastest server for repos
[10:24] <ScorpKing> the one in ur country i think
[10:24] <dorkface> Is there a settings and file trasfer equivalent in Kubuntu?
[10:25] <dhq> ScorpKing, my country servers always down
[10:25] <ScorpKing> dorkface: save everything in ur home directory including hidden files and dirs.
[10:26] <stephen_> HELP
[10:26] <stephen_> pleas
[10:26] <stephen_> e
[10:26] <stephen_> someone :(
[10:26] <ScorpKing> just wait...
[10:26] <vesnol> heyo
[10:30] <dhq> tell me the fastest server country of repos where everything is updated
[10:30] <Savak> stephen: iwconfig ethx mode Ad-Hoc ?
[10:30] <Savak> where x is your card's id
[10:30] <stephen_> ok
[10:30] <stephen_> thank you
[10:30] <stephen_> im trying to get xlink kai to work on linux
[10:30] <stephen_> i have the program running
[10:31] <stephen_> but i need to connect my wifi max to the psp
[10:33] <tazgodx> is there a way i can set up vsftp to allow my useraccount full access to another user also?
[10:33] <holycow> aha after update it work snow
[10:34] <Biovore> tazgodx: I don't think so.. That break security..
[10:34] <holycow> where do i change the 'type of login' gdm has capacity to customize login screens quite a lot, does kdm have the same facility?
[10:34] <holycow> i didn't see the ability to change anything more than a wallpaper in the admin utility
[10:34] <Biovore> tazgodx: you could put the 2 users in the same group and then make the files all +770 and change the group on all the files to that new group..
[10:39] <tazgodx> haha, i just want write access on one folder on my mythtv box. but when i installed mythtv it added the username mythtv, and i don't know the password
[10:39] <Biovore> tazgodx: you can always set one :-P
[10:40] <Biovore> tazgodx: or chmod +777 -R  to that one folder (read/write by everyone)
[10:41] <Biovore> tazgodx: if you have anonymous ftp access disabled.. That means only authenticed people can modify the directory..
[10:42] <Biovore> attack of the zombies..
[10:43] <tazgodx> hmmm, thanks, ill work on this a bit more
[10:44] <holycow> aha!
[10:44] <holycow> kdm themes
[10:44] <holycow> sweet now to figure out how to install some
[10:44] <Biovore> oO
[10:44] <Biovore> what kind of themes
[10:44] <Biovore> color?
[10:44] <holycow> http://kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=40
[10:44] <holycow> don't know
[10:44] <holycow> kdm themes it says
[10:45] <holycow> the defaultone is not that appealing imho, not complaining just customizing
[10:45] <Biovore> http://kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=40
[10:45] <Biovore> I modify my desktop up as well.. default colors suck..
[10:45] <Biovore> but be wear.. setting your backgrounds to black causes weirdness with konqueror and firefox..
[10:46] <holycow> i'm going to join up the kde4 art teams
[10:46] <holycow> i'd like to see some better variety in the default shipping packs
[10:46] <holycow> oh it does?
[10:46] <enry> goodbye!
[10:46] <holycow> aha neato, good to know
[10:46] <holycow> thx
[10:47] <Biovore> holycow: Those are kdm themes (login screens)
[10:47] <tazgodx> Biovore: i have a mythtv folder in /var/lib that i want access to on the ftp, still same way? chmod +777 -R?
[10:48] <holycow> thats what i'm talking about
[10:48] <holycow> kubuntus kdm default login is kinda boring
[10:48] <Biovore> tazgodx: probably want to not do that to /var/lib
[10:48] <DaSkreech> holycow: You just missed the competition
[10:48] <holycow> oh yeah? what competition? url?
[10:49] <DaSkreech> http://pd.ruphy.org I think
[10:49] <Biovore> holycow: To install kdm themes I think there is a packages call kdm-theme-manager that will read those and setup the login screen theme
[10:49] <Biovore> holycow: apt-get install kdmtheme
[10:50] <holycow> aha!
[10:50] <holycow> danke
[10:50] <Biovore> holycow: I get to it via using kdesu kcontrol
[10:50] <DaSkreech> holycow: In anycase you want to join #kde-artists
[10:50] <Biovore> but there is proabably a different way..
[10:51] <DaSkreech> holycow: Unless you want to improve oxygen specifically then it's #oxygen
[10:51] <holycow> *nod* k
[10:52] <holycow> lol now where did the menu item for kdm theme manager go
[10:52] <holycow> hehe
[10:52] <DaSkreech> holycow: set them to auto join :)
[10:53] <holycow> done
[10:54] <acemo> for a nvidia geforce2 would the opensource drivers or the nvidia drivers be adviced?
[10:55] <holycow> Biovore: ohhhhhh haha, there it is
[10:55] <holycow> damnit i would of never found that my self
[10:55] <holycow> danke kindly
[10:56] <Biovore> yeah.. I don't know if they every added it the default system config thing..  kinda of a glitch imo.
[10:59] <Biovore> holycow: that program dosn't work on gusty though..
[10:59] <holycow> yeah i'm running that, it successfully change the kdm theme here
[11:00] <holycow> even though it says something about override
[11:01] <Biovore> holycow: hmm..  I had to go into /etc/default/kdm.rc/ and delete the 20_kubuntu_defaults file
[11:01] <holycow> it must be a bug
[11:01] <holycow> :)
[11:02] <fyrmedic> Does anyone know of a package that I can use to recover data from a windows partition that is bad and transfer it to another drive?
[11:03] <Savak> tried Knoppix?
[11:04] <ScorpKing> dd_rescue
[11:04] <DaSkreech> fyrmedic: dd
[11:04] <DaSkreech> -rescue
[11:04] <DaSkreech> damn
[11:04] <DaSkreech> _rescue
[11:04] <DaSkreech> stupid awkward shift key
[11:05] <Savak> good thing you got two of em ;) lol
[11:05] <Biovore> roflz
[11:05] <fyrmedic> I was just reading about that dd_rescue.
[11:05] <ScorpKing> fyrmedic: dd_rescue wont get the broken drive too hot. make sure u dont stop it once it's started. the drive will get worse every time u run dd or dd_rescue on it.
[11:06] <fyrmedic> Will it clone the drive? or will it just copy to a new location?
[11:06] <holycow> Biovore: i really like the true nature kdm theme
[11:07] <holycow> sweet, thanks for  the heads up on all of htis
[11:07] <Savak> .... and possible girls
[11:13] <tazgodx> ok, so does anyone know if its possible to set up a FTP server on my home mythtv box that will give me access to write to "/var/lib/mythtv", i just want to be able to send movies and music straight to my mythtv box over FTP
[11:14] <DaSkreech> Short aswer is yes
[11:14] <DaSkreech> answer
[11:14] <tazgodx> sweet, how about a long ansewr now :)
[11:14] <tazgodx> answer
[11:14] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: i use vsftpd.
[11:14] <tazgodx> i have vsftpd set up
[11:14] <redfive> ok, why am I not getting blurr window boarders using emerarld with compiz fuzion?
[11:15] <tazgodx> but when i log on i have to use my username and pass, and it only give me access to "/home/username/"
[11:15] <DaSkreech> Though if you have ssh alredy running it's probably easier just to do that
[11:16] <GoodHabit> Hello. At kernels update /boot/grub/menu.lst updates too. But writing wrong root directory! Where I can find that settings?
[11:16] <tazgodx> i can transfer files with SSSH?
[11:16] <tazgodx> SSH
[11:16] <llutz> GoodHabit: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:17] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: yes. use scp
[11:17] <llutz> tazgodx: or sftp
[11:17] <GoodHabit> No,
[11:17] <GoodHabit> A mean where i can fix it?
[11:17] <llutz> GoodHabit: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:17] <GoodHabit> ^))
[11:17] <GoodHabit> Sry.
[11:17] <GoodHabit> I have some trobles with english
[11:18] <GoodHabit> Thy to understand - updating - autoediting wrong - i wanna fix for: updating - autoediting right.
[11:18] <stephen_> hmmm
[11:19] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: in /etc/vsftpd.conf set option anonymous_enable=YES
[11:19] <stephen_> whats the mode opposite to ad-hoc?
[11:19] <DaSkreech> GoodHabit: What is your main language?
[11:19] <llutz> stephen_: managed
[11:19] <stephen_> ty
[11:19] <GoodHabit> DaSkreech: At my main language channel I asked before, TY.
[11:19] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: and anon_upload_enable=YES
[11:20] <GoodHabit> So I'll try to rephrase it.
[11:20] <DaSkreech> GoodHabit: ok :)
[11:20] <GoodHabit> Automatic grub updater in ubuntu is updating grub wrong. Where I can find settings for automatic grub updater in ubuntu?
[11:21] <GoodHabit> Is it ok?
[11:21] <GoodHabit> )
[11:21] <GoodHabit> Because i wanna that updater working right.
[11:22] <llutz> GoodHabit: plz paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst   to pastebin
[11:22] <llutz> !pastebin | GoodHabit
[11:22] <ubotu> GoodHabit: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:22] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: and anon_mkdir_write_enable=YES
[11:23] <tazgodx> hmm, now i get "500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable anonymous root"
[11:23] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: haha. gimme a sec. anonymous not enabled on mine.
[11:24] <GoodHabit> llutz: I can configure it myself. And i does it. But I want to grub-updater will workin fine. Whatever my grub - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36098/
[11:25] <DaSkreech> GoodHabit: You edited your grub manually?
[11:25] <GoodHabit> DaSkreech: Yes.
[11:25] <llutz> GoodHabit: whats wrong with it? check line 72 (# kopt) for root-fs
[11:25] <llutz> GoodHabit: and line 80 too
[11:26] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: this is getting complicated. have u tried man vsftpd.conf?
[11:26] <tazgodx> haha, tried what?
[11:26] <GoodHabit> llutz: So by editing them grub-configurator will be work fine next time?
[11:26] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: man vsftpd.conf?
[11:27] <NDPTAL85> Is Beryl native by default yet?
[11:27] <llutz> GoodHabit: thats the setting it uses, yes. i told you 3 time
[11:27] <llutz> s
[11:27] <NDPTAL85> Or installed by default I mean
[11:27] <DaSkreech> NDPTAL85: No
[11:27] <tazgodx> well, i don't know what that is, so i guess i didn't do that
[11:27] <DaSkreech> no where near stable enough
[11:28] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: haha. all the options is in there.:-)
[11:28] <NDPTAL85> DaSkreech: Do you think it will be by the time October roll around?
[11:28] <majnoon> me bored (so installing exploder)
[11:28] <DaSkreech> NDPTAL85: no but it's a pointless argument :)
[11:28] <DaSkreech> if you want it install it
[11:28] <DaSkreech> If you just want the cube I think there is a button for that by default
[11:29] <DaSkreech> off by default
[11:29] <NDPTAL85> I already have installed it
[11:29] <lamperl> hi
[11:29] <NDPTAL85> But I'm thinking of re-installing my Kubuntu install from scratch
[11:29] <majnoon> <<having less trouble with kde4 then xfce
[11:29] <NDPTAL85> I've upgraded it from an 6.10 to 7.06 and not everything went right.
[11:29] <GoodHabit> llutz: It is just because i was thinking what commented lines are ignored by grub...
[11:30] <Savak[afk] > grrr, remind me how to kill ghosts :P
[11:30] <NDPTAL85> Or 6.06 to 7.04 rather
[11:30] <llutz> GoodHabit: have you ever tried to read the comments in that file?
[11:30] <lamperl> someone knows how to get winamp style (gauss) visualization for amarok?
[11:30] <DaSkreech> NDPTAL85: #ubuntu-effects is here to ease you through the pain. It's not that bad
[11:30] <majnoon> gnome wasn't working before but nnow it is
[11:30] <stephen_> hi ppl....i have finally been able to detect my psp on an ad-hoc wireless connection. however, i need to make the ethernet be used for the internet and the wireless adapter for my ad-hoc connection
[11:30] <stephen_> any tips?
[11:30] <drif_> Savak[afk] : ghosts, on mars or maybe irc? :D
[11:30] <majnoon> xfce not working still
[11:31] <stephen_> type /msg nickserv ghost (username) (password)
[11:31] <Savak_> and if the nick is unregistered? :P
[11:31] <redfive> !compiz
[11:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:31] <majnoon> it a  <insert favorite BAD words here> /etc/hosts problem
[11:32] <ScorpKing> lol
[11:32] <stephen_> is that compiz for me?
[11:32] <vesnol> how can i install a ati driver on kubuntu 7.10?
[11:33] <stephen_> you cant kill a nick that isnt regged
[11:33] <Savak_> Thought so :(
[11:33] <majnoon> i do that for couple reasons  #1 less likely to get kicked #2 also included non-native english speakers to have fun too
[11:33] <Savak_> It'll die eventually ;)
[11:33] <SlimG> When will openoffice be replaced by koffice out-of-box in Kubuntu?
[11:33] <majnoon> like then ??
[11:34] <vers__> how do you run a game that u just installed if its not on the kmenu?
[11:34] <ScorpKing> yes
[11:34] <stephen_> vers_ what game is it?
[11:34] <vers__> amphetamine? i think...
[11:34] <vers__> im just tryin to figure this out
[11:35] <vers__> DLing games and apps
[11:35] <vers__> and stuff
[11:35] <SlimG> vers__: Alt+F2 -> write: amphetamine -> press Enter
[11:35] <vers__> thanks
[11:35] <majnoon> kappfinder ??
[11:35] <bgt421> does anyone know how I can tell what version of KDE i'm running?
[11:35] <vers__> could not run the specified command
[11:36] <vers__> ????
[11:36] <llutz> kde-config -v
[11:36] <ScorpKing> help > about
[11:36] <bgt421> thanks!
[11:36] <vers__> SlimG: u there?
[11:36] <majnoon> i think i have ALL the WM's on this box
[11:36] <majnoon> only one no working is xfce
[11:37] <majnoon> i'm in gnome now
[11:37] <SlimG> vers: write: amph instead of amphetamine
[11:38] <vesnol> does anyone know how i can install the ati driver on kubuntu?
[11:38] <vers> ha...thanks
[11:38] <majnoon> trying to figure out how to get multiple destops in kde4 though
[11:38] <SlimG> When will openoffice be replaced by koffice out-of-box in Kubuntu?
[11:38] <majnoon> vesnol: try installing envy
[11:38] <majnoon> !envy
[11:38] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[11:39] <majnoon> worked good for me
[11:39] <vers> wow....that game is horrible
[11:39] <DaSkreech> !ati | vensol
[11:39] <ubotu> vensol: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:39] <DaSkreech> !ati | vesnol
[11:39] <ubotu> vesnol: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:40] <DaSkreech> SlimG: When Koffice is up to snuff
[11:40] <Savak> whats the default firewall setup in Kubuntu
[11:40] <DaSkreech> bgt421: under any Kapp go help -> about KDE
[11:40] <SlimeyPete> it's open by default, Savak
[11:40] <DaSkreech> majnoon: Ratpoison?
[11:40] <Savak> cant seem to find any settings\interface for it
[11:41] <majnoon> think so
[11:41] <llutz> Savak: there aren't any
[11:41] <DaSkreech> !firewall
[11:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:41] <GoodHabit> llutz: No, but I will, ty.
[11:41] <SlimeyPete> there isn't one AFAIK. You could install firestarter or use iptables from the commandline
[11:41] <majnoon> me want xfce to work though
[11:41] <Savak> ah ha :)
[11:41] <majnoon> it bitches about /etc/hosts
[11:42] <llutz> majnoon: whats wrong with your hosts?
[11:42] <majnoon> not sure
[11:42] <SlimG> DaSkreech: imho openoffice is terribly slow (loading) and is poorly integrated into the kde environment, what's left to work on at koffice to finally be able to replace openoffice?
[11:42] <majnoon> llutz: i'll put it here just 3 lines
[11:42] <DaSkreech> SlimG: .doc compatibilty
[11:43] <majnoon> 127.0.0.1 localhost majnoon
[11:43] <majnoon> 127.0.1.1 majnoon
[11:43] <majnoon> 192.168.1.101 majnoon
[11:43] <majnoon> that it
[11:43] <anthronaut> SlimG: Haven't used an office environment for months..
[11:44] <vers> how about 3ddesktop?
[11:44] <llutz> majnoon: 1 hostname with 3 ips....
[11:44] <majnoon> i tried the last one as an experiment
[11:44] <majnoon> and ubuntu site said put first two
[11:45] <vers> ive installed but i cant find it
[11:45] <easytiger_home> my intel pro wireless worked on fiesty beta release cd i had kicking around. however it doesn't work on the feisty release
[11:45] <llutz> majnoon: strange, i never used it that way. just " 127.0.0.1 localhost ,  192.168.1.101 majnoon"
[11:46] <easytiger_home> and is driving me crazy
[11:46] <majnoon> is there a gnome or kde wrapper for changing that ??
[11:48] <DaSkreech> hi AmyRose
[11:48] <SlimG> DaSkreech: Do you think OOo will be replaced by koffice in time for Kubuntu 8.04 ?
[11:48] <DaSkreech> Nope but it's a small matter
[11:48] <DaSkreech>  just install koffice and make it the default
[11:48] <DaSkreech>  !default
[11:48] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[11:50] <easytiger_home> !wpa
[11:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:50] <Savak> ok guarddog is mean :P
[11:51] <lzfy> Hi all
[11:51] <mikko> anyone got a moment to help out a nubbin? :o
[11:51] <SlimG> DaSkreech: I'm not having any problems with file associations, just looking forward to a Kubuntu release without OOo (/me Really dislikes it in favour of koffice)
[11:52] <SlimG> DaSkreech: Thank you for your help
[11:52] <nicolai_> !ask | mikko
[11:52] <ubotu> mikko: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:52] <Savak> Is it normal to use guarddog's built in zones?
[11:53] <DaSkreech> SlimG: jump into #kubuntu-devel and #koffice
[11:53] <DaSkreech> See what you can do to help
[11:53] <Biovore> I have noticed that UT2K4 + Gusty == OMG HAX :-)
[11:53] <mikko> does any installable version of pidgin exist yet?
[11:53] <llutz> mikko: there's a.deb on getdeb.net
[11:53] <mikko> oh
[11:53] <Biovore> I don't know if they have  made a .deb for the repos yet..
[11:54] <DaSkreech> !info pidgin gutsy
[11:54] <ubotu> pidgin: graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.1.1-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 572 kB, installed size 1644 kB
[11:54] <SlimG> DaSkreech: I'm not a programmer
[11:54] <DaSkreech> SlimG: Don't have to be
[11:54] <Arwen> anyone here used git before? maybe I'm stupid, but how do you checkout a copy of the source?
[11:54] <DaSkreech> Raising awareness helps a lot
[11:54] <DaSkreech> organizing a list of things to be done helps a lot
[11:54] <SlimG> DaSkreech: hmm.. good point
[11:55] <sFEARs> hello
[11:55] <[Admin] > guys, I just have a quick question.... what's the name of the tool to change the boot menu order... because now I have Windows as default OS on this machine.
[11:56] <Savak> grub?
[11:56] <sFEARs> i have a question that has a little something to do with that
[11:56] <Savak> usually /boot/grub/menu.lst if I remember
[11:56] <[Admin] > ah just a file to edit then...
[11:56] <ScorpKing> [Admin] : edit /boot/grub/menu.list
[11:56] <nicolai_> Savak: yep, you remember
[11:57] <sFEARs> i just installed kubuntu onto my windows drive.. last time i did that it automatically gave me a dual boot menu. This time it didn't. Kubuntu is installed, but i have no way to boot it. Any suggestions?
[11:57] <Savak> if your talking about linux boot loader
[11:57] <Savak> otherwise it's boot.ini in Windows, which can be done in msconfig
[11:57] <sFEARs> can i load kubuntu from boot.ini
[11:57] <sFEARs> ?
[11:57] <Savak> yes but it's complicated, best to use grub
[11:58] <sFEARs> i'm kinda new at the whole linux thing
[11:58] <[Admin] > Error: no write permission for file "/boot/grub/menu.list"
[11:58] <[Admin] > lol..
[11:58] <sFEARs> i know what grub is.. but i'm not sure how to configure it
[11:58] <[Admin] > almost as bitchy as windows
[11:58] <ScorpKing> dont think he has got grub installed on the mbr
[11:58] <Sanne> [Admin] : kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:58] <ScorpKing> soz
[11:58] <nicolai_> [Admin] : right click on the file and select edit as root or kdesu as posted above
[11:58] <sFEARs> i can't get to linux to edit
[11:58] <Savak> na bitchy is when it can't find the file, Linux is just being careful ;)
[11:58] <sFEARs> it boots right to windows
[11:59] <vers> how do i run 3ddesktop
[11:59] <[Admin] > :P
[11:59] <[Admin] > careful.. thats what theyve tried with vista then :P
[11:59] <ScorpKing> thought so
[11:59] <[Admin] > careful turned out to be messy
[11:59] <Savak> lol yeah, UAC vs sudo... ummmm think sudo is more to the point ;)
[11:59] <DaSkreech> !grub | sFEARs
[11:59] <ubotu> sFEARs: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:00] <sFEARs> i guess i could use the live cd to boot into linux & configure from there
[12:00] <sFEARs> !grub
[12:00] <Savak> Windows should always be installed first, then Linux
[12:01] <[Admin] > I'm starting to like this os more and more.. don't ruin that feeling for me... I'm quite new to that :D
[12:02] <Savak> I love kubuntu, then again, I've always loved Linux since SuSE 6.2 :P
[12:02] <[Admin] > but just in case..
[12:02] <ScorpKing> [Admin] : it takes some time to get use to. don't give up. :-D haha
[12:02] <Savak> lol yeah
[12:02] <vers> yeah
[12:02] <[Admin] > i edited the lst file, and moved the last option to the front of the list.. that's ok right...
[12:03] <[Admin] > logically it is.. but is it
[12:03] <Savak> I think somewhere it needs the default option
[12:03] <DaSkreech> [Admin] : no
[12:03] <Sanne> [Admin] : there's a default option at the beginning of the menu.lst file
[12:03] <DaSkreech> [Admin] : The order only shows up where they turn up in the menu
[12:03] <ichthudion> Hello all
[12:03] <DaSkreech> [Admin] : look for a line that starts as default followed by a number
[12:03] <ScorpKing> wont it be better to use save default?
[12:04] <DaSkreech>  the number is the line that will be booted into by default
[12:04] <DaSkreech> You are going to count the lines that say title
[12:04] <DaSkreech> and start with the number 0
[12:04] <ichthudion> I just made the switch from openSUSE to Kubuntu. I was wondering how Kubuntu will hold up as a development machine
[12:04] <DaSkreech> so the first line that says title is line 0 the second is line 1 etc
[12:04] <sFEARs> how would i enable grub instead of boot.ini
[12:04] <DaSkreech> !b-e | ichthudion
[12:04] <ubotu> ichthudion: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:05] <joey_> can someone help me im on an Asus G1S and bluetooth quit working it worked a while ago but now it just quit and i havent done anything that i can think of
[12:05] <DaSkreech> sFEARs: it's in the link ubotu sent you
[12:05] <DaSkreech> !grub > sFEARs
[12:05] <Savak> 0 is the default if it's not used anyway
[12:05] <sFEARs> i didn't know i got a link
[12:05] <sFEARs> ahh.. there it is
[12:05] <sFEARs> thanks
[12:07] <ichthudion> I never realized how many dependencies my software really had until I switched over to Kubuntu
[12:07] <vesnol> hey ati driver works thanks
[12:08] <ichthudion> Another thing, how can I enable the root account
[12:08] <ScorpKing> not a good idea.
[12:08] <Sanne> !root | ichthudion
[12:08] <ubotu> ichthudion: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:08] <[Admin] > ok, changed the 0 into the 5
[12:08] <[Admin] > reboot :P
[12:08] <javaJake> Hey guys. Would you mind answering a question about Kubuntu (before I try it out).
[12:08] <javaJake> ?
[12:09] <javaJake> I really want to go KDE
[12:09] <javaJake> But how good is Kubuntu?
[12:09] <ScorpKing> great
[12:09] <ichthudion> ScorpKing, in my position it is a good thing. During my development I tend to mess things up and need root to go back and fux it
[12:09] <nicolai_> Good enough to try.
[12:09] <javaJake> Last I tried it didn't have make on the CD - an absolute must for getting latest (needed) ndiswrapper up and going. :|
[12:09] <ScorpKing> ichthudion: use sudo instead.
[12:09] <javaJake> I mean, what OS can survive without make of all software? :P
[12:09] <nicolai_> javaJake: you shouldn't need ndiswrapper anymore.
[12:10] <javaJake> Anway, does it come on the CD?
[12:10] <javaJake> For bcm43xx? Yep
[12:10] <javaJake> :)
[12:10] <javaJake> That's still in beta and highly unstable
[12:10] <ichthudion> ScorpKing, I use sudo for every day tasks. But I would feel better being able to su if the need be
[12:10] <nicolai_> javaJake: i didn't :p
[12:10] <javaJake> And restricted to 11 MB/s AFAIK
[12:10] <ScorpKing> ichthudion: if u stil want a root password then: sudo su
[12:10] <ScorpKing> ichthudion: passwd
[12:10] <javaJake> ichthudion, no no no
[12:10] <javaJake> ichthudion, sudo is more secure. Simple as that
[12:11] <ScorpKing> i agree
[12:11] <javaJake> ichthudion, with sudo, you can set up different users so taht they can only, say, manage the network.
[12:11] <javaJake> ichthudion, sudo also makes you THINK before you DO.
[12:11] <javaJake> ichthudion, with su, you don't think.
[12:11] <javaJake> You don't have to
[12:11] <ichthudion> So you are saying that if someone gets my account password and logs in, them being able to sudo is more secure than disabling sudo and having to have a root password?
[12:11] <vers> hat is a 3d desktop switcher
[12:11] <javaJake> ichthudion, your su password is about as secure as your normal one. :)
[12:11] <llutz> ichthudion: thats the way they think
[12:11] <vers> what*
[12:12] <ichthudion> vers: beryl has one
[12:12] <DaSkreech> ScorpKing: it is a good idea as long as he understands the risks
[12:12] <vers> how do i run it
[12:12] <sFEARs> let me try it out. thanks again
[12:12] <vers> or get it to work
[12:12] <DaSkreech> javaJake: Much better
[12:12] <javaJake> ichthudion, if you make a good enough password, no one will be able to crack it unless there's a hole in Linux, in which case no password is safe.
[12:12] <ichthudion> I have been on Linux for 8 years. This whole no root is irritating
[12:12] <javaJake> ichthudion, precisely!!!
[12:12] <DaSkreech> !b-e | javaJake
[12:12] <ubotu> javaJake: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:13] <javaJake> It's irritating, because doing root things should be irritating to you in the first place!
[12:13] <ichthudion> vers: Beryl can be a pain, I'm not sure how to use it on Ubuntu but I know on Fedora and openSUSE it was complicated
[12:13] <nicolai_> javaJake: you could try installing bcm43xx-fwcutter if you need to make broadcomm wireless work.
[12:13] <javaJake> nicolai_, I did all that in Dapper days.
[12:13] <javaJake> Then I tried ndiswrapper. Whew, was that a breath of fresh air
[12:13] <DaSkreech> ichthudion: The idea is that a remote hacker KNOWS that you have a root account and that's what they try to hack. If you disable root they first have to figure out which acount is your main account then try hack that
[12:14] <tobias_> !vers | compiz-fusion
[12:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:14] <tobias_> !compiz-fusion | vers
[12:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz-fusion - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:14] <javaJake> !compiz | vers
[12:14] <ubotu> vers: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:14] <ScorpKing> lol
[12:14] <javaJake> :)
[12:14] <tobias_> mkay
[12:14] <DaSkreech> VirtuoS: could you stop that please
[12:14] <Sanne> VirtuoS: can you stop those notifications, please?
[12:14] <vers> wow..thanks
[12:14] <javaJake> ichthudion, here's the deal: everything bad about "sudo" is actually a good thing, except perhaps maybe the same-password-as-normal-account deal (which isn't a problem anyway, or Ubuntu wouldn't be using it as default. Ubuntu devs aren't dumb.)
[12:15] <javaJake> ichthudion, sudo is an upgrade through and through
[12:15] <tazgodx> anyone know how i can set up vsftpd to have access to "/var/lib/mythtv"? i have been trying everything, nothing is working
[12:15] <ichthudion> Except if I need to sudo an X app I can't
[12:15] <javaJake> ichthudion, stick with sudo as long as you can!
[12:15] <javaJake> ichthudion, huh? I don't understand
[12:15] <DaSkreech> !kdesu | ichthudion
[12:15] <ubotu> ichthudion: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[12:15] <nicolai_> ichthudion: just use kdesu
[12:15] <ichthudion> I know of kdesu
[12:16] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: ur back. let me check...:)
[12:16] <danielronin> how would someone add an app, like superkaramba, to start with a new session in fiesty?
[12:16] <javaJake> ichthudion, what did you mean?
[12:16] <ichthudion> Blah, it is just different, I'm opposed to change
[12:16] <javaJake> ichthudion, :)
[12:16] <ichthudion> I like one method across all of my platforms
[12:16] <winter> so .. again
[12:16] <javaJake> ichthudion, np, it confused me at first, and bugged me too
[12:16] <ichthudion> I have no sudo on Solaris
[12:16] <winter> how can i add some programs to autostart ?
[12:17] <tazgodx> thanks ScorpKing
[12:17] <javaJake> ichthudion, well... that's also good. That gives you a second to think "wait a minute". :)
[12:17] <javaJake> Anyway, I'll stop now.
[12:17] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: np. might be a little while.
[12:17] <martijn81> does enyone know an KDE-alternative for cssedit?
[12:17] <tazgodx> ill be here for a while, im done trying do figure it out alone
[12:18] <ScorpKing> lol
[12:18] <martijn81> http://macrabbit.com/cssedit/
[12:18] <javaJake> So, what's different about Kubuntu vs. Ubuntu? (If someone has a link, that'd be more appreciated.)
[12:18] <martijn81> javaJake: one is KDE one is Gnome
[12:19] <ScorpKing> javaJake: check out screenshots on kubuntu.org and kde.org
[12:19] <javaJake> No no
[12:20] <javaJake> There's differences aren't there?>
[12:20] <javaJake> I mean, make is one...
[12:20] <javaJake> But isn't Kubuntu different somehow...? I was almost sure there was... :)
[12:20] <javaJake> Well, anyway, I'll try it
[12:20] <ScorpKing> it better :D haha
[12:21] <javaJake> Ever since I installed Kopete on GNOME, and almost installed kedit (terminal within editor? NICE!) I've been considering an OS change.
[12:21] <stephen_> hmmm
[12:21] <martijn81> javaJake: just download and try the desktop-cd(live) and see for yourself. Only you can deside best.
[12:21] <stephen_> can i have two connections at the same time
[12:21] <danielronin> how do you add an app to start with a new session in KDE?
[12:21] <stephen_> like ethernet and wifi
[12:21] <danielronin> i'm trying to make superkaramba start on login
[12:22] <javaJake> martijn81, yea... *sigh*... time's limited, but I'll give it a go
[12:22] <stephen_> i want to use the ethernet as a internet connection and the wifi adapter as an ad-hoc connection
[12:22] <stephen_> but Knetwork manager only lets you have one connection
[12:23] <Biovore> stephen_: simple solution.. don't use knetwork manager..  Thats what I do..
[12:23] <stephen_> what alternative is there?
[12:24] <Biovore> The Command line..
[12:24] <llutz> stephen_: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[12:24] <Biovore> ^ that always works.. :-)
[12:24] <stephen_> i need to have the connections at the same time
[12:24] <stephen_> will that be possible?
[12:24] <Biovore> yes
[12:24] <stephen_> ty
[12:24] <stephen_> i love you all
[12:24] <Biovore> The GUI tools are ment for stupid simple things.. get more complex you have to go to the command line..
[12:25] <stephen_> hmmm
[12:25] <stephen_> what do i have to edit
[12:25] <stephen_> i dunno cos im new to linux
[12:25] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: try http://vsftpdrocks.org/faq/ and search google - vsftpd anonymous setup
[12:25] <DaSkreech> !autostart | danielronin
[12:25] <ubotu> danielronin: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[12:26] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: i'm still looking. will let u know if i find something.
[12:26] <tazgodx> k
[12:27] <DaSkreech> javajake: It's not so much an OS change as interface change
[12:27] <DaSkreech>  with some new apps :0
[12:27] <DaSkreech> :-)
[12:27] <DaSkreech> and a better community
[12:27] <DaSkreech>  shhhhhhh!
[12:27] <lavacano201014> how do i change display managers?
[12:28] <lavacano201014> i installed GNOME on Kubuntu and stayed with KDM, but now ive changed my mind
[12:28] <DaSkreech> !gdm
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <lavacano201014> !display managers
[12:28] <DaSkreech> lavacano201014: You can just install it I think it will ask you if you ant to switch it to the default
[12:29] <lavacano201014> i have already installed it
[12:29] <tazgodx> before you log in there is a setting to change desktop manager
[12:29] <lavacano201014> i just didnt want to use it until now
[12:29] <lavacano201014> there is?
[12:29] <lavacano201014> ill try that
[12:29] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: option - anon_root=/var/lib/mythtv
[12:29] <tazgodx> where does that go ScorpKing?
[12:30] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: in /etc/vsftpd.conf
[12:31] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: found it on http://linuxjournal.com/article/7520
[12:31] <tazgodx> SWEET!!! thanks :)
[12:31] <CPrgmSwR2> Hi, I can't get amarok to play mp3 files
[12:31] <CPrgmSwR2> it pops up with a button to install mp3 support but it then freezes up
[12:31] <ScorpKing> np
[12:32] <peters_> I'm trying to unrar an incomplete file. I'm using the command unrar e -kb <file> and it refuses to work. It extracts to about 50% then gives a CRC error, dispite the fact that I'm using the -kb switch.
[12:32] <ScorpKing> CprgmSwR2: sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs
[12:33] <soccermike1337> hello...
[12:34] <tobias_> hi there soccermike1337
[12:34] <soccermike1337> i have a question about avant window navigator
[12:34] <tobias_> and that question is ?
[12:34] <soccermike1337> im running ubuntu by the way, but they seem to ignore me over there :P
[12:34] <tobias_> ._.
[12:35] <soccermike1337> im sure they're just helping others.. anyway..
[12:35] <tazgodx> hmmm, now i have access to the correct folder, but i can't upload now :(
[12:35] <soccermike1337> ok.. well i followed the install guide for ubuntu and when i got to the part where it asks me to type in "make" into the terminal, it wont work
[12:35] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: one sec..
[12:36] <tobias_> it tells you just to type "make" ? oO
[12:36] <soccermike1337> mhm
[12:36] <soccermike1337> http://awn.wetpaint.com/page/UbuntuFeistyHowTo
[12:36] <soccermike1337> its the third line of step 4
[12:36] <CPrgmSwR2> ScorpKing: Thnx that worked