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[12:55] <imbrandon> mmm kernel hacking ...
[01:00] <_MMA_> imbrandon: Did you send off that .tar of the Ubuntu Studio website to joejaxx yet?
[01:01] <imbrandon> yea a while back
[01:04] <_MMA_> joejaxx: ? ^^^
[01:05] <joejaxx> ?
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[01:06] <joejaxx> just did a grep i do not have anything
[01:08] <_MMA_> joejaxx: "_MMA_: imbrandon: Did you send off that .tar of the Ubuntu Studio website to joejaxx yet?" - "imbrandon: yea a while back"
[01:09] <joejaxx> yeah
[01:09] <joejaxx> i just did a search
[01:09] <joejaxx> and it did not come up with anything
[01:10] <imbrandon> i'll stick it on ftp later you might have a lame mail server that dont take more than 10mb or something
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[01:24] <macd> is there someone available to assist me uploading a source package?, dput is giving me a GPG error
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[02:00] <Fujitsu> Morning all.
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[03:38] <blueyed> dh_installinit adds a "start" block to postinst and therefor the upgrade of postfix-policyd fails ("already running")
[03:38] <blueyed> I think a fix would be if dh_installinit would add a "restart" instead..?!
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[04:37] <Hobbsee> yay!
[04:37] <jdong> yay :)
[04:37] <jdong> finally some free time now that summer work is over
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[04:39] <TheMuso> Hey jdong, Hobbsee.
[04:39] <Hobbsee> hiya TheMuso
[04:39] <jdong> hi TheMuso
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[05:05] <white> !info zopf gutsy
[05:05] <ubotu> Package zopf does not exist in gutsy
[05:06] <white> !info zoph gutsy
[05:06] <ubotu> zoph: Web based digital image presentation and management system. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.6-2.1 (gutsy), package size 375 kB, installed size 1580 kB
[05:06] <white> someone might want to check out the 0.7.0.2-1 version
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[06:36] <jmg> hey all
[06:36] <jmg> what does window decorations these days? mine stopped
[06:36] <jmg> metacity doesnt bring them up
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[06:57] <Zombie> ClamAV is going ballistic.
[06:57] <Zombie> I hate this aspect of Clam.
[06:57] <ScottK> What does that mean?
[06:57] <ScottK> Zombie: Which clamav on which release?
[06:58] <Zombie> You know how when ClamAV goes 0.0.1 version up, the old version thows a fit?
[06:58] <Zombie> 0.91.1 on Fiesty/.
[06:58] <ScottK> Ah.
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[06:59] <ScottK> Did you build it yourself or get it from feisty-backports?
[06:59] <Zombie> feisty-backports.
[06:59] <Zombie> Btw.
[06:59] <Zombie> How comes Hugo?
[07:00] <ScottK> I need to get someone else to help me with it.
[07:00] <ScottK> I just uploaded a new clamav revision to Gutsy today.  I'll probably update feisty-backports this week.
[07:00] <Zombie> Let me see if I can't be helpful.
[07:00] <Zombie> Just a second.
[07:01] <ScottK> I'm actually getting very close to passing out and going to bed for the night.
[07:03] <Zombie> Let me get you these patches.
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[08:34] <d4rkmonkey> O_O
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[10:15] <soren> ScottK: I tried experimenting a bit with the different XS-Python-Versions to find out what sort of difference they made.. I couldn't figure it out, so now I've been staring at dh_pycentral and it seems that if a package has private modules (which system-config-samba has), it can only support one python version at a time.
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[10:30] <Lamego> hello
[10:30] <Lamego> anyone here uses schroot ?
[10:31] <Hobbsee> schroot?  most use pbuilder or sbuild
[10:31] <Fujitsu> sbuild uses schroot, Hobbsee.
[10:31] <Lamego> sbuild uses schroot, right ?
[10:31] <StevenK> sbuild using LVM using schroot
=== Fujitsu uses it.
[10:31] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: oh, duh.
=== StevenK does too.
=== Hobbsee uses pbuilder, cant you tell?
[10:31] <Fujitsu> Heh.
[10:31] <StevenK> Heh
[10:31] <Hobbsee> :)
[10:32] <Lamego> I am trying to use schroot with a file based schroot, and it is failing on the setup phase, and according to launchpad there is a bug report about it for, with 1 year age
[10:32] <Hobbsee> surely i shouldnt need to know all possible builders, and how they work?  :P
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[10:32] <Fujitsu> Lamego: Failing how?
[10:32] <Lamego> schroot is not a builder, it's a chroot utility
[10:32] <Fujitsu> And you should probably use LVM... it's a lot better..
[10:32] <Fujitsu> And works.
[10:32] <Lamego> I: Executing 20network setup-start ok
[10:32] <Lamego> `/etc/resolv.conf' -> `/var/lib/schroot/mount/feisty.i386-55bc8aaf-6ddc-419c-9b47-c6b38919b277/etc/resolv.conf'
[10:32] <Lamego> cp: cannot create regular file `/var/lib/schroot/mount/feisty.i386-55bc8aaf-6ddc-419c-9b47-c6b38919b277/etc/resolv.conf': No such file or directory
[10:32] <Fujitsu> I don't know anyone who uses the file-based method.
[10:33] <Lamego> well, for that I would need to have LVM, which is a bit late to decide now that have the entire system installed :P
[10:33] <Fujitsu> Ah.
[10:34] <StevenK> Lamego: If you have a partition that can be resized down, you can create an LVM parition just for schroot.
[10:34] <Lamego> ok, I will switch to LVM if there is no another solution, but maybe we should fix the schroot bug :P ?
[10:35] <Lamego> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/schroot/+bug/54867
[10:35] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 54867 in schroot "Fails when /etc/resolv.conf is set for dynamic updates" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[10:35] <Lamego> the problem is not related resolv.conf, I have disabled that script and it fails in the next
[10:35] <StevenK> Maybe we could fix it. Do you feel lucky? :-P
[10:35] <Lamego> there must be something wrong with the mount
[10:36] <Lamego> StevenK, well, schroot is MOTU maintained, I expect your best effort :)
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[10:37] <StevenK> What if I'm a core-dev? :-P
=== Fujitsu reverts StevenK to ubuntu-dev status.
[10:38] <Lamego> StevenK, if you are a core-dev and have no time for MOTU, resign :)
[10:39] <StevenK> Mmmm, no.
[10:39] <StevenK> Lamego: Right, I see why it fails. What that script should do is have cp follow symlinks.
[10:40] <Lamego> I didn't understood that comment on the bug report, which links are you refering to ?
[10:40] <StevenK> Lamego: When /etc/resolv.conf is dynamically updated, it's actually a symlink into /var/run.
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[10:40] <Lamego> ok, that bug report is not correct
[10:41] <Lamego> or maybe I am hitting another bug
[10:41] <StevenK> You don't get that error?
[10:41] <Lamego> I have a plain /etc/resolv.conf
[10:41] <Lamego> I get the same issue, during resolv.conf , but is not link related, there are no links on the copy
[10:41] <StevenK> And yet you can get cp: cannot create regular file ?
[10:41] <Lamego> my understand on how schroot works with file based is: 1 - extract, 2 runs some scripts
[10:42] <Lamego> well, that cp is part of the /etc/schroot/setup.d/30passwd
[10:42] <Lamego> ops
[10:42] <Lamego> /etc/schroot/setup.d/20network
[10:42] <StevenK> Yup.
[10:43] <StevenK> Lamego: Humour me, and change 'cp $VERBOSE' to 'cp -L $VERBOSE'
[10:43] <Lamego> I don't understand the reasoning (I don't see any links on this), but I will try
[10:44] <StevenK> Yes, hence the humour me. :-)
[10:44] <Lamego> nothing changes
[10:44] <Lamego> again, my /etc/resolv.conf is a plain text file, not a link
[10:45] <Lamego> I will need to debug during the setup
[10:45] <Lamego> there is something wrong with the chroot path
[10:47] <StevenK> Lamego: Can you run schroot with --debug and pastebin that?
[10:47] <Lamego> ok, but meanwhile i did some debug, and there is some wrong path wise
[10:47] <StevenK> Maybe the chroot path doesn't contain /etc?
[10:47] <Lamego> i have added
[10:47] <Lamego> ls ${CHROOT_PATH}
[10:47] <Lamego> the result was:
[10:48] <Lamego> dev  feisty.i386  home  proc  tmp
[10:48] <StevenK> Oh.
[10:48] <Lamego> ah wait
[10:48] <Lamego> it's me :P
[10:48] <StevenK> Heh
[10:48] <Lamego> the file contains an extra dir :D
[10:49] <Lamego> ty :)
[10:50] <lifeless> RAOF: so did the talk meet your expectations ?
[10:51] <Lamego> I am switching from dchroot to schroot, do you use sbuild/schroot very often ?
[10:52] <Lamego> 11s to get into the schroot, not bad
[10:52] <StevenK> Lamego: Yup, but I use it with LVM snapshots.
[10:53] <Lamego> ok, that should be much faster
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[10:54] <Lamego> next task, sbuild
[10:54] <StevenK> Lamego: schroot -u root -c gutsy 'false'  0.17s user 0.54s system 41% cpu 1.725 total
[10:54] <Lamego> ok, that's fast :)
[10:56] <Lamego> 5s now the that file is already in cache :P
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[11:01] <StevenK> Lamego: sbuild is fairly easy to get going.
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[11:13] <elmargol> Sorry for of topic. I search someone who has an apple tv or an iphone
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[11:30] <Lamego> lamego@lamego-desktop:~/getdeb/build$ sbuild
[11:30] <Lamego> mailto not set
[11:30] <Lamego> StevenK, it lacks some verbosity :P
[11:31] <Lamego> and I don't see a mailto option on the config
[11:31] <Lamego> I love software with default non working config :P
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[11:36] <Lutin> Lamego: according to the wiki: # Mail address where logs are sent to (mandatory, no default!)
[11:37] <Lamego> well, i found that  ~/.sbuildrc is mandatory
[11:37] <Lutin> I meant, the $mailto variable
[11:38] <Lamego> it is mandatory, at least the tool reported it is
[11:38] <Lamego> even if it is set to ''
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[11:42] <Lamego> hum, it is not searching my schroot
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[11:45] <Lamego> StevenK, how do you specify the schroot to be used on sbuild ?
[11:47] <StevenK> Lamego: $chroot_mode = "schroot"; in ~/.sbuildrc
[11:48] <Lamego> ok, thanks, now it's running :)
[11:48] <Lamego> Error in tempfile() using /var/lib/schroot/mount/feisty.i386-57ed7716-3785-466f-a40f-fdf1c54039b5//var/lib/sbuild/apt.conf.XXXXXX: Parent directory (/var/lib/schroot/mount/feisty.i386-57ed7716-3785-466f-a40f-fdf1c54039b5//var/lib/sbuild/) is not a directory at /usr/share/perl5/Sbuild/Chroot.pm line 161
[11:48] <Lamego> ufff
[11:49] <jeromeg> hello
[11:49] <StevenK> Looks like /var/lib/sbuild needs to exist inside the chroot.
[11:49] <jeromeg> could someone of motu-uvf have a look at bug 134730 , I need a second ack
[11:49] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 134730 in dvgrab "[UVFe] Please sync dvgrab 3.0-1 (universe) from debian (unstable)" [Wishlist,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134730
[11:49] <jeromeg> thx
[11:50] <Lamego> uff, it does not
[11:51] <Lamego> why do I need an sbuild dir inside what is expected to be a clean base environment :P ?
[11:55] <StevenK> Lamego: So sbuild can use it? :-)
[11:56] <Lamego> well, the documentation does not mention that the chrooted environment must have the sbuild package installed
[11:57] <Lamego> anyway, let me install it
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[12:02] <Lamego> hum, does the building use requires root privileges on the schrooted environment ?
[12:03] <StevenK> Not usually.
[12:03] <Lamego> feisty.i386-674e4058-009d-42d5-bd8f-3e71764b4d3d//var/lib/sbuild/) is not writable
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[12:22] <Lamego> sbuild -v -d feisty.i386 cheese_0.2.3-1~getdeb1.dsc
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[12:23] <Lamego> apt-cache returned no information about cheese source
[12:23] <Lamego> how to I tell sbuild to use the local files ?
[12:33] <Lamego> I am about to give up to pbuilder
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[01:00] <Fujitsu> Lamego: Make sure that your ~ (or whereever you have the source package) is accessible in the chroot.
[01:04] <Lamego> well, I found i can't use pathes for the *.dsc file
[01:04] <Lamego> paths
[01:05] <Lamego> not it fails to resolve the build dependencies
[01:05] <Lamego> Checking for source dependency conflicts...
[01:05] <Lamego> Password:
[01:05] <Lamego> W: Time is running out...
[01:05] <Lamego> this password prompt is a bit strange
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[01:07] <Fujitsu>  /win 4
[01:07] <Fujitsu> Oops.
[01:07] <Lamego> the "Checking for source dependency conflicts" is getting stuck in a sudo (I guess)
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[01:12] <Lamego> debug shows it's prompting for the sudo passwd on "Installing positive dependencies:"
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[01:13] <Lamego> ok, this means, i will need to run the build with root privileges, otherwise sbuild will not be able to install the dependencies
[01:13] <Lamego> or i will need to setup sudo inside the chroot to not ask for the password
[01:13] <Lamego> StevenK, have you actually build packages with sbuild with a regular user ?
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[01:16] <Fujitsu> s/'//
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[01:16] <Lamego> Fujitsu, and that user, does not have root-users privileges on the schroot ?
[01:16] <Fujitsu> I'm in the sbuild group, I think, but it's been a while since I set it up.
[01:16] <Lamego> how does a regular user installs the build dependencies on the chroot ? That seems to be my issue now
[01:17] <Fujitsu> sbuild runs it as root.
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[01:19] <Lamego> can you check: grep "root" /etc/schroot/schroot.conf  | grep -v "^#"
[01:20] <Lamego> hum, there is a source-root-users option
[01:22] <StevenK> Lamego: If you're in the sbuild group, you should be fine.
[01:22] <Lamego> well, unless it did not, I had to add my user to the root-users: option
[01:23] <StevenK> In schroot.conf?
[01:23] <Lamego> yes
[01:23] <Lamego> otherwise it would prompt for the password when installing the depends
[01:23] <StevenK> % grep root-users /etc/schroot/schroot.conf
[01:23] <StevenK> zsh: exit 1     grep root-users /etc/schroot/schroot.conf
[01:23] <Lamego> and your root-group ?
[01:23] <StevenK> root-groups=root,sbuild,admin
[01:24] <Lamego> ahh
[01:24] <Lamego> I didn't had sbuild on the root-groups
[01:25] <Lamego> it is installing the depends now
[01:25] <StevenK> Good start. :-)
[01:25] <Lamego> hum, I will need to setup an apt proxy
[01:25] <StevenK> Lamego: I went one step further, and have a local mirror.
[01:26] <Lamego> Source-dependencies not satisfied; skipping cheese
[01:26] <Lamego> GRGRGRGRGRRGGR
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[01:26] <Lamego> what is the size of the universe mirror ?
[01:26] <Lamego> debconf: delaying package configuration, since apt-utils is not installed
[01:26] <Lamego> Fetched 49.4MB in 51s (962kB/s)
[01:26] <Lamego> dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `Debian-exim' in statoverride file
[01:26] <Lamego> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[01:26] <Lamego> apt-get failed.
[01:26] <StevenK> I'm mirroring feisty and gutsy, i386 and amd64 and it's 47Gb
[01:27] <Lamego> wtf
[01:27] <StevenK> Now that's a chroot problem.
[01:28] <StevenK> The mirror at work is dapper, edgy, and feisty, i386 and amd64, and is 63Gb
[01:28] <Fujitsu> No Gutsy? Boring.
[01:28] <StevenK> Don't need it at work.
[01:29] <Lamego> well, time to eat, I am seeing I will take the entire day to setup an sbuild environment :P
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[01:57] <sits> Is Gutsy's gnome-power-manager broken with regard to dbus?
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[02:06] <white> ajmitch: hi, time for a phpgroupware upload? :)
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[02:20] <StevenK> white: Considering it's now 0020 over there, I doubt it. :-)
[02:21] <Lamego> that exim group error should be related to the /etc/group replacement from the schroot script, right ?
[02:23] <white> StevenK: hmm two hours of differences between melbourne and NZ? wow
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[02:35] <Lamego> any suggestion for an apt cache/proxy ?
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[03:59] <\sh> moins
[04:00] <\sh> guys, has anyone some problems with Xorg, ati foss driver and the keyboard setup? on my local desktop there is nothing like it was before the update yesterday I think
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[04:01] <Q-FUNK> hoora: you really have a way with cheering up estonains with your arrival :)
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[04:12] <siretart> \sh_away: can you have a look after your jabber server? it seems offline
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[04:51] <geser> lucas: should fixed packages from your rebuild test be removed from the wiki page or only commented that they are done?
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[05:08] <DktrKranz> geser, what about formatting that page using a table? it could be easier to read and not too complicated using some regex
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[05:11] <leip> Alright, so I downloaded some source and set out to turn it into an ubuntu/debian package
[05:11] <bddebian> Heya
[05:11] <leip> Lucky for me it already had a "debian" folder with a build script and everything
[05:12] <leip> The problem is, when I build it there is a complaint about it being the wrong version,  and it does, in fact, name the deb file with an older version
[05:12] <StevenK> The version number is in debian/changelog
[05:12] <leip> I looked at the control file to find that there isn't a Version...
[05:13] <bddebian> And the upstream tarball shouldn't include a /debian dir :-)
[05:13] <leip> Oh...
[05:13] <bddebian> Heya StevenK
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[05:16] <bddebian> Stupid @#$% audacious-plugins
[05:17] <leip> Thank you for the support, I realy appreciate it
[05:17] <leip> This has been an interesting experience
[05:17] <leip> The funny part is I set out to learn how to package hours before I realized it already had everything ready
[05:18] <geser> Hi bddebian
[05:18] <bddebian> Heya geser
[05:20] <bddebian> Ah ha!  POS, needs libbinio to build the adplug plugin
[05:20] <bddebian> I shouldn't have an issue b-ding on a universe package for a multiverse package should I ?
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[05:20] <Fujitsu> bddebian: multiverse can b-d on anything.
[05:21] <bddebian> That's what I thought.  What I was a little more concerned about was dfsg I guess
[05:31] <ScottK> soren: That doesn't seem right to me, but I haven't looked in detail.  Does python-support have the same limitation?
[05:36] <StevenK> ScottK: Mind looking at bug 136792, just for a little more weight?
[05:36] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 136792 in ubuntu "NPFU exception for virtualbox" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136792
[05:38] <ScottK> StevenK: If you want.  It's already got 2 acks.
[05:38] <StevenK> ScottK: My ack counts? Even in that case?
[05:39] <ScottK> I would guess so.  It's like on REVU a MOTU uploading to REVU counts as one of the advocates for the package.
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[05:40] <StevenK> ScottK: Fairy nuff
[05:41] <bddebian> FAIRIES!!???
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[05:43] <leip> I'm getting " badly formatted trailer line" on line 5, but I can't figure out what's wrong. http://www.pastebin.ca/678992
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[05:44] <POX_> leip: space missing before "Sun" ?
[05:44] <POX_> why don't you use dch?
[05:44] <geser> leip: there should be two spaces between > and Sun
[05:45] <leip> Wow, that's picky
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[05:45] <leip> POX_: Didn't know about it
[05:46] <POX_> leip: start from `man dch` - it has some nice options
[05:46] <ScottK> Debian changelog needs to be machine parsed, so it has to be picky.
[05:49] <Amaranth> leip: always use dch :)
[05:50] <ScottK> StevenK: FWIW I marked it confirmed/wishlist.
[05:53] <POX_> leip: BTW, you want to use ~RC instead of -RC in version
[05:54] <POX_> or even ~RC2-1
[05:54] <POX_> leip: dpkg --compare-versions 2.6.0-RC2 '>' 2.6.0-1 && echo true || echo false
[06:01] <leip> Ah
[06:01] <leip> Whooops
[06:01] <leip> I already built the package
[06:01] <leip> Is there a way to change it without rebuilding?
[06:02] <bddebian> Nope.  "Fun" isn't it? :-)
[06:02] <ScottK> bddebian: I'd imagine you got the first two letter right.
[06:02] <bddebian> Heh
[06:02] <soren> ScottK: Dunno.
[06:02] <POX_> hehe, yeah, but it's way harder than rebuilding :--P
[06:03] <soren> ScottK: You can check /usr/bin/dh_pycentral around line 404.
[06:03] <soren> ScottK: It sounds quite deliberate.
[06:05] <ScottK> soren: I believe you.  I've always used pysupport on new packages only because that's what I started with.
[06:06] <soren> ScottK: Me too, but doko was giving me a hard time about it at some point, and I switched :)
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[06:06] <ScottK> Understand.
[06:06] <soren> ScottK: I was weak and had little to no clue about python packaging :)
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[06:14] <doko> soren: I didn't give you a hard time yet ...
[06:14] <soren> doko: Heh.. :)
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[06:17] <wBryce> Should oprofile work in feisty without requiring a kernel rebuild?
[06:19] <soren> doko: Well, you made it clear that python-central was the tool I was supposed to use :)
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[06:21] <bddebian> soren: He is just biased ;-)
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[06:21] <soren> bddebian: Possibly :)
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[06:33] <bddebian> Hrm, what to do about freemind
[06:38] <soren> Didn't there used to be a stack of presentions on the wiki about Ubuntu development?
[06:40] <bddebian> doko: Are there any other Java gods around to bother besides you?
[06:40] <leip> bddebian: Did I read "Java?"
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[06:40] <bddebian> leip: You know Java?
[06:41] <leip> I'm not so much a "god," but I've been paid to program in it for the last three years...
[06:41] <leip> bddebian: What's the problem?
[06:42] <bddebian> leip: Well it's really more of a packaging issue.  Freemind fails to build with blackdown java.  I can get it to build with gcj but part of the bug report is also complaining about not installing because of having to accept the EULA with j2re1.4
[06:42] <leip> One moment, need to throw in a load of laundy, then I'll be right back
[06:44] <ScottK> bddebian: man-di knows about Java (He's a DD that hangs out here).
[06:46] <leip> Back
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[06:50] <leip> bddebian: Strange... Why not use one of the new/free jdks?
[06:50] <leip> bddebian: from sun
[06:50] <bddebian> Sun has a free sdk?
[06:51] <bddebian> Is there also a free runtime and vm? :-)
[06:51] <bddebian> I considered trying kaffe but...
[06:51] <leip> Everything after 1.5 I believe
[06:51] <leip> "On 17 November 2006, Sun announced that it would be released under the GNU General Public License (GPL), thus making it free software."
[06:52] <bddebian> Well apparently freemind won't support 1.5 until 0.8.0 is available.
[06:52] <leip> bddebian: If you're using ubuntu just apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[06:53] <leip> Oh...
[06:53] <leip> Well it's a simple fix, you could probably update it yourself
[06:53] <leip> Oh!
[06:53] <leip> You can compile it with the java6 using a compatability level of 1.4
[06:53] <leip> I forgot you could do that...
[06:54] <bddebian> Hmm, according to the site, 0.8.0 was release in 2005..
[06:54] <leip> bddebian: Well then grab that
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[06:55] <leip> Actually, I think there's a debian package available
[06:55] <bddebian> Too late for new upstreams :-(
[06:55] <bddebian> Debian is still 0.7.1-6
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[06:56] <leip> http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=freemind&filename=freemind-bin-max-0_8_0.zip&use_mirror=internap
[06:56] <leip> That'll bring you do the binaries for "any operating system"
[06:57] <leip> hmmm "but notice, that version 0.8.0 of FreeMind doesn't work properly with Java 6.0!"
[06:57] <leip> Still you can do the back build deally
[06:57] <bddebian> Yeah, I saw that
[06:58] <leip> the freemind deb is 0.8.0-1
[06:58] <leip> bddebian: Why not use that?
[06:58] <leip> bddebian: and update it to your needs
[06:58] <leip> bddebian: Or get the FreeMind 0.9.0 beta 12
[06:59] <leip> beta /12/
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[07:02] <bddebian> Because I don't care enough about it to work through UVFe ;-)
[07:03] <bddebian> And now it's shower time :-)
[07:07] <leip> What's UVFe?
[07:07] <geser> Upstream Version Freeze Exception
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[07:11] <leip> Wow, perhaps I should submit the package I just built... it's 1.6, the one in feisty is 1.3
[07:11] <leip> The language has changed since then
[07:11] <leip> Significantly
[07:11] <leip> *2.3 *2.6
[07:12] <leip> (scala)
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[07:37] <leip> Dear god! Gutsy is only at 2.3 for scala
[07:37] <leip> I must change this... is it too late? How do I even begin?
[07:38] <leip> There's a 2.5 deb already written for debian that works just fine with ubuntu
[07:38] <pygi> leip, afaik, it is too late
[07:38] <leip> and I just finished 1 2.6.0~RC2
[07:38] <leip> :-(
[07:38] <leip> What about HH?
[07:38] <leip> Horny Hardon, or whatever it's called
[07:38] <bddebian> Heh
[07:39] <leip> I've read it reffered to like that so many times it's 1) not funny any more and 2) replacing the actual name in my memory
[07:39] <leip> Heroic Heron?
[07:39] <leip> Hardy!
[07:39] <leip> So is it too late to try to get a deb into Hardy Heron?
[07:40] <bddebian> No, Hardy isn't even open yet
[07:40] <pygi> that isn't even bootstraped yet
[07:41] <leip> I want to start getting more involved with Ubuntu, packaging turned out to be pretty easy
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[09:16] <lucas> geser: as you want
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[10:08] <ScottK> StevenK: It is VERY nice to have a requestsync script that I can actually use.  Thanks again.
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[10:10] <Zeograd> hi all
[10:12] <ScottK> Hello
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[10:17] <Lamego> new issues with sbuild
[10:18] <Lamego> chmod: cannot access `/build/build/glob2-0.9.1/./configure': No such file or dir
[10:18] <blueyed> Hi.
[10:18] <blueyed> Is there a script to automatically adjust debian/control according to the DebianMaintainerField spec?
[10:18] <Lamego> any ideas why is the /home piece of the path getting void ?
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[10:34] <gustavold> hi all, how can I set the location where the core dump will be generated?
[10:38] <imbrandon> oh jesus, is there a good country to move me and my family to? fuckin US needs a revolution
[10:38] <imbrandon> i'm done with this shit
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[10:42] <ajmitch> morning
[10:45] <norsetto> ajmitch: morning
[10:45] <imbrandon> bleh
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[10:47] <ajmitch> imbrandon: I agree, it's monday morning here
[10:47] <ajmitch> and I really don't feel like being at work :)
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[10:47] <imbrandon> i just learned we have navy stike carriers outside of iran and looking at a 3 day invasion serouisly, i'm moving to iceland
[10:48] <ajmitch> that's fun
[10:48] <ajmitch> on what pretext would the US invade this time?
[10:48] <ajmitch> iran saying bad words?
[10:48] <imbrandon> to stop a nuclear program
[10:48] <ajmitch> aha
[10:48] <imbrandon> just about the same
[10:48] <ajmitch> so why don't they invade china & russia as well? :)
[10:49] <imbrandon> no idea, ww2 == germany blitz, ww3 == usa blitz
[10:49] <imbrandon> i swear we need a cival war/revolution
[10:49] <imbrandon> civil*
[10:50] <norsetto> since when is a war civil?
[10:51] <imbrandon> when its to stop a fucking tyrant
[10:51] <imbrandon> err usa president
[10:52] <norsetto> yeah, well, one tyrant is worth another (at leat you change them every 8 years or so)
[10:53] <imbrandon> well if we keep invading countrys the next 4 year election wont come
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[11:34] <soren> StevenK: Uh, VirtualBox? Bring it!
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[11:36] <ajmitch> hello soren
[11:37] <soren> hi, ajmitch.
[11:38] <Lamego> a virtualbox package ?
[11:38] <soren> bug 136792
[11:38] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 136792 in ubuntu "NPFU exception for virtualbox" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136792
[11:38] <soren> \o/
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[11:40] <soren> StevenK: I've given Mithrandir a heads up about VirtualBox, so just go ahead an upload it.
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[11:50] <joejaxx> virtualbox is in debian main already :)
[11:51] <ajmitch> yes, and you'll see that the bug refers to that
[11:51] <ajmitch> StevenK just did one small fix
[11:52] <joejaxx> :)
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[11:59] <jrib> soren: is 1.4.0 being uploaded instead of 1.5.0 for virtualbox?
[12:00] <soren> jrib: Yes.
[12:01] <jrib> soren: I ask because X failed to load after installing guest additions in gutsy because of some virtualbox bug in 1.4.0.  I needed to either workaround by adding xinerama option to xorg.conf or upgrade to 1.5.0
[12:01] <soren> jrib: ..well it looks like an svn version.
[12:02] <soren> jrib: I don't know how close it is to 1.5.0.
[12:02] <jrib> ah, then maybe it has the fix included
[12:02] <jrib> gusty as the guest btw
[12:03] <soren> jrib: 1.5.0 just came out, didn't it? Like hours ago?
[12:04] <jrib> yeah, recently
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