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rocketsWhat update manager does xubuntu come with01:11
rocketsregular update-manager?01:11
The-Kernelyeah01:12
rocketscool01:17
rocketsGod damn it I don't need punjabi fonts.01:21
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Ben_Csis vmware best prog for virtualising or is there a better one?01:26
Ben_Csoh vmware isn't free01:27
Ben_Cswhat's free?01:27
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retardogreetings,01:31
malaramehello01:31
retardoi have a little printer question01:32
retardowill my brother DCP-115 work with xubuntu ?01:33
retardo??01:37
malaramehave you looked at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=488016&highlight=dcp-11501:38
malaramei don't know if that'll work on xubuntu or not01:38
retardoi'll have a look.. thanks01:41
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brenton_I'm using an Nividia riva 128 chip (very old) and it looks like my install is using software rendering (direct rendering is off). Would getting direct rendering on improve my performance when i'm in X?01:42
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spazhey01:43
spazi'm trying to remove the top panel in xfce (I use gutsy)01:43
spazbut every time i try, it segfaults01:43
malaramebrenton_: i'm not sure, but i'd say just try it and see01:43
spazboth panels disappear01:43
spazand then i have to restart it by pressing alt-f2 and typing xfce4-panel01:44
spazany ideas how to get rid of it another way then what i've been doing?01:44
spaz(basically the customize panel option in the menu you get from right clicking the panel)01:44
brenton_malarame, my main problem is i can't seem to find a driver for it. I tried the restricted drivers, but it doesn't detect. The card is from 1998, and the machine is 400mhz, so I was hoping i might get a bit better desktop performance, but getting a driver for the card on here looks like it's going to be a bit of work01:46
brenton_the only driver i can find that specifically mentions it is for suse linux01:47
malaramehmm01:47
malaramei don't know then01:47
xorkspaz: i heard about that bug in gutsy, i don't think it's been resolved yet01:47
spaz:-(01:47
xork:(01:48
malaramesomeone who knows more than me will have to help you out01:48
xorkspaz: try01:50
spazxork, try what?01:50
spazto help you?01:50
spazmy hardware isn't as aincent as yours, though it is quite old01:50
xorkspaz: try looking in ~/.config/xfce4/panel/panels.xml01:50
spazi haven't had graphics card problems though01:50
spazoh01:50
spazhmm01:50
xorki only have one panel listed there01:52
xorkso if you have two, could try removing one01:52
xorkbackup first ;)01:52
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spazthanks xork :-)01:53
xorknp01:54
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xorkit's the way to go ;)01:54
spazindeed01:54
spazKDE started getting too bloated for my tastes01:54
spazmy load averages were around 10 seconds :-s01:54
malaramei didn't like gnome or kde when i tried them01:54
spazi liked KDE, but it seemed to look uglier over time (and of course, the aformentioned heaviness)01:55
malarameit is very ugly01:55
Pumpernickelbrenton_: Older nVidia cards like the Rivas require the nvidia-glx-legacy driver.01:55
spazyou should see my old desktop :-s01:55
spazi liked it at first, it got old fast though01:55
malarameand i khate khow kthey kname kthings01:56
spazall those krappy k puns?01:56
malarameit kpisses me off01:56
spazlol01:56
brenton_Pumpernickel, what does it take to install that? And would i get a performance bump in normal computing from it?01:56
malaramewhen you're scrolling through a list of programs to find one, i personally like to be able to sort things alphabetically01:56
malarameit sorta defeats the whole purpose to have everything start with one letter01:57
PumpernickelUnlikely, for CPU bound things.  You may notice an increase in interface responsiveness.01:57
brenton_Yeah, the main thing that's killing me now is a sluggish interface01:57
malaramei have sluggish interface problems too, my xorg process takes up a ton of my processor whenever i do anything01:57
spazO_o01:58
spazouch01:58
malarameespecially moving or resizing windows or scrolling windows01:58
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malarameseriously, xorg jumps to 100% cpu and everything slows to a crawl01:58
brenton_yeah, i'm pretty much looking for anything that can speed that up. xgears pukes on this thing, which  is sad01:58
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brenton_Pumpernickel, do you know where i could download this driver?02:00
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Pumpernickel!info nvidia-glx-legacy02:00
ubotunvidia-glx-legacy: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'legacy' driver. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.7184+2.6.20.5-16.29 (feisty), package size 2992 kB, installed size 9780 kB02:00
brenton_thanks02:00
xorkdumb q: how do you move out of a full-screen app? alt-tab works with full screen wine applications, but not native ones02:01
spazlol02:05
spazi can see why they call him retardo ;-)02:05
spazj/k of course02:05
brenton_Pumpernickel, now that i've installed, and run  "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable", do I just restart to get it working?02:08
brenton_thanks everybody, i'm going to try a restart02:13
alnoktawhy when i delete an html file, the accompanying folder isn't deleted?02:28
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kalikiana_Why when you delete an image, another image with a similar name isn't deleted?02:33
kalikiana_alnokta, You'Re asking weird questions.02:33
kalikiana_If you want a file to be removed, so do it.02:33
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alnokta;) .. when you save an html page with images and css and all..it creates a folder along with it..the logical thing is to get that folder deleted when the page is deleted02:34
kalikiana_This sounds logical in that case - provided you expect it to happen. I would not like that to happen personally.02:36
kalikiana_I don't consider my computer intelligent enough to read my mind.02:37
PumpernickelIf it were represented as a single archive, maybe.  Since it isn't, it would break consistency with how the rest of the filesystem is handled.02:46
alnoktaokay, just something windows does and i considered as a convenience ..02:49
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spazheyloo03:56
spazhow do i lock xfce's session?03:56
spazand please be quick, i have to use the bathroom and there are annoying kids who will mess with everything while i'm out :-x03:57
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cellofellowdarnit. Where is cheeseboy when you need him?04:15
spazcellofellow, do you know how to lock Xfce's session?04:18
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cellofellowspaz: use xscreensaver04:20
spazhmm04:21
cellofellowI think ctrl+alt+del is bound to xflock4, which by default uses xscreensaver.04:21
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spazxflock4 is exactly what i was looking for04:22
spazthanks04:22
spazbrb04:22
cellofellowspaz: add to the panel and Action Button, and in the Properties of that button, choose Lock instead of Quit. Put it next to the Quit button.04:22
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spazthanks cellofellow :-)04:31
cellofellow:D04:31
cellofellowNo problemo.04:31
spazyou saved my session (and my underwear :-P)04:32
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erz-hi all :)04:36
erz-i want to move to xfce, i have kubuntu edgy. fresh install. what i have to do ?04:36
cellofellowinstall xubuntu-desktop04:37
cellofellowand then, if you want to get rid of KDE, remove kubuntu-desktop and all its dependancies.04:38
erz-thx, with remove kubuntu-desktop ?04:40
alnoktais there a program that can save me from entering the password everytime?04:44
riciyou can enable autologin04:57
ricisystem | login window04:57
alnoktano i mean when starting something like services, synaptic etc.04:58
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foxrayisn't there supposed to be transparency abilities on the xfce toolbars in xubuntu?05:01
xorkyou have to turn on compositing05:07
foxrayah05:07
xorksettings/window manager tweaks05:07
foxrayit takes some getting use to, i just migrated from fluxbox05:07
xork*nod*05:22
xorkit's good stuff, though :)05:22
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erz-lol i go in 1280x1024 and nothing apperas on the screen05:38
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cellofel1owhi05:49
cellofel1owbrb05:53
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ArmadillioHOLY CRAP GUYS I FUCKED UP MY STUFF06:09
ArmadillioAnyone ever have panel problems before?06:09
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Armadillio...anyone?06:17
ArmadillioMy top panel won't autohide (I think because of Beryl) anymore, and I'm afraid if I turn off my box and back on my panels will freeze again and I won't be able to access anything.06:18
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Armadilliosorry guys my client had to reset06:22
Armadillioany answers? I'm afraid06:22
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Armadilliooh guys someone has to be here06:31
Armadillio:(06:39
xorkyou can always hit alt-f206:40
xorkand run xfce4-panel06:41
xorkif you don't have any panels06:41
xorkand panel config file is located at ~/.config/xfce4/panel/panels.xml06:42
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divrajust updated from dapper to edgy, I'm missing the "control bar" at the top of the screen.  Any Idea's?06:47
Armadilliocontrol bar? could you explain that...? i've probably never used it, unless you mean the top panel.06:49
divrayeah06:49
divrawith the application menu and the system menu06:50
Armadillioi'm not sure. i'm having panel troubles myself, but no one else apparently wants to talk06:50
Armadillioyou should try going to the bottom panel and right clicking it and pressing "customize panel"06:50
divraI have no bottom panel either06:51
divraI have the four desktops with icons but no menus06:51
Armadillio...how did you manage to get on an irc client then?06:51
Armadillioare they just blank bars?06:51
divraI'm on my windows machine06:51
divraNo, there is nothing06:52
Armadillioso your not on Xubuntu?06:52
Armadillioalright, forget that.06:52
xorkhit alt-f206:52
Armadillioyour best chance would be to just get a new edgy .iso and give it a fresh install with edgy, no upgrading through the net.06:52
divraok, I have the four terminal screens, f1 ~ f406:52
xorkrun xfce-panel06:53
xorkif your panels are not configured right06:53
xorkedit ~/.config/xfce4/panel/panels.xml06:53
Armadillioit told me there was no such document or program...06:53
xorker sorry run xfce4-panel06:53
Armadilliostill failed06:54
Armadilliowait nvm06:54
Armadillioaugh, it still won't autohide06:54
xorkyou can set autohide in panels.xml06:54
xorkif you're running beryl i have noidea06:54
xorkberyl screws with that stuff06:55
xorkuse xfce4's compositing instead ;)06:55
divraI get a bash no run found06:55
divraerror06:55
xorkdon't type "run xfce4-panel:"06:56
xorkjust "xfce4-panel"06:56
divraoh, duh06:56
Armadilliothats what i did06:56
divranot found06:56
xorkhm, should be06:57
xorkyou can always sudo apt-get install xfce4-panel, then try again ;)06:57
Armadillioit says i already have it...06:59
xorkthat's for divra06:59
xorkyou already have your panels running, right?06:59
Armadillioyes... but they've decided to stop autohiding06:59
xorkbut you're running beryl?06:59
Armadillioi was, but I can switch to the default if needed07:00
xorktry that07:00
Armadilliook, switched, here i go...07:00
Armadillionope, it still does it07:00
Armadilliobleh. does xfce seem to break to often for other people as well?07:02
xorki've never had it breka07:02
Armadillioi'm afraid that if I shut down my box and turn it back on, my panels will disapeer and I won't remember the commands07:02
Armadilliolikew last time07:02
divraok07:07
divraThis is what I got07:07
divraGke-Warning Can't open displa07:07
divradisplay07:07
Armadilliowe're screwed, lets face it07:09
divrano07:09
divranever screwed07:09
divrathe machine is working great07:10
xorkdivra: i don't know what to tell you, never had xfce4-panel not start for me07:10
divrait's just missing the menu07:10
xorkdivra: #ubuntu is much more active if nobody else here is alive07:10
divraI'm just going to try going from edgy to feisty07:12
divramaybe something that got missed in the edgy install will get replaced with feisty07:13
divra??07:13
Armadilliogood luck, gods speed07:13
divrahow do I remove xfce4-panel?07:28
divramost everything I'm doing now says Gtk-Warning07:29
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DuClareis there an xfce application with which I can change UI settings for kde applications.. (font size)09:14
alnokt0aDuClare, there is User interface settings, but it will change globally09:17
DuClareI tried the UI settings, it seems like it worked for gnome apps09:17
DuClarebut kde apps still have those blinding huge fonts09:17
alnokt0ayes i know how you feel :)09:18
alnokt0ai'm on  600x800 ;)09:18
DuClareI can't understand why the default fonts are so gigantic. :)09:18
DuClareit actually looks very messy09:18
DuClarewhen the text is too thick09:18
alnokt0anow i'm using dejavu sans .. 8 .. little hard to read .. but better09:21
DuClaresans 6 here09:21
DuClare7 on the xubuntu machine I think09:21
DuClare(I installed xubuntu for my sister)09:22
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DuClarethe funny thing is, the font selector dialog doesn't have sizes below 8 in the list09:22
DuClarebut you can just type in the number manually09:23
DuClareand it works just fine09:23
DuClare:)09:23
alnokt0areally .. nice09:29
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alnokt0awhen postfix receives messages..how can i read them?09:40
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TheSheepDuClare: that's on purpose -- you are not supposed to be using fonts smaller than 9pt normally09:43
TheSheepDuClare: books normally use 12pt, pocket books -- 10pt09:44
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DuClarefor whatever reason, the fonts are just too big for me when it's 9 or so09:45
TheSheepDuClare: set your dpi correctly09:45
TheSheepDuClare: for example, set your monitor physical dimensions in xorg.conf09:45
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carlHi, I've got a majoro problemo over here.. A couple of days ago I decided to install the xubuntu-desktop metapackage from the repos, but after reboot gnome just throws a lot of errors about trying to change non-writable files, and I also get the same with gnome-based programs from xfce. Xfce works alright, but I just wanted to play a little with it, not get stuck with it :s Can anyone help me to get my system back on track again?10:58
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TheSheepcarl: I doubt it's because of the xubuntu-desktop package11:02
TheSheepcarl: did you play with rights to your home directory?11:02
carlTheSheep: nope11:04
carlall I did was to install xubuntu-desktop and reboot11:04
TheSheepcarl: can you type 'dmesg | grep remount' in the terminal?11:04
carlgives nought11:05
TheSheepcarl: 'mount' ?11:05
carl[   28.087889]  EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.11:06
carl[   39.402825]  EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.11:06
TheSheepcarl: no, 'mount | grep home'11:07
carlaha11:07
carl/dev/hdb2 on /home type ext3 (rw)11:08
TheSheepok, 'ls -ld ~'?11:08
carldrwxr-xr-x 86 carl carl 16384 2007-09-02 10:49 /home/carl11:09
TheSheepcarl: 'df | grep home'?11:09
carl/dev/hdb2            201913448  55334516 136322236  29% /home11:10
TheSheepcarl: do you have any free space on the / ?11:10
TheSheepcarl: check with df11:11
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carl?11:11
TheSheepcarl: type 'df' in the terminal and see if it says '100%' next to /11:11
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carl/dev/hdb1             36527156   5295028  29376624  16% /11:12
carlso, no11:12
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TheSheepcarl: does it say which files are non-writable?11:12
carlnope11:12
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carlhang on, I'll send you a screenshot of one I got from xchat in xfce, it's the same kind of error11:13
filthpigTheSheep: did you get the request?11:15
filthpiggone thinking? :)11:16
TheSheepfilthpig: DCC can't connect to 88.89.13.98 port 102611:17
filthpigo011:18
filthpighmf11:18
TheSheepfilthpig: just upload it on imageshack or something11:18
filthpigaight, 2 secs11:18
filthpighttp://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=error2hi4.jpg11:20
TheSheepfilthpig: that's not about files, it's about gconf11:22
filthpigk11:23
TheSheepfilthpig: unfotunately I'm not familiar with the permission system of gconf11:23
TheSheepfilthpig: it's like windows registry, only xml :/11:23
TheSheepfilthpig: gnome's invention11:23
filthpigyep11:23
TheSheepfilthpig: you're on gutsy?11:24
filthpigfeisty11:24
filthpigcould fine the iso for gutsy, lol11:25
filthpigerh11:25
filthpigcouldn't find*11:25
TheSheepfilthpig: it's not released yet11:25
filthpignot some alpha/beta/rc either?11:25
TheSheepfilthpig: yes, there is tribe5 iso, I believe, on the testing page11:26
filthpigok, I'll check it out some time.. Got too much on my hands this week :/11:27
filthpigit'll be an october release, right?11:27
TheSheepfilthpig: gconf shouldn't break after installing xubuntu :/11:27
TheSheepfilthpig: yes11:27
filthpigTheSheep: I know11:28
filthpighm11:28
TheSheepfilthpig: it never happened to me, and I did it several times11:28
filthpigbut I suddenly came to think of something11:28
TheSheepfilthpig: in feisty too11:28
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filthpiggconf didn't let me edit the button positions in the window decoartion (close, maximize, minimize), so some guy told me to try a command11:30
filthpigI'll see if I can access my log from xchat and see what it was11:30
filthpigI think I've rebooted after he gave me that command without any probs, but I've got to check it anyway11:30
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filthpigcan't find the log o011:37
filthpigdang, xchat isn't logging by default11:38
filthpigso no log11:39
filthpigbut from what I remember it was something with chmod ... 60011:39
filthpigit was supposed to give me writing permits for gconf11:40
filthpigTheSheep: might that have had anything to do with it?11:40
TheSheepfilthpig: probably11:45
filthpigbbiab11:52
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carlahoy TheSheep, I found the command :) chmod -R 600 ~/.gconf/12:20
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FilthpigTheSheep: here are all my errors in all their glory ;) http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gnomerror2pa8.jpg12:24
TheSheepFilthpig: chmod -R 700 ~/.gconf/12:27
Filthpigwith or without sudo?12:28
TheSheepFilthpig: without12:29
TheSheepFilthpig: doesn't matter12:29
Filthpigokay12:29
TheSheepFilthpig: the file should be owned by you anyways12:29
TheSheeps12:29
Filthpigi'll try rebooting, then12:29
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carland re :)12:33
filthpignow in gnome :D12:33
filthpigthanks a million, TheSheep :D12:33
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DuClaredoes anybody know how to fix this error (while trying to start opera): opera: Module initialization failure. (-2036) ...03:32
DuClareworks fine if run as root :o03:32
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admin__Hi03:58
admin__New to this all03:58
admin__Phoenix Bios 1999, How do I instal XUbuntu KUbuntu. Intall Crashes with (initramsfs) prompt.04:00
admin__My 1st Atempt to instal Linux ever..04:01
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grazieDuClare: You have set up a root account? Did you install opera with the root account?04:03
DuClaregrazie, nah, I mean as root with sudo04:04
grazieadmin__: Describe you system a bit more. How much ram & hard disk size?04:04
admin__Tx. 256MB Ram + PII 20GB H/Disk04:04
grazieDuClare: Not had any problems with opera myself04:04
grazieadmin__: that's fine...what do mean by Xubuntu Kubuntu? It's either Xubuntu or Kubuntu04:05
DuClarethat probably isn't important04:05
admin__Sorry half asleep from spending hours last night trying to sort this.04:05
admin__XUBUNTU04:05
admin__7.04 i386 to be exact04:06
admin__DEsktop04:06
grazieadmin__: no idea...sorry04:07
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admin__Tx 4 trying04:08
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predaeus!install | admin__04:08
ubotuadmin__: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate04:08
admin__Tx04:09
predaeusprobably 256MB is not enough for the regular installer (but better check yourself, I forgot). There is an alternative text installer (with wizard).04:09
admin__Tx. But can it instal on a Pre 2000 Bios04:10
predaeusI don't know.04:11
DuClareadmin__, check out this too, no clue if it has anything to do with the prob you have but.. http://www.ubuntux.org/ubuntu-7-problem04:11
DuClaredid you get anything else but (initramfs) ?04:11
admin__Tx04:11
DuClareyou might want to try the alternate installer anyway..04:11
grazieadmin__: so long as the bios can boot a cd image I don't know of any other limited. Unless things have radically change very recently, 256M is plenty of ram for the Desktop installer. However, the alternate does generally give less problems.04:12
grazie^^ limitation04:13
admin__Give Error: ACPI fails cutoff age. ACPI=force required04:14
admin__...04:14
admin__Tx Grazie04:14
admin__Running CD Check Option now Display a nice XUBUNTU Logo and progress screen04:17
admin__Is it normal that Progress bar is not animated as taking a wike to check CD - but NumLock Still working04:18
admin__This CD check is taking for ever..Should it?04:22
admin__Its Still Checking CD! Any ideas if crashed?04:32
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admin__Just to be sure CDRom ok would like to copy CD to Hard Disk. I formatted Hard Disk Lunt Ext?304:37
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funbitzhi, do you know some good virtual cd software for ubuntu?04:47
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ShaunWinHi,Managed to get my name back04:51
ShaunWinTrying to copy Xubuntu ISO to hard disk04:51
ShaunWinNew to this all04:51
ShaunWinCan some pro please help04:52
ShaunWinThis way can check if CD reader ok. Checked CD on another PC04:52
Ramlafunbitz: you mean like daemon tools?04:53
RamlaShaunWin: you mean to build an .iso or?04:53
Ramlahmm repetition..04:53
ShaunWinNo Have the ISO04:53
ShaunWinBut when installing it crashes04:54
funbitzRamla: yes!04:54
ShaunWinLeaves me at a Prompt (initramfs)04:54
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Ramlafunbitz: well, it's basically built in, you can mount .iso files to a directory04:55
funbitzRamla: how?  :) (don't mind my ignorance)04:56
funbitzi understand there are scripts for this or such...04:56
Ramlaas i recall, it was simply mount /path/to/file.iso /path/to/mountpoint -o loop04:57
Ramlathe thing is, last time i checked, there was no support for .ccd, .img, and other common-in-windows cd image formats04:58
Ramlaif you have one of those, i recommend googling for format2iso, like mdf2iso04:58
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Ramlaand hmm, if you prefer a graphical interface, gisomount is one option (don't know if there are many others)04:59
funbitzhmm... i found something more like daemon tools   acetoneteam.org  ... but for some reason their server doesn't work04:59
funbitzhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=328475604:59
funbitzi found this thread about it05:00
triptecwhat bittorrent client does ppl prefer??05:00
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Ramlartorrent05:05
Ramlanon-graphical though05:05
Ramlahaven't found a graphical one i'd like05:05
ShaunWinTx Guys, Will try05:11
szachistaqbittorrent is cool05:13
ShaunWinAny idea how ot get name of ISO on CD05:18
ShaunWinDon't have  linux installed05:18
cellofellowcan someome help me make a router? I need someone to bounce ideas off of mostly.05:23
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atarinoxis there anything i can do when xubuntu freezes besides a hard reboot? seems like it's been hanging a lot lately, and i hate to keep shutting down like that...05:30
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TheSheepatarinox: when you say "xubuntu freezes", what do you exactly mean?05:31
TheSheepatarinox: if it's kernel panic, then yes, you can only reboot05:32
TheSheepatarinox: if it's some application getting unresponsive, then you can usually kill that application05:32
TheSheepatarinox: same if it's some application hogging all the memory or cpu05:33
atarinoxwell ill be using swiftfox or another app and suddenly my mouse cursor stops and i can't use keyboard or mouse05:33
TheSheepatarinox: are the leds on the keyboard lit?05:34
TheSheepatarinox: do they change when you press numlock or capslock?05:34
atarinoxalso happens quite a bit after my screensaver comes on...i won't be able to log back in05:34
TheSheepatarinox: is switching to a virtual console with alt+f1 possible05:34
TheSheepatarinox: anything interesting in logs after such a "freeze"?05:35
atarinoxhow would I check the logs?05:35
atarinoxand not sure about the keyboard leds or virtual console...i'll have to wait til it hangs again, which prob won't be more than a few hours05:35
cellofellowsounds like it may be X freezing.05:35
TheSheepatarinox: you can find the logs in /var/log/05:36
atarinoxyeah...i'm not sure what i should even begin to look for05:37
atarinoxwhat would cause X to freeze?05:38
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TheSheepatarinox: usually a bug in the graphics drivers05:51
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atarinoxTheSheep: sorry, but how do i find which driver i'm running for my card?06:05
TheSheepatarinox: check you xorg.conf06:05
TheSheepatarinox: look for the "Device" section06:06
TheSheepatarinox: and the "Driver" option06:06
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atarinoxTheSheep: ok, ive got a savage driver...next time my system freezes, is there a specific log file I should post in the forums which'd help? the xorg.0.log maybe?06:25
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cheeseboyhi07:12
cheeseboywhat package is update-grub under ?07:13
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gabkdllycheeseboy: grub07:25
gabkdllyaccording to dpkg -L grub07:26
cheeseboygabkdlly: if i install ubuntu version of grub on another distro i will be able to use update-grub?07:26
gabkdllycheeseboy: don't know, sorry07:29
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triptechow do I turn off automatic logout after x minutes?08:08
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cheeseboyhow do i rescan usb devices>?08:17
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FilthpigHi, I have both xubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop installed, but it's quite annoying that they interfere with each other. I.e. I have avant installed for use in gnome, but it also shows up in xfce, which is not desirable. Beryl/Compiz also uses the same theme for the xfce session as the gnome session.. Can I fix this, so gnome and xfce work indepentently?08:19
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hellekinhow to avoid automounting a specific partition ?08:37
PriceChildhellekin, remove it from your /etc/fstab08:40
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Ramlahellekin: add option noauto to not mount it at boot. however filemanagers will probably try to mount it08:50
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Filthpighow can I make avant start in gnome but not xfce?09:05
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hyper__chtest failed09:34
hellekinPriceChild, Ramla: this is an encrypted partition used as a user's home. Whenever the user logs in from SSH, the partition pops up on the local user's desktop and that sucks :)09:41
Ramlaokay.. don't know what to say to that :p09:44
hellekinin fact, it's not in /etc/fstab at all. It's (u)mounted by a script.09:46
atarinoxdo i have to remount my network folder to refresh it?09:50
hellekinhmmmm... Is it normal that each gnome applet is taking more than 30 MB in RAM ? I thought those were *small* applications!09:53
hellekindeskbar-applet takes even more memory than firefox!09:54
TheSheephellekin: they share that memory09:55
TheSheephellekin: at least part of it09:56
hellekinTheSheep: if I have three users, do they share memory between users too or each have its own memory sink ? :)09:57
hellekinwithout the shared memory it looks like each is taking about 4MB.09:58
hellekinI'm so used to using small memory footprint apps, it's a little scary :)09:58
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TheSheephellekin: since X is started as root, at least part of the memory is shared09:58
TheSheephellekin: but most of the userspace libs are not, unfortunately09:58
TheSheephellekin: python is garbage-collected language, it still takes less memory than java ;)09:59
hellekinJava... Let's keep that an island :)09:59
TheSheephellekin: desklets and many panel plugins are written in python10:00
TheSheephellekin: that's not nat lightweight, but allows for fast development10:00
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hellekinTheSheep: do you happen to know which one is popping up the mounted partitions?10:00
TheSheephellekin: that'd be the places plugin10:01
hellekinTheSheep: Ruby would be greedier than python wouldn't it?10:01
hellekinTheSheep: thanks, I'm going to see how I can make it ignore my encrypted partition10:01
TheSheephellekin: I think that ruby doesn't merge with C libraries so nicely, but I never really used it much10:02
TheSheephellekin: if you can't report a bug, the developer is very open to feedback10:02
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hellekinTheSheep: is it a bug? I'm not sure. But surely there must or should be a way to set some "ignorable" partitions10:04
TheSheephellekin: make it a feature request :)10:04
hellekinTheSheep: now that's a bug ;o)10:04
hellekinargh... I'm importing a 14 pages PDF (converted to PS) into scribus... If the PC had a tongue and feet, it would walk on its tongue.10:05
TheSheephellekin: converting pdf to ps is usually a bad idea10:07
TheSheephellekin: they used to organize races of hdds in MIT :)10:08
hellekinarf... All I need to do actually is convert the paper size from US Letter to A4 so I can print on 2 pages / sheet10:09
hellekinI guess I didn't find the lightest solution :p10:09
TheSheephellekin: you can edit the ps file by hand for that10:10
hellekinTheSheep: that sounds a much better idea10:10
TheSheephellekin: unfortunately I don't know all the codes10:10
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c00i90wnHi, I just installed xubunut on my ubuntu gutsy with xubuntu-desktop package but I can't get compiz to work10:16
c00i90wnI tried compiz --replace &! and it didn't work10:16
triptecis it just me or is the sound quality better in windows?10:17
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c00i90wnoh apparently compiz _is_ running I just don't have window decorations10:22
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gerrohey everyone12:20
gerroanyone here use xubuntu with linuxbios?12:28
gerroI'd like to try that out but have a few questions12:28
Pumpernickel!anyone12:30
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?12:30
PumpernickelIf they're linuxbios-specific, they have their own support channel.12:30
Pumpernickel(Which is, incidentally, #openbios.)12:31
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mikubuntui just downloaded google earth for linux, it's a bin file, have it on my desktop.  how do i install it?12:40
c00i90wnmikubuntu: ./<path_to_the_bin>12:41
gerroopen up terminal then cd to where its at and chmod +x the file then do what he said ^12:42
gerroexcept its probably better to be in exact directory and do ./justthefilenothepath12:42
c00i90wnmikubuntu: but there is a better way, google now has ubuntu repositories12:42
gerrooooh that sounds nice12:43
c00i90wnmikubuntu: http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/ubuntu704.html12:43
c00i90wngerro: ^^12:43
gerronow to figure out how to uninstall my old google earth12:44
c00i90wngerro: rm -rf ~/bin or something like that12:45
gerroyeah I know12:47
gerrobut just wish was easier way12:47
gerroI hope they fixed a few glitches in google earth, kept whining about fonts and graphics card etc before12:47
gerroc00i90wn: you try nasa world wind or whatever that project is called? does it have linux client?12:48
c00i90wngerro: I only tried it on my win32 days, never liked it too much12:49
gerroyeah that's what I thought12:50
gerroand I mean they use same data don't they?12:50
c00i90wngerro: don't think so...12:51

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