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ScorpKingtazgodx: is anon_upload_enable=YES? and make sure the ftp user has permission on the upload dir.12:36
ScorpKingCprgmSwR2: ur welcome.12:37
tazgodxhow do i give anonymous user permission? and yes, anon_upload_enable is set to YES12:37
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tobias_try sudo make install first12:38
ScorpKingtazgodx: chown the upload dir to ftp user12:38
soccermike1337ok12:38
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soccermike1337make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.12:39
soccermike1337make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.12:39
soccermike1337make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.12:39
soccermike1337oh im sorry :-/ i didnt notice it was pasting it12:39
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elite101##hardware !12:40
tobias_mhm soccermike1337 did you have any error before ?12:40
tobias_in the first 3 steps I mean and the first part of the 4th step12:41
soccermike1337nope12:41
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soccermike1337just when i got to the third line12:41
tazgodxScorpKing: but if i login as anonymous, how do i chown for anonymous?12:41
soccermike1337of the uh fourth step12:41
tobias_and you did all the steps in the correct order? :/12:41
soccermike1337yep12:41
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tobias_mhm sorry, I cant help you with that then12:42
tobias_maybe you try #ubuntu again :p12:42
ScorpKingtazgodx: uhm... don't know. one sec...12:42
soccermike1337ok12:42
soccermike1337thanks12:42
tazgodxlol12:42
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ScorpKingtazgodx: so u can see all the other directories when u ftp as anon  user?12:44
sFEARsi tried the steps in that dual boot toot. got to the very last step & it gave me an error about /boot/grub/stage1 not found12:44
sFEARsany ideas?12:44
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tazgodxi see the /var/lib/mythtv folder, and there are 4 folders in that that i want to be able to write to12:45
Savakright, best pay attention to gf, night all!12:46
sFEARslater12:46
ScorpKingtazgodx: set anon_mkdir_write_enable=YES and chmod the folders in /var/lib/mythtv so ftp user can write12:47
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tazgodxi have that one setting set, how do i chmod folders in terminal?12:48
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ScorpKingtazgodx: what is ur ftp username?12:49
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tazgodxanonymous12:49
tazgodxi think i found it, hold up12:50
ScorpKingtazgodx: sudo chown anonymous:anonymous -R /var/lib/mythtv/12:50
elite101dont mind this --> ##hardware12:50
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elite101just trying to join it12:50
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tazgodxhmm, ok i got it to write a file for the uplaod, but it desconnects before actually uploading12:52
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ScorpKingtazgodx: check the logs12:52
ScorpKingtazgodx: /var/log/vsftpd.log12:53
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tazgodx[17:51:16]  500 OOPS: fchown12:53
tazgodx[17:51:16]  500 OOPS: priv_sock_get_result12:53
tazgodx[17:51:16]  *** Disconnected.12:53
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ScorpKingtazgodx: uhm... try to google the second one12:54
tazgodxk12:54
ScorpKingtazgodx: found it on the faq link i gave u.12:56
ScorpKingtazgodx: nope. not it.12:56
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SoulChildHelp,... my /etc/services file is lost after backup,... how do i restore it?12:57
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ScorpKingtazgodx: what is the chown_username set as?12:59
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tazgodxhow do i find that out?01:00
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ScorpKingtazgodx: in /etc/vsftpd.conf01:00
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ScorpKingtazgodx: i think i needs to be set to the anonymous username u created.01:01
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BiovoreoO01:07
elite101can you run windows inside Linux? like parrelels01:10
ScorpKingyes01:10
Chousukeyes, with vmware01:10
Chousukeor qemu01:10
Chousukeor xen, or kvm01:10
Chousukeor... well, you have options01:10
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elite101yeah lol or is there a thing called Virual box?01:11
elite101so you can run any OS inside linux? execpt MAC01:11
ScorpKingeven mac01:12
elite101mhm on PC>?01:12
elite101o.001:12
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ScorpKingintel version01:12
elite101ahh01:12
elite101mhm i wouldnt mind getting a Mac with very good HW this way you can run linux/windows/mac01:12
Biovorevitual box can work on other arches as well..01:12
ScorpKinggoogle for that. :D01:12
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Biovoreor theres qemu as well01:13
elite101unles the make was a c2d 2.66Ghz or quad and had 4gb ram01:13
elite101mac HW^01:13
Biovorewell its open source..01:13
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Biovorevirtual box can be compiled to any arch01:13
elite101is mac opensoure? it is Unix based?01:13
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Biovoremac is bsd based01:13
elite101ahh UNIX*01:13
Biovorebasicly its unix01:13
elite101lol if you wanna get technical01:14
ScorpKingnot free01:14
elite101:(01:14
ScorpKingu can always be a pirate :)01:14
elite101well you can run Mac on PC with it Hacked and all but i would imagine its slow and it is illegal01:14
aguitelanyone upgrade to gusty?01:14
Biovoreyeah.. mac isn't free.. the licenced BSD from berkly01:14
Biovoreand built from it..01:14
elite101mhm so could i get Berkly then build it into mac?01:15
elite101then downlaod and install make software01:15
Biovorewell its alot of work...01:15
elite101mac* no make01:15
Biovoreapple built alot of stuff to go on top of it..01:15
elite101lol i bet01:15
Biovoreand changed alot of things01:15
elite101was mac software ever free? from back when they where startung?01:15
Biovoreit isn't bsd, its just bsd like01:16
Biovorenope01:16
Biovoreits apple.. come on..01:16
elite101mmh i wouldnt mind some software form them01:16
elite101like there Movie editors and stuff01:16
Biovorethats all adobe01:16
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BiovoreLinux and video editing has some work to go..01:17
ScorpKinga lot01:17
ScorpKingmaybe one day...01:17
Biovorethere are comerical apps for profressional grade video editing for linux.. but there way out of the price range..01:17
ScorpKinglike?01:18
BiovoreI have seen some..01:18
BiovorePixar uses one01:18
Biovorethere kinda in house deals though..01:18
ScorpKingi'd rather buy software for linux than buy windows.01:18
ScorpKingor mac01:19
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elite101same01:19
elite101linux is better too so say you dont like some of there software you could change somethings01:20
ScorpKingyip01:20
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elite101mhm but i like the easy editing software from Linux01:20
Biovorehttp://www.mainconcept.com/site/ <-- video editor program01:20
Biovorecomercial01:20
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elite101free?01:20
schneider_somebody speak Spanish?01:21
elite101nope01:21
elite101espanol01:21
Hirvinen!es | schneider_01:21
ubotuschneider_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:21
ScorpKinglol01:21
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ScorpKingtazgodx: u still there? any luck?01:24
tazgodxim here01:24
tazgodxno luck01:24
tazgodxreading as much as i can01:24
ScorpKing:( same problem?01:24
tazgodxit seems it has write access to the folder, but not the files in the folder, if thats even possible01:25
Chousukethat is possible01:25
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ScorpKinganyone else know something about vsftp?01:26
ScorpKingtazgodx: if u run ls -l in the ftp dir, what's the permissions?01:27
CPrgmSwR2Has anyone in here installed the kde4 svn?01:27
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caesar_how do I get the menu that searches, like in SUSE and Sabayon?01:28
tazgodx!pastebin01:29
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:29
tazgodxhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36118/01:29
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reallyjoelI've gone through the entire KDE control center, but I can't find where to set the behaviour for clicking on files.. I want single click to be 'select'01:30
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caesar_reallyjoel: what you're looking for is actually in the "Mouse" control panel01:31
tazgodxis it possible to set up vsftpd to set chmod of all files its uploading to 755?01:31
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reallyjoelcaesar_, where's that then?01:32
ScorpKingtazgodx: is mythtv the ftp user? did u check out http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7520? scroll down to a section called Listing 1. vsftpd.conf Settings for Anonymous FTP01:32
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sFEARshello again01:32
caesar_I went to "control center", and searched for "mouse"01:32
ScorpKinghi01:32
waltercoolIn kubuntu can i install kde4 beta?01:32
caesar_reallyjoel: system->control center01:32
reallyjoelah, found it, so it was in the control center all along01:32
caesar_yup. Just not in the logical place01:32
reallyjoelcaesar_, yeah, thanks!01:33
CPrgmSwR2waltercool: you can install kde4 from svn01:33
sFEARsi'm still having trouble with my dual boot settings. anyone think they can help me out01:33
waltercoolCPrgmSwR2: And works good?01:33
caesar_Is there any way I can get the SUSE-style search menu in Kubuntu?01:33
ScorpKingtazgodx: it looks like the problem is with ur ftp user.01:33
waltercoolCPrgmSwR2: or like the alpha?01:33
caesar_like, SUSE/Sabayon style01:33
klobstermy java is dying : (01:33
reallyjoelmaybe you should consider duplicating the settings, and include it in the desktop behaviour01:33
CPrgmSwR2waltercool: it works like the alpha, because there is no kde4 that works good yet01:33
tazgodxim reading it now01:33
ScorpKingok01:33
waltercoolCPrgmSwR2: :(... so... only wait to October t_t01:34
CPrgmSwR2actually december01:34
klobsterI haven't upgrade3d it recently, I don't know why it's borked...01:34
CPrgmSwR2they pushed the release date back01:34
CPrgmSwR2but the good news is that kde4 is going to be a pretty big upgrade01:34
waltercoolCPrgmSwR2: :O but is the same visual, no?01:35
CPrgmSwR2there is a new plasma panel now01:35
CPrgmSwR2it looks really cool01:35
BluesKajCPrgmSwR2, yeah , I may need to upgrade my hardware to run it :)01:35
CPrgmSwR2you shouldn't need to kde4 users less memory01:35
BluesKaji tried the suse live cd with kde4 on it ...wouldn't even load01:36
CPrgmSwR2KDE4 is going to support composite, for those that have a new computer otherwise it will be like kde3 but with LOTS of enhancements01:36
tazgodxi think i got it somehow :)01:36
waltercoolCPrgmSwR2: well.. thats cool :)01:37
CPrgmSwR2you have to understand that kde4 has lots and lots of bugs right now01:37
waltercoolCPrgmSwR2: And another version of Kubuntu is come too, or not?01:37
CPrgmSwR2gutsy01:37
ScorpKingtazgodx: it's working?01:37
CPrgmSwR2I think so, I havn't kept track of the kubuntu stuff01:37
tazgodxi just uploaded a file01:37
klobsterany ideas on how to reset my java control?  it's affecting multiple users, so I now it's not just something I did.01:37
ScorpKing:-D01:37
CPrgmSwR2Infact I am tring to convert to kubuntu from gentoo01:37
ScorpKinggood choice01:38
Biovorekde4 will probably be herion.. (the release after gusty.. and the next LTS release)01:38
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CPrgmSwR2I just can't seem to create this kde-devel users for compiling/using kde401:38
tazgodxnow to figure out how to get mythtv to recognize my files, thanks :)01:38
klobster!java > klobster01:38
CPrgmSwR2but kde4 is quite awsome, with its plasmoid system01:39
CPrgmSwR2and it actually has true transparency01:39
inaetyCPrgmSwR2: you got the beta?01:39
waltercoolCPrgmSwR2: :O!! but uses a lot of resources that?01:39
ScorpKingtazgodx: what do you mean? ur welcome.:)01:39
CPrgmSwR2on gentoo I have the svn copy01:39
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inaetyCPrgmSwR2: i was gonna get it but i decided that it be more fun to wait for it01:40
CPrgmSwR2the only reason I got it was because I was going to develop some game kit01:40
CPrgmSwR2then I got addicted to it01:40
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waltercoolCPrgmSwR2: How amount of hours compilating that?01:40
BluesKajGutsy broke my xorg file after a net upgrade and there was no way of reconfigging the xserver enuff to get X to show on my monitor..all the sounds worked but no login spalsh screen01:40
CPrgmSwR2like 4 at most01:40
CPrgmSwR2for the mimimal that is01:41
waltercoolxOO that the main problem of gentoo xD01:41
BiovoreKDE4 will be cool once they get it fully complete..01:41
DaSkreechhi CPrgmSwR201:41
Biovoreyou can build it from souce on kubuntu to as well..01:41
CPrgmSwR2then I would say an additional 2 hours after that, but once you have it installed you can update it within a couple hours each week01:41
CPrgmSwR2hey DaSkreech01:41
CPrgmSwR2I am having trouble getting my kde-devel user to recognize my .bashrc file01:41
Biovore?01:42
Biovorewried01:42
tazgodxScorpKing:  well, now i have some mp3s in my mythtv music folder, but they aren't showing up.01:42
CPrgmSwR2sudo useradd -m kde-devel <-- this is how I create it right01:42
CPrgmSwR2?01:42
hydrogenyes01:42
CPrgmSwR2okay01:43
CPrgmSwR2kwrite: cannot connect to X server01:43
hydrogenadd -s /bin/bash01:43
hydrogenactually01:43
CPrgmSwR2oh01:43
CPrgmSwR2oops01:43
hydrogenfor one01:43
hydrogenbut01:43
hydrogenbefore you su01:43
ScorpKingtazgodx: what is ur setup again? do they show with ls?01:43
hydrogenxhost +local:kde-devel01:43
tazgodxyeah they show with ls01:44
DaSkreechCPrgmSwR2: Could have sworn you were a gentoo cow01:44
tazgodxi think its just codec problems on my mythtv setup01:44
CPrgmSwR2DaSkreech: I am sick and tired of the 20 hour install01:44
BiovoreThats the reason I went to debian.. :-P01:44
ScorpKingtazgodx: mmm. never seen mythtv. hope u get it fixed soon. :)01:45
DaSkreechCPrgmSwR2: ha ha :)01:45
Biovoregentoo is cool. just I can't stand waiting 3 hours for something to build..01:45
hydrogenwarning to kde4 hopefuls :)01:45
CPrgmSwR2Biovore: My exact thoughts01:45
hydrogendu -sh ~ = 9.8G    .01:45
DaSkreechCPrgmSwR2: Hows Kollagame going?01:45
CPrgmSwR2I am really stuck on it01:46
DaSkreechWhere?01:46
CPrgmSwR2Weill I need to create a control that allows the artist to arrange images in such a fashion to create an animation01:46
CPrgmSwR2but I cannot figure out how to create a control in Qt that allows the user to sort the images01:47
CPrgmSwR2I know how to add/remove and even insert into a list, but for some reason when I remove the same item and add it back, the qt framework discards it as a duplicate01:47
ScorpKingtazgodx: don't know if this will help but u need libxine-extracodecs to play mp3's.01:48
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DaSkreechCPrgmSwR2: asked in #kde-devel ?01:49
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CPrgmSwR2I have01:49
CPrgmSwR2DaSkreech: They just said to cool it and wait a while01:50
DaSkreechCPrgmSwR2: ha ha :) what else needs working on?01:50
CPrgmSwR2After that I just need an optmized qt graphics object01:51
CPrgmSwR2and I can finish the game01:51
CPrgmSwR2I made a small game in sdl with colliding balls01:51
tazgodxScorpKing: sweet, got my music to show up :) thats my main point of all this. now to FTP my music collection :) thanks for all your help01:51
Biovoreyeah.. QT4 has some querks01:51
DaSkreechCPrgmSwR2: Seriously?01:51
BiovoreI have had some luck with the glWidget thing though..  <-- use that as the output window of SDL stuff..01:52
CPrgmSwR2I believe so, because most of the cause of me being stuck is due to know understand how to do this/that in qt01:52
ScorpKingtazgodx: any time. have fun! :)01:52
DaSkreechCPrgmSwR2: that's really good news01:52
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CPrgmSwR2yeah, but the bad news is that I cannot get help01:53
CPrgmSwR2Its very discouraging that I cannot seem to get any one to help me develop the game01:54
CPrgmSwR2compiling qt-copy now01:54
nosrednaekimCPrgmSwR2: the qt docs are amazing..01:55
CPrgmSwR2yeah they are01:55
ScorpKingCPrgmSwR2: what game is it?01:55
CPrgmSwR2Its suppose to be mainly a RPG game IDE01:56
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ScorpKingo ok. :)01:56
CPrgmSwR2I thought it would be neat to allow individuals to developer their own rpg game with the simplicity of point/click01:56
ScorpKingyes, that would be great.01:57
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CPrgmSwR2In my mind the only thing lacking from kde is a good RPG/shoot-em up games01:58
ScorpKingtrue. i only know pascal. don't think that will be of any help.01:59
CPrgmSwR2I hate pascal01:59
CPrgmSwR2had to learn it for school briefly01:59
ScorpKinghaha01:59
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ScorpKingi wanna learn c++ but my book got stoled the other day.:(02:00
CPrgmSwR2there is an online book thats really good02:00
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ScorpKingnow i have to print a new one02:00
CPrgmSwR2and its free02:00
ScorpKingthinking in c++?02:00
CPrgmSwR2yep02:00
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ScorpKinggot vol 1 and 202:00
jordan_hi02:00
CPrgmSwR2lol02:01
klobsterreinstalling fixed my java lockups02:01
CPrgmSwR2I cannot believe someone stole your print out book02:01
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ScorpKingya that suck. it was binded and all. very neat.02:01
CPrgmSwR2I can just imagine a theif trying to sell the paper for a penny a piece02:01
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ScorpKinghaha. most likely02:02
encomkubuntu-es02:02
tazgodxhow can i remove a directory in the terminal?02:02
DaSkreech!es02:02
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:02
DaSkreechtazgodx: rm02:02
DaSkreechrmdir sorry02:02
CPrgmSwR2tazgodx: rm -R02:02
nosrednaekimtazgodx: "rm -rf ,directory name>"02:02
jordan_hey how do u open kde wallet02:02
encomthankds02:02
encomthanks02:02
nosrednaekimjordan_: "kwalletmanager"02:02
CPrgmSwR2rm -rf is force remove02:02
CPrgmSwR2be careful with that02:03
tazgodxthanks02:03
NightBirdyeah02:03
tazgodxnow, remove deletes it completely right?02:03
jordan_thx02:03
NightBirdrm -r is a safer command( though.... all it really means is that it'll ask you)02:03
hydrogenerr02:03
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NightBirdso it's only margionally safer02:03
hydrogenrm -ri02:03
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hydrogenis safer02:03
CPrgmSwR2what is rm -ri do?02:03
hydrogenit is a sometimes thing otherwise02:04
NightBirdprompts before deleting something02:04
hydrogenif you don't pass it a parameter it depends on file perms i believe02:04
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tazgodxwell i tried just rm and it told me "rm: cannot remove `dmb2007-07-08.mk4.flac16': Is a directory"02:04
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nosrednaekimtazgodx: thats why you need -r02:05
=== NightBird tried installing kde4 as an alternative startup... when I select it... it doesn't start up :P
CPrgmSwR2tazgodx: make sure you provide it with -r as that allows it to remove directories02:05
tazgodxthanks02:05
tazgodxthe -r worked02:05
CPrgmSwR2NightBird: I put exec startkde in .xinitrc02:05
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CPrgmSwR2then do startx as kde-devel to start kde402:05
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ScorpKingwell i'm off. the sun will rise in about 4 hours. better get some sleep. cheers all :)02:06
NightBirdsleep well ScorpKing02:06
CPrgmSwR2the sun is out here02:06
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NightBirdI just remembered02:06
NightBirdI have tomorrow off of work02:06
anonymousguyhelp!02:06
jordan_thats good02:06
NightBirdit is02:06
jordan_yes very02:07
jordan_help with what02:07
jordan_?02:07
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DaSkreechCPrgmSwR2: time for bed?02:07
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ubuntuHi02:08
CPrgmSwR2its 7:08 PM here02:08
anonymousguyi'm trying to install some drivers for my graphic card, but when i compile them...02:08
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anonymousguyi' can't02:08
CPrgmSwR2ati02:08
CPrgmSwR2?02:08
nosrednaekimanonymousguy: there is no need to compile drivers.02:08
anonymousguyi was downloaded02:08
CPrgmSwR2lol02:08
anonymousguyno, VIA02:08
CPrgmSwR2how do you download yourself02:08
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pepe_?02:09
NightBirdanonymousguy: are there drivers available in the repos that you can use instead?02:09
inaetyCPrgmSwR2: he can hardly speak english, give him a break02:09
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anonymousguyi was downloades them in:http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=25&CatID=2580&SubCatID=164#top02:09
NightBirdspeaking of which.... *restarts his laptop02:09
CPrgmSwR2Sorry02:09
nosrednaekimanonymousguy: are you folloing a  tutorial?02:09
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anonymousguyyes02:10
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anonymousguyhttp://www.hombrepac.com.ar/software-libre/linux/how-to-via-k8m890-chrome-9-igp-and-linuxs-xorg-ubuntu-edgy-610/02:10
anonymousguythis is02:10
ubuntuhmm i have a question. Can i use another Media player besides Amarok. I'm a total noob with Kubuntu02:10
hydrogenyes02:10
nosrednaekimanonymousguy: use the official ubuntu one..02:10
WaltzingAlongubuntu: of course02:10
ubuntuoh sweet02:10
CPrgmSwR2ubuntu download juk02:10
nosrednaekim!via | anonymousguy02:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about via - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:10
ubuntuanother thing02:10
nosrednaekim!graphics | anonymousguy02:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:10
lavacano201014!xmms | ubuntu02:11
ubotuubuntu: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs02:11
nosrednaekim!ati | anonymousguy02:11
ubotuanonymousguy: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:11
hydrogenfeel free to browse the multimedia category of add/remove programs to see the selection02:11
nosrednaekimanonymousguy: that has via driver instructions as well02:11
ubuntuif i acreate a partition in one of my hard drivers and i Install Kubuntu there and i have Windows Xp in another parititon i will have problems?02:11
anonymousguyno, that is VIA no ATI or NVidia02:11
lavacano201014no02:11
anonymousguyyes02:11
WaltzingAlongubuntu: done right, no02:11
lavacano201014ubuntu: you will wind up with a menu asking which operating system you want to use02:11
lavacano201014provided the partitioning doesnt damage Windows XP beyond repaie02:12
lavacano201014then only Kubuntu works02:12
ubuntuuh hu02:12
lavacano201014but that has never happened that i know of so02:12
ubuntuwell both partition will be in a differnt hard drive02:12
lavacano201014waaaay too rare02:12
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anonymousguy...02:12
ubuntuhmm02:12
lavacano201014then XP will never know whats going on02:12
ubuntuok02:12
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nosrednaekimanonymousguy: there are instructions for VIA on that page as well.02:13
anonymousguyi suposse02:13
WaltzingAlongubuntu: ms windows is just fragile but it can be done02:13
inaetynosrednaekim: where on that binary page?02:13
nosrednaekiminaety: what?02:13
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anonymousguyinaety, can explain them what happened02:14
inaetynosrednaekim: where on the binary how to page does it have bia?02:14
inaetyvia*02:14
inaetyanonymousguy: yeah02:14
nosrednaekimumm lemme see.02:14
caesar_my gnome programs look awful in KDE. What can I do about this?02:14
sayersHow do I have Bluetooth not boot up when I turn my computer on02:14
nosrednaekimcaesar_: opne kcontrol and go to appearance->gtk sytle02:14
caesar_thanks!02:15
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WaltzingAlongcaesar_: kmenu / system settings / appearance / gtk style and themes02:15
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Daisuke-Laptopoh yay, kernel update that's supposed to fix some of the 1420n issues :D02:16
inaetybasically he was following some tutorial on how to install the via graphic driver he has and it wants him to have the folder on the /, however, the program should do it for him but it says that the folder already exists...so he tried to delete it and stuff and made sure that there is nothing pertaining to the folder on / but it still says that it is there02:16
caesar_wait. "gtk style and themes" isn't there.02:16
lavacano201014caesar_: sudo apt-get install gnome02:16
nosrednaekimlavacano201014: what?02:16
WaltzingAlongcaesar_: styles and fonts?02:16
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caesar_I already have gnome. I installed KDE after having  Ubuntu (not kubuntu) installed02:16
lavacano201014ah02:16
nosrednaekimanonymousguy: appologies... it wan't on that page02:17
caesar_so what's the middle-step I need?02:17
lavacano201014i did the reverse02:17
WaltzingAlongcaesar_: to install kubuntu-desktop?02:17
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lavacano201014run GNOME apps in a GNOME session02:17
lavacano201014and KDE apps in a KDE session02:17
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lavacano201014i have both open at once02:17
WaltzingAlonglavacano201014: :D02:17
nosrednaekimcaesar_: its in system settings->appearance->gtk styles and fonts02:17
Daisuke-Laptoprun whichever in whichever session, the thing won't explode ;)02:18
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caesar_ok. Installing Kubuntu02:18
anonymousguy?02:18
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Daisuke-Laptopexaile is truly just an amarok clone -_-02:19
nosrednaekimyep.02:20
dwidmannWell there goes another weekend of work :) Now for my 4 days off02:20
lavacano201014heh02:20
Daisuke-Laptopand not a particularly good one either02:20
dwidmannDaisuke-Laptop: how counterproductive ...02:20
DaSkreechDaisuke-Laptop: It's not bad02:20
nosrednaekimanonymousguy: here you go http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=5&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FOpenChrome&ei=FlPbRovMKoTeeufv1LsJ&usg=AFQjCNEVUz-FmmjsxKkAktW1XBBiwPr2MA&sig2=AQX1d9fxPDfSnYG61GfnVg02:20
Daisuke-Laptopdwidmann: i use ubuntu on the laptop and kubuntu on the desktop02:20
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lavacano201014my Kubuntu system doesnt like my sound card anyway, so...02:20
Daisuke-Laptopso i thought...  i should try out the gnome alternatives on the laptop\02:21
DaSkreech!sound | lavacano20101402:21
ubotulavacano201014: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP302:21
lavacano201014it doesnt matter to me at all02:21
lavacano201014the speakers arent hooked into it anyway02:22
anonymousguynorsednaekim: i was tried whit the ubuntu ones, but doesn't work02:22
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nosrednaekimanonymousguy: these are not the ubutnu drivers..02:22
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dwidmannDaisuke-Laptop: I almost tried to do that when my 1420n showed up at my door .... within an hour I found myself surgically removing gnome and installing kde02:22
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Daisuke-Laptopdwidmann: so i'm not the only one that got one :D02:23
inaetyanonymousguy: have you ever seen http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=5&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FOpenChrome&ei=FlPbRovMKoTeeufv1LsJ&usg=AFQjCNEVUz-FmmjsxKkAktW1XBBiwPr2MA&sig2=AQX1d9fxPDfSnYG61GfnVg before?02:23
Daisuke-Laptopawesome02:23
anonymousguyno02:23
KommandoThe nvidia drivers that are on the Nvidia site are the same for all the versions of ubuntu?02:24
Daisuke-Laptopi should reboot though, kernel update02:24
Kommandosorry if it's a dumb question02:24
dwidmannDaisuke-Laptop: if you haven't already I recommend upgrading to Gutsy, it has a bit better support of the hardware and seems to be stable atm02:24
dwidmannKommando: the only dumb question is the one that isn't asked.02:24
hitmanWillyKommando: i would suggest using the repo ones02:24
aguiteli need help with this problem,when i restart o shutdown my laptop ,appears screen with ugly colors02:24
Daisuke-Laptopreally now...  just a replace feisty with gutsy and do an update/dist-upgrade?02:24
kteagan84so I'm primarily a GNOME user but I'm currently downloading kubuntu to try out the desktop environment...anything I need to know?02:24
Kommandook man thanks02:24
inaetyanonymousguy: go back to #kubuntu-es...02:25
Kommandoso far kubuntu is amazing. on on the live cd to see how well the OS runs02:25
Kommandoi'm on*02:25
dwidmannKommando: the versionin the repositories sometimes lag behind a version or two, but they aren't ancient, they're fresh as of the time of the Ubuntu version release02:25
Kommandooh sweet02:25
hitmanWillyKommando: i've seen several issues with the website nvidia drivers in relation to (k)ubuntu02:25
dwidmann(and Ubuntu releases every six months)02:25
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lavacano201014Kommando: ive lagged a little while using the live CD, but once its installed it just speeds by02:25
Daisuke-Laptoprecompiling the kernel module every time you have a kernel update (that therefore breaks x) is a pain.02:25
Kommandomine it's not really lagging02:26
Daisuke-Laptopso stick with the repo drivers02:26
Daisuke-Laptopi shall return02:26
Kommandothe only thing that i haven't been able to do is browse my hard drives. i can play cdwss and watch dvds but i can't browse my hard drives for some reason02:26
hitmanWillyKommando: i bet you it is, wait until you install it02:26
Kommandoit gives me an error02:26
dwidmannkteagan84: not really, except that you need to remember kde is very flexible. It's amazing how many gnome users run away from kde just because they didn't like the defaults (which are a bit different)02:26
aguiteli need help with this problem,when i restart o shutdown my laptop ,appears screen with ugly colors02:26
Kommandowell yeah i'm gonna have to install it to see how it runs02:26
Daisuke-Laptopnot gonna leave yet02:26
Daisuke-Laptopforgot i was downloading the GDI disc of CnC02:27
dwidmannaguitel: what video drivers are you using?02:27
hitmanWillyKommando: compared to a live-cd, a hd install flies02:27
Kommandoyeah i know02:27
Angelus7676is there something in linux to create flash animations?02:27
aguitelati  drivers dwidmann02:27
kteagan84dwidmann: alright, I'll keep that in mind...I plan on using both whenever I feel like it because I like to try out various DE's02:27
dwidmannaguitel: wow, I hit the nail on the head every time.02:27
aguiteli have laptop soy vaio02:27
dwidmannkteagan84: tried fluxbox yet? I like it ...02:28
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Daisuke-Laptopis that like a soy vente, half-caff?02:28
aguiteldwidmann ,do you know how to fix it02:28
hitmanWillynever know when one of those pesky rootkits will pop up....02:28
kteagan84dwidmann: I've tried out openbox, and it's pretty cool. Very bare bones and customizable which I like02:28
anonymousguyi was do all the thing that there say until i have't seen the page before, but it doesn't work02:28
dwidmannaguitel: You probably won't have any luck fixing it. You can blame ATI/AMD for that. Are you using fglrx or the default ati?02:28
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dwidmannkteagan84: one thing I've been meaning to try is enlightenment, I hear it's interesting02:29
nosrednaekimanonymousguy: that page doesn't work? you did the page>02:29
Kommandothis is the error that it gives me everytime i try to browse my hard Disks.  "Halt Storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 999"02:29
hitmanWillykteagan84: tried windowmaker?02:29
DaSkreechhitmanWilly: what about Hardware?02:29
aguiteldwidmann ,how i know this?02:29
Daisuke-Laptopit's interesting alright, but all of the neat eyecandy that was meant to debut with dr17 has already been done02:29
kteagan84hitmanWilly: not yet, is it good?02:29
Daisuke-Laptopthanks to beryl and compiz( fusion)02:29
hitmanWillykteagan84: yeah, once you get it set up right02:30
anonymousguyno, the steps that there are02:30
kteagan84dwidmann: I've heard it's great, haven't tried it yet02:30
dwidmannaguitel: grep driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:30
kteagan84hmmm...might try it out02:30
hitmanWillyDaSkreech: my refusal to buy anything sony stems more from a personal vendetta than quality issues02:30
dwidmannDaisuke-Laptop: to which "neat eyecandy" are we referring?02:31
kteagan84well this is my first time using KDE, I'm signing out, but wish me luck!02:31
DaSkreechhitmanWilly: ah ok :)02:31
aguiteldwidmann ,to type  in the console this command?02:31
Daisuke-Laptopjust the whole compositing thing02:31
Kommandothis is the error that it gives me everytime i try to browse my hard Disks.  "Halt Storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 999"02:31
dwidmannaguitel: yeah02:31
Daisuke-Laptophowever02:31
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aguiteldwidmann ,say nothing02:31
dwidmannhmm, probably an oops on my part02:31
dwidmannaccursed case sensitivity :\02:32
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dwidmannaguitel: "grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf" the only differnce here is that I uppercased the D02:32
dwidmannaguitel: there'll be three or four, but only one of them will be for the video card, it will either be ati, radeon, vesa, or fglrx02:33
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aguiteldwidmann ,say driver ati in the last line02:34
dwidmannaguitel: well, that's the default reverse engineered ati driver, maybe you'll have better luck with the proprietary fglrx one?02:35
dwidmann!ati | aguitel02:35
ubotuaguitel: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:35
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Daisuke-Laptopdwidmann: looking at e17's feature list, a lot of it isn't duplicated in compiz02:35
Daisuke-Laptoplooks like i spoke too soon02:36
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dwidmannDaisuke-Laptop: anything in particular stand out?02:36
Daisuke-Laptophttp://enlightenment.org/p.php?p=about/dev&l=en02:36
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nosrednaekimno performance hit ;)02:36
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dwidmannnosrednaekim: in?02:37
Fusion_hi guys. where do i look first if konqueror can't go online? thanks02:37
DaSkreechbitlost: level up!02:37
nosrednaekime17 effects don't have the performance hit that compiz does02:37
nosrednaekimFusion_: netowrkmanager is telling ti that its not online.02:38
bitlostDaSkreech : huh?02:38
aguiteldwidmann ,can i install ati drivers with envy?02:38
DaSkreechFrom clueless to a bitlost02:39
Daisuke-Laptopnosrednaekim: true02:39
dwidmannaguitel: I think so, I'm pretty sure Alberto Milone added that a few months ago02:39
Fusion_nosrednaekim: i can go online. it's just konqueror who can't....02:39
bitlostlol02:39
Daisuke-Laptop!envy02:39
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!02:39
nosrednaekimaguitel: no, use the restricted-manager.02:39
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nosrednaekimFusion_: yeah... Knetowkrmanager is probably telling konqueror that its not in online mode.02:39
dwidmannnosrednaekim: my macines are beasts, I never noticed any performance hits when running Beryl ^^;02:39
dwidmann*machines02:40
DaSkreechFusion_: disconnect and reconnect02:40
nosrednaekimdwidmann: with crappy ATI integrated cards I do.. :(02:40
Fusion_DaSkreech: yeah tried that02:40
dwidmannnosrednaekim: a 7900GTX in my box upstairs02:40
dwidmannI wonder how well my laptop can handle it *ponders*02:41
DaSkreechFusion_: If it helps the same thing happens to me in Vista02:41
nosrednaekimtry putting that in a laptop.02:41
nosrednaekimexactly02:41
bitlostdoes anyone know why my laptop isn't recognizing usb devices?...where do i start?02:42
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nosrednaekimbitlost: plug in a usb device and run "dmesg"02:42
dwidmannFusion_: go with what nosrednaekim said, if possible, try killing knetworkmanger, then trying to access websites and such in kde apps02:42
aguitelnosrednaekim ,how install ati drives with restricted-manager ?02:42
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nosrednaekimaguitel: you have restricted-manager installed?02:43
Fusion_DaSkreech: err... i mean everything is fine. firefox, tbird, irc, konversation.... it's just knoqueror02:43
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aguitelnosrednaekim ,i am in  kubuntu ,how i know ?02:43
bitlostnosrednaekim: i got loooooong output string02:44
dwidmannDaSkreech: oh, and like I was saying about Gutsy earlier, have you tried it yet? They finally got around to some things I've been waiting for for a year. I really should get around to getting my hands dirty ... I hate waiting for things.02:44
nosrednaekimbitlost: whats it say at the end? something about USB I should hope\02:44
bitlostyes02:44
nosrednaekimaguitel: try running "kdesu restricted-manager"02:44
nosrednaekimbitlost: pastebin the last 20 lines or so.02:44
DaSkreechdwidmann: Tribe 6 is coming out soon02:45
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nosrednaekimtribe 5 was just released I thought.02:45
bitlostnosrednaekim: http://pastebin.com/mc073f4302:45
dwidmannDaSkreech: restricted-manager-kde, KdeSudo, gdebi-kde, adept lists all the files in the packages (I'm not sure if I missed this in feisty or not, was it there ... I know that had to be new at some point)02:46
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aguitelnosrednaekim ,it say :failed to open device02:46
nosrednaekimaguitel: dont worry about that stuff.02:46
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Fusion_dwidmann: yeah that worked this time. weird...02:46
Fusion_thanks02:46
nosrednaekimbitlost: that doesn't look good. does it do that for every device you plug in?02:46
dwidmannFusion_: yeah ... if you don't "need" kdenetworkmanager, I recommend uninstalling it02:46
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bitlostim trying another one02:47
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Fusion_dwidmann: i think i'll do that. never use it anyway. thanks again02:47
dwidmannFusion_: it probably won't be fixed til Gutsy+1, well, maybe it will be fixed in time for gutsy, they're working on it right now ...02:48
dwidmannand they *do* have a couple months02:48
kteagan84so I'm trying out kubuntu and I have to say it's quite nice. I am already used to gnome and xfce, but kde has its merits02:48
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kteagan84it definitely seems better for new linux users, especially those used to windows02:48
Fusion_dwidmann: i hope so. that's a really weird bug. wouldn't have been able to figure that out myself02:49
CPrgmSwR2kteagan84: wait for kde402:49
nosrednaekimkteagan84: most people are of the opposite opinion02:49
dwidmannkteagan84: yeah, I think that's why so many gnome users hate the defaults ... but I can't be sure ...02:49
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dwidmannCPrgmSwR2: But that's like, 4 months away!02:49
bitlostnosrednaekim: http://pastebin.com/m4e0fa6b502:49
CPrgmSwR2yeah I know02:49
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bitlostnosrednaekim: looks a little different02:49
dwidmannCPrgmSwR2: and even longer till the .1 release ... and even longer before all the capabilities are fully utilized.02:50
DaSkreechdwidmann: or a compile away :)02:50
kteagan84dwidmann: hmm... yeah it's definitely worthwhile...I do like the defaults I guess I'm just used to gnome more :D02:50
nosrednaekimbitlost: IDK what the problem is.. post it on the forums or ask in #ubuntu02:50
bitlostok thanks02:51
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dwidmannDaSkreech: yeah .... if you're wanting a beta, wait, was the first beta out  yet? That reminds me, I need to install that.02:51
Fusion_if KDE4 works as stable as 3.5.x i'll be happy02:51
dwidmannDaSkreech:  you do know that there are packages for it in the repos right?02:51
CPrgmSwR2dwidmann: the second beta is only days away02:51
DaSkreechdwidmann: Beta2 is flagged02:51
sayersI told KDE to never store password for a site. Can Irevert that?02:51
DaSkreechdwidmann: yeah02:51
dwidmannsayers: probably02:51
sayersdwidmann: how? ;)02:52
dwidmannsayers, let me give it a quick glance, I'll figure something out02:52
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dwidmannsayers, there's probably either a file for it, or perhaps it's blocked via a cookie, or somehow blocked in the kwallet, since it would store the password in the wallet, I'd check there first, next I would check for a config file in the ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/ folder02:55
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dwidmannOuch, it looks like kde4base is a 280mb download!02:56
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nosrednaekim:)02:57
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PsycoshotHey, how do I check my video card driver?02:58
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dwidmannPsycoshot: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:59
klobsterjava is still borked, even after a reinstall, on all users in Konq and in firefox.  It just hangs, randomly.  anyone have any ideas?02:59
dwidmannit'll be one of those listed02:59
dwidmannklobster: which version of java?02:59
lavacano201014klobster: get rid of it completely, uninstall it then delete any traces of it02:59
lavacano201014then reinstall02:59
klobsterdwidmann: jre603:00
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Psycoshotdwidmann: It says ATI, is that a default?03:00
PsycoshotI have a ATI Radeon 920003:00
dwidmannklobster: installed from the repos? ... perhaps downloading it off sun's site and installing it might work better03:00
dwidmannPsycoshot: yeah, that's the default open source reverse engineered ati driver.03:01
PsycoshotOk, what should I get then?03:01
klobsterdwidmann: maybe03:01
PsycoshotI suck at installing drivers03:01
DaSkreechPsycoshot: stick with that one I think it's the best one for 920003:02
dwidmannPsycoshot: for? Depends on what you need, for some purposes there's nothing wrong with using that, particularly with some of the older radeons IIRC03:02
PsycoshotWell I have like SuperKaramba, kiba-dock and compiz-fusion, so its starting to lag.,03:02
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dwidmannPsycoshot: glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"03:03
dwidmannPsycoshot: well, compiz-fusion isn't exactly light...03:03
dwidmannPsycoshot: it probably will lag on an older card like that.03:03
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Psycoshotdwidmann: "Yes"03:04
dwidmannPsycoshot: yeah, then it's definitely the driver that's needed, then again, I think I knew that from the point you mentioned that compiz actually ran with the OSS driver.03:05
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PsycoshotYa03:05
PsycoshotIts all great, just slower reaction time,03:06
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dwidmannPsycoshot: like I said, it's probably the card (being as it's old)03:06
PsycoshotYa,03:06
PsycoshotOk thanks for your help.03:06
dwidmannPsycoshot: no problem03:06
sayersdwidmann: ill ask in kde ;D03:06
dwidmannsayers:  saw nothing?03:07
dwidmannsayers: well, meanwhile I'll see if I can figure anything more out03:07
sayersdwidmann: I didnt look just yet, they might know the 'offical' way03:07
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dwidmann:O I just noticed something in amarok 1.4.7 (gutsy)!!03:08
sayersdwidmann: :O what is it?03:08
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dwidmannWhen the dialog window shows with the song title, if you were typing in a box that's under it, the text box shows thru! hurray!03:08
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sayersdwidmann: thats good?03:09
dwidmannsayers: well, otherwise you have a window covering the textbox you're trying to type in, and IMO that's really quite annoying.03:09
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jhutchinsdwidmann: Amarok?03:15
dwidmannjhutchins: mmmmmhm03:15
jhutchinsYeah, amarok devs got braaaains.03:15
dwidmannjhutchins: not to mention mad skillz03:15
dwidmannsayers, have you tried clearing your cookies for the site?03:16
dwidmann(assuming there are any)03:16
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CPrgmSwR2why kubuntu is so awsome03:17
CPrgmSwR2why = wow03:17
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klobsternevermind, I think it's actually a flash thing.  and it appears to be common.03:18
DaSkreechCPrgmSwR2: Welcome my brethen :)03:18
iskaldurcan anyone recommend a decent/cheap/under $40 graphics card that would allow me to run compiz fusion decently? (i don't care about games)03:18
Biovoreiskaldur: cheap nvidia03:19
Daisuke-Laptopiskaldur: check newegg for low-end nvidia cards03:19
sayersdwidmann: no03:19
Daisuke-Laptopperhaps the 6200 range03:19
CPrgmSwR2http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048+4025+106790717&name=GeForce+7+series03:19
iskaldurso any of these will work well with kubuntu (no messy configuring) and run something like compiz fusion well?03:21
CPrgmSwR2iskaldur: just so long its not ati03:21
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Daisuke-Laptophttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681412154203:21
CPrgmSwR2oh wow Daisuke-Laptop thats a good deal03:22
CPrgmSwR2mabye I should buy one03:22
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iskaldurhaha, hmm, ill get that one :) thanks03:23
CPrgmSwR2iskaldur: but I have to say you are taking a risk03:23
Daisuke-Laptopit's *not* a workhorse, but a relatively simple 3d card03:23
iskaldurcprgmswr2: why risk?03:24
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CPrgmSwR2I read an article about how specs can sound great and all, while the card sucks period03:25
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dwidmannCPrgmSwR2: well, there's not as much market for them anymore, seeing as they're on the lower end of a two generation old chipset.03:25
CPrgmSwR2so he should be fine with that one?03:25
dwidmann(if he as I suspected linked you to a 6200)03:25
CPrgmSwR2http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681412154203:26
CPrgmSwR2thats the link03:26
sayersdwidmann: I tried that but no luck03:26
danielroninI need help, I'm getting invalid login...I think deleting .directory from  /kde/Autostart is why03:26
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BluesKaj$40 for a video card to run 3D and DRI , compiz-beryl eyecandy is cutting it close :)03:27
dwidmannsayers: I just now tried, clearing the cookie(s) made it pop up and ask again ....03:27
danielroninI'm on my desktop now, but can't login to laptop03:27
BiovoreThat card will do fine..03:27
CPrgmSwR2iskaldur: I take that back.. I didn't notice the reviews03:27
CPrgmSwR2104 said it was worth every penny of it03:27
danielronincan anyone help me pls?03:28
danielroninmuch thanks in advance03:28
dwidmannsayers: here was what I did, went to my banksite, logged in, said never for this site, closed out, went back in - it didn't prompt, nor remember, closed out, pulled up konqueror, cleared the cookies for my bank site, closed out, opened another konqueror, went to the site, it prompted this time.03:28
Biovore!ask03:29
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:29
CPrgmSwR2wow $139 for windows xp pro03:29
dwidmanndanielronin: if deleting that dir caused the problem, why not just recreate that dir03:29
sayersCPrgmSwR2: what a deal!03:29
danielronini can't log back in!03:29
CPrgmSwR2sayers: I know03:29
danielronini don't have the laptop setup to ssh into either03:29
dwidmannCPrgmSwR2: wow, we all know why vista didn't drive the price down ;)03:29
danielroninis there a way to recreate the dir from the live cd?03:30
dwidmanndanielronin: it's easy to setup ssh03:30
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dwidmanndanielronin: sudo apt-get install openssh-server, and you're good to go!03:30
CPrgmSwR2Said thing is that I have windows xp pro and it says I activated it too many times03:30
sayersdwidmann: we o?03:30
sayersthat has not worked dwidmann03:30
danielronincan i do that when i can't even log into the machine?03:30
dwidmannCPrgmSwR2: call them and ask them for it, you get three free calls, and they hand out regs like candy hehe03:31
sayersdanielronin: it needs to be on.03:31
danielroninit's not accepting my passwd now03:31
danielronini can't get past the login screen03:31
CPrgmSwR2oh my gosh they charge you after the third call?03:31
sayersCPrgmSwR2: yeah03:31
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dwidmannsayers: be sure that the password wasn't stored in a different set ... for example, when I deleted cookies there was wachovia.com and wach.wachovia.com, I had to delete both.03:31
danielronindoes the .document file in .kde/Autostart keep the sudo passwd info?03:31
CPrgmSwR2sayers: how much do they charge you03:32
sayersCPrgmSwR2: All my crack money NOOOO I don't know :p03:32
danielronini don't even know how to access anthing outside of the live cd =(03:32
CPrgmSwR2lol03:32
dwidmanndanielronin, I know a potential fix03:32
DaSkreechdanielronin: Hmm?03:32
dwidmannfirst things first though danielronin03:32
danielroninok, i'm listening03:33
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sayersdwidmann: this is still not working :)03:33
dwidmanndanielronin: boot up in "recovery mode", then run "passwd username" (username being *your* username, and make sure it will work03:33
danielronindang...only one problem with that03:33
dwidmannsayers: clear them all? ... all I can say is it got the worked-for-me stamp of approval03:33
dwidmanndanielronin: oh good, only one03:34
danielronini commented out the recovery mode option from /boot/grub/menu.lst03:34
dwidmanndanielronin: that's fixable03:34
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danielroninso that option isn't available from a non disc boo03:34
danielronint03:34
dwidmanndanielronin: when booting, press 'e' on the regular line03:34
dwidmannit'll take you into edit mode03:34
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dwidmannnow go down to the kernel line, press 'e' again, remove quiet and splash from the end, add single to the end, press enter, press  b03:35
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sayersdwidmann: ah well I remember the password Ill see what I can do03:36
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dwidmannsayers: sorry I couldn't do more for you ... seems to be behaving different for you :\03:37
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danielroninaha! dwidmann: thanks for pointing me in the right direction03:41
dwidmanndanielronin: it work?03:41
danielronini was able to get in a handmake the .directory file by getting in that way03:42
dwidmann*nod*03:42
danielroninand tweaking the copy from my desktop03:43
dwidmanndanielronin: alternatively you could've chrooted in from the livecd03:43
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danielronini'm in now, thanks again :^)03:43
dwidmannyw03:43
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encomubuntu-es03:45
dwidmann!es03:45
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:45
encom#ubuntu-es03:45
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godstormhello03:46
godstormi need help03:46
godstormif some one can03:46
Jucato!ask03:46
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:46
godstormi need to know how i can use sound card for Listing and talk on TS03:47
godstormat the same time03:47
JucatoTS?03:47
godstormyea ts03:47
Jucatoah TeamSpeak?03:47
godstormTeamSpeak03:47
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Jucatosorry. no idea about teamspeak :(03:48
godstormwell i have it up and running03:48
godstormand i install it03:48
dwidmanngodstorm: not working ootb?03:48
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godstorm?03:48
Jucatoootb = out of the box03:48
dwidmann(out of the box)03:48
godstormbut the sound card use only one03:48
godstormbut it's use's one sorues tho like if i use Ts i can not use Mp3 to listen to my Songs03:50
dwidmanngodstorm: some apps are like that. Probably need to use some sort of software mixing like dmixer or something ... try asking over in #alsa03:51
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godstormok03:51
godstormhere one more03:51
godstormhow can i install gcc03:51
godstormon here03:51
DaSkreech!b-e | godstorm03:51
ubotugodstorm: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)03:51
godstormk03:52
dwidmanngodstorm: I'd install the build-essential package, I'mnot sure if it depends on gcc though, so lets be explicit, "sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc"03:52
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stdindwidmann: it does03:52
stdinas it's a "build essential" :p03:52
dwidmannstdin: I wasn't sure if it did or not .... I knew it depended on g++ though ...03:53
DaSkreechdwidmann: you don't think that gcc is essential to building? :)03:53
Jucatodwidmann: g++ depends on gcc03:53
dwidmannhmm, figures, but I wasn't sure if it did or not03:53
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keeserccanybody done a lan dns server with a hardware router that does dhcp but wont let you specify a IP adress for a given hardware address?03:53
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Jucatoafter all, GCC is the GNU Compiler *collection* :)03:53
dmkanyone know of a good instant messenger that does aol,yahoo, and yahoo chat?03:53
Jucato(not the GNU C Compiler...)03:53
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DaSkreech!yahoo03:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yahoo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:54
TraXdmk: Kopete03:54
dwidmann(anymore)03:54
DaSkreechblast :)03:54
Jucatokopete03:54
DaSkreechkopete03:54
stdinkopete03:54
keeserccdmk: kopete03:54
BluesKajdunno if kopete does yahoo chat03:54
dmkthanks DaSkreech03:54
stdineveryone say "kopete"03:54
Jucatoanyone else? :)03:54
hitmanWillyit does03:54
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dmkI GOT KOPETE BUT NO YAHOO CHAT ROOMS03:54
anyonekopete03:54
Jucatoer it doesn't03:54
Jucato!caps | dim03:54
BluesKajtoobad , yahoo is evil03:54
ubotudim: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.03:54
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dmk\sorry for caps03:54
Jucato!caps | dmk03:54
ubotudmk: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.03:54
dwidmannwow, I count 5 Kopetes, redundancy anyone? just in case the person didn't see the first one03:55
Jucatoyeah Kopete doesn't do yahoo chatrooms... but then again aside from Yahoo Messenger, what does?03:55
BluesKajkopete , anyone ?03:55
hitmanWillyoh, chatrooms, not messenger, heh03:55
dwidmannJucato: that's what was being asked03:55
dmki was hoping kopete would03:55
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stdinyahoo "chat rooms" are just IRC channels IIRC03:55
daSkreechYahoo! under wine?03:55
keeserccsorry to repeat:  anybody done a lan dns server with a hardware router that does dhcp but wont let you specify a IP adress for a given hardware address?03:55
dmkreally03:55
dwidmannstdin: really, hmm, any idea what the server address is?03:55
dmki dont yahoo chat but im spying on my girlfriends parents, lol03:56
BluesKajyup, irc with a yahoo gui03:56
stdinthere is also a yahoo client for "unix" (linux)03:56
dmkwell trying to03:56
scheater5dkm: Never tried that particullar feature, butin gaim when you "add chat" there's an option for a yahoo chat room03:56
JucatoI don't think the yahoo unix client does chatrooms either...03:56
hitmanWillyyeah, but it sucks03:56
dmklol03:56
stdindwidmann: no, but I'd guess chat.yahoo.com03:56
dwidmannstdin: they're funny that way aren't they? They say Unix then they give you debs and rpms  ...03:56
dmkill try b that first thanks all03:56
dmkyeah i seen that on yahoo's site03:57
leandrohola03:57
leandroa todos03:57
leandroestoy en kubuntu lero lero03:58
keeserccanybody done a lan dns>03:58
keesercc?03:58
stdin!es | leandro03:58
ubotuleandro: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:58
daSkreechkeesercc: install bind03:58
dwidmannstdin: that's what it is, but it said that the connection is actively refused, what does that mean?03:58
leandrohello people, i'm from argentina03:58
stdindwidmann: they probably use some strange port number03:59
keeserccdaSkreech: thank you for responding.  I have installed bind9, my problem is the lan ip adresses are assigned by my router/dhcp server03:59
kkathmanis there a keyboard command to get the menu back on konquerror - it seems to have disappeared :(03:59
leandrowhat is bind?03:59
dwidmannstdin: I think I'll try to dig it up.03:59
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daSkreechkkathman: ctrl+M03:59
stdindwidmann: you can connect with the java client on yahoos site and do a "netstat -ap" too see what it connects too04:00
daSkreechkeesercc: what does that run?04:00
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kkathmandaSkreech:  thanks - I was using alt-M and CTRL-Alt M lol04:00
mm_202Hey guys, is there a decent video conference program for [K] Ubuntu?  Preferably something that would be able to conference with WIndows..04:00
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keeserccdaSkreech: the router/dhcp server?  its a actionec router from verizon.04:00
daSkreechThat reminds me04:02
daSkreech are there any project managment apps that have video?04:02
dwidmannstdin, I'll try that after this plan fails, I'm checking a few of the default yahoo ports04:03
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dwidmannhmm, definitely not the same as the yahoo chat ports04:04
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scheater5Anyone manged to get the real-time kernel from the gusty repos installed in 7.04?04:04
sayersis there a KDE version of Mono?04:04
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daSkreechsayers: say again?04:05
sayersdaSkreech: As in QT version of Mono04:05
TraXsayers: Check out MonoDevelop in synaptic04:05
gandhiimy panel that I have set to auto hide...  isnt coming back up now when i roll my mouse over specified region...   is there a hotkey for making it appear?04:05
sayersTraX: that is GTK04:05
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daSkreechsayers: you want an IDE or a new language?04:06
sayersdaSkreech: Well long story is : I have to take VB Class and I want to make use out of it in linux.04:06
Jucatogandhii: press Alt+F2, type "kcontrol", go to Desktop -> Panels and reset the position of the panel04:06
daSkreechsayers: ah04:07
daSkreechsayers: try #kde-devel04:07
gandhiithanks alot  ;] 04:07
TraXsayers: Do you really need .net support?04:07
daSkreechI'm not sure how well Kdevelop handles mono but you can ask around04:07
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sayersTraX: Need it.. No? Want it.. Not really. However I want to be able to say to the teacher, that vb code can still be taught for linux or could I use python04:08
CPrgmSwR2I am having to take a VB class too04:09
daSkreechsayers: Well if it helps any you can install monodevelop and still run it fine04:09
TraXsayers: Well if your not doing vb.net then you could look into kdevelop04:10
dwidmannstdin: the more I think about it, the more I think it'll try to use port 80 for everything (web interface ... that people will want to use at school/work/etc behind a firewall)04:10
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TraXsayers: And MonoDevelop works in kde04:10
sayersTraX: so I can still do VB code in Kdevelop?04:10
dwidmannsayers: python ftw!04:10
sayersdwidmann: I know but I dont know if he knows04:10
TraXsayers: Let me look04:10
encom#ubuntu-es04:11
CPrgmSwR2I don't think kdevelop supports vb coding04:11
sayersmaybe he will let me do python04:11
sayerswhich is accutely easier than VB04:11
dwidmannsayers: you can do vb code in notepad. Compiling, running, and debugging it is another story.04:11
CPrgmSwR2sayers: what about java04:12
CPrgmSwR2or c++04:12
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daSkreechIs it VB.net?04:12
flaccid0sum04:13
flaccid0svb is discontinued04:13
dwidmannIf it is VB.net, I feel sorry for you already. I hate vb.net ... it's like microsoft took all of the few merits vb had, and twisted it into a pain in the ass with no merit at all ...04:13
dwidmannIf I ever do have to touch .Net code please let it be C#, please?04:14
sayersCPrgmSwR2: I have Java books and kinda understand java, probably will ask him if I can do java and or Python instead of VB04:14
CPrgmSwR2if you can do java, then use eclipse04:14
flaccid0srule of thumb. don't do vb :)04:14
hitmanWillydwidmann: what, MS's attempt at embrace/extend with C?04:14
dwidmannor netbeans, it isn't particularly bad either04:14
dwidmannhitmanWilly: it's more like,  J#, there Java ripoff that they got sued for.04:15
dwidmannWith some changes04:15
dwidmann*their04:15
flaccid0sc# is really good04:15
sayersCPrgmSwR2: I like Netbeans more04:15
sayershow can i setup my filemanager to use konquerer isntead of dolphin04:15
dwidmannflaccid0s: which is why I say If I ever have to touch .Net code, please let it be C# ;)04:15
CPrgmSwR2I like eclpse more.. it doesn't feel all bloated04:15
flaccid0sdwidmann: i agree with you :)04:16
CPrgmSwR2even Microsofts VB.net resembles that of java04:16
dwidmannCPrgmSwR2: What an insult, poor, poor Java :(04:17
CPrgmSwR2I apologize java, and java is the one that really shifted programmers into writing very safe code04:18
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dwidmann2 gatorades later I'm finally starting to feel semi-hydrated again :)04:19
malik__hello ppl good afternoon from downunder04:19
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dwidmannmalik__: good night from up over :P04:19
BluesKajhey malik__04:20
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malik__hey BluesKaj04:20
dwidmannBluesKaj: I've been meaning to tell you something for oh, a couple of days now, an interesting thing with regards to sftp04:20
santiago_Hi everyone, can someone tell me how to swith the dialog buttons ( ok, cancel) in gtk applications ( eg: firefox, gvim) to match the KDE order?04:20
flaccid0sdwidmann: what is it04:20
BluesKajok dwidmann , fire away04:20
daSkreechkate apparently supports Kbasic but not Vbasic04:21
daSkreechor even basic basic :)04:21
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dwidmannBluesKaj: the ~1.2MBs transfer is actually a bug in KIO-fish/KIO-sftp ... running sftp in a shell produces much faster transfers04:21
stdinsantiago_: you can't really, it's designed that way04:21
mm_202Is there a decent video conference program for [K] Ubuntu?  Preferably something that would be able to conference with Windows too..04:21
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daSkreechmm_202: which program in windows?04:22
leandrohola a todos, alguien que hable en espaol?04:22
leandrofans de windows por aca? jaja04:22
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daSkreech!es | leandro04:22
ubotuleandro: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:22
santiago_stdin: I'm sure it's possible, I used to have them right in my previous distro, I just don't know how to set them04:22
mm_202daSkreech: umm, any.  Basically, I want to video conf with my gf, but she's on a Windows machine, she has Yahoo Messenger, MSNM, etc.  Netmeeting?04:22
Fusion_hi! would you guys know the repo for kbfx 0.4.9.3.1?04:22
mm_202But I just dont see a Linux program for that.04:23
TraXmm_202: Kopete should work for Yahoo04:23
daSkreechmm_202: kopete should be able to do Yahoo video04:23
mm_202Seems that Ekiga might be able to do that04:23
mm_202oh really?04:23
daSkreechand MSN to a lesser extent04:23
mm_202Sweet, okay.04:23
mm_202daSkreech, thank you, I'll play with it :)04:23
BluesKajhow about pidgin/04:23
daSkreechmm_202: You have to install jasper04:23
daSkreechlibjasper-runtime I think04:24
mm_202hmm, and what is it?04:24
daSkreechthe library that kopete uses to display webcam04:24
stdinFusion_: it's not available in feisty, it will be in gutsy04:24
mm_202ah, ok04:24
mm_202thank you.04:24
mm_202apt-get'ing now :)04:24
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Fusion_stdin: if i compile from source, would that upgrade my current one or would i have two?04:25
daSkreechFusion_: Two I think04:25
daSkreechYou could replace it but that's nasty04:25
Fusion_aarg!04:25
flaccid0sFusion_: two unless they use same file locations04:26
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daSkreechFusion_: Do a checkinstall04:26
stdinFusion_: if you compiled it from source and then made a .deb then it would update, otherwise no04:26
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Fusion_i wouldn't have the slightest idea how to make it into a deb :)04:26
dwidmanncheckinstall04:27
stdinpossibly checkinstall (although I personally don't like it)04:28
Arwen!packaging | Fusion_04:28
ubotuFusion_: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports04:28
dwidmannFusion_: "sudo apt-get install checkinstall; ./configure; make; make checkinstall04:28
dwidmann"04:28
Arwencheckinstall sucks in every possible way04:28
scheater5Anyone got the real time kernel from the gusty repos installed on Feisty04:28
dwidmannArwen: but it works minimally, which is all a person really needs for a one-time package.04:28
Arwenbreaks dependency resolving04:28
Arwenespecially reverse dependencies04:28
CPrgmSwR2Has anyone tried out openoffice.org 2.304:28
Arwenme04:28
Arwenit's ok04:28
CPrgmSwR2they have improved the start time quite a bit04:28
Fusion_thanks guys. i'll give it a shot04:29
stdinscheater5: you can follow http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-upgrade-kernel2622-9-generic-in-feisty-fawn.html04:29
CPrgmSwR2why is gutsy suppose to be release04:29
CPrgmSwR2released04:29
stdinCPrgmSwR2: why or when?04:29
dwidmannCPrgmSwR2: september, mid-september04:29
flaccid0s!gutsy04:29
stdin!gutsy04:29
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+104:29
scheater5stdin: I actually have seen and followed that to get the generic kernel installed, but I hit a dependency problem when I tried to install the real-time04:29
Jucatodwidmann: it's always april and october04:30
dwidmannor wait, not september, october ... that's what I mean, bah04:30
Jucato:P04:30
CPrgmSwR2interesting04:30
dwidmannIt's september now afterall04:30
CPrgmSwR2its as if ubuntu and fedora where planning on incorperating kde404:30
CPrgmSwR2but thats not going to happen now04:30
dwidmannCPrgmSwR2: won't be default not even in gutsy+1 ... maybe gutsy+204:30
stdinfedora maybe, kubuntu wasn't04:30
stdindwidmann: nope :p04:31
JucatoCPrgmSwR2: kubuntu never planned that until gutsy+2 (8.10)04:31
CPrgmSwR2oh04:31
stdindwidmann: shame, tho there will be packages I'm sure04:31
dwidmannIn other words, a  year and two months away ....04:31
Jucatothere will be packages of course04:31
dwidmannstdin: there better be :)04:31
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Jucatoit just won't be the default until 8.1004:31
stdinI'm sure there will be, I'll make them if not :p04:31
dwidmannstdin: then again, there's always that fact that there already are.04:32
CPrgmSwR2is there a way to install openoffice.org 2.3 on fiesty04:32
Fusion_would the gutsy backports have the latest kbfx?04:32
stdinCPrgmSwR2: I doubt it, not without having some unholy mix of feisty and gutsy04:32
dwidmannCPrgmSwR2: might be able to download the packages from gutsy and install them, ymmv04:32
CPrgmSwR2oh04:32
stdinFusion_: it's not in feisty-backports no04:32
daSkreechJucato: and a CD!!04:33
dwidmannstdin: there was a period there for two or three weeks where I was running just that :P04:33
JucatodaSkreech: that all depends. only the packages are 100% sure04:33
CPrgmSwR2That is one draw back to kubuntu is that you upgrade all at once not over time like in gentoo04:33
dmkanyone running kde4 beta on feisty?04:33
CPrgmSwR2me04:33
scheater5So no one knows why I would be able to upgrade the generic and not the real time kernel?04:33
Fusion_stdin: in gutsy-backports?04:33
JucatoUbuntu never was about rolling releases :)04:33
dmkis there a lot more cpu consumption ?, im on a 550MHz04:34
stdinFusion_: gutsy-backports is empty, nothing to backport to gutsy yet04:34
CPrgmSwR2dmk: there should be less04:34
CPrgmSwR2because qt4 uses less memory04:34
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daSkreechJucato: Me wants CD!!04:34
Jucatoyou makes CD!04:34
Jucato:P04:34
CPrgmSwR2dmk: why, does it seem slow04:34
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dmki havent installed yet04:35
dmki was going to do a little research first04:35
CPrgmSwR2oh, I am actually using svn copy04:35
dmkif it supposedly runs faster i will try it04:35
CPrgmSwR2dmk: its not worth downloading yet04:35
stdindmk: kde3 and kde4 will be kept separate, you will still use kde3 by default04:35
CPrgmSwR2as its not really usable04:35
CPrgmSwR2but it does look really neat04:35
Jucatostdin: for now...04:36
dmki have low hdd space also, how do i install as default and remove kde3 at the same time ?04:36
dwidmannI have 280mb to download before I can run kde4 ... seeing as it'll be a couple days till the next beta is out I'm not even going to bother to upgrade now ... I'll save my bandwidth ... seeing as it'll take me a couple days to get it :(04:36
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dwidmanndmk: that's probably not the best course of action atm04:36
CPrgmSwR2dmk: how much hard drive space do you have?04:36
dmkCPrgmSwR2: if its not really sable i might install alongside kde304:36
Jucatodwidmann: if you're installing from svn, only the first download is heavy. subsequent updates are not that big04:36
CPrgmSwR2dmk: its not stable04:36
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dmkCPrgmSwR2: im gonna check the installed size and if i have room ill  try it04:37
CPrgmSwR2dmk: its very difficult to even run programs in kde4 right now04:37
stdindmk: you can't use kde4 as default right now, and I don't see why you'd want to04:37
Jucatounless you're a developer of sorts04:37
stdindmk: unless, that is, you like things crashing all the time :p04:37
dwidmannJucato: , true, I suppose I *could* install from svn instead. it'll be more trouble but I suppose it would make more sense.... My biggest problem is that I'll be FAPd before I can finish the download.04:37
dmki ran debian sid for 5 years so im used to it, lol04:37
CPrgmSwR2dmk: yeah but are you use to now task switcher and an unsuable panel04:38
Biovoredmk: Sid stuff works compared to svn of kde404:38
Jucatodwidmann: building from svn didn't take me more than 5 hours last friday iirc04:38
CPrgmSwR2now = no04:38
dwidmannfunny, I found debian sid to be relatively stable when I used it ...04:38
Jucatothe download was the longest,04:38
Biovorekde4 is uber buggy at m04:38
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CPrgmSwR2kde4 infact is so buggy right now they pushed the release date back to december04:38
dmksid was constantly broken04:38
dwidmannJucato: what are your specs?04:38
Biovoredmk: I know.. I ran sid for a long time as well..04:39
Jucato1.5Ghz? 512kbps bandwidth04:39
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Biovoredmk: don;t bother with kde4 right now unless you know QT4 and are a developer04:39
dwidmannJucato: model of processor?04:39
JucatoAMD sempron 220004:39
dmki think ill take that advice and wait for the stable release04:39
Jucatoyes, wise thing to do :)04:40
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CPrgmSwR2dmk: still here04:40
dwidmannJucato: hmm, my laptop should be able to do it in about 2 hours or so then ... it's getting it that is the hard part. Maybe I should find a hotspot to leach off of ....04:40
dmkit is tempting though, i really like kde and cant wait to see the improvements/bugs04:40
CPrgmSwR2dmk: there is a livecd of kde4 that you can burn if you just want to check it out04:40
dmkon kde's site ?04:40
CPrgmSwR2yes04:40
Jucatodmk: you might want to wait for the KDE 4 Live CD (using openSUSE) then04:41
dmkthanks, im gonna check that out04:41
Jucatoit's not an official KDE CD though04:41
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CPrgmSwR2http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/04:41
CPrgmSwR2there it is04:41
dmkcool, much appreciated04:41
daSkreechdmk: if you can't wait to see the bugs just svn up :)04:41
BluesKajJucato, i already tried the suse live cd ...couldn't load , hardware driver failure04:41
dmklol, i think im gonna try the live cd04:42
CPrgmSwR2daSkreech: he has hard drive issues04:42
JucatoBluesKaj: heh how unlucky :P04:42
dwidmannJucato: darn, even getting just the build deps for kdebase is 180mb04:42
CPrgmSwR2dmk: also note that beta2 is just days away04:42
Jucatodwidmann: build-deps? what?!?!04:42
BluesKajyeah, think I still have the cd-rw around04:42
dmkis it going to be available via apt  ?04:42
dwidmannJucato: build deps. yes. "sudo apt-get build-dep kde4base"04:43
Jucatodmk: what is?04:43
Jucatodwidmann: O.o04:43
CPrgmSwR2is kde4 going to available via apt04:43
Jucatomaking life harder for yourself, I see... :P04:43
dwidmannCPrgmSwR2: it already is04:43
CPrgmSwR2oh04:43
CPrgmSwR2I didn't know that04:43
Jucatoat least beta1 and alpha# something04:43
dmki wasnt aware of that04:43
dwidmannJucato: I'm a glutton for punisment :P04:44
stdinCPrgmSwR2: see the /topic04:44
CPrgmSwR2I use the svn copy04:44
dmkkdebase4 ?04:44
CPrgmSwR2oh04:44
JucatoCPrgmSwR2: you're better off with building your own for now04:44
dwidmanndmk: think it's kde4base04:44
dmkduh, lol04:44
stdindmk: there is a link in the channel topic that give instructions04:44
Jucatodmk: see the last link in the channel topic04:45
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Jucatobe warned: it's for developers only for a reason :)04:45
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Jucatodwidmann: if you follow the guide from http://techbase.kde.org your life would be much easier04:46
CPrgmSwR2what do I download in order to get flash support from apt-get04:46
Jucatoyou would only need to apt-get about 20+ packages (less than 40 definitely)04:46
JucatoCPrgmSwR2: flashplugin-nonfree04:46
dwidmannJucato: I shall, just as soon as I have some of the build deps out of the way ....04:46
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dwidmannJucato: that'll use up all of my bandwidth and then some, I'll have to finish that download tomorrow morning actually04:47
Jucatodwidmann: you don't need builddeps!!!04:47
Jucatooh well your call...04:47
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Jucatodwidmann: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE404:48
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CPrgmSwR2http://youtube.com/watch?v=vJRu6PiZ_5M04:48
CPrgmSwR2you can see kde4 without downloading it04:48
Jucatoheh04:49
dwidmannbah, screencasts don't count.04:49
CPrgmSwR2lol04:49
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Okapihello to all04:50
Okapitoday I am completely disappointed by Feist...04:50
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daSkreechCPrgmSwR2: the time those take to upload they are probably out of date :)04:51
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CPrgmSwR2Okapi: what happened04:51
Daisuke_Laptopwell THAT was educational04:51
OkapiSince this morning I am trrying to recovery my machine but no luck04:51
CPrgmSwR2It crashed?04:51
OkapiI had a Kernel panic error and since then....04:51
CPrgmSwR2What is the kernel panic error04:51
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Daisuke_Laptopnever upgrade libdecoration0 without upgrading the rest of compiz -_-04:52
OkapiI really do not know..try some research on google but no luck.04:52
dwidmannJucato: I find this funny. First step in the article was installing build deps :P04:52
Jucatodwidmann: not the apt-get build-dep kind of installing build deps04:52
Daisuke_Laptoppanels weren't showing up -_-04:52
Okapithe worse part I just reboot my machine and voila...Kernel Panic!04:53
dwidmannJucato: same sort of deal, installs a plethora of -dev packages.04:53
CPrgmSwR2Okapi: can you get the error message that goes with Kernel Panic04:53
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OkapiI have this error when I start my pc: Kernet panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0). Any one can help?04:53
Jucatodwidmann: but 1) less than what you you're doing right now and 2) only the necesssary stuff04:54
Jucatobut like I said, your call :)04:54
dwidmannJucato: I have a feeling sometime later I'm going to regret having cancelled that to follow this article (which I would have inevitably had to go find for step 2 ...)04:54
OkapiNow, after fsck for trying to repare my hard drive...the error change.04:55
Daisuke_LaptopKermit panic!  Fatal pig violation04:55
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OkapiI do not have the installation disk for Feist..04:55
CPrgmSwR2Okapi: do you have any linux live cd?04:55
OkapiI do not have an empty cd to copy one...04:55
Okapiyes i do04:55
CPrgmSwR2So you can make another live cd of Fiesty?04:56
daSkreechDaisuke_Laptop: >_<04:56
OkapiI have the Kubuntu 6.0604:56
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Daisuke_LaptopdaSkreech: i'm just happy to have figured out that a borked upgrade hosed gnome04:56
Daisuke_Laptop(well, gnome's panels)04:56
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CPrgmSwR2Okapi: also what where you last doing before you restarted your computer04:57
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OkapiCPrgmSwR2: I was downloading some software from Azureus and amule..04:58
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CPrgmSwR2Okapi: do you have any important files?05:00
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OkapiCPrgmSwR2: not really..05:00
_2what's an important file ?05:00
CPrgmSwR2Its possible to resolve the issue, but in your case it would be faster to just re-install05:00
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: please do not make me reinstall it05:01
CPrgmSwR2okay05:01
_2okapi  what issue ?05:01
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: now I put the livecd On and it is booting..05:01
CPrgmSwR2okay05:01
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CPrgmSwR2do you have more than one hard drive Okapi?>05:02
Okapi_2: I have kernel panic error and can not but Feist anymore05:02
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: no...just one05:02
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CPrgmSwR2okay05:02
CPrgmSwR2Kernet panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)05:03
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CPrgmSwR2this his kernel panic message05:03
_2Okapi you need to rebuild the initramfs image05:03
OkapiI have this error when I start my pc: Kernet panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0). Any one can help?05:03
Okapi_2: please be more specific and tell me how..05:04
CPrgmSwR2Okapi: did you get the livecd booted05:05
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: it all most there...Gnome loading05:05
_2Okapi  mount the root of the installed os  sudo chroot <mountpoint> mkinitramfs -o /boot/ram*<version> <version>    <<<< intrepret all within <>05:06
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CPrgmSwR2_2: I think you have to be a little more specific than that for Okapi05:06
Okapi_2: yes..please05:07
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: livecd is on..05:07
CPrgmSwR2Okapi: you going to open a terminal under applications menu then accessories05:07
CPrgmSwR2once you have the terminal open05:07
CPrgmSwR2type # sudo passwd root05:07
YorokobiWhy would you set a password for root on a LiveCD?05:08
CPrgmSwR2and give it a password for now, its only going to stick with the livecd and will be gone when you reboot05:08
CPrgmSwR2Yorokobi: so you can work as root05:08
Daisuke_Laptopand your other option is to, hey, NOT set a root password and just use sudo like a sane person.05:08
Yorokobisudo -s, problem solved; no password required.05:08
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: done05:08
Yorokobior sudo -i05:09
Yorokobior su -05:09
daSkreechYorokobi: Sudo -i05:09
CPrgmSwR2I find that sudo stuff doesn't work sometimes05:09
Daisuke_Laptopum05:09
CPrgmSwR2and rather annoying at times05:09
Daisuke_Laptophuh?05:09
Daisuke_Laptopsudo -i or sudo -s05:09
CPrgmSwR2what does sudo -i and sudo -s do?05:09
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: what next?05:10
Yorokobi-i gives you a login shell as root, -s just changes you to root05:10
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daSkreechCPrgmSwR2: sudo -i gives you a root console that times out05:10
CPrgmSwR2sudo mkdir /mnt/kubuntu05:10
CPrgmSwR2and sudo -s?05:10
Daisuke_Laptop-s changes you to root05:10
Jucatoman:/sudo :)05:10
CPrgmSwR2Oh I didn't know that05:10
Daisuke_Laptopwithout the whole root account problem05:11
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: done05:11
CPrgmSwR2okay05:11
JucatoI think sudo -i is like su -, and sudo -s is like plain su05:11
CPrgmSwR2now type sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/kubuntu05:11
CPrgmSwR2I am still use to the gentoo way of doing things05:12
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: done05:12
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CPrgmSwR2Okapi: next type # sudo chroot /mnt/kubuntu /bin/bash05:12
osirishow would i go about disabling startup services on a headless server.  what is the file i need to edit again ?05:13
Yorokobiosiris, headless? No monitor?05:13
osirisno05:13
daSkreechosiris: you need to read up on SysV05:13
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osirisi thought it was just a file, i comment out an entry in05:14
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intelikeyosiris ^ if it's sysV and not 'upstart'   use update-rc.d05:14
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Yorokobiosiris, most (not all) services have a start/stop script in /etc/init.d/ that you can add 'exit 0' to the 2nd line to disable.05:14
intelikeyif it's upstart then  idk05:14
daSkreechintelikey: Right I keep forgetting about upstart :(05:14
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OkapiCPrgmSwR2: error, cannot run command "/bin/bash": no such file or directory.05:15
stdinintelikey: upstart used init scripts too05:15
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osiristhe second line ofthe starup script found in/etc/init.d right ?05:15
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intelikeystdin i'll have to take your word on that.   i've never seen upstart yet05:15
osirisi dont want exim4 starting05:15
Yorokobiosiris, right after the #!/bin/sh line05:16
CPrgmSwR2How do you chroot on a kubuntu install05:16
intelikeyosiris no.05:16
CPrgmSwR2thats weird05:16
intelikeyyou don't want to go editing scripts just to turn off a service.05:16
stdinintelikey: well it's backwards compatible05:16
daSkreechCPrgmSwR2: umm05:16
CPrgmSwR2I think I mounted the wrong partition05:16
daSkreechCPrgmSwR2: chroot /path/to/dir ?05:16
Yorokobiintelikey, very true, but it works in a crunch (but fails on service upgrade) :)05:16
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intelikeystdin would you please tell osiris about update-rc.d05:17
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CPrgmSwR2Do I mount hda1 or hda5?05:17
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: I do not thing, because that another error I am getting now after fsck..05:17
stdinosiris: use "sudo update-rc.d Service remove" to stop a service from starting05:17
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CPrgmSwR2oh no05:17
CPrgmSwR2Okapi: please don't run fsck05:17
CPrgmSwR2That can delete your harddrive05:18
CPrgmSwR2while drives are mounted05:18
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OkapiCPrgmSwR2: I did that this afternoon...I was desperate..05:18
intelikeyyeah don't fsck it up if it's mounted05:18
stdinosiris: (replacing "Service" with the name of the service of course)05:18
osirissudo update-rc.d exim4 remove05:18
osirisupdate-rc.d: /etc/init.d/exim4 exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)05:18
CPrgmSwR2Okapi type this # umount /mnt/kubuntu05:19
stdinosiris: yeah, add the -f there05:19
CPrgmSwR2then type # mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/kubuntu05:19
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stdinosiris: sudo update-rc.d -f exim4 remove05:19
osiristhat worked05:19
osiristhank you VERY much05:19
stdinosiris: that will keep the script there (should you want to manually start it too)05:19
osirisi want it totally gone05:20
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osirisi have no need for it, as i just need sshd, http and ftp on it05:20
intelikeythen remove the package05:20
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osirisi thought i DID, and it was still starting05:20
stdinosiris: then remove the package with "apt-get --purge remove exim4"05:20
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osirissaid not installed, so not removed05:21
osirisweird, eh ?05:21
intelikey!info exim405:21
ubotuexim4: metapackage to ease exim MTA (v4) installation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.63-11build1 (feisty), package size 2 kB, installed size 48 kB05:21
stdinosiris: have you removed exim4-base too ?05:21
osirisrunning dapper btw05:21
dwidmannHm, I've got a curious/odd question. Can Amarok use fish:/ or sftp:/ directories for its collection?05:21
stdin(as exim4-base is the package with the init script in it)05:22
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: error, can't find /dev/hda5/mnt/kubuntu05:22
osirisstdin, THATS it05:22
osiristhanks again05:22
intelikeyapt-get --purge remove exim4-base05:22
Okapils05:22
CPrgmSwR2Okapi there is a space between hda5 and /mnt05:23
stdindwidmann: I don't thinks so, I tried it a while ago and it gave some error. (use sshfs to "mount" the directory over ssh, it rocKs)05:23
CPrgmSwR2so it reads #mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/kubuntu05:23
intelikeycan't find /dev/hda5/mnt/kubuntu <<< space05:23
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dwidmannstdin: thanks for the tip, I'll try that if I need to do it in the future05:23
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: error, /dev/hda5 looks like swapspace - not mounted05:24
stdindwidmann: I'm actually streaming my music over ssh and playing it with amarok this very second :p05:24
CPrgmSwR2okay05:24
hydrogendwidmann: no05:24
intelikeycat /proc/partitions05:24
intelikeydon't flood.05:24
dwidmannintelikey: here I'd avoided ssh up until recently because I feared it might be more difficult to set up. Here I set it up the other day and man was I in for a surprise ..... only wish I'd have known it was so much easier to use ssh than anything else sooner.05:25
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CPrgmSwR2Okapi: re-type #umount /mnt/kubuntu05:25
CPrgmSwR2wait05:25
CPrgmSwR2that is not nessary05:25
osirisjust out of curiosity, why would i need kgameportd running ?05:25
CPrgmSwR2type in #mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/kubuntu05:26
intelikeydwidmann you should have asked.    you can pretty much rest assured that if i'm using it it's pretty easy to use.05:26
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: done05:26
CPrgmSwR2okay now type # ls /mnt/kubuntu05:26
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OkapiCPrgmSwR2: done05:27
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CPrgmSwR2do you get a list of directories05:27
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: yes05:27
dwidmannintelikey: the thing is, samba used to work well for me ... then it seemed to break in feisty ...... First I tried to try nfs and it really is a PITA to set up, forget what made me try ssh but I'm glad I did.05:27
CPrgmSwR2is there one with /boot and another with /etc and another with /dev?05:27
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: yes05:28
CPrgmSwR2is there one with /bin05:28
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: yes05:28
intelikeydwidmann hmmmm well maybe i better rethink that.   i didn't have any trubble with nfs...05:29
CPrgmSwR2what does # ls /mnt/kubuntu/bin/bash give you?05:29
CPrgmSwR2it should output bash05:29
intelikeyoh static ips  and i bet you use dhcp05:29
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: is this my old directories or not?05:29
CPrgmSwR2thats your files05:29
intelikeydwidmann yeah dhcp would make it harder i think05:29
CPrgmSwR2you are looking at /05:29
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dwidmannintelikey: a weird combo of the two right now, static dhcp.05:29
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CPrgmSwR2chroot is suppose to put you inside your installation05:30
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: ok, because I had them before i mount kubuntu...05:30
daSkreechsudo chroot /mnt/kubuntu05:30
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dsmith"abiword abiword-common abiword-plugins anthy gnumeric-common gnumeric-gtk gqview" anyof this have kubuntu-desktop dependencies?05:30
CPrgmSwR2daSkreech: the /bin/bash is not nessary?05:30
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dwidmannThe problem I ran into actually is that it was refusing the connections, yet I know it worked ... tested it by mounting localhost first.05:30
Jucatodsmith: most likely not. those are GTK/GNOME apps05:31
daSkreechCPrgmSwR2: I've never used it :)05:31
dwidmanndsmith: no05:31
daSkreechCPrgmSwR2: it just kinda finds it05:31
intelikeydsmith i wouldn't think so.   why would it depend on a meta package ?05:31
stdindsmith: "apt-cache rdepends <package>" will tell you05:31
dsmiththen why did kubuntu-desktop try to emove itself05:31
dsmithhmmmmmmmm05:31
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: do you want me to try daskreech suggestion?05:31
CPrgmSwR2Okapi: try typeing sudo chroot /mnt/kubuntu05:31
dwidmanndsmith: because apt-get can be weird sometimes. Probably a different problem.05:32
intelikeydsmith you removed abiword and it took kubuntu-desktop with it ???05:32
dsmithi am cleaning off xubuntu05:32
dsmithwell I have this huge remove list and I noticed kubuntu-desktop pkg removed05:32
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dsmithi reinstalled it with a few others05:33
dsmithRemoving kubuntu-desktop ...05:33
dsmithRemoving language-selector-qt ...05:33
dsmithRemoving adept ...05:33
dsmithRemoving adept-batch ...05:33
dwidmannkubuntu-desktop depends on adept05:33
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OkapiCPrgmSwR2: error, chroot: cannot run command '/bin/bash': No such file or directory05:33
Jucato!paste | dsmith05:33
ubotudsmith: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:33
dsmithoh I forgot about pastbin05:33
CPrgmSwR2Okapi: type in # ls /mnt/kubuntu/bin/bash05:34
CPrgmSwR2did that give you bash as an output05:34
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OkapiCPrgmSwR2: error, No such file or directory05:35
CPrgmSwR2ouch05:35
dsmithhere is my list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36140/05:35
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: please, do not give up...05:35
CPrgmSwR2you have no bash05:35
dsmithintelikey: meta pkg?05:35
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intelikeydsmith kubuntu-desktop05:35
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: what is that mean?05:36
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CPrgmSwR2what does # ls /mnt/kubuntu/bin give you05:36
Jucatodsmith: might because libxine1 is being removed too?05:36
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dwidmannooh boy, looks like my laptops going to get a good chance to heat up now :\05:36
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OkapiCPrgmSwR2: error, No such file or directory05:36
daSkreechProbably chrooted already05:37
CPrgmSwR2what does # ls /mnt/kubuntu give you05:37
dwidmanndsmith: a metapackage is a package with nothing in it that depends on other packages.05:37
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dsmithdwidmann: oh ok05:37
Jucatodsmith: as well as scim I think05:37
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dsmithJucato: I am picking through the list for the ones I know for sure05:37
intelikeyregress maybe05:37
CPrgmSwR2regress?05:38
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CPrgmSwR2huh05:38
intelikeyis he in the chroot looking for the mountpoint ?05:38
CPrgmSwR2intelikey: I am trying to figure that out05:39
intelikeyhave him issue mount05:39
CPrgmSwR2if he is in the mountpoint then /mnt/kubuntu should come up as no file found05:39
intelikeyif mount outputs anyting besides errors he's not.05:39
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CPrgmSwR2he has already mounted /dev/hda1 to /mnt/kubuntu05:39
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: I type cd /bin and there is bash file in there....do you need /mnt/kubuntu/bin/bash?05:39
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CPrgmSwR2Okapi: do me a favor type in # mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/kubuntu on more time05:40
intelikey...     that's not what i meant.05:40
CPrgmSwR2then what did you mean intelikey?05:41
intelikeymount05:41
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CPrgmSwR2oh05:41
intelikeyif it errors he's in the chroot05:41
CPrgmSwR2oops05:41
intelikeyif not it will list the mounted fs's05:41
CPrgmSwR2Okapi: sorry just type in mount then05:41
CPrgmSwR2intelikey: good idea05:41
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: done05:41
CPrgmSwR2what did mount give you?05:42
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stdinintelikey: it probably won't error, just print the wrong info05:42
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: couple of message of what is mounted...Are you looking for something specific?05:43
intelikeystdin not unless he bind'd proc   it will error with can't read mtab or proc05:43
stdinintelikey: it'll read mtab05:43
CPrgmSwR2Okapi: I am tring to get you instead your install so you can run dmesg05:43
CPrgmSwR2there is another way though05:43
stdinintelikey: I just tried it05:43
intelikeystdin did they stop cleaning mtab or halt/reboot ?05:43
stdinintelikey: seems that way, my /feisty/etc/mtab has the old mounts05:44
intelikeyah man...    that figures.05:44
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intelikeyok i'll hush then.05:44
stdinheh05:44
CPrgmSwR2Okapi: what does cat /mnt/kubuntu/var/log/dmesg give you05:45
stdinin pastebin, as it may be quite large ^05:45
CPrgmSwR2ooops05:45
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: ok here what i have: unionfs on / type unionfs (rw),  proc on /proc type proc (rw), /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw)05:45
intelikeythat's the CD05:45
CPrgmSwR2okay05:45
CPrgmSwR2intelikey: the other problem is that /bin/bash could have been deleted by fsck05:46
CPrgmSwR2Okapi: ran that earlier today05:46
intelikeyyes i see that.05:46
intelikeyfind /mnt/ -iname bash05:47
intelikeylets test the theory05:47
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: big file with bunch of error...05:47
dwidmannCPrgmSwR2: that would be an awfully choosey thing to delete. Whose luck is that bad?05:47
CPrgmSwR2okay05:47
CPrgmSwR2Okapi: can you paste the contents to Okapi: http://www.rafb.net/paste/05:47
CPrgmSwR2and then paste the link to this chat room05:47
CPrgmSwR2intelikey the interesting thing is that he found dmesg05:48
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: ok..give me a minute..05:48
CPrgmSwR2which says /bin/bash may very will be missing05:48
intelikeyCPrgmSwR2 don't over look my favorite error.    "typo"05:48
CPrgmSwR2yeah thats true05:48
CPrgmSwR2but it still doesn't explain why chroot fails05:49
intelikeymissing bash does.05:49
CPrgmSwR2yep05:49
intelikeyCPrgmSwR2 well actually yes typo can explain chroot failure also05:50
CPrgmSwR2okay05:50
stdinyou don't need to specify /bin/bash with chroot anyway05:50
CPrgmSwR2chroot /mnt/kubuntu still gave the error no /bin/bash05:50
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CPrgmSwR2even though /bin/bash was not specified05:51
intelikeysduo chroot /mnt/something  /bin/bash   <<< fails05:51
stdinand ls /mnt/kubuntu/bin/bash shows it?05:51
CPrgmSwR2but it would say unknown command sduo05:51
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CPrgmSwR2stdin: no05:51
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: ok..//rafb.net/p/CkXRyo97.html05:52
intelikeystdin not unless he typoed05:52
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CPrgmSwR2ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ cat /mnt/kubuntu/var/log/dmesg05:52
intelikeystdin that's where it stands right now.   missing bash unless he's of key on something.05:52
CPrgmSwR2he typed it right05:52
CPrgmSwR2Okapi: is that all of dmesg05:53
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CPrgmSwR2or did it get cut off05:53
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OkapiCPrgmSwR2: yes05:53
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CPrgmSwR2Okapi: I just want to double check this that /mnt/kubuntu/bin/bash turns up no file found?05:55
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CPrgmSwR2you can type in # ls /mnt/kubuntu/bin/bash to confirm this05:55
CPrgmSwR2intelikey I think his entire /bin directory is gone05:55
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: ok..let me try it again..05:55
intelikeyfor Q in /mnt/*/lost+found/+ ;do file $Q | grep "LSB executable" ;done05:55
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OkapiCPrgmSwR2: error, No such file or directory05:57
CPrgmSwR2Okapi: yeah type in # for Q in /mnt/*/lost+found/+ ;do file $Q | grep "LSB executable" ;done05:57
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dwidmannBOOM!!!05:58
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Jucatopong05:58
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TraXintelikey: If you want an explosion do sudo rm -rf05:58
CPrgmSwR2TraX: if you want a explosion type in fsck -y05:59
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intelikeyTraX what would : > /dev/nvram   do?05:59
dwidmannTraX:  you forget the trailing forward slash05:59
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: done05:59
hydrogenno no no05:59
hydrogenif you want a real explosion05:59
CPrgmSwR2Okapi: did anything come up05:59
dwidmannIf you want a real explosion, put your silverware in the microwave.06:00
hydrogencat /dev/random > /dev/hza06:00
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: no, just a prompt..06:00
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CPrgmSwR2thats a good sign06:00
intelikeyi concure06:00
CPrgmSwR2I don't think the * works unless your in the parent directory06:00
intelikeysure it does06:00
CPrgmSwR2why does cd ~/pr*/ka* not work06:01
CPrgmSwR2but cd ~/programming/kapp4-0.1 work06:01
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intelikeyCPrgmSwR2 test ls /*bin/06:01
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: I think i miss something...LSB executable...06:01
hydrogenCPrgmSwR2: probably because multiple things match one or both of those?06:01
politikI'm trying to login to my box and I'm using gdm. However when I enter my user/pass, kde/gnome doesn't start, I just get the username prompt again. The password is correct, because if I type it wrong, I get an error. Any ideas?06:02
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intelikeyOkapi part of the output if your bash executable had been found.   what's what the test was looking for06:02
intelikeypolitik several.   but the best way to test is drop to a console and run "startx" to see what is failing06:04
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intelikeythen bring me the   EE  message06:04
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Okapiintellikey: i am just following what CPrgmSwR2 asking me to do..06:04
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intelikeyOkapi yes i know.  jsut answering your Q about the string i gave him to give you.06:05
CPrgmSwR2intelikey: I tired typing in cd pr*ka* and it said no such file or diretory06:05
politikintelikey: actually I simplified my explanation a little. I am remotely logging into this box, by running an X server on another machine06:05
CPrgmSwR2intelikey type this ls /bi*/ba*06:05
politikI can login to the box just fine, locally06:05
Okapiintellikey: oh..okay..06:05
intelikeytty24 [root@~]  ls  /bi*/ba*06:05
politikbut I don't see how that makes a difference06:05
intelikey /bin/bash06:06
Okapiintellikey: do you think I miss type it?06:06
intelikeypolitik oh.   then disreguard what i said.06:06
CPrgmSwR2Okapi: when you type in #ls /mnt/kubuntu06:06
CPrgmSwR2do you get a bunch of files listed? and is ther one that says bin?06:06
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intelikeyOkapi only you can see if it's typed correctly or not...   not i.06:07
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: I do not have the regular prompt anymore...06:07
intelikey^X06:08
intelikey^C06:08
intelikeyi mean06:08
CPrgmSwR2yeah control+c06:08
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: ok06:08
politikwhy the * should remote logins be difficult... it should act just like a local login06:08
intelikeythat's  [ctrl] +[C] 06:08
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: yes06:08
intelikeypolitik cause remote login is disabled ?   in the /etc/gdm/gdm.comf file maybe ?06:09
CPrgmSwR2yes to both?06:09
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: yes06:09
CPrgmSwR2okay thats better06:09
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: let me open my Jack daniels botle...:)06:10
CPrgmSwR2okay06:10
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: i am back06:10
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CPrgmSwR2k06:11
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CPrgmSwR2I was going to have you re-install the kernel, but I can't without you being able to preform a chroot06:11
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Okapichroot06:12
CPrgmSwR2Okapi: it appears your /bin/bash file is missing06:12
intelikeychroot06:12
stdinCPrgmSwR2: have you determined if /bin/sh is there ?06:12
CPrgmSwR2no06:12
stdinCPrgmSwR2: you can use sh as the shell, instead of basj06:13
stdinbash *06:13
intelikeybetter -l that   cause the link will probably exist and point to bash06:13
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: if I type ls /bin...I can see bash06:13
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CPrgmSwR2Okapi: thats because it pulls it from the livecd06:13
CPrgmSwR2Okapi: see there is two /bin directories06:13
CPrgmSwR2one at /06:13
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CPrgmSwR2and the other at /mnt/kubuntu/bin06:13
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CPrgmSwR2when you type in /mnt/kubuntu, that is pulling from the hard drive not from the livecd06:14
intelikeysix but who's counting06:14
CPrgmSwR2And you need to have a /bin/bash on your hard drive06:15
intelikey /bin /usr/bin /usr/local/bin /mnt/kubuntu/bin /mnt/kubuntu/usr/bin /mnt/kubuntu/usr/local/bin     six.   heh.06:15
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: i type cd /mnt/kubuntu/bin and ls /bin and I still have the bash06:15
intelikeyooops sorry   ;)06:15
stdinintelikey: well, I have ~/bin too :p06:16
CPrgmSwR2Okapi type in cd /mnt/kubuntu06:16
CPrgmSwR2and then type ls bin06:16
intelikeyOkapi that's cause you are still looking in the same /bin dir06:16
CPrgmSwR2Okapi: when you put a / before the path it starts from the top06:16
intelikeystdin me too.  but that's non-default  and i kinda suspect a default dir struct06:16
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: ok..So do you have anything else in your mind...how to install the kernel?06:17
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=== intelikey never understoot that concept. the root dir is the top level of the dir tree hehhe roots are the bottom not the top...
CPrgmSwR2LOL06:18
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CPrgmSwR2intelikey: you know I never thought about that06:18
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: please do not be offended...06:18
intelikeyand pie are not square, corn bread are square, pie are round!06:18
CPrgmSwR2intelikey don't roots point downwars as they spread out06:18
CPrgmSwR2so the top of a root would be the smallest point06:19
daSkreechEverything springs from the root06:19
CPrgmSwR2as the top of the directory is the smalllest point06:19
daSkreechintelikey: does that help?06:19
CPrgmSwR2Okapi: I am kinda not sure what to do at this point06:19
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CPrgmSwR2I have never encountered an issue with /bin/bash not being there06:19
intelikeydaSkreech but the roots are still not on top unless the tree is upside down06:19
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: wow..06:19
daSkreechintelikey: some orchids have the roots at the top06:20
daSkreechand they are pretty and valualbe06:20
daSkreechjust like linux :)06:20
daSkreechpicky too06:20
intelikeylol06:20
CPrgmSwR2lol06:20
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: ok..tel me what is the command to install the kernel?06:20
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CPrgmSwR2sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.10-5-38606:21
CPrgmSwR2sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.10-5-38606:21
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i0nC4nn0n|homehello06:21
intelikeyCPrgmSwR2 maybe     sudo cp /bin/bash /mnt/kubuntu/bin ;sudo chroot /mnt/kubuntu/06:21
CPrgmSwR2hmmm06:21
CPrgmSwR2that could work06:21
i0nC4nn0n|homeforgive my bad english / stupidity... how do i get amarok to play mp3s?06:21
CPrgmSwR2# sudo cp /bin/bash /mnt/kubuntu/bin06:22
intelikey!mp306:22
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:22
CPrgmSwR2# sudo chroot /mnt/kubuntu06:22
stdini0nC4nn0n|home: install the "libxine-extracodecs" package06:22
CPrgmSwR2Okapi: you there06:22
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: yes  and done06:23
CPrgmSwR2both commands?06:23
i0nC4nn0n|homethx stdin06:23
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: no..let go for the chroot06:23
politikintelikey: something is strange because gdm.conf shows Enabled=false in the [xdmcp]  section, but I know that xdmcp is on06:23
CPrgmSwR2okay06:23
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intelikeypolitik there is another file in the same dir.  that the gui app writes the configs to    i dont recall off the top of my head the name    gdm.conf-user   or something.06:24
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: error: chroot: cannot run command '/bin/bash': Not a directory.06:25
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intelikeypolitik have a look in it. it over rides those settings..06:25
stdinOkapi: make sure you put in "sudo chroot /mnt/kubuntu"06:25
CPrgmSwR2did you type exactly # sudo chroot /mnt/kubuntu06:26
politikintelikey: I see, nice. xdmcp is enabled there06:26
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: error: chroot: cannot run command '/bin/bash': Not a directory.06:26
politikso now I have no idea whats wrong06:26
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intelikeypolitik that's about the end of my knowledge on that subject     hope you don't require more...06:27
CPrgmSwR2type in # find /f06:27
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intelikey???06:27
politikI can see the gdm screen, and I can enter user/pass, the problem is just that gnome doesn't start after I enter the pass06:27
effacei downloaded a theme for kde and when i try to use it it doesnt do anything06:27
effacemost my themes dont do anything06:27
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intelikeyCPrgmSwR2  find /f  ???06:27
CPrgmSwR2nevermind that06:28
mileshi06:28
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CPrgmSwR2intelikey: I was looking at a website06:28
politikwhat determines what happens after I type in my pass in gdm?06:28
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ryanshecklerhey guys its me ryan06:29
CPrgmSwR2I don't get it06:29
intelikeypam is called to auth you and several scripts are ran politik    but i'll have to defer to more sava' people06:29
CPrgmSwR2Okapi: what does #ls /mnt/kubuntu/bin/bash give you?06:29
albertmkI need help to install my NVidia in my Kubuntu06:30
ryansheckleralbertmk - dont use the driver from the ubuntu repos06:30
albertmkwhy not?06:30
politikso I guess pam is successful, because my password isn't rejected06:30
albertmkso how can I do that without apt-get...06:30
effacecan someone please tell me why my kde themes wont load?06:30
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: error: NOt a directory06:30
intelikeypolitik that would be a good assumption  yes06:31
CPrgmSwR2ls doesn't produce that type of error06:31
ryansheckleralbertmk - sorry i was watching TV06:31
ryansheckleralbertmk - first,  i have heard stories about the driver in the repos causing trouble06:31
CPrgmSwR2can you double check #ls /mnt/kubuntu/bin/bash06:32
ryansheckleralbertmk - you can go to nvidias site and download the linux driver from there06:32
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: error: NOt a directory06:32
CPrgmSwR2something is really wrong because ls should not be giving you that error06:33
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: I have the same error when I try to access to bash on my SUSE pc...06:34
stdinOkapi: you aren't doing "ls /mnt/kubuntu/bin/bash/" are you?06:34
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: not on my sue pc...06:34
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: i just type cd /bin/bash06:35
CPrgmSwR2ls: /mnt/kubuntu/bin/bash: No such file or directory06:35
CPrgmSwR2this is the error I get06:35
intelikey...06:35
albertmkbad bad ...06:35
CPrgmSwR2I have to go06:35
intelikeycd /bin/bash <<<<  of course /bin/bash is not a dir,  it's a shell06:35
CPrgmSwR2cd != ls06:36
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: oh no...06:36
intelikeytrue dat06:36
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: don't go06:36
CPrgmSwR2I have to06:36
OkapiCPrgmSwR2: ok...thank you anyway06:37
CPrgmSwR2Okapi: my advice- re-install kubuntu06:37
CPrgmSwR2your welcome06:37
intelikeyMEDIC!06:37
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gajolodoes anybody know how to acess different windowns created partitions from ubuntu?06:40
intelikey!ntfs06:40
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse06:40
gajoloyes06:40
intelikeymost of us do   yes06:41
gajolowindows crashed for me and i have to get some info off before i wipe it06:41
intelikeythe link should walk you right through it06:41
loadeddoes anybody know how to configure Beryl from kubuntu?06:42
intelikey!i06:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:42
stdinloaded: you use beryl-manager06:43
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gajolothanks,  it worked perfectly06:45
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intelikeygood on ya mate06:45
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intelikeywhy does it take so long to mount an nfs share ?06:46
ch40show do i exit xserver to install nvidia drivers?06:47
jasonhohreinAnyone know how to change Kubuntu to double click files/folders on the desktop instead of single clicking?06:47
loadedI use beryl - manager but when i select a windows manager (Beryl) the system try to change but nothing...06:47
intelikeysudo /etc/init.d/*dm stop            ch40s06:47
Daisuke-Idointelikey: i wish i knew, but i made the mistake of trying to mount a 500gb nfs share...  i quickly narrowed what i was mounting before trying again :\06:47
ch40sthank you06:47
kkathmanch40s  ctrl-alt f1,  then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop06:48
ch40sty06:48
kkathmanthen make sure you have all the build stuff, and always choose to compile the nVidia interface06:48
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intelikeyit will work from within kde as well06:49
ch40scan i apt-get the build deps?06:49
intelikeyjasonhohrein in kcontrol somewhere06:49
ch40si tried envy and got all the deps for that06:49
ch40sand it didnt run06:49
Daisuke-Ido!envy06:49
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!06:49
Daisuke-Idogoodnight.06:50
stdinjasonhohrein: System Settings > Keyboard & Mouse > Mouse06:50
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jasonhohreinThanks! I'll try those!06:50
ch40si used it on my ubuntu with no problems, i'll remember that though =] 06:50
ch40sDaisuke-Ido:06:50
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jasonhohreinSystem Settings > Keyboard & Mouse > Mouse worked! Thanks again!06:51
intelikeyi have also heard horror stories from "restricted-manager" in kde...06:51
intelikey</shrugs>06:51
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stdinintelikey: there will be a real KDE restricted manager in 7.1006:52
ch40sk06:52
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intelikeygood i think maybe it needs it...   BUT06:52
intelikeyi still wish my nvidia card was supported06:52
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gajoloalso, is there any way of restoring a norton ghost image through ubuntu without the boot disk06:52
gajolowould norton ghost work on wine?06:52
stdinI doubt it06:52
intelikeyeeeek   disk utilities in wine      !!!06:53
gajoloi cant think of a way, without finding a boot disk06:53
intelikeyimo that's begging for trubble06:53
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intelikeyNickPresta is back.06:54
intelikeyget him....06:54
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NickPrestahi intelikey :)06:54
intelikey:)06:54
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gajolowould it work on wine?06:55
gajoloihave to have xp working for work06:55
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intelikeygajolo you can try it.  but i'm like stdin i doubt that it will    and as i expressed already, if it does seem to work it may still crash half way through and hose the entire hd06:56
Okapiwhen you install kubuntu, there is no option to repaire ?06:56
gajolohmm06:56
intelikeyOkapi not on the live CD    i can't say about the alternate install disk06:57
daSkreechOkapi: repair what?06:57
intelikeyi don't remember one06:57
gajoloany open source program designed for ghost images?06:57
intelikeydaSkreech Y his installation of course06:57
OkapidaSkreech: repair the actual installation..06:57
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OkapidaSkreech: on that casre it will just fix the missing file on the system instead to re-install all...06:58
Okapicase06:58
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stdinIIRC, you can choose to reinstall without formatting the partitions, it's possible that could maybe work06:59
intelikeyOkapi the reason there isn't,  is because you are thinking to rigidly.  linux can be so vastly different from one install to another on the same hardware, that "repairing" and installation would be much harder than reloading.06:59
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kubuntu__need a little help. i installed kbfx 0.4.9.3.1.deb from sourceforge. my prblem is the apps won't appear in the menu06:59
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Okapiintelikey: i am not rigide, i am desperate....07:00
intelikeykubuntu__ you "might" want to install menu  ?07:01
BiovoreI guess SHA-1 it out as a usable encryption scheme..07:01
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Biovorewell anything under 64 chars07:01
intelikeyOkapi didn't say you were rigid,  said your thinking was of a rigid system   which linux is not.07:01
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kubuntu__intelikey: i'm sorry. i don't think i follow07:02
intelikey!info menu | kubuntu__07:02
ubotukubuntu__: menu: generates programs menu for all menu-aware applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.32 (feisty), package size 397 kB, installed size 1700 kB07:02
Okapiintelikey: one or another....I just want my system to comeback. So I am trying to find a solution07:02
kubuntu__hmm.. my previous kbfx worked fine... its this new version that im having problems07:03
intelikeyOkapi still have the fs mounted ?07:03
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sfireanyone here running the 64bit version of kubuntu?07:04
Okapiintelikey: what do you mean?07:05
intelikeyah it's just a question.07:05
Okapiintelikey: I still have everything mounted07:05
intelikeyOkapi ok run   ls /mnt/*    and pastebin the output  i'll have a look.07:06
Okapiintelikey: relax...I know you want help.07:06
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intelikeyi want help ?07:06
stdins/want/need/ :p07:06
intelikeyok...07:07
intelikey:)07:07
tazgodxwhat packages do i install for divx, and xvid support?07:07
Okapiintelikey: kubuntu07:07
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Okapiintelikey: what is the latest kernel revision?07:07
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intelikeypastebin me;       ls /mnt/kubuntu07:07
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intelikey2.6.24 i think.   not sure   you can look on  http://kernel.org tho07:08
stdintazgodx: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats07:08
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stdin!away > word07:08
=== intelikey needs help hmmmm
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bbeck_Okapi: 2.6.22.607:09
Okapiintelikey: //rafb.net/p/EmFmVQ70.html07:10
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intelikeyas long as it doesn't kick...07:10
intelikey:)07:10
Okapiintelikey: do you think I can just install the newer version with apt-get install?07:11
stdinhow'd you decipher my cryptic plans? :p07:11
intelikeyokapi pastebin me;       ls /mnt/kubuntu/bin07:11
intelikeystdin i can read you like a book   :)07:11
Okapiintelikey: I think I had the 2.6.20...07:11
kubuntu__intelikey: i reinstalled the old version ( kbfx 0.4.9.2) and it's fine. could it be the 4.9.3 deb?07:12
Okapiintelikey: //rafb.net/p/EmFmVQ70.html07:12
Okapiintelikey: this is the link //rafb.net/p/EmFmVQ70.html07:12
intelikeykubuntu__ yes it could07:12
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intelikeyOkapi no it's not.  i've seen that one.07:13
intelikeyokapi pastebin me;       ls /mnt/kubuntu/bin07:13
kubuntu__has anyone here successfully installed kbfx 0.4.9.3.1? could use your help. thanks07:13
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clemsyelu07:14
intelikeyke07:14
clemsyeil  y a des  francis?07:14
stdin!fr07:14
clemsyefracais*07:14
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:14
intelikeyquick draw!07:14
politikdamn I can't figure this out!07:15
clemsyeok07:15
Okapiintelikey: it just give me /mnt/kubuntu/bin07:15
clemsye@+07:15
Okapiintelikey: nothing else07:15
intelikeyOkapi ok add   -l07:15
intelikeyOkapi that's lower case L07:15
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Okapiintelikey: lrwxrwxrwx l root root 25 2007-07-30 15:29 /mnt/kubuntu/bin -> libscim-kdeutils.so.0.1.007:17
Okapiintelikey: nothing else07:17
intelikeyl   it's a link07:17
intelikeyyou want to tell the story now of how you did this ?07:18
Okapiintelikey: what you mean?07:18
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intelikeywhat did you do when you broke that pinguin ?07:18
kymoieis there any way of playing Adobe Shockwave player animations in firefox (Kubuntu)07:19
stdinkymoie: flash yes, shockwave no07:19
nicolai_kymoie: install Flash?07:19
kymoiepretty sure its installed07:19
stdinkymoie: unless you install firefox in wine and then shockwave in that07:19
intelikeywere you issuing command  like     sudo ln -s blah/blah blah   ?     were you upgrading the system?   what did you do when that happened ?07:19
intelikey@ Okapi07:20
Okapiintelikey: poor pinguin...I just reboot my PC the I get Kernel Panic. Since this morning I am trying to fix it. I had to run fsck once but nothing good.07:20
kymoiestdin: I'm not that desperate, but thanks anyway07:20
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intelikeyno.  a reboot didn't do that.07:20
intelikeyOkapi that's maybe when you new it was hosed   but that's not what did it.07:20
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intelikeystdin did you see what Okapi did ?07:21
Okapiintelikey: I like that pinguin!!! So nothing to hurt him...please that all I did07:21
stdinintelikey: nope07:22
intelikey<Okapi> intelikey: lrwxrwxrwx l root root 25 2007-07-30 15:29 /mnt/kubuntu/bin -> libscim-kdeutils.so.0.1.007:22
intelikeystdin    ^   :)07:22
stdinthat's all that's in (the real) /bin ?07:22
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intelikeystdin that is the real bin07:23
intelikeynothing in it.  it's a link07:23
stdinwtf...07:23
stdinI see now07:23
intelikeyyeah07:23
intelikey:)07:23
Okapiintelikey: is that mean I do not have chance to recovery it?07:23
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intelikeyOkapi yep.07:23
Okapiintelikey: ok, thank you07:24
intelikeyOkapi and i'll go out on a limb and say that your messing with   libscim-kdeutils   did it...07:24
intelikeyOkapi one more Q   what version was that install ?    gutsy ?07:25
Okapiintelikey: thank you for your help. I will try my way.07:25
Okapiintelikey: Feisty07:25
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intelikeyOkapi ok.     ya know if you want to try it.  you could do this.07:25
intelikeysudo rm /mnt/kubuntu/bin ;cp -a /bin /mnt/kubuntu07:26
intelikeyit can't cost you anything really and might work.07:26
intelikeyi kinda wonder what else may be hosed tho07:27
stdinsudo cp -ar /bin /mnt/kubuntu07:27
Okapiintelikey: nevermind. Thank you anyway07:27
intelikeyerr need sudo on the second part too.07:27
intelikeystdin -a includes -r    no?07:28
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sfire64bit kubuntu doesn't offer wine?07:28
stdinintelikey: hmm, so it does :p07:28
intelikey       -a, --archive07:29
intelikey              same as -dpR07:29
stdinsfire: there is a package on the wine website, http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb07:29
intelikeyOkapi heh  i don't know what you mean by "I will try my way."    but if you mean installing a kernel on that busted installation  forget that, you are wasting your time.07:30
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shayneHi07:34
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shaynei am looking for a place to find some information about Hacking XP Client!07:34
intelikeyOkapi and you are welcome.    hate that it is all messed up there.   but really if you are not going to try copying the bin dir from the live CD   just reinstall man.  cut your losses07:34
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stdinshayne: don't look here then07:35
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intelikeyshayne i don't think you want to ask that in here,  or on irc for that matter.07:35
stdinnot when we can see your IP address >;)07:35
shayneyes, that is right!07:35
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shaynebut where is sould go?07:36
stdingoogle I guess07:36
intelikeyshayne you can check in ##windows though if you want07:36
shayneOK, tnx too mach07:36
intelikey!warez07:36
ubotupiracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o07:36
DrOnlineshayne: be warned, you may end up sifting through quite alot of bile to find what you're looking for.07:37
Aranelhey, can someone help me for deb packaging ?07:37
stdin!packaging07:37
ubotuThe packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports07:37
Aranelstdin: thanks :)07:38
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sfireare there any limitations to what 64bit can do these days?07:39
intelikeyATTENTION U BU NAUTS !  get all your warez at 127.0.0.107:39
sfireI have 4 GB of ram in my new machine and only 3 is available using 32bit07:39
intelikeysfire kernel07:40
sfirewell I'm running off the 64bit DVD currently07:40
stdinsee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-ff0a19a9ff23537e36b3cf9d40b2d8747bd45cd407:40
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intelikeysfire the kernel can be compiled with 2g or upto <unreasonable>g    and i would assume that the generic kernel there is limited07:41
intelikeyhttp://tinyurl.com/hmw8u07:42
intelikeystdin i don't like url's that take two lines...07:43
stdinintelikey: then http://tinyurl.com/23ewcf07:43
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sfireso do the w32codecs work in the 64bit version yet?07:44
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stdinno, there is a w64codecs package I think tho07:44
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intelikeyseeing that they are w32 i have my doubts07:44
intelikeyyeah w64 should07:45
sfiregrrr.. I hate these kinda times in software07:45
sfirewell.. hardware07:45
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intelikeythen why buy new hardware ?07:45
sfirewanted more speed07:46
intelikeywell never mind.  not every one is comfortable on a p1 now days07:46
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sfireI didn't think MMX started until the 23307:47
sfirein fact I am pretty sure of it (I think)07:47
intelikeyoperative word "think"07:47
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intelikeykinda hard to argue with the hardware at hand.07:48
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sfirehehehehe07:48
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sfireoohhh what crap07:49
sfiredo I reboot and live in a 32 bit world for a while more or try 64bit07:49
jussi01!gnash07:49
ubotuAn open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/07:49
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intelikeysfire 32bit if you like comfort,  64 if you like challange07:50
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intelikeypick your take and take your pick07:50
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sfirethat 4 gigs of ram looks nice but I don't think its worth it :(07:51
sfiresadly07:51
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sfireI should have just bought 3 gig insted of 407:51
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intelikeyyou can use 4g in 32bit  just rebuild the kernel07:51
sfireintelikey: really?07:51
intelikeyyes really....   although i can't see needing that much.07:51
sfireany good instructions for doing that?07:51
intelikeykernel docs07:52
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intelikeyhttp://kernel.org maybe07:52
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intelikeyi forget if it's big ram or high ram...   seems like big but that sounds odd.07:53
intelikeyi haven't built a kernel in several months now.07:53
sfirethe extra ram makes a huge difference :)07:53
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makuseruhi, im having a problem with VLC, when i play an mkv or ogm that has subtitles if they are too long to fit on one line they overlap and go off the screen instead of going down to another line, how can i fix this?07:54
intelikeyand i'm old enough to forget if i want to, and nobody can stop me.07:54
intelikeysfire for what ?07:54
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stdinintelikey: compiling a kernel probably :p07:54
Biovoremakuseru: I use mplayer..  Works just fine..07:54
sfirecached mostly ... lol07:54
intelikeypfft07:54
makuseruBiovore: ok, well i use VLC07:54
jussi01Hmmm, can someone reccomend to me some good, basic open source crm sofware?07:55
Biovoremakuseru: I theory it shouldn't do that..  mught be sub-font size issue or something..07:55
Biovorecrm?07:55
makuseruBiovore: well if i make it small enough to fit on one line i cant read it07:55
jussi01customer resource management07:55
intelikeysfire heh  i don't think i need more ram here...  Memory Used/Total Percent: 10/242 MB (4%)   :)07:57
jussi01lol07:58
Biovorejussi01: those are usually custom jobs...  Google around.. there might be some stuff out there.. but probably won't fit what you want exactly..07:58
jussi01!info facturalux07:58
ubotufacturalux: ERP/CRM software for GNU/Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-12 (feisty), package size 792 kB, installed size 2932 kB07:58
jussi01wow, that was descriptive...07:59
sfireintelikey: :o07:59
sfireintelikey: my old system would be a HUGE upgrade for you :o07:59
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intelikeyif it aint broke don't let stdin fix it....08:00
jussi01intelikey: you should run sugar... :P08:00
Okapiintelikey: fixe....08:00
intelikeyerr i mean don't fix it...08:00
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intelikeyjussi01 sugar ?   i run linux.08:01
stdinjussi01: intelikey loves his text console too much to sully it with some GUI08:01
jussi01lol08:01
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sfireintelikey: you don't use KDE?08:01
intelikeysfire haven't i quite some time now   no08:01
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sfirewell I'm running back to my 32bit world.. be back in a sec08:02
intelikeyalthough i have ran kubuntu / kde on the p1 while it only had 64m ram   (with no swap)08:02
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intelikeyjussi01 cause i'm either very lonely or i just like the people here    i'll let you decide which08:03
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intelikeylol08:04
intelikeyno08:04
intelikeyactually i try to help in here some....   believe that or not...    it's kinda a "give back to the community" thing i guess.08:05
jussi01intelikey: I understand completely :)08:05
intelikeyi really don't know why i waste my time in here....08:05
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kkathmannice :)08:06
intelikey:)08:06
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jussi01lol08:06
thomaxhi08:07
intelikeyyou guys are a mess.     lol08:07
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intelikeystdin i've thuroghly corrupted this channel.08:07
thomaxanyony got n idea where I can configure that when I press my power button on my pc it automatically hybernates08:07
NightBirdyes08:08
intelikeythomax what version ?08:08
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intelikeyin older versions (sysV) you could do that in inittab  i think08:09
intelikeybut upstart has no inittab    i think08:09
thomax7.0408:09
stdinintelikey: upstart has not inittab by default, tho it will read it if it's there08:09
intelikeyyeah that's upstart...   hmmm08:09
thomaxso?08:10
intelikeyso i think the powerfail sig will allow that in inittab   iirc08:10
intelikeybut NightBird may have a better place to config that08:11
thomaxbut how do i practically do it08:11
NightBirdI forget where it is08:11
thomaxlol08:11
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jussi01can you not do that in the session manager?08:11
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thomaxkdm?08:11
NightBirdI remember I had to mess with some stuff that would have supported what you're looking for when I was messing around with the laptop event things...08:12
thomaxaight08:12
NightBirdso it would sleep when I close the monitor, and that stuff.... it wasn't working right before08:12
thomaxI'll do some more google08:12
makuseruhi, im having a problem with VLC, when i play an mkv or ogm that has subtitles if they are too long to fit on one line they overlap and go off the screen instead of going down to another line, how can i fix this?08:12
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ch40swhere do i get all the codecs for amarok?08:14
NightBirdmakuseru: that's pretty much a known issue with vlc08:14
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makuseruNightBird: well whats a fix for it then? it use to not do this, but as of lately it is08:15
NightBirdmakuseru: regress to a previous version?08:15
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NightBirdas of right now anyways08:15
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makuseruNightBird: i havent upgraded08:15
ch40swhere do i get all the codecs for amarok?08:16
intelikey!codecs08:16
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:16
ch40sty08:17
intelikeyon dat page.   yw08:17
Okapiintelikey: fixe....ver08:17
Okapisorry08:17
intelikey?08:17
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NightBirdmakuseru: from what I know, vlc doesn't fully support a lot of subbing features, and a lot of fansubbers are starting to use some of those features which ends up causing VLC rendering to be off08:18
makuseruNightBird: can you recommend another program that will do a better job?08:19
intelikeymplayer08:20
makuserui dont like mplayer08:20
NightBirdmakuseru: I can't, as I haven't tried in linux... having said that, I would look at the normal video plays available08:20
ch40sVLC > *08:20
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intelikey!player08:20
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs08:20
intelikey!players08:20
intelikeyooops08:20
NightBirdch40s: VLC is quite nice, but the problem is that it doesn't fully support certain features that have started to become popular....08:21
intelikeybut i still like it.08:21
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stdinvlc is the illegitimate offspring of mplayers and gnome08:22
stdinjust a thought08:22
intelikeyi probably could use kaffeine or something in the console   but vlc is all i have used there.08:22
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intelikeywatching movies in one console while irc'ing in another...  heh08:23
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intelikeynot atm tho08:23
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NightBirdthen I could at least lay down on my futon.... of course, I should just go to bed instead...08:24
=== jussi01 is being lazy at work... :P
NightBirdjussi01: I do that sometimes... well ok, more then sometimes...08:24
intelikey[ bb -o !bb ] 08:24
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NightBirdluckly they don't mind so long as I get all of my work done on time08:25
jussi01NightBird: same here08:25
NightBirdyeay... I don't have to go to work tomorrow08:26
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ch40sstdin: anything wrong with illegitimate offspring?08:26
ch40s=] 08:26
stdinch40s: only when it'd GTK based08:26
ch40slawl08:26
intelikeystdin it is not.   you said something like   [[ 2b -o ! 2b ] ] 08:26
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ch40sanyone get .rm working with anything?08:27
stdinintelikey: it's "similar" enough :p08:27
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jussi01!rm | ch40s08:27
ubotuch40s: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal08:27
jussi01lol08:27
jussi01oops08:27
jussi01ch40s: yes, real media works with several apps08:27
intelikeystdin next thing i know you'll be trying to paten !=08:28
jussi01!real08:28
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:28
daSkreechNightBird: that's a sequence you have to patent it08:28
ch40si could only get it workin with a mozilla plugin08:28
ch40sty08:28
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jussi01ch40s: you can also grabthe proprietry real player client08:28
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stdinnow you all owe me money :p08:29
jussi01but dont... use the codec from the repos08:29
ch40sdidnt know they made one for lin08:29
intelikey:)08:29
ch40sk08:29
intelikeyso sue me08:29
jussi01stdin: you cant, I already own the patent08:29
stdinjussi01: I'm like SCO, I say I own the patent even though I don't08:30
intelikeylol08:30
jussi01lol08:30
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intelikeyimo intelectual patents are evil08:31
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stdinthe 3rd paragraph here is wrong: http://www.sco.com/company/profile.html08:33
intelikeyE: NightBird/brain not a known format08:33
jussi01lol08:33
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intelikeystdin how many parts of paragraph 3 ?????08:35
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stdinthe whole thing08:35
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intelikeystdin i think i found one part that is ok  "and"08:36
stdinintelikey: the only fact there is "UNIX operating system source code originally developed by AT&T/Bell Labs" other than that it's all just wrong :)08:36
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intelikeybut if you start removing the trash and you get down to the word "and"  the that's not wrong...   it's just what is on both sides of it that is false08:38
navetsis there a way to get google to reset your adsense account if you get banned?08:38
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stdinyou should ask google about that08:39
intelikey"adsense account" ?08:39
navetsI tried to appeal with google but they denied it.08:39
navetsDamn family, should have never told them i make money from clicks08:40
navetsthey were clicking my ads and i didnt know lol08:40
navetsnow im stuck adless08:40
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intelikeywell now aint that a sad storry08:41
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navetsit is08:41
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navetssad enough to make me commit E-murder08:41
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hayamihi i need help i installed kubuntu in an hp dv2135la but i don't have any sound08:42
hayamiwhat i should do?08:42
jussi01!sound | hayami08:42
ubotuhayami: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP308:42
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SlimG2what's the name of the kubuntu dev. channel?08:43
intelikey#ubuntu+108:43
intelikeydon't think there is a kde specific one08:44
stdinyou mean #kubuntu-devel ?08:44
jussi01hmmm, not #kubuntu-devel ?08:44
jussi01lol08:44
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jussi01beat ya :P08:44
stdinnot according to my client08:44
SlimG2thanks stdin & jussi0108:44
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jussi01SlimG2: be really polite in there08:45
intelikey oh ... that's not gutsy tho is it ?08:45
jussi01intelikey: its all of them isnt it? same as #ubuntu-devel ?08:45
stdinbut, he didn't say gutsy...08:46
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stdinjussi01: see http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/3526/image10jk5.png :p08:47
SlimG2jussi01: polite is my fist and middle name08:47
SlimG2s/fist/first/ ;)08:48
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intelikeystdin i know he didn't.    and you are correct   just asking  that isn't the +1 channel is it ?08:48
stdinintelikey: well it's the devel channel and they do allow kubuntu/kde specific questions in there. but the gutsy channel is +1 yeah08:49
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intelikeyk    i was thinking that +1 was  #ubuntu+1    although i was assuming he wanted +1   and that was a bad assumption.08:50
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intelikeyso i'm wrong even when i'm right...     so sue me08:50
intelikey:)08:51
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stdinI won't sew you, just sentence you to only using X for 2 weeks08:51
intelikeyno actually don't,  i've been in coart,  don't like it.08:51
intelikeyNO!  not X    jsut put me in jail08:51
stdinmuhahahaha :)08:52
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intelikeyi can't find my way around in the pointy clicky thingy...08:52
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jussi01!nixternal | intelikey08:53
ubotuintelikey: Oh no!  The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived!  He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too!08:53
jussi01sorry, just reminded me...08:53
intelikey:)08:54
stdinjussi01: call it fate or call it justice, but there is no image on that page :p08:54
jussi01stdin: ??08:54
jussi01what is ther?08:55
intelikeysome how i find it hard to believe that seveas would leave that infonode in ubotu's  database....08:55
jussi01intelikey: what?08:55
jussi01the nixtern*l one?08:55
jussi01!girl | intelikey08:56
ubotuintelikey: Girls dont exist on the internet.  See http://www.escapistmagazine.com/print/17/27 | For more interesting reading, see http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/04/13/how-to-not-be-an-asshole-a-guide-for-men/08:56
intelikeyyeah,   doesn't sound like something he'd apporve08:56
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jussi01hehe, hobbsee's doing i bet08:56
stdinjussi01: http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3932/image11ne1.png08:56
jussi01!-girl08:56
ubotugirl has no aliases - added by Hobbsee on 2007-08-12 09:12:4408:56
intelikeyyeah.08:57
jussi01offs08:57
jussi01oh...ffs08:57
jussi01gah08:57
intelikey!-nixternal08:58
ubotunixternal has no aliases - added by Hobbsee on 2007-05-31 09:32:5308:58
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jussi01lol08:58
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jussi01we love hobbsee08:58
intelikey:)08:58
jussi01!girls | intelikey08:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about girls - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:58
intelikeyi knew it didn't sound like seveas08:59
jussi01hehe, they took it down08:59
jussi01!hobbsee | intelikey08:59
ubotuintelikey: I phear the stick so shhhhh08:59
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jussi01gah, why cant i change that kopete opens linke in freaking firfox09:00
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TyphoidHippoHey everyone - I'm trying to use mingetty instead of GDM, KDM, or XDM and everything I can find says to edit /etc/inittab (which is absent from Feisty, it seems)...  I tried creating /etc/inittab and adding what is referenced in the tuts I have read.  I also tried launching mingetty from rc.local - neither of which works.  Any help would be greatly appreciated, and sorry this is so long...09:02
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kkathmanhi Hobbsee :)09:07
stdinjussi01: I still will, because I say so :p09:08
Hobbseehiya09:08
stdinjussi01: s/will/win/09:08
stdin:p09:08
Hobbseekkathman!09:08
kkathman:)09:09
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jussi01stdin: +b? whats that?09:10
stdinjussi01: +b is ban :p09:10
jussi01lol09:11
jussi01ok09:11
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jussi01modes and sucjh09:11
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stdinjussi01: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml09:12
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stdin:)09:13
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stdinagg, I can feel a migraine coming on (probably from all the head slapping from jussi01 :P), so I'm off to take a horse-pill and sleep it off09:16
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jussi01lol09:16
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SlimG2Poll: Is KOffice ready to replace OpenOffice.org in Kubuntu?: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3086293.009:17
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krautmoin09:17
Jucatostdin: ... we can't be both having migraines right now...09:18
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intelikey:)09:18
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intelikeygooday09:18
jussi01SlimG2: out of curiosity, did you have my or stdins post first? ie.09:18
jussi01[09:44]  <jussi01> hmmm, not #kubuntu-devel ?09:18
jussi01[09:44]  <stdin> you mean #kubuntu-devel ?09:18
JucatoSlimG2: looks ok to me. although I'd recommend adding an option like "Wait for KOffice 2.0" or be more specific which version of KOffice you are referring to...09:18
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intelikeyjussi01 his09:18
jussi01grrr09:19
stdinJucato: don't be afraid to kick jussi01ok :P09:19
jussi01hehe09:19
Jucatowhen my Migraine Load goes 100%, I'll even kick intelikey...09:19
intelikeyyeah he beet me to a bot call too   he's "quick draw mc_graw"  tday09:19
intelikeyJucato heh09:20
intelikey:)09:20
jussi01lol09:20
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intelikeyJucato you really feeling poorly ?09:21
Jucatomigraine. same as stidin...09:22
intelikeyoh yuch.09:22
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SlimG2Jucato: "Wait for KOffice 2.0" option added09:23
Jucatomy situation is worse though... it's 3:22 PM, and my neighbor is on their 3rd day of incessant singing/beer parties... but that's offtopic :(09:23
JucatoSlimG2: nice :)09:23
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SlimG2Poll: Is KOffice ready to replace OpenOffice.org in Kubuntu?: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3086293.009:27
jussi01so anyone actually know how to get kopete to open links in ff not konq?09:27
jussi01!repeat | SlimG2:09:27
ubotuSlimG2:: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience09:27
ch40swhat is the wallet?09:27
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ch40s!wallet09:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wallet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:28
jussi01ch40s: its liek the thing that manages your passwords09:28
kkathmanjussi01:  just go to your settings and replace the browser with fiiewdoz09:28
jussi01!info kwallet09:28
kkathmanfirefox I mean09:28
ubotuPackage kwallet does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas09:28
flaccid!kwallet09:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kwallet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:28
ch40s!info kwallet09:28
ch40s!kwallet09:28
flacciddang09:28
ch40soh well09:28
Jucatojussi01: doesn't Kopete have a setting for that? otherwise it follows KDE's default settings09:28
jussi01kkathman: where in the settings... i kant find it09:28
SlimG2jussi01: I don't feel like I've earned the !repeat , It's a while since I wrote it the first time09:28
flaccidsystem settings - default apps iirc09:28
Jucatoright place09:29
kkathmanjussi01:  kcontrol kde components  browser09:29
JucatoSystem Settings -> Default Applications -> Web Browser09:29
jussi01flaccid:09:29
kkathmandefault apps I mean :)09:29
jussi01i have done that09:29
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kkathmanTHEN web browser09:29
jussi01but still no joy09:29
kkathmancheck it again, be sure that you clicked the radio button and then put in Firefox, and clicked APPLY09:30
kkathmanbe sure its firefox (lowercase)09:31
kkathmannot Firefox09:31
jussi01still does it09:31
jussi01ahh, now I apologise, it starts links in firefox, however when you try to go to your email inbox it uses konq09:32
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kkathman?? email is linked to konq ?? very odd09:33
jussi01!info kwalletmanager | ch40s09:34
ubotuch40s: kwalletmanager: wallet manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 346 kB, installed size 812 kB09:34
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jbrouhardOkay09:34
jbrouhardsomeone explain this one to me09:34
jbrouhardWhy is it, even with sudo cfdisk and qpartd...09:34
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jbrouhardAfter deleting the entire partition table like 10 times in the last hour, The *buntu installers keep thinking I have a NTFS partiton still on the drive ?!09:35
flaccidremove it with fdisk09:35
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jbrouhardflaccid: i've been using cfdisk.. isn't that just as good ?09:35
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jbrouhardthis is so pissing me off.. i've been deleting the partition tables all freaking night09:37
jbrouhardand it won't delete according to *buntu709:37
jbrouhardyet Gentoo says it's gone09:37
jbrouhardI *KNOW* *buntu doesn't write crap to CD, if i'm booting to the liveCD>09:37
flaccidnever used it sorry09:37
jbrouhardexcuse me while i go reboot.09:37
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flaccid!adeptfix09:41
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:41
RurouniJonesAnd people say linux isn't user friendly ;)09:44
flaccidyou can smash windows, but who wants to fight penguins09:44
RurouniJonesSeal clubbers with a sense of adevnture?09:44
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flaccidthe seals are the bouncers at da club09:45
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jbrouhardflaccid: fdisk didn't work09:47
jbrouhardit still thinks I have data on that damn drive09:47
jbrouhardI don't understand what is going on here09:47
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jbrouhardI have never in my life seen "phantom partitions" after they're deleted09:48
flaccidpastebin error msg09:49
jbrouhardThere's no error message09:49
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jbrouhardi'm trying to install Kubuntu or even xubuntu09:49
jbrouhardboth keep saying that they couldn't partition /dev/sda09:50
jbrouhardand it automounts the partition, and shows my windows data09:50
jbrouhardbut looking at fdisk *RIGHT NOW* it shows a linux partition09:50
jbrouhardnot windows09:50
jbrouhardnow how is this possible ?09:50
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flaccidremove it with fdisk, jbrouhard09:53
jbrouhardflaccid: I have been09:53
jbrouhardfor the last two hours.09:53
jbrouhardExplain to me why it is still here.09:53
jbrouhardi run sudo fdisk /dev/sda09:54
jbrouharddelete all partitions09:54
jbrouhardwrite the table09:54
jbrouhardand quit09:54
flaccidunder fdisk?09:54
jbrouhardyes09:54
jbrouhardtried fdisk09:54
jbrouhardcfdisk09:54
RurouniJonesAny suggestions for a decent backup program? I just need a simple "Keep a copy of the dir structure and update the differences" program. Not some arcane compression rdiff jobbie09:54
jbrouhardeven the buntu installer09:54
jbrouhardall i get is a return of the /dev/sda1 partition with all my windows crap on it09:54
jbrouhardhow in the blue hell is this possible??????09:54
flaccidi don't know09:54
jbrouhardI can't even boot the drive, tells me that the drive's boot sector is gone09:55
flaccidRurouniJones: tar09:55
RurouniJonesSomething automated09:55
flaccidtry a grub fix09:55
flaccid!fixgrub09:55
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto09:55
jbrouhardRurouniJones: tar plus a cron job09:55
jbrouhardflaccid: I don't have linux even remotely installed here09:55
jbrouhardgrub won't fix crap09:55
flaccid!backup | RurouniJones09:55
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ubotuRurouniJones: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning09:55
jbrouhardthis had nothing but windows on it to begin with09:55
flaccidjbrouhard: don't need it to be09:55
RurouniJonesGracias09:56
flaccidinstalling grub into mbr will fix the mbr then maybe you can delete the parts. a bit crazy but worth a try09:56
jbrouhardhmm09:56
jbrouhardwhat the...09:57
jbrouhardError 11: unrecognized device string09:57
flaccidthats a common one you can google09:59
flaccidi gtg09:59
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maverickcan i install gnome-panel in kde and use it instead of kde taskbar ?!10:13
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kkathmanmaverick:  not sure why you'd want to do that10:14
kkathmanyou can add panels in kde and put anything you want on them, including applets and applications10:15
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maverickkkathman: well i want to totally change the look or customize kde taskbar and i can't seem to find any resources10:16
maverickand i like gnome panel10:16
maverickso i thought of this10:16
kkathmanmaverick:  well play around with the panel settings in kde.  My kde doesnt look a thing like the default - all of my panels are hidden and when they appear, they are small ones in the lower left, lower right and one launch panel for apps in the middle10:17
kkathmanyou could create a panel in kde that acts just like the gnome panel in fact10:18
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maverickkkathman: how?10:18
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maverickkkathman: i mean do u have resources to go digg into ?10:19
kkathmannot really I just fiddled with the panel settings :)10:19
kkathmanits more fun that way :)10:19
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kkathmango to any panel already there, right click, and click "add panel"  then right click on the new panel and start adding things - you can position the panel on any of the four sides of the screen10:20
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maverickkkathman: yeah i know, thanks though...10:21
kkathmanmaverick:  also, you can get to the panels suite of settings:  kcontrol -desktop - panels10:21
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SoulChildhi all, is there a kernelpatch or something to change the way the Text is displayed in boot (without splash)??? I want more colors like in gentoo.10:42
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server_ext3 killed my hdd :/10:47
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jabbahello10:48
jabbai am just trying to connect to a novell 6.0 server with ncpmount10:48
jabbabut i always get an invalid server response (-330)10:48
jabbadoes anyone know what that means?10:49
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shinobiSoulChild there is a color line in the grub config10:56
shinobiSoulChild in /etc/boot/grub i think10:57
shinobiSoulChild sorry /boot/grub10:58
shinobiSoulChild /boot/grub/menu.lst10:58
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server_my ubuntu wont start up, its prompting and nothing happend....10:59
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nicolai_SoulChild: Do you mean the Grub boot-loader?11:05
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SylvarantAny know how to set up Qt 4.3 in Kdevelop ?11:08
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magi_hello!11:46
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stephenhello12:02
sonoftheclayrhello12:03
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stepheni need to be able to use 2 different devices at once, ethernet (wired) and my wifi adaptor for Ad-hoc. Knetwork manager doesnt allow you to do this. can anyone help please12:03
llutzstephen: edit /etc/network/interfaces and configure your devices there12:04
stepheni dunno how to12:04
stepheni dont know what to write in the places12:05
stephenof what s already there12:05
llutzstephen: please paste your /etc/network/interfaces  at pastebin12:05
llutz!pastebin | stephen12:05
ubotustephen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:05
stephenhmmm12:05
stephenthey say inet12:06
stephendo i chage to adhoc?12:06
llutzstephen: plz paste12:06
llutzstephen: remove keys if there are any12:06
stephenhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36161/12:06
stepheni dunno what you mean by keys12:06
stephenbut there is the paste12:06
llutzstephen: wlan-keys i meant12:07
stephenhmm there is one at the end right?12:07
llutzstephen: no thats no key12:07
stephenoh12:07
stephenlol12:07
llutzstephen: so what is your ethernet you want to keep, eth0?12:08
llutzfor internet connection12:08
jussi01!rpath12:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rpath - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:08
jussi01hmmm, someone want to explain rpath to me?12:08
llutzstephen: and what ist your device for the ad-hoc connection12:09
stepheni want to keep eth0 yes12:09
stephenthat as my intetrnet connection12:09
stephenand the wifi adaptor as my ad-hoc12:09
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stepheni want to connect my wifi adapter to a wireless device12:09
llutzstephen: there are 2 usable wlan-devices ath0 and ath1, whoch one is configured for ad-hoc?12:10
llutzwhich12:10
stepheni dont know12:10
stepheni only have one wifi device12:10
llutzstephen: ups, sry, only ath0, i misread12:10
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stephenups?12:11
stephenhmmm12:12
stephenso do you have any idea what i have to change?12:12
llutzstephen: whats the ip-address range of your ad-hoc network?12:12
stephenlol12:12
stepheni dont know that either12:12
stephenim not good with networking12:12
stephenhow woould i find out?12:13
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llutzstephen: look at one of the ad-hoc partner devices for their ip-address12:13
stephen:(12:13
stepheni dont know what that means12:13
stepheni havent set up an ad-hoc yet12:14
llutzstephen: if you want a ad-hoc network, you must have at least one other device than your PC to connect to12:14
stephenyes12:14
stepheni do12:14
llutzstephen: so look into its configuration and search its ip-address12:15
stephenits not that simple12:15
stephenthe device im trying to connect to is a psp12:15
stephenim trying to get xlink kai working (tunneling software)12:15
jussi01!find sql12:15
llutzstephen: sorry i don't know what all that is12:16
ubotuFound: libapache2-mod-auth-mysql, libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql, libdbd-mysql-perl, libhsqldb-java, libhsqldb-java-doc (and 295 others)12:16
stephenall i need is an ad-hoc connection12:16
stephensame as if i were using two pc's as a network12:16
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stephenk-network manager only allows me to have one device connected at one time12:16
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jussi01gah, anyone know the package name for mysql?12:17
stepheni want to be able to use 2 simutaneosly12:17
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llutzstephen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36162/   try this12:17
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llutz(k)networkmanager is only usefull for people with just one network-device in dhcp-mode. for all other scenarios it's useless (my opinion)12:18
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jussi01llutz: very true12:19
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shinobillutz fair call - but great for one off wireless connections on the move.12:20
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llutzshinobi: i prefer guessnet :)12:21
shinobillutz i'll check it out12:21
llutzshinobi:together with wpa_supplicant (see /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz)12:23
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PietHuhu,einer zufllig da ?12:25
stephen??12:25
Jucato!de | Piet12:25
ubotuPiet: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:25
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Pietknnte mir einer evtl helfen bez. ATI unter Kubuntu ?12:27
JucatoPiet: English only12:27
Pietohh sry, i see12:28
Jucato!de | Piet12:28
ubotuPiet: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:28
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shinobithanks llutz, am looking into it12:40
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mm_202hey guys, another [quick]  question: how do I run X apps over ssh?12:48
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mm_202Both boxes are running KUnbuntu..12:48
ScorpKinghow do i find the biggest files on my root partition? i only have about 65MB free :(12:48
llutzmm_202: use X-forwarding and set $DISPLAY12:48
Tm_Tmm_202: manual pages tells that ssh -X foofoo12:48
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mm_202okay, thank you guys.12:49
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JucatoScorpKing: try "sudo apt-get clean" to clear out your apt cache (downloaded debs from apt-get)12:49
ScorpKingdone that12:49
JucatoI think "du" is the command for determining disk/file usage. not really familiar with the options/flags for it12:50
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mm_202anyway for me to be able to bring up a full KDE desktop over X?  Or would I just be better off using VNC?12:51
llutzfor kde mouse-klicking-gui-preferrer "kdirstat"12:51
llutzmm_202: use freenx12:51
mm_202k12:51
mm_202llutz: thank you, again.12:51
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J-23Hello!12:51
ScorpKingthe partition on / is 2.5GB but i cant find what is using the space. apt cache is empty. ok. will try that. thanks llutz and everyone else. :)12:52
llutzScorpKing: 2.5GB / if you don't have /tmp, /var, /home on seperate partitions is not that much...12:53
jussi01hmmm, is there a way to change the colour of the hilights of the tabs/channel list in konversation? (currently they are green/red)12:53
ScorpKinghome is 9BG12:53
ScorpKingGB*12:54
llutzScorpKing: only /home extra? try to remove unused apps12:54
llutzScorpKing: or if you have some diskspace: put /var on an extra partition too12:55
Jucatojussi01: not that I know of. you can of course confirm in #konversation12:55
ScorpKingllutz: i only have default apps with maybe 5 extra. think i must move /var.12:55
jussi01Jucato: thanks. seems i can change everything but that12:56
llutzScorpKing: maybe /tmp too. you are running in severe trouble if /tmp will be bloated and your / use is 100%12:56
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Remo_AI get can't set config #1, error -71 when I connect ANY usb device(scanner, connector for mobile phone...) only the usb mouse works, since the newest kernel release, what the hell are you guys doing on feisty??12:57
ScorpKingllutz: haha! don't i know that! took me some time to figure out why i couldn't log in the other day. /tmp was 100% full. lol12:57
Remo_AAs it seems more than one person have that problem12:58
llutzScorpKing: bad luck if you don't have a real root-account then12:58
Remo_A usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 || usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice || usb 3-1: can't set config #1, error -7112:59
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ScorpKingllutz: not really. was easy to get in as my home partition had lots of free space.12:59
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Tm_Toh no it's meaty beaty jono bacon! ruuuun!01:00
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llutzScorpKing: how did you login to use it, if login will fail due to missing diskspace?01:00
jonoTm_T: hehe01:01
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Tm_Tjono: always nice to see you sir01:01
jonoTm_T: likewise :)01:01
ScorpKingllutz: tty1 still loged in :) login via kdm gave 'xsessions: unable to write to /tmp'01:01
llutzScorpKing: ah, ok then01:02
BobHA linux newbe trying to install a package that might work with Creative X-fi. Can't get it to install. "01:03
BobHowner@admin-desktop:~/Desktop$ dir01:03
BobHautomatix2_1.1-4.6-7.04feisty_amd64.deb        oss-install.pdf01:03
BobHlibdvdcss2_1.2.9-2medibuntu2+build1_amd64.deb  oss-linux_v4.0-1006_amd64.deb01:03
BobHowner@admin-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -l oss-linux_4.0-1006_amd64.deb01:03
BobHNo packages found matching oss-linux_4.0-1006_amd64.deb.01:03
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BobHSorry, but what do I do now?01:03
llutzBobH: dpkg -i <package>   to install01:03
waylandbillBobH: you can look in the repositories using a package manager as well (as opposed to manually installing debs)01:04
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ScorpKingsomething wrong with my connection. its going fishing all the time :( i'll be back some other time. cheers ppl01:09
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Turazoorhi all, i'm having a problem "making" drivers for my wlan usb! could somebody possibly translate the errors?01:11
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jussi01Turazoor: what is your chipset?01:13
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Turazoorjussi01: hi, it's the rt73 chipset, i have to compile drivers, but i'm getting stupendous errors lol01:14
jussi01Turazoor: if they are 1 line errors, put them here other wise give us a past of them01:14
jussi01!paste | Turazoor01:14
ubotuTurazoor: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:14
Turazoorhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36167/01:15
Turazoordo u want me to paste the info in rtmp_main.c01:16
Turazoor?01:16
Turazoorheres the rtmp_main.c file :: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36168/01:18
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waylandbillTurazoor: sounds like that version may not be correct for the kernel version.01:19
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jussi01yep, that sounds about right. or a mising dep01:19
Turazoorok.... ur talking to a noob here lol!01:21
Turazoorit does say that it is for 6.10 but will for all above01:21
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waylandbillTurazoor: have you tried using ndiswrapper and a windows driver?01:29
Turazoornow going to try that after eventually being able to get rid of the linux drivers for my wlan! as these were conflicting01:29
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Turazoorwaylandbill: it's ndiswrapper -i rt73.inf to install right01:30
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waylandbillTurazoor: I don't know what those windows files look like for your card, but that sounds about right. The wiki should have complete documentation for ndiswrapper.01:32
waylandbill!ndiswrapper01:32
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:32
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Turazoorkk ty01:33
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Turazoordoes ndiswrapper copy the relevant files to its own location or.. will it use them from wherever i specify them01:34
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Turazoorin other words can i delete/move the rt73.inf file after installing it01:35
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waylandbillTurazoor: right.01:35
zemisolsolhi01:35
Turazoorwaylandbill: so i can move it/ndiswrapper copies it01:35
waylandbillcorrect01:36
Turazoorcool01:36
Turazoorok, it's still saying there is an alternate driver01:37
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zemisolsol01:37
zemisolsolhi01:38
waylandbillTurazoor: enter 'ndiswrapper' with no arguments to get the usage hints. One tells how to remove installed ndis drivers.01:38
Turazoorkk01:38
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Turazoorok, so its uninstalled01:39
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Turazoori've installed it again and it is still saying "alternate driver rt2570".. and iwconfig is showing no wlan access01:41
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Turazoorrt73 and rt2570 aren't even in lsmod01:42
harmentalhey guys...what are fstab parameters i have to use for a ext3 auxiliary (data) partition?01:42
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nerv203Hey everyone.01:56
nerv203I have a random small question that'll make me look like a total noob.01:56
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pag!ask | nerv20301:59
ubotunerv203: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:59
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Turazooranyone used Compiz yet?02:03
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_4strOTurazoor: i use it why ?02:05
Fractionhi there, a question. When Im trying to connect to a wireless network, the computor crashes and I have to reboot.. what might be wrong? HW ?02:06
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Turazoor_4strO: just checking whether its worth the install / whether its easy to setup on Kubuntu 7.0402:07
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_4strOTurazoor: depend of your video card02:08
Turazoor_4strO: nvidia tnt2 lol!.. not to fantastic, but i beleive it's installed correctly02:09
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_4strOTurazoor: http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/8/26/The-best-way-to-install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-Feisty02:09
nosrednaekimTurazoor: thats going to be difficult02:09
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Turazoornosrednaekim: why?02:10
nosrednaekimTurazoor: its underpowered, and it requires XGL which is a bit harder to get running than AIGLX02:11
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J-23Hello! I need help.02:12
devsherifI can see that ubuntu is little similar to debian...what are the difference between them02:12
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nosrednaekimJ-23: ask!02:12
_4strO!ask | J-2302:13
ubotuJ-23: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:13
nosrednaekimdevsherif: easier to install and use.02:13
J-23In Fedora and Ubuntu, when I use it ~2 days, I see in df 100% of used space, file removing changes nothing.02:13
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nerv203Hmmm... how do I set up an account which has no sudo access?02:15
nerv203I need a new one for my mom/brother/dad02:15
nosrednaekimnerv203: any new account automatically has not sudo access02:16
nosrednaekim*no02:16
_4strOnerv203: nevermind, if you dont have the pass ...02:16
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_4strObut nosrednaekimis right02:16
aguitelnosrednaekim, hello ,how i change my letter in all the system ?02:17
nosrednaekimyour letter?02:17
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_4strOme think that aguitel has been under windows for so much time :p02:18
aguitelnosrednaekim,style of letter02:19
shinobistill not happy with compiz-fusion to be honest. tried both new release repos...seems to me that beryl last version is still better...02:20
_4strOshinobi: did you try the amaranth repo ?02:20
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_4strOaguitel: the font dtyle ?02:21
_4strOstyle*02:21
aguitelexact02:21
aguitelbecause i can not change my font02:21
_4strOK / system settings / looks and feel02:21
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aguitelnothing happens02:22
_4strOperhaps you have to restart X02:22
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shinobi_4strO have tried both amaranth and trevinho. no joy on getting the 3d plugin. without that, compiz is just not viable aletrnative02:27
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hcboxexcellent l'affichage nickel et 10k fps sous glxgears02:28
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aurelienbonjour02:41
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chairulanyone speaks indonesian02:46
nosrednaekim!in02:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about in - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:47
yamal!id | chairul02:47
ubotuchairul: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia02:47
nosrednaekim!indonesian02:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about indonesian - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:47
chairulkalo pake kubuntu gmn02:47
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J-23Hello!02:48
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J-23I have ~4,7G partition with Kubuntu (installed on Ubuntu with Aptitude)02:48
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J-23In Fedora and Ubuntu, when I have ~0,7G of free space, i can't create files/directories on normal user.02:48
ks3J-23:  a percentage is reserved for root in case of emergencies02:49
ks3J-23: but the amount can be modified with tune2fs02:49
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ChousukeJ-23: You should have more free space02:49
J-23I can't resize this partition, disk is too small.02:50
ChousukeJ-23: It may adversely affect performance if your disk is near full.02:50
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PerseidOK. I swear I had this solved once but I'm back. SB Audigy. No audio. I can play around with alsamixer but there is no udio. If I try to play audio it stops suddenly as if I've hit stop. This happens in amarok and kaffeine.02:51
CPrgmSwR2Any kde4 developers in here02:55
CPrgmSwR2I can't seem to get kde4 to start in kubuntu02:56
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nosrednaekimCPrgmSwR2: #kubuntu-devel02:59
nosrednaekim(if it gives you an eror or something02:59
nosrednaekimother wise don't go there)02:59
CPrgmSwR2its from svn02:59
nosrednaekimCPrgmSwR2: #kde03:00
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chairulhow to create link with konqueror03:00
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CPrgmSwR2nosrednaekim: I have kde4 working in gentoo03:02
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arashHi, how do i reinstall Kmix freshly?03:07
arashSo it dont remember what it had configuration03:07
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emilsedgharash: do it from adept manager...03:09
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Jucatoer,...03:09
arashok thanks03:09
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Jucatoarash: actually, all you probably need to do is03:10
emilsedghJucato: hey :P03:10
arashis....?03:10
waylandbill:)03:11
Jucatoarash: quit kmix, go to /home/username/.kde/share/config and remove the kmixrc and kmixctrlrc files03:11
Jucatomove or remove or rename03:11
Jucatothen start kmix again03:11
Jucatohi emilsedgh, hi waylandbill, hi Jucato03:11
arashOk Jucato, I give it a shot03:11
waylandbillyou said hi to yourself like 3rd person. :)03:12
Jucatooh I was saying hi to my other self :)03:12
Jucatoright Jucato?03:12
Jucatoright on!03:12
waylandbilllol03:12
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llutzoh oh, splitted personality03:12
emilsedghhow r u Jucato?03:12
Jucatoemilsedgh: depends. which of us are you asking?03:12
knowledge25khello can somebody help me03:13
waylandbillLike how I talk to myself when I need to hold an intelligent conversation? :P03:13
Jucato!somebody | knowledge25k03:13
ubotuknowledge25k: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:13
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arasharg, annoying that all files start with 'k' in config :p03:13
Jucatomakes it easier to know that they aren't gnomed :)03:13
arashuhu..., btw, don't hate me for this, but is there any way that the K 'get clicked' when you press windows/meta-button?03:14
emilsedghlol03:14
arashatm that button is useless...03:14
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Jucatoarash: there is a way. but 1) I forgot how and 2) it's quite disadvantageous03:14
waylandbillassign Alt-F1 to the windows button.03:14
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emilsedghJucato: the KDE Fanboy one :P03:15
Jucatoarash: oh  if you make it open up the K menu only, it will be more useless03:15
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arashwaylandbill , how?03:15
Jucatoarash: because right now, you can use it any combination. Win+A-Z, Win+Space, Win+Anything03:15
knowledge25ki install loooking glass to a iso cd,and i can't see to get it to install to my computer.can somebody help me ?03:15
JucatoO.o03:16
waylandbillJucato: wouldn't you still be able to use those shortcuts regardless?03:16
Jucatowaylandbill: afaik, no. although of course I might be (hopefully) wrong03:16
Jucatoit's either a modifier key or it's not...03:16
waylandbillI don't know as I can't remember the last time I've actually used that key for anything.03:16
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Jucatoarash: you can set Win+Space to launch the K Menu. though you can probably use Katapult (Alt+Space) to make things faster too03:17
Jucato!katapult | arash03:17
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ubotuarash: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.03:17
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Jucatobut in the meantime *we* take our leave03:18
waylandbilllooks like it's just a modifier key. Just assigning it to something alone isn't possible.03:18
Jucatowe'll be back!03:18
Jucatowaylandbill: it's possible to use it as a standalone key. but you lose it's modifier keyness03:18
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waylandbillsounds easier to just use Alt-F1. :)03:19
Jucatoharder to reach. Win+Space is easier hahaha03:19
Jucatook we're gone03:19
waylandbillbye jucato and bye jucato03:19
arashactually , it must be possible, since the OS can just check if meta button is in ShiftState when any button is pressed :p03:20
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arashits quite hard to how this catafult works03:20
friulhackis someone here03:21
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arashfriualhack , yes03:21
friulhackthat knows about irc channel speaking about hacking?03:21
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friulhackso?03:21
friulhack-.-03:22
friulhackno answer03:22
friulhack-.-"03:22
arashwhat? "knows about irc channel speaking about hacking" ,errr?03:22
friulhackyeah03:22
friulhacka channel03:23
friulhackwhere the topic is hacking03:23
arashaha lol03:23
knowledge25ki install loooking glass to a iso cd,and i can't see to get it to install to my computer.can somebody help me ?03:23
arash!hacking03:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hacking - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:23
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emilsedghfriulhack: Hacking, what kind of hacking? if you mean website defacing, email password cracking and..., they are not hacking, you should ask for a channel about Security, the real hacking is being usefull03:24
arashfriualhack , btw. doens't 'hacking' has thousands of meaning?03:24
friulhackhacking03:25
friulhacklike exploiting03:25
arashNaughty!03:25
friulhackbrake system03:25
friulhackdefacing03:25
Arwenhacking = making software behave in a way different than the way it was intended03:25
friulhack...03:25
arashThanks Arwen :), that makes sense03:25
friulhacki'm speaking about practic hacking03:25
Arwenwhether that's cracking payware, stealing bank passwords, or adding new features, it's all hacking03:25
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friulhackno03:25
friulhackmy hacking is03:25
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friulhackexploiting03:26
emilsedghfriulhack: thats not hacking, thats cracking...FreeSoftwareCommunity do not like Crackers...03:26
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Arwencracking is a subset of hacking03:26
sitowhat can i know the ram type... ddr or ddr2?03:26
friulhackok03:26
Arwensito, read your computer's manual03:26
arashyea, then more people use the good windows programs!!!03:26
grul!lova03:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lova - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:26
grul:(03:26
friulhackbut im looking  for a channell of hacking03:26
grul!love03:26
ubotuLove is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.03:26
friulhackwhic distro of linux do u use?03:27
friulhackkubuntu?03:27
ArwenI use Microsoft Windows.03:27
ArwenThank you very much.03:27
friulhackwinzozz sucks03:27
friulhackubuntu 4ver03:27
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Arwen^^ - statements like that are why people look down on F/OSS03:27
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emilsedghsito:  kinfocenter shows you some information03:27
sitoemilsedgh: thanks03:28
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hcboxhow can i know with kernel i'm running :D ( stupid question i know )03:28
sayersHello I'm trying to load the Disk & file system module so I can acess my 81 gig HDD. It seems not to work.03:28
emilsedghmaybe you guys want to continue this in #kubuntu-offtopic ?03:28
knowledge25ki install loooking glass to a iso cd,and i can't see to get it to install to my computer.can somebody help me ?03:29
sayersand when I try to load this I get in error saying hal-storage-fixed-mount refused 100003:29
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emilsedghhcbox: run uname -r in konsole03:29
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Arwenhcbox, uname -r03:30
emilsedghsayers: did you go to 'Administrator Mode' ?03:30
emilsedghknowledge25k: please do not repeat...03:30
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sayersemilsedgh: ofcorse. It didn't ask for anything though.03:30
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arashsayers - do you know the basic mount commands (if you don't, then I might know enough to help you out :p )03:31
sayersarash: I can mount it in root if I wanted to but I'd rather mount it a  non-sudo03:31
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arashsayers , why can't you do mount command with root? arn't  that the only way really?03:32
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emilsedghsayers: youre running live? I dunno, maybe it will be solved when its installed...03:32
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sayersemilsedgh: I've installed Gutsy03:33
friulhackfuck u03:33
PerseidSo if I have a Dapper install will I naturally update to Feisty by doing an apt-get upgrade?03:33
friulhackfuck fuck fuck fuck03:33
PriceChild!ohmy | friulhack03:33
ubotufriulhack: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:33
Jucato!language | friulhack03:33
friulhackperseid fuck u03:33
Jucatobah03:33
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ben_someones angry03:34
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PerseidActually, I think someone's 12. :)03:35
knowledge25kwell help me03:35
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PsycoshotAnyone know how to set a DVORAK keyboard??03:35
inaetyPerseid: why was he mad at you03:35
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JucatoPerseid: if you're on Dapper, you have to upgrade to Edgy before you can reach Feisty and so on03:36
emilsedghsayers: sayersdidnt it ask for password? could you try killall kdesud ?03:36
PerseidI think I was just the person who said something at the time. He was just a random spammer.03:36
emilsedghJucato: what was wrong with this guy?03:36
Jucatobeats me...03:36
Perseidjucato: And I can't do this through apt-get?03:36
Jucatoyou can. but you can't directly go to Feisty. you have to upgrade to Edgy first03:37
angelohello03:37
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CPrgmSwR2Can someone help me setup the fglrx dirvers03:37
ArwenCPrgmSwR2, been a while since I did it, but sure03:37
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CPrgmSwR2It seems that after installing them I am still usering the r300 drivers03:37
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CPrgmSwR2because on xorg.conf it has driver "ati"03:38
angelosomeone could help me in getting to #ubuntu-it?03:38
ArwenCPrgmSwR2, well, change it to "fglrx"03:38
CPrgmSwR2I did and everything got all screwed up03:38
Arwenangelo, um, /join #ubuntu-it ?03:38
CPrgmSwR2Like the windows didn't appear right03:38
PerseidSo you mean take the sources list, change it to edgy, do an upgrade, change it to feisty and upgrade again?03:38
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angeloyes03:38
inaetyPerseid: its gonna take forever03:39
angeloTHENKS03:39
JucatoPerseid: yes... you might just want to install :)03:39
inaetyPerseid: take less time to download the feisty cd and install over03:39
ArwenCPrgmSwR2, pastebin the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log (without switching back to the r300 driver)03:39
Arwenand /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:39
PerseidThat won't blast anything?03:39
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angeloarwen03:39
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Jucatoas long as you kept your /home in a separate partition, no it shouldn't03:39
inaetyPerseid: you will loose your docs or whatever, but just back up everything you need03:39
Arwenangelo, yes?03:39
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angeloI meant that03:40
CPrgmSwR2Arwen: give me a couple minutes to do that03:40
paradisehi03:40
paradisei have a problem03:40
paradiseplz can get some help ?03:40
PerseidHmm. OK. Thanks.03:40
angeloI meant i'd need to join that #03:40
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inaetyparadise: just ask your problem03:40
angeloarwen03:41
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paradisei have hd external03:41
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Jucatoangelo: just click on the channel name: #ubuntu-it03:41
paradiseand ntfs i can`t wirte/read03:42
Jucato!ntfs | paradise03:42
ubotuparadise: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse03:42
angelothanks03:42
inaety!ntfs-3g03:42
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions03:42
paradisethanks03:42
angelo:-D03:42
CPrgmSwR2http://rafb.net/p/zSF1Rp62.html03:42
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CPrgmSwR2that will be of use03:42
paradiseok i try it03:42
paradisebut not useful03:43
PerseidOK. New problem. My boot setup is root (hd0,0) and kernel root=/dev/hdc1 but every time the package manager installs a new kernel they get rewritten to (hd1,0) and /dev/hdb1 and of course it won't boot unless I change it first. Why is it doing that?03:43
CPrgmSwR2xorg.conf: http://rafb.net/p/eYChiw29.html03:43
angelodoes anyone know how to make dtagonaturally speaking running?03:43
paradisei will try again thanks03:43
PerseidIs ntfs-3g safe?03:43
angelounder linux03:43
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llutzPerseid: set groot, kopt in /boot/grub/menu.lst03:43
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CPrgmSwR2Xorg.0.log http://rafb.net/p/NfwiKx29.html03:44
Perseidllutz: Ahah. I see it. Thanks. :)03:44
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angelodragon naturally  speaking under linux i mean03:44
ArwenCPrgmSwR2, alright, one second03:45
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CPrgmSwR2lsmod: http://rafb.net/p/GLuG5351.html03:46
CPrgmSwR2I noticed that radeon is still being displayed03:46
angeloas i'm in need of a dictation program for italians03:46
CPrgmSwR2Arwen: I am going to try something brb03:46
ArwenCPrgmSwR2, ah, you forgot to rmmod the old one after installation03:46
ArwenI know what you can do03:46
CPrgmSwR2okay03:47
CPrgmSwR2what do I do03:47
inaetyangelo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16871103:47
CPrgmSwR2Do I just do a rmmod radeon03:47
inaetyangelo: follow the second post03:47
CPrgmSwR2and then do modprobe fglrx03:47
ArwenCPrgmSwR2, switch to virtual console 1, type "rmmod ati", "rmmod radeon", "rmmod drm", "rmmod dri"03:47
Arwenthen you can modprobe fglrx03:47
Fractionquestion: I have a wireless network card with the correct drivers installed, I can see the networks around me using KNetworkManage, but as soon as I choose to connect to a specifik network - sometimes the computor crashes and I have to reboot it.. what might be wrong? Thanks03:47
CPrgmSwR2okay got it03:47
CPrgmSwR2brb03:47
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ubunturosanybody with a SiS 650 graphics card (onboard?)03:47
ubunturos!SiS03:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sis - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:48
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angelothanks a LOT03:50
CPrgmSwR2Arwen: okay back03:50
Arwendid it work? I forgot to mention that you have to shut down kdm first..03:50
CPrgmSwR2How do I make usre that opengl is using ati and not X1103:50
Arwensay what?03:50
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CPrgmSwR2I got the fglrx module loaded03:50
CPrgmSwR2but still don't have dri redenring03:51
shinobiFraction sometimes the knetworkmanager and the /etc/network/interfaces conflict. in /etc/network.interfaces, you only need the lo inerface lines if you use knetwork manager03:51
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ArwenCPrgmSwR2, yeah, that was step two03:51
Arwenyou need to disable composite in xorg.conf03:51
ArwenSection "Extensions"03:51
Arwen        Option          "Composite"     "0"03:51
ArwenEndSection03:51
Arwenadd that to the end03:51
shinobiFraction if you are using a broadcom card then there are other issues too03:51
Arwenthen restart X03:52
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inaetyFraction: you should try seeing if the card works through command line without knetworkmanager...and then as long as you are connected then its an issue with knetworkmanager03:53
CPrgmSwR2Arwen: I don't even home Composite in my xorg.conf03:53
CPrgmSwR2you can check as I posted it earlier03:53
ArwenI know03:53
Fractionshinobi: thanks, not using a broadcom card though.. the strange this is that it seems to crash even when Im not using the KNetworkmanager, for instance I tried to type "ipconfig eth1 essid networkname" and it crashed03:53
Arwenit has to be explicitly disabled03:53
ArwenCPrgmSwR2, trust me, I know what I'm talking about03:53
inaetyFraction: it's iwconfig03:53
shinobiFraction yes03:54
CPrgmSwR2okay brb03:54
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freepbxguyt03:54
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CPrgmSwR2Arwen: that did it03:55
CPrgmSwR2Completely different from gentoo03:55
Arwenheh03:55
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shinobiFraction it is iwconfig, but still doesn't really explain a crash03:55
CPrgmSwR2I infact have xcomposite enabled on my getnoo install03:55
CPrgmSwR2with the latest drivers03:55
shinobiFraction but for sure check out your /etc/network/interfaces before running knetworkmanager03:55
ArwenCPrgmSwR2, blame ATI.03:55
CPrgmSwR2I keep reading about some new driver comming out, but still no new driver03:56
Arwenheh, yeah03:56
shinobiFraction then it might at least work. also be aware than the netwrok settings of the kubuntu control panels write to the /etc/network/interfaces file03:56
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Fractionshinobi I find alot of interfaces in there.. and there should only be loopback?03:56
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shinobiFraction if you use knetwork manager yes03:56
Fractionshinobi: ok thanks.. will try that03:57
shinobiFraction try saving a backup first, then remove all but th lo interface lines03:57
shinobiFraction then reboot one time and get knetwork manager up03:57
shinobiFraction may work directly that way...does for me after some mroe hacking03:58
CPrgmSwR2Arwen: at phoronix they got creative and titled an artile "One Bug A Day Keeps AIGLX Away"03:58
Arwenheh03:58
Fractionshinobi: allright thanks, trying now03:58
CPrgmSwR2Arwen: anyways thnx for the help03:58
Arwenreally, I don't even care about XComposite, I just wish fglrx had competent dual-head support and didn't run slower than Intel chips03:58
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CPrgmSwR2Arwen: I actuall want the XComposite03:59
CPrgmSwR2because there are a lot of nice features in kde4 that use XComposite03:59
CPrgmSwR2brb03:59
Arwen*shrug*, that's the last thing on my priority list though03:59
spawn57hi guys, do any of you know how I can get musicbrainz working on amarok?03:59
aguitel!gusty03:59
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ubotuIt is spelt !guTSy :)03:59
hcboxxgl uses 100% of my cpu, how can i fix it ?03:59
Arwenhcbox, turn it off04:00
ArwenWhat'd you expect?04:00
hcboxArwen: i hate Ati cards :D04:00
paradisebro is not usfel :(04:00
paradisei hope to access i do mount but i cant write and read04:00
hcboxseems to be easy to run compiz-fusion under nvidia ?04:00
Arwenmeh, nvidia has their own problems04:01
hcboxahem04:01
hcboxworking greater than ati nor ?04:01
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Arwenyes, everything works better than ATI..04:02
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hcboxlol :D04:02
hcboxgonna buy some nvidia card04:03
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bebegewasup my fellow linux users......04:04
ArwenWhat makes you think we use Lunix?04:04
freepbxguyo04:04
freepbxguyt04:04
bebegeI know most of ya'll use linux.....04:05
paradiseduh problem it never solve it :@ NTFS04:05
spawn57doubt that04:05
eagles0513875paradise: what problem u having with ntfs u want to have rw access04:05
paradiseYES04:05
paradisebut i cant04:05
paradisei have external hd04:05
spawn57paradise, you can use ntfs-3g for now =P04:06
spawn57it works great04:06
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paradisei hope04:06
bebegeso Arwen, you tryinnn' to tell me that it's not mostly linux users in here?04:06
spawn57unless you got big movie files, then it'll slow down04:06
paradisei install04:06
eagles0513875paradise: ur goign to need to use ntfs-3g04:06
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paradisebut did`t access04:06
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llutz!info gaim04:07
ubotugaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.0+beta6-1ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1700 kB, installed size 4808 kB04:07
llutz!info kopete04:07
ubotukopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 7108 kB, installed size 19632 kB04:07
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paradisesooo04:08
shinobillutzwhy is kopete that much bigger?04:08
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shinobillutz why is kopete that much bigger?04:08
paradisewhat i do to access04:08
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bebege!info konversation04:08
ubotukonversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 5038 kB, installed size 12996 kB04:08
paradisestep by step04:08
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Tm_Tshinobi: more graphics, pics and stuff, also more features, much more04:09
llutzshinobi: no idea04:09
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bebegeshinobi?04:09
paradisehello !04:09
shinobiTm_T okay. thanks04:09
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llutzshinobi: K-bloat though :)04:10
paradisenot solve ? that ntfs is big problem04:10
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Tm_Tshinobi: or have you seen webcam support in Gaim? or, have you seen this? http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/kopete-gonedark-mod-1.png (old pic, I know, ugly)04:10
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paradisecan anyone help me plz !04:11
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shinobiTm_T that's pretty.04:15
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shinobihas anyone managed to get their superkaramba themes transparent when using beryl/compiz04:20
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arashparadise, you have problem with ntfs-3g?04:23
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paradiseyees04:26
paradisei have pro with it04:27
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paradisearash hello04:27
arashHi04:27
paradiseyes how can i solve it ?04:27
arashparadise:  indeed, you must always put the one you talk to's name with it04:27
arashpress tab in your irc program04:28
arashparadise: what is your problem?04:28
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paradisearash my problem with ntfs i have external hd and i cant access rw :(04:29
arashparadise:  have you installed ntfs-3g ?04:29
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arashparadise: do you use Kubuntu?04:30
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paradisearash yes i have  yes04:30
idanamoshiiiii  guys04:30
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paradisearash i use kubuntu04:30
BluesKajHowdy All :)04:30
idanamosdo i need anti virus for ubuntu?04:30
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arashparadise: hmm... tried something as simple as K -> System -> ntfs-3g configuration?04:31
arashidanamos , this Kubuntu channel, definetly not if you only get programs form the apt-get04:31
paradisearash yes but not reaspont04:31
paradisearash sorry for my english04:31
arashidanamos , antiviruses is stupid on windows, and is far stupider on linux systems.. (my opinion)04:32
BluesKajparadise, only if you are accessing a windows partition/pc from linux...a possible malware transfer could happen04:32
Raleskhi all; I have my windows fonts installed and a few of them (particularly the otherwise excellent Lucida Sans Unicode) don't seem to come with bold versions -- how can I get Konqueror to fakebold/fakeitalicise all the fonts that miss such versions?  Firefox gets it right, but that might be because of Pango.04:32
bebegewhich antivirus is best for linux... can anyone tellll me?04:32
paradisearash idon`t know04:32
BluesKaj!clamav04:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about clamav - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:33
BluesKaj!antivirus04:33
arashparadise: hmm, nothing happens when you press 'configuration for NTFS-3g'?04:33
ubotuantivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus04:33
paradisearash but i use this command kdesu konqueror media:/ i read but i did`t write04:33
paradisearash no nothing04:33
sayersbebege: You do not need antivirus since it would only be useful for scanning windows04:33
bebegeso you ar tellin' me that with linux an antivirus is a waste of time?04:34
arashparadise: pastebin your /etc/fstab04:34
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arashbebege  and money ;), yes, it's even that on Windows :p04:34
paradisearash ok thin ?04:34
arashparadise: you know what pastebin is?04:34
paradisearash loooooooooool no04:35
arash!pastebin |paradise04:35
ubotuparadise: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:35
BluesKajarash, not true about windows ..avs do help04:35
bebegearash how come?04:35
arashgrab all text in your /etc/fstab text file and paste it there04:35
paradisearash ahh ok wait04:35
shinobiBluesKaj can do...or can not, depending on the software04:36
arashBluesKaj , bebege , well ok, they are good if you dont get slowed down. But It's my oppiinion04:36
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BluesKajarash, don't make rash statements pls :)04:36
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soccermike1337Does anyone know how to install the intel wireless a/b/g driver?04:36
shinobiBluesKa jarash : symantec employee???04:37
paradisearash http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36186/04:37
arashBluesKaj, whatever, this isn't Windows channel anyway :p04:37
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paradisearash sdb1 is a partion04:37
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BluesKajyes, but ppl come here for good advice , nothing wrong with expressing opinuions as long as you say so in the statement and not afterwards.04:38
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soccermike1337i need help with install the intel wireless 3945 a/b/g driver04:38
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arashBluesKaj, you are right, sorry then...04:38
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paradisearash :) take ur time bro04:38
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BluesKaj!patience | soccermike133704:38
ubotusoccermike1337: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:38
BluesKajnp arash :)04:39
soccermike1337:P04:39
soccermike1337sorry04:39
soccermike1337a lot of people talk in these channels, and sometimes questions aren't read04:39
BluesKaj!wireless | soccermike133704:39
ubotusoccermike1337: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:39
paradisearash did u read a fstap ?04:40
arashBluesKaj: Im no expert, so I can't give any really direct things to change in the fstab, and you souldnt04:40
arashi meant to say to paradise04:40
paradisearash lol ok04:40
arashbut you can try this paradise04:40
paradisearash what is this ?04:41
Raleskparadise: what's your problem with ntfs-3g again? I came in after your conversation started04:41
BluesKajuhhmm , fstab ...arash ?04:41
DrOnlinesoccermike1337: Should just be modprobe ipw3945 (I think :P)04:41
paradiseRalesk i now04:41
soccermike1337whats that?04:41
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arashBluesKaj, i wrote to wrong person...04:41
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DrOnlinesoccermike1337: the intel wireless driver.04:41
paradiseRalesk i try but not usfel04:42
soccermike1337i have the driver tgz or whatever it is from intel for linux04:42
soccermike1337but im not sure how to compile it and stuff04:42
DrOnlinesoccermike1337: it should already exist as a module on your system.04:42
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soccermike1337oh04:42
Raleskparadise: it looks weird that you have references to something like /s/hd/whatever... I've never seen such directory before in my life04:42
soccermike1337how do i enable it?04:42
enojIn the vim installed in my kubuntu system, ":syn on" doesn't work .. tells me the command is not available .. why ?04:42
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DrOnlinesoccermike: "modprobe ipw3945" (assuming that's the right card)04:43
paradiseRalesk emmmmmmmmmm04:43
arashparadise, start the K -> system -> systemawatcher04:43
soccermike1337yes it is :P04:43
arashthere look if ntfs-3g configuaration is already running, terminate it, it might stopping u form using it04:43
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soccermike1337so i hit alt+f2 and type in modprobe ipw3945?04:43
paradisearash what a sys ?04:43
Luismihow i can change desktop with keyboard?04:43
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DrOnlinesoccermike1337: you'll have to use sudo: "sudo modprobe ipw3945"04:44
arashparadise:  'ksysguard' then look over processes04:44
DrOnlinesoccermike1337: but yes, that's the gist of it04:44
paradisearash ok04:44
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Raleskoh ar.  the last line in your fstab, paradise...  take out the utf8 part, and write into the ,-separated options: locale=en_US.utf-804:44
RaleskI'll paste the correct line in a sec04:45
llutzLuismi: ctrl-F1-x04:45
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arashparadise, hmm, I think Ralesk can help you better ;)04:45
Ralesk/dev/sdb1   /mnt/Part1   user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000,locale=en_US.utf-8   0   004:45
paradiseRalesk ok i will try04:45
paradisewait04:45
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bebegecan anyone andwer this, foes viruses have effect on Linux?04:46
bebegedoes*04:46
paradiseRalesk ok done04:46
Raleskparadise: or anyway, type first "locale" in the shell and tell me what stands after any of the LC_somethings.04:46
llutz!virus | bebege04:46
ubotubebege: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2104:46
paradiseRalesk i change it04:46
arashbebege , the reply by ubotu is actually the best one probably04:46
paradiseRalesk and what else ?04:46
Raleskgoody, work?04:46
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bebegeyea...04:47
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Raleskparadise: what does your locale say, just to check?04:47
paradiseRalesk nothing just do this and click ctrl+o04:48
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Raleskwhat's ctrl+O? :)04:49
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paradiseRalesk to save what i do04:49
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Raleskah04:49
paradiseRalesk nano -w /etc/fstab04:49
Raleskcould you please tell me one line from the output of the locale command?04:49
boguhis the konquerer view profile still a modified profile compared to the kde standard profile?04:49
paradiseRalesk and do what u say04:49
BluesKaj!viruses | bebege04:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about viruses - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:49
bebegedoes anyone know if alcohol works with Linux? if not, you know any alternative software?04:49
BluesKaj!virus | bebege04:50
ubotubebege: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2104:50
paradiseRalesk hmm i don`t understand :X04:50
Raleskopen konsole04:50
Raleskand write: locale04:50
paradiseRalesk ok04:50
Ralesktell me one -- any -- line of its output04:50
paradiseRalesk aha wait04:51
BluesKajbebege,  making ISO files ?04:51
paradiseRalesk http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36188/04:51
paradiseRalesk hmm04:52
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Raleskthanks04:52
llutzalcohol works OS-independent... :)04:52
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paradiseRalesk u are welcome04:52
Raleskthen we wrote the right locale in your fstab, that's good04:52
paradiseRalesk :D04:52
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paradiseRalesk i here great sound :P04:52
arashlol, did Ralesk thanks and paradise say 'u are welcome' :p? what happend here ^^ ?04:53
paradiseLoooooooooooooooooooooooooooL04:53
Raleskmy problem with your fstab is lines 13 to 15 --- I particularly don't get that magic there04:53
BluesKajreally llutz ... never liked that app ... too clunky04:53
paradiseRalesk Hmmmmmmmmmm04:53
llutzBluesKaj: i mean fluid alcohol ;)04:53
llutzBluesKaj: i don't know an app with that name04:53
Raleskis Alcohol this iso-mounting fake cdrom drive creating software?04:54
bebegeyea....04:54
BluesKajok llutz , the clunky part come later :)04:54
Raleskllutz: :))04:54
bebegethat's it....04:54
llutzloop-mount the iso files should do04:54
Raleskbebege: I don't know any linux alternatives, but a google search could bring up a few04:54
BluesKajerrr comes later04:54
paradiseRalesk wait04:54
bebegecool......04:54
BluesKajthere are some iso maker apps for linux04:55
BluesKajKiso for one04:55
Raleskon windows I always used another program, but I can't remember the name right now x.X04:55
paradiseRalesk loooooooooooool /s/hd i do it04:55
llutzdd, cat, readcd04:55
paradiseRalesk loooooooooooool  i enter a sys > disk > and do it !04:55
Raleskparadise: I think I don't understand ^^;04:56
paradiseRalesk loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool04:56
llutzparadise: your keyboard is broken04:56
paradiseRalesk  no my english is broken04:56
BluesKajalcohol 120% is old clunky software , even on windows04:56
RaleskGAH, I hate when I can't remember something x.x04:57
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RaleskI think that other software starts with a D  o.o04:57
Raleskanyway, paradise: ummmm, so those lines are... you wrote them in fstab, trying to get something to work?04:58
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paradiseRalesk  k > system setting > advanced > disk & filesystem and i do /s/hd mount to some partion04:58
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Raleskah04:58
paradiseRalesk  im new in linux :S04:58
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RaleskI have certainly never heard of a device that's called /s/hd :)04:59
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Raleskdoes it even work? :)04:59
paradiseRalesk  no04:59
Raleskokay, I was scared for a moment that it would, lol04:59
paradiseRalesk lol04:59
Raleskjust delete those three lines with /s/hd in them04:59
bebegeBluesKaj is kiso good? do you use it?04:59
Raleskthey're bollocks04:59
paradiseRalesk okk05:00
paradiseRalesk wait05:00
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Raleskwait05:00
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Raleskline 12.05:00
BluesKajyes to both questions bebege05:00
Raleskno crap, 13 XD05:00
paradiseRalesk ok ok05:00
paradiseRalesk any /s/hd05:01
bebegeyou use it from konsole, or is it comand line based?05:01
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Raleskparadise: wait, I'll correct the fstab on pastebin05:01
paradiseRalesk ok ok05:01
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bebege<BluesKaj> you use it from konsole, or is it comand line based?05:02
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Raleskbebege: that question doesn't make sense05:02
bebegehow come?05:03
BluesKajbebege, the first time you use it from the cli as sudo, then afterwards from the gui05:03
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bebegeoh zeen...05:03
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Raleskbecause konsole is... the command line :)))05:03
bebegeoops.... my bad....05:03
Ralesk:)05:03
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Raleskparadise: what kind of file system is on /dev/hda5 ?05:03
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BluesKajbebege, it will be located in the k-menu/utilities05:04
bebegeI'm pretty new to linux, I only installed linux over the weekend....05:04
paradiseRalesk this a file system :|05:04
bebegeso, I'm just learninnn' here....05:04
berkessuddenly my kmail 'lags' enomously. It sits, idling, for 20 secs or more. Yet the load is not hight at all. Nor is kmail (ab)using the CPU;05:04
berkesanyone ever encoutered a similar issue?05:04
paradiseRalesk swap05:05
berkesit looks as if kmail waits for some dcop call to return a value or so05:05
Raleskhmm05:05
paradiseRalesk hmm05:05
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Raleskbut you already have a /dev/sda5 entry for swap...05:06
paradiseRalesk h,mmm05:06
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Raleskberkes: well, I'm using gutsy right now (because I love living on the edge) and something I noticed is kmail opening hundreds of kio-pop3 processes and effectively killing the system after a while -- of course this may not apply to you05:07
paradiseRalesk i will misstake when i install linux :(05:07
Raleskparadise: open konsole and write: mount  -------- then pastebin its output please05:07
paradiseRalesk ol05:07
paradiseRalesk ok05:07
berkesRalesk: well, the thing is, kmail does not use any resources while idling.05:07
berkesIt just hangs.05:08
RaleskSomeone please try to think about my initial question? :)  >> I have my windows fonts installed and a few of them (particularly the otherwise excellent Lucida Sans Unicode) don't seem to come with bold versions -- how can I get Konqueror to fakebold/fakeitalicise all the fonts that miss such versions?  Firefox gets it right, but that might be because of Pango.05:08
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Raleskberkes: ah, I see05:08
berkesIt hangs so bad that closing it results in the KDE window asking me I I want it killed.05:08
crazy_buswhat's the difference between the commands halt and poweroff?05:08
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berkesbut the weird part is that it uses effectively no CPU at all.05:08
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paradiseRalesk http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36191/05:09
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paradiseRalesk im sorry to make u tierd05:10
Raleskah, indeed no swap05:10
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paradiseRalesk hmmm05:11
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berkesaah. Found it. somehow kolab was toggled on in settings, but I have no kolab server. So it waited for the server, till it timed out.05:13
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Raleskparadise: I'd like the output of: sudo parted /dev/sda print05:14
paradiseRalesk ok wait05:15
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paradiseRalesk http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36195/05:15
Raleskexcellent05:16
paradiseRalesk :D05:16
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Raleskhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36196/ -- try this fstab > paradise05:18
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Raleskanyway, I bbl, food time05:18
Fusion`^hi. how do i take a screenschot of the shift switcher in action? thanks05:18
cbtis155COMO SACO LA DIRECCION IP DE MI MAQUINA05:18
paradiseRalesk ok wait05:19
cbtis155HEY05:19
cbtis155PELENME05:19
cbtis155O QUE NO ABLAN ESPANOL05:19
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llutz!es | cbtis15505:20
ubotucbtis155: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:20
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paradiseRalesk ok i will05:21
paradiseRalesk thin05:21
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paradiseRalesk hmmm05:22
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KotenokHi!05:23
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Kotenokneed some support help05:24
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Kotenoksomebody can give me some advices?05:24
paradisehmm wait them05:24
paradisei wait them too05:24
Kotenokshit05:25
Kotenok:P05:25
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paradiselol05:25
Jucato!language | Kotenok05:25
ubotuKotenok: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:25
paradisewhat ur problem ?05:25
Phoenix_Firehello05:25
Jucato!somebody05:25
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?05:25
KotenokI'm with problems after the installation of kubuntu05:25
paradisehello 205:25
paradisehmm05:26
Kotenokthe grub doesn't launch anytime05:26
vistakillerwhy?05:26
paradiselool05:26
vistakillerkotenok why?05:26
Kotenokalready did 3 times the install05:26
vistakillerafter update?05:26
paradiseim new in linux05:26
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vistakillerok try to install it from alternate live cd05:26
KotenokI recovered windows activating the partition in the mbr05:26
JucatoKotenok: what happens when you restart after installing?05:26
paradisejust one week ago05:26
Kotenokbut linux doesn't appear nowhere?05:26
vistakillerthe grub always install in your primary hard disk05:27
Jucato!es05:27
Phoenix_Firei have some problem with kaffeine 0.8.6svn. and the xinePart, if i would watch a tv channel, kaffeine says, there is no XinePart05:27
Kotenokwell message is in spanish " there is no operating system found"05:27
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:27
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Kotenoksomething like grub didn't appear in the active partition as boot loader05:27
juan_i want to recover files i lost when i was messing around with my home partition, can anybody recomend a good foresnic tool?or guide?05:27
KotenokI don't know05:27
KotenokI wanted to try linux by kubuntu05:27
Kotenokannd this is a bad surprise05:27
KotenokI see, but nothing launch there05:28
paradiseRalesk where are u05:28
paradiseduuh05:28
vistakilleryou try to install it in the same disk with windows?05:28
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paradisethis os is scary !!05:28
Kotenokno, in an ext3 partition05:28
paradisei dont understand any things05:28
Kotenokafter the windows partition05:28
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JucatoKotenok: you could also try the Spanish channels if you want05:28
Kotenokin serial ata05:29
vistakillerin the same hard disk?05:29
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Kotenokso sda(0,1)05:29
paradisevistakiller can u help me ?05:29
Kotenokin spanish chanel there are all sleeping05:29
KotenokI understand well english05:29
juan_Kotenok: all hard drives are hd in grub05:29
Kotenokin the same hard disk05:29
Kotenoki did the partitions beforehand with partition magic05:29
Kotenokin xp05:29
vistakillerhow many hard disk you have in your system?05:30
Turazoorcan someone tell me the lib i need to install for restricted media i.e. MP3 support?05:30
Kotenokonly 205:30
Kotenokone dedicated to documents05:30
vistakillerwhich is the primary?05:30
Kotenokanother for systems05:30
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JucatoTurazoor: libxine-extracodecs05:30
vistakillerand both is sata?05:30
juan_there should be a file called mapper in /boot/grub it will tell you the grub name foe a linux name partition05:30
TurazoorJucato: cheers05:30
Phoenix_Fireturazoor, lame05:30
Kotenokserial ata is the primary05:30
bXiman libxine is annoying05:30
Kotenokthe other one is ide05:30
Kotenoknot very good working05:30
bXiit triggers my highlight05:30
JucatoPhoenix_Fire: that's for encoding. where did you get kaffeine svn?05:31
Kotenokvistakiller: any suggestion?05:31
TurazoorPhoenix_Fire: lame?05:31
vistakillerwait a minute05:31
JucatoTurazoor: LAME = Lame Ain't an MP3 Encoder05:31
Kotenokwith pleasure if I get a good idea ;)05:31
JucatoTurazoor: it's basically an MP3 encoder :)05:32
TurazoorJucato: sweet lol05:32
JucatoTurazoor: you only need it for making mp3, not playing them05:32
Jucatohence. "encoding"05:32
Kotenokthe challenge to instal dual boot hehe05:33
Turazoorok further question seeing as #networking aren't answering, anyone know why i can see my win xp shares but when i goto look the other (win xp to ubuntu 7.04) i get prompted for a username and password05:33
JucatoKotenok: not sure why you're having problems though. I always install with a dual boot and had no problems. sorry couldn't help05:33
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Kotenokwell, I'm maybe with trouble at what to do with logical partition or primary05:34
vistakillerthe problem i think is tha the grub is think that ubuntu is to other partition05:34
Kotenokbut tryied already several times05:34
vistakillerfrom this that have you install it05:34
Raleskparadise: I'm back now05:34
Jucato!info kaffeine-xine | Phoenix_Fire05:34
ubotuphoenix_fire: kaffeine-xine: Xine engine for kaffeine media player. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 198 kB, installed size 596 kB05:34
Kotenokand fu...ng message of that there is no system appear05:35
vistakillerthe solution is to edit the grub file05:35
Kotenokaha05:35
Kotenokand how is what I can-t know_05:35
Kotenokwell, some tutorial_05:35
Kotenok?05:35
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vistakillerwait i will look05:36
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Kotenokjust with previos distributions while I was studding linux was not a trouble, but kubuntu looks the best :)05:36
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vistakillerand is the best05:37
Kotenokso it means after install kubuntu, don't lose the calm05:37
michelhello everyone... I am new to this linux thing and I was wondering if there were any good how to linux websites out there for kubuntu... Thanks...05:37
Kotenokedit grub and will work?05:37
Kotenokyes, looks logic05:37
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Phoenix_Fireubotu, but i have installed kaffeine 0.8.6svn05:37
jhutchinsmichel: There's a lot of stuff on the ubuntu web pages, especially the wiki, and there's http://tldp.org for more general knowledge.05:38
waylandbillmichel: http://linuxbasics.org is a good starting place for learning the underlying system behind the desktop05:38
micheloh and i am switching from Vista to Kubuntu...05:38
Kotenokgreat idea!05:38
Kotenok;)05:38
michelwaylandbill: thanks... I will look at it right now05:38
Jucato!ubotu | Phoenix_Fire05:38
ubotuPhoenix_Fire: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:38
jhutchinsmichel: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html05:38
micheljhutchins: thanks...05:39
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vistakilleryes and try to set another disk for your linux05:39
vistakilleri dont know how you can edit grub05:39
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Kotenokwell, as I had expirience in the red hat, somebody can tell me there is also some similar microsoft commands in shell from kubuntu?05:40
vistakilleri think you must use your live cd and do it05:40
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Kotenoki'll do05:40
Kotenokbut the way is what I don't know05:40
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kkathmanedit grub by using sudo kate and edit /boot/grub/menu.list05:40
Kotenokhow to enter to it?05:40
kkathmanI think thats it05:40
Jucatokdesu kate05:40
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jhutchinsKotenok: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html05:40
Kotenoksudo kate... it's a texxt editor?05:40
kkathmanmenu.lst I mean05:40
kkathmannot list05:40
Kotenokfine :)05:41
JucatoKotenok: kate is the text editor05:41
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Kotenokthanks for the website05:41
waylandbillKotenok: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/unix_for_dos_users.html05:41
kkathmanbut you need to knw what yer doin05:41
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KotenokI imagine05:41
Kotenokanyway05:41
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Kotenokalways can rollback activating win partition again05:41
paradisebaaaack05:41
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Raleskwb05:41
Raleskhow did the fstab changing go?05:42
KotenokI imagine that gnome don't know where is the kubuntu really05:42
Kotenokbut it's very strange05:42
KotenokI mean05:42
RaleskKotenok: I don't particularly understand what you just said, to be honest05:42
gridl0ckkotenok, reboot with your win cd and run a repair to restore your win mbr05:42
gridl0ckmight make your life easier05:42
Kotenokkubuntu just installed, the manager choosed a partition and grub doesn't take this information?05:42
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paradiseRelesk i restart thin nothing a mount in desktop and not found now05:42
Kotenokwell, there is better way to use the win cd05:43
gridl0ckkotenok, also read up on how to dual boot to kubuntu05:43
Kotenokjust boot editors05:43
Kotenokthat can repair the mbr05:43
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KotenokI did05:43
gridl0ckyou could use erd 200505:43
Kotenokbut they don't talk about suposed problems05:43
paradiseRelesk that problem is not solve :(05:43
waylandbillKotenok: windows cd? my dog liked it as a frisbee for a day. :)05:44
Raleskparadise: pastebin the output of "mount" again please05:44
Phoenix_Firei have often the problem, that the passwort windows is missing and the application like adept-manager hangs, has any one the same problem? (i use kubuntu x64)05:44
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Angeluslol!! waylandbill05:44
paradiseRalesk ok05:44
Kotenokwell with cd's can do what want, but say him not to lick it05:44
Kotenokcan get cancer05:44
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Angelusyeah, or virus in his intestines05:44
waylandbill:)05:44
paradiseRalesk what a wep site ?05:44
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Raleskstill http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ :)05:45
Kotenokwell, let's write down how to edit grub file05:45
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Angeluskdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.1st05:45
Angelus*.lst05:45
Angelus:/05:45
Kotenokthanks05:46
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paradiseRalesk http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36199/05:46
Raleskhmm, does "mount -a" say anything?05:47
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paradiseRalesk wait05:47
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Briocheheelo05:47
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Kotenokwell, let's launch live cd05:48
paradiseRalesk http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36200/ this05:48
Kotenokis something happen will appear05:48
Kotenoksee you all !05:48
Kotenokthanks for the advices05:48
Kotenokvistakiller: thanks, hope to edit the grub file propperly05:48
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Raleskparadise: then I believe you know what to do ^_^05:48
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BriocheI'm looking for an idea to show a webpage on the desktop (with superkaramba ... ?)05:48
vistakillerok bye :)05:49
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Raleskgo boot to windows and have it clean it up; after that you'll be able to mount the partition in linux05:49
paradiseRalesk what ?05:49
paradiseRalesk how ?05:49
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paradiseRalesk :| how i clean ?05:51
Raleskwhat how?  Just boot your windows -- if there's something bad on the ntfs drive, it should fix it on its own (or in worst case you'll have to chkdsk it)05:51
Ralesksorry, takes a while to type :P05:51
paradiseRalesk looooooool05:51
paradiseRalesk no how to boot my windows05:51
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paradiseRalesk or how i clean ?05:51
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Phoenix_Firecya05:52
Briocheis there someone to help me .... ?05:52
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paradiseRalesk i tell u im new in linux just one week05:52
PerseidHi. I upgraded to Feisty and now my Audigy has no audio.05:52
paradiseRalesk or 5 days05:52
Raleskwell, no idea -- I thought you had both windows and linux on your computer05:52
paradiseRalesk nooooooooooo05:53
paradiseRalesk just linux05:53
Raleskah05:53
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Raleskwell, then05:53
paradiseRalesk idon`t like windows many problem05:53
bebegepeople, anyone here can tell me how to install the damn Kiso? I got it in tarball formatt...05:53
Raleskplenty enough problems with linux too XD05:53
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Raleskanyway05:54
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paradiseRalesk yes05:54
TunaTombebege: have you ever compiled anything from source?05:54
llutzbebege: sudo aptitude install kiso05:54
RaleskI don't know this "ntfsfix" software, so other than telling you to try it, read its manual... I can't say anything05:54
paradiseRalesk hmmmmmmmmm05:54
Raleskdo you want to write to the ntfs partition, anyway?05:54
paradiseRalesk i will try05:54
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paradiseRalesk no i want read my hd05:55
Raleskonly read then05:55
Raleskokay05:55
Raleskopen your fstab05:55
paradiseRalesk ok05:55
Raleskand in the line that mounts the ntfs partition (the last line), replace rw with ro05:55
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Raleskthen you should be fine without ntfsfix05:56
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PerseidIt may or may not be related but I also have a broken package. ia32-libs won't install because libaudio.so.2.4 is aleady in ia32-libs-openoffice.org05:56
paradiseRalesk /dev/sdb1   /mnt/Part1   ntfs-3g   user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0  this ?05:56
Raleskthat line, yes05:57
benpiccohi, I have a problem getting my printer rpinting, I always get the error "E [03/Sep/2007:17:51:33 +0200]  Unable to open job control file "/var/spool/cups/c00012" - Permission denied!" in the error_log05:57
Ralesk/dev/sdb1   /mnt/Part1   ntfs-3g   user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000,ro   0   0   <-- correct version05:57
Brioche.. a plus tard !05:57
paradiseRalesk ok thin i restert a05:58
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paradiseRalesk what this command for ? kdesu konqueror media:/ ?05:59
Raleskopens media:/ in konqueror, but asks for the superuser password before06:00
paradiseRalesk i know06:00
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Raleskthen, why did you ask?06:00
paradiseRalesk when i mount i click in the drive so tell me access denid then i search for fix a problem it tell me use this command06:01
RaleskRetry #3  >> I have my windows fonts installed here in Kubuntu and a few of them (particularly the otherwise excellent Lucida Sans Unicode) don't seem to come with bold versions -- how can I get Konqueror to fakebold/fakeitalicise all the fonts that miss such versions?  Firefox gets it right, but that might be because of Pango.06:01
Raleskparadise: oh06:01
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Raleskwait a sec then06:02
paradiseRalesk ok :|06:02
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bebegethanks guys....06:02
bebegethe sudo apt-get install worked....06:03
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llutzbebege: always try to use apps from the repos before using 3rd party or tarballs06:03
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paradiseRalesk i can`t06:03
paradiseRalesk i must register06:03
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paradiseRalesk wait for register06:04
bebegeyea....06:04
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bebegeI just didn't know that Kiso would have been there....06:04
llutzbebege: aptitude search <search-pattern>06:04
Ralesknot on IRC, dude :)   and reply in the priv msg window, not on the channel06:04
drmartinsLinux the best:)06:04
drmartinshi all)06:05
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bebegehow comes kiso can't create images of audio cds?06:08
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llutzbebege: that wouldn't make sense, use ripped wavs instead06:09
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bebegedoes that create images?06:11
bebegelike ISO images...06:11
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thornsI need to report a bug for kwalletmanager on Gutsy. How do I get about that? kwalletmanager is not registered in the list of packages.06:11
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Biovoreyou can do and ISO wit the following..   dd if=/dev/<cdrom> of=/home/<username>/file.iso06:12
Biovorethorns: try lunchpad06:12
Biovore!lunchpad06:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lunchpad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:12
llutzbebege: audio-cd don't contain an iso-filesystem so you can't make iso from them. ripp your cds to wav/ogg/mp3/flac or whatsoever06:12
thornsBiovore: That's what I'm saying, the package is not listed06:12
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Biovorethorns: whats the bug with kwalletmanager?>06:13
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thornsFolders like "share" and "env" get created in my ~/. Anyone ever experienced that?06:13
thornsBiovore: up ^06:13
Biovoreyeah.. I have noticed thoses problems as well06:13
thornsAnd also06:13
thornsshare gets created for gtk themes06:13
Biovoreyup06:13
Biovoreand kmenuedit is borked out of the box as well06:14
ymsgyup yup06:14
Biovorethere are a list of them..06:14
ymsgyup yop yup06:14
thornsIt was created after I installed a GTK theme06:14
ymsgbiovore yup or what06:14
ymsgyup or yup06:14
BiovoreI think I'll pick yup06:14
Biovore:-P06:14
thornsSo what's to do? Has this been reported?06:14
ymsgwtf this yup word06:15
thornsymsg: it's upyours in reverse and in shorter version :D06:15
thornsIf you guys know this bug, then I'm ok06:16
ymsgthorns behave06:16
dhqis there any djminxing software06:16
dhqis there any djmixing software06:16
thornsymsg: I didn't misbehave :)06:16
thornsdhq: Yup :D06:16
dhqthorns, tell me06:17
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thornsdhq: But haven't checked on them for a long time. Look at the DeMuDi, Agnula, and other studio oriented distros if you want a list of packages.06:17
Biovorethorns: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+package/kwalletmanager06:18
Biovoreits part of kde-utils06:18
dhqthorns, isint it there in the repos06:19
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thornsdhq: I don't know, haven't looked into Ubuntu Studio06:20
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dhqthorns, well these are seprate packages06:20
thornsBiovore: but where do I report the bug, the Bugs tab is disabled06:21
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Biovorethorns: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/06:22
BiovoreBugs tab not gray here..06:22
Raleskthorns: sure you're logged in to launchpad? :)06:23
thornsRalesk: Yes06:24
Raleskweird06:24
Biovorecan try ubuntu+106:24
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BluesKajpersonally launchpad is basically just srying towel ... where are the fixes to the complaints that are posted there ...ppl want a solution , not comiserate with others that have the same problem.06:29
BluesKajcrying towel06:29
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kkathmanBluesKaj:  best to discuss that in #kubuntu-offtopic, not here :)06:32
BluesKajnaw kkathman , that's my rant and warning about how useless it is to complain on launchpad06:33
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BluesKajit' not offtopic IMO06:33
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kkathmandoes very little to rant in here - best in --oftopic06:33
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edulixhi06:44
edulix which command can I use to show information about my computer? like information about the memory modules it has etc06:44
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Carnage\edulix: Take a look at /proc06:46
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Carnage\There are several files as /proc/cpuinfo /proc/meminfo and so on containing the information06:47
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edulixCarnage\: uhm, not enough info :P06:48
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hayami!pastebin06:51
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:51
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hayamihi i have a problem with frostwire can anyone help me?06:52
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bebegewhat problem you havin'?06:55
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hayamithis man06:56
hayamihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36207/06:56
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hayamiat first i initialized with the frontend but nothing happened, then y did it in console and that's wath appeared06:57
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bebegeI had that problem....06:58
bebegeyou need Java webstart 606:59
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bebegesudo apt-get install javawebstart606:59
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NickPrestahayami, I also advise you not to run something like Frostwire as root. There is no reason to.07:01
nosrednaekim0.o07:01
hayami=o07:01
hayamithanks both friends!07:02
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danielroninhi, can anyone here tell me what i need to do to open a listening port for azureus?07:03
NickPresta!ports | danielronin07:03
ubotudanielronin: For instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall07:03
kkathmandanielronin:  typically its a matter of addressing your router/firewall and just opening those ports07:04
danielroninNickPresta: thanks07:04
kkathmandanielronin:  you'll also have to set those ports in azurues of course :)07:04
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danielroninwhat kind of firewall does a vanilla install of kubuntu feisty use by default?07:06
llutzdanielronin: none at all07:06
NickPrestadanielronin, I believe it doesn't have any "on" but there are iptables if you want to use them07:07
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danielroninstrange that the router's blocking listen ports from this computer, a desktop behind the same router works fine07:09
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danielronini'll have to poke arond abit, thanks for the info guys :)07:09
bigdaveHi all!  Does anybody know how I can move my Kubuntu Desktop install from one HD (failing) to a new one without having to reinstall everything?07:10
llutzdanielronin: maybe the other pc uses upnp07:10
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bigdaveWould a cp -vax from one to the other (and a GRUB reinstall) work?07:11
llutzbigdave: do it from a live-cd, cp -a should do it07:12
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bigdaveOkay thanks!  You rock! :)07:12
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bigdavellutz:  Do I need the -x to avoid it from copying data that's really remotely mounted NFS shares?07:18
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llutzbigdave: that why i recommend a live-cd to copy. no mounts, no problems :) but -x would work if mounts are there07:19
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bigdaveOh yes, that's right -- they wouldn't be there with the Live CD -- <my duh!>  Thanks again for all the help!07:20
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halohunterhello07:33
halohuntercan some one help me07:33
NickPresta!ask | halohunter07:33
ubotuhalohunter: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:33
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halohunteri need help with setting up team speak on my cpu07:33
bebegewhat problem are you havin'?07:34
halohuntermy mic set don't work07:35
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halohunterits an a4 type model HS5007:36
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Biovorehalohunter: what sound card you got?07:36
halohunterits an a4 type model HS-5007:36
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halohunterwait 1 sec07:37
halohunter nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio07:37
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Biovorehalohunter: you trying to tun UT and TeamSpeak at the same time?07:38
halohunterwhats UT07:38
BiovoreUnreal?07:38
Biovoreor wine and some windows game?07:38
halohunterno i have got no sound to work on head set yet plugged in to front ports07:39
Biovoretry the rear07:39
halohunterok07:39
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Biovorehalohunter: You will probably run into problems with running 2 sound sources at once.. the nvidia sounds cards don't do pcm mixing07:40
halohunterin07:40
halohunterlame07:40
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Biovoreyou can do software mixing if you force all your apps to use alsa07:40
X2BBut what do you mean by 'mic set'?? Can't people hear you or can't you hear other people?? Is that a ts specific problem or doesn't it work in general?07:41
halohunterhow do i do that07:41
Biovoreelse you may get werdness with only 1 app getting access to sound..07:41
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waylandbillI'm trying to look at java applet in Firefox and even though aptitude says that sun-java6-jre is installed, firefox says that it's not. Is this some known issue?07:41
BiovoreI use Teamspeak here on linux while playing UT2K407:41
Biovorewaylandbill: sun-java6-pluygin07:41
Biovoreplugin07:41
FireCrotch_I just bought a new laptop, with an integrated wireless card, and I can't get the wireless working.  it seems as if Kubuntu doesn't even know its there07:41
BiovoreFireCrotch_: lspci show it?07:42
halohunterim trying to get return to castel wolfenstein :ENEMY TERRITORY on ts07:42
waylandbillBiovore: thanks.07:42
FireCrotch_it sees it as an Unknown Ethernet Device07:42
Biovoreyeah.. it can work.. but I think Enemy Territory is OSS only.. not alsa..07:42
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BiovoreThe creative audigy cards support pcm mixing.. they have no problems..07:43
halohunterok but i could use ts in alsa right and it would both work07:43
Biovoreteamspeak dosn't do alsa eather07:43
halohuntershit07:43
FireCrotch_Biovore: I know it's an atheros-based card07:43
BluesKajwaylandbill, check for java-common and j2re1.407:43
Biovorethere is a wrapper that can wrap oss apps and emulate them to alsa..07:43
Biovoresudo apt-get install alsa-utils <-- I think07:44
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FireCrotch_06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. Unknown device 001c (rev 01)is the output from lspci concerning the wireless card, I think07:44
waylandbillBluesKaj: Biovore gave me the correct answer.07:44
halohunterbut how do i do that07:44
Biovorethen "aoss <application that uses oss>07:44
Biovore"07:44
halohunterthat wrapper07:44
BluesKajyeah good, waylandbill ...was on the phone ...a lil slow responding :)07:45
halohunterok07:45
BiovoreI have got that to work.. but it glitches sometimes..07:45
hayamifrostwire isn't running07:45
hayamiwhat i should do07:45
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Biovorehalohunter: If your going to game on linux.. your best bet is to get an audigy4 card..07:46
NickPrestahayami, what seems to be the problem?07:46
Biovoreor SB live!07:46
X2Bquestion: I am using the totem plugin with firefox to play videos, but when I am trying to play a video it is always lagging. What can I do to make it work properly??07:46
Biovoreanyway I am out..07:46
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NickPrestabye Biovore07:46
BluesKajX2B, on the web or on your 'puter?07:47
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X2Bweb... I suspect you have to set up some kind of buffer...07:47
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BluesKajX2B, install the flashplugin-nonfree for sites like youtube07:48
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BluesKajand mplayer and w32codecs for windows media07:48
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hcboxIs it possible to share a network drive between two ubuntu computer07:49
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X2Bin that case it is not flash but DivX...07:49
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DexterFhi07:50
DexterF!joystick07:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about joystick - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:50
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Max-PWho know how to install CodeBlocks on Kubuntu? I need help :(07:51
BluesKajX2B, install ffmpeg for divx and xvid07:51
DexterFso, I got a CH Flightsick, analog, attached to a  SB 10k1. gameport module is there, 10k1_gp is there, no device tho07:52
DexterFwhat to do?07:52
ch40s_whats the command to open a text editor with wine?07:52
Max-Pch40s -> try "wine notepad"07:53
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kkathmanwhy would you need a text editor in wine?? lol07:53
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ch40s_i dunno07:53
Savakwhy would you need wine lol07:54
ch40s_lol07:54
ch40s_to run pokerstars and fulltilt07:54
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X2BI installed ffmpeg, but it doesn't seem to make a difference. How can I change which plugin is used within firefox??07:55
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kevin__Hello07:57
NickPresta!hi | kevin__07:58
ubotukevin__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:58
Max-PCan someone help me? I need help to make Code::Blocks working07:58
kevin__I just recently installed kubuntu to try it out. I've used ubuntu for a while and am used to gnome. I'm trying to d/l and change themes at kde-look.org and can't figure out where to install/setup themes. Anyone know how this works?07:59
BluesKajX2B, in the FF addressbar type, about:plugins make sure you have the flashplugin-nonfree listed , if not install it08:00
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Max-Pkevin__ -> K Menu > System Configuration <-  I think it's here08:00
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kevin__I have k menu > System settings, is this it?08:01
Max-Pyes08:01
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kevin__Max-P: ok, I go there, and there's a "look and feel" area, the appearance area can change themes but there is no obvious area to install new themes08:02
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X2Bso i can change the suffixes for the plugins to work differently??08:03
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ubuntuhello08:10
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Savakheya08:11
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Max-PCan someone help me with Code::Blocks???08:12
NickPresta!ask | Max-P08:12
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Max-P?08:13
carlos_buenas, me echais una mano?08:13
elite101!ask08:13
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elite101the bot is sleeping08:13
elite101!adeptfix08:13
carlos_tengo el sonido instalado y hasta ayer funcionando ...08:13
carlos_pero hoy ya no escucho nada08:13
BluesKaj!es | carlos_08:13
carlos_los parlantes estan bien conectados y funcionan08:14
carlos_el volumen esta a tope08:14
elite101the bot is broken08:14
elite101:(08:14
elite101!wakeup08:14
carlos_sorry!!!08:14
elite101!ubuntu08:14
elite101opps08:14
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BluesKajcarlos #kubuntu-es08:14
elite101!ubotu08:14
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encom#UBUNTU-ES08:16
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Max-PCan someone help me with Code::Blocks???08:17
elite101nope08:18
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elite101dont know how08:18
elite101[Whois]  ubotu has been idle for 12 minutes and 34 seconds.08:18
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Max-PI got an error: (codeblocks:6416): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_window_realize_icon: assertion `info->icon_pixmap == NULL' failed08:19
elite101what are code::blocks?08:19
dthackerMax-P: perl module?08:19
BluesKajMax-P, what were you doing when the error happened ?08:19
runleveltenisser IDE innit.08:19
Max-PNothing08:19
Max-PI started Code::Blocks08:19
Max-Pand08:19
Max-Pgot the error08:20
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Max-PI think it's the "Tip of the Day" box08:20
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meuhlolplease someone know how to restore GRUB? After PC reboot my grub tell me Error 15 - File not found08:21
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Savakmeuhlol - you got grub recovery disk?08:22
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NickPrestameuhlol, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows08:22
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elite101hey school starts tomarrow *time to bring a copy of Kubuntu to school and install it on my Computer @ school :P*08:25
ichhallo08:25
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meuhlolSavak no08:25
NickPrestaelite101, I did that and they tried to suspend me for putting a "virus" on the computer. Lucky the VP knew of "u boon toe". hehe08:25
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elite101lol08:26
elite101i will do it thou08:26
elite101i play halo in class lol sometimes08:26
elite101with my friends Halo1demo08:26
elite101my HDD is 70gig its on a server @ school that thecomputers access i wil make a partition and then this way i can boot off it08:27
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elite101so Kubuntu will be installed on the HDD and i can access the Kubuntu from anycomputer around the school with my User/pass08:27
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Savakyour school networks must suck to let you do that lol08:28
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elite101lol yes08:29
elite101they dont execpt you to learn about computers08:29
elite101i can outsmart the people who setit up probably they will see thou that partition *EXT3/Swap* lol08:29
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elite101the delete my halo1.exe so i hid it in teachers docuements08:29
elite101they*08:29
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Savaklol thats so lax08:30
Arwen!offtopic08:30
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!08:30
Arwenstupid talk goes to offtopic please08:30
Savakeye eye! :P08:30
elite101alreite08:30
elite101alrite*08:30
NickPrestaelite101, I don't know how your school works but my school board has a strict policy. Any tempering with the computers (formatting, etc, etc) and you're suspended for vandalism. Something to keep in mind...08:30
elite101mhm i should ask the school to partitipate in linux08:30
elite101lol08:31
NickPresta!botsnack08:31
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!08:31
NickPrestayay.08:31
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elite101i will remember they use a program called netsupport school pro its so made for windows it monitors Internet exlporer and not firefoxi found this out lol myspace/downloads for mee* i use firefox they think im on a *google page on IE* lol there so dumb*08:32
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Arwen*sigh*...08:32
elite101sorry*08:32
NickPrestayes, !offtopic. we will stop :)08:32
elite101im going to off-topic now*08:32
albertociao08:32
albertoce qualcuno che parla italiano?08:33
NickPresta!it | alberto08:33
ubotualberto: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:33
albertoio sono su ubunto08:33
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AlexGuapo85ey08:33
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AlexGuapo85pando beta its ready for linux !08:34
albertoscusa mi puoi dire come faccio a cambiare la consonante Y con z08:34
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NickPrestaalberto, I only caught some of that (I know minimal italian) but you should really go to #kubuntu-it. They can help you better.08:35
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albertociao a tutti08:36
elite101 what is a free program in windows to run Kubuntu on the desktop?08:37
ArwenVMWare?08:37
Arwenbut why?08:37
NickPresta!it | alberto08:37
ubotualberto: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:37
albertosiiii sono su ubuntu08:37
elite101Arwen, for school08:37
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NickPrestaalberto, tipo /join #kubuntu-it08:38
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mugwortthello08:42
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NickPresta!hi | mugwortt08:42
ubotumugwortt: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!08:42
mugworttthx08:42
mugworttis konversation the best irc client for ubuntu ?08:43
mugworttin order to dl on xdcc and fserv08:43
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NickPrestamugwortt, this is the Kubuntu channel. Kubuntu and Ubuntu are different. I assume you meant Kubuntu since you mentioned Konversation. At any rate, it depends on your needs. I really like XChat and irssi.08:45
underdog5004NickPresta, irssi doesn't depend on any gtk libs, does it?08:45
mugworttha it s kubuntu, sorry08:45
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NickPrestaunderdog5004, `apt-cache showpkg irssi`. I don't believe it does, but double check.08:46
mugworttis there french channel ?08:46
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NickPresta!fr | mugwortt08:46
ubotumugwortt: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:46
underdog5004NickPresta, I was just wondering, cause you said xchat and mentioned gnome...lol08:46
mugworttreally thx !!08:46
mugworttaurevoir ^^08:47
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NickPrestaunderdog5004, well, xchat-gnome is different than xchat, AFAIK08:47
underdog5004oh, gotcha08:47
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cheweyhi.08:52
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cheweyI'm having some trouble on Feisty with the automounter:08:53
NoldoaranI just installed a new video card and got it working, but now my sound doesn't work. (both my sound and video used the built on intel chipset before). How can I use my intel chipset for audio, but  still use the new nvidia video card? Is it possible?08:53
cheweyA UDF DVD is not mounted, but I get asked what to do with en "unmounted DVD"08:53
cheweywhere do I have to kick to make it work?08:53
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soulrider_!themes08:54
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy08:54
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Angeluswhat Window Decoration does kubuntu use by default?08:58
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NickPrestaAngelus, kwin08:59
Angelusno the Window Decoration dude08:59
Angelusof the toolbar08:59
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gaiteruCrystal (Angelus)09:01
NickPrestaah, sorry. I was confused09:01
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NickPrestaI don't know the default. Plastik > all. :)09:01
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dudeicleshello folks09:04
NickPresta!hi | dudeicles09:04
ubotududeicles: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:04
dudeiclesi'm trying to get kubuntu to mount my 2 backup hd's every boot09:05
dudeiclesit's weird, sometimes they show on boot and sometimes they don't09:05
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dudeiclesany reasons why that would be?09:05
cheweyanyone?09:05
jussi01!mount09:07
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter09:07
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NickPresta!fstab | dudeicles09:07
ubotududeicles: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions09:07
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cheweywell duh - I know that. manually mounting the DVD (either as /dev/dcrom or as /media/... or as .../scd0 etc. doesn't work either)09:08
cheweyI suspect there's something wrong/missing for UDF support (I installed udftools)09:09
cheweythis however is a very fresh installation, so basically erversthing should be set to defaults09:09
dudeiclesNickPresta: I went to the advanced tab of system settings and I see my hd's just it won't let me enable them there.09:09
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NickPrestadudeicles, are you root?09:10
dudeiclesno i'm not09:10
dudeiclesi guess i should be?09:10
dudeicleslol09:11
NickPrestadudeicles, on the Disk & Filesystem screen, click on "Administrator Mode", enter your password and then try.09:11
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dudeiclesit won't let me.09:12
dudeiclesjust puts a red box around everything and only lets me choose close09:12
NickPrestadudeicles, so after you enter your password, there should be a red outline, but the window should come back and allow you to edit stuff. Does this not happen?09:13
ArwenHow do I get kscreensaver to lock the screen as soon as it enters screensaver mode?09:14
dudeiclesit doesn't even ask me for my password09:14
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contrast83dudeicles: Close System Settings, run command: kdesu kcmshell mountconfig09:14
dudeiclesk09:14
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contrast83Arwen: check "Require password to stop"09:15
Arwencontrast83, I did that09:15
Arwenand it still doesn't lock09:15
ArwenI tried setting the timeout to "1"09:15
Arwenand it still doesn't lock09:15
BluesKajdudeicles, try this in the konsole , you could have unfinished installs or removals ' sudo dpkg --configure -a '09:15
contrast83Arwen: It doesn't lock at all, or the password prompt just doesn't come up until you move the mouse?09:15
Arwenit doesn't lock at all09:15
NickPrestaArwen, it works fine for me (my timeout is 10 seconds). What happens when you lock your computer?09:15
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Arwenif I hit the actual lock command it locks09:16
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Arwenif I walk away and wait for kscreensaver to start, it fails to lock09:16
NickPrestaarwen, let me test09:16
dudeiclescontrast83: that may have worked I will reboot and let you know.09:17
gaiteruBye bye!09:17
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NickPrestaArwen, I just tried it (1 minute screensaver with 10 second timeout) and it worked flawlessly.09:18
Arwenwtf...09:18
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ArwenGAH09:20
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rdvo1how do i change my monitor resolution in kde????!?09:27
NickPresta!resolution | rdvo109:27
uboturdvo1: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:27
NickPrestagah. nevermind those09:27
rdvo1My pc monitor is saying the signal is overrange, even though it isnt :\09:28
rdvo1*the resolution is too high.09:28
NickPrestardvo1, in your KMenu, there is a System Settings application. Open it, and click on Monitor and Display. Adjust properties in there.09:28
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rdvo1heh, I just installed kde on a regular ubuntu install, do you think I could've missed the package ;)09:29
emilsedghrdvo1: go to settings:/ (from konqueror)09:30
rdvo1k09:30
emilsedghrdvo1: then go to peripherals->monitor and display09:30
rdvo1I don't see any peripherials button :\09:32
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Aranelhey, i maked a .deb package(for Western Quake 3) , and it works. How can I share it or send to ubuntu repos ?09:33
emilsedghrdvo1: settings:/Peripherals/09:33
nosrednaekimrdvo1: if you have the space, I would reccomend just installing kubuntu-desktop09:33
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nosrednaekimAranel: www.getdeb.net09:34
Arwen!maintainer | Aranel09:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about maintainer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:34
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Arwen!maintainers | Aranel09:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about maintainers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:34
Arwen..............09:34
Arwenanyway, you would have to apply to be a maintainer09:34
AranelArwen: lol :)09:34
rdvo1I think I have a kubuntu cd lying around some where..09:35
rdvo1:\09:35
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NickPrestaAranel, check out motu. They are responsible for package management and such.09:36
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mathieu__anyone knows of a script that would replace the folder icon for every subfolders in a given location for the first image it finds in that folder (or amarok's cover for the album located at that particular folder...)?09:36
AranelNickPresta:  Arwen: nosrednaekim: thanks :)09:36
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nosrednaekimrdvo1: I don't mean reinastall.... just run "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"09:37
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hernansaludos09:38
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mathieu__or rather.. anyone knows where this setting is stored at all?09:39
mathieu__(the folder custom icon..,)09:39
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Repsa_Jihin the folder file, i think?09:39
mathieu__Repsa_Jih: .DS_store?09:40
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Repsa_Jihi don't know, possibly09:41
mathieu__hmm binary file09:41
Repsa_Jihis this for use with amarok?09:42
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Repsa_Jihbecause i know of an amarok-specific script09:42
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mathieu__no its for konqueror / dolphin09:43
mathieu__but i wish it could "feed" from amarok09:43
Repsa_Jihhttp://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Amarok+Folder+Icons?content=6284409:43
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labhi09:45
Repsa_Jihi think i found a solution in the source of that script, mathieu_09:45
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mathieu__Repsa_Jih: ok i will look inside09:46
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Repsa_Jihthe function on line 17109:47
Repsa_Jihif you know a little python, you'll get it09:47
Repsa_Jihah, i have it09:48
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Repsa_Jihyou just have to edit the file09:48
Repsa_Jih.directory in the directory09:48
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Repsa_Jihyou should add something like09:49
Repsa_Jih[Desktop Entry] 09:49
mathieu__but thats weird09:49
Repsa_JihIcon=icon_name09:49
mathieu__I set some folders icon and I dont have a .directory09:49
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Repsa_Jihhmm09:50
Repsa_Jihcreating one works for mee09:50
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Repsa_Jih*me09:50
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mathieu__ ok thanks it works09:52
droachim having a big problem and i need help09:52
mathieu__however I still wonder where its set when doing it by the GUI09:52
mathieu__thanks09:52
Repsa_Jihno problem :)09:52
rdvo1droach: what is the problem?09:52
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droachim trying to dual boot feisty and windows xp pro i install windows xp first then kubuntu, kubuntu starts fine but windows xp gets umountable boot volume09:52
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droachive searched the forums and have not found an answere09:53
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rdvo1droach: how did you install feisty?09:53
droachlive cd graphical resize partitions09:53
rdvo1droach: hmm.. I've never heard of a problem like this before, I dualboot with xp myself09:54
ScorpKingdroach: have u tried to run chkdsk on windows? it might pick up whatever is wrong and fix it. it's a common problem on xp.09:54
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rdvo1but didint he say he cant get in xp?09:55
ubuntu_hello09:55
ubuntu_i have problem with grub09:55
droachwhere do i run it from the windows xp installtion cd09:55
NoldoaranI'm having problems with sound, I've followed the sound troubleshooting page, but I get some errors when I use mod probe for my sound driver. see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36221/ what do these errors mean?09:55
ubuntu_after installing i got grub erorr 2109:55
ScorpKingdroach: boot from the xp cd. select the first repair option to get to console.09:55
droachlet me try that i will brv09:56
droachbrb09:56
ubuntu_anyone know fix for gurb erorr 21 problem09:56
ubuntu_ ?09:56
ScorpKinggoogle for that...09:56
ubuntu_yes i did that09:56
ubuntu_i found something09:57
ubuntu_on ubuntu forum09:57
rdvo1I think I had that problem in fedora core :)09:57
rdvo1Never did find a fix..09:57
ubuntu_all that i find is to try setup again a grub09:57
NickPrestaubuntu_, setup GRUB again09:57
ubuntu_but that didn't fix problem09:57
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NickPresta!grub | ubuntu_09:58
ubotuubuntu_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto09:58
ScorpKingi had it in kubuntu. think its a problem with partitions. cant remember.09:58
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NickPrestaubuntu_, check the Recovering Grub link.09:58
rdvo1ubuntu_: this looks helpful, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=27150509:58
ScorpKingubuntu_: is the boot partition active?09:58
ubuntu_yes09:58
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ScorpKingmmm. dont know then.09:59
ubuntu_ok thanks for linx09:59
ubuntu_links09:59
ubuntu_i am going to chek it out09:59
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ScorpKingubuntu_: also try http://www.mepis.org/node/733010:01
vgegotta love bad nerd humour10:01
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newsenseubuntu_: using raid at all, or a mobo with onboard raid?10:01
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pafnutiyhello! can anyone recommend me local net browser for linux (lanscope analog), which is downloadable in Synaptic? im new to ubuntu10:01
rdvo1firefox!!10:01
rdvo1:)10:01
rdvo1or wait...10:01
rdvo1nevermind..10:01
ScorpKinglol10:02
ubuntu_hm i dont know my mainboard is msi p965 ne10:02
ubuntu_neo10:02
ubuntu_with ide hard disk10:02
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pafnutiyanyone can help?10:02
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rdvo1ok I'm going to reboot into the kubuntu live cd.. brb10:03
BluesKajpafnutiy, samba and to browse smb4k works well10:03
ScorpKingi'm kinda screwed. haha. my disk is in 2 partitions. / = 2.5gb and /home is 9gb. / only have 20mb free. can i use qtparted to resize without loosing data?10:03
droachi tried to run the chkdsk and it said--the volume appears to have one or more unrecoverable problems10:04
BiovoreI use the kde thing for browsing samba10:04
Biovoreour just type in smb://<machine_name>10:04
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ScorpKingdroach: run dskchk /F10:04
BluesKajBiovore, what kde thing ?10:04
ScorpKingdroach: sorry, chkdsk /F10:05
BiovoreBluesKaj: smb:/10:05
newsensekonquerer?10:05
Biovoreyes..10:05
droachthere is no chkdsk f only p and r10:05
ScorpKingthen use p10:05
droachand i tried r (for repair and it dosent work)10:05
BluesKajBiovore, how ?..never tried it10:05
droachneither worked10:06
ScorpKingdroach: you have to tell it to repair. if you dont it wont.:)10:06
BiovoreBluesKaj: open konqueror.. it come up in the front page thing.. select network folders then samba10:06
ScorpKingdroach: gimme a sec10:06
BiovoreBluesKaj: or just type smb:/ as the url in konqueror10:06
droachi did and it just says the same thing10:06
BluesKajok thx Biovore , I'll check that out10:07
ScorpKingdroach: it is chkdsk /F. make sure ur on drive c:10:08
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BiovoreMost kde apps can handle samba like a remote filesystem..  Same with ftp and sftp..10:08
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droachmy bad i forgot to change the drive letter its actually H: for some odd reason10:08
ScorpKinglol10:08
droachi dont do windows very much... the only reason why im doing this is so i can play Bioshock10:08
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Biovoreyeah.. have to use windows for bioshock10:09
ScorpKinganyone know how to resize partitions without loosing data?10:09
droachit finished but it still says it has one or more unroverable problems10:09
encom#ubuntu-es10:09
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ScorpKingdroach: thats odd10:10
ScorpKingdroach: try chkdsk /F /X c:10:10
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Biovoreits windows.. format it and reinstall..10:10
Biovore:-P10:10
ScorpKingtrue10:11
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mikkohm, any ideas how could i get my rear speakers to work?10:12
ScorpKingplug them in. :-D10:12
mikko:P10:12
NickPrestamikko, you're going to have to elaborate. What is wrong with them?10:12
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droachi had ubuntu on my machine and tryed to install windows xp second but for some reason it just kept rebooting to setup is inpecting your computers hardware even with the cd taken out...i couldnt even boot to ubuntu10:12
mikkowell, im likely lacking some driver or such10:12
mikkodo note, just recently installed kubuntu, not too familiar with this stuff10:13
ScorpKingdroach: its because windows replaced the mbr10:13
Biovoremikko: yeah.. not all sound cards in linux can do surround..10:13
dwidmanndroach: installing windows second makes things difficult, it should have been installed first.10:13
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NickPresta!sound | mikko10:14
mikkoBiovore: figures10:14
ubotumikko: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP310:14
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newsense!Players10:14
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs10:14
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droachit didnt work god i hate windows10:15
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ScorpKingdroach: same message?10:18
atomicpotatoemilsedgh, yeah, sure..10:18
droachanother thing i have a 500 gig hdd and when i tried to install xp on it by itself it said that it was only 130 gb also, if xp is install first why is it at drive h10:18
droachyes10:18
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=== newsense doesnt have enough system resources to irc and web surf at the same time, lol
droachsame message this is such crap10:18
newsensegames not an option really10:18
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ScorpKingdroach: try to google for that error. there is a way to restore the mbr on winxp but rather u than me.:)10:19
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droachhow do people use this junk on an everyday basis.. you cant even do simple stuff without problems10:19
emilsedghnewsense: I played CS, chatted in irc and browsed web with 333mhz (1-2 years ago), whats wrong with that?10:20
inaety_newsense: what are tiy running10:20
inaety_you*10:20
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Savakrestore mbr on xp needs 98 boot disk with fdisk10:21
inaety_droach: you can just use windows then10:21
newsenseemilsedgh: i got a 550MHz10:21
droachthats what im talking about dont jump into stuff if you dont know the whole conversation10:21
newsenseit aint that quick10:22
ScorpKingSavak: i dont think a fat boot disk will pick up ntfs partitions.10:22
Savakall you need to do is 'fdisk /mbr'10:22
droachinaety_:thats what im talking about dont jump into stuff if you dont know the whole conversation10:22
ScorpKingo ya. lol10:22
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inaety_droach: what did i miss? that you wanted to play bioshock...10:22
droachdid a fix mbr and still got the same message10:22
Savakmmm bioshock :)10:23
newsenseis bioshock a first person shooter  ?10:23
droachfreakin crap i cant believe people pay for that junk10:24
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Savakyes newsense10:24
ScorpKingdroach: about a year ago the was a virus that caused that error on about 13 machines i had to fix. i used chkdsk. not sure why it doesn't work for you. good luck. :)10:24
newsenseSavak: linux game ?10:24
Savakno, unforunetly it's a 'game for windows'10:25
newsenseSavak: sorry i tried to check the website out but it was too flash intensive for this slow piece a junk, lol10:25
Savaklol yeah I hate game websites10:25
droachi know its supposed to fix it ive done it a trillion times but theres always something.  freakin windows want even recognize that my drive is 500 gigs but the bios and linux does10:25
droachwont*10:25
newsensebios updatr ?10:25
ScorpKingno10:25
droachthe bios and linux does10:26
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ScorpKingfind another game :D10:26
newsensei meant has he have th elatest bios ?10:26
droachif the bios knows its 500 gigs why should i update it10:26
ScorpKingif it used to work then it must work now.10:26
newsensecould be a known issue10:26
newsenseim just trying to offer a suggestion, it wouldnt hurt10:27
droachcould be that windows is a piece of beetle dung10:27
newsenselol, thtas more plausable10:27
ScorpKingdroach: it might also be if u have more than one primary partition. windows doen't like that.10:27
ScorpKingsure is10:27
Savakare you using raid droach?10:28
droachoh we got a smart guy in here10:28
newsenselol10:28
droachit just so happens my last name is Roach10:28
ScorpKinghaha10:28
droachhavent heard that one since kindergarden10:28
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=== Savak is lost :P
droachim just gonna install fiesy again run my setup scripts and forget it..i should have known not to try and soil my computer with such rubbish such as windows10:30
ScorpKingthats what i did on my laptop. never been more happy...10:31
droachim on my laptop now it has fiesty on it never have anyproblems10:32
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ScorpKingonly problem is i have to run dreamweaver for an asp website :(10:32
droachtry to put windows xp on a more than vista compliant machine and it acts like pissed on it10:32
vgewhats wrong with installing windows as seperate install?10:32
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droachi was going to use one of my spare drives but there all ide and i have no ide channels on this computer except for cdrom drives :(10:33
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=== newsense got a dlink g wireless adapter and can connect to my gf's wireless network from my house across the street, 30 investment total :)
vgei just got one free old server machine with only scaci drives, guess i have to learn how to use em someday :)10:34
newsensefree machines are the best10:35
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ScorpKingso true. never paid for one. :)10:35
vgeye, too bad it's faster than my own machine, makes me kinda think i need to upgrade my current10:35
droachi feel like a need a damn shower from touching my keyboard with windows on the screen10:36
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ScorpKinglol10:36
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droachlooks like im going to be messing with wine for the next month trying to get that to play10:37
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blekoshi, how can i find the path to kernel?10:37
droacheven if i could just get madden 2008 to work i will be fine10:37
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ScorpKingdroach: use vmware. it woks for me10:37
droachdoes it detect your video card?10:38
ScorpKingwhat card do you have?10:38
droachand old 6600 gt 25610:38
droach256 mb10:38
ScorpKingit might but it's a bit slower10:38
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ScorpKingyou'll have to install vmware tools10:39
droachi was thinking of booting into a minimal X session and running from there that usally is abit faster than booting into the entire desktop10:39
droachand what about controllers?10:39
ScorpKinglike?10:40
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droachjust a cheepo ps2 style usb controller10:40
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ScorpKingmight have a small problem with that. usb support isn't too great.10:41
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droachim willing to run a damn citrix server in my house to play bioshock10:41
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Savaklol the only way bioshock will run properly is on vista or a 36010:42
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droachvista is such a joke10:42
Savakindeed10:43
ScorpKinggive vmware a try and see how it goes. i'm happy with it.10:43
droachi took there cetified vista operators beta test a work (where i work is a beta site) i scored an 833 out of 1000 and i had never even seen the junk before10:43
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droachso im certified on an os that ive never used10:43
SavakI use it for directx10 and thats it10:44
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soccermike1337How do I install zsnes?10:44
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ScorpKingcheers all. have fun! :D10:46
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droachive got to geet this windowws dirt off of me bye all10:46
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sayerssoccermike1337: go to add/remove and search for zsnes and then check and install10:47
parsniphi all10:48
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parsnipsoccermike1337: try sudo apt-get install zsnes10:49
soccermike1337thanks10:49
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ryarenhi10:51
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ryarenHow can I check my hard disk's ID number?10:52
ryarenlike UUID=10EDB1A87BB94AA110:52
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vgeryaren: u mean /dev/disk/by-id?10:53
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ryareni don't know10:54
atomicpotatoryaren, either "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid" or "blkid"10:55
vgeow yes, there is folder for uuid too, my bad ;)10:55
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sayersim in gutsy and when I try to configure kopete and press okay or cancel it goes kabam10:57
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parsnipIs there any way to set a picture as a folders background image in feisty?10:58
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newsense_!edgy10:59
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the 5th release of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes10:59
sayersnewsense_: ?10:59
newsense_im bored10:59
newsense_lol10:59
sayersparsnip: yes but it'd require a little bit of work. Really only a little bit , move it to the folder where the pix maps are stored10:59
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parsnipsayers: ok then what11:01
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raynerd#ubuntu11:02
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sayersparsnip: I dont know exactly how i'm just guessing. let me try11:03
parsnipok i thought you knew11:03
parsnipi'll google some more, just wondered if anyone knew11:03
sayersparsnip: okay properties then click on the folder icon then go to other and press browse11:03
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parsnipthanks for your time :D11:03
hilander_hi11:04
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krisxhello11:04
sayersparsnip: that worked for me11:04
=== hilander_ hat gerade sein erstes Unix auf seinem Rechner... *freu*
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sayershilander_: what language is that ;)?11:04
hilander_cya11:04
hilander_German11:04
hilander_sayers11:04
sayers!ge11:04
ubotu      #ubuntu-ge - ~ For Georgian language support, please join #ubuntu-ge11:04
encomhello  i need help instaling coyote any  can help me11:04
parsnipsayers: is that just for that folder?11:04
zdenekmluvi tu nekdo cesky?11:05
sayersOh :*(11:05
encomany11:05
hilander_I wanted to say, that I'm proud, having installed my first Unix-System on my computer. ;)11:05
parsnipsayers: its cool man, i'll dig it up yet11:05
sayersparsnip: it worked for that folder, do you mean you want a whole nother icon set11:05
encomhelp  in coyote11:05
sayersparsnip: well I've probably done it before11:05
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krisxyes yes every winblows computer should have linux just sso it doesnt rot there brain11:06
=== Savak[afk] Bioshock... :)
=== newsense_ wishes he was playing bioshock :P
parsnipsayers: i was after changing the background of a folder to the album art of the album the mp3s are from11:07
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johnseb__hi al11:07
johnseb__all11:07
johnseb__i need help configuring kdm auto-login on my ubuntu box11:07
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johnseb__i've configured the kdmrc file using the control panel but it changes absolutely nothing11:08
MetaMorfoziSjohnseb__ > you need to check /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc11:08
newsense_parsnip: could you make a copy of the folder icon your using add the albu cover to the bg in pimp ?11:08
MetaMorfoziSand google ( i can't tell more )11:08
sayersparsnip: oh thats possible, just right click the folder -> properties then press other icons -> browse and click the picture11:08
johnseb__MetaMorfoziS: yes, that's what i did11:08
newsense_err gimp11:08
johnseb__MetaMorfoziS: the problem is that I guess ubuntu starts up with gdm and not kdm11:09
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MetaMorfoziSjohnseb__ > then try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm11:09
parsnipnewsense_: i'm considering it ;)11:09
MetaMorfoziSit's asks you for the default login manager11:09
MetaMorfoziSthen select kdm. or what you want.11:09
parsnipsayers: i'll try it11:10
newsense_parsnip: sounds like the only way, i know of nmo other way to do it11:10
newsense_parsnip: kind of a lotta work if ya got a big collection11:10
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smallfoot-Kubuntu will be FUCKING AWESOME with KDE4 :D11:10
=== newsense_ cant wait for kde4
PriceChildsmallfoot-, lets watch the language and stay on topic please.11:11
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smallfoot-ok11:11
smallfoot-KDE 3 sucks11:11
parsnipnewsense_: I need a project :D11:11
smallfoot-KDE4 is sweet!!!!!11:11
parsnipsmallfoot-: I'm waiting until its released proper11:12
newsense_parsnip: i might do it too, sounds nice11:12
parsnipsmallfoot-: does look tasty though11:12
sayerssmallfoot-: kde 3 does not suck, if it wernt for kde3 we wouldnt have kde411:12
PriceChild!offtopic11:12
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ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!11:12
smallfoot-kde3 its slow as hell, start KDE3 takes like 1 minute to load all stuff11:12
sayersnot really11:13
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smallfoot-and KDE3 looks buttugly11:13
smallfoot-the blue icons are horrible11:13
smallfoot-KDE4 with Tango icons will be beautiful11:13
sayerssmallfoot-: Okay please #offtopic11:13
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encomcoyote linux info11:14
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encomany11:15
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drewcipher__!coyote11:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about coyote - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:15
encomyes11:15
g011umhi11:16
sayerssmallfoot-: how would I even install kde4 on Gutsy?11:16
encomi only  need a proxy cache server11:16
encomfor help  my  broadband11:17
newsense_sayers: i think its kde4base-dev11:17
igorhi11:17
sattyCineva din romania ?11:17
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igorcan someone by chance help me with a little beryl problem? :)11:17
igorthe window border dissapears after installing beryl11:19
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inaetyigor, i have that error as well...quite annoying11:19
ch40s_replace --beryl -c emerald &11:20
sayersnewsense_: thats it?11:20
ch40s_igor:11:20
igorsec, will try that11:20
m_helo11:20
ch40s_try it in run, alt+f211:20
newsense_sayers: i believe so11:21
igorcould not run specified command11:21
ch40s_errr11:21
igorin console it gives "[1]  11899"11:21
ch40s_beryl --replace -c emerald &11:21
ch40s_in alt+f211:21
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newsense_sayers: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.1.php11:21
igorhmmm something happened, :)11:22
igorbut dint solve the problem11:22
igoronly made thigns slower :)11:22
igori havent setup emerald yet11:22
igormaybe that's why11:22
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ch40s_oh well emerald is gonna be your window borders11:23
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igorhmm11:23
smallfoot-KDE3 sucks, cuz it has legacy qt3, it has blue ugly icons, and it uses Konqueror as a file manager11:24
smallfoot-KDE4 will be awesome, cuz it uses qt4, has nice tango icons, and uses Dolphin as file manager11:24
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smallfoot-make the bootloader fail-safe11:24
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sayerssmallfoot-: First of all please go to offtopic youve said this 1000 times and you can change the icons, and dolphin isnt that nice.11:25
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newsense_sayers: thank you, lol11:25
holycowhey guys11:25
holycowanyone know how to remove all gnome desktop related components at once?11:25
sayersdo a fresh install of kubuntu?11:26
igoremerald is seriously resisting any attempts to set it up11:26
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inaetyholycow: maybe "sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop"11:26
holycowsayers: too much work11:26
holycowinaety: aptitude does recursive uninstalls? really?11:26
holycowsweet, thx11:26
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inaetyholycow: oh no11:26
inaetyidk11:26
inaetybut it should remove the meta package of ubuntu-deskto11:27
inaetyp11:27
parsnipsayers: its working. The folders look ace11:27
holycowthats totally usefull11:27
sayersholycow: aptitude is a lot better than apps for when packages break11:27
holycow;)11:27
sayersparsnip: great11:27
holycowi thought there was some apt command that checked all metapackage pullins and reversed that11:27
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igorch40s: doenst work :(11:29
ch40shave u tried loading compiz?11:29
igorborders still dissapear11:29
igori tried compiz fusion11:29
kofanyi start kubuntu in rescue mode can somebody tell me how istall drivers for geforce?11:29
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inaety!nvidia11:30
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:30
ch40shrm, i dunno11:30
kofanyyh,11:30
igorch40s mind if we talk in another window?11:30
ch40sive only used compiz and beryl in ubuntu fiesty11:30
ch40snope11:30
igorsec, need to register11:30
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Aondowhat was that name for the new spell checker in kde4? memory is a bitch :P11:31
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igor_bah, all nicks taken :)11:32
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ch40s!beryl11:32
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects11:32
ch40s!compiz11:32
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:32
igor_swas it beryl --replace --c emerald &?11:33
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newsense_!dolphin11:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dolphin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:34
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jhutchinsAondo: Dunno, #kubuntu is still on 3.5.7.  Try #kde.11:36
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MinatakuHm11:37
MinatakuWhat are these strange new device entries?11:38
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MinatakuI've got "1-3" "2-3" "5-1" "5-1.1"11:38
mikkohm, how can i set myself right to actually do something with my other hdd?11:38
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mikkothis doesnt make any sense to me ._.11:39
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MinatakuOh11:41
MinatakuThey're USB devices11:41
MinatakuOkay11:41
Minatakulol11:41
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CppIsWeirdi was looking at the System Properties window and noticed that I have a constant stream of 700-1000 b/s coming in. How do i track down what application is recieveing this data?11:53
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Savakbrb11:54
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meuhlolSomeone can help me to restore my GRUB step by step please? I'm currently on LiveCD11:55
jbrouhardflaccid: I finally fixed the problem.  Tho i had to use an app called "KillDisk" to destroy any and all data on the SATA drive :(11:55
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KiryHello !11:56
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KiryCan someone help me ?11:57
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CppIsWeirdyou're 4th in line.11:57
CppIsWeird:P11:57
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KiryI just want to get the original design of logout window of KDE11:58
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encom#ubuntu-es12:02
KiryNobody can tell me how to do ? :(12:03
ScorpKingi've tried qtparted and partlogic but neither can resize my ext3 partitions. :( any ideas?12:03
CppIsWeirdScorpKing, dont resize.12:03
ScorpKingi have to12:04
CppIsWeirdi dont believe you12:04
ScorpKing20 mb free12:04
ScorpKingon / and 4.5 gb on home12:04
jhutchinsScorpKing: You can't resize the disk you're booted from.12:05
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ScorpKingi know12:05
ScorpKingused kubuntu live cd and partlogic boot cd12:05
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newsenseafter i install kde4, what config file do i need to dit to be able to switch between kde3,kde4 ?12:07
ScorpKingthe kubuntu cd used the swap. i turned it off and deleted the swap partition but the resize option stayed unavailable12:07
CppIsWeirdHow can i track down what application is recieveing data over the internet at any given time??12:07
newsensekdm config?12:07
newsensenetstat ?12:08
CppIsWeirdso far as i know, that just lists current applications12:08
jhutchinsScorpKing: Well I guess just use fdisk & restore your backups.12:08
newsenseCppIsWeird: netstat -a | grep "app name" ?12:08
ScorpKing:(12:08
jhutchinsScorpKing: Often faster than resizing a partition with data anyway.12:09
jhutchinsScorpKing: Don't tell me you're messing with the partition table and you don't have backups?12:09
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ScorpKingya i suppose. still dont like the idea. i like my current setup. i made backups.:)12:10
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newsenseafter i install kde4, what config file do i need to edit to be able to switch between kde3,kde4 ?12:10
ScorpKingwill reinstall tomorrow :(12:10
CppIsWeirdnewsense, still doesnt tell me what the active transfer rate is. I've been watching System Monitor when i was supposed to have any internet activity, i've had nothing running, and i've had a constant stream of 700-1000 b/s for the last few hours atlest.12:10
jhutchinsnewsense: #kubuntu is still kde 3.5.7.  How you switch depends on how you installed.12:10
newsensejhutchins: i instlled kde4base-dev via apt12:11
ScorpKingwon't snort or ethereal be able to monitor network traffic? never used it.12:11
CppIsWeird*not supposed to have12:12
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CppIsWeirdwhat does this mean?ethereal - dummy upgrade package for ethereal -> wireshark12:13
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emilsedghnewsense: you could launch apps from /usr/lib/kde4/bin12:15
newsenseemilsedgh: thanks12:15
emilsedghnewsense: do not except too much from it...12:15
CppIsWeirdok, i've got another great question for ya. how come no internet applications will work on my linux box now (dont know why, wireless is up and kicking) however system properties is still reporting traffic.12:16
newsenseemilsedgh: thanks again, exactly what i wanted12:16
emilsedghnp newsense12:16
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newsensewow, dolphin is pretty nice, ive heard nothing but ad things about it in here12:18
dwidmannCppIsWeird: maybe it's related to a bug in kdenetworkmanager ... there's a bug where if it's running no kde-apps can see the net.12:18
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CppIsWeirdnot even kde specific apps. apt-get failed to connect to the internet12:19
CppIsWeirdfirefox12:19
CppIsWeirdaswell12:19
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ScorpKingCpplsWeird: using 3g?12:19
CppIsWeirdwhich is strange because a virtual machine running on the box is accessing the internet just fine12:19
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CppIsWeirddont know what 3g is12:19
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ScorpKingcellphone internet.12:20
CppIsWeirdno, broadband12:20
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atomicpotatonewsense, nothing but bad things? Well, my main gripe is that it doesn't have a tree view or any kind of previewing ability.12:20
ScorpKingmaybe it's dns.12:20
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dave_hey ..somebody speak french and can help me with kubuntu12:21
emilsedghatomicpotato: It has12:21
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newsenselooks cool though, avent looked at functionality yet12:21
atomicpotatowhere12:21
emilsedgh!fr -> dave_12:21
dave_???12:21
atomicpotatoemilsedgh, if it does, I'm not seeing it.12:21
atomicpotatoWhere?12:21
CppIsWeirdscorpking, how could it be if a virtual machine on the same linux box is getting internet?12:21
emilsedghatomicpotato: TreeeView is new, will see it in Beta2 packages, Preview is there from kde 3.x version...12:22
atomicpotatook12:22
paul_semagandaHi I have a quick question about running a C program on ubuntu after compiling it with gcc can some one help12:22
BiovoreCppIsWeird: route -n12:22
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ScorpKingCpplsWeird: it might still have the dns cache. i don't really know.12:22
newsensepaul_semaganda: whats the question?12:23
SavakFirewall..?12:23
paul_semagandaI have compiled a C program using gcc but I don't know how to run it12:23
emilsedghpaul_semaganda: dont ask to ask, just ask, please12:24
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CppIsWeirdBiovore, what exactly is this supposed to tell me?12:24
newsensepaul_semaganda: ./programname12:24
emilsedghpaul_semaganda: there should be a file named something.out (I think)12:24
KiryWho can tell me how restore original KDE logout window on Kubuntu ? Please :)12:24
BiovoreCppIsWeird: your routing tables.. does your box know how to get to the internet.. can you ping your default gw?12:25
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paul_semagandathis is how I compiled it gcc -o error erro.c12:25
Biovoreok  so it made something called "error"  to run..  ./error12:26
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paul_semagandaI have been using gcc on cygwin and all I have to do is to run the exe file12:26
emilsedghKiry: how did you change it?12:26
Biovorepaul_semaganda: same idea here..12:26
KiryI didn't change it, I don't like a lot the Kubuntu one, and I want the original KDE one12:26
paul_semagandanot it said there is no such command when typed error12:26
newsensepaul_semaganda: ./programname12:27
Biovorewhen you ls do you see the file you want to run?12:27
newsensepaul_semaganda: if in the same directory the program is in12:27
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CppIsWeirdBiovore, 99% of the time my internet and all net activities work just fine, this behavior only happens like once a week.12:27
CppIsWeirdso far for reasons i cannot correlate to be the cause12:28
Biovoreknetwork manager?12:28
Kiryemilsedgh: any idea ?12:28
CppIsWeirdwhat about it?12:28
Biovoredoes weird thing sometimes..12:28
paul_semagandathank you guys ./progname works12:28
newsensepaul_semaganda: np12:28
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CppIsWeirdwell im using gnome atm, i installed gnome just to see if it was kde related, because i herd of a few of those kde things.12:29
emilsedghKiry: I think you should find the files that are changin it, if they are only configuration files, then you should replace them by KDE's Default files, else, it will be a little hard12:29
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CppIsWeirdso far, same thing.12:29
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KiryT_T12:30
BiovoreCppIsWeird: well All I can say for sure is that if your IP/Netmask, Default Route, /etc/resolv.conf, and phyical attachments are all correct.. then it should work..12:31
Biovoreone of those has to be the root of the problem..12:31
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paul_semagandaany one know how to install playback plugins for lastfm in rythmbox music player12:32
emilsedghKiry: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/KDE+3.5.x+Alternate+logout?content=58881&PHPSESSID=b98ab5b338f4db9fc245fe1bb4c0567e12:32
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emilsedghpaul_semaganda: rythmbox? man this is the Kubuntu channel, most of people are AmaroK Users...12:33
Kiryoh thanks emilsedgh :12:33
CppIsWeirdbiovore, i've checked them all, even then, none of those to my knowledge would be the cause of internet randomly going out. its not like i booted and it never worked, i just at some point in time decided to say screw the world and not allow anything on linux to connect to the internet.12:33
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CppIsWeirdand as I said, my virtual machine running is accessing the internet just fine, which would further cancle out those as problems12:33
emilsedghKiry: read the description...12:34
BiovoreCppIsWeird: all the cancels out the physical interface.. dosn't rule out IP/Netmask or default route..12:34
Biovoreor /etc/resolv.conf12:34
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ScorpKingif you have more than one network device or dhcp server the one that get dns last will set it's dns to default which might cause some connection problems.12:36
Kiryemilsedgh: it works, thank you al ot12:36
Kirya lot*12:37
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emilsedghnp Kiry12:37

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