[12:36] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: is anon_upload_enable=YES? and make sure the ftp user has permission on the upload dir.
[12:37] <ScorpKing> CprgmSwR2: ur welcome.
[12:37] <tazgodx> how do i give anonymous user permission? and yes, anon_upload_enable is set to YES
[12:38] <tobias_> try sudo make install first
[12:38] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: chown the upload dir to ftp user
[12:38] <soccermike1337> ok
[12:39] <soccermike1337> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[12:39] <soccermike1337> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[12:39] <soccermike1337> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[12:39] <soccermike1337> oh im sorry :-/ i didnt notice it was pasting it
[12:40] <elite101> ##hardware !
[12:40] <tobias_> mhm soccermike1337 did you have any error before ?
[12:41] <tobias_> in the first 3 steps I mean and the first part of the 4th step
[12:41] <soccermike1337> nope
[12:41] <soccermike1337> just when i got to the third line
[12:41] <tazgodx> ScorpKing: but if i login as anonymous, how do i chown for anonymous?
[12:41] <soccermike1337> of the uh fourth step
[12:41] <tobias_> and you did all the steps in the correct order? :/
[12:41] <soccermike1337> yep
[12:42] <tobias_> mhm sorry, I cant help you with that then
[12:42] <tobias_> maybe you try #ubuntu again :p
[12:42] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: uhm... don't know. one sec...
[12:42] <soccermike1337> ok
[12:42] <soccermike1337> thanks
[12:42] <tazgodx> lol
[12:44] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: so u can see all the other directories when u ftp as anon  user?
[12:44] <sFEARs> i tried the steps in that dual boot toot. got to the very last step & it gave me an error about /boot/grub/stage1 not found
[12:44] <sFEARs> any ideas?
[12:45] <tazgodx> i see the /var/lib/mythtv folder, and there are 4 folders in that that i want to be able to write to
[12:46] <Savak> right, best pay attention to gf, night all!
[12:46] <sFEARs> later
[12:47] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: set anon_mkdir_write_enable=YES and chmod the folders in /var/lib/mythtv so ftp user can write
[12:48] <tazgodx> i have that one setting set, how do i chmod folders in terminal?
[12:49] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: what is ur ftp username?
[12:49] <tazgodx> anonymous
[12:50] <tazgodx> i think i found it, hold up
[12:50] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: sudo chown anonymous:anonymous -R /var/lib/mythtv/
[12:50] <elite101> dont mind this --> ##hardware
[12:50] <elite101> just trying to join it
[12:52] <tazgodx> hmm, ok i got it to write a file for the uplaod, but it desconnects before actually uploading
[12:52] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: check the logs
[12:53] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: /var/log/vsftpd.log
[12:53] <tazgodx> [17:51:16]  500 OOPS: fchown
[12:53] <tazgodx> [17:51:16]  500 OOPS: priv_sock_get_result
[12:53] <tazgodx> [17:51:16]  *** Disconnected.
[12:54] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: uhm... try to google the second one
[12:54] <tazgodx> k
[12:56] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: found it on the faq link i gave u.
[12:56] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: nope. not it.
[12:57] <SoulChild> Help,... my /etc/services file is lost after backup,... how do i restore it?
[12:59] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: what is the chown_username set as?
[01:00] <tazgodx> how do i find that out?
[01:00] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: in /etc/vsftpd.conf
[01:01] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: i think i needs to be set to the anonymous username u created.
[01:07] <Biovore> oO
[01:10] <elite101> can you run windows inside Linux? like parrelels
[01:10] <ScorpKing> yes
[01:10] <Chousuke> yes, with vmware
[01:10] <Chousuke> or qemu
[01:10] <Chousuke> or xen, or kvm
[01:10] <Chousuke> or... well, you have options
[01:11] <elite101> yeah lol or is there a thing called Virual box?
[01:11] <elite101> so you can run any OS inside linux? execpt MAC
[01:12] <ScorpKing> even mac
[01:12] <elite101> mhm on PC>?
[01:12] <elite101> o.0
[01:12] <ScorpKing> intel version
[01:12] <elite101> ahh
[01:12] <elite101> mhm i wouldnt mind getting a Mac with very good HW this way you can run linux/windows/mac
[01:12] <Biovore> vitual box can work on other arches as well..
[01:12] <ScorpKing> google for that. :D
[01:13] <Biovore> or theres qemu as well
[01:13] <elite101> unles the make was a c2d 2.66Ghz or quad and had 4gb ram
[01:13] <elite101> mac HW^
[01:13] <Biovore> well its open source..
[01:13] <Biovore> virtual box can be compiled to any arch
[01:13] <elite101> is mac opensoure? it is Unix based?
[01:13] <Biovore> mac is bsd based
[01:13] <elite101> ahh UNIX*
[01:13] <Biovore> basicly its unix
[01:14] <elite101> lol if you wanna get technical
[01:14] <ScorpKing> not free
[01:14] <elite101> :(
[01:14] <ScorpKing> u can always be a pirate :)
[01:14] <elite101> well you can run Mac on PC with it Hacked and all but i would imagine its slow and it is illegal
[01:14] <aguitel> anyone upgrade to gusty?
[01:14] <Biovore> yeah.. mac isn't free.. the licenced BSD from berkly
[01:14] <Biovore> and built from it..
[01:15] <elite101> mhm so could i get Berkly then build it into mac?
[01:15] <elite101> then downlaod and install make software
[01:15] <Biovore> well its alot of work...
[01:15] <elite101> mac* no make
[01:15] <Biovore> apple built alot of stuff to go on top of it..
[01:15] <elite101> lol i bet
[01:15] <Biovore> and changed alot of things
[01:15] <elite101> was mac software ever free? from back when they where startung?
[01:16] <Biovore> it isn't bsd, its just bsd like
[01:16] <Biovore> nope
[01:16] <Biovore> its apple.. come on..
[01:16] <elite101> mmh i wouldnt mind some software form them
[01:16] <elite101> like there Movie editors and stuff
[01:16] <Biovore> thats all adobe
[01:17] <Biovore> Linux and video editing has some work to go..
[01:17] <ScorpKing> a lot
[01:17] <ScorpKing> maybe one day...
[01:17] <Biovore> there are comerical apps for profressional grade video editing for linux.. but there way out of the price range..
[01:18] <ScorpKing> like?
[01:18] <Biovore> I have seen some..
[01:18] <Biovore> Pixar uses one
[01:18] <Biovore> there kinda in house deals though..
[01:18] <ScorpKing> i'd rather buy software for linux than buy windows.
[01:19] <ScorpKing> or mac
[01:19] <elite101> same
[01:20] <elite101> linux is better too so say you dont like some of there software you could change somethings
[01:20] <ScorpKing> yip
[01:20] <elite101> mhm but i like the easy editing software from Linux
[01:20] <Biovore> http://www.mainconcept.com/site/ <-- video editor program
[01:20] <Biovore> comercial
[01:20] <elite101> free?
[01:21] <schneider_> somebody speak Spanish?
[01:21] <elite101> nope
[01:21] <elite101> espanol
[01:21] <Hirvinen> !es | schneider_
[01:21] <ubotu> schneider_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:21] <ScorpKing> lol
[01:24] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: u still there? any luck?
[01:24] <tazgodx> im here
[01:24] <tazgodx> no luck
[01:24] <tazgodx> reading as much as i can
[01:24] <ScorpKing> :( same problem?
[01:25] <tazgodx> it seems it has write access to the folder, but not the files in the folder, if thats even possible
[01:25] <Chousuke> that is possible
[01:26] <ScorpKing> anyone else know something about vsftp?
[01:27] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: if u run ls -l in the ftp dir, what's the permissions?
[01:27] <CPrgmSwR2> Has anyone in here installed the kde4 svn?
[01:28] <caesar_> how do I get the menu that searches, like in SUSE and Sabayon?
[01:29] <tazgodx> !pastebin
[01:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:29] <tazgodx> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36118/
[01:30] <reallyjoel> I've gone through the entire KDE control center, but I can't find where to set the behaviour for clicking on files.. I want single click to be 'select'
[01:31] <caesar_> reallyjoel: what you're looking for is actually in the "Mouse" control panel
[01:31] <tazgodx> is it possible to set up vsftpd to set chmod of all files its uploading to 755?
[01:32] <reallyjoel> caesar_, where's that then?
[01:32] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: is mythtv the ftp user? did u check out http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7520? scroll down to a section called Listing 1. vsftpd.conf Settings for Anonymous FTP
[01:32] <sFEARs> hello again
[01:32] <caesar_> I went to "control center", and searched for "mouse"
[01:32] <ScorpKing> hi
[01:32] <waltercool> In kubuntu can i install kde4 beta?
[01:32] <caesar_> reallyjoel: system->control center
[01:32] <reallyjoel> ah, found it, so it was in the control center all along
[01:32] <caesar_> yup. Just not in the logical place
[01:33] <reallyjoel> caesar_, yeah, thanks!
[01:33] <CPrgmSwR2> waltercool: you can install kde4 from svn
[01:33] <sFEARs> i'm still having trouble with my dual boot settings. anyone think they can help me out
[01:33] <waltercool> CPrgmSwR2: And works good?
[01:33] <caesar_> Is there any way I can get the SUSE-style search menu in Kubuntu?
[01:33] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: it looks like the problem is with ur ftp user.
[01:33] <waltercool> CPrgmSwR2: or like the alpha?
[01:33] <caesar_> like, SUSE/Sabayon style
[01:33] <klobster> my java is dying : (
[01:33] <reallyjoel> maybe you should consider duplicating the settings, and include it in the desktop behaviour
[01:33] <CPrgmSwR2> waltercool: it works like the alpha, because there is no kde4 that works good yet
[01:33] <tazgodx> im reading it now
[01:33] <ScorpKing> ok
[01:34] <waltercool> CPrgmSwR2: :(... so... only wait to October t_t
[01:34] <CPrgmSwR2> actually december
[01:34] <klobster> I haven't upgrade3d it recently, I don't know why it's borked...
[01:34] <CPrgmSwR2> they pushed the release date back
[01:34] <CPrgmSwR2> but the good news is that kde4 is going to be a pretty big upgrade
[01:35] <waltercool> CPrgmSwR2: :O but is the same visual, no?
[01:35] <CPrgmSwR2> there is a new plasma panel now
[01:35] <CPrgmSwR2> it looks really cool
[01:35] <BluesKaj> CPrgmSwR2, yeah , I may need to upgrade my hardware to run it :)
[01:35] <CPrgmSwR2> you shouldn't need to kde4 users less memory
[01:36] <BluesKaj> i tried the suse live cd with kde4 on it ...wouldn't even load
[01:36] <CPrgmSwR2> KDE4 is going to support composite, for those that have a new computer otherwise it will be like kde3 but with LOTS of enhancements
[01:36] <tazgodx> i think i got it somehow :)
[01:37] <waltercool> CPrgmSwR2: well.. thats cool :)
[01:37] <CPrgmSwR2> you have to understand that kde4 has lots and lots of bugs right now
[01:37] <waltercool> CPrgmSwR2: And another version of Kubuntu is come too, or not?
[01:37] <CPrgmSwR2> gutsy
[01:37] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: it's working?
[01:37] <CPrgmSwR2> I think so, I havn't kept track of the kubuntu stuff
[01:37] <tazgodx> i just uploaded a file
[01:37] <klobster> any ideas on how to reset my java control?  it's affecting multiple users, so I now it's not just something I did.
[01:37] <ScorpKing> :-D
[01:37] <CPrgmSwR2> Infact I am tring to convert to kubuntu from gentoo
[01:38] <ScorpKing> good choice
[01:38] <Biovore> kde4 will probably be herion.. (the release after gusty.. and the next LTS release)
[01:38] <CPrgmSwR2> I just can't seem to create this kde-devel users for compiling/using kde4
[01:38] <tazgodx> now to figure out how to get mythtv to recognize my files, thanks :)
[01:38] <klobster> !java > klobster
[01:39] <CPrgmSwR2> but kde4 is quite awsome, with its plasmoid system
[01:39] <CPrgmSwR2> and it actually has true transparency
[01:39] <inaety> CPrgmSwR2: you got the beta?
[01:39] <waltercool> CPrgmSwR2: :O!! but uses a lot of resources that?
[01:39] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: what do you mean? ur welcome.:)
[01:39] <CPrgmSwR2> on gentoo I have the svn copy
[01:40] <inaety> CPrgmSwR2: i was gonna get it but i decided that it be more fun to wait for it
[01:40] <CPrgmSwR2> the only reason I got it was because I was going to develop some game kit
[01:40] <CPrgmSwR2> then I got addicted to it
[01:40] <waltercool> CPrgmSwR2: How amount of hours compilating that?
[01:40] <BluesKaj> Gutsy broke my xorg file after a net upgrade and there was no way of reconfigging the xserver enuff to get X to show on my monitor..all the sounds worked but no login spalsh screen
[01:40] <CPrgmSwR2> like 4 at most
[01:41] <CPrgmSwR2> for the mimimal that is
[01:41] <waltercool> xOO that the main problem of gentoo xD
[01:41] <Biovore> KDE4 will be cool once they get it fully complete..
[01:41] <DaSkreech> hi CPrgmSwR2
[01:41] <Biovore> you can build it from souce on kubuntu to as well..
[01:41] <CPrgmSwR2> then I would say an additional 2 hours after that, but once you have it installed you can update it within a couple hours each week
[01:41] <CPrgmSwR2> hey DaSkreech
[01:41] <CPrgmSwR2> I am having trouble getting my kde-devel user to recognize my .bashrc file
[01:42] <Biovore> ?
[01:42] <Biovore> wried
[01:42] <tazgodx> ScorpKing:  well, now i have some mp3s in my mythtv music folder, but they aren't showing up.
[01:42] <CPrgmSwR2> sudo useradd -m kde-devel <-- this is how I create it right
[01:42] <CPrgmSwR2> ?
[01:42] <hydrogen> yes
[01:43] <CPrgmSwR2> okay
[01:43] <CPrgmSwR2> kwrite: cannot connect to X server
[01:43] <hydrogen> add -s /bin/bash
[01:43] <hydrogen> actually
[01:43] <CPrgmSwR2> oh
[01:43] <CPrgmSwR2> oops
[01:43] <hydrogen> for one
[01:43] <hydrogen> but
[01:43] <hydrogen> before you su
[01:43] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: what is ur setup again? do they show with ls?
[01:43] <hydrogen> xhost +local:kde-devel
[01:44] <tazgodx> yeah they show with ls
[01:44] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: Could have sworn you were a gentoo cow
[01:44] <tazgodx> i think its just codec problems on my mythtv setup
[01:44] <CPrgmSwR2> DaSkreech: I am sick and tired of the 20 hour install
[01:44] <Biovore> Thats the reason I went to debian.. :-P
[01:45] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: mmm. never seen mythtv. hope u get it fixed soon. :)
[01:45] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: ha ha :)
[01:45] <Biovore> gentoo is cool. just I can't stand waiting 3 hours for something to build..
[01:45] <hydrogen> warning to kde4 hopefuls :)
[01:45] <CPrgmSwR2> Biovore: My exact thoughts
[01:45] <hydrogen> du -sh ~ = 9.8G    .
[01:45] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: Hows Kollagame going?
[01:46] <CPrgmSwR2> I am really stuck on it
[01:46] <DaSkreech> Where?
[01:46] <CPrgmSwR2> Weill I need to create a control that allows the artist to arrange images in such a fashion to create an animation
[01:47] <CPrgmSwR2> but I cannot figure out how to create a control in Qt that allows the user to sort the images
[01:47] <CPrgmSwR2> I know how to add/remove and even insert into a list, but for some reason when I remove the same item and add it back, the qt framework discards it as a duplicate
[01:48] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: don't know if this will help but u need libxine-extracodecs to play mp3's.
[01:49] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: asked in #kde-devel ?
[01:49] <CPrgmSwR2> I have
[01:50] <CPrgmSwR2> DaSkreech: They just said to cool it and wait a while
[01:50] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: ha ha :) what else needs working on?
[01:51] <CPrgmSwR2> After that I just need an optmized qt graphics object
[01:51] <CPrgmSwR2> and I can finish the game
[01:51] <CPrgmSwR2> I made a small game in sdl with colliding balls
[01:51] <tazgodx> ScorpKing: sweet, got my music to show up :) thats my main point of all this. now to FTP my music collection :) thanks for all your help
[01:51] <Biovore> yeah.. QT4 has some querks
[01:51] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: Seriously?
[01:52] <Biovore> I have had some luck with the glWidget thing though..  <-- use that as the output window of SDL stuff..
[01:52] <CPrgmSwR2> I believe so, because most of the cause of me being stuck is due to know understand how to do this/that in qt
[01:52] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: any time. have fun! :)
[01:52] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: that's really good news
[01:53] <CPrgmSwR2> yeah, but the bad news is that I cannot get help
[01:54] <CPrgmSwR2> Its very discouraging that I cannot seem to get any one to help me develop the game
[01:54] <CPrgmSwR2> compiling qt-copy now
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> CPrgmSwR2: the qt docs are amazing..
[01:55] <CPrgmSwR2> yeah they are
[01:55] <ScorpKing> CPrgmSwR2: what game is it?
[01:56] <CPrgmSwR2> Its suppose to be mainly a RPG game IDE
[01:56] <ScorpKing> o ok. :)
[01:56] <CPrgmSwR2> I thought it would be neat to allow individuals to developer their own rpg game with the simplicity of point/click
[01:57] <ScorpKing> yes, that would be great.
[01:58] <CPrgmSwR2> In my mind the only thing lacking from kde is a good RPG/shoot-em up games
[01:59] <ScorpKing> true. i only know pascal. don't think that will be of any help.
[01:59] <CPrgmSwR2> I hate pascal
[01:59] <CPrgmSwR2> had to learn it for school briefly
[01:59] <ScorpKing> haha
[02:00] <ScorpKing> i wanna learn c++ but my book got stoled the other day.:(
[02:00] <CPrgmSwR2> there is an online book thats really good
[02:00] <ScorpKing> now i have to print a new one
[02:00] <CPrgmSwR2> and its free
[02:00] <ScorpKing> thinking in c++?
[02:00] <CPrgmSwR2> yep
[02:00] <ScorpKing> got vol 1 and 2
[02:00] <jordan_> hi
[02:01] <CPrgmSwR2> lol
[02:01] <klobster> reinstalling fixed my java lockups
[02:01] <CPrgmSwR2> I cannot believe someone stole your print out book
[02:01] <ScorpKing> ya that suck. it was binded and all. very neat.
[02:01] <CPrgmSwR2> I can just imagine a theif trying to sell the paper for a penny a piece
[02:02] <ScorpKing> haha. most likely
[02:02] <encom> kubuntu-es
[02:02] <tazgodx> how can i remove a directory in the terminal?
[02:02] <DaSkreech> !es
[02:02] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:02] <DaSkreech> tazgodx: rm
[02:02] <DaSkreech> rmdir sorry
[02:02] <CPrgmSwR2> tazgodx: rm -R
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> tazgodx: "rm -rf ,directory name>"
[02:02] <jordan_> hey how do u open kde wallet
[02:02] <encom> thankds
[02:02] <encom> thanks
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> jordan_: "kwalletmanager"
[02:02] <CPrgmSwR2> rm -rf is force remove
[02:03] <CPrgmSwR2> be careful with that
[02:03] <tazgodx> thanks
[02:03] <NightBird> yeah
[02:03] <tazgodx> now, remove deletes it completely right?
[02:03] <jordan_> thx
[02:03] <NightBird> rm -r is a safer command( though.... all it really means is that it'll ask you)
[02:03] <hydrogen> err
[02:03] <NightBird> so it's only margionally safer
[02:03] <hydrogen> rm -ri
[02:03] <hydrogen> is safer
[02:03] <CPrgmSwR2> what is rm -ri do?
[02:04] <hydrogen> it is a sometimes thing otherwise
[02:04] <NightBird> prompts before deleting something
[02:04] <hydrogen> if you don't pass it a parameter it depends on file perms i believe
[02:04] <tazgodx> well i tried just rm and it told me "rm: cannot remove `dmb2007-07-08.mk4.flac16': Is a directory"
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> tazgodx: thats why you need -r
[02:05] <CPrgmSwR2> tazgodx: make sure you provide it with -r as that allows it to remove directories
[02:05] <tazgodx> thanks
[02:05] <tazgodx> the -r worked
[02:05] <CPrgmSwR2> NightBird: I put exec startkde in .xinitrc
[02:05] <CPrgmSwR2> then do startx as kde-devel to start kde4
[02:06] <ScorpKing> well i'm off. the sun will rise in about 4 hours. better get some sleep. cheers all :)
[02:06] <NightBird> sleep well ScorpKing
[02:06] <CPrgmSwR2> the sun is out here
[02:06] <NightBird> I just remembered
[02:06] <NightBird> I have tomorrow off of work
[02:06] <anonymousguy> help!
[02:06] <jordan_> thats good
[02:06] <NightBird> it is
[02:07] <jordan_> yes very
[02:07] <jordan_> help with what
[02:07] <jordan_> ?
[02:07] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: time for bed?
[02:08] <ubuntu> Hi
[02:08] <CPrgmSwR2> its 7:08 PM here
[02:08] <anonymousguy> i'm trying to install some drivers for my graphic card, but when i compile them...
[02:08] <anonymousguy> i' can't
[02:08] <CPrgmSwR2> ati
[02:08] <CPrgmSwR2> ?
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> anonymousguy: there is no need to compile drivers.
[02:08] <anonymousguy> i was downloaded
[02:08] <CPrgmSwR2> lol
[02:08] <anonymousguy> no, VIA
[02:08] <CPrgmSwR2> how do you download yourself
[02:09] <pepe_> ?
[02:09] <NightBird> anonymousguy: are there drivers available in the repos that you can use instead?
[02:09] <inaety> CPrgmSwR2: he can hardly speak english, give him a break
[02:09] <anonymousguy> i was downloades them in:http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=25&CatID=2580&SubCatID=164#top
[02:09] <NightBird> speaking of which.... *restarts his laptop
[02:09] <CPrgmSwR2> Sorry
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> anonymousguy: are you folloing a  tutorial?
[02:10] <anonymousguy> yes
[02:10] <anonymousguy> http://www.hombrepac.com.ar/software-libre/linux/how-to-via-k8m890-chrome-9-igp-and-linuxs-xorg-ubuntu-edgy-610/
[02:10] <anonymousguy> this is
[02:10] <ubuntu> hmm i have a question. Can i use another Media player besides Amarok. I'm a total noob with Kubuntu
[02:10] <hydrogen> yes
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> anonymousguy: use the official ubuntu one..
[02:10] <WaltzingAlong> ubuntu: of course
[02:10] <ubuntu> oh sweet
[02:10] <CPrgmSwR2> ubuntu download juk
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> !via | anonymousguy
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about via - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <ubuntu> another thing
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> !graphics | anonymousguy
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <lavacano201014> !xmms | ubuntu
[02:11] <ubotu> ubuntu: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> !ati | anonymousguy
[02:11] <ubotu> anonymousguy: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:11] <hydrogen> feel free to browse the multimedia category of add/remove programs to see the selection
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> anonymousguy: that has via driver instructions as well
[02:11] <ubuntu> if i acreate a partition in one of my hard drivers and i Install Kubuntu there and i have Windows Xp in another parititon i will have problems?
[02:11] <anonymousguy> no, that is VIA no ATI or NVidia
[02:11] <lavacano201014> no
[02:11] <anonymousguy> yes
[02:11] <WaltzingAlong> ubuntu: done right, no
[02:11] <lavacano201014> ubuntu: you will wind up with a menu asking which operating system you want to use
[02:12] <lavacano201014> provided the partitioning doesnt damage Windows XP beyond repaie
[02:12] <lavacano201014> then only Kubuntu works
[02:12] <ubuntu> uh hu
[02:12] <lavacano201014> but that has never happened that i know of so
[02:12] <ubuntu> well both partition will be in a differnt hard drive
[02:12] <lavacano201014> waaaay too rare
[02:12] <anonymousguy> ...
[02:12] <ubuntu> hmm
[02:12] <lavacano201014> then XP will never know whats going on
[02:12] <ubuntu> ok
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> anonymousguy: there are instructions for VIA on that page as well.
[02:13] <anonymousguy> i suposse
[02:13] <WaltzingAlong> ubuntu: ms windows is just fragile but it can be done
[02:13] <inaety> nosrednaekim: where on that binary page?
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> inaety: what?
[02:14] <anonymousguy> inaety, can explain them what happened
[02:14] <inaety> nosrednaekim: where on the binary how to page does it have bia?
[02:14] <inaety> via*
[02:14] <inaety> anonymousguy: yeah
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> umm lemme see.
[02:14] <caesar_> my gnome programs look awful in KDE. What can I do about this?
[02:14] <sayers> How do I have Bluetooth not boot up when I turn my computer on
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> caesar_: opne kcontrol and go to appearance->gtk sytle
[02:15] <caesar_> thanks!
[02:15] <WaltzingAlong> caesar_: kmenu / system settings / appearance / gtk style and themes
[02:16] <Daisuke-Laptop> oh yay, kernel update that's supposed to fix some of the 1420n issues :D
[02:16] <inaety> basically he was following some tutorial on how to install the via graphic driver he has and it wants him to have the folder on the /, however, the program should do it for him but it says that the folder already exists...so he tried to delete it and stuff and made sure that there is nothing pertaining to the folder on / but it still says that it is there
[02:16] <caesar_> wait. "gtk style and themes" isn't there.
[02:16] <lavacano201014> caesar_: sudo apt-get install gnome
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> lavacano201014: what?
[02:16] <WaltzingAlong> caesar_: styles and fonts?
[02:16] <caesar_> I already have gnome. I installed KDE after having  Ubuntu (not kubuntu) installed
[02:16] <lavacano201014> ah
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> anonymousguy: appologies... it wan't on that page
[02:17] <caesar_> so what's the middle-step I need?
[02:17] <lavacano201014> i did the reverse
[02:17] <WaltzingAlong> caesar_: to install kubuntu-desktop?
[02:17] <lavacano201014> run GNOME apps in a GNOME session
[02:17] <lavacano201014> and KDE apps in a KDE session
[02:17] <lavacano201014> i have both open at once
[02:17] <WaltzingAlong> lavacano201014: :D
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> caesar_: its in system settings->appearance->gtk styles and fonts
[02:18] <Daisuke-Laptop> run whichever in whichever session, the thing won't explode ;)
[02:18] <caesar_> ok. Installing Kubuntu
[02:18] <anonymousguy> ?
[02:19] <Daisuke-Laptop> exaile is truly just an amarok clone -_-
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> yep.
[02:20] <dwidmann> Well there goes another weekend of work :) Now for my 4 days off
[02:20] <lavacano201014> heh
[02:20] <Daisuke-Laptop> and not a particularly good one either
[02:20] <dwidmann> Daisuke-Laptop: how counterproductive ...
[02:20] <DaSkreech> Daisuke-Laptop: It's not bad
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> anonymousguy: here you go http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=5&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FOpenChrome&ei=FlPbRovMKoTeeufv1LsJ&usg=AFQjCNEVUz-FmmjsxKkAktW1XBBiwPr2MA&sig2=AQX1d9fxPDfSnYG61GfnVg
[02:20] <Daisuke-Laptop> dwidmann: i use ubuntu on the laptop and kubuntu on the desktop
[02:20] <lavacano201014> my Kubuntu system doesnt like my sound card anyway, so...
[02:21] <Daisuke-Laptop> so i thought...  i should try out the gnome alternatives on the laptop\
[02:21] <DaSkreech> !sound | lavacano201014
[02:21] <ubotu> lavacano201014: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:21] <lavacano201014> it doesnt matter to me at all
[02:22] <lavacano201014> the speakers arent hooked into it anyway
[02:22] <anonymousguy> norsednaekim: i was tried whit the ubuntu ones, but doesn't work
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> anonymousguy: these are not the ubutnu drivers..
[02:22] <dwidmann> Daisuke-Laptop: I almost tried to do that when my 1420n showed up at my door .... within an hour I found myself surgically removing gnome and installing kde
[02:23] <Daisuke-Laptop> dwidmann: so i'm not the only one that got one :D
[02:23] <inaety> anonymousguy: have you ever seen http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=5&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FOpenChrome&ei=FlPbRovMKoTeeufv1LsJ&usg=AFQjCNEVUz-FmmjsxKkAktW1XBBiwPr2MA&sig2=AQX1d9fxPDfSnYG61GfnVg before?
[02:23] <Daisuke-Laptop> awesome
[02:23] <anonymousguy> no
[02:24] <Kommando> The nvidia drivers that are on the Nvidia site are the same for all the versions of ubuntu?
[02:24] <Daisuke-Laptop> i should reboot though, kernel update
[02:24] <Kommando> sorry if it's a dumb question
[02:24] <dwidmann> Daisuke-Laptop: if you haven't already I recommend upgrading to Gutsy, it has a bit better support of the hardware and seems to be stable atm
[02:24] <dwidmann> Kommando: the only dumb question is the one that isn't asked.
[02:24] <hitmanWilly> Kommando: i would suggest using the repo ones
[02:24] <aguitel> i need help with this problem,when i restart o shutdown my laptop ,appears screen with ugly colors
[02:24] <Daisuke-Laptop> really now...  just a replace feisty with gutsy and do an update/dist-upgrade?
[02:24] <kteagan84> so I'm primarily a GNOME user but I'm currently downloading kubuntu to try out the desktop environment...anything I need to know?
[02:24] <Kommando> ok man thanks
[02:25] <inaety> anonymousguy: go back to #kubuntu-es...
[02:25] <Kommando> so far kubuntu is amazing. on on the live cd to see how well the OS runs
[02:25] <Kommando> i'm on*
[02:25] <dwidmann> Kommando: the versionin the repositories sometimes lag behind a version or two, but they aren't ancient, they're fresh as of the time of the Ubuntu version release
[02:25] <Kommando> oh sweet
[02:25] <hitmanWilly> Kommando: i've seen several issues with the website nvidia drivers in relation to (k)ubuntu
[02:25] <dwidmann> (and Ubuntu releases every six months)
[02:25] <lavacano201014> Kommando: ive lagged a little while using the live CD, but once its installed it just speeds by
[02:25] <Daisuke-Laptop> recompiling the kernel module every time you have a kernel update (that therefore breaks x) is a pain.
[02:26] <Kommando> mine it's not really lagging
[02:26] <Daisuke-Laptop> so stick with the repo drivers
[02:26] <Daisuke-Laptop> i shall return
[02:26] <Kommando> the only thing that i haven't been able to do is browse my hard drives. i can play cdwss and watch dvds but i can't browse my hard drives for some reason
[02:26] <hitmanWilly> Kommando: i bet you it is, wait until you install it
[02:26] <Kommando> it gives me an error
[02:26] <dwidmann> kteagan84: not really, except that you need to remember kde is very flexible. It's amazing how many gnome users run away from kde just because they didn't like the defaults (which are a bit different)
[02:26] <aguitel> i need help with this problem,when i restart o shutdown my laptop ,appears screen with ugly colors
[02:26] <Kommando> well yeah i'm gonna have to install it to see how it runs
[02:26] <Daisuke-Laptop> not gonna leave yet
[02:27] <Daisuke-Laptop> forgot i was downloading the GDI disc of CnC
[02:27] <dwidmann> aguitel: what video drivers are you using?
[02:27] <hitmanWilly> Kommando: compared to a live-cd, a hd install flies
[02:27] <Kommando> yeah i know
[02:27] <Angelus7676> is there something in linux to create flash animations?
[02:27] <aguitel> ati  drivers dwidmann
[02:27] <kteagan84> dwidmann: alright, I'll keep that in mind...I plan on using both whenever I feel like it because I like to try out various DE's
[02:27] <dwidmann> aguitel: wow, I hit the nail on the head every time.
[02:27] <aguitel> i have laptop soy vaio
[02:28] <dwidmann> kteagan84: tried fluxbox yet? I like it ...
[02:28] <Daisuke-Laptop> is that like a soy vente, half-caff?
[02:28] <aguitel> dwidmann ,do you know how to fix it
[02:28] <hitmanWilly> never know when one of those pesky rootkits will pop up....
[02:28] <kteagan84> dwidmann: I've tried out openbox, and it's pretty cool. Very bare bones and customizable which I like
[02:28] <anonymousguy> i was do all the thing that there say until i have't seen the page before, but it doesn't work
[02:28] <dwidmann> aguitel: You probably won't have any luck fixing it. You can blame ATI/AMD for that. Are you using fglrx or the default ati?
[02:29] <dwidmann> kteagan84: one thing I've been meaning to try is enlightenment, I hear it's interesting
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> anonymousguy: that page doesn't work? you did the page>
[02:29] <Kommando> this is the error that it gives me everytime i try to browse my hard Disks.  "Halt Storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 999"
[02:29] <hitmanWilly> kteagan84: tried windowmaker?
[02:29] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: what about Hardware?
[02:29] <aguitel> dwidmann ,how i know this?
[02:29] <Daisuke-Laptop> it's interesting alright, but all of the neat eyecandy that was meant to debut with dr17 has already been done
[02:29] <kteagan84> hitmanWilly: not yet, is it good?
[02:29] <Daisuke-Laptop> thanks to beryl and compiz( fusion)
[02:30] <hitmanWilly> kteagan84: yeah, once you get it set up right
[02:30] <anonymousguy> no, the steps that there are
[02:30] <kteagan84> dwidmann: I've heard it's great, haven't tried it yet
[02:30] <dwidmann> aguitel: grep driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:30] <kteagan84> hmmm...might try it out
[02:30] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech: my refusal to buy anything sony stems more from a personal vendetta than quality issues
[02:31] <dwidmann> Daisuke-Laptop: to which "neat eyecandy" are we referring?
[02:31] <kteagan84> well this is my first time using KDE, I'm signing out, but wish me luck!
[02:31] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: ah ok :)
[02:31] <aguitel> dwidmann ,to type  in the console this command?
[02:31] <Daisuke-Laptop> just the whole compositing thing
[02:31] <Kommando> this is the error that it gives me everytime i try to browse my hard Disks.  "Halt Storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 999"
[02:31] <dwidmann> aguitel: yeah
[02:31] <Daisuke-Laptop> however
[02:31] <aguitel> dwidmann ,say nothing
[02:31] <dwidmann> hmm, probably an oops on my part
[02:32] <dwidmann> accursed case sensitivity :\
[02:32] <dwidmann> aguitel: "grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf" the only differnce here is that I uppercased the D
[02:33] <dwidmann> aguitel: there'll be three or four, but only one of them will be for the video card, it will either be ati, radeon, vesa, or fglrx
[02:34] <aguitel> dwidmann ,say driver ati in the last line
[02:35] <dwidmann> aguitel: well, that's the default reverse engineered ati driver, maybe you'll have better luck with the proprietary fglrx one?
[02:35] <dwidmann> !ati | aguitel
[02:35] <ubotu> aguitel: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:35] <Daisuke-Laptop> dwidmann: looking at e17's feature list, a lot of it isn't duplicated in compiz
[02:36] <Daisuke-Laptop> looks like i spoke too soon
[02:36] <dwidmann> Daisuke-Laptop: anything in particular stand out?
[02:36] <Daisuke-Laptop> http://enlightenment.org/p.php?p=about/dev&l=en
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> no performance hit ;)
[02:37] <dwidmann> nosrednaekim: in?
[02:37] <Fusion_> hi guys. where do i look first if konqueror can't go online? thanks
[02:37] <DaSkreech> bitlost: level up!
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> e17 effects don't have the performance hit that compiz does
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> Fusion_: netowrkmanager is telling ti that its not online.
[02:38] <bitlost> DaSkreech : huh?
[02:38] <aguitel> dwidmann ,can i install ati drivers with envy?
[02:39] <DaSkreech> From clueless to a bitlost
[02:39] <Daisuke-Laptop> nosrednaekim: true
[02:39] <dwidmann> aguitel: I think so, I'm pretty sure Alberto Milone added that a few months ago
[02:39] <Fusion_> nosrednaekim: i can go online. it's just konqueror who can't....
[02:39] <bitlost> lol
[02:39] <Daisuke-Laptop> !envy
[02:39] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: no, use the restricted-manager.
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> Fusion_: yeah... Knetowkrmanager is probably telling konqueror that its not in online mode.
[02:39] <dwidmann> nosrednaekim: my macines are beasts, I never noticed any performance hits when running Beryl ^^;
[02:40] <dwidmann> *machines
[02:40] <DaSkreech> Fusion_: disconnect and reconnect
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> dwidmann: with crappy ATI integrated cards I do.. :(
[02:40] <Fusion_> DaSkreech: yeah tried that
[02:40] <dwidmann> nosrednaekim: a 7900GTX in my box upstairs
[02:41] <dwidmann> I wonder how well my laptop can handle it *ponders*
[02:41] <DaSkreech> Fusion_: If it helps the same thing happens to me in Vista
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> try putting that in a laptop.
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> exactly
[02:42] <bitlost> does anyone know why my laptop isn't recognizing usb devices?...where do i start?
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> bitlost: plug in a usb device and run "dmesg"
[02:42] <dwidmann> Fusion_: go with what nosrednaekim said, if possible, try killing knetworkmanger, then trying to access websites and such in kde apps
[02:42] <aguitel> nosrednaekim ,how install ati drives with restricted-manager ?
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: you have restricted-manager installed?
[02:43] <Fusion_> DaSkreech: err... i mean everything is fine. firefox, tbird, irc, konversation.... it's just knoqueror
[02:43] <aguitel> nosrednaekim ,i am in  kubuntu ,how i know ?
[02:44] <bitlost> nosrednaekim: i got loooooong output string
[02:44] <dwidmann> DaSkreech: oh, and like I was saying about Gutsy earlier, have you tried it yet? They finally got around to some things I've been waiting for for a year. I really should get around to getting my hands dirty ... I hate waiting for things.
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> bitlost: whats it say at the end? something about USB I should hope\
[02:44] <bitlost> yes
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: try running "kdesu restricted-manager"
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> bitlost: pastebin the last 20 lines or so.
[02:45] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: Tribe 6 is coming out soon
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> tribe 5 was just released I thought.
[02:45] <bitlost> nosrednaekim: http://pastebin.com/mc073f43
[02:46] <dwidmann> DaSkreech: restricted-manager-kde, KdeSudo, gdebi-kde, adept lists all the files in the packages (I'm not sure if I missed this in feisty or not, was it there ... I know that had to be new at some point)
[02:46] <aguitel> nosrednaekim ,it say :failed to open device
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: dont worry about that stuff.
[02:46] <Fusion_> dwidmann: yeah that worked this time. weird...
[02:46] <Fusion_> thanks
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> bitlost: that doesn't look good. does it do that for every device you plug in?
[02:46] <dwidmann> Fusion_: yeah ... if you don't "need" kdenetworkmanager, I recommend uninstalling it
[02:47] <bitlost> im trying another one
[02:47] <Fusion_> dwidmann: i think i'll do that. never use it anyway. thanks again
[02:48] <dwidmann> Fusion_: it probably won't be fixed til Gutsy+1, well, maybe it will be fixed in time for gutsy, they're working on it right now ...
[02:48] <dwidmann> and they *do* have a couple months
[02:48] <kteagan84> so I'm trying out kubuntu and I have to say it's quite nice. I am already used to gnome and xfce, but kde has its merits
[02:48] <kteagan84> it definitely seems better for new linux users, especially those used to windows
[02:49] <Fusion_> dwidmann: i hope so. that's a really weird bug. wouldn't have been able to figure that out myself
[02:49] <CPrgmSwR2> kteagan84: wait for kde4
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> kteagan84: most people are of the opposite opinion
[02:49] <dwidmann> kteagan84: yeah, I think that's why so many gnome users hate the defaults ... but I can't be sure ...
[02:49] <dwidmann> CPrgmSwR2: But that's like, 4 months away!
[02:49] <bitlost> nosrednaekim: http://pastebin.com/m4e0fa6b5
[02:49] <CPrgmSwR2> yeah I know
[02:49] <bitlost> nosrednaekim: looks a little different
[02:50] <dwidmann> CPrgmSwR2: and even longer till the .1 release ... and even longer before all the capabilities are fully utilized.
[02:50] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: or a compile away :)
[02:50] <kteagan84> dwidmann: hmm... yeah it's definitely worthwhile...I do like the defaults I guess I'm just used to gnome more :D
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> bitlost: IDK what the problem is.. post it on the forums or ask in #ubuntu
[02:51] <bitlost> ok thanks
[02:51] <dwidmann> DaSkreech: yeah .... if you're wanting a beta, wait, was the first beta out  yet? That reminds me, I need to install that.
[02:51] <Fusion_> if KDE4 works as stable as 3.5.x i'll be happy
[02:51] <dwidmann> DaSkreech:  you do know that there are packages for it in the repos right?
[02:51] <CPrgmSwR2> dwidmann: the second beta is only days away
[02:51] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: Beta2 is flagged
[02:51] <sayers> I told KDE to never store password for a site. Can Irevert that?
[02:51] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: yeah
[02:51] <dwidmann> sayers: probably
[02:52] <sayers> dwidmann: how? ;)
[02:52] <dwidmann> sayers, let me give it a quick glance, I'll figure something out
[02:55] <dwidmann> sayers, there's probably either a file for it, or perhaps it's blocked via a cookie, or somehow blocked in the kwallet, since it would store the password in the wallet, I'd check there first, next I would check for a config file in the ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/ folder
[02:56] <dwidmann> Ouch, it looks like kde4base is a 280mb download!
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> :)
[02:58] <Psycoshot> Hey, how do I check my video card driver?
[02:59] <dwidmann> Psycoshot: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:59] <klobster> java is still borked, even after a reinstall, on all users in Konq and in firefox.  It just hangs, randomly.  anyone have any ideas?
[02:59] <dwidmann> it'll be one of those listed
[02:59] <dwidmann> klobster: which version of java?
[02:59] <lavacano201014> klobster: get rid of it completely, uninstall it then delete any traces of it
[02:59] <lavacano201014> then reinstall
[03:00] <klobster> dwidmann: jre6
[03:00] <Psycoshot> dwidmann: It says ATI, is that a default?
[03:00] <Psycoshot> I have a ATI Radeon 9200
[03:00] <dwidmann> klobster: installed from the repos? ... perhaps downloading it off sun's site and installing it might work better
[03:01] <dwidmann> Psycoshot: yeah, that's the default open source reverse engineered ati driver.
[03:01] <Psycoshot> Ok, what should I get then?
[03:01] <klobster> dwidmann: maybe
[03:01] <Psycoshot> I suck at installing drivers
[03:02] <DaSkreech> Psycoshot: stick with that one I think it's the best one for 9200
[03:02] <dwidmann> Psycoshot: for? Depends on what you need, for some purposes there's nothing wrong with using that, particularly with some of the older radeons IIRC
[03:02] <Psycoshot> Well I have like SuperKaramba, kiba-dock and compiz-fusion, so its starting to lag.,
[03:03] <dwidmann> Psycoshot: glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"
[03:03] <dwidmann> Psycoshot: well, compiz-fusion isn't exactly light...
[03:03] <dwidmann> Psycoshot: it probably will lag on an older card like that.
[03:04] <Psycoshot> dwidmann: "Yes"
[03:05] <dwidmann> Psycoshot: yeah, then it's definitely the driver that's needed, then again, I think I knew that from the point you mentioned that compiz actually ran with the OSS driver.
[03:05] <Psycoshot> Ya
[03:06] <Psycoshot> Its all great, just slower reaction time,
[03:06] <dwidmann> Psycoshot: like I said, it's probably the card (being as it's old)
[03:06] <Psycoshot> Ya,
[03:06] <Psycoshot> Ok thanks for your help.
[03:06] <dwidmann> Psycoshot: no problem
[03:06] <sayers> dwidmann: ill ask in kde ;D
[03:07] <dwidmann> sayers:  saw nothing?
[03:07] <dwidmann> sayers: well, meanwhile I'll see if I can figure anything more out
[03:07] <sayers> dwidmann: I didnt look just yet, they might know the 'offical' way
[03:08] <dwidmann> :O I just noticed something in amarok 1.4.7 (gutsy)!!
[03:08] <sayers> dwidmann: :O what is it?
[03:08] <dwidmann> When the dialog window shows with the song title, if you were typing in a box that's under it, the text box shows thru! hurray!
[03:09] <sayers> dwidmann: thats good?
[03:09] <dwidmann> sayers: well, otherwise you have a window covering the textbox you're trying to type in, and IMO that's really quite annoying.
[03:15] <jhutchins> dwidmann: Amarok?
[03:15] <dwidmann> jhutchins: mmmmmhm
[03:15] <jhutchins> Yeah, amarok devs got braaaains.
[03:15] <dwidmann> jhutchins: not to mention mad skillz
[03:16] <dwidmann> sayers, have you tried clearing your cookies for the site?
[03:16] <dwidmann> (assuming there are any)
[03:17] <CPrgmSwR2> why kubuntu is so awsome
[03:17] <CPrgmSwR2> why = wow
[03:18] <klobster> nevermind, I think it's actually a flash thing.  and it appears to be common.
[03:18] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: Welcome my brethen :)
[03:18] <iskaldur> can anyone recommend a decent/cheap/under $40 graphics card that would allow me to run compiz fusion decently? (i don't care about games)
[03:19] <Biovore> iskaldur: cheap nvidia
[03:19] <Daisuke-Laptop> iskaldur: check newegg for low-end nvidia cards
[03:19] <sayers> dwidmann: no
[03:19] <Daisuke-Laptop> perhaps the 6200 range
[03:19] <CPrgmSwR2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048+4025+106790717&name=GeForce+7+series
[03:21] <iskaldur> so any of these will work well with kubuntu (no messy configuring) and run something like compiz fusion well?
[03:21] <CPrgmSwR2> iskaldur: just so long its not ati
[03:21] <Daisuke-Laptop> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121542
[03:22] <CPrgmSwR2> oh wow Daisuke-Laptop thats a good deal
[03:22] <CPrgmSwR2> mabye I should buy one
[03:23] <iskaldur> haha, hmm, ill get that one :) thanks
[03:23] <CPrgmSwR2> iskaldur: but I have to say you are taking a risk
[03:23] <Daisuke-Laptop> it's *not* a workhorse, but a relatively simple 3d card
[03:24] <iskaldur> cprgmswr2: why risk?
[03:25] <CPrgmSwR2> I read an article about how specs can sound great and all, while the card sucks period
[03:25] <dwidmann> CPrgmSwR2: well, there's not as much market for them anymore, seeing as they're on the lower end of a two generation old chipset.
[03:25] <CPrgmSwR2> so he should be fine with that one?
[03:25] <dwidmann> (if he as I suspected linked you to a 6200)
[03:26] <CPrgmSwR2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121542
[03:26] <CPrgmSwR2> thats the link
[03:26] <sayers> dwidmann: I tried that but no luck
[03:26] <danielronin> I need help, I'm getting invalid login...I think deleting .directory from  /kde/Autostart is why
[03:27] <BluesKaj> $40 for a video card to run 3D and DRI , compiz-beryl eyecandy is cutting it close :)
[03:27] <dwidmann> sayers: I just now tried, clearing the cookie(s) made it pop up and ask again ....
[03:27] <danielronin> I'm on my desktop now, but can't login to laptop
[03:27] <Biovore> That card will do fine..
[03:27] <CPrgmSwR2> iskaldur: I take that back.. I didn't notice the reviews
[03:27] <CPrgmSwR2> 104 said it was worth every penny of it
[03:28] <danielronin> can anyone help me pls?
[03:28] <danielronin> much thanks in advance
[03:28] <dwidmann> sayers: here was what I did, went to my banksite, logged in, said never for this site, closed out, went back in - it didn't prompt, nor remember, closed out, pulled up konqueror, cleared the cookies for my bank site, closed out, opened another konqueror, went to the site, it prompted this time.
[03:29] <Biovore> !ask
[03:29] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:29] <CPrgmSwR2> wow $139 for windows xp pro
[03:29] <dwidmann> danielronin: if deleting that dir caused the problem, why not just recreate that dir
[03:29] <sayers> CPrgmSwR2: what a deal!
[03:29] <danielronin> i can't log back in!
[03:29] <CPrgmSwR2> sayers: I know
[03:29] <danielronin> i don't have the laptop setup to ssh into either
[03:29] <dwidmann> CPrgmSwR2: wow, we all know why vista didn't drive the price down ;)
[03:30] <danielronin> is there a way to recreate the dir from the live cd?
[03:30] <dwidmann> danielronin: it's easy to setup ssh
[03:30] <dwidmann> danielronin: sudo apt-get install openssh-server, and you're good to go!
[03:30] <CPrgmSwR2> Said thing is that I have windows xp pro and it says I activated it too many times
[03:30] <sayers> dwidmann: we o?
[03:30] <sayers> that has not worked dwidmann
[03:30] <danielronin> can i do that when i can't even log into the machine?
[03:31] <dwidmann> CPrgmSwR2: call them and ask them for it, you get three free calls, and they hand out regs like candy hehe
[03:31] <sayers> danielronin: it needs to be on.
[03:31] <danielronin> it's not accepting my passwd now
[03:31] <danielronin> i can't get past the login screen
[03:31] <CPrgmSwR2> oh my gosh they charge you after the third call?
[03:31] <sayers> CPrgmSwR2: yeah
[03:31] <dwidmann> sayers: be sure that the password wasn't stored in a different set ... for example, when I deleted cookies there was wachovia.com and wach.wachovia.com, I had to delete both.
[03:31] <danielronin> does the .document file in .kde/Autostart keep the sudo passwd info?
[03:32] <CPrgmSwR2> sayers: how much do they charge you
[03:32] <sayers> CPrgmSwR2: All my crack money NOOOO I don't know :p
[03:32] <danielronin> i don't even know how to access anthing outside of the live cd =(
[03:32] <CPrgmSwR2> lol
[03:32] <dwidmann> danielronin, I know a potential fix
[03:32] <DaSkreech> danielronin: Hmm?
[03:32] <dwidmann> first things first though danielronin
[03:33] <danielronin> ok, i'm listening
[03:33] <sayers> dwidmann: this is still not working :)
[03:33] <dwidmann> danielronin: boot up in "recovery mode", then run "passwd username" (username being *your* username, and make sure it will work
[03:33] <danielronin> dang...only one problem with that
[03:33] <dwidmann> sayers: clear them all? ... all I can say is it got the worked-for-me stamp of approval
[03:34] <dwidmann> danielronin: oh good, only one
[03:34] <danielronin> i commented out the recovery mode option from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:34] <dwidmann> danielronin: that's fixable
[03:34] <danielronin> so that option isn't available from a non disc boo
[03:34] <danielronin> t
[03:34] <dwidmann> danielronin: when booting, press 'e' on the regular line
[03:34] <dwidmann> it'll take you into edit mode
[03:35] <dwidmann> now go down to the kernel line, press 'e' again, remove quiet and splash from the end, add single to the end, press enter, press  b
[03:36] <sayers> dwidmann: ah well I remember the password Ill see what I can do
[03:37] <dwidmann> sayers: sorry I couldn't do more for you ... seems to be behaving different for you :\
[03:41] <danielronin> aha! dwidmann: thanks for pointing me in the right direction
[03:41] <dwidmann> danielronin: it work?
[03:42] <danielronin> i was able to get in a handmake the .directory file by getting in that way
[03:42] <dwidmann> *nod*
[03:43] <danielronin> and tweaking the copy from my desktop
[03:43] <dwidmann> danielronin: alternatively you could've chrooted in from the livecd
[03:43] <danielronin> i'm in now, thanks again :^)
[03:43] <dwidmann> yw
[03:45] <encom> ubuntu-es
[03:45] <dwidmann> !es
[03:45] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:45] <encom> #ubuntu-es
[03:46] <godstorm> hello
[03:46] <godstorm> i need help
[03:46] <godstorm> if some one can
[03:46] <Jucato> !ask
[03:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:47] <godstorm> i need to know how i can use sound card for Listing and talk on TS
[03:47] <godstorm> at the same time
[03:47] <Jucato> TS?
[03:47] <godstorm> yea ts
[03:47] <Jucato> ah TeamSpeak?
[03:47] <godstorm> TeamSpeak
[03:48] <Jucato> sorry. no idea about teamspeak :(
[03:48] <godstorm> well i have it up and running
[03:48] <godstorm> and i install it
[03:48] <dwidmann> godstorm: not working ootb?
[03:48] <godstorm> ?
[03:48] <Jucato> ootb = out of the box
[03:48] <dwidmann> (out of the box)
[03:48] <godstorm> but the sound card use only one
[03:50] <godstorm> but it's use's one sorues tho like if i use Ts i can not use Mp3 to listen to my Songs
[03:51] <dwidmann> godstorm: some apps are like that. Probably need to use some sort of software mixing like dmixer or something ... try asking over in #alsa
[03:51] <godstorm> ok
[03:51] <godstorm> here one more
[03:51] <godstorm> how can i install gcc
[03:51] <godstorm> on here
[03:51] <DaSkreech> !b-e | godstorm
[03:51] <ubotu> godstorm: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:52] <godstorm> k
[03:52] <dwidmann> godstorm: I'd install the build-essential package, I'mnot sure if it depends on gcc though, so lets be explicit, "sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc"
[03:52] <stdin> dwidmann: it does
[03:52] <stdin> as it's a "build essential" :p
[03:53] <dwidmann> stdin: I wasn't sure if it did or not .... I knew it depended on g++ though ...
[03:53] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: you don't think that gcc is essential to building? :)
[03:53] <Jucato> dwidmann: g++ depends on gcc
[03:53] <dwidmann> hmm, figures, but I wasn't sure if it did or not
[03:53] <keesercc> anybody done a lan dns server with a hardware router that does dhcp but wont let you specify a IP adress for a given hardware address?
[03:53] <Jucato> after all, GCC is the GNU Compiler *collection* :)
[03:53] <dmk> anyone know of a good instant messenger that does aol,yahoo, and yahoo chat?
[03:53] <Jucato> (not the GNU C Compiler...)
[03:54] <DaSkreech> !yahoo
[03:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yahoo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:54] <TraX> dmk: Kopete
[03:54] <dwidmann> (anymore)
[03:54] <DaSkreech> blast :)
[03:54] <Jucato> kopete
[03:54] <DaSkreech> kopete
[03:54] <stdin> kopete
[03:54] <keesercc> dmk: kopete
[03:54] <BluesKaj> dunno if kopete does yahoo chat
[03:54] <dmk> thanks DaSkreech
[03:54] <stdin> everyone say "kopete"
[03:54] <Jucato> anyone else? :)
[03:54] <hitmanWilly> it does
[03:54] <dmk> I GOT KOPETE BUT NO YAHOO CHAT ROOMS
[03:54] <anyone> kopete
[03:54] <Jucato> er it doesn't
[03:54] <Jucato> !caps | dim
[03:54] <BluesKaj> toobad , yahoo is evil
[03:54] <ubotu> dim: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:54] <dmk> \sorry for caps
[03:54] <Jucato> !caps | dmk
[03:54] <ubotu> dmk: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:55] <dwidmann> wow, I count 5 Kopetes, redundancy anyone? just in case the person didn't see the first one
[03:55] <Jucato> yeah Kopete doesn't do yahoo chatrooms... but then again aside from Yahoo Messenger, what does?
[03:55] <BluesKaj> kopete , anyone ?
[03:55] <hitmanWilly> oh, chatrooms, not messenger, heh
[03:55] <dwidmann> Jucato: that's what was being asked
[03:55] <dmk> i was hoping kopete would
[03:55] <stdin> yahoo "chat rooms" are just IRC channels IIRC
[03:55] <daSkreech> Yahoo! under wine?
[03:55] <keesercc> sorry to repeat:  anybody done a lan dns server with a hardware router that does dhcp but wont let you specify a IP adress for a given hardware address?
[03:55] <dmk> really
[03:55] <dwidmann> stdin: really, hmm, any idea what the server address is?
[03:56] <dmk> i dont yahoo chat but im spying on my girlfriends parents, lol
[03:56] <BluesKaj> yup, irc with a yahoo gui
[03:56] <stdin> there is also a yahoo client for "unix" (linux)
[03:56] <dmk> well trying to
[03:56] <scheater5> dkm: Never tried that particullar feature, butin gaim when you "add chat" there's an option for a yahoo chat room
[03:56] <Jucato> I don't think the yahoo unix client does chatrooms either...
[03:56] <hitmanWilly> yeah, but it sucks
[03:56] <dmk> lol
[03:56] <stdin> dwidmann: no, but I'd guess chat.yahoo.com
[03:56] <dwidmann> stdin: they're funny that way aren't they? They say Unix then they give you debs and rpms  ...
[03:56] <dmk> ill try b that first thanks all
[03:57] <dmk> yeah i seen that on yahoo's site
[03:57] <leandro> hola
[03:57] <leandro> a todos
[03:58] <leandro> estoy en kubuntu lero lero
[03:58] <keesercc> anybody done a lan dns>
[03:58] <keesercc> ?
[03:58] <stdin> !es | leandro
[03:58] <ubotu> leandro: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:58] <daSkreech> keesercc: install bind
[03:58] <dwidmann> stdin: that's what it is, but it said that the connection is actively refused, what does that mean?
[03:58] <leandro> hello people, i'm from argentina
[03:59] <stdin> dwidmann: they probably use some strange port number
[03:59] <keesercc> daSkreech: thank you for responding.  I have installed bind9, my problem is the lan ip adresses are assigned by my router/dhcp server
[03:59] <kkathman> is there a keyboard command to get the menu back on konquerror - it seems to have disappeared :(
[03:59] <leandro> what is bind?
[03:59] <dwidmann> stdin: I think I'll try to dig it up.
[03:59] <daSkreech> kkathman: ctrl+M
[04:00] <stdin> dwidmann: you can connect with the java client on yahoos site and do a "netstat -ap" too see what it connects too
[04:00] <daSkreech> keesercc: what does that run?
[04:00] <kkathman> daSkreech:  thanks - I was using alt-M and CTRL-Alt M lol
[04:00] <mm_202> Hey guys, is there a decent video conference program for [K] Ubuntu?  Preferably something that would be able to conference with WIndows..
[04:00] <keesercc> daSkreech: the router/dhcp server?  its a actionec router from verizon.
[04:02] <daSkreech> That reminds me
[04:02] <daSkreech>  are there any project managment apps that have video?
[04:03] <dwidmann> stdin, I'll try that after this plan fails, I'm checking a few of the default yahoo ports
[04:04] <dwidmann> hmm, definitely not the same as the yahoo chat ports
[04:04] <scheater5> Anyone manged to get the real-time kernel from the gusty repos installed in 7.04?
[04:04] <sayers> is there a KDE version of Mono?
[04:05] <daSkreech> sayers: say again?
[04:05] <sayers> daSkreech: As in QT version of Mono
[04:05] <TraX> sayers: Check out MonoDevelop in synaptic
[04:05] <gandhii> my panel that I have set to auto hide...  isnt coming back up now when i roll my mouse over specified region...   is there a hotkey for making it appear?
[04:05] <sayers> TraX: that is GTK
[04:06] <daSkreech> sayers: you want an IDE or a new language?
[04:06] <sayers> daSkreech: Well long story is : I have to take VB Class and I want to make use out of it in linux.
[04:06] <Jucato> gandhii: press Alt+F2, type "kcontrol", go to Desktop -> Panels and reset the position of the panel
[04:07] <daSkreech> sayers: ah
[04:07] <daSkreech> sayers: try #kde-devel
[04:07] <gandhii> thanks alot  ;] 
[04:07] <TraX> sayers: Do you really need .net support?
[04:07] <daSkreech> I'm not sure how well Kdevelop handles mono but you can ask around
[04:08] <sayers> TraX: Need it.. No? Want it.. Not really. However I want to be able to say to the teacher, that vb code can still be taught for linux or could I use python
[04:09] <CPrgmSwR2> I am having to take a VB class too
[04:09] <daSkreech> sayers: Well if it helps any you can install monodevelop and still run it fine
[04:10] <TraX> sayers: Well if your not doing vb.net then you could look into kdevelop
[04:10] <dwidmann> stdin: the more I think about it, the more I think it'll try to use port 80 for everything (web interface ... that people will want to use at school/work/etc behind a firewall)
[04:10] <TraX> sayers: And MonoDevelop works in kde
[04:10] <sayers> TraX: so I can still do VB code in Kdevelop?
[04:10] <dwidmann> sayers: python ftw!
[04:10] <sayers> dwidmann: I know but I dont know if he knows
[04:10] <TraX> sayers: Let me look
[04:11] <encom> #ubuntu-es
[04:11] <CPrgmSwR2> I don't think kdevelop supports vb coding
[04:11] <sayers> maybe he will let me do python
[04:11] <sayers> which is accutely easier than VB
[04:11] <dwidmann> sayers: you can do vb code in notepad. Compiling, running, and debugging it is another story.
[04:12] <CPrgmSwR2> sayers: what about java
[04:12] <CPrgmSwR2> or c++
[04:12] <daSkreech> Is it VB.net?
[04:13] <flaccid0s> um
[04:13] <flaccid0s> vb is discontinued
[04:13] <dwidmann> If it is VB.net, I feel sorry for you already. I hate vb.net ... it's like microsoft took all of the few merits vb had, and twisted it into a pain in the ass with no merit at all ...
[04:14] <dwidmann> If I ever do have to touch .Net code please let it be C#, please?
[04:14] <sayers> CPrgmSwR2: I have Java books and kinda understand java, probably will ask him if I can do java and or Python instead of VB
[04:14] <CPrgmSwR2> if you can do java, then use eclipse
[04:14] <flaccid0s> rule of thumb. don't do vb :)
[04:14] <hitmanWilly> dwidmann: what, MS's attempt at embrace/extend with C?
[04:14] <dwidmann> or netbeans, it isn't particularly bad either
[04:15] <dwidmann> hitmanWilly: it's more like,  J#, there Java ripoff that they got sued for.
[04:15] <dwidmann> With some changes
[04:15] <dwidmann> *their
[04:15] <flaccid0s> c# is really good
[04:15] <sayers> CPrgmSwR2: I like Netbeans more
[04:15] <sayers> how can i setup my filemanager to use konquerer isntead of dolphin
[04:15] <dwidmann> flaccid0s: which is why I say If I ever have to touch .Net code, please let it be C# ;)
[04:15] <CPrgmSwR2> I like eclpse more.. it doesn't feel all bloated
[04:16] <flaccid0s> dwidmann: i agree with you :)
[04:16] <CPrgmSwR2> even Microsofts VB.net resembles that of java
[04:17] <dwidmann> CPrgmSwR2: What an insult, poor, poor Java :(
[04:18] <CPrgmSwR2> I apologize java, and java is the one that really shifted programmers into writing very safe code
[04:19] <dwidmann> 2 gatorades later I'm finally starting to feel semi-hydrated again :)
[04:19] <malik__> hello ppl good afternoon from downunder
[04:19] <dwidmann> malik__: good night from up over :P
[04:20] <BluesKaj> hey malik__
[04:20] <malik__> hey BluesKaj
[04:20] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: I've been meaning to tell you something for oh, a couple of days now, an interesting thing with regards to sftp
[04:20] <santiago_> Hi everyone, can someone tell me how to swith the dialog buttons ( ok, cancel) in gtk applications ( eg: firefox, gvim) to match the KDE order?
[04:20] <flaccid0s> dwidmann: what is it
[04:20] <BluesKaj> ok dwidmann , fire away
[04:21] <daSkreech> kate apparently supports Kbasic but not Vbasic
[04:21] <daSkreech> or even basic basic :)
[04:21] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: the ~1.2MBs transfer is actually a bug in KIO-fish/KIO-sftp ... running sftp in a shell produces much faster transfers
[04:21] <stdin> santiago_: you can't really, it's designed that way
[04:21] <mm_202> Is there a decent video conference program for [K] Ubuntu?  Preferably something that would be able to conference with Windows too..
[04:22] <daSkreech> mm_202: which program in windows?
[04:22] <leandro> hola a todos, alguien que hable en espaol?
[04:22] <leandro> fans de windows por aca? jaja
[04:22] <daSkreech> !es | leandro
[04:22] <ubotu> leandro: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:22] <santiago_> stdin: I'm sure it's possible, I used to have them right in my previous distro, I just don't know how to set them
[04:22] <mm_202> daSkreech: umm, any.  Basically, I want to video conf with my gf, but she's on a Windows machine, she has Yahoo Messenger, MSNM, etc.  Netmeeting?
[04:22] <Fusion_> hi! would you guys know the repo for kbfx 0.4.9.3.1?
[04:23] <mm_202> But I just dont see a Linux program for that.
[04:23] <TraX> mm_202: Kopete should work for Yahoo
[04:23] <daSkreech> mm_202: kopete should be able to do Yahoo video
[04:23] <mm_202> Seems that Ekiga might be able to do that
[04:23] <mm_202> oh really?
[04:23] <daSkreech> and MSN to a lesser extent
[04:23] <mm_202> Sweet, okay.
[04:23] <mm_202> daSkreech, thank you, I'll play with it :)
[04:23] <BluesKaj> how about pidgin/
[04:23] <daSkreech> mm_202: You have to install jasper
[04:24] <daSkreech> libjasper-runtime I think
[04:24] <mm_202> hmm, and what is it?
[04:24] <daSkreech> the library that kopete uses to display webcam
[04:24] <stdin> Fusion_: it's not available in feisty, it will be in gutsy
[04:24] <mm_202> ah, ok
[04:24] <mm_202> thank you.
[04:24] <mm_202> apt-get'ing now :)
[04:25] <Fusion_> stdin: if i compile from source, would that upgrade my current one or would i have two?
[04:25] <daSkreech> Fusion_: Two I think
[04:25] <daSkreech> You could replace it but that's nasty
[04:25] <Fusion_> aarg!
[04:26] <flaccid0s> Fusion_: two unless they use same file locations
[04:26] <daSkreech> Fusion_: Do a checkinstall
[04:26] <stdin> Fusion_: if you compiled it from source and then made a .deb then it would update, otherwise no
[04:26] <Fusion_> i wouldn't have the slightest idea how to make it into a deb :)
[04:27] <dwidmann> checkinstall
[04:28] <stdin> possibly checkinstall (although I personally don't like it)
[04:28] <Arwen> !packaging | Fusion_
[04:28] <ubotu> Fusion_: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[04:28] <dwidmann> Fusion_: "sudo apt-get install checkinstall; ./configure; make; make checkinstall
[04:28] <dwidmann> "
[04:28] <Arwen> checkinstall sucks in every possible way
[04:28] <scheater5> Anyone got the real time kernel from the gusty repos installed on Feisty
[04:28] <dwidmann> Arwen: but it works minimally, which is all a person really needs for a one-time package.
[04:28] <Arwen> breaks dependency resolving
[04:28] <Arwen> especially reverse dependencies
[04:28] <CPrgmSwR2> Has anyone tried out openoffice.org 2.3
[04:28] <Arwen> me
[04:28] <Arwen> it's ok
[04:28] <CPrgmSwR2> they have improved the start time quite a bit
[04:29] <Fusion_> thanks guys. i'll give it a shot
[04:29] <stdin> scheater5: you can follow http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-upgrade-kernel2622-9-generic-in-feisty-fawn.html
[04:29] <CPrgmSwR2> why is gutsy suppose to be release
[04:29] <CPrgmSwR2> released
[04:29] <stdin> CPrgmSwR2: why or when?
[04:29] <dwidmann> CPrgmSwR2: september, mid-september
[04:29] <flaccid0s> !gutsy
[04:29] <stdin> !gutsy
[04:29] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[04:29] <scheater5> stdin: I actually have seen and followed that to get the generic kernel installed, but I hit a dependency problem when I tried to install the real-time
[04:30] <Jucato> dwidmann: it's always april and october
[04:30] <dwidmann> or wait, not september, october ... that's what I mean, bah
[04:30] <Jucato> :P
[04:30] <CPrgmSwR2> interesting
[04:30] <dwidmann> It's september now afterall
[04:30] <CPrgmSwR2> its as if ubuntu and fedora where planning on incorperating kde4
[04:30] <CPrgmSwR2> but thats not going to happen now
[04:30] <dwidmann> CPrgmSwR2: won't be default not even in gutsy+1 ... maybe gutsy+2
[04:30] <stdin> fedora maybe, kubuntu wasn't
[04:31] <stdin> dwidmann: nope :p
[04:31] <Jucato> CPrgmSwR2: kubuntu never planned that until gutsy+2 (8.10)
[04:31] <CPrgmSwR2> oh
[04:31] <stdin> dwidmann: shame, tho there will be packages I'm sure
[04:31] <dwidmann> In other words, a  year and two months away ....
[04:31] <Jucato> there will be packages of course
[04:31] <dwidmann> stdin: there better be :)
[04:31] <Jucato> it just won't be the default until 8.10
[04:31] <stdin> I'm sure there will be, I'll make them if not :p
[04:32] <dwidmann> stdin: then again, there's always that fact that there already are.
[04:32] <CPrgmSwR2> is there a way to install openoffice.org 2.3 on fiesty
[04:32] <Fusion_> would the gutsy backports have the latest kbfx?
[04:32] <stdin> CPrgmSwR2: I doubt it, not without having some unholy mix of feisty and gutsy
[04:32] <dwidmann> CPrgmSwR2: might be able to download the packages from gutsy and install them, ymmv
[04:32] <CPrgmSwR2> oh
[04:32] <stdin> Fusion_: it's not in feisty-backports no
[04:33] <daSkreech> Jucato: and a CD!!
[04:33] <dwidmann> stdin: there was a period there for two or three weeks where I was running just that :P
[04:33] <Jucato> daSkreech: that all depends. only the packages are 100% sure
[04:33] <CPrgmSwR2> That is one draw back to kubuntu is that you upgrade all at once not over time like in gentoo
[04:33] <dmk> anyone running kde4 beta on feisty?
[04:33] <CPrgmSwR2> me
[04:33] <scheater5> So no one knows why I would be able to upgrade the generic and not the real time kernel?
[04:33] <Fusion_> stdin: in gutsy-backports?
[04:33] <Jucato> Ubuntu never was about rolling releases :)
[04:34] <dmk> is there a lot more cpu consumption ?, im on a 550MHz
[04:34] <stdin> Fusion_: gutsy-backports is empty, nothing to backport to gutsy yet
[04:34] <CPrgmSwR2> dmk: there should be less
[04:34] <CPrgmSwR2> because qt4 uses less memory
[04:34] <daSkreech> Jucato: Me wants CD!!
[04:34] <Jucato> you makes CD!
[04:34] <Jucato> :P
[04:34] <CPrgmSwR2> dmk: why, does it seem slow
[04:35] <dmk> i havent installed yet
[04:35] <dmk> i was going to do a little research first
[04:35] <CPrgmSwR2> oh, I am actually using svn copy
[04:35] <dmk> if it supposedly runs faster i will try it
[04:35] <CPrgmSwR2> dmk: its not worth downloading yet
[04:35] <stdin> dmk: kde3 and kde4 will be kept separate, you will still use kde3 by default
[04:35] <CPrgmSwR2> as its not really usable
[04:35] <CPrgmSwR2> but it does look really neat
[04:36] <Jucato> stdin: for now...
[04:36] <dmk> i have low hdd space also, how do i install as default and remove kde3 at the same time ?
[04:36] <dwidmann> I have 280mb to download before I can run kde4 ... seeing as it'll be a couple days till the next beta is out I'm not even going to bother to upgrade now ... I'll save my bandwidth ... seeing as it'll take me a couple days to get it :(
[04:36] <dwidmann> dmk: that's probably not the best course of action atm
[04:36] <CPrgmSwR2> dmk: how much hard drive space do you have?
[04:36] <dmk> CPrgmSwR2: if its not really sable i might install alongside kde3
[04:36] <Jucato> dwidmann: if you're installing from svn, only the first download is heavy. subsequent updates are not that big
[04:36] <CPrgmSwR2> dmk: its not stable
[04:37] <dmk> CPrgmSwR2: im gonna check the installed size and if i have room ill  try it
[04:37] <CPrgmSwR2> dmk: its very difficult to even run programs in kde4 right now
[04:37] <stdin> dmk: you can't use kde4 as default right now, and I don't see why you'd want to
[04:37] <Jucato> unless you're a developer of sorts
[04:37] <stdin> dmk: unless, that is, you like things crashing all the time :p
[04:37] <dwidmann> Jucato: , true, I suppose I *could* install from svn instead. it'll be more trouble but I suppose it would make more sense.... My biggest problem is that I'll be FAPd before I can finish the download.
[04:37] <dmk> i ran debian sid for 5 years so im used to it, lol
[04:38] <CPrgmSwR2> dmk: yeah but are you use to now task switcher and an unsuable panel
[04:38] <Biovore> dmk: Sid stuff works compared to svn of kde4
[04:38] <Jucato> dwidmann: building from svn didn't take me more than 5 hours last friday iirc
[04:38] <CPrgmSwR2> now = no
[04:38] <dwidmann> funny, I found debian sid to be relatively stable when I used it ...
[04:38] <Jucato> the download was the longest,
[04:38] <Biovore> kde4 is uber buggy at m
[04:38] <CPrgmSwR2> kde4 infact is so buggy right now they pushed the release date back to december
[04:38] <dmk> sid was constantly broken
[04:38] <dwidmann> Jucato: what are your specs?
[04:39] <Biovore> dmk: I know.. I ran sid for a long time as well..
[04:39] <Jucato> 1.5Ghz? 512kbps bandwidth
[04:39] <Biovore> dmk: don;t bother with kde4 right now unless you know QT4 and are a developer
[04:39] <dwidmann> Jucato: model of processor?
[04:39] <Jucato> AMD sempron 2200
[04:39] <dmk> i think ill take that advice and wait for the stable release
[04:40] <Jucato> yes, wise thing to do :)
[04:40] <CPrgmSwR2> dmk: still here
[04:40] <dwidmann> Jucato: hmm, my laptop should be able to do it in about 2 hours or so then ... it's getting it that is the hard part. Maybe I should find a hotspot to leach off of ....
[04:40] <dmk> it is tempting though, i really like kde and cant wait to see the improvements/bugs
[04:40] <CPrgmSwR2> dmk: there is a livecd of kde4 that you can burn if you just want to check it out
[04:40] <dmk> on kde's site ?
[04:40] <CPrgmSwR2> yes
[04:41] <Jucato> dmk: you might want to wait for the KDE 4 Live CD (using openSUSE) then
[04:41] <dmk> thanks, im gonna check that out
[04:41] <Jucato> it's not an official KDE CD though
[04:41] <CPrgmSwR2> http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/
[04:41] <CPrgmSwR2> there it is
[04:41] <dmk> cool, much appreciated
[04:41] <daSkreech> dmk: if you can't wait to see the bugs just svn up :)
[04:41] <BluesKaj> Jucato, i already tried the suse live cd ...couldn't load , hardware driver failure
[04:42] <dmk> lol, i think im gonna try the live cd
[04:42] <CPrgmSwR2> daSkreech: he has hard drive issues
[04:42] <Jucato> BluesKaj: heh how unlucky :P
[04:42] <dwidmann> Jucato: darn, even getting just the build deps for kdebase is 180mb
[04:42] <CPrgmSwR2> dmk: also note that beta2 is just days away
[04:42] <Jucato> dwidmann: build-deps? what?!?!
[04:42] <BluesKaj> yeah, think I still have the cd-rw around
[04:42] <dmk> is it going to be available via apt  ?
[04:43] <dwidmann> Jucato: build deps. yes. "sudo apt-get build-dep kde4base"
[04:43] <Jucato> dmk: what is?
[04:43] <Jucato> dwidmann: O.o
[04:43] <CPrgmSwR2> is kde4 going to available via apt
[04:43] <Jucato> making life harder for yourself, I see... :P
[04:43] <dwidmann> CPrgmSwR2: it already is
[04:43] <CPrgmSwR2> oh
[04:43] <CPrgmSwR2> I didn't know that
[04:43] <Jucato> at least beta1 and alpha# something
[04:43] <dmk> i wasnt aware of that
[04:44] <dwidmann> Jucato: I'm a glutton for punisment :P
[04:44] <stdin> CPrgmSwR2: see the /topic
[04:44] <CPrgmSwR2> I use the svn copy
[04:44] <dmk> kdebase4 ?
[04:44] <CPrgmSwR2> oh
[04:44] <Jucato> CPrgmSwR2: you're better off with building your own for now
[04:44] <dwidmann> dmk: think it's kde4base
[04:44] <dmk> duh, lol
[04:44] <stdin> dmk: there is a link in the channel topic that give instructions
[04:45] <Jucato> dmk: see the last link in the channel topic
[04:45] <Jucato> be warned: it's for developers only for a reason :)
[04:46] <Jucato> dwidmann: if you follow the guide from http://techbase.kde.org your life would be much easier
[04:46] <CPrgmSwR2> what do I download in order to get flash support from apt-get
[04:46] <Jucato> you would only need to apt-get about 20+ packages (less than 40 definitely)
[04:46] <Jucato> CPrgmSwR2: flashplugin-nonfree
[04:46] <dwidmann> Jucato: I shall, just as soon as I have some of the build deps out of the way ....
[04:47] <dwidmann> Jucato: that'll use up all of my bandwidth and then some, I'll have to finish that download tomorrow morning actually
[04:47] <Jucato> dwidmann: you don't need builddeps!!!
[04:47] <Jucato> oh well your call...
[04:48] <Jucato> dwidmann: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4
[04:48] <CPrgmSwR2> http://youtube.com/watch?v=vJRu6PiZ_5M
[04:48] <CPrgmSwR2> you can see kde4 without downloading it
[04:49] <Jucato> heh
[04:49] <dwidmann> bah, screencasts don't count.
[04:49] <CPrgmSwR2> lol
[04:50] <Okapi> hello to all
[04:50] <Okapi> today I am completely disappointed by Feist...
[04:51] <daSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: the time those take to upload they are probably out of date :)
[04:51] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: what happened
[04:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> well THAT was educational
[04:51] <Okapi> Since this morning I am trrying to recovery my machine but no luck
[04:51] <CPrgmSwR2> It crashed?
[04:51] <Okapi> I had a Kernel panic error and since then....
[04:51] <CPrgmSwR2> What is the kernel panic error
[04:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> never upgrade libdecoration0 without upgrading the rest of compiz -_-
[04:52] <Okapi> I really do not know..try some research on google but no luck.
[04:52] <dwidmann> Jucato: I find this funny. First step in the article was installing build deps :P
[04:52] <Jucato> dwidmann: not the apt-get build-dep kind of installing build deps
[04:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> panels weren't showing up -_-
[04:53] <Okapi> the worse part I just reboot my machine and voila...Kernel Panic!
[04:53] <dwidmann> Jucato: same sort of deal, installs a plethora of -dev packages.
[04:53] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: can you get the error message that goes with Kernel Panic
[04:53] <Okapi> I have this error when I start my pc: Kernet panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0). Any one can help?
[04:54] <Jucato> dwidmann: but 1) less than what you you're doing right now and 2) only the necesssary stuff
[04:54] <Jucato> but like I said, your call :)
[04:54] <dwidmann> Jucato: I have a feeling sometime later I'm going to regret having cancelled that to follow this article (which I would have inevitably had to go find for step 2 ...)
[04:55] <Okapi> Now, after fsck for trying to repare my hard drive...the error change.
[04:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> Kermit panic!  Fatal pig violation
[04:55] <Okapi> I do not have the installation disk for Feist..
[04:55] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: do you have any linux live cd?
[04:55] <Okapi> I do not have an empty cd to copy one...
[04:55] <Okapi> yes i do
[04:56] <CPrgmSwR2> So you can make another live cd of Fiesty?
[04:56] <daSkreech> Daisuke_Laptop: >_<
[04:56] <Okapi> I have the Kubuntu 6.06
[04:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> daSkreech: i'm just happy to have figured out that a borked upgrade hosed gnome
[04:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> (well, gnome's panels)
[04:57] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: also what where you last doing before you restarted your computer
[04:58] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: I was downloading some software from Azureus and amule..
[05:00] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: do you have any important files?
[05:00] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: not really..
[05:00] <_2> what's an important file ?
[05:00] <CPrgmSwR2> Its possible to resolve the issue, but in your case it would be faster to just re-install
[05:01] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: please do not make me reinstall it
[05:01] <CPrgmSwR2> okay
[05:01] <_2> okapi  what issue ?
[05:01] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: now I put the livecd On and it is booting..
[05:01] <CPrgmSwR2> okay
[05:02] <CPrgmSwR2> do you have more than one hard drive Okapi?>
[05:02] <Okapi> _2: I have kernel panic error and can not but Feist anymore
[05:02] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: no...just one
[05:02] <CPrgmSwR2> okay
[05:03] <CPrgmSwR2> Kernet panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[05:03] <CPrgmSwR2> this his kernel panic message
[05:03] <_2> Okapi you need to rebuild the initramfs image
[05:03] <Okapi> I have this error when I start my pc: Kernet panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0). Any one can help?
[05:04] <Okapi> _2: please be more specific and tell me how..
[05:05] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: did you get the livecd booted
[05:05] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: it all most there...Gnome loading
[05:06] <_2> Okapi  mount the root of the installed os  sudo chroot <mountpoint> mkinitramfs -o /boot/ram*<version> <version>    <<<< intrepret all within <>
[05:06] <CPrgmSwR2> _2: I think you have to be a little more specific than that for Okapi
[05:07] <Okapi> _2: yes..please
[05:07] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: livecd is on..
[05:07] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: you going to open a terminal under applications menu then accessories
[05:07] <CPrgmSwR2> once you have the terminal open
[05:07] <CPrgmSwR2> type # sudo passwd root
[05:08] <Yorokobi> Why would you set a password for root on a LiveCD?
[05:08] <CPrgmSwR2> and give it a password for now, its only going to stick with the livecd and will be gone when you reboot
[05:08] <CPrgmSwR2> Yorokobi: so you can work as root
[05:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> and your other option is to, hey, NOT set a root password and just use sudo like a sane person.
[05:08] <Yorokobi> sudo -s, problem solved; no password required.
[05:08] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: done
[05:09] <Yorokobi> or sudo -i
[05:09] <Yorokobi> or su -
[05:09] <daSkreech> Yorokobi: Sudo -i
[05:09] <CPrgmSwR2> I find that sudo stuff doesn't work sometimes
[05:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> um
[05:09] <CPrgmSwR2> and rather annoying at times
[05:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> huh?
[05:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> sudo -i or sudo -s
[05:09] <CPrgmSwR2> what does sudo -i and sudo -s do?
[05:10] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: what next?
[05:10] <Yorokobi> -i gives you a login shell as root, -s just changes you to root
[05:10] <daSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: sudo -i gives you a root console that times out
[05:10] <CPrgmSwR2> sudo mkdir /mnt/kubuntu
[05:10] <CPrgmSwR2> and sudo -s?
[05:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> -s changes you to root
[05:10] <Jucato> man:/sudo :)
[05:10] <CPrgmSwR2> Oh I didn't know that
[05:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> without the whole root account problem
[05:11] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: done
[05:11] <CPrgmSwR2> okay
[05:11] <Jucato> I think sudo -i is like su -, and sudo -s is like plain su
[05:11] <CPrgmSwR2> now type sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/kubuntu
[05:12] <CPrgmSwR2> I am still use to the gentoo way of doing things
[05:12] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: done
[05:12] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: next type # sudo chroot /mnt/kubuntu /bin/bash
[05:13] <osiris> how would i go about disabling startup services on a headless server.  what is the file i need to edit again ?
[05:13] <Yorokobi> osiris, headless? No monitor?
[05:13] <osiris> no
[05:13] <daSkreech> osiris: you need to read up on SysV
[05:14] <osiris> i thought it was just a file, i comment out an entry in
[05:14] <intelikey> osiris ^ if it's sysV and not 'upstart'   use update-rc.d
[05:14] <Yorokobi> osiris, most (not all) services have a start/stop script in /etc/init.d/ that you can add 'exit 0' to the 2nd line to disable.
[05:14] <intelikey> if it's upstart then  idk
[05:14] <daSkreech> intelikey: Right I keep forgetting about upstart :(
[05:15] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: error, cannot run command "/bin/bash": no such file or directory.
[05:15] <stdin> intelikey: upstart used init scripts too
[05:15] <osiris> the second line ofthe starup script found in/etc/init.d right ?
[05:15] <intelikey> stdin i'll have to take your word on that.   i've never seen upstart yet
[05:15] <osiris> i dont want exim4 starting
[05:16] <Yorokobi> osiris, right after the #!/bin/sh line
[05:16] <CPrgmSwR2> How do you chroot on a kubuntu install
[05:16] <intelikey> osiris no.
[05:16] <CPrgmSwR2> thats weird
[05:16] <intelikey> you don't want to go editing scripts just to turn off a service.
[05:16] <stdin> intelikey: well it's backwards compatible
[05:16] <daSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: umm
[05:16] <CPrgmSwR2> I think I mounted the wrong partition
[05:16] <daSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: chroot /path/to/dir ?
[05:16] <Yorokobi> intelikey, very true, but it works in a crunch (but fails on service upgrade) :)
[05:17] <intelikey> stdin would you please tell osiris about update-rc.d
[05:17] <CPrgmSwR2> Do I mount hda1 or hda5?
[05:17] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: I do not thing, because that another error I am getting now after fsck..
[05:17] <stdin> osiris: use "sudo update-rc.d Service remove" to stop a service from starting
[05:17] <CPrgmSwR2> oh no
[05:17] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: please don't run fsck
[05:18] <CPrgmSwR2> That can delete your harddrive
[05:18] <CPrgmSwR2> while drives are mounted
[05:18] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: I did that this afternoon...I was desperate..
[05:18] <intelikey> yeah don't fsck it up if it's mounted
[05:18] <stdin> osiris: (replacing "Service" with the name of the service of course)
[05:18] <osiris> sudo update-rc.d exim4 remove
[05:18] <osiris> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/exim4 exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)
[05:19] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi type this # umount /mnt/kubuntu
[05:19] <stdin> osiris: yeah, add the -f there
[05:19] <CPrgmSwR2> then type # mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/kubuntu
[05:19] <stdin> osiris: sudo update-rc.d -f exim4 remove
[05:19] <osiris> that worked
[05:19] <osiris> thank you VERY much
[05:19] <stdin> osiris: that will keep the script there (should you want to manually start it too)
[05:20] <osiris> i want it totally gone
[05:20] <osiris> i have no need for it, as i just need sshd, http and ftp on it
[05:20] <intelikey> then remove the package
[05:20] <osiris> i thought i DID, and it was still starting
[05:20] <stdin> osiris: then remove the package with "apt-get --purge remove exim4"
[05:21] <osiris> said not installed, so not removed
[05:21] <osiris> weird, eh ?
[05:21] <intelikey> !info exim4
[05:21] <ubotu> exim4: metapackage to ease exim MTA (v4) installation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.63-11build1 (feisty), package size 2 kB, installed size 48 kB
[05:21] <stdin> osiris: have you removed exim4-base too ?
[05:21] <osiris> running dapper btw
[05:21] <dwidmann> Hm, I've got a curious/odd question. Can Amarok use fish:/ or sftp:/ directories for its collection?
[05:22] <stdin> (as exim4-base is the package with the init script in it)
[05:22] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: error, can't find /dev/hda5/mnt/kubuntu
[05:22] <osiris> stdin, THATS it
[05:22] <osiris> thanks again
[05:22] <intelikey> apt-get --purge remove exim4-base
[05:22] <Okapi> ls
[05:23] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi there is a space between hda5 and /mnt
[05:23] <stdin> dwidmann: I don't thinks so, I tried it a while ago and it gave some error. (use sshfs to "mount" the directory over ssh, it rocKs)
[05:23] <CPrgmSwR2> so it reads #mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/kubuntu
[05:23] <intelikey> can't find /dev/hda5/mnt/kubuntu <<< space
[05:23] <dwidmann> stdin: thanks for the tip, I'll try that if I need to do it in the future
[05:24] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: error, /dev/hda5 looks like swapspace - not mounted
[05:24] <stdin> dwidmann: I'm actually streaming my music over ssh and playing it with amarok this very second :p
[05:24] <CPrgmSwR2> okay
[05:24] <hydrogen> dwidmann: no
[05:24] <intelikey> cat /proc/partitions
[05:24] <intelikey> don't flood.
[05:25] <dwidmann> intelikey: here I'd avoided ssh up until recently because I feared it might be more difficult to set up. Here I set it up the other day and man was I in for a surprise ..... only wish I'd have known it was so much easier to use ssh than anything else sooner.
[05:25] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: re-type #umount /mnt/kubuntu
[05:25] <CPrgmSwR2> wait
[05:25] <CPrgmSwR2> that is not nessary
[05:25] <osiris> just out of curiosity, why would i need kgameportd running ?
[05:26] <CPrgmSwR2> type in #mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/kubuntu
[05:26] <intelikey> dwidmann you should have asked.    you can pretty much rest assured that if i'm using it it's pretty easy to use.
[05:26] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: done
[05:26] <CPrgmSwR2> okay now type # ls /mnt/kubuntu
[05:27] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: done
[05:27] <CPrgmSwR2> do you get a list of directories
[05:27] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: yes
[05:27] <dwidmann> intelikey: the thing is, samba used to work well for me ... then it seemed to break in feisty ...... First I tried to try nfs and it really is a PITA to set up, forget what made me try ssh but I'm glad I did.
[05:27] <CPrgmSwR2> is there one with /boot and another with /etc and another with /dev?
[05:28] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: yes
[05:28] <CPrgmSwR2> is there one with /bin
[05:28] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: yes
[05:29] <intelikey> dwidmann hmmmm well maybe i better rethink that.   i didn't have any trubble with nfs...
[05:29] <CPrgmSwR2> what does # ls /mnt/kubuntu/bin/bash give you?
[05:29] <CPrgmSwR2> it should output bash
[05:29] <intelikey> oh static ips  and i bet you use dhcp
[05:29] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: is this my old directories or not?
[05:29] <CPrgmSwR2> thats your files
[05:29] <intelikey> dwidmann yeah dhcp would make it harder i think
[05:29] <CPrgmSwR2> you are looking at /
[05:29] <dwidmann> intelikey: a weird combo of the two right now, static dhcp.
[05:30] <CPrgmSwR2> chroot is suppose to put you inside your installation
[05:30] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: ok, because I had them before i mount kubuntu...
[05:30] <daSkreech> sudo chroot /mnt/kubuntu
[05:30] <dsmith> "abiword abiword-common abiword-plugins anthy gnumeric-common gnumeric-gtk gqview" anyof this have kubuntu-desktop dependencies?
[05:30] <CPrgmSwR2> daSkreech: the /bin/bash is not nessary?
[05:30] <dwidmann> The problem I ran into actually is that it was refusing the connections, yet I know it worked ... tested it by mounting localhost first.
[05:31] <Jucato> dsmith: most likely not. those are GTK/GNOME apps
[05:31] <daSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: I've never used it :)
[05:31] <dwidmann> dsmith: no
[05:31] <daSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: it just kinda finds it
[05:31] <intelikey> dsmith i wouldn't think so.   why would it depend on a meta package ?
[05:31] <stdin> dsmith: "apt-cache rdepends <package>" will tell you
[05:31] <dsmith> then why did kubuntu-desktop try to emove itself
[05:31] <dsmith> hmmmmmmmm
[05:31] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: do you want me to try daskreech suggestion?
[05:31] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: try typeing sudo chroot /mnt/kubuntu
[05:32] <dwidmann> dsmith: because apt-get can be weird sometimes. Probably a different problem.
[05:32] <intelikey> dsmith you removed abiword and it took kubuntu-desktop with it ???
[05:32] <dsmith> i am cleaning off xubuntu
[05:32] <dsmith> well I have this huge remove list and I noticed kubuntu-desktop pkg removed
[05:33] <dsmith> i reinstalled it with a few others
[05:33] <dsmith> Removing kubuntu-desktop ...
[05:33] <dsmith> Removing language-selector-qt ...
[05:33] <dsmith> Removing adept ...
[05:33] <dsmith> Removing adept-batch ...
[05:33] <dwidmann> kubuntu-desktop depends on adept
[05:33] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: error, chroot: cannot run command '/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[05:33] <Jucato> !paste | dsmith
[05:33] <ubotu> dsmith: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:33] <dsmith> oh I forgot about pastbin
[05:34] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: type in # ls /mnt/kubuntu/bin/bash
[05:34] <CPrgmSwR2> did that give you bash as an output
[05:35] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: error, No such file or directory
[05:35] <CPrgmSwR2> ouch
[05:35] <dsmith> here is my list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36140/
[05:35] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: please, do not give up...
[05:35] <CPrgmSwR2> you have no bash
[05:35] <dsmith> intelikey: meta pkg?
[05:35] <intelikey> dsmith kubuntu-desktop
[05:36] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: what is that mean?
[05:36] <CPrgmSwR2> what does # ls /mnt/kubuntu/bin give you
[05:36] <Jucato> dsmith: might because libxine1 is being removed too?
[05:36] <dwidmann> ooh boy, looks like my laptops going to get a good chance to heat up now :\
[05:36] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: error, No such file or directory
[05:37] <daSkreech> Probably chrooted already
[05:37] <CPrgmSwR2> what does # ls /mnt/kubuntu give you
[05:37] <dwidmann> dsmith: a metapackage is a package with nothing in it that depends on other packages.
[05:37] <dsmith> dwidmann: oh ok
[05:37] <Jucato> dsmith: as well as scim I think
[05:37] <dsmith> Jucato: I am picking through the list for the ones I know for sure
[05:37] <intelikey> regress maybe
[05:38] <CPrgmSwR2> regress?
[05:38] <CPrgmSwR2> huh
[05:38] <intelikey> is he in the chroot looking for the mountpoint ?
[05:39] <CPrgmSwR2> intelikey: I am trying to figure that out
[05:39] <intelikey> have him issue mount
[05:39] <CPrgmSwR2> if he is in the mountpoint then /mnt/kubuntu should come up as no file found
[05:39] <intelikey> if mount outputs anyting besides errors he's not.
[05:39] <CPrgmSwR2> he has already mounted /dev/hda1 to /mnt/kubuntu
[05:39] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: I type cd /bin and there is bash file in there....do you need /mnt/kubuntu/bin/bash?
[05:40] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: do me a favor type in # mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/kubuntu on more time
[05:40] <intelikey> ...     that's not what i meant.
[05:41] <CPrgmSwR2> then what did you mean intelikey?
[05:41] <intelikey> mount
[05:41] <CPrgmSwR2> oh
[05:41] <intelikey> if it errors he's in the chroot
[05:41] <CPrgmSwR2> oops
[05:41] <intelikey> if not it will list the mounted fs's
[05:41] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: sorry just type in mount then
[05:41] <CPrgmSwR2> intelikey: good idea
[05:41] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: done
[05:42] <CPrgmSwR2> what did mount give you?
[05:42] <stdin> intelikey: it probably won't error, just print the wrong info
[05:43] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: couple of message of what is mounted...Are you looking for something specific?
[05:43] <intelikey> stdin not unless he bind'd proc   it will error with can't read mtab or proc
[05:43] <stdin> intelikey: it'll read mtab
[05:43] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: I am tring to get you instead your install so you can run dmesg
[05:43] <CPrgmSwR2> there is another way though
[05:43] <stdin> intelikey: I just tried it
[05:43] <intelikey> stdin did they stop cleaning mtab or halt/reboot ?
[05:44] <stdin> intelikey: seems that way, my /feisty/etc/mtab has the old mounts
[05:44] <intelikey> ah man...    that figures.
[05:44] <intelikey> ok i'll hush then.
[05:44] <stdin> heh
[05:45] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: what does cat /mnt/kubuntu/var/log/dmesg give you
[05:45] <stdin> in pastebin, as it may be quite large ^
[05:45] <CPrgmSwR2> ooops
[05:45] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: ok here what i have: unionfs on / type unionfs (rw),  proc on /proc type proc (rw), /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[05:45] <intelikey> that's the CD
[05:45] <CPrgmSwR2> okay
[05:46] <CPrgmSwR2> intelikey: the other problem is that /bin/bash could have been deleted by fsck
[05:46] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: ran that earlier today
[05:46] <intelikey> yes i see that.
[05:47] <intelikey> find /mnt/ -iname bash
[05:47] <intelikey> lets test the theory
[05:47] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: big file with bunch of error...
[05:47] <dwidmann> CPrgmSwR2: that would be an awfully choosey thing to delete. Whose luck is that bad?
[05:47] <CPrgmSwR2> okay
[05:47] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: can you paste the contents to Okapi: http://www.rafb.net/paste/
[05:47] <CPrgmSwR2> and then paste the link to this chat room
[05:48] <CPrgmSwR2> intelikey the interesting thing is that he found dmesg
[05:48] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: ok..give me a minute..
[05:48] <CPrgmSwR2> which says /bin/bash may very will be missing
[05:48] <intelikey> CPrgmSwR2 don't over look my favorite error.    "typo"
[05:48] <CPrgmSwR2> yeah thats true
[05:49] <CPrgmSwR2> but it still doesn't explain why chroot fails
[05:49] <intelikey> missing bash does.
[05:49] <CPrgmSwR2> yep
[05:50] <intelikey> CPrgmSwR2 well actually yes typo can explain chroot failure also
[05:50] <CPrgmSwR2> okay
[05:50] <stdin> you don't need to specify /bin/bash with chroot anyway
[05:50] <CPrgmSwR2> chroot /mnt/kubuntu still gave the error no /bin/bash
[05:51] <CPrgmSwR2> even though /bin/bash was not specified
[05:51] <intelikey> sduo chroot /mnt/something  /bin/bash   <<< fails
[05:51] <stdin> and ls /mnt/kubuntu/bin/bash shows it?
[05:51] <CPrgmSwR2> but it would say unknown command sduo
[05:51] <CPrgmSwR2> stdin: no
[05:52] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: ok..//rafb.net/p/CkXRyo97.html
[05:52] <intelikey> stdin not unless he typoed
[05:52] <CPrgmSwR2> ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ cat /mnt/kubuntu/var/log/dmesg
[05:52] <intelikey> stdin that's where it stands right now.   missing bash unless he's of key on something.
[05:52] <CPrgmSwR2> he typed it right
[05:53] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: is that all of dmesg
[05:53] <CPrgmSwR2> or did it get cut off
[05:53] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: yes
[05:55] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: I just want to double check this that /mnt/kubuntu/bin/bash turns up no file found?
[05:55] <CPrgmSwR2> you can type in # ls /mnt/kubuntu/bin/bash to confirm this
[05:55] <CPrgmSwR2> intelikey I think his entire /bin directory is gone
[05:55] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: ok..let me try it again..
[05:55] <intelikey> for Q in /mnt/*/lost+found/+ ;do file $Q | grep "LSB executable" ;done
[05:57] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: error, No such file or directory
[05:57] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: yeah type in # for Q in /mnt/*/lost+found/+ ;do file $Q | grep "LSB executable" ;done
[05:58] <dwidmann> BOOM!!!
[05:58] <Jucato> pong
[05:58] <TraX> intelikey: If you want an explosion do sudo rm -rf
[05:59] <CPrgmSwR2> TraX: if you want a explosion type in fsck -y
[05:59] <intelikey> TraX what would : > /dev/nvram   do?
[05:59] <dwidmann> TraX:  you forget the trailing forward slash
[05:59] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: done
[05:59] <hydrogen> no no no
[05:59] <hydrogen> if you want a real explosion
[05:59] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: did anything come up
[06:00] <dwidmann> If you want a real explosion, put your silverware in the microwave.
[06:00] <hydrogen> cat /dev/random > /dev/hza
[06:00] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: no, just a prompt..
[06:00] <CPrgmSwR2> thats a good sign
[06:00] <intelikey> i concure
[06:00] <CPrgmSwR2> I don't think the * works unless your in the parent directory
[06:00] <intelikey> sure it does
[06:01] <CPrgmSwR2> why does cd ~/pr*/ka* not work
[06:01] <CPrgmSwR2> but cd ~/programming/kapp4-0.1 work
[06:01] <intelikey> CPrgmSwR2 test ls /*bin/
[06:01] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: I think i miss something...LSB executable...
[06:01] <hydrogen> CPrgmSwR2: probably because multiple things match one or both of those?
[06:02] <politik> I'm trying to login to my box and I'm using gdm. However when I enter my user/pass, kde/gnome doesn't start, I just get the username prompt again. The password is correct, because if I type it wrong, I get an error. Any ideas?
[06:02] <intelikey> Okapi part of the output if your bash executable had been found.   what's what the test was looking for
[06:04] <intelikey> politik several.   but the best way to test is drop to a console and run "startx" to see what is failing
[06:04] <intelikey> then bring me the   EE  message
[06:04] <Okapi> intellikey: i am just following what CPrgmSwR2 asking me to do..
[06:05] <intelikey> Okapi yes i know.  jsut answering your Q about the string i gave him to give you.
[06:05] <CPrgmSwR2> intelikey: I tired typing in cd pr*ka* and it said no such file or diretory
[06:05] <politik> intelikey: actually I simplified my explanation a little. I am remotely logging into this box, by running an X server on another machine
[06:05] <CPrgmSwR2> intelikey type this ls /bi*/ba*
[06:05] <politik> I can login to the box just fine, locally
[06:05] <Okapi> intellikey: oh..okay..
[06:05] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]  ls  /bi*/ba*
[06:05] <politik> but I don't see how that makes a difference
[06:06] <intelikey>  /bin/bash
[06:06] <Okapi> intellikey: do you think I miss type it?
[06:06] <intelikey> politik oh.   then disreguard what i said.
[06:06] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: when you type in #ls /mnt/kubuntu
[06:06] <CPrgmSwR2> do you get a bunch of files listed? and is ther one that says bin?
[06:07] <intelikey> Okapi only you can see if it's typed correctly or not...   not i.
[06:07] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: I do not have the regular prompt anymore...
[06:08] <intelikey> ^X
[06:08] <intelikey> ^C
[06:08] <intelikey> i mean
[06:08] <CPrgmSwR2> yeah control+c
[06:08] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: ok
[06:08] <politik> why the * should remote logins be difficult... it should act just like a local login
[06:08] <intelikey> that's  [ctrl] +[C] 
[06:08] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: yes
[06:09] <intelikey> politik cause remote login is disabled ?   in the /etc/gdm/gdm.comf file maybe ?
[06:09] <CPrgmSwR2> yes to both?
[06:09] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: yes
[06:09] <CPrgmSwR2> okay thats better
[06:10] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: let me open my Jack daniels botle...:)
[06:10] <CPrgmSwR2> okay
[06:10] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: i am back
[06:11] <CPrgmSwR2> k
[06:11] <CPrgmSwR2> I was going to have you re-install the kernel, but I can't without you being able to preform a chroot
[06:12] <Okapi> chroot
[06:12] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: it appears your /bin/bash file is missing
[06:12] <intelikey> chroot
[06:12] <stdin> CPrgmSwR2: have you determined if /bin/sh is there ?
[06:12] <CPrgmSwR2> no
[06:13] <stdin> CPrgmSwR2: you can use sh as the shell, instead of basj
[06:13] <stdin> bash *
[06:13] <intelikey> better -l that   cause the link will probably exist and point to bash
[06:13] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: if I type ls /bin...I can see bash
[06:13] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: thats because it pulls it from the livecd
[06:13] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: see there is two /bin directories
[06:13] <CPrgmSwR2> one at /
[06:13] <CPrgmSwR2> and the other at /mnt/kubuntu/bin
[06:14] <CPrgmSwR2> when you type in /mnt/kubuntu, that is pulling from the hard drive not from the livecd
[06:14] <intelikey> six but who's counting
[06:15] <CPrgmSwR2> And you need to have a /bin/bash on your hard drive
[06:15] <intelikey>  /bin /usr/bin /usr/local/bin /mnt/kubuntu/bin /mnt/kubuntu/usr/bin /mnt/kubuntu/usr/local/bin     six.   heh.
[06:15] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: i type cd /mnt/kubuntu/bin and ls /bin and I still have the bash
[06:15] <intelikey> ooops sorry   ;)
[06:16] <stdin> intelikey: well, I have ~/bin too :p
[06:16] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi type in cd /mnt/kubuntu
[06:16] <CPrgmSwR2> and then type ls bin
[06:16] <intelikey> Okapi that's cause you are still looking in the same /bin dir
[06:16] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: when you put a / before the path it starts from the top
[06:16] <intelikey> stdin me too.  but that's non-default  and i kinda suspect a default dir struct
[06:17] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: ok..So do you have anything else in your mind...how to install the kernel?
[06:18] <CPrgmSwR2> LOL
[06:18] <CPrgmSwR2> intelikey: you know I never thought about that
[06:18] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: please do not be offended...
[06:18] <intelikey> and pie are not square, corn bread are square, pie are round!
[06:18] <CPrgmSwR2> intelikey don't roots point downwars as they spread out
[06:19] <CPrgmSwR2> so the top of a root would be the smallest point
[06:19] <daSkreech> Everything springs from the root
[06:19] <CPrgmSwR2> as the top of the directory is the smalllest point
[06:19] <daSkreech> intelikey: does that help?
[06:19] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: I am kinda not sure what to do at this point
[06:19] <CPrgmSwR2> I have never encountered an issue with /bin/bash not being there
[06:19] <intelikey> daSkreech but the roots are still not on top unless the tree is upside down
[06:19] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: wow..
[06:20] <daSkreech> intelikey: some orchids have the roots at the top
[06:20] <daSkreech> and they are pretty and valualbe
[06:20] <daSkreech> just like linux :)
[06:20] <daSkreech> picky too
[06:20] <intelikey> lol
[06:20] <CPrgmSwR2> lol
[06:20] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: ok..tel me what is the command to install the kernel?
[06:21] <CPrgmSwR2> sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[06:21] <CPrgmSwR2> sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[06:21] <i0nC4nn0n|home> hello
[06:21] <intelikey> CPrgmSwR2 maybe     sudo cp /bin/bash /mnt/kubuntu/bin ;sudo chroot /mnt/kubuntu/
[06:21] <CPrgmSwR2> hmmm
[06:21] <CPrgmSwR2> that could work
[06:21] <i0nC4nn0n|home> forgive my bad english / stupidity... how do i get amarok to play mp3s?
[06:22] <CPrgmSwR2> # sudo cp /bin/bash /mnt/kubuntu/bin
[06:22] <intelikey> !mp3
[06:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:22] <CPrgmSwR2> # sudo chroot /mnt/kubuntu
[06:22] <stdin> i0nC4nn0n|home: install the "libxine-extracodecs" package
[06:22] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: you there
[06:23] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: yes  and done
[06:23] <CPrgmSwR2> both commands?
[06:23] <i0nC4nn0n|home> thx stdin
[06:23] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: no..let go for the chroot
[06:23] <politik> intelikey: something is strange because gdm.conf shows Enabled=false in the [xdmcp]  section, but I know that xdmcp is on
[06:23] <CPrgmSwR2> okay
[06:24] <intelikey> politik there is another file in the same dir.  that the gui app writes the configs to    i dont recall off the top of my head the name    gdm.conf-user   or something.
[06:25] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: error: chroot: cannot run command '/bin/bash': Not a directory.
[06:25] <intelikey> politik have a look in it. it over rides those settings..
[06:25] <stdin> Okapi: make sure you put in "sudo chroot /mnt/kubuntu"
[06:26] <CPrgmSwR2> did you type exactly # sudo chroot /mnt/kubuntu
[06:26] <politik> intelikey: I see, nice. xdmcp is enabled there
[06:26] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: error: chroot: cannot run command '/bin/bash': Not a directory.
[06:26] <politik> so now I have no idea whats wrong
[06:27] <intelikey> politik that's about the end of my knowledge on that subject     hope you don't require more...
[06:27] <CPrgmSwR2> type in # find /f
[06:27] <intelikey> ???
[06:27] <politik> I can see the gdm screen, and I can enter user/pass, the problem is just that gnome doesn't start after I enter the pass
[06:27] <efface> i downloaded a theme for kde and when i try to use it it doesnt do anything
[06:27] <efface> most my themes dont do anything
[06:27] <intelikey> CPrgmSwR2  find /f  ???
[06:28] <CPrgmSwR2> nevermind that
[06:28] <miles> hi
[06:28] <CPrgmSwR2> intelikey: I was looking at a website
[06:28] <politik> what determines what happens after I type in my pass in gdm?
[06:29] <ryansheckler> hey guys its me ryan
[06:29] <CPrgmSwR2> I don't get it
[06:29] <intelikey> pam is called to auth you and several scripts are ran politik    but i'll have to defer to more sava' people
[06:29] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: what does #ls /mnt/kubuntu/bin/bash give you?
[06:30] <albertmk> I need help to install my NVidia in my Kubuntu
[06:30] <ryansheckler> albertmk - dont use the driver from the ubuntu repos
[06:30] <albertmk> why not?
[06:30] <politik> so I guess pam is successful, because my password isn't rejected
[06:30] <albertmk> so how can I do that without apt-get...
[06:30] <efface> can someone please tell me why my kde themes wont load?
[06:30] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: error: NOt a directory
[06:31] <intelikey> politik that would be a good assumption  yes
[06:31] <CPrgmSwR2> ls doesn't produce that type of error
[06:31] <ryansheckler> albertmk - sorry i was watching TV
[06:31] <ryansheckler> albertmk - first,  i have heard stories about the driver in the repos causing trouble
[06:32] <CPrgmSwR2> can you double check #ls /mnt/kubuntu/bin/bash
[06:32] <ryansheckler> albertmk - you can go to nvidias site and download the linux driver from there
[06:32] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: error: NOt a directory
[06:33] <CPrgmSwR2> something is really wrong because ls should not be giving you that error
[06:34] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: I have the same error when I try to access to bash on my SUSE pc...
[06:34] <stdin> Okapi: you aren't doing "ls /mnt/kubuntu/bin/bash/" are you?
[06:34] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: not on my sue pc...
[06:35] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: i just type cd /bin/bash
[06:35] <CPrgmSwR2> ls: /mnt/kubuntu/bin/bash: No such file or directory
[06:35] <CPrgmSwR2> this is the error I get
[06:35] <intelikey> ...
[06:35] <albertmk> bad bad ...
[06:35] <CPrgmSwR2> I have to go
[06:35] <intelikey> cd /bin/bash <<<<  of course /bin/bash is not a dir,  it's a shell
[06:36] <CPrgmSwR2> cd != ls
[06:36] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: oh no...
[06:36] <intelikey> true dat
[06:36] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: don't go
[06:36] <CPrgmSwR2> I have to
[06:37] <Okapi> CPrgmSwR2: ok...thank you anyway
[06:37] <CPrgmSwR2> Okapi: my advice- re-install kubuntu
[06:37] <CPrgmSwR2> your welcome
[06:37] <intelikey> MEDIC!
[06:40] <gajolo> does anybody know how to acess different windowns created partitions from ubuntu?
[06:40] <intelikey> !ntfs
[06:40] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:40] <gajolo> yes
[06:41] <intelikey> most of us do   yes
[06:41] <gajolo> windows crashed for me and i have to get some info off before i wipe it
[06:41] <intelikey> the link should walk you right through it
[06:42] <loaded> does anybody know how to configure Beryl from kubuntu?
[06:42] <intelikey> !i
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <stdin> loaded: you use beryl-manager
[06:45] <gajolo> thanks,  it worked perfectly
[06:45] <intelikey> good on ya mate
[06:46] <intelikey> why does it take so long to mount an nfs share ?
[06:47] <ch40s> how do i exit xserver to install nvidia drivers?
[06:47] <jasonhohrein> Anyone know how to change Kubuntu to double click files/folders on the desktop instead of single clicking?
[06:47] <loaded> I use beryl - manager but when i select a windows manager (Beryl) the system try to change but nothing...
[06:47] <intelikey> sudo /etc/init.d/*dm stop            ch40s
[06:47] <Daisuke-Ido> intelikey: i wish i knew, but i made the mistake of trying to mount a 500gb nfs share...  i quickly narrowed what i was mounting before trying again :\
[06:47] <ch40s> thank you
[06:48] <kkathman> ch40s  ctrl-alt f1,  then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[06:48] <ch40s> ty
[06:48] <kkathman> then make sure you have all the build stuff, and always choose to compile the nVidia interface
[06:49] <intelikey> it will work from within kde as well
[06:49] <ch40s> can i apt-get the build deps?
[06:49] <intelikey> jasonhohrein in kcontrol somewhere
[06:49] <ch40s> i tried envy and got all the deps for that
[06:49] <ch40s> and it didnt run
[06:49] <Daisuke-Ido> !envy
[06:49] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[06:50] <Daisuke-Ido> goodnight.
[06:50] <stdin> jasonhohrein: System Settings > Keyboard & Mouse > Mouse
[06:50] <jasonhohrein> Thanks! I'll try those!
[06:50] <ch40s> i used it on my ubuntu with no problems, i'll remember that though =] 
[06:50] <ch40s> Daisuke-Ido:
[06:51] <jasonhohrein> System Settings > Keyboard & Mouse > Mouse worked! Thanks again!
[06:51] <intelikey> i have also heard horror stories from "restricted-manager" in kde...
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[06:52] <stdin> intelikey: there will be a real KDE restricted manager in 7.10
[06:52] <ch40s> k
[06:52] <intelikey> good i think maybe it needs it...   BUT
[06:52] <intelikey> i still wish my nvidia card was supported
[06:52] <gajolo> also, is there any way of restoring a norton ghost image through ubuntu without the boot disk
[06:52] <gajolo> would norton ghost work on wine?
[06:52] <stdin> I doubt it
[06:53] <intelikey> eeeek   disk utilities in wine      !!!
[06:53] <gajolo> i cant think of a way, without finding a boot disk
[06:53] <intelikey> imo that's begging for trubble
[06:54] <intelikey> NickPresta is back.
[06:54] <intelikey> get him....
[06:54] <NickPresta> hi intelikey :)
[06:54] <intelikey> :)
[06:55] <gajolo> would it work on wine?
[06:55] <gajolo> ihave to have xp working for work
[06:56] <intelikey> gajolo you can try it.  but i'm like stdin i doubt that it will    and as i expressed already, if it does seem to work it may still crash half way through and hose the entire hd
[06:56] <Okapi> when you install kubuntu, there is no option to repaire ?
[06:56] <gajolo> hmm
[06:57] <intelikey> Okapi not on the live CD    i can't say about the alternate install disk
[06:57] <daSkreech> Okapi: repair what?
[06:57] <intelikey> i don't remember one
[06:57] <gajolo> any open source program designed for ghost images?
[06:57] <intelikey> daSkreech Y his installation of course
[06:57] <Okapi> daSkreech: repair the actual installation..
[06:58] <Okapi> daSkreech: on that casre it will just fix the missing file on the system instead to re-install all...
[06:58] <Okapi> case
[06:59] <stdin> IIRC, you can choose to reinstall without formatting the partitions, it's possible that could maybe work
[06:59] <intelikey> Okapi the reason there isn't,  is because you are thinking to rigidly.  linux can be so vastly different from one install to another on the same hardware, that "repairing" and installation would be much harder than reloading.
[06:59] <kubuntu__> need a little help. i installed kbfx 0.4.9.3.1.deb from sourceforge. my prblem is the apps won't appear in the menu
[07:00] <Okapi> intelikey: i am not rigide, i am desperate....
[07:01] <intelikey> kubuntu__ you "might" want to install menu  ?
[07:01] <Biovore> I guess SHA-1 it out as a usable encryption scheme..
[07:01] <Biovore> well anything under 64 chars
[07:01] <intelikey> Okapi didn't say you were rigid,  said your thinking was of a rigid system   which linux is not.
[07:02] <kubuntu__> intelikey: i'm sorry. i don't think i follow
[07:02] <intelikey> !info menu | kubuntu__
[07:02] <ubotu> kubuntu__: menu: generates programs menu for all menu-aware applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.32 (feisty), package size 397 kB, installed size 1700 kB
[07:02] <Okapi> intelikey: one or another....I just want my system to comeback. So I am trying to find a solution
[07:03] <kubuntu__> hmm.. my previous kbfx worked fine... its this new version that im having problems
[07:03] <intelikey> Okapi still have the fs mounted ?
[07:04] <sfire> anyone here running the 64bit version of kubuntu?
[07:05] <Okapi> intelikey: what do you mean?
[07:05] <intelikey> ah it's just a question.
[07:05] <Okapi> intelikey: I still have everything mounted
[07:06] <intelikey> Okapi ok run   ls /mnt/*    and pastebin the output  i'll have a look.
[07:06] <Okapi> intelikey: relax...I know you want help.
[07:06] <intelikey> i want help ?
[07:06] <stdin> s/want/need/ :p
[07:07] <intelikey> ok...
[07:07] <intelikey> :)
[07:07] <tazgodx> what packages do i install for divx, and xvid support?
[07:07] <Okapi> intelikey: kubuntu
[07:07] <Okapi> intelikey: what is the latest kernel revision?
[07:07] <intelikey> pastebin me;       ls /mnt/kubuntu
[07:08] <intelikey> 2.6.24 i think.   not sure   you can look on  http://kernel.org tho
[07:08] <stdin> tazgodx: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:08] <stdin> !away > word
[07:09] <bbeck_> Okapi: 2.6.22.6
[07:10] <Okapi> intelikey: //rafb.net/p/EmFmVQ70.html
[07:10] <intelikey> as long as it doesn't kick...
[07:10] <intelikey> :)
[07:11] <Okapi> intelikey: do you think I can just install the newer version with apt-get install?
[07:11] <stdin> how'd you decipher my cryptic plans? :p
[07:11] <intelikey> okapi pastebin me;       ls /mnt/kubuntu/bin
[07:11] <intelikey> stdin i can read you like a book   :)
[07:11] <Okapi> intelikey: I think I had the 2.6.20...
[07:12] <kubuntu__> intelikey: i reinstalled the old version ( kbfx 0.4.9.2) and it's fine. could it be the 4.9.3 deb?
[07:12] <Okapi> intelikey: //rafb.net/p/EmFmVQ70.html
[07:12] <Okapi> intelikey: this is the link //rafb.net/p/EmFmVQ70.html
[07:12] <intelikey> kubuntu__ yes it could
[07:13] <intelikey> Okapi no it's not.  i've seen that one.
[07:13] <intelikey> okapi pastebin me;       ls /mnt/kubuntu/bin
[07:13] <kubuntu__> has anyone here successfully installed kbfx 0.4.9.3.1? could use your help. thanks
[07:14] <clemsye> lu
[07:14] <intelikey> ke
[07:14] <clemsye> il  y a des  francis?
[07:14] <stdin> !fr
[07:14] <clemsye> fracais*
[07:14] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:14] <intelikey> quick draw!
[07:15] <politik> damn I can't figure this out!
[07:15] <clemsye> ok
[07:15] <Okapi> intelikey: it just give me /mnt/kubuntu/bin
[07:15] <clemsye> @+
[07:15] <Okapi> intelikey: nothing else
[07:15] <intelikey> Okapi ok add   -l
[07:15] <intelikey> Okapi that's lower case L
[07:17] <Okapi> intelikey: lrwxrwxrwx l root root 25 2007-07-30 15:29 /mnt/kubuntu/bin -> libscim-kdeutils.so.0.1.0
[07:17] <Okapi> intelikey: nothing else
[07:17] <intelikey> l   it's a link
[07:18] <intelikey> you want to tell the story now of how you did this ?
[07:18] <Okapi> intelikey: what you mean?
[07:18] <intelikey> what did you do when you broke that pinguin ?
[07:19] <kymoie> is there any way of playing Adobe Shockwave player animations in firefox (Kubuntu)
[07:19] <stdin> kymoie: flash yes, shockwave no
[07:19] <nicolai_> kymoie: install Flash?
[07:19] <kymoie> pretty sure its installed
[07:19] <stdin> kymoie: unless you install firefox in wine and then shockwave in that
[07:19] <intelikey> were you issuing command  like     sudo ln -s blah/blah blah   ?     were you upgrading the system?   what did you do when that happened ?
[07:20] <intelikey> @ Okapi
[07:20] <Okapi> intelikey: poor pinguin...I just reboot my PC the I get Kernel Panic. Since this morning I am trying to fix it. I had to run fsck once but nothing good.
[07:20] <kymoie> stdin: I'm not that desperate, but thanks anyway
[07:20] <intelikey> no.  a reboot didn't do that.
[07:20] <intelikey> Okapi that's maybe when you new it was hosed   but that's not what did it.
[07:21] <intelikey> stdin did you see what Okapi did ?
[07:21] <Okapi> intelikey: I like that pinguin!!! So nothing to hurt him...please that all I did
[07:22] <stdin> intelikey: nope
 intelikey: lrwxrwxrwx l root root 25 2007-07-30 15:29 /mnt/kubuntu/bin -> libscim-kdeutils.so.0.1.0
[07:22] <intelikey> stdin    ^   :)
[07:22] <stdin> that's all that's in (the real) /bin ?
[07:23] <intelikey> stdin that is the real bin
[07:23] <intelikey> nothing in it.  it's a link
[07:23] <stdin> wtf...
[07:23] <stdin> I see now
[07:23] <intelikey> yeah
[07:23] <intelikey> :)
[07:23] <Okapi> intelikey: is that mean I do not have chance to recovery it?
[07:23] <intelikey> Okapi yep.
[07:24] <Okapi> intelikey: ok, thank you
[07:24] <intelikey> Okapi and i'll go out on a limb and say that your messing with   libscim-kdeutils   did it...
[07:25] <intelikey> Okapi one more Q   what version was that install ?    gutsy ?
[07:25] <Okapi> intelikey: thank you for your help. I will try my way.
[07:25] <Okapi> intelikey: Feisty
[07:25] <intelikey> Okapi ok.     ya know if you want to try it.  you could do this.
[07:26] <intelikey> sudo rm /mnt/kubuntu/bin ;cp -a /bin /mnt/kubuntu
[07:26] <intelikey> it can't cost you anything really and might work.
[07:27] <intelikey> i kinda wonder what else may be hosed tho
[07:27] <stdin> sudo cp -ar /bin /mnt/kubuntu
[07:27] <Okapi> intelikey: nevermind. Thank you anyway
[07:27] <intelikey> err need sudo on the second part too.
[07:28] <intelikey> stdin -a includes -r    no?
[07:28] <sfire> 64bit kubuntu doesn't offer wine?
[07:28] <stdin> intelikey: hmm, so it does :p
[07:29] <intelikey>        -a, --archive
[07:29] <intelikey>               same as -dpR
[07:29] <stdin> sfire: there is a package on the wine website, http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[07:30] <intelikey> Okapi heh  i don't know what you mean by "I will try my way."    but if you mean installing a kernel on that busted installation  forget that, you are wasting your time.
[07:34] <shayne> Hi
[07:34] <shayne> i am looking for a place to find some information about Hacking XP Client!
[07:34] <intelikey> Okapi and you are welcome.    hate that it is all messed up there.   but really if you are not going to try copying the bin dir from the live CD   just reinstall man.  cut your losses
[07:35] <stdin> shayne: don't look here then
[07:35] <intelikey> shayne i don't think you want to ask that in here,  or on irc for that matter.
[07:35] <stdin> not when we can see your IP address >;)
[07:35] <shayne> yes, that is right!
[07:36] <shayne> but where is sould go?
[07:36] <stdin> google I guess
[07:36] <intelikey> shayne you can check in ##windows though if you want
[07:36] <shayne> OK, tnx too mach
[07:36] <intelikey> !warez
[07:36] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[07:37] <DrOnline> shayne: be warned, you may end up sifting through quite alot of bile to find what you're looking for.
[07:37] <Aranel> hey, can someone help me for deb packaging ?
[07:37] <stdin> !packaging
[07:37] <ubotu> The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[07:38] <Aranel> stdin: thanks :)
[07:39] <sfire> are there any limitations to what 64bit can do these days?
[07:39] <intelikey> ATTENTION U BU NAUTS !  get all your warez at 127.0.0.1
[07:39] <sfire> I have 4 GB of ram in my new machine and only 3 is available using 32bit
[07:40] <intelikey> sfire kernel
[07:40] <sfire> well I'm running off the 64bit DVD currently
[07:40] <stdin> see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-ff0a19a9ff23537e36b3cf9d40b2d8747bd45cd4
[07:41] <intelikey> sfire the kernel can be compiled with 2g or upto <unreasonable>g    and i would assume that the generic kernel there is limited
[07:42] <intelikey> http://tinyurl.com/hmw8u
[07:43] <intelikey> stdin i don't like url's that take two lines...
[07:43] <stdin> intelikey: then http://tinyurl.com/23ewcf
[07:44] <sfire> so do the w32codecs work in the 64bit version yet?
[07:44] <stdin> no, there is a w64codecs package I think tho
[07:44] <intelikey> seeing that they are w32 i have my doubts
[07:45] <intelikey> yeah w64 should
[07:45] <sfire> grrr.. I hate these kinda times in software
[07:45] <sfire> well.. hardware
[07:45] <intelikey> then why buy new hardware ?
[07:46] <sfire> wanted more speed
[07:46] <intelikey> well never mind.  not every one is comfortable on a p1 now days
[07:47] <sfire> I didn't think MMX started until the 233
[07:47] <sfire> in fact I am pretty sure of it (I think)
[07:47] <intelikey> operative word "think"
[07:48] <intelikey> kinda hard to argue with the hardware at hand.
[07:48] <sfire> hehehehe
[07:49] <sfire> oohhh what crap
[07:49] <sfire> do I reboot and live in a 32 bit world for a while more or try 64bit
[07:49] <jussi01> !gnash
[07:49] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[07:50] <intelikey> sfire 32bit if you like comfort,  64 if you like challange
[07:50] <intelikey> pick your take and take your pick
[07:51] <sfire> that 4 gigs of ram looks nice but I don't think its worth it :(
[07:51] <sfire> sadly
[07:51] <sfire> I should have just bought 3 gig insted of 4
[07:51] <intelikey> you can use 4g in 32bit  just rebuild the kernel
[07:51] <sfire> intelikey: really?
[07:51] <intelikey> yes really....   although i can't see needing that much.
[07:51] <sfire> any good instructions for doing that?
[07:52] <intelikey> kernel docs
[07:52] <intelikey> http://kernel.org maybe
[07:53] <intelikey> i forget if it's big ram or high ram...   seems like big but that sounds odd.
[07:53] <intelikey> i haven't built a kernel in several months now.
[07:53] <sfire> the extra ram makes a huge difference :)
[07:54] <makuseru> hi, im having a problem with VLC, when i play an mkv or ogm that has subtitles if they are too long to fit on one line they overlap and go off the screen instead of going down to another line, how can i fix this?
[07:54] <intelikey> and i'm old enough to forget if i want to, and nobody can stop me.
[07:54] <intelikey> sfire for what ?
[07:54] <stdin> intelikey: compiling a kernel probably :p
[07:54] <Biovore> makuseru: I use mplayer..  Works just fine..
[07:54] <sfire> cached mostly ... lol
[07:54] <intelikey> pfft
[07:54] <makuseru> Biovore: ok, well i use VLC
[07:55] <jussi01> Hmmm, can someone reccomend to me some good, basic open source crm sofware?
[07:55] <Biovore> makuseru: I theory it shouldn't do that..  mught be sub-font size issue or something..
[07:55] <Biovore> crm?
[07:55] <makuseru> Biovore: well if i make it small enough to fit on one line i cant read it
[07:55] <jussi01> customer resource management
[07:57] <intelikey> sfire heh  i don't think i need more ram here...  Memory Used/Total Percent: 10/242 MB (4%)   :)
[07:58] <jussi01> lol
[07:58] <Biovore> jussi01: those are usually custom jobs...  Google around.. there might be some stuff out there.. but probably won't fit what you want exactly..
[07:58] <jussi01> !info facturalux
[07:58] <ubotu> facturalux: ERP/CRM software for GNU/Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-12 (feisty), package size 792 kB, installed size 2932 kB
[07:59] <jussi01> wow, that was descriptive...
[07:59] <sfire> intelikey: :o
[07:59] <sfire> intelikey: my old system would be a HUGE upgrade for you :o
[08:00] <intelikey> if it aint broke don't let stdin fix it....
[08:00] <jussi01> intelikey: you should run sugar... :P
[08:00] <Okapi> intelikey: fixe....
[08:00] <intelikey> err i mean don't fix it...
[08:01] <intelikey> jussi01 sugar ?   i run linux.
[08:01] <stdin> jussi01: intelikey loves his text console too much to sully it with some GUI
[08:01] <jussi01> lol
[08:01] <sfire> intelikey: you don't use KDE?
[08:01] <intelikey> sfire haven't i quite some time now   no
[08:02] <sfire> well I'm running back to my 32bit world.. be back in a sec
[08:02] <intelikey> although i have ran kubuntu / kde on the p1 while it only had 64m ram   (with no swap)
[08:03] <intelikey> jussi01 cause i'm either very lonely or i just like the people here    i'll let you decide which
[08:04] <intelikey> lol
[08:04] <intelikey> no
[08:05] <intelikey> actually i try to help in here some....   believe that or not...    it's kinda a "give back to the community" thing i guess.
[08:05] <jussi01> intelikey: I understand completely :)
[08:05] <intelikey> i really don't know why i waste my time in here....
[08:06] <kkathman> nice :)
[08:06] <intelikey> :)
[08:06] <jussi01> lol
[08:07] <thomax> hi
[08:07] <intelikey> you guys are a mess.     lol
[08:07] <intelikey> stdin i've thuroghly corrupted this channel.
[08:07] <thomax> anyony got n idea where I can configure that when I press my power button on my pc it automatically hybernates
[08:08] <NightBird> yes
[08:08] <intelikey> thomax what version ?
[08:09] <intelikey> in older versions (sysV) you could do that in inittab  i think
[08:09] <intelikey> but upstart has no inittab    i think
[08:09] <thomax> 7.04
[08:09] <stdin> intelikey: upstart has not inittab by default, tho it will read it if it's there
[08:09] <intelikey> yeah that's upstart...   hmmm
[08:10] <thomax> so?
[08:10] <intelikey> so i think the powerfail sig will allow that in inittab   iirc
[08:11] <intelikey> but NightBird may have a better place to config that
[08:11] <thomax> but how do i practically do it
[08:11] <NightBird> I forget where it is
[08:11] <thomax> lol
[08:11] <jussi01> can you not do that in the session manager?
[08:11] <thomax> kdm?
[08:12] <NightBird> I remember I had to mess with some stuff that would have supported what you're looking for when I was messing around with the laptop event things...
[08:12] <thomax> aight
[08:12] <NightBird> so it would sleep when I close the monitor, and that stuff.... it wasn't working right before
[08:12] <thomax> I'll do some more google
[08:12] <makuseru> hi, im having a problem with VLC, when i play an mkv or ogm that has subtitles if they are too long to fit on one line they overlap and go off the screen instead of going down to another line, how can i fix this?
[08:14] <ch40s> where do i get all the codecs for amarok?
[08:14] <NightBird> makuseru: that's pretty much a known issue with vlc
[08:15] <makuseru> NightBird: well whats a fix for it then? it use to not do this, but as of lately it is
[08:15] <NightBird> makuseru: regress to a previous version?
[08:15] <NightBird> as of right now anyways
[08:15] <makuseru> NightBird: i havent upgraded
[08:16] <ch40s> where do i get all the codecs for amarok?
[08:16] <intelikey> !codecs
[08:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:17] <ch40s> ty
[08:17] <intelikey> on dat page.   yw
[08:17] <Okapi> intelikey: fixe....ver
[08:17] <Okapi> sorry
[08:17] <intelikey> ?
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[08:18] <NightBird> makuseru: from what I know, vlc doesn't fully support a lot of subbing features, and a lot of fansubbers are starting to use some of those features which ends up causing VLC rendering to be off
[08:19] <makuseru> NightBird: can you recommend another program that will do a better job?
[08:20] <intelikey> mplayer
[08:20] <makuseru> i dont like mplayer
[08:20] <NightBird> makuseru: I can't, as I haven't tried in linux... having said that, I would look at the normal video plays available
[08:20] <ch40s> VLC > *
[08:20] <intelikey> !player
[08:20] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:20] <intelikey> !players
[08:20] <intelikey> ooops
[08:21] <NightBird> ch40s: VLC is quite nice, but the problem is that it doesn't fully support certain features that have started to become popular....
[08:21] <intelikey> but i still like it.
[08:22] <stdin> vlc is the illegitimate offspring of mplayers and gnome
[08:22] <stdin> just a thought
[08:22] <intelikey> i probably could use kaffeine or something in the console   but vlc is all i have used there.
[08:23] <intelikey> watching movies in one console while irc'ing in another...  heh
[08:23] <intelikey> not atm tho
[08:24] <NightBird> then I could at least lay down on my futon.... of course, I should just go to bed instead...
[08:24] <NightBird> jussi01: I do that sometimes... well ok, more then sometimes...
[08:24] <intelikey> [ bb -o !bb ] 
[08:25] <NightBird> luckly they don't mind so long as I get all of my work done on time
[08:25] <jussi01> NightBird: same here
[08:26] <NightBird> yeay... I don't have to go to work tomorrow
[08:26] <ch40s> stdin: anything wrong with illegitimate offspring?
[08:26] <ch40s> =] 
[08:26] <stdin> ch40s: only when it'd GTK based
[08:26] <ch40s> lawl
[08:26] <intelikey> stdin it is not.   you said something like   [[ 2b -o ! 2b ] ] 
[08:27] <ch40s> anyone get .rm working with anything?
[08:27] <stdin> intelikey: it's "similar" enough :p
[08:27] <jussi01> !rm | ch40s
[08:27] <ubotu> ch40s: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[08:27] <jussi01> lol
[08:27] <jussi01> oops
[08:27] <jussi01> ch40s: yes, real media works with several apps
[08:28] <intelikey> stdin next thing i know you'll be trying to paten !=
[08:28] <jussi01> !real
[08:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:28] <daSkreech> NightBird: that's a sequence you have to patent it
[08:28] <ch40s> i could only get it workin with a mozilla plugin
[08:28] <ch40s> ty
[08:28] <jussi01> ch40s: you can also grabthe proprietry real player client
[08:29] <stdin> now you all owe me money :p
[08:29] <jussi01> but dont... use the codec from the repos
[08:29] <ch40s> didnt know they made one for lin
[08:29] <intelikey> :)
[08:29] <ch40s> k
[08:29] <intelikey> so sue me
[08:29] <jussi01> stdin: you cant, I already own the patent
[08:30] <stdin> jussi01: I'm like SCO, I say I own the patent even though I don't
[08:30] <intelikey> lol
[08:30] <jussi01> lol
[08:31] <intelikey> imo intelectual patents are evil
[08:33] <stdin> the 3rd paragraph here is wrong: http://www.sco.com/company/profile.html
[08:33] <intelikey> E: NightBird/brain not a known format
[08:33] <jussi01> lol
[08:35] <intelikey> stdin how many parts of paragraph 3 ?????
[08:35] <stdin> the whole thing
[08:36] <intelikey> stdin i think i found one part that is ok  "and"
[08:36] <stdin> intelikey: the only fact there is "UNIX operating system source code originally developed by AT&T/Bell Labs" other than that it's all just wrong :)
[08:38] <intelikey> but if you start removing the trash and you get down to the word "and"  the that's not wrong...   it's just what is on both sides of it that is false
[08:38] <navets> is there a way to get google to reset your adsense account if you get banned?
[08:39] <stdin> you should ask google about that
[08:39] <intelikey> "adsense account" ?
[08:39] <navets> I tried to appeal with google but they denied it.
[08:40] <navets> Damn family, should have never told them i make money from clicks
[08:40] <navets> they were clicking my ads and i didnt know lol
[08:40] <navets> now im stuck adless
[08:41] <intelikey> well now aint that a sad storry
[08:41] <navets> it is
[08:41] <navets> sad enough to make me commit E-murder
[08:42] <hayami> hi i need help i installed kubuntu in an hp dv2135la but i don't have any sound
[08:42] <hayami> what i should do?
[08:42] <jussi01> !sound | hayami
[08:42] <ubotu> hayami: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:43] <SlimG2> what's the name of the kubuntu dev. channel?
[08:43] <intelikey> #ubuntu+1
[08:44] <intelikey> don't think there is a kde specific one
[08:44] <stdin> you mean #kubuntu-devel ?
[08:44] <jussi01> hmmm, not #kubuntu-devel ?
[08:44] <jussi01> lol
[08:44] <jussi01> beat ya :P
[08:44] <stdin> not according to my client
[08:44] <SlimG2> thanks stdin & jussi01
[08:45] <jussi01> SlimG2: be really polite in there
[08:45] <intelikey>  oh ... that's not gutsy tho is it ?
[08:45] <jussi01> intelikey: its all of them isnt it? same as #ubuntu-devel ?
[08:46] <stdin> but, he didn't say gutsy...
[08:47] <stdin> jussi01: see http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/3526/image10jk5.png :p
[08:47] <SlimG2> jussi01: polite is my fist and middle name
[08:48] <SlimG2> s/fist/first/ ;)
[08:48] <intelikey> stdin i know he didn't.    and you are correct   just asking  that isn't the +1 channel is it ?
[08:49] <stdin> intelikey: well it's the devel channel and they do allow kubuntu/kde specific questions in there. but the gutsy channel is +1 yeah
[08:50] <intelikey> k    i was thinking that +1 was  #ubuntu+1    although i was assuming he wanted +1   and that was a bad assumption.
[08:50] <intelikey> so i'm wrong even when i'm right...     so sue me
[08:51] <intelikey> :)
[08:51] <stdin> I won't sew you, just sentence you to only using X for 2 weeks
[08:51] <intelikey> no actually don't,  i've been in coart,  don't like it.
[08:51] <intelikey> NO!  not X    jsut put me in jail
[08:52] <stdin> muhahahaha :)
[08:52] <intelikey> i can't find my way around in the pointy clicky thingy...
[08:53] <jussi01> !nixternal | intelikey
[08:53] <ubotu> intelikey: Oh no!  The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived!  He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too!
[08:53] <jussi01> sorry, just reminded me...
[08:54] <intelikey> :)
[08:54] <stdin> jussi01: call it fate or call it justice, but there is no image on that page :p
[08:54] <jussi01> stdin: ??
[08:55] <jussi01> what is ther?
[08:55] <intelikey> some how i find it hard to believe that seveas would leave that infonode in ubotu's  database....
[08:55] <jussi01> intelikey: what?
[08:55] <jussi01> the nixtern*l one?
[08:56] <jussi01> !girl | intelikey
[08:56] <ubotu> intelikey: Girls dont exist on the internet.  See http://www.escapistmagazine.com/print/17/27 | For more interesting reading, see http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/04/13/how-to-not-be-an-asshole-a-guide-for-men/
[08:56] <intelikey> yeah,   doesn't sound like something he'd apporve
[08:56] <jussi01> hehe, hobbsee's doing i bet
[08:56] <stdin> jussi01: http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3932/image11ne1.png
[08:56] <jussi01> !-girl
[08:56] <ubotu> girl has no aliases - added by Hobbsee on 2007-08-12 09:12:44
[08:57] <intelikey> yeah.
[08:57] <jussi01> offs
[08:57] <jussi01> oh...ffs
[08:57] <jussi01> gah
[08:58] <intelikey> !-nixternal
[08:58] <ubotu> nixternal has no aliases - added by Hobbsee on 2007-05-31 09:32:53
[08:58] <jussi01> lol
[08:58] <jussi01> we love hobbsee
[08:58] <intelikey> :)
[08:58] <jussi01> !girls | intelikey
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about girls - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:59] <intelikey> i knew it didn't sound like seveas
[08:59] <jussi01> hehe, they took it down
[08:59] <jussi01> !hobbsee | intelikey
[08:59] <ubotu> intelikey: I phear the stick so shhhhh
[09:00] <jussi01> gah, why cant i change that kopete opens linke in freaking firfox
[09:02] <TyphoidHippo> Hey everyone - I'm trying to use mingetty instead of GDM, KDM, or XDM and everything I can find says to edit /etc/inittab (which is absent from Feisty, it seems)...  I tried creating /etc/inittab and adding what is referenced in the tuts I have read.  I also tried launching mingetty from rc.local - neither of which works.  Any help would be greatly appreciated, and sorry this is so long...
[09:07] <kkathman> hi Hobbsee :)
[09:08] <stdin> jussi01: I still will, because I say so :p
[09:08] <Hobbsee> hiya
[09:08] <stdin> jussi01: s/will/win/
[09:08] <stdin> :p
[09:08] <Hobbsee> kkathman!
[09:09] <kkathman> :)
[09:10] <jussi01> stdin: +b? whats that?
[09:10] <stdin> jussi01: +b is ban :p
[09:11] <jussi01> lol
[09:11] <jussi01> ok
[09:11] <jussi01> modes and sucjh
[09:12] <stdin> jussi01: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[09:13] <stdin> :)
[09:16] <stdin> agg, I can feel a migraine coming on (probably from all the head slapping from jussi01 :P), so I'm off to take a horse-pill and sleep it off
[09:16] <jussi01> lol
[09:17] <SlimG2> Poll: Is KOffice ready to replace OpenOffice.org in Kubuntu?: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3086293.0
[09:17] <kraut> moin
[09:18] <Jucato> stdin: ... we can't be both having migraines right now...
[09:18] <intelikey> :)
[09:18] <intelikey> gooday
[09:18] <jussi01> SlimG2: out of curiosity, did you have my or stdins post first? ie.
[09:18] <jussi01> [09:44]  <jussi01> hmmm, not #kubuntu-devel ?
[09:18] <jussi01> [09:44]  <stdin> you mean #kubuntu-devel ?
[09:18] <Jucato> SlimG2: looks ok to me. although I'd recommend adding an option like "Wait for KOffice 2.0" or be more specific which version of KOffice you are referring to...
[09:18] <intelikey> jussi01 his
[09:19] <jussi01> grrr
[09:19] <stdin> Jucato: don't be afraid to kick jussi01ok :P
[09:19] <jussi01> hehe
[09:19] <Jucato> when my Migraine Load goes 100%, I'll even kick intelikey...
[09:19] <intelikey> yeah he beet me to a bot call too   he's "quick draw mc_graw"  tday
[09:20] <intelikey> Jucato heh
[09:20] <intelikey> :)
[09:20] <jussi01> lol
[09:21] <intelikey> Jucato you really feeling poorly ?
[09:22] <Jucato> migraine. same as stidin...
[09:22] <intelikey> oh yuch.
[09:23] <SlimG2> Jucato: "Wait for KOffice 2.0" option added
[09:23] <Jucato> my situation is worse though... it's 3:22 PM, and my neighbor is on their 3rd day of incessant singing/beer parties... but that's offtopic :(
[09:23] <Jucato> SlimG2: nice :)
[09:27] <SlimG2> Poll: Is KOffice ready to replace OpenOffice.org in Kubuntu?: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3086293.0
[09:27] <jussi01> so anyone actually know how to get kopete to open links in ff not konq?
[09:27] <jussi01> !repeat | SlimG2:
[09:27] <ubotu> SlimG2:: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:27] <ch40s> what is the wallet?
[09:28] <ch40s> !wallet
[09:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wallet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:28] <jussi01> ch40s: its liek the thing that manages your passwords
[09:28] <kkathman> jussi01:  just go to your settings and replace the browser with fiiewdoz
[09:28] <jussi01> !info kwallet
[09:28] <kkathman> firefox I mean
[09:28] <ubotu> Package kwallet does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:28] <flaccid> !kwallet
[09:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwallet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:28] <ch40s> !info kwallet
[09:28] <ch40s> !kwallet
[09:28] <flaccid> dang
[09:28] <ch40s> oh well
[09:28] <Jucato> jussi01: doesn't Kopete have a setting for that? otherwise it follows KDE's default settings
[09:28] <jussi01> kkathman: where in the settings... i kant find it
[09:28] <SlimG2> jussi01: I don't feel like I've earned the !repeat , It's a while since I wrote it the first time
[09:28] <flaccid> system settings - default apps iirc
[09:29] <Jucato> right place
[09:29] <kkathman> jussi01:  kcontrol kde components  browser
[09:29] <Jucato> System Settings -> Default Applications -> Web Browser
[09:29] <jussi01> flaccid:
[09:29] <kkathman> default apps I mean :)
[09:29] <jussi01> i have done that
[09:29] <kkathman> THEN web browser
[09:29] <jussi01> but still no joy
[09:30] <kkathman> check it again, be sure that you clicked the radio button and then put in Firefox, and clicked APPLY
[09:31] <kkathman> be sure its firefox (lowercase)
[09:31] <kkathman> not Firefox
[09:31] <jussi01> still does it
[09:32] <jussi01> ahh, now I apologise, it starts links in firefox, however when you try to go to your email inbox it uses konq
[09:33] <kkathman> ?? email is linked to konq ?? very odd
[09:34] <jussi01> !info kwalletmanager | ch40s
[09:34] <ubotu> ch40s: kwalletmanager: wallet manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 346 kB, installed size 812 kB
[09:34] <jbrouhard> Okay
[09:34] <jbrouhard> someone explain this one to me
[09:34] <jbrouhard> Why is it, even with sudo cfdisk and qpartd...
[09:35] <jbrouhard> After deleting the entire partition table like 10 times in the last hour, The *buntu installers keep thinking I have a NTFS partiton still on the drive ?!
[09:35] <flaccid> remove it with fdisk
[09:35] <jbrouhard> flaccid: i've been using cfdisk.. isn't that just as good ?
[09:37] <jbrouhard> this is so pissing me off.. i've been deleting the partition tables all freaking night
[09:37] <jbrouhard> and it won't delete according to *buntu7
[09:37] <jbrouhard> yet Gentoo says it's gone
[09:37] <jbrouhard> I *KNOW* *buntu doesn't write crap to CD, if i'm booting to the liveCD>
[09:37] <flaccid> never used it sorry
[09:37] <jbrouhard> excuse me while i go reboot.
[09:41] <flaccid> !adeptfix
[09:41] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:44] <RurouniJones> And people say linux isn't user friendly ;)
[09:44] <flaccid> you can smash windows, but who wants to fight penguins
[09:44] <RurouniJones> Seal clubbers with a sense of adevnture?
[09:45] <flaccid> the seals are the bouncers at da club
[09:47] <jbrouhard> flaccid: fdisk didn't work
[09:47] <jbrouhard> it still thinks I have data on that damn drive
[09:47] <jbrouhard> I don't understand what is going on here
[09:48] <jbrouhard> I have never in my life seen "phantom partitions" after they're deleted
[09:49] <flaccid> pastebin error msg
[09:49] <jbrouhard> There's no error message
[09:49] <jbrouhard> i'm trying to install Kubuntu or even xubuntu
[09:50] <jbrouhard> both keep saying that they couldn't partition /dev/sda
[09:50] <jbrouhard> and it automounts the partition, and shows my windows data
[09:50] <jbrouhard> but looking at fdisk *RIGHT NOW* it shows a linux partition
[09:50] <jbrouhard> not windows
[09:50] <jbrouhard> now how is this possible ?
[09:53] <flaccid> remove it with fdisk, jbrouhard
[09:53] <jbrouhard> flaccid: I have been
[09:53] <jbrouhard> for the last two hours.
[09:53] <jbrouhard> Explain to me why it is still here.
[09:54] <jbrouhard> i run sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[09:54] <jbrouhard> delete all partitions
[09:54] <jbrouhard> write the table
[09:54] <jbrouhard> and quit
[09:54] <flaccid> under fdisk?
[09:54] <jbrouhard> yes
[09:54] <jbrouhard> tried fdisk
[09:54] <jbrouhard> cfdisk
[09:54] <RurouniJones> Any suggestions for a decent backup program? I just need a simple "Keep a copy of the dir structure and update the differences" program. Not some arcane compression rdiff jobbie
[09:54] <jbrouhard> even the buntu installer
[09:54] <jbrouhard> all i get is a return of the /dev/sda1 partition with all my windows crap on it
[09:54] <jbrouhard> how in the blue hell is this possible??????
[09:54] <flaccid> i don't know
[09:55] <jbrouhard> I can't even boot the drive, tells me that the drive's boot sector is gone
[09:55] <flaccid> RurouniJones: tar
[09:55] <RurouniJones> Something automated
[09:55] <flaccid> try a grub fix
[09:55] <flaccid> !fixgrub
[09:55] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:55] <jbrouhard> RurouniJones: tar plus a cron job
[09:55] <jbrouhard> flaccid: I don't have linux even remotely installed here
[09:55] <jbrouhard> grub won't fix crap
[09:55] <flaccid> !backup | RurouniJones
[09:55] <ubotu> RurouniJones: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[09:55] <jbrouhard> this had nothing but windows on it to begin with
[09:55] <flaccid> jbrouhard: don't need it to be
[09:56] <RurouniJones> Gracias
[09:56] <flaccid> installing grub into mbr will fix the mbr then maybe you can delete the parts. a bit crazy but worth a try
[09:56] <jbrouhard> hmm
[09:57] <jbrouhard> what the...
[09:57] <jbrouhard> Error 11: unrecognized device string
[09:59] <flaccid> thats a common one you can google
[09:59] <flaccid> i gtg
[10:13] <maverick> can i install gnome-panel in kde and use it instead of kde taskbar ?!
[10:14] <kkathman> maverick:  not sure why you'd want to do that
[10:15] <kkathman> you can add panels in kde and put anything you want on them, including applets and applications
[10:16] <maverick> kkathman: well i want to totally change the look or customize kde taskbar and i can't seem to find any resources
[10:16] <maverick> and i like gnome panel
[10:16] <maverick> so i thought of this
[10:17] <kkathman> maverick:  well play around with the panel settings in kde.  My kde doesnt look a thing like the default - all of my panels are hidden and when they appear, they are small ones in the lower left, lower right and one launch panel for apps in the middle
[10:18] <kkathman> you could create a panel in kde that acts just like the gnome panel in fact
[10:18] <maverick> kkathman: how?
[10:19] <maverick> kkathman: i mean do u have resources to go digg into ?
[10:19] <kkathman> not really I just fiddled with the panel settings :)
[10:19] <kkathman> its more fun that way :)
[10:20] <kkathman> go to any panel already there, right click, and click "add panel"  then right click on the new panel and start adding things - you can position the panel on any of the four sides of the screen
[10:21] <maverick> kkathman: yeah i know, thanks though...
[10:21] <kkathman> maverick:  also, you can get to the panels suite of settings:  kcontrol -desktop - panels
[10:42] <SoulChild> hi all, is there a kernelpatch or something to change the way the Text is displayed in boot (without splash)??? I want more colors like in gentoo.
[10:47] <server_> ext3 killed my hdd :/
[10:48] <jabba> hello
[10:48] <jabba> i am just trying to connect to a novell 6.0 server with ncpmount
[10:48] <jabba> but i always get an invalid server response (-330)
[10:49] <jabba> does anyone know what that means?
[10:56] <shinobi> SoulChild there is a color line in the grub config
[10:57] <shinobi> SoulChild in /etc/boot/grub i think
[10:58] <shinobi> SoulChild sorry /boot/grub
[10:58] <shinobi> SoulChild /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:59] <server_> my ubuntu wont start up, its prompting and nothing happend....
[11:05] <nicolai_> SoulChild: Do you mean the Grub boot-loader?
[11:08] <Sylvarant> Any know how to set up Qt 4.3 in Kdevelop ?
[11:46] <magi_> hello!
[12:02] <stephen> hello
[12:03] <sonoftheclayr> hello
[12:03] <stephen> i need to be able to use 2 different devices at once, ethernet (wired) and my wifi adaptor for Ad-hoc. Knetwork manager doesnt allow you to do this. can anyone help please
[12:04] <llutz> stephen: edit /etc/network/interfaces and configure your devices there
[12:04] <stephen> i dunno how to
[12:05] <stephen> i dont know what to write in the places
[12:05] <stephen> of what s already there
[12:05] <llutz> stephen: please paste your /etc/network/interfaces  at pastebin
[12:05] <llutz> !pastebin | stephen
[12:05] <ubotu> stephen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:05] <stephen> hmmm
[12:06] <stephen> they say inet
[12:06] <stephen> do i chage to adhoc?
[12:06] <llutz> stephen: plz paste
[12:06] <llutz> stephen: remove keys if there are any
[12:06] <stephen> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36161/
[12:06] <stephen> i dunno what you mean by keys
[12:06] <stephen> but there is the paste
[12:07] <llutz> stephen: wlan-keys i meant
[12:07] <stephen> hmm there is one at the end right?
[12:07] <llutz> stephen: no thats no key
[12:07] <stephen> oh
[12:07] <stephen> lol
[12:08] <llutz> stephen: so what is your ethernet you want to keep, eth0?
[12:08] <llutz> for internet connection
[12:08] <jussi01> !rpath
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rpath - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <jussi01> hmmm, someone want to explain rpath to me?
[12:09] <llutz> stephen: and what ist your device for the ad-hoc connection
[12:09] <stephen> i want to keep eth0 yes
[12:09] <stephen> that as my intetrnet connection
[12:09] <stephen> and the wifi adaptor as my ad-hoc
[12:09] <stephen> i want to connect my wifi adapter to a wireless device
[12:10] <llutz> stephen: there are 2 usable wlan-devices ath0 and ath1, whoch one is configured for ad-hoc?
[12:10] <llutz> which
[12:10] <stephen> i dont know
[12:10] <stephen> i only have one wifi device
[12:10] <llutz> stephen: ups, sry, only ath0, i misread
[12:11] <stephen> ups?
[12:12] <stephen> hmmm
[12:12] <stephen> so do you have any idea what i have to change?
[12:12] <llutz> stephen: whats the ip-address range of your ad-hoc network?
[12:12] <stephen> lol
[12:12] <stephen> i dont know that either
[12:12] <stephen> im not good with networking
[12:13] <stephen> how woould i find out?
[12:13] <llutz> stephen: look at one of the ad-hoc partner devices for their ip-address
[12:13] <stephen> :(
[12:13] <stephen> i dont know what that means
[12:14] <stephen> i havent set up an ad-hoc yet
[12:14] <llutz> stephen: if you want a ad-hoc network, you must have at least one other device than your PC to connect to
[12:14] <stephen> yes
[12:14] <stephen> i do
[12:15] <llutz> stephen: so look into its configuration and search its ip-address
[12:15] <stephen> its not that simple
[12:15] <stephen> the device im trying to connect to is a psp
[12:15] <stephen> im trying to get xlink kai working (tunneling software)
[12:15] <jussi01> !find sql
[12:16] <llutz> stephen: sorry i don't know what all that is
[12:16] <ubotu> Found: libapache2-mod-auth-mysql, libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql, libdbd-mysql-perl, libhsqldb-java, libhsqldb-java-doc (and 295 others)
[12:16] <stephen> all i need is an ad-hoc connection
[12:16] <stephen> same as if i were using two pc's as a network
[12:16] <stephen> k-network manager only allows me to have one device connected at one time
[12:17] <jussi01> gah, anyone know the package name for mysql?
[12:17] <stephen> i want to be able to use 2 simutaneosly
[12:17] <llutz> stephen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36162/   try this
[12:18] <llutz> (k)networkmanager is only usefull for people with just one network-device in dhcp-mode. for all other scenarios it's useless (my opinion)
[12:19] <jussi01> llutz: very true
[12:20] <shinobi> llutz fair call - but great for one off wireless connections on the move.
[12:21] <llutz> shinobi: i prefer guessnet :)
[12:21] <shinobi> llutz i'll check it out
[12:23] <llutz> shinobi:together with wpa_supplicant (see /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz)
[12:25] <Piet> Huhu,einer zufllig da ?
[12:25] <stephen> ??
[12:25] <Jucato> !de | Piet
[12:25] <ubotu> Piet: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:27] <Piet> knnte mir einer evtl helfen bez. ATI unter Kubuntu ?
[12:27] <Jucato> Piet: English only
[12:28] <Piet> ohh sry, i see
[12:28] <Jucato> !de | Piet
[12:28] <ubotu> Piet: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:40] <shinobi> thanks llutz, am looking into it
[12:48] <mm_202> hey guys, another [quick]  question: how do I run X apps over ssh?
[12:48] <mm_202> Both boxes are running KUnbuntu..
[12:48] <ScorpKing> how do i find the biggest files on my root partition? i only have about 65MB free :(
[12:48] <llutz> mm_202: use X-forwarding and set $DISPLAY
[12:48] <Tm_T> mm_202: manual pages tells that ssh -X foofoo
[12:49] <mm_202> okay, thank you guys.
[12:49] <Jucato> ScorpKing: try "sudo apt-get clean" to clear out your apt cache (downloaded debs from apt-get)
[12:49] <ScorpKing> done that
[12:50] <Jucato> I think "du" is the command for determining disk/file usage. not really familiar with the options/flags for it
[12:51] <mm_202> anyway for me to be able to bring up a full KDE desktop over X?  Or would I just be better off using VNC?
[12:51] <llutz> for kde mouse-klicking-gui-preferrer "kdirstat"
[12:51] <llutz> mm_202: use freenx
[12:51] <mm_202> k
[12:51] <mm_202> llutz: thank you, again.
[12:51] <J-23> Hello!
[12:52] <ScorpKing> the partition on / is 2.5GB but i cant find what is using the space. apt cache is empty. ok. will try that. thanks llutz and everyone else. :)
[12:53] <llutz> ScorpKing: 2.5GB / if you don't have /tmp, /var, /home on seperate partitions is not that much...
[12:53] <jussi01> hmmm, is there a way to change the colour of the hilights of the tabs/channel list in konversation? (currently they are green/red)
[12:53] <ScorpKing> home is 9BG
[12:54] <ScorpKing> GB*
[12:54] <llutz> ScorpKing: only /home extra? try to remove unused apps
[12:55] <llutz> ScorpKing: or if you have some diskspace: put /var on an extra partition too
[12:55] <Jucato> jussi01: not that I know of. you can of course confirm in #konversation
[12:55] <ScorpKing> llutz: i only have default apps with maybe 5 extra. think i must move /var.
[12:56] <jussi01> Jucato: thanks. seems i can change everything but that
[12:56] <llutz> ScorpKing: maybe /tmp too. you are running in severe trouble if /tmp will be bloated and your / use is 100%
[12:57] <Remo_A> I get can't set config #1, error -71 when I connect ANY usb device(scanner, connector for mobile phone...) only the usb mouse works, since the newest kernel release, what the hell are you guys doing on feisty??
[12:57] <ScorpKing> llutz: haha! don't i know that! took me some time to figure out why i couldn't log in the other day. /tmp was 100% full. lol
[12:58] <Remo_A> As it seems more than one person have that problem
[12:58] <llutz> ScorpKing: bad luck if you don't have a real root-account then
[12:59] <Remo_A>  usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 || usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice || usb 3-1: can't set config #1, error -71
[12:59] <ScorpKing> llutz: not really. was easy to get in as my home partition had lots of free space.
[01:00] <Tm_T> oh no it's meaty beaty jono bacon! ruuuun!
[01:00] <llutz> ScorpKing: how did you login to use it, if login will fail due to missing diskspace?
[01:01] <jono> Tm_T: hehe
[01:01] <Tm_T> jono: always nice to see you sir
[01:01] <jono> Tm_T: likewise :)
[01:01] <ScorpKing> llutz: tty1 still loged in :) login via kdm gave 'xsessions: unable to write to /tmp'
[01:02] <llutz> ScorpKing: ah, ok then
[01:03] <BobH> A linux newbe trying to install a package that might work with Creative X-fi. Can't get it to install. "
[01:03] <BobH> owner@admin-desktop:~/Desktop$ dir
[01:03] <BobH> automatix2_1.1-4.6-7.04feisty_amd64.deb        oss-install.pdf
[01:03] <BobH> libdvdcss2_1.2.9-2medibuntu2+build1_amd64.deb  oss-linux_v4.0-1006_amd64.deb
[01:03] <BobH> owner@admin-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -l oss-linux_4.0-1006_amd64.deb
[01:03] <BobH> No packages found matching oss-linux_4.0-1006_amd64.deb.
[01:03] <BobH> Sorry, but what do I do now?
[01:03] <llutz> BobH: dpkg -i <package>   to install
[01:04] <waylandbill> BobH: you can look in the repositories using a package manager as well (as opposed to manually installing debs)
[01:09] <ScorpKing> something wrong with my connection. its going fishing all the time :( i'll be back some other time. cheers ppl
[01:11] <Turazoor> hi all, i'm having a problem "making" drivers for my wlan usb! could somebody possibly translate the errors?
[01:13] <jussi01> Turazoor: what is your chipset?
[01:14] <Turazoor> jussi01: hi, it's the rt73 chipset, i have to compile drivers, but i'm getting stupendous errors lol
[01:14] <jussi01> Turazoor: if they are 1 line errors, put them here other wise give us a past of them
[01:14] <jussi01> !paste | Turazoor
[01:14] <ubotu> Turazoor: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:15] <Turazoor> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36167/
[01:16] <Turazoor> do u want me to paste the info in rtmp_main.c
[01:16] <Turazoor> ?
[01:18] <Turazoor> heres the rtmp_main.c file :: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36168/
[01:19] <waylandbill> Turazoor: sounds like that version may not be correct for the kernel version.
[01:19] <jussi01> yep, that sounds about right. or a mising dep
[01:21] <Turazoor> ok.... ur talking to a noob here lol!
[01:21] <Turazoor> it does say that it is for 6.10 but will for all above
[01:29] <waylandbill> Turazoor: have you tried using ndiswrapper and a windows driver?
[01:29] <Turazoor> now going to try that after eventually being able to get rid of the linux drivers for my wlan! as these were conflicting
[01:30] <Turazoor> waylandbill: it's ndiswrapper -i rt73.inf to install right
[01:32] <waylandbill> Turazoor: I don't know what those windows files look like for your card, but that sounds about right. The wiki should have complete documentation for ndiswrapper.
[01:32] <waylandbill> !ndiswrapper
[01:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:33] <Turazoor> kk ty
[01:34] <Turazoor> does ndiswrapper copy the relevant files to its own location or.. will it use them from wherever i specify them
[01:35] <Turazoor> in other words can i delete/move the rt73.inf file after installing it
[01:35] <waylandbill> Turazoor: right.
[01:35] <zemisolsol> hi
[01:35] <Turazoor> waylandbill: so i can move it/ndiswrapper copies it
[01:36] <waylandbill> correct
[01:36] <Turazoor> cool
[01:37] <Turazoor> ok, it's still saying there is an alternate driver
[01:37] <zemisolsol> 
[01:38] <zemisolsol> hi
[01:38] <waylandbill> Turazoor: enter 'ndiswrapper' with no arguments to get the usage hints. One tells how to remove installed ndis drivers.
[01:38] <Turazoor> kk
[01:39] <Turazoor> ok, so its uninstalled
[01:41] <Turazoor> i've installed it again and it is still saying "alternate driver rt2570".. and iwconfig is showing no wlan access
[01:42] <Turazoor> rt73 and rt2570 aren't even in lsmod
[01:42] <harmental> hey guys...what are fstab parameters i have to use for a ext3 auxiliary (data) partition?
[01:56] <nerv203> Hey everyone.
[01:56] <nerv203> I have a random small question that'll make me look like a total noob.
[01:59] <pag> !ask | nerv203
[01:59] <ubotu> nerv203: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:03] <Turazoor> anyone used Compiz yet?
[02:05] <_4strO> Turazoor: i use it why ?
[02:06] <Fraction> hi there, a question. When Im trying to connect to a wireless network, the computor crashes and I have to reboot.. what might be wrong? HW ?
[02:07] <Turazoor> _4strO: just checking whether its worth the install / whether its easy to setup on Kubuntu 7.04
[02:08] <_4strO> Turazoor: depend of your video card
[02:09] <Turazoor> _4strO: nvidia tnt2 lol!.. not to fantastic, but i beleive it's installed correctly
[02:09] <_4strO> Turazoor: http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/8/26/The-best-way-to-install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-Feisty
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: thats going to be difficult
[02:10] <Turazoor> nosrednaekim: why?
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> Turazoor: its underpowered, and it requires XGL which is a bit harder to get running than AIGLX
[02:12] <J-23> Hello! I need help.
[02:12] <devsherif> I can see that ubuntu is little similar to debian...what are the difference between them
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> J-23: ask!
[02:13] <_4strO> !ask | J-23
[02:13] <ubotu> J-23: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> devsherif: easier to install and use.
[02:13] <J-23> In Fedora and Ubuntu, when I use it ~2 days, I see in df 100% of used space, file removing changes nothing.
[02:15] <nerv203> Hmmm... how do I set up an account which has no sudo access?
[02:15] <nerv203> I need a new one for my mom/brother/dad
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> nerv203: any new account automatically has not sudo access
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> *no
[02:16] <_4strO> nerv203: nevermind, if you dont have the pass ...
[02:16] <_4strO> but nosrednaekimis right
[02:17] <aguitel> nosrednaekim, hello ,how i change my letter in all the system ?
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> your letter?
[02:18] <_4strO> me think that aguitel has been under windows for so much time :p
[02:19] <aguitel> nosrednaekim,style of letter
[02:20] <shinobi> still not happy with compiz-fusion to be honest. tried both new release repos...seems to me that beryl last version is still better...
[02:20] <_4strO> shinobi: did you try the amaranth repo ?
[02:21] <_4strO> aguitel: the font dtyle ?
[02:21] <_4strO> style*
[02:21] <aguitel> exact
[02:21] <aguitel> because i can not change my font
[02:21] <_4strO> K / system settings / looks and feel
[02:22] <aguitel> nothing happens
[02:22] <_4strO> perhaps you have to restart X
[02:27] <shinobi> _4strO have tried both amaranth and trevinho. no joy on getting the 3d plugin. without that, compiz is just not viable aletrnative
[02:28] <hcbox> excellent l'affichage nickel et 10k fps sous glxgears
[02:33] <henkoegema> t
[02:41] <aurelien> bonjour
[02:46] <chairul> anyone speaks indonesian
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> !in
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about in - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <yamal> !id | chairul
[02:47] <ubotu> chairul: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> !indonesian
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about indonesian - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <chairul> kalo pake kubuntu gmn
[02:48] <J-23> Hello!
[02:48] <J-23> I have ~4,7G partition with Kubuntu (installed on Ubuntu with Aptitude)
[02:48] <J-23> In Fedora and Ubuntu, when I have ~0,7G of free space, i can't create files/directories on normal user.
[02:49] <ks3> J-23:  a percentage is reserved for root in case of emergencies
[02:49] <ks3> J-23: but the amount can be modified with tune2fs
[02:49] <Chousuke> J-23: You should have more free space
[02:50] <J-23> I can't resize this partition, disk is too small.
[02:50] <Chousuke> J-23: It may adversely affect performance if your disk is near full.
[02:51] <Perseid> OK. I swear I had this solved once but I'm back. SB Audigy. No audio. I can play around with alsamixer but there is no udio. If I try to play audio it stops suddenly as if I've hit stop. This happens in amarok and kaffeine.
[02:55] <CPrgmSwR2> Any kde4 developers in here
[02:56] <CPrgmSwR2> I can't seem to get kde4 to start in kubuntu
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> CPrgmSwR2: #kubuntu-devel
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> (if it gives you an eror or something
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> other wise don't go there)
[02:59] <CPrgmSwR2> its from svn
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> CPrgmSwR2: #kde
[03:00] <chairul> how to create link with konqueror
[03:02] <CPrgmSwR2> nosrednaekim: I have kde4 working in gentoo
[03:07] <arash> Hi, how do i reinstall Kmix freshly?
[03:07] <arash> So it dont remember what it had configuration
[03:09] <emilsedgh> arash: do it from adept manager...
[03:09] <Jucato> er,...
[03:09] <arash> ok thanks
[03:10] <Jucato> arash: actually, all you probably need to do is
[03:10] <emilsedgh> Jucato: hey :P
[03:10] <arash> is....?
[03:11] <waylandbill> :)
[03:11] <Jucato> arash: quit kmix, go to /home/username/.kde/share/config and remove the kmixrc and kmixctrlrc files
[03:11] <Jucato> move or remove or rename
[03:11] <Jucato> then start kmix again
[03:11] <Jucato> hi emilsedgh, hi waylandbill, hi Jucato
[03:11] <arash> Ok Jucato, I give it a shot
[03:12] <waylandbill> you said hi to yourself like 3rd person. :)
[03:12] <Jucato> oh I was saying hi to my other self :)
[03:12] <Jucato> right Jucato?
[03:12] <Jucato> right on!
[03:12] <waylandbill> lol
[03:12] <llutz> oh oh, splitted personality
[03:12] <emilsedgh> how r u Jucato?
[03:12] <Jucato> emilsedgh: depends. which of us are you asking?
[03:13] <knowledge25k> hello can somebody help me
[03:13] <waylandbill> Like how I talk to myself when I need to hold an intelligent conversation? :P
[03:13] <Jucato> !somebody | knowledge25k
[03:13] <ubotu> knowledge25k: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:13] <arash> arg, annoying that all files start with 'k' in config :p
[03:13] <Jucato> makes it easier to know that they aren't gnomed :)
[03:14] <arash> uhu..., btw, don't hate me for this, but is there any way that the K 'get clicked' when you press windows/meta-button?
[03:14] <emilsedgh> lol
[03:14] <arash> atm that button is useless...
[03:14] <Jucato> arash: there is a way. but 1) I forgot how and 2) it's quite disadvantageous
[03:14] <waylandbill> assign Alt-F1 to the windows button.
[03:15] <emilsedgh> Jucato: the KDE Fanboy one :P
[03:15] <Jucato> arash: oh  if you make it open up the K menu only, it will be more useless
[03:15] <arash> waylandbill , how?
[03:15] <Jucato> arash: because right now, you can use it any combination. Win+A-Z, Win+Space, Win+Anything
[03:15] <knowledge25k> i install loooking glass to a iso cd,and i can't see to get it to install to my computer.can somebody help me ?
[03:16] <Jucato> O.o
[03:16] <waylandbill> Jucato: wouldn't you still be able to use those shortcuts regardless?
[03:16] <Jucato> waylandbill: afaik, no. although of course I might be (hopefully) wrong
[03:16] <Jucato> it's either a modifier key or it's not...
[03:16] <waylandbill> I don't know as I can't remember the last time I've actually used that key for anything.
[03:17] <Jucato> arash: you can set Win+Space to launch the K Menu. though you can probably use Katapult (Alt+Space) to make things faster too
[03:17] <Jucato> !katapult | arash
[03:17] <ubotu> arash: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[03:18] <Jucato> but in the meantime *we* take our leave
[03:18] <waylandbill> looks like it's just a modifier key. Just assigning it to something alone isn't possible.
[03:18] <Jucato> we'll be back!
[03:18] <Jucato> waylandbill: it's possible to use it as a standalone key. but you lose it's modifier keyness
[03:19] <waylandbill> sounds easier to just use Alt-F1. :)
[03:19] <Jucato> harder to reach. Win+Space is easier hahaha
[03:19] <Jucato> ok we're gone
[03:19] <waylandbill> bye jucato and bye jucato
[03:20] <arash> actually , it must be possible, since the OS can just check if meta button is in ShiftState when any button is pressed :p
[03:20] <arash> its quite hard to how this catafult works
[03:21] <friulhack> is someone here
[03:21] <arash> friualhack , yes
[03:21] <friulhack> that knows about irc channel speaking about hacking?
[03:21] <friulhack> so?
[03:22] <friulhack> -.-
[03:22] <friulhack> no answer
[03:22] <friulhack> -.-"
[03:22] <arash> what? "knows about irc channel speaking about hacking" ,errr?
[03:22] <friulhack> yeah
[03:23] <friulhack> a channel
[03:23] <friulhack> where the topic is hacking
[03:23] <arash> aha lol
[03:23] <knowledge25k> i install loooking glass to a iso cd,and i can't see to get it to install to my computer.can somebody help me ?
[03:23] <arash> !hacking
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hacking - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <emilsedgh> friulhack: Hacking, what kind of hacking? if you mean website defacing, email password cracking and..., they are not hacking, you should ask for a channel about Security, the real hacking is being usefull
[03:24] <arash> friualhack , btw. doens't 'hacking' has thousands of meaning?
[03:25] <friulhack> hacking
[03:25] <friulhack> like exploiting
[03:25] <arash> Naughty!
[03:25] <friulhack> brake system
[03:25] <friulhack> defacing
[03:25] <Arwen> hacking = making software behave in a way different than the way it was intended
[03:25] <friulhack> ...
[03:25] <arash> Thanks Arwen :), that makes sense
[03:25] <friulhack> i'm speaking about practic hacking
[03:25] <Arwen> whether that's cracking payware, stealing bank passwords, or adding new features, it's all hacking
[03:25] <friulhack> no
[03:25] <friulhack> my hacking is
[03:26] <friulhack> exploiting
[03:26] <emilsedgh> friulhack: thats not hacking, thats cracking...FreeSoftwareCommunity do not like Crackers...
[03:26] <Arwen> cracking is a subset of hacking
[03:26] <sito> what can i know the ram type... ddr or ddr2?
[03:26] <friulhack> ok
[03:26] <Arwen> sito, read your computer's manual
[03:26] <arash> yea, then more people use the good windows programs!!!
[03:26] <grul> !lova
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lova - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <grul> :(
[03:26] <friulhack> but im looking  for a channell of hacking
[03:26] <grul> !love
[03:26] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[03:27] <friulhack> whic distro of linux do u use?
[03:27] <friulhack> kubuntu?
[03:27] <Arwen> I use Microsoft Windows.
[03:27] <Arwen> Thank you very much.
[03:27] <friulhack> winzozz sucks
[03:27] <friulhack> ubuntu 4ver
[03:27] <Arwen> ^^ - statements like that are why people look down on F/OSS
[03:27] <emilsedgh> sito:  kinfocenter shows you some information
[03:28] <sito> emilsedgh: thanks
[03:28] <hcbox> how can i know with kernel i'm running :D ( stupid question i know )
[03:28] <sayers> Hello I'm trying to load the Disk & file system module so I can acess my 81 gig HDD. It seems not to work.
[03:28] <emilsedgh> maybe you guys want to continue this in #kubuntu-offtopic ?
[03:29] <knowledge25k> i install loooking glass to a iso cd,and i can't see to get it to install to my computer.can somebody help me ?
[03:29] <sayers> and when I try to load this I get in error saying hal-storage-fixed-mount refused 1000
[03:29] <emilsedgh> hcbox: run uname -r in konsole
[03:30] <Arwen> hcbox, uname -r
[03:30] <emilsedgh> sayers: did you go to 'Administrator Mode' ?
[03:30] <emilsedgh> knowledge25k: please do not repeat...
[03:30] <sayers> emilsedgh: ofcorse. It didn't ask for anything though.
[03:31] <arash> sayers - do you know the basic mount commands (if you don't, then I might know enough to help you out :p )
[03:31] <sayers> arash: I can mount it in root if I wanted to but I'd rather mount it a  non-sudo
[03:32] <arash> sayers , why can't you do mount command with root? arn't  that the only way really?
[03:32] <emilsedgh> sayers: youre running live? I dunno, maybe it will be solved when its installed...
[03:33] <sayers> emilsedgh: I've installed Gutsy
[03:33] <friulhack> fuck u
[03:33] <Perseid> So if I have a Dapper install will I naturally update to Feisty by doing an apt-get upgrade?
[03:33] <friulhack> fuck fuck fuck fuck
[03:33] <PriceChild> !ohmy | friulhack
[03:33] <ubotu> friulhack: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:33] <Jucato> !language | friulhack
[03:33] <friulhack> perseid fuck u
[03:33] <Jucato> bah
[03:34] <ben_> someones angry
[03:35] <Perseid> Actually, I think someone's 12. :)
[03:35] <knowledge25k> well help me
[03:35] <Psycoshot> Anyone know how to set a DVORAK keyboard??
[03:35] <inaety> Perseid: why was he mad at you
[03:36] <Jucato> Perseid: if you're on Dapper, you have to upgrade to Edgy before you can reach Feisty and so on
[03:36] <emilsedgh> sayers: sayersdidnt it ask for password? could you try killall kdesud ?
[03:36] <Perseid> I think I was just the person who said something at the time. He was just a random spammer.
[03:36] <emilsedgh> Jucato: what was wrong with this guy?
[03:36] <Jucato> beats me...
[03:36] <Perseid> jucato: And I can't do this through apt-get?
[03:37] <Jucato> you can. but you can't directly go to Feisty. you have to upgrade to Edgy first
[03:37] <angelo> hello
[03:37] <CPrgmSwR2> Can someone help me setup the fglrx dirvers
[03:37] <Arwen> CPrgmSwR2, been a while since I did it, but sure
[03:37] <CPrgmSwR2> It seems that after installing them I am still usering the r300 drivers
[03:38] <CPrgmSwR2> because on xorg.conf it has driver "ati"
[03:38] <angelo> someone could help me in getting to #ubuntu-it?
[03:38] <Arwen> CPrgmSwR2, well, change it to "fglrx"
[03:38] <CPrgmSwR2> I did and everything got all screwed up
[03:38] <Arwen> angelo, um, /join #ubuntu-it ?
[03:38] <CPrgmSwR2> Like the windows didn't appear right
[03:38] <Perseid> So you mean take the sources list, change it to edgy, do an upgrade, change it to feisty and upgrade again?
[03:38] <angelo> yes
[03:39] <inaety> Perseid: its gonna take forever
[03:39] <angelo> THENKS
[03:39] <Jucato> Perseid: yes... you might just want to install :)
[03:39] <inaety> Perseid: take less time to download the feisty cd and install over
[03:39] <Arwen> CPrgmSwR2, pastebin the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log (without switching back to the r300 driver)
[03:39] <Arwen> and /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:39] <Perseid> That won't blast anything?
[03:39] <angelo> arwen
[03:39] <Jucato> as long as you kept your /home in a separate partition, no it shouldn't
[03:39] <inaety> Perseid: you will loose your docs or whatever, but just back up everything you need
[03:39] <Arwen> angelo, yes?
[03:40] <angelo> I meant that
[03:40] <CPrgmSwR2> Arwen: give me a couple minutes to do that
[03:40] <paradise> hi
[03:40] <paradise> i have a problem
[03:40] <paradise> plz can get some help ?
[03:40] <Perseid> Hmm. OK. Thanks.
[03:40] <angelo> I meant i'd need to join that #
[03:40] <inaety> paradise: just ask your problem
[03:41] <angelo> arwen
[03:41] <paradise> i have hd external
[03:41] <Jucato> angelo: just click on the channel name: #ubuntu-it
[03:42] <paradise> and ntfs i can`t wirte/read
[03:42] <Jucato> !ntfs | paradise
[03:42] <ubotu> paradise: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:42] <angelo> thanks
[03:42] <inaety> !ntfs-3g
[03:42] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:42] <paradise> thanks
[03:42] <angelo> :-D
[03:42] <CPrgmSwR2> http://rafb.net/p/zSF1Rp62.html
[03:42] <CPrgmSwR2> that will be of use
[03:42] <paradise> ok i try it
[03:43] <paradise> but not useful
[03:43] <Perseid> OK. New problem. My boot setup is root (hd0,0) and kernel root=/dev/hdc1 but every time the package manager installs a new kernel they get rewritten to (hd1,0) and /dev/hdb1 and of course it won't boot unless I change it first. Why is it doing that?
[03:43] <CPrgmSwR2> xorg.conf: http://rafb.net/p/eYChiw29.html
[03:43] <angelo> does anyone know how to make dtagonaturally speaking running?
[03:43] <paradise> i will try again thanks
[03:43] <Perseid> Is ntfs-3g safe?
[03:43] <angelo> under linux
[03:43] <llutz> Perseid: set groot, kopt in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:44] <CPrgmSwR2> Xorg.0.log http://rafb.net/p/NfwiKx29.html
[03:44] <Perseid> llutz: Ahah. I see it. Thanks. :)
[03:44] <angelo> dragon naturally  speaking under linux i mean
[03:45] <Arwen> CPrgmSwR2, alright, one second
[03:46] <CPrgmSwR2> lsmod: http://rafb.net/p/GLuG5351.html
[03:46] <CPrgmSwR2> I noticed that radeon is still being displayed
[03:46] <angelo> as i'm in need of a dictation program for italians
[03:46] <CPrgmSwR2> Arwen: I am going to try something brb
[03:46] <Arwen> CPrgmSwR2, ah, you forgot to rmmod the old one after installation
[03:46] <Arwen> I know what you can do
[03:47] <CPrgmSwR2> okay
[03:47] <CPrgmSwR2> what do I do
[03:47] <inaety> angelo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168711
[03:47] <CPrgmSwR2> Do I just do a rmmod radeon
[03:47] <inaety> angelo: follow the second post
[03:47] <CPrgmSwR2> and then do modprobe fglrx
[03:47] <Arwen> CPrgmSwR2, switch to virtual console 1, type "rmmod ati", "rmmod radeon", "rmmod drm", "rmmod dri"
[03:47] <Arwen> then you can modprobe fglrx
[03:47] <Fraction> question: I have a wireless network card with the correct drivers installed, I can see the networks around me using KNetworkManage, but as soon as I choose to connect to a specifik network - sometimes the computor crashes and I have to reboot it.. what might be wrong? Thanks
[03:47] <CPrgmSwR2> okay got it
[03:47] <CPrgmSwR2> brb
[03:47] <ubunturos> anybody with a SiS 650 graphics card (onboard?)
[03:48] <ubunturos> !SiS
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sis - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <angelo> thanks a LOT
[03:50] <CPrgmSwR2> Arwen: okay back
[03:50] <Arwen> did it work? I forgot to mention that you have to shut down kdm first..
[03:50] <CPrgmSwR2> How do I make usre that opengl is using ati and not X11
[03:50] <Arwen> say what?
[03:50] <CPrgmSwR2> I got the fglrx module loaded
[03:51] <CPrgmSwR2> but still don't have dri redenring
[03:51] <shinobi> Fraction sometimes the knetworkmanager and the /etc/network/interfaces conflict. in /etc/network.interfaces, you only need the lo inerface lines if you use knetwork manager
[03:51] <Arwen> CPrgmSwR2, yeah, that was step two
[03:51] <Arwen> you need to disable composite in xorg.conf
[03:51] <Arwen> Section "Extensions"
[03:51] <Arwen>         Option          "Composite"     "0"
[03:51] <Arwen> EndSection
[03:51] <Arwen> add that to the end
[03:51] <shinobi> Fraction if you are using a broadcom card then there are other issues too
[03:52] <Arwen> then restart X
[03:53] <inaety> Fraction: you should try seeing if the card works through command line without knetworkmanager...and then as long as you are connected then its an issue with knetworkmanager
[03:53] <CPrgmSwR2> Arwen: I don't even home Composite in my xorg.conf
[03:53] <CPrgmSwR2> you can check as I posted it earlier
[03:53] <Arwen> I know
[03:53] <Fraction> shinobi: thanks, not using a broadcom card though.. the strange this is that it seems to crash even when Im not using the KNetworkmanager, for instance I tried to type "ipconfig eth1 essid networkname" and it crashed
[03:53] <Arwen> it has to be explicitly disabled
[03:53] <Arwen> CPrgmSwR2, trust me, I know what I'm talking about
[03:53] <inaety> Fraction: it's iwconfig
[03:54] <shinobi> Fraction yes
[03:54] <CPrgmSwR2> okay brb
[03:54] <freepbxguy> t
[03:55] <CPrgmSwR2> Arwen: that did it
[03:55] <CPrgmSwR2> Completely different from gentoo
[03:55] <Arwen> heh
[03:55] <shinobi> Fraction it is iwconfig, but still doesn't really explain a crash
[03:55] <CPrgmSwR2> I infact have xcomposite enabled on my getnoo install
[03:55] <CPrgmSwR2> with the latest drivers
[03:55] <shinobi> Fraction but for sure check out your /etc/network/interfaces before running knetworkmanager
[03:55] <Arwen> CPrgmSwR2, blame ATI.
[03:56] <CPrgmSwR2> I keep reading about some new driver comming out, but still no new driver
[03:56] <Arwen> heh, yeah
[03:56] <shinobi> Fraction then it might at least work. also be aware than the netwrok settings of the kubuntu control panels write to the /etc/network/interfaces file
[03:56] <Fraction> shinobi I find alot of interfaces in there.. and there should only be loopback?
[03:56] <shinobi> Fraction if you use knetwork manager yes
[03:57] <Fraction> shinobi: ok thanks.. will try that
[03:57] <shinobi> Fraction try saving a backup first, then remove all but th lo interface lines
[03:57] <shinobi> Fraction then reboot one time and get knetwork manager up
[03:58] <shinobi> Fraction may work directly that way...does for me after some mroe hacking
[03:58] <CPrgmSwR2> Arwen: at phoronix they got creative and titled an artile "One Bug A Day Keeps AIGLX Away"
[03:58] <Arwen> heh
[03:58] <Fraction> shinobi: allright thanks, trying now
[03:58] <CPrgmSwR2> Arwen: anyways thnx for the help
[03:58] <Arwen> really, I don't even care about XComposite, I just wish fglrx had competent dual-head support and didn't run slower than Intel chips
[03:59] <CPrgmSwR2> Arwen: I actuall want the XComposite
[03:59] <CPrgmSwR2> because there are a lot of nice features in kde4 that use XComposite
[03:59] <CPrgmSwR2> brb
[03:59] <Arwen> *shrug*, that's the last thing on my priority list though
[03:59] <spawn57> hi guys, do any of you know how I can get musicbrainz working on amarok?
[03:59] <aguitel> !gusty
[03:59] <ubotu> It is spelt !guTSy :)
[03:59] <hcbox> xgl uses 100% of my cpu, how can i fix it ?
[04:00] <Arwen> hcbox, turn it off
[04:00] <Arwen> What'd you expect?
[04:00] <hcbox> Arwen: i hate Ati cards :D
[04:00] <paradise> bro is not usfel :(
[04:00] <paradise> i hope to access i do mount but i cant write and read
[04:00] <hcbox> seems to be easy to run compiz-fusion under nvidia ?
[04:01] <Arwen> meh, nvidia has their own problems
[04:01] <hcbox> ahem
[04:01] <hcbox> working greater than ati nor ?
[04:02] <Arwen> yes, everything works better than ATI..
[04:02] <hcbox> lol :D
[04:03] <hcbox> gonna buy some nvidia card
[04:04] <bebege> wasup my fellow linux users......
[04:04] <Arwen> What makes you think we use Lunix?
[04:04] <freepbxguy> o
[04:04] <freepbxguy> t
[04:05] <bebege> I know most of ya'll use linux.....
[04:05] <paradise> duh problem it never solve it :@ NTFS
[04:05] <spawn57> doubt that
[04:05] <eagles0513875> paradise: what problem u having with ntfs u want to have rw access
[04:05] <paradise> YES
[04:05] <paradise> but i cant
[04:05] <paradise> i have external hd
[04:06] <spawn57> paradise, you can use ntfs-3g for now =P
[04:06] <spawn57> it works great
[04:06] <paradise> i hope
[04:06] <bebege> so Arwen, you tryinnn' to tell me that it's not mostly linux users in here?
[04:06] <spawn57> unless you got big movie files, then it'll slow down
[04:06] <paradise> i install
[04:06] <eagles0513875> paradise: ur goign to need to use ntfs-3g
[04:06] <paradise> but did`t access
[04:07] <llutz> !info gaim
[04:07] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.0+beta6-1ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1700 kB, installed size 4808 kB
[04:07] <llutz> !info kopete
[04:07] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 7108 kB, installed size 19632 kB
[04:08] <paradise> sooo
[04:08] <shinobi> llutzwhy is kopete that much bigger?
[04:08] <shinobi> llutz why is kopete that much bigger?
[04:08] <paradise> what i do to access
[04:08] <bebege> !info konversation
[04:08] <ubotu> konversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 5038 kB, installed size 12996 kB
[04:08] <paradise> step by step
[04:09] <Tm_T> shinobi: more graphics, pics and stuff, also more features, much more
[04:09] <llutz> shinobi: no idea
[04:09] <bebege> shinobi?
[04:09] <paradise> hello !
[04:09] <shinobi> Tm_T okay. thanks
[04:10] <llutz> shinobi: K-bloat though :)
[04:10] <paradise> not solve ? that ntfs is big problem
[04:10] <Tm_T> shinobi: or have you seen webcam support in Gaim? or, have you seen this? http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/kopete-gonedark-mod-1.png (old pic, I know, ugly)
[04:11] <paradise> can anyone help me plz !
[04:15] <shinobi> Tm_T that's pretty.
[04:20] <shinobi> has anyone managed to get their superkaramba themes transparent when using beryl/compiz
[04:23] <arash> paradise, you have problem with ntfs-3g?
[04:26] <paradise> yees
[04:27] <paradise> i have pro with it
[04:27] <paradise> arash hello
[04:27] <arash> Hi
[04:27] <paradise> yes how can i solve it ?
[04:27] <arash> paradise:  indeed, you must always put the one you talk to's name with it
[04:28] <arash> press tab in your irc program
[04:28] <arash> paradise: what is your problem?
[04:29] <paradise> arash my problem with ntfs i have external hd and i cant access rw :(
[04:29] <arash> paradise:  have you installed ntfs-3g ?
[04:30] <arash> paradise: do you use Kubuntu?
[04:30] <paradise> arash yes i have  yes
[04:30] <idanamos> hiiiii  guys
[04:30] <paradise> arash i use kubuntu
[04:30] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[04:30] <idanamos> do i need anti virus for ubuntu?
[04:31] <arash> paradise: hmm... tried something as simple as K -> System -> ntfs-3g configuration?
[04:31] <arash> idanamos , this Kubuntu channel, definetly not if you only get programs form the apt-get
[04:31] <paradise> arash yes but not reaspont
[04:31] <paradise> arash sorry for my english
[04:32] <arash> idanamos , antiviruses is stupid on windows, and is far stupider on linux systems.. (my opinion)
[04:32] <BluesKaj> paradise, only if you are accessing a windows partition/pc from linux...a possible malware transfer could happen
[04:32] <Ralesk> hi all; I have my windows fonts installed and a few of them (particularly the otherwise excellent Lucida Sans Unicode) don't seem to come with bold versions -- how can I get Konqueror to fakebold/fakeitalicise all the fonts that miss such versions?  Firefox gets it right, but that might be because of Pango.
[04:32] <bebege> which antivirus is best for linux... can anyone tellll me?
[04:32] <paradise> arash idon`t know
[04:33] <BluesKaj> !clamav
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clamav - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <BluesKaj> !antivirus
[04:33] <arash> paradise: hmm, nothing happens when you press 'configuration for NTFS-3g'?
[04:33] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[04:33] <paradise> arash but i use this command kdesu konqueror media:/ i read but i did`t write
[04:33] <paradise> arash no nothing
[04:33] <sayers> bebege: You do not need antivirus since it would only be useful for scanning windows
[04:34] <bebege> so you ar tellin' me that with linux an antivirus is a waste of time?
[04:34] <arash> paradise: pastebin your /etc/fstab
[04:34] <arash> bebege  and money ;), yes, it's even that on Windows :p
[04:34] <paradise> arash ok thin ?
[04:34] <arash> paradise: you know what pastebin is?
[04:35] <paradise> arash loooooooooool no
[04:35] <arash> !pastebin |paradise
[04:35] <ubotu> paradise: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:35] <BluesKaj> arash, not true about windows ..avs do help
[04:35] <bebege> arash how come?
[04:35] <arash> grab all text in your /etc/fstab text file and paste it there
[04:35] <paradise> arash ahh ok wait
[04:36] <shinobi> BluesKaj can do...or can not, depending on the software
[04:36] <arash> BluesKaj , bebege , well ok, they are good if you dont get slowed down. But It's my oppiinion
[04:36] <BluesKaj> arash, don't make rash statements pls :)
[04:36] <soccermike1337> Does anyone know how to install the intel wireless a/b/g driver?
[04:37] <shinobi> BluesKa jarash : symantec employee???
[04:37] <paradise> arash http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36186/
[04:37] <arash> BluesKaj, whatever, this isn't Windows channel anyway :p
[04:37] <paradise> arash sdb1 is a partion
[04:38] <BluesKaj> yes, but ppl come here for good advice , nothing wrong with expressing opinuions as long as you say so in the statement and not afterwards.
[04:38] <soccermike1337> i need help with install the intel wireless 3945 a/b/g driver
[04:38] <arash> BluesKaj, you are right, sorry then...
[04:38] <paradise> arash :) take ur time bro
[04:38] <BluesKaj> !patience | soccermike1337
[04:38] <ubotu> soccermike1337: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:39] <BluesKaj> np arash :)
[04:39] <soccermike1337> :P
[04:39] <soccermike1337> sorry
[04:39] <soccermike1337> a lot of people talk in these channels, and sometimes questions aren't read
[04:39] <BluesKaj> !wireless | soccermike1337
[04:39] <ubotu> soccermike1337: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:40] <paradise> arash did u read a fstap ?
[04:40] <arash> BluesKaj: Im no expert, so I can't give any really direct things to change in the fstab, and you souldnt
[04:40] <arash> i meant to say to paradise
[04:40] <paradise> arash lol ok
[04:40] <arash> but you can try this paradise
[04:41] <paradise> arash what is this ?
[04:41] <Ralesk> paradise: what's your problem with ntfs-3g again? I came in after your conversation started
[04:41] <BluesKaj> uhhmm , fstab ...arash ?
[04:41] <DrOnline> soccermike1337: Should just be modprobe ipw3945 (I think :P)
[04:41] <paradise> Ralesk i now
[04:41] <soccermike1337> whats that?
[04:41] <arash> BluesKaj, i wrote to wrong person...
[04:41] <DrOnline> soccermike1337: the intel wireless driver.
[04:42] <paradise> Ralesk i try but not usfel
[04:42] <soccermike1337> i have the driver tgz or whatever it is from intel for linux
[04:42] <soccermike1337> but im not sure how to compile it and stuff
[04:42] <DrOnline> soccermike1337: it should already exist as a module on your system.
[04:42] <soccermike1337> oh
[04:42] <Ralesk> paradise: it looks weird that you have references to something like /s/hd/whatever... I've never seen such directory before in my life
[04:42] <soccermike1337> how do i enable it?
[04:42] <enoj> In the vim installed in my kubuntu system, ":syn on" doesn't work .. tells me the command is not available .. why ?
[04:43] <DrOnline> soccermike: "modprobe ipw3945" (assuming that's the right card)
[04:43] <paradise> Ralesk emmmmmmmmmm
[04:43] <arash> paradise, start the K -> system -> systemawatcher
[04:43] <soccermike1337> yes it is :P
[04:43] <arash> there look if ntfs-3g configuaration is already running, terminate it, it might stopping u form using it
[04:43] <soccermike1337> so i hit alt+f2 and type in modprobe ipw3945?
[04:43] <paradise> arash what a sys ?
[04:43] <Luismi> how i can change desktop with keyboard?
[04:44] <DrOnline> soccermike1337: you'll have to use sudo: "sudo modprobe ipw3945"
[04:44] <arash> paradise:  'ksysguard' then look over processes
[04:44] <DrOnline> soccermike1337: but yes, that's the gist of it
[04:44] <paradise> arash ok
[04:44] <Ralesk> oh ar.  the last line in your fstab, paradise...  take out the utf8 part, and write into the ,-separated options: locale=en_US.utf-8
[04:45] <Ralesk> I'll paste the correct line in a sec
[04:45] <llutz> Luismi: ctrl-F1-x
[04:45] <arash> paradise, hmm, I think Ralesk can help you better ;)
[04:45] <Ralesk> /dev/sdb1   /mnt/Part1   user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000,locale=en_US.utf-8   0   0
[04:45] <paradise> Ralesk ok i will try
[04:45] <paradise> wait
[04:46] <bebege> can anyone andwer this, foes viruses have effect on Linux?
[04:46] <bebege> does*
[04:46] <paradise> Ralesk ok done
[04:46] <Ralesk> paradise: or anyway, type first "locale" in the shell and tell me what stands after any of the LC_somethings.
[04:46] <llutz> !virus | bebege
[04:46] <ubotu> bebege: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[04:46] <paradise> Ralesk i change it
[04:46] <arash> bebege , the reply by ubotu is actually the best one probably
[04:46] <paradise> Ralesk and what else ?
[04:46] <Ralesk> goody, work?
[04:47] <bebege> yea...
[04:47] <Ralesk> paradise: what does your locale say, just to check?
[04:48] <paradise> Ralesk nothing just do this and click ctrl+o
[04:49] <Ralesk> what's ctrl+O? :)
[04:49] <paradise> Ralesk to save what i do
[04:49] <Ralesk> ah
[04:49] <paradise> Ralesk nano -w /etc/fstab
[04:49] <Ralesk> could you please tell me one line from the output of the locale command?
[04:49] <boguh> is the konquerer view profile still a modified profile compared to the kde standard profile?
[04:49] <paradise> Ralesk and do what u say
[04:49] <BluesKaj> !viruses | bebege
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about viruses - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <bebege> does anyone know if alcohol works with Linux? if not, you know any alternative software?
[04:50] <BluesKaj> !virus | bebege
[04:50] <ubotu> bebege: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[04:50] <paradise> Ralesk hmm i don`t understand :X
[04:50] <Ralesk> open konsole
[04:50] <Ralesk> and write: locale
[04:50] <paradise> Ralesk ok
[04:50] <Ralesk> tell me one -- any -- line of its output
[04:51] <paradise> Ralesk aha wait
[04:51] <BluesKaj> bebege,  making ISO files ?
[04:51] <paradise> Ralesk http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36188/
[04:52] <paradise> Ralesk hmm
[04:52] <Ralesk> thanks
[04:52] <llutz> alcohol works OS-independent... :)
[04:52] <paradise> Ralesk u are welcome
[04:52] <Ralesk> then we wrote the right locale in your fstab, that's good
[04:52] <paradise> Ralesk :D
[04:52] <paradise> Ralesk i here great sound :P
[04:53] <arash> lol, did Ralesk thanks and paradise say 'u are welcome' :p? what happend here ^^ ?
[04:53] <paradise> LoooooooooooooooooooooooooooL
[04:53] <Ralesk> my problem with your fstab is lines 13 to 15 --- I particularly don't get that magic there
[04:53] <BluesKaj> really llutz ... never liked that app ... too clunky
[04:53] <paradise> Ralesk Hmmmmmmmmmm
[04:53] <llutz> BluesKaj: i mean fluid alcohol ;)
[04:53] <llutz> BluesKaj: i don't know an app with that name
[04:54] <Ralesk> is Alcohol this iso-mounting fake cdrom drive creating software?
[04:54] <bebege> yea....
[04:54] <BluesKaj> ok llutz , the clunky part come later :)
[04:54] <Ralesk> llutz: :))
[04:54] <bebege> that's it....
[04:54] <llutz> loop-mount the iso files should do
[04:54] <Ralesk> bebege: I don't know any linux alternatives, but a google search could bring up a few
[04:54] <BluesKaj> errr comes later
[04:54] <paradise> Ralesk wait
[04:54] <bebege> cool......
[04:55] <BluesKaj> there are some iso maker apps for linux
[04:55] <BluesKaj> Kiso for one
[04:55] <Ralesk> on windows I always used another program, but I can't remember the name right now x.X
[04:55] <paradise> Ralesk loooooooooooool /s/hd i do it
[04:55] <llutz> dd, cat, readcd
[04:55] <paradise> Ralesk loooooooooooool  i enter a sys > disk > and do it !
[04:56] <Ralesk> paradise: I think I don't understand ^^;
[04:56] <paradise> Ralesk loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
[04:56] <llutz> paradise: your keyboard is broken
[04:56] <paradise> Ralesk  no my english is broken
[04:56] <BluesKaj> alcohol 120% is old clunky software , even on windows
[04:57] <Ralesk> GAH, I hate when I can't remember something x.x
[04:57] <Ralesk> I think that other software starts with a D  o.o
[04:58] <Ralesk> anyway, paradise: ummmm, so those lines are... you wrote them in fstab, trying to get something to work?
[04:58] <paradise> Ralesk  k > system setting > advanced > disk & filesystem and i do /s/hd mount to some partion
[04:58] <Ralesk> ah
[04:58] <paradise> Ralesk  im new in linux :S
[04:59] <Ralesk> I have certainly never heard of a device that's called /s/hd :)
[04:59] <Ralesk> does it even work? :)
[04:59] <paradise> Ralesk  no
[04:59] <Ralesk> okay, I was scared for a moment that it would, lol
[04:59] <paradise> Ralesk lol
[04:59] <Ralesk> just delete those three lines with /s/hd in them
[04:59] <bebege> BluesKaj is kiso good? do you use it?
[04:59] <Ralesk> they're bollocks
[05:00] <paradise> Ralesk okk
[05:00] <paradise> Ralesk wait
[05:00] <Ralesk> wait
[05:00] <Ralesk> line 12.
[05:00] <BluesKaj> yes to both questions bebege
[05:00] <Ralesk> no crap, 13 XD
[05:00] <paradise> Ralesk ok ok
[05:01] <paradise> Ralesk any /s/hd
[05:01] <bebege> you use it from konsole, or is it comand line based?
[05:01] <Ralesk> paradise: wait, I'll correct the fstab on pastebin
[05:01] <paradise> Ralesk ok ok
 you use it from konsole, or is it comand line based?
[05:02] <Ralesk> bebege: that question doesn't make sense
[05:03] <bebege> how come?
[05:03] <BluesKaj> bebege, the first time you use it from the cli as sudo, then afterwards from the gui
[05:03] <bebege> oh zeen...
[05:03] <Ralesk> because konsole is... the command line :)))
[05:03] <bebege> oops.... my bad....
[05:03] <Ralesk> :)
[05:03] <Ralesk> paradise: what kind of file system is on /dev/hda5 ?
[05:04] <BluesKaj> bebege, it will be located in the k-menu/utilities
[05:04] <bebege> I'm pretty new to linux, I only installed linux over the weekend....
[05:04] <paradise> Ralesk this a file system :|
[05:04] <bebege> so, I'm just learninnn' here....
[05:04] <berkes> suddenly my kmail 'lags' enomously. It sits, idling, for 20 secs or more. Yet the load is not hight at all. Nor is kmail (ab)using the CPU;
[05:04] <berkes> anyone ever encoutered a similar issue?
[05:05] <paradise> Ralesk swap
[05:05] <berkes> it looks as if kmail waits for some dcop call to return a value or so
[05:05] <Ralesk> hmm
[05:05] <paradise> Ralesk hmm
[05:06] <Ralesk> but you already have a /dev/sda5 entry for swap...
[05:06] <paradise> Ralesk h,mmm
[05:07] <Ralesk> berkes: well, I'm using gutsy right now (because I love living on the edge) and something I noticed is kmail opening hundreds of kio-pop3 processes and effectively killing the system after a while -- of course this may not apply to you
[05:07] <paradise> Ralesk i will misstake when i install linux :(
[05:07] <Ralesk> paradise: open konsole and write: mount  -------- then pastebin its output please
[05:07] <paradise> Ralesk ol
[05:07] <paradise> Ralesk ok
[05:07] <berkes> Ralesk: well, the thing is, kmail does not use any resources while idling.
[05:08] <berkes> It just hangs.
[05:08] <Ralesk> Someone please try to think about my initial question? :)  >> I have my windows fonts installed and a few of them (particularly the otherwise excellent Lucida Sans Unicode) don't seem to come with bold versions -- how can I get Konqueror to fakebold/fakeitalicise all the fonts that miss such versions?  Firefox gets it right, but that might be because of Pango.
[05:08] <Ralesk> berkes: ah, I see
[05:08] <berkes> It hangs so bad that closing it results in the KDE window asking me I I want it killed.
[05:08] <crazy_bus> what's the difference between the commands halt and poweroff?
[05:08] <berkes> but the weird part is that it uses effectively no CPU at all.
[05:09] <paradise> Ralesk http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36191/
[05:10] <paradise> Ralesk im sorry to make u tierd
[05:10] <Ralesk> ah, indeed no swap
[05:11] <paradise> Ralesk hmmm
[05:13] <berkes> aah. Found it. somehow kolab was toggled on in settings, but I have no kolab server. So it waited for the server, till it timed out.
[05:14] <Ralesk> paradise: I'd like the output of: sudo parted /dev/sda print
[05:15] <paradise> Ralesk ok wait
[05:15] <paradise> Ralesk http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36195/
[05:16] <Ralesk> excellent
[05:16] <paradise> Ralesk :D
[05:18] <Ralesk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36196/ -- try this fstab > paradise
[05:18] <Ralesk> anyway, I bbl, food time
[05:18] <Fusion`^> hi. how do i take a screenschot of the shift switcher in action? thanks
[05:18] <cbtis155> COMO SACO LA DIRECCION IP DE MI MAQUINA
[05:19] <paradise> Ralesk ok wait
[05:19] <cbtis155> HEY
[05:19] <cbtis155> PELENME
[05:19] <cbtis155> O QUE NO ABLAN ESPANOL
[05:20] <llutz> !es | cbtis155
[05:20] <ubotu> cbtis155: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:21] <paradise> Ralesk ok i will
[05:21] <paradise> Ralesk thin
[05:22] <paradise> Ralesk hmmm
[05:23] <Kotenok> Hi!
[05:24] <Kotenok> need some support help
[05:24] <Kotenok> somebody can give me some advices?
[05:24] <paradise> hmm wait them
[05:24] <paradise> i wait them too
[05:25] <Kotenok> shit
[05:25] <Kotenok> :P
[05:25] <paradise> lol
[05:25] <Jucato> !language | Kotenok
[05:25] <ubotu> Kotenok: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:25] <paradise> what ur problem ?
[05:25] <Phoenix_Fire> hello
[05:25] <Jucato> !somebody
[05:25] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:25] <Kotenok> I'm with problems after the installation of kubuntu
[05:25] <paradise> hello 2
[05:26] <paradise> hmm
[05:26] <Kotenok> the grub doesn't launch anytime
[05:26] <vistakiller> why?
[05:26] <paradise> lool
[05:26] <vistakiller> kotenok why?
[05:26] <Kotenok> already did 3 times the install
[05:26] <vistakiller> after update?
[05:26] <paradise> im new in linux
[05:26] <vistakiller> ok try to install it from alternate live cd
[05:26] <Kotenok> I recovered windows activating the partition in the mbr
[05:26] <Jucato> Kotenok: what happens when you restart after installing?
[05:26] <paradise> just one week ago
[05:26] <Kotenok> but linux doesn't appear nowhere?
[05:27] <vistakiller> the grub always install in your primary hard disk
[05:27] <Jucato> !es
[05:27] <Phoenix_Fire> i have some problem with kaffeine 0.8.6svn. and the xinePart, if i would watch a tv channel, kaffeine says, there is no XinePart
[05:27] <Kotenok> well message is in spanish " there is no operating system found"
[05:27] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:27] <Kotenok> something like grub didn't appear in the active partition as boot loader
[05:27] <juan_> i want to recover files i lost when i was messing around with my home partition, can anybody recomend a good foresnic tool?or guide?
[05:27] <Kotenok> I don't know
[05:27] <Kotenok> I wanted to try linux by kubuntu
[05:27] <Kotenok> annd this is a bad surprise
[05:28] <Kotenok> I see, but nothing launch there
[05:28] <paradise> Ralesk where are u
[05:28] <paradise> duuh
[05:28] <vistakiller> you try to install it in the same disk with windows?
[05:28] <paradise> this os is scary !!
[05:28] <Kotenok> no, in an ext3 partition
[05:28] <paradise> i dont understand any things
[05:28] <Kotenok> after the windows partition
[05:28] <Jucato> Kotenok: you could also try the Spanish channels if you want
[05:29] <Kotenok> in serial ata
[05:29] <vistakiller> in the same hard disk?
[05:29] <Kotenok> so sda(0,1)
[05:29] <paradise> vistakiller can u help me ?
[05:29] <Kotenok> in spanish chanel there are all sleeping
[05:29] <Kotenok> I understand well english
[05:29] <juan_> Kotenok: all hard drives are hd in grub
[05:29] <Kotenok> in the same hard disk
[05:29] <Kotenok> i did the partitions beforehand with partition magic
[05:29] <Kotenok> in xp
[05:30] <vistakiller> how many hard disk you have in your system?
[05:30] <Turazoor> can someone tell me the lib i need to install for restricted media i.e. MP3 support?
[05:30] <Kotenok> only 2
[05:30] <Kotenok> one dedicated to documents
[05:30] <vistakiller> which is the primary?
[05:30] <Kotenok> another for systems
[05:30] <Jucato> Turazoor: libxine-extracodecs
[05:30] <vistakiller> and both is sata?
[05:30] <juan_> there should be a file called mapper in /boot/grub it will tell you the grub name foe a linux name partition
[05:30] <Turazoor> Jucato: cheers
[05:30] <Phoenix_Fire> turazoor, lame
[05:30] <Kotenok> serial ata is the primary
[05:30] <bXi> man libxine is annoying
[05:30] <Kotenok> the other one is ide
[05:30] <Kotenok> not very good working
[05:30] <bXi> it triggers my highlight
[05:31] <Jucato> Phoenix_Fire: that's for encoding. where did you get kaffeine svn?
[05:31] <Kotenok> vistakiller: any suggestion?
[05:31] <Turazoor> Phoenix_Fire: lame?
[05:31] <vistakiller> wait a minute
[05:31] <Jucato> Turazoor: LAME = Lame Ain't an MP3 Encoder
[05:31] <Kotenok> with pleasure if I get a good idea ;)
[05:32] <Jucato> Turazoor: it's basically an MP3 encoder :)
[05:32] <Turazoor> Jucato: sweet lol
[05:32] <Jucato> Turazoor: you only need it for making mp3, not playing them
[05:32] <Jucato> hence. "encoding"
[05:33] <Kotenok> the challenge to instal dual boot hehe
[05:33] <Turazoor> ok further question seeing as #networking aren't answering, anyone know why i can see my win xp shares but when i goto look the other (win xp to ubuntu 7.04) i get prompted for a username and password
[05:33] <Jucato> Kotenok: not sure why you're having problems though. I always install with a dual boot and had no problems. sorry couldn't help
[05:34] <Kotenok> well, I'm maybe with trouble at what to do with logical partition or primary
[05:34] <vistakiller> the problem i think is tha the grub is think that ubuntu is to other partition
[05:34] <Kotenok> but tryied already several times
[05:34] <vistakiller> from this that have you install it
[05:34] <Ralesk> paradise: I'm back now
[05:34] <Jucato> !info kaffeine-xine | Phoenix_Fire
[05:34] <ubotu> phoenix_fire: kaffeine-xine: Xine engine for kaffeine media player. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 198 kB, installed size 596 kB
[05:35] <Kotenok> and fu...ng message of that there is no system appear
[05:35] <vistakiller> the solution is to edit the grub file
[05:35] <Kotenok> aha
[05:35] <Kotenok> and how is what I can-t know_
[05:35] <Kotenok> well, some tutorial_
[05:35] <Kotenok> ?
[05:36] <vistakiller> wait i will look
[05:36] <Kotenok> just with previos distributions while I was studding linux was not a trouble, but kubuntu looks the best :)
[05:37] <vistakiller> and is the best
[05:37] <Kotenok> so it means after install kubuntu, don't lose the calm
[05:37] <michel> hello everyone... I am new to this linux thing and I was wondering if there were any good how to linux websites out there for kubuntu... Thanks...
[05:37] <Kotenok> edit grub and will work?
[05:37] <Kotenok> yes, looks logic
[05:37] <Phoenix_Fire> ubotu, but i have installed kaffeine 0.8.6svn
[05:38] <jhutchins> michel: There's a lot of stuff on the ubuntu web pages, especially the wiki, and there's http://tldp.org for more general knowledge.
[05:38] <waylandbill> michel: http://linuxbasics.org is a good starting place for learning the underlying system behind the desktop
[05:38] <michel> oh and i am switching from Vista to Kubuntu...
[05:38] <Kotenok> great idea!
[05:38] <Kotenok> ;)
[05:38] <michel> waylandbill: thanks... I will look at it right now
[05:38] <Jucato> !ubotu | Phoenix_Fire
[05:38] <ubotu> Phoenix_Fire: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:38] <jhutchins> michel: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
[05:39] <michel> jhutchins: thanks...
[05:39] <vistakiller> yes and try to set another disk for your linux
[05:39] <vistakiller> i dont know how you can edit grub
[05:40] <Kotenok> well, as I had expirience in the red hat, somebody can tell me there is also some similar microsoft commands in shell from kubuntu?
[05:40] <vistakiller> i think you must use your live cd and do it
[05:40] <Kotenok> i'll do
[05:40] <Kotenok> but the way is what I don't know
[05:40] <kkathman> edit grub by using sudo kate and edit /boot/grub/menu.list
[05:40] <Kotenok> how to enter to it?
[05:40] <kkathman> I think thats it
[05:40] <Jucato> kdesu kate
[05:40] <jhutchins> Kotenok: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
[05:40] <Kotenok> sudo kate... it's a texxt editor?
[05:40] <kkathman> menu.lst I mean
[05:40] <kkathman> not list
[05:41] <Kotenok> fine :)
[05:41] <Jucato> Kotenok: kate is the text editor
[05:41] <Kotenok> thanks for the website
[05:41] <waylandbill> Kotenok: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/unix_for_dos_users.html
[05:41] <kkathman> but you need to knw what yer doin
[05:41] <Kotenok> I imagine
[05:41] <Kotenok> anyway
[05:41] <Kotenok> always can rollback activating win partition again
[05:41] <paradise> baaaack
[05:41] <Ralesk> wb
[05:42] <Ralesk> how did the fstab changing go?
[05:42] <Kotenok> I imagine that gnome don't know where is the kubuntu really
[05:42] <Kotenok> but it's very strange
[05:42] <Kotenok> I mean
[05:42] <Ralesk> Kotenok: I don't particularly understand what you just said, to be honest
[05:42] <gridl0ck> kotenok, reboot with your win cd and run a repair to restore your win mbr
[05:42] <gridl0ck> might make your life easier
[05:42] <Kotenok> kubuntu just installed, the manager choosed a partition and grub doesn't take this information?
[05:42] <paradise> Relesk i restart thin nothing a mount in desktop and not found now
[05:43] <Kotenok> well, there is better way to use the win cd
[05:43] <gridl0ck> kotenok, also read up on how to dual boot to kubuntu
[05:43] <Kotenok> just boot editors
[05:43] <Kotenok> that can repair the mbr
[05:43] <Kotenok> I did
[05:43] <gridl0ck> you could use erd 2005
[05:43] <Kotenok> but they don't talk about suposed problems
[05:43] <paradise> Relesk that problem is not solve :(
[05:44] <waylandbill> Kotenok: windows cd? my dog liked it as a frisbee for a day. :)
[05:44] <Ralesk> paradise: pastebin the output of "mount" again please
[05:44] <Phoenix_Fire> i have often the problem, that the passwort windows is missing and the application like adept-manager hangs, has any one the same problem? (i use kubuntu x64)
[05:44] <Angelus> lol!! waylandbill
[05:44] <paradise> Ralesk ok
[05:44] <Kotenok> well with cd's can do what want, but say him not to lick it
[05:44] <Kotenok> can get cancer
[05:44] <Angelus> yeah, or virus in his intestines
[05:44] <waylandbill> :)
[05:44] <paradise> Ralesk what a wep site ?
[05:45] <Ralesk> still http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ :)
[05:45] <Kotenok> well, let's write down how to edit grub file
[05:45] <Angelus> kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.1st
[05:45] <Angelus> *.lst
[05:45] <Angelus> :/
[05:46] <Kotenok> thanks
[05:46] <paradise> Ralesk http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36199/
[05:47] <Ralesk> hmm, does "mount -a" say anything?
[05:47] <paradise> Ralesk wait
[05:47] <Brioche> heelo
[05:48] <Kotenok> well, let's launch live cd
[05:48] <paradise> Ralesk http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36200/ this
[05:48] <Kotenok> is something happen will appear
[05:48] <Kotenok> see you all !
[05:48] <Kotenok> thanks for the advices
[05:48] <Kotenok> vistakiller: thanks, hope to edit the grub file propperly
[05:48] <Ralesk> paradise: then I believe you know what to do ^_^
[05:48] <Brioche> I'm looking for an idea to show a webpage on the desktop (with superkaramba ... ?)
[05:49] <vistakiller> ok bye :)
[05:49] <Ralesk> go boot to windows and have it clean it up; after that you'll be able to mount the partition in linux
[05:49] <paradise> Ralesk what ?
[05:49] <paradise> Ralesk how ?
[05:51] <paradise> Ralesk :| how i clean ?
[05:51] <Ralesk> what how?  Just boot your windows -- if there's something bad on the ntfs drive, it should fix it on its own (or in worst case you'll have to chkdsk it)
[05:51] <Ralesk> sorry, takes a while to type :P
[05:51] <paradise> Ralesk looooooool
[05:51] <paradise> Ralesk no how to boot my windows
[05:51] <paradise> Ralesk or how i clean ?
[05:52] <Phoenix_Fire> cya
[05:52] <Brioche> is there someone to help me .... ?
[05:52] <paradise> Ralesk i tell u im new in linux just one week
[05:52] <Perseid> Hi. I upgraded to Feisty and now my Audigy has no audio.
[05:52] <paradise> Ralesk or 5 days
[05:52] <Ralesk> well, no idea -- I thought you had both windows and linux on your computer
[05:53] <paradise> Ralesk nooooooooooo
[05:53] <paradise> Ralesk just linux
[05:53] <Ralesk> ah
[05:53] <Ralesk> well, then
[05:53] <paradise> Ralesk idon`t like windows many problem
[05:53] <bebege> people, anyone here can tell me how to install the damn Kiso? I got it in tarball formatt...
[05:53] <Ralesk> plenty enough problems with linux too XD
[05:54] <Ralesk> anyway
[05:54] <paradise> Ralesk yes
[05:54] <TunaTom> bebege: have you ever compiled anything from source?
[05:54] <llutz> bebege: sudo aptitude install kiso
[05:54] <Ralesk> I don't know this "ntfsfix" software, so other than telling you to try it, read its manual... I can't say anything
[05:54] <paradise> Ralesk hmmmmmmmmm
[05:54] <Ralesk> do you want to write to the ntfs partition, anyway?
[05:54] <paradise> Ralesk i will try
[05:55] <paradise> Ralesk no i want read my hd
[05:55] <Ralesk> only read then
[05:55] <Ralesk> okay
[05:55] <Ralesk> open your fstab
[05:55] <paradise> Ralesk ok
[05:55] <Ralesk> and in the line that mounts the ntfs partition (the last line), replace rw with ro
[05:56] <Ralesk> then you should be fine without ntfsfix
[05:56] <Perseid> It may or may not be related but I also have a broken package. ia32-libs won't install because libaudio.so.2.4 is aleady in ia32-libs-openoffice.org
[05:56] <paradise> Ralesk /dev/sdb1   /mnt/Part1   ntfs-3g   user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0  this ?
[05:57] <Ralesk> that line, yes
[05:57] <benpicco> hi, I have a problem getting my printer rpinting, I always get the error "E [03/Sep/2007:17:51:33 +0200]  Unable to open job control file "/var/spool/cups/c00012" - Permission denied!" in the error_log
[05:57] <Ralesk> /dev/sdb1   /mnt/Part1   ntfs-3g   user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000,ro   0   0   <-- correct version
[05:57] <Brioche> .. a plus tard !
[05:58] <paradise> Ralesk ok thin i restert a
[05:59] <paradise> Ralesk what this command for ? kdesu konqueror media:/ ?
[06:00] <Ralesk> opens media:/ in konqueror, but asks for the superuser password before
[06:00] <paradise> Ralesk i know
[06:00] <Ralesk> then, why did you ask?
[06:01] <paradise> Ralesk when i mount i click in the drive so tell me access denid then i search for fix a problem it tell me use this command
[06:01] <Ralesk> Retry #3  >> I have my windows fonts installed here in Kubuntu and a few of them (particularly the otherwise excellent Lucida Sans Unicode) don't seem to come with bold versions -- how can I get Konqueror to fakebold/fakeitalicise all the fonts that miss such versions?  Firefox gets it right, but that might be because of Pango.
[06:01] <Ralesk> paradise: oh
[06:02] <Ralesk> wait a sec then
[06:02] <paradise> Ralesk ok :|
[06:02] <bebege> thanks guys....
[06:03] <bebege> the sudo apt-get install worked....
[06:03] <llutz> bebege: always try to use apps from the repos before using 3rd party or tarballs
[06:03] <paradise> Ralesk i can`t
[06:03] <paradise> Ralesk i must register
[06:04] <paradise> Ralesk wait for register
[06:04] <bebege> yea....
[06:04] <bebege> I just didn't know that Kiso would have been there....
[06:04] <llutz> bebege: aptitude search <search-pattern>
[06:04] <Ralesk> not on IRC, dude :)   and reply in the priv msg window, not on the channel
[06:04] <drmartins> Linux the best:)
[06:05] <drmartins> hi all)
[06:08] <bebege> how comes kiso can't create images of audio cds?
[06:09] <llutz> bebege: that wouldn't make sense, use ripped wavs instead
[06:11] <bebege> does that create images?
[06:11] <bebege> like ISO images...
[06:11] <thorns> I need to report a bug for kwalletmanager on Gutsy. How do I get about that? kwalletmanager is not registered in the list of packages.
[06:12] <Biovore> you can do and ISO wit the following..   dd if=/dev/<cdrom> of=/home/<username>/file.iso
[06:12] <Biovore> thorns: try lunchpad
[06:12] <Biovore> !lunchpad
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lunchpad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <llutz> bebege: audio-cd don't contain an iso-filesystem so you can't make iso from them. ripp your cds to wav/ogg/mp3/flac or whatsoever
[06:12] <thorns> Biovore: That's what I'm saying, the package is not listed
[06:13] <Biovore> thorns: whats the bug with kwalletmanager?>
[06:13] <thorns> Folders like "share" and "env" get created in my ~/. Anyone ever experienced that?
[06:13] <thorns> Biovore: up ^
[06:13] <Biovore> yeah.. I have noticed thoses problems as well
[06:13] <thorns> And also
[06:13] <thorns> share gets created for gtk themes
[06:13] <Biovore> yup
[06:14] <Biovore> and kmenuedit is borked out of the box as well
[06:14] <ymsg> yup yup
[06:14] <Biovore> there are a list of them..
[06:14] <ymsg> yup yop yup
[06:14] <thorns> It was created after I installed a GTK theme
[06:14] <ymsg> biovore yup or what
[06:14] <ymsg> yup or yup
[06:14] <Biovore> I think I'll pick yup
[06:14] <Biovore> :-P
[06:14] <thorns> So what's to do? Has this been reported?
[06:15] <ymsg> wtf this yup word
[06:15] <thorns> ymsg: it's upyours in reverse and in shorter version :D
[06:16] <thorns> If you guys know this bug, then I'm ok
[06:16] <ymsg> thorns behave
[06:16] <dhq> is there any djminxing software
[06:16] <dhq> is there any djmixing software
[06:16] <thorns> ymsg: I didn't misbehave :)
[06:16] <thorns> dhq: Yup :D
[06:17] <dhq> thorns, tell me
[06:17] <thorns> dhq: But haven't checked on them for a long time. Look at the DeMuDi, Agnula, and other studio oriented distros if you want a list of packages.
[06:18] <Biovore> thorns: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+package/kwalletmanager
[06:18] <Biovore> its part of kde-utils
[06:19] <dhq> thorns, isint it there in the repos
[06:20] <thorns> dhq: I don't know, haven't looked into Ubuntu Studio
[06:20] <dhq> thorns, well these are seprate packages
[06:21] <thorns> Biovore: but where do I report the bug, the Bugs tab is disabled
[06:22] <Biovore> thorns: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/
[06:22] <Biovore> Bugs tab not gray here..
[06:23] <Ralesk> thorns: sure you're logged in to launchpad? :)
[06:24] <thorns> Ralesk: Yes
[06:24] <Ralesk> weird
[06:24] <Biovore> can try ubuntu+1
[06:29] <BluesKaj> personally launchpad is basically just srying towel ... where are the fixes to the complaints that are posted there ...ppl want a solution , not comiserate with others that have the same problem.
[06:29] <BluesKaj> crying towel
[06:32] <kkathman> BluesKaj:  best to discuss that in #kubuntu-offtopic, not here :)
[06:33] <BluesKaj> naw kkathman , that's my rant and warning about how useless it is to complain on launchpad
[06:33] <BluesKaj> it' not offtopic IMO
[06:33] <kkathman> does very little to rant in here - best in --oftopic
[06:44] <edulix> hi
[06:44] <edulix>  which command can I use to show information about my computer? like information about the memory modules it has etc
[06:46] <Carnage\> edulix: Take a look at /proc
[06:47] <Carnage\> There are several files as /proc/cpuinfo /proc/meminfo and so on containing the information
[06:48] <edulix> Carnage\: uhm, not enough info :P
[06:51] <hayami> !pastebin
[06:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:52] <hayami> hi i have a problem with frostwire can anyone help me?
[06:55] <bebege> what problem you havin'?
[06:56] <hayami> this man
[06:56] <hayami> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36207/
[06:57] <hayami> at first i initialized with the frontend but nothing happened, then y did it in console and that's wath appeared
[06:58] <bebege> I had that problem....
[06:59] <bebege> you need Java webstart 6
[06:59] <bebege> sudo apt-get install javawebstart6
[07:01] <NickPresta> hayami, I also advise you not to run something like Frostwire as root. There is no reason to.
[07:01] <nosrednaekim> 0.o
[07:01] <hayami> =o
[07:02] <hayami> thanks both friends!
[07:03] <danielronin> hi, can anyone here tell me what i need to do to open a listening port for azureus?
[07:03] <NickPresta> !ports | danielronin
[07:03] <ubotu> danielronin: For instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall
[07:04] <kkathman> danielronin:  typically its a matter of addressing your router/firewall and just opening those ports
[07:04] <danielronin> NickPresta: thanks
[07:04] <kkathman> danielronin:  you'll also have to set those ports in azurues of course :)
[07:06] <danielronin> what kind of firewall does a vanilla install of kubuntu feisty use by default?
[07:06] <llutz> danielronin: none at all
[07:07] <NickPresta> danielronin, I believe it doesn't have any "on" but there are iptables if you want to use them
[07:09] <danielronin> strange that the router's blocking listen ports from this computer, a desktop behind the same router works fine
[07:09] <danielronin> i'll have to poke arond abit, thanks for the info guys :)
[07:10] <bigdave> Hi all!  Does anybody know how I can move my Kubuntu Desktop install from one HD (failing) to a new one without having to reinstall everything?
[07:10] <llutz> danielronin: maybe the other pc uses upnp
[07:11] <bigdave> Would a cp -vax from one to the other (and a GRUB reinstall) work?
[07:12] <llutz> bigdave: do it from a live-cd, cp -a should do it
[07:12] <bigdave> Okay thanks!  You rock! :)
[07:18] <bigdave> llutz:  Do I need the -x to avoid it from copying data that's really remotely mounted NFS shares?
[07:19] <llutz> bigdave: that why i recommend a live-cd to copy. no mounts, no problems :) but -x would work if mounts are there
[07:20] <bigdave> Oh yes, that's right -- they wouldn't be there with the Live CD -- <my duh!>  Thanks again for all the help!
[07:33] <halohunter> hello
[07:33] <halohunter> can some one help me
[07:33] <NickPresta> !ask | halohunter
[07:33] <ubotu> halohunter: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:33] <halohunter> i need help with setting up team speak on my cpu
[07:34] <bebege> what problem are you havin'?
[07:35] <halohunter> my mic set don't work
[07:36] <halohunter> its an a4 type model HS50
[07:36] <Biovore> halohunter: what sound card you got?
[07:36] <halohunter> its an a4 type model HS-50
[07:37] <halohunter> wait 1 sec
[07:37] <halohunter>  nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio
[07:38] <Biovore> halohunter: you trying to tun UT and TeamSpeak at the same time?
[07:38] <halohunter> whats UT
[07:38] <Biovore> Unreal?
[07:38] <Biovore> or wine and some windows game?
[07:39] <halohunter> no i have got no sound to work on head set yet plugged in to front ports
[07:39] <Biovore> try the rear
[07:39] <halohunter> ok
[07:40] <Biovore> halohunter: You will probably run into problems with running 2 sound sources at once.. the nvidia sounds cards don't do pcm mixing
[07:40] <halohunter> in
[07:40] <halohunter> lame
[07:40] <Biovore> you can do software mixing if you force all your apps to use alsa
[07:41] <X2B> But what do you mean by 'mic set'?? Can't people hear you or can't you hear other people?? Is that a ts specific problem or doesn't it work in general?
[07:41] <halohunter> how do i do that
[07:41] <Biovore> else you may get werdness with only 1 app getting access to sound..
[07:41] <waylandbill> I'm trying to look at java applet in Firefox and even though aptitude says that sun-java6-jre is installed, firefox says that it's not. Is this some known issue?
[07:41] <Biovore> I use Teamspeak here on linux while playing UT2K4
[07:41] <Biovore> waylandbill: sun-java6-pluygin
[07:41] <Biovore> plugin
[07:41] <FireCrotch_> I just bought a new laptop, with an integrated wireless card, and I can't get the wireless working.  it seems as if Kubuntu doesn't even know its there
[07:42] <Biovore> FireCrotch_: lspci show it?
[07:42] <halohunter> im trying to get return to castel wolfenstein :ENEMY TERRITORY on ts
[07:42] <waylandbill> Biovore: thanks.
[07:42] <FireCrotch_> it sees it as an Unknown Ethernet Device
[07:42] <Biovore> yeah.. it can work.. but I think Enemy Territory is OSS only.. not alsa..
[07:43] <Biovore> The creative audigy cards support pcm mixing.. they have no problems..
[07:43] <halohunter> ok but i could use ts in alsa right and it would both work
[07:43] <Biovore> teamspeak dosn't do alsa eather
[07:43] <halohunter> shit
[07:43] <FireCrotch_> Biovore: I know it's an atheros-based card
[07:43] <BluesKaj> waylandbill, check for java-common and j2re1.4
[07:43] <Biovore> there is a wrapper that can wrap oss apps and emulate them to alsa..
[07:44] <Biovore> sudo apt-get install alsa-utils <-- I think
[07:44] <FireCrotch_> 06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. Unknown device 001c (rev 01)is the output from lspci concerning the wireless card, I think
[07:44] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: Biovore gave me the correct answer.
[07:44] <halohunter> but how do i do that
[07:44] <Biovore> then "aoss <application that uses oss>
[07:44] <Biovore> "
[07:44] <halohunter> that wrapper
[07:45] <BluesKaj> yeah good, waylandbill ...was on the phone ...a lil slow responding :)
[07:45] <halohunter> ok
[07:45] <Biovore> I have got that to work.. but it glitches sometimes..
[07:45] <hayami> frostwire isn't running
[07:45] <hayami> what i should do
[07:46] <Biovore> halohunter: If your going to game on linux.. your best bet is to get an audigy4 card..
[07:46] <NickPresta> hayami, what seems to be the problem?
[07:46] <Biovore> or SB live!
[07:46] <X2B> question: I am using the totem plugin with firefox to play videos, but when I am trying to play a video it is always lagging. What can I do to make it work properly??
[07:46] <Biovore> anyway I am out..
[07:46] <NickPresta> bye Biovore
[07:47] <BluesKaj> X2B, on the web or on your 'puter?
[07:47] <X2B> web... I suspect you have to set up some kind of buffer...
[07:48] <BluesKaj> X2B, install the flashplugin-nonfree for sites like youtube
[07:48] <BluesKaj> and mplayer and w32codecs for windows media
[07:49] <hcbox> Is it possible to share a network drive between two ubuntu computer
[07:49] <X2B> in that case it is not flash but DivX...
[07:50] <DexterF> hi
[07:50] <DexterF> !joystick
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joystick - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <Max-P> Who know how to install CodeBlocks on Kubuntu? I need help :(
[07:51] <BluesKaj> X2B, install ffmpeg for divx and xvid
[07:52] <DexterF> so, I got a CH Flightsick, analog, attached to a  SB 10k1. gameport module is there, 10k1_gp is there, no device tho
[07:52] <DexterF> what to do?
[07:52] <ch40s_> whats the command to open a text editor with wine?
[07:53] <Max-P> ch40s -> try "wine notepad"
[07:53] <kkathman> why would you need a text editor in wine?? lol
[07:53] <ch40s_> i dunno
[07:54] <Savak> why would you need wine lol
[07:54] <ch40s_> lol
[07:54] <ch40s_> to run pokerstars and fulltilt
[07:55] <X2B> I installed ffmpeg, but it doesn't seem to make a difference. How can I change which plugin is used within firefox??
[07:57] <kevin__> Hello
[07:58] <NickPresta> !hi | kevin__
[07:58] <ubotu> kevin__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:58] <Max-P> Can someone help me? I need help to make Code::Blocks working
[07:59] <kevin__> I just recently installed kubuntu to try it out. I've used ubuntu for a while and am used to gnome. I'm trying to d/l and change themes at kde-look.org and can't figure out where to install/setup themes. Anyone know how this works?
[08:00] <BluesKaj> X2B, in the FF addressbar type, about:plugins make sure you have the flashplugin-nonfree listed , if not install it
[08:00] <Max-P> kevin__ -> K Menu > System Configuration <-  I think it's here
[08:01] <kevin__> I have k menu > System settings, is this it?
[08:01] <Max-P> yes
[08:02] <kevin__> Max-P: ok, I go there, and there's a "look and feel" area, the appearance area can change themes but there is no obvious area to install new themes
[08:03] <X2B> so i can change the suffixes for the plugins to work differently??
[08:10] <ubuntu> hello
[08:11] <Savak> heya
[08:12] <Max-P> Can someone help me with Code::Blocks???
[08:12] <NickPresta> !ask | Max-P
[08:13] <Max-P> ?
[08:13] <carlos_> buenas, me echais una mano?
[08:13] <elite101> !ask
[08:13] <elite101> the bot is sleeping
[08:13] <elite101> !adeptfix
[08:13] <carlos_> tengo el sonido instalado y hasta ayer funcionando ...
[08:13] <carlos_> pero hoy ya no escucho nada
[08:13] <BluesKaj> !es | carlos_
[08:14] <carlos_> los parlantes estan bien conectados y funcionan
[08:14] <carlos_> el volumen esta a tope
[08:14] <elite101> the bot is broken
[08:14] <elite101> :(
[08:14] <elite101> !wakeup
[08:14] <carlos_> sorry!!!
[08:14] <elite101> !ubuntu
[08:14] <elite101> opps
[08:14] <BluesKaj> carlos #kubuntu-es
[08:14] <elite101> !ubotu
[08:16] <encom> #UBUNTU-ES
[08:17] <Max-P> Can someone help me with Code::Blocks???
[08:18] <elite101> nope
[08:18] <elite101> dont know how
[08:18] <elite101> [Whois]  ubotu has been idle for 12 minutes and 34 seconds.
[08:19] <Max-P> I got an error: (codeblocks:6416): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_window_realize_icon: assertion `info->icon_pixmap == NULL' failed
[08:19] <elite101> what are code::blocks?
[08:19] <dthacker> Max-P: perl module?
[08:19] <BluesKaj> Max-P, what were you doing when the error happened ?
[08:19] <runlevelten> isser IDE innit.
[08:19] <Max-P> Nothing
[08:19] <Max-P> I started Code::Blocks
[08:19] <Max-P> and
[08:20] <Max-P> got the error
[08:20] <Max-P> I think it's the "Tip of the Day" box
[08:21] <meuhlol> please someone know how to restore GRUB? After PC reboot my grub tell me Error 15 - File not found
[08:22] <Savak> meuhlol - you got grub recovery disk?
[08:22] <NickPresta> meuhlol, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:25] <elite101> hey school starts tomarrow *time to bring a copy of Kubuntu to school and install it on my Computer @ school :P*
[08:25] <ich> hallo
[08:25] <meuhlol> Savak no
[08:25] <NickPresta> elite101, I did that and they tried to suspend me for putting a "virus" on the computer. Lucky the VP knew of "u boon toe". hehe
[08:26] <elite101> lol
[08:26] <elite101> i will do it thou
[08:26] <elite101> i play halo in class lol sometimes
[08:26] <elite101> with my friends Halo1demo
[08:27] <elite101> my HDD is 70gig its on a server @ school that thecomputers access i wil make a partition and then this way i can boot off it
[08:27] <elite101> so Kubuntu will be installed on the HDD and i can access the Kubuntu from anycomputer around the school with my User/pass
[08:28] <Savak> your school networks must suck to let you do that lol
[08:29] <elite101> lol yes
[08:29] <elite101> they dont execpt you to learn about computers
[08:29] <elite101> i can outsmart the people who setit up probably they will see thou that partition *EXT3/Swap* lol
[08:29] <elite101> the delete my halo1.exe so i hid it in teachers docuements
[08:29] <elite101> they*
[08:30] <Savak> lol thats so lax
[08:30] <Arwen> !offtopic
[08:30] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:30] <Arwen> stupid talk goes to offtopic please
[08:30] <Savak> eye eye! :P
[08:30] <elite101> alreite
[08:30] <elite101> alrite*
[08:30] <NickPresta> elite101, I don't know how your school works but my school board has a strict policy. Any tempering with the computers (formatting, etc, etc) and you're suspended for vandalism. Something to keep in mind...
[08:30] <elite101> mhm i should ask the school to partitipate in linux
[08:31] <elite101> lol
[08:31] <NickPresta> !botsnack
[08:31] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[08:31] <NickPresta> yay.
[08:32] <elite101> i will remember they use a program called netsupport school pro its so made for windows it monitors Internet exlporer and not firefoxi found this out lol myspace/downloads for mee* i use firefox they think im on a *google page on IE* lol there so dumb*
[08:32] <Arwen> *sigh*...
[08:32] <elite101> sorry*
[08:32] <NickPresta> yes, !offtopic. we will stop :)
[08:32] <elite101> im going to off-topic now*
[08:32] <alberto> ciao
[08:33] <alberto> ce qualcuno che parla italiano?
[08:33] <NickPresta> !it | alberto
[08:33] <ubotu> alberto: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:33] <alberto> io sono su ubunto
[08:33] <AlexGuapo85> ey
[08:34] <AlexGuapo85> pando beta its ready for linux !
[08:34] <alberto> scusa mi puoi dire come faccio a cambiare la consonante Y con z
[08:35] <NickPresta> alberto, I only caught some of that (I know minimal italian) but you should really go to #kubuntu-it. They can help you better.
[08:36] <alberto> ciao a tutti
[08:37] <elite101>  what is a free program in windows to run Kubuntu on the desktop?
[08:37] <Arwen> VMWare?
[08:37] <Arwen> but why?
[08:37] <NickPresta> !it | alberto
[08:37] <ubotu> alberto: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:37] <alberto> siiii sono su ubuntu
[08:37] <elite101> Arwen, for school
[08:38] <NickPresta> alberto, tipo /join #kubuntu-it
[08:42] <mugwortt> hello
[08:42] <NickPresta> !hi | mugwortt
[08:42] <ubotu> mugwortt: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:42] <mugwortt> thx
[08:43] <mugwortt> is konversation the best irc client for ubuntu ?
[08:43] <mugwortt> in order to dl on xdcc and fserv
[08:45] <NickPresta> mugwortt, this is the Kubuntu channel. Kubuntu and Ubuntu are different. I assume you meant Kubuntu since you mentioned Konversation. At any rate, it depends on your needs. I really like XChat and irssi.
[08:45] <underdog5004> NickPresta, irssi doesn't depend on any gtk libs, does it?
[08:45] <mugwortt> ha it s kubuntu, sorry
[08:46] <NickPresta> underdog5004, `apt-cache showpkg irssi`. I don't believe it does, but double check.
[08:46] <mugwortt> is there french channel ?
[08:46] <NickPresta> !fr | mugwortt
[08:46] <ubotu> mugwortt: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:46] <underdog5004> NickPresta, I was just wondering, cause you said xchat and mentioned gnome...lol
[08:46] <mugwortt> really thx !!
[08:47] <mugwortt> aurevoir ^^
[08:47] <NickPresta> underdog5004, well, xchat-gnome is different than xchat, AFAIK
[08:47] <underdog5004> oh, gotcha
[08:52] <chewey> hi.
[08:53] <chewey> I'm having some trouble on Feisty with the automounter:
[08:53] <Noldoaran> I just installed a new video card and got it working, but now my sound doesn't work. (both my sound and video used the built on intel chipset before). How can I use my intel chipset for audio, but  still use the new nvidia video card? Is it possible?
[08:53] <chewey> A UDF DVD is not mounted, but I get asked what to do with en "unmounted DVD"
[08:53] <chewey> where do I have to kick to make it work?
[08:54] <soulrider_> !themes
[08:54] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[08:58] <Angelus> what Window Decoration does kubuntu use by default?
[08:59] <NickPresta> Angelus, kwin
[08:59] <Angelus> no the Window Decoration dude
[08:59] <Angelus> of the toolbar
[09:01] <gaiteru> Crystal (Angelus)
[09:01] <NickPresta> ah, sorry. I was confused
[09:01] <NickPresta> I don't know the default. Plastik > all. :)
[09:04] <dudeicles> hello folks
[09:04] <NickPresta> !hi | dudeicles
[09:04] <ubotu> dudeicles: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[09:05] <dudeicles> i'm trying to get kubuntu to mount my 2 backup hd's every boot
[09:05] <dudeicles> it's weird, sometimes they show on boot and sometimes they don't
[09:05] <dudeicles> any reasons why that would be?
[09:05] <chewey> anyone?
[09:07] <jussi01> !mount
[09:07] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:07] <NickPresta> !fstab | dudeicles
[09:07] <ubotu> dudeicles: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:08] <chewey> well duh - I know that. manually mounting the DVD (either as /dev/dcrom or as /media/... or as .../scd0 etc. doesn't work either)
[09:09] <chewey> I suspect there's something wrong/missing for UDF support (I installed udftools)
[09:09] <chewey> this however is a very fresh installation, so basically erversthing should be set to defaults
[09:09] <dudeicles> NickPresta: I went to the advanced tab of system settings and I see my hd's just it won't let me enable them there.
[09:10] <NickPresta> dudeicles, are you root?
[09:10] <dudeicles> no i'm not
[09:10] <dudeicles> i guess i should be?
[09:11] <dudeicles> lol
[09:11] <NickPresta> dudeicles, on the Disk & Filesystem screen, click on "Administrator Mode", enter your password and then try.
[09:12] <dudeicles> it won't let me.
[09:12] <dudeicles> just puts a red box around everything and only lets me choose close
[09:13] <NickPresta> dudeicles, so after you enter your password, there should be a red outline, but the window should come back and allow you to edit stuff. Does this not happen?
[09:14] <Arwen> How do I get kscreensaver to lock the screen as soon as it enters screensaver mode?
[09:14] <dudeicles> it doesn't even ask me for my password
[09:14] <contrast83> dudeicles: Close System Settings, run command: kdesu kcmshell mountconfig
[09:14] <dudeicles> k
[09:15] <contrast83> Arwen: check "Require password to stop"
[09:15] <Arwen> contrast83, I did that
[09:15] <Arwen> and it still doesn't lock
[09:15] <Arwen> I tried setting the timeout to "1"
[09:15] <Arwen> and it still doesn't lock
[09:15] <BluesKaj> dudeicles, try this in the konsole , you could have unfinished installs or removals ' sudo dpkg --configure -a '
[09:15] <contrast83> Arwen: It doesn't lock at all, or the password prompt just doesn't come up until you move the mouse?
[09:15] <Arwen> it doesn't lock at all
[09:15] <NickPresta> Arwen, it works fine for me (my timeout is 10 seconds). What happens when you lock your computer?
[09:16] <Arwen> if I hit the actual lock command it locks
[09:16] <Arwen> if I walk away and wait for kscreensaver to start, it fails to lock
[09:16] <NickPresta> arwen, let me test
[09:17] <dudeicles> contrast83: that may have worked I will reboot and let you know.
[09:17] <gaiteru> Bye bye!
[09:18] <NickPresta> Arwen, I just tried it (1 minute screensaver with 10 second timeout) and it worked flawlessly.
[09:18] <Arwen> wtf...
[09:20] <Arwen> GAH
[09:27] <rdvo1> how do i change my monitor resolution in kde????!?
[09:27] <NickPresta> !resolution | rdvo1
[09:27] <ubotu> rdvo1: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:27] <NickPresta> gah. nevermind those
[09:28] <rdvo1> My pc monitor is saying the signal is overrange, even though it isnt :\
[09:28] <rdvo1> *the resolution is too high.
[09:28] <NickPresta> rdvo1, in your KMenu, there is a System Settings application. Open it, and click on Monitor and Display. Adjust properties in there.
[09:29] <rdvo1> heh, I just installed kde on a regular ubuntu install, do you think I could've missed the package ;)
[09:30] <emilsedgh> rdvo1: go to settings:/ (from konqueror)
[09:30] <rdvo1> k
[09:30] <emilsedgh> rdvo1: then go to peripherals->monitor and display
[09:32] <rdvo1> I don't see any peripherials button :\
[09:33] <Aranel> hey, i maked a .deb package(for Western Quake 3) , and it works. How can I share it or send to ubuntu repos ?
[09:33] <emilsedgh> rdvo1: settings:/Peripherals/
[09:33] <nosrednaekim> rdvo1: if you have the space, I would reccomend just installing kubuntu-desktop
[09:34] <nosrednaekim> Aranel: www.getdeb.net
[09:34] <Arwen> !maintainer | Aranel
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about maintainer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <Arwen> !maintainers | Aranel
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about maintainers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <Arwen> ..............
[09:34] <Arwen> anyway, you would have to apply to be a maintainer
[09:34] <Aranel> Arwen: lol :)
[09:35] <rdvo1> I think I have a kubuntu cd lying around some where..
[09:35] <rdvo1> :\
[09:36] <NickPresta> Aranel, check out motu. They are responsible for package management and such.
[09:36] <mathieu__> anyone knows of a script that would replace the folder icon for every subfolders in a given location for the first image it finds in that folder (or amarok's cover for the album located at that particular folder...)?
[09:36] <Aranel> NickPresta:  Arwen: nosrednaekim: thanks :)
[09:37] <nosrednaekim> rdvo1: I don't mean reinastall.... just run "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[09:38] <hernan> saludos
[09:39] <mathieu__> or rather.. anyone knows where this setting is stored at all?
[09:39] <mathieu__> (the folder custom icon..,)
[09:39] <Repsa_Jih> in the folder file, i think?
[09:40] <mathieu__> Repsa_Jih: .DS_store?
[09:41] <Repsa_Jih> i don't know, possibly
[09:41] <mathieu__> hmm binary file
[09:42] <Repsa_Jih> is this for use with amarok?
[09:42] <Repsa_Jih> because i know of an amarok-specific script
[09:43] <mathieu__> no its for konqueror / dolphin
[09:43] <mathieu__> but i wish it could "feed" from amarok
[09:43] <Repsa_Jih> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Amarok+Folder+Icons?content=62844
[09:45] <lab> hi
[09:45] <Repsa_Jih> i think i found a solution in the source of that script, mathieu_
[09:46] <mathieu__> Repsa_Jih: ok i will look inside
[09:47] <Repsa_Jih> the function on line 171
[09:47] <Repsa_Jih> if you know a little python, you'll get it
[09:48] <Repsa_Jih> ah, i have it
[09:48] <Repsa_Jih> you just have to edit the file
[09:48] <Repsa_Jih> .directory in the directory
[09:49] <Repsa_Jih> you should add something like
[09:49] <Repsa_Jih> [Desktop Entry] 
[09:49] <mathieu__> but thats weird
[09:49] <Repsa_Jih> Icon=icon_name
[09:49] <mathieu__> I set some folders icon and I dont have a .directory
[09:50] <Repsa_Jih> hmm
[09:50] <Repsa_Jih> creating one works for mee
[09:50] <Repsa_Jih> *me
[09:52] <mathieu__>  ok thanks it works
[09:52] <droach> im having a big problem and i need help
[09:52] <mathieu__> however I still wonder where its set when doing it by the GUI
[09:52] <mathieu__> thanks
[09:52] <Repsa_Jih> no problem :)
[09:52] <rdvo1> droach: what is the problem?
[09:52] <droach> im trying to dual boot feisty and windows xp pro i install windows xp first then kubuntu, kubuntu starts fine but windows xp gets umountable boot volume
[09:53] <droach> ive searched the forums and have not found an answere
[09:53] <rdvo1> droach: how did you install feisty?
[09:53] <droach> live cd graphical resize partitions
[09:54] <rdvo1> droach: hmm.. I've never heard of a problem like this before, I dualboot with xp myself
[09:54] <ScorpKing> droach: have u tried to run chkdsk on windows? it might pick up whatever is wrong and fix it. it's a common problem on xp.
[09:55] <rdvo1> but didint he say he cant get in xp?
[09:55] <ubuntu_> hello
[09:55] <ubuntu_> i have problem with grub
[09:55] <droach> where do i run it from the windows xp installtion cd
[09:55] <Noldoaran> I'm having problems with sound, I've followed the sound troubleshooting page, but I get some errors when I use mod probe for my sound driver. see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36221/ what do these errors mean?
[09:55] <ubuntu_> after installing i got grub erorr 21
[09:55] <ScorpKing> droach: boot from the xp cd. select the first repair option to get to console.
[09:56] <droach> let me try that i will brv
[09:56] <droach> brb
[09:56] <ubuntu_> anyone know fix for gurb erorr 21 problem
[09:56] <ubuntu_>  ?
[09:56] <ScorpKing> google for that...
[09:56] <ubuntu_> yes i did that
[09:57] <ubuntu_> i found something
[09:57] <ubuntu_> on ubuntu forum
[09:57] <rdvo1> I think I had that problem in fedora core :)
[09:57] <rdvo1> Never did find a fix..
[09:57] <ubuntu_> all that i find is to try setup again a grub
[09:57] <NickPresta> ubuntu_, setup GRUB again
[09:57] <ubuntu_> but that didn't fix problem
[09:58] <NickPresta> !grub | ubuntu_
[09:58] <ubotu> ubuntu_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:58] <ScorpKing> i had it in kubuntu. think its a problem with partitions. cant remember.
[09:58] <NickPresta> ubuntu_, check the Recovering Grub link.
[09:58] <rdvo1> ubuntu_: this looks helpful, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=271505
[09:58] <ScorpKing> ubuntu_: is the boot partition active?
[09:58] <ubuntu_> yes
[09:59] <ScorpKing> mmm. dont know then.
[09:59] <ubuntu_> ok thanks for linx
[09:59] <ubuntu_> links
[09:59] <ubuntu_> i am going to chek it out
[10:01] <ScorpKing> ubuntu_: also try http://www.mepis.org/node/7330
[10:01] <vge> gotta love bad nerd humour
[10:01] <newsense> ubuntu_: using raid at all, or a mobo with onboard raid?
[10:01] <pafnutiy> hello! can anyone recommend me local net browser for linux (lanscope analog), which is downloadable in Synaptic? im new to ubuntu
[10:01] <rdvo1> firefox!!
[10:01] <rdvo1> :)
[10:01] <rdvo1> or wait...
[10:01] <rdvo1> nevermind..
[10:02] <ScorpKing> lol
[10:02] <ubuntu_> hm i dont know my mainboard is msi p965 ne
[10:02] <ubuntu_> neo
[10:02] <ubuntu_> with ide hard disk
[10:02] <pafnutiy> anyone can help?
[10:03] <rdvo1> ok I'm going to reboot into the kubuntu live cd.. brb
[10:03] <BluesKaj> pafnutiy, samba and to browse smb4k works well
[10:03] <ScorpKing> i'm kinda screwed. haha. my disk is in 2 partitions. / = 2.5gb and /home is 9gb. / only have 20mb free. can i use qtparted to resize without loosing data?
[10:04] <droach> i tried to run the chkdsk and it said--the volume appears to have one or more unrecoverable problems
[10:04] <Biovore> I use the kde thing for browsing samba
[10:04] <Biovore> our just type in smb://<machine_name>
[10:04] <ScorpKing> droach: run dskchk /F
[10:04] <BluesKaj> Biovore, what kde thing ?
[10:05] <ScorpKing> droach: sorry, chkdsk /F
[10:05] <Biovore> BluesKaj: smb:/
[10:05] <newsense> konquerer?
[10:05] <Biovore> yes..
[10:05] <droach> there is no chkdsk f only p and r
[10:05] <ScorpKing> then use p
[10:05] <droach> and i tried r (for repair and it dosent work)
[10:05] <BluesKaj> Biovore, how ?..never tried it
[10:06] <droach> neither worked
[10:06] <ScorpKing> droach: you have to tell it to repair. if you dont it wont.:)
[10:06] <Biovore> BluesKaj: open konqueror.. it come up in the front page thing.. select network folders then samba
[10:06] <ScorpKing> droach: gimme a sec
[10:06] <Biovore> BluesKaj: or just type smb:/ as the url in konqueror
[10:06] <droach> i did and it just says the same thing
[10:07] <BluesKaj> ok thx Biovore , I'll check that out
[10:08] <ScorpKing> droach: it is chkdsk /F. make sure ur on drive c:
[10:08] <Biovore> Most kde apps can handle samba like a remote filesystem..  Same with ftp and sftp..
[10:08] <droach> my bad i forgot to change the drive letter its actually H: for some odd reason
[10:08] <ScorpKing> lol
[10:08] <droach> i dont do windows very much... the only reason why im doing this is so i can play Bioshock
[10:09] <Biovore> yeah.. have to use windows for bioshock
[10:09] <ScorpKing> anyone know how to resize partitions without loosing data?
[10:09] <droach> it finished but it still says it has one or more unroverable problems
[10:09] <encom> #ubuntu-es
[10:10] <ScorpKing> droach: thats odd
[10:10] <ScorpKing> droach: try chkdsk /F /X c:
[10:10] <Biovore> its windows.. format it and reinstall..
[10:10] <Biovore> :-P
[10:11] <ScorpKing> true
[10:12] <mikko> hm, any ideas how could i get my rear speakers to work?
[10:12] <ScorpKing> plug them in. :-D
[10:12] <mikko> :P
[10:12] <NickPresta> mikko, you're going to have to elaborate. What is wrong with them?
[10:12] <droach> i had ubuntu on my machine and tryed to install windows xp second but for some reason it just kept rebooting to setup is inpecting your computers hardware even with the cd taken out...i couldnt even boot to ubuntu
[10:12] <mikko> well, im likely lacking some driver or such
[10:13] <mikko> do note, just recently installed kubuntu, not too familiar with this stuff
[10:13] <ScorpKing> droach: its because windows replaced the mbr
[10:13] <Biovore> mikko: yeah.. not all sound cards in linux can do surround..
[10:13] <dwidmann> droach: installing windows second makes things difficult, it should have been installed first.
[10:14] <NickPresta> !sound | mikko
[10:14] <mikko> Biovore: figures
[10:14] <ubotu> mikko: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:14] <newsense> !Players
[10:14] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[10:15] <droach> it didnt work god i hate windows
[10:18] <ScorpKing> droach: same message?
[10:18] <atomicpotato> emilsedgh, yeah, sure..
[10:18] <droach> another thing i have a 500 gig hdd and when i tried to install xp on it by itself it said that it was only 130 gb also, if xp is install first why is it at drive h
[10:18] <droach> yes
[10:18] <droach> same message this is such crap
[10:18] <newsense> games not an option really
[10:19] <ScorpKing> droach: try to google for that error. there is a way to restore the mbr on winxp but rather u than me.:)
[10:19] <droach> how do people use this junk on an everyday basis.. you cant even do simple stuff without problems
[10:20] <emilsedgh> newsense: I played CS, chatted in irc and browsed web with 333mhz (1-2 years ago), whats wrong with that?
[10:20] <inaety_> newsense: what are tiy running
[10:20] <inaety_> you*
[10:21] <Savak> restore mbr on xp needs 98 boot disk with fdisk
[10:21] <inaety_> droach: you can just use windows then
[10:21] <newsense> emilsedgh: i got a 550MHz
[10:21] <droach> thats what im talking about dont jump into stuff if you dont know the whole conversation
[10:22] <newsense> it aint that quick
[10:22] <ScorpKing> Savak: i dont think a fat boot disk will pick up ntfs partitions.
[10:22] <Savak> all you need to do is 'fdisk /mbr'
[10:22] <droach> inaety_:thats what im talking about dont jump into stuff if you dont know the whole conversation
[10:22] <ScorpKing> o ya. lol
[10:22] <inaety_> droach: what did i miss? that you wanted to play bioshock...
[10:22] <droach> did a fix mbr and still got the same message
[10:23] <Savak> mmm bioshock :)
[10:23] <newsense> is bioshock a first person shooter  ?
[10:24] <droach> freakin crap i cant believe people pay for that junk
[10:24] <Savak> yes newsense
[10:24] <ScorpKing> droach: about a year ago the was a virus that caused that error on about 13 machines i had to fix. i used chkdsk. not sure why it doesn't work for you. good luck. :)
[10:24] <newsense> Savak: linux game ?
[10:25] <Savak> no, unforunetly it's a 'game for windows'
[10:25] <newsense> Savak: sorry i tried to check the website out but it was too flash intensive for this slow piece a junk, lol
[10:25] <Savak> lol yeah I hate game websites
[10:25] <droach> i know its supposed to fix it ive done it a trillion times but theres always something.  freakin windows want even recognize that my drive is 500 gigs but the bios and linux does
[10:25] <droach> wont*
[10:25] <newsense> bios updatr ?
[10:25] <ScorpKing> no
[10:26] <droach> the bios and linux does
[10:26] <ScorpKing> find another game :D
[10:26] <newsense> i meant has he have th elatest bios ?
[10:26] <droach> if the bios knows its 500 gigs why should i update it
[10:26] <ScorpKing> if it used to work then it must work now.
[10:26] <newsense> could be a known issue
[10:27] <newsense> im just trying to offer a suggestion, it wouldnt hurt
[10:27] <droach> could be that windows is a piece of beetle dung
[10:27] <newsense> lol, thtas more plausable
[10:27] <ScorpKing> droach: it might also be if u have more than one primary partition. windows doen't like that.
[10:27] <ScorpKing> sure is
[10:28] <Savak> are you using raid droach?
[10:28] <droach> oh we got a smart guy in here
[10:28] <newsense> lol
[10:28] <droach> it just so happens my last name is Roach
[10:28] <ScorpKing> haha
[10:28] <droach> havent heard that one since kindergarden
[10:30] <droach> im just gonna install fiesy again run my setup scripts and forget it..i should have known not to try and soil my computer with such rubbish such as windows
[10:31] <ScorpKing> thats what i did on my laptop. never been more happy...
[10:32] <droach> im on my laptop now it has fiesty on it never have anyproblems
[10:32] <ScorpKing> only problem is i have to run dreamweaver for an asp website :(
[10:32] <droach> try to put windows xp on a more than vista compliant machine and it acts like pissed on it
[10:32] <vge> whats wrong with installing windows as seperate install?
[10:33] <droach> i was going to use one of my spare drives but there all ide and i have no ide channels on this computer except for cdrom drives :(
[10:34] <vge> i just got one free old server machine with only scaci drives, guess i have to learn how to use em someday :)
[10:35] <newsense> free machines are the best
[10:35] <ScorpKing> so true. never paid for one. :)
[10:35] <vge> ye, too bad it's faster than my own machine, makes me kinda think i need to upgrade my current
[10:36] <droach> i feel like a need a damn shower from touching my keyboard with windows on the screen
[10:36] <ScorpKing> lol
[10:37] <droach> looks like im going to be messing with wine for the next month trying to get that to play
[10:37] <blekos> hi, how can i find the path to kernel?
[10:37] <droach> even if i could just get madden 2008 to work i will be fine
[10:37] <ScorpKing> droach: use vmware. it woks for me
[10:38] <droach> does it detect your video card?
[10:38] <ScorpKing> what card do you have?
[10:38] <droach> and old 6600 gt 256
[10:38] <droach> 256 mb
[10:38] <ScorpKing> it might but it's a bit slower
[10:39] <ScorpKing> you'll have to install vmware tools
[10:39] <droach> i was thinking of booting into a minimal X session and running from there that usally is abit faster than booting into the entire desktop
[10:39] <droach> and what about controllers?
[10:40] <ScorpKing> like?
[10:40] <droach> just a cheepo ps2 style usb controller
[10:41] <ScorpKing> might have a small problem with that. usb support isn't too great.
[10:41] <droach> im willing to run a damn citrix server in my house to play bioshock
[10:42] <Savak> lol the only way bioshock will run properly is on vista or a 360
[10:42] <droach> vista is such a joke
[10:43] <Savak> indeed
[10:43] <ScorpKing> give vmware a try and see how it goes. i'm happy with it.
[10:43] <droach> i took there cetified vista operators beta test a work (where i work is a beta site) i scored an 833 out of 1000 and i had never even seen the junk before
[10:43] <droach> so im certified on an os that ive never used
[10:44] <Savak> I use it for directx10 and thats it
[10:44] <soccermike1337> How do I install zsnes?
[10:46] <ScorpKing> cheers all. have fun! :D
[10:46] <droach> ive got to geet this windowws dirt off of me bye all
[10:47] <sayers> soccermike1337: go to add/remove and search for zsnes and then check and install
[10:48] <parsnip> hi all
[10:49] <parsnip> soccermike1337: try sudo apt-get install zsnes
[10:49] <soccermike1337> thanks
[10:51] <ryaren> hi
[10:52] <ryaren> How can I check my hard disk's ID number?
[10:52] <ryaren> like UUID=10EDB1A87BB94AA1
[10:53] <vge> ryaren: u mean /dev/disk/by-id?
[10:54] <ryaren> i don't know
[10:55] <atomicpotato> ryaren, either "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid" or "blkid"
[10:55] <vge> ow yes, there is folder for uuid too, my bad ;)
[10:57] <sayers> im in gutsy and when I try to configure kopete and press okay or cancel it goes kabam
[10:58] <parsnip> Is there any way to set a picture as a folders background image in feisty?
[10:59] <newsense_> !edgy
[10:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the 5th release of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[10:59] <sayers> newsense_: ?
[10:59] <newsense_> im bored
[10:59] <newsense_> lol
[10:59] <sayers> parsnip: yes but it'd require a little bit of work. Really only a little bit , move it to the folder where the pix maps are stored
[11:01] <parsnip> sayers: ok then what
[11:02] <raynerd> #ubuntu
[11:03] <sayers> parsnip: I dont know exactly how i'm just guessing. let me try
[11:03] <parsnip> ok i thought you knew
[11:03] <parsnip> i'll google some more, just wondered if anyone knew
[11:03] <sayers> parsnip: okay properties then click on the folder icon then go to other and press browse
[11:03] <parsnip> thanks for your time :D
[11:04] <hilander_> hi
[11:04] <krisx> hello
[11:04] <sayers> parsnip: that worked for me
[11:04] <sayers> hilander_: what language is that ;)?
[11:04] <hilander_> cya
[11:04] <hilander_> German
[11:04] <hilander_> sayers
[11:04] <sayers> !ge
[11:04] <ubotu>       #ubuntu-ge - ~ For Georgian language support, please join #ubuntu-ge
[11:04] <encom> hello  i need help instaling coyote any  can help me
[11:04] <parsnip> sayers: is that just for that folder?
[11:05] <zdenek> mluvi tu nekdo cesky?
[11:05] <sayers> Oh :*(
[11:05] <encom> any
[11:05] <hilander_> I wanted to say, that I'm proud, having installed my first Unix-System on my computer. ;)
[11:05] <parsnip> sayers: its cool man, i'll dig it up yet
[11:05] <sayers> parsnip: it worked for that folder, do you mean you want a whole nother icon set
[11:05] <encom> help  in coyote
[11:05] <sayers> parsnip: well I've probably done it before
[11:06] <krisx> yes yes every winblows computer should have linux just sso it doesnt rot there brain
[11:07] <parsnip> sayers: i was after changing the background of a folder to the album art of the album the mp3s are from
[11:07] <johnseb__> hi al
[11:07] <johnseb__> all
[11:07] <johnseb__> i need help configuring kdm auto-login on my ubuntu box
[11:08] <johnseb__> i've configured the kdmrc file using the control panel but it changes absolutely nothing
[11:08] <MetaMorfoziS> johnseb__ > you need to check /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[11:08] <newsense_> parsnip: could you make a copy of the folder icon your using add the albu cover to the bg in pimp ?
[11:08] <MetaMorfoziS> and google ( i can't tell more )
[11:08] <sayers> parsnip: oh thats possible, just right click the folder -> properties then press other icons -> browse and click the picture
[11:08] <johnseb__> MetaMorfoziS: yes, that's what i did
[11:08] <newsense_> err gimp
[11:09] <johnseb__> MetaMorfoziS: the problem is that I guess ubuntu starts up with gdm and not kdm
[11:09] <MetaMorfoziS> johnseb__ > then try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[11:09] <parsnip> newsense_: i'm considering it ;)
[11:09] <MetaMorfoziS> it's asks you for the default login manager
[11:09] <MetaMorfoziS> then select kdm. or what you want.
[11:10] <parsnip> sayers: i'll try it
[11:10] <newsense_> parsnip: sounds like the only way, i know of nmo other way to do it
[11:10] <newsense_> parsnip: kind of a lotta work if ya got a big collection
[11:10] <smallfoot-> Kubuntu will be FUCKING AWESOME with KDE4 :D
[11:11] <PriceChild> smallfoot-, lets watch the language and stay on topic please.
[11:11] <smallfoot-> ok
[11:11] <smallfoot-> KDE 3 sucks
[11:11] <parsnip> newsense_: I need a project :D
[11:11] <smallfoot-> KDE4 is sweet!!!!!
[11:12] <parsnip> smallfoot-: I'm waiting until its released proper
[11:12] <newsense_> parsnip: i might do it too, sounds nice
[11:12] <parsnip> smallfoot-: does look tasty though
[11:12] <sayers> smallfoot-: kde 3 does not suck, if it wernt for kde3 we wouldnt have kde4
[11:12] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[11:12] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:12] <smallfoot-> kde3 its slow as hell, start KDE3 takes like 1 minute to load all stuff
[11:13] <sayers> not really
[11:13] <smallfoot-> and KDE3 looks buttugly
[11:13] <smallfoot-> the blue icons are horrible
[11:13] <smallfoot-> KDE4 with Tango icons will be beautiful
[11:13] <sayers> smallfoot-: Okay please #offtopic
[11:14] <encom> coyote linux info
[11:15] <encom> any
[11:15] <drewcipher__> !coyote
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about coyote - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <encom> yes
[11:16] <g011um> hi
[11:16] <sayers> smallfoot-: how would I even install kde4 on Gutsy?
[11:16] <encom> i only  need a proxy cache server
[11:17] <encom> for help  my  broadband
[11:17] <newsense_> sayers: i think its kde4base-dev
[11:17] <igor> hi
[11:17] <satty> Cineva din romania ?
[11:17] <igor> can someone by chance help me with a little beryl problem? :)
[11:19] <igor> the window border dissapears after installing beryl
[11:19] <inaety> igor, i have that error as well...quite annoying
[11:20] <ch40s_> replace --beryl -c emerald &
[11:20] <sayers> newsense_: thats it?
[11:20] <ch40s_> igor:
[11:20] <igor> sec, will try that
[11:20] <m_> helo
[11:20] <ch40s_> try it in run, alt+f2
[11:21] <newsense_> sayers: i believe so
[11:21] <igor> could not run specified command
[11:21] <ch40s_> errr
[11:21] <igor> in console it gives "[1]  11899"
[11:21] <ch40s_> beryl --replace -c emerald &
[11:21] <ch40s_> in alt+f2
[11:21] <newsense_> sayers: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.1.php
[11:22] <igor> hmmm something happened, :)
[11:22] <igor> but dint solve the problem
[11:22] <igor> only made thigns slower :)
[11:22] <igor> i havent setup emerald yet
[11:22] <igor> maybe that's why
[11:23] <ch40s_> oh well emerald is gonna be your window borders
[11:23] <igor> hmm
[11:24] <smallfoot-> KDE3 sucks, cuz it has legacy qt3, it has blue ugly icons, and it uses Konqueror as a file manager
[11:24] <smallfoot-> KDE4 will be awesome, cuz it uses qt4, has nice tango icons, and uses Dolphin as file manager
[11:24] <smallfoot-> make the bootloader fail-safe
[11:25] <sayers> smallfoot-: First of all please go to offtopic youve said this 1000 times and you can change the icons, and dolphin isnt that nice.
[11:25] <newsense_> sayers: thank you, lol
[11:25] <holycow> hey guys
[11:25] <holycow> anyone know how to remove all gnome desktop related components at once?
[11:26] <sayers> do a fresh install of kubuntu?
[11:26] <igor> emerald is seriously resisting any attempts to set it up
[11:26] <inaety> holycow: maybe "sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop"
[11:26] <holycow> sayers: too much work
[11:26] <holycow> inaety: aptitude does recursive uninstalls? really?
[11:26] <holycow> sweet, thx
[11:26] <inaety> holycow: oh no
[11:26] <inaety> idk
[11:27] <inaety> but it should remove the meta package of ubuntu-deskto
[11:27] <inaety> p
[11:27] <parsnip> sayers: its working. The folders look ace
[11:27] <holycow> thats totally usefull
[11:27] <sayers> holycow: aptitude is a lot better than apps for when packages break
[11:27] <holycow> ;)
[11:27] <sayers> parsnip: great
[11:27] <holycow> i thought there was some apt command that checked all metapackage pullins and reversed that
[11:29] <igor> ch40s: doenst work :(
[11:29] <ch40s> have u tried loading compiz?
[11:29] <igor> borders still dissapear
[11:29] <igor> i tried compiz fusion
[11:29] <kofany> i start kubuntu in rescue mode can somebody tell me how istall drivers for geforce?
[11:30] <inaety> !nvidia
[11:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:30] <ch40s> hrm, i dunno
[11:30] <kofany> yh,
[11:30] <igor> ch40s mind if we talk in another window?
[11:30] <ch40s> ive only used compiz and beryl in ubuntu fiesty
[11:30] <ch40s> nope
[11:30] <igor> sec, need to register
[11:31] <Aondo> what was that name for the new spell checker in kde4? memory is a bitch :P
[11:32] <igor_> bah, all nicks taken :)
[11:32] <ch40s> !beryl
[11:32] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:32] <ch40s> !compiz
[11:32] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:33] <igor_s> was it beryl --replace --c emerald &?
[11:34] <ch40s> -c
[11:34] <newsense_> !dolphin
[11:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dolphin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <jhutchins> Aondo: Dunno, #kubuntu is still on 3.5.7.  Try #kde.
[11:37] <Minataku> Hm
[11:38] <Minataku> What are these strange new device entries?
[11:38] <Minataku> I've got "1-3" "2-3" "5-1" "5-1.1"
[11:38] <mikko> hm, how can i set myself right to actually do something with my other hdd?
[11:39] <mikko> this doesnt make any sense to me ._.
[11:41] <Minataku> Oh
[11:41] <Minataku> They're USB devices
[11:41] <Minataku> Okay
[11:41] <Minataku> lol
[11:53] <CppIsWeird> i was looking at the System Properties window and noticed that I have a constant stream of 700-1000 b/s coming in. How do i track down what application is recieveing this data?
[11:54] <Savak> brb
[11:55] <meuhlol> Someone can help me to restore my GRUB step by step please? I'm currently on LiveCD
[11:55] <jbrouhard> flaccid: I finally fixed the problem.  Tho i had to use an app called "KillDisk" to destroy any and all data on the SATA drive :(
[11:56] <Kiry> Hello !
[11:57] <Kiry> Can someone help me ?
[11:57] <CppIsWeird> you're 4th in line.
[11:57] <CppIsWeird> :P
[11:58] <Kiry> I just want to get the original design of logout window of KDE
[12:02] <encom> #ubuntu-es
[12:03] <Kiry> Nobody can tell me how to do ? :(
[12:03] <ScorpKing> i've tried qtparted and partlogic but neither can resize my ext3 partitions. :( any ideas?
[12:03] <CppIsWeird> ScorpKing, dont resize.
[12:04] <ScorpKing> i have to
[12:04] <CppIsWeird> i dont believe you
[12:04] <ScorpKing> 20 mb free
[12:04] <ScorpKing> on / and 4.5 gb on home
[12:05] <jhutchins> ScorpKing: You can't resize the disk you're booted from.
[12:05] <ScorpKing> i know
[12:05] <ScorpKing> used kubuntu live cd and partlogic boot cd
[12:07] <newsense> after i install kde4, what config file do i need to dit to be able to switch between kde3,kde4 ?
[12:07] <ScorpKing> the kubuntu cd used the swap. i turned it off and deleted the swap partition but the resize option stayed unavailable
[12:07] <CppIsWeird> How can i track down what application is recieveing data over the internet at any given time??
[12:07] <newsense> kdm config?
[12:08] <newsense> netstat ?
[12:08] <CppIsWeird> so far as i know, that just lists current applications
[12:08] <jhutchins> ScorpKing: Well I guess just use fdisk & restore your backups.
[12:08] <newsense> CppIsWeird: netstat -a | grep "app name" ?
[12:08] <ScorpKing> :(
[12:09] <jhutchins> ScorpKing: Often faster than resizing a partition with data anyway.
[12:09] <jhutchins> ScorpKing: Don't tell me you're messing with the partition table and you don't have backups?
[12:10] <ScorpKing> ya i suppose. still dont like the idea. i like my current setup. i made backups.:)
[12:10] <newsense> after i install kde4, what config file do i need to edit to be able to switch between kde3,kde4 ?
[12:10] <ScorpKing> will reinstall tomorrow :(
[12:10] <CppIsWeird> newsense, still doesnt tell me what the active transfer rate is. I've been watching System Monitor when i was supposed to have any internet activity, i've had nothing running, and i've had a constant stream of 700-1000 b/s for the last few hours atlest.
[12:10] <jhutchins> newsense: #kubuntu is still kde 3.5.7.  How you switch depends on how you installed.
[12:11] <newsense> jhutchins: i instlled kde4base-dev via apt
[12:11] <ScorpKing> won't snort or ethereal be able to monitor network traffic? never used it.
[12:12] <CppIsWeird> *not supposed to have
[12:13] <CppIsWeird> what does this mean?ethereal - dummy upgrade package for ethereal -> wireshark
[12:15] <emilsedgh> newsense: you could launch apps from /usr/lib/kde4/bin
[12:15] <newsense> emilsedgh: thanks
[12:15] <emilsedgh> newsense: do not except too much from it...
[12:16] <CppIsWeird> ok, i've got another great question for ya. how come no internet applications will work on my linux box now (dont know why, wireless is up and kicking) however system properties is still reporting traffic.
[12:16] <newsense> emilsedgh: thanks again, exactly what i wanted
[12:16] <emilsedgh> np newsense
[12:18] <newsense> wow, dolphin is pretty nice, ive heard nothing but ad things about it in here
[12:18] <dwidmann> CppIsWeird: maybe it's related to a bug in kdenetworkmanager ... there's a bug where if it's running no kde-apps can see the net.
[12:19] <CppIsWeird> not even kde specific apps. apt-get failed to connect to the internet
[12:19] <CppIsWeird> firefox
[12:19] <CppIsWeird> aswell
[12:19] <ScorpKing> CpplsWeird: using 3g?
[12:19] <CppIsWeird> which is strange because a virtual machine running on the box is accessing the internet just fine
[12:19] <CppIsWeird> dont know what 3g is
[12:20] <ScorpKing> cellphone internet.
[12:20] <CppIsWeird> no, broadband
[12:20] <atomicpotato> newsense, nothing but bad things? Well, my main gripe is that it doesn't have a tree view or any kind of previewing ability.
[12:20] <ScorpKing> maybe it's dns.
[12:21] <dave_> hey ..somebody speak french and can help me with kubuntu
[12:21] <emilsedgh> atomicpotato: It has
[12:21] <newsense> looks cool though, avent looked at functionality yet
[12:21] <atomicpotato> where
[12:21] <emilsedgh> !fr -> dave_
[12:21] <dave_> ???
[12:21] <atomicpotato> emilsedgh, if it does, I'm not seeing it.
[12:21] <atomicpotato> Where?
[12:21] <CppIsWeird> scorpking, how could it be if a virtual machine on the same linux box is getting internet?
[12:22] <emilsedgh> atomicpotato: TreeeView is new, will see it in Beta2 packages, Preview is there from kde 3.x version...
[12:22] <atomicpotato> ok
[12:22] <paul_semaganda> Hi I have a quick question about running a C program on ubuntu after compiling it with gcc can some one help
[12:22] <Biovore> CppIsWeird: route -n
[12:22] <ScorpKing> CpplsWeird: it might still have the dns cache. i don't really know.
[12:23] <newsense> paul_semaganda: whats the question?
[12:23] <Savak> Firewall..?
[12:23] <paul_semaganda> I have compiled a C program using gcc but I don't know how to run it
[12:24] <emilsedgh> paul_semaganda: dont ask to ask, just ask, please
[12:24] <CppIsWeird> Biovore, what exactly is this supposed to tell me?
[12:24] <newsense> paul_semaganda: ./programname
[12:24] <emilsedgh> paul_semaganda: there should be a file named something.out (I think)
[12:24] <Kiry> Who can tell me how restore original KDE logout window on Kubuntu ? Please :)
[12:25] <Biovore> CppIsWeird: your routing tables.. does your box know how to get to the internet.. can you ping your default gw?
[12:25] <paul_semaganda> this is how I compiled it gcc -o error erro.c
[12:26] <Biovore> ok  so it made something called "error"  to run..  ./error
[12:26] <paul_semaganda> I have been using gcc on cygwin and all I have to do is to run the exe file
[12:26] <emilsedgh> Kiry: how did you change it?
[12:26] <Biovore> paul_semaganda: same idea here..
[12:26] <Kiry> I didn't change it, I don't like a lot the Kubuntu one, and I want the original KDE one
[12:26] <paul_semaganda> not it said there is no such command when typed error
[12:27] <newsense> paul_semaganda: ./programname
[12:27] <Biovore> when you ls do you see the file you want to run?
[12:27] <newsense> paul_semaganda: if in the same directory the program is in
[12:27] <CppIsWeird> Biovore, 99% of the time my internet and all net activities work just fine, this behavior only happens like once a week.
[12:28] <CppIsWeird> so far for reasons i cannot correlate to be the cause
[12:28] <Biovore> knetwork manager?
[12:28] <Kiry> emilsedgh: any idea ?
[12:28] <CppIsWeird> what about it?
[12:28] <Biovore> does weird thing sometimes..
[12:28] <paul_semaganda> thank you guys ./progname works
[12:28] <newsense> paul_semaganda: np
[12:29] <CppIsWeird> well im using gnome atm, i installed gnome just to see if it was kde related, because i herd of a few of those kde things.
[12:29] <emilsedgh> Kiry: I think you should find the files that are changin it, if they are only configuration files, then you should replace them by KDE's Default files, else, it will be a little hard
[12:29] <CppIsWeird> so far, same thing.
[12:30] <Kiry> T_T
[12:31] <Biovore> CppIsWeird: well All I can say for sure is that if your IP/Netmask, Default Route, /etc/resolv.conf, and phyical attachments are all correct.. then it should work..
[12:31] <Biovore> one of those has to be the root of the problem..
[12:32] <paul_semaganda> any one know how to install playback plugins for lastfm in rythmbox music player
[12:32] <emilsedgh> Kiry: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/KDE+3.5.x+Alternate+logout?content=58881&PHPSESSID=b98ab5b338f4db9fc245fe1bb4c0567e
[12:33] <emilsedgh> paul_semaganda: rythmbox? man this is the Kubuntu channel, most of people are AmaroK Users...
[12:33] <Kiry> oh thanks emilsedgh :
[12:33] <CppIsWeird> biovore, i've checked them all, even then, none of those to my knowledge would be the cause of internet randomly going out. its not like i booted and it never worked, i just at some point in time decided to say screw the world and not allow anything on linux to connect to the internet.
[12:33] <CppIsWeird> and as I said, my virtual machine running is accessing the internet just fine, which would further cancle out those as problems
[12:34] <emilsedgh> Kiry: read the description...
[12:34] <Biovore> CppIsWeird: all the cancels out the physical interface.. dosn't rule out IP/Netmask or default route..
[12:34] <Biovore> or /etc/resolv.conf
[12:36] <ScorpKing> if you have more than one network device or dhcp server the one that get dns last will set it's dns to default which might cause some connection problems.
[12:36] <Kiry> emilsedgh: it works, thank you al ot
[12:37] <Kiry> a lot*
[12:37] <emilsedgh> np Kiry