[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #136870 in malone "Link to bugs from lists of bugs in CVE pages" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136870
[12:50] <BrianB04> Alright, so 2 hours down, around 3 to go:)
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[01:28] <mpt> I wonder what eric_haslehurst's question was
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[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #136880 in malone "Heading and tabs are broken on bugtrackers page" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136880
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[02:49] <thumper> BrianB04: what do you get if you do `bzr log sftp://bbommarito@bazaar.launchpad.net/~bbommarito/rbnews/trunk`?
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[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #136884 in launchpad-answers "Editing question in unsupported language gives warning about asking a question" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136884
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #136888 in launchpad "We insufficiently discourage people from messing around" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136888
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[05:21] <Hobbsee> another timeout oops.  OOPS-611EZ1
[05:32] <Hobbsee> bah.  is launchpad really off for maintenence?
[05:32] <mpt> stub?
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[05:33] <mpt> Launchpad seems to have fallen over
[05:33] <Hobbsee> well, it's certainly not planned maintainence.  but that planned maintence page could do with some work
[05:33] <Hobbsee> yeah, keeps timing over - was on edge, in particular
[05:33] <Hobbsee> oh, wait, production is over, edge seems OK
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[05:35] <xtknight> any scheduled maintenance?  doesn't say so at http://news.launchpad.net/maintenance but i can't access bugs
[05:35] <aa_> me neither
[05:35] <Hobbsee> xtknight: try using edge.
[05:35] <Hobbsee> if you're in the beta testers
[05:35] <\sh> well, now it should say: s/no planned downtime/system malfunction/
[05:36] <xtknight> Hobbsee, ah i'm no beta tester
[05:36] <mpt> xtknight, no, that's a bug in the error page
[05:36] <Hobbsee> mpt: on that planned maintenence page, any chance you could put the maintenence schedule higher?
[05:36] <Hobbsee> mpt: like, above what the maintenence is?
[05:36] <Hobbsee> most people know what maintenence is, and only care about whether LP is supposed to be undergoing it at the current point in time.
[05:37] <xtknight> yeah obviously it is right now :P
[05:37] <aa_> Hobbsee: https://edge.launchpad.net, like that?
[05:37] <Hobbsee> aa_: yes, but you wont be able to sign in if you're not in the beta team
[05:37] <aa_> I am in the beta team
[05:37] <aa_> but I am not getting anything back from there either
[05:38] <xtknight> aa_, timing out?  same here
[05:38] <aa_> yes
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[05:38] <Hobbsee> oh, meh, that's fallen over too
[05:38] <Hobbsee> it *was* working
[05:38] <Tru7h> Hey, how come Launchpad is down?
[05:38] <xtknight> ;)
[05:38] <aa_> Tru7h: they are fixing it
[05:38] <Hobbsee> oh yay, bugmail
[05:38] <mpt> Tru7h, we don't know at the moment
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[05:38] <Hobbsee> and probably already reported...
[05:38] <Hobbsee> Thx, i am too late, like ever *g*
[05:38] <Hobbsee> Sarah Hobbs, is she the SexySarah@Ubuntu?
[05:38] <Hobbsee> Greets from Berlin, Sarah
[05:39] <Tru7h> Okay.
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[05:39] <Fujitsu> Edge/production seem to be timing out noew... nice.
[05:39] <mpt> Hobbsee, you're sending yourself fan mail?
[05:39] <Hobbsee> mpt: no, someone else is sending me that.
[05:39] <Hobbsee> oh, fricking...
[05:39] <Hobbsee> i keep forgetting - i cant connect on url's in my bugmail.
[05:40] <aa_> should we go to sleep, or should we wait?
[05:41] <Hobbsee> sleep is good, if you're in the correct part of teh world for that
[05:41] <aa_> I'm in the correct part of the world to nearly wake up :)
[05:41] <Hobbsee> HAH!
[05:41] <Hobbsee> is this the day for world internet breakage or something?
[05:41] <mpt> stub, are you there, or am I going to have to swim to Thailand and knock on your door?
[05:41] <aa_> but think of all those lonely bugs and branches
[05:41] <Hobbsee> my bank's down too
[05:42] <Hobbsee> mpt: go swim.  it could be amusing.
[05:42] <Hobbsee> mpt: but i would try the phone, first...
[05:42] <mpt> yeah, I'm getting there
[05:43] <Hobbsee> ooh, a different error now
[05:44] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: Looks the same to m.
[05:44] <Fujitsu> *me
[05:44] <Hobbsee> a "disconnection error"
[05:44] <Fujitsu> From Pound, presumably... hm.
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[05:45] <Adlai> Is launchpad supposed to be down right now?  There's no scheduled maintenance on the news page.
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[05:45] <Adlai> neato
[05:45] <Fujitsu> Adlai: Something is broken now, yes.
[05:46] <mpt> No answer from stub
[05:47] <Fujitsu> Nice.
[05:47] <aa_> so... any of the launchpad devs going to be at Pycon UK ?
[05:53] <Fujitsu> Bwahah.
[05:54] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:55] <thumper> aa_: yes
[05:55] <thumper> aa_: unfortunately not me
[05:55] <Fujitsu> Hm, 330ms pings to launchpad.net.
[05:55] <thumper> aa_: but I know that mwhudson will be
[05:56] <thumper> aa_: and I'd expect more to get there
[05:56] <aa_> I am quite excited, I have never been to one of these things :)
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[05:58] <thumper> Fujitsu: drinking and socialising
[05:58] <thumper> oh, and some python stuff
[05:59] <Fujitsu> Drinking/socialising/python are bad things!?
[05:59] <aa_> only when performed simultaneously
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[06:03] <Fujitsu> s/want/want to/
[06:03] <Fujitsu> I can't think.
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[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #136897 in malone "CVE list is ugly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136897
[06:26] <aa_> nice one guys
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[07:54] <soren> Is there an ETA on https://bugs.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/134567/ ?  If it's just a day or two, I won't bother working aroung it..
[07:54] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 134567 in soyuz "having a debian/copyright should not be a requirement" [High,Confirmed]   - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov)
[07:59] <Fujitsu> soren: It'll be fixed when 1.1.9 is released, ie. the 19th.
[08:00] <Fujitsu> Unless a bug is Critical, it won't be before the next release.
[08:01] <soren> Fujitsu: Oh, ok. And releases are always on the third Wednesday of the month or something like that?
[08:04] <Fujitsu> soren: Not entirely sure.. the next few are scheduled, so you could check.
[08:06] <soren> Fujitsu: Where?
[08:10] <Fujitsu> soren: https://launchpad.net/{launchpad,malone,soyuz,launchpad-{answers,bazaar}}/+milestone/1.1.x
[08:10] <Fujitsu> It should be the same for all the projects, I think.
[08:19] <soren> Fujitsu: Oh, I see. Thanks.
[08:28] <elmargol> I requested some time ago access to launchpad-beta-testers on dogfood. No response yet :(
[08:29] <Fujitsu> elmargol: We haven't been using dogfood for like 4 days now.
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[08:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 88611 in soyuz "Only one PPA per user" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88611 - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov)
[08:30] <elmargol> Fujitsu: I like to try PPA out :( and being in this group is a dependency :(
[08:30] <soren> elmargol: No, it's not anymore.
[08:32] <Fujitsu> soren: Yes it is... it's still in beta, just on the production server.
[08:33] <soren> Fujitsu: Oh, really? I thought it went public already.
[08:33] <elmargol> The Personal Package Archives feature is currently in beta. Before you create your PPA, you need to: 
[08:33] <elmargol>  be a member of the Launchpad Beta Testers team. Find out how to join the team.
[08:33] <Fujitsu> I don't believe so.
[08:34] <Fujitsu> soren: Why exactly are you uploading things without debian/copyright, anyway?
[08:35] <soren> Fujitsu: Because the build system creates it.
[08:35] <Fujitsu> Eww...
[08:35] <soren> elmargol: What's your lp username?
[08:36] <elmargol> elmargol
[08:36] <Fujitsu> What's wrong with having the source copyright in the source?
[08:36] <soren> https://launchpad.net/~elmargol/+archive
[08:36] <soren> elmargol: You seem to have a PPA?
[08:36] <fabbione> Fujitsu, soren: debian/copyright is mandatory 
[08:37] <soren> Fujitsu: When building php5, it takes a header and contatenates it with a few other license files and sticks that into debian/copyright.
[08:37] <soren> fabbione: YEs, in the resulting package.
[08:37] <Fujitsu> fabbione: I would have thought so, yeah.
[08:37] <fabbione> soren: no, also in the source package.
[08:37] <Fujitsu> Mhm.
[08:37] <fabbione> soren: do you have any reference that says otherwise?
[08:37] <Fujitsu> Otherwise they get hastily rejected and die.
[08:37] <soren> fabbione: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-dpkgcopyright
[08:38] <Fujitsu> `A copy of the file which will be installed in /usr/share/doc/package/copyright should be in debian/copyright in the source package.'
[08:38] <soren> fabbione: Only the heading mentions debian/copyright.
[08:38] <Fujitsu> http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-docs.html#s-copyrightfile
[08:38] <fabbione> soren: you lose :)
[08:38] <soren> Fujitsu: ?!?!?? Where does it say that? I can't spot it?
[08:39] <fabbione> soren: right in the middle...
[08:39] <fabbione> soren: of 12.5
[08:39] <Fujitsu> soren: A page linked from what you linked.
[08:39] <soren> It says "should".
[08:39] <soren> Not "must".
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[08:39] <fabbione> soren: feh.. do you really plan to go to jail? :P
[08:40] <Fujitsu> I've seen sources construct debian/copyright while building the source, but never when building binaries.
[08:40] <soren> fabbione: Hey, I didn't invent this shit :)
[08:40] <fabbione> soren: no but you are trying to play very smart from a "must"/"should"
[08:41] <fabbione> soren: if you want my honest opinion, you better keep debian/copyright around in the source as single reference point
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #136935 in launchpad-bazaar "Bad grammar in branch mirroring error message" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136935
[08:41] <soren> fabbione: Again: I'm not the one doing it. I just don't want to carry around a major delta to the php5 package just to keep soyuz happy about something which might be frowned upon, but actually is allowed by policy.
[08:42] <fabbione> soren: you are always at fault :P
[08:42] <soren> Doh.. Yeah, it feels that way sometimes. :)
[08:42] <Fujitsu> For another thing, that's Debian policy, and I'm sure the archive admins will redefine it if necessary, or that check wouldn't exist.
[08:43] <soren> Fujitsu: Then they should have rejected the bug rather than assign it to cprov :)
[08:44] <Fujitsu> Hm, and it was seb128 that filed it.
[08:44] <soren> Heh.. Yeah.
[08:44] <soren> Whatever, I'll remove the '-rm debian/copyright' from the clean target. That should make everyone (except me) happy.
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #136937 in malone "Cannot file a private bug on the web UI" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136937
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[08:48] <soren> mpt: Oh... that explains part of the bug privacy issue we discussed last night
[08:49] <soren> mpt: Where "last night" is 7-8 hours ago.
[08:49] <soren> mpt: If you can't mark it private from the start, the automatic subscriptions are applied (bug contacts and such) and they don't get removed when marking it private.
[08:50] <Fujitsu> soren: I thought marking it as private removed implicit subscriptions..
[08:51] <soren> Fujitsu: Oh, that may be. I've never tried it :)
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[09:01] <Fujitsu> Hm, that's a bit odd, the bug contact gets turned into an explicit subscriber. That's pretty damn useless.
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[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #136939 in launchpad-bazaar "Automatically adjust branch mirror frequency based on commit frequency" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136939
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[09:13] <mpt> soren, the official method is to mark it as a security vulnerability, which automatically marks it as private, and then to change it to be still-private-but-not-a-security-vulnerability-any-more afterwards
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[09:13] <Hobbsee> yay, LP is back!
[09:14] <mpt> LP has been back for nearly 3 hours...
[09:17] <Fujitsu> mpt: You, as a NZer, should know that LP sometimes takes that long to load :P
[09:17] <Hobbsee> mpt: sure, but i've been offline :)
[09:17] <jml> mpt: that's official?
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[09:33] <mdke> mpt: heh - I've just made a change to the wiki, and get the "authentication database unavailable" error message even though it's let me make the changes...
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[09:38] <mpt> jml, official as in the result of the discussion with kiko and BjornT about how to end up with only one checkbox on the report-a-bug page
[09:39] <mpt> I think probably it would be better to have an expandable section containing a privacy checkbox, a security checkbox, a tags field, and maybe an assignee field
[09:39] <mpt> oh, and an attachment field :-)
[09:40] <jml> mpt: the "complicated" bug filing form should probably have all of these things.
[09:40] <mpt> I also think we should not have a "complicated" bug "filing" form
[09:40] <mpt> but that's another story
[09:40] <jml> mpt: :)
[09:40] <jml> mpt: I'm inclined to agree.
[09:42] <jml> mpt: I guess what I mean is that adding a privacy checkbox to the complicated form is in keeping with the currently demonstrated bug-filing UI principles (however misguided they might be) and is a fairly small change.
[09:43] <mpt> yes
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[10:31] <dholbach> heya
[10:31] <dholbach> I forgot the proper way of doing it again, what is the proper way of making a team 'obsolete' in LP?
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[11:02] <carlos> jtv, danilos: hi
[11:03] <danilos> carlos: hi
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[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #136960 in soyuz "Commercial (partner) archive should allow uploads to the release pocket for a distroseries in a stable state." [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136960
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[12:27] <iwj> Was there something wrong with Launchpad between 0346 and 0406 UTC this morning ?
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[12:33] <mpt> iwj, yes
[12:34] <mpt> more precisely, between 0328 and 0406
[12:37] <iwj> OK.  (I need to improve the error reporting in my screenscraper I think.)
[12:37] <iwj> Just so long as you knew about it.
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[02:10] <BrianB04> Good morning launchpaders
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[03:00] <TheKing> Guys, I have a question.
[03:01] <soren> You have no idea how tempting it is to give you a link to https://answers.launchpad.net/
[03:01] <soren> Oh, look. I did it anyway.
[03:01] <soren> :)
[03:02] <TheKing> It says I can't sign up because there is maintenance, but when I check on http://news.launchpad.net/maintenance, it says there is no scheduled maintenances.
[03:02] <soren> Just kidding, of course :)
[03:03] <TheKing> Never mind.
[03:06] <BrianB04> Me'sa think you insulted him:)
[03:10] <kiko> but is it really on maintenence?
[03:10] <BrianB04> I am logged in, haven't had any issues today.
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[03:31] <ubotu> New bug: #136507 in update-manager (main) "upgrading from feisty to gutsy, upgrade-manager -d tries to retrieve commercial packages (dup-of: 133474)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136507
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[05:14] <sander_m> Hello. Is something up with the launchpad-users mailinglist? I sent a message a few days ago but I got "help for moderator approval" but no reaction so far. However, I didn't get *any* launchpad-users mail over the last few days, and looking at the online archives there had been nothing since the 30th.
[05:14] <radix> sander_m: I just got some stuff this morning I think
[05:15] <mwhudson> sander_m: are you sure you're subscribed with the address you think you're subscribed with?
[05:15] <mwhudson> i've seen some posts to the list in the last few days
[05:15] <sander_m> Yup. I got the confirmation e-mail and welcome e-mail correctly
[05:17] <sander_m> One thing: I did switch hosts (and thus DNS) over the weekend. Does the list already stop mailing after one or two bounces?
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[06:32] <ubotu> New bug: #131519 in update-manager (main) "Broken upgrade to Gutsy Tribe 4 (dup-of: 133474)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131519
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[06:52] <Lure> hi, just started to use ppa - great to have this feature!
[06:52] <Lure> how can I remove package in my ppa?
[06:54] <kiko> Lure, you can't yet -- you will be able to in about 3 weeks.
[06:55] <Lure> kiko: ok, but new upload of newer version will automatically remove old package, right?
[06:55] <kiko> Lure, it won't, but it doesn't matter -- apt does the right thing.
[06:55] <Lure> kiko: ok, good enough for now - just that I know the limitations and how to use it
[06:56] <kiko> Lure, it's coming along, superseding and removals -- we just didn't want to block the release on it.
[06:57] <Lure> kiko: maybe you should modify quick-guide as it states "Packages will remain published until either you remove them yourself, or you supersede them with newer versions, or the underlying release of Ubuntu against which they were built becomes obsolete and unmaintained." which is a bit misleading
[06:58] <kiko> Lure, well, it will be correct as of late-September :) 
[06:58] <kiko> that's why it hasn't been updated yet.
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[06:58] <Lure> kiko: fine with me (if you don;'t mind questions like mine) ;-)
[07:01] <kiko> Lure, I like to know who's using launchpad (and who cares too :-)
[07:01] <Lure> kiko: ;-)
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[07:13] <stgraber> any LP admin around ?
[07:13] <kiko> yes!
[07:13] <stgraber> I would like the isotesting-tracker project to be renamed to qa-tracker as it'll not be used to test ISO only but also hardware, software, ...
[07:14] <kiko> stgraber, hang on.
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[07:14] <kiko> stgraber, is it for Ubuntu?
[07:14] <stgraber> it's the ubuntu QA tracker yes
[07:16] <stgraber> got to go, will be back in a moment
[07:17] <kiko> stgraber, so can it be ubuntu-qa-tracker?
[07:20] <kiko> stgraber, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-tracker
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[07:42] <yml> hello launchpaders,
[07:43] <kiko> hello yml 
[07:45] <yml> I am still trying to get my complete workflow of development flowing with launchpad
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #137072 in launchpad "IntegrityError when marking a project with no bug contact as private-bugs-by-default" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137072
[07:46] <yml> I beleive I reach on of the final step of the loop. I am trying to push my branch from a remote host to launchpad.net.
[07:47] <yml> I am getting this error message:
[07:47] <yml> yml@ssh1:~/workspace$ bzr push "sftp://yml-nospam@bazaar.launchpad.net/~yml-nospam/survey/main-yui"Could not create directory '/home/yml/.ssh'.Permission denied (publickey).bzr: ERROR: Unable to connect to SSH host bazaar.launchpad.net;
[07:48] <yml> Does this make sense to someone?
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[07:49] <yml> I do not understand why bzr is trying to create this directory /home/yml/.ssh
[07:49] <yml> my key is located in /home/yml/www/.ssh
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[08:00] <stgraber> kiko: thanks
[08:01] <kiko> yml, hang on, I'm on the phone -- but ask on #bzr first
[08:01] <yml> I have already post something there.
[08:01] <yml> :)
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[08:29] <BrianB04> How often are mirrors updated? Like, if I push changes to a branch hosted on Launchpad, when will that get checked again for changes?
[08:30] <kiko> it's pretty frequent. mwh, ddaa?
[08:31] <ddaa> Should happen within 3 minutes.
[08:31] <ddaa> There was a race condition recently that caused it to take up to a day sometimes. Not sure when it was fixed.
[08:33] <BrianB04> It hasn't been, it seems:)
[08:34] <ddaa> Here it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/129682
[08:34] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 129682 in launchpad-bazaar "some upload branches fail to be mirrored promptly" [Medium,Incomplete]   - Assigned to Jonathan Lange (jml)
[08:35] <ddaa> the bug is still open
[08:36] <ddaa> the branch will be mirrored anyway after one day
[08:36] <ubotu> New bug: #137083 in malone "Broken test uses 'nopriv' user in pagetests/initial-bug-contacts/15-set-package-bug-contact.txt" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137083
[08:36] <ubotu> New bug: #137091 in rosetta "Spanish Translation error in "Trucos y Consejos" on Konqueror" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137091
[08:36] <BrianB04> Supposedly, The 18th or 19th of this month 1.1.9 gets pushed out, and that fixes it.
[08:37] <ddaa> mh
[08:38] <ddaa> With some luck that will be fixed in 1.1.9, yes.
[08:38] <kiko> well, the bug needs to be fixed by then! :)
[08:38] <kiko> BrianB04, send jml some pizza
[08:38] <ddaa> kiko: the problem is that we do not have the diagnostic data to fix the bug.
[08:38] <kiko> ddaa, maybe BrianB04 can help you there?
[08:38] <kiko> or maybe I can
[08:38] <ddaa> when fixing another bug (bug 74031) a race condition was found and fixed
[08:38] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 74031 in launchpad-bazaar "supermirror pull frequency should be more transparent" [Medium,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/74031 - Assigned to Jonathan Lange (jml)
[08:39] <ddaa> there's a reasonable chance that the problem will be fixed in 1.1.9
[08:40] <ddaa> kiko: I do not think either of you can help, it's a transient problem involving multiple moving parts
[08:40] <kiko> ddaa, is increased logging somewhere useful?
[08:41] <ddaa> nope
[08:41] <ddaa> the logging code is not there in the first place
[08:41] <ddaa> kiko: jml is the one who looked into this
[08:42] <ddaa> I just know the overall issue, and I know it's a kind of problem we try prevent in the new code import system with the event journal stuff.
[08:42] <ddaa> IMO, logging is not even the right answer.
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[08:42] <ddaa> the problem is more about how multiple subsystems interacts on the same objects.
[08:42] <moquist> how can I become a beta tester? I want to get my PPA working.
[08:43] <LaserJock> kiko: can you do that ^^ ? pretty please :-)
[08:43] <moquist> I've activated my PPA but when I upload sources the reply email says "Signer has no upload rights at all to this distribution."
[08:44] <kiko> LaserJock, is he an ubuntero?
[08:44] <kiko> moquist, do you vouch not to post screenshots and to use a true name as your display name?
[08:45] <moquist> Yes.
[08:45] <LaserJock> kiko: don't worry, I know where he lives, roughly. ;-)
[08:45] <moquist> "Ubuntero:  Yes "
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[08:46] <moquist> display name is changed.
[08:46] <kiko> moquist, I didn't recognize you from your IRC nick! :)
[08:47] <moquist> I'll just, er, continue not posting screenshots. :)
[08:47] <kiko> jesus
[08:47] <kiko> added!
[08:47] <moquist> kiko: Oh; NP. Hi. :)
[08:47] <kiko> sorry bout that
[08:47] <moquist> again; np. :)
[08:47] <moquist> Has there been a problem with people posting screenshots, apparently?
[08:47] <kiko> well..
[08:47] <moquist> kiko: thanks
[08:48] <kiko> mark wanted the 1.0 UI to be kept secret until the day it was released
[08:48] <kiko> and though there were some leaks
[08:48] <kiko> it was nice to release in a big bang
[08:48] <moquist> Ohhhhh. Right.
[08:48] <kiko> I think there is less value in this now that 1.0 is out
[08:48] <kiko> but that's the stated policy and I better keep to it until we all agree to change it :)
[08:49] <moquist> sure
[08:54] <moquist> PPA keeps rejecting me with "Unable to find distroseries: unstable/Signer has no upload rights at all to this distribution." Here is my debian/control file: http://n01se.net/paste/730?pretty=yes
[08:58] <kiko> moquist, where are you uploading to?
[08:59] <moquist> Seems more likely to be a problem with my .dput.cf: http://n01se.net/paste/wSG?pretty=yes
[08:59] <moquist> kiko: right
[09:01] <kiko> moquist, what an odd error message. 
[09:01] <kiko> unstable?
[09:02] <kiko> moquist, could your changes file or DSC not be amiss?
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[09:03] <moquist> Could be... I'm building the source package with "dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot -k889906F3" and I'm able to pbuilder a .deb out of it, and that installs fine for me.
[09:04] <moquist> But I'm new to packaging in general, so I really don't know what might be broken.
[09:05] <moquist> kiko: Oh - are you wondering about "Distribution: unstable" in my changes file?
[09:06] <kiko> yes.
[09:07] <kiko> that's wrong. :)
[09:07] <moquist> OK. It should say 'gutsy' there. GOt it.
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[09:07] <kiko> otherwise we have no way of knowing who you're trying to build against.
[09:07] <moquist> Yep.
[09:08] <moquist> If I put 'feisty' there, will people have any trouble using my PPA on gutsy systems?
[09:08] <kiko> it will build and publish against feisty, moquist.
[09:11] <kiko> so you need to do separate uploads for each release.
[09:12] <moquist> OK. I still need to get a handle on how to conveniently manage source files for multiple releases.
[09:12] <kiko> I think it can actually be the same source
[09:13] <moquist> Right...I could move debian/ dirs around, I suppose.
[09:13] <kiko> you can override by uploading to ~moquist/ubuntu/gutsy
[09:13] <kiko> you can override by uploading to ~moquist/ubuntu/feisty
[09:13] <kiko> wow, cnp action gone totally wrong there!
[09:14] <moquist> Oh - that sounds lots easier. I could just have ppa-gutsy and ppa-feisty in my .dput.cf, and upload twice.
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[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #137123 in launchpad-bazaar "OOPS editing team branch subscription" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137123
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[09:47] <yml> I am back I spend sometime trying to fix my pb with the guys on #bzr 
[09:48] <yml> but unfortunatly without any success
[09:49] <kiko> yml, so what's happening?
[09:49] <yml> I am still trying to bzr push to my launchpad account but for some reason the system try to write in a directy where it does not have access 
[09:49] <kiko> moquist, yeah, you sure could.
[09:50] <kiko> yml, what is bzr trying to write to?
[09:50] <yml> yml@ssh1:~/workspace$ bzr push "sftp://yml-nospam@bazaar.launchpad.net/~yml-nospam/survey/main-yui"Could not create directory '/home/yml/.ssh'.Permission denied (publickey).bzr: ERROR: Unable to connect to SSH host bazaar.launchpad.net;
[09:51] <yml> It is not related to bazaar it is ssh that try to write  '/home/yml/.ssh'
[09:51] <kiko> yml, and why can't it write to /home/ymkl on your local directory?
[09:51] <yml> /home/yml is not ~
[09:51] <kiko> err /home/yml
[09:51] <kiko> oh?
[09:51] <yml> ~ is /home/yml/www
[09:52] <kiko> so cd ~ does exactly that?
[09:52] <kiko> yml, and echo $HOME?
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[09:53] <yml> kiyml@ssh1:~/workspace$ cd ~yml@ssh1:~$ pwd/home/yml/www
[09:53] <kiko> yml, and echo $HOME?
[09:53] <yml> yml@ssh1:~$ echo $HOME/home/yml/www
[09:54] <kiko> and sftp yml-nospam@bazaar.launchpad.net ?
[09:54] <yml> The funny thing is that all the application understand this except ssh
[09:54] <kiko> it's quite odd indeed
[09:54] <yml> this drive me crazy for the last 3 days
[09:54] <kiko> as if ssh wasn't respecting $HOME
[09:55] <yml> yml@ssh1:~$ sftp yml-nospam@bazaar.launchpad.netConnecting to bazaar.launchpad.net...Could not create directory '/home/yml/.ssh'.Permission denied (publickey).Couldn't read packet: Connection reset by peer
[09:56] <yml> same thing with -v: http://dpaste.com/18508/
[09:56] <yml> kiko, yes exactly
[09:59] <kiko> count it be somehow related to PermitUserEnvironment?
[09:59] <kiko> yml, do you have an /etc/ssh/ssh_config?
[10:00] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[10:00] <kiko> morning mpt 
[10:02] <yml> yes there is one but it is control by my provider I cannot modify it 
[10:03] <kiko> yml, can I see it though?
[10:03] <kiko> or is it not readable?
[10:04] <yml> kiko : what is the equivalent of ctrl + a  and ctrl +c with VI
[10:04] <yml> then I can paste it somewhere
[10:05] <kiko> hmmm
[10:05] <yml> fyi, nano is also available?
[10:05] <kiko> you select with the left button and paste with the middle?
[10:05] <yml> yes this is torture
[10:05] <yml> I am going to try this in multiple times
[10:06] <kiko> just copy it into your homedir and you can then give me a link to it
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[10:07] <kiko-afk> yml, email me at kiko@async.com.br
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[10:11] <yml> kiko what should I email you?
[10:11] <yml> the content of the file?
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[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #137140 in malone "Oops linking cve entry to a bug report that had the bug target modified" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137140
[11:16] <moquist> PPA tells me "MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive/Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification."
[11:17] <moquist> But the only file listed in .dsc is xterminator_0.1-1.tar.gz, the md5sum in .dsc is correct, and xterminator_0.1-1.tar.gz is being uploaded when I dput. I previously uploaded with changelog specifying 'feisty', and now I've chagned that to gutsy and am trying to upload again.
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[12:05] <Fujitsu> moquist: It means that you changed the .orig.tar.gz since the last upload, without changing the version.
[12:08] <ajmitch> in this case it's packaged natively, with a debian revision
[12:17] <Fujitsu> ajmitch: Ah, right, I didn't bother to look much further than the error.
[12:18] <ajmitch> same cause, no change of version
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[12:18] <Fujitsu> Hum, true. /me hides.
[12:19] <ajmitch> early morning
[12:19] <Fujitsu> Hah.
[12:29] <Lure> is it possible that ppa xen for amd64 has wrong time (compared from i386)?
[12:29] <Lure> otherwise it is hard to explain this failure on amd64 for build that started almost at the same time as i386
[12:30] <Lure> https://launchpad.net/~lure/+archive/+builds?build_text=kdepim&build_state=all
[12:32] <Lure> btw, "Announcing to gutsy-changes@lists.ubuntu.com" at the end of ppa accepted mail got me scared for a second ;-)
[12:32] <Lure> I have though I uploaded to main by accident (even though I am not core-dev) ;-)
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