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perlsyntax | hey | 03:16 |
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jrib | hi | 03:16 |
perlsyntax | what up | 03:16 |
jrib | perlsyntax: where are you trying to 'cd' to? | 03:16 |
perlsyntax | yes i am | 03:17 |
jrib | *where* | 03:17 |
perlsyntax | i try to install kismet by hand. | 03:17 |
perlsyntax | i download kismet and put it in my home | 03:17 |
jrib | perlsyntax: do you know that kismet is in the repositories? No need to compile | 03:17 |
jrib | !info kismet | 03:17 |
ubotu | kismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2006.04.R1-1.1 (feisty), package size 964 kB, installed size 2448 kB | 03:17 |
perlsyntax | and i try to cd it and not anything happons. | 03:17 |
perlsyntax | odd i think | 03:18 |
jrib | perlsyntax: you know about using APT on ubuntu to install kismet? | 03:18 |
perlsyntax | yes i do | 03:18 |
jrib | do you not want to for some reason? | 03:18 |
perlsyntax | the tar file got more tols that come with it. | 03:19 |
perlsyntax | tools | 03:19 |
jrib | ok, then tell me the exact commands you are trying and the full output | 03:19 |
perlsyntax | tar kismet-2007-R1b.tar.gz | 03:19 |
perlsyntax | and it in my home floder when i do that. | 03:19 |
perlsyntax | and i try to cd kismet-2007-R1b | 03:20 |
jrib | you need to do 'tar xf kismet-2007-R1b.tar.gz' to extract | 03:21 |
perlsyntax | really | 03:21 |
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degrit | 'ullo | 03:21 |
jrib | you should be getting errors | 03:22 |
perlsyntax | put it in my home floder right? | 03:22 |
perlsyntax | sorry for my spelling. | 03:22 |
jrib | yes, if that is where the tar.gz is | 03:22 |
jrib | hi degrit | 03:22 |
perlsyntax | tar: kismet-2007-R1b.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory | 03:23 |
perlsyntax | tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now | 03:23 |
perlsyntax | odd | 03:23 |
perlsyntax | it in my home | 03:23 |
jrib | how do you know? | 03:24 |
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perlsyntax | i see it there | 03:25 |
perlsyntax | checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1 | 03:25 |
perlsyntax | checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1 | 03:25 |
perlsyntax | checking for gcc... gcc | 03:25 |
perlsyntax | checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables | 03:25 |
perlsyntax | See `config.log' for more details. | 03:25 |
jrib | where are you seeing it | 03:25 |
jrib | erm, so now you are past the extracting part and you are 'cd' in the directory then? | 03:26 |
perlsyntax | i type cd and the ./configure and it get that error. | 03:26 |
jrib | !compiling > perlsyntax (see the private message from ubotu) | 03:26 |
jrib | perlsyntax: sudo apt-get install build-essential && sudo apt-get build-dep kismet | 03:26 |
perlsyntax | what message? | 03:26 |
jrib | perlsyntax: there should be a tab with a message from ubotu | 03:27 |
perlsyntax | ihow do i get tht message? | 03:27 |
jrib | do you see "ubotu" somewhere on the xchat screen (not in the name list) | 03:27 |
perlsyntax | yes | 03:27 |
jrib | click on it | 03:27 |
perlsyntax | ok | 03:28 |
perlsyntax | i did | 03:29 |
jrib | he gives you detailed information, but my command should get you started | 03:29 |
perlsyntax | ok | 03:30 |
perlsyntax | i use doing tar zxvf | 03:30 |
jrib | that works too | 03:30 |
perlsyntax | i try that then | 03:30 |
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perlsyntax | checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1 | 03:32 |
perlsyntax | checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1 | 03:32 |
perlsyntax | checking for gcc... gcc | 03:32 |
perlsyntax | checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables | 03:32 |
perlsyntax | maybe i should go back to fedora. | 03:32 |
jrib | perlsyntax: did you do the apt-get command I gave you? | 03:34 |
perlsyntax | yes | 03:35 |
perlsyntax | it werid i can't untar a file with this. | 03:35 |
jrib | if you are running ./configure then you already untarred it | 03:35 |
perlsyntax | ok | 03:35 |
jrib | pastebin the output of the apt-get command I gave you please | 03:35 |
jrib | !pastebin | 03:36 |
ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 03:36 |
jrib | actually, just do this and pastebin the output: apt-cache policy build-essential | 03:36 |
perlsyntax | when i was on fedora all i did was cd and then ./configure and make and install.it. | 03:37 |
jrib | ubuntu does not come with devel tools by default, so you need to install them | 03:37 |
perlsyntax | that sucks | 03:37 |
jrib | not really, it's one command | 03:38 |
perlsyntax | what devel tools do i need to do that? | 03:38 |
jrib | actually, just do this and pastebin the output: apt-cache policy build-essential | 03:38 |
perlsyntax | i just type that | 03:38 |
jrib | yes and then show me what it says | 03:39 |
perlsyntax | it will not let me paste it | 03:40 |
jrib | just paste it here then | 03:41 |
perlsyntax | i trying to do that. | 03:41 |
perlsyntax | mmm | 03:41 |
jrib | hilight the output, then go to xchat and middle click in the entry field | 03:41 |
perlsyntax | i don't see entry field | 03:43 |
jrib | the place where you type | 03:44 |
perlsyntax | build-essential: | 03:45 |
perlsyntax | Installed: (none) | 03:45 |
perlsyntax | Candidate: 11.3ubuntu1 | 03:45 |
perlsyntax | Version table: | 03:45 |
perlsyntax | 11.3ubuntu1 0 | 03:45 |
perlsyntax | 500 cdrom://Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Alpha i386 (20070902) gutsy/main Packages | 03:45 |
perlsyntax | 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Packages | 03:45 |
jrib | gutsy is still being developed, you should be using a stable release | 03:45 |
perlsyntax | ok | 03:45 |
perlsyntax | that the prob | 03:45 |
jrib | but to install the development tools you need to do this command: sudo apt-get install build-essential && sudo apt-get install build-dep kismet | 03:46 |
jrib | you also need to read the page ubotu is about to tell you about: | 03:46 |
jrib | !compiling | 03:46 |
ubotu | Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!) | 03:46 |
jrib | ... | 03:48 |
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croweboy | PriceChild im here | 09:40 |
PriceChild | Hey | 09:41 |
PriceChild | so what's up? | 09:41 |
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croweboy | ok so ill explain what i was doing | 09:41 |
Nighthawk420 | hello all | 09:41 |
croweboy | lastnight i had a guy trying to help me install Final Fantasy II | 09:41 |
croweboy | todo so he had me install a program called envy | 09:42 |
croweboy | for the nvidia drivers needed | 09:42 |
croweboy | well it ended up not working | 09:42 |
nalioth | EEEK! it's PriceChild | 09:42 |
croweboy | to use the envy drivers i had to disable the nvidea accelerated graphics driver in "restricted Drivers" | 09:43 |
PriceChild | but why?! | 09:43 |
croweboy | but at first i was able to switch back and forth | 09:43 |
PriceChild | restricted drivers does the same as envy does... | 09:43 |
croweboy | now i cant | 09:43 |
PriceChild | but RD is supported by ubuntu | 09:43 |
croweboy | i get it was conflicting or something | 09:43 |
croweboy | with the envy drivers or something | 09:43 |
croweboy | reason was during the cedega setup the driver would fail | 09:44 |
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croweboy | unless i had the restricted driver disabled | 09:44 |
croweboy | then it would work | 09:44 |
croweboy | so now that i cant use cedega becuase ffxi is crap on linux | 09:44 |
PriceChild | So what's the problem now? | 09:45 |
PriceChild | restricted driver manager doesn't work? | 09:45 |
croweboy | for somereason i cant reenable the restriced driver which is some fault of mine | 09:45 |
PriceChild | what error does it give? | 09:45 |
croweboy | pretty much | 09:45 |
PriceChild | because you gave me one earlier... | 09:45 |
croweboy | let me go get it | 09:45 |
PriceChild | then said another.... | 09:45 |
croweboy | when i try to enable the driver it get this | 09:46 |
croweboy | E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. | 09:46 |
croweboy | E: _cache->open() failed, please report. | 09:46 |
PriceChild | ok | 09:46 |
PriceChild | in a terminal run the following | 09:46 |
PriceChild | "sudo dpkg --configure -a" | 09:46 |
PriceChild | without the quotes | 09:46 |
croweboy | so i go to the terminal and enter dpkg --configure -a | 09:46 |
croweboy | kk | 09:46 |
croweboy | i copied that in and hit enter it asked for my password i hit enter and then it went back to chris@pc's name:-$ | 09:47 |
croweboy | is that right | 09:47 |
croweboy | ok i think that might have worked | 09:49 |
croweboy | brb have to restart | 09:49 |
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croweboy | Price are you here | 10:06 |
croweboy | Price so i guess im gonna cut my losses sinse the boot is working | 10:06 |
nalioth | cut losses? | 10:08 |
croweboy | i was having a driver problem the entenualy lead to me not being able to get into ubuntu | 10:08 |
croweboy | i didnt something that screwed it up | 10:08 |
croweboy | i just happened to have to boot options for some reason on my boot screen so i went into the second one | 10:09 |
nalioth | i've been reading | 10:09 |
croweboy | and luckily every thing is working in that one | 10:09 |
croweboy | what caused the problem to start with was | 10:10 |
croweboy | i was trying to get Final Fantasy II to run on ubuntu | 10:11 |
croweboy | by useing a program called cedega and envy for the nvidia drivers | 10:11 |
nalioth | yes, i read all you've said to PriceChild | 10:11 |
croweboy | ok | 10:11 |
nalioth | i'm interested in "cutting losses" | 10:12 |
croweboy | well ,, the "boot" for lack of a beter way to put it that i was useing only takes me to text now | 10:12 |
croweboy | i dont know what i did | 10:12 |
croweboy | so i guess im just gonna have to use this one sinse it works | 10:13 |
croweboy | thus cutt my losses | 10:13 |
croweboy | and be thankful i didnt complete loose ubuntu or what ever | 10:13 |
croweboy | btw only been useing linux for a week now | 10:13 |
croweboy | total noob | 10:13 |
nalioth | so you do have a graphical ubuntu ? | 10:15 |
croweboy | yeah some how it was listed twice at the boot screen ,,, im dual booting ubuntu and windows but there were to ubuntu options | 10:16 |
croweboy | so i went to the second on | 10:16 |
croweboy | one | 10:16 |
croweboy | so im asumeing i have it instaled twice or something | 10:16 |
croweboy | i really have no idea | 10:17 |
nalioth | ah, you are using an older kernel | 10:17 |
croweboy | i am ? | 10:17 |
croweboy | its ubuntu 7.0.4 | 10:17 |
nalioth | the 'boot options' you speak of are older version of the kernel | 10:18 |
croweboy | i need to reformat but it took me hours of help to get compiz fusion going and i dont want to loose it | 10:18 |
croweboy | i c | 10:18 |
nalioth | it allows you to get into Ubuntu if you've trashed your current setup | 10:18 |
nalioth | are you familiar with the command line? | 10:18 |
croweboy | you seem be pretty knowledgeable | 10:18 |
croweboy | i think thats exactly what i did | 10:18 |
nalioth | i know a bit about linux | 10:18 |
nalioth | been using it since 1997 | 10:19 |
croweboy | anyway i could keep incontact with you | 10:19 |
croweboy | being im a brand new user and dont know what im doing | 10:19 |
croweboy | lol | 10:19 |
nalioth | maybe | 10:19 |
croweboy | hehe id really appriciate it | 10:20 |
nalioth | are you familiar with the command line? | 10:20 |
croweboy | nope | 10:20 |
nalioth | pity | 10:20 |
croweboy | only know what other people have been telling me to do | 10:20 |
nalioth | if you were, you could boot into your most current kernel (the one you screwed up with non official crap) and fix it | 10:20 |
nalioth | it's an easy fix | 10:20 |
croweboy | i guess im familiar enough to do what im told | 10:21 |
croweboy | i didnt realize i was doing non offical stuff | 10:21 |
PriceChild | gah back sorry. | 10:22 |
croweboy | price my normal one that i log into is total screwed lol | 10:23 |
croweboy | im in a second one | 10:23 |
croweboy | it works fine | 10:24 |
croweboy | nalioth how would i go about fixing the other | 10:24 |
nalioth | croweboy: got two computers? | 10:25 |
croweboy | yum yeah a windows one that doesnt have any irc client on it | 10:25 |
croweboy | do you have yahoo or somehting | 10:25 |
PriceChild | croweboy, free xchat for windows: http://silverex.org/download/ | 10:36 |
croweboy | kk | 10:37 |
croweboy | one sec | 10:37 |
croweboy | have to turn it on | 10:38 |
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croweboy | lol | 10:48 |
croweboy | ill be back guys | 10:53 |
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Flannel | What's up RickH? | 11:38 |
RickH | Questions.... | 11:39 |
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RickH | I am wanting to pin the .29 release of 2.6.20-16 | 11:39 |
medfly | woah, this channel actually exists | 11:39 |
RickH | I assume I add entries to something. But I have no idea what to add. | 11:39 |
RickH | here is my problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=541929 | 11:41 |
RickH | Flannel: Any ideas? | 11:43 |
Flannel | RickH: alright, so, we actually don't have to edit anything to do pinning, just pass correct parameters to apt-get | 11:43 |
RickH | Flannel: How do we tell it to get a specific version (the .29 instead of .31)? | 11:44 |
Flannel | First, we're going to go ahead and remove linux-image-generic, since it'll cause problems with depending on .31 | 11:44 |
RickH | Flannel: That's the part I don't understand. | 11:44 |
RickH | Flannel: Okay. I can do that through synaptic? | 11:44 |
Flannel | You'll want to (once this is figured out), reinstall linux-generic, to continue updating | 11:44 |
Flannel | You can. Just remove linux-image-generic (it'll drag linux-generic with it) | 11:44 |
RickH | okay, removing | 11:45 |
RickH | removed | 11:45 |
Flannel | The man page we're referencnig is man apt_preferences, in case you want further reading | 11:45 |
RickH | okay | 11:45 |
Flannel | so, what we're going to do is tell apt that we want an older version (2.6.20-16.28) of linux-image-generic | 11:46 |
RickH | .29, but yes. | 11:46 |
Flannel | 29? sure. We're also going to do the same for linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic | 11:47 |
Flannel | which is the kernel itself | 11:47 |
RickH | I believe I had .29 previously. My VMware install is still showing .29, as are the restricted devices | 11:47 |
Flannel | hmm, we're going to need to do restricted as well. Why don't I see those packages.ubuntu.com? | 11:48 |
Flannel | Ah, there they are | 11:48 |
RickH | They're at the bottom of the backported page | 11:48 |
RickH | What is it you're doing right now? | 11:48 |
RickH | Are you gathering the correct package names for the versions? | 11:48 |
Flannel | We're also going to be pinning linux-restricted-modules-generic and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic | 11:49 |
Flannel | so, four packages to pin in total, all to the same version | 11:49 |
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RickH | Are they pinned at 2.6.20-16-generic once we've installed the .29 version? | 11:49 |
Flannel | er, they'll be pinned to the .29 version | 11:49 |
Flannel | They currently are 2.6.20-16-generic, just version 31 instead of 29 | 11:49 |
RickH | Okay, that's where you lose me. If we don't know the package names with the .29 part, how can we tell it to pin at that version? | 11:50 |
Flannel | hmm. restricted modules is shown as version .28.1 | 11:50 |
Flannel | What version of restricted modules do you have currently? | 11:50 |
RickH | checking synaptic | 11:50 |
Flannel | RickH: There's two version numbers in play here. One is part of the package name, the other is the actual version number. Like look here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/misc/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic | 11:51 |
RickH | "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic" and installed version "2.6.20.5-16.29" | 11:51 |
Flannel | The part in the parenthesis is the real verion number. The other is part of the name of the package | 11:51 |
Flannel | right, so, I ... don't think we need to revert restricted modules then | 11:51 |
RickH | right, it is correct | 11:51 |
RickH | but, I would like to have it pinned as well (so it won't break in the future) | 11:51 |
RickH | I'm happy with this version of Linux. I want to install various upgrades, just not kernel stuff. | 11:51 |
Flannel | alright. Well, that sound regression should be fixed sooner or later | 11:52 |
RickH | HEY! | 11:52 |
Flannel | but, I guess unpinning is just reinstalling linux-generic and removing our pins | 11:52 |
RickH | When I deleted the 2.6.20-16.31 linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic, now it's showing 2.6.20.15-27 is the current installed version | 11:52 |
RickH | Do I need to uninstall that one? | 11:52 |
Flannel | -15 and -16 | 11:53 |
Flannel | no | 11:53 |
Flannel | Don't delete .31 either | 11:53 |
Flannel | We're keeping the package installed, just lowering it's version number | 11:53 |
RickH | okay | 11:53 |
Flannel | so, for pinning, we're going to be creating /etc/apt/preferences, so go ahead and gksu "gedit /etc/apt/preferences" | 11:54 |
RickH | okay | 11:54 |
RickH | as root? | 11:54 |
Flannel | No, the gksu will take care of that | 11:54 |
RickH | I get about 40 lines of stuff like this in the command window: | 11:55 |
RickH | gedit /etc/apt/preferences | 11:55 |
RickH | ALSA lib confmisc.c:391:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings | 11:55 |
RickH | not the gedit line, that was in the clipboard by mistake. | 11:55 |
RickH | /etc/apt/preferences is up and empty | 11:55 |
Flannel | Did you use gksu with gedit? | 11:55 |
RickH | yes | 11:56 |
Flannel | ok | 11:56 |
Flannel | so, we're going to be modelling all of our pinning after the first example in the man page. the one re: perl and 5.8 | 11:56 |
RickH | rick@rick-desktop:~$ gksu gedit /etc/apt/preferences | 11:56 |
RickH | ALSA lib confmisc.c:670:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card '0' | 11:56 |
RickH | okay | 11:56 |
Flannel | we need a priority of at least 1000, because that's whats required for version downgrading. | 11:56 |
Flannel | so, make four copies of those three lines, and we'll modify them accordingly | 11:57 |
RickH | okay | 11:57 |
Flannel | I'm sure there's some nifty way of putting them all on the same, but I don't know it | 11:57 |
RickH | done | 11:57 |
RickH | no problem. | 11:57 |
RickH | if this works I'll be very happy. | 11:57 |
Flannel | So, for each of them, write the package name (linux-image-generic, linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic, etc) | 11:58 |
RickH | Package: perl | 11:58 |
RickH | Pin: version 5.8* | 11:58 |
RickH | Pin-Priority: 1001 | 11:58 |
RickH | 4 groups like that | 11:58 |
Flannel | Yeah. then for Package: change the text | 11:58 |
RickH | I didn't see your response. | 11:58 |
RickH | What are the other two names? | 11:58 |
Flannel | linux-restricted-modules-generic and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic | 11:59 |
RickH | Ah | 11:59 |
RickH | I thought you said we weren't doing those? But this is for pinning (so they won't be changed in the future)? | 11:59 |
Flannel | It wont hurt | 11:59 |
RickH | okay, done | 12:00 |
Flannel | so, for linux-imgage-version-generic, we want to pin it to version 2.6.20-16.29 | 12:00 |
Flannel | if 29 is the one you want (I have no idea) | 12:00 |
RickH | What's the paste code url? I'll paste what I have | 12:01 |
Flannel | for both items without version numbers (l-i-g and l-r-m-g) we want version 2.6.20-16.28.1 | 12:01 |
Flannel | Paste it once you're done, we'll see if yours matches my mental one | 12:01 |
Flannel | and then for l-r-m-version-g we want version 2.6.20.5-16.29 | 12:02 |
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RickH | http://www.pastecode.org/124 | 12:02 |
RickH | hold | 12:03 |
RickH | pasting again | 12:03 |
RickH | http://www.pastecode.org/126 | 12:03 |
Flannel | RickH: not quite. http://www.pastecode.org/125 | 12:03 |
Flannel | yeah | 12:04 |
RickH | I re-read your instructions | 12:04 |
RickH | okay, got it. | 12:04 |
Flannel | I'm getting those versions from packages.ubuntu.com | 12:04 |
RickH | Should I use the same versions I currently have installed in Synaptic since they're slightly different? | 12:04 |
Flannel | Alright, now, If you sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -s upgrade, what do you get? | 12:05 |
RickH | 2.6.20.5-16.29 | 12:05 |
RickH | Should I use .29 instead of .28-1? | 12:05 |
Flannel | Thats what we have in your pastebin, isnt it? | 12:05 |
RickH | .28.1? | 12:05 |
Flannel | which package is that for? | 12:05 |
RickH | lrm-v-g | 12:05 |
Flannel | really? | 12:05 |
RickH | yes | 12:05 |
RickH | I can send you a screen shot | 12:06 |
Flannel | Nah, I believe you. I don't know. It's up to you, you can always change later | 12:06 |
Flannel | Ah HA | 12:06 |
Flannel | http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20_2.6.20.5-16.29/changelog | 12:06 |
Flannel | Theres the changelog | 12:06 |
Flannel | so, yeah, looks like .5-16.29 is good | 12:07 |
RickH | I get this: | 12:07 |
RickH | Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2) | 12:07 |
RickH | Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2) | 12:07 |
RickH | Reading package lists... Done | 12:07 |
RickH | E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. | 12:07 |
Flannel | Anyway, that thing I just gave you, the update and upgrade with -s, will show you what changes it will make | 12:07 |
Flannel | We shouldn't have a problem using old indexes | 12:08 |
Flannel | did you save this file before doing that? | 12:08 |
RickH | yes | 12:08 |
RickH | rick@rick-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get -s upgrade | 12:08 |
RickH | Reading package lists... Done | 12:08 |
RickH | Building dependency tree | 12:08 |
RickH | Reading state information... Done | 12:08 |
RickH | The following packages have been kept back: | 12:08 |
RickH | linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic | 12:08 |
RickH | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. | 12:08 |
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