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LaserJock | afternoon MOTU Land! | 01:10 |
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ajmitch | hello LaserJock | 01:11 |
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nixternal | hiya LaserJock and ajmitch | 01:12 |
ajmitch | uh oh | 01:12 |
ajmitch | LaserJock: good to see some more behind motu posts | 01:13 |
nixternal | they just showed what they are doing in Sydney for the summit coming up...that is insane | 01:13 |
nixternal | yes, we need more behind * stuff...it is interesting...we also need to see pics in those articles... | 01:13 |
ajmitch | 'the summit'? | 01:14 |
nixternal | ya, something about bush and others meeting in Sydney | 01:14 |
LaserJock | nixternal: I did get work area/screenshot | 01:14 |
nixternal | yup, I like that :) | 01:14 |
LaserJock | I should try to get hackergotchis too I suppose | 01:14 |
ajmitch | definitely | 01:15 |
nixternal | or at least pics of who the person looks like | 01:15 |
ajmitch | which means that you definitely won't get me interviewed :) | 01:15 |
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nixternal | haha, I like that quit message | 01:15 |
LaserJock | ajmitch: I think I might have something that'll do somewhere ;-) | 01:15 |
nixternal | zenrox: nice quite message :) | 01:15 |
ajmitch | LaserJock: all lies | 01:16 |
LaserJock | so, giving KDE another spin today | 01:16 |
zenrox | like that | 01:16 |
LaserJock | I'm getting kinda tired of all the bugs in Feisty though (not specific to KDE) | 01:16 |
LaserJock | I might have to do a fresh install or something | 01:17 |
LaserJock | for some reason I stopped being able to logout in Gnome a week or so ago | 01:19 |
LaserJock | and it seems that my wifi doesn't come back up after resuming | 01:19 |
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LaserJock | nixternal: does KDE have any applet/tool that reads /proc/acpi temps? | 01:36 |
nixternal | quite a few | 01:36 |
nixternal | the best is Kima, it is a kicker applet that shows anything that can be monitored | 01:36 |
nixternal | and for a big app, similar to the old motherboard monitor is KSensors | 01:37 |
LaserJock | Ksensors doesn't work for me | 01:37 |
LaserJock | I just need a little kicker applet | 01:37 |
nixternal | with ksensors you need lm_sensors, that's why that doesn't work | 01:41 |
LaserJock | yeah | 01:41 |
LaserJock | just installed kima | 01:42 |
LaserJock | very nice | 01:42 |
LaserJock | why don't we have it in the repos? | 01:42 |
nixternal | http://www.nixternal.com/tmp/I_DONT_RUN_VISTA.png | 01:42 |
nixternal | kima is in the repos | 01:42 |
nixternal | see my kima running on the bottom | 01:42 |
nixternal | not for feisty maybe | 01:42 |
nixternal | !info kima | 01:42 |
ubotu | Package kima does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas | 01:42 |
nixternal | !info kima gutsy | 01:42 |
ubotu | kima: kicker monitoring applet. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.3.2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 114 kB, installed size 448 kB | 01:42 |
LaserJock | ah, excellent | 01:43 |
nixternal | you gotta install yakuake as well :) | 01:43 |
nixternal | no other terminal like it..however 1 note if you are really used to gnome terminal...you can just click on links in it and have it open up in a browser..the closes you can get is to enable klipper to recognize links and provide you with an option to open one | 01:44 |
nixternal | the next release of yakuake will have it though | 01:45 |
LaserJock | nixternal: how did you get it to do temp in C instead of F | 01:46 |
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nixternal | I never set my locale to imperial (US) | 01:47 |
nixternal | KMenu -> System Settings -> Regional & Language | 01:47 |
nixternal | under Country/Region & Language, the other tab has a measure system drop down, I have mine as "Metric" | 01:48 |
jmg | so how is kde looking for gutsy? i havent tested it | 01:48 |
nixternal | besides KDEPIM being quite broken, it isn't to bad | 01:48 |
nixternal | we went back to our roots, and went blue again :) | 01:49 |
jmg | when is kdepim not broken? | 01:49 |
LaserJock | nixternal: you mean, not purple? | 01:49 |
nixternal | true | 01:49 |
nixternal | no more purple in gutsy | 01:49 |
xtknight | say i have something like this. http://rafb.net/p/F6tCYz12.html the newer version in debian just fixes that one thing. instead of "backporting" that to a 0ubuntu1 version, can't/shouldn't we sync dfsg-2 of libvorbis from debian? | 01:49 |
LaserJock | nixternal: bah, why does KDE/QT have to look so darn ugly :-) | 01:50 |
nixternal | make it look the way you want | 01:50 |
LaserJock | I can't seem to | 01:50 |
nixternal | I enjoy the plastik theme..the default KDE theme..I don't need all that shiny and flashy crap | 01:50 |
jmg | LaserJock: because your face reflects in the screen | 01:51 |
nixternal | KMenu -> System Settings -> Appearance | 01:51 |
LaserJock | jmg: hehe, must be | 01:51 |
nixternal | jmg: hahahahah, pwnd! | 01:51 |
nixternal | that was good | 01:51 |
LaserJock | jmg: but I don't have a glossy screen ;-) | 01:51 |
nixternal | next time someone says "this DE is ugly" I will get um with that :) | 01:51 |
LaserJock | is there a way to compact it all | 01:52 |
jmg | LaserJock: because your face is so horrible you have ptsd and your brain actively redacts your viewport to remove it | 01:52 |
LaserJock | everything's just too big | 01:52 |
nixternal | like the kicker? | 01:52 |
LaserJock | like windows, controls, etc. | 01:52 |
jmg | :) | 01:52 |
nixternal | haha, I was gonna be an ass and say "just run your mouse over a border, click and drag it to the size you want" :p | 01:53 |
LaserJock | seems like I've got to scroll windows quite a bit | 01:53 |
nixternal | don't know how the windows look to big...mine are fine | 01:53 |
nixternal | what resolution are you using? | 01:53 |
LaserJock | 1024x768 I think | 01:54 |
nixternal | ya, they say KDE is for 1024x768, but I think they are wrong...I know what you are talking about | 01:54 |
nixternal | there is a way to shrink stuff down, but I am not positive on how that is...you know the best person to ask about tweaking the look, is Jucato | 01:55 |
nixternal | he freakin' knows all of the little kde tweaks | 01:55 |
LaserJock | my gosh, you guys seriously need to get ahold of your menus ;-) | 01:56 |
nixternal | huh? | 01:56 |
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LaserJock | they're a mess | 01:56 |
nixternal | what is wrong with the menus? | 01:56 |
nixternal | mine are beautiful | 01:57 |
LaserJock | mine take up the whole screen | 01:57 |
LaserJock | are really unorganized | 01:57 |
LaserJock | and "More Applications"? | 01:57 |
nixternal | I am running at 1280x800 and I don't have that problem at all | 01:57 |
LaserJock | who wants to go through all that | 01:57 |
nixternal | what is More Applications? | 01:58 |
jmg | i see emerald sort of works | 01:58 |
nixternal | oh, the bottom of the menu stuff...ya | 01:58 |
nixternal | LaserJock: why use menus anyways? every thing that is in your menus can be accessed with katapult | 01:58 |
LaserJock | nixternal: in some of the submenus they have a "More Appplications" submenu | 01:58 |
nixternal | alt+space and then start typing the app you want to open | 01:58 |
LaserJock | cause I don't know what I'm looking for | 01:59 |
nixternal | hehe | 01:59 |
nixternal | ya, I never understood that "More Applications" thing | 01:59 |
nixternal | especially when there is like one app in it at times | 01:59 |
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nixternal | LaserJock: go into #kubuntu-devel and just rip on kde...see what mhb and daskreach say :) | 02:01 |
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ryanakca | wwhat would the licence for http://weitz.de/regex-coach/ be? | 02:38 |
ScottK | ryanakca: It could go in mulitverse | 02:39 |
ryanakca | ScottK: okies | 02:40 |
ScottK | Due to the no commercial redistrbution clause in the license. | 02:40 |
ryanakca | and in debian/copyright, I just paste his license blurb? | 02:40 |
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ScottK | Yes | 02:41 |
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geser | it can't even go to multiverse as it's not redistributable | 02:43 |
geser | ryanakca: ^^ | 02:44 |
ScottK | geser: It is. | 02:45 |
ScottK | Wait. Reads again. | 02:45 |
geser | the small license blurb doesn't say it | 02:45 |
geser | All Rights Reserved even | 02:45 |
ScottK | Right. | 02:45 |
ScottK | ryanakca: Geser's right. | 02:45 |
geser | ryanakca: visual-regexp seems to be similar to this tool and is already in the archive | 02:49 |
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ryanakca | geser: ok, thanks :) | 03:34 |
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RAOF | Does anyone think I'd get anywhere with the texmacs devs complaining about their horrible, horrible, homebrew ui? I want a gtk2 texmacs, damnit! | 05:11 |
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TheMuso | 5~5~/c | 06:52 |
TheMuso | ugh | 06:52 |
RAOF | Wow, it's growing :) | 06:54 |
RAOF | Hey TheMuso :) | 06:54 |
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TheMuso | RAOF: heh | 07:05 |
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\sh | re | 07:14 |
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asisak | Good morning | 09:14 |
\sh | moins | 09:14 |
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dholbach | good morning | 09:16 |
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Hobbsee | morning dholbach | 09:17 |
dholbach | hey Hobbsee | 09:17 |
=== \sh fixed backstep just now.... | ||
superm1 | \sh, what was wrong with backstep? | 09:19 |
\sh | superm1, it can't find the pkg configs for xdamage xcomposite etc....but the deps are there...so I set RENDER_CFLAGS and RENDER_LIBS so it can compile cleanly...seeing that the pkg call for gtk is right and shows all needed libs, i think that's the best workaround right now | 09:20 |
superm1 | \sh, oh you probably mean for lpia then right? | 09:20 |
\sh | superm1, nope...ubuntu... | 09:21 |
\sh | superm1, http://people.debian.org/~lucas/logs/2007/08/28/drip_0.9.0-4ubuntu1_gutsy32.buildlog | 09:21 |
\sh | aegl | 09:21 |
\sh | http://people.debian.org/~lucas/logs/2007/08/28/backstep_0.3-0ubuntu2_gutsy32.buildlog | 09:21 |
\sh | that's the right one | 09:21 |
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superm1 | ah | 09:22 |
superm1 | yea i see looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/backstep/0.3-0ubuntu2, it wasn't ever rebuilt for gutsy on any arch except the failed lpia | 09:22 |
jmg | backstep? | 09:22 |
asisak | !info backstep gutsy | jmg | 09:23 |
ubotu | jmg: backstep: Draws icons for minimized windows on your desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 28 kB, installed size 120 kB | 09:23 |
\sh | superm1, I'm filing a bug with the debdiff...so it can be uploaded later on | 09:23 |
jmg | strange program | 09:24 |
superm1 | \sh, can you subscribe me on the bug, i'll build/test it in the near future | 09:24 |
superm1 | jmg, it was quite useful when using Xgl, devilspie, and an extra window manager running above Xgl | 09:24 |
jmg | :) | 09:25 |
\sh | superm1, you lp name? | 09:25 |
superm1 | \sh, 'superm1' :) | 09:26 |
\sh | *g* | 09:26 |
\sh | ah LP is a bit bitchy today | 09:26 |
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superm1 | okay bed for me for a bit, nn. thx \sh | 09:26 |
\sh | superm1, subscribed you and u-u-s | 09:27 |
asisak | I can also take care of things while superm1 is sleeping :) | 09:27 |
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RAOF | I seem to remember a build of emacs with xfont support. Is there some good reason our emacs22 packages don't seem to have it? | 09:37 |
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asisak | \sh: should I upload your fix? Or better wait for superm1? | 09:41 |
\sh | asisak, well, upload it...if it's not working correctly (what I don't think) I'll fix it anyways :) | 09:42 |
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asisak | Seems to be an ugly & working hack. | 09:46 |
\sh | asisak, correct..but works :) | 09:59 |
asisak | Sure :) | 09:59 |
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\sh | asisak, we have to have look (for hardy e.g.) to fix libxcomposite and friends to play with pkgconfig nicely | 09:59 |
asisak | Maybe it would be better to fix it for gutsy as well. | 10:00 |
\sh | asisak, when you build this package, you can see that it catches all libs correctly for gtk pkg-config...but not for composite and friends | 10:00 |
asisak | So that we can handle possible bugfixes | 10:00 |
\sh | asisak, tbh..I think it's more an issue with backstep handling this pkgconfig stuff...when you read the configure.in it's also an ugly hack somehow...I'm not a pkgconfig pro...so it's just a feeling | 10:02 |
asisak | Yeah, I had the same feeling. Therefore I suggested to fix pkgconfig once and not hack packages many times ... | 10:03 |
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\sh | if someone has time: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dumputils/+bug/136949 ready for upload ;) | 10:24 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 136949 in dumputils "[FTBFS] dumputils" [Undecided,New] | 10:24 |
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\sh | moins ogra | 10:27 |
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ogra | hey hey | 10:27 |
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asisak | \sh: don't you consider to become a MOTU again? | 10:30 |
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\sh | asisak, well, I don't think nobody will cheer for me this time...;) | 10:31 |
asisak | You think that nobody would or you don't think that anybody would? :) | 10:32 |
\sh | asisak, tbh, I need to become a member first, and that's one of the problems... | 10:32 |
asisak | \sh: no. Not any more. | 10:33 |
asisak | You can mail the MOTU council and apply for a MOTUship | 10:33 |
\sh | without becoming a member? | 10:33 |
asisak | (that involves membership as well) | 10:33 |
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\sh | asisak, let's see...after october ;) | 10:33 |
=== asisak would certainly cheer. | ||
=== asisak has uploaded your dumputils fix. | ||
\sh | asisak, if you be so kind: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dvr/+bug/136951 ;) | 10:36 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 136951 in dvr "[FTBFS] dvr" [Undecided,New] | 10:36 |
asisak | Okay. In fact I have to do a lot of things, but I can dget && pbuilder && dpkg inbetween. So feel free to bug me with FTBFS bugs. | 10:37 |
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\sh | asisak, well, I subscribe u-u-s all the time...so ;) | 10:42 |
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asisak | But sure, it is The Right Thing (TM) | 10:43 |
asisak | hmm... dvr segfaults if there is no video device | 10:45 |
\sh | if it's building, that is more then ok now ;) I can't test dvr, too :( | 10:45 |
asisak | \sh: does it work (well) for you? | 10:45 |
asisak | Oh. Okay. It is building for sure. Let their users do the testing. Uploading... | 10:46 |
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\sh | asisak, thx | 10:55 |
asisak | \sh: np :) | 10:55 |
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Q-FUNK | dholbach: for planner, I see that the older gda is still available in main, so why disable support for it? | 11:29 |
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dholbach | Q-FUNK: we'll drop it from main, if it's still there | 11:31 |
TheMuso | dholbach: I see you didn't get around to uploading gnome-speech yet. Mind doing so? http://www.themuso.id.au/ubuntu/gnome-speech | 11:32 |
dholbach | sorry, you should have asked in #ubuntu-desktop or something | 11:32 |
StevenK | TheMuso, dholbach: I can do so in about an hour if you wish | 11:32 |
dholbach | no need to be blocked on me | 11:32 |
dholbach | TheMuso: will do so | 11:32 |
TheMuso | ok | 11:32 |
=== TheMuso shoudl read up on he desktop team process for stuff like that. :) | ||
dholbach | TheMuso: no, just ask anybody in #ubuntu-de{vel,sktop} to sponsor | 11:34 |
dholbach | or use the normal sponsoring workflow | 11:34 |
dholbach | but I'm doing it now :) | 11:34 |
TheMuso | ok | 11:34 |
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dholbach | TheMuso: done | 11:37 |
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TheMuso | dholbach: Thanks, and sorry for the bother. | 11:41 |
dholbach | no, no need to worry :) | 11:41 |
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\sh | if someone is interested in sponsoring one upload for ftbfs fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gbdfed/+bug/136968 :) if not, u-u-s is subscribed | 11:59 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 136968 in gbdfed "[FTBFS] gbdfed" [Undecided,New] | 11:59 |
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asisak | \sh: gbdfed uploaded | 12:13 |
\sh | asisak, thx :) | 12:16 |
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norsetto | g'day all | 12:22 |
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norsetto | asisak: morning ex-coNP :-) | 12:23 |
geser | Hi norsetto | 12:25 |
norsetto | geser: hi! | 12:25 |
norsetto | I have to confess a big sin ... I moved to kubuntu ;-) | 12:26 |
asisak | norsetto: is it for real? | 12:26 |
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norsetto | asisak: yeah ... still trying to get used to it though | 12:26 |
\sh | I wonder how debians QA is working | 12:28 |
\sh | test -z "/usr/share/pixmaps" || mkdir -p -- "/build/user/gfpoken-0.29/debian/tmp/usr/share/pixmaps" | 12:28 |
\sh | /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 './png/gfpoken.png' '/build/user/gfpoken-0.29/debian/tmp/usr/share/pixmaps/gfpoken.png' | 12:28 |
\sh | /usr/bin/install: cannot stat `./png/gfpoken.png': No such file or directory | 12:28 |
\sh | and it's really not in the orig.tar.gz | 12:28 |
asisak | isn't that in some uuencoded file? | 12:29 |
asisak | .diff.gz cannot contain any binary files IIRC | 12:29 |
\sh | asisak, nope | 12:29 |
\sh | asisak, it's not in debian/ dir as well...so it disappeared somehow... | 12:29 |
norsetto | the best for me so far was this package where the guy added an icon and desktop file and only forgot to install them. So after a while and a bug report a new version was out, with the desktop file. And he still forgot the icon :-) | 12:32 |
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\sh | ah it's fixed already in debian...I file a sync report ;) | 12:35 |
\sh | when LP is responding again | 12:35 |
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norsetto | LP seems to be there for me? | 12:36 |
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\sh | grmpf...problem on my firefox side... | 12:37 |
\sh | (sync) bug 136974 and (upload) bug 136973 :) thx | 12:38 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 136974 in gfpoken "[FTBFS] gfpoken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136974 | 12:38 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 136973 in gdpc "[FTBFS] gdpc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136973 | 12:38 |
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asisak | cd debian/tmp/usr/share/pixmaps \ | 12:51 |
asisak | && pngtopnm gfpoken.png | ppmtoxpm -name icon > gfpoken.xpm | 12:51 |
asisak | pngtopnm: gfpoken.png - No such file or directory | 12:51 |
asisak | ppmtoxpm: EOF / read error reading magic number | 12:51 |
asisak | make: *** [install-stamp] Error 1 | 12:51 |
asisak | pbuilder: Failed autobuilding of package | 12:51 |
asisak | \sh: ^^^ | 12:51 |
asisak | that is sudo pbuilder the gfpoken_0.30-1.dsc [on gutsy] | 12:52 |
asisak | gotta go for now, be back later in the afternoon | 12:52 |
\sh | asisak, argl...it should be fixed by this bug report | 12:52 |
\sh | ok...I'll fix it manually...grmpf | 12:53 |
\sh | does anybody know what the replacement header of awe_voice.h is? | 12:54 |
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\sh | lol...the xpm is not even in the diff.gz of debian ;) | 01:00 |
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white | ajmitch: regarding #435936, i got someone from the testing-security team who wants to nmu it, but i wanted to ask you first | 01:06 |
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white | am I right, when I assume that wine would probably not be running medieval war2? | 01:17 |
norsetto | white: did you check the wine db? | 01:18 |
white | yes | 01:19 |
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RAOF | Hm. So it seems xserver-xgl is more crackful than I thought. :( | 01:36 |
RAOF | bug #136962 | 01:37 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 136962 in xserver-xgl "Session file left after uninstall breaks X" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136962 | 01:37 |
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\sh | ok..gfpoken fixed | 01:39 |
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RAOF | So, my plan here is to install the session file into /usr/share/xserver-xgl, and add a prerm & postinst to copy/remove it to the appropriate place. | 01:45 |
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Nafallo | ScottK: ping SPF | 02:12 |
Nafallo | ScottK: sent mail | 02:16 |
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deadwill | mornin' all | 02:18 |
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RAOF | Hey, anyone here using the fglrx drivers? | 02:35 |
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RAOF | And if so, can you tell me whether they install a file into /etc/X11/Xsession.d, and what it contains? | 02:36 |
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deadwill | RAOF, better to ask on #ubuntu | 02:39 |
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RAOF | LongPointyStick: Howdie. You don't happen to use fglrx? :) | 02:42 |
ogra | RAOF, i do ... no trace of fglrx in /etc/X11/Xsession.d | 02:43 |
ogra | (gutsy) | 02:43 |
RAOF | Gah. | 02:43 |
RAOF | Xgl is not quite as happy as I'd hoped :/ | 02:44 |
LongPointyStick | RAOF: nope. intel card | 02:44 |
zul | hey LongPointyStick | 02:44 |
LongPointyStick | hi zul | 02:45 |
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deadwill | LongPointyStick, new nick? | 02:49 |
LongPointyStick | deadwill: this is my alternate nick. | 02:50 |
deadwill | ah | 02:50 |
zul | i swear to god i get more done at home then work | 02:50 |
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zul | !uvf | zul | 02:52 |
zul | !uvf | 02:52 |
ubotu | uvf is Upstream Version Freeze. For an exception, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#head-9523bc4076ff011324d67cddc97969ec609618d6 | 02:52 |
ogra | zul, do you have an idea about bug 134865 ? | 02:54 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 134865 in ltsp "segfaults on ltsp in xen dom0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134865 | 02:54 |
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zul | ogra, no idea since there is nothing really in the bug report to go by, however then is a re-synced xen kernel coming soon | 02:55 |
ogra | zul, x11-common fails with a segfault ... (but works fine on normal systems it seems) | 02:56 |
zul | weird still no idea | 02:56 |
zul | maybe you need libc6-xen | 02:56 |
ogra | hmm | 02:56 |
ogra | the host system should have that ... do you need it in chroots ? | 02:57 |
zul | nope | 02:57 |
ogra | (ltsp-build-client is building a chroot with debootstrap and then chroots into that system and installs x etc) | 02:58 |
zul | if they can get a a trace of whats going on that would be helpful | 02:58 |
ogra | i'll try to get some info | 02:58 |
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RAOF | Ok. I'll fix Xgl tomorrow! | 03:06 |
StevenK | RAOF: Did you see the shiny shiny crack that I uploaded a little while ago? | 03:07 |
soren | dendrobates: /win 4 | 03:08 |
soren | ffs... | 03:08 |
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norsetto | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=197 and http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=200 are up for review (they are simple updates). | 03:23 |
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norsetto | is there any debian/ubuntu archive where one can find packages from 2004 (warty/sarge)? | 03:30 |
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jrib | old-releases.ubuntu.com should have warty | 03:30 |
fernando_ | moin all | 03:31 |
jrib | norsetto: | 03:31 |
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norsetto | jrib: exactly what I needed, thx | 03:33 |
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jeromeg | Hobbsee: can I bother you two seconds ? I need a second ACK for my UVF | 04:09 |
Hobbsee | jeromeg: not at the moment, sorry | 04:10 |
jeromeg | Hobbsee: can I give you the bug number so you can have a look another day ? | 04:10 |
Hobbsee | is it in the queue? | 04:10 |
jeromeg | I'm starting high school tomorrow and wont be available | 04:10 |
jeromeg | Hobbsee: yep | 04:10 |
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jeromeg | Hobbsee: motu-uvf are suscribed and ScottK gave one ACK | 04:11 |
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Hobbsee | cool | 04:13 |
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jeromeg | Hobbsee: so I don't have to do anything else ? | 04:14 |
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Hobbsee | correct | 04:15 |
norsetto | dholbach: ping? | 04:16 |
dholbach | norsetto: in the CC meeting atm - can you drop me a mail or ask in PM? | 04:17 |
dholbach | I'll get back to you | 04:17 |
jeromeg | Hobbsee: great, thx | 04:17 |
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ryanakca | dch -e -i should update the changelog? | 04:18 |
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eagles0513875 | Hobbsee: hey | 04:19 |
Hobbsee | hi... | 04:20 |
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\sh | hmm...any gtk people out there, who can tell me what this is all about? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36185/ | 04:36 |
xtknight | \sh, just looks like an error in someone's configure file to me | 04:37 |
geser | \sh: can you pastebin line 22087 +/- some lines from configure? | 04:38 |
\sh | geser, hmm...need to build it in a chroot then....not pbuilder... | 04:38 |
geser | I guess some parts from configure.in didn't get translated and ended verbatim in configure | 04:38 |
\sh | geser, I had to rebuild the autofoo crap...can it be, that it needs a higher gtk-doc version? e.g. GTK_DOC(1.x where x > 4) or something? | 04:40 |
geser | that should only fail the check but not produce a syntax error | 04:41 |
\sh | what gives autofoo the GTK_DOC macro? gtk-doc-tools? | 04:42 |
geser | I'd guess gtk-doc-tools | 04:42 |
\sh | hmmm.... | 04:43 |
\sh | root@LT420:/usr/share# find . -type f -exec grep -H "GTK_DOC" {} \; | 04:43 |
\sh | ./doc/gtk-doc-tools/setting-up.txt: GTK_DOC_CHECK(1.0) | 04:43 |
geser | which package are you trying to fix? | 04:44 |
\sh | gpredict | 04:45 |
\sh | I need to remove the G*_DISABLE_DEPRECATED defines from Makefile.am and need to rebuild complete autofoo | 04:45 |
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\sh | geser, and the error comes from goocanvas inside gpredict | 04:48 |
geser | \sh: why not simply patching Makefile.in (and Makefile.am in case someone else needs to rebuild Makefile.in) and don't bother with regenerating the whole stuff? | 04:48 |
geser | \sh: looking on lucas' build log, it seems removeing GTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED from src/Makefile.{am,in} should be enough | 04:50 |
\sh | geser, I did...called autoreconf but the configure error comes from goocanvas which has it's own configure stuff...which I didn't touch | 04:50 |
\sh | and configure.in of goocanvas says: GTK_DOC(1.4) which failes in configure (not rebuilded by me) | 04:51 |
\sh | oh what wonder | 04:52 |
\sh | build-dep on gtk-doc-tools and it compiles ,) | 04:52 |
soren | StevenK: Have you tried building virtualbox on an amd64 system? | 04:52 |
\sh | geser: fixed, thanks for your help :) | 04:53 |
StevenK | soren: Yes | 04:53 |
StevenK | soren: It built on both i386 and amd64 before I uploaded it. | 04:53 |
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soren | StevenK: Odd.. It ftbfs on my amd64. | 04:54 |
StevenK | soren: Using my source? | 04:54 |
soren | StevenK: No, the Debian one. I fetched it before you uploaded it. | 04:55 |
soren | I though you just added an adduser dependency. | 04:55 |
soren | ? | 04:55 |
StevenK | soren: Nope, I had to do more. | 04:55 |
soren | StevenK: Ah, yes, now I see. | 04:56 |
soren | StevenK: Ok, yes, that looks like something that would fix it :) | 04:56 |
geser | \sh: I only needed to remove the GTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED lines from src/Makefile.{am,in} to get it build (no need to run autoreconf) | 04:56 |
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geser | \sh: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36189/ is all I changed (+ changelog and maintainer change) | 04:58 |
\sh | geser, ah you changed it manually ;) | 04:58 |
\sh | geser, I wonder if we have today a rule how to deal with autofoo crap (rebuidling during build-time, or patching *.{in,am} files), i prefer the first I mentioned | 05:00 |
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StevenK | soren: I honestly don't see how the Debian maintainer managed to build it in a clean chroot, which makes me think he didn't. | 05:02 |
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\sh | wtf? I just see, that my window decoration is gone | 05:03 |
soren | StevenK: Yeah.. I've always thought binary uploads are a bad idea. | 05:03 |
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geser | \sh: if the change is small I prefer to do it manually. This avoids problems with autoreconf, keeps the delta small and is easier to merge later | 05:17 |
geser | \sh: as I've a fixed gpredict ready should I upload it now? | 05:17 |
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\sh | geser, ok with me...just close bug 137021 :) | 05:32 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 137021 in gpredict "[FTBFS] gpredict" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137021 | 05:32 |
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\sh | geser, thx for uploading... | 05:45 |
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dholbach | imtheface: can you join #ubuntu-meeting ? | 05:45 |
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johanbr__ | Hmm. Why is everything except "Overview" greyed out if I go to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+package/vpnc ? | 06:09 |
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Hobbsee | because launchpad operates by source package for everything else | 06:10 |
StevenK | Because that's a binary package, and bugs and such like are related to source packages. | 06:10 |
johanbr__ | Yes, I just found the right page. :) Thanks. | 06:10 |
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tuxmaniac | PriceChild, | 07:01 |
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PriceChild | Hello? | 07:02 |
tuxmaniac | can ubuntu loco team irc channel ops join the irc team? | 07:02 |
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PriceChild | tuxmaniac, #ubuntu-ops please | 07:09 |
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tonyyarusso | Do the archive admins have an irc channel or anything where one could observe them processing things? | 07:19 |
deadwill | tonyyarusso, you mean the queue? | 07:20 |
tonyyarusso | deadwill: More detailed than that, preferably. ie, where I could tell when there's actually a human looking at a package and pondering whether to ACCEPT or REJECT, and when, etc. | 07:21 |
deadwill | you could ask on #ubuntu-devel for that | 07:22 |
tonyyarusso | hmmm | 07:23 |
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moquist | I'd like to create a [different] package with an /etc/init.d/script and an /etc/default/config file. I looked at another package that has those (mpd) and it was non-obvious to me how they are handled. Can anybody give me any tips? | 08:31 |
moquist | ignore "different" up there...this is a re-post from another channel. | 08:31 |
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LaserJock | moquist: I'm not sure if http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html#s-sysvinit would help or not | 08:54 |
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moquist | LaserJock: I think it might. It looks like I may need to run update-rc.d, etc., directly in the postinst(?). I wasn't sure about that. | 08:56 |
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nixternal | LaserJock: you check out the comments to the "one'ness"? | 08:56 |
LaserJock | nixternal: yes, writting my "rebuttal" as we speak ;-) | 08:56 |
nixternal | hahaha | 08:56 |
nixternal | rock on...all of the comments were pretty good, except for one, who is always rude to others | 08:57 |
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nixternal | he thinks his poo don't stink :) | 08:57 |
nixternal | eww | 08:57 |
geser | moquist: if you are using debhelper, look also at dh_installinit | 09:00 |
moquist | Ooooooooo. That sounds promising. | 09:00 |
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LaserJock | nixternal: alright, it's up at http://laserjock.wordpress.com/2007/09/03/when-choice-is-no-choice-at-all/ | 09:52 |
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bmhm | hi everyone. When will "pidgin" (earlier gaim) be released to the repos? | 11:19 |
bmhm | *formerly gaim | 11:19 |
Nafallo | they are in the repos | 11:19 |
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bmhm | i can't find any when i look for pidgin - i got ALL repos enabled | 11:20 |
Nafallo | bmhm: even the development edition? | 11:20 |
bmhm | dunno - i got feisty and searched for pidgin. Nothing found at all | 11:20 |
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LaserJock | bmhm: Feisty was released with gaim | 11:22 |
LaserJock | bmhm: the current development version, gutsy, has pidgin | 11:23 |
Nafallo | bmhm: at the time we had upstream freeze in gaim was the name. | 11:23 |
bmhm | ah I see. | 11:23 |
bmhm | well it's just because a guy asked in #ubuntu-de | 11:23 |
bmhm | and I couldn't tell him until I found out he compiled pidgin hisself :D | 11:23 |
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mok0_ | Pidgin is in gutsy | 11:32 |
mok0_ | pidgin: | 11:33 |
mok0_ | Installed: 1:2.1.1-1ubuntu1 | 11:33 |
mok0_ | Candidate: 1:2.1.1-2ubuntu2 | 11:33 |
mok0_ | Version table: | 11:33 |
mok0_ | 1:2.1.1-2ubuntu2 0 | 11:33 |
mok0_ | 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Packages | 11:33 |
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bmhm | gnu8 all :-) | 11:39 |
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soc | hi | 11:53 |
soc | how likely is it that we will get gimp 2.4 in gutsy? | 11:53 |
soc | seems the gimp devs are already preparing their website relaunch (looks amazing) | 11:53 |
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soc | anyone?? | 11:58 |
deadwill | bye all | 11:58 |
deadwill | o/ | 11:58 |
DktrKranz | soc, I think you will have to wait for hardy | 12:00 |
azeem | soc: gimp is in main, not universe | 12:00 |
soc | ah ok | 12:01 |
soc | ubuntu+1 told me to ask in motu ... | 12:02 |
azeem | dunno | 12:02 |
soc | DktrKranz: ok, hopefully it will get through ... less unnessecary bugreports ... | 12:03 |
soc | they released rc2 today | 12:03 |
DktrKranz | soc, gutsy will be ready on October 18th and I fear it will not be available unless strong rationale | 12:05 |
geser | based on that gimp is a devel version currently (with a big warning) it may be possible that gutsy will have gimp 2.4 (if it releases on time) | 12:05 |
geser | soc: try asking seb128 or dholbach in #ubuntu-desktop about their plans for gimp in gutsy (during the european day) | 12:07 |
soc | ok | 12:11 |
soc | ok thx | 12:12 |
blueyed | Can someone help me with bug 91607? Should the action "start" not fail? Or should dh_installinit add a call to "restart" instead? | 12:16 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 91607 in postfix-policyd "postfix-policyd init script doesn't behave" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91607 | 12:16 |
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blueyed | This blocks bug 136687 (CVE) | 12:16 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 136687 in postfix-policyd "buffer overflow in w_read function (possible DoS and execution of arbitary code)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136687 | 12:16 |
geser | blueyed: I'd say it's a bug in the init script: "The init.d scripts must ensure that they will behave sensibly if invoked with start when the service is already running [...] " (from the Debian policy, section 9.3.2) | 12:33 |
blueyed | Thanks, geser. I've just checked this with apache. | 12:34 |
blueyed | But the problem is still stat it does not get restarted, which it should - during upgrade.. | 12:34 |
blueyed | Otherwise the security fix would not get applied/used.. | 12:34 |
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