[01:42] <MythbuntuGuest30> i did an apt-get update and now my remote doesnt work, shoudl i just reinstall?
[01:42] <MythbuntuGuest30> if i use /etc/init.d/lirc start it tells me it cant load the modules
[01:52] <Daviey> MythbuntuGuest30: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty
[01:53] <Daviey> "Rebuild Modules"
[01:53] <Daviey> at the bottom
[02:02] <Alowishus> yeah what's with the new kernel in apt?  it's still -16?
[02:38] <MythbuntuGuest30> so i did a reinstall since i had such good success with the base installer and got everything running
[02:39] <MythbuntuGuest30> then i tried to use restricted-manager to enable my nvidia drivers
[02:39] <MythbuntuGuest30> it cant get the file, so i went to the website it pointed to and sure enough the file didnt exist
[02:39] <MythbuntuGuest30> is there a way to update what restricted-manager should be looking for?
[02:39] <MythbuntuGuest30> or is that just an apt-get install update?
[02:39] <MythbuntuGuest30> and then hope i can get my remote working easily
[02:40] <Daviey> MythbuntuGuest30: Ah.. that sounds like a bug that will effect all gutsy users
[02:41] <Daviey> not just mythbuntu, but ubuntu aswell
[02:41] <Daviey> Being that it effects so many people, an update should be out soon
[02:42] <Daviey> ie sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:44] <MythbuntuGuest30> so running those three commands should allow me to get the latest nvidia drivers?
[02:45] <MythbuntuGuest30> and then ill have the follow the above instructions to *hopefully* get my remote to work again
[02:47] <Daviey> MythbuntuGuest30: I'm not promising regarding the driver
[02:47] <Daviey> but i suspect that's what it is
[02:48] <Daviey> failing that, see if this helps
[02:48] <Daviey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:48] <MythbuntuGuest30> why would they delete the old deb and add a new one so quickly?
[02:48] <MythbuntuGuest30> is that common?
[02:51] <Daviey> hmm
[02:52] <Daviey> I'm not too familar with restricted-drivers and nvidia tbh
[02:52] <Daviey> Gutsy is unstable atm, and Mythuntu ISO is based from a snapshot of Gutsy
[02:57] <MythbuntuGuest30> oh good point, forgot mythbuntu was based on gutsy
[03:02] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all .. Finally snagged Alpha4 and it is running (with a little dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg to get it to show up on TV.
[03:03] <NineTeen67Comet> But now, I try to double click the install icon and it just changes color with each click, and goes back .. Is there a script I can fire up via cli that will install?
[03:03] <bendailey> Daviey, hello
[03:03] <NineTeen67Comet> I tried herd 5 of gutsy and it has the same xorg issues.. Totally dies when I try to get nvidia going .. glx or glx-new ..
[03:07] <NineTeen67Comet> Daviey: Is there a cli install for MythBuntu? .. My icon on the desktop is inop ..
[03:08] <Daviey> NineTeen67Comet: no.. we are working on it tho
[03:08] <NineTeen67Comet> Hummmm .. Okay .. No problem .. Like a Alternate install cd ala MythBuntu?
[03:09] <Daviey> NineTeen67Comet: You can install Ubuntu alternate; then add the mythbuntu packages tho
[03:09] <Daviey> <--- bed, nn
[03:10] <NineTeen67Comet> Oh, that's an idea .. Gutsy has issues with my box (I've only got a tv hooked to it) .. Feisty ran "well" .. could I do that? Toss Feisty back on, then use the mythbuntu packages?
[03:10] <NineTeen67Comet> G'night
[03:12] <Daviey> NineTeen67Comet: before i go... the new Mythtv packages have been built for feisty
[03:13] <Daviey> nn
[03:13] <NineTeen67Comet> okay thank you for the heads up .. I'll toss feisty on there, upgrade to gutsy (try to get around the xorg issue) and go from there.. g'night
[04:19] <defendguin> Daviey: no that wasn't the option i was looking for
[04:19] <defendguin> superm1: would know
[04:26] <defendguin> Daviey: overscanning is what i was talking about
[04:46] <MythbuntuGuest30> base install mythbuntu works great except i cant install nvidia drivers, so i update to get my nvidia drivers working and then i cant use my remote
[04:46] <MythbuntuGuest30> my remote is an hauppauge card, does this mean i should have /dev/lirc0 ?
[04:47] <MythbuntuGuest30> dmesg | grep lirc has 1 line that says the device loaded and the next complains about unregister plugin
[04:47] <MythbuntuGuest30> im not sure if that matters or not, maybe my issue is still that i dont have lirc0
[04:50] <defendguin> mario you around?
[04:51] <superm1> defendguin, only briefly
[04:51] <superm1> what you need?
[04:51] <superm1> quick ? i hope :)
[04:52] <defendguin> nvidia card over scanning
[04:52] <defendguin> i remember there was a way to get it to auto adjust
[04:52] <defendguin> nvidia-settings  ??
[04:53] <superm1> nvidia-settings
[04:53] <superm1> yes
[04:53] <superm1> only works on tv out however
[04:53] <defendguin> ohhhhh
[04:53] <superm1> is this dvi/hdmi?
[04:53] <defendguin> i switched an hooked up to a projector and i have a black bar on the left hand side of the screen
[04:54] <defendguin> using normal monitor cable
[04:55] <superm1> adjust the overscan via the projector settings typically
[04:55] <defendguin> hmmmm
[04:56] <defendguin> dont see it there
[04:57] <defendguin> ok i'm getting it
[04:58] <defendguin> oh but i have bars on both right and left now
[04:58] <defendguin> i could move the image
[04:58] <defendguin> hmmm  ok i'm getting it
[04:59] <defendguin> thanks mario
[05:01] <defendguin> i wonder why the auto image messes up the size
[05:05] <superm1> ya no prob
[05:05] <superm1> have a good one
[05:30] <tapH20guru> Long time Knopmyth user ... now have to upgrade to 0.20.2 .. I'd love to jump to mythbuntu
[05:30] <tapH20guru> is it stable enought for wife and kids?
[05:33] <tapH20guru> if I install the alpha... is it easy to upgrade later to beta... final?
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #130641 in mythbuntu "Apache installed on Frontend installation" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/130641
[10:48] <Daviey> morning DaveMorris
[11:06] <DaveMorris> morning Daviey
[11:07] <Daviey> DaveMorris: demand was huge for A4
[11:07] <Daviey> I provided >38Gb in just a few hours after release :o
[11:44] <DaveMorris> cool
[11:44] <DaveMorris> not mnay people got it via torrents though :P
[11:48] <hexxeh|work> torrents are slower, in most cases
[11:48] <hexxeh|work> and certainly more hard work
[11:50] <Daviey> hmm
[11:50] <Daviey> not sure i agree
[11:50] <Daviey> popey was seeding from the same datacentre, and i have pushed 4Gb from home seeding
[11:52] <hexxeh|work> unless there's some nasty throttling going on, a solid http download on a home adsl line is just less fussing about than getting a torrent client going, making sure all your port forwarding settings are behaving today, and waiting about for some fast seeds
[11:52] <hexxeh|work> plus there are those who can't use bittorrent, e.g. it's not permitted here
[12:00] <Daviey> hexxeh|work: you shouldn't need to portforward just to leech
[12:00] <Daviey> only to seed
[01:02] <koslow> moin moin
[01:03] <koslow> is mythtv-sc supported hier
[01:07] <hexxeh|work> softcams? i sincerely doubt it
[01:08] <koslow> aber sacs-ng ? hexxeh|work
[01:10] <koslow> https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/sascng/wiki/Ubuntubuild hexxeh|work :-)
[01:12] <hexxeh|work> i don't say it doesn't exist, i say anyone who doesn't want to get sued doesn't discuss or support softcams
[01:15] <koslow> ok hexxeh|work
[01:15] <koslow> thx
[01:50] <Daviey> laga: I was thinking about your WOL script
[01:51] <Daviey> .. rather than wait until mythfrontend tries to connect.. why not fire off the WOL packet at frontend boot time?
[01:52] <laga> Daviey: that's possible of course. however, this frontend is not a dedicated one but my main box as well
[01:52] <Daviey> oic
[01:52] <laga> for my dedicated frontend, i'll likely do just that and configure the mythfrontend wol support as backup
[04:34] <cornel1> Still having trouble with my Hauppauge remote.  Myth doesn't respond to "Back/Exit".  irw reports receiving the button press.  I've the lircrc that myth installed, and I ran mythtv remote configuration script.  Any ideas?
[04:49] <cornel1> Hi DaveMorris, how are you doing?
[04:49] <DaveMorris> a bit sunburnt after fishing yesterday
[04:49] <cornel1> Catch anything?
[04:49] <DaveMorris> damm water magnifies and reflects the sun
[04:50] <cornel1> Yup
[04:50] <DaveMorris> not much tbh.  1lb 7oz.  It was a team match so we won on the day, and have a nice margin over our major rivals
[04:50] <cornel1> Cool
[04:50] <DaveMorris> the tide was wrong IMO for the match
[04:51] <cornel1> I don't suppose you use a hauppauge remote?
[04:51] <cornel1> Well, everyone suffered from the tide problem ;-)
[04:51] <DaveMorris> I also draw in the worse section weight wise.  I did with the supplied red eye
[04:52] <cornel1> I've no idea what that means ;-)
[04:54] <DaveMorris> I used the remote with the infared 'eye' that was supplied and plugged into my tuner card.
[04:55] <laga> wtf
[04:55] <laga> i just thought "red eye" was some kind of fish bait
[04:55] <cornel1> Not to be repetitious, but, you weren't herewhen I posted this a few minutes ago...
[04:55] <cornel1> Still having trouble with my Hauppauge remote.  Myth doesn't respond to "Back/Exit".  irw reports receiving the button press.  I've the lircrc that myth installed, and I ran mythtv remote configuration script.  Any ideas?
[04:56] <DaveMorris> yeah, gaim had crashed somehow
[04:56] <DaveMorris> is back/exit mapped to the wrong thing, can you pastebin the lircd file?
[04:58] <cornel1> lircd file, not lircrc?  Where might I find that, will find.. lircd find it?
[05:01] <DaveMorris> busy atm
[05:01] <DaveMorris> sorry, boss just came in
[05:02] <laga> cornel1: mythtv does not install lircrc files
[05:02] <laga> cornel1: also, locate lircd.conf
[05:04] <cornel1> ... somewhere in install or update/upgrade, I was sure I was asked about that...
[05:04] <cornel1> I also  ran a myth remote config script, I forget its name,\.
[05:04] <laga> mythbuntu-lirc-generator
[05:06] <laga> cornel1: it's still not mythtv thatn installed the lircd.conf/lircrc, it's a mythbuntu-specific script :)
[05:07] <cornel1> K
[05:07] <cornel1> pastebin at http://cornell.pastebin.com/m3c7944af
[05:08] <cornel1> Anyway... there was a message I happened to save...  You should now have a .lircrc file generated in /home/cornell/.lircrc  Also, a mythtv specific lircrc is now in ~/.mythtv/lircrc
[05:08] <laga> make sure the exit key is mapped properly
[05:13] <cornel1> lircd has: Back/Exit                0x00000000000017DF
[05:13] <cornel1> irw reports: 000000000000179f 01 Back/Exit Hauppauge_350
[05:13] <cornel1> That be the problem?
[05:13] <laga> no
[05:13] <laga> if it shows u in irw it's ok
[05:13] <laga> make sure it's in the lircrc
[05:15] <cornel1> What am I looking for in lircrc,  "exit"?
[05:15] <cornel1> It's not there
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #137033 in mythbuntu "nVidia drivers for 6800GS do not download" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137033
[05:21] <laga> cornel1: look for a key bound to "esc"
[05:26] <Tommck> (mythtv channel, that is)
[05:26] <cornel1> For the 350, there are two...remote = Hauppauge_350    prog = mythtv    button = Stop    config = Escape, and the other is button=Power
[05:26] <Tommck> so... i was told to harrass superm1 :)
[05:27] <Tommck> actually, I was just curious if there's still an up-to-date repository for Dapper MythTV packages
[05:27] <DaveMorris> Tommck: there is by someone else, I can't remeber who now though
[05:28] <DaveMorris> one of the lurkers in here
[05:28] <Tommck> DaveMorris - thanks.  I'll hunt for it
[05:28] <Tommck> or I could just upgrade..
[05:28] <Tommck> I run Dapper Server for both backend and front end.. would it be problematic upgrading?
[05:29] <defendguin> i know zaptoit is only shut off for mythtv users  is there a way to trick them into thinking we are downloading the data from a different service?
[05:29] <defendguin> zap2it
[05:29] <DaveMorris> personally I'd wait till gutsy is released and upgrade to that then
[05:29] <DaveMorris> I't should go fine, but upgrading like that can always have a few small quirks
[05:30] <Tommck> DaveMorris - I need to get SchedulesDirect stuff to work... I was using old "hamsta.net" packages for 0.20-fixes...
[05:30] <Tommck> guess I could switch to SVN for now
[05:31] <Tommck> hmm.. if I remove existing packages, will that try to blow out my database?
[05:31] <Tommck> or does that depend on the packages?
[05:32] <DaveMorris> when superm1 is awake and out of classes he'll prob be able to point you to the correct repo
[05:32] <DaveMorris> I just can't remember
[05:32] <DaveMorris> I've gtg now
[05:32] <DaveMorris> l8rs
[05:53] <cornel1> Still there laga?
[05:55] <laga> yes
[05:56] <cornel1> Should I have ant entry like: remote = Hauppauge_350    prog = mythtv    button = Back/Exit    config = Escape
[05:57] <cornel1> the button=power config=escape started me thinking, I hit the power button, and "escape" happened.
[05:58] <Timelord> Has anyone controlled a Denon Amp via 232? I would like to contol the volume from MythTV.
[06:00] <laga> Timelord: quite off-topic ;) try google?
[06:00] <laga> cornel1: try it
[06:00] <cornel1> Do I need to bounce anything after I make the change?
[06:00] <laga> cornel1: restart the frontend
[06:01] <Timelord> OK.  I'll have another look.
[06:03] <Timelord> Can MythTV be made to send something via the serial port from an infrared input?  (is this still off topic?)
[06:05] <laga> yes
[06:05] <laga> what do you need that for?
[06:05] <cornel1> While I'm at, shall I remove everything that's not hauppauge_350?
[06:07] <Timelord> the amp is connected via s/pdif, so the volume doesn't work.  Also i would like to switch the Denon (A/V amp) to TV when required.
[06:08] <tgm4883_laptop> Timelord, I believe that it can be done
[06:08] <laga> Timelord: mythtv itself can't do that. you can use lirc and execute some scripts when a button on your remote is pressed, though
[06:08] <tgm4883_laptop> ^^ What laga said
[06:10] <laga> yeah
[06:10] <laga> what i said
[06:10] <laga> ;)
[06:11] <tgm4883_laptop> if you need an example, you can d/l the lircrc.mceusb file from the feisty lirc guide, and search for LAUNCHING BUTTONS
[06:12] <Timelord> Thanks.  I guess i was googling for the wrong thing.
[06:12] <tgm4883_laptop> guide is here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty
[06:12] <cornel1> Can I comment in the .lircrc with # ?
[06:17] <cornel1> .
[06:20] <cornel1> laga: Doesn't seem to've helped
[06:20] <cornel1> Even rebooted
[06:20] <cornel1> And... I've run out of time for this morning
[06:21] <cornel1> TTFN, thanks laga
[06:21] <laga> cornel1: use irw to find out if you used the correct button name
[06:21] <cornel1> I did, I'll recheck
[07:10] <cornel1> irw says:000000000000179f 00 Back/Exit Hauppauge_350
[07:10] <cornel1> And I've set     remote = Hauppauge_350    prog = mythtv    button = Back/Exit    config = Escape  in .lircrc
[07:10] <cornel1> bbiab
[08:06] <Timelord> What is the best way to upgrade (from 2.20.0) to 2.20.2 without loosing my settings etc.?  OS is Ubuntu Feisty.
[08:08] <laga> you shouldn't lose any settings. if you're worried, get a database backup first.
[08:22] <Timelord> does the same apply to plugins?
[08:31] <defendguin> is there any way to work around the ban by zap2it labs?
[08:36] <defendguin> ahh my subscription lasts till 10/5/2007
[08:37] <defendguin> i suppose they will honor that
[08:38] <Timelord> I have the traball. Now what?  (Sorry, but I didn't build the system)
[08:54] <tgm4883> Timelord, tarball for what?
[08:55] <tgm4883> defendguin, your subscription may be until 10/5/2007, but the service has been turned off.  So it will continue to update every day, but you will not receive any new data
[08:55] <defendguin> ohhhh
[08:55] <tgm4883> yep
[08:55] <defendguin> what a bummer
[08:55] <tgm4883> agreed
[08:55] <tgm4883> but SD should work rather well
[08:56] <tgm4883> it also gives me a reason to fix my schedules
[08:56] <defendguin> what abuses were mythtv users doing to cause them to shut off the service?
[08:57] <defendguin> admittedly it was very very nice of them to give it away in the first place
[08:58] <tgm4883> AFAIK, it wasn't mythtv users.  It was other "services" that were reselling the data
[08:58] <defendguin> what a bummer
[08:59] <defendguin> its too bad a company like fluendo can't pick up the slack
[08:59] <defendguin> if they are going to turn Elisa into a tv viewing media center they are going to have to do something similar
[09:00] <tgm4883> yea
[09:00] <tgm4883> although they will probably just become an approved SD software
[09:04] <defendguin> 20 bucks a year is completely reasonable and i hope they hit that goal
[09:05] <Timelord> upgrade to 2.20.2.  I have backed up the database
[09:05] <defendguin> 15 bucks for 3 months isn't bad either
[09:06] <tgm4883> Timelord, why are you trying to upgrade via a tarball?
[09:07] <foxbuntu> tgm4883, whats happenin?
[09:07] <Timelord> Ok. so how should I do it?
[09:08] <Timelord> I downloaded mythtv-0.20.2.tar.bz2
[09:08] <tgm4883> not much foxbuntu, just installing sim city
[09:08] <Timelord> and extracted the folder
[09:08] <tgm4883> Timelord, you should be able to upgrade from the repos
[09:08] <foxbuntu> lol, which one?
[09:09] <tgm4883> sim city 4 rush hour right now
[09:09] <Timelord> what should I have in my sources file?
[09:09] <Timelord> i'm running ubuntu feisty BTW
[09:09] <foxbuntu> nice...that funny, I installed my really old school copy of Starcraft and Broodwar not too long ago
[09:09] <tgm4883> if it hasn't cleared proposed yet, then feisty-proposed
[09:10] <tgm4883> lol, im installing both those next
[09:10] <defendguin> tgm4883  how is mythbuntu gutsy coming?
[09:10] <foxbuntu> tgm4883, you rock...we should play on B.Net later
[09:10] <tgm4883> foxbuntu, we'll see, I have to check how my city is coming along ;)
[09:10] <foxbuntu> lmao
[09:10] <foxbuntu> funy
[09:11] <tgm4883> defendguin, coming along pretty nicely
[09:11] <tgm4883> lots of new featurs
[09:11] <defendguin> i saw the control center looks great
[09:12] <defendguin> much better than using the tv to do all of that
[09:18] <defendguin> tgm4883 you have to upgrade to the 0.20.2 for SD support?
[09:18] <tgm4883> yea
[09:19] <defendguin> was that put into feisty's apt repos?
[09:20] <tgm4883> yea, it was backported to feisty, edgy and i believe dapper (by someone else)
[09:20] <tgm4883> but i dont know if it has cleared proposed yet
[09:20] <defendguin> ahh great
[09:20] <defendguin> i'll just enable proposed
[09:22] <tgm4883> arg
[09:22] <tgm4883> biab
[09:23] <tgm4883> back
[09:44] <defendguin> 0.20.2 is the myth version in gutsy?
[09:48] <defendguin> i was hoping for a way to set the box to SD through the web interface
[09:56] <defendguin> hmm and i thought there would be some extra bling for the gui
[10:10] <defendguin> tgm4883: i upgraded and i don't see a place to specify SD user name and password
[10:22] <defendguin> duh i had to run mythtv-setup
[10:27] <defendguin> :-D
[10:30] <defendguin> i hope that worked
[10:31] <defendguin> on the back end status of mythweb it still says my data direct subscription will expire on 10/05/2007 though  i guess that will get fixed later
[10:42] <defendguin> ha ha changing the system time doesn't work well for mythtv while its playing a tv program
[10:44] <superm1> i've returned
[10:44] <superm1> looks like some people were looking for me above?
[10:44] <superm1> Tommck?
[10:50] <defendguin> i don't suppose there is an option for mythtv just to remind you to watch something.  like if you are watching tv i need to remind you that you wanted to watch this?
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #137138 in mythtv (multiverse) "mythfrontend crashes on video playback" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137138
[11:04] <superm1> haha
[11:04] <superm1> that would be a good option
[11:06] <needinfo> Anyone care to help with schedule recording problem?
[11:06] <Daviey> defendguin: bah.. who uses livetv!?
[11:07] <defendguin> Daviey: i almost exclusively watch live tv  i guess i'm home too much
[11:13] <superm1> Daviey, !
[11:13] <superm1> you got the mirror resolved
[11:13] <superm1> vg :)
[11:13] <Daviey> :)
[11:13] <Daviey> bendailey's is ready, he just needs to sort out his vhosts
[11:13] <superm1> Daviey, we need some idears of how to properly detect graphics cards and choose the driver to get installed
[11:14] <Daviey> how does ENVY do it?
[11:14] <Daviey> infact.. would it be worth bundling envy?
[11:14] <superm1> ugh no
[11:14] <superm1> i'm not letting envy into mythbuntu
[11:14] <Daviey> What does restricted-manager do?
[11:14] <superm1> what does ubotu have to say about envy
[11:14] <superm1> !envy
[11:14] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[11:15] <superm1> restricted-manager is what is currently used
[11:15] <superm1> it does restricted-manager --detect or --list or somethign to that effect
[11:15] <superm1> i was almost thinking it would make sense to just leave an option "attempt automatic detection"
[11:15] <superm1> or just give a list of drivers
[11:15] <superm1> and if restricted-manager can figure it out, wonderful
[11:15] <superm1> if not then you can just choose your driver
[11:16] <Daviey> --check-composite Check if there is a graphics driver available that supports composite and offer to enable it
[11:16] <Daviey> not really what we want
[11:16] <superm1> restricted-manager -l
[11:16] <superm1> is what is currently used
[11:16] <Daviey> List available restricted modules
[11:16] <Daviey> Hmm.. is that really what we want?
[11:16] <superm1> the problem i think is that it breaks when you have more than one module available
[11:16] <superm1> hence the bug that was filed earlier today
[11:17] <Daviey> okay.. lspci | grep VGA ... then load the relevant module
[11:17] <superm1> well cant do that
[11:17] <superm1> because nvidia-glx-new
[11:17] <superm1> nvidia-glx
[11:18] <superm1> nvidia-glx-legacy
[11:18] <superm1> at the moment, its just ignoring which should be used and saying, use nvidia
[11:18] <superm1> to hell with the rest
[11:19] <Daviey> Is there a graphics card to driver compability list?
[11:19] <superm1> that would make life useful wouldn't it
[11:20] <Daviey> you'd think it had been done
[11:21] <defendguin> should th default behavior of mythbuntu not upgrade the kernel?   just in case you had to build your own module for a IR receiver?
[11:21] <superm1> defendguin, if you need your own module, please let me know, and we'll get it in the kernel
[11:21] <defendguin> i did in feisty
[11:22] <superm1> in gutsy all lirc modules should be shipped
[11:22] <Daviey> defendguin: for lirc?
[11:22] <defendguin> yeah
[11:22] <superm1> oh interesting Daviey. see /usr/share/linux-restricted-modules/2.6.22-10-generic/modules.alias.override
[11:23] <Daviey> woooooooooo
[11:23] <Daviey> problem solved
[11:23] <superm1> looks like that might be how restricted manager figures $things out
[11:23] <superm1> well i don't know
[11:23] <Daviey> y?
[11:23] <superm1> i'd almost prefer to write a new class inheriting from restricted manager
[11:24] <superm1> because it has some intelligence in how it parses that already
[11:24] <Daviey> intelligence?
[11:24] <Daviey> erm.. 6 lines of bash!
[11:24] <superm1> um try 1000 lines of python
[11:25] <superm1> and still that doesn't cover cases of stuff like openchrome
[11:25] <superm1> which can't be detected for sure
[11:26] <Daviey> i think DaveMorris wanted to work on openchrome
[11:26] <superm1> how so?
[11:26] <superm1> its in gutsy
[11:26] <Daviey> oh
[11:26] <superm1> well you were gone for a good month or so :)
[11:27] <superm1> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome/0.2.6+svn357-0ubuntu1
[11:28] <Daviey> Uploaded By:  Mario Limonciello
[11:28] <Daviey> \o/
[11:28] <superm1> hehe
[11:29] <superm1> i don't know, this whole mess of video drivers just leaves a fairly stale feeling with me
[11:31] <superm1> and i dont know what a proper solution should be
[11:31] <Daviey> Well it's something to basic, should have been totally sorted pre-edgy imo
[11:31] <superm1> i have always wondered why its not an option normally during install
[11:31] <superm1> especially with compiz fusion by default on gutsy
[11:31] <Daviey> We also need to use the FOSS drivers, unless the grpahics card needs the non-free ones
[11:32] <superm1> well no card "need" the non-free
[11:32] <superm1> just runs much better with it
[11:32] <Daviey> yeah.. framebuffer rocks :D
[11:35] <sslashes> i am having a problem with my remote in mythtv - when i press a button - it is registered four times in mythtv - but it is not an lirc problem, as running irw shows only one event
[11:35] <sslashes> any ideas?
[11:36] <Daviey> lirc REPEAR option?
[11:36] <Daviey> REPEAT*
[11:36] <sslashes> Daviey: does nothing
[11:36] <sslashes> i can sert it to 1000 and it still moves four steps in mythtv
[11:36] <sslashes> sert = set
[11:37] <sslashes> and as i said, irw only shows one event, even when mythtv registers four
[11:37] <sslashes> it is very weird
[11:38] <sslashes> i found one person in #mythtv-users who had the same problems , but no resolution
[11:38] <Daviey> sslashes: Never experienced it, so i can't really help
[11:38] <Daviey> might be worth trying the mythtv-users mailing list
[11:38] <defendguin> re-install
[11:39] <sslashes> defendguin: ?
[11:39] <sslashes> is there a basis to that, or a hope?
[11:39] <superm1> sslashes, this will sound odd, but is it listed 4 times?
[11:39] <superm1> in your ~/.mythtv/lircrc
[11:39] <sslashes> hmm - let me check
[11:39] <superm1> or is it listed as irxevent in ~/.lircrc and then also listed in ~/.mythtv/lircrc?
[11:41] <sslashes> it IS in both .lircrc and mythtv/lircrc
[11:42] <superm1> is it listed under the app mythtv?
[11:42] <superm1> or a different app?
[11:43] <sslashes> it is listed under mythtv in both files
[11:43] <superm1> that shouldnt be a big deal then
[11:44] <superm1> i would add a REPEAT option to each one
[11:44] <superm1> to improve it
[11:44] <superm1> i've gotta run though.  good luck :)
[12:25] <defendguin> i think i've got an issue i searched through the tv listings on my myth box and it says a show is going to be on at 830 and i know for a fact that it will be on at 7:30   what do i do if i think all my listings are on eastern time when i am in central time?
[12:25] <defendguin> was that in myth setup somewhere?
[12:28] <defendguin> up until a few hours ago i had my system time synced with eastern time because i made a mistake i recently changed it to central time if i ran mythfilldatabase would it correct itself?
[12:43] <frank__> Is there any way to setup a wireless connection with wpa encryption in mythbuntu? It's pretty useless for me without that.
[12:47] <Daviey> frank__: yes
[12:48] <Daviey> frank__: frank__ sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome *should do it*
[12:48] <frank__> Daviey: how?
[12:48] <defendguin> Daviey: is there a way to clear the listings DB so that i can make sure to get a completely new one?
[12:48] <frank__> Daviey: If you have a network connection in the first place...
[12:49] <Daviey> defendguin: yes; but i'm not happy to recommend the line you need, incase i get the syntax wrong - ask in #mythtv-users
[12:49] <Daviey> frank__: good point..
[12:49] <Daviey> frank__: Can you not plug it in briefly?
[12:50] <Daviey> or grab the debs on usb pendrive?
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #137167 in mythbuntu "installer freezes when click install proprietary driver" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137167
[12:50] <frank__> Daviey: yeah... I know I can get it to work. I was just testing out mythbuntu and I would have thought it would be there by default
[12:51] <defendguin>  Data is already present for Sat Sep 15 2007, skipping   i get a lot of this and i think the data is wrong
[12:51] <Daviey> frank__: Tis a good point
[01:01] <defendguin> Daviey: could i please have your suggestion for cleaning the myth tv listings db?
[01:05] <Daviey> defendguin: backup the db first
[01:05] <Daviey> $ mysqldump -u mythtv -p -c > backupdb.sql
[01:05] <Daviey> password from mysql.txt
[01:05] <defendguin> this is just the tvlistings db right?
[01:06] <Daviey> no.. the whole db
[01:06] <Daviey> better to be safe
[01:07] <defendguin> ok its backed up
[01:08] <Daviey> defendguin: just trying to check the command .. my mysql foo is weak
[01:09] <defendguin> Daviey: the backup.sql file is only 230 bytes i don't think it backed up properly
[01:09] <defendguin> lol
[01:10] <defendguin> apparently we used mysqldump wrong because its just a text file with the usage directions for mysqldump
[01:11] <defendguin> mysqldump [OPTIONS]  --databases [OPTIONS]  DB1 [DB2 DB3...] 
[01:11] <Daviey> hmm
[01:11] <Daviey> actually.. mythfilldatabase --refresh-all
[01:12] <defendguin> ahhh great
[01:12] <defendguin> i don't know why i didn't see that option before
[01:13] <defendguin> i ran --help several times looking for it
[01:13] <Daviey> heh
[01:13] <Daviey> might not work.. but try it
[01:14] <defendguin> it seems to be downloading new data
[01:15] <Daviey> thats good, right?
[01:15] <defendguin> yup