| ryanakca | Hmm. dropping the kubuntu_9902_nspluginviewer_hangs_cpu.diff patch causes FTBFS... | 12:50 |
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| Riddell | ryanakca: run buildprep | 12:52 |
| Riddell | make -f debian/rules buildprep; debuild | 12:52 |
| ryanakca | Ah, thanks :) | 12:53 |
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| mhb | pykde4 is mighty hard to compile | 01:22 |
| allee | mhb: my best wishes are with you :) | 01:23 |
| mhb | allee: I've tried, but g++ takes 75% of a 1GB RAM, then stops using CPU time and probably freezes in some way | 01:23 |
| allee | mhb: can you point me to the diff.gz. My laptop has 2 GB RAM. Maybe this helps | 01:24 |
| mhb | allee: I think it needs some time and more skilled amd64 testers... thanks for the offer, though | 01:26 |
| mhb | :o) | 01:26 |
| ryanakca | mhb: tried ppa? | 01:27 |
| allee | mhb: k. Bedtime here :) Nite | 01:29 |
| mhb | allee: goodnight | 01:29 |
| ryanakca | night allee | 01:29 |
| mhb | ryanakca: no, but I don't think it will help | 01:29 |
| ryanakca | mhb: is it a ressource problem, or a packaging type? if it's ressources... *shrugs* the ppa probably has more ressources/ram/cpu than your comp does... definetaly has more ressources than mine does | 01:31 |
| mhb | ryanakca: I don't think it's a resources problem, I think it a code problem. | 01:32 |
| ryanakca | hmm | 01:32 |
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| ryanakca | Riddell: no buildprep now that I look in rules... which explains why sbuild failed again | 01:46 |
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| mhb | ryanakca: woohoo! it was resources after all ... I never though I would say that, but 1GB RAM is not enough for me (and for pykde4) :o) | 01:56 |
| ryanakca | hehe | 01:57 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: you managed to compile it? | 01:58 |
| ryanakca | what did you compile it on? | 01:58 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: not yet, but I'm progressing | 01:59 |
| mhb | ryanakca: my computer with swap on .o) | 01:59 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: I gave up when I saw I needed SIP et al. I figured i'd wait till someone (like you!) released a .deb | 01:59 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: right. | 02:01 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: for some reason, whenever I have a dilemma like this (either sleep or build some cool app), the app wins :o) | 02:02 |
| ryanakca | hehe | 02:02 |
| nosrednaekim | what time is it? 2 in the morning> | 02:02 |
| mhb | good guess, yes, two | 02:03 |
| nixternal | what is the current state of compiz fusion in our repos? is it worth attempting to document installation for Kubuntu? | 02:03 |
| nosrednaekim | nixternal: please do, it works fine :) | 02:04 |
| nixternal | thanks nosrednaekim | 02:05 |
| nosrednaekim | NP...and I think I can help out by writing a little documentation on how to get XGL working for those of us on the dark side. | 02:05 |
| nixternal | xgl for ati cards correct? | 02:06 |
| nosrednaekim | yeah. | 02:06 |
| nixternal | rock on, if you could write up something in plain text would be fine, unless you are down with docbook | 02:06 |
| nosrednaekim | yeah. I'll do plain text. | 02:07 |
| nosrednaekim | is it OK if it has some semi-HTML code in it for where I was the "code" type style? | 02:09 |
| nixternal | that's fine | 02:10 |
| nosrednaekim | ok, i'll try to have it to you by tomorrow afternoon. | 02:10 |
| mhb | whoa! they made some smashing progress on the plasma kicker replacement! :o) | 02:19 |
| ryanakca | hmm... could someone take a look at http://groupware.kubuntu.co.uk/~ryan/Log_for_failed_build_of_kdebase_3.5.7-1ubuntu18 and give me a couple ideas as to why dpkg-buildpackage dies please? | 02:19 |
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| ryanakca | I'm guessing it's due to the missing libgtk build dep? | 02:21 |
| mhb | gtk/gtkmain.h: | 02:21 |
| mhb | No such file or directory | 02:21 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: really?is it going to be in beta2? | 02:21 |
| crimsun | right, you need libgtk2.0-dev at least | 02:21 |
| ryanakca | Herm. wierd. just a sec | 02:22 |
| ryanakca | I thought I had removed that patch | 02:22 |
| ryanakca | thanks | 02:24 |
| nixternal | compiz on gutsy for me has white borders around everything | 02:25 |
| nixternal | and I can't get the cube, reflection stuff, none of it to work | 02:25 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: I guess it won't, because it's past beta2 tagging. I don't know what's keeping the release, though. | 02:26 |
| nosrednaekim | nixternal: did you start emerald? | 02:27 |
| nixternal | no | 02:27 |
| nixternal | didn't know I had to | 02:27 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: I guess one could just compile it for itself though. | 02:27 |
| nixternal | I just did 'compiz --replace' | 02:28 |
| nosrednaekim | nixternal: thats the only way I could get it working. | 02:28 |
| nosrednaekim | install emerald and then run "emerald --replace" after running "compiz" | 02:28 |
| nixternal | got it | 02:28 |
| nixternal | ok, somewhat better..no more white borders | 02:28 |
| ryanakca | emerald-manager should let you change the theme, iirc.... I haven't used compiz/beryl in ages | 02:29 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: http://mhb.ath.cx/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/kde4.png if you want to take a look | 02:29 |
| nosrednaekim | k | 02:29 |
| nixternal | ya, you can change the theme...but I can't get the cube to work, nor the reflections | 02:30 |
| nosrednaekim | nixternal: run "ccsm"you migth have to turn that stuff on | 02:32 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: is it enabled in the compiz-fusion manager? | 02:32 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: nice... I guess. better than nothing. | 02:32 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: compare with this one: http://vizzzion.org/images/blog/xinerama-kde4-beta2.png | 02:33 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: ^^ is what beta 2 should contain | 02:34 |
| nosrednaekim | vizzzion..... hmm whose blog is that?Sebas's? | 02:34 |
| mhb | yes | 02:34 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: WOAH! way too big :) | 02:35 |
| nosrednaekim | I'd lag out if I tried loading that | 02:35 |
| nixternal | yes I have it enabled | 02:36 |
| nixternal | the manager is confusing, and retarded at the same time | 02:36 |
| nosrednaekim | nixternal: yeah... the old one was better | 02:37 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: is it better than the Beryl one? it was nice... | 02:38 |
| nixternal | well, I think for documentation wise, I am going to link them to documentation instead of trying to write it right now...it is to buggy | 02:38 |
| ryanakca | yeah | 02:39 |
| nixternal | no matter what I enable, it isn't working | 02:40 |
| nixternal | I have to admit though, what is working is kind of cool | 02:41 |
| crimsun | (he has the vista UI emulator enabled) | 02:42 |
| nixternal | bah | 02:42 |
| nixternal | I did find a cool thing, but you have to use all 10 fingers just to use it :) | 02:43 |
| nixternal | now how do I shut this junk off w/o restarting x? | 02:43 |
| nosrednaekim | nixternal: "kwin --replace" | 02:43 |
| nixternal | oh well...gotta restart x anyways, nice crash | 02:43 |
| nixternal | sudo apt-get remove that_garbage | 02:46 |
| nosrednaekim | nixternal: eh.. I was faster than I thought. I have that XGL tutorial all written up.do you need it? | 02:48 |
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| nixternal | nosrednaekim: how about putting it on the community documentation for the time being? | 02:54 |
| nixternal | I will give it a shot later on my desktop since I have an ATI Radeon 9700 in it | 02:55 |
| nosrednaekim | ok. sure. | 02:55 |
| nosrednaekim | should I include the installation of the ATI drivers? | 02:55 |
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| nosrednaekim | nixternal: eh...umm... where are the community docs? | 03:03 |
| nixternal | https://help.ubuntu.com/community | 03:08 |
| nixternal | I think the ATI driver installation is already there, and so is XGL possibly, but if you have a way that works and is better than what is up there, just update then | 03:08 |
| nosrednaekim | well, the Kubuntu way would be different than the ubuntu way.. | 03:09 |
| nosrednaekim | yech... I hate wikis... oh well :) | 03:11 |
| nosrednaekim | hmm the ubuntu one is pretty good. | 03:14 |
| nixternal | ya, I hate them too at times | 03:14 |
| nixternal | will it work for Kubuntu as well? | 03:15 |
| nosrednaekim | except it uses gedit. | 03:15 |
| nosrednaekim | yeah..except for the above. | 03:15 |
| nixternal | ya, just add some Kubuntu snippets in there | 03:15 |
| nosrednaekim | two lines really.. | 03:16 |
| nixternal | easy fix then :) | 03:20 |
| nixternal | I will just aim the docs at it then | 03:21 |
| nosrednaekim | ok.. cool. | 03:21 |
| nixternal | with a giant "BEWARE" sign :) | 03:21 |
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| nixternal | hehe | 03:22 |
| nixternal | shh, he is here now | 03:22 |
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| Jucato | yay kmail works now :) | 03:23 |
| Jucato | (I think) | 03:23 |
| nixternal | all but pasting | 03:23 |
| Jucato | aw.. :( | 03:23 |
| === nixternal builds a new kubuntu-docs package for da man | ||
| === nosrednaekim runs away! people talking! | ||
| === Jucato goes back to sleep... | ||
| Jucato | terrible day yesterday :( | 03:24 |
| nixternal | I just sent this guy $25,000 and he said in a few months he will send me $140,000,000 | 03:24 |
| nixternal | you can't beat that! | 03:24 |
| nosrednaekim | nixternal: he wasn't from the Congo was he? | 03:24 |
| Jucato | O.o | 03:24 |
| Jucato | yeah, that can't be beaten by 3 days of (almost) non-stop loud, out of tune, karaoke singing from my neighbor... | 03:25 |
| nixternal | I think so | 03:26 |
| nixternal | his brother was a King who just died | 03:26 |
| nixternal | I think the same King who has died a few times a year now :) | 03:26 |
| Jucato | hehehe | 03:26 |
| nosrednaekim | nixternal: haha | 03:26 |
| nosrednaekim | nixternal: but now he is king? | 03:26 |
| nixternal | Jucato: if my neighbors did such a thing...well can you sing karaoke from your bottom? | 03:26 |
| Jucato | lol | 03:26 |
| nosrednaekim | like his neighbors do... sure. | 03:27 |
| nixternal | I keep getting the same spam messages...spamassassin and bogofilter both stink | 03:27 |
| nosrednaekim | nixternal: pipe it through gmail... | 03:27 |
| nosrednaekim | :) | 03:27 |
| Jucato | gmail's spam filter is almost perfect... almost... | 03:27 |
| nixternal | I do, gmail is just as bad | 03:27 |
| nosrednaekim | really? I haven't gotten anything from it. | 03:27 |
| nixternal | how is gmails spam filter good for everyone else, but totally stinks like crimsun for me? | 03:27 |
| Jucato | I only get spam from gmail say.. um... a few times a month? | 03:27 |
| Jucato | lol | 03:27 |
| nixternal | I get it umm, say a few times a day | 03:28 |
| nixternal | actually, no I don't...maybe a few times a week | 03:28 |
| nixternal | but gmail also blocks a ton of my dev mail as spam | 03:28 |
| Jucato | hehe I'm so glad I'm not yet subscribed to that many ML's :P | 03:28 |
| LaserJock | I had to cut back | 03:29 |
| LaserJock | I figure if I can't manage it with gmail then it's just too much | 03:29 |
| nixternal | heh | 03:29 |
| nosrednaekim | everyone hide.. its the gnomefreak. | 03:29 |
| nixternal | umm? | 03:29 |
| nixternal | where? | 03:29 |
| Jucato | ?? | 03:29 |
| nosrednaekim | LaserJock: | 03:29 |
| Jucato | O.o | 03:29 |
| Jucato | wrong person? | 03:29 |
| nosrednaekim | oh.. I wasn't talking about gnomefreak.. | 03:30 |
| LaserJock | nosrednaekim: hehe | 03:30 |
| === Jucato thinks he bumped into a Qt/KDE list view widget problem... | ||
| === nosrednaekim , the problem, bumps Jucato back. | ||
| nixternal | haha | 03:32 |
| Jucato | LaserJock: btw, about that Hidden field in an app's .desktop file? I ran into something strange. If I add it to the file in /usr/share/applications/, it hides the menu entry. but if I do so in ~/.local/share/applications/ it doesn't.. I guess I'm missing something | 03:32 |
| Jucato | aside from a few screws in my head... | 03:32 |
| nixternal | I can return those screws whenever you need them back | 03:33 |
| nixternal | my dad is making me a Tux cell phone case..it is going to be so cool | 03:33 |
| Jucato | wow | 03:33 |
| LaserJock | Jucato: hmmm | 03:34 |
| Jucato | oh well... KDE must be doing something funky for the menu... or maybe it's Guh-NOME... dunno :) | 03:34 |
| LaserJock | nah | 03:35 |
| LaserJock | .local/share/applications should override /usr/share/applications | 03:36 |
| LaserJock | unless possibly KDE isn't implementing the menu right | 03:37 |
| Jucato | hence doing something funky :) | 03:37 |
| LaserJock | but I think I remember aaron saying it should work | 03:38 |
| Jucato | heh sometimes it's no fun working on a KDE 3.5.x feature when you know it won't be incorporated anymore :P | 03:38 |
| nosrednaekim | nixternal: wiki edit done. feel free to link to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl | 03:39 |
| nixternal | thanks nosrednaekim!! you rock! | 03:39 |
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| Jucato | um question... is it normal that in a list view (KMail, KGet Show all links, Konqueror), when you filter out a specific set of items, then select them all with Ctrl+A | 03:39 |
| nosrednaekim | APT! | 03:39 |
| nixternal | Jucato: are you going to finish that? | 03:39 |
| Jucato | er... | 03:40 |
| nixternal | hehe | 03:40 |
| Jucato | ... all items, even those unfiltered, get selected? | 03:40 |
| nixternal | I would have to say no | 03:41 |
| Jucato | no, as in it happens to you too but shouldn't happen? or no, it doesn't happen to you? | 03:41 |
| nosrednaekim | or no as in it sounds like it shouldn't happen but I have never seen it | 03:42 |
| Jucato | try it, kmail or konqi in list view... | 03:43 |
| nosrednaekim | Jucato: how do you unfilter in list view? | 03:46 |
| Jucato | did you use the fliter search bar or just the menu? | 03:46 |
| nosrednaekim | in list view I couldn't see the filter bar | 03:47 |
| Jucato | ah you have to add it though. or you can use Tools -> Filter | 03:47 |
| nosrednaekim | ok. | 03:48 |
| nixternal | 20:42:11 [ nosrednae] or no as in it sounds like it shouldn't happen but I have never seen it | 03:49 |
| nixternal | that one there :) | 03:49 |
| Jucato | gee... am I always the only one to run into these corner cases? O.o | 03:50 |
| nosrednaekim | Jucato: ok... so I tried that... I flitered all but python programs in a DIr out and then ctrl+aed and then right clicked on the python files selected and copied them to anyother DIR. Only the python files wnet | 03:51 |
| nixternal | Jucato: that is because you mess around with everything :) | 03:51 |
| Jucato | nosrednaekim: after you select Ctrl+A, reset the Filter so that nothing will get filtered | 03:52 |
| nosrednaekim | hmm ok | 03:52 |
| Jucato | nixternal: hahah ;0 | 03:52 |
| Jucato | er.. :) | 03:52 |
| nosrednaekim | when I reset the filter.... nothing is selected | 03:52 |
| Jucato | hm.. ok... :) | 03:53 |
| nosrednaekim | bug maybe? | 03:53 |
| Jucato | unless it's an intended feature :) | 03:54 |
| nosrednaekim | its not a bug..... its a FEATURE! | 03:54 |
| Jucato | ah ok! it only happens if you use the filter text field in the toolbar. doesn't happen if you use the Tools menu | 03:55 |
| Jucato | the effects in konqueror is a bit... dangerous... | 03:56 |
| Jucato | screenshot time... | 03:56 |
| nosrednaekim | ah! | 03:56 |
| Jucato | http://jucato.org/stuff/filters.png | 03:59 |
| Jucato | may I direct your attention to the screenshot. both showing the same location... | 03:59 |
| Jucato | the right panel just shows how many files there are | 03:59 |
| Tm_T | Jucato: yay, you have lowdotted fonts | 03:59 |
| Jucato | low dotted? | 04:00 |
| nosrednaekim | Jucato: thats scary.. | 04:00 |
| Tm_T | I mean, your font doesnt use many dots really | 04:00 |
| Jucato | ah.. um... ok... | 04:00 |
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| Tm_T | Jucato: small comparison: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png | 04:00 |
| Jucato | hm... | 04:05 |
| LaserJock | why is there so much kde stuff in -backports? | 04:07 |
| Tm_T | active development and constant releases? | 04:07 |
| Jucato | heh and before some were complaining that kde stuff aren't in backports but are in kubuntu.org instead hehehe | 04:08 |
| LaserJock | seems like it kinda defeats the purpose ot put stuff in -backports | 04:08 |
| nosrednaekim | LaserJock: what purpose? | 04:08 |
| LaserJock | well, generally we don't put stuff in -backports that is important | 04:09 |
| nosrednaekim | KDE4 isn't... | 04:09 |
| LaserJock | no, there's almost all of kde3 in there as well | 04:09 |
| LaserJock | or at least it looks like it to me | 04:10 |
| Jucato | kde updates | 04:10 |
| nosrednaekim | kde 3.5.7? | 04:10 |
| Jucato | amarok usually | 04:10 |
| Tm_T | is it our fault KDE keep releasing bugfixes? | 04:10 |
| LaserJock | I guess it's mostly koffice I see | 04:11 |
| LaserJock | and lots of libs | 04:11 |
| LaserJock | Tm_T: I'm not saying it is | 04:12 |
| LaserJock | but how much goes into -updates and how much goes to -backports? | 04:12 |
| Jucato | LaserJock: does -updates accomodate version updates? I mean like KOffice 1.6.3 if the one in main is 1.6.2? | 04:15 |
| Tm_T | no | 04:15 |
| Jucato | one reason to use backports then :) | 04:16 |
| Jucato | or kubuntu.org... | 04:16 |
| nosrednaekim | here's a nice little kubuntu testimonial.... ya'll rock! http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2007/08/another-convert.html | 04:16 |
| Jucato | :) | 04:18 |
| Tm_T | <3 | 04:18 |
| Jucato | :3 | 04:18 |
| LaserJock | hmm, why does kde4base-dev pull in stuff like kdepimlibs5, et. al ? | 04:26 |
| Tm_T | because it depends on it | 04:26 |
| Tm_T | KDE4 has nice integration stuff related to any personal information | 04:26 |
| Jucato | because kde*libs5 is for KDE 4 | 04:26 |
| Jucato | blame Debian's naming | 04:27 |
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| holycow | aha! | 04:27 |
| holycow | hey dudes | 04:27 |
| holycow | nice work on including kbfx in kubuntu | 04:27 |
| holycow | thats one kickass menuing app | 04:27 |
| holycow | does anyone reember how to enable kdm themes? | 04:27 |
| holycow | can someone tell me why they are disabled? | 04:27 |
| Jucato | !changethemes | holycow | 04:28 |
| ubotu | holycow: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy. Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. | 04:28 |
| Jucato | last link ^^^ | 04:28 |
| Jucato | btw, Kubuntu uses a KDM theme by default. so it isn't disabled | 04:28 |
| Tm_T | holycow: btw this is not support channel ;) | 04:28 |
| holycow | i know its not a support channel, did i ask HOW to customize ubuntu? | 04:28 |
| holycow | i asked WHY devel decision was made however | 04:28 |
| Jucato | [10:27] <holycow> does anyone reember how to enable kdm themes? | 04:29 |
| Tm_T | muhahah | 04:29 |
| holycow | just curious if there some technical issue i should be aware of | 04:29 |
| LaserJock | I meant though that I thought that kde4base would be just the basics and that kdepim would depend on it, not hte other way around | 04:29 |
| Jucato | sounds like a "how" to me... | 04:29 |
| Jucato | holycow: again, kdm themes are not disabled | 04:29 |
| Tm_T | LaserJock: well kdepimlibs is part of KDE4 basics | 04:29 |
| holycow | lol you right, that was ahow meant more as a why .. but alas | 04:29 |
| Jucato | LaserJock: er no. kdepimlibs is different from kdepim | 04:30 |
| holycow | ah could be maybe this distupgrade then. interesting, when i tried it last night they were | 04:30 |
| === Tm_T hugs holycow | ||
| holycow | you had to read a readme on it | 04:30 |
| holycow | today that popup is gone but kdm themes aren't applied | 04:30 |
| holycow | okay good to know | 04:30 |
| manchicken | I wonder if kdepim folks know that there are two meta-a accessors in the Edit Contact screen.... | 04:31 |
| Tm_T | manchicken: where? | 04:31 |
| manchicken | In "Edit Contact", if you hit meta-a, you'll see that there are two matches found. | 04:31 |
| Tm_T | in what part? | 04:31 |
| Tm_T | kaddressbook? | 04:31 |
| manchicken | The "Add" button under the phone numbers, and then the "Apply" button. | 04:32 |
| manchicken | kabc | 04:32 |
| Tm_T | hmmm | 04:32 |
| Jucato | ah yes | 04:32 |
| Tm_T | let me check whats here | 04:32 |
| Jucato | accessors = accelerator/hot keys... didn't get that one immediately :) | 04:32 |
| Tm_T | manchicken: hmm, in US English that is? | 04:33 |
| Jucato | Add (under the Home, Work, Mobile number fields) and Apply (beside OK and Cancel) | 04:34 |
| Tm_T | US English that is? | 04:34 |
| nosrednaekim | Tm_T: ALT I think.. | 04:35 |
| Jucato | that is what? O.o | 04:35 |
| Tm_T | ? | 04:35 |
| Tm_T | Jucato: in what language? | 04:35 |
| Jucato | US | 04:35 |
| Tm_T | thanks | 04:36 |
| Tm_T | can you try with british? | 04:36 |
| manchicken | Tm_T: Yeah | 04:37 |
| manchicken | ALT, yes. | 04:37 |
| === Jucato would have to install a new language first... | ||
| Jucato | not exactly sure how I would go about that though.... | 04:38 |
| Tm_T | run app like KDE_LANG=en_GB kate | 04:38 |
| Jucato | or kaddressbook? | 04:39 |
| Tm_T | yup | 04:39 |
| Tm_T | follow the pattern ;) | 04:39 |
| === Tm_T has trilingual desktop | ||
| Jucato | I don't haveUS English | 04:40 |
| Jucato | er | 04:40 |
| Jucato | sorry | 04:40 |
| Tm_T | en_GB, cy and fi | 04:40 |
| Jucato | nothing changed.. mabye I don't have en_GB? | 04:40 |
| Tm_T | you have to install lang packs ofcourse :) | 04:40 |
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| Jucato | Tm_T: taking a looong time hahaha | 04:50 |
| Tm_T | hrrr | 04:50 |
| Jucato | downloading the English language | 04:51 |
| nosrednaekim | I can be heard here. | 04:57 |
| Jucato | Tm_T: still the same... after en_GB | 04:58 |
| nosrednaekim | Tm_T: you... | 04:58 |
| Tm_T | Jucato: interesting | 04:58 |
| Tm_T | Jucato: btw this channel has been quiet lately :( | 04:59 |
| Jucato | yeah :( | 04:59 |
| LaserJock | well, I could ask more questions, but I figured you guys were tired of me | 05:00 |
| LaserJock | ;-) | 05:00 |
| nosrednaekim | nope... we aren't tired of you. | 05:00 |
| Jucato | LaserJock: us? tired of you? when? | 05:01 |
| LaserJock | kdebase includes kate and konqi right? | 05:03 |
| Jucato | for kde3, yes | 05:03 |
| LaserJock | and kde4base for kde4 | 05:04 |
| Jucato | kate's gone in kde4 | 05:04 |
| Jucato | only kwrite remains... | 05:04 |
| nosrednaekim | from kde4base, yea | 05:04 |
| === Jucato sobs | ||
| nosrednaekim | not from KDE.. | 05:04 |
| LaserJock | what? | 05:04 |
| LaserJock | where is kate then? | 05:04 |
| Jucato | sorry. I meant. | 05:04 |
| Jucato | kate is not in kdebase in kde4 anymore | 05:05 |
| Jucato | it's in kdesdk | 05:05 |
| stdin | it's not gone, it's just moved in to the kde4sdk package for some unknown reason :p | 05:05 |
| nosrednaekim | thats an odd place to put it. | 05:05 |
| Jucato | it isnt really... | 05:06 |
| Jucato | but I'd prefer it to be the default text editor anyway | 05:06 |
| LaserJock | ok, so I got kde4base, kde4edu, and now kde4sdk is installing | 05:07 |
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| manchicken | I really like dolphin. | 05:42 |
| Jucato | good for you :) | 05:43 |
| Jucato | I'm wondering if dolphin will have a right-click to Compress service menu :( | 05:43 |
| nixternal | make one! | 05:44 |
| Jucato | don't know how :) | 05:44 |
| nixternal | Commando is the greatest movie ever! | 05:44 |
| Jucato | I thought you were going to say Kommando hahah | 05:44 |
| nixternal | I should have | 05:45 |
| nixternal | that is my old chinchilla's name | 05:46 |
| Jucato | ok starving... later :) | 05:47 |
| Jucato | much much later | 05:47 |
| nixternal | hehe | 05:48 |
| manchicken | Any python apps with bugs that need squishing? I could use to play with Python a bit. | 05:57 |
| nixternal | ya, same here actually | 05:57 |
| nixternal | Riddell: http://ppa.launchpad.net/nixternal/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kubuntu-docs/ | 05:57 |
| nixternal | anyone using translations with Kubuntu, could you please test the .deb in that ^^ directory to see how the firefox frontpage works for you | 05:58 |
| LaserJock | wahoo, it works | 05:59 |
| nixternal | what is that LaserJock? | 06:00 |
| LaserJock | kde4 stuff | 06:01 |
| LaserJock | not really sure how to tell the difference yet, but I got some stuff to start up anyway | 06:01 |
| Tm_T | nixternal: roger | 06:01 |
| Tm_T | nixternal: err, can be or cannot be tested in feisty? | 06:02 |
| nixternal | gutsy only | 06:08 |
| nixternal | man, I almost forgot to do my laundry | 06:08 |
| nixternal | I would have had to go to class tomorrow stinkin' | 06:08 |
| Tm_T | shame you remembered | 06:09 |
| Tm_T | stinky nixternal <3 | 06:09 |
| nixternal | hahah, you are sick | 06:09 |
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| mantha | wow, cool | 06:16 |
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| nixternal | you in kde4 now? | 06:20 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 06:21 |
| nixternal | I don't think that uploading to a PPA should close bugs when you have (LP: #xxxxx) in the changelog | 06:21 |
| LaserJock | full session | 06:21 |
| nixternal | groovy | 06:21 |
| nixternal | hasn't crashed on you yet? impressive | 06:21 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: yeah, file a bug on that if you don't find one | 06:21 |
| LaserJock | no, no crashing | 06:22 |
| nixternal | awesome | 06:22 |
| LaserJock | I've only used konversation and dolphin so far though | 06:22 |
| LaserJock | I wish the kde4 package description had what apps were installed | 06:23 |
| LaserJock | I have no idea what I'm doing ;-) | 06:23 |
| nixternal | filed | 06:24 |
| nixternal | they will eventually, that is the descriptions | 06:24 |
| nixternal | take a look at konsole..I really love how crisp the monospace fonts are in KDE 4 compared to KDE 3 | 06:25 |
| nixternal | and gnome for that matter | 06:25 |
| nixternal | alt+f2 is the new krunner app...it is pretty cool | 06:25 |
| nixternal | actually, if you are using beta 1, I don't think krunner works | 06:25 |
| nixternal | KMenu -> Run Program does though I think | 06:26 |
| LaserJock | wow, configuration in konsole applies like immediately | 06:27 |
| nixternal | ya | 06:27 |
| nixternal | same as in KDE 3 I believe | 06:28 |
| nixternal | been awhile since I changed the config | 06:28 |
| nixternal | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUoetesHdRU | 06:29 |
| nixternal | :) | 06:29 |
| LaserJock | I'm liking the kde4 menu much better | 06:35 |
| LaserJock | what's the name of the panel, still kicker? | 06:36 |
| nixternal | right now it is, but it will all be a part of plasma | 06:38 |
| nixternal | the menu, the kicker, and the desktop will all be one app called plasma | 06:38 |
| LaserJock | hmm, interesting | 06:39 |
| nixternal | I am wondering about that..if it will be like explorer in windows...if it crashes, it all crashes | 06:41 |
| LaserJock | brb, I better get back into a kde3 session before it all explodes around my head ;-) | 06:42 |
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| LaserJock | nixternal: does kopete do jabber? I don't see anything | 06:54 |
| nixternal | ys | 06:55 |
| nixternal | yes | 06:55 |
| LaserJock | kopete from kde4 I mean | 06:55 |
| nixternal | I don't see why it wouldn't | 06:55 |
| LaserJock | hmm, don't see it | 06:57 |
| LaserJock | no gtalk either | 06:57 |
| Jucato | kopete for KDE 4 is unfinished afaik. you're going to have to use the KDE 3 version | 07:00 |
| LaserJock | yeah, noticed it was kinda touchy | 07:00 |
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| Jucato | no official word about it yet though... I think | 07:01 |
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| LaserJock | what are .kss files? | 08:01 |
| Jucato | wild guess... stylesheets? | 08:03 |
| Jucato | er no.. screensaver | 08:03 |
| Jucato | LaserJock: it seems to be a KDE ScreenSaver | 08:04 |
| LaserJock | oh, interesting | 08:04 |
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| _StefanS_ | morning | 09:32 |
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| viviersf | Riddell, ping | 09:41 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: I think it would be nice to have dolphin include the "^ Up" button now that we're using it default. Konqueror had this button on by default | 09:54 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: I can provide a patch for it, if you like. | 09:55 |
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| _StefanS_ | hey Hobbsee | 09:57 |
| Hobbsee | hiya _StefanS_ | 09:59 |
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| _StefanS_ | anyone know of a good linux bluetooth dongle? | 10:03 |
| Lure | Riddell: some complains by seigo in comment about ubuntu vs. kubuntu: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2007/08/another-convert.html | 10:05 |
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| _StefanS_ | Lure: those comments arent really valid anymore since we got the restricted-drivers manager for kde (?) right | 10:17 |
| Lure | _StefanS_: not sure really - I was not offered restroicted-extras through restricted-manager | 10:17 |
| Lure | _StefanS_: it might be something missing | 10:18 |
| Lure | _StefanS_: I am more concerned about voiced opinion that kubuntu is 2nd class | 10:18 |
| _StefanS_ | Lure: well thats his opinion.. I was never too fond of Seigo | 10:19 |
| hunger | Lure: That is a valid complaint IMHO. | 10:20 |
| _StefanS_ | Lure: guess he should just use SuSE instead, and have fun with Yast2. | 10:20 |
| Lure | _StefanS_: I like the fact that kubuntu is used by many kde developers and messages by such opinion makers as seigo are important (imho) | 10:20 |
| _StefanS_ | Lure: well, I was offered to install GPIO drivers through the restricted drivers manager, so I dont really see it not working | 10:21 |
| Lure | _StefanS_: yep, need to check ubuntu CD sometime to see the delta... | 10:21 |
| _StefanS_ | Lure: maybe he just used feisty where the restricted manager is not present | 10:22 |
| _StefanS_ | donno.. | 10:22 |
| Lure | _StefanS_: I am sure he used feisty | 10:22 |
| mhb | multimedia issue is a problematic one | 10:23 |
| _StefanS_ | mhb: well dont know if you could make some placeholders for all calls to media decoders, and notify that way | 10:23 |
| _StefanS_ | mhb: much like the redhat + mp3 issue | 10:23 |
| _StefanS_ | mhb: albeit it was simple in comparison, I know ;) | 10:24 |
| mhb | actually, the problem is not caused by Kubuntu that much. You see, I talked with kaffeine devs the other day in #kaffeine the other day, and of course they would like to see that, and of course not for KDE3 | 10:24 |
| mhb | and a volunteer project like Kubuntu will not likely find someone who will code it up even though he knows that he would have to code it again very soon | 10:26 |
| mhb | ahh, complicated sentences :o) I like those. | 10:26 |
| _StefanS_ | err, I think I know what you mean.. maintenance | 10:27 |
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| Hobbsee | does someone want to do some work on kdenetwork bugs? | 10:31 |
| _StefanS_ | Hobbsee: pick me pick me :D | 10:34 |
| _StefanS_ | Hobbsee: I can help probably :) | 10:34 |
| Hobbsee | _StefanS_: yay! | 10:34 |
| _StefanS_ | wooohoo | 10:34 |
| Hobbsee | _StefanS_: fix, find patches, etc | 10:34 |
| _StefanS_ | what needs to be done? | 10:34 |
| Hobbsee | cut down the bug list, find patches | 10:37 |
| Hobbsee | file/link the upstream counterparts | 10:37 |
| _StefanS_ | seems like not all applies to gutsy | 10:39 |
| Hobbsee | no, but the kdenetwork module hasnt changed very much, either | 10:40 |
| _StefanS_ | how would we fix that high kpppd bug that applies to 6.06LTS? | 10:42 |
| Hobbsee | _StefanS_: locate kppp.README.Debian and read it | 10:44 |
| Jucato | _StefanS_: no need for an up arrow in Dolphin. that's what the crumb bar toolbar (or whatever is it's official name) is for | 10:45 |
| Hobbsee | _StefanS_: but yeah, it would be good if we could just enable it by default. i'm not sure why we dont, etc. | 10:45 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: my wife didnt know what to do. She was used to konqy's Up button. I think the usuability it broken | 10:46 |
| Hobbsee | _StefanS_: hardly anyone touches teh bug list, etc, so it all gets ignored. | 10:46 |
| _StefanS_ | it/is | 10:46 |
| Jucato | imho, just needs a way of doing things. Dolphin isn't Konqueror... | 10:47 |
| Jucato | although yes, it does invovle change, which is more difficult for some (of us... :( ) | 10:47 |
| _StefanS_ | an Up button wouldn't hurt IMHO | 10:48 |
| _StefanS_ | I miss it too | 10:48 |
| Jucato | re: aseigo's comment, just because a feature is in gutsy, and just because he's using feisty to install on a relative's computer makes the comment invalid. there are still 2 months until that becomes invalid, and even by then not everyone will be immediately using Gutsy :) | 10:49 |
| Jucato | of course, someone should tell him about new things to look forward to in Gutsy :) | 10:49 |
| Jucato | anyway, off to buy food. I'm starving... | 10:50 |
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| Jucato | hunger: you can't restore either | 10:51 |
| Jucato | thanks for reminding me of that issue. forgot to note it down... | 10:51 |
| _StefanS_ | I would be too dangerous to have the users emptying trash all the time. They might loose something :D | 10:51 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: I got my 24" screen btw, damn its large :) | 10:52 |
| Jucato | _StefanS_: yay!! heeheh | 10:52 |
| Jucato | I would need a bigger room to have a monitor that big | 10:52 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: yeah it does take up some space ! | 10:52 |
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| Jucato | btw, the fact that by default Dolphin doesn't ask you whether you want to move to trash or not doesn't help | 10:52 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: but the resolution is just great | 10:52 |
| hunger | I always catch people emptying the trash as soon as they delete something because it is so untidy to have the full trashcan icon. | 10:53 |
| Jucato | lol | 10:53 |
| Jucato | silly people | 10:53 |
| hunger | Jucato: Not silly, just tidy. | 10:53 |
| _StefanS_ | hmm who decided to switch to dolphin anyways? | 10:54 |
| _StefanS_ | I thought it was something we were doing for kde4 | 10:54 |
| Jucato | Tonio did I think... | 10:54 |
| === mhb commented on aseigos blog post, btw | ||
| Jucato | as a "transition" to KDE 4... | 10:54 |
| Jucato | (if that's the case we could have also switched to kwrite by default...) | 10:54 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: well thats great, but isn't the kde3 version of dolphin like ages behind kde4 version? | 10:54 |
| Jucato | we are using the D3lphin version... | 10:55 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: is that better? | 10:55 |
| Jucato | https://marrat.homelinux.org/D3lphin | 10:55 |
| _StefanS_ | im there.. is it an effort to match kde4 features? | 10:55 |
| Jucato | if it is, it's far behind... | 10:56 |
| Jucato | oooh we're only using 0.9.1 | 10:56 |
| Jucato | 0.9.2 fixes my sidebar issue | 10:56 |
| _StefanS_ | I'm just concerned that the impact on usuability is left further behind even compared to konqy. I think the kioslaves are particulary slow | 10:57 |
| === Jucato is still uneasy about the whole thing though... | ||
| Jucato | but if manchicken loves it. hehehe | 10:57 |
| _StefanS_ | he does? | 10:57 |
| Jucato | [11:42] <manchicken> I really like dolphin. | 10:57 |
| Jucato | 5 hours ago hehehe | 10:57 |
| _StefanS_ | he must be on overdose because he got a new laptop... he's not paying attention | 10:57 |
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| Jucato | strange though, Dolphin's main raison d'etre is to be a more usable file manager. I guess usability still means different things for some people :) | 10:58 |
| Jucato | but the Up botton is not really a big issue imho... | 10:58 |
| Jucato | anyway, I'm really starving... brb | 10:58 |
| norsetto | anyone on kubuntu/i386 willing to test bug 137222? Hobbsee is excused :-) | 10:59 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 137222 in adept "Adept description field is wrong" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137222 | 10:59 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: is it the new policy to mark bugs as invalid instead of incomplete? | 11:00 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: when a crash log is incomplete | 11:00 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: now that we ahve apport and such, it seems to be changed to a "please rereport if you find this again" | 11:02 |
| Riddell | viviersf: pong | 11:04 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: dolphin has buttons for the directories in its address bar | 11:04 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: yes, I know. But like I said its not that apparent to all users | 11:05 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: and having the Up really makes it resemble what you are used to | 11:05 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: I trying to make a strong case :D | 11:05 |
| Jucato | and dolphin devs will try to make a strong counter case too hehehe | 11:17 |
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| Riddell | mhb: did you have a fix for pyqt dbus? | 11:48 |
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| mhb | Riddell: I guess so | 12:30 |
| mhb | Riddell: should I make a debdiff? Is dokos reasoning known yet? | 12:30 |
| Riddell | mhb: I've not spoken to hi about it | 12:30 |
| Lure | Riddell: latest revert of pop3 mess does not build :-( | 12:30 |
| Riddell | mhb: make a debdiff and I'll show it to him | 12:31 |
| Riddell | Lure: arg | 12:31 |
| Lure | Riddell: will need to hunt guys in #kontact for proper build fix | 12:31 |
| Lure | Riddell: if this will not be done today, I will work at least on paste bug-fix backport | 12:31 |
| Lure | Riddell: as otherwise the version in gutsy does not crash anymore | 12:31 |
| Riddell | mhb: do you think that the python fork pty issue is much worse in gutsy than it was in edgy or feisty? | 12:32 |
| mhb | Riddell: I have mailed him, but he has not replied | 12:32 |
| Lure | Riddell: general problem with enterprise branch: they add new features (=large commits) daily, so they break different stuff quite often | 12:32 |
| mhb | Riddell: I think it is essential to have a graphical dist-upgrade working | 12:32 |
| Riddell | viviersf: do you have a time when you expect to use the enterprise packages in a release? | 12:33 |
| Riddell | mhb: that wasn't what I asked :) | 12:33 |
| Riddell | mhb: I tested the feisty->gutsy upgrade on my 600MB memory machine and it worked for the upgrade, but crashed without of memory when it did the remove packages (which forks a second konsole pty) | 12:34 |
| mhb | Riddell: right. It was no problem pre-edgy. Edgy-Feisty graphical upgrade worked because of the magic fix nobody knows. The users have not tried Feisty-Gutsy much. Gutsy is also affected in gdebi-kde, so one can say it is twice as worse :o) | 12:35 |
| mhb | Riddell: if I devote the whole weekend on fixing it, would that be a problem? | 12:35 |
| Lure | Riddell: the fix for python-qt4-dbus should be simple (just missing links) so I am not sure why we are waiting | 12:35 |
| Riddell | mhb: but forking a konsole pty in edgy does also use up a large chunk of memory doesn't it? | 12:35 |
| Riddell | mhb: not at all, but where would you start? I'm pretty much out of ideas myself | 12:36 |
| Lure | Riddell: if we are talking about kblueplugd issue ;-) | 12:36 |
| Riddell | mhb: I compiled all the edgy packages on gutsy yesterday and it didn't make any difference | 12:36 |
| mhb | Riddell: I will try to hunt the red herring - the magic "KWriteD" line that doesnt appear in Gutsy but does in the magically fixed Edgy | 12:36 |
| Riddell | Lure: because it was broken when doko fixed the packaging on the package and we're worried he had a good reason to do it that way | 12:37 |
| mhb | Riddell: at first I thought it is simply not written anymore, but I think I saw a kDebug still there | 12:37 |
| Lure | Riddell: right, I have seen his complaint about merge in last developer report | 12:37 |
| mhb | Riddell: I am sorry I cant participate much in this bug squashing week - for the next three days I have to take part in some uni-preparation camping nonsense :o) | 12:38 |
| Jucato | anyone know how to make Dolphin/D3lphin servicemenus or where to put them? :( | 12:39 |
| Riddell | mhb: I'm not sure if kwrited is relevant, it's a daemon that lets you send messages to other user's ptys | 12:39 |
| Riddell | Jucato: /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/ | 12:39 |
| Jucato | thanks | 12:39 |
| Riddell | mhb: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2003/01/msg00582.html | 12:39 |
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| Riddell | looks like allee knows all | 12:40 |
| mhb | Riddell: I know it could be a red herring, but it is the only starting point I have | 12:41 |
| mhb | perhaps the all-knowing allee helps .o) | 12:45 |
| Riddell | mhb: it's annoying how this only happens with pykde, if it happened in c++ code it would be easier to use valgrind or the like | 12:47 |
| viviersf | Riddell, the gutsy one is starting now. Should be dont in 30 mins | 12:50 |
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| ryanakca | Riddell: ping, looks like the libgtk build-dep is still needed for KDE base | 12:56 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: ? | 12:56 |
| Riddell | why? | 12:56 |
| ryanakca | (nsplugin) | 12:57 |
| Riddell | did you remove the patch and run buildprep | 12:57 |
| === ryanakca pastebins | ||
| ryanakca | yep, and as for buildprep, there's no buildprep in the rules unless you just added it | 12:57 |
| Riddell | yes there is, it's there for all kde packages from cdbs's kde.mk | 12:58 |
| Riddell | and runless you run that, it will still think it needs gtk | 12:58 |
| Riddell | make -f debian/rules buildprp | 12:58 |
| Riddell | make -f debian/rules buildprep | 12:58 |
| Riddell | debuild | 12:58 |
| ryanakca | Ah. it needs to be run with sudo... sorry, my bad | 12:59 |
| Jucato | I can't seem to add any service menu to d3lphin, although it works in konqi... :( | 12:59 |
| ryanakca | Just figured out what the 'id -u = 0' meant | 12:59 |
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| Riddell | ryanakca: use fakeroot | 12:59 |
| Riddell | Jucato: you put it in the d3lphin directory presumably? | 01:00 |
| Jucato | yes | 01:00 |
| Jucato | in the directory you mentioned. here's the service menu: http://jucato.org/stuff/compress.desktop | 01:00 |
| Jucato | currently dolphin doesn't have one to compress files (as tar.gz and tar.bz2 only ) | 01:00 |
| Riddell | Jucato: all/all -> all/allfiles | 01:02 |
| Jucato | but that would exclude directories too, right? | 01:02 |
| === Jucato is trying to somehow recreate the Ark service menu... :( | ||
| Riddell | Jucato: there's already a Compress Here option for directories | 01:03 |
| Jucato | hm.. oh ok :) | 01:04 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: I supposed 'debuild -S -sa -kE95EDDC9' would work instead of 'debuild'? | 01:04 |
| === Jucato tries again | ||
| ryanakca | s/supposed/suppose/ | 01:05 |
| Jucato | Riddell: yay thanks! that worked. I guess all/all conflicts with the inode/directory service menus (ark_compress and _extract)? | 01:05 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: you don't need -sa since this isn't a new .orig, and if you put your name and e-mail in the changelog then it should use your gpg key automatically | 01:06 |
| Riddell | Jucato: dunno, it was just a guess :) | 01:06 |
| Jucato | Riddell: lol! smart guess :) | 01:06 |
| === ryanakca grumbles at only having 20 minutes before starting a new school year | ||
| ryanakca | ok, thanks | 01:06 |
| Jucato | now to figure out how to have a Restore from trash feature... | 01:06 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: that's exciting, think of all the new things you'll learn | 01:07 |
| ryanakca | Hehe :D | 01:07 |
| Jucato | hehe | 01:07 |
| === Jucato is a can't wait to go to (online) school next year... | ||
| ryanakca | Riddell: herm. do you want me to send you the current bzr diff, so you can work/commit today, or do I have time to/can I finish tonight | 01:09 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: tonight is fine | 01:10 |
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| Jucato | Anyway, Compress service menu here http://jucato.org/kde/compress.desktop if anyone likes/needs to use it or put it in Kubuntu :) | 01:11 |
| === Jucato goes for dinner.. and yes I suck at making debdiffs... | ||
| ryanakca | Riddell: okies, thanks :) | 01:12 |
| Riddell | Jucato: thanks, I'll add that | 01:13 |
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| mhb | _Sime: can I do something for pykde4 to make that error I poked you about last night disappear? | 01:24 |
| Riddell | you're probably better asking on the pykde list | 01:25 |
| _Sime | mhb: which error? | 01:26 |
| mhb | _Sime: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/680910 | 01:26 |
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| mhb | _Sime: some int/ssize_t edits make it go away, but I'm not sure if it's the right thing to do | 01:27 |
| mhb | amd64 arch | 01:27 |
| _Sime | which python version? | 01:28 |
| mhb | 2.5.1 | 01:28 |
| _Sime | post it to the mailing list | 01:30 |
| mhb | right. | 01:30 |
| mhb | thank you | 01:30 |
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| mhb | the pyqt@riverbank one? | 01:32 |
| _Sime | yes | 01:32 |
| mhb | thanks, just making sure :o) | 01:32 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee|Remote: ping | 01:34 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee|Remote: are we having a meeting today? | 01:34 |
| Hobbsee|Remote | Riddell: oh....curses! | 01:35 |
| Hobbsee|Remote | i *knew* i was forgetting something of importance! | 01:35 |
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| Riddell | Hobbsee|Remote: what time? | 01:38 |
| Hobbsee|Remote | Riddell: i never emailed the ML at all. | 01:38 |
| Riddell | best do it now then | 01:39 |
| Riddell | or I can do it if you want | 01:39 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: would you prefer a night meeting, or sometime during the day? | 01:41 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: I don't mind | 01:42 |
| Riddell | whenever you can make it | 01:42 |
| mhb | who's got a meeting? | 01:43 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: kubuntu developers. | 01:44 |
| mhb | oh really? | 01:44 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: ideally, + 12 hours, but that makes it quite late for you guys. | 01:44 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: 1300 UTC thursday would be nice from my end | 01:45 |
| Hobbsee | but that may be hard for europe. | 01:45 |
| === Hobbsee is stuck with working a few late night shifts, which means that she wont be up in the morning much | ||
| Hobbsee | well, not early | 01:46 |
| === Hobbsee has trashed her body a bit too much, again. | ||
| mhb | hmm, I won't be there wednesday/thursday, but I have been on far too many meetings in a row anyway :o) | 01:47 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: away? | 01:49 |
| mhb | yeah, some crazy uni preparation camping | 01:49 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh | 01:50 |
| Hobbsee | yay, uni. | 01:50 |
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| Riddell | Hobbsee: well pick a time and stick to it | 02:03 |
| Hobbsee|Remote | Riddell: can you do 1300 utc thursday? | 02:05 |
| Hobbsee|Remote | Riddell: i didnt want to pick something that the majority fo people cant get to | 02:06 |
| Riddell | I can sure | 02:08 |
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| Jucato | hm... I'm worried about trash:/ in Dolphin... and since I have no idea how it's implemented in the first place... :( | 02:11 |
| Hobbsee|Remote | Riddell: great :) | 02:11 |
| Jucato | !schedule | 02:13 |
| ubotu | Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases | 02:13 |
| Jucato | er.. nvm. | 02:13 |
| sahin_w | Lure: Have you uploaded the new kdepim packages to somewhere? | 02:18 |
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| _StefanS_ | what about bumping dolphin to 0.9.2 - anyone working on that? | 02:28 |
| Jucato | yay you asked about that heheh | 02:29 |
| Jucato | saves me from beind told "submit a debdiff" :P | 02:29 |
| _StefanS_ | heh | 02:29 |
| _StefanS_ | i almost it packaged anyways | 02:29 |
| _StefanS_ | have it | 02:30 |
| Jucato | although I did realize that you can edit the Bookmarks sidebar, but no drag & drop.. | 02:30 |
| Jucato | I'm still a bit uneasy about Trash management in D3lphin though... | 02:30 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: would be great if you packaged it, please include Jucato's compress.desktop too | 02:31 |
| _StefanS_ | it has no mgmt? | 02:31 |
| Riddell | Jucato: that seems like the last notable issue with it | 02:31 |
| _StefanS_ | right, i'll look at it | 02:31 |
| Jucato | _StefanS_: basically you can't restore and empty from trash:/ | 02:31 |
| Jucato | you can Empty only from the applet or in Konqueror | 02:32 |
| Jucato | Riddell: seems like it. otherwise I'm satisfied :) | 02:32 |
| Jucato | (finally satisfied, that is, heh!) | 02:32 |
| Jucato | _StefanS_: http://jucato.org/kde/compress.desktop for the service menu. rename it if needed :) | 02:34 |
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| viviersf | Riddell, ping | 02:36 |
| Riddell | hi viviersf | 02:37 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: for soundconverter, is the source ready for uploading, from your ppa? | 02:40 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: oh, it's still got a ppa version | 02:41 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: ok thanks, I will include it | 02:41 |
| Jucato | _StefanS_: thanks... although I'm thinking of other issues with it as well... although limitations with ark's command line options | 02:43 |
| Jucato | I just thought of a use case: what if in, in a directory, there are 5 subdirectories and 5 files, but the user wants to only compress 3 files and 1 or 2 directories. that would be impossible right now with Dolphin. :( | 02:43 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: I put up a doc update in my PPA if you didn't catch that | 02:48 |
| Riddell | nixternal: I didn't, should I upload? | 02:49 |
| nixternal | yes, I have 1 week left until string freeze and I am trying to get a jump on translations | 02:52 |
| viviersf | Riddell, okay newest kontact is built | 02:52 |
| viviersf | seems to work fine | 02:52 |
| nixternal | http://ppa.launchpad.net/nixternal/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kubuntu-docs/ | 02:52 |
| === Jucato is completely stumped on this dolphin issue :( | ||
| Riddell | Lure: seen that ^^ | 02:54 |
| Riddell | viviersf: are you able to give Lure access? | 02:55 |
| viviersf | yeah sure | 02:55 |
| viviersf | he can just ping me when hes here | 02:55 |
| viviersf | Riddell, my version is 3.5.6 still tho | 02:55 |
| viviersf | but he can aptitude install to test it :) | 02:55 |
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| Kuhrscher | Hmm, is definitively nobody willing to do this little favor for us translators: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2007-August/001903.html | 03:16 |
| Kuhrscher | :( | 03:16 |
| Riddell | we are, alas, not overflowing with developers | 03:18 |
| nixternal | I don't even see upstream translators in the about dialogs now | 03:19 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: basic dolphin 0.9.2 package seems to work now. Just need existing patches and your compress servicemenu integrated. | 03:19 |
| mhb | Kuhrscher: heh, you force the Rosetta folks to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/46982 and I will do that for you :o) | 03:20 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 46982 in rosetta "Need to support KDE like plural forms" [High,In progress] | 03:20 |
| nixternal | mhb: hahaha | 03:20 |
| nixternal | or better yet, get um to start translating the Kubuntu docs :) | 03:20 |
| mhb | nixternal: because of this bug, our (Czech) translations are full of "BROKEN TRANSLATION" strings whenever there is a plural form | 03:21 |
| Jucato | _StefanS_: great! trying to figure out the Restore from Trash code between D3lphin and Dolphin in KDE 4... | 03:21 |
| nixternal | that bug is still about? | 03:21 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: great, do send me the patch once you find it. | 03:21 |
| nixternal | jeesh | 03:21 |
| Jucato | is there a quick and dirty way to compile and test patches? w/o pbuilder and stuff? :( | 03:21 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: debuild? | 03:21 |
| Jucato | hm.. ok never used that before hehe | 03:22 |
| mhb | nixternal: yes, and if nobody actually explains to the Rosetta folks we're being laughed at for this, it won't be fixed in Gutsy either | 03:22 |
| Jucato | almost tempted to use checkinstall hehehe | 03:22 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: think its in devscripts | 03:22 |
| nixternal | where at in kdelibs would something like this go anyways? | 03:22 |
| Jucato | if only users (konqueror lovers) could see how much libkonq stuff dolphin uses... :) | 03:23 |
| Jucato | oh how I love Sho_'s split views in Yakuake :) | 03:23 |
| nixternal | hehe | 03:23 |
| Jucato | er.. another quick question... when I apt-get source dolphin, does it apply the debian/patches/ to the source code already? | 03:25 |
| _StefanS_ | nope | 03:25 |
| _StefanS_ | only after debuild | 03:25 |
| === Jucato might try the ./configure, make, make install route just for tonight... | ||
| Jucato | aw shucks... | 03:25 |
| _StefanS_ | just do sudo apt-get build-dep dolphin to have all the stuff you need to build it | 03:25 |
| nixternal | ahh, kaboutdata.cpp and kaboutdata.h | 03:25 |
| Jucato | _StefanS_: doing that now... | 03:27 |
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| Jucato | argh I hate these cramming/crash courses... makes me so tense :) | 03:27 |
| Kuhrscher | nixternal: I fear we will never get this bug fixed. | 03:28 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: its always like that | 03:28 |
| Kuhrscher | I meant mhb not nixternal ;-) | 03:28 |
| mhb | Kuhrscher: haha, yes. Do you know where the translation dialog is defined? | 03:32 |
| Kuhrscher | mhb, nixternal: At the moment I am the only one in german translation team who works on all the Kubuntu stuff. But at the moment I am so frustrated that I am about to give up... :( | 03:32 |
| Kuhrscher | mhb: yes, sure | 03:32 |
| Kuhrscher | one moment | 03:32 |
| Kuhrscher | kdelibs/kdecore/kaboutdata.cpp | 03:33 |
| nixternal | yes, but wouldn't that mean we would have to add a line in each application for translators then? | 03:34 |
| Kuhrscher | https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/133817 | 03:34 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 133817 in rosetta "Make KDE translation credits nicer" [Medium,In progress] | 03:34 |
| Kuhrscher | nixternals: Have a look at the Ubuntu dialog. For more or less the same result, we just need to add a new section into kaboutdata.cpp where the launchpad translators could get listed. | 03:36 |
| nixternal | that's no problem, but where are the translators getting listed? I have opened up 4 apps and looked at the about dialog and haven't seen one mention of translation | 03:37 |
| Kuhrscher | nixternal: In the about-dialog? | 03:37 |
| mhb | nixternal: aren't you using english? | 03:38 |
| Kuhrscher | In german it is called "bersetzer" | 03:38 |
| nixternal | mhb: ahh, that's why | 03:38 |
| nixternal | don't look like it would be that difficult of a fix | 03:39 |
| === nixternal heads to skewl | ||
| Riddell | if you're using english no translators will be listed | 03:39 |
| Riddell | it adds another tab | 03:39 |
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| Riddell | british english should work | 03:39 |
| Riddell | hi Stecchino, were you going to send me a more complete proposal? | 03:39 |
| nixternal | Riddell: I can take a look at it later today if you would like...don't think I will have many questions really on implementing this with a patch | 03:40 |
| Kuhrscher | nixternal: Would be great :) | 03:40 |
| Stecchino | I was planning to but then the questions started coming and just put most of it in there | 03:40 |
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| nixternal | OK, I am going to go learn how to program incorrectly in java now (darn US education system) | 03:40 |
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| nixternal | bbiab | 03:41 |
| Kuhrscher | nixteral: in bug 133817 I posted a design proposal and a screenshot :) | 03:41 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 133817 in rosetta "Make KDE translation credits nicer" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133817 | 03:41 |
| Stecchino | Riddell: any more detailed then I put in the questions would be concerning budget and such... | 03:41 |
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| mhb | nixternal: hmm, it seems you would need to patch kdecore/kaboutdata.cpp, adding a new method for LP translations | 03:46 |
| mhb | nixternal: then, call this method inside ./kdeui/kaboutapplication.cpp I guess | 03:46 |
| mhb | Kuhrscher: by the way, Rosetta puts the information in there automagically? Is it possible to "tell" her that it should put the translations into another msgstr? | 03:49 |
| Kuhrscher | mhb: I don't exactly kown this is handeled. I talked with Danilos about this issue. He definitvely knows. | 03:50 |
| Jucato | _StefanS_: sorry to bother you. I've installed dolphin's build-deps and devscripts. so basically I run "debuil -rfakeroot binary" in the source directory? | 03:53 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 03:59 |
| Jucato | hi bddebian! | 04:01 |
| bddebian | Hi Jucato | 04:01 |
| Jucato | :) | 04:02 |
| Jucato | hm... so basically D3lphin has no context for Trash.. great! :/ | 04:02 |
| === Mez growls at his PC | ||
| === Jucato carefully waves at Mez | ||
| === Mez waves back and gorlws | ||
| Riddell | Stecchino: I don't think that's necessary | 04:18 |
| Mez | I have no idea why it's refusing to play a free format | 04:18 |
| Jucato | my head's gonna explode with Dolphin... :/ | 04:19 |
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| ScottK | Hobbsee: What month are we in right now? | 04:19 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: er....darn. | 04:19 |
| ScottK | OK. I figured this was better than a snarky reply on the mailing list. | 04:20 |
| ubuntu | 2007! | 04:21 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: fixed :P | 04:22 |
| ScottK | Cool. | 04:22 |
| Hobbsee | ubuntu, no, it's 2009. | 04:22 |
| Jucato | ... | 04:22 |
| ubuntu | Oh did I nod off? | 04:22 |
| === ScottK must have overslept. | ||
| Hobbsee | yes. | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | at least, it is here in australia. | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | you people are just backwards. | 04:25 |
| === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | KDE 4.0 beta 1 -- http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php | Meeting Thursday 1300UTC | ||
| === ubuntu licks his thumb and rubs out beta 1 in favour of beta 2 | ||
| Hobbsee | oh yeah, thanks | 04:35 |
| === Jucato computes again... | ||
| Jucato | ah 9pm.. | 04:37 |
| ubuntu | 200-9 PM | 04:44 |
| nixternal | 1300 ey | 04:57 |
| nixternal | I will be able to make it for the first hour | 04:57 |
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| Hobbsee | hopefully the meeting is only an hour regardless. | 04:58 |
| nixternal | true | 04:58 |
| nixternal | OK, everything is crashing here | 05:00 |
| nixternal | kded and konqueror | 05:00 |
| === Jucato yays | ||
| nixternal | I am getting some weird line horizontally across the screen as well | 05:00 |
| === ubuntu is now known as DaSkreech | ||
| seele | anyone going to boston? | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | seele: Riddell probably is | 05:09 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: when does the sponsorship list come out? | 05:09 |
| Riddell | goodness knows | 05:09 |
| Riddell | I was told to supply e-mail addresses by last week | 05:09 |
| Jucato | ah UDS.. :( | 05:09 |
| === Jucato waves hello to seele | ||
| Hobbsee | rightg | 05:10 |
| Riddell | Jucato: why so sad? | 05:10 |
| seele | Riddell: it begins 27 October instead of 28, correct? | 05:10 |
| === seele waves to Jucato | ||
| Riddell | seele: something begins 27th, I can't tell you what it is though, but I'm pretty sure it's the part you'll be invited to | 05:10 |
| seele | ah hah | 05:11 |
| Jucato | Riddell: not being able to go to any UDS :( | 05:11 |
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| Lure | Riddell: was afk for most of work day | 05:24 |
| === Jucato needs to get some cocoa... Dolphin driving him Krazy.... | ||
| DaSkreech | Koko | 05:27 |
| Lure | Riddell: so is new kontact confirmed to be ok? | 05:27 |
| Lure | Riddell: in svn they have just commited some build fixes that I have reported, so it is probably ok. | 05:27 |
| Riddell | Lure: I've no idea | 05:28 |
| sahin_w | Lure: Hi | 05:28 |
| sahin_w | Lure: Have you uploaded the new kdepim packages to somewhere? | 05:28 |
| Lure | hi sahin_w | 05:28 |
| Lure | sahin_w: I have version in my ppa which is supposed to fix imap, but it breaks pop3 teribly, so not sure if you want to test | 05:28 |
| Riddell | Lure: /msg'ed | 05:29 |
| Lure | sahin_w: but I hope we will have better candidate later this evening | 05:29 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: i uploaded your soundkonverter, btw | 05:29 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: thanks! | 05:29 |
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| sahin_w | Lure: Ok. In this case I'm just waiting for it... | 05:29 |
| Jucato | kmail (pop3) seems to be working fine on my end already (at last) | 05:30 |
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| Lure | Jucato: yes, but it has paste crash which is fixed in latest, but that one has pop crash :-( | 05:32 |
| Jucato | oh yeah I always forget that paste crash :( | 05:32 |
| Jucato | still have that... | 05:32 |
| Lure | Jucato: they have now build fixes, so I hope we can finaly get everything (pop, impa and paste working) | 05:32 |
| Jucato | guess my mind's being warped by working on dolphin hehe | 05:32 |
| Lure | it is not that much to ask from mail application after all ;-) | 05:33 |
| Jucato | heheh | 05:33 |
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| DaSkreech | hunger: pping | 05:34 |
| Jucato | pping..hm... peeping... | 05:36 |
| DaSkreech | actually yes | 05:36 |
| DaSkreech | hunger is peeping | 05:36 |
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| === Lure -> home, bbl | ||
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| hunger | DaSkreech: I'll pong you from home in a while... | 05:48 |
| DaSkreech | hunger: appreciated | 05:49 |
| manchicken | Grrr... the kmail paste crash strikes again. | 05:56 |
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| DaSkreech | Ever wonder why tying of Music and IM is pervasive ? | 06:24 |
| Riddell | hmm? | 06:24 |
| DaSkreech | Why can you do things like advertise what album you are listening to | 06:25 |
| DaSkreech | why can't you say advertise the site you are browsing? | 06:25 |
| Riddell | plenty of people paste links into IRC (annoying often without an explanation) | 06:26 |
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| lucky_lucas | Hi | 06:37 |
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| nosrednaekim | hi | 06:39 |
| lucky_lucas | I just had a bad bug on gutsy today, with the nvidia driver and no compiz etc... suddenly the machine were frozen and I only could restart it by sysrq+b | 06:41 |
| DaSkreech | Riddell: Good point | 06:41 |
| Riddell | lucky_lucas: report a bug on launchpad (or possibly ask politely in #ubuntu-kernel) | 06:42 |
| lucky_lucas | But I would like to know were I can get clues on which package is involved etc... | 06:42 |
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| Riddell | lucky_lucas: a complete system freeze it likely a linux problem | 06:48 |
| lucky_lucas | Ok thanks I'm reading launchpad to see similars, | 06:49 |
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| toma | is kitchensync packaged for kde 3.5.7 ? | 06:51 |
| toma | for feisty | 06:51 |
| Riddell | I don't think so for feisty | 06:51 |
| toma | ok, so i need to go to gutsy | 06:52 |
| toma | is it stable? | 06:52 |
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| Riddell | toma: I have no idea, it's entirely untested, I suspect not | 06:59 |
| toma | ok, i'll upgrade to gutsy | 07:00 |
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| Lure | Riddell: today's snapshot built and looks promising | 07:08 |
| === Lure uploading to ppa... | ||
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| allee | !ppa | 07:18 |
| ubotu | With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart. | 07:18 |
| Lure | allee: ;-) | 07:20 |
| allee | Lure: yeah, I'm a bit out of touch what's going on :) | 07:20 |
| Lure | allee: how are you doing? | 07:20 |
| Lure | allee: hacking kde4? | 07:20 |
| allee | Lure: not yet. Tooooo less free time slots. Reading here and there playing with some stuff. All I can manage currently. | 07:21 |
| Lure | allee: I have similar problem - I hope I can now finally try beta2 and look into digikam or powermgmt a bit | 07:24 |
| manchicken | Lure: Did that X clipper issue ever get sorted? | 07:24 |
| Lure | manchicken: yes, I have a version now that "works for me TM" | 07:25 |
| Lure | manchicken: I have uploaded in ppa, so it should be available in 1 hour for wider testing | 07:25 |
| allee | Lure: I've a mail from Gilles, with a list of bugfixes that are waiting to be backported. When you feel like it, I can hand it over to you. | 07:25 |
| manchicken | Wonderful. | 07:26 |
| Lure | allee: from 0.9.3 or from kde4? | 07:26 |
| Lure | allee: I would rather wait for 0.9.3 and then request UVF | 07:26 |
| allee | Lure: from KDE4 branch to 0.9.2 and .3 | 07:26 |
| Lure | allee: but I hope it will be released mid-Sep | 07:26 |
| manchicken | So anybody here know Mats Soderlund, a.k.a. Gunther? He's getting a lot of play time here at the office. | 07:27 |
| allee | Lure: lemme ask about him plan for 0.9.3 | 07:27 |
| Lure | allee: but I am a bit concerned due to new libkdcraw and all depends | 07:27 |
| allee | Lure: yeah, I just wanted to mention it :) | 07:27 |
| Lure | allee: list time he said (in blog) before end of Sep | 07:27 |
| allee | I'm currently undicided where to start: fai is waiting for un update, digikam, kdebluetooth. or merging stuff back to alioth ... | 07:29 |
| === allee wonders why libgphoto2 is still at 2.3.1 in gutsy, while lenny has already 2.4.0 | ||
| Lure | allee: good point | 07:33 |
| Riddell | we are in UVF | 07:33 |
| Lure | allee: probably some strange reason that it is excluded from automatic merge | 07:33 |
| Riddell | so apps aren't being merged automatically | 07:33 |
| allee | Riddell: lenny was release long before UVF. | 07:34 |
| allee | uhm 2.4.0 released 30th Jul | 07:34 |
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| ScottK | When did it get uploaded to Debian? | 07:36 |
| Lure | plenty of interesting additions in 2.4.0... but not sure if UVF would pass due to API changes and all rdepends | 07:37 |
| allee | Lure: debian has not changed API major. So locks like only additions. | 07:38 |
| Lure | allee: sounds good | 07:38 |
| Lure | will check diffstat and then see if we can get excuse | 07:39 |
| Lure | Riddell: is pitti back? (as he did last merge) | 07:39 |
| Riddell | Lure: no, next week | 07:41 |
| Riddell | allee: that's a month after DebianImportFreeze | 07:41 |
| Lure | allee: there are also some important fixes in debian that we probably want | 07:41 |
| Lure | Riddell: it is merges.ubuntu.com listed, but green as it was merged once in gutsy cycle | 07:42 |
| Lure | Riddell: so probably nobody noticed the new upstream version | 07:42 |
| Riddell | yep | 07:43 |
| allee | Lure, Riddell 2.4.0 will be a requirement for digikam in KDE4 (at least). | 07:43 |
| Lure | allee: ok, but we will probably not have kde4 digikam in gutsy or will we? | 07:44 |
| Lure | allee: but it would be nice in re-spin KDE4 CD (if this is still planned) | 07:44 |
| allee | Lure: but it's easier to add it later (kubuntu.org?) whichout updating tons of libs ;) | 07:45 |
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| Jucato | Riddell: is there still time to get a Restore (from trash:/) function in Dolphin? | 08:37 |
| Riddell | Jucato: how do you mean? | 08:38 |
| Riddell | if someone codes it, of course | 08:38 |
| Jucato | ok, I'm almost there I think... but I need to sleep.. :( | 08:38 |
| Riddell | Jucato: this a c++ job? | 08:39 |
| Jucato | and I think we need to add a build-dep to dolphin: libkonq4-dev | 08:39 |
| Jucato | yeah. | 08:39 |
| Jucato | I got Dolphin to show a different context menu if it's in trash:/ | 08:40 |
| Riddell | why does it need that? not that it would be a problem | 08:40 |
| Jucato | hm.. the Restore functions seem to be tied to konqueror | 08:40 |
| Jucato | konq_operations to be exact | 08:40 |
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| Jucato | oh I think I see where I went wrong in building... trying again :) | 08:44 |
| Riddell | the kicker applet must do it somehow | 08:44 |
| Jucato | I'll get to emptying later. :) | 08:45 |
| Lure | Riddell: kdepim seems to be rock solid for me (after runnign it for only an hour or so) | 08:48 |
| Lure | Riddell: will wait for sahin_w to test, but otherwise seems fine to be pushed to gutsy | 08:49 |
| Riddell | Lure: great | 08:50 |
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| Lure | Riddell: should I prepare changelog with list of bugs that it is supposed to fix? | 08:54 |
| Lure | not sure anymore, as there are many | 08:55 |
| Lure | I may just close manually as Fix Released and ask people to re-open if they get the crash again | 08:56 |
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| Lure | everybody: new kdepim is in my ppa (i386 only - amd64 failed due to ppa bug), testers wanted | 09:02 |
| Lure | https://launchpad.net/~lure/+archive | 09:03 |
| Lure | Riddell: sahin_w is not around, but I would at least wait for some positive report first | 09:03 |
| Lure | Riddell: I will prepare proper package for upload to gutsy (clean the ppa stuff out) | 09:03 |
| Lure | manchicken: ^^^ | 09:04 |
| Lure | Riddell: source package is ready for gutsy in http://muse.19inch.net/~lure/gutsy/ , but need to pick up orig.tar.gz from ppa (no space on muse) - feel free to upload when you think we have enough feedback | 09:12 |
| Riddell | thanks Lure | 09:12 |
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| Lure | Riddell: will cleanup bugs in LP when you upload | 09:13 |
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| toma | Riddell: upgrade result to gutsy: grub wasn't updated with new kernel && during boot Luks passphrade was not asked, making my /home dir inaccesible. So pretty smooth ;-) | 09:30 |
| Riddell | toma: how did you upgrade? | 09:32 |
| toma | Riddell: aptitude | 09:32 |
| Riddell | toma: the upgrade tool fixes adding new linux build to grub | 09:33 |
| Riddell | Luks passphrase? | 09:33 |
| toma | Riddell: that's a cryptsetup | 09:33 |
| toma | i'll check launchpad later on | 09:34 |
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| fdoving | toma: is that your laptop? - does sound work after resuming from suspend-to-ram? | 09:36 |
| toma | fdoving: no, its my desktop | 09:37 |
| toma | ah, my sata disks are now hd* instead of sd* | 09:42 |
| toma | that might explaun the cryptsetup failure | 09:43 |
| toma | let me try | 09:44 |
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| toma | yep, that's better | 09:47 |
| toma | so the upgrade is very smooth, device renaming isn't gutsies fault | 09:47 |
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| DaSkreech | I think that this laptop has some funky issues | 09:49 |
| DaSkreech | I have recently discovered that it's not that Wireless is broken it;s that I can't connect to a open Wifi unless first I connect to some wireless with security | 09:51 |
| nosrednaekim | probably knetowrkmanagler. | 09:52 |
| DaSkreech | very possible | 09:52 |
| DaSkreech | But I also can't browse at home | 09:52 |
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| hunger | DaSkreech: pong? | 10:11 |
| milian | nabend | 10:16 |
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| DaSkreech | Blast! | 10:25 |
| DaSkreech | get up for a drink and hunger flies by | 10:25 |
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| Riddell | nice search applet is go http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/strigi3.png | 11:09 |
| Riddell | http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/strigi.png | 11:09 |
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| gnomefreak | was amarok2 uploaded to gutsy yet? | 11:17 |
| gnomefreak | i looked a few hours ago and couldnt find itt | 11:17 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: how many hello world files do you really need? :D | 11:20 |
| gnomefreak | 35 or so ;) | 11:21 |
| === gnomefreak doesnt see why one wouldnt work | ||
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| gnomefreak | ryanakca: make hello world say something wwhen loaded (hello $nick) :) | 11:28 |
| ryanakca | gnomefreak: for? | 11:29 |
| ryanakca | irssi? | 11:29 |
| ryanakca | or C++/shell, Hello $username? | 11:29 |
| gnomefreak | for system boot | 11:30 |
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| ryanakca | Ah, at login? *scratches his head* | 11:30 |
| gnomefreak | hey its hard but its a thought | 11:30 |
| gnomefreak | ryanakca: i really dont think its gonna be that easy at all | 11:31 |
| === ryanakca will stick to porting his half finished KCipher to C++/Qt4 first | ||
| gnomefreak | but its a thought for gutsy+ 20 | 11:32 |
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| mhb | see you on friday folks, and be sensible at the meeting! :o) | 11:33 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: hmm. looks like uploading kdebase_3.5.7-1ubuntu18 to PPA mailed you too :) | 11:33 |
| ryanakca | see yah mhb :) | 11:33 |
| ryanakca | Have fun wherever it is you're disappearing to ;D | 11:33 |
| nosrednaekim | bye mhb | 11:34 |
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| manchicken | Okay, so I've got a v4l2 camera that works in ekiga, does anybody know how I go from there to getting it to work in kopete? | 11:45 |
| ScottK | ryanakca: IIRC you're using courier on the server. If so, would you please look at Bug #121907 and see if you can figure something out about what's up with that bug? | 11:45 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 121907 in courier "maildrop missing maildir path in authldaprc" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121907 | 11:45 |
| Lure | manchicken: did you try kdepim from my ppa? | 11:45 |
| ryanakca | ScottK: yep | 11:46 |
| ScottK | Thanks | 11:46 |
| manchicken | Lure: I don't have your ppa... is it in the gutsy repos? | 11:46 |
| ScottK | I suspect it's permissions related, but don't have a working courier setup. | 11:46 |
| Lure | manchicken: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/lure/ubuntu gutsy main restricted universe multiverse | 11:47 |
| === manchicken doesn't know what the expansion of PPA is | ||
| Lure | !ppa | 11:47 |
| ubotu | With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart. | 11:47 |
| manchicken | Ah. | 11:47 |
| manchicken | That's pretty freakin' sweet. | 11:47 |
| Lure | manchicken: I need at least some more testers to confirm it works for them so Riddell can upload to gutsy | 11:47 |
| manchicken | I'll test it out. | 11:48 |
| Lure | manchicken: exactly - it works nicely | 11:48 |
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| Lure | manchicken: here it works nicely for pop3 and paste - no problems/crashes whatsoever after running it for several hours | 11:48 |
| === Lure happy | ||
| === ryanakca nods... I wonder if they have two seperate buildds/comps/clusters for building... one for Ubuntu, and the other for PPAs, that way PPAs don't delay the building of Ubuntu packages | ||
| Lure | ryanakca: yes, it is separate | 11:49 |
| Lure | ryanakca: ppa is built on xen as security measure | 11:49 |
| ryanakca | cool :) | 11:50 |
| manchicken | What is "kandy"? | 11:50 |
| manchicken | Interesting | 11:50 |
| ryanakca | yummm *takes a big whiff of the garlic-bread smell that's floating around in the air* | 11:50 |
| manchicken | CLI for kdepim it seems. | 11:51 |
| manchicken | Err, no, that's not just it. Very weird that I've never heard of this before. | 11:51 |
| manchicken | Lure: That seems to work with the pasting. | 11:53 |
| Lure | manchicken: great, please test some send and check mail | 11:53 |
| Riddell | kandy is obsolete | 11:53 |
| Lure | manchicken: you use pop or imap? | 11:53 |
| manchicken | I'm on pop3 | 11:53 |
| ryanakca | ScottK: hmm. *shrugs*, maybe courier could be set up so that courier-authlib's socket dir is chowned to say, 'courier' user, and that courier-authlib runs as the user 'courier', instead of having the dir owned by 'root', and having to switch to 'root' for a couple seconds every time we need to access the socket? | 11:54 |
| manchicken | Lure: Send and receive both seem to work, filters are working. | 11:55 |
| Lure | manchicken: ok, glad to hear it is good for somebody else than just me ;-) | 11:55 |
| manchicken | It seems to be working quite well. | 11:56 |
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| Lure | Riddell: ^^^ you can probably upload - it seems it is not worse then current version | 11:56 |
| Lure | Riddell: I would preffer if sahin_w would test his imap issues, as I have not seen that on our Exchange impa server | 11:57 |
| nosrednaekim | Jucato has tried running it yet.... he can find a problem with anything. | 11:57 |
| Lure | but he does not seem to be around tonight | 11:57 |
| Lure | nosrednaekim: ;-) | 11:57 |
| Lure | nosrednaekim: he is also not around, so we are safe ;-) | 11:58 |
| nosrednaekim | quick.. get the new package in... | 11:58 |
| === ryanakca bbl, supper | ||
| Lure | tommorow I need to look into strigi hangs/crashes on my system | 11:59 |
| Riddell | Lure: danimo says it's good for him too | 12:00 |
| Lure | Riddell: nice to hear | 12:00 |
| === Lure -> bed, good night all! | ||
| Riddell | sweet dreams | 12:03 |
| nosrednaekim | bye | 12:03 |
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| manchicken | sebas: ping | 12:26 |
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| ScottK | ryanakca: Then you were able to replicate the bug? | 12:37 |
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