[12:39] <CppIsWeird> ok, in my resolv, there are two ips, how do i test if they are the problem>
[12:39] <CppIsWeird> *?
[12:40] <ScorpKing> ping them
[12:41] <CppIsWeird> strange, i get this message when attempting to ping: ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[12:41] <ScorpKing> strange...
[12:42] <boyakoosha> hi
[12:42] <NickPresta> !hi | boyakoosha
[12:42] <ubotu> boyakoosha: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:44] <Biovore> CppIsWeird: can you ping your dns server's
[12:45] <CppIsWeird> [18:41]  <CppIsWeird> strange, i get this message when attempting to ping: ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[12:46] <Savak> thats a messed up install you got
[12:46] <ScorpKing> CpplsWeird: what does ifconfig eth0 say? got an IP?
[12:46] <Biovore> CppIsWeird: does ifconfig -a show lo being configured as 127.0.0.1 ?
[12:47] <CppIsWeird> ScorpKing, my vm is running on the same adapter and getting internet.
[12:47] <CppIsWeird> its got an IP and doing activity.
[12:47] <Savak> sure it can share the adapter ok?
[12:47] <CppIsWeird> does it all the other times
[12:48] <ScorpKing> CpplsWeird: what a mixup. i'm thinking...
[12:48] <ryaren> Do you know an Unix-base music maker program?? Like reason or ableton
[12:48] <ScorpKing> hydrogen
[12:48] <CppIsWeird> and even if not, would not shutting down the vm and down up'ing the adapter solve it?
[12:48] <CppIsWeird> tried that, its still dead until i reboot.
[12:48] <ryaren> Scorpking: It was said to me?
[12:48] <ScorpKing> yes
[12:49] <hydrogen> die
[12:49] <ryaren> thank you
[12:49] <ScorpKing> ryaren: np.
[12:50] <dudeicles> could anyone explain to me mount points and their importance?
[12:50] <Biovore> only one filesystem in unix
[12:50] <Biovore> mount points allow you to attach other filesystems too your main filesystem..
[12:51] <Biovore> kinda like having a tree with removable branches
[12:51] <dudeicles> are they folders on kubuntu?
[12:51] <ScorpKing> CpplsWeird: are you using vmware?
[12:51] <Biovore> mount points are directories..
[12:51] <dudeicles> well i am trying to get a couple of HD's to mount on boot.
[12:51] <dudeicles> directories and folders are teh same to a windows user. LOL
[12:51] <dudeicles> that's what I meant.
[12:52] <CppIsWeird> ScorpKing: yep.
[12:53] <ScorpKing> CpplsWeird: haha. i think that's it. what are you running in vmware?
[12:53] <CppIsWeird> naturally thats easy to point out as the culprit. But that doesnt solve why this only happens periodically.
[12:53] <dudeicles> Biovore: how would I set full permissions so taht I can do whatever I want to a backup HD?
[12:54] <dudeicles> since this is my personal computer, I just want it to be open to me regardless of logging in as root or as myself.
[12:54] <ScorpKing> it looks like the VPN
[12:54] <ScorpKing> is the problem
[12:56] <ScorpKing> where do i change dns server ip's in dnsmasq? it's giving out the wrong dns.
[12:57] <ronan> hello iam a problem for samba configuration
[12:57] <ronan> can help me?
[12:57] <ScorpKing> sure
[12:57] <ronan> i search the code for the console
[12:57] <ScorpKing> ronan: what's the problem?
[12:58] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: think you can help me out. I want my mounted HD's to be accessible by all users on this computer.
[12:58] <ScorpKing> ronan: i don't understand.
[12:58] <ronan> i don't can control saba in graphic interface
[12:59] <ronan> and i want the command for control
[12:59] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: make sure the mount points have permissions for all users.
[01:00] <ronan> en francais ca serai plus simple
[01:00] <ronan> donc je reeaye
[01:00] <ScorpKing> ronan: run - man sbmcontrol
[01:01] <ScorpKing> ronan: jammer ek begrypt nie mooi nie. english please.
[01:02] <Biovore> !fr
[01:02] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:02] <ronan> sure just try it
[01:02] <ronan> scuz
[01:09] <ScorpKing> how is it possible to have dns but route -n shows '0.0.0.0  0.0.0.0  0.0.0.0  U 0 0 0 ppp0' ? resolve.conf shows 10.11.12.13/14 but i can't ping either.
[01:10] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: did you get it working?
[01:12] <nparz> A process called haldaemo is taking up 17% of my processor and it's slowing my computer down a bit.  According to some of my friends, this isn't normal.. or is it? My friend that uses ubuntu doesn't have that at the top of his list, either..
[01:13] <intelikey> !hal
[01:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:13] <intelikey> !hald
[01:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hald - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:13] <intelikey> bah
[01:13] <Ch1ppy> hey, I'm trying to set up my printer with little success, and I was wondering if anyone could help me out
[01:13] <intelikey> dumb bot
[01:13] <nparz> Lol
[01:14] <nparz> It's running a little bit better since I restarted but it's still at the top of my list..
[01:15] <intelikey> nparz hal = hardware abstraction layer    iirc  it facilitates userspace automounting of hot wsapable media devices like cdrom's and usb devices   so it is possable for your system to have hardware that would make hal/d use more nad/or less cpu
[01:16] <nparz> Well, I had mounted an external drive earlier.. but that was it.
[01:16] <emilsedgh> hal is a daemon...shouldnt take much proccess (AFAIK)
[01:16] <nparz> Yeah I know, that's what is annoying
[01:17] <intelikey> emilsedgh true   but how much the gui talks with the daemon will affect how much it uses
[01:17] <nparz> Ehh, regardless though.. I'm not using anything that's mounted and I'm not using my cdrom.
[01:17] <emilsedgh> intelikey: yes, But I think that applications will not talk to it much time...i dunno
[01:18] <kilrae> i am all-of-the-sudden getting black context menus in beryl
[01:18] <intelikey> have someone that has the same system and uses hal check what they have % wise  and compare notes
[01:19] <nparz> My friend who uses Ubuntu said it wasn't near the top of his processes at all.. so I know this can't normal
[01:19] <nparz> Is it possible or just restart it or terminate it?
[01:19] <intelikey> sudo /etc/init.d/hal* stop
[01:19] <intelikey> sudo /etc/init.d/hal* start
[01:20] <intelikey> sudo /etc/init.d/hal* restart
[01:21] <ScorpKing> CpplsWeird: http://frankmash.blogspot.com/2005/12/ping-sendmsg-operation-not-permitted.html
[01:21] <Ch1ppy> Can anyone help me set up my printer?
[01:23] <nparz> Yeaah, I did that command and it shut my computer down
 Is it possible or just restart it or terminate it? <<< thus i listed your options for hal.
[01:24] <nparz> I didn't know that it would restart my computer..
[01:24] <intelikey> it shouldn't
[01:24] <nparz> It did
[01:24] <nparz> -.-
[01:24] <nparz> As a matter of fact, it shut off immediately
[01:24] <nparz> Which I thought was kind of strange..
[01:25] <intelikey> i could imagine it resetting kde  but not linux.  i don't use hal and i am running *bunut
[01:25] <intelikey> nparz yes that would be very strange.
[01:25] <nparz> Great.. so, what do I do?
[01:26] <intelikey> oh.  wait.  did you type it with the asterisk ?   heh it picked up the   halt command....
[01:26] <nparz> I pasted exactly what you typed :P
[01:26] <intelikey> i meant the asterisk to be interpreted
[01:26] <nparz> Oooh..
[01:26] <nparz> So how exactly should it be typed?
[01:26] <intelikey> as  either   hal  or  hald  which ever you have in that dir
[01:26] <nparz> It's hald
[01:27] <intelikey> use the tab key   :)
[01:27] <nparz> Why?
[01:27] <nparz> Wtf?
[01:27] <nparz> o.o
[01:27] <intelikey> !tab
[01:27] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[01:28] <nparz> I don't even remember the line of code you gave me..
[01:28] <nparz> But uhh.. say I don't what to use hald or whatever, is that a choice I have?
[01:28] <intelikey> sudo /etc/init.d/hal* stop
[01:28] <intelikey> sudo /etc/init.d/hal* start
[01:29] <intelikey> sudo /etc/init.d/hal* restart
[01:29] <nparz> Should I just try restart then?
[01:29] <intelikey> those are your options.   do as yuu like
[01:31] <Shishire> I'm trying to compile Konverter, and it tells me I need X.  Anyone know what package I can get it in or something?
[01:32] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: i'm here now
[01:32] <intelikey> !info xorg-dev
[01:32] <ubotu> xorg-dev: the X.Org X Window System development libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.2-0ubuntu11 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 52 kB
[01:32] <Shishire> thankyou
[01:32] <emilsedgh> Shishire: xorg-dev or something like that, let me see
[01:32] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: i fugure ur new to linux?
[01:32] <dudeicles> last night was my first time installing
[01:33] <emilsedgh> Shishire: to compile it there are many things to get, x headers, kde headers and..
[01:33] <Shishire> it just said x, and I didn't know which of the many things that start with x it was
[01:33] <dudeicles> i've played with it a bit before, but I think now with Wine I may just decide to stay with Linux
[01:33] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: ok then i'll have to explain a few things first.
[01:33] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: mounting hard drives is controlled in /etc/fstab
[01:33] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: Just so you know, i'm not a complete idiot, just a Windows idiot
[01:33] <intelikey> Shishire the development package most likely.  xorg-dev
[01:34] <Shishire> thanks
[01:34] <dudeicles> yeah I looked for that location and couldn't find a /etc/fstab
[01:34] <dudeicles> is it a hidden directory?
[01:34] <intelikey> it's not a dir
[01:34] <intelikey> it's a file
[01:34] <dudeicles> ok
[01:35] <dudeicles> explains why I didn't find taht dir. lol
[01:35] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: on linux there is no drives like on windows
[01:35] <dudeicles> ok
[01:35] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: everything is on directories under /
[01:36] <dudeicles> right
[01:36] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: if you want to add a hd you have to mount it in a directory
[01:36] <dudeicles> like media right?
[01:36] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: for example /media yes
[01:36] <dudeicles> k
[01:37] <intelikey> tty2 [greg$~]  ls -d 'C:\'
[01:37] <intelikey> C:\
[01:37] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: or /media/drived , /media/drivef and so on
[01:37] <dudeicles> ok
[01:37] <dwidmann> intelikey: right, like we'd ever be running short of confusion :P
[01:37] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: hardware is listed under /dev/
[01:38] <intelikey> :)
[01:38] <dudeicles> now I noticed there is a file system mounter in kubuntu, but not ubuntu
[01:38] <intelikey> dwidmann as with ScorpKing's post to a newbee ^
[01:39] <atomicpotato> on KDE how do I enter special characters like umlauts and greek letters/
[01:39] <atomicpotato> ?
[01:39] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: first hd will be /dev/hda second hd will be /dev/hdb and so on.
[01:39] <intelikey> yes the device nodes are in /dev/  but you do not access devices through /dev im most cases
[01:39] <dudeicles> newbee? where? lol
[01:39] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: right. My hds are hda1, hdb1 and hdc1
[01:39] <emilsedgh> dudeicles: ubuntu has filesystem mounter too, thats an applet I think...
[01:40] <dudeicles> emilsedgh: it's here, just not as easy to find.
[01:40] <intelikey> and then the partitions are   /dev/hda1  /dev/hda2  /dev/hda3 ...
[01:40] <ScorpKing> correct...
[01:40] <bronze> Hi all, I just built a kubuntu system from the 6,06 LTS disks. Now, when I try (as root) to do "apt-get install firefox" I get : Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.  This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source However the following packages replace it: libnss3 E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[01:40] <intelikey> except on my systems where there are no partitions.
[01:41] <bronze> Clearly I have some problem but I don't know what to look for.  Any suggestions?
[01:41] <emilsedgh> bronze: could you please try sudo apt-get update ?
[01:41] <ScorpKing> i still want to make a webpage for newbies on my website. just to explain the linux basics. will be easy to just send the link to newbies :-D
[01:42] <intelikey> !repos | bronze also consider spending a minute on
[01:42] <ubotu> bronze also consider spending a minute on: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:42] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: It's just easier when someone explains and you can ask your dumb questions.
[01:42] <dudeicles> for me at least. lol
[01:42] <bronze> emilsedgh: I had tried that and I just tried it again, same thing both times "Reading package lists... Done"
[01:42] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: true. lol
[01:42] <emilsedgh> bronze: maybe packages are broken, dunno, try it from adept manager
[01:42] <intelikey> dudeicles true dat.  and the only dumb questions in here are the ones i ask thank you very much.
[01:43] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: any luck with the graphical disk mounter?
[01:43] <intelikey> :)
[01:43] <bronze> emilsedgh: or maybe 6.06 is waaaaaaaay outa date... :-)
[01:43] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: the weird thing that's driving me nuts is that one boot my hd's are mounted I can get to everything on them, then next boot they're gone. I can't modify anything on them or anything. I'm about losing it. lol
[01:43] <bronze> intelikey: Thanks for the tip!
[01:43] <dudeicles> I can't even find them the next boot
[01:43] <intelikey> bronze err ummm also in dapper it may be  mozilla-firefox
[01:44] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: relax. that's what irc is for. lol
[01:44] <bronze> mozilla? whats that?  :-)
[01:44] <emilsedgh> bronze: thats LTS
[01:44] <bronze> emilsedgh:  yes.
[01:44] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: well i think most people are tired of helping me, because i have been in and out of the forums all day and been getting ignored most of the time. lol
[01:44] <intelikey> !info mozilla-firefox dapper
[01:44] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: not that I don't blame them, when I come in with these n00b questions. LOL
[01:45] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: Transition package for firefox rename. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.13~prepatch070731-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 50 kB, installed size 104 kB
[01:45] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: they do get bored sometimes. haha
[01:45] <bronze> intelikey: was joke.
[01:45] <bronze> :)
[01:45] <intelikey> yes but that wasn't  ^
[01:45] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: is your ntfs drives listed in /etc/fstab ?
[01:45] <dudeicles> dont' think it was.
[01:45] <dudeicles> let me check again
[01:45] <dudeicles> damn peer
[01:46] <intelikey> dudeicles in a konsole   cat /etc/fstab
[01:47] <dudeicles> intelikey: I love it when it's all just mumbo jumbo to me. LOL
[01:47] <underdog5004> dudeicles, using linux == learning
[01:47] <dudeicles> I see my hd's there here's what they say
[01:47] <intelikey> :)   you'll catch on.    it takes time to learn a new os
[01:48] <intelikey> !paste
[01:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:48] <ScorpKing> !pastebin | dudeicles
[01:48] <ubotu> dudeicles: please see above
[01:48] <dudeicles> yep
[01:48] <dudeicles> was going there. heh
[01:48] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: paste ur /etc/fstab
[01:48] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36250/
[01:49] <bronze> intelikey: repo prob - no repo's enabled. :-)  apparently thats the way it installs? (and how could I not know that? )
[01:49] <dudeicles> brb
[01:50] <hexstar__> hello???
[01:50] <hexstar__> hi, my video card is a 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) and it's stuck on 640x480 resolution even though I know it can go higher (it did in Mac OS X), the display control panel doesn't let me choose any other resolution besides 640x480 though and when I checked the xorg config there were other higher resolutions listed for the display...so
[01:50] <hexstar__> how can I make the resolution higher? thanks! :)
[01:50] <hexstar__> sorry if there were responses, I lagged out and didn't get them
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> !915resolution | hexstar__
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 915resolution - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <hexstar__> nosrednaekim: what?
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> hexstar__: anyway... you need the 915resolution package
[01:51] <hexstar__> ubotu doesn't know what you're talking about
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> lol
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> !resolution
[01:51] <hexstar__> nosrednaekim: oh
[01:51] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:51] <dudeicles> ib
[01:51] <hexstar__> thanks
[01:51] <hexstar__> installing
[01:52] <hexstar__> how do I configuring 915resolution nosrednaekim?
[01:52] <hexstar__> *configure
[01:52] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: try not to use spaces in mount points
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> hexstar__: not sure, never having done it myself. Google up a tutorial
[01:53] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: ok. how would I remove those mount points and make something else?
[01:53] <hexstar__> nosrednaekim: ok
[01:53] <ks3> hexstar__: when i installed it, there was no config necessary
[01:53] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: i'm working on it. gimme a sec.
[01:53] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: sorry to rush ya, it's been a frustrating day with linux
[01:53] <dudeicles> lol
[01:54] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: np. just trying to sort out the mount options you have there. :)
[01:54] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: Kind of a cluster F huh?
[01:55] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: big one! lol
[01:55] <snips> anyone here is using TrueCrypt?
[01:55] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: Just tell me how to fix it and i will do.
[01:56] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: will do. still busy...
[01:56] <underdog5004> dudeicles, I can help you
[01:56] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: My wife will be happy then as well, I haven't let her use it since I put on Ubuntu. LOL
[01:57] <dudeicles> underdog5004: thank you, though I believe ScorpKing is working on what I need to do. I appreciate the offer and am sure I will be returning here tons more times for help and maybe helping if I ever get to that point. LOL
[01:57] <underdog5004> ok
[01:58] <TIRK> whoa lotsa users
[01:58] <TIRK> i have a problem with my linuxx
[01:58] <underdog5004> what is it?
[01:58] <TIRK> ok
[01:58] <TIRK> so earlyer
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> !enter | TIRK
[01:59] <ubotu> TIRK: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:59] <TIRK> sorr
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> its ok :)
[01:59] <TIRK> right now i cant bring up the menu at the bottom of my screen
[01:59] <underdog5004> TIRK, right click on the desktop, go to configure,
[02:00] <TIRK> no i have tried that
[02:00] <underdog5004> what have you tried, exactly?
[02:00] <TIRK> i made it so that when i move my mouse to the bottom the menu thing comes up kinda of like on a mac
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> TIRK: try "alt+f2" and run "kicker"
[02:00] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36252/
[02:01] <TIRK> whats kicker do?
[02:01] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: what shall I do?
[02:01] <underdog5004> kivker is the panel
[02:01] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: create two directories /media/hdb1 and /media/hdc1 for the new mount points.
[02:01] <dudeicles> ok
[02:01] <dudeicles> type sudo mkdir /media/hdb1?
[02:02] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: that is what your /etc/fstab file should look like
[02:02] <TIRK> and now when i go to the bottom it doents come up :(
[02:02] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: yes
[02:02] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: how can I edit that file?
[02:02] <TIRK> so i dont know how to get to the bottom thing now...
[02:03] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: sudo kate /etc/fstab
[02:03] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: or sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[02:03] <underdog5004> 8uy78
[02:03] <underdog5004> sorry, replacing keys on my keyboard
[02:03] <intelikey> ScorpKing kdesu  not sudo
[02:03] <intelikey> !kdesu | dudeicles
[02:03] <ubotu> dudeicles: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[02:04] <ScorpKing> it can be run from command line like that, but thanks. never used kdesu :)
[02:04] <intelikey> it can be  and you can end up with root owning things in your home dir too
[02:04] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: I can just copy over all exactly how it is in your paste?
[02:04] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: yes
[02:05] <intelikey> dudeicles ummm you don't need write access to those file systems ?
[02:05] <hexstar_> thanks, 915resolution was the solution :D
[02:05] <intelikey> cause that is read only
[02:06] <ScorpKing> getting there
[02:06] <dudeicles> yeah I would like write permission
[02:06] <hexstar_> it is the next best thing to mac os x
[02:06] <dudeicles> ok we'll start with what we have. lol
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> hexstar_: good :)
[02:06] <hexstar_> nosrednaekim: :)
[02:07] <intelikey> hexstar_ i'd assume you either really like mac osX or you really hate kubuntu  ...
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> hexstar_: its not "next best" but i'll forgive you for that.
[02:07] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: There's a lot more in my file than what you pasted.
[02:07] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: change the ro, in the options to rw, to get write access.
[02:07] <hexstar_> lol well I meant for macs there's mac os x and for pcs there's kubuntu, the mac os x of linux IMO which is a good thing
[02:07] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: it will be ok if all the rest of that crap isn't in there?
[02:07] <snips> anyone here uses TrueCrypt???
[02:07] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: yes
[02:08] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: dupilcates...
[02:08] <hexstar_> it means things just work, things are straight forward and easy to do. Unlike other distros there's little hassle involved in getting kubuntu to do what you want it to do
[02:08] <intelikey> below stand
[02:08] <hexstar_> !TrueCrypt | snips
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about truecrypt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: to be able to write to ntfs run - sudo aptitude install ntfs-3g
[02:08] <hexstar_> ewww ntfs
[02:08] <ScorpKing> ya
[02:09] <hexstar_> ext3 ftw
[02:09] <snips> hexstar_ : i'd like to known users' impressions about it
[02:09] <dudeicles> ok so now if I reboot my drives should show up?
[02:09] <hexstar_> snips: oh
[02:09] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: dont' have to
[02:09] <intelikey> dudeicles  sudo mount -a
[02:09] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: sudo mount /media/hdb1
[02:09] <dudeicles> maybe mount -a?
[02:10] <dudeicles> which one? LOL
[02:10] <hexstar_> dudecies: mount -o ntfs-3g /dev/addr /mnt/mount_folder
[02:10] <hexstar_> oops where -o is should be -t
[02:10] <intelikey> dudeicles the -a is all that are to be automounted
[02:10] <intelikey> dudeicles same as a reboot
[02:11] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: in linux you dont have to reboot
[02:11] <intelikey> unless you need to load i different kernel
[02:11] <hexstar_> would the drives be in /etc/fstab though?
[02:11] <hexstar_> -a auto mounts all mounts listed in /etc/fstab
[02:11] <intelikey> hexstar_ he just edited fstab
[02:11] <hexstar_> oh
[02:12] <dudeicles> ScorpKing:  tells me "mount: can't find /medai/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:12] <hexstar_> you misspelled media
[02:13] <intelikey> that's cause ScorpKing renamed the mountpoints form  /media/040backup  to /media/hd*
[02:13] <hexstar_> he has medai...
[02:13] <dudeicles> lol
[02:13] <dudeicles> only here
[02:13] <hexstar_> it should be media
[02:13] <dudeicles> not in terminal
[02:13] <dudeicles> I just retyped that here.
[02:13] <intelikey> hexstar_ but mount -a   didn't have midai in it.
[02:13] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: did you create the /media/hdb1 directory?
[02:13] <dudeicles> when I did mount -a it said this
[02:13] <hexstar_> then how did that error occur?
[02:14] <hexstar_> intelikey:
[02:14] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: yes
[02:14] <intelikey> hexstar_ typo in the irc client
[02:14] <dudeicles> yeah
[02:14] <dudeicles> I didn't copy and paste
[02:14] <dudeicles> I just typed it
[02:14] <hexstar_> intelikey, dudeicles oh I assumed it was copy and paste
[02:14] <intelikey> hexstar_ he told you that just above my post
[02:14] <hexstar_> kk
[02:14] <dudeicles> hexstar_: no prob
[02:14] <hexstar_> :)
[02:15] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: another cool thing in linux is when you want to paste it just hilight it with the mouse and press the middle mouse button to paste it.
[02:15] <dudeicles> oh cool
[02:15] <ScorpKing> ya
[02:15] <dudeicles> well what next?
[02:15] <dudeicles> lol
[02:15] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: what was the error?
[02:16] <intelikey> hexstar_ if you want to catch up  this was dudeicles' fstab http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36250/  and this is what ScorpKing told him to make it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36252/
[02:16] <dudeicles> here was my mount -a error
[02:16] <hexstar_> intelikey: ah thanks
[02:17] <hexstar_> I love how kubuntu runs without issue on my mac mini too...knoppix which has never given me trouble freezes when looking for the kernel
[02:17] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36253/
[02:17] <atomicpotato> how can I have numlock on by default in KDE?
[02:18] <hexstar_> atomicpotato: http://kim.biyn.com/Linux/how_to_set_numlock_to_be_on_by_default_in_kde2
[02:18] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: sudo umount /dev/hdb1
[02:18] <intelikey> hexstar_ ScorpKing and dudeicles     and this is what i would have sujested http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39371
[02:19] <intelikey> now i'll stop confusing things....    you're welcome !
[02:19] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: did that
[02:19] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: if you run mount, is /dev/hda1 mounted?
[02:19] <hexstar_> what's the \040Drive bit intelikey?
[02:20] <intelikey> hexstar_ it's the mountpoint he was already using
[02:20] <atomicpotato> hexstar_, that link fails it, I don't even have /etc/opt
[02:21] <intelikey> and if you notice he had the one fs mounting within the other as a subdir  i left the mountpoints as he had them.
[02:21] <hexstar_> just never seen a mount point formatted like /media/Backup\040Drive
[02:21] <ScorpKing> intelikey: only if ntfs-3g is installed. but it's a better option for write access on ntfs
[02:21] <dudeicles> seems like it is ScorpKing
[02:21] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36254/
[02:21] <intelikey> ScorpKing well i expected him to install ntfs-3g if he uses those options....   of course.
[02:22] <hexstar_> atomicpotato: sorry about that, try this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Numlock#For_KDE_Users
[02:22] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: it's not mounted
[02:22] <intelikey> !info numlock
[02:22] <ubotu> Package numlock does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:22] <intelikey> !info numlock hoary
[02:22] <ubotu> Package numlock does not exist in feisty
[02:22] <intelikey> well
[02:22] <dudeicles> then what is that first line ScorpKing?
[02:23] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: it looks like your /etc/fstab has a problem with the mount point
[02:23] <intelikey> !info numlockx
[02:23] <ubotu> numlockx: enable NumLock in X11 sessions. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1-5 (feisty), package size 10 kB, installed size 88 kB
[02:23] <intelikey> derr de derr derr    derr
[02:24] <hexstar_> atomicpotato: that works, it's a bit different of names though, it's K>System Settings>Keyboard & Mouse under NumLock on KDE Startup
[02:24] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: it is still on /media/Backup... not /media/hdb1
[02:24] <atomicpotato> ok
[02:24] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: Should I be logged in as root right now?
[02:24] <dudeicles> Mabe that's my problem
[02:24] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: no
[02:24] <hexstar_> dudeicles: never log in as root, use sudo
[02:25] <intelikey> "never log in as root"   awfully dogmatic  isn't it...
[02:25] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: paste ur /etc/fstab again. lol
[02:25] <dudeicles> will do
[02:26] <intelikey> how about 'there are extreemly few reasons to login as root, and this is not one of them'   ?
[02:27] <ScorpKing> intelikey: don't waste sudo. lol
[02:27] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36255/
[02:28] <intelikey> loging in is not possable on this system    so i can't possably login as root or any one else...
[02:28] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: it's still wrong. lol
[02:29] <MurielGodoi> Hi, anyone know how can I set the cedilla caracter in order to type in portuguese?
[02:29] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: I hit save when I was done.
[02:29] <Psycoshot> What's ttthe command to install
[02:29] <Psycoshot> Package: dvorak7min (1.6.1-4) [universe] 
[02:29] <intelikey> !pt
[02:29] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:29] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: replace it with the one i gave you. that one won't work
[02:30] <dudeicles> how? If save ain't doing it. what else could be going on?
[02:30] <MurielGodoi> ok sorry for that,  thanks
[02:30] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[02:30] <intelikey> MurielGodoi that's the best i can do for you there,   sorry if it doesn't help
[02:31] <ubuntu_> How do I map my sound volume to my speakers?
[02:31] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: brb, i need some koffie. lol
[02:31] <MurielGodoi> intelikey: That is okay, I asked in the wrong channel :)
[02:31] <dudeicles> lets see if this works
[02:32] <Psycoshot> What's ttthe command to install
[02:32] <Psycoshot> Package: dvorak7min (1.6.1-4) [universe]      in terminal??
[02:32] <dudeicles> ok they mounted
[02:32] <dudeicles> but I forgot to put in rw instead of ro
[02:32] <dudeicles> lol
[02:32] <hexstar_> what's a good gui ftp client?
[02:33] <intelikey> Psycoshot apt-get install "blah"
[02:33] <underdog5004> Psycoshot, sudo apt-get install packagename
[02:33] <hexstar_> !ftp
[02:33] <hexstar_> ???
[02:33] <Psycoshot> Thanks
[02:34] <hexstar_> please help
[02:34] <intelikey> !ftp
[02:34] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[02:34] <intelikey> !ftpd
[02:34] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[02:34] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: did you install ntfs-3g?
[02:35] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: yes
[02:35] <Psycoshot> how do I reinstall package?
[02:35] <intelikey> add   --reinstall
[02:35] <Psycoshot> TY
[02:35] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: change ntfs to ntfs-3g and ro to rw
[02:35] <intelikey> np
[02:35] <dudeicles> ok
[02:36] <ScorpKing> coffee arived :)
[02:37] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: Should I add hda1 to my list of hd's to mount?
[02:37] <albertmk> I have a problem. I tried to install NVidia in my Kubuntu by apt-get install nvidia-settings,apt-get install nvidia-glx,apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-386 and sudo nvidia-glx-config enable. Now my Kubuntu only works in Text Mode!
[02:38] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: no. its there
[02:38] <dudeicles> ok
[02:38] <albertmk> Any idea to resolve this big problem
[02:38] <albertmk> ?
[02:38] <phoenixz> Hi all, I have a harddrive with a linux partition which is not active and I need to set it to active.. How do I do this??
[02:38] <dudeicles> so now I should just try to copy a file to my HD's to make sure they're working?
[02:38] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: don't touch the other lines
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> albertmk: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:38] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: go to the dir and run - touch test
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> albertmk: that will allow you to go back into x.
[02:38] <dudeicles> ?
[02:39] <albertmk> before that, I d like to say that I removed all packages installed
[02:39] <dudeicles> how do you do that?
[02:39] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: go to /media/hdb1/ and run - touch test
[02:39] <albertmk> by sudo apt-get autoremove package
[02:39] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: cd
[02:39] <intelikey> ScorpKing "test" is a command you know?
[02:39] <hexstar_> holy crap pureftpd is easy to setup
[02:39] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: touch testfile
[02:39] <ScorpKing> sorry :)
[02:39] <hexstar_> or touch prettygirl
[02:39] <albertmk> ScorpKing: thanks
[02:40] <ScorpKing> for?
[02:40] <dudeicles> touch: cannot touch `testfile': Read-only file system
[02:40] <joselinares> please kubuntu in spani...
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> !es
[02:40] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:40] <hexstar_> !esp
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: unmount it
[02:40] <hexstar_> !es
[02:41] <dudeicles> rgr
[02:41] <hexstar_> rgr?
[02:41] <dudeicles> can't I just do sudo mount -a?
[02:41] <dudeicles> lol sorry
[02:41] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: and then remount it (/dev/hdb1)
[02:41] <joselinares> gracias
[02:41] <intelikey> hexstar_ nosrednaekim beet you to it by about 4 seconds
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> de nada
[02:41] <dudeicles> I am not priveleged to unmount
[02:41] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: sudo umount /dev/hdb1
[02:42] <hexstar_> sudo before command dudeicles
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> ate speed...not accuracy
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> *at
[02:42] <dudeicles> someday I'll learn
[02:42] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: it will be worth it...
[02:42] <intelikey> nosrednaekim ate speed,,,,  no wonder he was so quick on the draw...
[02:42] <ScorpKing> lol
[02:42] <dudeicles> now how do I remount it?
[02:43] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: sudo mount /dev/hdb1
[02:43] <dudeicles> sudo mount -a?
[02:43] <hexstar_> right
[02:43] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: or sudo mount -a yes
[02:43] <dudeicles> shoot
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: lol
[02:43] <dudeicles> unknown file system
[02:43] <dudeicles> ntfs-3g
[02:43] <intelikey> if it has users, in the options you don't need sudo to mount it...
[02:43] <intelikey> and you will own the mount thus the umask will be you as the owner,   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39371
[02:44] <hexstar_> dudeicles: you need to install ntfs-3g
[02:44] <dudeicles> I ran the apt-get
[02:44] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: sudo aptitude install ntfs-3g
[02:44] <hexstar_> dudeicles: did you restart after the apt-get?
[02:45] <ScorpKing> no need
[02:45] <intelikey> heh
[02:45] <hexstar_> lol k
[02:45] <hexstar_> such a hard habit to break :P
[02:45] <dudeicles> weird it must not have installed
[02:45] <dudeicles> doing it again
[02:45] <hexstar_> ok
[02:46] <hexstar_> is there a chinese kubuntu channel? :D
[02:46] <hexstar_> !ch
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <ScorpKing> funny
[02:46] <hexstar_> !asain
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asain - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <hexstar_> !asian
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asian - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <dudeicles> gonna reboot
[02:46] <dudeicles> bbiab
[02:46] <hexstar_> dudeicles: ok
[02:46] <ScorpKing> ok
[02:46] <BluesKaj> !cn
[02:46] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[02:46] <ScorpKing> possible
[02:47] <hexstar_> ah awesome...chinese help... :P
[02:47] <hexstar_> not that I actually speak chinese, just fun to watch :P
[02:47] <ScorpKing> u chinese?
[02:47] <ScorpKing> lol
[02:47] <dudeicles> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36256/
[02:47] <BluesKaj> how can one read the tiny font
[02:48] <underdog5004> BluesKaj, with really good eyesight
[02:48] <underdog5004> :)
[02:48] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: u done?
[02:48] <dudeicles> I was just showing intelikey my fstab
[02:48] <dudeicles> gonna reboot right now.
[02:48] <ScorpKing> ok
[02:49] <intelikey> dudeicles ok.  that should work.    sudo umount /media/* ;sudo mount -a ;ls /media/hdc1
[02:49] <BluesKaj> underdog5004, not with these old eyes ...wonder if ctrl+ works on chinese characters :)
[02:49] <underdog5004> lol
[02:49] <ScorpKing> haha
[02:50] <intelikey> or reboot ....
[02:50] <hexstar_> You should see the fonts in Mac OS 1...there is a seperate font file for each font size!
[02:51] <ScorpKing> u ppl seem bored. lol why do i have blank dns servers but i'm online?
[02:51] <hexstar_> really...it's amazing how primitive computers were originally
[02:51] <hexstar_> ScorpKing: what do you mean blank dns servers?
[02:51] <intelikey> ScorpKing cat /etc/resolv.conf
[02:51] <hexstar_> You mean none set in your settings? In that case you are being assigned dhcp servers by your ISP's dhcp service
[02:51] <ScorpKing> 0.0.0.0         0.0.0.0         0.0.0.0         U     0      0        0 ppp0
[02:51] <hexstar_> your ISP's dhcp service is assigning you dns servers
[02:52] <dudeicles> won't do the touch command
[02:52] <ScorpKing> nameservers 10.11.12.13/14 can't ping them
[02:52] <intelikey> dudeicles pastebin the output of     mount
[02:52] <ScorpKing> :)
[02:52] <dudeicles> type sudo mount?
[02:52] <intelikey> no
[02:53] <ScorpKing> no need
[02:53] <intelikey> just    mount
[02:53] <hexstar_> ScorpKing: what are you trying to ping?
[02:53] <ScorpKing> dns servers
[02:53] <ScorpKing> route on all traffic is 0.0.0.0
[02:53] <dudeicles> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36257/
[02:54] <hexstar_> ScorpKing: I'm not sure how to view current dns servers used in linux but I'm pretty sure that your isp is assigning you dns servers via dhcp
[02:54] <albertmk> Hi, its me again
[02:54] <albertmk> I could not find NDivia option ...
[02:54] <ScorpKing> nope.
[02:54] <albertmk> My X is working but not perfectly because I could not find NDivia option, so I picked nv instead
[02:54] <albertmk> *NVidia
[02:54] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: it mounted ok.
[02:54] <intelikey> type fuseblk ???
[02:55] <hexstar_> ScorpKing: it's the only possibility if you're online now and have no dns servers defined in your resolv config...you need dns servers to access websites and resolve this servers domain name
[02:55] <albertmk> ScorpKing: any idea?
[02:55] <dudeicles> but it won't allow me to do touch
[02:55] <dudeicles> so i'm sure it's not write enabled
[02:55] <hexstar_> dudeicles: sudo touch blah
[02:55] <dudeicles> oh
[02:55] <dudeicles> maybe I didn't do sudo
[02:56] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: ls -l /media/hdb1/ . what is the user?
[02:56] <dudeicles> ok no error now
[02:56] <albertmk> I ve beeing searching it and found out that people have NVIDIA option, not my case
[02:56] <intelikey> where did it get those mount options  "default_permissions"     that aint right
[02:56] <dudeicles> says dudeicles all the way down
[02:57] <ScorpKing> hexstar_: that's what i don't get. when i dailed it said there is a problem with dns, but i'm online.
[02:57] <hexstar_> I guess there isn't a way to see what dhcp has assigned for the dns servers in linux...:(
[02:58] <hexstar_> I hardwired my dns server to my router though
[02:58] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: and the permissions? -rw- something?
[02:58] <hexstar_> anyways I g2g, ttyl
[02:58] <ScorpKing> cheers
[02:58] <intelikey> what's with (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096) options ???    does something else mount that    or is ntfs-3g doing that crap   or what ?
[02:58] <ScorpKing> not sure...
[02:59] <dudeicles> yeah
[02:59] <ScorpKing> i've never used ntfs on linux before. who knows
[02:59] <intelikey> i've never had an ntfs fs so i'v also never used ntfs-3g    but that looks really strange.
[02:59] <phoenixz> I have here one HD from a raid mirror twin, the other is dead. The raid was setup with linux software raid. Is there any way I can mount (or better, start up from) this disk? mount tells me its a raid volume which it does not know...
[03:00] <dudeicles> intelikey: I don't know. can we delete some of that stuff?
[03:00] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: uhm.. gimme another sec..
[03:00] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: k
[03:01] <intelikey> dudeicles if that was your fstab you pastebin'd just before the reboot there is nothing wrong with that...   and where it's pulling these wierd options in from,    i do not know....
[03:01] <ScorpKing> for those that are bored - http://www.linux-faqs.com/faq/misc/ntfs.php
[03:02] <dudeicles> lol me either
[03:02] <ScorpKing> it seems like the options in fstab is incorrect...
[03:02] <dudeicles> really?
[03:02] <dudeicles> how did that happen?
[03:03] <intelikey> ScorpKing which options ?
[03:03] <ScorpKing> umask=0222,uid=1000,gid=1000
[03:03] <ScorpKing> maybe that should just be defaults
[03:03] <intelikey> are you saying ntfs-3g can't use those options ?
[03:04] <intelikey> the normal ntfs driver can...
[03:04] <ScorpKing> maybe. i never used it myself
[03:04] <ScorpKing> normal ntfs yes
[03:04] <intelikey> nothing wrong with those for ntfs vfat   but i don't know about ntfs-3g   man ntfs-3g might know
[03:05] <ScorpKing> :( i hate reading
[03:05] <ScorpKing> takes time...
[03:05] <dudeicles> should I just change back to ntfs in my fstab?
[03:05] <intelikey> although i would use in place of umask   fmask=133,dmask=022
[03:05] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: no
[03:06] <intelikey> cause i don't like all the files being executable
[03:06] <intelikey> Biovore no
[03:06] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: run sudo chown dudeicles:dudeicles -R /media/hdb1
[03:06] <intelikey> Biovore can't be done
[03:07] <intelikey> cant own ntfs mounts
[03:07] <ScorpKing> :(
[03:07] <ScorpKing> he sould change to ext3
[03:07] <dudeicles> well it did something.
[03:08] <Biovore> sudo mount -o user=1000,rw /dev/<deivce> /media/<mount_point>
[03:08] <dudeicles> I don't want to reformat, there's stuff on there I don't want to lose.
[03:08] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: is it working now?
[03:08] <Biovore> evernthough the write bit will not work..
[03:08] <dudeicles> not getting an error when I do sudo touch blah
[03:09] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: that's because ur touching as root.
[03:09] <intelikey> that's because you are writting as root
[03:09] <dudeicles> ok
[03:09] <dudeicles> I did just touch blah
[03:09] <dudeicles> and it worked
[03:09] <dudeicles> well I didn't get an error at least.
[03:10] <intelikey> then it worked
[03:10] <mrksbrd> is usenet a legit service? can u d/l things from it????///??
[03:10] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: the whole point of the uid and gid options in fstab is to enable you to write to the drive as a normal user.
[03:10] <dudeicles> right
[03:10] <dudeicles> mrksbrd: usenet can be legit and can be illegal
[03:10] <intelikey> mrksbrd legit is debatable,  usable  yes
[03:10] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: so it's fixed?
[03:11] <dudeicles> I think so
[03:11] <dudeicles> let me check the other drive
[03:11] <dudeicles> seems to work
[03:11] <ScorpKing> dudeicles:  then run sudo chown dudeicles:dudeicles -R /media/hdc1 as well
[03:11] <dudeicles> it's at least booting
[03:11] <mrksbrd> is it like usenext???
[03:13] <ScorpKing> dudeicles:  that will change the ownership of all the files to dudeicles so you can write without using sudo.
[03:13] <intelikey> ScorpKing will that work on vfat also ?
[03:13] <dudeicles> ok will try that
[03:14] <dudeicles> no errors
[03:14] <dudeicles> we'll see later.
[03:14] <ScorpKing> it should. linux can write fat
[03:14] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: ok
[03:14] <ScorpKing> intelikey: usb flash disks are fat
[03:14] <dudeicles> well guys thank you very much for your help, and I hope to be good enough to be of help here in the future.
[03:15] <dudeicles> anything else I should know or do to make my ubuntu experience it's best?
[03:15] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: ur welcome :-D google a lot
[03:15] <intelikey> ScorpKing it will NOT work on vfat,  and with the ntfs driver will not work on ntfs,  i can't specificly say with the ntfs-3g driver   but i know that the permissions and ownership bits are not on the drive...
[03:16] <ScorpKing> intelikey: that's why the uid and gid options are there
[03:16] <intelikey> yes
[03:16] <albertmk> Help, I cant configure my keyboard language in my Kubuntu.
[03:16] <dudeicles> alrighty then guys. I'm gonna mess around with wine for a while now.
[03:16] <intelikey> and why the chown/chmod commands do nothing to the fs
[03:16] <dudeicles> have a good one folks
[03:16] <albertmk> I used to be able to in the Kubuntu instalation process
[03:17] <ScorpKing> at last. my arse is getting ....
[03:17] <intelikey> thus "if" the ntfs-3g driver some how makes a cached perms bit some place in ram or tmp/  it's highly unlikely that it will last past a reboot
[03:18] <ScorpKing> in /etc/network/interfaces, how do i specify more than one dns-nameserver? seperate them with a comma?
[03:19] <intelikey> newline  iirc
[03:19] <johnny_> whats up everyone?
[03:19] <dudeicles> lol i'm back
[03:19] <ScorpKing> about 2.5cm
[03:19] <dudeicles> what's a good free dvd burning software?
[03:19] <Biovore> k3b
[03:19] <intelikey> cdrecord
[03:20] <johnny_> will it burn dvd movies or just pictures,text,programs,etc.?
[03:20] <dudeicles> I need to backup my files on my backup drives
[03:20] <dudeicles> in case ubuntu retaliates against them. LOL
[03:20] <intelikey> !k3b
[03:20] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[03:21] <johnny_> so
[03:21] <dudeicles> so which one's better?
[03:21] <dudeicles> lol
[03:21] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: k3b will do. just be carefull of the long filenames on the windows drives
[03:21] <johnny_> k3b
[03:21] <dudeicles> ok
[03:21] <johnny_> yep
[03:21] <johnny_> good luck
[03:21] <dudeicles> will try it out.
[03:21] <intelikey> !info cdrecord
[03:21] <ubotu> cdrecord: Dummy transition package for wodim. In component main, is optional. Version 9:1.1.2-1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 36 kB
[03:22] <intelikey> it's the cli backend used by most burning apps  ^
[03:22] <dudeicles> hey the fstab we did will work on any version of ubuntu right?
[03:22] <dudeicles> like If I login in KDE session it will still do the same?
[03:22] <Biovore> dudeicles: fstab is common to almost all unix's
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: you and your masochism..
[03:22] <intelikey> dudeicles yes
[03:23] <intelikey> nosrednaekim ???    who i hurt ?
[03:23] <ScorpKing> it should work. not sure about the UUID drive options.
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: masochism means hurting yourself.. and enjoying it. (with the CLI)
[03:23] <intelikey> nosrednaekim ???    who i hurt ?
[03:23] <ScorpKing> nosrednaekim: he doesn't have a pet. lol
[03:23] <dudeicles> so using KDE session won't matter?
[03:23] <dudeicles> I'm gonna reboot then.
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> lol
[03:24] <dudeicles> maybe i'll come back and squeeze your knowledge. LOL
[03:24] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: it wont
[03:24] <Krum> hm
[03:24] <Krum> anyone recommend any good irc chatrooms just for talking?
[03:25] <Krum> no technical issues or anything just looking for a way to kill some time
[03:25] <ScorpKing> can anyone tell me how to get the chatroom list on freenode?
[03:25] <BonBonTheJon> Krum: #kubuntu_offtopic?
[03:25] <Jucato> Krum: ##offtopic or #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:25] <Krum> tryed that i get an error saying it can't connect
[03:25] <Jucato> BonBonTheJon: dash, not underscore :)
[03:26] <Krum> but i'll try again
[03:26] <Krum> brb
[03:26] <BonBonTheJon> ScorpKing: in Konversation, hit F2
[03:26] <DaSkreech> !offtopic
[03:26] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:26] <ScorpKing> BonBonTheJon: thanks
[03:26] <BonBonTheJon> Jucato: I see :), I'm used to working in C
[03:27] <AirstrikeIvanov> Hi everyone. How do I configure my KDE so that a specific application starts whenever I log in?
[03:27] <ScorpKing> BonBonTheJon: there is only one. i'm looking for php channels among some of them.
[03:28] <Jucato> AirstrikeIvanov: by default, any app you leave open when you log out gets started when you login
[03:28] <flaccid0ss> !autostart | AirstrikeIvanov
[03:28] <ubotu> AirstrikeIvanov: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[03:28] <BonBonTheJon> ScorpKing: try F5, maybe
[03:29] <ScorpKing> AirstrikeIvanov: add a link to the app in .kde/Autostart/
[03:29] <ScorpKing> BonBonTheJon: i get a warning about lots of traffic.
[03:30] <BonBonTheJon> ScorpKing: yeah, there are LOTS of channels
[03:30] <ScorpKing> BonBonTheJon: lol. thats it. thanks :)
[03:31] <Krum> ok
[03:31] <ScorpKing> is there a nice 3d aquarium screensaver for linux?
[03:31] <Krum> anyone know any only about video game irc channels?
[03:32] <juan_> when i run beryl i get this error? but i have the glx stuff in my xorg > extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> ScorpKing: Atlantis
[03:32] <ScorpKing> let me google...
[03:32] <Krum> google away my god sir
[03:33] <Krum> good
[03:33] <Krum> hmm
[03:33] <ScorpKing> lol
[03:34] <rdvon_> I'm having problems with qtparted.. It says my hard disk has at least 7 bad sectors.. :(
[03:34] <rdvon_> er.. im having problems with my hard drive
[03:34] <Krum> any programs for linux that are free that can write movies to a dvd
[03:34] <flaccid0ss> rdvon: run fsck with the -c flag
[03:34] <Krum> ?
[03:34] <ScorpKing> nosrednaekim:  wow. not bad! :D thanks
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> NP
[03:34] <flaccid0ss> Krum: search the wiki for dvdauthoring
[03:35] <rdvon_> oh, and could the op kick rdvon. I left my other pc on...
[03:35] <Krum> wikipedia or the wiki on ubuntu.com?
[03:35] <rdvon_> ;)
[03:35] <flaccid0ss> Krum: ubuntu wiki
[03:36] <ScorpKing> rdvon_: no ops. if you have to recover use dd_rescue. it works good on hd's with bad blocks
[03:36] <rdvon_> flaccid0ss: it printed this out when I ran it in the terminal: fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[03:37] <flaccid0ss> rdvon_: correct.
[03:37] <rdvon_> flaccid0ss: was something else supposed to popup :P
[03:38] <rdvon_> Scorpking: I'm running a live cd of kubuntu..
[03:38] <ScorpKing> rdvon_: that will be a bit more complicated then. :D
[03:38] <lealgo> hi
[03:38] <rdvon_> er.. how complicated :D
[03:39] <flaccid0ss> rdvon: no. you probably want to run it with the -CV options then run badblocks on it after
[03:39] <flaccid0ss> !info smartmontools
[03:39] <ubotu> smartmontools: control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 5.36-8ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 256 kB, installed size 624 kB
[03:39] <flaccid0ss> also smart checks
[03:39] <ScorpKing> rdvon_: not too much.
[03:40] <rdvon_> flaccid0ss: I use smart tools than? :)
[03:40] <flaccid0ss> rdvon_: what do you mean. they do different things.
[03:40] <rdvon_> your confusing me flaccid.
[03:41] <rdvon_> i've never dealt with this problem before :)
[03:41] <ScorpKing> smartmontools is to prevent data loss. it warns you in advance
[03:41] <rdvon_> oh.
[03:41] <flaccid0ss> ok. fsck checks the file system for errors. badblocks checks the physical sectors for bad blocks. smartmon tools checks it for physical damage, number of spins left etc.
[03:41] <flaccid0ss> it warns you in advance if you run smartd
[03:42] <flaccid0ss> but smart won't mark badblocks are bad so they are not used again, thats where a surface scan with badblocks is required
[03:43] <rdvon_> flaccid0ss: badblocks gives me a bunch of options when I run.. what flag do i run it with?
[03:43] <ScorpKing> dd_rescue is to copy a bad drive to a new one.
[03:43] <rdvon_> Ah.
[03:43] <flaccid0ss> rdvon_: -svw
[03:44] <flaccid0ss> make sure disks is not mounted when doing these
[03:44] <rdvon_> should've told me tha before ;)
[03:44] <ScorpKing> i don't see dd_rescue in the repos so you'll have to download and compile it. thats the not so easy part. from a live cd that is :D
[03:45] <rdvon_> er... how do i check if my hard drive is moutned?
[03:45] <rdvon_> :)
[03:46] <rdvon_> *new kde user :>
[03:46] <ScorpKing> mount
[03:46] <flaccid0ss> rdvon_: you should read the man pages
[03:47] <ScorpKing> they help. in the long run... lol
[03:47] <fati> does anyone happen to know if there's a clean way to downgrade my kernel to a previous feisty version?
[03:47] <rdvon_> ok. /dev/hda doesnt show up in the mount list :)
[03:48] <rdvon_> how do i read the manual for mounting hard drives?
[03:48] <ScorpKing> man mount
[03:48] <rdvon_> xD
[03:48] <ScorpKing> good luck :D
[03:48] <rdvon_> couldn't resist :)
[03:48] <flaccid0ss> no wonder you have to spoon fed, you don't read anything..
[03:48] <rdvon_> :O
[03:49] <rdvon_> I read a crap load.
[03:49] <ScorpKing> as they say, spoons are there for a reason. lol
[03:49] <rdvon_> just not manuals.
[03:49] <flaccid0ss> well starting reading them. don't know a switch for a command, look in the man page. one day you might be able to read a man page, action the command without help!
[03:50] <ScorpKing> lol
[03:50] <rdvon_> especially reading them in the terminal :\
[03:51] <rdvon_> meh
[03:51] <flaccid0ss> ah so the problem is laziness then :)
[03:51] <rdvon_> :)
[03:52] <NickPresta> rdvon_, you also want to remember "apropos". In order to use the man pages, you have to know what page to turn to ;)
[03:52] <rdvon_> xD I figured out why bad blocks wasnt scanning, I forgot to put /dev/hda
[03:52] <fati> oh hai, can i haz a halp?
[03:52] <rdvon_> yes
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> fati: yeah
[03:53] <rdvon_> you can haz a lot of help :D
[03:53] <ScorpKing> lol
[03:53] <fati> wow, i can't believe i got serious responses for that :)
[03:53] <rdvon_> we're helpful.
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> "halpful"
[03:53] <ScorpKing> even while we need help...
[03:53] <rdvon_> your names fati.. I expected something was wrong :)
[03:53] <ScorpKing> wong not wrong. lol
[03:54] <rdvon_> vewy vewy wong.
[03:54] <fati> i haz a kernel needs downgrading to the one feisty fursion that werked
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> haha
[03:54] <rdvon_> er... you haz a kernel needs downgrading?
[03:54] <NickPresta> fati, have you opened up your package manager? You should see a couple kernel versions...
[03:54] <fati> yez
[03:54] <fati> yea, there's one meta package for linux-generic
[03:55] <ScorpKing> lol
[03:55] <fati> and then a few other packages that don't install properly and yell at me for not using the meta package
[03:55] <ScorpKing> mmm... ouch
[03:56] <Evolution2> hi guys. quick question. iam trying to install a window decoration called "crystal" but it gives me this "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[03:56] <Evolution2> roy@roy-laptop:~/crystal-1.0.5$ " when i type ./configure
[03:56] <NickPresta> !dev
[03:56] <ubotu> Interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[03:56] <ScorpKing> would placing another kernel in /boot/ and editing /boot/grub/menu.list to boot from it work?
[03:57] <ScorpKing> Evolution2: you need libx-dev
[03:57] <NickPresta> Evolution2, you need the -dev packages. Also, check out the binary: kwin-style-crystal
[03:57] <Evolution2> ok
[03:57] <ScorpKing> Evolution2: or something like that.
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> Evolution2: crytal is installed by default.. and is, in fact, the default window DECO!
[03:58] <Evolution2> its this one
[03:58] <rdvon_> how long does this hd scan take.
[03:58] <Evolution2> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Crystal?content=13969
[03:58] <ScorpKing> long
[03:58] <rdvon_> :O
[03:58] <ScorpKing> how big is ur drive?
[03:59] <rdvon_> 80 gigs
[03:59] <ScorpKing> i'd guess about 2/3 hours min...
[03:59] <ScorpKing> haha
[03:59] <rdvon_> :)
[04:01] <rdvon_> can i use remote desktop over the internet?
[04:01] <NickPresta> !ssh
[04:02] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> rdvon_: if you set up prot forwarding properly, yes
[04:03] <Dudeicles> well I tried to copy a file to my /usr/... and it said I did not have rights
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> HELP!!!! MY Kubuntu crashed! I want to do all those special effects things! PLEASE HELP!
[04:03] <Dudeicles> then I logged in as root and it copied over no problem. lol
[04:04] <Dudeicles> told you guys i'd be back
[04:04] <nosrednaekim> and you were... you are.
[04:04] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: stick your head up.. no wait go to #ubuntu-effects
[04:04] <ScorpKing> haha
[04:04] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: please dont
[04:04] <intelikey> you is
[04:04] <ScorpKing> i is
[04:04] <ScorpKing> he are
[04:04] <Dudeicles> ScorpKing: I tried to copy a file to my /usr/... and it said I did not have rights. LOL
[04:05] <intelikey> him are
[04:05] <Dudeicles> they was
[04:05] <intelikey> they be
[04:05] <stdin> !sudo | Dudeicles
[04:05] <Tm_T> stop that
[04:05] <ubotu> Dudeicles: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:05] <BluesKaj> beryl is for the visually deprived :)
[04:05] <ScorpKing> stdin: he is using ntfs-3g partitions and want to write as a normal user
[04:06] <intelikey> Tm_T problem ?
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> beryl is for the technically enlightened
[04:06] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: still... :(
[04:06] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: no it's for those who like flashy grills and spinning wheels
[04:06] <flaccid0ss> ntfs-3g defaults is write by user
[04:06] <stdin> ScorpKing: I'd hope /usr isn't on an ntfs partition
[04:06] <Tm_T> intelikey: foofoo talking, I don't like to see it here now
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech: wheels are useless if they don't spin..
[04:07] <ScorpKing> stdin: true... lol
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> *ducks
[04:07] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: /media/hd* or /usr?
[04:07] <rdvon_> Daskreech: compiz fusion is for sophisticated human beings :)
[04:07] <Dudeicles> on /usr
[04:07] <DaSkreech> !language | nosrednaekim Heehee
[04:07] <ubotu> nosrednaekim Heehee: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:07] <BluesKaj> eye candy is for fluff worshipers
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> haha
[04:07] <Dudeicles> using file explorer though
[04:08] <Dudeicles> that shouldn't make a difference should it?
[04:08] <DaSkreech> kwin_composite for the KDE!
[04:08] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: ur not suppose to write there.
[04:08] <Tm_T> nickbuntu: why this nickspam?
[04:08] <Dudeicles> well to add skins to my XMMS that's where I have to put them.
[04:08] <Kr4t05> I'm trying to get Xubuntu running on a Dell Latitude LS laptop, and the eth0 device doesn't work.
[04:08] <rdvon_> BluesKaj: Who don't wanta their eyes to fall out of their sockets. :P
[04:08] <Kr4t05> :/
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> Kr4t05: #xubuntu
[04:09] <Dudeicles> to /USR/SHARE/XMMS/SKINS
[04:09] <Dudeicles> LOL
[04:09] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: the only place u are allowed to change or add files is in /home/dudeicles/.
[04:09] <BluesKaj> gee lookit the spinning cubes with writing om them...ever cool :)
[04:09] <Kr4t05> nosrednaekim: They;re all idle. Besides, this isn't a DE-specific issue.
[04:09] <FirmWare> spam ?
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> Kr4t05: ok..
[04:09] <intelikey> Tm_T yeah it is rather busy right now.    or    it be  ;/
[04:09] <Dudeicles> so i'm required to use sudo to write to this place.
[04:09] <stdin> FirmWare: pick a nickname and go with it
[04:09] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: most apps have dir inside ur homedir for that
[04:09] <intelikey> Dudeicles i don't know if anyone explained it or not but most things in linux are case sensitive
[04:09] <Tm_T> FirmWare: you keep changing your nick, it causes spam to all channels you are in
[04:10] <FirmWare> sorry
[04:10] <Dudeicles> lol i've heard that.
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> Kr4t05: what does ifconfig show?
[04:10] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: browse ur homedir and under view select show hidden files
[04:10] <wabbit> this might be a dumb question but what do i run to get a proxy server with user auth running?
[04:10] <intelikey> Dudeicles so /USR/SHARE/XMMS/SKINS will not exits...
[04:10] <Kr4t05> nosrednaekim: Beh... Can't really pastebin... One sec...
[04:10] <Dudeicles> oh right.
[04:10] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: the dir will be .xmms or something
[04:10] <intelikey> exist even.
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> Kr4t05: just tell me if it shows an eth0
[04:11] <Kr4t05> nosrednaekim: Yes, it does.
[04:11] <Dudeicles> how would I get to that in konqueror?
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> Kr4t05: try running "sudo dhclient eth0"
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> check and make sure the wire is plugged in
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[04:11] <Kr4t05> Oh...
[04:12] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: under view
[04:12] <Kr4t05> I had it plugged in, but I only have one ethernet cable...
[04:12] <Kr4t05> One sec.
[04:12] <intelikey> Dudeicles in konq you can enter path just like you would enter url's    file:///some/place/on/my/system
[04:12] <Kr4t05> nosrednaekim: BRB
[04:12] <Dudeicles> ok then, what is .xmms?
[04:12] <intelikey> probably a dir in your home
[04:13] <Dudeicles> ok will look
[04:13] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: the directory where you can put all ur custom xmms settings and skins
[04:13] <nosrednaekim> Kr4t05: k
[04:13] <DaSkreech> Dudeicles: If it has a . it's hidden
[04:13] <Dudeicles> oh ok.
[04:13] <BluesKaj> xmms = winamp in linux' clothing
[04:13] <intelikey> Dudeicles wont see it if 'show hiden files' is not checked in the [view]  menu
[04:13] <DaSkreech> If you are looking in the GUI turn on hidden files if you aer looking on the terminal use -a
[04:14] <Dudeicles> well then that makes much more sense
[04:14] <intelikey> DaSkreech has a .   no.  starts with .
[04:14] <scienceboy> hi. does anyone know where i can get the driver to work the wireless card 'netgear wireless PC card 32 bit cardbus MA521'?
[04:15] <DaSkreech> intelikey: My apologies
[04:15] <Dudeicles> I will be sure brb
[04:15] <Dudeicles> whoops
[04:15] <Dudeicles> just brb
[04:16] <intelikey> !wifi | scienceboy if this link doesn't help then not i ...
[04:16] <ubotu> scienceboy if this link doesn't help then not i ...: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:18] <intelikey> Tm_T all quiet now.   is foofoo talk ok ?
[04:18] <intelikey> :)
[04:18] <Tm_T> intelikey: you cant use -ot ?
[04:18] <scienceboy> intelikey: thank you! am going to check out now
[04:19] <intelikey> Tm_T no fun bothering the ops in there....
[04:19] <Tm_T> intelikey: you mean me?
[04:19] <intelikey> errr   ahhh   well....
[04:19] <Tm_T> haha
[04:20] <SuprUsr> nosrednaekim: I tried what you told me and then tried to ping my router.
[04:20] <SuprUsr> No dice.
[04:20] <devilz> hi can someone tell me how to reconfigure X
[04:20] <Jucato> intelikey: meet operator Tm_T :)
[04:20] <devilz> when i log to my desktop my screen is blinking
[04:20] <SuprUsr> devilz: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:20] <quodlibetor> hi all, i was wondering if anybody knew where i could download a vlc .deb package for feisty ppc/ps3? My ps3 isn't connected to the internet so i can't do the normal thing.
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> SuprUsr: hmmm.
[04:20] <intelikey> Jucato i knew that long time now...  :)
[04:20] <stdin> scienceboy: take a look at: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=76385
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> SuprUsr: i'm not too good with ethernet issues... sorry
[04:21] <Kr4t05> Right. It's okay.
[04:21] <Kr4t05> Thanks.
[04:21] <Tm_T> intelikey: you didnt know I was op in -ot too? weird, so you havent been there much then :/
[04:21] <Britni> Hi all, I am very new to Kubuntu, I have a question..
[04:22] <nosrednaekim> Britni: go ahead..
[04:22] <Jucato> welcome! ask away
[04:22] <Britni> I just installed Kubuntu, and I am not getting any sound.
[04:22] <intelikey> Tm_T yes i knew you were op in *buntu* and no i have been in -ot about three times for a total of one rand and two peek-a-boo's
[04:22] <Britni> the player is playing, but no sound, speakers powered on, connected.
[04:22] <Minataku> At least you're not getting a fatal kernel oops like I am
[04:22] <Minataku> lol
[04:22] <nosrednaekim> Britni: did you raise the volumes on ALL the channels in the mixer?
[04:22] <DaSkreech> Britni: check to make sure the volume is up
[04:22] <Britni> Let me do that now, brb
[04:23] <DaSkreech> Britni: middle click on the speaker
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: gentoo...
[04:23] <intelikey> s/rand/rant/
[04:23] <Britni> Power all the way up, yes.
[04:23] <Tm_T> intelikey: so you know I'm scary hairy monster from mars
[04:23] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: Yeah, new kernel
[04:23] <quodlibetor> anybody?
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[04:23] <holycow> does anyone remember how to enable kdm themes on gutsy? i think i haveto delete an rcd file
[04:23] <Minataku> Not working out too well, it seems
[04:23] <Jucato> !offtopic | Tm_T
[04:23] <ubotu> Tm_T: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:24] <Minataku> I'm not going to bother debugging it for now
[04:24] <holycow> this time around its not giving me the readme to look up what needs to be changed
[04:24] <Minataku> I'll wait until 2.6.23 is stable
[04:24] <Minataku> Since this is an RC5
[04:24] <holycow> oh and kbfx rules
[04:24] <holycow> kudos to whomever decided to drop that into this release
[04:25] <Minataku> Oh well, I pray now that dropping back to a known working kernel will stop the panics
[04:25] <Tm_T> holycow: I use Kicker with Kickoff :/
[04:25] <Minataku> This kernel had a 176 day uptime, it should stay strong
[04:25] <holycow> whats that?
[04:27] <Tm_T> !kickoff | holycow
[04:27] <ubotu> holycow: Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[04:28] <holycow> oh i thought it was kbfx?
[04:28] <DaSkreech> !sound | Britni
[04:28] <ubotu> Britni: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:29] <rdvon_> this is taking way too long >:O
[04:30] <NickPresta> @Tm_T: we're kick buddies ;)
[04:30] <Tm_T> NickPresta: ?
[04:30] <NickPresta> kicker and kickoff. Quite an awesome combination, no?
[04:30] <Tm_T> meh
[04:31] <NickPresta> not a fan?
[04:31] <Tm_T> NickPresta: hmm, not a fan, been poking sources enough to say its ok but could be much better
[04:32] <Minataku> Sorry, BTW, talking out loud to nobody in particular in an effort to keep my sanity
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: do it over at #gentoo.... they are more sypathetic
[04:33] <intelikey> foofoo talkin' y'all
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> !offtopic | all
[04:33] <ubotu> all: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:33] <Britni> ok just checked connections, they are there , wil now check ARTS, brb
[04:35] <intelikey> speeking of arts   is it possable to pre-amp the output of a sound card?    best volume i can get out of this ac'97  is about headphone quality...
[04:35] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: amarok does it somehow..
[04:35] <intelikey> quiet headphone that is.
[04:36] <intelikey> nosrednaekim ?
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> what?
[04:36] <Britni> Sound is Enabled, I do have a CD with the Linux drivers on it. should I try and install them?
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> Britni: whats rhe card/ chipset ?
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> *the
[04:36] <BluesKaj> intelikey, the output of the soundard should be in the 100millivolt range , enuff to drive an outboard amp
[04:37] <intelikey> yeah should be     oprative word being "should"
[04:37] <BluesKaj> old card
[04:37] <BluesKaj> ?
[04:37] <intelikey> onboard
[04:38] <Britni> Now sure of chip, where can I find that info?
[04:38] <Tm_T> NickPresta: come by in #kubuntu-offtopic and I will explain about my kickoff ;)
[04:38] <Britni> brb, let me grab the CD.
[04:38] <intelikey> BluesKaj all my sound cards are isa   there is no isa slot on this board    cheep peace of junk.
[04:39] <DaSkreech> anyone seen raptor in the wild?
[04:39] <BluesKaj> intelikey, bummer  :(
[04:40] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech: raptor?
[04:40] <NickPresta> DaSkreech, I'm strict anti-raptor.
[04:40] <DaSkreech> serious?
[04:40] <DaSkreech> why?
[04:40] <intelikey> BluesKaj as if that werent bad enough it only has two pci slots.   i may have to pipe sound out the serial port...
[04:40] <Jucato> K Menu alternatives discussion in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[04:41] <DaSkreech> Jucato: It may be our only menu in two releases :)
[04:42] <hydrogen> mm
[04:42] <BluesKaj> ahh, that could be a prob intelikey , the impedance matching could be way off on the output connection, hence the loss in output level
[04:42] <hydrogen> but it isn't now
[04:42] <hydrogen> so its -offtopic!
[04:45] <holycow> is there a kickoff package for gutsy?
[04:46] <Britni> I think I found the chip: cm8338
[04:46] <ScorpKing> i'm gone... cheers ppl. :)
[04:46] <Jucato> none
[04:46] <stdin> holycow: not in the normal repos, no (I don't think there is a package for any version in the repos)
[04:46] <holycow> is there are private repo available? just curious to try it out
[04:47] <Jucato> holycow: http://kde-apps.org or http://kde-look.org has a Kubuntu package lying around I think
[04:47] <holycow> danke
[04:47] <stdin> like http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=55864
[04:47] <BluesKaj> well folks ...starting to nod off .. sacktime, night all
[04:48] <nosrednaekim> Britni: do a "lspci | grep sound" for me.
[04:49] <intelikey> [17192928.408000]  Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 0
[04:49] <intelikey> ooops  sorry
[04:49] <DaSkreech> Since we are on a sound kick how do I make my speakers be the main sound control?
[04:50] <dudeicles> intelikey: still have no permision to write my ntfs drives. LOL
[04:50] <Kr4t05> Guh...
[04:50] <Britni> Do I do that in terminal
[04:50] <dudeicles> i'm just about to the point of accepting it won't happen. LOL
[04:50] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech: right click on the mixer and say "set default channel"
[04:50] <nosrednaekim> Britni: yep
[04:50] <Britni> ok
[04:50] <intelikey> dudeicles did you ever try the fstab i posted ?
[04:50] <dudeicles> oh no
[04:51] <dudeicles> I didn't see it.
[04:51] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: ah apparently thats not what I meant :)
[04:51] <DaSkreech>  how do I bind my multimedia keys to speaker instead of headphones
[04:52] <nosrednaekim> Britni: paste the result here.
[04:52] <DaSkreech> what aout !paste
[04:53] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech: its one little line.... and what DID you want?
[04:53] <intelikey> /dev/hdb1 on /media/hdb1 ntfs-3g rw,users,user,fmask=133,dmask=022,noauto 0 0
[04:53] <intelikey> /dev/hdc1 on /media/hdc1 ntfs-3g rw,users,user,fmask=133,dmask=022,noauto 0 0
[04:53] <intelikey> dudeicles ^^^
[04:53] <dudeicles> k i'll change those only
[04:53] <dudeicles> then sudo mount -a?
[04:53] <Britni>  I am trying to do that command, can you bring me up in a seperate window?
[04:53] <intelikey> sudo umount -a ;sudo mount -a
[04:54] <intelikey> no
[04:54] <intelikey> scratch that
[04:54] <nosrednaekim> Britni: sent you a PM
[04:54] <intelikey> sudo umount /media/* ;mount /media/hdb1
[04:55] <nosrednaekim> Britni: umm if you didn't get my pm... you need to register. but anyway... just state your problem here.
[04:55] <intelikey> and test /media/hdb1 with normal testing procedures.   if ok   then mount /media/hdc1      and test it.   else report
[04:56] <intelikey> note     do not use sudo on the mount command.
[04:57] <DaSkreech> !register | Britni
[04:57] <ubotu> Britni: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:57] <dudeicles> paste it just like that? sudo umount /media/* ;mount /media/hdb1
[04:57] <intelikey> yep
[04:58] <dudeicles> line 12 and line 13 are bad.
[04:58] <dudeicles> no final newline at the end
[04:58] <intelikey> pastebin your fstab file    i'll have a look
[04:58] <hydrogen> uhh
[04:58] <hydrogen> unregistered users can recieve pm's
[04:58] <dudeicles> k
[04:58] <hydrogen> they just can't send them
[04:59] <Britni> I am trying to register,, having trouble findind the location. or how to start./
[04:59] <intelikey> hydrogen that's right
[04:59] <dudeicles> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36263/
[04:59] <nosrednaekim> Britni: don't worry about it.... what did that command give you?
[05:00] <intelikey> dudeicles heh  remove the word   ON    the second word both lines
[05:00] <intelikey>    sorry...
[05:00] <intelikey> dudeicles i'll try to pay closer attention     that was my bad.
[05:01] <dudeicles> no problem
[05:01] <dudeicles> [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[05:01] <dudeicles> what does that mean?
[05:01] <intelikey> means there isnt a blank line at the bottom
[05:01] <stdin> means you need to put a new line at the end of the file
[05:02] <dudeicles> lol ok
[05:02] <stdin> error messages aren't that cryptic :)
[05:02] <dudeicles> ok so now it should be ok?
[05:02] <intelikey> and that particular message is only a warning.  not an error
[05:02] <intelikey> should
[05:02] <intelikey> test it
[05:03] <dudeicles> touch ?
[05:03] <intelikey> how ever you want to test it...  copy and paste a file into the dir if you like...
[05:03] <dudeicles> touch /media/hdb1/
[05:03] <intelikey> not that   that needs a file on the end
[05:04] <intelikey> touch /media/hdb1/something
[05:04] <dudeicles> didn't mount
[05:04] <dudeicles> or it's empty
[05:04] <dudeicles> lol
[05:04] <intelikey> mount /media/hdb1
[05:04] <intelikey> test it again.
[05:04] <dudeicles> still nothing
[05:05] <intelikey> pastebin the output of      mount
[05:05] <intelikey> lets see if it's mounted some place else
[05:05] <dudeicles> don't see it
[05:06] <dudeicles> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36264/
[05:07] <Britni> I tried that command in Terminal, and it acts like I did not type it correctly.
[05:07] <Britni> lspci | grep sound <-=  is what I typed, is this correct.
[05:07] <intelikey> dudeicles ok.    and;   mount /media/hdb1      gives error ???
[05:07] <dudeicles> no errors
[05:08] <nosrednaekim> Britni: ah..ok. then just run "lspci" and pastebin the ourput.
[05:08] <Britni> ok
[05:08] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin | Britni
[05:08] <ubotu> Britni: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:08] <|deacon|> may I ask for some help with getting a custom background in Konsole?
[05:09] <yintelike> is anything using /media/* dudeicles a filemanager or terminal ?
[05:09] <yintelike> brb
[05:10] <|deacon|> bah...
[05:10] <|deacon|> may I ask for some help with getting a custom background in Konsole?
[05:10] <Britni> ok paste has been done.
[05:10] <nosrednaekim> Britni: many appologies, but I have to go.
[05:10] <nosrednaekim> Britni: you have to provide a link to it.
[05:10] <Britni> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36265/
[05:10] <intelikey> back
[05:11] <dudeicles> wb
[05:11] <intelikey> dudeicles is anything using the mountpoint ?    file manager   terminal ???
[05:11] <dudeicles> don't think so
[05:11] <Perseid> I just upgraded to Feisty and I notice now that it's mounting my NTFS partitions as RW. Is this safe? Is there anything I need to do?
[05:12] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g | Perseid
[05:12] <ubotu> Perseid: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:12] <|deacon|> does anyone here know how I can get konsole to display a custom background?  I've given it the setting to use a file I chose, but it doesn't display..
[05:13] <stdin> Perseid: ^ that was probably just install and used by default now, it's safe for most things, especially if you don#t actually write to it
[05:13] <intelikey> dudeicles    mount /dev/hdb1 && echo mounted || echo failed
[05:14] <dudeicles> failed
[05:14] <Perseid> So this 3G works isn't experimental and isn't going to eat my data? :)
[05:14] <intelikey> dudeicles       ls -l /bin/mount
[05:14] <intelikey> Perseid i didn't say that.
[05:15] <stdin> Perseid: it's not experimental any more, it's considered stable, but it always has the (small) chance of messing it up. but it shouldn't and won't with normal use
[05:15] <|deacon|> !konsole
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konsole - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <dudeicles> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 97092 2007-03-12 09:46 /bin/mount
[05:16] <intelikey> ok that is  suid   so that's not the problem
[05:17] <adenicio> stdin: i just bought my graph card how do i know if the drivers for it are install?it's a ati card and in monitor display > hardware it says its a vesa graphic card and driver : vesa
[05:18] <dudeicles> should I try sudo mount /media/hdb1?
[05:18] <intelikey> dudeicles ok that should not be happening.   lets change the fstab one more time.
[05:18] <stdin> adenicio: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:18] <dudeicles> or are we trying to make a point.
[05:18] <dudeicles> ok will do.
[05:18] <intelikey> /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs-3g uid=1000,fmask=133,dmask=022 0 0
[05:18] <intelikey> /dev/hdc1 /media/hdc1 ntfs-3g uid=1000,fmask=133,dmask=022 0 0
[05:19] <intelikey> then issue     sudo mount -a            and test as normal...
[05:19] <adenicio> stdin: tanks and where u on vacation or something i haven seen u much around
[05:19] <intelikey> i'll have to make an ntfs something er other and play with ntfs-3g  to see what is happening there..
[05:20] <adenicio> stdin: or u does only be there the beginin of the month
[05:20] <stdin> adenicio: I took a "break" for about a week, I only checked emails
[05:21] <dudeicles> won't let me drop anything in there using Konqueror
[05:21] <adenicio> stdin: oh email?do people email you the problems?
[05:21] <intelikey> dudeicles ok you are not going to     media://   in konqueror are you ?
[05:21] <stdin> well, yeah, I'm on the kubuntu-users list
[05:21] <dudeicles> yeah
[05:21] <intelikey> dudeicles that's why
[05:22] <dudeicles> media/hdb1
[05:22] <dudeicles> LOL so i'm an ignorant punk ain't I?
[05:22] <intelikey> dudeicles go to file:///media/hdb1     in konq
[05:23] <intelikey> test that.     i'm not sure you were actually accessing the kio slave  but if so   that's enough reason to make it not write there.
[05:23] <adenicio> !oh my | dudeicles
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oh my - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <dudeicles> takes me to the same place.
[05:23] <adenicio> !ohmy | dudeicles
[05:23] <ubotu> dudeicles: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:23] <intelikey> dudeicles maybe.   test it
[05:23] <stdin> adenicio: why the !ohmy ?
[05:24] <dudeicles> nothing
[05:24] <intelikey> adenicio is ignorant a bad word ?
[05:24] <dudeicles> lol
[05:24] <dudeicles> :P
[05:24] <adenicio> lol
[05:24] <|deacon|> ok anyone up for helping my dumb self with a konsole question?
[05:24] <intelikey> dudeicles nothing as in   fails your test ?
[05:24] <dudeicles> right
[05:25] <adenicio> no but the word pu** came out a little strong
[05:25] <intelikey> dudeicles or nothing as in not mounted... ?
[05:25] <dudeicles> tried to copy a .txt file and it says the same.
[05:25] <intelikey> k
[05:25] <stdin> adenicio: punk is not a "bad word" :)
[05:25] <Combatjuan> What program/protocol is generally used to transfer files between to linux boxes (assume neither is an ftp/http server).  scp?  Is there a samba like protocol that isn't samba?
[05:25] <intelikey> dudeicles show me the output of     mount | grep hdb
[05:25] <dudeicles> k
[05:26] <|deacon|> ?
[05:26] <scienceboy> does anyone know where i can get rtl8180_24x.o from the realtek website?
[05:26] <dudeicles> /dev/hdb1 on /media/hdb1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
[05:26] <Combatjuan> |deacon|: What is your question?
[05:26] <intelikey> dudeicles you can post it here   should be one line
[05:27] <dudeicles> intelikey: will do
[05:27] <dudeicles> :)
[05:27] <|deacon|> trying to get a custom schema going but Konsole won't display the jpg I've chosen
[05:27] <Combatjuan> |deacon|: "Don't ask to ask, just ask."
[05:27] <|deacon|> just trying to be polite Combatjuan  ;)
[05:27] <intelikey> and you should not have to edit it first.....
[05:27] <stdin> Combatjuan: there are many, if you want to use ssh (scp) then you can use sftp:/ in konqueror (like sftp://user@host/home/user )
[05:28] <intelikey> just prepend a space so the irc client doesn't balk.
[05:28] <dudeicles>  /dev/hdb1 on /media/hdb1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
[05:28] <dudeicles> righto
[05:28] <intelikey> k
[05:29] <intelikey> there has to be an /etc/ntfs*   configuration file...   cause it's ignoring the mount options...       dudeicles i'
[05:29] <|deacon|> anybody have an idea as to why Konsole wouldn't want to use the file I've chosen for the background in a custom schema?
[05:29] <adenicio> dudeicles: wat are u doing?trying to get read rite on your ntfs hdd's?
[05:29] <intelikey> i'll have to excues my self from that until i learn more about what ntfs-3g is doing.
[05:29] <dudeicles> yeah adenicio
[05:30] <dudeicles> no problem intelikey
[05:30] <adenicio> dudeicles: are u on kubuntu 7.04?
[05:30] <dudeicles> intelikey: is the plain ntfs ok to try?
[05:30] <dudeicles> yes
[05:30] <scienceboy> does anyone know where i can get rtl8180_24x.o from the realtek website?
[05:30] <dudeicles> adenicio: yes
[05:30] <Combatjuan> stdin: I don't think that my kubuntu came with an sftp daemon installed either.  sftp:// isn't working in konqueror.  Assume a vanilla Ubuntu install.
[05:31] <intelikey> dudeicles yes just drop the -3g in the fstab  should work     but.   i can't promice that it wont end up corrupting your ntfs if you do a lot of writing.
[05:31] <adenicio> dudeicles: is your hdd inside your pc,or external? if inside is it mounted allready?
[05:31] <Combatjuan> |deacon|: I just tried it with kde_gears.jpg and it seemed to work fine for me.  Although not only did I have to create the schema, I also had to set my current console to use that shema.
[05:31] <dudeicles> inside
[05:31] <dudeicles> adenicio: it mounts auto from fstab
[05:31] <stdin> Combatjuan: you have to install ssh to use it, there is a samba client installed by default, but not a server
[05:31] <stdin> Combatjuan: there are no services installed by default, so you'll need to pick one
[05:32] <Combatjuan> stdin: Thanks.  That's exactly what I was wondering.
[05:32] <adenicio> dudeicles: ok.have u install ntfs-config from adept manerger?
[05:32] <intelikey> dudeicles you should pastbin your fstab file   and point adenicio at the link
[05:32] <dudeicles> don't think so
[05:32] <dudeicles> intelikey:  I will now
[05:33] <stdin> !away > rdvon_afk
[05:33] <scienceboy> does anyone know where i can get rtl8180_24x.o from the realtek website? i need it to install a wireless card on kubuntu
[05:33] <|deacon|> Combatjuan, I can make changes to a custom schema as far as the colors go, but it doesn't seem to pick up the background image.  Were you able o use a jpg?
[05:33] <dudeicles> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36266/
[05:33] <intelikey> adenicio   ^
[05:33] <eljefe> does anyone know how to enable a taskbar / panel for only 1 desktop, rather than having all panels on all desktops (or none on none)?
[05:33] <dudeicles> sorry
[05:34] <dudeicles> i keep forgetting to put the nick in front
[05:35] <Combatjuan> eljefe: The panel itself or the items in the taskbar (like konsole, firefox, etc...)?
[05:35] <Jucato> eljefe: do you mean that you don't want the list of running apps in the taskbar to show all running windows on all desktops? or you want the whole panel to only be on one desktop?
[05:36] <eljefe> i want various panels on different desktops, but only the pager to be common across all of them...
[05:36] <dudeicles> adenicio: any ideas?
[05:36] <kat> haha don't mean to hijack the q&a, but I totally lost my running apps in my taskbar a while ago...
[05:36] <stdin> scienceboy: http://tinyurl.com/ygw9ka ?
[05:37] <Combatjuan> eljefe: I don't think there is any easy way to make the panel itself only exist on one desktop (this would probably require changes to the source code).  If you want only programs from that desktop, right click on the panel, configure panel, Taskbar on the left, uncheck "Show windows from all desktops"
[05:37] <adenicio> dudeicles: did u name your hdd's hdc1 etc?
[05:37] <dudeicles> yes
[05:37] <Jucato> kat: right-click on the panel -> Add Applet to Panel -> Taskbar
[05:37] <dudeicles> they mount ok
[05:37] <dudeicles> just not writeable
[05:37] <kat> I said "screw it" and just used alt/tab instead, but ah ok thanks
[05:37] <dudeicles> unless i'm root
[05:37] <soulrider> !installing
[05:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:37] <adenicio> dudeicles: so now all u want is to read and rite acces?
[05:37] <|deacon|> unfortunatly I'm unable to make Konsole use a background image...does anyone else have any ideas?
[05:37] <scienceboy> stdin: thank you!
[05:37] <dudeicles> adenicio: rite
[05:37] <dudeicles> got read
[05:38] <soulrider> !software
[05:38] <ubotu> A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[05:38] <eljefe> Combatjuan: yeah thats all i could figure out also.  thanks!
[05:38] <Combatjuan> |deacon|: Is it a specific image that doesn't work?  What steps have you tried?
[05:38] <|deacon|> I've tried numerous files..basically made a new schema with custom colors and a background image, than told the session to use that schema when I exited the settings
[05:39] <scienceboy> does anyone know why the global shortcut for 'play/pause' in amarok does not work for me?
[05:39] <|deacon|> it will use my color setting but not a file...does it have to be a .png or can it be a jpg?
[05:39] <scienceboy> i have it set to alt+p
[05:39] <Combatjuan> |deacon|: Yes, mine was a jpeg.  It was specifically: /usr/share/wallpapers/default_gears.jpg
[05:39] <adenicio> dudeicles:run  kdesu ntfs-config then enable write
[05:39] <dudeicles> k
[05:39] <|deacon|> let me try that one to see if it works
[05:39] <JakeM> Can someone help me troubleshoot some Amarok issues?
[05:40] <Jucato> scienceboy: it might be conflicting with the current active application's Alt+P? (the default is Ctrl+Alt+P btw)
[05:40] <dudeicles> no ntfs-config
[05:40] <dudeicles> adenicio: how would I install it?
[05:40] <adenicio> dudeicles: adept maneger
[05:40] <JakeM> I've gone through and installed the restricted packages, but I still can't get Amarok to play mp3, FLAC or avi files.
[05:40] <scienceboy> jucato: even if i use it at the desktop, it doesn't work. and it does work with ctrl+alt+p, its jsut that i want to do it with only two keys
[05:40] <|deacon|> I saw the picture flash up for a split second when I opened the settings
[05:40] <adenicio> dudeicles: or sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[05:41] <Combatjuan> |deacon|: Hmmm... Are you running compiz/fusion/beryl etc?
[05:41] <|deacon|> no, basic load od kubuntu
[05:41] <Jucato> scienceboy: might I suggest Win+C? So that it's just between Win+X (Play) and Win+V (stop)? :)
[05:41] <Jucato> (also easier to reach...)
[05:42] <Combatjuan> |deacon|: I'm running low on ideas.  Is it possible that you have transparency set really high or really low and some special color?
[05:42] <scienceboy> jucato: the laptop i'm on (and tryuing to configure) has a broken win key, so i can't use that
[05:42] <Jucato> oh..hm..
[05:42] <adenicio> stdin: i have no navigation bar its there but the files are white like they are corupt
[05:42] <dudeicles> that worked
[05:42] <|deacon|> I have transparency turned off in the Konsole settings
[05:43] <adenicio> stdin: i try installin back kde desktop but it didnt work
[05:43] <Jucato> scienceboy: sorry, no idea now :(
[05:43] <scienceboy> jucato: thanks anywayus
[05:43] <dudeicles> intelikey: What were you saying about writing to the ntfs drive too much?
[05:43] <|deacon|> I can see the image flash up for a second if I move in and out of full-screen mode...it's almost like the black background is overlayed on the image
[05:44] <stdin> adenicio: navigation bar?
[05:44] <adenicio> stdin: sorry navigation pannel
[05:44] <stdin> adenicio: what one?
[05:45] <dudeicles> now again what's the best dvd writing software?
[05:45] <intelikey> dudeicles the ntfs driver has been known to cause fs corruption with continued use   thus it is reccommneded that you mount ntfs as ro when using the standard ntfs driver.
[05:46] <Combatjuan> stdin: On the computer I'm trying to connect, I have installed openssh-server and vsftpd.  When I try and connect with my "client" ubuntu box, I get the error "Error encountered while talking to ssh."  (I have ssh installed on the client).  What packages do I need for sftp:// to work in konqie?
[05:46] <stdin> dudeicles: there is no "best", but K3B rules :p
[05:46] <scienceboy> what would be the fastet web browser for kubuntu?
[05:46] <adenicio> stdin: like when u open a folder to the left is the one im talkin about.it has root folder etc and where u are located
[05:46] <|deacon|> Combatjuan,  heh the weird thing is if I make a selection in the konsole screen with my mouse, the background is revealed there
[05:46] <dudeicles> will try that one
[05:46] <scienceboy> asides from lynx
[05:46] <stdin> Combatjuan: just ssh, not vsftpd
[05:47] <intelikey> dudeicles you might be able to use it many days without issue,  but i can't simply reccomend it and hope for the best.
[05:47] <Combatjuan> stdin: The ssh package provides both a daemon and the client software?
[05:47] <stdin> adenicio: try pressing F8
[05:47] <dudeicles> ok
[05:47] <Combatjuan> stdin: Both have ssh installed.
[05:47] <stdin> Combatjuan: the ssh package installs both openssh-server and client
[05:48] <intelikey> what's the "BEST" ftpd ???    :)
[05:48] <stdin> Combatjuan: try connecting in konsole, just to see if it works
[05:49] <adenicio> stdin: lol dont u mean F9?i didnt say its hidden its there but im not seing the blue files just white files that look corupt
[05:49] <rdvon_> why is this disk checker taking so long???
[05:49] <adenicio> stdin: is there a way to show u my pic i took of it on a website
[05:49] <adenicio> ?
[05:49] <rdvon_> I've been running badblocks for like 2 hours.
[05:50] <intelikey> rdvon which disk checker ?
[05:50] <intelikey> oh badblocks
[05:50] <stdin> adenicio: take a screen print and post it to http://tinyimg.us/index.php
[05:50] <rdvon_> It seems like it's looped a couple times
[05:50] <intelikey> cause it write and reads every block of the disk several times
[05:50] <rdvon_> oh..
[05:50] <intelikey> yes it loops   it makes three passes by default
[05:50] <rdvon_> and it fixes the bad blocks right? :)
[05:51] <intelikey> marks them yes
[05:51] <rdvon_> it... doesnt... fix them?
[05:51] <intelikey> they can't be fixed
[05:51] <stdin> they can't be fixed, they are bad
[05:51] <Combatjuan> stdin: Ah.  It works if I use the ip address but not the host name.  Do I need to have some kind of LAN DNS for my computers to know one another by name?
[05:51] <rdvon_> but there are workarounds, right?
[05:51] <rdvon_> :)
[05:51] <intelikey> phisically bad blocks are not repairable via software
[05:51] <adenicio> stdin: http://tinyimg.us/basic.php
[05:51] <rdvon_> yes, I know.
[05:52] <intelikey> yes they are marked as bad  and skipped/not included in the fs
[05:52] <scienceboy> is there a way to make it so that if i (special key) click something it will open one way,a nd if i jsut click it it will open another?
[05:52] <rdvon_> I meant it does something to "Fix" them.
[05:52] <adenicio> stdin: u will have to zoom to see
[05:53] <rdvon_> ok.
[05:53] <rdvon_> :)
[05:53] <stdin> Combatjuan: you *can*, but it's easier to add them to the local version of that, go to System Settings -> Network Settings -> Domain Name System (in administer mode)
[05:53] <adenicio> duckdown__: u got true?
[05:53] <rdvon_> I think it is almost finishing the third loop..
[05:53] <stdin> adenicio: I need the full url
[05:53] <Combatjuan> stdin: Thanks.
[05:53] <adenicio> stdin: http://tinyimg.us/i/jdv1188877872z.png
[05:54] <stdin> adenicio: then for some reason the icons are missing, the tabs should still work tho
[05:56] <adenicio> stdin: i tink it got install bad.i dont even see gimp.and the media is not where it sopose to be
[05:56] <intelikey> rdvon there is an old hackers trick   cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda   which writes the null char to ever speck of the disk   then running a partitioning tool and using the -c option when formatting   that will make the block testing (which the -c calls for) faster 'only one pass, and it does mark them'     but it can  on occation miss a block that is actually bad.
[05:56] <|deacon|> Combatjuan, I got it.  There was a transparency issue.  The background color was black, and was overriding my image file that I had chosen
[05:57] <Combatjuan> |deacon|: Ah.  It had to be something silly.
[05:57] <scienceboy> is there a way to make it so that if i (special key) click something it will open one way,a nd if i jsut click it it will open another?
[05:57] <|deacon|> bah... ;)  thanks for the help
[05:58] <stdin> adenicio: try reinstalling the core packages "sudo aptitude reinstall ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard kubuntu-desktop"
[05:58] <intelikey> stdin  that wont reinstall anything but the meta packages will it ?
[05:59] <adenicio> stdin: i try for the kubuntu desktop it didnt work
[05:59] <stdin> intelikey: yeah, but it will install anything they depend/recommend on incase they went missing
[05:59] <stdin> adenicio: did you use aptitude ?
[05:59] <adenicio> stdin: im going to reinstall linux because i even got prolems instaling packs
[05:59] <adenicio> stdin: no
[06:00] <stdin> adenicio: try what I said before you do a reinstall
[06:00] <Biovore> when C++ code starts looking like hebrew.. Its time for bed... night...
[06:00] <Combatjuan> scienceboy: I don't think there is a way to do that.
[06:00] <intelikey> Biovore
[06:00] <scienceboy> combatjuan: really? dang ...
[06:01] <intelikey> i think konq does that by default
[06:02] <intelikey> alt click something and see
[06:04] <intelikey> !info ntfs-3g dapper
[06:04] <ubotu> Package ntfs-3g does not exist in dapper
[06:04] <intelikey> !info fuse dapper
[06:04] <ubotu> Package fuse does not exist in dapper
[06:04] <intelikey> figures
[06:05] <stdin> intelikey: planning on upgrading to hardy when it's out?
[06:06] <adenicio> stdin: http://pastebin.com/m151057e9 i got an error to the end when i did "sudo aptitude reinstall kubuntu-desktop"
[06:06] <intelikey> stdin prolly not.  why would i ?
[06:06] <stdin> intelikey: it's the next LTS
[06:07] <intelikey> but i haven't warn out this LTS yet
[06:07] <Mr_Sonoma> lol you got 6 more months or so intelikey
[06:07] <stdin> intelikey: yeah, but you'll get some shiny new packages :p
[06:07] <intelikey> it's just over a year old  and good for 5
[06:08] <intelikey> i'll use it for 5   unless i find a linux i like
[06:08] <intelikey> :)
[06:08] <lunar-raven> !wine
[06:08] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:08] <adenicio> intelikey: wat is mandriva?
[06:09] <wers> why is that, when I opened a cd full of pictures on dolphin, the icons of most pictures have padlocks and I cannot view them on gwenview?
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, heh, you could always go with BSD
[06:09] <intelikey> adenicio used to be a pretty good distro  then they changed the name
[06:09] <stdin> adenicio: try: sudo mkdir -p /var/run/havp/ ; sudo touch /var/run/havp/havp-DZV09j ; sudo -R chown havp /var/run/havp
[06:09] <intelikey> hitmanWilly don't tempt me...
[06:09] <adenicio> intelikey: change it to what?
[06:10] <intelikey> adenicio mandriva.    it was mandrake linux
[06:10] <andrew_> anyone know where I can get some cool games for Linux?
[06:10] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:10] <stdin> !games | andrew_
[06:10] <ubotu> andrew_: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[06:10] <adenicio> intelikey: is that a nother linux like kubuntu,ubuntu,xubuntu,and fedora?
[06:11] <stdin> another distribution yeah
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, no, its another unix based system
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> oh, nm
[06:11] <intelikey> no it's more like    redhat/fedora     mandrake/mandriva
[06:11] <stdin> don't confuse him with bsd :p
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> rpm based ubuntu :P
[06:11] <adenicio> ??????
[06:12] <intelikey> !rpm
[06:12] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, just ignore that last bit, heh
[06:12] <adenicio> lol
[06:12] <kkathman> thats an incorrect factoid - RPM is RPM package management - they changed the name quite a while back
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> another recursive acronym
[06:13] <stdin> kkathman: request it to be changed then
[06:13] <intelikey> kkathman maybe it's an old factoid...
[06:13] <kkathman> could be :)
[06:13] <adenicio> how many dif linux are out there? i only know ubuntu family and fedora
[06:13] <intelikey> adenicio about a thousand
[06:14] <intelikey> visit http://distrowatch.org
[06:14] <intelikey> i think that's the url...  for the major "flavour of the month"
[06:14] <kkathman> wow its 1000 now??
[06:14] <andrew_> I'm usin' kubuntu, will ubuntu games work properly on it?
[06:14] <adenicio> intelikey: lol ok but how many are there that are to the top famouse?
[06:14] <kkathman> whew :)
[06:15] <intelikey> adenicio only room for one at the top...
[06:15] <Combatjuan> andrew_: Yes.  All "flavors" of Linux can run programs from all other "flavors".
[06:15] <stdin> andrew_: ubuntu and kubuntu are the same except for the UI
[06:15] <andrew_> cool... thanks guys......
[06:15] <intelikey> kkathman that was a rough estimate,  i don't know the "exact" count and i doubt anyone does.
[06:15] <Perseid> How do I tell KDE what program to open a partocular file in?
[06:16] <kkathman> lol true
[06:16] <adenicio> intelikey: ok give ma at least 5 to the top list
[06:16] <intelikey> adenicio debian gentoo slackware fedora suse ubuntu
[06:17] <intelikey> that's six  but oh well
[06:17] <stdin> Perseid: right click it, choose Open With, select the application and check the "remember association for this file type" box
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, well, that's most of the big ones
[06:17] <intelikey> adenicio mandriva knoppix ...
[06:18] <stdin> PCLinuxOS is doing quite well in the charts too
[06:18] <intelikey> there's two more playes ^
[06:18] <intelikey> PCLinuxOS
[06:18] <intelikey> yes
[06:18] <Perseid> stdin: I tried that. There is no 'remember' option.
[06:18] <intelikey> that's nine.   probably all in the top ten
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, gentoo's not, neither is slack, at least according to distrowatch
[06:19] <stdin> Perseid: it's on the bottom: http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3666/image12tj6.png
[06:19] <intelikey> hitmanWilly hmmm  flavour of the month changes to fast,  but the over all usage/support  they are there.
[06:20] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, yeah, plus those are seeder distros, as in there's a lot of distros based on them
[06:20] <adenicio> stdin: what u give me" sudo mkdir -p /var/run/havp/ ; sudo touch /var/run/havp/havp-DZV09j ; sudo -R chown havp /var/run/havp didnt work
[06:20] <intelikey> hitmanWilly exactly
[06:21] <Perseid> stdin: It usually is, but in this case, .flv, there is only Run in Terminal and Don't Close...
[06:21] <adenicio> stdin: im getting to many errors i cant even install a simple pack from adep or apt-get
[06:21] <intelikey> three major seeders slackware debian fedora  not in any special order
[06:22] <intelikey> gentoo would fall to fourth in that line-up   not that many source based distros
[06:22] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, yeah, but there is sabayon
[06:22] <intelikey> although it contributes to most distros..
[06:22] <hydrogen> thats not a real distro though
[06:23] <OptimusBabe> hi guys. i was wondering if you can help me. i'm having trouble playing vcds since i upgraded to feisty. everything was fine in edgy.. any ideas? appreciate any help. thanks
[06:23] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, although the gentoo base on that one is pretty loose :)
[06:23] <intelikey> true dat
[06:23] <adenicio> intelikey: what is ark?
[06:23] <hydrogen> a kde-centric distro
[06:23] <Combatjuan> ark is a program for archiving, like "winzip"
[06:23] <hydrogen> its a fairly cool distro
[06:24] <stdin> Perseid: try in konqueror, settings > configure konqueror > File Associations (like http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/7733/image13lk0.png )
[06:24] <intelikey> adenicio i'd say a B class distro   hasn't ever been number one and doesn't have much based on it.  although it has been widely used.
[06:25] <adenicio> intelikey: same for  ubuntu family?
[06:25] <intelikey> adenicio no *buntu is flavour of the month
[06:26] <intelikey> folks like you and me made it #1
[06:26] <adenicio> intelikey: they are diferent teams that make them right?but why fedora come with KDE desktop option?
[06:26] <Perseid> stdin: That did it. I had to add x-flv because it wasn't there at all. Thanks. :)
[06:26] <rdvon_> Has anyone tried using a wiimote under linux?
[06:26] <OptimusBabe> guys?
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> the main reason so many distros are slack based is that it's the closest thing to a vanilla linux set up out there right now
[06:27] <intelikey> adenicio kde and gnome are only desktop environments  any linux distro can have either or both...
[06:27] <adenicio> intelikey: flavor?lol will it at least reach to the top 5?
[06:27] <adenicio> intelikey: ok
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, ubuntu is actually based on debian
[06:29] <adenicio> hydrogen: i saw in a book debian was made by a french man and he is the leader in the linux race
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, although it has been moving further and further away from the regular debian setup
[06:29] <adenicio> hitmanWilly:   i saw in a book debian was made by a french man and he is the leader in the linux race
[06:30] <adenicio> hitmanWilly: is that true?
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, that's really a matter of opinion
[06:30] <hydrogen> heh
[06:30] <hydrogen> I think first
[06:30] <hydrogen> one would need a linux race
[06:30] <adenicio> ?
[06:31] <hitmanWilly> the good thing about linux is that any improvements made in one distro can usually be implemented in another
[06:31] <adenicio> hydrogen: sorry that msg wasnt for u
[06:31] <adenicio> lol
[06:31] <intelikey> ian and deborah the two from which the name "deb-ian" was contracted may have started the distro  but they neither own it nor write it...  so one might remember to look at the bigger picture on things like that.
[06:32] <adenicio> like fedora it gopin up all types of stuff that it takes so long to install
[06:32] <adenicio> :D
[06:33] <intelikey> what race are you in  ???   :)
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> pretty much all distros have their own advantages/disadvantages
[06:33] <intelikey> y the human race, of course.
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> for example, ubuntu is very user friendly, but you get a lot of bloat along with that
[06:34] <adenicio> intelikey:  hitmanWilly anyway tanks for the info i just want to know how to save my website that i add in bookmark?im going to reinstall feity 7.04
[06:34] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, it doesn't save it?
[06:34] <intelikey> adenicio save your home dir.
[06:35] <adenicio> hitmanWilly: its save in koqueror.but if i reinstall linux it wont be there anymore
[06:35] <intelikey> put him on a cd or something.  then you have the backup...
[06:35] <stdin> that's why we recommend a separate /home
[06:35] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, oh, ok, yeah, backup your home folder, that'll keep it
[06:36] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, plus all your settings for various apps
[06:36] <intelikey> yeah,  if you have seperate disks   or even seperate partitions...   you just don't fromat the home dir
[06:36] <intelikey> else you make a backup
[06:36] <intelikey> fi
[06:36] <intelikey> :)
[06:37] <adenicio> hitmanWilly: im not keepin no setting for apps what so ever everything going
[06:37] <adenicio> boom
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, ok, well the bookmark file is in $HOME/.kde/share/apps/konqueror
[06:38] <intelikey> find ~/ -type f -iname *bookmark*
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> its the file bookmarks.xml
[06:38] <intelikey> finds all your bookmark files
[06:39] <intelikey> email it to your self  and leave it on the server
[06:40] <stdin> intelikey only sends himself binary code
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:40] <intelikey> :)
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> XD
[06:41] <stdin> that means I can call him names and he won't know :p
[06:41] <_2> i'm base two
[06:41] <_2> don't mess with me
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:42] <_2> :)
[06:42] <stdin> ( 110000101101 being 3117 in binary )
[06:42] <DaSkreech> OptimusBabe: try reinstalling libxine-extracodecs
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> ellt?
[06:43] <stdin> yep, I'm too 1337 to spell
[06:43] <hitmanWilly> roflmao
[06:44] <_2> 111101001101001 1010011100011
[06:45] <_2> dat's where i sit
[06:45] <stdin> heh
[06:46] <holycow> what is the kde art channel again? not #oxygen, the other one
[06:47] <stdin> dunno...
[06:47] <stdin> ask in #kde and find out
[06:47] <DaSkreech> #kde-artists
[06:47] <holycow> oh there we go
[06:47] <holycow> thank you
[06:47] <DaSkreech> and #oxygen if you like flavours of the month
[06:48] <_2> have i heard that phrase before ???
[06:48] <hydrogen> yes
[06:48] <hydrogen> its my cousin
[06:48] <holycow> DaSkreech: added to autojoin
[06:48] <Mr_Sonoma> anybody else running Gutsy and having problems with switching users?
[06:48] <holycow> thanks
[06:48] <holycow> Mr_Sonoma: i just dist upgrade, i have had tons of problems
[06:48] <holycow> wait a few days and distupgrade again
[06:48] <stdin> Mr_Sonoma: #ubuntu+1 is the place to ask
[06:48] <holycow> devs are probably uploading
[06:49] <Mr_Sonoma> after i ran apt-get upgrade a few times it finally got all the packages (except for six that are being held) updated and everything smoothed out
[06:49] <Mr_Sonoma> except for the switching users thing
[06:50] <Mr_Sonoma> the 2nd user crashes on start and reverts back to the first
[06:50] <holycow> yeah just wait a few days
[06:50] <holycow> your running unstable latest and greatest
[06:50] <holycow> as you are running a developers version that will happen
[06:50] <Mr_Sonoma> yea i understand that, was just wondering if it was something that i did or if others are seeing it too
[06:50] <Mr_Sonoma> <--- been known to muck up a perfectly good ubuntu or debian install
[06:51] <holycow> as with debian, if you run development versions you haveto wait until the devs get around to upload the latest packages
[06:51] <DaSkreech> no one asked you for your 10 bits _2
[06:52] <holycow> Mr_Sonoma: *nod* well seeing similar things anyway
[06:58] <Kr4t05> Yay!
[06:58] <Kr4t05> I is a winrar!
[06:59] <Kr4t05> After several hours of cursing and longing to through it all out the nearest window, I finally got my ethernet to work.
[07:05] <Evolution2> hey guys iam trying to install this xmms skin but i have this:
[07:05] <Evolution2> roy@roy-laptop:~$ cd Vortigo_final
[07:05] <Evolution2> roy@roy-laptop:~/Vortigo_final$ ./configure
[07:05] <Evolution2> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[07:05] <stdin> !paste | Evolution2
[07:05] <ubotu> Evolution2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:05] <Evolution2> thanks
[07:05] <Evolution2> my bad
[07:06] <Evolution2> any ideas why iam getting that at the config
[07:06] <dal> hey all, im playing around with ksysguard and its related kicker applet - I figured there'd be a way of getting it to spit out free space on a certain partiton in Gb/Mb/Kb but all it seems to want to do is give me a value in blocks, which doesn't seem to have any direct correlation to human-readable units of measurement - i.e. 200mb of free space is 293,310 blocks - anyhow know how i can get it to give me Gb or Mb instead? :)
[07:06] <stdin> Evolution2: why are you trying to run a ./configure script for a skin?
[07:06] <Evolution2> yeah, thats what i thought but i wasnt sure
[07:06] <Evolution2> what do i do
[07:07] <stdin> I'd guess yo just copy it to something like ~/.xmms/skins/
[07:08] <Evolution2> ok
[07:24] <rdvon_> omg!
[07:24] <rdvon_> who was here when I asked about the bad blocks thing.
[07:25] <rdvon_> well guess what.
[07:25] <rdvon_> Pass completed, 0 bad blocks found
[07:25] <rdvon_> >:O
[07:25] <rdvon_> wow.
[07:25] <rdvon_> that was the biggest waste of time.
[07:26] <rdvon_> ...
[07:27] <sumguy231> ...
[07:35] <rdvon_> do you guys know why a disk check would reformat my hard drive?
[07:35] <rdvon_> Because my hard drive is completely reformatted.
[07:35] <rdvon_> I need your help guys. -_-
[07:36] <flaccidd> it doesn't have the ability to
[07:36] <flaccidd> afaik
[07:37] <rdvon_> than what happened?
[07:37] <rdvon_> I tried booting into windows. it gave me a disk boot failure.
[07:37] <rdvon_> an I check my partitions, there all gone.
[07:37] <rdvon_> *and
[07:37] <rdvon_> *check
[07:37] <rdvon_> *checked.
[07:37] <DaSkreech> rdvon_: bad drive?
[07:38] <rdvon_> DaSkreech: it was running perfectly before I checked for bad sectors..
[07:38] <Lynoure> sounds like that... damage to partition table
[07:39] <rdvon_> Well I'm going to install kubuntu now, no since in getting pissed off at what already happened, right?
[07:39] <tzanger> good mroning...  is there something obvious I am missing in order to get the dictionary/spell check working with open-office?  I'm using feisty with the standard packages... OO claims it has dictionaries but I can spell anything any old way and it won't complain, even with a manual spell check
[07:42] <DaSkreech> I remember having that problem
[07:42] <DaSkreech> I think I did solve it but that was shortly before i got rid of OO.o :-(
[07:43] <DaSkreech> http://www.thelinuxvault.net/wiki/Kubuntu
[07:43] <hayami> hi i have a problem, i'm using compiz fusion, but with the window decorator GTK, it gaves me a border like light purple, i wanna change it but i don't know how what should i do?
[07:43] <hayami> can anyone help me please :(
[07:44] <stdin> hayami: try in #ubuntu-effects
[07:44] <Lynoure> hayami: GTK? probably better on #ubuntu than on #kubuntu
[07:45] <hayami> is that from ubuntu?
[07:45] <hayami> i'm using kubuntu xD why i have that installed xD
[07:45] <_2> *buntu is *buntu is *buntu
[07:46] <Lynoure> _2: I was pretty sure GTK themes were Gnome stuff
[07:46] <Lynoure> still am, even.
[07:47] <hayami> wow weird
[07:47] <_2> Lynoure yes gnome uses gtk  and ?
[07:47] <hayami> then what is the theme manager in kde?
[07:48] <_2> Lynoure last i checked !beryl wasn't officially supported in #kubuntu or #ubuntu
[07:48] <Jucato> hayami: since you are using compiz with the default (GTK/GNOME) window decoration, KWin (KDE's window manager) window decorations won't affect compiz's appearance
[07:49] <Lynoure> _2: !beryl was not supported? only beryl was? that sounds wrong...
[07:49] <Lynoure> _2: meaning, I don't understand your notation
[07:49] <_2> !beryl
[07:49] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:49] <Jucato> _2: that was before compiz moved to main, and before beryl and compiz re-merged
[07:50] <_2> Jucato then the bot is behind too
[07:50] <hayami> weird i choose in the compiz options
[07:50] <hayami> window manager kwin
[07:50] <hayami> but now i can't use the cube or things like that xD
[07:50] <Jucato> hayami: that means you're not running compiz. you can only use one window manager at a time
[07:51] <hayami> =o so how do i run compiz then? =o
[07:51] <Jucato> both compiz and kwin are window managers. if you use kwin, you're not using compiz, meaning no effects
[07:51] <Jucato> dunno. never used it hehehe
[07:53] <hayami> thanks i guess xD
[07:53] <lordofthepigs> Hello
[07:53] <lordofthepigs> where can I define new environment variables
[07:53] <Jucato> try asking in #ubuntu-effects for that hayami
[07:53] <lordofthepigs> I need to add a few environment variable
[07:54] <hayami> thanks jucato
[07:54] <lordofthepigs> and append a directory to the path
[07:54] <Jucato> lordofthepigs: usually .bashrc but I'm not exactly sure what's the difference between .bashrc and .bash_profile
[07:54] <hayami> i wierdly can see the other window i wanted xD
[07:54] <Jucato> and those are per-user settings only
[07:54] <Jucato> ok..
[07:55] <zhaobaoyu> hiAny person will help me on "how to open a pdf doc in text mode" ?
[07:55] <_2> ERROR [09/04/2007 05:54:39]  > Could not set video mode: No video mode large enough for 1024x768
[07:55] <_2> Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
[07:55] <zhaobaoyu> hiAny person will help me on "how to open a pdf doc in text mode" ?
[07:55] <Jucato> !patience | zhaobaoyu
[07:55] <Jucato> hm.. bot's down?
[07:56] <_2> stupid code monkeys set static sizes  and make things to small to see....
[07:56] <ubotu> zhaobaoyu: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:56] <Jucato> zhaobaoyu: you can do that a bit in kword... but I'm not sure it's 100% reliable. there might be PDF editors out there...
[07:56] <DaSkreech> Jucato: ^A -> Del
[07:56] <zhaobaoyu> thanks you jucato and ubotu
[07:57] <Jucato> !thanks | zhaobaoyu
[07:57] <ubotu> zhaobaoyu: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[07:57] <Jucato> DaSkreech: huh?
[07:57] <zhaobaoyu> ....ah... jucato is bot too  ?
[07:57] <Jucato> try to guess.. :)
[07:58] <Jucato> and if you guessed wrong...
[07:58] <_2> zhaobaoyu only on the second tuesday of each week
[07:58] <Jucato> *buzzing sound* wrong answer! bye now! :P
[07:58] <zhaobaoyu> wondering...
[07:58] <stdin> Jucato is a bot, but he has super cow powers
[07:58] <DaSkreech> Jucato: take care of your e-mail problem
[07:58] <Jucato> DaSkreech: aaah... you silly
[07:59] <lordofthepigs> Do I have to login again for the changes to .bash_profile to be applied
[07:59] <zhaobaoyu> so many humor guys
[07:59] <Jucato> DaSkreech: I just went through the excruciating process of waiting for gutsy's kdepim to get fixed, downloading my mail again and again, filtering through and putting them in the correct folders, now you want me to delete them all!?!?
[07:59] <_2> lordofthepigs no   . ~/.bash_profile   will load them
[07:59] <Jucato> lordofthepigs: I think so... might want to ask the guys over at ##bash for more info
[07:59] <Jucato> <--- bash idiot
[08:00] <DaSkreech> lordofthepigs: yes
[08:00] <DaSkreech> hi AmyRose
[08:00] <_2> seems no one is listening
[08:01] <intelikey> lordofthepigs no   . ~/.bash_profile   will load them
[08:01] <AmyRose> hi DaSkreech
[08:01] <Jucato> intelikey: that's what you get for having so many aliases...
[08:01] <Jucato> hi AmyRose (in here too)
[08:01] <intelikey> maybe my nick was too short to take seriously
[08:01] <DaSkreech> intelikey:  :-)
[08:01] <DaSkreech> intelikey: it had binary chars!
[08:01] <intelikey> yeah  :)
[08:05] <albertmk> good compiler for java in Kubuntu?
[08:06] <Jucato> gcj? (part of GCC)
[08:06] <stdin> or just install the sun jdk
[08:07] <level1> hi, how does ubuntu set the default keymap?  the kde keymap thing doesn't work well for me and X somehow magically forgot my keymap
[08:09] <lusr> hi
[08:09] <hengha`> is there anyway to auto mount a usb disk in kubuntu 7.04 ? it works fine in my fc5
[08:09] <lusr> how do I upgrade to 7?
[08:09] <lusr> I am on 6
[08:09] <DaSkreech> !upgrade
[08:09] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[08:09] <lusr> sheesh... I thought the damn CD was 7
[08:09] <albertmk> *about to learn Java
[08:09] <DaSkreech> !java
[08:09] <albertmk> ops hehe
[08:09] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[08:10] <albertmk> damn
[08:10] <albertmk> Im installing it by apt-get
[08:10] <albertmk> Im running Kubuntu 7.04
[08:10] <DaSkreech> albertmk: That's what it's saying :)
[08:11] <albertmk> its still downloading it
[08:11] <albertmk> should I stop it ?
[08:12] <runlevelten> If you want to stop it installing, then yes you should.
[08:12] <runlevelten> However, if you meant to get it doing stuff, no.
[08:13] <albertmk> but I am using apt, not Adept. Am I wrong?
[08:13] <DaSkreech> albertmk: you are on the command line?
[08:13] <albertmk> both get from sourcelist?
[08:13] <stdin> albertmk: read it again, apt-get is fine
[08:13] <Jucato> nothing wrong...
[08:13] <DaSkreech> albertmk: No use apt
[08:13] <albertmk> oh :)
[08:13] <runlevelten> apt is just peachy.
[08:13] <albertmk> though both downloaded it from soucelist
[08:13] <DaSkreech> http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/08/31/sco-chief-were-not-dead
[08:13] <DaSkreech> Ha ha
[08:14] <DaSkreech> The stock went up 44 percent
[08:14] <runlevelten> rofl.
[08:14] <runlevelten> !sco
[08:14] <ubotu> Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha!!!!!
[08:14] <DaSkreech> ha ha ha ha
[08:14] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind!!!!
[08:14] <Jucato> Hawkwind!!!!!!!!
[08:14] <lusr> !christ
[08:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about christ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:15] <lusr> !jesus
[08:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jesus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:15] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:15] <Hawkwind> Jucato!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:15] <DaSkreech> !botabuse > lusr
[08:15] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: where the heck where you?
[08:15] <lusr> !ok > DaSkreech
[08:15] <stdin> stop that ^
[08:15] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Been at home and at work
[08:16] <DaSkreech> I was just mourning the death of ebuntu :)
[08:16] <DaSkreech> I was starting to think there was a Mysterious Force killing off anyone interested in it
[08:17] <lusr> can I abuse and rape the bot in private?
[08:17] <lusr> how do I do that?
[08:17] <lusr> I mean in order to no be annoying here
[08:17] <DaSkreech> lusr: type /msg ubotu hello
[08:17] <lusr> flooding and all
[08:17] <Jucato> lusr: don't even dare
[08:17] <Jucato> !guidelines | lusr
[08:17] <ubotu> lusr: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:18] <DaSkreech> Jucato: he shouldn't talk to the bot in private?
[08:18] <lusr> ok got it
[08:18] <lusr> I think that's better
[08:19] <lusr> because ONE I am not flooding here SECOND what I want to check isn't scrolled all the way up by all messages
[08:19] <lusr> is 500MHz ok for Kubuntu?
[08:20] <Jucato> AmyRose: your testimonial needed ^^^
[08:20] <DaSkreech> lusr: In theory yes
[08:20] <DaSkreech>  don't expect it to be a spring chicken
[08:21] <lusr> LMAO@spring chicken
[08:21] <lusr> DaSkreech: I have it with Xubuntu now, but I am thinking about using Fluxbuntu
[08:22] <lusr> by the way is there such a channel?
[08:22] <DaSkreech> #fluxbuntu
[08:22] <DaSkreech> they are a little off the wall though
[08:22] <DaSkreech> last time I was talking to them they were going to rewrite everything to work better on the PS3
[08:23] <lusr> kewl!
[08:23] <DaSkreech> Which would actually garner them a huge amount of press but ...
[08:23] <lusr> pfff... how retarded PS3 is powerful enough to run EVEN Vi$ta
[08:24] <lusr> I'd rather be more concerned of re-writing fluxbuntu to run on a router
[08:25] <holycow> well that depends
[08:25] <holycow> ps3 i don't think has a very good graphics chip nor a lot of ram
[08:25] <holycow> all of the work is supposed to be done on the cel
[08:25] <holycow> so you kinda gotta code up stuff for that
[08:25] <DaSkreech> and a crap ass main chip if you are not using the SPU
[08:25] <holycow> yup
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Though Half Life 2 apparently isn't touching the SPUs at all
[08:26] <holycow> i would imagine the cel processor simply changes the way stuff is done, i really don't know anything to be able to say more than that
[08:27] <holycow> if the cel
[08:27] <holycow> if the cels are doing most of the workload and they have properly coded for that, one would imagine that a ps4 can be just a ps3 with a ginormous number of more cels
[08:27] <DaSkreech> It's like having a 8 core proc
[08:27] <holycow> just a guess
[08:28] <lusr> wasn't there be a company supposed to sell cell pc
[08:28] <lusr> pc's
[08:28] <lusr> ?
[08:28] <DaSkreech> 7 of which are really dumb but do anything you tell them to do Amazingly fast
[08:28] <DaSkreech> IBM
[08:28] <DaSkreech> they do
[08:29] <DaSkreech> but it's way cheaper to just buy PS3s :)
[08:29] <holycow> yeah ibm servers of some kind, haven't seen them anywhere tho
[08:29] <holycow> probabaly special purpose
[08:30] <lusr> I mean for regular users
[08:30] <DaSkreech> Most stuff cell related is special use
[08:30] <lusr> you know home cell PC's
[08:30] <lusr> I recall reading something about it
[08:31] <lusr> would be kewl
[08:31] <holycow> heh
[08:31] <Jucato> !offtopic
[08:31] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:31] <holycow> thats gonna behard to peel off
[08:31] <Jucato> oh bah, stdin was there
[08:31] <stdin> Jucato: gotta spice it up every now and then :p
[08:32] <DaSkreech> lusr: head to #fluxbuntu
[08:32] <DaSkreech> let me know if anyone is awake
[08:32] <lusr> how do I check what Version of *ubuntu I have? uname -a doesn't tell me
[08:33] <stdin> !version
[08:33] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[08:33] <DaSkreech> cat /etc/issue
[08:33] <DaSkreech> damn I always forget that way
[08:33] <lusr> oh man!!
[08:33] <lusr> I've gotta first to to 6.10 then 7!!
[08:34] <lusr> jesus christ!!
[08:34] <Jucato> ...
[08:34] <stdin> there is no "7", there is a 7.04 (and soon a 7.10)
[08:35] <lusr> 7.10 hot!!
[08:37] <intelikey> techneclly there is no 7.10 yet
[08:37] <lusr> what's new in 7.10?
[08:37] <DaSkreech> !gutsy
[08:37] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[08:37] <Jucato> s/technically/officially/
[08:38] <intelikey> don't sed me.
[08:38] <Jucato> :P
[08:38] <intelikey> techneclly there is no 7.10 yet   this is only 7.9 so it's impossable for 7.10 to be out...
[08:39] <intelikey> it is yeah.month you know
[08:39] <stdin> hence the "(and soon a 7.10)" as "soon" != "now"
[08:40] <intelikey> righto
[08:40] <lusr> is gnash in a workable shape?
[08:40] <stdin> it works for some things, so yeah
[08:40] <lusr> *usable
[08:40] <lusr> stdin: how about youtube?
[08:40] <stdin> I doubt it
[08:41] <lusr> if it doesn't work with youtube is basically worthless
[08:41] <stdin> it can only do up to flash 7 IIRC
[08:43] <lunang> salut  tous
[08:49] <osh_> Anyone know why vmware-server isn't in the repos? vmware-player is, but not server. Both are "free" as far as I know.
[08:51] <stdin> osh_: because the licence the server is under doesn't allow redistribution (so it can't be put in the repos)
[08:51] <karthikp> Question: Is there anyway of restarting kmix?
[08:51] <karthikp> I plug in my webcam/mic and it doesn't detect it unless I log out and log back in or do a Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.
[08:52] <karthikp> It would be nice if I could somehow restart just kmix.
[08:52] <Crosswing> hello
[08:52] <stdin> karthikp: right click kmix and choose quit, then press alt-f2 and put in kmix
[08:53] <Crosswing> I am running Kubuntu 7.04 and I am using GAIM as IM client for one of my yahoo accounts. Any ideas why sound doesn't work? :(
[08:53] <osh_> stdin: Really? That's bad. So it's off to howtoforge or similar and do a "non-removable" install then. *sigh*
[08:53] <osh_> stdin: Thanks for your answer though.
[08:53] <stdin> osh_:  there are install instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[08:53] <karthikp> Does gaim have a working voice chat?
[08:53] <osh_> stdin: Brilliant. Thanks again.
[08:53] <stdin> :)
[08:54] <karthikp> Didn't know it had...
[08:55] <jussi01> hmmm, anyone know where to set kmail to check the mail on a regular baisis? ie. every 10 mins or so?
[08:55] <karthikp> Yay! stdin: You solved it!
[08:55] <karthikp> Killing kmix doesn't kill sound.
[08:55] <Jucato> jussi01: Settings -> COnfigure KMail -> Accounts -> Sending tab -> MOdify -> Enable interval fetching
[08:56] <karthikp> Which is nice.
[08:56] <Jucato> er.. interval mail checking I mean
[08:56] <Jucato> karthikp: kmix is just the mixer/volume control... :)
[08:57] <karthikp> @Jucato: Learning something new everyday :)
[08:57] <jussi01> Jucato: thanks, got it sorted (but its not the sending tab ;) )
[08:57] <jussi01> :)
[08:57] <Jucato> er sorry
[08:58] <Jucato> I was typing really fast and from memory
[08:58] <Jucato> yeah Receiving...
[08:58] <jussi01> hehe
[08:58] <karthikp> Still, anyway to make it remember to have the mic turned all the way up?
[08:58] <jussi01> e
[08:58] <karthikp> By default, kmix always starts with no mic volume
[08:58] <Jucato> too hot today :)
[09:01] <Jucato> how are you able to type then? O.o
[09:02] <karthikp> *karthikp wakes jussi01 up. Stay sharp, men! (and women!)
[09:03] <jussi01> lol
[09:06] <kraut> moin
[09:19] <osh_> stdin: Your link was better than expected. vmware-server is packaged for kubuntu and installation-instructions were right there.
[09:20] <osh_> This is wonderful. now I can keep my beloved kubuntu while still running Office2007 and MS-Project.
[09:20] <osh_> =)
[09:20] <stdin> osh_: where there's a will, there's an ubuntu way :p
[09:23] <hayami> hi, how do i upgrade to kde4?
[09:24] <flaccidd> !kde4
[09:24] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at <http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule>. Beta 1 packages can be found at <http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php>.
[09:25] <stdin> hayami: also read the topic...
[09:25] <Jucato> hayami: unless you're a developer or you want to help in development by testing and reporting and fixing bugs... might want to wait until final release or at least until RC
[09:25] <hayami> thanks
[09:25] <Jucato> other than that, "use at your own risk" :)
[09:25] <hayami> yeah i guess that's a good point xD
[09:25] <Jucato> or enjoyment...
[09:25] <stdin> it's more "use at your own.... damn! it crashed"
[09:26] <Jucato> or.. "use at... what the?! what happened?!?!"
[09:26] <hayami> hahaha
[09:26] <hayami> use at...where's my desktop?
[09:27] <hayami> or something like that :P
[09:27] <Jucato> (though there's really no "desktop"...)
[09:27] <hayami> xD
[09:34] <nizzle__> for some reason F1 / Help is not working in Evolution Email?
[09:44] <andrew_> can anyone tell me how to restore the original kubuntu theme?
[09:44] <andrew_> anyone?
[09:45] <jussi01> andrew_: go to system settings -> apearance and change it back.....
[09:45] <jussi01> or alt+f2 - kcontrol
[09:47] <naxa> hi...
[09:47] <naxa> can you help me?
[09:49] <jussi01> !ask | naxa
[09:49] <ubotu> naxa: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:49] <andrew_> which one is the dafault theme?
[09:49] <jussi01> polyester IIRC
[09:50] <andrew_> I donn't see that one...
[09:50] <andrew_> seems like I gotto download it....
[09:50] <stdin> you mean plastic ?
[09:51] <andrew_> oh... I see plastik..
[09:53] <naxa> Q1) I'm installing kubuntu 704 to /dev/sda3. I told to the installer to install grub into /dev/sda3. will this be okay?
[09:53] <naxa> Q2) My system won't boot /dev/sda3, it will boot /dev/hda instead. Can I manually add a grub to /dev/hda?
[09:54] <naxa> (I've a windows xp on /dev/hda2 and want it to work afterwards:))
[10:11] <Andr00> hi ppl
[10:14] <voln_> hello, is it possible transfer recycle bin to desktop?
[10:16] <stdin> voln_: transfer ?
[10:16] <voln_> i mean move
[10:16] <stdin> voln_: you want to put an icon on the desktop for it?
[10:17] <voln_> stdin what is command?
[10:17] <stdin> voln_: right click the desktop, choose Create New -> Link to Location and put the URL as trash:/
[10:19] <voln_> stdin what is url as trash?
[10:20] <stdin> voln_: in the window the pops up, put a name you want and the link location as: trash:/
[10:21] <voln_> stdin thanks
[10:24] <eguzkia> c'e un sistema per aggiornarsi da edgy a festy?
[10:24] <stdin> !es
[10:24] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:25] <eguzkia> ho provato con update-manager ma creo che sia solo per kde
[10:25] <eguzkia> ho provato con update-manager ma creo che sia solo per gnome
[10:25] <stdin> !it
[10:25] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:31] <ch40s> where can i look at running processes?
[10:32] <flaccid> ch40s: ksysguard or top or ps
[10:32] <ch40s> ty
[10:32] <flaccid> np
[10:32] <flaccid> !info htop
[10:32] <ubotu> htop: interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.3-1 (feisty), package size 43 kB, installed size 172 kB
[10:32] <flaccid> people like that too
[10:33] <rdvon> I cant get kxdock to work.
[10:33] <ch40s> ksysguard worked fine
[10:33] <rdvon> does anyone know any other good docks? besides kooldock
[10:33] <ch40s> needed to kill hl2.exe
[10:34] <jonathant> is there a command that shows all the users on a computer?
[10:34] <flaccid> ch40s: use top and press k to kill
[10:34] <flaccid> jonathant: cat /etc/passwd
[10:34] <voln_> stdin i put link as trash:/, says /home/voln/Desktop/trash:%2f.desktop' nave incorrect format
[10:34] <rdvon> good docks for kde!
[10:35] <jonathant> flaccid, is there one just to show 'people' profiles
[10:35] <jonathant> so not the system ones
[10:36] <stdin> voln_: change the name to something else
[10:36] <voln_> same thing
[10:38] <jonathant> ???
[10:38] <stdin> voln_: remove that file then open kate, put this in there http://stdin.pastebin.us/39372  and save it as "/home/volin/Desktop/trash.desktop"
[10:38] <flaccid> jonathant: maybe awk -F: '{if ($3>=500 && $3<=1000) print $1}' /etc/passwd
[10:38] <voln_> stdin ok
[10:39] <jonathant> that just shows me
[10:39] <jonathant> done
[10:39] <jonathant> just changed the <=1000 to 1003
[10:39] <jonathant> thx
[10:40] <flaccid> ok
[10:40] <flaccid> you could probably find a perl script that does the logic by group names
[10:40] <flaccid> and other properties
[10:42] <_4strO> hi all
[10:42] <flaccid> hi
[10:42] <jussi01> rdvon: what do you want from your dock
[10:42] <jussi01> ?
[10:44] <rdvon> jussi01: just a nice mac osx dock
[10:44] <rdvon> *style
[10:44] <jussi01> rdvon: do you just need launchers?
[10:45] <emilsedgh> rdvon: try kxdocker, os KSmoothDock, or Kooldock, kxdocker is the most feature rich Dock in KDE, (AFAIK)
[10:45] <emilsedgh> s/os/or
[10:45] <rdvon> emilsedgh it gives me a bug.
[10:46] <rdvon> no configuration file or something...
[10:46] <rdvon> I dont know how to fix it.
[10:46] <emilsedgh> rdvon: so try ksmooth dock, and please file a bug report for kxdocker :)
[10:46] <rdvon> emilsedgh: it's already been filed, by alot of people in fact :P
[10:46] <rdvon> and ksmooth dock isn't as good, buggy also ;P
[10:47] <rdvon> I guess I could just use your launcher jussi.
[10:47] <emilsedgh> rdvon: oh, so try reading their comments...most of the times you will find solution in them
[10:48] <jussi01> rdvon: here is what my panel dock looks like: http://www.box.net/shared/i1363oeit6
[10:48] <Merenwen> guys i amnew to irc... can somebody direct me to ubuntu room
[10:48] <jussi01> #ubuntu
[10:48] <Merenwen> its kinda embarassing to say .. but i am lost
[10:48] <rdvon> looks nice jussi01
[10:48] <Merenwen> thanks
[10:49] <rdvon> http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s70/rdvon/snapshot2.png this is what my desktop looks like :P
[10:49] <rdvon> where do i dl your dock?
[10:50] <jussi01> rdvon: you dont.
[10:50] <flaccid> !adeptfix | flaccid
[10:50] <jussi01> just do this:
[10:50] <rdvon> oh, so you just used the kicker?
[10:50] <jussi01> right click on the panel - then add new panel
[10:50] <jussi01> and add a panel.
[10:50] <jussi01> its very simple
[10:51] <jussi01> you make it auto hide, and autosize
[10:51] <rdvon> it's stuck on the side.
[10:51] <rdvon> I cant move it!
[10:51] <rdvon> :O
[10:51] <jussi01> did you add panel? or that stupid dock thing listed?
[10:52] <rdvon> stupid dock thing... :)
[10:52] <jussi01> hehe, just add a normal panel
[10:53] <jussi01> you need to restart x before you can change the prefs for the new panel...
[10:53] <rdvon> er...
[10:53] <rdvon> I'm already messingwith it :P
[10:53] <jussi01> really?
[10:53] <rdvon> yeah.
[10:53] <rdvon> can I get rid of the arrow?
[10:53] <jussi01> you sure you are messing with the bottom panel? not the top one?
[10:53] <jussi01> yes
[10:53] <rdvon> yeah im sure.
[10:54] <jonathant> how do i make SU define a variable and let a normal reader use that variable later? (in a script)
[10:54] <jussi01> rdvon: the arrows can be removed under the hiding tab
[10:54] <rdvon> ok
[10:55] <rdvon> I like the two arrow thing :)
[10:55] <jussi01> ok :)
[10:56] <jussi01> I love it this way, it _never_ crash's
[10:56] <rdvon> your right :P
[10:57] <RivaeAerya> Hi there. I've just downloaded Mac OS X fonts, and i set them up, but they don't look smooth to me.. they look square. How can i fix this?
[10:59] <jussi01> rdvon: when you are done, show me a screenie!
[11:01] <guille> Hello
[11:01] <guille> i need help
[11:01] <jussi01> !ask | guille
[11:01] <ubotu> guille: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:01] <guille> how so i install java runtime enviroment?
[11:01] <stdin> !java
[11:01] <flaccid> !java > guille
[11:02] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[11:02] <jussi01> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[11:02] <jussi01> hmmm... that factoid need updating...
[11:03] <RivaeAerya> I've just downloaded Mac OS X fonts, and i set them up, but they don't look smooth to me.. they look square. How can i fix this?
[11:03] <jussi01> !repeat | RivaeAerya
[11:03] <ubotu> RivaeAerya: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:04] <RivaeAerya> alright, thanks :)
[11:09] <guille> hi, i did as you told me but the questin to install Java runtime enviroment keeps coming on mozzila browser
[11:10] <stdin> guille: you need to install the plugin too "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin"
[11:11] <guille> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre  <---- is that the same?
[11:11] <guille> cos i did install that
[11:11] <stdin> guille: no
[11:12] <jussi01> guille: you need both
[11:13] <cevizuser> kimse yok mu
[11:13] <flaccid> and you probably need to update alternatives
[11:13] <jussi01> that also
[11:13] <guille> that didnt  wrong
[11:13] <misafirim-ben> ?
[11:13] <guille> that didnt work
[11:13] <guille> i isntalled sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[11:13] <jussi01> misafirim-ben: do you speak english?
[11:13] <guille> and sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin-jre
[11:13] <misafirim-ben> liter
[11:14] <guille> what language do you speak? i might help you
[11:14] <jussi01> what is you language misafirim-ben
[11:14] <stdin> !tr
[11:14] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[11:14] <misafirim-ben> yes tr
[11:15] <guille> well i am trying to play cards, but mozzila keeps asking me to install Java Runtime enviroment
[11:15] <jussi01> guille: hang on a sec.
[11:15] <guille> it wroking now
[11:15] <jussi01> ok :)
[11:16] <misafirim-ben> bye ;)
[11:16] <misafirim-ben> :D
[11:26] <lusr> hi
[11:26] <lusr> how do I save YouTube?
[11:29] <[ifr0g] > lusr, kissyoutube.com
[11:30] <lusr> ifr0g I mean with a program in linux
[11:32] <stdin> find youtube | lusr
[11:32] <stdin> !find youtube | lusr
[11:32] <ubotu> lusr: Found: youtube-dl
[11:33] <flaccid> !info youtube-dl
[11:33] <ubotu> youtube-dl: download videos from youtube.com. In component universe, is extra. Version 2007.01.19-1 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 64 kB
[11:33] <lusr> which one is better?
[11:33] <flaccid> there is only 1. install the package youtube-dl
[11:33] <lusr> hot
[11:34] <stdin> cold
[11:34] <flaccid> warm
[11:34] <Jucato> stop
[11:34] <Jucato> :)
[11:34] <flaccid> sart
[11:34] <flaccid> its a start
[11:35] <jussi01> fart
[11:36] <jussi01> ok, I admit, that was really immature....
[11:36] <flaccid> that wasnt very smart
[11:36] <lusr> OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:36] <Jucato> and we should really stop. I mean it this time...
[11:36] <Jucato> !caps | lusr
[11:36] <lusr> upgrading from 6 yo 6.10 FIVE HOURS!!!
[11:36] <ubotu> lusr: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:36] <stdin> if [ "$(users)" = "breaks rules" ]  ; then REASON="Jucato is boss" kick users ; fi ;)
[11:37] <voic1> ?
[11:37] <jussi01> lol
[11:37] <Jucato> I'm not good with bash. I'm not intelikey
[11:37] <flaccid> hmm, can i have that in ruby now please
[11:37] <voic1> am i still here?
[11:37] <voic1> kick voicu pls
[11:37] <jussi01> voic1: yes
[11:37] <Jucato> voic1: must be your ghost
[11:37] <lusr> faster to burn 7.04 and start from scratch
[11:38] <jussi01> voic1: do: /ns ghost voicu yourpasswordhere
[11:39] <voic1> jussi01: doesn
[11:39] <voic1> 't work
[11:39] <jussi01> voic1: give it a momnet
[11:40] <voic1> no, it says unknown command
[11:40] <Jucato> voic1: /msg Nickserv ghost voicu <voicu's password"
[11:40] <voic1> oh, that
[11:40] <Jucato> er.. forget the stray < and " there...
[11:40] <voic1> wee
[11:40] <jussi01> Jucato: doesnt /ns do the samething?
[11:40] <Jucato> not on all servers I think
[11:40] <Jucato> but should, I think...
[11:41] <jussi01> it works on freenode for me...
[11:41] <jussi01> wb voicu
[11:41] <jussi01> lol
[11:41] <voicu> thanks :D
[11:41] <Jucato> wb voic1
[11:42] <voicu> that part of me is dead, don't talk about it anymore :P
[11:42] <Jucato> until a few moments ago, you were a ghost. :)
[11:42] <jussi01> lol
[11:43] <voicu> now... does anyone know how could i make a program that reads all the keystrokes and passes them forward to whichever other program uses the keyboard. something like a keylogger just that it will have a different purpose
[11:45] <voicu> i don't want someone to make me the whole program just tell me where could i start
[11:47] <flaccid> this is kubuntu support channel
[11:47] <Jucato> voicu: I only know of an X utility that sort of returns what key/button was pressed. That's be "xev". beyond that, no idea
[11:48] <voicu> i want to use it on kubuntu, i thought that it's the best place since maybe on other oses i would have to use a different approach
[11:49] <voicu> didn't want to go offtopic
[11:55] <tim> whats this about?
[11:55] <tim> keygrabber program?
[11:55] <tim> what language?
[11:55] <tim> oh he's gone...
[11:56] <tim> nice thing about OSS is that if you want to know how to do something you can just pull the source of a program that does something similar...
[11:58] <guille> hi, at my university they use linux, but in the comand line window you can writte win, and it starts windows in a little window
[11:58] <guille> i would like to do that in my pc, anybody knows how?
[11:59] <stdin> they probably made a script that calls vmware (or similar)
[12:02] <guille> could I do such thing?
[12:02] <bonaldo2000> isnt compiz included in kubuntu as it is in ubuntu?
[12:02] <bonaldo2000> (I mean in ubuntu it can be activated via the control panel - is this not possible in kubuntu?)
[12:03] <stdin> guille: you'd have to install vmware, set up the virtual machine with windows and make a script that calls something like "vmware /home/you/vmware/windows.vmx"
[12:03] <stdin> bonaldo2000: nope
[12:03] <guille> oh that sound like sending a satelite
[12:03] <bonaldo2000> stdin: ok...do you have a link for a good guide to use in order to install it? (and is it worth it?)
[12:04] <stdin> bonaldo2000: go for compiz fusion, it works better on kubuntu than plain compiz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[12:05] <bonaldo2000> stdin: ok, thanks :-)
[12:06] <Ankthepot> stdin: i'm using another distro and i'm just making the installation disk for kubuntu
[12:06] <Ankthepot> compiz fusion has some issiues with some specific websites and programs
[12:06] <Ankthepot> is that fikex in kubuntu?
[12:06] <bonaldo2000> Ankthepot: ok, what issues?
[12:07] <stdin> depends on the version they use and what distro specific patches they use etc
[12:07] <Ankthepot> bonaldo2000: a complete black window until i resize it
[12:10] <bonaldo2000> I get this error when I run "sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-kde": compiz-kde: Depends: libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig but it is not installable
[12:11] <bonaldo2000> what is wrong?
[12:12] <DUKiSA> hi anobady here
[12:12] <DUKiSA> ?
[12:12] <DUKiSA> to help me
[12:12] <DUKiSA> ?
[12:12] <DUKiSA> i have big problem..
[12:12] <DUKiSA> ??
[12:12] <flaccid> what
[12:13] <DUKiSA> when i start kubuntu it say eror 21
[12:13] <DUKiSA> ?
[12:13] <flaccid> did you google
[12:13] <DUKiSA> yes..
[12:13] <DUKiSA> and nothing..
[12:13] <DUKiSA> i try what did they say.. and nothing
[12:13] <flaccid> http://www.google.com/search?q=grub+error+21+ubuntu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[12:13] <flaccid> lots there
[12:14] <flaccid> also http://www.mepis.org/node/7330
[12:14] <DUKiSA> tnx..
[12:14] <flaccid> 21 : Selected disk does not exist. This error is returned if the device part of a device- or full file name refers to a disk or BIOS device that is not present or not recognized by the BIOS in the system.
[12:18] <DUKiSA> flaccid: can pvt ?
[12:19] <flaccid> negative
[12:19] <flaccid> no point
[12:19] <DUKiSA> hm chk this
[12:19] <DUKiSA> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-grub/2004-07/msg00113.html
[12:19] <DUKiSA> when i click setup (hd0)
[12:19] <DUKiSA> it say
[12:20] <DUKiSA> grub> setup (hd0)
[12:20] <DUKiSA> Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[12:20] <flaccid> do you know what hd0 means?
[12:21] <DUKiSA> no ?
[12:21] <flaccid> there is your problem
[12:21] <DUKiSA> hmz can you help me ?
[12:21] <flaccid> is there anything on the disk you need?
[12:21] <DUKiSA> yes
[12:21] <DUKiSA> windows partision
[12:22] <flaccid> can you boot to livecd?
[12:22] <DUKiSA> yes i`m now on live cd ;] 
[12:22] <DUKiSA> windows can`t boot
[12:22] <DUKiSA> :)
[12:22] <DUKiSA> and linux;] 
[12:23] <flaccid> please pastebin output of sudo fdisk -l
[12:23] <DUKiSA> Disk /dev/sda: 81.9 GB, 81964302336 bytes
[12:23] <DUKiSA> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9964 cylinders
[12:23] <DUKiSA> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[12:23] <DUKiSA>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[12:23] <flaccid> !pastebin > DUKiSA
[12:23] <DUKiSA> /dev/sda1   *           1        3824    30716248+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[12:23] <DUKiSA> /dev/sda2            3825        9964    49319550    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[12:23] <DUKiSA> /dev/sda5            3825        8923    40957686    7  HPFS/NTFS
[12:24] <DUKiSA> /dev/sda6            8924        8986      506016   83  Linux
[12:24] <DUKiSA> /dev/sda7            9843        9964      979933+  83  Linux
[12:24] <DUKiSA> /dev/sda8            9721        9842      979933+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[12:24] <DUKiSA> /dev/sda9            9356        9720     2931831   83  Linux
[12:24] <DUKiSA> /dev/sda10           8991        9355     2931831   83  Linux
[12:24] <DUKiSA> Partition table entries are not in disk order
[12:24] <DUKiSA> root@ubuntu:~#
[12:24] <DUKiSA> aha ok soryy
[12:24] <stdin> !paste | DUKiSA
[12:24] <ubotu> DUKiSA: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:24] <DUKiSA> i don`t knew :(
[12:25] <flaccid> what is with all the linux partitions
[12:25] <flaccid> do you know which one is /
[12:25] <DUKiSA> hmzz i think sda5
[12:25] <DUKiSA> but i`m not sure
[12:25] <DUKiSA> becouse i forgive it.. i install kubuntu few days ago.. and i try to fix.. but nothing ;(
[12:26] <flaccid> there are 4 linux partitions
[12:26] <DUKiSA> yes
[12:26] <flaccid> and a swap
[12:26] <DUKiSA> yap
[12:26] <flaccid> there should be 1 plus a swap
[12:26] <flaccid> so what did you do
[12:26] <DUKiSA> don`t knew :(
[12:27] <DUKiSA> this is first time to up linux
[12:28] <flaccid> how did you break it
[12:28] <DUKiSA> ?
[12:28] <flaccid> what did you do to make it not work
[12:28] <DUKiSA> install..
[12:28] <DUKiSA> i resize windows partision
[12:29] <flaccid> right
[12:29] <flaccid> thats what did it
[12:29] <flaccid> what did you use to resize it
[12:29] <DUKiSA> partision magic
[12:29] <flaccid> boom!
[12:29] <flaccid> do you need anything on the linux partitions?
[12:29] <ubunturos> how do I enable Konqueror to execute applets when I have sun-java installed?
[12:29] <DUKiSA> on linux no
[12:29] <DUKiSA> but windows yes..
[12:29] <flaccid> DUKiSA: delete them, reinstall kubuntu
[12:29] <DUKiSA> i try
[12:30] <DUKiSA> and nothing..
[12:30] <flaccid> leave your windows parts/filesystems in place
[12:30] <ubunturos> !java applets
[12:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java applets - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <flaccid> wtf does that mean?
[12:30] <DUKiSA> i try to reistal
[12:30] <DUKiSA> yesterday
[12:30] <DUKiSA> and it dosen`t work.
[12:30] <flaccid> can you be specific with anything
[12:30] <flaccid> i know it doesn't work, you've told me that already
[12:30] <flaccid> what did you try to delete the partitions with
[12:30] <DUKiSA> yes with live cd
[12:31] <DUKiSA> and format
[12:31] <DUKiSA> yes..
[12:31] <flaccid> what program
[12:31] <ubunturos> !applet
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about applet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <garfield> stdin: the sound for the fireworks wont stop i desable the sound it still going
[12:31] <DUKiSA> flaccid: with installison cd kubnutnu
[12:31] <DUKiSA> ?
[12:32] <flaccid> DUKiSA: delete with fdisk via konsole on livecd then reinstall kubuntu
[12:32] <flaccid> DUKiSA: sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[12:33] <DUKiSA> ok i will
[12:33] <DUKiSA> try
[12:33] <DUKiSA> tnx..
[12:33] <flaccid> DUKiSA: use p to print the partition table and d to delete a partition. when done w for write then quit
[12:34] <flaccid> make sure you do not delete your win parts
[12:34] <garfield> flaccid:   the sound for the fireworks in creen saver wont stop i desable the sound it still going
[12:34] <garfield> lol
[12:34] <flaccid> nice
[12:34] <garfield> flaccid: it hapen to me once i deleted my win
[12:35] <flaccid> lol
[12:35] <garfield> i wonted to breack linux cd apart
[12:36] <garfield> flaccid:   the sound for the fireworks in creen saver wont stop i desable the sound it still going
[12:36] <flaccid> don't repeat garfield
[12:36] <garfield> stdin: sleepen lol
[12:37] <garfield> flaccid: at least u should say i dont realy know or something
[12:37] <garfield> lol
[12:38] <flaccid> don't really know what?
[12:39] <garfield> flaccid: no realy know but checkin up on it or something.i ask u about the sound that dont want to spot from my screen saver
[12:39] <jussi01> !repeat | garfield
[12:39] <ubotu> garfield: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:39] <DUKiSA> flaccid: what you think about super grub ?
[12:39] <flaccid> DUKiSA: know nothing about it
[12:39] <DUKiSA> oki
[12:40] <flaccid> garfield: don't expect that people have the answer for any question
[12:40] <flaccid> !sound | garfield
[12:40] <ubotu> garfield: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:40] <ubunturos> !patience
[12:40] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:43] <jussi01> garfield: have you tried turning the pcm volume down? right click on the volume icon, click go to mixer and turn pcm down.
[12:45] <GoodHabit> Hello. Help me. My system is broken, but the /var/cache/ is steel present. Can i make repo of downloaded packages?
[12:45] <garfield> jussi01: lol if i turn it down i wont be able to listen to music
[12:45] <maedhros> I get an "Error 22" from grub ??
[12:45] <jussi01> garfield: true. but you didnt say that...
[12:46] <emilsedgh> GoodHabit: sure you can! there are many tutorials about this...
[12:46] <garfield> maedhros: what are u trying to do install grub?
[12:47] <GoodHabit> emilsedgh: Sorry, but I have some troubles with english. And I cannot fond it. But i fount the manuals for opensuse and fedora )
[12:47] <emilsedgh> GoodHabit: my suggestions: 1)do not re-install your GNU/Linux OS because its broken, it could be solved 2)if you want to create a repository, just search about 'creating debian repository'
[12:47] <maedhros> garfield: grub is installed, but when I start up, I get an "Error 22"
[12:47] <GoodHabit> emilsedgh: I want to reinstall. But downloading again - a couple of time here.
[12:47] <GoodHabit> I need to make repo.
[12:48] <GoodHabit> *Only with packages i have.
[12:48] <flaccid> 22
[12:48] <flaccid> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/749
[12:48] <emilsedgh> GoodHabit: so, burn /var/cache/apt/archives into a disc, after reinstall copy all files to your /var/cache/apt/archives again
[12:48] <GoodHabit> emilsedgh: That's all?
[12:48] <GoodHabit> TY!
[12:48] <GoodHabit> ^)
[12:49] <GoodHabit> I thought what that method will not work...
[12:49] <emilsedgh> GoodHabit: thats not how to make repository, but with that you will not need to dl all of them again
[12:51] <maedhros> flaccid: The referenced "http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml" contains no such information about Error 22 :/
[12:51] <garfield> maedhros: do u have windows install?
[12:51] <maedhros> garfield: Yes
[12:52] <garfield> maedhros: the best i can tell u is to enter recover mode and fix your mbr with the comand fixmbr then u reinstall automatic your  grub
[12:54] <RivaeAerya>  Hey. Does anybody know how to tile windows in kde?
[12:54] <RivaeAerya> like this: http://www.suckless.org/~jg/wmii-20070228.png
[12:54] <garfield> maedhros: was grub allready install on your xp and linux and working?
[12:54] <RivaeAerya> But then in KDE
[12:55] <maedhros> I had xp installed, then I installed kubuntu and grub. Now I get  Error 22
[12:55] <maedhros> garfield: ^
[12:55] <anryko> j /ibm
[12:55] <DUKiSA> madaucer:  you have 22 i have 21.. ;(
[12:56] <jussi01> maedhros: try reinstalling grub
[12:56] <jussi01> !grub
[12:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:57] <flaccid> should read what is pasted
[12:58] <garfield> maedhros: then fix your mbr with your xp cd then either reinstall grub or refesh it.
[12:58] <flaccid> update-grub on livecd iirc
[12:58] <garfield> maedhros: i can give u a link for grub but my link is in french :(
[12:59] <RivaeAerya> Hey. Does anybody know how to tile windows in kde? like this, but then in KDE: http://www.suckless.org/~jg/wmii-20070228.png
[12:59] <RivaeAerya> google doesn't give any good answers
[12:59] <garfield> maedhros: /media/SWISNIFE1/tutorielcomment_recuperer_ubuntu_apres_installation_windows - Documentation Ubuntu Francophone.htm look for the part automatiquement
[01:00] <garfield> RivaeAerya: i look at it and i dont understand
[01:00] <dcorbin_work> How do figure out which package contains "kplayer"?
[01:01] <RivaeAerya> garfield: well it's just an example, it's something that makes all the windows go next to eachother, not over eachother. so what i'm looking for is placing all the windows in a grid, next to each other, and below each other
[01:01] <garfield> dcorbin_work: lol
[01:01] <emilsedgh> dcorbin_work: kmplayer, i think
[01:01] <RivaeAerya> garfield: but it's not for KDE
[01:01] <dcorbin_work> There is also "kplayer", which I like much better.
[01:02] <dcorbin_work> I have it on my gentoo system.
[01:02] <jussi01> !find kplayer
[01:02] <jhatleli1> Hi all, I am trying to force X fonts to 96x96. They are at 20x20, My Res is 1280x720 (720p HD). I have tried to add "-dpi 96" and ScreenSize in Xorg.conf with no luck. The driver is a i810 (i915) driver/chipset
[01:02] <jhatleli1> I allso set Xft.dpi: 96
[01:02] <garfield> RivaeAerya: ok i saw that option when i install beryl
[01:02] <ubotu> Package/file kplayer does not exist in feisty
[01:02] <RivaeAerya> garfield: yeah but in beryl you only view them and they don't stay like that, i mean move them permanently that way
[01:03] <dcorbin_work> I know the package doesn't exist.  But it might be in package with another name.
[01:03] <jussi01> dcorbin_work: the file doesnt exist either.
[01:03] <emilsedgh> dunno about kplayer...
[01:03] <jussi01> dcorbin_work: go find the tar, and build it yourself
[01:04] <garfield> RivaeAerya: i dont realy know u will have to check in #ubuntu-effects
[01:05] <dcorbin_work> sadly, the kplayer docs indicate it's part of debian (and derivatives).  Would Kubuntu actually remove something to simplify things?
[01:05] <dwidmann> dcorbin_work: I know the last time I used kplayer I had to build it myself
[01:06] <flaccid> !mga
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mga - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <flaccid> !matrox
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about matrox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <flaccid> !find mga
[01:06] <ubotu> Found: xserver-xorg-video-mga, mga-vid-common, mga-vid-source
[01:07] <jussi01> !botabuse > flaccid
[01:11] <garfield> dcorbin_work: im lookin at a web site and it have the pack kplayer mplayer.and they explaines how to install etc
[01:12] <dcorbin_work> garfield: thanks.  I missed the line about changing sources.lsit
[01:12] <dcorbin_work> *list
[01:12] <emilsedgh> ah, kplayer should be the KDE's Fronend to mplayer, right?
[01:12] <garfield> dcorbin_work: they allso have the deb for it.but its best if u install it from adept
[01:13] <paradise> hi i have some problem
[01:14] <jussi01> !ask | paradise
[01:14] <ubotu> paradise: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:14] <paradise> emm
[01:15] <paradise> my problem with update
[01:15] <paradise> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36305/ see plz
[01:15] <flaccid> !beingawank > jussi01
[01:16] <paradise> hmm
[01:20] <garfield> paradise: if know one can help u, stdin can but he's sleepen lol :-p
[01:21] <paradise> back
[01:21] <paradise> loooooool
[01:21] <paradise> i think so
[01:22] <^_^> hi to all
[01:22] <^_^> hello ))) ) ) )
[01:22] <dwidmann> hmm, kplayer looks to have gotten a lot better in the last year ... and here I was worried it wasn't being developed anymore ...
[01:23] <garfield> dwidmann: that thing is tellin us hello lol
[01:24] <garfield> dwidmann:  <^_^>
[01:24] <^_^> hi to all....i'm new to kubuntu.....and i've got some probs concerning the "sound"...how do i install the Driver?
 hello
[01:25] <NickPresta> !sound | ^_^
[01:25] <ubotu> ^_^: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:25] <NickPresta> !beingawank > NickPresta
[01:25] <NickPresta> Aww. flaccid got my hopes up :)
[01:25] <^_^> ok thanks a lot
[01:28] <PhinnFort> i'm having a nightmare trying to get kubuntu on my laptop
[01:28] <PhinnFort> xorg fails
[01:28] <PhinnFort> anyone know a lot about the i810 driver?
[01:28] <garfield> nope
[01:29] <NickPresta> !drivers
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:29] <NickPresta> !video
[01:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[01:29] <NickPresta> gah
[01:29] <NickPresta> hold on
[01:29] <PhinnFort> if I don't set a busid, it complains, and if i set one, it wants the other one
[01:29] <garfield> PhinnFort: maybe stdin knows but hes snoozin
[01:29] <PhinnFort> (theres one for the display controller and the vga compatible controller)
[01:30] <garfield> !kdesu
[01:30] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[01:30] <PhinnFort> !xorg
[01:30] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:30] <emilsedgh|AFK> PhinnFort: press alt+ctrl+f1, then login and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:30] <PhinnFort> emilsedgh|AFK: I'm not in X
[01:31] <NickPresta> PhinnFort, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-0e3051713171cb5d1bf49dc2dc7bea24eb9ed83e
[01:31] <NickPresta> PhinnFort, check that out.
[01:31] <PhinnFort> emilsedgh|AFK: X won't start, it borks with no matching device section for instance busid blah blah
[01:31] <emilsedgh|AFK> PhinnFort: so run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and follow the steps
[01:32] <PhinnFort> NickPresta: tried, but then i get failed to laod module "intel"
[01:32] <PhinnFort> sorry
[01:32] <PhinnFort> forgot to install it;)
[01:33] <PhinnFort> oh, it has no installation candidate...
[01:34] <NickPresta> PhinnFort, I just (simulated) installed xserver-xorg-video-intel. it should work
[01:34] <PhinnFort> ok, i hadn't enabled multi/universe
[01:34] <NickPresta> oh okay.
[01:35] <PhinnFort> is installing now
[01:35] <NickPresta> I'm on my way out so someone else will have to assist you if you need more help.
[01:35] <NickPresta> Good luck
[01:35] <PhinnFort> NickPresta: thanks
[01:35] <PhinnFort> I think I'll manage it now
[01:36] <PhinnFort> hmm, now Xorg starts, but with a blank screen
[01:37] <PhinnFort> and I can't switch back to the terminal...
[01:37] <PhinnFort> i guess i'm making progress
[01:38] <PhinnFort> what's the difference between the -i810 and -intel drivers, btw?
[01:43] <PhinnFort> aside from the fact that one is obviously superior
[01:45] <PhinnFort> can someone give me the majors/minors for /dev/agpgart?
[01:47] <PhinnFort> now I get that Xorg can't open /dev/agpgart
[01:47] <garfield> agpgart?
[01:47] <PhinnFort> yup
[01:47] <PhinnFort> i tried modprobing intel-agp, but no go
[01:48] <aguitel> anyone know to restore GRUB?
[01:48] <PhinnFort> !grub
[01:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:57] <dwidmann> PhinnFort: the -intel driver has full 3d support for intel chipsets up through the 965gm afaik
[01:58] <PhinnFort> dwidmann: why is it only in universe then?
[01:58] <dwidmann> is it?
[01:58] <garfield> flaccid: my icons on the destop i want to change the names color.i cant see wa is riten
[01:58] <PhinnFort> universe or multiverse, I didn't check, but it wasn't even installed by default on the install cd
[01:59] <dwidmann> Odd, it's in universe, yet it's maintained by the ubuntu core developers
[01:59] <PhinnFort> can someone paste the output of ls -l /dev/agpgart?
[02:00] <mikko> can anyone suggest some good drivers for ati's X**** series cards? :o
[02:00] <mikko> if any working exist that is
[02:01] <dwidmann> crw-rw---- 1 root video 10, 175 2007-09-03 12:37 /dev/agpgart
[02:01] <PhinnFort> thanks
[02:02] <PhinnFort> hrm... I need agpgart, and I seemingly need to update to kernel .21 to get it
[02:15] <PhinnFort> anyone know why there isn't an agpgart module availabe in ubuntu?
[02:16] <Jucato> PhinnFort: it's in mine... "lsmod | grep agppart"
[02:17] <DUKiSA> anobady knew whove to fix eror 21 on grub ?
[02:17] <Jucato> agpgart*
[02:17] <DUKiSA> who*
[02:20] <jussi01> DUKiSA: have you tried reinstalling rub?
[02:20] <jussi01> grub*
[02:20] <PhinnFort> Jucato: I need to upgrade my kernel, apparently, and that's kinda hard from the livecd
[02:20] <PhinnFort> (I don't suppose there's kexec support in the kubuntu livecd)
[02:22] <PhinnFort> i guess I'll have to try arch linux again
[02:22] <DUKiSA> jussi01: yes and nothing
[02:22] <DUKiSA> !grub
[02:22] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:23] <paradise_> back
[02:23] <paradise_> hi i have some problem
[02:23] <paradise_> my problem with update
[02:23] <paradise_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36305/ see plz
[02:23] <PhinnFort> I don't suppose it's possible to install from cli with the normal install cd?
[02:29] <DexterF> hi
[02:33] <DexterF> !dhcp
[02:33] <ubotu> dhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, a protocol for automatic IP assignment from a router. Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHCP
[02:34] <DexterF> !dhcp-hostname
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhcp-hostname - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <DexterF> !wifi
[02:34] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:34] <DexterF> how do I make feisty announce its dhcp hostname to the dhcp server?
[02:50] <r0y4l> is there anyone outside with a audigy2zs and got recording via microphone working?
[02:52] <r0y4l> i think that's a wrong mixer setting - i can record the sound that i'm playing i.e. with xmms but can not record something via mic? the mic works on my onboard soundcard.
[02:53] <garfield> stdin: u there?
[02:53] <otto_> hi, my computer can output any sound, any help?
[02:53] <otto_> cannot
[02:53] <otto_> volume on max everywhere
[02:59] <maggio> hi
[03:00] <IOSq> hi
[03:02] <maggio> this channel is english only?
[03:02] <Jucato> maggio: yes
[03:02] <Jucato> !it | magical_trevsky
[03:02] <ubotu> magical_trevsky: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:02] <Jucato> sorry
[03:02] <Jucato> !it | maggio
[03:02] <ubotu> maggio: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:03] <juan_>  i have binary nvidia drivers installed but when i change my xorg it says i have no NVIDIA drivers, help
[03:03] <maggio> !it
[03:03] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:06] <kkathman> juan_:  well it makes sense that if you change your xorg that would happen
[03:06] <kkathman> juan_:  trying going back to your previous version that you had
[03:06] <kaye> hi, all. I trying to install Kubuntu 7.04 but i cannot launch KDE-desktop on livecd. System waits for something before launching it and sometimes pring message about ipw 3945...
[03:07] <kaye> How I can disable wireless on booting?
[03:08] <kkathman> kaye:  turn it off on your computer
[03:08] <kkathman> i.e. disable
[03:10] <juan_> ive gone back to the previous but if i have nvidia drivers why is it saying i dont?
[03:10] <kaye> but kernel does pause with turned on and off wireless
[03:11] <roberto_> salve ragazzi
[03:12] <kkathman> juan_:  there are actually two parts of the video driver, one is loaded at boot time, the other is loaded from the xorg
[03:12] <roberto_> qualche consiglio su come far girare beryl su feisty 7 nvidia g4 440?
[03:12] <kkathman> !it
[03:12] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:12] <kkathman> !es
[03:12] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:12] <ksivaji> !games
[03:12] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[03:13] <juan_> kkathman: how do install both parts last time i used nvidia i just selected it and it worked
[03:14] <kkathman> juan_:  well if it has worked in the past, hopefully you have a copy of that xorg.conf
[03:14] <kkathman> usually its the Device and Screen sections that must be correctly set up
[03:15] <kkathman> if not, you'll need to manually change those juan if they arent there
[03:16] <kkathman> juan_:  and when you "used nvidia" it installed the appropriate driver and made changes to your xorg.org for you probably
[03:17] <garfield> kkathman: ive been receavin problem everytime i reinstall linux to update,i tink there is a pack thats keep breaken.everytime i got that problem i can no longer install with adept maneger or sudo apt-get install.any idea how to fix this? here's what adept told me http://pastebin.com/m5512d4e
[03:17] <juan_> nope it installed it and i put "nvidia" in the xorg.conf then it work :s meh ill take a closer look at xorg.conf
[03:18] <kkathman> garfield:  yes that happens sometimes - are you trying to get something from the repositiories or via a 3rd party?
[03:19] <kkathman> garfield:  this can also happen if the package (a) has version mismatches or (b) is corrupt
[03:19] <garfield> kkathman: i just click on update in adept and it seem it update everything thats need to update
[03:20] <kkathman> garfield:  if thats the case, it probably should be reported - is the package a 3rd party or base kubuntu?
[03:20] <kaye> is there command for disable wireless?
[03:20] <kkathman> kaye - like I said, can you disable it on your computer prior to install?
[03:21] <kkathman> like a switch on your laptop or desktop?
[03:21] <garfield> kkathman: i dont know it was installing a lot of things like over 1000 downloads it did
[03:21] <garfield> kkathman: so i dont know witch cost the problem
[03:22] <kkathman> garfield:  ahhh have you tried again?  sometimes the order in which it installs gets a little mixed up
[03:22] <kaye> on my laptop after disabling it problem don't lost
[03:22] <garfield> !aptfix
[03:22] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:22] <garfield> kkathman: i did try again i give me the samething
[03:23] <kkathman> another thing you can try is sudo apt-get -f install and see if it can right itself
[03:31] <garfield> kkathman: in screensaver i choose fireworks etc i enable the sound for the fireworks now the sound dont want to stop
[03:32] <kkathman> garfield:  hmm sounds like a bug in the screensaver??  Dunno, I never use screensavers :)
[03:33] <DexterF> I'd liek to compile a src from gutsy/universe in feisty, so I added a deb-src line, updated and ran apt-get -b. still gets the feisty src. how come?
[03:34] <kkathman> DexterF:  you added a gutsy deb-src line?  did you do an apt-get update ?
[03:34] <DexterF> ah, forgot universe. thought that was in by default.
[03:34] <DexterF> lemme check now
[03:34] <kkathman> kinda dangerous too a little :)
[03:35] <DexterF> bah, f!ck it. tinker machine. if it explodes, i still got Etch on it :P
[03:35] <kkathman> DexterF:  Im a bit skeptical about compiling that in feisty
[03:35] <kkathman> more than likely you'll get version mismatches on a LOT of stuff
[03:36] <DexterF> either it works or it breaks. im about to figure :) if you know where to get aircrack-ng 0.9.1 for feisty, lemme know
[03:36] <kkathman> good luck
[03:36] <DexterF> kkathman: nah nah, I only added a deb-src line, not a deb line.
[03:37] <kkathman> DexterF:  well, but consider if you forget and do a dist-upgrade :)
[03:37] <kkathman> or
[03:37] <DexterF> even a dist-upgrade won't build debs from src until I manually do it, right..?
[03:37] <kkathman> if you try to compile, you only have the deb-src (gutsy) for that particular set of pkgs - if they require other standard srcs you'll most definitely get mismatches
[03:38] <kkathman> but you can always try :)
[03:38] <DexterF> apt-get build-dep package figures that. wasn't too much and didn't complain
[03:40] <DexterF> dumdidum.. compiling...
[03:41] <DexterF> bam. aircrack-ng 0.9.1 :)
[03:42] <DexterF> what I don't get tho is how that wifi stick works anyway. it scans wifi networks, displays power beams and so on but I seriously can't tell what kernel module handles it
[03:42] <garfield> kkathman: sudo apt-get -f install i tink it work but im installing vlc to realy see if it work then i'll try adept
[03:42] <kkathman> ok
[03:42] <hudsy> i cant open amarok
[03:42] <hudsy> ...
[03:43] <DexterF> it's a Netgear WG111v2 I didn't get working on Etch, Feisty handles it right away, got a wlan0 and wmaster0, the latter seems to be the stick accordign to the MAC address
[03:43] <DexterF> hudsy: I can't play the piano.
[03:43] <DexterF> (more info)
[03:43] <hudsy> i can....
[03:44] <hudsy> but my amarok dont run
[03:44] <DexterF> what version, what do you do, what happens, what does it say when you run it from a console?
[03:46] <hudsy> it seems it runs but suddenly the icon disappears
[03:46] <DexterF> run from a console
[03:46] <hudsy> nothing..
[03:47] <hudsy> hudsy@xD:~$ amarok
[03:47] <hudsy> 
[03:53] <mohamed_> almost talk about increase the memory used
[03:53] <mohamed_> but i don't know where i set this
[03:53] <mohamed_> http://www.mail-archive.com/ctjug-forum@googlegroups.com/msg01218.html
[03:54] <garfield> kkathman: the PROBLEM IS FIX MAN TANKS A LOT .IT TOOK ME 4 DAY TO FIND HOW TO FIX IT.and i thoung it was linux that was install bad so i reinstall about 3 times linux :(
[03:54] <kkathman> garfield:  super glad I could help :)
[03:55] <Savak> now you can contribute to kubuntu ;)
[03:55] <garfield> Savak:  lol never
[03:56] <garfield> hahaha
[03:56] <combo__> hi! can someone help with my USB disc (format: FAT) | if i want to copy something on it there is an alert saying that this is 'Read-only file system'... how to change that ? :] 
[03:57] <kkathman> combo__:  you might need to make a change to your fstab - i.e. make it RW
[03:58] <garfield> combo__: install ntfs-config then run kdesu ntfs-config then enable them to rite on
[03:58] <combo__> kkathman: and how to change that fstab ?
[03:58] <combo__> garfield: i have installed ntfs-3g already
[03:58] <combo__> garfield: everything is configured well
[03:58] <garfield> kkathman: no fstab it complicates to work
[03:58] <kkathman> combo__:  use the following:  rw,user,noauto
[03:58] <combo__> i have also windows (NTFS) partition and it is write-able so it works fine
[03:59] <combo__> kkathman: ok.. let's see...
[03:59] <garfield> combo__: run kdesu ntfs-config
[03:59] <Savak> think you can just do mount /dev/sdax -o remount,rw
[03:59] <kkathman> Savak:  yep that works too :)
[03:59] <kkathman> I just figured he mounted via fstab or wanted to :)
[03:59] <Savak> hehe yeah thats the long term fix :P
[03:59] <emilsedgh> combo__: please go to SystemSettings->Advanced Tab->Disks and Filesystems, if it could find your disc, you could change its options and give suitable permissions to it
[04:00] <combo__> kkathman: no such command (i wrote 'rw,combo,noauto')
[04:00] <combo__> emilsedgh: will try that now
[04:00] <kkathman> combo__: try what savak said and I'll get you the exact line
[04:00] <NetSKaVeN> hell-o!
[04:01] <garfield> emilsedgh: he did allready but he cannot write to it
[04:01] <NetSKaVeN> anyone can help me with a USB disk mount problem?
[04:01] <kkathman> combo__:  /dev/<yourdevice>        /media/<yourmountpoint>  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[04:02] <Savak> combo_ try: mount /dev/<yourdevice> -o remount,rw
[04:02] <kkathman> NetSKaVeN:  that line applies to you too
[04:02] <kkathman> or do what Savak is saying
[04:03] <NetSKaVeN> kkathman: disk is automounting well but with bad owner
[04:03] <combo__> emilsedgh: hmmm... something very interesting
[04:03] <NetSKaVeN> I need to change automount owner only
[04:03] <combo__> when i opened discs and file systems...
[04:04] <combo__> there is written that this module can't be read
[04:04] <combo__> and there are also written possible reasons
[04:04] <emilsedgh> combo__: go to administrator mode and modify your disk and change permissions/owner
[04:04] <combo__> emilsedgh: i'm in admin mode
[04:04] <combo__> and before connecting my usb disc (this is mp3 exactly) everything looked good
[04:05] <combo__> but now there is nothing to do... only that communicate
[04:05] <garfield> emilsedgh: your confusin him my way is easy and best u dont have to modify notthin or change admin etc
[04:05] <combo__> can't do nothing :/
[04:05] <garfield> combo__: ^
[04:05] <mikko> hm, any ideas why cant i create folders (or anything for that matter) into my /media/hda1/ ?
[04:06] <emilsedgh> so, go on garfield, sorry :)
[04:06] <combo__> possible reasons: during last upgrade this module wasn't updated [ or ]  this modul is out of standard distribution of KDE or it is too old :/
[04:06] <garfield> lol
[04:06] <combo__> only those two reasons ... that text and nothing else here
[04:06] <Savak> and I've lost my microdrive lol
[04:07] <DexterF> lost like "blew" or lost like lost?
[04:07] <combo__> garfield: i also tried your solution
[04:07] <garfield> mikko: is your disk read and rite?
[04:07] <garfield> combo__: what did kdesu ntfs-config say?
[04:08] <Savak> lost like left it in another Thinkpad :(
[04:08] <combo__> but it also doesn't work cuz every of those to option is turned on
[04:08] <combo__> always those two option were turned on
[04:08] <garfield> combo__:  the 2 option?
[04:08] <mikko> garfield: it shows as writeable, so yeah
[04:09] <combo__> garfield: yeap... i have 2 options
[04:09] <garfield> mikko: even if it shows as writeble sometimes u have to install ntfs-config
[04:10] <mikko> oh
[04:11] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[04:11] <juan_> my nvidia drivers arnt the right version for my kernel modules but theyre both installed from official repo, and i cant figure out how to get them to be the same version
[04:11] <combo__> craaaaaap!! :[  |  it seems that my usb driver is crashed :////
[04:11] <combo__> but under winXP it works as well
[04:12] <combo__> so now i'm a bit confused :] 
[04:12] <Savak> if it's ntfs, you need to ensure it's unmounted properly before disconnecting, or Linux will get angry
[04:12] <zipper> juan_, in debian, i remember that i used to have the problem because i forgot to install the nvidia kernel package... but that shouldn't be necessary if you follow the (k)ubuntu guide
[04:12] <combo__> Savak: it is FAT
[04:12] <combo__> not ntfs, not fat32... but only FAT
[04:12] <combo__> ( as manual says )
[04:13] <juan_> ive installed both nvidia-kernel and nvida-glx
[04:13] <garfield> combo__: in system settings>disk your hddd have to be mounted with user in your name  groupe your name and mounted permision anybody
[04:13] <Savak> Why not just whack fat32 on it
[04:13] <zipper> juan_, hmm... wierd. Have you installed a new kernel/kernel image since you installed the nvidia-kernel ?
[04:14] <NetSKaVeN> anyone can help me with the KDE automount in Kubuntu?
[04:14] <garfield> combo__: if your hdd is fat u have to choose type VFAT
[04:14] <juan_> its a fresh install, but it was working yesterday so i must of done something wrong
[04:14] <zipper> NetersLandreau_, noone can answer that question. However, if you state your problem, someone might
[04:14] <combo__> but my usb driver cannot be even detected on this list :/
[04:14] <zipper> juan_, apparently. Tried re-installing the drivers?
[04:15] <zipper> or is that what you're doing now?
[04:15] <combo__> if i plug it in ... and go settings->discs... and go into admin mode.. there is only an alert
[04:15] <combo__> nothing else
[04:15] <combo__> garfield: and where should i choose that VFAT type ?
[04:15] <garfield> combo__: hmm that usb got probs
[04:15] <combo__> before it worked well
[04:16] <combo__> idunno what happened :|
[04:16] <juan_> zipper: tgats wgat un doing now
[04:16] <garfield> combo__: in disk filesystem look for your disk and choose it type vfat
[04:16] <combo__> garfield: okay... so it won't work... cuz there is no list (as u're saying)... so it looks somethin' is crashed
[04:17] <mikko> hm, i ran the ntfs-config and enabled write in it, but now i cant see anything in the drive
[04:17] <zipper> juan_, hmm, no idea really. Try un-installing everything you have from nvidia, reboot, and start over
[04:17] <combo__> there only an alert after pluging in my usb driver
[04:17] <mikko> it does show the ammount of files in it from properties though
[04:17] <combo__> and if it's not plugged in.. everything works fine
[04:17] <combo__> so it is all about that stupid usb driver which is probably chrashed
[04:17] <combo__> but under winXP works :/
[04:17] <combo__> veeeeeeeery strange :/
[04:18] <nerv203> Hmmm, can anyone help me? I'm trying to find a java plugin for mozilla in adept, but I can't seem to find anything. I've got the restricted, universe, and default repositories selected already. Am I just searching the wrong terms?
[04:18] <combo__> wait a sec... can have it something in common with libfaad2-0 ? :))
[04:18] <soc> hi
[04:18] <nerv203> Hello soc.
[04:18] <soc> is ther ealready a repo for kde4 alpha 2?
[04:19] <BluesKaj> nerv203, java-common and j2re1.4 should take care of it
[04:19] <nerv203> BluesKaj: Thanks :)
[04:20] <emonkey-f> soc: I think they will be in the feisty-backports as soon as the are avalaible
[04:20] <soc> ok thanks ...
[04:21] <soc> jriddell normally packages them?
[04:21] <mikko> nvm, ran the ntfs-config second time and that apparently did the trick, works now
[04:23] <Riddell> soc: alpha 2 has been out for many months
[04:23] <Riddell> soc: beta 2 isn't out yet, unless I've missed some announcement
[04:25] <soc> soory, i meant beta 2
[04:26] <soc> it was tagged last week as far as i know ...
[04:27] <soc> Riddell: don't know if there will be a formal anouncement ...
[04:27] <Riddell> soc: there will be, probably tomorrow
[04:27] <soc> ah ok
[04:27] <soc> just wanted to know if it's worth to compile it myself ...
[04:28] <NetSKaVeN> anyone know a good doc about KDE automounting in Kubuntu?
[04:31] <jhutchins> KDE mounts automatically?
[04:31] <jhutchins> I would have called that loading, rather than mounting.
[04:31] <jhutchins> Mounting is usually applied to filesystems, not desktop environments.
[04:32] <lusr> j/wi5
[04:39] <Kworth> Anyone using kmymoney ? i need setup help
[04:47] <ubuntu_> test
[05:03] <yeniklasorr> Knetworkmanager is not keeping my wireless network's passwords. I do not want use kwallet. Can you help
[05:03] <zipper> why dont you want to use kwallet?
[05:11] <NetSKaVeN> jhutchins: KDE mounts the hotplug devices
[05:11] <BasilS> what do you think about using more than one dm(for example Gnome and KDE) ? Is it harmful for system?
[05:11] <ddd> hello all
[05:13] <ddd> i have a strange problem. i connect to the net with kppp. everything works fine but konqueror and kontact act like i'm not connected. I'm on kubuntu feisty.
[05:13] <zipper> BasilS, it's "wm" for window manager, and no... If you do it properly, it should be quite safe except for taking up a bit more hdd space
[05:13] <yeniklasorr> zipper : kwallet wants password each login. Is there any option for knetworkmanager remember passwords?
[05:14] <leOn> is there any way i can blacklist modules on grub ?
[05:15] <zipper> yeniklasorr, but if you give that password once every login, no other programs will ask you for it. Kopete, knetworkmanager and so on
[05:17] <yeniklasorr> zipper : I'm closing kwallet automaticly (after 1 minute). Because of privacy.
[05:18] <ddd> any method how i can try to find the problem with konqueror?
[05:19] <emilsedgh> you closet your wallet because of privacy, then you want that it remembers your password
[05:20] <jhutchins> BasilS: Gnome and KDE are more than just desktop managers, the problem is they're starting to handle system chores like managing drive mounts, and there can be conflicts.
[05:20] <jhutchins> NetersLandreau_: Actually, hal/udev/hotplug should handle mounting them.
[05:21] <jhutchins> KDE should just provide a control interface.
[05:23] <emilsedgh> with KDE 4.x, with Solid, that would be possible...
[05:31] <kaminix|benkyou> How is a bash variable formated? I want to make a tagging script later on, but make the files it should use now. Can I write something like this on each line of data? $variablename='data' (ex: $artist='Marilyn Manson' or $album='')?
[05:32] <kaminix|benkyou> Will it be easy to use in a way like: randomtaggingprogram -artist $artist -album $album -title $title -tracknumber $trackno?
[05:33] <yeniklasorr> emilsedgh : I have 10 instant messengers open. Lots of different password. What is point of your question ? My wallet is closing after 1 minute. Do you know how to keep password for knetworkmanager ?
[05:34] <emilsedgh> no
[05:34] <gaehurch> hi
[05:37] <nadrosima> hello
[05:37] <pag> !hi | nadrosima
[05:37] <ubotu> nadrosima: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:39] <nadrosima> !thanks  |  pag
[05:39] <ubotu> pag: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[05:39] <nadrosima> hey pag
[05:39] <nadrosima> i have a small proplem
[05:39] <pag> nadrosima, be more specific ;)
[05:40] <nadrosima> cant set display depth or scren resulations my other pc
[05:40] <nadrosima> ati graph card
[05:41] <pag> nadrosima, personally I can't help - I know nothing about ati, sorry... hang around for a while, maybe someone else will be able to help you
[05:41] <nadrosima> u want see more externalthree.com/2.png this picture staying 2 week :P
[05:44] <nadrosima> ("Konversation terminated!"). so use ctrl+alt+esc ? this true ?
[05:55] <mille_> hello i am new to kubuntu and have a question on updating
[05:55] <mille_> how often does kubuntu update go get updates?
[05:56] <emilsedgh> mille_: go to adept manager, then click on reload
[05:57] <mille_> does it get auto updates?
[05:57] <emilsedgh> mille_: no, this will make Kubuntu know about updates...
[05:57] <voln> hello i need a prog for synchonisation pocket pc with kubuntu
[05:57] <mille_> in debian i did it manualy
[05:57] <mille_> ok so it is still a manual process
[05:57] <emilsedgh> mille_: its same in Debian, adept is a frontend for APT, its like synaptic
[05:58] <emilsedgh> voln: maybe kmobiltools will help?
[05:58] <arash> !java
[05:58] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:58] <mille_> thanks for your help emilsedgh
[05:59] <arash> can somone tell mewhich to install if i want to be able to see java from a website?
[05:59] <emilsedgh> mille_: adept notifier does it automatically, i think..
[06:00] <voln> emilsedgh that for mobile phone
[06:00] <emilsedgh> np voln
[06:01] <voln> emilsedgh it's for pocket pc too?
[06:01] <emilsedgh> voln: i dunno :(
[06:01] <emilsedgh> voln: thats small, try it
[06:01] <voln> emilsedgh ty, i wil try
[06:06] <david__> how do i install the kde theme manager ??????
[06:06] <DUKiSA> anobady knew who to fix eror 21 ?
[06:07] <david__> the kde theme manager where is it in kubuntu????
[06:08] <mille__> david__: System Settings
[06:09] <david__> its not there.
[06:09] <nadrosima> System->Preference>Qt3 Configuration or Qt4 Configuration
[06:10] <garfield> stdin: i install beryl but im not seing the red crystal in the k-menu to run it so it can be in the bar on the desktop.i only have the beryl setting maneger
[06:10] <nadrosima> garf u need to more setting
[06:11] <nadrosima> display on xorg and system settings
[06:11] <nadrosima> /!beryl
[06:11] <nadrosima> ! beryl
[06:11] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:12] <nadrosima> ! beryyl nvidia
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryyl nvidia - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <david__> no its not there. i mean the design manager that can handle .kth files
[06:13] <nadrosima> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BuildYourOwnNvidiaGlx?highlight=%28beryl%29%7C%28nvidia%29 for nvidia
[06:14] <kysiragi__> can someone help me configure beryl so that when i run it all my windows dont become unmovable?
[06:14] <yamato> Hi @ all
[06:15] <mille__> david__: type kcontrol in your console
[06:15] <kysiragi__> ok
[06:15] <yamato> question: how can I configure samba to acces it from WAN?
[06:17] <kysiragi__> hey matthew, you at wsu?
[06:17] <nadrosima> /etc/init.d/samba conf need write share stage to directory + accesmode
[06:17] <yamato> hello?
[06:18] <yamato> okay
[06:18] <es> hello! I wonder if the kernel in kubuntu 7.04 by default is for i386 or i686
[06:18] <nadrosima> godd night all
[06:18] <david__> how di  i install a .kth?
[06:19] <es> it says 2.6.20-16-generic
[06:19] <yamato> so I have toi change the sec-level?
[06:19] <jussi01> es: its generic so either
[06:19] <es> either what... i386?
[06:20] <SlimeyPete> es: both i386 and i686
[06:21] <es> jussi01: SlimeyPete> ok so since
[06:21] <es> I have a p4 no need to recompile for enable the hyperthreading feature and everything it autodetect right?
[06:22] <nadrosima> yep
[06:22] <nadrosima> i386
[06:22] <SlimeyPete> es: no. It will just work straight away.
[06:22] <SlimeyPete> es: assuming you are using a recent version of ubuntu
[06:22] <es> yes 7.04
[06:22] <es> great thanks
[06:22] <SlimeyPete> es: yeah, it will just work then. You don't have to do anything.
[06:23] <nadrosima> dun worry i am install same verrsion and  using it now
[06:23] <david__> how can i get the design manager for kubuntus kde?
[06:24] <david__> its not in the control center of kde
[06:25] <nadrosima> david  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QTThemeWithoutKDE?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=design+manager&fullsearch=Text
[06:25] <Datradan> join kubuntu
[06:25] <es> to me using gentoo it looks like a dream having the system ready after about an hour :)
[06:26] <anandanbu> Help needed to mount the DVD drive as my Ubuntu7.04 reports when i try mount manually http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36341/
[06:27] <nosrednaekim> last 20 lines of dmesg please
[06:28] <nadrosima> sistem settings > advanced > disk & file system mount any
[06:29] <nadrosima> ineed any desktop on linux for PDA (smart phone)
[06:30] <jussi01> nadrosima: google trolltech
[06:30] <nosrednaekim> nadrosima: you need what?
[06:30] <nadrosima> kde for pda ?
[06:30] <jussi01> and I think access from palm is linux based
[06:31] <nadrosima> i see a mirror mobile linux but now not remember where ?
[06:32] <nadrosima> :=(
[06:32] <garfield>  i on kubuntu 7.04 i instal beryl im not seing the red crystal to activat is im only seing beryl maneger
[06:32] <nosrednaekim> kde is too "heavy" for a PDA. check out the eeePC though
[06:32] <garfield>  i also had install compiz i see no trace of it
[06:32] <nosrednaekim> garfield: that is the icon to activate it.
[06:32] <nosrednaekim> garfield: righ click on it, windowsmanager, beryl
[06:33] <nadrosima> hey garf why u want forced ur computer hardware ?
[06:33] <garfield> theres nothing to right click on im not seing the red crystal to right click on it
[06:33] <nadrosima> u need add ur starting sesion GLX
[06:34] <nosrednaekim> garfield: alt+f2, "beryl-manager"
[06:35] <garfield> nosrednaekim: then what?
[06:35] <nosrednaekim> garfield: now do you see the red crystal in the system tray?
[06:35] <nadrosima> garf what is ur graph card ?
[06:36] <garfield> nosrednaekim: no
[06:36] <nadrosima> nv ati intel sis ?
[06:36] <anandanbu> On inserting the DVD i am getting this error in Ubuntu 7.04 http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3891/mountproblemyf3.png
[06:38] <snowdonkey> Hey.  I already have a "Show Desktop" button on my taskbar but is there a shortcut for minimizing all windows?
[06:39] <nosrednaekim> snowdonkey: isn't that what show desktop does?
[06:39] <snowdonkey> Yes, but I hide my taskbar so if there are keystrokes rather thank clicking that button I'd use it more often.
[06:40] <nadrosima> please check ur monting type (auto ) and acces (not grub only u simple@ubuntu so "simple )
[06:40] <nosrednaekim> garfield: try running beryl-manager from a konsole
[06:41] <nosrednaekim> snowdonkey: there may be... IDK look in the shortcuts config.
[06:41] <nadrosima> i think garf cant do full requr..
[06:42] <garfield> nosrednaekim: i have beryl manager in front my eyes but its the red crystal im not seing in the  system tray
[06:42] <nosrednaekim> garfield: I think you have beryl settings in front of your eyes...
[06:43] <kkathman> garfield:  have you right clicked on the little icon in the tray?
[06:43] <fyrmedic> I just moved my harddrive into another computer and it freezes with the message "mdadm: none of the devices are in conf" or something like that. I assume I need to do a reconfigure or something like that. any suggestions?
[06:43] <tim> have you run "beryl" in a terminal?
[06:43] <tim> no fymedic
[06:43] <snowdonkey> nosrednaikim: I found it, under "Panel" in Global shortcuts.  The default is Alt + Ctrl + D
[06:43] <tim> *not
[06:44] <nosrednaekim> snowdonkey: ok, thanks.. good to know.
[06:44] <kkathman> garfield:  if everything is properly installed, you simply right click the icon in the try, click the select - and choose Beryl
[06:44] <tim> fyrmedic: you will probably find a reinstall easier :) linux isnt as mobile as XP
[06:45] <kkathman> but why go with beryl - its a dead end product?
[06:45] <kkathman> install compiz-fusion instead
[06:45] <toma> hi, does anyone have the /etc/apt/archive entry for kde 3.5.7 for feisty ?
[06:45] <nosrednaekim> kkathman: its what fiesty has by default
[06:45] <garfield> kkathman: i found the problem
[06:45] <kkathman> i understand nosrednaekim  but the fact is - in gutsy it wont be default
[06:45] <kkathman> and its a dead end product :)
[06:45] <fyrmedic> tim: that sucks.
[06:46] <kkathman> and compiz-fusion works extremely well now
[06:46] <nosrednaekim> kkathman: so? the two work almost exactly te same
[06:46] <kkathman> not really
[06:46] <nosrednaekim> kkathman: its harder to get
[06:46] <kkathman> why is it harder to get?
[06:46] <kkathman> there are great ubuntu wikis :)
[06:46] <kkathman> course you cant just "click a button"
[06:46] <kkathman> hehe
[06:46] <garfield> kkathman: in adept it was telling me its install but when i run beryl manerger in the console it say says it wasnt install.pff damn ADEPT MANEGER
[06:47] <kkathman> lol
[06:47] <garfield> !OHMY | garfield
[06:47] <tim> fyrmedic: yeah. its probably possible to reconfigure everything, I am assuming your getting a kernel panic during boot?
[06:47] <tim> because if your getting to a terminal you can use a script to reconfig everything
[06:47] <kkathman> garfield:  psst heres a hint - learn the cli commands then you wont have as much ambiguity :)
[06:48] <garfield> kkathman:  what is the cli command?
[06:48] <kkathman> garfield:  command line interface - terminal commands rather than just gui :)
[06:49] <fyrmedic> tim: yeah. I have had major failures of computers in the last week. 2 power supplies, at least one hd, 1 board and I am left with a laptop and a legacy 486 machine unless I can restore the other with spare parts. Loads of fun
[06:49] <garfield> gui??? kkathman
[06:49] <kkathman> garfield:  yes your point and click interface (i.e. KDE or Gnome)
[06:49] <nosrednaekim> garfield: graphical user interface
[06:50] <fyrmedic> tim: I suppose the kubuntu reinstall isn;t that bad. unfortunately my wife and kids are screaming for at least one windows machine in the house.
[06:50] <tim> fyrmedic: if you cant get to a terminal, although it would be technicaly possible to use a bootcd to do some repair work, I think figuring out all the things that were broke would take an eternity
[06:50] <kkathman> fym hehe I have that problem myself :)
[06:50] <kkathman> oops fyrmedic I mean
[06:52] <garfield> kkathman:  nosrednaekim ??? im confuse explain like u would to a child :(
[06:52] <fyrmedic> kkathman; I think I had a lightning storm come through while I was out of town.
[06:52] <nosrednaekim> garfield: explain about what?
[06:52] <kkathman> garfield:  hmm well, a GUI - is what you use when you point and click with your mouse on things
[06:53] <garfield> kkathman: k
[06:53] <mille__> gui is windows
[06:53] <mille__> gui kde
[06:53] <mille__> gui gnome
[06:53] <garfield> nosrednaekim: i right click on beryl and choose what?
[06:53] <kkathman> mille__:  well kind of yes - windows is an Operating System that has a GUI interface
[06:54] <kkathman> KDE is a GUI (or window manager)
[06:54] <mille__> I know i was just making it simple
[06:54] <kkathman> right
[06:54] <nosrednaekim> garfield: right click on beryl icon -> selectwindow manager->beryl
[06:54] <kkathman> nosrednaekim:  told him to do that earlier (not sure he did ) :)
[06:54] <garfield> nosrednaekim: and?
[06:54] <garfield> nosrednaekim: wheres the cube?
[06:54] <nosrednaekim> garfield: that will start beryl
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> garfield: try ctrl+alt+right arrow
[06:55] <garfield> nosrednaekim: nothing happen
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> garfield: ok.... what type of video card do you have?
[06:55] <garfield> nosrednaekim:  WOOW WOOW WOOW WOOW WOOW WOOW WOOW WOOW WOOW WOOW WOOW WOOW WOOW
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> I figure that did something..
[06:56] <nosrednaekim> :)
[06:56] <garfield> nosrednaekim: OK how to i see the hole cube?
[06:57] <nosrednaekim> ctrl+alt+ left mouse click and drag mouse
[06:57] <braders> Hey can anyone help me with getting my wireless to work please?
[06:57] <angelo> #ubuntu-it
[06:57] <nosrednaekim> braders: sure... what chipset?
[06:58] <braders> chipset for?
[06:58] <garfield> nosrednaekim: that is so freekin SWEET
[06:58] <garfield> !ohmy | garfield
[06:59] <nosrednaekim> braders: the wireless chipset. intel? atheros? broadcom?
[07:00] <braders> im getting the error " The requested wireless network requires security capabilities unsupported by your hardware
[07:00] <nosrednaekim> braders: again.... what is your chipset.
[07:01] <nosrednaekim> braders: it should show in "lspci"
[07:01] <braders> im in windows at the moment because cant get net connection on ubunto
[07:02] <nosrednaekim> ah.. ok. well, I need to kno the chipset... look around i the windows hardware config.
[07:02] <braders> i got a intel pentium D processor, syslink router and using a netgear usb dongle
[07:02] <braders> what chipset my cpu?
[07:02] <nosrednaekim> braders: ok... what model
[07:02] <braders> for? sorry if i sound silly
[07:03] <nosrednaekim> no... your wireless. give me the model # of the netgear dongle.
[07:04] <braders> cool it is Netgear WG111v2 54Mbps wireless USB 2.0 Adapater
[07:05] <nosrednaekim> ok.. thanks... BRB
[07:05] <braders> ok thankyou
[07:08] <nadrosima> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/#N
[07:08] <nadrosima> bra click pls ask first google
[07:09] <nosrednaekim> braders: hmm thats odd.... it says your wireless dongle should be automatically and fully supported by fiesty
[07:10] <braders> when i click the little wirless thing in ubuntu it says my wireless router name there
[07:10] <nosrednaekim> what type of encryption are you using?
[07:10] <braders> but when i click it comes up with the error i said earlier
[07:11] <braders> well i was using WAP2 personal
[07:11] <braders> but changed it to WEP 128bit hrex
[07:11] <ubuntu> hi therei need some help installing ubuntu
[07:11] <Mr_Sonoma> ubuntu, what kind of help do you need?
[07:12] <braders> is that correct the WEP 128 bit Hex digital security?
[07:12] <nosrednaekim> braders: and WEP doesn't work either?
[07:12] <ubuntu> well i'm up to the partition bit and i need to create a partition
[07:12] <nosrednaekim> braders: try a smaller WEP key.. say, 64bit
[07:12] <nadrosima> make handly
[07:13] <Mr_Sonoma> ubuntu, is this your first ubuntu install?
[07:13] <ubuntu> yes that is correct
[07:13] <noesis> I have a pretty OLD Fujitso hard Drive that worked on a 2.4 kernel on Slackware. However, Feisty on the 2.6.2 kernel does not seem to detect the hard drive, but gives no error message either. I have checked demsg and it just simply isn't there... My one hard disk and two optical disks do get detected however. How should I go about it?
[07:14] <Mr_Sonoma> ubuntu, are you dual booting with windows or installing completely?
[07:14] <braders> ok and i should just be able to click the wireless icon and then click my routers name on the drop down menu then the key entry bit will come up?
[07:14] <ubuntu> dual booting with windows
[07:14] <nosrednaekim> braders: yeah.
[07:15] <braders> ok brill i will try a 64 bit wep security ;-) thanks for your help
[07:16] <Mr_Sonoma> ok if i was you for my first install i would let the installer automatically set the partitions, just select "use the largest free space" and let it run
[07:16] <noesis> does the livecd use a different kernel from the default kernel after installation on Kubuntu.?. I am sure my hard-disk got detected on the live cd
[07:16] <ubuntu> yeah but my largest has windows on it
[07:17] <nosrednaekim> braders: k
[07:17] <nosrednaekim> noesis: nope.. same kernel
[07:17] <mahdi> windows won't be on free space, so that can't overwrite anything
[07:17] <Mr_Sonoma> it can partition the "free" space that doesnt have info on it, basically resize the windows partition to allow for the ubuntu partitions
[07:18] <ubuntu> i got 2 partitions two  30 gb  so it will use them?
[07:18] <nadrosima> ubuntu can u see ur old hardisk when u select partition with handly ?
[07:18] <noesis> nosrednaekim: It should be a kernel issue if the drive isnt listed in dmesg?
[07:18] <nosrednaekim> noesis: that is correct
[07:19] <noesis> nosrednaekim: kubuntu is going to hate me if I install 2.4 kernel?
[07:20] <nosrednaekim> noesis: I think that would be rather hard anyway ;)
[07:20] <ubuntu> i really hope it don't resize any of my other partitions
[07:20] <noesis> nosrednaekim: any way one can get legacy stuff from 2.4 kernel compiled as an extra module on the 2.6 ?
[07:20] <nadrosima> if u cant see ur old disk in to bios menu /all linux reading bios setting automa..
[07:21] <nosrednaekim> noesis: thats probably virutally impossible.
[07:22] <noesis> nosrednaekim: the drive isn't that important to me.. i can probably replace it for $2, but i need the data... i'll just boot DSL or something and mount and get the stuff off and buy a new disk.. i think that is going to be the most painless option.
[07:22] <ubuntu> it's all on the one hard drive with 5 partitions and 30gb just sitting there
[07:22] <noesis> thanks for your input nosrednaekim  :-)
[07:22] <garfield> nosrednaekim: tu conai dautre racourci pour beryl?
[07:22] <nosrednaekim> ya...
[07:23] <Iacobus> hello
[07:23] <nosrednaekim> garfield: no hablo espanol o purtugues
[07:23] <nosrednaekim> hello
[07:24] <garfield> nosrednaekim: lol sory lol i got cary away with beryl i forgot to speek english here
[07:24] <nosrednaekim> :)
[07:24] <garfield> nosrednaekim: u know anymore shortcuts for beryl?how to ben the pages?
[07:25] <nosrednaekim> garfield: look in beryl settings all the shortcuts and extra plugins are listed there.
[07:25] <garfield> nosrednaekim: u know anything how to install drivers for webcam.i want to install my webcam to show my friend for them to leave xp for linux
[07:25] <garfield> :)
[07:26] <nosrednaekim> garfield: lol... umm no I don't
[07:26] <nosrednaekim> !webcam | garfield this might help though
[07:26] <ubotu> garfield this might help though: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:30] <garfield> nosrednaekim: beryl sett theres nothing next to the shortcuts
[07:30] <nosrednaekim> garfield: add shortcuts for those functions then..
[07:31] <Jazzman> No estoy...regreso luego
[07:31] <Iacobus> #kde
[07:31] <Jazzman> Ya volv
[07:33] <nadrosima> hey garf pls say me ur graph card model ==?
[07:35] <voln> is anyone knows about how can i improve spam protection in kmail
[07:35] <nadrosima> if u have nv need to instal aiglx
[07:36] <nadrosima> voln this is a mail options not kmail options
[07:36] <voln> i use bogofilter and crm114 but... all spam in my inbox
[07:37] <Mr_Sonoma> do you have bogofilter and crm set to put the spam in the trash?
[07:37] <Iacobus> alguien sabe como me puedo conectar al servidor de terra?
[07:37] <voln> Mr_Sonoma yes, according wizard setup
[07:38] <Mr_Sonoma> lol ok well i was trying to think of something "simple" that could have been over looked
[07:38] <Mr_Sonoma> LOL
[07:38] <voln> Mr_Sonoma sorry in trash
[07:38] <hcbox> hello ttlm : )
[07:38] <hcbox> bon aprs deux jours, j'me bat toujours avec fglrx :D
[07:39] <hcbox> oops wrong channel :D
[07:39] <nadrosima> u have ati card ur jobs very very hard
[07:39] <nadrosima> ahuahu
[07:39] <hcbox> yeah
[07:39] <hcbox> and its not working
[07:39] <hcbox> xD
[07:39] <hcbox> i just want to remove properly the fglrx driver & reinstall it to use
[07:40] <nadrosima> meto and change pc use now amd and nv
[07:40] <hcbox> I want to change my pc, but gimme the money baby :D
[07:40] <nadrosima> lol
[07:41] <nadrosima> dpkg -l beryl beryl-core beryl-manager beryl-plugins beryl-plugins-data beryl-settings beryl-settings-bindings emerald emerald-themes libberyldecoration0 libberylsettings0 libemeraldengine0  linux-restricted-modules-common restricted-manager ubuntu-restricted-extras xorg-driver-fglrx xserver-xgl xserver-xorg-video-ati
[07:41] <hcbox> outch :) ?
[07:42] <nadrosima> remove it but ur desktop cannot open nex time
[07:42] <hcbox> i dont use beryl
[07:42] <nadrosima> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:43] <nadrosima> re install xorg preff.
[07:43] <hcbox> hum will see,
[07:43] <nadrosima> if u dont have any driver
[07:43] <nadrosima> use mesa ok ?
[07:45] <hcbox> hum
[07:47] <hcbox> my Xorg log give me the reason not the same kernel...
[07:48] <SRN9> hey all quick question how would I go about fixing a marginal error in my Lexmark printer? I am not seeing anyhting in my printer setup here to fix this:(
[07:52] <hcbox> (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:2:0:1) found < its 2:0:0 how can i change it ?
[07:53] <nadrosima> lolll
[07:53] <hcbox> xD
[07:53] <hcbox> (II) fglrx(0): [drm]  created "fglrx" driver at busid "PCI:2:0:0
[07:53] <nadrosima> listen first go bios change adapter mode
[07:53] <hcbox> (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.
[07:53] <nadrosima> pc to pc expres
[07:53] <hcbox> Its AGP
[07:53] <hcbox> no pci :D
[07:54] <draik> !podcast
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about podcast - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <draik> How do I download podcasts?
[07:54] <nadrosima> not download
[07:54] <draik> ...?
[07:55] <nadrosima> need to add a adress
[07:55] <draik> not following you. I want to get the KROQ Kevin & Bean podcasts
[07:57] <Fyodor> buenos dias
[07:58] <elias_> hi I trying to patch kernel 2.6.16 with mipl2.0.2
[07:58] <Mr_Sonoma> buenos dias, no habla espanol. habla ingles
[07:58] <elias_> but I cannot find some of some option in xconfig
[08:01] <drewcipher_> !sp
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <drewcipher_> !esp
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <drewcipher_> !es
[08:02] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:05] <jetsaredim> anyone know what's up with beta2?
[08:05] <jetsaredim> was supposed to be released on 8/30
[08:08] <anonimo> hey
[08:08] <anonimo> someone know how to update adept ?
[08:09] <anonimo> like apt-get update
[08:09] <ks3> probably apt-get upgrade
[08:13] <Jucato> anonimo: in Adept Manager, click on Fetch Upates in the toolbar
[08:15] <draik> nadrosima: How do I get podcasts?
[08:17] <scienceboy> is there a way to share music through amarok?
[08:18] <jhutt> Hi Ya'll I'm a mega noob and I need help installing Kubuntu on my laptop.  I have the Kubuntu ISO and a network setup I need to install it on my laptop that does not have a CD-Rom or Floppy drive, it does however have PXE boot.  I'm using Windows XP, any help or a full step by step guide would be great.
[08:18] <nadrosima> draik for listen ?
[08:18] <draik> yes
[08:19] <nadrosima> need  be a member a bodcast sites
[08:20] <nosrednaekim> !network install
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about network install - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <jhutt> thanks
[08:20] <nosrednaekim> jhutt: I have never done one.... what I would reccomend is do a WUbi install
[08:21] <toopy> hello, how to use metacity by default in kubuntu?
[08:21] <scienceboy> !amarok
[08:21] <nosrednaekim> toopy: why in the WORLD would you want to do that>
[08:21] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[08:21] <jhutt> WUbi install?
[08:22] <toopy> nosrednaekim, because I like Metacity themes better?
[08:22] <nosrednaekim> jhutt: yeah... you install from within XP.
[08:22] <nosrednaekim> toopy: Metacity is only going to chane the titlebar..
[08:22] <nadrosima> lspci and see ur network card later eth(x) up / ifconfig eth (x) 192....2 10. 2 gw 192.  10 .....2
[08:23] <jetsaredim> anyone know what's up with kde4 beta2?
[08:23] <nosrednaekim> jetsaredim: whats up with it?
[08:23] <nosrednaekim> jetsaredim: should be released real soon
[08:23] <jhutt> But how would that get it on my laptop, I think I forgot to mention my laptop does not have an operating system. Windows XP is on my desktop
[08:23] <nosrednaekim> jhutt: ah...
[08:23] <nosrednaekim> jhutt: that is a problem ;)
[08:23] <jetsaredim> nosrednaekim: ok - that's basically what I was wondering
[08:23] <alejandro_> someone have used pando in linux?
[08:24] <jetsaredim> I know the schedule on kde.org says 8/30
[08:24] <nosrednaekim> jetsaredim: I think it has been taggen, so the devs are probably working on releaseing it within a couple of days
[08:24] <alejandro_> why when the var is set
[08:24] <Jucato> tag != release
[08:24] <nosrednaekim> jetsaredim: thats when the "tagged" it. then the distros have to build packages
[08:24] <alejandro_> i cant launch pando whith an desktop icon?
[08:24] <jetsaredim> ok - so its kinda on its way?
[08:25] <nosrednaekim> jetsaredim: yep:)
[08:25] <jhutt> I have read countless forums and HOWTO pages but nothing seems to work I have tried both windows and linux, I just want my lappy to life :'(
[08:25] <Kenichi_nl> trigger
[08:25] <nosrednaekim> jhutt: can this laptop boot from USB/
[08:25] <toopy> does anyone know how to make metacity load by default in kubuntu? I know theres a way
[08:25] <nadrosima> way maybe use a flash disk for linux later use this flash disk with ur laptop
[08:25] <nosrednaekim> toopy: modify the startkde script in /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop
[08:25] <Kenichi_nl> how do i download files from irc
[08:25] <nadrosima> maybe ....
[08:25] <jhutt> nosrednaekim: No it can't
[08:26] <nosrednaekim> jhutt: hmm ok. google for ubuntu net-install I guess.
[08:26] <nosrednaekim> jhutt: OR.. do you have another laptop around?
[08:26] <jhutt> Yeah its a Dell 9400 and I ain't opening that
[08:27] <nosrednaekim> jhutt: lol... I was thinking spapping HD's...
[08:27] <nosrednaekim> jhutt: can't harm anything..
[08:27] <Kenichi_nl> Can some one help if i typ trigger or dir or ls there,s nothing happing
[08:27] <alejandro_> what im program does anyone like
[08:27] <alejandro_> gaim or kopete?
[08:27] <nosrednaekim> Kenichi_nl: try running "bash"
[08:28] <jhutt> the dell uses SATA anyways the one im trying to get working is a compaq n410c
[08:28] <Kenichi_nl> bash
[08:28] <toopy> what am I supposed to modify in /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop......I don't see anything related to window managers
[08:28] <kkathman> alejandro:  why not try them both and see which one you like ?
[08:28] <jetsaredim> nosrednaekim: do you know if beta2 is actually being built or if its still too early for that even?
[08:28] <Kenichi_nl> "bash"
[08:28] <Braders> Hey can anyone help my install beryl?
[08:28] <multiservers> hey can someone help me how is called the program that you can play windows .exe files on linux wijnme or something someone nows?
[08:29] <_2> Kenichi_nl /dcc send nickname /path/to/file.name  /dcc get nickname
[08:29] <kkathman> Braders:  check out the wiki there are good how tos there :)
[08:29] <nosrednaekim> jetsaredim: actually i'm not sure... check up on www.kde.org and see if they have released tar-balls yet
[08:29] <oxyman> multiservers: you mean wine?
[08:29] <multiservers> yeh
[08:29] <multiservers> where can i download that?
[08:30] <Kenichi_nl> the wiki from beryl is dead but installing beryl is easy and i got got slatehorn glass theme
[08:30] <kkathman> Kenichi_nl:  there are still some there tho
[08:30] <_2> Kenichi_nl if that's not what you want...  /exec wget URL
[08:30] <kkathman> Kenichi_nl:  especially in the ubuntu tutorials areas
[08:30] <oxyman> multiservers: it should be in the repositories. so you can download it through the package managment
[08:30] <nadrosima> omg all users wat to forced pc lol why want to install beryl ?
[08:30] <Kenichi_nl> no i need to download a file from irc
[08:30] <multiservers> oke il have a look
[08:30] <multiservers> Adept mangaer right?
[08:30] <kkathman> I have compiz-fusion here and it was easy to do
[08:31] <Brader1> Hey can anyone help me install beryl?
[08:31] <oxyman> multiservers: yes
[08:31] <kkathman> Brader1:  what card do you have - video wise?
[08:31] <_2> Kenichi_nl like i said  dcc   or wget
[08:31] <multiservers> oke
[08:31] <scienceboy> how do i switch the clock in the 'taskbar' from a 24 hour clock to a twelve hour AM PM clock?
[08:31] <Brader1> ATI Radeon X200 i think
[08:31] <Brader1> 128mb
[08:32] <nosrednaekim> Brader1: help for things like that is in #ubuntu-effects
[08:32] <Brader1> oh ok thanks also thanks for your help earlier nosrednaekim all sorted now ;-)
[08:32] <nadrosima> scienceboy click pls
[08:32] <nosrednaekim> Brader1: you the wifi guy?
[08:32] <Brader1> only thing i keep lossing my internet connection
[08:32] <Brader1> yea ;-)
[08:32] <nosrednaekim> Brader1: well... move closer to the router.
[08:33] <Kenichi_nl> Beryl installing is easy but is compiz fusion the merge between beryl and compiz
[08:33] <kkathman> Brader1:  check out google and put in beryl ubuntu ATI  and you'll get a hit there
[08:33] <Brader1> getting a 70% connection
[08:33] <scienceboy> nadrosima: not registered so can't :P
[08:33] <nosrednaekim> Brader1: ah...
[08:33] <nosrednaekim> Brader1: how often does it cut you off?
[08:34] <scienceboy> how do i switch the clock in the 'taskbar' from a 24 hour clock to a twelve hour AM PM clock?
[08:34] <kkathman> scienceboy:  right click on the clock and choose configure
[08:34] <nadrosima> right click pls
[08:34] <Kenichi_nl> i wanna have a dock bar but there are no good ones
[08:35] <toopy> kenichi, try avant window navigator
[08:35] <NickPresta> kkathman, right click on clock > Date and Time Format > Time & Dates > in the Time Format, put something like 'pH:MM:SS'
[08:35] <kkathman> Kenichi_nl:  ksmoothdock is ok - but I use KDE to be a dock bar
[08:35] <kkathman> NickPresta:  ahh yeah -true
[08:35] <kkathman> lol
[08:36] <Kenichi_nl> i wanna leave the kde bar at the bottom above a dock would be nice
[08:36] <kkathman> Kenichi_nl:  also AWN is pretty decent too
[08:37] <kkathman> I dont particularly care for it myself, but you might
[08:37] <kkathman> ksmoothdock I think it the one that has the parabolic thing
[08:38] <Kenichi_nl> http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/3022/schermafdruk13ss4.jpg
[08:38] <Kenichi_nl> i did had one in the past what i could load in karamba
[08:38] <Chousuke> That's KDE4?
[08:39] <Kenichi_nl> no its kde 3.57
[08:39] <Chousuke> hmm
[08:39] <Kenichi_nl> i just got the new crystal theme and glass beryl
[08:39] <BrightEyes`> how can i update ekiga using repositories...im on kubuntu7.04 and in adept it cant find the latest ekiga
[08:40] <Kenichi_nl> http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/6834/schermafdruk12ve5.jpg
[08:40] <NickPresta> BrightEyes`, not every package in the repos are the latest package available. Most aren't. Do you absolutely need the latest version?
[08:40] <BrightEyes`> NickPresta: yes.i just want to try it with voipdiscount
[08:40] <Kenichi_nl> those karamba gadgets i need do add them in ever session because if beryl started they are going
[08:41] <Kenichi_nl> are here dutch users?
[08:41] <nosrednaekim> !de
[08:41] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:42] <toopy> does anyone know how to make metacity load in kubuntu when it starts up? I know theres a way
[08:43] <brmassa> Guys, im planning to install windows on my first partition. where can i find a good tutorial to reinstall grub after it?
[08:43] <Kenichi_nl> no dont install windows
[08:43] <brmassa> hehehe
[08:43] <nadrosima> never install grub on the windows partition
[08:43] <brmassa> i need. im programmer and i need to test on many env
[08:44] <nadrosima> select other disk
[08:44] <Kenichi_nl> it will take the boot loader away if you install windows
[08:44] <nosrednaekim> brmassa: virtualization?
[08:45] <brmassa> nadrosima: well... kubuntu is on my hda2 => the second partition. windows will be on my hda1, the first one
[08:45] <Kenichi_nl> is it windows vista?
[08:45] <nosrednaekim> brmassa: thats not a problem... you can reinstall grub from a liveCD
[08:45] <brmassa> nosrednaekim: my CPU does not support it.
[08:45] <brmassa> its a Athlon XP 2000. somewhat old
[08:45] <brmassa> no! win XP
[08:45] <brmassa> how?
[08:46] <nosrednaekim> brmassa: yeah.. thats a bit old for virtualization.
[08:46] <oxyman> brmassa: how about the wiki pages? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:46] <brmassa> ;)
[08:46] <BrightEyes`> how can i update ekiga using repositories...im on kubuntu7.04 and in adept it cant find the latest ekiga
[08:47] <Kenichi_nl> Do you guys get people to use kubuntu?
[08:48] <nosrednaekim> Kenichi_nl: sometimes.
[08:48] <BluesKaj> We help ppl who have questions about kubuntu as well :)
[08:49] <Kenichi_nl> i live in the netherlands but most of the people dont wanna try it
[08:50] <brmassa> bad for them! hehe
[08:51] <venik> sound system issues: every time I open a browser, I lose the sound (from Amarok)
[08:51] <Kenichi_nl> haha indeed in windows my pc will not run at full power but in linux it does i just got a low budget pc
[08:51] <brmassa> its the same problem every company in the world have. people dont buy their products... it involves marking, quality of the product, and time!
[08:51] <venik> Is this the "Auto-suspend if idle after XX second" deal?
[08:52] <venik> or a setting in Amarok?
[08:52] <brmassa> probably
[08:52] <Kenichi_nl> I got one strange thing my webcam ist show in kopete only my tv card
[08:52] <nosrednaekim> venik: konqueror or firefox?
[08:52] <venik> Kon., FireFox or Opera
[08:53] <brmassa> sometimes, kubuntu thinks your sound card is digital when it is not. maybe you shuold check it too
[08:53] <venik> in fact, opening ANY program kills the sound
[08:53] <brmassa> jezz! hehe
[08:53] <logixoul> Guys, I need this package to use Compiz 0.5.2 in KDE, right? http://ftp.cica.es/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/universe/libc/libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig/
[08:53] <logixoul> (it's not in any repository I can find)
[08:53] <brmassa> which kubuntu version?
[08:53] <logixoul> Feisty
[08:54] <venik> 7.04
[08:54] <brmassa> hmmm use beryl then
[08:54] <nosrednaekim> venik: turn off arts
[08:54] <logixoul> brmassa: hmm, why? beryl is old
[08:54] <venik> what is ARTS?  I never turned it on
[08:54] <Kenichi_nl> will installing kde 4 be easy in the nest release
[08:54] <brmassa> logixoul: its basicly the same project
[08:54] <nosrednaekim> logixoul: I don;t think you NEED that package
[08:54] <dasy2k1> when i use beryl i get no window decorations, really anoying
[08:54] <brmassa> forked and now reunited
[08:55] <nosrednaekim> venik: system settings->sound and multimedia->hardware
[08:55] <nosrednaekim> dasy2k1: you using emerald?
[08:55] <dasy2k1> think so as i dont get the red gem to check
[08:55] <venik> I see no ARTS in there
[08:55] <brmassa> logixoul: compiz and beryl have basicly the same code.
[08:56] <venik> I was playing Sirius radio when I noticed it
[08:56] <brmassa> but its not an answer if you really want to install compiz right?! :P
[08:57] <logixoul> brmassa: no, the latest version of Compiz (after the union with beryl), is a lot improved over what used to be Beryl
[08:57] <logixoul> which is why I want Compiz ;)
[08:57] <Kenichi_nl> its a shame the next release wont have kde4 default
[08:57] <brmassa> i see...
[08:57] <mahdi> how would i know if i need to use nvidia-glx-new or not?
[08:57] <scienceboy> how do i switch the clock in the 'taskbar' from a 24 hour clock to a twelve hour AM PM clock?
[08:57] <nosrednaekim> dasy2k1: run "beryl-manager"
[08:58] <nosrednaekim> venik: when you go there... switch audio driver to alsa.
[08:58] <brmassa> make sense. well... installing it from source or some external rep will need further information
[08:58] <mahdi> scienceboy: right click it, select date and time format, 'time and dates' tab, then change the time format to am/pm
[08:58] <dasy2k1> @Kenichi_nl KDE4 looks ok so far but im not sure about dolphin
[08:58] <scienceboy> mahdi: thanks!
[08:58] <venik> I think ALSA is running, because when I shut down, I see that it is turned off explicitly
[08:59] <underdog5004> I want a script of mine to run down a list of filenames and do a "find" on each one...which command would I use for that?
[08:59] <NickPresta> mahdi, which graphics card do you have?
[08:59] <Kenichi_nl> in kde3 i rather use Veroveraar
[08:59] <oxyman> on gutsy dolphin is running very fine :-)
[08:59] <logixoul> nosrednaekim: well, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion says compiz-kde is needed to get window decorations in KDE. And compiz-kde depends on libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig.
[08:59] <mahdi> NickPresta: xfx nvidia geforce 8600gt
[08:59] <BrightEyes`> whats the Ekiga program for kubuntu?
[08:59] <brmassa> but... if you want to risk using brand new stuff, you might want to test Gutsy, which have almost the newset compiz
[08:59] <logixoul> nosrednaekim: well, I guess I'll just download this libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig and see :) thanks
[08:59] <logixoul> brmassa: thanks too
[09:00] <Kenichi_nl> i finaly can install programs trough the console
[09:01] <dasy2k1> what is dolphin like?
[09:01] <nosrednaekim> venik: change the sound driver to alsa.
[09:02] <venik> I did, and since then it is trying to restart the sound system... it seems to be doing it over and over again
[09:02] <NickPresta> mahdi, check out this: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html I don't think the 8600 is supported...
[09:02] <dasy2k1> does it have that blasted breadcrum trail like gnomes default
[09:02] <nosrednaekim> dasy2k1: its like nautilus... dumbed down
[09:02] <nosrednaekim> dasy2k1: the kde4 version is good though
[09:02] <dasy2k1> ARRRGH i hate nautilus
[09:02] <dasy2k1> ok
[09:02] <mahdi> NickPresta: thanks
[09:03] <NickPresta> mahdi, you might have to use the open source drivers instead of the proprietary binary
[09:03] <venik> I can't tell whether it is busted, or just take forever?
[09:03] <mahdi> NickPresta: i get what you mean, i just don't know how to go about it
[09:04] <NickPresta> mahdi, check out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3277236
[09:04] <scienceboy> is beryl-manager the only thing that i need to get for beryl?
[09:04] <nosrednaekim> venik: :sounds" like its busted ;)
[09:04] <venik> ok-- I'll kill it and restart
[09:05] <nosrednaekim> mahdi: you need the 100 series driver
[09:05] <nosrednaekim> scienceboy: no... you need beryl too
[09:05] <nosrednaekim> !beryl
[09:05] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:05] <mahdi> nosrednaekim: i'll check that out in a second, do you have a handy-dandy link for me to look at?
[09:06] <paines> hi
[09:07] <NickPresta> mahdi, nosrednaekim is correct. the 100 series drivers support the 8600. http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.11/README/appendix-a.html
[09:07] <scienceboy> oh ... lol, ok. thanks nosrednaekim!
[09:07] <nosrednaekim> hi paines..
[09:08] <paines> i want to use schillys cdrecord with k3b instead of growisofs, cause 20 % of my burns fail. any chance to configure k3b that it uses cdrecord for dvd burning. i want to see if cdrecord works better
[09:09] <nosrednaekim> paines: yes... i think there is way...
[09:09] <xto> algum que fale portugus
[09:09] <xto> ?
[09:10] <paines> nosrednaekim, that would be great. could you give me a hint
[09:10] <nosrednaekim> 'fraid not... google it. But do think it is possible
[09:11] <paines> nosrednaekim, okay. never mind . thank you anyway
[09:11] <andersin> !pt
[09:11] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[09:14] <venik> well, switching to ALSA made no difference-- almost anything I do shuts down the sound
[09:14] <venik> Konqueror, Opera, Firefox...
[09:17] <paines> bye
[09:18] <venik> I must be the only one having this problem... ;-(
[09:18] <dasy2k1> which repo is opera in?
[09:18] <nosrednaekim> venik: file a bug.
[09:18] <venik> I get is as a deb package from the Opera site
[09:18] <nosrednaekim> venik: take a look at demsg too.
[09:19] <venik> what is demsg?
[09:23] <nosrednaekim> dmesg is a list of errors and output generated by the kernel. just run "dmesg" in a konsole
[09:23] <venik> The way around this problem is to disable the KDE sound system taking over from any program that might need the sound card
[09:23] <venik> Somehow they solved this in XP
[09:23] <nosrednaekim> venik: can you do that?
[09:23] <venik> I did, and it fixed the program
[09:23] <venik> problem
[09:24] <hayami> hi anyone knows how to use c++? i had an error compiling
[09:24] <xto> !pt
[09:24] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[09:24] <Repsa_Jih> i know hot to use C++
[09:24] <hayami> yeah?
[09:24] <Repsa_Jih> what was the error message given?
[09:24] <hayami> can you help me?
[09:24] <hayami> check
[09:24] <venik> but the default was to Auto-suspend if idle after 60 second
[09:24] <hayami> //Primer programa Hola Mundo - Hola linda
[09:24] <hayami> #include <iostream>
[09:24] <hayami> int main() {
[09:24] <hayami>   std::cout << "Hola linda\n";
[09:24] <hayami>   return 0; //indica que la funcion main a terminado satisfactoriamente.
[09:24] <hayami> }
[09:24] <hayami> that's not it
[09:25] <nosrednaekim> !paste
[09:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:25] <hayami> it says
[09:25] <hayami> error main must return 'int'
[09:25] <hayami> what does that error means?
[09:25] <BrightEyes`> anyone to help on getting the latest Ekiga (kubuntu 7.04?
[09:25] <Repsa_Jih> that's very strange
[09:25] <sayers> is there a tool to mount an .iso in KDE?
[09:26] <Repsa_Jih> which compiler are you using?
[09:26] <hayami> anjuta
[09:26] <BrightEyes`> hayami: the open source compiler gcc wants main always return an int... before closing main add return 0;
[09:26] <hayami> =o so what i have to do?
[09:26] <Repsa_Jih> there is a return 0...
[09:26] <nosrednaekim> sayers: kwikdisk
[09:27] <hayami> check friends
[09:27] <hayami> i will put my code on paste bin
[09:27] <Repsa_Jih> kk
[09:27] <hayami> !pastebin
[09:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:28] <emilsedgh> sayers: there is a servicemenu, in kde-apps i think
[09:28] <nadrosima> hello again
[09:29] <hayami> i'm new here, and i check a guide howto install c++ well here is g++ right? the compiler
[09:29] <nadrosima> enjoy nvidia + amd 64 bit
[09:29] <sayers> emilsedgh: and where is that? I dont see anything there
[09:29] <emilsedgh> sayers: or...kde look?
[09:30] <BrightEyes`> anyone to test ekiga with?
[09:30] <blix> hi folks
[09:30] <venik> can anyone help me with the settings of Audacity?
[09:30] <blix> is there an official list of irc channels somewhere?
[09:31] <hayami> repsa_jih
[09:31] <emilsedgh> blix: what?
[09:31] <hayami> check friend
[09:31] <hayami> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36359/
[09:31] <Repsa_Jih> yes?
[09:31] <venik> When I try to record, I get an error telling me to check the sound device and sampling rate
[09:31] <hayami> there's my program code
[09:32] <Repsa_Jih> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36360/
[09:32] <blix> emil: like I said, is there a directory somewhere on the web that lists irc channels?
[09:32] <Repsa_Jih> you used a void for main
[09:32] <Repsa_Jih> g++ only accepts int
[09:32] <hayami> =o?
[09:32] <hayami> how can i change that?
[09:32] <Repsa_Jih> blix: there is none
[09:32] <hayami> i have to change a void?
[09:32] <emilsedgh> blix: clients could retrieve the list of channels frfom a server :)
[09:33] <Repsa_Jih> you can get all channels on a server, tough, using /list
[09:33] <emilsedgh> s/frfom/from
[09:33] <Repsa_Jih> hayami: check my correction
[09:34] <hayami> wow
[09:34] <hayami> i put
[09:34] <hayami> int main (int)
[09:34] <hayami> and it compiled =o
[09:34] <hayami> but now how do i run my program?
[09:35] <Repsa_Jih> open up the terminal
[09:35] <Repsa_Jih> cd to the directory your progam is in
[09:35] <Repsa_Jih> and us
[09:35] <Repsa_Jih> ./your-program-name
[09:35] <Repsa_Jih> s/us/use
[09:36] <hayami> fantastic man!
[09:36] <hayami> thank you
[09:36] <hayami> but instead of main i always put int?
[09:36] <Repsa_Jih> no problem
[09:36] <hayami> sorry
[09:36] <hayami> instead of void?
[09:36] <Repsa_Jih> yes
[09:37] <Repsa_Jih> yes, that would be best
[09:37] <hayami> even if i'm using floating numbers? that's not a problem?
[09:37] <Repsa_Jih> nope, that has nothing to do with it :)
[09:37] <Repsa_Jih> main = always int
[09:38] <nosrednaekim> !off-topic
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <nosrednaekim> !offtopic
[09:38] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:39] <hayami> ok repsa thanks a lot
[09:40] <Repsa_Jih> no problem
[09:40] <M[i] lad> emilsedgh, inja foshe bedam dar beram :D
[09:45] <otalivan> hi everybody. I need to shutdown X on kubuntu in order to install the official Nvidia driver, and I type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" in a console as advised, but it doesn't work
[09:45] <otalivan> anyone has any idea on another way to kill X ?
[09:46] <ScorpKing> hi
[09:47] <nosrednaekim> otalivan: are you running kdm?
[09:47] <otalivan> I am running kde
[09:48] <otalivan> I have kubuntu installed
[09:48] <nosrednaekim> otalivan: you don't have ubuntu installed?
[09:48] <otalivan> I'm a begginer, as you may have already noticed ;)
[09:48] <garfield> nosrednaekim: esque beryl peu fonction avec un cd live?
[09:48] <nosrednaekim> thats what we speciallize in ;)
[09:48] <otalivan> no, I have kubuntu instead, isn't this the "kubuntu support channel"??
[09:48] <M[i] lad> blix, mamnon :*
[09:49] <nosrednaekim> otalivan: yeah... but I was just wondering if you had ubuntu installed as well.
[09:49] <M[i] lad> blix, eva khail kardam toye technotux hastam !
[09:49] <nosrednaekim> otalivan: you can reboot the computer ;)
[09:49] <ScorpKing> i want to mount a loopback encrypted disk on my home directory when i log in. it must use the password from kdm in the mount prosess. any ideas or where do i start looking?
[09:49] <otalivan> well, I had it installed before but I changed to kubuntu, I tried it and I liked the KDE environment better than Gnome
[09:49] <nosrednaekim> otalivan: are you still using the gnome login manager?
[09:49] <nosrednaekim> otalivan: is the login manager brown?
[09:49] <otalivan> I don't think so, I installed kubuntu using Wubi
[09:50] <otalivan> nooo
[09:50] <otalivan> it's blue
[09:50] <ScorpKing> i think he uses kdm. top will show.
[09:50] <nosrednaekim> ah.. ok :)
[09:50] <nosrednaekim> just checking.
[09:51] <otalivan> the command "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" didn't work because it DOES kill X, only that it doesn't show up a command line, instead I get a black screen with a cursor but no prompt line...
[09:51] <nosrednaekim> try ctrl+alt+f2?
[09:51] <ScorpKing> otalivan: i just got here. what is the problem ur having?
[09:51] <otalivan> I've tried to reboot the computer but I don't know how to get the "boot menu"
[09:52] <otalivan> well I simply want to kill X in order to run the official nvidia driver installer
[09:52] <otalivan> I think I will try ctrl+alt+f2, haven't done it before
[09:52] <nosrednaekim> otalivan: so you can't reboot?
[09:52] <nadrosima> re configure x server
[09:52] <BrightEyes`> what option should i find in my router settings to open ports?
[09:53] <nosrednaekim> !ports
[09:53] <ScorpKing> otalivan: press <esc> when u boot and choose recovery mode. nvidia won't install in runlevel 3 or higher.
[09:53] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall
[09:53] <nadrosima> bright u use linux go set to DMZ
[09:53] <kkathman> otalivan:  you can, by the way, shutdown an X service a couple of ways - at the CLI you can do a sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop (if you get a lock you can delete the lock in the /tmp file
[09:53] <otalivan> I understand that reboot is simply to restart kubuntu, right? I obviously can reboot, but I don't know how to get the "boot menu" once kubuntu starts running, so every time I reboot I alwats get the graphical environment running
[09:53] <nosrednaekim> otalivan: ah! I see.
[09:54] <nosrednaekim> otalivan: must be a wubi thing...
[09:54] <nosrednaekim> otalivan: I think kdm has an otpion to stop the x server.
[09:54] <nadrosima> otivan sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg open pc recovery mode
[09:54] <ScorpKing> otalivan: press <ESC> when it sais Grub Loading...
[09:54] <BrightEyes`> nadrosima: how do i go to DMZ?
[09:54] <nosrednaekim> "command line mode" or seomthing.
[09:54] <kkathman> nosrednaekim:  the command I gave above will stop it I believe :)
[09:54] <blix> when I typed in /list ...does this cause alot of traffic?
[09:54] <nadrosima> dmz a modem setting and u use static ip
[09:55] <BrightEyes`> nadrosima: i dont have such option in my modem/router settings
[09:55] <nosrednaekim> kkathman: yeah..it will but thats not his problem.
[09:56] <nosrednaekim> bye all!
[09:56] <nosrednaekim> work time..
[09:56] <nosrednaekim> :)
[09:56] <kkathman> well yeah I think that his problem and x-server are two things :)
[09:56] <kkathman> bye :)
[09:56] <nadrosima> otivan sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg open pc recovery mode
[09:56] <ScorpKing> the problem is that to install nvidia binary drivers you have to be in runlevel 1 on kubuntu. the only way to get there is from startup. just switching to runlevel 1 once the computer booted will only show the bootsplash image. tty1,2,3.. doesn't work then.
[09:56] <nadrosima> otivan sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg open pc recovery mode
[09:56] <sayers> is there a video player that can play a DVD .iso backup?
[09:57] <nadrosima> scorpking u to
[09:57] <nadrosima> otivan sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg open pc recovery mode
[09:57] <kkathman> ScorpKing:  once you drop to the cli out of KDE you can easily compile and install the driver
[09:57] <kkathman> Ive done that 100s of times
[09:57] <ScorpKing> kkathman: it didn't work for me, but anyway...
[09:58] <BrightEyes`> nadrosima:
[09:58] <kkathman> ScorpKing:  you do have to make absolutely certain that 1) you stop X  and 2) you have all the compile tools
[09:58] <ScorpKing> sayers: one way to do that is to mount the iso as loopback and play it from there.
[09:59] <kkathman> ScorpKing:  then cd to the directory you have your NVIDIA driver file in... sh that file and choose to BUILD/Compile the interface
[09:59] <sayers> ScorpKing: I've done that but there is audio ts video ts and that is a bit harder to play?
[09:59] <ScorpKing> kkathman: is that for the .bin file?
[09:59] <kkathman> well the last time I did the nvidia driver it was an SH file I got directly from the nVIDIA site
[10:00] <ScorpKing> sayers: all dvd's look like that. use kaffine or vlc to play it once it is mounted. you might need some codecs if it complains.
[10:00] <sayers> ScorpKing: so I play both folderS?
[10:00] <ScorpKing> sayers: open the .vob files
[10:01] <sayers> ScorpKing: THere are quite a few
[10:02] <ScorpKing> sayers: there is usually about 4 that is 1gb or so. they will have similar filenames. thats where the main movie is.
[10:02] <sayers> ScorpKing: I think I got it :)
[10:02] <ScorpKing> :)
[10:03] <sayers> !yay | ScorpKing
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yay - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <sayers> :*(
[10:03] <sayers> ScorpKing: Thanks
[10:03] <ScorpKing> lol
[10:03] <AirstrikeIvanov> Kubuntu users, Id advise against trying Compiz Fusion, it seems to fail completely when you try to install it, and #compiz-fusion doesnt want to help.
[10:04] <hjunes> I cannot force wireless assistant to use only one essid :(
[10:05] <ScorpKing> kkathman: the installer wil try to download a kernel and if that fails it will compile one. if ur not in runlevel one it usually say it cant install.
[10:05] <shadowcat> how do you get H.264 decoding working in Kaffeiene?
[10:05] <winbond> hjunes, what do  u mean
[10:05] <kkathman> ScorpKing:  hmmm you have the option - it will ask you if you want to download one - I always say NO and let it compile
[10:06] <ScorpKing> kkathman: :) many ways to do it.
[10:06] <hjunes> winbond, the signal goes up and down, obviously there are packet losses, then an another wireless network is chosen, but another wireless networks(essids) do not work for me.
[10:06] <kkathman> hehe yep - actually just going through the basic instructions on the Restricted Formats...blah is prolly best
[10:07] <AirstrikeIvanov> hjunes: Try configuring the interface manually, instead of using DHCP?
[10:08] <ScorpKing> just for info. those that want to play windows based videos and dvd's in kaffeine will have to install the w32codecs packege. i don't see it in the repos so google for it.
[10:08] <winbond> hjunes, there should be an option to select which network to use bu default, and if you have disconnects then you need to fix the connection, which router do u have?
[10:08] <shadowcat> ScorpKing: what about h.264 decoding?
[10:09] <shadowcat> that's not a windows codec as far as I know
[10:09] <shadowcat> considering that vlc works with it....
[10:09] <hjunes> I would like to forbid the use of other networks and use only my SpeedStream ADSL modem.
[10:09] <blix> what is kubuntu?
[10:09] <ScorpKing> shadowcat: i don't know what that is, but try w32codecs. maybe it works.
[10:10] <ScorpKing> ubuntu linux with KDE
[10:10] <blix> ah right..
[10:10] <blix> is that it?
[10:10] <ScorpKing> yes and it's nicer. :-D
[10:10] <blix> I'm getting used to GNONE
[10:10] <blix> GNOME
[10:10] <ScorpKing> :(
[10:11] <blix> what's so good about KDE?
[10:11] <Tomi-idle> kde is elegant, beautiful, useful & starts with K
[10:11] <ScorpKing> mmm. i like it and it looks great.
[10:11] <blix> why don;t they just scrap the Kubuntu project
[10:11] <blix> and use KDE in the Ubuntu project/
[10:11] <blix> ?
[10:11] <Arwen> KDE isn't braindead
[10:11] <Tomi-idle> blix: why dont they just scrap gnome?
[10:11] <ScorpKing> :( ur not being nice.
[10:12] <Arwen> GNOME just plain can't do anything
[10:12] <blix> Tomi - that is my point
[10:12] <ScorpKing> GNOME is useless. haha
[10:12] <winbond> hjunes, all the networks in range will be visible, u have to set urs as the default
[10:12] <ScorpKing> maybe not. :)
[10:12] <Tomi-idle> blix: glad we got choices is to choose from.someone likes gnome, some like kde. we're on #kubuntu after all
[10:12] <blix> no it's not
[10:12] <blix> I'm using it now, chating to you rioght now
[10:12] <blix> too much choice is bad I think
[10:13] <Tomi-idle> that's open source for ya
[10:13] <ScorpKing> blix: go to #ubuntu :D
[10:13] <blix> no
[10:13] <blix> lol
[10:13] <ScorpKing> lol
[10:13] <waylandbill> too much choice is the essence of open source
[10:13] <blix> it's good in some ways..
[10:13] <Tomi-idle> distros tend to choose mostly the best general software but you can always try other stuff out easily
[10:14] <waylandbill> freedom. That's the only "way" that one should be concerned with.
[10:14] <blix_> someone kick me out/
[10:14] <blix_> ?
[10:14] <Tomi-idle> write /quit
[10:14] <ScorpKing> i think sometimes resources are waisted with having too many of the same opensource programs and products.
[10:14] <Tomi-idle> oh nm
[10:14] <hjunes> winbond, cannot set my SpeedStream as default in Wireless Assistant 0.5.5
[10:14] <Tomi-idle> blix: <-- blix has left this server (Nick collision from services.).
[10:14] <blix_> what I was saying is...if Ubuntu is to become more ubiquitous then it needs standards
[10:15] <waylandbill> noone kicked you out. blix. you got a collision
[10:15] <blix_> otherwise Joe Bloggs will just confused
[10:15] <blix_> collision?
[10:15] <waylandbill> blix has left this server (Nick collision from services.).
[10:15] <Tomi-idle> blix_ well ubuntu (gnome) is the normal install. kubuntu is ubuntu with just different desktop environment. there's still a lot in common
[10:15] <blix_> yeah I'm fully aware of that.
[10:16] <blix_> well I guess Windows does have lots of versions itself
[10:16] <blix_> so Linux is really no different
[10:16] <milian> nabend
[10:16] <Tomi-idle> microsoft tries to stuff those standards up your throat.. we dont want that ^^
[10:16] <Arwen> how does Microsoft stuff anything up your throat?
[10:16] <Arwen> if you don't like it, don't use it
[10:16] <Tomi-idle> then when they decide to change it, the old version wont work anymore
[10:16] <kkathman> Arwen:  good point :)
[10:16] <Tomi-idle> there are situations you gotta use windows.. i.e. schools until i get the convinced
[10:17] <blix_> Tomi - or the new version won't work :P
[10:17] <Tomi-idle> blix_ vista... mmmm
[10:17] <blix_> even with Vista - it's still hasn't kept up with new drivers and etc
[10:17] <runlevelten> Tomi-idle: That's the opposite of a standard.
[10:17] <Tomi-idle> and they're already working on the "7" os
[10:17] <winbond> hjunes, did you try to update?
[10:17] <blix_> 7?
[10:17] <nadrosima> and genune chack hack :P
[10:17] <ScorpKing> Arwen: microsoft don't allow you to change anything if you don't like it. you're stuck with what they give you.
[10:18] <Arwen> ScorpKing, wtf does that even mean?
[10:18] <blix_> I don't think that really matters
[10:18] <Arwen> If you don't like Microsoft software, don't use it.
[10:18] <Arwen> It really is as easy as that.
[10:18] <ScorpKing> lol
[10:18] <blix_> even if Ubuntu was like Microsoft...I don't think people trying to alter the OS would still be a small minority
[10:18] <Tomi-idle> Arwen: it's not that easy
[10:19] <Arwen> Yes. It. Is.
[10:19] <mille_> any one have problems with the feisty-backports
[10:19] <runlevelten> Arwen: Wait until you get a job.
[10:19] <Arwen> mille_, what problem in particular?
[10:19] <Tomi-idle> there might not be software for your specific needs, or the software is awful compared to windows soft.
[10:19] <Arwen> runlevelten, guess what, everything has a consequence.
[10:19] <mille_> i am thinking of enabling them
[10:19] <Tomi-idle> i'd rather go the productive way and use windows if the software would be better for it
[10:19] <Arwen> Tomi-idle, well, go write it yourself. That's what this whole open sores software is about, no?
[10:20] <Arwen> Anyway, I'm tired of people claiming that MS is forcing them to use their software.
[10:20] <winbond> hjunes, sudo apt-get upgrade wlassistant
[10:20] <blix_> Quantas or Screem?
[10:20] <AirstrikeIvanov> Tomi-Idle: If you cant find something or dont like it, Dont use it. Its that simple. We dont have a gun to your head forcing you to use Kubuntu.
[10:20] <Tomi-idle> Arwen: not everyone can code <.< but yeah, i'd have to convince people to write specific software --- and trying to avoid soft patents on the way
[10:20] <kkathman> MS doesnt force anyone to do anything
[10:20] <ScorpKing> Arwen: having a bad day?
[10:20] <Arwen> mille_, QT4 was broken for a few days a while back, but other than that I haven't had a problem with backports.
[10:20] <runlevelten> Arwen: What is restricting the ability to copy and paste text from docx files in the office rtial?
[10:20] <kkathman> last I checked I didnt see a gun to my head
[10:20] <BluesKaj> Vista is deing dissed by their former supporters PC mag and PC world for a slow clunky and bad technology software that doesn't integrate very well even with apps supposedly written for it ...I wouldn't call it a turnaround on the mags part but now linux actaully has a page dedicated the OS :)
[10:20] <Tomi-idle> AirstrikeIvanov: that went 360' pretty fast
[10:20] <mille_> ok thanks arwen
[10:20] <AirstrikeIvanov> About Vista, I wouldnt touch it.
[10:21] <blix_> Vista I would only use for games
[10:21] <blix_> and maybe certain apps
[10:21] <Arwen> BluesKaj, yes, so what?
[10:21] <AirstrikeIvanov> Windows Vista reports everything done to Microsofts quality control. If you do anything they dont like, or for no reason, your Windows will just randomly refuse to start.
[10:21] <blix_> otherwise I am liking Ubuntu
[10:21] <kkathman> i certainly wouldnt install it ... but you dont have much choice... you cant buy a Dell without it now :(
[10:21] <Arwen> *sigh* vista bashing?
[10:21] <kkathman> not bashing - just preferences :)
[10:21] <AirstrikeIvanov> Nah, I just tested it
[10:21] <blix_> but you can buy a Dell with Ubuntu
[10:21] <winbond> hjunes, sudo apt-get upgrade wlassistant
[10:21] <runlevelten> Arwen: You know there are places where you can windows troll to your heart's content.
[10:22] <Arwen> blix_, any of.... 3 models
[10:22] <runlevelten> Digg, for instance.
[10:22] <Arwen> runlevelten, actually, you're the one trolling./
[10:22] <kkathman> Arwen - the truth is, Vista still doesnt support alot of things...and actually thats pretty shameful at this point
[10:22] <hjunes> winbond, that's already feisty fawn
[10:22] <BluesKaj> not bashing Arwen , merely reporting what i read in the editorials of  a couple of pretty influential pc mags
[10:22] <Arwen> It's FUD like what you spew that makes people wary of Open Source Software.
[10:23] <runlevelten> I don't spew any fud at all.
[10:23] <Arwen> And I'm not pushing an opinion on Vista one way or the other. But bashing anything is kind of stupid. If you don't like it, don't use it. Ranting gets nothing done.
[10:23] <runlevelten> I only see you ranting.
[10:23] <blix_> GNOME does suck
[10:23] <kkathman> Arwen - case in point - at our corporate office we have 7 printers on a network - on the vista machine (out of the box) only ONE of those printers were supported (they all were either Xerox or HP printers)
[10:23] <BluesKaj> hehe runlevelten
[10:23] <Arwen> kkathman, yes, and that is on topic... how?
[10:23] <kkathman> so no, thats not FUD
[10:23] <blix_> XP still rules
[10:23] <kkathman> well the whole thing here is off topic I admit :)
[10:24] <kkathman> hehe
[10:24] <AirstrikeIvanov> Yeah
[10:24] <runlevelten> Indeed.
[10:24] <AirstrikeIvanov> Lets go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:24] <blix_> ok
[10:24] <Tomi-idle> kubuntu/xp/ubuntu . in that order
[10:24] <blix_> on my way
[10:24] <Arwen> Either way, MS bashing gets nothing done and only makes OSS look like zealotry.
[10:24] <ScorpKing> ok
[10:24] <eddjc2> hey all
[10:25] <Fusion^> hi. i noticed that whenever i ran compiz fusion, my gpu's temp shoots up to 73c. Is this acceptable? thanks
[10:26] <Arwen> 73c? that's not acceptable for anything
[10:26] <Arwen> get a new fan
[10:26] <Tomi-idle> can you change usb vendor id manually? i'd like to force a webcam to work with another vendors same-ish model
[10:26] <Fusion^> Arwen, really? wish it were that easy. its a notebook...
[10:26] <Tomi-idle> Fusion^: if it's nvidia 7600gt or something like that it's ok
[10:27] <Arwen> Fusion^, heh
[10:27] <Tomi-idle> Fusion^: try to search for your model on the net and get a temperature low/high
[10:27] <Fusion^> Tomi-idle, its a quadro nvs 110m (7300)
[10:27] <eddjc2> amm having a problem with general network dubries in kubuntu - I have a static ip address set up on a router and am able to port forward to an address (i.e 192.168.1.3). How do I set it up so that a) kubuntu has a static ip address and can connect to the internet and b) apache is configured for that ip? I've been messing around ended up causing an ip conflict across my network and yet no other computers ave that ip. When nothing worked I gave up
[10:28] <david__> buona sera
[10:29] <david__> how are you?
[10:30] <Tomi-idle> Fusion^: can't find a specs sheet on it <.<
[10:30] <AirstrikeIvanov> eddjc2: Set up your interface using a text editor on /etc/network/interfaces (as a superuser of course!)
[10:30] <AirstrikeIvanov> eddjc2: From then on, Apache should work fine.
[10:31] <djmaster13> plop all
[10:32] <Fusion^> Tomi-idle, same here. the palm rest are really warm. it's a dell latitude. do you think i should contact them or something. i just doubt that they'd be friendly enough to help since feisty is not supported on the latitudes
[10:32] <djmaster13> !seen Eurky
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen eurky - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <djmaster13> Question rapide avant que j'aille me couch
[10:33] <eddjc2> AirstrikeI: ok I'm there - what should it say?
[10:33] <djmaster13> oups
[10:33] <djmaster13> english sorry
[10:33] <djmaster13> exit
[10:35] <eddjc2> (interfaces that is) - I have auto eth0 (br) iface eth0 inet dhcp
[10:37] <winbond> hjunes, did u update it?
[10:38] <hjunes> winbond, trying to get wlassistant from gutsy
[10:39] <nadrosima> hello ! who know can be open corel12 on with wine ?
[10:39] <winbond> hjunes, did you run the upgrade command i gave you?
[10:40] <Googleheimer> ummm
[10:40] <hjunes> winbond, yep, mine is always upgraded to feisty fawn
[10:41] <winbond> hjunes, run it and check the version ,
[10:41] <Googleheimer> anyone know how to get midi playback...I'm trying to use kguitar and Denemo...kguitar freezes and I get no sound from Denemo
[10:42] <ScorpKing> cheers all!
[10:43] <hjunes> winbond, you mean 0.5.5-0ubuntu5
[10:43] <christoffer> Hey. Anyone who have had succes with installing a SPCA5xx webcam?
[10:43] <Googleheimer> what about acer orbicam?
[10:44] <winbond> hjunes, the latest one is 0.5.7
[10:45] <winbond> hjunes, but if you have pocket loss , you need to change the channel u are using, raise the transmitting power or move the router into a different spot
[10:45] <winbond> hjunes, which router are you using?
[10:46] <voidmage> I can't get kde to recognize and automount my usb thumb drive
[10:46] <hjunes> winbond, yeah i now, I should upgrade to gutsy which have 0.5.7, or, to have wireless-utils-devel to compile from source
[10:46] <hjunes> winbond, I have changed channel and raised my SpeedStream router a bit.
[10:46] <Googleheimer> Gutsy is nice...they finally got some sort of support for the ENE Technologies card readers
[10:47] <hjunes> winbond, wireless-utils-devel is not in Feisty
[10:47] <winbond> hj, im running gutsy, but i really dont like the performance of ubuntu, its been lacking
[10:47] <Fusion^> Tomi-idle, i switched compiz off. im getting 68 - 69c.... what do you think?
[10:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> what processor is this?
[10:50] <SilentDis> hello :)
[10:51] <alejandro_> someone had tried to install cedea 6.0?
[10:51] <Tomi-idle> Fusion^: my 7600gt idles at around 58-60c on stress it can go over 70 easily. but it's a desktop model :/
[10:51] <Tomi-idle> Fusion^: would help if there's specifications for your card
[10:51] <Fusion^> Tomi-idle, that doesn't sound good to me
[10:51] <t3h0wner2> ugh at alsa
[10:52] <Fusion^> Tomi-idle, it would be a 7300
[10:52] <SilentDis> odd question:  My cell provider (Alltel) has a high-speed 'net access option available.  I will finally be able to ditch my crummy dialup!  I intend to drop a little low-powered server in place to do the actual connection, then back to my router, etc.  I have to connect a cell phone to a USB port for the inital connection.  Anyone had any experience doing something like this on an ubuntu server build?  Should I go with 6.06 LTS or 7.04?  any
[10:52] <SilentDis> suggestions at all?
[10:52] <Tomi-idle> Fusion^: nvidia-settings have 115'c as slowdown threshold. so im not worried
[10:52] <Tomi-idle> Fusion^: if you have the binary drivers try nvidia-settings yourself and check if it's a different slowdown temp
[10:53] <t3h0wner2> Anyone have much experience getting the retarded alsa to work for via audio on gateway mx3230?
[10:53] <t3h0wner2> i got it to work on "ubuntu" a while back, but I cant remember what I did...
[10:54] <Fusion^> Tomi-idle, slowdown threshold is 99c
[10:54] <winbond> hjunes, i dont know why u cant set a network as a default, i just used the wlass yesterday on a mint distro and there was a option to automatically use a given network
[10:55] <t3h0wner2> Anyone? What other alsa packages should e installed?
[10:55] <CPrgmSwR2> Can someone help me get the ati-drivers-8.40.4 working
[10:56] <Fusion^> thanks Tomi-idle that's a lot quicker than this tech support guy :)
[10:56] <t3h0wner2> ...?
[10:57] <hjunes> winbond, the problem is when network goes down: a new network is picked up from the list, but i does not work, instead, I would like to deny other networks
[10:58] <hjunes> winbond, typically SpeedStream is chosen, no problem when it is present, just others are not denyable
[11:05] <Karti> Hi all, after a machine crash, is there a log file that can be viewed to see what the issues were?
[11:05] <waylandbill> Karti: /var/log
[11:07] <CPrgmSwR2> This is really odd
[11:08] <CPrgmSwR2> [   60.153864]  [fglrx:firegl_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 5584 using kernel context 0
[11:08] <Karti> waylandbill: thanks, I looked and checked faillog and lastlog and they look to be full of @
[11:08] <Karti> waylandbill: I looked in syslog and it stops at 8am this morning, would this be a good incication that is when the power went etc?
[11:08] <CPrgmSwR2> is it not possible to use the new ati-drivers
[11:14] <waylandbill> Karti: yes. follow the timestamps young padawan. :P
[11:15] <DevideZero> there is an easy way to install compiz fusion ( nvidia ) on kubuntu ?
[11:16] <Karti> lol, yes its a lot easier than the old windows event viewer. I did notice another - syslog.0 and a few that were syslog.gz. My question, master, does the system do this automatically everytime the system starts?
[11:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> does ti create a startup log?  i would imagine so
[11:20] <fabian> Hey guys! Is it possible to boot the kubuntu-installer from a usb-hdd rather than from cd? I do not have a cdrom-drive :(
[11:20] <DevideZero> fabian , yes
[11:20] <CPrgmSwR2> oh cool
[11:21] <CPrgmSwR2> how big does the flash drive have to be?
[11:21] <bhgfhgfd> fabian yes but you will have to set it up though your system bios
[11:21] <fabian> DevideZero: ahh, cool, any howtos describing this?
[11:21] <DevideZero> 700 mb i think ( like the kubuntu cd )
[11:21] <DevideZero> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/01/25/usb-x-ubuntu-610
[11:22] <fabian> bhgfhgfd: my bios is able to boot usb-devices (i am very sure of that :) )
[11:23] <bhgfhgfd> fabian cool beans
[11:23] <Karti> Daisuke_Laptop: Ta
[11:24] <fabian> DevideZero: hum, this tutorial requires windows... for what did you search? I'd look on my own, but I don't really know what to look for...
[11:25] <DevideZero> fabian can you extract iso image ?
[11:25] <CPrgmSwR2> http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-without-cd-or-usb-boot
[11:25] <fabian> DevideZero: well, I would mount it and then just copy from the loopbackdevice?!
[11:29] <travis_> ...
[11:31] <ch40s> my task bar has locked up
[11:31] <travis_> i need help, anyone willing to help me out?
[11:31] <ch40s> any suggestions?
[11:31] <fabian> ch40s: what do you mean, "locked up" ?
[11:31] <travis_> i did the kubuntu install through ubuntu, but i still have the gnome desk top, but i want to try out the kde desk top environment, how the heck do i change it
[11:31] <ch40s> nothing works when i lcick it
[11:32] <ch40s> well
[11:32] <fabian> try pressing alt+f2
[11:32] <fabian> and then enter "killall -9 kicker && kicker"
[11:32] <ch40s> worked
[11:32] <fabian> fine :)
[11:32] <ch40s> what is that?
[11:32] <travis_> so can anyone help me out now?
[11:33] <fabian> it restarts the taskbar (=kicker)
[11:33] <ch40s> ah oh
[11:33] <nosrednaekim> travis_: when you come up to gdm.. the login manager, there should be a menu
[11:33] <nosrednaekim> travis_: or a button to bring up a menu.
[11:33] <travis_> where i put my user name and everything?
[11:34] <nosrednaekim> travis_: yeah.
[11:34] <radioaktivstorm> hello
[11:34] <travis_> ok, and there should be a button to bring up a menu, then what? FYI I still have the ubuntu login screen
[11:35] <nosrednaekim> travis_: click it and there should "sessions" button, click that and you should be able to select KDE
[11:35] <travis_> ah i see
[11:35] <travis_> thanks
[11:35] <julie> hi all
[11:35] <lucian> hello all
[11:35] <nosrednaekim> hello
[11:35] <nosrednaekim> everyone..
[11:36] <radioaktivstorm> i am trying to install the Baghira kubuntu theme according to a tutorial. i have two questions: 1) how do i check the dependencies before i compile, and why isnt my make working?
[11:37] <lucian> i think you have to install "make"
[11:37] <nosrednaekim> radioaktivstorm: heh... there is a baghira package in the repositoried
[11:37] <nosrednaekim> !info kwin-baghira
[11:37] <ubotu> kwin-baghira: KDE theme for Apple junkies :). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-1 (feisty), package size 750 kB, installed size 2132 kB
[11:38] <radioaktivstorm> oh really ?? O_O thank you nosrednaekim
[11:38] <radioaktivstorm> ^_^
[11:38] <nosrednaekim> :)
[11:39] <radioaktivstorm> nosrednaekim,  my computer wasnt able to locate the package
[11:40] <nosrednaekim> radioaktivstorm: you using fiesty?
[11:40] <radioaktivstorm> mmhmm
[11:40] <radioaktivstorm> freshly installed
[11:41] <nosrednaekim> radioaktivstorm: did you do an apt-get update?
[11:41] <nosrednaekim> yet?
[11:41] <radioaktivstorm> i did one when i installed something, but i'll do it again
[11:41] <nosrednaekim> and enable the universe repository
[11:41] <nosrednaekim> in adept_manager
[11:42] <radioaktivstorm> how do i do that in adept? i've been using gnome/xfce... so im a bit new to kde
[11:42] <logixoul> Hi. I'm experiencing this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/136636 - anyone have any ideas offhand or should I just wait? :)
[11:43] <nosrednaekim> radioaktivstorm: inside adept go to Adept->manage repositories
[11:43] <radioaktivstorm> thank you nosrednaekim :)
[11:43] <nosrednaekim> NP
[11:44] <radioaktivstorm> umm..... its not there. the only option available in adept menu is quit
[11:44] <CPrgmSwR2> http://amarok.kde.org/blog/archives/482-Me-vs.-Microsoft-Vengeance-is-Mine!.html <-- funny article
[11:44] <nosrednaekim> radioaktivstorm: is this adept_manager?
[11:45] <radioaktivstorm> oop nope adept_installer. *facepalm* thanks for being patient with me
[11:47] <DevideZero> there is an easy way to install compiz fusion ( nvidia ) on kubuntu ?
[11:48] <fabian> so long, good night everyone!
[11:51] <CaBlGuY> greets everyone
[11:51] <radioaktivstorm> fantastic! the package worked ^_^ thanks nosrednaekim!
[11:51] <CaBlGuY> wondering if anyone can help..
[11:51] <CaBlGuY> ok, can anyone tell me what this error means??  It's coming up now when I try to boot to my freshly updated install to 7.04..   any help would be great--  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36378/
[11:52] <nosrednaekim> radioaktivstorm: great!
[11:52] <CaBlGuY> I've asked in Ubuntu but, no one is answering over there as usual..  :/
[11:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> that, my friend, means it be broke
[11:53] <CaBlGuY> Nooooo....  :O   REALLY???
[11:53] <CaBlGuY> :p
[11:53] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: :)
[11:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> now, on a more helpful note...
[11:53] <CaBlGuY> which would be nice..
[11:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's installed, or live cd?
[11:53] <Karti> CaBlGuY: Try this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279884
[11:54] <CaBlGuY> It's installed..   used to be 6.10 and I just upgraded to 7.04 and when I went to reboot after the install, that came up..
[11:54] <Karti> *Doffs hat to Daisuke_Laptop* Whilst hiding Google page
[11:55] <Karti> CaBlGuY: It gives more advice from the middle downwards
[11:55] <Karti> worth a try
[11:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> hehe
[11:56] <ch40s> my BIOS for the laptop is older than 99
[11:56] <ch40s> what kind of issues will i have?
[11:56] <nosrednaekim> google is our "backend"
[11:56] <nosrednaekim> he who can search best is king
[11:57] <Karti> In the land of the blind, the man with the talking google terminal is king!
[11:57] <Karti> ch40s: Try updating BIOS, though not recommended if you are not sure
[12:00] <dwidmann> Hmm, is anybody else having stability trouble in digikam in gutsy?
[12:00] <GoodHabit> Hello! How to configure VPN at Kubuntu and how-to place it upping at start? And reconnect it when disconnected.
[12:01] <ch40s> Karti: how would i go about updating it? this Thinkpad is anceint
[12:01] <ch40s> ancient
[12:01] <CaBlGuY> *still reading*
[12:01] <nosrednaekim> !VPN
[12:01] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[12:02] <Fusion^> Hi. I have a small problem. I just upgraded to 3.5.7. Now, the shutdown, restart, hibernate and suspend buttons are not appearing on my logout menu. It's just logout that's there
[12:02] <dwidmann> Fusion^: did you log in via kdm or did you startx?
[12:02] <Karti> ch40s: find out the type and manufacturor and follow the website instructions
[12:02] <nosrednaekim> Fusion^: running compiz or beyl?
[12:03] <Fusion^> dwidmann, gdm is my default login manager
[12:03] <Fusion^> nosrednaekim, yes. compiz fusion
[12:03] <Karti> ch40s: Although if you try it with the live disk first, and it works fine, you should have no issues (I believe)
[12:03] <nosrednaekim> Fus
[12:03] <ch40s> ok
[12:03] <nosrednaekim> Fusion^: yeah thats a known bug...
[12:03] <ch40s> seems like it finished loading live screen is black now though
[12:04] <Fusion^> nosrednaekim, any workaround?
[12:04] <nosrednaekim> yes, there is.. I don't know it though..
[12:05] <nosrednaekim> as we say here.... google is king (and your friend)
[12:05] <Karti> ch40s: there are other options on boot. Not sure what they are but if you F1 on the main boot screen then it should help you choose. I had to use -noapic for one of my installs
[12:05] <Fusion^> nosrednaekim, how do i change my login manager from gdm to kdm?
[12:05] <mohamed_> hi, is there translator i can use it in kubuntu , ?
[12:06] <Fusion^> nosrednaekim, i mean, to default
[12:06] <ch40s> ok
[12:06] <nosrednaekim> Fusion^: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"
[12:07] <CaBlGuY> ok, It looks like I may be having a grub issue..  that's what I keep seeing.. so, how would I go about re-installing grub??
[12:07] <Fusion^> thanks nosrednaekim let me try something
[12:07] <nosrednaekim> not stopping you ;)
[12:08] <ch40s> Karti: your referring to the IBM boot screen not the live CD right? i see  no options for noapic
[12:08] <Karti> CaBlGuY: Try this one - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[12:08] <CaBlGuY> *looking*
[12:09] <Karti> ch40s: No, on the Live disk you should see options right at the bottom, F1, F2 and F3 etc
[12:09] <ch40s> ok
[12:09] <waylandbill> ch40s: yes there is. one of the F keys will show you the boot options. It's listed on the bottom of the boot menu screen
[12:09] <hcbox> i removed all fglrx entries... what happend now :)
[12:10] <ch40s> this i know
[12:10] <ch40s> ty guys
[12:10] <Karti> NIght all.....
[12:11] <Fusion^> nosrednaekim, switched the defaul dm to kdm. it restored all the missing buttons. weird...
[12:11] <nosrednaekim> Fusion^: oh well :)
[12:11] <nosrednaekim> great :)
[12:11] <Fusion^> nosrednaekim, i wish there was a better fix than that
[12:12] <ch40s> karti
[12:12] <nosrednaekim> Fusion^: there is... google it up.
[12:12] <waylandbill> probably from unpacking the files from the package.
[12:12] <ch40s> "if  you experience lockups or other hardware failures, disable buggy apic interrupt routing"?
[12:13] <ch40s> so i add the parameter noapic?
[12:14] <evri2> can someone help me about this problem ( http://pastebin.ca/681566 )?
[12:14] <ch40s> acpi=force is required for.... is says before the status bar and kubuntu splash come up on live
[12:15] <hcbox> is the best solution to solve xgl, 3d accel, compiz and anything with 3D issues is to switch ati to nvidia ?
[12:15] <mohamed_> !traansslator
[12:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about traansslator - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:15] <mohamed_> !dictionary
[12:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dictionary - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <engonga> hi gays
[12:17] <nosrednaekim> 0.o
[12:17] <GoodHabit> .
[12:17] <GoodHabit> engonga: We are _not_ exactly.
[12:18] <engonga> i'm open minded
[12:18] <engonga> no problem
[12:19] <WaltzingAlong> i use to be
[12:19] <WaltzingAlong> where does one start when interested in developing an extension for kopete?
[12:19] <NickPresta> WaltzingAlong, the docs, most likely :)
[12:19] <WaltzingAlong> NickPresta: :d
[12:20] <evri2> can any1 help me?I want to install compiz-fusion.Where should i get it?
[12:20] <NickPresta> !compiz | evri2
[12:20] <ubotu> evri2: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:20] <AirstrikeIvanov> Hi everyone. Why cant I install the KDE 4 beta?
[12:20] <nosrednaekim> WaltzingAlong: #kde-devel
[12:20] <CaBlGuY> 7.04 is Fiesty right?
[12:20] <NickPresta> AirstrikeIvanov, what seems to be the problem?
[12:20] <nosrednaekim> !compiz
[12:20] <NickPresta> CaBlGuY, yes
[12:20] <CaBlGuY> and 6-10 was..
[12:20] <WaltzingAlong> AirstrikeIvanov: you can
[12:20] <CaBlGuY> *6.10
[12:21] <AirstrikeIvanov> WaltzingAlong ,NickPresta: I followed the instructions in the topic, but when i try to install kde4libs-dev it responds: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36385/
[12:21] <NickPresta> WaltzingAlong, http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdenetwork/kopete/introduction.html#intro-to-kopete-web
[12:22] <CaBlGuY> !6.10
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 6.10 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <CaBlGuY> edgy?
[12:22] <AirstrikeIvanov> I use Feisty.
[12:22] <CaBlGuY> I'm lookin on the page now..
[12:23] <WaltzingAlong> NickPresta: thanks
[12:23] <NickPresta> AirstrikeIvanov, `sudo apt-get -s install kde4base kde4base-dev` that works for me (simulated of course)
[12:23] <AirstrikeIvanov> Nope, says the same thing.
[12:24] <AirstrikeIvanov> Cept for both packages, and not just kde4base-dev.
[12:25] <CaBlGuY> found the version history on Wikipidia,.  :p
[12:25] <NickPresta> AirstrikeIvanov, hmm. Let me try something
[12:25] <AirstrikeIvanov> I did turn on pinning in my apt preferences, is that a problem?
[12:25] <nosrednaekim> AirstrikeIvanov: you have to enable backports
[12:25] <AirstrikeIvanov> I did
[12:25] <nosrednaekim> or "unsupported updates"
[12:25] <WaltzingAlong> AirstrikeIvanov: could be
[12:25] <AirstrikeIvanov> I turned them on ffs
[12:25] <NickPresta> AirstrikeIvanov, when I go to install them, I don't get any errors.
[12:26] <NickPresta> AirstrikeIvanov, post your sources.list (on pastebin)
[12:27] <AirstrikeIvanov> NickPresta: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36386/
[12:28] <AirstrikeIvanov> wierd, multiverse and universe are commented out, but i can install fom them just fine?
[12:29] <NickPresta> AirstrikeIvanov, have you done a `sudo apt-get update` recently?
[12:29] <AirstrikeIvanov> Yeah, I did after enabling backpots
[12:29] <AirstrikeIvanov> ports*
[12:30] <AirstrikeIvanov> im doing it again now, cause somehow universe and multiverse were commented, so i uncommented
[12:31] <evri2> i have some gutsy packages installed.How can i install feisties again?I cannot remove them because if i try to do,it will remove nearly 1200 packages.
[12:33] <evri2> i needed to install alsa 1.0.1.4 and it was avaliable in gutsy.So i only installed alsa but i think it installed/upgraded some of other packages forexample libc6.
[12:33] <mahdi> NickPresta, nosrednaekim, got my card working. thanks for the help earlier!
[12:35] <AirstrikeIvanov> OH!
[12:35] <AirstrikeIvanov> Now it is letting me install KDE4.