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pwnguinhey, uh, how long do it take to go from uploading to a ppa and having an entry in build status?01:25
pwnguinah, apparently i need to be part of the launchpad-beta-testers team to upload =/01:33
moquistpwnguin: yes01:35
pwnguinwell, that didnt seem nessecary to "activate" my ppa01:37
moquistYeah, I know. I went through the same process today.01:37
pwnguinheh01:37
moquistIf you politely bug kiko (or another LP dev?) and you promise to behave, you can probably become a beta tester.01:38
moquistFujitsu: ah! Great. Makes perfect sense.01:38
pwnguinwell, it's nothing serious. im blocked at the moment by a compiler author who decided to break his language01:39
pwnguini figured in the meanwhile, i should try uploading hello world to my ppa01:43
moquistFujitsu: But I don't think I *have* changed the orig.tar.gz. I could bump the version, but, well, it hasn't changed.01:43
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moquistFujitsu: OK, I guess I changed 'feisty' to 'gutsy' in changelog, and I tried to upload it to ppa...moquist/ubuntu/gutsy instead of ppa...moquist/ubuntu/feisty. Apparently it's not happy with the changelog change... but merely changing the incoming= line in dput.cf didn't make an upload to gutsy happy when changelog still said "feisty".01:55
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moquistI want the same package, same version to be available for feisty & gutsy. I don't understand how I'm supposed to do that.01:56
LaserJockwas it a native package?01:56
moquistyes.01:56
LaserJockthat could be the problem01:58
moquistI don't understand.02:00
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LaserJockwell, I don't know how well LP handles the native packages02:04
moquistReally? Oy. Well, this is beta.02:04
LaserJockand with a native package when you bump the version you get a new tar.gz02:05
LaserJockkinda like getting a new .orig.tar.gz02:05
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ubotuNew bug: #137185 in soyuz "Builds fail due to timestamp differences" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13718504:00
RAOFHey, there's my bug :)04:02
ajmitchwhat, filed a few hours ago?04:03
RAOFNo, 15 mins or so.  Ubotu's lightning fast.04:03
RAOFUgh.04:03
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lifelessspiv: ping05:59
lifelessthumper: ping06:14
thumperlifeless: pong06:15
lifelesscould I impose on you to run the reviewer meeting this arvo?06:16
lifelessI need to be running out right then06:16
thumperlifeless: I was going to tell you I couldn't actually make tonights one :(06:16
lifelessok06:16
lifelessspiv: ping06:16
lifelessperhaps we cancel06:16
thumperperhaps06:16
thumperis jamesh around?06:16
lifelessno06:17
thumperso who would be there?06:17
lifelessBjornT and spiv; if bjorn is back from sprint06:17
thumperlifeless: I say cancel06:17
thumperskip a week06:17
lifelesshopefully I aven't just given people their own branches06:22
lifelesswhen do I get automated allocation per favour06:22
ubotuNew bug: #137198 in launchpad "PPA should not close bugs on upload" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13719806:30
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keiris it still possible to host bzr branches on launchpad?08:43
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keiri can't figure out how to do this, even though i have another project which i've previously set up a launchpad-hosted branch!08:43
keir(though that was months ago)08:44
RAOFYes08:44
keirhow?08:44
RAOFYou can just bzr push sftp://lpnick@bazaar.launchpad.net/~lpnick/project/branchname08:44
keiri only see the ability to register branches, but not create ones hosted on launchpad08:44
keirthis should be made very, very clear when you register the project08:45
keiror when you are looking at the 'trunk' page 08:45
keirit should just say 'to add to trun, bzr push ....'08:45
RAOFI only use launchpad, I don't develop it.  If you think the layout could be better, please file a bug :)08:45
jmlI think there's already a bug about this.08:46
mptkeir, https://help.launchpad.net/CreatingAHostedBranch08:46
mptThat page could do with some interactivity08:47
keireven linking to it from the 'register a branch' page would do08:47
keiror better yet, put it as a link on the sidebar08:48
mptkeir, would you believe that it is?08:48
mptIt's inside the "Help" tab08:48
keirgah! i searched for 10 mins before asking in here08:50
keiris it possible to push branches that don't have a project?08:53
spivkeir: you can use "+junk" as the project if you want08:54
spivWhich is useful for prototypes and things that aren't really fully-formed projects yet.08:55
spiv(You can always move the branch into a project later if it does grow into a real project with bugs, translations, etc)08:55
mptbug 12882808:56
ubotuLaunchpad bug 128828 in launchpad-bazaar "It should be obvious how to upload a branch" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128828 - Assigned to Tim Penhey (thumper)08:56
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carlosmorning09:55
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sorenCodebrowse seems to be acting up: http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~shawarma/ubuntu-dev-tools/submittodebian11:04
sorenI just see the first three lines of an HTTP response.11:05
thumpermwhudson: ^^^11:07
mwhudsonuh11:07
mwhudsonthat's pretty funky11:07
sorenSure is.11:08
sorenDoubly so, in fact.11:09
sorenI get a proper HTTP response whose body is a broken HTTP response (there response code and such is missing from it).11:09
mwhudsonwell, loggerhead is proxied behing apache11:10
sorenmwhudson: I wouldn't be suprised if Apache would act that way if the backend's HTTP response string is broken like that..11:10
mwhudsonso i guess that loggerhead is given broken output and apache is going wtf!?11:10
sorenmwhudson: Yeah, and just forwarding the entire response (not proxying the headers and all that jazz).11:11
mwhudsonhttp://rafb.net/p/x8hHnn29.html11:12
mwhudsoni really like cherrypy, it never gives me any grief11:12
mwhudson(note: may be a lie)11:13
mwhudsonoof11:13
sorenmwhudson: Odd. I don't have a linefeed between the HTTP/1.1 line and the Date: line.11:14
mwhudsonmaybe \n \r\n confusion?11:14
sorenmwhudson: Possibly.11:17
sorenhttp://rafb.net/p/6kDfXg70.html11:18
mwhudsonapache being strange then11:20
mwhudsoni don't understand why apache is giving a 200 rather than a 50x here11:20
sorenI just tested this..11:20
sorenif Apache receives an invalid response from the backend, it seems to just send it back to the client as the body of the response.11:21
mwhudsonhuh11:21
mwhudsonit's not that lenient for cgis, is it?11:21
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sorenProxyBadHeader looks interesting..11:22
sorenhttp://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy.html11:23
sorenIt claims the default is "IsError", but it's acting as if it was "StartBody".11:23
sorenmwhudson: I11:23
mwhudsonanyway, i think i know what the root cause is11:24
mwhudsonbut i don't know why it's provoking such a broken response11:24
sorenmwhudson: Yeah, the backend is clearly acting weird, too, but apache should be giving 502 responses.11:24
mwhudsonlayers of brokeness :)11:24
mwhudsonthere's a data file on the machine that's in a broken format (don't know why)11:25
mwhudsonthis is breaking url traversal in loggerhead (this is easy enough to understand)11:25
mwhudsonthis is causing cherrypy to give a utterly broken http response (don't know why)11:25
mwhudsonand apache is also being a bit strange (you seem to be doing better here than me)11:26
sorenYour apache is doing the same as mine in a situation like that, so at least it's reproducable.11:26
sorenI'm filing a bug right now.11:26
mwhudsoncool11:27
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mwhudsonsoren: ok, codebrowse is back11:54
sorenmwhudson: Cool. Thanks.11:55
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mwhudsonsoren: did you file your apache bug?12:02
mwhudsonsoren: also does "ProxyBadHeader IsError" actually work as expected?12:04
mwhudsoni'd get the sysadmins to put that in the config if so12:04
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tonyyarussoHow much delay is normal between a dput and a package showing up in any state on your PPA?01:16
tonyyarussoOhp, nvm - there it is01:22
tonyyarusso....with the wrong component listed01:24
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tonyyarusso(my fault)01:30
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huatsDoes anybody can help me bit to use ppa ?02:27
huatsI've followed https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart but I still have some questions..02:27
Hobbseeshoot02:28
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huatsHobbsee: ok, on that page it says to upload the signed sources  a file XXX_dsource.changes but I only have _source.changes.... Is it a pb ?02:29
Hobbseehuats: looks like a typo.02:31
huatsHobbsee: ok02:31
Hobbseesource_changes is fine02:31
Hobbseehuats: as long as it doesnt say i386.changes, or simiilar02:31
huatsok, other point : it says (Step4)  to use "in debian/control,  the syntax Section: universe/devel"... Does it means I have to change the current one I have in the debian/control (it is "games")02:33
Hobbseeif you want it to go in universe, you have to use universe/games, yes02:34
huatsok02:34
huatsHobbsee:  that was a bit unclear, but right now I think I understood... thanks02:35
Hobbseeno problem02:35
Hobbseeit's kind of written for packagers, yes.02:35
Hobbseeas in, ones who tend to know a bit about hte ubuntu archive02:35
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tonyyarussoHobbsee: Are you familiar with how to get things built for edgy, dapper, and feisty?  I read a ML post that seemed plausible - testing that now.02:52
Hobbseetonyyarusso: yes.  distro in the changelog02:52
Hobbseeor at least, that's the way it works for upload.ubuntu.com, so tha'ts the way it should work for ppa02:53
tonyyarussoHobbsee: hrm, ok.  The thing I saw was a modification to dput config.02:53
tonyyarussoReally wish there was a way to delete things too...02:53
Hobbseeah yes.  that will probably work as wlel02:53
tonyyarussoHobbsee: I changed the versioning scheme when I better understood how it should be, but my new one is marked "PendingRemoval" because the previous one was "higher".02:54
Hobbseetonyyarusso: right, yeah02:55
tonyyarussoHobbsee: How can I fix that/02:55
tonyyarusso?02:55
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Hobbseeer, epoch, i guess.02:55
Hobbseeor just bump the version number.  ie, 0.57~really0.5602:56
tonyyarussowow, ugly hack02:56
tonyyarusso:(02:56
Hobbseesarah@LongPointyStick:~/Desktop$ dpkg --compare-versions 0.57~really0.56 lt 0.57 && echo true02:56
Hobbseetrue02:56
Hobbseeboth are ugly, yes.02:57
Hobbseeone's a more long term solution than the other02:57
tonyyarussoHow long until deletion is supported?  Three weeks or so?02:57
Hobbseesarah@LongPointyStick:~/Desktop$ dpkg --compare-versions 0.57~really0.56 gt 0.56 && echo true02:57
Hobbseetrue02:57
Hobbseeno idea, but people will have downloaded your packages now, remember02:57
Hobbseeyou cant rely on deletion02:57
tonyyarussoNobody's downloaded it yet, that's why I'd like to fix it now.02:58
tonyyarussoCan a LP admin manually remove things?02:58
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Hobbseeyes, and i think they were adding a delete.03:00
Hobbseeeventually03:00
Hobbseeit's all a WIP, remember03:00
tonyyarussoof course03:00
tonyyarussoI'm just amused that such a simple feature is still pending :P03:00
tonyyarussoHobbsee: The PendingRemoval one won't even be built, will it?03:01
Hobbseeunsure, i dont know the innards of soyuz03:04
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KuhrscherHmm, is definitively nobody willing to do this little favor for us translators: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2007-August/001903.html03:15
Kuhrscher:(03:15
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tonyyarussoodd03:24
tonyyarussoSo I uploaded for feisty, then tried for dapper, and got "This sourcepackagerelease is already accepted in dapper.", but it's not.03:24
ubotuNew bug: #137275 in launchpad "The help for product release implies RSS is available" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13727503:25
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tonyyarussokiko: do you have a moment to answer some PPA questions?03:38
kikotonyyarusso, I might if they are easy. :)03:39
tonyyarussoheh03:39
tonyyarussokiko: 1) is it possible for LP admins to manually remove uploads even though we don't have an end user interface for doing so yet?  2) How does one get a package built for dapper, edgy, and feisty?  (it's been rejecting what I've tried)03:40
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kikotonyyarusso, 1) not yet, but in 1.1.9 it will. 2) you don't right now, but if you complain loud enough we might consider adding support for it (I think the chroots are the problem. or something else. I'm still waking up :)03:41
tonyyarussokiko: Oh....sad03:41
kikoI thought that was all good news!03:42
tonyyarussoWell, long-term it is - for this week it's not03:44
tonyyarussokiko: I know you can get things built for a different release, since I just had one done for feisty instead of gutsy, so it doesn't seem like a technical limitation - it just won't let you build the same package on more than one.03:46
tonyyarusso(without doing weird stuff with the version naming)03:47
elmotonyyarusso: you have to do weird version stuff03:47
elmotonyyarusso: compiling for dapper gets you a very different package to compiling for gutsy03:47
elmoso you can't just use the same version number03:48
tonyyarussoelmo: Shouldn't the syntax of the line used for my PPA in a user's apt/sources.list take care of which one they get, since that specifies the release?03:48
Hobbseetonyyarusso: uh, of course it wont.03:48
elmo(because that would lead to files with the same filename but different contents which is a) evil and wrong, b) confuses the hell out of apt)03:48
elmoarguably soyuz could recompile your uploads for different suites and change the version on the fly for you03:49
elmobut I think that should be on demand, not a default thing03:49
tonyyarussohmm03:49
elmoit's rare for the build-depends to even work across dapper -> gutsy, unless the package has specifically been made with that kind of 'backporting' in mind03:50
tonyyarussotrue03:50
Hobbseetonyyarusso: because things are dumped into pool/<letter>/<packagename>/, with no difference in version name.03:51
tonyyarussoelmo: so what is the recommended weird version stuff?03:52
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tonyyarussoI suppose it would need to be something that would accomodate dist-upgrades within the PPA as well as additions of it officially into the Ubuntu repos.03:54
elmotonyyarusso: err, I'm not sure what current practice is - I've seen various schemes, mostly appending .n.nn (e.g. .6.06 or .6.10) etc. to the base version03:55
tonyyarussoelmo: presumably after the ~ppa1 though, as in ~ppa1.6.06, so that any in-repo inclusion would override it?03:55
elmotonyyarusso: sure, I guess03:59
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Davieyelmo: I'm trying to get hold of you in #canonical-sysadmin ;)04:11
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Odd_BlokeHey guys, we're working on a library in a number of different languages ATM.  Is the best way to represent this within LP as a project group with a separate project for each of the implementations?05:41
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ro_bini forgot my e-mail address that i have been registered to the launchpad, can you help me?05:47
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intellectronicaro_bin, do you mean you forgot which email you used?05:59
intellectronicaOdd_Bloke: sounds like a good idea, but I guess it also depends on the structure of your team and project06:01
intellectronicaOdd_Bloke: if all the work is done together and by the same people, many projects just use the same project / repository, but if you really have the same kind of division within your project then using project groups might make sense06:03
Odd_Blokeintellectronica: We've mostly had one or two people do all the work for each language...06:09
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intellectronicaOdd_Bloke: and how do they use SCM? do they all have access to a central repository or do you use a distribued system like bzr or the equivalent?06:10
intellectronicaOdd_Bloke: are you planning on using code hosting for your project, or do just import your current repository from svn or cvs?06:11
intellectronicaOdd_Bloke: basically (and that's my personal opinion, i'll still try to ask around and see if there are official guidelines) I think that one project, with many branches, would be enough for a library, but it really depends on how you manage (or plan to manage) your project06:13
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Odd_Blokeintellectronica: Currently we all use a single SVN repo, which would be mirrored in the short term.  Hopefully we'll migrate to bzr at some point, but I don't know when that point will be.  How would the assignment of bugs to different implementations work if all of them were just branches in the same project?06:18
intellectronicaOdd_Bloke: bug assignment will all be in the same project, but if you use bzr branches (even if only for development and then you merge them into your main svn repo) you can associate a branch with a bug, to show that this particular branch has the changes for fixing the bug06:19
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kikoro_bin, yes. register with another email address and tell me what the original user was.06:21
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jkakarIs there a way to include the assignee in the bug list?  I'm trying to survey a list of bugs and determine (A) who's doing them and (B) if they unassigned.  The milestone view does this, but these particular bugs aren't in a milestone yet.07:44
kikojkakar, not currently, no.07:45
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jkakarkiko: Do you know if there's a bug filed about that?07:48
Lureamd64 ppa build fails due to time of files in package http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9119962/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-amd64.kdepim_4:3.5.7enterprise20070904-0ubuntu1~ppa~lure1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz07:48
kikojkakar, mmmmm MAYBE.07:48
Lurei386 seems to be ok07:48
jkakarkiko: Heh.  I'll search, ta.07:48
radixThere's a bug for "configurable columns"07:53
radixor something07:54
radixI reported it I think07:54
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radix(^^jkakar)07:56
jkakarradix: Ah, thanks.07:56
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ubotuNew bug: #137326 in launchpad-answers "Difficult to find out where to ask questions" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13732608:10
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ubotuNew bug: #137328 in malone "Removing a CVE link from bug page/view not possible" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13732808:20
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andrewIs it just me, or has launchpad been slow recently?10:00
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tonyyI've been trying to test PPA, but for some reason my package failed to build for dapper, while succeeding for feisty and edgy.  The difference seems to be with kompozer-dev, around the string "pkgstriptranslations", near the end of the log.10:05
tonyyIt mentions no version given in the Depends field.  The thing confusing me most atm is why it would fail only for one release.  Please see https://launchpad.net/~tonyyarusso/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all .  Any ideas?10:05
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tonyyI'm going to go try some things, but I'll be back if anyone comes up with anything.10:14
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kikoandrew, not sure -- working fine for me.10:23
andrewkk10:23
kikotonyyarusso, dapper isn't supported.10:23
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mptkiko, is that written anywhere (other than the logs of this IRC channel)?10:24
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mptand on that note10:31
mptGooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!10:31
kikomorning10:31
kikompt, I'm not sure, but if you checked I'd appreciate it :)10:32
mpt8-] 10:32
kikoanything to make me work less10:32
mpt"Wiki: MatthewPaulThomas, MatthewPaulThomas, MatthewPaulThomas"10:34
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mptok, that isn't so useful10:35
kikompt, not prefixing with the wikiname is crazy :)10:35
mptWhat's crazy is storing wiki names in Launchpad, I think10:35
mptThey're none of Launchpad's business10:35
kikomaybe... hmm10:37
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mptIf they were really "contact details", I could understand it10:40
mptbut IMO it would make more sense to have a field for someone's Facebook ID than their wiki name.10:41
mpt(Not that we should have a field for someone's Facebook ID, I'm just using it as a comparison.)10:41
ubotuNew bug: #137361 in launchpad "Presentation of wiki names is repetitive and obscure" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13736110:45
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ymlhello launchpaders,10:48
kikohey yml 10:49
ymlI  am starting to work with launchpad and I am finding it a bit difficult to get started. Happily you have been a create support so far10:49
ymlhello Kiko, you are one of my heros  :-)10:50
ymlon the road of my journey to get fluent in developping with launchpad I am facing a new unknown situation10:51
kikoah, you're welcome10:51
kikowhat's the next question?10:51
ymlKiko, for your information my provider is working on trying to fix the pb I had yesterday10:51
ymlthank you for you time and your email10:51
ymltoday the strory is at the other end of the chain10:52
kikoyml, sure thing.10:52
ymlIn between I get burned with symlink10:52
ymlThis is half solved 10:53
ymlafter trying to be as cunning as a fox by using a plugin win32-symlink10:53
ymlI solve it the had way bzr remove --keep blabla10:54
yml;)10:54
ymlback to my problem10:54
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radixkiko: what exactly do you mean by "dapper isn't supported"? :)10:58
ymlon my computer (windows) I had several branches so what I did was bzr branch from my launchpad repository to create a new branch reflecting the modification I have done on the computer hosted by my provider. after several merges I would like to push back the enhancement to launchpad. so I did : bzr push sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~yml-nospam/django-survey/main-yui10:58
kikoradix, you can't build PPA packages against dapper.10:58
radixok, that's extra clear! thank you.10:58
radixIs that planned to be changed?10:58
beunoyml, you need to do:  bzr push sftp://yml-nospam@bazaar.launchpad.net/~yml-nospam/django-survey/main-yui10:59
kikoradix, we might consider changing it, there was a conversation with elmo on this channel today about exactly this.10:59
kikoradix, there's a new LTS around the corner though!10:59
ajmitchkiko: 9 months away?10:59
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kiko:)10:59
ymlbeuno pardon me this is what I did. I type it by memory10:59
ajmitchwell, should be only 7-8 months now10:59
radixkiko: certain projects *cough* have a requirement to support dapper :)10:59
radixkiko: but cool, I'll read the scrollback11:00
radixkiko: thanks for the heads up11:00
kikoradix, you're welcome.11:00
ymlbzr is telling me that there is no revision to push11:00
kikoyml, that the remote branch is already up to date?11:00
ymlwhen I look the history there : https://code.launchpad.net/%7Eyml-nospam/django-survey/main-yui11:01
ymlthe latest modification are not there11:01
ymlalso I try to create a new branch from there and I found out that the modification was not there11:02
kikoyml, did you forget to commit your changes? :)11:03
ymlI have already corrected that mistake  :)11:04
ymlhere it is my local history : http://dpaste.com/18595/11:05
ymlthey are not the same.11:05
ubotuNew bug: #137363 in soyuz ""Activate Personal Package Archive" page scrolls terms of use out of sight" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13736311:06
ymlYesterday I had also a strange situation where I had to branch with the same name on launchpad 11:07
ymland it seems that sometime today the latest one has been remove to main-yui211:07
beunoyml, those look the same to me11:08
beunolocal <> LP11:08
beunoboth are at revision 6211:08
ymlIs there a cache or something that make this history page not being refreshed?11:10
beunoyml, it takes a few minutes11:10
kikoboth are at 62. that's true. :)11:11
ymlAt least 10 minutes, isn't it11:11
ymlgrrrrr11:11
yml;-)11:11
ymlis there a way to browse the code a bit like on code.google.com?11:12
kikoyes11:12
ymlgood news11:12
ymlwhere?11:12
kikoit's linked from the branch page IIRC11:12
kikocodebrowse.launchpad.net11:12
ymlbeuno, kiko again thank you for your kind support11:14
ymlI start to get use to launchpad I have to say that it is a bit like ZOPE11:15
beunoyml, you're welcome11:15
beunoyml, actually, if I'm not mistaken, LP is based on zope  :D11:16
mptyml, there's a reason for that ;-)11:16
ymlas user friendly11:16
yml|-)11:16
ubotuNew bug: #137368 in soyuz "Launchpad makes it unreasonably difficult to learn what a PPA is" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13736811:20
mdkecan someone add me to the beta tester team pls?11:21
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mdkeoh, either someone did that really fast or I'm already a member...11:25
ubotuNew bug: #137369 in soyuz ""activate you PPA" should be "activate your PPA"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13736911:25
mdkesorry, or thanks11:25
mdkecan indirect members of a team upload to a team PPA? (I assume so)11:29
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ubotuNew bug: #137373 in launchpad "Error message for using a blocked project ID is awkward" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13737311:30
mptkiko, why does PPA work for 6.10 but not 6.06 in the first place? That seems like an odd choice11:31
mpt(I am getting around to reporting that bug about documenting it, I've just been distracted by finding several other bugs on the way)11:32
kikomthaddon, is it easy to set up a ramdisk on balleny?11:33
mthaddonkiko, on a call - can you give me a few mins?11:34
kikomthaddon, sure thing.11:34
kikowrong channel too. :)11:34
ubotuNew bug: #137375 in launchpad ""Further information" box on project registration page is out of date" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13737511:40
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ubotuNew bug: #137377 in soyuz "Not obvious which distribution series PPA works for" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13737711:46
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tonyyDid anyone happen to come up with an answer to my PPA build error question from earlier?11:48
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kikotonyy: we don't build for dapper.11:48
tonyykiko: At all?  How come?11:49
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kikotonyy: long story. it's a technical limitation right now; we can reconsider provided we get enough feedback that it's important.11:49
kikotonyy: if you look at the channel logs elmo had a chat about this earlier today.11:50
tonyykiko: Okay, thank you.  Good to know it's not me messing something up again.  :)11:50
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kikorarely do users /really/ mess up, unfortunately11:50
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kiko-afkas mpt would tell you 11:50
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ubotuNew bug: #137385 in malone "OOPS changing the bug target to None" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13738512:00
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_gpg_Is the plan *still* to open Launchpad? When?12:06
_gpg_or at lest where can i find launchpad specification please ?12:07
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beunoaw...12:12
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_gpg_i can still see messages i sent in earlier 1964 !12:30
_gpg_good night/day every one12:30
ubotuNew bug: #137391 in launchpad-bazaar "Cannot rename or rm on ftp" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13739112:35
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mpt_gpg_, yes, the plan is still to open Launchpad12:40
mptThere is no public specification about it12:40
_gpg_mpt ty12:46

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