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[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #137161 in tsclient (main) "[Gutsy]  tsclient vnc password dialog isn't accessible with compiz" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137161
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #137162 in python-launchpad-bugs (main) "[gutsy]  python-launchpad-bugs fails to upgrade to 0.2.1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137162
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[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #137163 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Kernel Bug with QuickTime Camera" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137163
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #137164 in ubuntu "Selecting Playing audio CD in context menu doesn't work (with Kscd and Amarok)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137164
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #137166 in debian-installer (main) "lvm config outputs vg freespace in 10**6, inputs in 2**20" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137166
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #137168 in hplip (main) "hplip needs dependency on python-qt3" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137168
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[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #137169 in ubuntu "Evolution Mail Junk folder will not clear with "Expunge"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137169
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[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #137171 in debian-installer (main) "re-install with md(raid) in same place uses old raid data" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137171
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[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #137175 in debian-installer (main) "Installer "Forgets" Partition FS info on enter/exit RAID or LVM Config" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137175
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[03:01] <ubotu> New bug: #137179 in glibc (main) "2.6.1-1ubuntu3 makes apps crash with Bus error" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137179
[03:11] <ubotu> New bug: #137180 in ubuntu "gutsy can not mount root filesystem (device or resource busy)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137180
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[03:43] <ubotu> New bug: #137182 in restricted-manager (restricted) "bcm 4306 can't install driver through restricted device manager" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137182
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[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #137186 in firefox (main) "can't undo fullscreen command (F12)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137186
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #137187 in linda (main) "autopkgtest gutsy linda: erroneous package!" [High,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137187
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[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #137188 in gdm (main) "Server name '0' not found; using standard server" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137188
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[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #137190 in ubuntu "Ideal packages management system\installed.Everyone can dream, right?" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137190
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[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #137191 in update-manager (main) "package update-manager 1:0.69 failed to install/upgrade: failed to fstat previous diversions file" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137191
[05:36] <ubotu> New bug: #137192 in gdm (main) "system frozen at login screen, 2 gdm instances " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137192
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #137193 in hal (main) "PCI 802.11b card not detected" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137193
[05:46] <ubotu> New bug: #137194 in displayconfig-gtk (universe) "displayconfig-gtk crashes on Test" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137194
[06:06] <ubotu> New bug: #137195 in hal (main) "USB scanner" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137195
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #137196 in ubuntu "X fatal crash on Feisty live CD boot" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137196
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[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #137197 in ekiga (main) "ekiga crash with Logitech Camera (gspca module) on Aser Aspire 5560" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137197
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[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #137200 in gnome-terminal (main) "E:il pacchetto virtualbox deve essere reinstallato ma non si riesce a trovare un archivio per esso" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137200
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[07:00] <DJ_Stefan0> I don't know if this is the right channel for my case, but I installed kubuntu 7.04 on my PS3 using the alternate CD, i booted using /boot/vmlinux initrd=/boot/initrd.img root=/dev/sda1 from kboot and the USB ports completely turn off when i reach the KDM login screen :|
[07:01] <DJ_Stefan0> perhaps if i use the sh shell from kboot i can change some of the configuration files so the USB power cant be turned off ?
[07:02] <DJ_Stefan0> because when i installed gentoo beta3 it didnt have any of these problems, but its kernel is out of date and my local rsync servers are too slow :p
[07:03] <DJ_Stefan0> any ideas?
[07:04] <DJ_Stefan0> now they just randomly started working again :| .. lag?
[07:06] <ubotu> New bug: #137201 in smbc (universe) "smbc crashes on feisty x86_64 with segfault" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137201
[07:06] <ubotu> New bug: #137202 in ubuntu "try booting with the noapic" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137202
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[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #137205 in vim-latexsuite (universe) "[gutsy]  latexsuite doesn't load in vim after install" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137205
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #137206 in ubuntu "[gutsty]  access to shutdown windows from tray green men button icon freeze Gnome" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137206
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #137207 in dolphin (main) "No extract command on pop-up menu in Dolphin" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137207
[07:51] <ubotu> New bug: #137203 in gedit (main) "search adds slash to escaped strings" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137203
[07:51] <ubotu> New bug: #137204 in ubuntu "kdm crash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137204
[07:56] <ubotu> New bug: #137208 in ubuntu "KPDF crashes opening a PDF (Konqueror too if opened from it)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137208
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[08:26] <kagou> morning
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[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #137209 in firefox (main) "Menus don't work properly during and after full screen mode. " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137209
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[08:56] <ubotu> New bug: #137210 in python2.5 (main) "Python : help('modules') fails. Package Togl missing on Gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137210
[08:56] <ubotu> New bug: #137211 in iso-codes (main) "please sync with Debians iso-codes 1.4-1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137211
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[09:19] <dholbach> good morning
[09:19] <thekorn> good morning dholbach
[09:20] <dholbach> hey thekorn
[09:21] <dholbach> is eric butler in here?
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[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #137221 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "No icons for attachment" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137221
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[10:11] <dholbach> thekorn: does apport-retrace work for you now?
[10:12] <seb128> ohhhhh
[10:12] <ubotu> New bug: #137222 in adept (main) "Adept description field is wrong" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137222
[10:13] <seb128> the retracers are still running, good :)
[10:13] <thekorn> dholbach: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36286/
[10:13] <thekorn> can you please try this patch,
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[10:22] <dholbach> thekorn: it says that it can't find CoreDump Package ExecutablePath in the crash file
[10:22] <dholbach> let's see which attachment of the bug it's downloading
[10:23] <thekorn> that's ok!
[10:23] <thekorn> the problem is that this testcase is already retraced
[10:23] <thekorn> so apport-retracer removed Coredump.gz
[10:23] <dholbach> the _usr_bin_kblueplugd.1000.crash file on the bug has those fields
[10:23] <dholbach> also if you download that file and run apport-retracer on it, it doesn't find those values in it either
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #137224 in d4x (universe) "[FTBFS]  d4x" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137224
[10:33] <thekorn> dholbach: hmm, how do I run apport-retracer on an .crash file?
[10:34] <BugMaN> hi dholbach! :)
[10:36] <dholbach> apport-retrace <file>
[10:36] <dholbach> hey BugMaN
[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #137226 in minicom (main) "autopkgtest gutsy minicom: erroneous package!" [High,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137226
[10:46] <dholbach> seb128: do you have an example crash file where you know apport-retrace works right on?
[10:46] <dholbach> seb128: we get "report file does not contain required fields: CoreDump Package ExecutablePath" for a lot of them
[10:46] <dholbach> seb128: thekorn says that it also happens with 0.76.1 from feisty
[10:47] <seb128> dholbach: no, I don't use apport-retrace, I usually unpack and attach gdb to the CoreDump to get a backtrace
[10:47] <seb128> dholbach: do you have an example of one not working correctly?
[10:47] <dholbach> get the crash file from 135893
[10:48] <dholbach> it always gives "report file does not contain required fields: CoreDump Package ExecutablePath"
[10:48] <dholbach> even if you run it manually on the crash file
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #137227 in ubuntu "Gnome Dictionary can't find localhost dictionary" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137227
[10:57] <seb128> dholbach: that's a python crash, there is nothing to retrace
[10:58] <dholbach> do you have a valid one?
[10:58] <dholbach> with all those three fields?
[10:59] <dholbach> mine seem to all lack either CoreDump or Package
[11:00] <dholbach> most of them lack Package
[11:01] <thekorn> i will try bug 136508
[11:01] <ubotu> Bug 136508 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/136508 is private
[11:02] <seb128> dholbach: wait
[11:02] <seb128> dholbach: not really likely in fact, the retracer is doing its job correctly nowadays, you need to be faster than it ;)
[11:03] <seb128> otherwise it deletes the CoreDump after retracing
[11:03] <dholbach> i was checking my local crash files
[11:08] <seb128> dholbach: right, apport-retrace seems to be borked
[11:09] <seb128> and I didn't apply the upgrades from yesterday
[11:09] <dholbach> ok
[11:09] <dholbach> then it wasn't due to the py-lp-bugs change
[11:09] <dholbach> all is fine then
[11:10] <dholbach> thekorn: seems we did what we could
[11:10] <dholbach> and it still does download attachments
[11:10] <dholbach> so we're all set
[11:10] <seb128> k, now it works
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #137228 in desktop-file-utils (main) "Use ooo-calc instead of gnumeric" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137228
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[11:11] <dholbach> seb128: what works now? what did you do?
[11:12] <seb128> I don't how to convert the dump to a formatted one
[11:12] <seb128> dholbach: well, the dump is something fast
[11:12] <seb128> when you "touch crash" you get the apport dialog
[11:12] <dholbach> right
[11:12] <seb128> when you click to send it it's doing the formatting work (the progress bar jump while it's working)
[11:12] <seb128> after that step you can retrace it
[11:13] <seb128> I just don't know what command to run manually to do it
[11:13] <seb128> I just touch-ed a crash
[11:13] <seb128> selected to send it
[11:13] <seb128> cancel
[11:13] <seb128> and retrace works on the .crash now
[11:13] <dholbach> nice
[11:13] <dholbach> thekorn: so we didn't b0rk it :)
[11:13] <dholbach> I'll try that too
[11:14] <thekorn> dholbach: but there is an other bad typo in launchpad.py :(
[11:15] <dholbach> thekorn: ok?
[11:15] <dholbach> what is it?
[11:15] <thekorn> let me check, give me some minutes
[11:15] <dholbach> ok
[11:15] <thekorn> we somehow always get login-errors
[11:15] <thekorn> from lp
[11:15] <dholbach> is that on private bugs?
[11:15] <thekorn> yup
[11:16] <ubotu> New bug: #137229 in happydigger (universe) "[FTBFS]  happydigger" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137229
[11:16] <ubotu> New bug: #137230 in gaim (main) "gaim internet messenger is not coming in ubuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137230
[11:16] <thekorn> argh, Bug.authentication and BugList.auhentication
[11:16] <dholbach> hum, can't find that in the apport source
[11:16] <thekorn> and not authentification
[11:16] <dholbach> or is that in py-lp-bugs?
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[11:18] <dholbach> neither in py-lp-bugs nor bughelper
[11:18] <thekorn> no in apport/chrash_impl/launchpad.py
[11:19] <thekorn> dholbach: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36293/ is the diff
[11:20] <dholbach> ok thanks - applied
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[11:20] <thekorn> thanks a lot
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #137231 in vim-syntax-gtk (universe) "vim-addon-manager should be a dependency" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137231
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[11:26] <ubotu> New bug: #137232 in gdebi (main) "Tell user how to start the installed application" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137232
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[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #137233 in apache2 (main) "ProxyBadHeader defaults to StartBody, but should default to IsError" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137233
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[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #137235 in lilo-installer (main) "Kubuntu 7.10 Tribe 5 does not allow LILO-install" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137235
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #137236 in ion3-mod-xinerama (main) "[FTBFS]  ion3-mod-xinerama" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137236
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[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #137238 in ubuntu "feisty crashes on "changer d'utilisateur"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137238
[12:01] <ubotu> New bug: #137239 in ubuntu "compiz and metacity should behave the same way" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137239
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #137240 in tikiwiki (universe) "tikiwiki installation failure" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137240
[12:15] <dholbach> http://daniel.holba.ch/sponsoring/ works again
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #137241 in evince (main) "Evince printing in reverse sheet order + multipage yields strange ordering" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137241
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #137243 in ubuntu "[gutsy]  Bibus doesn't start" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137243
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #137244 in less (main) "less-pager does not update when window is resized" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137244
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[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #137245 in myspell-lv (main) "autopkgtest gutsy myspell-lv: erroneous package!" [High,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137245
[12:51] <ubotu> New bug: #137246 in gnome-panel (main) "Tell user how to start the newly installed application" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137246
[12:51] <ubotu> New bug: #137248 in myspell-sl (main) "autopkgtest gutsy myspell-sl: erroneous package!" [High,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137248
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[12:56] <ubotu> New bug: #137247 in pam-keyring (universe) "libpam-keyring broken on autologins" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137247
[12:56] <ubotu> New bug: #137249 in dir2ogg (universe) "dir2ogg dependency faad" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137249
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[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #137250 in timeoutd (universe) "timeoutd not effective in Gnome" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137250
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #137251 in ubuntu "[gutsy]  "the hardware clock does not contain a valid time", so fsck is run at boot" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137251
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[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #137252 in ubuntu "Generic kernel does not scale down CPU frequency" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137252
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #137253 in music-applet (universe) "Tooltip over time is empty" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137253
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #137254 in ubuntu-meta (main) "No boot-time logs exists at this time in Gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137254
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #137255 in ipe (universe) "[FTBFS]  ipe" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137255
[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #137258 in ubuntu "xdvi alternative is broken in gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137258
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[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #137260 in language-support-he (main) "autopkgtest gutsy language-support-he amd64: erroneous package!" [High,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137260
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[01:46] <ubotu> New bug: #137259 in jack-rack (universe) "[FTBFS]  jack-rack" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137259
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[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #137261 in gutenprint (main) "epson R265 an R270 are not supported by gutsy " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137261
[02:09] <cowbud>  /join #Python
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[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #137263 in auctex (main) "auctex is uninstallable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137263
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[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #137262 in kaconnect (universe) "[FTBFS]  kaconnect" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137262
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[02:33] <davmor2> does anyone run seahorse?
[02:36] <ubotu> New bug: #137264 in ubuntu "Alternate installer: selection of timezone" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137264
[02:36] <ubotu> New bug: #137265 in runit-services (universe) "package runit-services 0.3.0 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137265
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #137267 in ubuntu "Alternate installer: entering mountpoints" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137267
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[02:46] <Nafallo> yes
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #137269 in kazehakase (universe) "[FTBFS]  kazehakase" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137269
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #137271 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  Package request for CouchDB" [Wishlist,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137271
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #137272 in ubuntu "Alternate install-cd 7.04: offline-installation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137272
[02:56] <davmor2> Nafallo: was that yes to me?
[03:00] <Nafallo> yes :-)
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[03:01] <davmor2> if so can you confirm a bug in it for me please.  go into edit preferences
[03:02] <davmor2> select the keyserver tab and hi-light automatically retrieve keys from keyserver
[03:02] <davmor2> close the prefs then look at it again and see if it has stayed hi-lighted?
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[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #137273 in ubuntu "Installer: option to selective install of locale-data" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137273
[03:08] <Nafallo> hi-light?
[03:09] <Nafallo> ticked?
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[03:21] <davmor2> Nafallo: yes and then is it still ticked when you check again
[03:22] <Nafallo> no
[03:23] <Nafallo> so confirmed.
[03:23] <Nafallo> bugnr?
[03:23] <davmor2> thanks
[03:26] <ubotu> New bug: #137274 in gnome-commander (universe) "Gnome-commander: loss of graphical informaiton" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137274
[03:26] <ubotu> New bug: #137276 in gdm (main) "gdmthemetester : eval: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137276
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[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #137277 in kreetingkard (universe) "[FTBFS]  kreetingkard" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137277
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[03:55] <ubotu> New bug: #137279 in nicotine (universe) ""Abort & Delete" button mislabeled" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137279
[03:55] <ubotu> New bug: #137280 in ldtp (universe) "[FTBFS]  ldtp" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137280
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[03:59] <bddebian> Boo
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #137281 in seahorse (universe) "Seahorse's Automatically retrieve keys doesn't stay ticked" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137281
[04:06] <ubotu> New bug: #137282 in konserve (universe) "[FTBFS]  konserve" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137282
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[04:11] <ubotu> New bug: #137284 in muse-el (universe) "Please merge muse-el 3.11-2ubuntu1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137284
[04:13] <ScottK> bddebian: Beep
[04:15] <bddebian> Heya ScottK
[04:16] <ubotu> New bug: #137286 in language-pack-kde-ru (main) "language-pack-kde-ru BROKEN TRANSLATION" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137286
[04:16] <ubotu> New bug: #137287 in lock-keys-applet (universe) "[FTBFS]  lock-keys-applet" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137287
[04:17] <ScottK> Hey bd.
[04:17] <ScottK> Ergh.
[04:17] <ScottK> heya bddebian
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[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #137288 in openmash (universe) "[FTBFS]  openmash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137288
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[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #137290 in ubuntu "dist-upgrade feisty to gutsy fails" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137290
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[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #137291 in gdpc (universe) "Please sync gdpc (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137291
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[05:01] <ubotu> New bug: #137292 in kdegraphics (main) "kghostview crashes on zooming pdf" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137292
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #137293 in sbackup (universe) "emty dialog when restoring with sbackup" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137293
[05:18] <thekorn> dholbach: I created a new py-lp-bugs python2.4 branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~thekorn/python-launchpad-bugs/main.py2.4 ,
[05:18] <thekorn> will do some testing tomorrow
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[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #137296 in debian-installer (main) "LAMP installation crashes" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137296
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[05:26] <dholbach> thekorn: you ROCK
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[05:36] <ubotu> New bug: #137070 in bind (universe) "BIND version 8 generates cryptographically weak DNS query identifiers" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137070
[05:36] <ubotu> New bug: #137178 in ubuntu "Ubuntu crashes when performing multiple tasks" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137178
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[05:44] <ubotu> New bug: #137297 in easytag (universe) "easytag ignores proxy settings in manual search" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137297
[05:50] <dholbach> thekorn: bughelper-server is currently running
[05:51] <dholbach> thekorn: looks good - only one crash up until now ;-)
[05:51] <dholbach> I'll point http://daniel.holba.ch/bugs to it, once it's done
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[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #137302 in nautilus-sendto (main) "Pidgin plugin missing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137302
[06:10] <bdmurray> hggdh: No, there isn't an evolution team.
[06:10] <hggdh> bdmurray: k. is there an interest in creating one?
[06:12] <bdmurray> hggdh: I think if there were a couple of people interested in focusing on Evolution bugs it would be worthwhile to create a team.
[06:12] <hggdh> k. So far, to my knowledge, its just me, so lets wait a bit more. Thank you.
[06:13] <bdmurray> hggdh: I think working with upstream closely, by forwarding bugs and finding out what information they need to better debug issues would be valuable
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[06:17] <hggdh> bdmurray:, yes, I have been doing it for a while, on my spare time. Given the amount of Evo bugs, this is really necessary
[06:18] <thekorn> dholbach: one crash? - would be nice if you could poste the bughelper-server.log
[06:19] <bdmurray> hggdh: Perhaps a debugging procedures page for Evolution be helpful for others then?
[06:19] <thekorn> and the traceback
[06:19] <dholbach> thekorn: I'll do that once it's done
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #136694 in ubuntu "switch user does not remove access to previous user" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136694
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #136703 in ubuntu "my laptop stop when i open various programs" [Wishlist,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136703
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #137304 in openjade (main) "autopkgtest gutsy openjade: erroneous package!" [High,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137304
[06:27] <dholbach> have a nice evening
[06:27] <dholbach> thekorn: don't work too long :)
[06:27] <thekorn> haha!
[06:27] <thekorn> almost sleeping :)
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[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #136743 in ubuntu "Home folder permissions" [Wishlist,Won't fix]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136743
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #137306 in dpkg (main) "[gutsy]  update-alternatives --quiet problem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137306
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[06:36] <ubotu> New bug: #137307 in xserver-xgl (universe) "Xgl very slow, even when running only metacity (Intel i810)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137307
[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #137308 in file-roller (main) "Closing archive in /tmp deletes any opened files" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137308
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[06:49] <hggdh> bdmurray: good idea -- I will start on one. Now a more prosaic question: where should such a page be?
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[06:50] <bdmurray> hggdh: It should be probably use the same namespace as the ones at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures
[06:51] <bdmurray> hggdh: so DebuggingEvolution seems best
[06:51] <hggdh> bdmurray: k. WIll look at it, then. Thanks.
[06:51] <bdmurray> hggdh: Thank you, I'd be happy to look at it / review it if you want
[06:52] <hggdh> bdmurray: and I happily accept your offer ;-)
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[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #136602 in ubuntu "No sound at all on Targa traveller 1577X2" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136602
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[07:06] <zurn> hi there
[07:07] <zurn> anyone have a crc-error system halted problem on boot after the latest kernel upgrade?
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[07:11] <ubotu> New bug: #137311 in kdebase (main) "kcontrol-modules are broken" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137311
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[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #137312 in gdb (main) "gdb on ppc often remains stuck in call___do_global_ctors_aux" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137312
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #137313 in alpine (universe) "[gutsy]  alpine displays times in 12h format in the message list" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137313
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #137315 in openoffice.org (main) "Formulas will not re-size in Open Office Writer" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137315
[07:21] <ubotu> New bug: #137314 in e2fsprogs (main) "blkid shows outdated / wrong UUID " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137314
[07:21] <ubotu> New bug: #137316 in ubuntu "dvipdfm with mangled Type 1 font" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137316
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #137018 in ubuntu "ala ma kota" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137018
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #137317 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Kernel 2.6.20-16 Update corrupting packages in Feisty" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137317
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #137318 in ubuntu "python-launchpad-bugs unmet dependencies" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137318
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #137319 in ubuntu "Wrong modules after Aug 31 2007 updates" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137319
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[07:36] <ubotu> New bug: #137320 in iscsitarget (universe) "iscsitarget install fails" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137320
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[07:51] <ubotu> New bug: #137322 in gnome-icon-theme (main) "Logoff icon is misleading" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137322
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[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #137324 in update-manager (main) "Upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 failed when writing to /var/cache/apt/archives" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137324
[08:03] <ScottK> bdmurray: I'm looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates and find that the sru-verification team needs to bless SRUs and that you are one of the two members.  If you would please have a look at Bug #118659.  There are multiple reports of the fix being good.
[08:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 118659 in pycurl "PyCurl 7.15.5 not working on AMD64" [Medium,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118659
[08:06] <bdmurray> ScottK: I have the hardware to verify it but I could use a test case.
[08:08] <ScottK> bdmurray: Looking at bug comments 14/15 it seems that the program referenced could be run with/without the patch.  I don't have AMD64 myself.
[08:12] <bdmurray> ScottK: Okay, I see how that might work but it seems that step 4 of the Propose section of StableReleaseUpdates wasn't really followed
[08:13] <ScottK> bdmurray: I can see that.  I'm a lot more familiar with the Universe process where anyone can test it.
[08:14] <ScottK> I just noticed it because I get all the bugmail for Python packages and it seemed like it was pretty reasonable.
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[08:15] <ubotu> New bug: #137327 in ubuntu "Suspend inoperative from Login screen" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137327
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[08:20] <ScottK> bdmurray: Can I comment in the bug what needs to be done before it's eligible for verification?
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[08:21] <bdmurray> ScottK: That would be great.  I briefly looked at that preferredsearch thing and it looked like it would take a fair bit to setup
[08:22] <ScottK> So I should ask for a reduced test case?
[08:22] <bdmurray> From what the original reporter said it sound like a simple script would create a good test case.
[08:23] <ScottK> OK.  I'll ask for something then.
[08:24] <bdmurray> I'm happy to do the verification I just can't spend a lot of time on it.
[08:25] <ScottK> Understand.
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #137325 in ubuntu "test bug, please ignore" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137325
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #137329 in openoffice.org (main) "Problem with hyperlinks in Open office" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137329
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[08:31] <ScottK> bdmurray: Commented.  We'll see what that produces.
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[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #137330 in ubuntu "[UVFe Sync Request]  wireshark 0.99.6rel-3" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137330
[08:36] <ubotu> New bug: #137331 in ubuntu "X mouse cursor missing in Gutsy Tribe 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137331
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #130108 in compiz-fusion-plugins-main (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in animGetOptVal()" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/130108
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #137332 in service-discovery-applet (universe) "[Gutsy]  Service-Discovery-Applet shows no services found" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137332
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[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #137333 in ubuntu "installation crash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137333
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #137334 in gambas (universe) "gambas crashes on x86_64 system" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137334
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[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #137337 in krb5 (main) "Please sync krb5 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137337
[08:56] <ubotu> New bug: #137336 in eog (main) "     " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137336
[08:56] <seisen> When a bug is a feature request what do you mark it as? Do you mark it invalid or what?
[08:57] <ScottK> Wishlist
[08:57] <ScottK> If it's insane, Invalid is fine.
[08:59] <seisen> I don't have that option, then what do I do.
[08:59] <seisen> It will let me change it to invalid, confirmed, fix released but no wishlist
[09:00] <ScottK> As for someone in ubuntu-qa to mark it wishlist if you think it's a reasonable request.  Yes, wishlist is a priority, not a status.
[09:00] <ScottK> As/Ask
[09:00] <ubotu> New bug: #137338 in ubiquity (main) "installation crash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137338
[09:00] <seisen> OK thanks
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[09:06] <seisen> How do I get a hold of Ubuntu-qa team?
[09:06] <ScottK> Mostly by asking for someone in ubuntu-qa for something right here.
[09:07] <ScottK> Note: I'm in ubuntu-qa so ask your question.
[09:08] <lakin> Hey guys, where is that link on how to build ubuntu packages with debug symbols?
[09:09] <lakin> Specifically, firefox?
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #137339 in ubuntu "They must include BlueProximity in repositories" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137339
[09:13] <seisen> Ok thanks for letting me know for future reference and what exactly do you guys consider insane so I am not bother you guys all the time.
[09:14] <ScottK> It's a judgement call.
[09:14] <ScottK> Please rewrite package X so it comes with a pony is invalid.
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #137340 in base-installer (main) "Gutsy tribe-5 installer doesn't suggest a suitable kernel for Via C3 CPU - but there is one" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137340
[09:16] <albert23> I have tested bug 3988 and in my opinion it can be closed as fix-released. Could somebody check if my response is sufficient to close this bug?
[09:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 3988 in partimage "Partimage-server crashes (need Debian merge?)" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/3988
[09:17] <seisen> What if somebody wanted an option to install LILO instead of Grub when they are doing a fresh install to me that sounds legitimate?
[09:18] <seisen> So would that be a good reason to bother you guys
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[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #137341 in kdebase (main) "HP LaserJet 1000, 1018 and 1020 are not listed in KDE Print Manager" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137341
[09:25] <bdmurray> albert23: yes, that looks good to me
[09:27] <albert23> bdmurray: Thanks, I will close it. Should I say something about backports, like the wiki bugs-responses says?
[09:28] <bdmurray> Yes, that seems appropriate.
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #137342 in kdebase (main) "'Open Driver' dialog of 'Add Printer' wizard should indicate the expected extension (ppd)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137342
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #137343 in ubuntu "feisty life cd does not create bootrecord" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137343
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #137344 in gnome-panel (main) "can't log into hd where ubuntu was installed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137344
[09:31] <albert23> It depends on a number of libraries with minimum versions. Is there a way I can/should check if backporting to Edgy/Dapper is possible?
[09:32] <ScottK> bdmurray: I would like to discuss your backports standard answer as in many cases it's wrong.
[09:33] <ScottK> Backports is not for fixing SRU worthy or security issues.  Problems like that bug (which was a crash bug) should be fixed via SRU.
[09:37] <ubotu> New bug: #137345 in kdebase (main) "'Open Driver' dialog of 'Add Printer' wizard should accept .ppd.gz" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137345
[09:40] <bdmurray> ScottK: I understand your point regarding this being SRU worthy.  Looking at the bug there actually seem to be conflicting reports about whether or not it is broken in Dapper.
[09:41] <ubotu> New bug: #137346 in xserver-xorg-video-psb (main) "xorg psb driver requires newer EXA" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137346
[09:41] <ScottK> Right.  But IIRC the standard answer says suggest backports.
[09:41] <ScottK> I'm more worried about the standard answer than this particular case.
[09:42] <ScottK> Because then I get the joy of won't fixing someone's backports request because it really should be an SRU...
[09:44] <bdmurray> So to make sure we are on the same page - the "Fixed in Development release" stock reply should have a subsection about SRU worthy bugs and if not SRU worthy then mention backports?
[09:45] <ScottK> Yes.
[09:45] <ScottK> Backport sis for features and minor bugs.
[09:45] <ScottK> sis/is
[09:46] <ScottK> That was pretty clear (as I understand it) when the Tech Board chartered -backports and made them 'official'.
[09:49] <bdmurray> I'm not sure that stock reply is "mine", but I'll get it sorted out.
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[09:53] <ScottK> bdmurray: THanks.
[09:54] <albert23> ScottK bdmurray: I am afraid the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU does not say how a user can request the SRU
[09:55] <ScottK> albert23: The first step is to nominate the bug for a particular release.
[09:56] <albert23> OK, will do that
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[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #137349 in memprof (main) "Memprtoof does not work - upstream fix avialible" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137349
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[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #137350 in youtube-dl (universe) "Please sync youtube-dl (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137350
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #137352 in ubuntu "indexers keep processor usage at 100%" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137352
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[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #137353 in update-manager (main) "update-manager does not report version information" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137353
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[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #137354 in missingpy (universe) "sparc build fails with "[test-ghc6]  Bus error"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137354
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[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #137356 in ubuntu "7.10 life disk - gparted" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137356
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[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #137357 in kdebase (main) "Konqueror does not open archives itself any more" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137357
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[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #137359 in sound-juicer (main) "Songs with accented letters in title are not ripped" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137359
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[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #137364 in ubuntu "Synaptic upgrade all fails due to dependency problems" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137364
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #137365 in schroedinger (universe) "Please sync schroedinger (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137365
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #137366 in banshee (universe) "Please sync banshee (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137366
[11:07] <ionstorm> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/34902 should be criticle since belkin is used by thousands, if not millions of people
[11:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 34902 in ubuntu "Ralink Wireless legacy drivers (rt2500 rt61 rt73 rt2570) USB/PCMCIA/PCI hangs PC" [High,Confirmed] 
[11:07] <ionstorm> critical*
[11:07] <ionstorm> i havnt been able to even plug in my card since tribe 1
[11:07] <ionstorm> thousands will have the same issue
[11:08] <ionstorm> its "high" define high
[11:09] <ScottK> Also that bug was filed on 2006-03-14 and so this is not a new problem.
[11:10] <ScottK> We've done three releases since then, so I don't think it's viewed as critical.
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[11:14] <ionstorm> well then thousands of people wont even be able to boot ubuntu who have that device
[11:19] <bdmurray> ionstorm: which particular device is that?
[11:19] <ionstorm> bdmurray, its a usb wifi card
[11:19] <ionstorm> and its new, but not too new
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[11:20] <ionstorm> it made me switch back to fiesty
[11:21] <bdmurray> Are you one of the commentors on that bug report?
[11:22] <ionstorm> yes
[11:22] <ionstorm> this is my bug report on another
[11:22] <ionstorm> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/130078
[11:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 130078 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Gutsy Gibbon 2.6.22-9-generic Kernel Panic when inserting belkins F5D7050 USB wifi card/rt73 driver" [Undecided,Incomplete] 
[11:22] <ionstorm> can u link it together
[11:22] <ionstorm> i got rid of gutsy because I could not provide proof
[11:22] <ionstorm> i dont have a camera
[11:23] <ionstorm> and the bug wouldnt be logged in the boot log
[11:24] <ionstorm> i cannot provide any proof, it completely locks up my computer as soon as I plug it in
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[11:24] <ionstorm> others are experiencing related problems
[11:25] <ionstorm> its a kernel issue
[11:26] <bdmurray> Does someone else expreriencing the same problem have more information about the kernel panic?
[11:27] <ionstorm> no because it completely locks up the system
[11:27] <ionstorm> and doesnt show up in logs
[11:27] <ionstorm> and no proof will be found unless someone takes a snapshot with a camera
[11:27] <ionstorm> and i dont have one
[11:27] <ionstorm> :(
[11:28] <ionstorm> so ubuntu will be useless for me and many others for a while
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[11:28] <ionstorm> i bought my whole family this wifi card and nobody can use ubuntu gutsy
[11:29] <ionstorm> its a cheap popular card
[11:29] <ionstorm> works great
[11:29] <ionstorm> i dont know why it doesnt work on ubuntu gutsy, it works fine on the kernel.org kernel
[11:29] <ionstorm> and 2.6.22 with ck patchset
[11:29] <ionstorm> but not the gutsy kernel
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[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #137372 in gnome-main-menu (universe) "gnome-main-menu installs an executable in /usr/lib/gnome-main-menu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137372
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #137374 in ubuntu "resumes from hibernation after normal shutdown" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137374
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #136485 in gparted (main) "gparted crashed with SIGSEGV in Glib::SignalProxyNormal::slot0_void_callback()" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136485
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #137378 in xfburn (main) "Please move xfburn to universe" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137378
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[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #137376 in ubuntu "[gutsy]  Logging into Gnome makes xorg restart" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137376
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #137379 in kde-guidance (main) "package kde-guidance-powermanager 0.8.0svn20070727-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137379
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #137380 in xubuntu-system-tools (main) "[gutsy]  please remove xubuntu-system-tools from the archive" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137380
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #137381 in linux-meta (main) "package linux-restricted-modules-generic 2.6.22.10.11 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137381
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #137383 in ubuntu "list_lists crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137383
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #137384 in debconf (main) "frontend crashed with SIGSEGV in abort()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137384
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #137386 in glade-3 (main) "(gutsy) glade 3, gnome DB icons all blank" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137386
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[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #137388 in ubuntu "LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set when it shouldn't be" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137388