[12:09] <Flannel> Thats what we expected.   I think.  Or at least for the former.
[12:09] <RickH> okay
[12:09] <Flannel> So, go ahead and do it without the simulate, see if it works.
[12:09] <RickH> Now how do I revert from .31 to .29?
[12:09] <Flannel> If it doesn't work, and everything explodes, you'll still have your -15
[12:09] <Flannel> sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:09] <RickH> okay
[12:09] <Flannel> erm, dist-upgrade maybe
[12:09] <Flannel> I suppose it doesn't matter
[12:10] <RickH> rick@rick-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:10] <RickH> Reading package lists... Done
[12:10] <RickH> Building dependency tree
[12:10] <RickH> Reading state information... Done
[12:10] <RickH> Calculating upgrade... Done
[12:10] <RickH> The following packages have been kept back:
[12:10] <RickH>   linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic
[12:10] <RickH> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[12:10] <RickH> rick@rick-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:10] <RickH> Reading package lists... Done
[12:10] <RickH> Building dependency tree
[12:10] <RickH> Reading state information... Done
[12:10] <RickH> The following packages have been kept back:
[12:10] <Flannel> right, it should be the same.
[12:10] <RickH>   linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic
[12:10] <RickH> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[12:10] <RickH> how can I find out if I'm back to .29?
[12:12] <Flannel> apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic
[12:13] <RickH> rick@rick-desktop:~$ apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic
[12:13] <RickH> linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic:
[12:13] <RickH>   Installed: 2.6.20-16.31
[12:13] <RickH>   Candidate: (none)
[12:13] <RickH>   Package pin: (not found)
[12:13] <RickH>   Version table:
[12:13] <RickH>  *** 2.6.20-16.31 1001
[12:13] <RickH>         500 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Packages
[12:13] <RickH>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Packages
[12:13] <RickH>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[12:14] <Flannel> Hmm.  Did you save your preferences file?
[12:14] <RickH> Yes.
[12:14] <RickH> I've re-edited it by typing the gksu line again.
[12:14] <RickH> It comes back up.
[12:14] <RickH> rick@rick-desktop:~$ gksu gedit /etc/apt/preferences
[12:15] <Flannel> Well, shucks.  I have no idea.
[12:15] <Flannel> You'll have to ask someone who knows more about it than I do.
[12:16] <nalioth> whoa
[12:16] <RickH> okay.
[12:16] <Flannel> Luckily, nothing we did will affect your -15 version kernel
[12:16] <Flannel> nalioth: Have I been doing it all wrong?
[12:16] <nalioth> pastebin works a LOT better for help, guys
[12:16] <RickH> Except it doesn'tw ork with xserver
[12:16] <nalioth> it allows folks who are late to the party to see the pastebin when they arrive
[12:16] <nalioth> repeatedly pasting the same crap to irc channels is totally pointless
[12:17] <Flannel> I agree.  I suppose I didn't really notice all the paste.
[12:17] <Flannel> RickH: usually if it's more than about two lines, you pastebin it.
[12:18] <RickH> So what do I do?
[12:18] <RickH> Am I resigned to buying a new hard drive and installing Linux there and starting over?
[12:19] <Flannel> All because your sound doesn't work?  Worst case is you either use -15 with sound,or -16 without sound for a few days until the regression is worked out.  You did file a bug report about the regression, ddn't you?
[12:19] <RickH> nope
[12:19] <RickH> the problem just happened today and I came here first.
[12:19] <Flannel> RickH: ah, Well, launchpad might already have a workaround for all we know
[12:19] <RickH> For all I know, I did something to break it.
[12:21] <Flannel> RickH: But, you'll have to get someone elses help on that, I've gotta run
[12:21] <RickH> thanks, Flannel
[12:22] <RickH> nalioth:  There were only two of us here actively during the pasting.  I did not paste a tremendous amount.  We used pastebin for some stuff.
[02:26] <jrib> hi
[02:26] <Soskel> hey jrib
[02:26] <Soskel> http://texticle.net/index.php?show=44
[02:26] <Soskel> I get that
[02:26] <jrib> pastebin your vmx
[02:26] <jrib> what is the location of the .iso you want to use?
[02:26] <Soskel> http://texticle.net/index.php?show=45
[02:26] <Soskel> the location of the ISO?
[02:27] <Soskel> What do you mean?
[02:27] <jrib> you need a .iso or a cd to install your OS, do you have one of those?
[02:27] <Soskel> I have a black dvd
[02:27] <Soskel> *blank
[02:27] <jrib> what OS are you installing?
[02:27] <Soskel> windows 3.1
[02:28] <Soskel> I don't actually own windows 3.1
[02:28] <jrib> so you have a cd with windows 3.1 then?
[02:28] <jrib> then you can't use windows 3.1...
[02:28] <Soskel> are you joking?
[02:28] <jrib> ask microsoft
[02:28] <Soskel> what channel?
[02:28] <jrib> ...
[02:28] <Soskel> wait
[02:28] <Soskel> would it be possible to buy it?
[02:29] <jrib> I guess if someone sells it
[02:29] <jrib> why do you want windows 3.1?
[02:29] <Soskel> the same reason people want them model T's
[02:30] <jrib> heh :)
[02:31] <Soskel> thank you so much for trying to help me
[02:31] <jrib> Soskel: you can try installing ubuntu or another linux distro like debian from a .iso for practice
[02:31] <Soskel> bahahaha
[02:31] <Soskel> ok
[02:31] <Soskel> I want slackware
[02:31] <jrib> get the iso for it and create a .vmx that looks for that iso
[02:32] <Soskel> ok
[02:32] <Soskel> wait
[02:32] <Soskel> will it actually install on my system?
[02:32] <jrib> it installs it to a file
[02:33] <jrib> then when you run the virtual machine that file acts as the hard drive
[02:33] <Soskel> ohh
[02:33] <jrib> nothing happens to your system
[02:33] <Soskel> cool
[02:34] <Soskel> jrib: http://slackware.mirrors.easynews.com/linux/slackware
[02:34] <Soskel> witch one do I download?
[02:35] <jrib> never played with slackware so your guess is as good as mine
[02:35] <Soskel> for helping me, I will send you $10 via paypal
[02:35] <jrib> nah, don't worry about it
[02:35] <jrib> put it towards ubuntu bounties if you want :)
[02:36] <Soskel> :)
[02:36] <Soskel> what do you recommend?
[02:36] <jrib> I'd go with the latest
[02:37] <Soskel> I mean for a distro
[02:37] <jrib> ubuntu!
[02:37] <Soskel> hehe
[02:37] <Soskel> I use that as my primary os
[02:37] <Soskel> that is what I am using right now
[02:37] <Soskel> it is also my dev server
[02:39] <jrib> when you recreate the .vmx file use the "easyvmx" button on the left on the website and make sure you enable using the .iso as a second cdrom
[02:41] <Soskel> ok, I got a distro
[02:41] <Soskel> dsl