[12:09] Thats what we expected. I think. Or at least for the former. [12:09] okay [12:09] So, go ahead and do it without the simulate, see if it works. [12:09] Now how do I revert from .31 to .29? [12:09] If it doesn't work, and everything explodes, you'll still have your -15 [12:09] sudo apt-get upgrade [12:09] okay [12:09] erm, dist-upgrade maybe [12:09] I suppose it doesn't matter [12:10] rick@rick-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [12:10] Reading package lists... Done [12:10] Building dependency tree [12:10] Reading state information... Done [12:10] Calculating upgrade... Done [12:10] The following packages have been kept back: [12:10] linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic [12:10] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. [12:10] rick@rick-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade [12:10] Reading package lists... Done [12:10] Building dependency tree [12:10] Reading state information... Done [12:10] The following packages have been kept back: [12:10] right, it should be the same. [12:10] linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic [12:10] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. [12:10] how can I find out if I'm back to .29? [12:12] apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic [12:13] rick@rick-desktop:~$ apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic [12:13] linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic: [12:13] Installed: 2.6.20-16.31 [12:13] Candidate: (none) [12:13] Package pin: (not found) [12:13] Version table: [12:13] *** 2.6.20-16.31 1001 [12:13] 500 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Packages [12:13] 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Packages [12:13] 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status [12:14] Hmm. Did you save your preferences file? [12:14] Yes. [12:14] I've re-edited it by typing the gksu line again. [12:14] It comes back up. [12:14] rick@rick-desktop:~$ gksu gedit /etc/apt/preferences [12:15] Well, shucks. I have no idea. [12:15] You'll have to ask someone who knows more about it than I do. [12:16] whoa [12:16] okay. [12:16] Luckily, nothing we did will affect your -15 version kernel [12:16] nalioth: Have I been doing it all wrong? [12:16] pastebin works a LOT better for help, guys [12:16] Except it doesn'tw ork with xserver [12:16] it allows folks who are late to the party to see the pastebin when they arrive [12:16] repeatedly pasting the same crap to irc channels is totally pointless [12:17] I agree. I suppose I didn't really notice all the paste. [12:17] RickH: usually if it's more than about two lines, you pastebin it. [12:18] So what do I do? [12:18] Am I resigned to buying a new hard drive and installing Linux there and starting over? [12:19] All because your sound doesn't work? Worst case is you either use -15 with sound,or -16 without sound for a few days until the regression is worked out. You did file a bug report about the regression, ddn't you? [12:19] nope [12:19] the problem just happened today and I came here first. [12:19] RickH: ah, Well, launchpad might already have a workaround for all we know [12:19] For all I know, I did something to break it. [12:21] RickH: But, you'll have to get someone elses help on that, I've gotta run [12:21] thanks, Flannel [12:22] nalioth: There were only two of us here actively during the pasting. I did not paste a tremendous amount. We used pastebin for some stuff. === RickH [n=rick@c-68-58-106-180.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Ex-Chat"] === Flannel [n=flannel@76.176.22.229] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Crusher [n=You@ppp121-45-171-186.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-20-34.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Soskel [n=Soskel@unaffiliated/soskel] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:26] hi [02:26] hey jrib [02:26] http://texticle.net/index.php?show=44 [02:26] I get that [02:26] pastebin your vmx [02:26] what is the location of the .iso you want to use? [02:26] http://texticle.net/index.php?show=45 [02:26] the location of the ISO? [02:27] What do you mean? [02:27] you need a .iso or a cd to install your OS, do you have one of those? [02:27] I have a black dvd [02:27] *blank [02:27] what OS are you installing? [02:27] windows 3.1 [02:28] I don't actually own windows 3.1 [02:28] so you have a cd with windows 3.1 then? [02:28] then you can't use windows 3.1... [02:28] are you joking? [02:28] ask microsoft [02:28] what channel? [02:28] ... [02:28] wait [02:28] would it be possible to buy it? [02:29] I guess if someone sells it [02:29] why do you want windows 3.1? [02:29] the same reason people want them model T's [02:30] heh :) [02:31] thank you so much for trying to help me [02:31] Soskel: you can try installing ubuntu or another linux distro like debian from a .iso for practice [02:31] bahahaha [02:31] ok [02:31] I want slackware [02:31] get the iso for it and create a .vmx that looks for that iso [02:32] ok [02:32] wait [02:32] will it actually install on my system? [02:32] it installs it to a file [02:33] then when you run the virtual machine that file acts as the hard drive [02:33] ohh [02:33] nothing happens to your system [02:33] cool [02:34] jrib: http://slackware.mirrors.easynews.com/linux/slackware [02:34] witch one do I download? [02:35] never played with slackware so your guess is as good as mine [02:35] for helping me, I will send you $10 via paypal [02:35] nah, don't worry about it [02:35] put it towards ubuntu bounties if you want :) [02:36] :) [02:36] what do you recommend? [02:36] I'd go with the latest [02:37] I mean for a distro [02:37] ubuntu! [02:37] hehe [02:37] I use that as my primary os [02:37] that is what I am using right now [02:37] it is also my dev server === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@84.13.126.88] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:39] when you recreate the .vmx file use the "easyvmx" button on the left on the website and make sure you enable using the .iso as a second cdrom [02:41] ok, I got a distro [02:41] dsl === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Crusher [n=You@ppp121-45-37-214.lns10.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jenda [n=jenda@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.jenda] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Crusher [n=You@ppp121-45-13-194.lns10.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@84.13.126.88] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Stoned_Vibration [n=WP-Gast@p578b76da.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Crusher [n=You@ppp121-45-166-41.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === needle [n=nevle@cust2347.vic01.dataco.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === neuratix [n=lorents@static149-194.adsl.no] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === needle [n=nevle@cust2347.vic01.dataco.com.au] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Leaving"] === neuratix [n=lorents@static149-194.adsl.no] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jenda [n=jenda@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.jenda] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp71-148.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === duese [n=Ident@p5B03D5C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === neuratix_ [n=lorents@static149-194.adsl.no] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@84.13.126.88] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === neuratix_ [n=lorents@static149-194.adsl.no] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === neuratix_ [n=lorents@static149-194.adsl.no] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === neuratix_ [n=lorents@static149-194.adsl.no] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp71-148.adsl.forthnet.gr] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === never|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #ubuntu-classroom