[01:15] <Daviey> or the mysql command "DELETE FROM program;"  ; but make sure you have a good bacup first
[01:16] <defendguin> i like how myth weather now works before i upgraded to 20.2 it never worked
[01:17] <Daviey> yeah.. there was a temp fix to use weather.com
[01:17] <defendguin> i like how it even has the radar in there
[01:17] <defendguin> thats pretty awesome
[01:17] <defendguin> way better than booting up the wii to use it for weather
[01:21] <defendguin> Daviey: sweet it worked shows are now being listed at the correct times
[01:22] <mikeb23930> Does/will Mythbuntu support the Hauppauge HVR-950 usb hybrid analog/hdtv tuner?
[01:23] <Daviey> mikeb23930: Have you tried it?
[01:24] <Daviey> Sounds like there could be audio issues..
[01:24] <mikeb23930> I have been trying to get it to work in Kubuntu but not much success.
[01:24] <Daviey> But the picture works, it seems
[01:25] <Daviey> mikeb23930: you might need to follow http://lunapark6.com/usb-hdtv-tuner-stick-for-windows-linux-hauppauge-wintv-hvr-950.html
[01:26] <mikeb23930> I did.  At least I tried to follow lunapark twice.  The best I got was a very poor quality analog connection with no sound.  No digital at all.  XP finds four digital channels.
[01:26] <Daviey> hmm
[01:28] <mikeb23930> I'm just shooting in the dark trying to get the driver installed and working.
[01:28] <mikeb23930> That's why I was hoping Mythbuntu might ship with drivers.
[01:28] <Daviey> mikeb23930: I'm sorry, but i have no experiemce with the HVR-950
[01:28] <mikeb23930> OK.  Thanks for your help
[01:29] <Daviey> mikeb23930: trouble is, we can't add support without knowing there is a problem..
[01:29] <Daviey> and it's hard for us to come up with a fix, as we don't have the hardware
[01:29] <mikeb23930> I understand.
[01:29] <Daviey> So... If you do find a work around - can you let us know?
[01:30] <mikeb23930> I will, but count on it.  I'm not very good at this sort of thing.  I'm just trying to learn a bit by trial and error and error and error.  You get the idea.
[01:31] <mikeb23930> Soulda benn don't count on it.
[01:32] <defendguin> what is the default mythtv dvd player?
[02:08] <williammanda> hey guys
[02:09] <williammanda> how do you setup the lineup using schedulesdirect?
[02:11] <williammanda> well maybe I just found it
[02:17] <OpenMedia> defendguin: Should default to the Internal player.
[02:18] <defendguin> mtd?
[02:18] <OpenMedia> Nope "Internal"
[02:18] <defendguin> k
[02:19] <OpenMedia> If the GUI is the same as playing TV recordings then it is internal. Some people use Xine as it works with more disks.
[02:20] <defendguin> its kind of annoying i have yet to be able to play a dvd with my box
[02:27] <OpenMedia> defendguin: WHY?
[02:27] <defendguin> don't know
[02:27] <OpenMedia> When you got to the Optical Disk settings for DVD what is the selected player?
[02:27] <OpenMedia> Can you play DVDs outside of MythTV?
[02:28] <defendguin> well i tried to use ogle for a while and mtd but nothing doing
[02:28] <OpenMedia> why MTD?
[02:28] <defendguin> it was a binary installed by the mythdvd package
[02:28] <defendguin> i assumed it was the internal player
[02:28] <OpenMedia> by MTD I assume you mean the Myth Transcoding Daemon.
[02:28] <OpenMedia> Do you have mplayer installed?
[02:29] <defendguin> if not i can install it
[02:29] <OpenMedia> try mplayer dvd:// or mplayer dvd://1
[02:29] <OpenMedia> If that doesn't work you are missing libraries.
[02:29] <defendguin> would that work through a ssh connection?
[02:29] <defendguin> ssh -X  justin@mythserver?
[02:30] <defendguin> could i run it from there to test it out?
[02:32] <OpenMedia> mplayer -v null -ao null dvd://
[02:32] <OpenMedia> You don't want to try and play a DVD over an X session, too much data
[02:33] <defendguin> i don't even hear the dvd spinning up
[02:34] <OpenMedia> Can you play Audio CD?
[02:35] <OpenMedia> Also is the front end on the same box as the backend?
[02:35] <defendguin> yes they are both the same
[02:35] <OpenMedia> Ok. So can you rip DVDs, or play audio CDs?
[02:36] <defendguin> under optical disks i dont see a section for play audio cd
[02:37] <OpenMedia> Can you use your MythFrontend without the frontend? if you can't access music/dvd outside of Myth then you have other issues. Can you start a terminal and run commands?
[02:39] <defendguin> i'll install bmp and see if it can play a CD
[02:45] <OpenMedia> Generally mplayer should work or report some sort of error with DVDs
[02:48] <defendguin> frick   the cd i am using has some stupid drm on it and i can't even read it on my laptop
[02:51] <defendguin> i can't even eject it
[02:52] <defendguin> time for the paper clip
[02:53] <OpenMedia> Nasty
[03:02] <defendguin> whats the command for mplayer to play a music cd?
[03:05] <cornel1> I found the solution to my remote problem...  In my research, I generally found that there was on lircrc, in your home, and a symbolic link from, i forget where, to the one in the home.  Mine was like that.  But, somehow, sometime, mine got changed to two files.  Once I copied the one I'd been working with, all was well.
[03:10] <OpenMedia> defendguin: Never used to to play music CDs.
[03:10] <defendguin> lol i can't even figure out how to make bmp play a cd i'm feeling pretty dumb at the moment
[03:22] <defendguin> ok i'm just going to assume something is fubared with the system and i need to re-install once gutsy comes out
[03:23] <defendguin> thats what i get for installing the server edition instead of the desktop edition
[03:57] <grndslm> heya... i'm trying to open mythfrontend, but this pops up and complains about not being able to connect to the backend:
[03:57] <grndslm> 2007-09-03 20:52:07.206 Connecting to backend server: 192.168.1.12:6543 (try 1 of 5)
[03:57] <grndslm> 2007-09-03 20:52:07.206 Connection timed out.
[03:57] <grndslm>                          You probably should modify the Master Server
[03:57] <grndslm>                          settings in the setup program and set the
[03:57] <grndslm>                          proper IP address.
[03:57] <grndslm> 2007-09-03 20:52:07.916 TV: Attempting to change from None to None
[03:57] <grndslm>  ...i've set the proper ip address in mythtv-setup... and in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt & the mysql.txt in my home dir
[04:20] <tgm4883> grndslm, Is the frontend and backend on the same machine?  Is this mythbuntu or Ubuntu w/ mythtv?
[04:21] <grndslm> tgm4883: i figured it out... /archive directory wasn't writable to by myth user
[05:02] <tazgodx> im just curious, i have a mythtv setup already, but i did a ubuntu install and then mythtv install, but is there a way i can transfer my xvid and divx files to my mythtv to watch? if so where would i put them?
[05:02] <tazgodx> i tried putting them in my /var/lib/mythtv/videos folder, and it recogniszes them, but it says theya re 0 seconds long
[05:06] <tazgodx> i know putting my mp3s into /var/lib/mythtv/music worked
[05:37] <MythbuntuGuest93> Is anyone here?
[05:37] <tgm4883> yep
[05:37] <MythbuntuGuest93> I'm having a problem with the new alpha release
[05:37] <MythbuntuGuest93> and I've done md5 checksum and integrity check
[05:37] <MythbuntuGuest93> but I'm getting a SQUASHFS error which is a showstopper
[05:38] <MythbuntuGuest93> Is it a known problem?
[05:38] <tgm4883> sec
[05:39] <tgm4883> hmm, I don't see any bug's about it, although there is one question
[05:39] <tgm4883> any exotic hardware?
[05:39] <MythbuntuGuest93> nope
[05:40] <tgm4883> hmm
[05:40] <tgm4883> have you tested a gutsy cd at all?
[05:40] <MythbuntuGuest93> 7600GS video card, PVR150 and HDHomeRun, and core 2 duo
[05:40] <OpenMedia> Tried cleaning your CD/DVD Rom drive?
[05:40] <MythbuntuGuest93> No, actually, I was running feisty with the mythtv packages before this
[05:40] <MythbuntuGuest93> Haha, actually I haven't tried cleaning the drive
[05:41] <OpenMedia> md5sum the disk ?
[05:41] <MythbuntuGuest93> but wouldn't that show up in an integrity check?
[05:41] <MythbuntuGuest93> yeah I did md5 sum before burning, and integrity check after
[05:41] <OpenMedia> Should.
[05:41] <OpenMedia> 64bit or 32bit?
[05:41] <MythbuntuGuest93> It's core 2 duo, but to be safe I was running the 32 bit
[05:42] <MythbuntuGuest93> (always have had problems with 64 bit stuff, and I don't see any performance advantages)
[05:43] <tgm4883> where do you get the squashfs error?
[05:44] <MythbuntuGuest93> is this working?
[05:45] <MythbuntuGuest93> weird
[05:45] <MythbuntuGuest93> this java IRC client isn't so good
[05:45] <tgm4883> :(
[05:45] <MythbuntuGuest93> anyways, i'm seeing the error in /var/log/syslog, at about 39%
[05:45] <MythbuntuGuest93> "SQUASHFS error: zlib_inflate returned unexpected result..."
[05:45] <MythbuntuGuest93> and then several of those
[05:45] <tgm4883> hmm
[05:46] <MythbuntuGuest93> and also "sb_bread failed reading block ..."
[05:46] <MythbuntuGuest93> It's just such a weird problem.
[05:47] <MythbuntuGuest93> Thanks for your guys help, by the way!
[05:47] <tgm4883> looks like it could be a kernel bug, but most likely a cd/cd drive problem
[05:48] <tgm4883> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/67159
[05:48] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 67159 in linux-source-2.6.17 "oops in zlib_inflate_codes" [Undecided,New] 
[05:48] <MythbuntuGuest93> checking it out
[05:49] <MythbuntuGuest68> sorry, this is me again
[05:50] <tgm4883> ok
[05:50] <MythbuntuGuest80> anyone know anything about a "runaway loop binfmt-464c" error on boot, on a fresh install?
[05:50] <tgm4883> nope, i see nothing on launchpad about it
[05:51] <MythbuntuGuest68> It might be a CD/DVD rom problem, but I don't really know what to do about that...  I'm thinking it's not, since I was able to install many other distros with this drive, including feisty.
[05:51] <MythbuntuGuest68> Never heard of a runaway loop problem, guest80
[05:51] <MythbuntuGuest68> sorry
[05:51] <MythbuntuGuest80> ugh
[05:51] <MythbuntuGuest80> maybe it's a 64-bit problem
[05:52] <tgm4883> well drives do go bad, could be a kernel bug.  I would try partitioning outside of ubiquity then running the installer
[05:52] <MythbuntuGuest80> I heard something about a mismatch between the word size of the kernel and userspace modprobe
[05:52] <MythbuntuGuest80> I'll try 32-bit Mythbuntu then
[05:52] <MythbuntuGuest80> thanks
[05:52] <tgm4883> Guest80, it's not a 64-bit problem
[05:52] <MythbuntuGuest80> no?
[05:52] <tgm4883> http://www.uclibc.org/lists/busybox/2006-August/024010.html
[05:53] <tgm4883> 386 ^^
[05:53] <tgm4883> http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Fedora/2005-09/3095.html
[05:53] <tgm4883> also 386^^
[05:53] <tgm4883> google is your friend :)
[05:53] <tgm4883> Guest68, well drives do go bad, could be a kernel bug.  I would try partitioning outside of ubiquity then running the installer
[05:54] <MythbuntuGuest80> yeah, but I didn't see any solutions on Google
[05:54] <tgm4883> I didn't see any either, but I did see that 32-bit was having the same problem
[05:55] <MythbuntuGuest80> ugh
[05:55] <MythbuntuGuest80> well, thanks anyway
[05:59] <MythbuntuGuest68> Hey, I found something interesting in the syslog that I didn't see before
[05:59] <MythbuntuGuest68> and I've put the syslog online at http://media.eflorenzano.com/syslog.txt
[05:59] <MythbuntuGuest68> umount: /target/cdrom: not mounted
[05:59] <MythbuntuGuest68> that's a problem, eh!
[06:01] <MythbuntuGuest68> not sure why it's doing that though
[06:45] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest68, you here still?
[06:50] <MythbuntuGuest68> yes, and I just figured it out
[06:50] <MythbuntuGuest68> memtest86 showed ram errors
[06:50] <MythbuntuGuest68> thanks for the help guys
[06:50] <superm1> glad you got it sorted out :)
[06:50] <MythbuntuGuest68> BTW, superm1, I'm a ISU student :)
[06:50] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest68, really? :)
[06:50] <MythbuntuGuest68> Awesome work with the distro
[06:50] <MythbuntuGuest68> Yep!
[06:50] <superm1> thx, what's your major?
[06:50] <MythbuntuGuest68> Senior in CS
[06:51] <superm1> awesome.  well we can grab a a beer this upcoming weekend then
[06:51] <MythbuntuGuest68> sure thing!
[06:51] <MythbuntuGuest68> It's on me, for all the help your packages have been to me
[06:52] <superm1> sweet.  can never turn down free beer
[06:53] <MythbuntuGuest68> oops, just found a bug
[06:53] <MythbuntuGuest68> nvidia-glx_1.0.9631 deb was not found
[06:53] <superm1> prop graphics detection is a bit iffy
[06:53] <superm1> yup
[06:53] <superm1> a few reports of that already
[06:53] <MythbuntuGuest68> kk
[06:53] <superm1> the version in the repos changed on us
[06:53] <superm1> just dont install prop driver until reboot
[06:54] <superm1> we'll be looking to fix it next alpha around
[06:54] <MythbuntuGuest68> and then do it via CLI?
[06:54] <superm1> well via the control centre ideally
[06:54] <superm1> you'll find it in the myth menu system
[06:54] <superm1> once your installed
[06:59] <MythbuntuGuest68> sweet, thanks man
[07:37] <cann> morning =)
[07:56] <superm1> mornin cann
[08:00] <MythbuntuGuest68> Hey superm1, I'm havin' a hard time finding the control centre...am I just stupid, or what? lol
[08:00] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest68, http://www.mythbuntu.org/node/16
[08:02] <MythbuntuGuest51> It's me again, disconnected accidentally
[08:02] <MythbuntuGuest51> That's just not there for me
[08:02] <superm1> you installed alpha4 right?
[08:02] <MythbuntuGuest51> I think so, it's whatever I downloaded tonight from the downloads page
[08:02] <superm1> oh i wonder if the downloads page link wasn't updated
[08:02] <superm1> and just the front page
[08:03] <superm1> when you installed, were all of the mythbuntu questions at the end of the install?
[08:03] <superm1> or in the middle
[08:03] <MythbuntuGuest51> At the end, I believe
[08:04] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest51, well lets see um whats another big change you can verify with - did it ask you about schedules direct in the installer?
[08:05] <superm1> or zap2it
[08:05] <MythbuntuGuest51> Is the polorix or the cdimages the correct one
[08:05] <superm1> cdimages
[08:05] <MythbuntuGuest51> zap2it, actually, I thought that was funny!
[08:05] <superm1> yea you got the old one
[08:05] <MythbuntuGuest51> Damn, ok
[08:05] <superm1> i'll update those links, Daviey appears to have only updated the front page :)
[08:05] <MythbuntuGuest51> Sounds good
[08:05] <MythbuntuGuest51> thanks man, that clears up a lot
[08:05] <superm1> yea there have been a significant amount of changes to the installer too
[08:06] <superm1> that nvidia problem may not crop up for you
[08:06] <superm1> you'll have to see
[08:06] <MythbuntuGuest51> I see
[08:06] <MythbuntuGuest51> I'll brb, gonna re-burn
[09:02] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest81, better luck this time around, got the right burn?
[09:03] <MythbuntuGuest81> I did
[09:03] <MythbuntuGuest81> and now i'm getting dumped straight to a command prompt
[09:03] <MythbuntuGuest81> instead of getting the livecd install environment
[09:03] <MythbuntuGuest81> I'm doing an integrity check
[09:04] <superm1> hopefully not more bad ram
[09:04] <MythbuntuGuest81> ...which takes forever :)
[09:04] <MythbuntuGuest81> Naw, I've re-run memtest and it's fine
[09:06] <MythbuntuGuest81> I see, errors found in integrity check, this time it actually WAS a bad burn lol
[09:06] <MythbuntuGuest81> just not my night
[09:06] <MythbuntuGuest81> Gonna try re-burning
[09:11] <MythbuntuGuest81> Actually, I'm going to call it a night
[09:11] <MythbuntuGuest81> Thanks for all your help, I'll be back in the channel tomorrow I'm sure :)
[09:11] <MythbuntuGuest81> Probably under the username ericflo or maybe floguy
[09:12] <MythbuntuGuest81> Cya then
[09:12] <superm1> okay cool
[09:12] <superm1> night
[09:15] <cann> is there anything besides xorg.conf and lircrc i should backup when i switch from my ubuntu 6.10 too mythubuntu ?
[09:15] <superm1> depends on what else you set up :)
[09:15] <superm1> samba and vnc and nfs are set up for you during install
[09:15] <superm1> /etc/lirc/* wouldn't hurt depending on how well the automatic selection works out for you
[09:16] <cann> ok
[09:17] <cann> i basicly dont have anything but xorg. openbox, mythtv + plugins and mysql. and i have setup a grabber yet so i guess iam better of with a fresh mysql
[09:19] <superm1> well maybe /home/, if you have anything of value there
[09:19] <superm1> but beyond that i dont see much that you would need then
[09:19] <cann> yepp but home is on seprate disks =)
[09:19] <cann> cool
[09:19] <cann> seems easy enuf then *cough*
[09:20] <cann> =)
[09:20] <superm1> well the only thing that seems to be biting people that i'm reading
[09:20] <superm1> and hearing
[09:20] <superm1> is the video driver during install
[09:20] <Timelord> Anybody got winMyth to work on 2.20.2?
[09:20] <superm1> i've yet to retry it myself to make sure about that though
[09:20] <cann> ok ATI or NV? or both ?
[09:20] <superm1> Timelord, haven't tried winmyth since about 0.17 :)
[09:20] <superm1> cann, well the reports are with nvidia drivers
[09:21] <superm1> so if you encounter an error, just dont install them
[09:21] <superm1> and you can set them up after the first boot
[09:21] <superm1> via the control centre
[09:21] <Timelord> Has it been abandoned now?
[09:21] <superm1> wouldn't surprise me
[09:21] <superm1> if that was the case
[09:21] <superm1> but i havent heard
[09:21] <superm1> Timelord, if your on gutsy, you may look into mythtv-fusefs
[09:22] <superm1> and then you can make a nice share
[09:22] <cann> superm1: alright thanks for the tip =)
[09:22] <Timelord> i'm on feisty
[09:22] <superm1> cann, but if you do encounter the problem with video drivers, please add some notes to the bug
[09:22] <superm1> i've only got one nvidia card myself, and didn't hit it when i tried the install a few days before we announced alpha4
[09:22] <cann> superm1: offcourse
[09:23] <superm1> Timelord, ah okay.
[09:23] <superm1> Timelord, well if/when you move up to gutsy, you can consider looking into it
[09:23] <superm1> its a pretty neat little app
[09:24] <Timelord> If it worked!
[09:24] <cann> mythtv-fusefs to use instead of NFS for frontends ?
[09:25] <superm1> well let me try to explain what it does
[09:25] <superm1> it is a userspace fuse module that connects to the mysql server and gathers the metadata
[09:25] <superm1> and creates files in the mount point
[09:25] <superm1> that have a sensible name showing the appropriate metadata
[09:25] <superm1> so if you then in turn share that via samba or nfs
[09:26] <superm1> then you can get away with on a windows frontend using it there
[09:26] <cann> ahh ok
[09:26] <superm1> so it can be quite useful
[09:26] <superm1> keescook wrote it :)
[09:28] <cann> another question, what about reaching the video directory on the backend from a seprate frontend. iam a bit confused if it is ment to work like that or not
[09:28] <superm1> video like mythvideo?
[09:29] <cann> yeah
[09:30] <cann> sure i can just mount it via NFS but does the standalone frontend have the fuctionality to play them ?
[09:30] <superm1> in the current setup no
[09:30] <superm1> there may be some UPNP style announcing going on in the future
[09:30] <superm1> but nothing yet
[09:31] <cann> ok aand there is no way to trick it ? =)
[09:31] <superm1> well i honestly haven't played with 0.20.2's upnp stuff
[09:31] <superm1> its a direct backport from trunk
[09:32] <superm1> so it may have some of the functionality there already, but last i heard it was just a "future plan"
[09:32] <cann> alright
[09:32] <superm1> but setting up NFS is straightforward enough
[09:33] <superm1> /etc/exports is generated for you whenever you install mythbuntu with a backend or if you install NFS using the control centre and have a backend role
[09:33] <cann> i guess i can always use mplayer on the frontend to play those files if needed
[09:33] <superm1> as long as you emulate the same directory structure for media files on your frontends
[09:33] <superm1> NFS is quite feasible
[09:35] <cann> yeah
[09:37] <superm1> okay well bed time for me
[09:37] <superm1> nn
[09:37] <cann> night
[10:27] <Timelord> I have a wireless keyboard with some extra keys (mute volume++ volume--).  How can I get these keys to work in MythTV?
[10:46] <hugolp> Timelord:  get them to work in linux and they will work in mythtv
[10:47] <hugolp> my keyboard has the same keys and they just conrol linux overall volume and so they control mythtv volume
[10:50] <Timelord> Thanks.  My Keyboad is the BTC 9019URF.
[10:51] <Timelord> Where do I start to look?
[11:05] <hexxeh|work> generally, what those extra keys does is determined by your window manager
[11:05] <hexxeh|work> assuming X is aware of them, which isn't always the case
[11:11] <hugolp> yes, mine were configured out of the box
[11:11] <hugolp> cant help you
[11:22] <Timelord> Ok thanks
[12:43] <jono> superm1: ping
[01:38] <laga> Timelord: fire up xev and push those extra keys. if you get output, you can make use of them with xmodmap, for example. or lineak or similar tols. i bet google is full of howtos
[02:22] <mythluvr> Hi Guys
[02:23] <mythluvr> Is anyone on here running the multirec branch from svn by any chance?
[02:24] <mythluvr> is anyone here?
[02:25] <mythluvr>  :'(
[02:25] <cornell_work> I'm here, but, I'm not running the multirec branch
[02:26] <mythluvr> OK
[02:26] <cornell_work> And, generally, I'm an "asker", not an "answerer" ;-)
[02:26] <mythluvr> I'm trying to work out a problem but trying to get my head around php at the same time........the relevent file is probably also in trunk
[02:26] <mythluvr> php knowledge?
[02:28] <mythluvr> Thanks anyway cornell
[04:47] <superm1> morning jono
[04:47] <superm1> what's up?
[04:48] <jono> hey
[05:12] <foxbuntu> superm1, you around?
[05:12] <superm1> yes
[05:12] <foxbuntu> how do I update the changelog again?
[05:12] <laga> dch -v
[05:12] <foxbuntu> ok
[05:12] <superm1> dch is the utilitiy
[05:12] <superm1> utility
[05:12] <laga> superm1: i'll create a mythbuntu-trunk group for the trunk builds
[05:13] <laga> if you dont mind
[05:13] <superm1> its got lots of options
[05:13] <superm1> laga, you mean on LP?
[05:13] <laga> yes
[05:13] <superm1> sure that should work
[05:13] <laga> yay
[05:13] <laga> :(
[05:13] <laga> err
[05:13] <laga> :)
[05:14] <superm1> laga, i wast thinking about the trunk builds, you know what would be pretty neat?
[05:15] <laga> no?
[05:15] <superm1> if there was builds for different branches like multirec, but i'm not sure it would be worth the effort
[05:15] <laga> yeah
[05:15] <laga> i wanna do that, definitely.
[05:15] <laga> at least extend debian/rules to do that.
[05:15] <superm1> so name the normal trunk normally
[05:16] <superm1> and maybe the other branches all have packages suffixed with the type of branch it is
[05:16] <hexxeh|work> myth versions don't speak to each other, so it might open up support headaches
[05:16] <laga> mind you, danielk does not want people to package up mythtv-vid
[05:16] <superm1> and make them conflicting upon each other
[05:16] <superm1> hexxeh|work, good point
[05:16] <laga> hexxeh|work: no support for trunk packages unless it's a packaging problem
[05:16] <laga> it's as simple as that
[05:17] <laga> i will not be spoon-feeding anyone who insists on doing stupid things after being warned
[05:18] <hexxeh|work> you miss one vital detail though
[05:18] <laga> yes?
[05:19] <hexxeh|work> When people know they're in the wrong, they'll waste your time by lying in bug reports
[05:20] <laga> i'll come after them then
[05:20] <hexxeh|work> with a rusty spoon?
[05:20] <laga> with a rusty ice cream dispenser
[05:20] <laga> ;)
[05:21] <hexxeh|work> coo!
[05:21] <hexxeh|work> also, woo. i'm almost done converting my website from ye olde to stylish and modern
[05:22] <superm1> laga does this mean your close to having trunk functional :)?
[05:22] <laga> superm1: the packages?
[05:22] <superm1> ya
[05:22] <foxbuntu> superm1, I just commited the new version based on clearlooks you might check to make sure I did it right this time
[05:22] <laga> yes. just got one weird error on install the other day, but i didn't bother to track it down. should be OK ;)
[05:23] <laga> i'll perform a test install later
[05:23] <superm1> great cool
[05:23] <superm1> we can mirror you to arpms and uk.weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org once axel gets back to me about the cron issue and then issue a big announcement :)
[05:24] <superm1> foxbuntu, as I recall i might have already bumped the debian/changelog in preparation before, but i'll check
[05:24] <Daviey> we've got another apt repo mirror?
[05:24] <superm1> Daviey, you and axel thats it for now
[05:24] <Daviey> cool
[05:24] <foxbuntu> well I bumped it this time with a different version to note the upstream version
[05:24] <foxbuntu> of gtk2-engines where clearlooks is
[05:24] <superm1> foxbuntu, did you update the dependencies
[05:25] <superm1> in debian/control
[05:25] <foxbuntu> yes
[05:28] <foxbuntu> so did I hose it up this time somewhere?
[05:29] <superm1> well
[05:29] <superm1> this version number is a mess
[05:29] <foxbuntu> why is that?
[05:29] <superm1> well it doesnt matter where we are basing our sources from
[05:29] <superm1> our version shouldnt change because of that
[05:30] <superm1> to match theirs
[05:30] <foxbuntu> I thought the first part should be the upstream version number
[05:30] <superm1> well yes in cases where your package comes from upstream
[05:30] <foxbuntu> oh
[05:30] <superm1> but this package starts in bzr
[05:30] <superm1> just depends on some upstream packages
[05:30] <superm1> such as clearlooks
[05:31] <superm1> also.
[05:31] <superm1> if you want me to submit this with you in the changelog, you need a proper email address there
[05:31] <foxbuntu> and since the package is all our own...we don't do that?
[05:31] <superm1> right.
[05:31] <foxbuntu> ok
[05:32] <superm1> okay now debian/control
[05:32] <foxbuntu> should I redo the changelog then?
[05:32] <superm1> you are build depending on all the gtk2-engines
[05:32] <foxbuntu> yes
[05:32] <superm1> you shouldn't need them for building
[05:32] <superm1> only at run time
[05:32] <superm1> and you shouldn't need them all?
[05:32] <superm1> just clearlooks?
[05:32] <foxbuntu> but when I looked around clearlooks isn't packaged on its own
[05:33] <superm1> ah yes.  gtk2-engines-clearlooks - Clearlooks GTK+ 2.x engine and theme (dummy package)
[05:33] <superm1> its a dummy package now
[05:33] <superm1> okay so gtk2-engines is right, but dont build-depend on it
[05:33] <superm1> only have the resultant package depend upon it
[05:33] <foxbuntu> ok so where do I put that then?
[05:33] <foxbuntu> in that file
[05:33] <superm1> the Depends line below
[05:34] <superm1> and if you dont need the pixbuf engine, take that out too
[05:34] <superm1> and modify that description if it isn't accurate anymore
[05:34] <foxbuntu> ok
[05:34] <superm1> debian/copyright needs to be updated as it still references blueheart in it
[05:35] <superm1> AUTHORS needs to be updated as well, to indicate the proper history of the theme
[05:37] <laga> before i can create trunk packages, i need to read up on bzr and how to create branches. i need my own build tree for private use here because i require some non-standard (and possibly dangerous) patches
[05:41] <ubotu> New bug: #134949 in lirc "IDs for MCEUSB2 distributed by HP" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134949
[05:42] <superm1> laga, bzr branch NAME PLACE
[05:42] <superm1> and then push it elsewhere
[05:43] <laga> thx
[05:44] <superm1> like to your ~ directory on LP
[05:45] <laga> oh, i don't need to publish need
[05:45] <laga> it's just for my local builds
[05:49] <superm1> okay well i'm out for a bit.  foxbuntu let me know later on when you've got those things i described to you updated
[05:50] <foxbuntu> superm1, I am pushing them up right now
[05:51] <superm1> foxbuntu, okay well i'm not taking my personal laptop to class today, so i'll just have to look through the webif if i see anything else
[05:54] <foxbuntu> superm1, sounds good just let me know
[06:46] <tatters> I been trying to build from svn on ubuntu gutsy compiling seemed to go well with no errors yet running mythtv-setup I get "error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.20.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" I tried adding "usr/local/lib " to ld.so.conf and then sudo ldconfig but still getting same error
[06:46] <tatters> http://pastebin.com/ma1805f7
[07:14] <t-ob-i> hi
[07:15] <t-ob-i> yesterday i get the alpha 4 cd.. i burned it and now, while starting mythbuntu, it prints out the errormessage "error reading boot cd".. anyone an idea?
[07:19] <laga> check the md5sum, make sure the disc was burned properly
[07:20] <t-ob-i> ok, fine. i thought it was better to ask that is not a known bug before i burn a new one :)
[07:20] <laga> :)
[07:23] <Timelord> Hi.  I upgraded to 2.20.2.  Now the weather works through the GUI but not in MythWeb.  (befor it didn't work at all).  Is this a known problem?
[07:24] <laga> yes
[07:24] <laga> well, at least it's known to me. :)
[07:24] <laga> you can file a bug if you want to
[07:24] <Timelord> Ok.  I wondered if I had done something wrong.
[07:25] <laga> mythweather is broken for almost everyone
[07:25] <laga> ubuntu just has a patched version
[07:25] <Timelord> I was kinf of suprised when it worked in the GUI.
[07:26] <laga> heh
[07:32] <Daviey> t-ob-i: also what mirror did you download from?
[07:33] <tatters> anyone tried compiling mythtv from source on gutsy and solved the .so problem
[07:35] <tatters> I been trying to build from svn on ubuntu gutsy compiling seemed to go well with no errors yet running mythtv-setup I get "error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.20.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" I tried adding "usr/local/lib " to ld.so.conf and then sudo ldconfig but still getting same error
[07:38] <t-ob-i> Daviey: i burned a second cd, not i think it works.. (system ist loading)
[08:00] <laga> tatters: have you removed your old install? the packages?
[08:02] <tatters> laga: solved it thnx I failed to add --prefix=/usr/  when configuring
[08:02] <laga> that's ugly
[08:02] <laga> ah well, your choice
[08:02] <tatters> what u mean by ugly?
[08:04] <laga> tatters: you manually installed stuff into /usr/ which is "reserved" for regular packages
[08:04] <laga> mixing that can result in broken.. $stuff ;)
[08:04] <tatters> ic, thnx for info
[08:05] <tatters> seemed to be the only solution that actually worked
[08:13] <Daviey> superm1: you like your top-posting eh?
[08:14] <Daviey> :D
[08:15] <laga> heh
[08:16] <laga> g'night guys & gals
[08:21] <foxbuntu> tgm4883, hows it goin?
[08:22] <Daviey> nn laga
[08:23] <alpaca> hey which commands do i run to upgrade mythbuntu?
[08:23] <alpaca> i always forget
[08:23] <Daviey> alpaca: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:25] <alpaca> thanks man
[08:25] <alpaca> appreciate it
[08:36] <bendailey> keescook, hello
[08:37] <keescook> bendailey: hi!
[08:37] <keescook> bendailey: I haven't gotten my mirror up yet, but should have it shortly.
[08:38] <bendailey> ok when you do shoot me the ip and I will get dns working
[08:38] <keescook> bendailey: cool
[08:39] <bendailey> if I am not on irc do you have my email?
[08:39] <keescook> bendailey: yeah, superm1 included it; I should have the IP in about a minute...
[08:42] <keescook> bendailey: 69.93.193.228
[08:43] <foxbuntu> bendailey, I am getting close to having my mirror up as well
[08:44] <foxbuntu> bendailey, I am in the final stages of discussion with the ISP that is offering to help
[08:44] <bendailey> great
[08:45] <foxbuntu> they have some serious bandwidth they are offering as well
[08:45] <foxbuntu> 145MB up stream
[08:45] <bendailey> great, I have support ticket in now to get my mirror online
[08:45] <foxbuntu> awesome
[08:45] <foxbuntu> would be nice to have all three come to life this week
[08:46] <bendailey> yeah hopefully mine will be done today
[08:46] <bendailey> superm1, are you around?
[08:46] <foxbuntu> I supposed to hear from the ISP again later today or early tomorrow on what they want to provide
[08:47] <bendailey> foxbuntu, do you have my email incase I am not on when you need dns done?
[08:48] <foxbuntu> I don't think so
[08:48] <bendailey> keescook, DNS is done and resolves here
[08:48] <bendailey> foxbuntu, did you get my pm?
[08:49] <foxbuntu> yes
[08:49] <bendailey> ok
[08:51] <keescook> bendailey: great, thanks
[08:52] <bendailey> not a problem
[08:52] <foxbuntu> bendailey, thanks, I will let you know when I am ready for DNS
[08:53] <bendailey> foxbuntu, great
[08:53] <bendailey> who is maintaining mythbuntu.org?
[08:54] <foxbuntu> tgm4883, and superm1 do most of it
[08:54] <foxbuntu> superm1, knows where its actually hosted
[08:55] <foxbuntu> I am trying to work out a deal for a passive webhost so we can have a failover server as well
[08:55] <bendailey> ok I was just wondering who needed to be notified so the new mirrors could get listed on the site
[08:55] <foxbuntu> bendailey, I can post the new ones as well
[08:55] <foxbuntu> you can email me with the url
[08:55] <foxbuntu> check PM
[08:56] <bendailey> go the pm
[08:56] <bendailey> once I get my mirror working I will shoot you mine
[08:56] <foxbuntu> sounds good
[08:57] <foxbuntu> where is your located again? MI ?
[08:57] <bendailey> yep MI
[08:58] <bendailey> foxbuntu, I was planning on talking with tgm4883 about replicating drupal because my mirror is setup at mythbuntu.net
[08:58] <bendailey> brb
[08:58] <foxbuntu> oh
[09:02] <bendailey> back
[09:11] <bendailey> fosbuntu, I hope you didn't step on toes you should definitely pursue the passive mirror, because I haven't mentioned drupal replication yet so there may be no interest
[09:12] <bendailey> s/I hope you/I hope I/
[09:15] <superm1_> foxbuntu, still need a few pieces of work with the gtk packaging.
[09:15] <superm1_> foxbuntu, don't want to introduce new version numbers if the package hasn't hit the archive
[09:15] <superm1_> the last version that has hit the archive is 0.2-0ubuntu1, so the next one should be 0.3-0ubuntu1
[09:15] <superm1_> with no entries in between
[09:16] <superm1_> also, when I said history in AUTHORS, i meant that you should show the history of the mythbuntu theme
[09:16] <superm1_> not of the clearlooks theme
[09:16] <foxbuntu> superm1_, no I changed 0.4 to that strange one and then back
[09:16] <superm1_> right but we never released to 0.3
[09:16] <foxbuntu> oh
[09:16] <superm1_> 0.2 was the last one in the archive
[09:16] <foxbuntu> ok
[09:16] <superm1_> so this upload  should be 0.3
[09:16] <foxbuntu> ok
[09:17] <foxbuntu> I will merge all that information together then
[09:17] <superm1_> also, don't modify the line by hand with your email address
[09:17] <superm1_> its broken
[09:17] <superm1_> only do it with dch
[09:17] <foxbuntu> and put it in v0.3
[09:17] <superm1_> debuild didn't work anymore
[09:17] <foxbuntu> oh
[09:17] <foxbuntu> how do I change it with dch?
[09:18] <superm1_> well you need to set env variables for your name and email address
[09:18] <foxbuntu> ok...how?
[09:18] <superm1_> i dont remember the two off hand
[09:18] <foxbuntu> oh
[09:18] <superm1_> the man page probably explains them
[09:18] <superm1_> but by modifying by hand, you messed up the spacing on it
[09:19] <foxbuntu> oh
[09:19] <foxbuntu> ic
[09:20] <superm1_> bendailey, keescook thanks for getting that mirror all set up and working already, that was really quick :)
[09:21] <foxbuntu> superm1_, I found them but how do I change them?
[09:21] <keescook> superm1_: no problemo.  I love a chance to use some of my 1TB/mon limit.  :)
[09:21] <superm1_> keescook, what else you use the box for atm?
[09:21] <superm1_> foxbuntu, i usually set them in my .bashrc
[09:21] <keescook> superm1_: everything.  :P  email, family web sites, etc
[09:22] <bendailey> foxbuntu, thanks for putting the linkup
[09:22] <superm1_> foxbuntu, which will take effect next time you start a terminal, or if you resource the .bashrc
[09:22] <bendailey> superm1_, no problem I should have my mirror operation today sometime
[09:23] <superm1_> bendailey, sweet, let me know when and i'll update the links on the site
[09:23] <bendailey> superm1_, great I will let you know
[09:23] <superm1_> keescook, bendailey do you guys have logins to the site?
[09:23] <superm1_> if not i'll make you each one, and then you can pull out your mirror(s) in the event your near monthly BW or anything like that
[09:24] <foxbuntu> superm1, Its sounding like I might have my mirror this week too
[09:24] <superm1_> great :)
[09:24] <bendailey> I had one back when imbrandon had the host but I don't think I have one know
[09:24] <bendailey> s/know/now/
[09:24] <superm1_> bendailey, okay i'll make you one then in a few
[09:24] <superm1_> same email addy ok (the @inspiredtech one)
[09:25] <bendailey> this monday morning on tuesday thing is killing me
[09:25] <bendailey> yeah that is great
[09:26] <keescook> superm1_: okay, cool; yeah, that'll be good.
[09:27] <foxbuntu> superm1, how should I go about fixing the changelog now?
[09:29] <superm1_> foxbuntu, well you can reincrement it using dch
[09:29] <superm1_> and just fix the version number line
[09:30] <superm1_> and move everything later than 0.2 around
[09:30] <foxbuntu> ok
[09:30] <foxbuntu> how?
[09:31] <superm1_> dch -e?
[09:32] <foxbuntu> im getting a bad formatted header error
[09:34] <superm1_> well maybe copy out the changelog entries you want to another temporary file then, delete all the bad entries, and then rerun dch -v
[09:34] <superm1_> or whichever switch you want to use to generate the new entry
[09:34] <foxbuntu> ok
[09:41] <foxbuntu> ok superm1_ now what did you mean by the history in AUTHORS?
[09:48] <foxbuntu> superm1_, you there?
[09:52] <foxbuntu> superm1_, catch me when you have a min
[09:59] <superm1_> foxbuntu, i mean discussing that it originally used blueheart
[09:59] <superm1_> and then switched to clearlooks
[10:00] <foxbuntu> ok I added that then
[10:00] <foxbuntu> was there anything else...I fixed the changelog also
[10:01] <foxbuntu> if not I am ready for a commit
[10:02] <directhex> who's smart, sexy, and awake?
[10:03] <foxbuntu> I will give a call to awake
[10:03] <foxbuntu> the others I can't help with
[10:03] <Daviey> directhex: I'm sexy and awake
[10:03] <foxbuntu> superm1_, you see anything else to change?
[10:04] <superm1_> directhex, i'm smart, but not awake
[10:04] <tgm4883> im smart and sexy, but im on ambian, so im not awake
[10:04] <superm1_> foxbuntu, that was all i saw offhand, possibly the wording on the changelog entries
[10:05] <superm1_> foxbuntu, but i'll have to see how you worded things
[10:05] <superm1_> and did you do a test build?
[10:05] <directhex> superm1_,  Daviey, one thing that's been concerning me about my repository is how to keep users of it aware of things they need to be aware of - e.g. if i drop a package. i had the idea of an empty metapackage, which all my packages depend on, which has a debconf notification of important messages. give me some reasons why it's a terrible idea
[10:06] <superm1_> directhex, sorry i'm not familiar with your repository?  What do you host on it?
[10:07] <superm1_> oh wait your the same person as hexxeh|work aren't you :)
[10:07] <superm1_> well that is a bit invasive to force users to see changes every time around
[10:07] <superm1_> you want to use a README.debian instead
[10:07] <superm1_> and then the interested users can read the changes there
[10:10] <tgm4883> directhex, why don't you go with that empty package, but dont force people to see the changes.  They can see the changes in the update manager
[10:12] <directhex> superm1_, the list is on http://directhex.mfgames.com/ - basically mythtv, mono, and packages elated to the above. give or take.
[10:13] <directhex> tgm4883, i'm generating .changes files, but i don't know why they aren't being picked up on by update-manager
[10:14] <superm1_> well i agree with tgm4883, any relevant changes will be seen in the update-manager
[10:14] <superm1_> once you fix that :)
[10:14] <directhex> what voodoo am i missing to get the changes shown in there?
[10:18] <superm1_> directhex, i never investigating setting such things up myself before
[10:18] <superm1_> are you using Falcon?
[10:18] <superm1_> to generate your repo?
[10:19] <directhex> just apt-ftparchive
[10:20] <sslashes> ls
[10:20] <sslashes> *ignore =P
[10:21] <sslashes> does anyone know how to change the base "var" directory for mythtv - so all the plugins and mythtv uses something besides /var?
[10:21] <directhex> porn mail warez cd.odt
[10:22] <tgm4883> ?
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[10:22] <tgm4883> ah
[10:22] <tgm4883> lol
[10:23] <tgm4883> sslashes, I believe that is in mythtv-setup, you would have to change that and move everything over
[10:23] <tgm4883> remember, this ^^^ comes with the Oklahoma Warranty
[10:23] <superm1_> sslashes, although it might just be easier to do symlinks
[10:24] <superm1_> sslashes, so that you don't have to move things around
[10:24] <tgm4883> true
[10:24] <superm1_> and set up permissions in the new directories
[10:24] <superm1_> directhex, you might look at using Falcon
[10:24] <superm1_> i thought it set up changes files in the right places for you and did a lot of dark magic
[10:33] <foxbuntu> superm1_, I just commited the changes
[10:34] <superm1_> ok foxbuntu
[10:34] <superm1_> i'll look in a min
[10:35] <foxbuntu> thanks superm1_
[10:36] <superm1_> foxbuntu, okay looks good (assuming it builds and works correctly)
[10:37] <superm1_> i'll test build / upload when i get home later this evening
[10:39] <foxbuntu> superm1_, kewl...thanks...it looks much better than before and colors can be adjusted quite easily as well so if you think it needs changed I can do that
[10:39] <superm1_> foxbuntu, you have a screenshot i can see?
[10:40] <foxbuntu> sure
[10:40] <superm1_> with either ubiquity or something on the control centre
[10:40] <foxbuntu> one mine
[10:40] <superm1_> ideally
[10:40] <foxbuntu> well my themes won't apply to ubiquity for some reason on my laptop
[10:40] <foxbuntu> and control centre was broken earlier
[10:40] <foxbuntu> so just a min
[10:41] <superm1_> control centre broken?
[10:41] <superm1_> the one on the PPA?
[10:41] <foxbuntu> hm
[10:41] <foxbuntu> I can't get it from the repo either
[10:41] <foxbuntu> says its not avail
[10:41] <superm1_> its not in the archive yet
[10:41] <superm1_> its in the ppa though
[10:41] <foxbuntu> ok how do I get it then?
[10:42] <superm1_> http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/ubuntu gutsy main restricted universe multiverse
[10:42] <superm1_> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/ubuntu gutsy main restricted universe multiverse
[10:42] <superm1_> actually is the apt line
[10:43] <foxbuntu> k
[10:46] <foxbuntu> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/ubuntu gutsy main restricted universe multiverse
[10:46] <foxbuntu> err
[10:46] <foxbuntu> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/ubuntu gutsy main restricted universe multiverse
[10:46] <foxbuntu> ugh
[10:46] <foxbuntu> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:46] <foxbuntu>   mythbuntu-control-centre: Depends: mythbuntu-lirc-generator but it is not installable
[10:46] <superm1_> you must not have universe on then?
[10:46] <tgm4883> apt-get update?
[10:46] <superm1_> the lirc-generator is in gutsy universe
[10:48] <foxbuntu> no I do
[10:48] <foxbuntu> hold on
[10:56] <foxbuntu> ok I got it now
[10:56] <foxbuntu> just a min to screen shot
[11:04] <foxbuntu> superm1_, here is with control centre
[11:04] <foxbuntu> http://imagebin.org/10248
[11:05] <foxbuntu> and here is one with firefox
[11:05] <foxbuntu> http://imagebin.org/10249
[11:05] <superm1_> foxbuntu, so no darker color scheme then on the title bar or anything?
[11:05] <foxbuntu> see i think that is my machine
[11:05] <foxbuntu> you should apply it and look again
[11:05] <superm1_> okay i'll look later this evening
[11:05] <superm1_> that would be my only complaint towards it
[11:05] <superm1_> the blue doesnt exactly "go" :)
[11:06] <foxbuntu> its the same gray when in active
[11:06] <foxbuntu> inactive*
[11:06] <foxbuntu> but its easy enough to change later
[11:06] <superm1_> i'll see later on
[11:06] <foxbuntu> ok
[11:07] <foxbuntu> superm1_, can you help me finish up packaging that Apple Movie thing later tonight too?
[11:07] <superm1_> foxbuntu, its too late for it to get into universe
[11:07] <superm1_> we're past the NEW package freeze
[11:07] <foxbuntu> for the public release?
[11:09] <superm1_> everything in mythbuntu is supposed to be in universe, so yea its too late
[11:09] <foxbuntu> oh wow
[11:09] <superm1_> the last day was like 5 or 6 days ago
[11:09] <foxbuntu> I didn't know we were so close to that
[11:09] <superm1_> the control centre got in 3 days before, but needs to be acked by archive admins still
[11:10] <foxbuntu> so when is public 7.10?
[11:10] <superm1_> october is the release for gutsy
[11:10] <superm1_> mythbuntu will either be october or november depending on how 0.21 is looking
[11:11] <foxbuntu> but could this package be done for gutsy+1?
[11:11] <superm1_> yes
[11:11] <tgm4883> couldn't we stick it in the ppa?  or is that not going to be active during mythbuntu?
[11:11] <foxbuntu> ok well..we can revisit that later then as other things are more tentative obviously
[11:11] <superm1_> tgm4883, well here is the problem with putting it in a PPA
[11:12] <superm1_> someone can't convert a gutsy install to a mythbuntu install
[11:12] <tgm4883> ah
[11:12] <superm1_> unless they activate that PPA
[11:12] <superm1_> so the more code outside the PPA, the better
[11:12] <tgm4883> could that be in the control centre?
[11:12] <superm1_> activating the PPA?
[11:12] <tgm4883> yea
[11:12] <tgm4883> thats just adding to sources.list right?
[11:13] <superm1_> well need a nicer way to do it then that though
[11:13] <tgm4883> true
[11:13] <superm1_> i toyed with methods to add mediabuntu
[11:13] <Daviey> can you guys try this?
[11:13] <superm1_> and activate libdvdcss
[11:13] <Daviey> http://uk.weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/redirect/
[11:13] <tgm4883> IP mapped to: United States
[11:13] <superm1_> omg, he's on to me.  he knows i'm in the United States....
[11:13] <Daviey> zomg
[11:14] <tgm4883> IP mapped to: Saturn
[11:14] <Daviey> Hmm
[11:14] <Daviey> Do we have a mirror for Saturn?
[11:14] <superm1_> not yet
[11:14] <tgm4883> we should get one
[11:14] <tgm4883> or they can just use the UK mirror, close enough ;)
[11:14] <superm1_> tgm4883, but if you look at the control centre code, i've got all of the code for libdvdcss2 and stuff in there, its just disabled in the GUI
[11:14] <superm1_> because i couldnt find an easy way to enable medibuntu
[11:15] <tgm4883> ah, so when we find an easy way to activate that...
[11:15] <superm1_> its just uncommenting a few lines if an easy way is found
[11:16] <tgm4883> can't we just use sed?
[11:16] <foxbuntu> tgm4883, I want a mirror on the Moon
[11:16] <foxbuntu> can you make that happen?
[11:17] <superm1_> tgm4883, well you need to find a way to issue an update to the package lists then
[11:17] <superm1_> without blocking the GUI
[11:17] <tgm4883> sorry foxbuntu, no mirror on the moon.  The servers wouldn't fair very well in all that cheese
[11:17] <superm1_> taking some UpdateManager code to do it might be feasible
[11:17] <tgm4883> ah
[11:17] <superm1_> i've thought about integrating UpdateManager code into it for that exact reason
[11:17] <superm1_> but it is pretty involved
[11:18] <superm1_> especially since update manager uses synaptic to install everything
[11:18] <tgm4883> what about scripts?
[11:18] <superm1_> control centre uses apt_pkg
[11:18] <superm1_> which is a python package
[11:18] <superm1_> kinda like how gdebi does things
[11:18] <superm1_> well scripts again will block the GUI
[11:18] <tgm4883> ah
[11:21] <foxbuntu> superm1_, catch you later tonight
[11:21] <foxbuntu> headed home
[11:22] <superm1_> cya
[11:27] <ericflo> Hey quick question guys, from a mythbuntu n00b...I just set up alpha 4, and got everything working
[11:27] <ericflo> now I'm wondering about update && upgrade
[11:27] <ericflo> mythtv and related packages are listed as needing upgrade....
[11:27] <ericflo> is this right?
[11:29] <superm1_> ericflo, yes
[11:29] <ericflo> (BTW, I was the guy on the channel last night)
[11:29] <superm1_> there was a change that fixes mythstream
[11:29] <superm1_> issued right after the alpha
[11:29] <ericflo> I see, cool, I'll cross my fingers and update
[11:29] <superm1_> shouldn't break too much :)
[11:31] <tgm4883> superm1_, I meant to ask you about that.  So what was wrong, was it something with the mythstream package?
[11:31] <superm1_> tgm4883, it was a problem upstream mythtv
[11:31] <superm1_> minor typo on juski's part
[11:32] <tgm4883> ok, so the mythstream package is ok, i dont need to change anything in it (besides adding the orig maintainers changes back in)
[11:32] <superm1_> so i issued a patch localy
[11:32] <superm1_> and then juski fixed it upstream
[11:32] <superm1_> just add those original maintainers changes yes
[11:32] <superm1_> when you have a debdiff in, i'll be glade to sponsor you on it
[11:35] <ericflo> sweet, everything worked, you guys rock :)
[11:35] <superm1_> great, did you do prop drivers before install?
[11:35] <superm1_> or after?
[11:35] <ericflo> prop?
[11:35] <superm1_> nvidia/ati drivers
[11:36] <ericflo> Oh, yeah clicking that checkbox crashed my computer
[11:36] <ericflo> I should have probably filed a bug
[11:36] <superm1_> okay so still in alpha4 that happened to you
[11:36] <ericflo> Yep
[11:36] <superm1_> well there is a bug already opened for it
[11:36] <ericflo> I've got an NVidia 7600GS
[11:36] <superm1_> can you add the output of restricted-manager -l
[11:36] <superm1_> to the already open bug?
[11:37] <ericflo> Should I insert the install CD and do it from there, or just do that from this running system?
[11:37] <superm1_> from this running system
[11:37] <superm1_> it will be identical output
[11:38] <ericflo> BTW, where's the launchpad for this?  I followed the link from the website, and it only had 2 open bugs.  I think it's another bad link.
[11:38] <superm1_> http://launchpad.net/mythbuntu
[11:38] <superm1_> well there are only a few open bugs
[11:38] <Daviey> superm1_: can you test again: http://uk.weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/redirect/
[11:38] <Daviey> (and refresh a couple of times)
[11:38] <superm1_> Miror 2
[11:38] <superm1_> Mirror 3
[11:39] <superm1_> Mirror 1 (US)
[11:39] <superm1_> Miror 2
[11:39] <superm1_> Miror 2
[11:39] <superm1_> Mirror 3
[11:39] <Daviey> k
[11:39] <superm1_> ericflo, https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/137167
[11:39] <Daviey> IP mapped to?
[11:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 137167 in mythbuntu "installer freezes when click install proprietary driver" [Undecided,New] 
[11:39] <superm1_> that is the bug
[11:40] <ericflo> Ok, adding output
[11:40] <superm1_> Daviey, IP mapped to: US Will Redirect to: Mirror 1 (US)
[11:40] <Daviey> thanks
[11:40] <Daviey> will this is pretty much done
[11:40] <Daviey> (it's quite nasty tho :P)
[11:40] <superm1_> well functional is the only important part
[11:41] <Daviey> If it's a us IP it will redirect to a US mirror (random, not RR), it it is UK it will DL from UK - rest of the world Random of all
[11:45] <Daviey> superm1_: so what mirrors do we have now?
[11:45] <Daviey> uk.
[11:45] <Daviey> us-ca.
[11:46] <Daviey> us-mi. (nearly)
[11:46] <Daviey>      ^ does bendailey know it's not config'd right?
[11:49] <superm1_> us-mi bendaiely said probably later
[11:49] <superm1_> and then foxbuntu said hopefully later this week for us-ia
[11:49] <superm1_> so for now
[11:49] <superm1_> us-ca
[11:49] <superm1_> us-tx
[11:49] <superm1_> uk
[11:49] <Daviey> cool
[11:54] <superm1_> Daviey, okay well if you want to pm me your sftp pub key, i'll give you access to the mythbuntu.org acct
[11:54] <superm1_> and you can drop things in place
[11:55] <Daviey> okay.. i'll get this finished first
[11:55] <Daviey> http://uk.weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/redirect/
[11:55] <Daviey> Should show a different url for you
[11:56] <Daviey> between the two current valid ones
[11:56] <Daviey> (US)
[11:56] <superm1_> yup
[11:56] <superm1_> it is alternating among the two
[11:56] <Daviey> shame laga isn't here
[11:56] <Daviey> Any non US lurkers here?
[11:56] <superm1_> you can probably grab someone in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:56] <superm1_> or somewhere else
[11:57] <superm1_> that can double check
[11:57] <Daviey> will when it's finished
[11:57] <Daviey> Yeah baby!
[11:57] <Daviey> refresh
[11:58] <superm1_> okay yes its redirecting to the site
[11:58] <superm1_> but not the URL
[11:58] <Daviey> eh?
[11:58] <Daviey> you mean not .iso?
[11:59] <superm1_> yea if you provide an iso in the path
[11:59] <superm1_> shouldn't it chop it?
[11:59] <Daviey> yeah.. doing that now
[11:59] <Daviey> patience!
[11:59] <superm1_> and apply it towards one of those mirrors
[11:59] <superm1_> haha
[11:59] <superm1_> okay
[11:59] <superm1_> okay
[12:00] <Daviey> This is pretty much my first php eva
[12:00] <superm1_> well my first python ever was this summer too with ubiquity
[12:00] <superm1_> fun to pick up a new lang like that eh?
[12:00] <Daviey> =)
[12:03] <ericflo> Python's the best...I'm a big Python evangelist.  It's basically like writing pseudocode, only better, IMHO.
[12:03] <Daviey> superm1_: hmm.. just had a worrying thought...
[12:04] <Daviey> wonder if it is possible to insert arb' code via url?
[12:04] <superm1_> Daviey, depends on how you write it :)
[12:04] <Daviey> superm1_: i aint a php coder... ;)
[12:04] <superm1_> ericflo, yea this summer its became my new favorite language
[12:05] <superm1_> ericflo, i wrote the control centre, ubiquity modifications, mythbuntu-live-autostart, and mythbuntu-lirc-generator in it
[12:05] <ericflo> Nice, it's really good for those types of apps
[12:05] <ericflo> But I love it best for Django :)
[12:05] <superm1_> never used that myself
[12:06] <ericflo> Once I went Django, I never went back.  Unless forced, I'll use it for all my web programming projects in the future.
[12:08] <superm1_> well for mythbuntu.org, we went to drupal for our CMS, its been a bit of a learning experience, but i've learned to like it
[12:09] <ericflo> I haven't used Drupal for 2 years or so, but it's gaining extremely wide acceptance, so it's probably a good choice for a project like Mythbuntu.
[12:09] <ericflo> Especially when you don't need much custom functionality
[12:11] <Daviey> superm1_: http://uk.cdimages.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu-7.10~070830-i386.iso
[12:11] <Daviey> whoops
[12:12] <Daviey> http://uk.weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/redirect/?file=mythbuntu-7.10~070830-i386.iso
[12:13] <ericflo> Anyone know if there is a bug in aspect ratio detection in mplayer?  Mine doesn't seem to be working correctly.
[12:15] <superm1_> ericflo, mplayer has aspect ratio detection?
[12:15] <superm1_> ericflo, i didn't even know it was supposed to, and instead use native player or xine usually
[12:15] <Daviey> native player ftw
[12:15] <Daviey> superm1_: ^ script working?
[12:15] <superm1_> Daviey, took a few tries
[12:15] <superm1_> to get the us-ca
[12:16] <superm1_> it seems to like us-tx more for me
[12:16] <Daviey> hmm
[12:16] <superm1_> but it eventually did
[12:16] <Daviey> the load on us-ca = 4.69 atm
[12:17] <Daviey> i can't see why it took longer tho
[12:17] <Daviey> all the php does is redirect
[12:17] <Daviey> and clicking the us-ca link on the main site, seems to work fast
[12:19] <superm1_> well i mean it took a few tries to make it choose us-ca
[12:19] <superm1_> is all
[12:19] <Daviey> superm1_: and security should be fine, as the parameter isn't interpreted anywhere, except output
[12:19] <superm1_> Daviey, okay good
[12:19] <keescook> superm1_: where do the -proposed things stand?  anything I can help with for it?
[12:20] <superm1_> keescook, well archive admins still haven't acked the new upload
[12:20] <keescook> hm
[12:20] <superm1_> keescook, and i wanted to change something regarding update-notifier
[12:20] <superm1_> after looking over one of the bugs that was filed
[12:20] <keescook> has the update-notifier change already been uploaded?
[12:21] <superm1_> keescook, well i want to change it so it Recommends update-notifier | adept-notifier
[12:21] <superm1_> and checks for the existance of the $unud directory in mythtv-database
[12:21] <superm1_> haven't done that yet
[12:21] <superm1_> but i wasnt sure i should yet since i'm still waiting on them to ack the other SD change that i uploaded
[12:22] <superm1_> so probably something just that instead of [ ! -e $unud/update-notifer.blah]  it should be [ -d $unud ]  && [ ! -e $unud/update-notifer.blah ] 
[12:22] <superm1_> in mythtv-database.postinst
[12:22] <superm1_> that way people dont need the gnome or kde dependencies added, but those that do, get the extra functionality
[12:23] <keescook> I think you can just upload the new version over the old (with a newer version #).  They'll release only the newest.
[12:37] <superm1_> okay
[12:37] <superm1_> then i'll do that later tonight
[12:37] <superm1_> i was going to do the same thing for the gutsy build too
[12:58] <Daviey> superm1_: Hmm
[12:58] <superm1_> no worky?
[12:58] <Daviey> How do you add stuff manually?
[12:58] <superm1_> in what sense?
[12:58] <superm1_> scp?
[12:58] <Daviey> ie.. i've added "download" folder
[12:58] <Daviey> http://mythbuntu.org/download/
[12:59] <Daviey> transfering is fine.. but getting something visable
[12:59] <Daviey> ahh.. no worries
[12:59] <superm1_> what was it?
[12:59] <Daviey> directory listing is no enabled
[12:59] <Daviey> http://mythbuntu.org/download/index.htm works
[01:00] <superm1_> oh yea directory listing is off
[01:02] <Daviey> hmm.. mythbuntu.org has a nice colourful nano
[01:03] <Daviey> i've never seen nano like that
[01:03] <superm1_> haha
[01:03] <superm1_> i'm used to nano like that
[01:03] <superm1_> all the time
[01:07] <Daviey> done
[01:07] <Daviey> curently i'f no param is passed it will go to Http;//$mirror/  which i think is fine
[01:09] <Daviey> http://mythbuntu.org/download/redirect.php?file=mythbuntu-7.10~070830-i386.iso
[01:10] <superm1_> sweet!
[01:10] <Daviey> actually
[01:10] <Daviey> http://mythbuntu.org/download/?file=mythbuntu-7.10~070830-i386.iso
[01:10] <Daviey> works
[01:10] <superm1_> yea that looks better
[01:11] <Daviey> Have you had a look @ index.php?
[01:11] <Daviey> it is soo *nasty*
[01:12] <Daviey> I'm thinking of adding basic logging aswell
[01:12] <Daviey> ie what country they are from and what mirror they got it
[01:13] <superm1_> and submitting it where?
[01:14] <Daviey> wherever..
[01:14] <Daviey> localhost filesystem would be best
[01:14] <Daviey> :D
[01:14] <Daviey> just a txt file