[01:14] <AndrewB> nownott seems to be a bit troll like..  
[02:00] <Tm_T> moooooooooh!
[02:02] <jrib> woof
[02:04] <nalioth> Tm_T: can i add a k-line to you list?
[02:04] <nalioth> give you more time to think  <EG>
[02:04] <Tm_T> er?
[02:06] <Tm_T> its 0305 here, I havent slept and have no idea what I have in uni tomorrow
[02:06] <Tm_T> or today
[02:06] <Tm_T> or yesterday
[02:06] <Tm_T> haven't been there since last wednesday
[02:17] <sonny> test
[02:18] <Tm_T> ?
[02:19] <nalioth> sonny: what is 2 + 2 ?
[02:19] <sonny> Maybe 4?
[02:20] <nalioth> what test did you want?
[02:20] <sonny> Why does ubuntu server tell me my router has a bug?
[02:20] <nalioth> sonny: probably because it does?
[02:20] <nalioth> sonny: did you follow the instructions in #ubuntu-read-topic ?
[02:21] <sonny> Yes
[02:21] <sonny> until it tells me to change something that isnt; there
[02:22] <nalioth> the setting it discusses _is_ there
[02:22] <sonny> not that I can find
[02:23] <nalioth> anybody here know xchat and can help sonny ?
[02:23] <Vorian> yep
[02:23] <Vorian> xchat>networklist>edit "server"
[02:24] <sonny>  from terminal?
[02:24] <Vorian> this is all gui
[02:24] <Vorian> in the xchat tab
[02:25] <Vorian> select "Network List"
[02:25] <Vorian> which will open a window of all your irc server selections
[02:25] <sonny> Yes
[02:25] <Vorian> highlight the server, in this case ubuntu
[02:26] <Vorian> click edit
[02:26] <sonny> OK
[02:26] <Vorian> at the end of the irc.ubuntu.net add 8001 like this
[02:26] <Vorian> irc.ubuntu.net/8001
[02:26] <Vorian> and hit enter
[02:27] <Vorian> close the window
[02:27] <sonny> but mine says irc.ubuntu.com
[02:27] <Vorian> ok
[02:27] <Vorian> irc.ubuntu.com/8001
[02:27] <sonny> ok
[02:27] <Vorian> restart xchat
[02:28] <Vorian> actually, hit enter first, then restart
[02:28] <sonny> OK will try that but will lose you.
[02:29] <nalioth> sonny: you can come back :)
[02:29] <Vorian> lol
[02:33] <sonny> Still kicks me over to #ubuntu-read-topic with same message about router
[02:34] <nalioth> sonny: yep
[02:34] <nalioth> let's test
[02:34] <sonny> OK
[02:35] <nalioth> sonny: you can join #ubuntu now and thanks for putting up with us  :)
[02:35] <sonny> Thanks for the help.  Much appreciated.
[02:48] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-us, jbrouhard said: ubotu OSX is overpriced UNIX EyeCandy developed by the evil Apple.
[03:14] <nalioth> anybody remember the factoid to getting X development headers/files ?
[03:15] <Pici> !b-e
[03:15] <tonyyarusso> oof
[03:15] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:15] <tonyyarusso> !getx
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about getx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <nalioth> ya'll can guess in private (like i've been doing)
[03:15] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: what's the error given without them?  it has to do with that.
[03:16] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: i put the factoid in ubotu for a reason, and now i've not used it in so long it's irritating that i've forgotten it
[03:16] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: and yes, i know what files and stuff to use, i just find it easier to use the !factoid
[03:16] <nalioth> which is hte reason we have factoids
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: I know....
[03:17] <tonyyarusso> I was trying to help remember the factoid
[03:17] <tonyyarusso> !xincludes
[03:17] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   xorg-dev
[03:18] <Pici> ahh
[03:19] <nalioth>    !xin..
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xin.. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <nalioth> yeah, what he said
[03:20] <Pici> !-xincludes
[03:20] <ubotu> xincludes has no aliases - added by nalioth on 2007-01-07 21:24:46
[03:36] <Tm_T> Jucato: yo!
[03:37] <Jucato> yo Tm_T
[03:37] <Tm_T> good morning etc
[03:37] <Pici> Hello boys and girls
[03:38] <Jucato> morning to you too :)
[03:38] <Jucato> er.. in that case, evening :)
[03:38] <Tm_T> well its 0438 here
[03:38] <Tm_T> so morning now
[03:39] <Jucato> whoa
[03:39] <Pici> 9:40p here.
[03:39] <Tm_T> p?
[03:39] <Pici> pm
[03:39] <Tm_T> private message?
[03:39] <Pici> post meridian
[03:39] <Jucato> hahah
[03:40] <Jucato> 21:40 in short
[03:40] <Tm_T> aah those yankee things
[03:40] <Pici> yes.
[03:49] <Tm_T> harhar
[04:23] <ubotu> astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu
[04:23] <Tm_T> where's op
[04:24] <Tm_T> ops
[04:24] <Tm_T> good good
[05:05] <Tm_T> Jucato: "oh noes I cant be heard!"
[05:06] <Jucato> who? us?
[05:06] <Tm_T> I mean, I banned myself
[05:06] <stdin> I did wonder why..
[05:07] <Tm_T> why not
[05:07] <Tm_T> because I can
[05:07] <stdin> I could jump off a cliff, doesn't mean I will :p
[05:07] <Tm_T> 0607 -!- #kubuntu-offtopic Cannot send to channel
[05:07] <Tm_T> ;(
[05:07] <stdin> then unban yourself
[05:08] <Tm_T> why?
[05:08] <stdin> let me rephrase: then unban yourself, if you want to that is
[05:08] <Tm_T> why?
[05:09] <stdin> why not?
[05:09] <Tm_T> well because ban doesnt stop me talking =)
[05:09] <stdin> nothing can stop that ;)
[05:09] <Tm_T> so true
[05:10] <Tm_T> always fun to deop Jucato 
[05:10] <stdin> heh
[05:10] <Jucato> specially when we don't even notice it :)
[05:11] <Tm_T> yup
[05:11] <Jucato> we don't have cow powers in -offtopic. we only reign over #k
[05:12] <Tm_T> I know
[05:12] <Jucato> we know you know
[05:13] <Tm_T> I know you know I know
[05:13] <Jucato> here we go again? :)
[05:14] <Tm_T> Jucato: you're going already? shame :(
[05:14] <Tm_T> hmmm
[05:14] <Jucato> later. 45 minutes to go before lunch
[05:17] <Tm_T> bah
[05:17] <Tm_T> I still dont have proper username and password to my uni
[05:18] <Tm_T> how I'm supposed to study now? bah! BAH!
[09:19] <Jordan_U> I think that having ubotu say things like...
[09:19] <Jordan_U> !gutsy
[09:19] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:20] <Jordan_U> specifically the "support" gives the impression that even though it is alpha they will still get support, which really isn't true
[09:21] <stdin> well, #ubuntu+1 is the gutsy support channel
[09:21] <Jordan_U> And I see a lot of people in #ubuntu+1 who ask questions about bugs listed in the release notes or don't / know how to do bug reporting
[09:22] <stdin> yeah, some people run it who really should not be running development software, but there are always those that do that
[09:22] <Jordan_U> stdin, If you break your box by installing Gutsy we don't fix it in general, we tell them they should have known what they were getting into, that isn't support
[09:23] <Jordan_U> stdin, I am fine with those people running it, but I think there is an actual misunderstanding of what Alpha means, people usually get it when I say "unfinished" 
[09:24] <stdin> if you can think of better wording (without being too verbose) send a suggestion in
[09:25] <Jordan_U> discussion is not quite right.
[09:35] <ubotu> In #ubuntu+1, RAOF said: !no nouveau is <reply>Nouveau is an experimental open-source nVidia driver, aiming for full 3d support.  Homepage at http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/ - EXPERIMENTAL packages at https://launchpad.net/~raof/+archive
[09:54] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, MenZa said: !supergrub is <reply> Super Grub is a bootable cdrom, usb or floppy specially designed to restore Grub (e.g. after installing Windows). See http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[10:01] <ubotu> MenZa called the ops in #ubuntu
[10:04] <Hobbsee> yay, gits.
[10:05] <Hobbsee> dont the peabrained people in #ubuntu think that the ops *might* have an inkling of knowledge about what they're doing, and so to tell them how to do their job, especially when they accuse untrue things is just..
[10:06] <stdin> just be glad in the knowledge that you are smarter then him :)
[10:07] <Hobbsee> stdin: yeah.  and have ops, so can remove his sorry butt :P
[10:07] <Hobbsee> RAOF: i only stay there for the highlights
[12:08] <ubotu> mikubuntu called the ops in #ubuntu
[12:10] <elkbuntu> how can we help, mikubuntu?
[12:16] <elkbuntu> mikubuntu, if you have an issue, please explain it. we cannot help otherwise
[12:31] <mikubuntu> did somebody boot me from ubuntu?
[12:32] <elkbuntu> mikubuntu, yes, you were being disruptive
[12:32] <elkbuntu> i've evaluated your claim about #ubuntu-offtopic, and cannot find any evidence of you ever being in there
[12:33] <mikubuntu> ok, well i dispute that.
[12:33] <elkbuntu> with what nickname were you in that channel?
[12:33] <mikubuntu> yes iwas in there, but i may not have been there under mikubuntu.
[12:33] <mikubuntu> i know i talked to indygunfreak that nite.
[12:34] <ikonia> indygunfreak is in most nights
[12:34] <mikubuntu> who i don't even want to know gun freaks anyways
[12:34] <elkbuntu> indygunfreak is in alot of channels, and online most evenings
[12:35] <elkbuntu> mikubuntu, it is appearing to me and ikonia, that you are merely trying to stir trouble. your outbursts in #ubuntu are not going to get you anywhere, and were disrupting other people
[12:36] <mikubuntu> since i made a detailed complaint to several emails that i cfould find leading to mshuttleworth, let me go to my email, and find the documentation i made.  i'll paste it to pastebin, so you can review.
[12:37] <elkbuntu> mark shuttleworth is unlikely to have time to take any consideration to the happenings in the irc channels. he is an immensely busy man
[12:38] <elkbuntu> i've attended two ubuntu development summits and spoken to him for less than the duration of five minutes between the two
[12:38] <elkbuntu> if you have any complaints about the community, they are to go to the community manager, jono@ubuntu.com
[12:39] <mikubuntu> i hope you'll find i am a reasonable left wing bleeding heart dual unitedstates/panamanian citizen, who just wanted to declare independence from the GATES of hell, and felt that no-one would take the time to help me...  i realise now, understanding more the structure of the irc, that i din't have standing based on established conduct standards, to complain, as i did.
[12:39] <ikonia> ?
[12:39] <elkbuntu> meanwhile, please be aware that the rules of the irc channels are such that #ubuntu is for support issues, and #ubuntu-offtopic is *NOT* for support
[12:40] <elkbuntu> you are dealing with a volunteer community, one that donates its time. you cannot expect any minimum standard of service, or any form of warranty
[12:40] <mikubuntu> elkbuntu: well, i was sent to offtopic, where i was berated as STUPID, among other things.
[12:41] <mikubuntu> if i find you the dates of my experience will you be able to access the logs?
[12:43] <elkbuntu> im afraid that unless this happened in the past few hours, there is no point acting on it. please continue seeking support in #ubuntu in a civil manner, respecting that those there are volunteers and have no duty to you, and if any issues arise, bring them here, not to Mark
[12:44] <mikubuntu> you know, there are people in this world who actually fit a description of stupid, tho thats not the politically correct nomenclature for their condition anymore.   is there room in the ubuntu community for ppl who don't meet rigourous iQ standards?
[12:45] <mikubuntu> maybe there's a need to recognise mental disabilities.
[12:45] <elkbuntu> mikubuntu, we do not need to see this rant.
[12:46] <mikubuntu> rant?  open your mind.
[12:46] <mikubuntu> there are ppl with disabilities in this world.
[12:46] <elkbuntu> you're not saying anything we do not know, mikubuntu
[12:47] <elkbuntu> i currently idle in the #ubuntu-accessibility channel and have since i joined the ubuntu community
[12:47] <mikubuntu> so does the accessibility channel serve the disabled community?
[12:49] <elkbuntu> the accessibility channel is a project channel to assist, test and advise accessibiliity software technology for Ubuntu
[12:50] <mikubuntu> please don't read anger into my questions.  i am not angry.  i am a student of transactional analisis, and i realise that you cant read the emoticons on my face or in my typing.  try to imagine that ev erything i say i say from the adult ego state, in a completely non emotional TONE, whether or not i happen to be experiencing emotional urges as i write.
[12:51] <elkbuntu> mikubuntu, be aware that typing in CAPS is SHOUTING
[12:52] <mikubuntu> elkbuntu: very aware.  my last post was 7 lines and two words capped.  your last line was ONE line Two words capped.  Is this a SHOUTING contest?
[12:52] <mikubuntu> you won.
[12:53] <tonyyarusso> Please don't take knowledge of where channel operators conduct their business as.....
[12:53] <tonyyarusso> nvm
[12:53] <elkbuntu> he was technically idling
[12:53] <mc44> elkbuntu: a genuine issue to do with irc, you mean ;)
[12:53] <elkbuntu> just doing so noisily
[12:54] <tonyyarusso> Technically trolling, rather.
[12:54] <Seeker`> how can you "noisily idle" in IRC?
[12:54] <elkbuntu> Seeker`, it's an alternative to saying trolling ;)
[01:09] <elkbuntu> he's now trying to take me to task in -accessibility
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> heh - looking to get multi-banned?
[01:11] <elkbuntu> oddly, he hasnt been banned yet
[01:15] <ubotu> TheMuso called the ops in #ubuntu-accessibility
[01:15] <elkbuntu> hehe, he's just testing
[01:36] <elkbuntu> * mikubuntu :No such nick/channel
[01:36] <elkbuntu> YAY!
[01:36] <elkbuntu> that's over with.. for today
[01:37] <Hobbsee|Remote> heh
[01:37] <tonyyarusso> PPA is confusing me :(
[01:37] <Pici> Tune in next time...
[01:37] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso, what's up?
[01:37] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, how is that anything new?
[01:37] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: I uploaded something, but it's only showing the source package and no indication that it intends to build it sometime.
[01:38] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: :P
[01:38] <tonyyarusso> (plus I forgot to mark it for the right component, but that's just my fault)
[01:38] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: Oh, there it goes.
[01:38] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso, yeah.... give it 10 minutes for it to show up on the intent to build page... then a little while longer for it to have its turn
[01:38] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: It just have has delay
[01:38] <tonyyarusso> gotcha
[01:39] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: Do you understand versioning?  I appended .1~ppa1, but don't really know why.
[01:39] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso, ok well the idea is that once the ppa is ready... it goes into universe or whatever...
[01:40] <PriceChild> so if you do the intended ubuntu version... e.g. -0ubuntu1, and then append the ppa version, e.g. -0ubuntu1~ppa1, then you can update the ppa number as much as possible, and as soon as your package arrives in ubuntu, -0ubuntu1 will be upgraded over -0ubuntu1~ppa9999
[01:41] <tonyyarusso> Oh, so a tilde is lower than without.
[01:41] <PriceChild> I think so yes...
[01:42] <PriceChild> Please don't hurt me if it isn't as I haven't tested it myself :) but I'm pretty sure that's the idea.
[01:42] <Hobbsee> easy enough to test it
[01:42] <tonyyarusso> yeah
[01:43] <Hobbsee> sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 0ubuntu1~ppa1 lt 0ubuntu1 && echo true
[01:43] <Hobbsee> true
[01:43] <tonyyarusso> ??
[01:44] <PriceChild> *reads the man*
[01:45] <tonyyarusso> (lazy today - maybe some other time)
[01:47] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso, i've read the man page serveral times and am still not sure :P
[01:56] <PriceChild> right i'm off again
[01:56] <PriceChild> *waves*
[03:30] <ubotu> In ubotu, mody_ said: so what this mean, does it mean that your experience is not enough to assist me - any way I thank you for your reply in all cases
[03:31] <jrib> 1ubotu > mody_
[03:31] <jrib> !ubotu > mody_
[05:45] <ubotu> In ubotu, tonyyarusso said: no, kompozer is a WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project.  It will be in the Ubuntu repos for 7.10 ("gutsy"); meanwhile for other versions add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list:  "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu {dapper,edgy,feisty} universe"  (pick your release and list it without brackets)
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> dangit
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> %login
[06:57] <ubotu> Jack_Sparrow called the ops in #ubuntu
[07:16] <gata> ola
[07:36] <ompaul> !restricted > richih
[07:36] <nalioth> he'll never see it, ompaul 
[07:37] <nalioth> he's got dozens of windows open
[07:37] <ompaul> ah
[09:29] <Pici> I'm going home, someone keep an eye on -offtopic
[09:34] <PriceChild> *looks*
[10:18] <necronekostar> er ok test me
[10:19] <necronekostar> er ok test me
[10:19] <PriceChild> Hi necronekostar 
[10:19] <necronekostar> ...
[10:19] <mneptok> necronekostar passes
[10:19] <PriceChild> He does...
[10:19] <PriceChild> but I can't see a ban in #ubuntu
[10:20] <PriceChild> necronekostar, sure you can't /join #ubuntu ?
[10:20] <necronekostar> no
[10:20] <PriceChild> please try
[10:20] <necronekostar> probably my roomate got the ban
[10:20] <necronekostar> i just did.
[10:21] <mneptok> ugh. bantracker is down.
[10:21] <necronekostar> ...........................................................
[10:21] <PriceChild> no it isn't...
[10:21] <PriceChild> necronekostar, please be patient
[10:21] <necronekostar> w/e i'll be back later
[10:21] <necronekostar> just memo when i can get in plz
[10:21] <necronekostar> i got to go to dentist
[10:22] <necronekostar> and consider having the default port for ubuntu servers in xchat package changed to 8001
[10:22] <PriceChild> I see a ban on databuddy!*@*!#ubuntu-read-topic
[10:22] <necronekostar> sure
[10:22] <necronekostar> thats one of mine
[10:22] <PriceChild> necronekostar, please try now
[10:22] <mc44> the default port is now 8001, isn't it?
[10:22] <mc44> at least for gutsy
[10:22] <starscalling> this one too...
[10:22] <PriceChild> mc44, it is I think
[10:23] <starscalling> mc44 dunno gotta double check - if so thats a good thing isuppose
[10:23] <starscalling> im in my feisty install atm
[10:23] <starscalling> neway mind clearing this one?
[10:23] <PriceChild> starscalling, you are banned from #ubuntu
[10:23] <starscalling> starscalling/nekostar/necronekostar/databuddy
[10:23] <starscalling> PriceChild im not supposed to be 
[10:23] <PriceChild> Yes you are.
[10:23] <starscalling> ompaul said he cleared that
[10:24] <starscalling> w/e obviously i need to idle a bit
[10:24] <PriceChild> ping ompaul 
[10:24] <starscalling> sent memo
[10:25] <starscalling> --- [ompaul]  idle 01:40:49, signon: Tue Sep  4 10:34:01
[10:25] <jrib> how does one list realname bans?
[10:25] <starscalling> jrib eh?
[10:25] <starscalling> from a channel ban list?
[10:25] <PriceChild> jrib, do you use chanserv.py ?
[10:25] <mc44> jrib: /mode d?
[10:26] <starscalling> /MODE #ubuntu-ops b
[10:26] <starscalling> o something different i guess then lol
[10:26] <PriceChild> mc44, that's it
[10:26] <starscalling> o nice
[10:26] <jrib> mc44, starscalling: thanks
[10:27] <starscalling> ok well i'll be back in a while i suppose....
[10:31] <PriceChild> For anyone that wasn't on yesterday or who haven't heard... the IRC Council was approved yesterday :)
[10:32] <starscalling> irc council?
[10:32] <starscalling> go on...
[10:33] <PriceChild> starscalling, please be patient and as soon as I can, I will deal with your ban.
[10:34] <starscalling> PriceChild - no offense man, but irc is a text based game which we are all required to read. my last commend was obviously directed towards the irc council which _i_ personally know not much about. so please expound as i am replying to your message?
[10:34] <PriceChild> starscalling, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/IrcCouncil
[10:34] <mneptok> we're required to read IRC?
[10:35] <mc44> mneptok: every single line
[10:35] <mc44> twice
[10:35] <jrib> backwards, one one leg
[10:35] <starscalling> so they keep telling me mneptok - and so i keep telling my users :P
[10:35] <jrib> on even
[10:36] <starscalling> #
[10:36] <starscalling>     *
[10:36] <starscalling> #
[10:36] <starscalling> Serve terms of two (2) years. irc council members could serve multiple or repeated terms. Weight will be given to proved contributors and reelection of consistently active members should be both easy and common. <<-- thats a bit long...
[10:36] <starscalling> mm sorry about the formatting @_@
[10:37] <PriceChild> starscalling, those details. have been approved by the community council and are now in place. They are not up for discussion, especially not int his forum.
[10:37] <starscalling> just an observation..
[10:41] <starscalling> ok im off back in an hour or two tata~~
[10:48] <ompaul> ha
[10:48] <ompaul> PriceChild, he be okay
[10:49] <ompaul> mneptok, only on Tuesdays
[10:52] <PriceChild> starscalling, could you try rejoining #ubuntu please?
[10:53] <ompaul> starscalling, as per PriceChild which nick was blocked or user@
[10:54] <PriceChild> ompaul, there "shouldn't" be any bans set on him according to /cs bans
[10:55] <ubotu> neverblue called the ops in #ubuntu
[10:58] <ompaul> starscalling, do me a favour and check out an email address for me not that hard to find - I don't see memoserv most of the time I have so many windows open :) pm me if you want it
[11:01] <ompaul> starscalling, ask anyone here mostly they know it
[11:10] <ompaul> PriceChild, the classic comment to Sev one day by me -- so people change over time, one day I might have a clue :)
[11:11] <ubotu> Netham45 called the ops in #ubuntu
[11:13] <gnomefreak> TBH i thought cassey was referring to himself as a noob
[11:18] <ompaul> gnomefreak, not the way I read it, but you could be right :)
[11:18] <ompaul> gnomefreak, note the change in behaviour when called on it
[11:18] <ompaul> not saying I am right
[11:18] <ompaul> gnomefreak, nothing too bad I hope
[11:18] <mc44> gnomefreak: I hope you share with the rest of the class :)
[11:18] <ompaul> gnomefreak, next Monday they get to cut me up again 
[11:18] <gnomefreak> i just got out of hospital and they gave me painkillers
[11:19] <gnomefreak> ompaul: sorry to hear that
[11:19] <gnomefreak> if it helps than im glad they are doing it but if it doesnt help im sorry :(
[11:21] <ompaul> gnomefreak, you are the bug fixer from somewhere :)
[11:21] <gnomefreak> mozilla
[11:22] <gnomefreak> i screw up iceape commits to bzr i need to  fix
[11:24] <PriceChild> naughty gnomefreak :)
[11:25] <gnomefreak> that was  a long day i had to relearn dpatch, but i think next upload ill drop dpatcha nd go with quilt
[11:55] <tonyy> %login
[11:56] <tonyy> bot can't login linked nicks eh?
[11:56] <PriceChild> Nope seems not
[11:56] <PriceChild> I poked seveas about it, and he just added my second nick to the editors list
[11:56] <PriceChild> I'm sure it used to work...
[11:57] <tonyy> hmm
[11:58] <ubotu> Jordan_U called the ops in #ubuntu
[12:00] <tonyy> PriceChild: remind me sometime that I need to enable nifty irssi scripts on my mobile installation.
[12:00] <PriceChild> tonyy, you need to enable nifty irssi scripts on your mobile installation.
[12:00] <tonyy> PriceChild: later you ninny
[12:00] <tonyy> :P
[12:01] <PriceChild> cya
[12:19] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, Jordan_U said: ubotu !aptitude is "aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[12:20] <Jordan_U> I just removed the "However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall."
[12:20] <Jordan_U> As apt can now also
[12:22] <starscalling> o hey ompaul 
[12:22] <ompaul> starscalling, ya
[12:22] <starscalling> yeah still getting redirected
[12:22] <ompaul> na 
[12:22] <ompaul> it should be gone now
[12:22] <ompaul> starscalling, I thought I had removed that before
[12:22] <starscalling> nope
[12:22] <starscalling> lol
[12:22] <starscalling> im stillg etting redirected??
[12:22] <starscalling> to the chan that says come here
[12:23] <starscalling> lets try other nick set
[12:23] <ompaul> part and try again
[12:24] <databuddy> eh whois me
[12:24] <ompaul> did you get in?
[12:24] <databuddy> #ubuntu-read-topic im in XD
[12:24] <PriceChild> I can't figure it out...
[12:24] <ompaul> ahh that 
[12:24] <databuddy> hey
[12:24] <databuddy> look for um
[12:24] <PriceChild> /cs bans says there's nothing on you
[12:24] <databuddy> masterloki too
[12:24] <ompaul> now that is a router 
[12:24] <ompaul> hang on
[12:24] <PriceChild> I removed both the standard bans and the forward
[12:24] <databuddy> [my roomate] 
[12:25] <databuddy> yaknow
[12:25] <PriceChild> I don't see any real name bans matching you
[12:25] <ompaul> databuddy, hang on
[12:25] <databuddy> it would have been easier to change ip addys im betting
[12:25] <ompaul> masterloko
[12:25] <ompaul> pass me an ip in a pm
[12:25] <Pici> I wonder if they're not authing until after joining the channels
[12:25] <databuddy> masterloki yeah
[12:25] <ompaul> not that it is going to be secret when it gets unblocked
[12:25] <ompaul> haha
[12:25] <databuddy> lol
[12:25] <ompaul> kinda publich that
[12:25] <databuddy> yawall
[12:26] <databuddy> hey should i just change ip instead?
[12:26] <databuddy> if there's nothing on the nicks its probably an ip thing
[12:26] <ompaul> send me the ip 
[12:27] <ompaul> I want to see what is holding it in there
[12:27] <PriceChild> ompaul, its madness
[12:27] <ompaul> you know the stuff with the routers
[12:27] <ompaul> databuddy, ^^
[12:27] <ompaul> some of them their chipsets have bad bios
[12:28] <ompaul> and when dcc gets sent
[12:28] <ompaul> then they bounce connections
[12:28] <databuddy> ompaul noticed u it = here comes 
[12:28] <ompaul> and we ban foraward it 
[12:28] <databuddy> 75.80.5.221
[12:28] <databuddy> no point at this point
[12:28] <databuddy> if my local net can get hacked its not a router issue
[12:28] <databuddy> tho i spose im vulnerable to a ddos
[12:29] <ompaul> it is a problem with your router
[12:29] <ompaul> okay 
[12:29] <ompaul> so do this connect to freenode on port 8001
[12:29] <databuddy> yeah no update for my model
[12:29] <databuddy> did
[12:29] <ompaul> ahh then we test ya :)
[12:29] <databuddy> go ahead
[12:29] <ompaul> we get to dos ya in a pm 
[12:29] <databuddy> ;p
[12:29] <databuddy> yey
[12:29] <databuddy> notice also worx
[12:30] <databuddy> i think... 
[12:30] <ompaul> so thats clear
[12:30] <databuddy> one sec
[12:30] <necronekostar> k do this one
[12:30] <ompaul> necronekostar, its the same one
[12:30] <necronekostar> sure
[12:30] <ompaul> it was the ip
[12:30] <ompaul> now join the damn channel :)
[12:30] <necronekostar> they did this earlier lol but ok
[12:31] <ompaul> necronekostar, that sucks - so the chanserv stuff had been reintroduced or not done right by me
[12:31] <ompaul> this is why they were confused
[12:31] <necronekostar> ah
[12:31] <necronekostar> owell
[12:32] <ubotu> In ubotu, Jordan_U said: aptitude is "aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide"
[12:32] <Jordan_U> I just removed the "However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall." sine apt-get now has autoremove also
[12:32] <Jordan_U> *since
[12:33] <ompaul> !aptitude
[12:33] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[12:50] <mneptok> nekostar: we tend to discourage user idling in -ops. is there something else you need?
[01:02] <gnomefreak> we also look down on changing nicks that often while idling
[01:04] <stefg> i'd vote for revising the !UUID factoid. after several bad experiences with blkid yielding bad and outdated volume UUID's i think it's doing more bad than good
[01:05] <Jordan_U> stefg, Would you suggest vol_id instead?
[01:06] <stefg> Jordan_U: the only reliable way i found was looking in gnome's volume property tab
[01:07] <Jordan_U> stefg, Any idea where gnome gets it from?
[01:08] <stefg>  /proc/disk/by-uuid/ ... blableh ... can't remember exactly ... somewhere inthe /proc tree
[01:09] <stefg> Jordan_U: right libblkid0