[12:38] <garfield> notlabled: wa is the buttin super on the keyboard?
[12:40] <sumguy231> garfield: since nobody's answering, it's the Win key.
[12:40] <WaltzingAlong> sumguy231: what do i win?
[12:40] <sumguy231> A stuffed animal, I'll mail it to you. :)
[12:42] <WaltzingAlong> sumguy231: :8
[12:42] <WaltzingAlong> sumguy231: ^,^          well i have one such key on this keyboard as well. should have a nice little Tux on it or something
[12:44] <elite101> man, school was a drag as allways
[12:44] <elite101> im stuck in grade nine english :(
[12:45] <Biovore> yeah.. english isn't your language..
[12:45] <Biovore> must be a computer..
[12:46] <elite101> :D
[12:47] <elite101> lol well i felt happy i hooked up my uncles sterio for his car this makes the second time i have done this*
[12:48] <elite101> mhm yeah i dont own a car but yet i can work on one :)
[12:49] <kkathman> elite and Biovore - hey you might wanna take your convo over to #kubuntu-offtopic since its not exactly kubuntu support stuff :)
[12:49] <elite101> :( err* sorry
[12:49] <kkathman> hey np
[12:49] <Braders> Hey can anyone tell me how to get into another directory in the terminal please
[12:49] <elite101> how long have you been here kkathman?
[12:49] <kkathman> the --offtopic chann is really kewl :)
[12:50] <kkathman> elite101:  hmm Ive been around on kubuntu/ubuntu since Warty :)
[12:50] <elite101> ohh i dont recongnize your nick :\
[12:50] <kkathman> hehe Ive also used other distros too :)
[12:51] <kkathman> i dont usually have the time to chat too much either :)
[12:54] <mike_moose> Why are the folders ~/env and ~/share automatically re-created?
[12:55] <kkathman> recreated when?
[12:56] <mike_moose> Any time I log in via kdm into kde.
[12:56] <mike_moose> Shouldn't those two folders be under ~/.kde?
[12:57] <mike_moose> They contain a shell script for gtk-engine and a file called kwalletrc
[12:57] <kkathman> mike_moose:  maybe not, cuz remember kde is in the user space
[12:59] <thumper> is there a nice UI for upgrading feisty to gutsy?
[01:01] <mike_moose> Does anyone know why kwallet is putting it's config files in ~/share/config/ instead of ~/.kde/share/config/ ?
[01:04] <GoodHabit> I have a game at /opt/ directory. How to make shortcup in right way to use that game (simple path to bin file doesn't work - I think problem is with working directory).
[01:05] <Jehova> hello
[01:05] <Jehova> im an new linux and kubuntu user
[01:06] <Jehova> now i have a little action with kopete, please can someone help me
[01:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> god uses linux.  tell Bill Gates to stick THAT in his pipe and smoke it!
[01:06] <mike_moose> God smokes?
[01:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> only if you believe bill gates is god.
[01:07] <Savak> someone didn't read it properly lol
[01:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> re-read that sentence.
[01:07] <underdog5004> I doubt bill gates smokes
[01:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's a saying.
[01:07] <Savak> bill gates smokes dollar bills
[01:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> no, no he doesn't
[01:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> bill gates smokes hundred dollar bills
[01:08] <Savak> hehe
[01:08] <Savak> ok what part of guarddog (other then protocol tab) would stop kopete connecting to msn
[01:09] <mike_moose> Naw, he moved on to grinding gold and diamonds to dust and then free-basing that.
[01:09] <Jehova> @savak please im an newbee
[01:10] <Jehova> dont make a fool of me
[01:10] <Savak> huh jehova?
[01:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> Jehova: i don't think he is
[01:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> he has his own issue with kopete :)
[01:10] <Jehova> o sorry
[01:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> but why guarddog anyway?
[01:10] <Savak> I know it's guarddog, only thing thats changed
[01:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah, shoot.  i gotta get homework done :\
[01:11] <Savak> is there anyway to view connection logs etc in kopete?
[01:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> i shall return after i finish reading about the lovely institution of the US supreme court and writing a paper on why term limits on SC justices is a Good Thing(tm)
[01:11] <underdog5004> which program should I use to listen to mp3s from the command line?
[01:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> mpg123
[01:12] <underdog5004> ty, Daisuke-Ido
[01:12] <underdog5004> ermm.... Daisuke_Laptop , even
[01:13] <Jehova> i cant add icq buddys to kopete,, how can i fix it
[01:14] <kkathman> Jehova:  whats wrong?  what does it do?
[01:15] <Jehova> nothing it do! i open the add window an put the icq number in. but than i  get no contact in my libery
[01:16] <kkathman> Jehova:  works just fine here :)
[01:16] <kkathman> Jehova:  are you setting your icq UIN in the Settings - configure ?
[01:16] <Jehova> no i have now installed gaim to get help
[01:16] <Jehova> yes i have done
[01:16] <kkathman> not much help there
[01:17] <ubuntu> guys, ive just installed windows and i lost my grub. i tried to recover it using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:17] <ubuntu> but... it says "Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no"
[01:18] <andreasdk> G`evening. Can someone please tell me how to set Dolphin as default file manager in Kubuntu 7.10?
[01:18] <Savak> ubuntu, you'll need to boot from a linux CD or grub recovery disc and restore grub
[01:18] <Jehova> and i also can open i irc channel in kopete but  i cant add a icq contact
[01:19] <Jehova> sory for my very bad english
[01:19] <ubuntu> ubuntu? oh! its me! im using kubuntu Gutsy tribe 5
[01:20] <ubuntu> Savak... K7.10 T5 live CD
[01:21] <Savak> can you use it to boot into linux?
[01:25] <mauricio> Ol, algum do Brasil ae???
[01:25] <ubuntu_> Savak... my conection was lost.
[01:25] <ubuntu_> mauricio. eu sou
[01:26] <ubuntu_> Savak... K7.10 T5 live CD >  i entered in grub (sudo grub), rooted on hd0.0, but when i typed "setup (hd0)" i got the error above
[01:26] <mauricio> Que bom que no estou sozinho rs
[01:26] <mauricio> Acabei de instalar o Kubuntu, to meio perdido testando as coisas aqui :-P
[01:26] <ubuntu_> mauricio... pergunta
[01:27] <Daisuke_Laptop> bah humbug
[01:27] <Daisuke_Laptop> !pt | mauricio
[01:27] <ubotu> mauricio: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[01:27] <Daisuke_Laptop> mugen64 can't see my controller...
[01:28] <Savak> yeah you need to do root(hd0,0) firsrt
[01:28] <Savak> first*
[01:28] <Savak> or 0,1... i forget :P
[01:29] <ubuntu_> Savak, hd0.0 only. there is no hd0.1 for me..
[01:29] <mike_moose> Savak, Might be good to use 'geometry' to see what hard drive has the boot partition on it.
[01:29] <mike_moose> i.e. geometry (hd0)
[01:29] <Braders> how do i change the directory in the terminal? i thought it was dir then the directory name?
[01:29] <mike_moose> or geometry (hd1)
[01:30] <mike_moose> Braders, use "cd"
[01:30] <Savak> yeah prob best, the second digit is refering to partition ubuntu_, so prob 0,1 but try mike_moose's suggestion :)
[01:30] <Braders> arr thats the one lol thanks
[01:32] <ubuntu_> mike_moose: i get 3 partitions. 0 (FAT with windows), 4 (reiserfs with kubuntu) and 5 (linux swap)
[01:32] <Braders> im trying to install a flash plugin and i have extracted the files to a file on the desktop, have gone into terminal and typed cd then dir name and i keep getting -bash: cd: install_flash_player_9_linux: No such file or directory
[01:33] <underdog5004> Braders, when you're in the dir above the target dir, do this: ls
[01:33] <underdog5004> or rather, ls | grep flash
[01:33] <mike_moose> ubuntu_, did you do geometry (hd0) ?
[01:34] <mike_moose> arg
[01:34] <ubuntu_> yep
[01:34] <mike_moose> then it'd be root (hd0, 4)
[01:34] <Savak> not if you want grub installed on first partition?
[01:35] <ubuntu_> hmmm the root i put on grub is the linux root partition... it explains a lot...
[01:35] <Savak> generally it should be on first hard disk, first partition, so usually always 0,1
[01:35] <mike_moose> since you don't seem to have the directory /boot on its own partition
[01:36] <mike_moose> Savak - grub is usually installs into the MBR, unless you need to install elsewhere
[01:36] <ubuntu__> thanks guys. i this it will work
[01:36] <mike_moose> right on
[01:37] <Savak> yes mike_moose :P
[01:37] <mike_moose> Savak, but you probably knew that. :)
[01:37] <Savak> hehe yeah, had a lot of experience with grub
[01:37] <underdog5004> Braders, you figure it out?
[01:37] <Savak> now if only I could get Guarddog to do what it's supposed to
[01:38] <Savak> lol
[01:38] <mike_moose> Braders, you can use the tab key to do completion too.
[01:38] <Fraction> hi, got a question:
[01:39] <underdog5004> mike_moose, I think that his "flash" dir is in his Desktop dir
[01:39] <underdog5004> Fraction, what's up?
[01:39] <mike_moose> Braders, what happens if you type "ls" ?
[01:39] <mike_moose> Braders, do you see the directory you're trying to enter?
[01:40] <Fraction> underdog5004 When I use the 2.6.20-15-generic kernel my wlan works fine, but as soon as I use the 2.6.20-16-generic - as soon as I chose a network to connect to the computor crashes and I have to reboot it.. what might be wrong?
[01:40] <Braders> i see it on my desktop not in the terminal
[01:40] <Braders> only can get on the desktop on terminal
[01:40] <underdog5004> Fraction, did you have to compile the driver for your wireless card?
[01:40] <mike_moose> Braders, what does the command pwd output?
[01:40] <Braders> /home/braders
[01:40] <Fraction> underdog5004 no it was included in both the kernels
[01:40] <mike_moose> excellent
[01:40] <underdog5004> Fraction, do you have to use ndiswrapper?
[01:40] <mike_moose> try cd Desktop
[01:41] <underdog5004> oh, ok
[01:41] <underdog5004> ummm
[01:41] <Braders> no such file
[01:41] <underdog5004> Fraction, did you play around with your kernel configuration?
[01:41] <mike_moose> really?
[01:41] <mike_moose> hrm
[01:41] <underdog5004> Braders, Desktop
[01:41] <underdog5004> not desktop
[01:41] <Braders> nope still dont work
[01:42] <underdog5004> Braders, what are you typing, exactly?
[01:42] <mike_moose> what's the output from ls?
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> Braders: hey... wireless working?
[01:42] <Fraction> underdog5004 no I didnt, just with the graphics card settings everything else is as it was when I installed it
[01:42] <Braders> i have this up though in front of were i type braders@braders-desktop:~$
[01:42] <underdog5004> Fraction, weird...which driver does it use?
[01:42] <Braders> braders@braders-desktop:~$ ls
[01:42] <Braders> Desktop  Examples
[01:42] <Braders> thats what i get..
[01:42] <mike_moose> ok
[01:43] <mike_moose> Braders, type: cd Desktop
[01:43] <mike_moose> mind the capital d
[01:43] <Savak> lol was gonna say that mike_moose
[01:43] <Braders> ok there
[01:43] <Fraction> underdog5004: kinda new to linux but is this relevant? :) Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[01:44] <mike_moose> Now type cd <folder name>
[01:44] <mike_moose> Braders, are you using firefox?
[01:44] <Braders> ok yea that worked
[01:44] <underdog5004> Fraction, that's pretty strange...intel stuff usually works nicely...I have no idea to help you, sorry
[01:44] <Braders> yea i am using firefox
[01:44] <mike_moose> Braders, excellent! Welcome to the command line.
[01:44] <kkathman> lol
[01:44] <Braders> :-) thanks
[01:45] <Fraction> underdog5004: alright, thanks for your time
[01:45] <kkathman> cli rules :)
[01:45] <underdog5004> Braders, you know you can install the flash plugin for firefox from the repos, right?
[01:45] <underdog5004> Fraction, np
[01:45] <NickPresta> Braders, http://www.linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php Check that out. It is invaluable.
[01:45] <Braders> nope?
[01:45] <Braders> cool thanks ppl
[01:45] <mike_moose> It's easier to use firefox to install it.
[01:45] <Braders> is it
[01:45] <mike_moose> The built-in installer works fine. Just have to find a flash app, and follow the wizard.
[01:46] <Braders> flash app?
[01:46] <underdog5004> Braders, try to watch a youtube video
[01:47] <mike_moose> Braders, a page with flash on it.
[01:47] <underdog5004> there will be a yellow bar at the top of the page...click on it, follow the instructions
[01:47] <AirstrikeIvanov> Firefox installer for Flash has NEVER worked for me.
[01:47] <Braders> yea i tried youtube it woudlnt allow me to, have to do it manually
[01:47] <rdvon> amarok can play pls files right?
[01:47] <AirstrikeIvanov> it always says manual install required, so where do you get that itd work from
[01:48] <Braders> thats what i got
[01:48] <hayami> hi anyone knows how to use eclipse? xD
[01:48] <underdog5004> AirstrikeIvanov, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:48] <underdog5004> or something like that
[01:48] <AirstrikeIvanov> i already have it installed
[01:48] <AirstrikeIvanov> but Braders cant install it using Firefox
[01:48] <AirstrikeIvanov> Nobody can
[01:48] <underdog5004> I can
[01:49] <AirstrikeIvanov> Hm, youd be the only one
[01:49] <Biovore> AirstrikeIvanov: flash works here with my firefox using that approach
[01:49] <mike_moose> AirstrikeIvanov, I don't know why it doesn't work for some folks.
[01:50] <Biovore> AMD64 ?
[01:50] <Biovore> ^ has problems with that
[01:50] <AirstrikeIvanov> No, Firefoxs automatic plugin installer
[01:50] <Biovore> ah
[01:50] <AirstrikeIvanov> Anyways, on to my own problem
[01:50] <mike_moose> I'm using the regular old i386 binaries.
[01:50] <AirstrikeIvanov> I tried to do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade my KDE 4 beta, and it just does this and stops. I cant uninstall or install ANYTHING now, because apt-get -f install just does the same response: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36387/
[01:50] <rdvon> Why wont amarok let me listen to shoutcasts/ internet radio stations?
[01:51] <Biovore> AirstrikeIvanov: kde4 is alpha..  only devs should use it..
[01:51] <Biovore> rdvon: they work here..
[01:51] <AirstrikeIvanov> Biovore: Im learning to dev Plasmoids
[01:51] <NickPresta> rdvon, what makes you think Amarok isn't letting you? I listen to lastfm radio all the time...
[01:51] <AirstrikeIvanov> for KDE4 Plasma
[01:51] <Biovore> AirstrikeIvanov: cool.. just remember that everything os broken..
[01:52] <rdvon> NickPresta: I get an error, whatever. Have you tried idobi radio?
[01:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> i assume you have the proper codec installed for mp3 playback?
[01:52] <rdvon> Daisuke_Laptop: er....
[01:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> libxine-extracodecs
[01:53] <rdvon> I'm gettin 'em
[01:53] <rdvon> Here's a good question: why did frozen bubble ditch their pretty artistic graphics for the junk they currently have?! >:O
[01:53] <NickPresta> rdvon, you will have to provide a link for me. I don't know what idobi radio is :)
[01:53] <AirstrikeIvanov> Biovore: Yeah, I think my apt is broken now too because of it.
[01:54] <Biovore> AirstrikeIvanov: yup  it does that..
[01:54] <AirstrikeIvanov> Oh well
[01:54] <AirstrikeIvanov> I just formatted last week
[01:54] <rdvon> NickPresta: http://www.idobi.com/radio/ :)
[01:54] <AirstrikeIvanov> Not much to lose in a second one, lmao
[01:55] <Biovore> rdvon: works here..
[01:56] <Biovore> takes 2 tires..  because its a aac stream
[01:56] <rdvon> I needed the codecs...
[01:56] <Biovore> you have to catch the stream when its sending a header..
[01:56] <Biovore>  Now Playing  --  Amber Pacific - Falling Away  --    --  0 ms
[01:56] <NickPresta> heh
[01:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> listening to sky fm
[01:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> all 80's all the time :D
[01:56] <rdvon> :D
[01:56] <rdvon> link?
[01:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> right now kickin some glenn frey
[01:57] <NickPresta> Amber Pacific - Falling Away...Alternative, Rock, Punk...128 kbps...http://67.159.5.35:80 works for me
[01:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> err
[01:57] <rdvon> err?
[01:58] <rdvon> I made a great kicker background. :)
[01:58] <rdvon> couldnt stand the transparent one..
[01:58] <Biovore> there are alot of them out there on kde-look.org.. just search for kicker
[01:58] <rdvon> I prefer mine.
[01:59] <rdvon> http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s70/rdvon/brushedmetal-kicker-noshine.png
[01:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> rdvon: http://www.sky.fm/
[01:59] <tinin> you all should try the last version of Bmpx, it has some great radio stations lists, as well as lastfm support, I preffer it rather than amarok when I want to listen to some new music
[02:00] <Biovore> rdvon: looks nice..  should post it on kde-look.org
[02:00] <rdvon> I will... later.
[02:01] <rdvon> I got a couple amarok themes, but They dont skin the whole program :\
[02:01] <rdvon> stupid amarok :<
[02:01] <Biovore> rdvon: yeah.. there are some more options but it relies on the system scheme
[02:02] <rdvon> heh.. :\
[02:02] <rdvon> what's the name of the codec pack again
[02:02] <rdvon> *?
[02:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> libxine-extracodecs
[02:02] <rdvon> thanks :)
[02:04] <rdvon> now it's working, thanks!
[02:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> eddy grant right now, time to switch stations :(
[02:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> ooh, abba
[02:06] <rdvon> It's weird though, because the internet radio streams played automatically in rhythmbox :\
[02:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> not really, rhythmbox relies on the gstreamer mp3 plugin
[02:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> which amarok doesn't
[02:07] <rdvon> ah.
[02:07] <elite101> #console-bash where we bash on consoles :D
[02:07] <elite101> please go there :D
[02:09] <elite101> #console-bash bashing consoles since the atari and intellivision came out'
[02:09] <AirstrikeIvanov> i like to bash mine with bricks
[02:09] <AirstrikeIvanov> XD
[02:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> !spam
[02:10] <ubotu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[02:10] <elite101> :( not spaM
[02:10] <elite101> but if it is sorry
[02:11] <Savak> !Attitude
[02:11] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:11] <Savak> was curious hehe
[02:11] <terrestre> lol
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> !botsnack
[02:12] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[02:13] <Savak> lol, now *thats* geeky
[02:13] <rignes> Hey there, I have a tc4200 laptop w/ a USB external CD drive.  When I unplug the drive it sometimes gets confused and then wont work when I plug the drive back in.  I should clarify that statement in that the drive works and I can manually mount it but the automatic stuff where it puts the icon on your desktop and mounts it does not.  Is there a procedure I should go though to "stop" the CD drive and prep it for r
[02:14] <dthacker-lt> rignes: if its already on your desktop you can right click and "safely remove".  That may help.
[02:14] <rignes> Hmmm, Ididn't notice that option before...
[02:15] <dthacker-lt> rignes: there's a bunch of 'em :)
[02:15] <rignes> Hmmm...I don't see the option but it may be because it's in it's "screwed up" state at the moment.  I might need to reboot to get it normal again.
[02:16] <rignes> dthacker-lt: I better reboot and it it normal...thanks for the tip.  I'll take a look for it after the reboot.
[02:22] <tatters> anyone running tribe 5 with a second hard ?
[02:22] <tatters> drive^
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> tatters: separate partition here...
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> tatters: #ubuntu+1
[02:23] <tatters> yk
[02:24] <garfield> nosrednaekim: how do i see my contacts pic in kotepe??
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> garfield: dunno, I don't use kopete
[02:25] <garfield> nosrednaekim: witch do u use?
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> gaim/pidgin
[02:25] <_2> anyone know a game simular in look to 'asc' but not nearly as many options ?     i remember seeing a game that i want to revisit  but have no idea what it was called ?
[02:25] <Savak> under settings
[02:26] <Savak> apperance -> contact list
[02:26] <Savak> check 'use contact photo's when available'
[02:27] <_2> i might like asc if i could see it   but on this monitor it's way to small to read anything...   15"
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> _2: asc?
[02:27] <_2> !info asc
[02:27] <ubotu> asc: turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.16.3.0-3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2338 kB, installed size 5684 kB
[02:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> !wesnoth
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wesnoth - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> !info wesnoth
[02:28] <ubotu> wesnoth: fantasy turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1937 kB, installed size 4396 kB
[02:29] <pochoclo> Hola
[02:30] <pochoclo> Mmm . . .
[02:30] <pochoclo> Y la gente ? ? ?
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> !es
[02:30] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:32] <frank__> how can I prevent the KDE taskbar from appearing on my TVout screen? (DISPLAY=:0.1)
[02:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> you have tv-out :\
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> frank__: make your taskbar hide itself.
[02:33] <ch40s> turn auto hide on?
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: that thing doens't have Svideo?
[02:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> it *has* svideo
[02:33] <frank__> nosrednaekim: will it work just for that screen?
[02:34] <nosrednaekim> nope... everywhere
[02:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> i have as of yet not been able to get it to work.
[02:34] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[02:34] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: works here with ATI...
[02:34] <ch40s> what card is it dais?
[02:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> intel 965
[02:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm sure i could get it working with nvidia
[02:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> but that isn't an option.
[02:35] <ch40s> cant use dual monitors and TV-out =[
[02:35] <tekstacy> Does k have any sort of "alarm clock" feature?
[02:36] <tekstacy> Or can someone reccomed one?
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> !info kalarm
[02:36] <ubotu> kalarm: KDE alarm message, command and email scheduler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu6 (feisty), package size 644 kB, installed size 1892 kB
[02:36] <tekstacy> er, reccomend even
[02:36] <tekstacy> Cool, thanks
[02:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> wonder how painful upgrading to gutsy would be right now
[02:38] <BluesKaj> well, it was disappointing for me , Daisuke_Laptop, but you prolly don't suffer fromthe AYO blues
[02:38] <BluesKaj> ATI
[02:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> ?
[02:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah
[02:38] <_2> well i knew it was a long shot that anyone would be able to answer that.   i'll keep looking... although i've been through the package info twice...  nothing sounded familear
[02:38] <BluesKaj> no 3D or DRI
[02:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> no ati, though support for the x3100 in gutwsy is supposed to be far superior
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: its not the upgrading part... it the sticking through the alphas..
[02:39] <frank__> nosrednaekim: actually you were right. Autohide works just for that screen!
[02:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> gutsy
[02:39] <ch40s> Karti:  does the  -noapic parameter force my PCI drivers out of installation?
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> frank_really?
[02:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> nosrednaekim: that's why i'm willing to hop on the bandwagon now
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> ok..:)
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> I was wrong then ;)
[02:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> this is about when i started testing feisty :)
[02:39] <tekstacy> Hmm, I found kalarm, but it describes it as a backgammon game for KDE    :)
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> ch40s: shouldn't
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> lol
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> try it anyway
[02:40] <_2> nosrednaekim nice to be right when you are wrong eh ?  :)
[02:40] <ch40s> nosrednaekim:  my mini pci slots dont recognize my wireless card anymore
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> _2: lol
[02:41] <tekstacy> curious, I did install it, cause I figured it was a mistake. After it installed, it showed the correct descripton. And I swear I'm not stoned!
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> ch40s: oh... hmm
[02:42] <ch40s> i wouldnt know if the drivers would work had i not used the -noapic, considering it was the only way i could get the Live CD running
[02:42] <parsnip> hi all
[02:42] <ch40s> or, first thing that allowed me to at lesat
[02:42] <ch40s> *least
[02:42] <ch40s> just wanted to know if i could factor that possibility in, ty
[02:43] <parsnip> can anyone tell me how to get the app launcher that sits on the panel. It lets you have 4 programs on there
[02:43] <parsnip> i removed it ages ago and would like it back
[02:43] <sFEARs> hello
[02:44] <tekstacy> Um, I'm new here, can someone tell me CL command to make amarok play a song?
[02:44] <manikfox> amarok -play?
[02:44] <tekstacy> Or even just make alot of noise, for my alarm clock
[02:44] <ch40s> parsnip:  right click>Add Applet, possibly
[02:44] <_2> parsnip the desktop switcher applet ?
[02:45] <dudeicles> does anyone know of a free driver for canon printers?
[02:45] <manikfox> amarok --play or --p one of those
[02:45] <parsnip> _2: it lets you pick 4 apps and it makes the icons tiny in a 2 x 2 grid
[02:45] <tekstacy> manifox! Thx!
[02:46] <_2> i think he may be talking about the default four vertual desktops in the desktop switcher applet    not sure.
[02:46] <parsnip> _2: its Quicklauncher
[02:46] <parsnip> _2: just went through them all til i hit it
[02:46] <enotee> how do i install an rpm manually....Kubuntu 7.04
[02:46] <parsnip> ch40s: found it
[02:47] <ch40s> parsnip: was it in there?
[02:47] <_2> quicklauncher is not on by default ???     /me is confused again.
[02:47] <parsnip> ch40s: yeah man, just wasnt sure what it was called
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> enotee: are you sure you need to? what app is it?
[02:47] <manikfox> tekstacy, no prob
[02:48] <enotee> the latest flash plugin
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> enotee: there is a deb for it..
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> (at least there was for the previous version)
[02:48] <enotee> how do i do that
[02:49] <_2> !flash
[02:49] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> enotee: do what?
[02:49] <enotee> install the deb
[02:49] <brewmaster> is it possible to hook up an external HD to one of those USB dvd players?
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> enotee: "sudo dpkg -i <deb>.deb"
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> where <deb> is replaced by the path to the .deb
[02:50] <parsnip> ch40s, _2:thanks for the help guys..peace out
[02:50] <ch40s> late
[02:50] <enotee> thanks i'll try that
[02:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> mmmkay
[02:51] <frank__> !Gnash
[02:51] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[02:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> something just happened and it wasn't happy
[02:51] <frank__> is gnash any good?
[02:52] <_2> daisuke electronic or in the real world ?
[02:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> electronic
[02:52] <manikfox> why you need it? just install the firefox32
[02:52] <manikfox> frank_
[02:52] <tekstacy> I have an external hdd, it has 3 partitons, but when I plug it in k only sees one. How can I fix this
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: software or hardware?
[02:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> software
[02:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> i think
[02:53] <manikfox> tekstacy, what kind of partitions?
[02:53] <_2> manikfox may not be a case of "need"   possably "want"
[02:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> WSOD starting compiz
[02:53] <manikfox> __2 true, no real want for it, its a flash plugin, as long as the videos play right?
[02:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> though i'm still using the intel driver...  nothing else bad seems to have happened.
[02:54] <tekstacy> I believe it is 2 ntfs and 1 fat32, it sees the fat 32.    It was my old windows system drive
[02:54] <garfield> nosrednaekim:  how do i put beryl back to default?
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> garfield: hmm dunno.
[02:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> yeah, gutsy here i come!
[02:54] <_2> manikfox no.  could factor in a FOSS mentality and you would come up with gnash :)
[02:54] <tekstacy> I really miss those gigs of music on there....
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: ell me how it goes..
[02:55] <scienceboy> how do i figure how much ram i have on this laptop? i can't navigate 'hardware information'
[02:55] <manikfox> __2 your right, but its not exactly coming out of your pocket to use the flash one
[02:55] <_2> scienceboy free
[02:55] <manikfox> tekstacy, you have to mount them
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> scienceboy: "free -m"
[02:56] <tekstacy> ok, how?
[02:56] <_2> manikfox free as in beer != free as in speach  :)
[02:56] <manikfox> tekstacy, as ntfs-3g, mount /dev/hda or /dev/sdb1, which ever device it is
[02:56] <scienceboy> thanks!
[02:57] <manikfox> __2, ah, now I understand
[02:57] <_2> scienceboy and if you want more info    less /proc/meminfo
[02:57] <scienceboy> is the the number next to mem: and under total?
[02:58] <tekstacy> cool, thanks, I will give that a try. Wish I had thought to back all that stuf up BEFORE I broke windows
[02:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> this should be able to be handled by replacing feisty in sources.list with gutsy, and doing an update/dist-upgrade, correct?
[02:59] <scienceboy> allright, thanks!
[02:59] <_2> yeah.  but a few things may strill break that have not been ported to the gutsy repos yet Daisuke_Laptop
[03:00] <dudeicles> is there anything better than TurboPrint for print drivers?
[03:02] <tekstacy> Goodnight all. Thanks for the help
[03:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> what's the worst thing that could happen?
[03:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> i get left having to restore from dell's grub option?
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: I think thats what you do..
[03:04] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: I also think there is an upgrade tool
[03:04] <nosrednaekim> GUI
[03:04] <nosrednaekim> ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:05] <Max-P_> Hi, Can KPPP disconnect from the internet when there is an incomming call?
[03:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> Arwen: i wish i knew
[03:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> i've lost 3 spots in the idlerpg i play :(
[03:07] <Arwen> It can't even detect being killed by an ircop.
[03:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> because it doesn't autoreconnect properly :\
[03:07] <Arwen> And you can't force a reconnect, you have to wait for it to timeout..
[03:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh yeah, wish me luck
[03:07] <_2> ssh error     Permission denied (publickey,password).
[03:07] <_2> ?
[03:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> 25 minutes to go on the upgrade part
[03:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> think i'll throw on some futurama
[03:08] <Arwen> Futurama :-\
[03:09] <_2> anyone have a clue-by-four they can hit me with on that one?
[03:10] <_2> Arwen turn autoreconnect off ?
[03:10] <Arwen> meh
[03:10] <Arwen> does Konversation have an auto-rejoin on kick?
[03:10] <_2> i'm sure
[03:10] <Jucato> nope
[03:11] <_2> Jucato no ?    you mean that konversation is the only irc client that doesn't have that option ?
[03:11] <Jucato> yep
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[03:12] <Jucato> the feature seems to be considered annoying on the part of devs/operators... kick for doing something, rejoin... kick, rejoin...
[03:13] <_2> like duh.  if the op in Q doesn't want you to rejoin that's what ban is for...
[03:14] <NickPresta> _2, usually if you were kicked, it means wait a little while and cool off before coming back. It doesn't mean "Please come back in 3 seconds"
[03:15] <_2> usually if i was kicked, it means i remounted jucato's system nosuid    :)))
[03:15] <sayers> Is there a way to take a presentation in Open office or Koffice and make a movie out of it to play on a dvd player?
[03:16] <_2> !capture
[03:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about capture - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:20] <rignes> dthacker-lt: Hey there, I'm finally back.  I rebooted but the CD icon on the desktop doesn't have a "Remove Safely" option when I right click it.
[03:22] <dthacker-lt> rignes: then I'm not sure what else to try.   Can you leave it plugged in?  get a hub
[03:23] <rignes> It's not a big deal, I'll mess with it and see what I can work out.
[03:23] <rignes> Thanks for the suggestion though.
[03:25] <dudeicles> If I have a printer that is usb what type of driver should I use?
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> dudeicles: depends on your printer
[03:26] <Sirius> Hi there everyone, got a question anyone avaliable for an hint ? is there any support for the nv GeForce Go 7200 ? Thks
[03:26] <dudeicles> what's the difference between CUPS, LPD, LPRing, PDQ or what else
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> Sirius: yup..
[03:27] <Sirius> nosrednaekim:  hmmm Remmember me ??
[03:27] <Sirius> lol
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> nope...
[03:27] <Sirius> :P
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> too many people come through here
[03:27] <Sirius> nosrednaekim:  can you point me into an direction ?
[03:27] <dudeicles> well according to the Openprinting database my recommended driver is bj8pa06n.upp
[03:27] <Jucato> !printer
[03:27] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:28] <dudeicles> how do I install how do I install ah
[03:28] <Jucato> dudeicles: just try adding your printer. the driver might be installed already
[03:28] <dudeicles> cups how do I install using a cups?
[03:28] <win-X-perts> anyone know how to get all the domain with ebay.com in the ame
[03:28] <dudeicles> it's not
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> !nvidia | Sirius
[03:28] <ubotu> Sirius: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:28] <dudeicles> or I didn't see it.
[03:28] <win-X-perts> s/ame/name
[03:28] <Jucato> Syste Settings -> Printers?
[03:29] <Sirius> nosrednaekim:  Many thanks, your helping me for the secong time, can wait for me to be able to help someone in this channel :) once again thanks
[03:29] <dudeicles> printer is crashing
[03:29] <nosrednaekim> Sirius: lol... I still don't remeber who you are.
[03:29] <Sirius> i meant "CanT"
[03:29] <dudeicles> may have to reboot
[03:29] <dudeicles> brb
[03:29] <Sirius> that's not qa problem I remmember you
[03:29] <_2_> why doesn't   "ListenAddress 192.168.0.0/16"  work in sshd.conf ?
[03:29] <Jucato> re-what? O.o
[03:30] <Sirius> nosrednaekim:  I was the guy with the SpeedTouch problem that just couldn't use nothing more than w3m and the IRC client
[03:30] <Sirius> nosrednaekim:  anyway it's not important :)
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> Sirius: ah yes! did you fix that?
[03:30] <Sirius> Sure format new install
[03:30] <Sirius> lol
[03:30] <Sirius> and then
[03:31] <Sirius> Fu**k speetouch and Welcome Wifi
[03:31] <Sirius> I do want my machine running Kubuntu :)
[03:31] <yurimxpxman> how can I setup my own bittorrent tracker?
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> :)
[03:33] <Sirius> nosrednaekim:  People like you represent the community and this for me is way to important and lets face it I'm far from being and linux guru way way tooooo far but ther's no need to be a genius, Compiz Fusion kick's vista ASS
[03:33] <Sirius> lol
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> :)
[03:34] <Sirius> nosrednaekim:  well let me get into that nvidia drive, once again thanks and keep up the god work
[03:37] <Sirius> nosrednaekim: this may make you laught but here it goes I can't find Administration  Restricted Devices Manager
[03:37] <Sirius> under the system menu
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> Sirius: i'm not laughin.... thats a ubuntu tutorial
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> :)
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> Sirius: run "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager" and then "kdesu restricted-manager"
[03:38] <Sirius> lol third time :) thanks
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> Sirius: there is a KDE version coming in the next release
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> I have to  modify that wiki...
[03:39] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim, so again, kubuntu gets the same stuff that gnome ubuntu has had for six months
[03:41] <Sirius> Well on to Reboot
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> hitmanWilly: yep..
[03:41] <hitmanWilly> sometimes i wish the kubuntu devs would come up with something so the gnome guys could be jealous of us for a change
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> like... umm... KDE?
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> lol
[03:42] <hitmanWilly> lol
[03:42] <hitmanWilly> oh well, i mainly use gentoo anyway, though kubuntu is nice on the lappy
[03:44] <hitmanWilly> heh, maybe i should learn qt and come up with something
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> you should..
[03:44] <sayers> Where is the Image magick Binary path and also where is the Mjpegtools binary path?
[03:44] <hitmanWilly> ahh, intelikey's here :)
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> sayers: "type >command name>"
[03:46] <intelikey> hitmanWilly maybe
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> "type <command name>
[03:46] <hitmanWilly> lol
[03:46] <intelikey> Permission denied (publickey,password).
[03:47] <intelikey> ssh error   ^
[03:47] <intelikey> it wont allow login as user   only as root...
[03:48] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, your ssh is set up to allow root login?
[03:49] <intelikey> hitmanWilly seems  root only
[03:49] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, that's weird
[03:49] <hitmanWilly> something off in the config file?
[03:50] <tzanger> good evening
[03:51] <intelikey> hitmanWilly no it's public key issue.    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39378
[03:51] <NickPresta> !hi | tzanger
[03:51] <ubotu> tzanger: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[03:51] <tzanger> I've got an i950 based video card and I need to override the BIOS modes for my new monitor; the ubuntu bugtracker says I need to use the updatd x11 driver for this card, but do I use xserver-xorg-intel or i850?
[03:51] <intelikey> and don't worry ssh is only listening on 192.168.*.*
[03:52] <hitmanWilly> ok
[03:52] <tzanger> ahh, I'm using i810 right now, trying the -intel driver
[03:53] <intelikey> i have redone those keys though and i still have the same problem...
[03:53] <holymoly> hey guys
[03:53] <holymoly> what might be anice simple application to backport
[03:53] <holymoly> say from gutsy
[03:53] <holymoly> something that doesn't require too many dependencies?
[03:53] <intelikey> it might be that there is no password on that box maybe ???     maybe pam is freekin' over that or something..
[03:53] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, is there something on ssh to update the gpg key ring, like apt-key add?
[03:54] <intelikey> hitmanWilly it's not gpg  but yeah i have rebuilt the keys.   (i use a script)
[03:54] <hitmanWilly> ok
[03:54] <tzanger> there we go
[03:55] <tzanger> much better
[03:55] <tzanger> thanks!
[03:55] <intelikey> i'll rebuild them again.
[03:55] <hitmanWilly> maybe, don't know how much help i can be if you use your own keygen algorithm
[03:56] <sayers> Hello is there any help using digiKam to encode a slide show?
[03:56] <intelikey> hitmanWilly  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39379
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> sayers: K3B CAN DO THAT
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> sorry caps
[03:58] <hitmanWilly> ok, are you running this from the proper directory, since the script uses a relative path?
[03:58] <sayers> nosrednaekim: well ill look into it
[03:58] <sayers> nosrednaekim: any pointers or guides on how?
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> actually, I just saw today that it is a plugin...no idea how it works or anything
[03:59] <sayers> nosrednaekim: Do you have a link
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> !info k3b-plugins
[04:00] <ubotu> Package k3b-plugins does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> !info k3b-plugin
[04:00] <ubotu> Package k3b-plugin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:00] <sayers> im on gutsy
[04:00] <sayers> ill cache search
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> k
[04:00] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, also, ssh have any updates lately? they may have changed some paths around
[04:01] <sayers> nornop
[04:01] <sayers> nosrednaekim: nope*
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> dunno what its called... seach for k3b
[04:05] <intelikey> hitmanWilly yes home dir and no *ssh* hasn't been updated.   odd thing i use the same version on several boxes, works on some not on others   but root works on all....
[04:06] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, hmmm, that is weird, you got me
[04:06] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, maybe a UID issue?
[04:07] <intelikey> hitmanWilly maybe.   i though even that i mount "nosuid" might affect it.  just checked that,  no change.
[04:07] <hitmanWilly> though I don't really see how that could affect it though...
[04:07] <hitmanWilly> firewall settings?
[04:08] <intelikey> well could be i guess  but how would that deny one user and not another ?
[04:08] <hitmanWilly> tho that wouldn't allow you to login as root either
[04:09] <intelikey> and i just sshed through one of the boxes in question to another box     so it's not firewall
[04:09] <hitmanWilly> hmm, this is weird
[04:09] <intelikey> you looked at that script ?
[04:10] <hitmanWilly> yeah, seems workable enough
[04:10] <hitmanWilly> the relative path thing was the only issue i saw that might cause issues
[04:11] <intelikey> ok i run   sshremotekey user 0.1     it makes the key file and asks for the password   works fine..     i run   sshremotekey user 1.3     and it does the same things but still requires a password to login...     idk   it's baffeled me.
[04:12] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, is the key file getting written too?
[04:12] <intelikey> then    sshremotekey root 1.3    and it works like it should...
[04:12] <intelikey> yes.   or the next test wouldn't work   ^
[04:12] <intelikey> see it's user specific
[04:12] <intelikey> and shouldn't be
[04:13] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, ok, im running out of ideas here, i'm not really all that familiar with ssh
[04:13] <intelikey> let me check UID   you might have hit it...
[04:13] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, i know that causes problems for NFS mounts
[04:14] <intelikey> no mention of my uid in the conf file
[04:14] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, hmmm, there may be a problem there
[04:18] <encom> #ubuntu-es
[04:19] <^^Varitech-VFX^^> buenas noches
[04:20] <^^Varitech-VFX^^> alguien por aca ha usado el pc-bsd
[04:20] <droach> anyone know how to get usb game controllers working in feisty
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> droach, should be autodetected when you plug it in
[04:21] <droach> where do i configure it?
[04:21] <hitmanWilly> droach, control center, peripherals
[04:22] <droach> i dont see control center do you mean system settings
[04:22] <hitmanWilly> droach, or kcontrol
[04:22] <garfield> ???
[04:24] <droach> i cant find it i must be dumb
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> droach, try alt-f2, kcontrol, then under peripherals
[04:25] <droach> thaks
[04:25] <droach> but its not auto detecting
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, is it supported?
[04:26] <droach> it shows up in kinfo cente
[04:26] <droach> center
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> droach, so it
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> so it's not showing up under joysticks?
[04:26] <intelikey> well  i give up  i guess i'll just use the root account seeing that's all i can access,
[04:26] <droach> no
[04:27] <droach> i restarted kcontrol and it fount it
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> ok
[04:27] <droach> found
[04:27] <droach> thx
[04:30] <Mattchewie> can anyone tell me if Kopete supports AIM buddy icons? as in you can an icon to broadcast to other users?
[04:31] <hitmanWilly> ok, bbl
[04:32] <intelikey> howto grep for *.* not regex ?
[04:32] <garfield> can someone help me to install my webcam to use it ?it's a creative.
[04:32] <Mattchewie> intelikey  to grep for *.* you have to wrap it in quotes "*.*"
[04:33] <intelikey> got it.   ".*\..*"
[04:33] <soulrider> !software
[04:33] <ubotu> A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[04:34] <intelikey> err no actually  needed   ".?*\..?*"
[04:34] <intelikey> looks odd works well
[04:35] <intelikey> that's anything as long as it's something then dot and anything again
[04:35] <kaldrenon> Is anyone here familiar with issues between xorg and the Intel 915 display controller? I've got Kubuntu 7.04 running on a Dell Inspiron B130, and I've been having trouble getting KDE to work
[04:38] <sirius> Hi fellows anyone avaliable? I've just installed compiz fusion under an nvidia gfx, and I'm experience a bug related to black windows, any clue??
[04:38] <Mattchewie> sirius: does it happen over time?
[04:39] <sirius> Mattchewie: It pretty much happens every time i open a window still sometimes after a few tries the window renders correctly
[04:39] <sirius> but if I resize de Window Kaput
[04:39] <sirius> it goes black again
[04:40] <Mattchewie> sirius: Hrm, I don't know if this is the same issue or not but I know when I had beryl installed it had an issue that over time, the windows would go black. Apparenlty there something in the nvidia driver and beryl didn't play well.
[04:41] <Mattchewie> In which the answer I have heard is "no fix till the driver is fixed"
[04:41] <Mattchewie> :(
[04:41] <Mattchewie> sirius: did you run beryl of compiz before hand?
[04:42] <sirius> I was readind something about that when the window faded black can you provide me the command to replace compiz with the other manager? No this is the first time i actually get compiz to work ( the other time i was way tooo busy with my speetouch modem lol)
[04:43] <sirius> Mattchewie: any idea?
[04:43] <Mattchewie> Well I don't know what all has changed in fusion, but in beryl you had the beryl manager and you could just right click on that and go back to kwin or metacity. I'm not sure of the command off the top of me ticker
[04:44] <kaldrenon> Advice, anyone? I'm getting an error when I try to log in to a KDE session, and I don't know why I'm getting it or how to fix it. The error is "(WW) intel: No matching device section for instace (BusID PCI:0:2:!) found"
[04:44] <kaldrenon> intel is my graphics driver
[04:44] <ch40s> sirius: try alt+F2 then compiz --replace
[04:44] <kaldrenon> And PCI:0:2:! is my display adapter (I tihnk)
[04:44] <Mattchewie> ahh yeah thats it, --replace
[04:44] <sirius> Mattchewie: I do enjoy an fancy desktop can you provide me with some other nice system to replace compiz ?
[04:44] <sirius> ch40s: thank you
[04:45] <sirius> Mattchewie: thank you :)
[04:45] <ch40s> np
[04:45] <intelikey> anyone want to test a script ?     http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39381
[04:45] <Mattchewie> intelikey: KEYLOGGER!! ..heheh I kid, a little old school WoW forum humor. :|
[04:46] <Mattchewie> sirius: well there is another system out there, let me get you the right spelling for it
[04:46] <intelikey> Mattchewie :)
[04:46] <sirius> Mattchewie: Thanks I'll wait :)
[04:47] <Mattchewie> sirius: Ok, well there isn't a package for it but its called Metisse
[04:47] <AirstrikeIvanov> Nice keylogger
[04:47] <AirstrikeIvanov> It seems like one anyways lol
[04:47] <sirius> Mattchewie: I'm gona try to check it thanks
[04:47] <AirstrikeIvanov> Anyone here know how to fix your APT when it tries to install both kde4libs and kde5libs?
[04:47] <Mattchewie> They have utube video on it if you want to see it in action
[04:47] <Mattchewie> *youtube
[04:48] <AirstrikeIvanov> Im stuck in a infinite dependency-error loop in my APT D=
[04:48] <sirius> gona check it :)
[04:48] <intelikey> AirstrikeIvanov pastebin the error message
[04:49] <Mattchewie> kaldrenon: have you done a "dmesg" and looked at the output? See if there was any issue during boot up etc?
[04:50] <kaldrenon> Mattchewie: I haven't, no. I'll go do that now
[04:50] <sirius> Mattchewie: Hmm thankyou but it is just not what i was expecting, well the 3d and all the compiz plugins are just graet, anyone know about a sucessor for compiz or beryl without an known compatibilty issue related to nvidia cards?
[04:51] <AirstrikeIvanov> Uh
[04:51] <AirstrikeIvanov> Nope
[04:51] <Mattchewie> sirius: compiz fusion is pretty much it when it comes to the whizbang factor in linux
[04:51] <AirstrikeIvanov> I use nvidia, and compiz fusion wont even install
[04:51] <AirstrikeIvanov> And #compiz-fusion just ran me around in circles for an hour and a half instead of actually helping
[04:51] <Mattchewie> AirstrikeIvanov: haha same, but then again, I haven't put much effort into it since its all new.
[04:51] <AirstrikeIvanov> yeah
[04:52] <AirstrikeIvanov> this is old hardware anyways
[04:52] <AirstrikeIvanov> cant support running a Wine game in GL without a segmentation fault
[04:52] <Mattchewie> Really I just missed the expose` esk feature, so I installed Kompose
[04:52] <Mattchewie> :D
[04:52] <AirstrikeIvanov> yeah
[04:52] <AirstrikeIvanov> Wait
[04:52] <sirius> AirstrikeIvanov: I'm not an expert lol not even near that, but I had to install the correct drives for my Geforce go 7200 if you want to try your luck i can point you to the tutorial i've used, still it is in portuguese but I woulb be glad to translate it for you :)
[04:53] <AirstrikeIvanov> Ugh
[04:53] <AirstrikeIvanov> I used Envy for it Sirius
[04:53] <AirstrikeIvanov> Im on the nvidia X server as we speak :P
[04:53] <AirstrikeIvanov> Beryl had worked, once
[04:53] <AirstrikeIvanov> N ow it just segmentation faults and crashes
[04:53] <intelikey> AirstrikeIvanov you want me to try to help with dpkg ?  or no ?
[04:53] <AirstrikeIvanov> intelikey: I m pasting, hold up
[04:54] <AirstrikeIvanov> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36393/
[04:54] <sirius> lol that kinda remmembers one thing ... what's the name.... hmmm Windows? lol , joke :))
[04:54] <AirstrikeIvanov> i went and installed the KDE 4 beta
[04:54] <kaldrenon> Mattchewie: nothing's poppoing out at me. FYI, when I log in via console and become root with "sudo su", startx launches a KDE session successfully. But when I attempt to log in under my username from the graphical login, or by logging in via console and NOT becoming root, the session borks
[04:54] <AirstrikeIvanov> cause i am trying to learn to develop Plasmoids
[04:55] <Mattchewie> kaldrenon: did you just do this install or have you had it installed for a while now?
[04:56] <sparr> when first running a new version of kde i was asked if i wanted kde or windows style keyboard shortcuts.  how can i change that decision?
[04:56] <wersdaluv> is there something like os x's spotlight for kde?
[04:56] <intelikey> AirstrikeIvanov ok you have something wrong in the /etc/apt/sources.list  it looks like.  care to pastebin it ?
[04:56] <sirius> I'm currently evolving from the Windows environment to the Unix systems I guess that it still requieres the time I don't have, I'm losing my hope on Kubuntu, I need and ready and reliable system so that I can get my work done as quicky as I can ( anyway not complaining Im in love for kubuntu, it is just not realiable enought)
[04:57] <kaldrenon> Mattchewie: It's a new install. I installed it yesterday, and everything worked fine. I made a few minor config changes, but nothing severe. But I had to reboot this morning, and I couldn't get a KDE session to start after that.
[04:57] <intelikey> AirstrikeIvanov ummm how did you install the kde4 beta ?
[04:57] <Mattchewie> kaldrenon: what kidn of config changes? any thing to xorg.conf?
[04:57] <AirstrikeIvanov> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36366/ And yes, I followed the link and installed it exactly. Unfortunately, nothing at all worked inside KDE4, including Amarok
[04:58] <AirstrikeIvanov> Amarok had just kept claiming that there was no sound engine
[04:58] <AirstrikeIvanov> (Im currently listening to last.fm streams and it works fine in non-beta KDE)
[04:58] <kaldrenon> Mattchewie: yes, but every time I made changes I restarted X in order to test them. IIRC there were no changes to xorg.conf between my last successful session and the reboot
[04:59] <Mattchewie> sirius: Linux is very stable but once you start adding all those effects etc you will find some instablity in the Desktop Environment. If you just run it as is, I have never had an isssue
[04:59] <sirius> well guys many thanks for your help, you've been of great help :)
[04:59] <Mattchewie> kaldrenon: Did you do these edits by hand or did a tool do them?
[04:59] <sirius> Mattchewie: as my RTOS for my PIC 16f84 stable but no that usefull
[05:00] <AirstrikeIvanov> sirius: Linux is quite stable indeed, till you start mucking around. It usually ends with extra trips to this chat room D:
[05:00] <kaldrenon> Mattchewie: I used dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:00] <soulrider> !compiling
[05:00] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:00] <Mattchewie> kaldrenon: trying to install a driver or change rez for your monitor?
[05:01] <AirstrikeIvanov> intelikey: I followed the link in the topic of this channel.
[05:01] <kaldrenon> Mattchewie: yeah. My laptop has an Intel 915 display controller, so in order to get a rez greater than 1024x768 I had to apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[05:01] <sirius> AirstrikeIvanov:  the thing is Vista sucks but XP with some nice updates can become a very solid workstation, and it just doesn't requier all this effort I just plug my modem and I'm ready to go, I guess it's manufacters fault to don't provide the fair suport to linux
[05:02] <Mattchewie> sirius: phone modem?
[05:02] <sirius> SpeedTouch ADSL modem (st330)
[05:02] <AirstrikeIvanov> sirius: Indeed. Best to use wired ethernet with an NVidia graphics card. Least amount of worry.
[05:02] <Ayres> ola
[05:03] <sirius> I got it work but i just couldn't use konkeror nither anythen apart from the w3m
[05:03] <sirius> Ayres: Ol
[05:03] <sirius> Ayres:
[05:03] <Mattchewie> sirius: oh see, I run EVERYTHING through my router. So it takes care of all that fun PPoE sign in stuff :D
[05:03] <sirius> Ayres:  s portugues, Eres espaol ??
[05:03] <intelikey> AirstrikeIvanov backports may be causing the problem.    here's what i would try,   first comment out the two backports lines in the sources.list  and  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f      if that doesn't fix it.  you'll probably have to force a remove on the kde4/5 stuff to ever get it streightened out.   (( sudo dpkg --force-all -P kde4base kde4base-dev kdelibs5-dev kdelibs5 kde4libs-data kdepimlibs4 kdepiml
[05:03] <Mattchewie> kaldrenon: Lets try this
[05:04] <Ayres> Portogues..
[05:04] <Ayres> ma pod esser in Italianao
[05:04] <Mattchewie> kaldrenon: alt+f2, type "konsole" in the run box, then "sudo su -".
[05:04] <sirius> para que, lol eu sou portugues ;) e o italiano s arranho um pouco
[05:04] <Jucato> !it | Ayres
[05:05] <ubotu> Ayres: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:05] <Jucato> er...
[05:05] <intelikey> possably followed by a -f  ^
[05:05] <Mattchewie> GASP!!!! I'm out of smokes
[05:05] <Jucato> !pt | Ayres
[05:05] <ubotu> Ayres: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:05] <Jucato> (not thinking straight toady...)
[05:05] <n8k99_> Jucato!
[05:05] <sirius> Jucato: toady ? :) We can see that
[05:05] <Jucato> hi n8k99!!! :)
[05:06] <dudeicles> does anyone here use kdm theme manager?
[05:06] <kaldrenon> Mattchewie: done (Was already there since I was scanning aptitude regarding something else)
[05:06] <garfield> stdin: you there?
[05:06] <Jucato> dudeicles: what's the problem?
[05:06] <intelikey> sudo aptitude remove -f    might give a different optional course.
[05:06] <n8k99> dudeicles: yes i do
[05:06] <sirius> Mattchewie: well f**k teh fancy desktop I'm with Kubuntu for good :D
[05:07] <sirius> *the
[05:07] <dudeicles> Jucato: it says to change my them I need to click the "Administrator Mode" button
[05:07] <dudeicles> there is no button. LOL
[05:07] <Jucato> ah yes that bug
[05:07] <dudeicles> bug huh? lol
[05:07] <Mattchewie> kaldrenon: "cd /etc/X11/" then "ls xorg.*" and let me know how many files you get :D
[05:07] <dudeicles> why me?
[05:07] <dudeicles> :P
[05:07] <Jucato> dudeicles: press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol" go to System Administration -> KDM Theme Manager
[05:07] <sirius> Mattchewie: do you know any good resources for KDE Themes ?
[05:07] <AirstrikeIvanov> intelikey: Youre freakin awesome.
[05:07] <Mattchewie> sirius: hehe good, If my girlfriend can use it I'm sure you can :P
[05:07] <AirstrikeIvanov> intelikey: Its removing all the KDE4 beta packages now.
[05:07] <Mattchewie> sirius: kde-look.org is where I will go
[05:08] <dudeicles> that's much better
[05:08] <dudeicles> thank you Jucato
[05:08] <AirstrikeIvanov> intelikey: Now is the KDE 4 beta actually usable, or is it mostly for development?
[05:08] <kaldrenon> Mattchewie: I have two. xorg.conf and a backup made by dpkg, timsetamped at about three in the afternoon, which is sadly after this problem started.
[05:08] <sirius> Mattchewie: Lol my girlfrind it's on Genetic Research Bioknopixx is it's world lol even her can kick my ass on linux lol :)
[05:09] <dudeicles> if I download a theme from kde-look.org where would I put it to install?
[05:09] <intelikey> AirstrikeIvanov    when you think you have that sorted out,  run   sudo apt-get install -f     just to be sure everything is ok in the deps department...
[05:09] <Jucato> AirstrikeIvanov: http://dot.kde.org/1188928003/ (still mostly for dev)
[05:09] <dudeicles> intelikey: Good evening buddy
[05:09] <Jucato> !changethemes | dudeicles
[05:09] <ubotu> dudeicles: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[05:09] <dudeicles> HD's still mounting.
[05:09] <intelikey> dudeicles how are you
[05:09] <dudeicles> intelikey: Good
[05:09] <intelikey> tov
[05:09] <Mattchewie> kaldrenon: For shatz and giggles. "cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak && cp <xorg back up file> xorg.conf"
[05:10] <guymac_tucson> ...got a guestion about wpa & knetworkmanager
[05:10] <Mattchewie> guymac_tucson: SHOOT DUDE!
[05:10] <guymac_tucson> dude, recently it just rarely connects
[05:10] <Mattchewie> kaldrenon: I should say that <xorg back up file> ...is the one that the reconfigue did.....or your ORIGINAL xorg file
[05:10] <AirstrikeIvanov> Ah, damn
[05:11] <AirstrikeIvanov> Then Ill stick with KDE3 for now
[05:11] <AirstrikeIvanov> Ill wait till the beta is usable for normal users, and not just devs
[05:11] <Mattchewie> guymac_tucson: ? like how ?
[05:11] <krisx> howdy folks
[05:11] <AirstrikeIvanov> !hi | krisx
[05:11] <ubotu> krisx: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:11] <Mattchewie> guymac_tucson: like to your own AP or other aps?
[05:11] <kaldrenon> MAttchewie: Yeah, I see what you're going for
[05:11] <guymac_tucson> I can boot into xp, which I would otherwise never do, and it always connects
[05:12] <intelikey> AirstrikeIvanov one reason i didn't answer your Q about is kde4 ready for use or not, is simply because i didn't know.   i don't even use kde...   :)
[05:12] <Mattchewie> kaldrenon: if we copy that file back, reboot and it works, then we at least know the root of the issue
[05:12] <AirstrikeIvanov> Ah, understandable
[05:12] <kkathman> kde 4 still has a long way to go :)
[05:12] <AirstrikeIvanov> yeah
[05:12] <AirstrikeIvanov> i had tried the beta, and broke my apt, but intelikey fixed it lol
[05:12] <kkathman> yep ditto
[05:12] <guymac_tucson> there doesn't seem to be any debug capability in knetworkmanager
[05:12] <intelikey> apt / dpkg i do use... :)
[05:12] <Mattchewie> yeah, and they put 2 month extension on it too :D
[05:12] <guymac_tucson> and I'm not that familiar with doing it via the command line
[05:12] <kkathman> but some nice things eventually if they can come through :)
[05:13] <Jucato> AirstrikeIvanov: don't worry. when the time comes for KDE 4 beta to be useful (maybe beta 3 or 4), the buzz will be so loud you can't miss it
[05:13] <kaldrenon> Mattchewie: I should remove root status and try startx after that, yes?
[05:13] <Mattchewie> kaldrenon: yes sir, give it a spin, that or you can just type in "reboot" as root :D
[05:13] <kkathman> everyone should learn cli to some extent - eventually you'll have to fix something :)
[05:13] <AirstrikeIvanov> yeah
[05:13] <Mattchewie> guymac_tucson: Its not connecting to your network or other networks? are they using security?
[05:13] <AirstrikeIvanov> i want to learn to dev for it too
[05:13] <guymac_tucson> sometimes there is a eth0:avah device (WTF?) that has a very unusual IP
[05:13] <hydrogen> or discover vi
[05:13] <krisx> yeah i love that guy that was my conversion to linux i can game on windows  and i can be an artist sudo developer on linux lol
[05:13] <guymac_tucson> yes, WPA (1)
[05:14] <kaldrenon> Mattchewie: Alright, I'll give the reboot a go, although since the timestamp is later in the day than the problem, I'ma guess it's no go.
[05:14] <intelikey> yeah scuttel butt always insists we upgrade to the latest *    you'll know when it's ready...    :)
[05:14] <garfield> who can help me install my webcam? its a creative
[05:14] <Mattchewie> guymac_tucson: ahh hell, I don't think I can help then. I could never get wpa to work correctly with my bcm4318 and NDIS
[05:15] <guymac_tucson> alright
[05:15] <krisx> plus linux is so slick i find myself self just doing it
[05:15] <krisx> not i im a noob
[05:15] <krisx>  only year for me
[05:15] <garfield> noob
[05:15] <AirstrikeIvanov> ive been using ubuntu/kubuntu since only a week before Feisty was released lol
[05:16] <intelikey> NEW BEE !
[05:16] <kaldrenon> Mattchewie: it's a bust. Attempting graphical login causes the screen to flicker between modes a couple times, then it just hops back to the graphical login dialog
[05:16] <AirstrikeIvanov> garfield, you should be more polite to others
[05:16] <garfield> stdin: if u see this msg i need help for my webcam
[05:16] <AirstrikeIvanov> dont call people a noob, it could be offensive
[05:16] <AirstrikeIvanov> specially to gamers
[05:17] <garfield> AirstrikeIvanov: lol sorry .wa is a noob?
[05:17] <intelikey> AirstrikeIvanov is went
[05:17] <krisx> well yeah and im running gutsy and hubbys been ten years he pisses me off when he trys to teach me
[05:17] <kaldrenon> AirstrikeIvanov: depends on n00b vs. noob vs. newbie, etc
[05:17] <Mattchewie> kaldrenon: can you past your xorg to paste bin?
[05:17] <kaldrenon> Yeah, give me a sec
[05:17] <intelikey> kaldrenon AirstrikeIvanov is went
[05:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> finally finished the upgrade (and went to the store), now doing the dist-upgrade.
[05:18] <garfield> stdin: if u see this msg i need help for my webcam to make it work on kotepe
[05:18] <intelikey> gone.  left already
[05:18] <sirius> Anyone know a good packet analyser  ?
[05:19] <intelikey> ethreal ?
[05:19] <kaldrenon> Mattchewie: I need to move the files to this computer - I'm on a college network and I haven't registered the laptop on the network yet
[05:19] <sirius> intelikey: Can't get it to work with my ipw3945
[05:19] <Mattchewie> kaldrenon: np, take yer time, invoke the power of the ssh or ftp :P
[05:19] <Mattchewie> ........or thumbdrive :D
[05:19] <intelikey> sirius hmmm
[05:19] <krisx> hey im a noob i can do this for ten years and be proficient or buy lots of object destop  and be dumbed up
[05:19] <kaldrenon> Mattchewie: thumb drive it is. =P
[05:20] <Biovore> you can buy lots of object desktops and still be dumb :-P
[05:20] <Biovore> Its the way of the MAC
[05:21] <krisx> ))))))))) LONG LIVE KUBUNTU))))))))
[05:21] <krisx> and gnome
[05:21] <intelikey> kubuntu is dead.   long live kubuntu.
[05:21] <Mattchewie> One the other hand, its something about the OS if people don't need that extensive knowledge to get things done :D
[05:21] <kaldrenon> Mattchewie: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39382 should do the trick
[05:21] <garfield>  i need help for my webcam to make it work on kotepe or amsn
[05:22] <Mattchewie> kaldrenon: let me peek
[05:22] <intelikey> Mattchewie yeah.   if you want to watch movies get a dvd player and television....     :)
[05:23] <dudeicles> do I have to reboot to see my themes?
[05:23] <garfield> kaldrenon: amsn is telling me im behind a firewall or a router when i try to lunch my webcam
[05:23] <krisx> need a mac pc linux commercial hi im bill g hi im steve jobs hi im freedom
[05:23] <intelikey> dudeicles the only time you need to reboot is to load a different kernel
[05:23] <dudeicles> hmmm
[05:23] <intelikey> dudeicles you may need to "logout / login"
[05:23] <dudeicles> so the themes in KDM don't change your window styles?
[05:23] <Mattchewie> kaldrenon: sudo back to root and do a ls pci, look for your graphics drive and past me the whole line in here
[05:23] <dudeicles> ah
[05:23] <krisx> hope i didnt offend
[05:24] <Mattchewie> kaldrenon: sorry "lspci"
[05:24] <dudeicles> will logout now
[05:24] <dudeicles> brb
[05:24] <jetsaredim> Riddell: any ideas when beta2 will be out?
[05:25] <intelikey> let me recant,  the only time you need to reboot is to load a different kernel or to change non-hotswapable hardware.
[05:25] <Jucato> jetsaredim: when the packages are ready and when it has been announced in kde.org
[05:26] <kaldrenon> Mattchewie: I'll give you an lspci -v (the display part) once I get it from one copmuter to t'other
[05:26] <jetsaredim> Jucato: so the tarballs aren't out even?
[05:26] <garfield> kaldrenon: amsn is telling me im behind a firewall or a router when i try to lunch my webcam.what should i do?
[05:26] <Mattchewie> kaldrenon: np
[05:26] <Jucato> jetsaredim: probably still being prepared. try checking www.kde.org
[05:27] <jetsaredim> Jucato: the only thing listed there is the beta1 announcement
[05:27] <kaldrenon> garfield: I don't know - frankly, I suck at dealing with network issues. Do you have a firewall or a router?
[05:27] <jetsaredim> but I'd heard that the beta2 snapshot had been taken
[05:27] <wersdaluv> does anyone here use google desktop? do you prefer it over katapult?
[05:28] <Jucato> jetsaredim: it has been tagged, yes. but not released
[05:28] <jetsaredim> and there was that ars technica article
[05:29] <Jucato> and yes, there are still no tarballs from kde.org. they might still be making them
[05:29] <kaldrenon> Mattchewie: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39383 Think that's what you wanted
[05:29] <Jucato> yes. from a KDE developer who is very much capable of building KDE 4 from SVN :)
[05:29] <Jucato> he doesn't need to wait for tarballs
[05:29] <krisx> so can anyone tell me  how to be a motu i know how to basic do basic things in terminal but i want to shine and winters coming here in mn is there a linux for dummys i really love my dual monitor gutsy  got bless ubuntu )))))),,,,,, my enthusiam wants me to cry lol
[05:30] <dudeicles> intelikey: You know how stupid I am, so this question won't be weird. I applied the kdm theme and nothing changed. I logged out and in and nothing changed.
[05:30] <Jucato> !motu | krisx
[05:30] <ubotu> krisx: motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[05:30] <dudeicles> am I cray?
[05:30] <dudeicles> crazy*
[05:30] <Jucato> krisx: also try to ask in #ubuntu-motu
[05:30] <Mattchewie> kaldrenon: what was the error your getting again?
[05:30] <Mattchewie> I thought motu stood for "mark of the unicorn".....hrmmm :P
[05:30] <_2> would anyone care to send me a file to test network settings
[05:30] <jetsaredim> Jucato: i've built it from svn before - prolly like 6 months ago when there was hardly anything to it
[05:30] <kaldrenon> Mattchewie: (WW) intel: No matching device section for instace (BusID PCI:0:2:!) found
[05:31] <jetsaredim> i suppose i'll wait for the packages then
[05:31] <intelikey> dudeicles umm  sorry you need to take that one up with a kde user
[05:31] <Mattchewie> :| is that a 1 or a !?
[05:31] <kaldrenon> 1
[05:31] <dudeicles> Jucato: Any ideas why when I applied the theme nothing happened?
[05:31] <Mattchewie> kaldrenon: AHH!!
[05:31] <Jucato> dudeicles: nope... sorry
[05:32] <Mattchewie> kaldrenon: hey man I'm going to PM you
[05:32] <Mattchewie> kaldrenon: Get it?
[05:32] <kaldrenon> MAttchewie: yeah, but it gave me some business about registering
[05:32] <kaldrenon> Mattchewie:Gimme a tick
[05:32] <yurimxpxman> are there any programs designed to rescue scratched CDs?
[05:33] <krisx> ive read thaT JUST NOT SURE HOW TO  get a mentor feel like i need linux for dummys need a lesson plan my hubby means but he sucks as a teacher
[05:33] <krisx> well
[05:33] <krisx> hubby
[05:33] <intelikey> ok if i dcc send to another box it has to go out to irc and back in to that other box     right ?
[05:33] <sirius> Anyone knows how to set a ipw3945 to work in monitor mode sothat can capture live data on Wireshark ?
[05:34] <Jucato> krisx: like I said, ask around in #ubuntu-motu
[05:34] <dudeicles> can anyone tell me what Beryl is?
[05:34] <krisx> okty jucato  long day
[05:34] <Jucato> !beryl | dudeicles
[05:34] <ubotu> dudeicles: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:35] <krisx> bye and thanks alot
[05:35] <intelikey> Jucato can dcc sends bypass the servers ?      you are chan op you are supposed to know these things
[05:35] <Jucato> I am supposed to? wow! I should resign
[05:36] <hydrogen> yes
[05:36] <hydrogen> dcc is direct client to client
[05:36] <hydrogen> hence it omits the server
[05:36] <intelikey> so if i disconnect the modem  i can still dcc send to _2 ???
[05:37] <intelikey> something about that doesn't sound right.
[05:37] <hydrogen> no
[05:37] <Jucato> hm.. yeah....
[05:37] <hydrogen> it bypasses the irc server
[05:37] <hydrogen> so you can disconnect from freenode
[05:37] <hydrogen> and still be connected to this person
[05:37] <Jucato> oh?
[05:37] <intelikey> hydrogen i am _@
[05:37] <intelikey> hydrogen i am _2
[05:37] <hydrogen> oh
[05:37] <hydrogen> then yes
[05:37] <_2> ok i'll test that
[05:37] <hydrogen> I thought _2 was over the internet :)
[05:38] <_2> i still don't think it will work
[05:38] <hydrogen> and I wanted to know where you learned your internets
[05:38] <_2> :)
[05:38] <intelikey> back after some tests
[05:38] <michael_> is there a gutsy gibbon chan?
[05:38] <Jucato> michael_: #ubuntu+1
[05:39] <garfield> amsn is telling me im behind a firewall or a router when i try to lunch my webcam.i try the command camorama i can see the image etc but not in amsn or kotepe detects my webcam
[05:41] <intelikey> ok that's what i though,   i may send client to client,  but it uses the irc server for dns resolution or something..
[05:42] <hydrogen> hmm
[05:42] <hydrogen> it shouldn't
[05:42] <intelikey> jsut because the two clients can see each other doesn't mean they can dcc anything.
[05:42] <hydrogen> it may route through the internet for some reason
[05:42] <hydrogen> but it connects directly from one computer to the other
[05:43] <intelikey> i tested with and without inet connection  works with   doesn't without
[05:43] <hydrogen> hmm
[05:43] <hydrogen> yea
[05:43] <hydrogen> probably routes the long way for whatever reason
[05:43] <hydrogen> try /dcc chat localip
[05:43] <hydrogen> bypass the lookup
[05:43] <hydrogen> no guarantees :)
[05:44] <intelikey> i sussssspose i can test a big file and see if the transfer rate is local or dialup speed
[05:44] <intelikey> oh i killed the other client... have to bring that end up first
[05:45] <davo0> hola alguien me puede ayudar a instalar una tarjeta nvidia
[05:45] <hydrogen> !es
[05:45] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
 try /dcc chat localip <<< are you high ?
[05:47] <hydrogen> it didn't work?
[05:47] <hydrogen> it was just a guess
[05:47] <hydrogen> :)
[05:47] <intelikey> oh i guess you are     HY-dorgen   :)
[05:48] <wckdkl0wn> how do i kill firefox?
[05:48] <savetheWorld> firegun!
[05:48] <kaldrenon> shoot it with a water gun
[05:48] <wckdkl0wn> i was being serious
[05:48] <savetheWorld> kill -9 <pid>
[05:48] <hydrogen> DCC uses direct TCP connections between the clients taking part to carry data. There is no flood control, so packets can be sent at full speed, and there is no dependance on server links (or load imposed on them). In addition, since only the initial handshake for DCC conections is passed through the IRC network, it is impossible for operators with cracked servers to spy on DCC messages.
[05:48] <hydrogen> from the rfc
[05:49] <intelikey> only the initial handshake for DCC conections is passed through the IRC network, <<<  yep
[05:51] <intelikey> testing again
[05:51] <dwidmann> ack :( how frustrating .... cmake doesn't want to find qmake ...
[05:54] <_2> it may be dirrect in the sense it bypasses the irc server  but it definitely goes out on the inet and back   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39385
[05:56] <intelikey> so all that testing was for this cause.   i wanted to know if a person with nat can test their own firewall by using /dcc send file other_self    and the answer is yes.
[05:57] <intelikey> even though it's dirrect client to client it does indeed go out to google and back, just to reach the other box    "google is just an example"
[05:58] <intelikey> so what ever dns you use, i suppose all traffic has to flow through it, on a dcc send.    at least the isp if not the isp's dns...
[05:59] <intelikey> i had a dcc chat and a dcc file transfer both in progress when i killed the modem and both died.
[06:00] <yurimxpxman> do any of you know of a way to play RealVideo 3?
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[06:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> 20 minutes until dist-upgrade finishes and we see whether or not i have a usable system
[06:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> intelikey: it has to traverse public routers to get from point to point.  direct client-to-client refers to the fact that the irc server isn't involved except for the ack packets
[06:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's...  just how the net works
[06:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> what do you think time to live is? :)
 what do you think time to live is? :) <<< was that to me ?
[06:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> yep
[06:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> juuuust checking :P
[06:03] <intelikey> well i'd just be guessing.   don't think i have ever heard it used
[06:04] <intelikey> and no.  i'm not going to read about it for the next 7 hours... :)
[06:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> basic explanation: number of routers a packet can hit before it's dropped
[06:06] <hydrogen> I'd wonder why it couldn't connect over the lan ip if it knew it was on your lan..
[06:06] <intelikey> Daisuke_Laptop so you are saying basicly that in the sense of /dcc   dirrect means simply two less cyrcles in the path than without /dcc  :)
[06:06] <scheater5> Anyone managed to get the real time kernel from the gusty repos installed on feisty?
[06:06] <intelikey> hydrogen probably doesn't know anything about the lan
[06:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> yes BUT.  if you get disconnected from the server (not the net) the connection stays up
[06:07] <hydrogen> intelikey: right.. but if the ip resolves to alocal ip...
[06:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> scheater5: i'm just upping to gutsy -_-
[06:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> accident, perhaps
[06:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> granted, it's not a wide-range scenario
[06:08] <intelikey> :)
[06:09] <intelikey> ummm lets see if i crack the freenode server i'm connected to and reset it... then i can test that theory ...   hehhe
[06:09] <scheater5> Daisuke_Laptop: but, alas, i can't yet, as the reason I need the real time kernel is i run Ubuntu studio.
[06:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah
[06:09] <ubuntu> hey, is there any easy way to "upgrade" from feisty fawn (7.4) to Tribe 5 without having to reinstall all my software?
[06:09] <ses59_> printing problem using cups   the test page is fine kword open office and kspread all work fine  but thunderbird and firefox all print landscape not portrait as set
[06:10] <Don_jr> I have dual booted my laptop with windows vista and kubuntu.  How can I remove kubuntu without having to reformat and reinstall windows completely?
[06:10] <scheater5> ubuntu: the "old" way of doing that is to change every instance of "feisty" to "gusty' in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:10] <ses59_> it seems to be after I upgraded my firefox and thunderbird that it I can not print portrait now.
[06:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> scheater5: the old way is the way i'm using
[06:10] <intelikey> ubuntu no.  whether you do it with a clean install or dist-upgrade you do "reinstall all your software" either way.
[06:10] <hydrogen> !gutsy
[06:10] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[06:11] <scheater5> ubuntu: when doing a normal upgrade, that's not officially recommended anymore - but it'll get the job done
[06:11] <hydrogen> !upgrade
[06:11] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[06:11] <hydrogen> hmm
[06:11] <hydrogen> i know theres a factoid about update-manager somewhere
[06:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> !update-manager
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about update-manager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <intelikey> perhaps we should define "software" before trying to answer that...
[06:12] <Don_jr> How can I remove kubuntu from a dual booted computer without reformatting and reinstalling the entire HD?
[06:12] <Pagan0ne> intelikey: software... firefox and plugins, kopete, ktorrent, virtualbox, etc
[06:12] <scheater5> daisuke_laptop: if only it worked that easy when i'm running ubuntu studio.  But i foresee all kinds of breakage if i tried that - and I'm not even sure there is a gusty repo for studio yet
[06:12] <hydrogen> Don_jr: from the kubuntu livve cd I suppose
[06:13] <hydrogen> you would need some way to resize the ntfs partition bigger
[06:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> scheater5: yeah, i could see problems doing it that way
[06:13] <Don_jr> hydrogen I didn't see a 'remove' option.  But I'll look again.  I should be able to resize the partition after I get the ext3 partition removed I bleive.
[06:13] <Pagan0ne> hydrogen: he could always nuke the ubuntu partition, and format the remaning space as ntfs, and just have 2 partitions
[06:14] <hydrogen> yea
[06:14] <hydrogen> Don_jr: try running qtparted from the livecd
[06:14] <Don_jr> nuke? how so?
[06:14] <hydrogen> rather than the installer
[06:14] <scheater5> daisuke_laptop: so basically i just need to know why i can install the generic gusty kernel fine, but not the real time
[06:14] <hydrogen> it will give you a more direct interface
[06:14] <intelikey> Pagan0ne if that's the intended meaning then i stand by my post ^  if it was meant to include +g's of sound/vidio files also  then you wouldn't want to "reinstall" all that either way...
[06:14] <Don_jr> hydrogen alright, I'll give that a shot.
[06:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> scheater5: i have no idea
[06:14] <scheater5> daisuke_laptop: :)  I've been getting that alot lately.
[06:15] <Pagan0ne> intelikey: i can get gutsy installed w/o formatting my /home directory thats not a issue, but like my sane and cups drivers are VERY finniky to install, and i dont want to go through that again
[06:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> i think gutsy replaces cups, doesn't it?
[06:16] <intelikey> yes it does
[06:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> so cups drivers are not an issue
[06:16] <Pagan0ne> Daisuke_Laptop: well does it include support for a brother mfc device?
[06:16] <intelikey> !info cupsys
[06:16] <ubotu> cupsys: Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.8-0ubuntu8 (feisty), package size 1582 kB, installed size 7896 kB
[06:16] <intelikey> !info cupsys gutsy
[06:16] <ubotu> cupsys: Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.0-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1976 kB, installed size 11024 kB
[06:19] <intelikey> Pagan0ne basicly   my moto is 'if it aint broke don't put *buntu on it'    err no that's not the one.   'if it aint broke don't fix it'     if you upgrade you can expect to redo what ever you did on that release   except it won't work the same.   if you are lucky it will be easier    if you are one of the many misfortunate ones it will not only have to be redone, something will never work right again...
[06:20] <intelikey> so be sure and try the new release,  maybe it will fix your problems........................
[06:21] <Pagan0ne> intelikey: i understand the if it aint broke motto, i was just having boot issues with my feisty install and was wrestling with the idea of installing gutsy to check it out, since this isnt a production box it isnt a big deal, but i dont want to wipe all my custom work if i can avoid it
[06:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> two minutes until the download finishes.  pray for me, fellow ubuntians
[06:22] <intelikey> Pagan0ne you can save the configs   and use as referances     tar -czf etc.bak.tgz /etc
[06:22] <don> How can I run something in the graphical mode as root?
[06:22] <intelikey> !kdesu
[06:22] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:23] <intelikey> !root
[06:23] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:23] <intelikey> !sudo
[06:23] <Pagan0ne> intelikey: yeah but if you google brother mfc420 driver installation on kubuntu 64bit, youll get loads and loads of little tweaks you have to do to get it JUST right
[06:23] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:23] <don> intelikey thanks, I'll try that
[06:23] <underdog5004> the !root response is awesome1
[06:23] <Pagan0ne> including installing files out of a rpm archive and all kinds of nasties
[06:23] <underdog5004> erm, awesome, even
[06:24] <don> okay, I go to run, type in kdesu and it does nothing.....I don't know the name of the program exactly to put in with it
[06:24] <don> need to get into the system settings with root permissions
[06:24] <intelikey> Pagan0ne oh i'v played with a brother all in one...  heh  i don't envy you that.        but you'll still have to compile new drivers for the new kernel and such   if you had to build a driver...
[06:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> underdog5004: !windows is the best
[06:25] <underdog5004> yeah
[06:25] <Pagan0ne> intelikey: didnt have to compile, but lets just say i made franken-driver and it worked, so i didnt putz with it anymore
[06:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> don: kdesu kcontrol
[06:25] <Noldoaran> don: 'kdesu systemsettings'
[06:25] <don> Thanks you very much Daisuke_Laptop
[06:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> you're welcome
[06:26] <Pagan0ne> intelikey: anyway im gonna reboot and see if i can fix my grub boot issue, wish me luck, otherwise i may attempt gutsy....
[06:26] <intelikey> Pagan0ne yeah tar up your etc
[06:26] <intelikey> and goodluck to your pinguin
[06:26] <Pagan0ne> intelikey: actually, i was just gonna create a whole new partition for gutsy, migrate everything over, then delete the old partition and resize the new one
[06:27] <Pagan0ne> intelikey: thats why i like having 1Tb of hdd space :D
[06:27] <don> OKay, I don't seem to have qtparted here, is there a graphical interface I can use to alter the size of the ext3 partition? then I don't have to remove kubunu completely so maybe I can learn it.....
[06:27] <intelikey> no partitions here mate
[06:27] <don> but my winblows side is almost full, cause I did the partitions backwards...
[06:28] <intelikey> don try gparted
[06:28] <Pagan0ne> intelikey: well i could take the 2nd drive out of the raid array, and use that, but i have a whole 200Gb partition practically empty...
[06:28] <Pagan0ne> anyway, later, wish me luck!
[06:28] <don> intelikey should I try that with kdesu or in terminal?
[06:28] <intelikey> !gparted
[06:28] <arun> Anyone know of any tool to get a full page JPEG snapshot of a web page?
[06:28] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[06:28] <arun> not just the part visible in the window, the entire page
[06:28] <don> Bahhh, says it's not there...so I'll go install it, thank you
[06:29] <intelikey> kdesu in the terminal  <<<
[06:29] <hydrogen> ps
[06:29] <hydrogen> use qtparted
[06:29] <hydrogen> its much more non communist
[06:29] <SilentDis> hello, are there any GUIs out there for EVDO connections for linux?  got a parent who will be using it soon, and i don't think executing shell scripts is their cup of tea :P
[06:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> and much more buggy
[06:30] <intelikey> hydrogen he said it wasnt' there  so i said try gparted   maybe he has a ubuntu live
[06:30] <rdvon> how do I make a program run at startup?
[06:30] <don> I know nothing about linux, this kubuntu install is dual booted with windows so I can try to learn to use it...
[06:30] <intelikey> !autostart
[06:30] <SilentDis> i suppose any pppd client will work, so long as i can do the config ahead of time.
[06:30] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[06:30] <don> not sure if it's my thing or not.  I"m a gammer and linux isn't quite up to that just yet.  But I don't like microsoft....
[06:30] <rdvon> I used to no nothing about linux :)
[06:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> i see all of these things getting replaced in this upgrade and it makes me a little nervous, but it's too late to turn back now :D
[06:30] <intelikey> rdvon ^
[06:30] <intelikey> rdvon ^ see ubotu
[06:31] <rdvon> thanks
[06:31] <garfield> Daisuke the people in effects are noobs do u know about beryl and the effects and option with shortcuts?*
[06:31] <rdvon> I just add programs in this folder?
[06:31] <don> very much to learn to get to wehre I can make linux/kubuntu do what I want it to do I think.
[06:32] <rdvon> It's not that hard..
[06:32] <don> rdvon I blieve that the 'Autostart' is a file it's self you'll need to add the path to the program you want into that file.
[06:32] <rdvon> it's a folder :P
[06:32] <intelikey> SilentDis put the shell script on the desktop     that's what i do if someone says  "can you make it do ****"    i say sure    write a little script and put it on their desktop
[06:32] <don> It might not be that hard. But when all you've ever used is windows based PC's, it can be confusing for a while.
[06:33] <SilentDis> don: what games do you play?
[06:33] <rdvon> don: yes, it can.
[06:33] <intelikey> "click that"     they're happy    i'm happy
[06:33] <SilentDis> intelikey: that's an idea, yes.  i was just hoping not to take them out of the gui for anything.  a pppd gui would suffice, so long as i can config it ahead of time
[06:33] <don> Lineage, Ashen Empires, Conquer to name a few.  A few muds.  But I think I can get tintin++ and use it fiarly well if the scripts are set up the same as wintin for my muds.
[06:34] <garfield> intelikey: the people in effects are newbies, do u know about beryl and the effects and option with shortcuts?*
[06:34] <don> it's trying to get wine to run the client based cames that I'm having trouble with
[06:34] <rdvon> I'd just keep windows xp, wine is rubbish sometimes :)
[06:34] <intelikey> garfield no  never seen beryl compuis
[06:34] <SilentDis> intelikey: they get very... techy... around a term screen.  i think they have aversions to flashing cursors lol
[06:35] <garfield> SilentDis: ^^^
[06:35] <garfield> ?
[06:35] <intelikey> SilentDis kppp
[06:35] <intelikey> ?
[06:35] <don> Bah..I installed gparted...when I run kdesu gparted...it does nothing
[06:35] <rdvon> just download the live cd version.
[06:36] <rdvon> or try qtparted, i believe the kubuntu live cd comes with it :P
[06:36] <Okapi> hello to all
[06:36] <intelikey> don if you are using   ubuntu  it's  "gksudo gparted"
[06:36] <don> okay, I don't have the liveCD with me....I'm on a laptop in my truck which I drive for a living.  I got it running, but I can't alter the size of the main partition cause it's the one I'm using and it's mounted......
[06:36] <intelikey> and the channel is  >>>---------->>  over there at   #ubuntu
[06:37] <SilentDis> intelikey: i will be using kppp myself (EVDO 'net access from AllTel, already found most of the info on how to do it).  was hoping for something more... gnome... for them i guess.  if all else fails, you can bet they'll be using kppp though.  i'll go bug #ubuntu.  thanks :)
[06:37] <rdvon> don: that's  a problem :)
[06:37] <intelikey> SilentDis welcom
[06:37] <rdvon> no spare cd's? :<
[06:38] <serginho> hi all. Can anybody help me with a simple question?
[06:38] <don> all I have is DVD-r's with me and I don't want to waste 4gig cd for the 600meg's.....I can wait till I get home if I have no other choice
[06:38] <intelikey> serginho those are the only kind i answer
[06:38] <don> may try fdisk from the windows side and see if it will allow it or not.......I don't know sheesh
[06:38] <serginho> I try to install a program. UEBIMIAU
[06:39] <serginho> so I put this command
[06:39] <serginho> chown -R www-data.www-data /var/www/webmail
[06:39] <rdvon> http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s70/rdvon/snapshot1-1.png my desktop!
[06:39] <serginho> now I cant modify any file in this
[06:39] <rdvon> It took me an hour. I wanted to show it off :)
[06:39] <serginho> root does not do anithyng
[06:39] <intelikey> serginho you are probably not in the  www-data  group
[06:39] <serginho> sure
[06:40] <andrew_> hey ya'll...
[06:40] <serginho> I try create a user in this group and did not work
[06:40] <andrew_> anyone here knows any burning program for linux that you can actually add mp3?
[06:40] <rdvon> serginho: k3b..
[06:40] <intelikey> serginho   kde has an app  "kusers"    or in a konsole type    groups     and see if you are in the  www-data  group
[06:41] <intelikey> you can add your self to that group
[06:41] <Okapi> anyone no what this error means and how to fix it: "E: Syntax error /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01ubuntu:36: Extra junk at the end of file"?
[06:41] <andrew_> when I try to add an mp3 to k3b, it tell me that I have to convert the files to wav then try again...
[06:42] <rdvon> really? :\
[06:42] <Okapi> anyone know what this error means and how to fix it: "E: Syntax error /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01ubuntu:36: Extra junk at the end of file"?
[06:42] <rdvon> hmm...
[06:42] <serginho> here
[06:42] <serginho> www-data@serginho-kubuntu:~/webmail/inc$ groups
[06:42] <serginho> www-data
[06:42] <rdvon> you could always try searching around in adept
[06:42] <serginho> groups result
[06:42] <intelikey> serginho also of note   not only ownership  but permissions may need set.                                                               sudo chmod 775 -R /var/www/webmail ; sudo find /var/www/webmail/ -type f -exec chmod 664
[06:43] <intelikey> that should fix you up.   ^
[06:43] <andrew_> tried... but havn't seen any thus far...
[06:45] <intelikey> hehhe    www-data    is the user name and the group    you chould have full access to that location now...  :)
[06:45] <serginho> nothing yet
[06:45] <serginho> www-data@serginho-kubuntu:~$ sudo chmod 775 -R /var/www/webmail
[06:45] <serginho> www-data is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[06:45] <serginho> www-data@serginho-kubuntu:~$ postdrop: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory
[06:45] <serginho> yes
[06:45] <serginho> www-data@serginho-kubuntu:~$  sudo find /var/www/webmail/ -type f -exec chmod 664
[06:45] <serginho> www-data is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[06:45] <serginho> www-data@serginho-kubuntu:~$ postdrop: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory
[06:45] <intelikey> so run that command from your root jr. account
[06:45] <julian> df
[06:45] <intelikey> and don't flood the channel
[06:46] <serginho> sorry
[06:46] <intelikey>  run it as    serginho      that seems to be your username and your login acount name
[06:47] <serginho> ok
[06:49] <Dot> NullDot
[06:50] <andrew_> I didn't know Nero had a linux version.... did ya'll know that?
[06:50] <serginho> I put the results in private
[06:50] <intelikey> !regester
[06:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regester - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <underdog5004> andrew_, yeah, but I prefer k3b for burning stuff
[06:50] <intelikey> !pastebin | serginho
[06:50] <ubotu> serginho: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:50] <intelikey> !register
[06:50] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[06:51] <andrew_> does the nero linux burn audio good?
[06:51] <intelikey> does it use cdrecord is what i want to know
[06:51] <intelikey> !cdrecord
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdrecord - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <intelikey> !info cdrecord
[06:52] <ubotu> cdrecord: Dummy transition package for wodim. In component main, is optional. Version 9:1.1.2-1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 36 kB
[06:52] <intelikey> ok wodem  then
[06:52] <Hirvinen> andrew_: What would you need Nero for on a Linux system when we have things like K3B?
[06:52] <intelikey> !wodim
[06:52] <serginho> intelikey, chmod: changing permissions of `/var/www/webmail/themes/uebimiau-2.7.10-theme.patch': Operation not permitted
[06:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wodim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <serginho> all files
[06:52] <intelikey> serginho with sudo ???
[06:52] <serginho> yes
[06:53] <serginho> and
[06:53] <serginho> root@serginho-kubuntu:/home/serginho# sudo find /var/www/webmail/ -type f -exec chmod 664
[06:53] <serginho> find: missing argument to `-exec'
[06:53] <andrew_> k3b can only burn wav files to the cd, I have a hard drive full with mp3... that's why.....
[06:53] <serginho> i try sudo su and nothing
[06:53] <intelikey> oooops turncated that...  i'll repost it.
[06:53] <Hirvinen> serginho: add {} \; to that
[06:53] <sumguy231> andrew: not so, you just need to install the libk3b-2-mp3 package
[06:54] <andrew_> thank you....
[06:54] <andrew_> can I get that with apt-get?
[06:54] <sumguy231> Yep.
[06:54] <serginho> Hirvinen ? I understand!
[06:55] <serginho> dit not understant
[06:55] <andrew_> thnks man...
[06:55] <intelikey> sudo chmod 775 -R /var/www/webmail ;; sudo find      sudo chmod 775 -R /var/www/webmail ; sudo find
[06:55] <sumguy231> If you have the medibuntu repository, though I could have sworn it used to be in multiverse
[06:55] <intelikey>             /var/www/webmail/ -type f -exec chmod 664
[06:55] <intelikey> did it again
[06:55] <intelikey> ignore me
[06:55] <intelikey> sudo chmod 775 -R /var/www/webmail ;; sudo find      sudo chmod 775 -R /var/www/webmail ; sudo find       sudo chmod 775 -R /var/www/webmail ; sudo find
[06:55] <intelikey>             /var/www/webmail/ -type f -exec chmod 664bah
[06:56] <_2> when things go wrong...
[06:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> ...like now :S
[06:56] <sumguy231> andrew: If you don't have it already, read about it here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[06:56] <_2> sudo chmod 775 -R /var/www/webmail ;sudo find /var/www/webmail/ -type f -exec chmod 664 '{}' \;          i believe that's it...
[06:56] <serginho> Operation not permited
[06:57] <sumguy231> Also it's called libk3b2-mp3, I don't know how that extra dash got there.
[06:57] <andrew_> thanks again...
[06:57] <sumguy231> And NOW I'm done talking about it. :)
[06:57] <Hirvinen> serginho: With find and -exec you need to use "{}" where the filename argument to that command would be and terminate the -exec argument with "\;"
[06:57] <serginho> sudo chmod 775 -R /var/www/webmail ;sudo find /var/www/webmail/ -type f -exec chmod 664 '{}' \; => Operation not permited
[06:57] <andrew_> lol...
[06:57] <serginho> all files
[06:58] <_2> serginho is there something mounted on /var/www/webmail or /var/www ?
[06:58] <_2> serginho the mount command can check that for you
[06:58] <serginho> apache2 on /var/www and /var/www/webmail a webmail client (Uebimiau)
[06:59] <_2> kill apache and try it
[06:59] <serginho> ok
[06:59] <_2> and uebimiau    if need be
[07:00] <Hirvinen> serginho, intelikey: Why not use symbolic modes? Far simpler: sudo chmod -R ug+rwX,o+rX /var/www/webmail
[07:01] <serginho> with apache stopped, operation not permited. I think webmial did not need to be stoped.
[07:01] <serginho> I instal based in this tutorial: http://www.nautilus.com.br/~rei/material/artigos/apache2-php4-uebimiau.html
[07:01] <serginho> I think in Permissoes is the command that block me
[07:01] <Hirvinen> X means execute only if the file is a directory or already was executable for one of the groups.
[07:02] <_2> Hirvinen i wouldn't think there should be anything executable in there    seeing it's a mail dir
[07:02] <serginho> I need to edit the file inc.php but I cant do it. Always recive Permission Read Only, with any user
[07:03] <Hirvinen> _2: The directory itself and possible subdirectories?
[07:03] <serginho> here the commands. Before a type its I can edit the files:
[07:03] <serginho> mkdir -p /var/spool/uebimiau/database/_cached_templates/uebimiau/
[07:03] <serginho> chown -R www-data.www-data /var/spool/uebimiau
[07:03] <serginho> chown -R www-data.www-data /var/www/webmail
[07:03] <serginho> /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[07:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> if i'm lucky, i'll be able to reboot and have a happy computer.  if i'm UNlucky, factory default reinstall :(
[07:03] <serginho> yes, many subs
[07:04] <serginho> i try to del all and start again, but I can remove the webmail's dir
[07:05] <serginho> I can't
[07:05] <_2> i'd have to look at your file system to have a clue what's going on there
[07:05] <serginho> permission read only
[07:06] <_2> unless something is locking it  or it's a mountpoint and the fs is mounted ro    that should never happen to root.
[07:07] <serginho> there are a way to put it down and clean all,star again?
[07:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> whee, it's getting into the kde stuff now :D
[07:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> there is just so much stuff that has to be changed :\
[07:08] <garfield> like
[07:08] <garfield> ?
[07:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> *everything*
[07:08] <_2> garfield like the whole installation
[07:08] <garfield> of?
[07:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> garfield: i'm upgrading to gutsy :)
[07:09] <_2> kubuntu
[07:09] <garfield> why?
[07:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> why not?
[07:10] <garfield> gusty???
[07:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> gutsy
[07:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> ubuntu 7.10
[07:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> next month's release?
[07:10] <garfield> it wasnt coming ou in october?
[07:10] <garfield> oh ok
[07:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> everyone...  pray for me.
[07:11] <garfield> Daisuke-Ido: why?
[07:11] <garfield> will there be a dif in the 7.10?
[07:11] <_2> inquisitive aren't we
[07:12] <_2> of course there will be changes.  it's a new version
[07:13] <garfield> it aint just like a normal upgrade?
[07:13] <_2> that's what it's all about     'quick change something so we can get the next release out' ...
[07:13] <serginho> another question. If I del the user and group owner's from webmail, who are the new owner? who can control the dir?
[07:13] <garfield> whats the dif beteewn feisty gusty?
[07:13] <_2> serginho no new owner
[07:13] <serginho> so, who can access and modify it?
[07:14] <_2> serginho you have to chown an inode before it has an new owner
[07:14] <serginho> nobody, root ?
[07:14] <_2> root
[07:14] <sumguy231> garfield: Read this and the other Tribe release announcements for a list of all new features: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/Tribe5/Kubuntu
[07:14] <_2> there is a "nobody" accaunt btw.
[07:14] <_2> grep nobody /etc/passwd
[07:15] <garfield> sumguy231: wont it be the same desktop kde?
[07:15] <serginho> there are a way to restart without any process load?
[07:15] <serginho> or stop all proccess?
[07:16] <sumguy231> garfield: Gutsy will come with KDE 3.5.7, which I'm pretty sure is the version Feisty came with. It's still the newest verison.
[07:16] <sumguy231> garfield: But KDE4 Beta 1 will be installable from the repositories.
[07:17] <_2> serginho yeah    drop to a console  [alt] +[ctrl] +[f1]   login and issue   sudo kill -9 -1   will kill everything   then you can login again and issue    sudo init 3      to restart stuff (after you have done what ever)    or   sudo init 6 to restart the machine
[07:18] <serginho> :D I will try it
[07:18] <serginho> thank u guys, to try help me!
[07:18] <garfield> sumguy231: so its the same it just get little extra then like xp family to xp pro?
[07:18] <_2> see ya when you get back...
[07:18] <serginho> :ok
[07:18] <serginho> thank you again
[07:22] <garfield> sergusty is ubuntu?and feisty is kubuntu?
[07:22] <garfield> Ju^^^
[07:22] <_2> :S
[07:22] <Jucato> garfield: no. gutsy and feisty are just code/nicknames for the versions. they apply to all *buntus
[07:23] <Jucato> so there's Ubuntu Feisty, Kubuntu Feisty, Xubuntu Feisty, and Edubuntu Feisty. all of them version 7.04
[07:23] <garfield> so feity and gusty is kubuntu then?
[07:23] <garfield> what is ubuntu codename?
[07:23] <Jucato> they all share the same codenames
[07:24] <Jucato> Kubuntu/Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn
[07:24] <garfield> oh ok
[07:24] <_2> ubuntu is warty/hoary/breezy/dapper/edgy/fiesty/<soon to be>gutsy
[07:24] <Jucato> _2: you know, I think this naming of releases creates more marketing confusion that *buntu naming....
[07:25] <_2> the release code is    year dot month   7.4  or 7.04 if you prefer is the current
[07:25] <garfield> so the 7.04 will be kde?
[07:25] <_2> Jucato concur
[07:25] <Jucato> ......
[07:25] <garfield> or that brown orange thing?
[07:25] <Jucato> Ubuntu is that brown orange thing
[07:25] <garfield> witch i dont like to see
[07:25] <Jucato> Kubuntu is the cool blue thing
[07:26] <Lynoure> garfield: you can make KDE any colour you want, same with Gnome
[07:26] <Jucato> :)
[07:26] <_2> Jucato and if you scroll up and read the trolling questions in order they do have a flow about them
[07:26] <Lynoure> No sense choosing based on the colours
[07:26] <_2> Lynoure mm uhh huh  there is
[07:27] <_2> k is blue and u is brown
[07:27] <Jucato> Lynoure: never underestimate the power of personal preference and first impressions :)
[07:27] <dwidmann> _2: http://kde-look.org
[07:27] <_2> s/false/first/
[07:27] <_2> :)
[07:27] <dwidmann> hehehe
[07:28] <Lynoure> _2: my kde 'is' a pile of autumn leaves, mostly grap and orange
[07:28] <Lynoure> s/grap/gray
[07:28] <garfield> so the one coming out 7.10 is the bleu?i install ubuntu my first linux installment it look like window vista EMTY WITH NOTHING IN IT.then i try kubuntu witch was very nice with a lot an option and crashes witch i like very much :-/ witch is the 7.10?
[07:29] <serginho> hi again! Nothing new!!
[07:29] <_2> Lynoure my system is gray on black    like most consoles   :)
[07:29] <Jucato> good luck. I'm off to do something more productive :)
[07:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> nothing blew up!
[07:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> :D
[07:29] <dwidmann> Jucato: like sleeping?
[07:29] <Jucato> like trying to make dolphin usable for you guys on gutsy :(
[07:29] <dwidmann> Jucato: or as Daisuke_Laptop just reminded us, blowing things up :P
[07:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> however...
[07:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> why am i not getting the new kernel?
[07:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm still running 2.6.20.16 :\
[07:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> should have gone to the new one :(
[07:30] <dwidmann> Jucato: who is you guys, because I'll still be using Konqueror ...
[07:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> maybe i have to select it in grub first.  maybe it's not in grub yet...
[07:31] <Lynoure> Daisuke_Laptop: Which version number does your 'new' one have? Gutsy or feisty?
[07:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> could you explain that a little better?
[07:32] <Lynoure> Daisuke_Laptop: because the one offered by upgrades couple of days ago was a 2.6.20.16 too
[07:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> gutsy should be 2.6.22
[07:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> and it's not 2.6.22
[07:32] <Lynoure> ask on #ubuntu+1?
[07:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's 2.6.20, and that makes any number of infant deities and/or prophets cry :)
[07:33] <Lynoure> Not on this channel =)
[07:33] <_2> !version
[07:33] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[07:33] <_2> !shell
[07:33] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> Ubuntu gutsy (development branch), and Lynoure, I would so appreciate it if you wouldn't talk to me like i was stupid.  thanks
[07:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm still going through the update/upgrade process...  nothing's set in stone yet :)
[07:35] <_2> Daisuke_Laptop will ya share that ?   :)
[07:35] <Lynoure> Daisuke_Laptop: Stop asking questions if you don't want honest answers. Honestly, there is more people that know about the development version kernel non-updatingness on the #ubuntu+1
[07:35] <Jucato> ahem...
[07:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> Lynoure: it was more of a rhetorical question to begin with.  i do that sometimes.  just because i vocalize it doesn't mean i'm asking to be coddled through the entire thing
[07:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> and btw: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-10-generic
[07:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> :)
[07:37] <Lynoure> Daisuke_Laptop: It's really hard to tell that when you ask what looks 100% identical to a direct question. I'm not only not a mindreader but also not a native speaker and this is a support channel
[07:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> all taken care of :D
[07:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> Lynoure: fair enough
[07:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> reboot!
[07:37] <Jucato> glad that ended amicably...
[07:38] <Lynoure> Jucato: I don't think I was talking to him like he was stupid. Maybe like he had been misinformed about what version the feisty update was supposed to give
[07:40] <_2> 2.4.27-2-k6
[07:40] <_2> my  /exec -o uname -r
[07:43] <Jucato> hm...
[07:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> i will say, everything is about 1000% clearer with gutsy and the new intel driver
[07:44] <_2> that was the intent wasn't it ?
[07:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> only issue i still have is the kernel updating...
[07:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> _2: part of it
[07:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> the other part was...  i was bored.
[07:44] <_2> oh
[07:44] <_2> i have done that.
[07:45] <_2> blank an hd just to have something to do
[07:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> apparently dell left some software here
[07:45] <_2> not my own of course
[07:45] <_2> :)
[07:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> "prepare for shipping to end user"
[07:46] <_2> was that a dell preloaded linux system ?
[07:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> yep
[07:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> hence why i said dell left some software here
[07:47] <_2> and you already wiped it...   had it what a month ?
[07:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> i didn't wipe it, i upgraded :)
[07:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> and less than a month
[07:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> got it August 13
[07:47] <_2> i was about to draw a comparison   but if you are going to get touchy again...
[07:48] <BetaTester> Hi all, hi stdin.
[07:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> nah
[07:48] <_2> ok.
[07:48] <_2> you kept that preloaded linux a little longer than i did the preloaded vesta   i wiped it the first day... :)
[07:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> believe me, if this thing had been shipped to me with windows, i would have wiped it day 1 :D
[07:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> ...  :)
[07:49] <_2> if you didn't have such a long nickname i might like you   :)
[07:50] <_2> lol
[07:50] <BetaTester> Did anybody tested the "data=writeback" on reiserfs or ext3? I read some posts this increses the preformance of the FS, but I know if this is stable?
[07:50] <_2> i know it's kept me from tab compleeting  all day
[07:50] <BetaTester> *don't know if this is stable
[07:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> dai<tab><tab>
[07:50] <_2> nope i get the list that way
[07:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> unless you have it set on dropdown
[07:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> in which case...
[07:51] <Pupeno> what's the name of the program tha shows the batery level of my notebook in the traybar? (it's gone)
[07:51] <_2> nope   bx   you are thinking client specific
[07:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> in kubuntu i'm used to seeing everyone here (except intelikey with his fear of X) use Konversation
[07:52] <intelikey> who did you think you were talking to  ?
[07:53] <intelikey> jsut cause i went binary   you didn't recognize me...
[07:54] <intelikey> pupeno  i can't answer that because of my phear of X
[07:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> intelikey: you know i'm only teasing you :P
[07:55] <Jucato> Pupeno: guidance-power-manager I think
[07:56] <intelikey> i'd answer that if i could tab complete without seeing [Daisuke_Laptop ]  [Daisuke-Ido    ]  [               ]  [               ] 
[07:56] <garfield> pudding
[07:56] <intelikey> Sierra-X see
[07:56] <Sierra-X> this is probably the oldest nick i use
[07:56] <intelikey> Sierra-X i told you i would
[07:57] <garfield> Sierra-X: how did u change your name?
[07:57] <Sierra-X> garfield: use /nick newnickname
[07:57] <Sierra-X> but don't do it too often
[07:57] <Sierra-X> !nickspam
[07:57] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[07:58] <intelikey> yeah i keep two nicks registered.      err have had three but i normally don't need more than two so no need "hogin'" names that others could use
[07:58] <Pupeno> Jucato: thanks.
[07:59] <Jucato> sure
[07:59] <garfield> intelikey: i have no need for xp no more but the website i save in favorit on xp i want to see there names but how?what do i open it with to see the url?
[07:59] <Sierra-X> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39386
[07:59] <garfield> nick/ peace
[07:59] <intelikey> garfield what file ?
[08:00] <Sierra-X> there is no reason grub shouldn't be picking that up :\
[08:00] <intelikey> garfield or are you asking me where to find it in xp ???    that would be a waste of time.
[08:01] <Sierra-X> and that pastebin was in the wrong place :\
[08:01] <garfield> intelikey: i found my favorit website folder allready but what do i have to open it with to see the names of the websites?
[08:01] <intelikey> nah  i like that server
[08:01] <danielronin> can someone help me resize a partition and reallocate the space from inside kubuntu?
[08:02] <intelikey> Sierra-X sudo update-grub ?
[08:02] <Sierra-X> if that's all it is i'm going to stab myself in the arm (with something soft, of course)
[08:02] <michael_> ugh why is firefox so screwed up
[08:02] <danielronin> I'm trying to ready a partition for a BT2 install
[08:02] <intelikey> peace: try clicking it in konqueror
[08:02] <michael_> when i play youtube videos i hear this blipping and clicking in the audipo
[08:03] <michael_> but just playing mp3's in amarok are fine
[08:03] <Sierra-X> thank you
[08:03] <Sierra-X> be right back
[08:03] <intelikey> :)
[08:04] <peace> *how you do that
[08:04] <danielronin> can anyone help me with some partitioning info? it would be much appreciated
[08:04] <intelikey> peace: /me
[08:04] <peace> intelikey: konqueror dont recogniz the file
[08:04] <intelikey> !ask | danielronin
[08:04] <ubotu> danielronin: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:04] <peace> pease: me???
[08:05] <intelikey> /me does something   <<< peace
[08:05] <peace> oh
[08:05] <peace> lol
[08:05] <peace> my name change and i didnt even see that
[08:05] <peace> lol
[08:06] <intelikey> garfield you might want to check the server window of your client you may find that you are trying to use someone elses name
[08:07] <intelikey> or O_O
[08:07] <danielronin> intelikey: sorry for the poor syntax :( here's my q: i have a dual boot notebook with 2 ntfs partitions
[08:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> back to the old nick, i know
[08:07] <O_O> O_O
[08:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> but it worked
[08:07] <O_O> O_O/me
[08:07] <O_O> O_O /me
[08:07] <O_O> O_O/ me
[08:08] <intelikey> no the /me first then what ever
[08:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> reverse that, but this isn't really the place to play around with that :)
[08:08] <O_O> intelikey: nothing happen
[08:08] <danielronin> how can i see all the partitions and resize one to create free space for formatting?
[08:08] <O_O> ?
[08:08] <flaccid> danielronin: not really recommended. there is windows software that can do it however
[08:09] <flaccid> you can grow but only in certain situations and its unreliable
[08:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> i have one last thing to try tonight, and i am absolutely sure it will NOT work, and will probably kill X, so gnight, if i don't get through this successfully
[08:09] <danielronin> partition magic or something?
[08:09] <O_O> O_O WOW
[08:09] <flaccid> danielronin: yes and there is also a free one like that
[08:10] <intelikey> danielronin you sould probably first boot windows and scan the ntfs partitions for errors then deefrag them   you'll have to turn off the page/swap file for that,  then the install cd should allow you to resize them
[08:10] <O_O> intelikey: ??? how u do the thing with the blue star **
[08:10] <O_O> ?
[08:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm good.
[08:10] <intelikey> /me does it like this O_O
[08:10] <intelikey> /me does it like this O_O
[08:11] <danielronin> it's only a week old, it shouldn't be too fragmented, and do you mean the kbuntu install cd or the ASUS OEM vista recovery cd?
[08:11] <intelikey> yes the kubuntu install cd
[08:11] <O_O>  O_O does it like this
[08:12] <nicio> nicio: does it like this
[08:13] <intelikey> danielronin but window probably write to the very end of the partition if its using a paging file and that may keep you from resizing the ntfs partition    so if you follow those steps it should work  ^%
[08:13] <danielronin> ok, so if i use that to modify the partition table, how do i exit it cleanly (so i can install the OS once i've made space)?
[08:13] <nicio> intelikey: when u speek to someone its tab u does hit to get there name insted of riten it?
[08:14] <intelikey> danielronin exit which cleanly ?
[08:15] <intelikey> nicio yes   ni[tab]    but you may get NickPresta instead ... :)
[08:15] <intelikey> int[tab]   will finish my name
[08:15] <danielronin> the shell in the kubuntu live CD,but more importantly, how do i point GURB at the newly installed image?
[08:16] <nicio> intelikey: yea but i got 2 dots at the end insted of the >
[08:16] <intelikey> shell in the live CD ????    i'm trying to catch up with you danielronin
[08:16] <danielronin> it's a slack based OS, and it uses LILO (but i'm not going to let it make a new MBR
[08:17] <danielronin> isn't there a CLI you can use from the kubuntu install CD?
[08:17] <intelikey> oh you are not installing form a ubuntu live CD  you are only going to do the partition work   ok i'm with you now.
[08:17] <intelikey> use the gparted live cd   it's made for that
[08:18] <danielronin> for resizing partitions?
[08:18] <intelikey> yep
[08:19] <intelikey> there maybe a better place to look  but   http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:20] <dds> how can I run the migration assistant from an already running system? I've tried running it via ubiquity but it seems to want to remake my filesystems...
[08:20] <danielronin> is there a way to use the kubuntu install image or any CLI utils that i can use from a konsole inside my OS (kub fiesty)?
[08:21] <danielronin> to resize the partition...i don't want to d
[08:21] <dds> danielronin: I don't quite understand. If you already have a running system, you can install ubiquity and use its partition manager.
[08:21] <danielronin> ownload anything huge just to do this one task
[08:21] <intelikey> danielronin if you umount all fs's except the system  you can install qtparted in the installed kubuntu and do it from there
[08:22] <intelikey> that gparted live CD is only 50m
[08:22] <intelikey> and it's graphical
[08:22] <danielronin> intelikey: thanks! that's what i needed to know, i'm still fairly green to 'nix, but loving more every day
[08:22] <dds> I've got a windowsxp backup on USB disk that I want to migrate settings from into an already running system.
[08:23] <dds> (freshly installed, but it's a slow machine; I had to install from the alternative disk and it didn't offer the migration assistant)
[08:24] <runlevelten> To a kubuntu system?
[08:24] <flaccid> can you resize in qtparted/gtparted? i've heard if you can it always fail
[08:24] <dds> runlevelten: yes
[08:25] <dds> intelikey: well, in essence it is just a copy operation, but it's a lot of various locations and I don't know crap about windows, I'm trying to help a friend out.
[08:25] <runlevelten> Funnily enough I believe there's some app centered around the whole "migration" thing, intelikey
[08:25] <intelikey> flaccid you can.   but if it's a windows fs you need to turn off pagefile and scandisk/defrag first
[08:25] <dds> right, it's the migration-assistant in ubiquity, but I want to run it independently of ubiquity.
[08:25] <flaccid> ah ok
[08:26] <runlevelten> dds: There is an app or two under development, but lots of apps (browsers, mail clients etc) that will have an import option.
[08:26] <runlevelten> !migration
[08:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about migration - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:26] <dds> I've been reading the python source and it's simple enough, but I can't find a safe-way to launch it without first recreating my filesystems (the step right before it in ubiquity) that I can't skip and I can't force it to just use the existing ones.
[08:26] <dds> runlevelten: in kubuntu, most apps don't have an import option to grab the settings from a mounted ntfs partition.
[08:27] <runlevelten> Whether it's NTFS makes no difference at all. :)
[08:27] <dds> runlevelten: what I mean is to grab it from a partition; kubuntu wants you to know the details
[08:28] <dds> they don't import from windows
[08:28] <dds> hence why the ubuntu migration-assistant is a relatively big deal
[08:28] <dds> evolution can import from outlook, that's about it
[08:28] <flaccid> opera can import lots
[08:28] <dds> but as you can see, http://ftp.cica.es/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/migration-assistant/ , it's only udebs, it doesn't exist independently of the installer
[08:29] <intelikey> mozillar imports some
[08:29] <runlevelten> kmail can import settings, firefox, opera, konqueror, more of kontact etc.
[08:29] <dds> there is no definitive word on whether it can be used out of the installer, so I'm asking here
[08:29] <runlevelten> Right.
[08:30] <dds> runlevelten, intelikey: that's fine and good, and you're right, but this program does quite a bit more. You should take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MigrationAssistance to get an idea of what it does
[08:30] <intelikey> dds all i know is even if it can   i probably wouldn't...     sorry i'm not more helpful on that
[08:30] <dds> ok, well like I said, take a look at the link
[08:33] <intelikey> dds the page says      "A stand-alone desktop application..."
[08:35] <dds> intelikey: which page?
[08:35] <dds> intelikey: where?
[08:35] <dds> the wiki page/
[08:36] <intelikey> the one you posted  ^
[08:37] <dds> I posted two links
[08:38] <dds> the wiki page I guess
[08:38] <dds> ah right under the design heading
[08:38] <dds> right
[08:38] <dds> well, the thing is, it isn't a standalone application design, it's a module for ubquity
[08:38] <dds> ubiquity
[08:38] <dds> so
[08:39] <dds> the question then, is can I make ubiquity present me that one module and not force recreating my filesystems?
[08:40] <navets_> hey if anyone could take a look at my website and tell me how to improve, I would really appreciate it. http://navetz.com
[08:40] <intelikey> dds you can run ubiquity and select manual partitioning and make no changes  yes.
[08:40] <dds> intelikey: no
[08:40] <intelikey> and why not ?
[08:40] <dds> intelikey: that still doesn't do it
[08:41] <dds> intelikey: ubiquity wants to recreate the filesystems; if you attempt to tell it that yes, my existing / is the / I want to use and to not format it, it says it can't use it.
[08:41] <dds> try it yourself
[08:41] <dds> install the ubiquity package and try to get that far in the installer
[08:41] <danielronin> is there a KDE equivalent to gparted?
[08:41] <intelikey> i won't even run ubiquity to install   why would i run it for "fun" ...
[08:42] <intelikey> danielronin qtparted
[08:42] <dds> intelikey: so you don't sound like a horses ass when you make false statements? ;)
[08:43] <dds> argh, and apparently the migration tools don't handle utf-8 correctly
[08:43] <dds> (the Windows XP username of the user I want to migrate is $B$J$*$_(B)
[08:43] <intelikey> i can see where that would fail yes.
[08:44] <intelikey> try  \$B\$J\$\*\$_\(B\)
[08:44] <intelikey> or single quote it
[08:45] <spamhead> Hello everyone
[08:47] <winbond> how  is kde4 different than kde3 besides the looks?
[08:47] <intelikey> dds i'm not going to install that.   to many deps.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39387
[08:48] <intelikey> winbond it's either alpha or early beta  ???
[08:48] <intelikey> that's a big differance
[08:49] <flaccid> winbond: you can check all that out on the kde site
[08:49] <flaccid> !kde4
[08:49] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at <http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule>. Beta 1 packages can be found at <http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php>.
[08:49] <flaccid> or there
[08:49] <spamhead> Hey there all I ahve a question, I'm kind of new to linux, (this is my first install).  I want to put it on my notebook, but I have 2 questions, 1 how is the wifi support for Ubuntu, and 2) is it possible to write c# in linux and have it compile?
[08:51] <khaije1> can python code completion be added to kdevelop?
[08:51] <intelikey> spamhead the last one first.      linux kinda has one of the best compilers there is...    and there is a couple of links i'll post for you for the first question
[08:51] <intelikey> !hardware | spamhead
[08:51] <lerio> gudday guys pls help i need to know if is it possible to install kubuntu 7.04 in p3 600mhz with 256mb ram
[08:51] <ubotu> spamhead: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:51] <intelikey> !wifi | spamhead
[08:51] <ubotu> spamhead: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:52] <Jucato> khaije1: I think that's in the works already. might want to ask in #kdevelop or you might want to try Eric3
[08:52] <intelikey> lerio sure
[08:52] <spamhead> it's a D420 from Dell. it's got an intel wifi card
[08:52] <lerio> but it cant run beryl?
[08:53] <lerio> or barely launches
[08:53] <intelikey> lerio beryl might be pushing it some...
[08:53] <spamhead> beryl? or should I google it?
[08:53] <khaije1> hi Jucato, i'll check in that channel, eric3 runs *super* slow for me
[08:54] <intelikey> i'm not sure what the threshold is for berly  probably about 900mhz for any kind of smotheness   just a guess
[08:54] <lerio> intelikey, wht kubuntu chat mesenger supports voice and video
[08:54] <intelikey> !gaim
[08:54] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[08:54] <intelikey> !kopete
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:55] <lerio> does kopete support voice and video chats?
[08:55] <Jucato> khaije1: Python Support for KDevelop 4 was one of the Google Summer of Code projects: http://code.google.com/soc/2007/kde/appinfo.html?csaid=634886428E6FDB18 http://behindkde.org/people/soc2007-one/
[08:55] <intelikey> Jucato might know
[08:55] <khaije1> Jucato: sweet thx!
[08:55] <Jucato> I don't use kopete that much..
[08:55] <Jucato> I just turn it on and forget that it's running...
[08:55] <intelikey> i don't use it at all
[08:56] <Jucato> that is until someone buzzes me...
[08:56] <Jucato> you don't use graphical apps. period :P
[08:56] <Jucato> unless ASCII art is your perverted notion of graphics :)
[08:56] <intelikey> i beg to differ!   Y just last week i started X and ummm   can't remember why...
[08:57] <intelikey> but i do watch vidios in vlc sometimes      in the console
[08:57] <Jucato> ascii art :)
[08:57] <intelikey> no
[08:58] <intelikey> svgalibs
[08:58] <Jucato> ascii video ftw!
[08:58] <intelikey> careful  i'll go back to trollin'
[08:58] <intelikey> :)
[08:59] <Jucato> that's what I was hoping you'd do... I'm going afk, and those who will be here to take over are less tolerant than I am :P
[08:59] <intelikey> you mean Tm_T ?   heh no.
[08:59] <intelikey> or maybe stdin ?    :)))
[09:00] <spamhead> I be trollin' they be hatin'
[09:00] <stdin> man, I'm pinged more than google today
[09:00] <intelikey> it seems like it's Jucato that always yells OT at me...
[09:01] <intelikey> stdin lol
[09:01] <intelikey> sorry about that.   i guess you have it beeping at you ?
[09:01] <stdin> yeah, it's ok now tho, i'm officially /back :)
[09:02] <intelikey> stdin (((<intelikey> careful  i'll go back to trollin'<Jucato> that's what I was hoping you'd do... I'm going afk, and those who will be here to take over are less tolerant than I am :P )))
[09:02] <spamhead> Okay I just google'd it and Beryl is friggin' cool!
[09:03] <intelikey> spamhead so i hear...
[09:03] <stdin> intelikey: I'll type in the first part of my kick command, just in case :p
[09:03] <intelikey> heh
[09:03] <intelikey> why ?
[09:03] <stdin> saves time
[09:03] <intelikey> for what ?
[09:03] <spamhead> because I'm a n00b
[09:03] <stdin> kicking, what else :)
[09:04] <intelikey> who ?
[09:04] <intelikey> :)
[09:04] <stdin> everyone... I won't get pinged then
[09:04] <intelikey> when ?
[09:04] <spamhead> congrats flaccid!
[09:04] <intelikey> coool
[09:05] <flaccid> thanks very much
[09:05] <lerio> guys what is the most stable version of ubuntu/kubuntu
[09:05] <flaccid> intelikey: guess what im doing for double my current salary?
[09:05] <AscendedDaniel> How do I set up surround sound? I found a few howtos for GNOME, but not many just for kubuntu.
[09:05] <spamhead> Feisty Fawn
[09:05] <lerio> feisty fawn?
[09:05] <flaccid> intelikey: packaging windows software
[09:05] <intelikey> flaccid i wouldn't have a clue ?
[09:05] <flaccid> hilarious!
[09:05] <intelikey> flaccid and you admit it ?
[09:05] <spamhead> 7.04 is the latest version
[09:06] <lerio> spamhead, feisty fawn?
[09:06] <dedi> my usb harddisks dont automount anymore. what could that be?
[09:06] <spamhead> [02:06]  <intelikey> flaccid and you admit it ? <--- not that there's ANYTHING wrong with that
[09:06] <flaccid> intelikey: yerp. less responsibility, point and click job technically and twice the money im on atm. so yeah good money to point and click lol
[09:07] <flaccid> going to try to get them to support ubuntu/linux however but yeah. i'll get off the offtopic cya guys a bit later
[09:07] <intelikey> spamhead depends on perspective
[09:08] <flaccid> gotta run, cyas later
[09:08] <spamhead> intelikey well since I don't really want him to be rigid OR flaccid in my company...
[09:09] <spamhead> Yeah I need to make like a tree and head out too
[09:09] <intelikey> :)
[09:10] <spamhead> PEACE OUT!
[09:11] <intelikey> so he made like a baby and pulled up roots
[09:18] <Project_K> how do i get mp3 files to work... amarok says that it does not support the file format
[09:18] <intelikey> !mp3
[09:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:19] <dedi> !usb
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <danielronin> intelikey: can you help me with some qtparted issues?
[09:20] <intelikey> danielronin maybe
[09:20] <danielronin> i tried to remove an ntfs partition before i had the disc unmounted
[09:20] <intelikey> eeeek
[09:21] <danielronin> i did unount the partition i was trying to delete, actually i was just trying to resize it, but it got deleted
[09:21] <danielronin> there was no data on it though, so no loss
[09:21] <GuHhH> i know it may sound stupid but... is there any way to discover a possible rootkit on my machine, except from comparing original files?
[09:22] <intelikey> danielronin ok so what is the problem now ?
[09:22] <stdin> GuHhH: chkrootkit and rkhunter are tools to do that
[09:22] <intelikey> !info chkrootkit
[09:22] <ubotu> chkrootkit: Checks for signs of rootkits on the local system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.47-1build1 (feisty), package size 263 kB, installed size 740 kB
[09:22] <danielronin> now i have /dev/sda-1 listed as free, but how do i assign partitions to it?
[09:22] <danielronin> qtparted won't allow me
[09:23] <GuHhH> stdin: okay, thanks. :D
[09:23] <intelikey> danielronin are you sure it's not a partition ?     and the simple answer to your Q is    sudo cfdisk /dev/sda
[09:25] <intelikey> i run several root kits   and niether of those apps bark at them....     well they may not qualify as root kits cause they are non-malisous
[09:26] <danielronin> i'm deciphering the man pages, but it's rather ambiguous
[09:26] <intelikey> danielronin manpage on ?
[09:26] <intelikey> cfdisk ?
[09:27] <intelikey> cfdisk reminds you of the old M$ "fdisk" app
[09:27] <intelikey> don't need a man page for it..
[09:31] <intelikey> sudo find / -exec touch -t 194112070945 '{}' \;  <<<< would that be considered a possable root kit foot print ?
[09:35] <intelikey> hehhe    touch: cannot touch `./dev/stdin': No such file or directory
[09:35] <stdin> I do exist, I'm right here
[09:36] <intelikey> nope you don't exist   :)
[09:37] <intelikey> you're just a figment of O_O's imigenation
[09:38] <intelikey> ????
[09:38] <intelikey> stdin accepts input therefore stdin ....
[09:38] <stdin> no comment
[09:38] <stdin> :p
[09:38] <intelikey> where's genii with the coffee
[09:39] <intelikey> oh no.....
[09:40] <intelikey> the network card is going crazy
[09:40] <intelikey> i think that command has filtered through eth1 ...
[09:41] <intelikey> am i still here ?
[09:41] <stdin> yes
[09:42] <intelikey> ok so it's not a good idea to touch /dev/*   hmmmm
[09:43] <stdin> probably not :p
[09:44] <intelikey> i think i need to reload the kernel now.....    some things seem to be acting wierd
[09:44] <intelikey> well i'll just go  it's too quiet in here anyway.
[09:45] <danielronin> intelekey: after messing with my partition tables, i can't login, i keep getting a grub error
[09:45] <danielronin> at [art 1.5
[09:45] <danielronin> *part
[09:45] <danielronin> Intelikey is there anyway to restore GRUB, or am i faced with a reinstall now?
[09:46] <intelikey> danielronin sure
[09:46] <intelikey> !grub
[09:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:46] <intelikey> see the first link   ^
[09:49] <uselessid>  is it possible to change the output of  my sound, from laptop speakers to phone?
[09:54] <uselessid> is it possible to change the output of  my sound, from laptop speakers to headphones?
[10:08] <ubuntu> ciao
[10:10] <danielronin> ok i was able to restore grub, but now no matter what i try to boot (in nix. also everything after the partition that was changed) is giving me an "Error 15; File not found."
[10:11] <danielronin> the boot menu that grub loads is even off of my altered menu.lst, so it had to see it, i think it's just not pointed at the image it needs to boot from
[10:20] <peques> HOLAS
[10:21] <peques__> hi
[10:22] <waylandbill> danielronin: sounds like something wrong in the menu.lst or what was written to the mbr cannot locate the rest of the files grub needs. Check the menu.lst and put grub into the mbr again.
[10:34] <buti> hi. is it normal that kubuntu gutsy locks me out of xorg?
[10:34] <buti> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[10:34] <buti> Xlib: No protocol specified
[10:34] <buti> Error: Can't open display: :0.0
[10:35] <buti> not every time, but often
[10:35] <stdin> buti: 1) gutsy help in #ubuntu+1 2) don't run GUI apps with sudo or as root user, use kdesu
[10:35] <stdin> buti: 1) gutsy help in #ubuntu+1 2) don't run GUI apps with sudo or as root user, use kdesu
[10:37] <buti> stdin, thanks, but i don't think i am running any gui app as root
[10:38] <stdin> buti: that's the error one gets when trying to start a GUI app from the command line when not the user who's running X
[10:38] <buti> stdin: yeah. i know.
[10:38] <buti> but i get it for every app i try to launch...
[10:39] <buti> e.g. xeyes as the logged in user
[10:53] <MadCaddies> can anyone help me with a shell script for log rotation? (i want to remove logs older than 3 days).
[10:54] <Tidus> MadCaddies: logrotate maybe?
[10:56] <agarfu> hi
[10:57] <agarfu> I need to report a bug related to spanish translation in kio and I don't know what is the best place to do it
[10:59] <MadCaddies> Tidus: it removes older logs?
[11:32] <sander5> hello, yesterday i tried a kubuntu cd, but afterwards i found that my hard disk has shrunk with 100 gigabyte. Does anyone know how this is possible?
[11:40] <Tomi-idle> sander5: if you tried out the live cd it doesn't access harddrives by default. only if you mount the drive and then fiddle with it
[11:40] <taime1> after installing nvidia drivers, i have only one resolution, how can i fix this?
[11:41] <Tomi-idle> taime1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   might automatically detect right resolutions
[11:41] <taime1> Tomi-idle, im WAAY past that stage
[11:41] <taime1> haha
[11:41] <taime1> ive been at this for over 5 hrs now
[11:42] <Tomi-idle> what resolution you have atm?
[11:42] <Tomi-idle> and whats your monitors native?
[11:42] <taime1> 800x600
[11:42] <taime1> its 1600x1200 native
[11:42] <lick_me_f> http://vans.tbc.bg/uploaded
[11:43] <tim_> have you tried editing xconfig directly
[11:43] <tim_> plus, are you using an nvidia card?
[11:43] <taime1> tim_:  oh yeah
[11:43] <Tomi-idle> have you tried adding only "1600x1200@(your hz here)" in xorg.conf in Modes
[11:43] <taime1> Tomi-idle: yeah
[11:43] <Tomi-idle> taime1: tried nvidia-settings? :p
[11:43] <buz> is there a possibility to do echo, reverb, compress type stuff in amarok?
[11:43] <taime1> Tomi-idle: yes
[11:44] <Tomi-idle> taime1: weird :D
[11:44] <tim_> because the nvidia proprietary drivers have severely restricted resolutions, although 8x6 is a bit bad even for that.
[11:44] <Tomi-idle> the binary drivers work fine for me resolution wise
[11:44] <Tomi-idle> got all modes, even ones i've not heard before like 1440x1024
[11:44] <tim_> and me, but it may be card dependant
[11:45] <Kabal> Someone here that uses OpenFTD icw Kubuntu?
[11:45] <solarwaver> is anyone knows abour mkv files
[11:45] <taime1> i guess its my card... although i cant see why its not supported
[11:45] <taime1> its a geforce 7600
[11:45] <Tomi-idle> taime1: did you try to let xorg figure out configuration by itself? rename xorg.conf to something different and try to boot
[11:46] <taime1> Tomi-idle: yeah
[11:46] <Tomi-idle> i got 7600gt and working fine for me :(
[11:47] <tim_> apparantly sometimes xorg removes resolutions it doesnt like, you can find a log of it in: /var/log/XFree86.0.log
[11:47] <taime1> this is ridiculous
[11:48] <taime1> it worked great on my older card
[11:48] <taime1> i get a nice new EXPENSIVE card, and i get 800x600
[11:48] <taime1> nice.
[11:48] <solarwaver> is anyone knows abour mkv files?
[11:49] <Tomi-idle> solarwaver: what about them?
[11:49] <SlimeyPete> matroska video. Should play fine in mplayer or (I think) VLC
[11:49] <SlimeyPete> xine might do 'em too - they're not that uncommon these days
[11:49] <Tomi-idle> solarwaver: mkv is a container like avi that can contain movie files packed with different codecs
[11:50] <Tomi-idle> solarwaver: also mkv can contain subtitles & many soundtracks
[11:50] <taime1> mkv is teh r0xx!
[11:50] <tim_> mkv chuggs my computer
[11:51] <tim_> its its way of telling me I need to spend money.
[11:52] <tim_> xine plays it, as does vlc. I find that xine is more reliable, although I think the libs are the same they seem to handle it a bit differently.
[11:52] <sander5> Tomi-idle, I'm afraid I fiddled with it, what can i do about it, so my hard disk is restored?
[11:53] <tim_> sander5: what did you do?
[11:55] <solarwaver> tomi-idle u know how i can make them play i have installed from synaptic mkvtoolvix
[11:55] <solarwaver> tomi-idle u know how i can make them play i have installed from synaptic mkvtoolnix but still dont play
[11:56] <NiceGuyUK> isn't it in FFMpeg libs?
[11:57] <Tomi-idle> sander5: tim_ might be able to help better
[11:58] <tim_> tom-idle: what is the question?
[11:58] <Tomi-idle> solarwaver: have you got the w32codecs (or w64codecs if you're running 64bit) installed?
[11:58] <solarwaver> the w32 codecs ?
[11:58] <solarwaver> what is that?
[11:58] <NiceGuyUK> !w32codecs
[11:58] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[11:58] <Tomi-idle> tim_: missing 100g after using livecd.
[11:59] <Tomi-idle> solarwaver: use medibuntu repository to get the codecs :)
[11:59] <tim_> thats a wireless card right?
[11:59] <Tomi-idle> solarwaver: there's info on the forums too, people have problems running mkv's for some reason. i did too until it fixed itself magically:)
[12:00] <tim_> or as in 100 gigs have disapeared?
[12:00] <Tomi-idle> tim_: 100gb sorry ;=
[12:00] <Tomi-idle> yeah dissappeared
[12:00] <tim_> ok well when he reapears he can pastebin an fdisk list
[12:00] <solarwaver> tomi-idle i use kubuntu what is medibuntu?
[12:01] <sander5> tim, I'm afraid I partioned my hard disk, convinced that it was only virtual. When i realized it wasn't virtual, i canceled. Now my hard disk, normally 250 gigabite, is now only 155 gigabite. How do i restore it?
[12:02] <tim_> is there any data on it that needs preserving?
[12:02] <Tomi-idle> solarwaver: medibuntu is another ubuntu distro. (k)ubuntu by default doesn't have the codecs needed to play video files on by default in their repository. so you need to enable the medibuntu repository to get them installed through adept or apt-get
[12:03] <solarwaver> tomi-idle how i do that?
[12:03] <sander5> tim, there is data that needs preserving. yeah. You mean i have to format my hard disk?
[12:03] <tim_> sander5: also can you run "sudo fdisk /dev/hd?" then v, and tell me what it says
[12:04] <tim_> well the simplest way would be to nuke it, but we can try and figure out whats wrong and fix that. has data disapeared?
[12:05] <sander5> tim, hold on i'm trying.
[12:05] <tim_> the ? is for "your drive letter here"
[12:06] <ricky_> hello,..
[12:07] <tim_> sander5: also the output of "p" in fdisk
[12:07] <Tomi-idle> !libdvdcss2
[12:07] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:07] <solarwaver> tomi-idle how i do that?
[12:08] <Tomi-idle> solarwaver: trying to find a page with easy explanation :)
[12:09] <Tomi-idle> solarwaver: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu    there's info on dvd codecs and w32codecs
[12:10] <solarwaver> ok
[12:13] <sander5> tim, it can't find what you suggest.
[12:18] <tim_> in the terminal for the first hard drive you type "sudo fdisk /dev/hda"
[12:18] <tim_> you get a prompt where you type in v
[12:18] <tim_> that checks the partition table for errors and tells you if you have unallocated sector
[12:18] <tim_> i.e. a bloody great hole from an incomplete write or something
[12:19] <tim_> then you run v, and we have a look at the output which will show any holes, and what the HD thinks it is.
[12:20] <tim_> btw, when you say 100 gb missing, I'm assuming you mean capacity in / or something, rather than 100gb of files
[12:21] <sander5> yeah, i mean capacity
[12:21] <tim_> and er, you ran the  "sudo fdisk /dev/hda" thing, what came up
[12:22] <sander5> still trying, i'm not real good in this.
[12:23] <tim_> if fails can you run "vi /boot/grub/device.map" as that will tell us the harddrives name. only one drive right?
[12:24] <sander5> yeah, one hard disk
[12:24] <tim_> so the fdisk thing, did it work?
[12:25] <sander5> i'm afraid nothing works when i paste it in run
[12:26] <tim_> lol no
[12:26] <tim_> this is into a terminal
[12:27] <tim_> otherwise it will run but you wont see anything
[12:27] <tim_> go in system and choose "konsole"
[12:27] <tim_> bring you up a black window like the command prompt in windows.
[12:28] <sander5> i see
[12:28] <tim_> terminals where its at ;)
[12:37] <sander5> I give up, thanks anyway.
[12:37] <zsz> does anyone else besides me have a weird 5px wide white box around taskbar and tooltips when using compiz-fusion?
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[12:48] <user__> ?
[12:48] <yamal> !ru | user__
[12:48] <ubotu> user__:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[12:56] <max__> coucou
[12:57] <max__> hello
[01:00] <kdxx> how should i run / install this  nvidia install script i found in dapper drake,, http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html ?
[01:01] <gnomefreak> kdxx: dont
[01:01] <kdxx> errr envy_0.9.7-0ubuntu8_all.deb
[01:01] <gnomefreak> kdxx: install them from repos
[01:01] <kdxx> whats repos?
[01:01] <gnomefreak> kdxx: envy wont upgrade with you and you cant uninstall all parts of it once installed and that will only hurt you down the line
[01:02] <gnomefreak> kdxx: nvidia is in ubuntu repos
[01:02] <backpro> i have ubuntu (gnome desktop) did i can install kde desktop ??
[01:02] <gnomefreak> kdxx: nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new depending on what ubuntu version and what card you have
[01:02] <gnomefreak> theres also nvidia-legecy(sp)
[01:03] <kdxx> kubuntu dapper drake with nvidia quadro 4 card
[01:03] <gnomefreak> backpro: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:03] <gnomefreak> kdxx: should be nvidia-glx
[01:03] <gnomefreak> kdxx: its in multiverse repo
[01:04] <gnomefreak> backpro: once installed you can choose what you want to boot into at the log in screen
[01:04] <kdxx> ok so multiverse repo is graphics driver?
[01:04] <gnomefreak> it has the graphics drivers in it among alot of other packages
[01:05] <gnomefreak> multiverse == nonfree packages
[01:05] <gnomefreak> java graphics drivers and like 2000 other packages give or take
[01:06] <Ben_Cs> i connected my ipod shuffle to comp, and run amarok, but get the error: Klibloader could not load the plugin: libamarok_ipod-mediadevice Error-message: libgpod.so.1 cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.
[01:06] <Ben_Cs> please help
[01:06] <kdxx> can you find me a ultra relevant weblink
[01:07] <sbucat> youtube-dl works?
[01:08] <emilsedgh> Ben_Cs: do you have libgpod installed?
[01:08] <emilsedgh> !info libgpod1
[01:08] <ubotu> libgpod1: a library to read and write songs and artwork to an iPod. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.2-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 168 kB, installed size 360 kB
[01:09] <Ben_Cs> and?
[01:10] <Ben_Cs> what do i do?
[01:10] <Ben_Cs> /usr/lib/libgpod.so.2  /usr/lib/libgpod.so.2.0.0 is what is installed
[01:11] <Ben_Cs> but it looks for libgpod.so.1
[01:11] <Ben_Cs> help!
[01:13] <erik__> hello
[01:13] <kdxx> where can I find multiverse repo to install?
[01:13] <kdxx> or can i do it form cl?
[01:14] <Pirate_Hunter> who can help me fix main panel problem on kde?  i removed from panel but every time i start ktorrent it dont show on task bar, how cna i fix this?
[01:14] <erik__> witch ati driver should I have to use? ati or fglrx?
[01:14] <SlimeyPete> do you want 3D support?
[01:15] <erik__> of course
[01:15] <SlimeyPete> then you need fglrx
[01:15] <SlimeyPete> good luck ;)
[01:15] <Pirate_Hunter> who can help me fix main panel problem on kde?  i removed something from panel and now every time i start ktorrent it dont show on task bar, how cna i fix this?
[01:15] <erik__> is it better than the ati driver?
[01:15] <kdxx> oh i c
[01:16] <SlimeyPete> erik__: "fglrx" is very buggy and lots of people have problems with it, but "ati" won't give you 3D support.
[01:16] <kdxx> yea so back to my orig question, how to run this script envy_0.9.7-0ubuntu8_all.deb ?
[01:17] <kdxx> sh ./envy_0.9.7-0ubuntu8_all.deb?
[01:17] <SlimeyPete> it's not a script, it's a .deb package
[01:17] <erik__> should i buy a nvidia card for having a stable 3D?
[01:17] <Pirate_Hunter> who can help me fix main panel problem on kde?  i removed something from panel and now every time i start ktorrent it dont show on task bar, how cna i fix this?
[01:17] <SlimeyPete> so sudo dpkg -i envy_0.9.7-0ubuntu8_all.deb   , kdxx . That will install it.
[01:18] <SlimeyPete> erik__: Try fglrx first. If it doesn't work, then buy an nvidia.
[01:18] <SlimeyPete> The nvidia drivers are OK (not perfect but they usually work quite well)
[01:18] <emilsedgh> Pirate_Hunter: right click on panel and click on Add Applet
[01:18] <erik__> is nvidia faster than ati under Linux?
[01:19] <erik__> i mean Kubuntu
[01:19] <Pirate_Hunter> emilsedgh: done that but which option do i choose after that?
[01:19] <SlimeyPete> dunno, I've never compared speeds
[01:19] <emilsedgh> Pirate_Hunter: find system tray
[01:20] <Pirate_Hunter> emilsedgh: found it i dded that not it shows, kl thanx but i have another question... how do i stop ktorrent from crashing?
[01:20] <emilsedgh> Pirate_Hunter: file a bug report :P
[01:21] <elite101> dam i got school in like 20mins :D
[01:21] <Pirate_Hunter> emilsedgh: (-_-") where do i do that?
[01:21] <emilsedgh> elite101: RUN! LP
[01:21] <emilsedgh> s/LP/:P
[01:21] <erik__> who is use windows here?
[01:21] <elite101> i do?
[01:21] <elite101>  "
[01:21] <emilsedgh> !bug | Pirate_Hunter
[01:21] <ubotu> Pirate_Hunter: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[01:22] <elite101> "/join ##windows" erik__, joinj that channel
[01:23] <Pirate_Hunter> what are the languages that linux users use?
[01:23] <emilsedgh> Pirate_Hunter: what?
[01:24] <Pirate_Hunter> what programing languages do linux user use i.e. windows would be C++, c, vissual basic , my sql etc
[01:25] <elite101> python?
[01:25] <elite101> html screamer?
[01:25] <kdxx> i am trying to save the .deb package from this site http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html and then install it but im having trouble, how should i save it to my computer so that it can be properyl installed?
[01:25] <SlimeyPete> Pirate_Hunter: usually C, C++, Perl, Python, Bash. There are hundreds of languages which you can compile under Linux though.
[01:25] <elite101> i find more "hardware hacks" to be coded in Python that i find online anyways
[01:25] <emilsedgh> Pirate_Hunter: Linux Kernel is mostly in C and some assembly, QT/KDE are written in C++, while there are bindings for other languages like Python, Ruby, C# and even PHP, GTK+/gnome is written in C, with Bindings...
[01:26] <elite101> :D wow!!!
[01:26] <elite101> mhm i wonder if its possible to code a Whole Distro (kernel and all) with just usuing C,C++,Python,Ruby,C#,php?
[01:26] <Pirate_Hunter> is python & ruby difficult to learn or are they just another variation  of a different language
[01:27] <emilsedgh> Pirate_Hunter: i dunno about Ruby, but python is really easy and cool
[01:27] <Pirate_Hunter> emilsedgh: im looking for a new language to learn so how efficient is python or ruby? what can i do with them?
[01:28] <emilsedgh> Pirate_Hunter: I think you could do everything with python...from web programmin, until kapplication...Ubuntu/Kubuntu installer is written in python
[01:29] <elite101> what is a client for windows that shares files with linux what program do i use on windows?
[01:29] <emilsedgh> elite101: Samba
[01:29] <SlimeyPete> !samba
[01:29] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:29] <elite101> yeah
[01:29] <elite101> no on windows
[01:29] <Pirate_Hunter> emilsedgh: hmm its that powerful/efficient i understand will look into it and give it a try
[01:29] <elite101> i dont need a linux program
[01:29] <SlimeyPete> elite101: samba = Windows File Sharing
[01:29] <elite101> but a windows program
[01:29] <SlimeyPete> it's built in to Windows
[01:29] <elite101> okay
[01:29] <elite101> thanx
[01:30] <emilsedgh> Pirate_Hunter: Im a web developer, but a few times I looked at python.its so easy...
[01:30] <Pirate_Hunter> I read somewhere that pearl is eviil, if i remember it right its a combination of c++ & VB (not sure about this one) with some new features
[01:30] <Ben_Cs> hello
[01:31] <elite101> gotta go to schoo; bye
[01:31] <emilsedgh> bye elite101
[01:31] <elite101> :D i hate school :D
[01:31] <Pirate_Hunter> u hate school but use linux
[01:31] <Pirate_Hunter> erhm how that works
[01:32] <SlimeyPete> lots of geeks hate school. School can be very boring.
[01:32] <emilsedgh> Pirate_Hunter: AFAIK, now perl is mostly used by ServerAdmins for write their administrating scripts
[01:32] <Pirate_Hunter> SlimeyPete: its easier for me to say that as im in university :)
[01:33] <Pirate_Hunter> emilsedgh: thanx thats clearing a lot, im taking programming serious now and thought if im going to be using linux might as well look at how it is written
[01:34] <emilsedgh> Pirate_Hunter: so $linuxDevs++; ;)
[01:35] <Pirate_Hunter> emilsedgh: im not tyring to compile linux or its kernel dont think im ready for that just trying to learn the languages for its programs somehting to add to my list
[01:36] <emilsedgh> Pirate_Hunter: you need to know what you want to do, if you want to create an Application, you have nothing to do with Linux, you have to know about QT/KDE or GTK+/Gnome
[01:40] <_4strO> emilsedgh: QT and GTK+ are a way to make graphicl apps
[01:41] <XenThraL> hi, I'm trying to compile wxSQlite3, but its giving me an error message, "configure: error: cannot run /bin/bash build/config.sub", I have changed permissions on /build/config.sub to see if it would fix it, but it didn't seem to help
[01:41] <_4strO> emilsedgh: but behind the interface you have to program instruction
[01:41] <Pirate_Hunter> emilsedgh: sorry back had to talk to my grandmother on the fone, now that was unnexpected
[01:41] <XenThraL> this trying to run ./configure
[01:41] <_4strO> emilsedgh: some bash, python, ... progs, isnt it ?
[01:44] <XenThraL> could someone perhaps try to build it and see if they have any luck?
[01:44] <XenThraL> please? :)
[01:58] <eduard> hello world
[02:00] <eduard> i've read on the ubuntu forums that you shouldn't add an entry of you usb stick because 'fstab is for permanent harddrives' is that true?
[02:00] <stdin> yep
[02:01] <eduard> ok, thanks
[02:02] <garfield> stdin: mplayer is not playing the flash videos.when i do play it stops
[02:03] <garfield>  mplayer is not playing the flash videos.when i do play it stops
[02:09] <garfield>  mplayer is not playing the flash videos.when i do play it stops
[02:22] <indensiff> hallo
[02:22] <indensiff> need help for compiz
[02:24] <indensiff> keine ahnung vom chatten und keine Ahnung von Linux...kann nicht gutgehen
[02:25] <indensiff> bin ich hier im privatchat mit mir selber?
[02:27] <garfield> !it | indensiff
[02:27] <ubotu> indensiff: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:28] <indensiff> sorry
[02:30] <sini|work> !de | indensiff
[02:30] <ubotu> indensiff: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:31] <indensiff> thanx @ ubotu
[02:31] <indensiff> cu
[02:31] <garfield> ??
[02:31] <sini|work> garfield: That was german, not italian *g*
[02:32] <garfield> sini|work: how i sopose to know i dont speek none of them lol :p
[02:32] <sini|work> :o)
[02:33] <sini|work> I just corrected it to direct him to the correct channel
[02:33] <garfield> sini|work: so de is for german ok i'll remember that
[02:33] <sini|work> garfield: yes
[02:33] <garfield> genii:  how do u do the thing with the star***?
[02:33] <garfield> sini|work: and for deutch?
[02:33] <Jucato> garfield: you were already told that hours ago....
[02:34] <Jucato> deutsche
[02:34] <garfield> Jucato: dont u sleep? and i never got tru to do it
[02:34] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[02:34] <garfield> Jucato: u does explain up side down lol :p
[02:34] <Jucato> garfield: you remember how you changed nicks? this time, use /me instead of /nick
[02:35] <Jucato> all IRC commands start with a /
[02:35] <garfield> lol
[02:35] <garfield> tanks
[02:35] <garfield> !ohmy | garfield
[02:36] <garfield> Jucato:  are there any others?
[02:36] <sini|work> garfield: What do you mean with "for deutch"?
[02:36] <Jucato> sini|work: why "de" is for German
[02:37] <Jucato> it's the ISO thingy for German/Germany I think
[02:37] <sini|work> Correct
[02:38] <garfield> so de is for deutch?
[02:38] <cinzuto> hi
[02:38] <sini|work> garfield: yep, it is
[02:38] <garfield> sini|work: u send the persone to get lost lol
[02:38] <cinzuto> can i've a small help?
[02:38] <garfield> cinzuto: shot
[02:38] <sini|work> (correct spelling is "deutsch" btw.) ;o)
[02:39] <Jucato> !ask | cinzuto
[02:39] <ubotu> cinzuto: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:39] <garfield> lol
[02:39] <cinzuto> garfield: i'm an italian user, my kubuntu don't show icons
[02:39] <sini|work> garfield: No, he is being helped this very moment in #kubuntu-de.
[02:40] <Jucato> !it | cinzuto
[02:40] <ubotu> cinzuto: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:41] <garfield> cinzuto: witch icons?on your desktop?
[02:41] <DexterF> hi
[02:41] <cinzuto> garfield: yes
[02:42] <cinzuto> also that on barmenu
[02:42] <DexterF> anyone else having broken mountpoints when mounting smb or sshfs?
[02:42] <garfield> cinzuto: lol did u just install linux?
[02:42] <cinzuto> garfield: yes
[02:43] <cinzuto> garfield:'i've installed it now
[02:43] <garfield> cinzuto: i had the same problem with mine 1day ago.try this sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:44] <MadCaddies> how do i list different levels availables for a man page?
[02:44] <garfield> cinzuto: if it dont works try to upgrade
[02:44] <cinzuto> garfield: in wich mode?
[02:45] <garfield> cinzuto: in a normale konsole type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:45] <cinzuto> ok
[02:45] <yeniklasorr> How to start an executable file from command line in the background ?
[02:46] <garfield> cinzuto: if it tells u it cannot do it there try the root mode
[02:46] <garfield> console
[02:47] <cinzuto> garfield: i've try but message says that this is th last version
[02:48] <garfield> cinzuto: try to upgrade
[02:48] <BluesKaj> what's the command to open smb in konq ? I've forgotten
[02:48] <genii> smb://
[02:49] <XenThraL> hi, having trouble compiling wxSQLite, new to linux, was wondering if someone could give me a hand
[02:49] <cinzuto> garfield: i've try
[02:49] <XenThraL> run ./configure and it just gives me "configure: error: cannot run /bin/bash build/config.sub"
[02:49] <BluesKaj> NM i got it
[02:49] <garfield> cinzuto: what did it give as result?
[02:50] <BluesKaj> thx genii , the locate cmnd was getting in the way :)
[02:51] <genii> BluesKaj: :)
[02:54] <dwidmann> Wow, I think I finally found a winner of a webhost, about time ...
[02:54] <BluesKaj> so genii, I guess using konq on the network is the way to go ..no need for smb4k ?
[02:55] <melkor> Is there a good way to use command line programs with file associations?
[02:55] <genii> BluesKaj: I just use Konqueror mainly for local browsing, smb, nfs, bluetooth etc
[02:55] <melkor> I have mpg321 associated with .mp3 files and it goes fast except it leaves a 'loading mpg321' in my task bar for awhile.
[02:56] <garfield> ?
[02:56] <dwidmann> melkor: well, you could probably set up entries in the kmenu  to run programs in a konsole
[02:56] <melkor> konsole is a little slow too
[02:57] <melkor> It would still be better than amorak though.
[02:57] <BluesKaj> genii, right ..this our lil network here ...mainly 2 pcs and once in a while, one of the kids' laptops.
[02:57] <dwidmann> I suppose everyone has different tastes eh melkor
[02:58] <genii> OK, asked already in #ubuntu but i'll throw this out here too: When both a nic and a modem, the When both a nic and a modem, the /etc/ppp/resolv.conf at first gets used, then when dhcp refreshes nic IP, pppd DNS fails as the regular /etc/resolv.conf now takes precedence again. Any way around this?
[02:58] <genii> BluesKaj: Just think of it as the start of something larger ;)
[02:59] <genii> bleh, messy copy/paste there but you get the idea
[02:59] <melkor> I guess I'm really asking whats the proper way to run a terminal application from an icon.
[03:01] <melkor> Or maybe what is a good lightweight mpg321 player, that goes away when finished?
[03:02] <xp_killer> melkor: hard to answer you might find the answer in www.googlecom . remeber google is your friend :-D
[03:02] <melkor> I'm on it too.
[03:03] <dwidmann> melkor: maybe something like kaboodle?
[03:04] <melkor> ill look at it.
[03:05] <dwidmann> melkor: noatun could also be a winner
[03:07] <BluesKaj> ya know linux could use some media types to come up with names that have some pizzaz to them ...'noatun' doesn't inspire me to try it even :)
[03:07] <xp_killer> dwidmann:  how do i enable the Flash add-on (via --enable-add-ons=kflashpart)
[03:07] <xp_killer> in konqueror
[03:08] <melkor> well thanks for the tips Ill keep looking
[03:08] <dwidmann> xp_killer: sorry, I don't think I've heard of that, I just always used flash directly.
[03:09] <Fsh> hi i have 2 problem frist one with wireless can`t establish connection and secoand problem with limeware i want to remove it
[03:09] <xp_killer> dwidmann: i install flash nonfree but just the sound playin i dont have view of the video
[03:10] <dwidmann> xp_killer: hm, that's odd, is it like that for all flash stuff, or just for a certain site?
[03:10] <xp_killer> site
[03:11] <xp_killer> this site like u to use real player with it if u got fire fox
[03:11] <tinin> Hi, does anybody know how to use Nx remote connection software?
[03:11] <dwidmann> xp_killer: maybe it's a bug in flash or something, or a problem with linux flash, or something else like that.
[03:12] <xp_killer> dwidmann: it playing in fire fox but a kind of slow and i cant control the viedo or do full screen so i want it to play with konqueror
[03:12] <BluesKaj> xp_killer, sometimes java is the culprit , make sure you've got java-common and j2re1.4 , for a minimum.
[03:13] <xp_killer> dwidmann: or maybe it's telling me its a bad website that it dont want me to view >_<
[03:13] <dwidmann> xp_killer: that's usually the hint that I take
[03:13] <dwidmann> xp_killer: when a site is a PITA I decide it's time to find another site :)
[03:14] <BluesKaj> xp_killer, read above !
[03:14] <BluesKaj> ppl get hung up about flash when java is the cause
[03:14] <xp_killer> abon dwidmann but the one i had befor they shut down and the others i find suck this one allmost like my fave
[03:15] <xp_killer> BluesKaj: java is the cause of me not seing the video just hearin the sound?
[03:15] <BluesKaj> yup
[03:15] <BluesKaj> flash and java work together
[03:16] <xp_killer> BluesKaj: so then i'll go in adep n install javas with option of flash then
[03:16] <xp_killer> to see if it helps
[03:16] <BluesKaj> or it could be the cause , not absolutely certain
[03:17] <dwidmann> xp_killer: the sun-java5-jre and sun-java6-jre packages are good bets (or perhaps ia32-sun-java6-bin too if you run x86_64)
[03:17] <kkathman> Does anyone else have problems with KTorrent crashing fairly often?
[03:18] <stdin> kkathman: try disabling DHT
[03:18] <yaccin> can i configure kaffeine to start in fullscreen if i open a playlist?
[03:18] <kkathman> stdin:  ohh really??
[03:18] <kkathman> hmm ok
[03:19] <stdin> kkathman: there's a bug in one of the versions in DHT that makes it crash after a while
[03:19] <tron__> Does anyone know how to setup the smtp on a mail server heeeeeeeelppp
[03:20] <BluesKaj> which client tron__ ?
[03:20] <kkathman> stdin:  ok thanks - I wondered why i never encountered it on my SUSE box, but did here for some reason - the version thing might explain it
[03:20] <savetheWorld> tron__: smtp is a protocol used to transfer mail.  all mail server's use it
[03:20] <dwidmann> I don't think so yaccin, but you could set a nice shortcut (say the f key), for fullscreen.
[03:20] <savetheWorld> tron__: are you asking how to setup a mail server?
[03:21] <Fsh> is ther anyone can solve my problem
[03:21] <yaccin> dwidmann: i dont know if i have a keyboard at the presentation :P
[03:21] <dwidmann> Fsh: that depends on what your problem is :P
[03:21] <tron__> sorry im busy setting up a mail server using webmin
[03:21] <Jucato> dwidmann: internet connection and removing limewire
[03:21] <dwidmann> yaccin: how about kmplayer? I think it can be set to do it
 hi i have 2 problem frist one with wireless can`t establish connection and secoand problem with limeware i want to remove it
[03:22] <BluesKaj> !wireless | Fsh
[03:22] <ubotu> Fsh: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:22] <Fsh> ok thanks
[03:22] <yaccin> hmmm but i like kaffeine more :P
[03:22] <dwidmann> Fsh: if you installed something like frostwire for limewire, it should be as easy as removing the package with adept/dpkg/apt
[03:22] <yaccin> does kmplayer supports video playlists?
[03:22] <BluesKaj> Fsh, it's not limeware , it's limewire
[03:22] <dwidmann> yaccin: yes
[03:22] <yaccin> BluesKaj: frostwire? :)
[03:23] <yaccin> dwidmann: ill try it then
[03:23] <hydrogen> dood
[03:23] <xp_killer> dwidmann: stdin is back form land befor time lol.he's good in solving problem with linux lol he does eat,sleep with linux
[03:23] <xp_killer> lol
[03:23] <hydrogen> discover bittorrent
[03:23] <BluesKaj> or frostwire ..even
[03:23] <hydrogen> and be happy
[03:23] <dwidmann> yaccin: I like kaffeine better too, but kmplayer I find a little less annoying at times
[03:23] <hydrogen> codine++
[03:23] <tron__> using dovecot for imap which is working great but now unable to send mail
[03:23] <hydrogen> codeine*
[03:23] <joselinares> porfa... el enlace para espaol
[03:23] <hydrogen> !es
[03:23] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:24] <joselinares> gracias
[03:24] <Jucato> joselinares: ^^^^
[03:24] <BluesKaj> one thing, I have gnormalize installed , but it's broken and refuses to uninstall cuz it doesn't seem to be 'installed"
[03:25] <xp_killer> stdin: i install flash nonfree for konqueror but i only got the sound no image
[03:25] <Fsh> this is not the problem the problem is ther is access point but it can`t connect
[03:25] <stdin> xp_killer: have you tried in another browser ?
[03:26] <yaccin> dwidmann: i cant find the option in kmplayer -_-
[03:27] <xp_killer> stdin: yes firefox from wine work with the real player pluging but firefox that i install from adept doesnt play the flash
[03:27] <tron__> Hello anyone know how to setup an smtp on a mail server ive setup the fetchmail and dovecot but now i can't send mail I have postfix installed but have no idea how to setup the smtp
[03:27] <stdin> xp_killer: firefox will pick up the nonfree flash plugin
[03:28] <dwidmann> fsh, try connecting with knetworkmanagers manual connect option, perhaps it will work then?
[03:29] <xp_killer> stdin: well firefox dont play the video only the one i install with wine
[03:30] <xp_killer> stdin: are there anymore plugins for flash in adept?
[03:30] <dwidmann> yaccin: ack, I thought it could, maybe I was thinking of something else (I have way too many video players installed. In an ideal world you'd think I'd only need one .....) Anyhow, I almost guarentee vlc has such an option. Another way around all of this problem is to use "configure window behavior" to force an app to full screen on start (I think this can be done, but I'll have to check)
[03:30] <genii> When connected pppd, DHCP refresh on eth0 makes /etc/resolv.conf default again when should stay /etc/ppp/resolv.conf until modem disconnects. any ideas?
[03:30] <jhatlelid> x2vnc users? My mouse does not position correctly on remote computer
[03:30] <Fsh> dwidmann where can i found it ?
[03:30] <yaccin> yes vlc does have that option somehow... i think it was editing .vlcrc or something like that... but i dont really want to install another video player :D
[03:31] <dwidmann> Fsh: assuming you have network manager running, there should be an icon in the system tray, right click it, should be an option for manually setting things there)
[03:31] <stdin> xp_killer: what's the contents of /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ ?
[03:32] <dwidmann> yaccin: there is indeed an option for full screen in configure window behaviour, try applying this to kaffeine, and starting kaffeine to see if it's full screened properly
[03:33] <xp_killer> stdin: theres no flashplugin-nonfree in it
[03:34] <yaccin> dwidmann: yay it worked :D thanks :D
[03:34] <dwidmann> yaccin: no problem :)
[03:35] <stdin> xp_killer: I didn't ask that, I ask what _is_ in there
[03:35] <tinin> jhatlelid: have you tried Nx?, It is not the same, but gives you remote control and much faster
[03:36] <xp_killer> stdin: do u want me to tell u wa all is in there?it's a hacel to rite all i'll just take a pic and upload it
[03:37] <xp_killer> stdin: give me a link to upload the pic?
[03:37] <tron__> Relay access denied
[03:37] <stdin> xp_killer: open a konsole, type in "ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/" and post that to pastebin
[03:37] <AngryElf_> hey folks, what packages do I need to install to play streams through amarok?
[03:38] <AngryElf_> the error I'm getting is "No suitable demux plugin. This often means that the file format is not suported"  of course it doesn't tell me what type of file it is
[03:39] <arkygeek> hih
[03:40] <xp_killer> stdin: http://pastebin.com/d40a14c35
[03:40] <arkygeek> has anyone here installed kubuntu FF onto a new imac (natively and in parallels?)
[03:41] <stdin> xp_killer: you should probably remove libflash-mozplugin then restart firefox and try again
[03:42] <gilles> hello everybody
[03:42] <gilles> I have a problem with nvidia driver
[03:42] <xp_killer> stdin: I'LL TRY BUT NOT NOW ADEPT IS INSTALLIN SOME THINGS and its takin time
[03:42] <gilles> is there anyone can help me ?
[03:43] <xp_killer> !ask | gilles
[03:43] <ubotu> gilles: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:45] <gilles> after the installation of the free nvidia drivers (nvidia-glx-new) I have a black screen
[03:45] <gilles> I can't do anything
[03:46] <BluesKaj> gilles, ctrl+alt+f2
[03:46] <gilles> someone tell me that I must blaklist some modules but I don't how which and how
[03:47] <gilles> ctrl+alt+f2 don't do anything: my computer is lock when i have the black screen
[03:47] <WaxyFresh> is there anyway to change the kubuntu logo/progress bar that i see when kubuntu is loading?
[03:47] <BluesKaj> gilles, then type ' dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ' at the prompt
[03:48] <WaxyFresh> i upgraded to kde4 now my kmenu is gone among other things
[03:49] <BluesKaj> kde4 is not an upgrade , it's still experimental :)
[03:49] <hjalle> WaxyFresh: the kde bootscreen?
[03:49] <WaxyFresh> yup
[03:50] <WaxyFresh> um the kubuntu logo that pops up right after grub
[03:50] <gilles> BluesKaj: It's the same problem
[03:51] <hjalle> look in system settings -> Splash screen
[03:52] <BluesKaj> gilles, do you have a prompt ?
[03:52] <gilles> BluesKaj: no
[03:53] <gilles> BluesKaj: I have those lines in the Xorg.0.log
[03:53] <gilles> BluesKaj:
[03:53] <gilles> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! Please ensure
[03:53] <gilles> (EE) NVIDIA(0):     that there is a supported NVIDIA GPU in this system, and
[03:53] <gilles> (EE) NVIDIA(0):     that the NVIDIA device files have been created properly.
[03:53] <gilles> (EE) NVIDIA(0):     Please consult the NVIDIA README for details.
[03:53] <gilles> (EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***
[03:53] <stdin> !paste
[03:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:54] <BluesKaj> ok, gilles wull need to use the kubuntu live-cd to edit your xorg-xserver file ...is that correct stdin?
[03:54] <stdin> BluesKaj: recovery mode should work
[03:55] <dwidmann> gilles: what video card do you have (if you don't know, pastebin the output of "sudo lshw -class video")
[03:55] <frojnd> HELP PLEASE. when I try to start ntop with specific folder for data saving (Like this: ntop -P /var/lib/ntop")there is somekind of an error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36432/
[03:55] <gilles> stdin: yes i did it to replace nvidia by nv to recover X
[03:56] <BluesKaj> gilles , did you see that ? .. stdin advises to use the recovery mode at the grub screen
[03:56] <stdin> gilles: how did you install it?
[03:56] <gilles> dwidmann: I have a geforce 7600 gs (reva2)
[03:56] <mrhex> hey, i got this odd problem, i have installed compiz-fusion, on kubuntu (feisty) But i seem unable to get more then 2 desktops, even if i set 4 desktops. by rightclicking the desktop icons and configuring them. this causes me to get a 2 sided cube, well a flipping page tbh. Any ideas on what i am doing wrong, cuz it most likely is that which is the problem.
[03:56] <stdin> frojnd: sudo ?
[03:57] <frojnd> The error is when I do sudo. If no sudo than nothing executes...
[03:57] <frojnd> stdin,
[03:57] <gilles> BluesKaj: yes I did it to remplace nvidia by nv in the xorg.conf, but it's not solve my problem
[03:58] <gilles> stdin: first I try apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[03:58] <dwidmann> hmm, it shouldn't be any trouble... gilles, try doing ctrl + alt + backspace if it doesn't want to let you switch to a tty, maybe instead of dying immediately the xserver hung (happens sometimes/rarely)
[03:58] <stdin> mrhex: you have to set the number of desktops in the compiz settings, make sure you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed and run ccsm (from Alt-f2)
[03:59] <gilles> stdin: after I try the proprietary driver
[03:59] <gilles> stdin: and finally I try envy
[03:59] <stdin> frojnd: not sure then, you can try creating the directory manually but that kinda defeats the point
[04:00] <frojnd> stdin, yep it surely does
[04:00] <stdin> gilles: sounds a bit messed up, try re-running the envy script
[04:00] <BluesKaj> gilles, you need to change drivers or screen/monitor settings , the way to do it is edit the xorg file to use the vesa driver to get your screen back first of all , if recovery mode doesn't work
[04:01] <gilles> BluesKaj: the recovery mode work
[04:01] <mrhex> stdin I have done that,, i have Number of desktops 4 set. The odd thing is that in the taskbar i see 6 icons of desktops, but when ctrl+alt+mouse1 i only get a 2 sided one. also when clicking the icons in taskbar portraying the desktops i switch between 2 desktops.
[04:02] <stdin> mrhex: try asking in #ubuntu-effects I don't know that much about compiz-fusion's settings
[04:03] <gilles> BLUESKaj: but I don't know what Imust do to solve my problem
[04:03] <mrhex> stdin, will do thanks.
[04:03] <modor> oops, i was looking for ubuntu channel
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> w00t!!! new ATI drivers coming!
[04:06] <spawn57> what's a good p2p app for kde?
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> ktorrent
[04:06] <stdin> !p2p
[04:06] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[04:07] <dwidmann> nosrednaekim: but the question is will they actually be decent this trip around
[04:07] <spawn57> thanks
[04:07] <BluesKaj> gilles , open system settings/monitor&display/hardware/ admin mode / configure ...choose the nvidia driver that fits your graphics card , and the the monitor driver that fits yours , then "apply"
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> dwidmann: phoronix says the performance is from 50% to 10x better performance
[04:08] <tron__> Help with mail server
[04:08] <dwidmann> nosrednaekim: wow, so it sounds like they might be getting the performance nailed down (finally), now how about some stability. Stability would be nice.
[04:08] <dwidmann> Or lack of bugs.
[04:08] <dwidmann> Or both.
[04:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> that makes me a little sad
[04:09] <MadCaddies> tron__: go ahead with your enquiring
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=821&num=1
[04:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> no eyecandy repo for gutsy from trevino yet :)
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: who needs that? its all in gutsy,,
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: hows gutsy doing BTW?
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> no AIGLX yet though... that comes next month
[04:09] <tron__> I've setup fetchmail and dovecot but now having problems setting up smtp
[04:10] <tron__> Cannot send mail
[04:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's going pretty well
[04:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> the upgrade was smooth, though not *quite* as smooth as i'd hoped
[04:11] <MadCaddies> *inquiring i mean
[04:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> and i wanted the eyecandy repo for avant-window-navigator
[04:11] <dwidmann> Daisuke_Laptop: it'll probably be smoother at final release time (or so we can hope)
[04:11] <spawn57> awn looks awesome =D
[04:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> dwidmann: nah, it was my fault
[04:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> i did a manual upgrade
[04:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> and forgot to grub-update...
[04:11] <MadCaddies> tron__: tailf -f /var/log/mail.log
[04:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> so i was getting gutsy, with the old kernel
[04:12] <dwidmann> it went relatively smooth for me, though it held back a small handful of packages.
[04:13] <dwidmann> wvdial, parts of guidance, digikam, I forget what else was held back.
[04:14] <dwidmann> Oh well, seeing as the large doses of caffeine don't seem to be having any effect, I think I'm going to take a nap.
[04:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> but oh man does the new driver make a world of difference.  the new appearance applet is a bonus, i can see all of my appearance settings now :)  (gnome here)
[04:18] <tron__> Sep  3 09:59:05 TRON postfix/master[8439] : daemon started -- version 2.3.8, configuration /etc/postfix
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: so gutsy is pretty stable>
[04:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> eh...  so far
[04:19] <tron__> MadCaddies Sep  3 09:59:05 TRON postfix/master[8439] : daemon started -- version 2.3.8, configuration /etc/postfix
[04:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> and it looks like ati is going in the right direction with its linux drivers...
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: indeed.. i'm excited
[04:21] <gilles> BluesKaj: the module is loaded but it don't find my gpu
[04:21] <gilles> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36434/
[04:24] <MadCaddies> tron__: sorry man, i need to go... try #postfix, #ubuntu, #debian
[04:24] <ScorpKing> hi everyone. if i grep and filter the output of ifconfig ppp0 to get rx bytes eg 34355 and tx bytes 3456 how do i add them together in bash?
[04:26] <backpro> i have ubuntu with gnome desktop and now i install kde (apt-get install kubuntu-desktop) how i chose between kde and gnome when i restart the pc ???
[04:27] <ubunturos> backpro: you should see an option "Session" when you enter your username password in Ubuntu
[04:27] <ubunturos> you can choose a KDE / GNOME session
[04:28] <backpro> ok thank you
[04:28] <ubunturos> backpro: welcome :)
[04:28] <backpro> i wanna ask you something else
[04:29] <backpro> this kubuntu-desktop any version of kde have ??
[04:29] <ubunturos> backpro: are you asking which version of KDE does kubuntu-desktop include?
[04:29] <yaccin> whats does "intel_rng: FWH not detected" mean?
[04:30] <backpro> yes
[04:30] <ubunturos> backpro: which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[04:30] <backpro> 6.10 edgy
[04:30] <backpro> and i download kubuntu-desktop now
[04:31] <ubunturos> backpro: it would be 3.5.x (where x could be greater than 2, the upper bound is not known to me)
[04:31] <backpro> can i download kde4 beta ??
[04:31] <ubunturos> backpro: yes, but if you are really sure, you would want to try it
[04:32] <ubunturos> backpro: beta software is for testers
[04:32] <BluesKaj> is there a DTS audio player available for linux ?
[04:33] <jorge1966> Hola amigos, me llamo Jorge Leon de Ecuador, estoy iniciando el uso de Linux con Ubuntu, soy muy nuevo, un amigo me ayudo pero todavia tengo problemas, porque no funciona la web cam y los audifonos en la compu
[04:33] <ubunturos> backpro: also, if you are interested in just trying out KDE 4, you could perhaps try a live CD
[04:33] <jorge1966> podrian ayudarme?
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> !es
[04:33] <ubunturos> backpro: (and if you have no limitations on your download) you could download it from http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/
[04:33] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:33] <ubunturos> !sp
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <alex85> hi someone knows howto configure to start kde without inserting password in prompt like windows?
[04:34] <alex85> automatic login
[04:34] <ubunturos> alex85: see the control center
[04:34] <kkathman> ubunturos: its !es I think
[04:34] <jorge1966> ok thank you
[04:34] <ubunturos> kkathman: yes, I was trying out if "sp" stood for spanish
[04:35] <ubunturos> alex85: and get to the LOgin Manage
[04:35] <ubunturos> alex85: Login Manager*
[04:35] <mille_> what is the best open source gui anti-virus?
[04:35] <ubunturos> alex85: and under administrative mode choose the convenience section
[04:35] <ubunturos> clam?
[04:36] <alex85> 1 moment
[04:36] <ubunturos> alex85: ok
[04:36] <kkathman> mille_:  you really dont need one for linux - but I hear AVG is good for windows
[04:37] <backpro> thank you <ubunturos> you are the best
[04:37] <ubunturos> backpro: don't think I deserve it. :)
[04:42] <yaccin> what is "NetworkManagerDispatcher"?
[04:51] <ubuntu_> hello
[04:52] <ivan__> ciaux
[04:52] <ivan__> is
[04:52] <ivan__> there
[04:52] <ivan__> anyone who talk italian
[04:52] <ivan__> ?
[04:52] <ubunturos> !italian
[04:52] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:53] <ubunturos> !ask | ubuntu_
[04:53] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:53] <ivan__> thanks
[04:54] <gabby> damn, I didn't even notice I was in this room!
[04:54] <BluesKaj> gabby, neither did we :)
[04:55] <gabby> BluesKaj: funny :)
[04:55] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:56] <BluesKaj> <--- bored
[04:56] <Dr_willis> Gateways where on sale thiss weekend. :)
[04:56] <Dr_willis> this thing has a "Yukon" network card. live cd isent picking it up. Not sure what modules are for it.
[04:57] <BluesKaj> rainy and cool outside today ...stuck in the house and I'm too lazy to do any honeydoo stuff
[04:57] <Dr_willis> Googling seems to imply a 'sky2' module.
[04:57] <Dr_willis> Its cool and nice here.. and im inside cleaning.
[04:57] <Dr_willis> consolidating the fileservers to one server. :)
[04:58] <BluesKaj> Yukon netcard ...hmmm can't say I've heard of it
[04:58] <BluesKaj> wondering ....could be a realtek in disguise ?
[04:59] <jose> hola
[04:59] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, did you buy a gateway ?
[04:59] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  yep.  :) on sale.
[05:00] <BluesKaj> lappy ?
[05:00] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: hey
[05:00] <Dr_willis> $500, was $200 cheaper then a similer machine. Desktop machine.
[05:00] <BluesKaj> hi eagles0513875
[05:00] <eagles0513875> long time no c
[05:00] <Dr_willis> amdX2 6000 cpu. 3 gb ram
[05:00] <Dr_willis> Now i just need a decent video card for it. :)
[05:00] <eagles0513875> dude we just bought my dad an insane desktop
[05:00] <Dr_willis> which is as much as the whole machine.
[05:00] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, what stuff did you get with it ?
[05:01] <Dr_willis> 300gb hd, 3 gb ram, AMDx2-6000 cpu
[05:01] <Dr_willis> then they tossed in monitor, and a printer that wont work with linux. :)
[05:01] <BluesKaj> nice !
[05:01] <eagles0513875> i think i have u all beat on teh desktop front lol
[05:01] <Dr_willis> Back to School Sales.
[05:01] <eagles0513875> lol nice
[05:01] <Dr_willis> Its where i cant BUILD one cheaper then they sell them.
[05:02] <eagles0513875> lol
[05:02] <Dr_willis> but when i go to build the next pc in a year or so. i will at least have a decent video card.
[05:02] <eagles0513875> the desktop we bought quad core 2.8ghz 8mb l2 cache 600gb of space that can be raided
[05:02] <Dr_willis> I need to open it up and put in an extra hd. but waiting for my video card to arrive
[05:02] <Dr_willis> got a 8800 on order.
[05:02] <BluesKaj> 18mos ago 600bucks for amd 3200+ , 1Gram, no monitor , justKB and mouse
[05:02] <eagles0513875> 3gb of ram upgradeable to 8gb built in wifi 22inch monitor and a printer
[05:03] <eagles0513875> with windows vista  home primium wiht an nvidia 7050 le that has tv tuner capabilities
[05:03] <eagles0513875> and built in wifi
[05:03] <eagles0513875> all that this last weekend for about 1600 bucks at best buy
[05:03] <BluesKaj> goodluck with vista :)
[05:03] <Dr_willis> eagles0513875,  i saw those also.
[05:03] <eagles0513875> so far so good lol
[05:03] <eagles0513875> i love it
[05:03] <Dr_willis> So far with 3gb of ram. vista is doing ok on this box.
[05:03] <eagles0513875> i cant wait till friday when we get cable internet
[05:04] <eagles0513875> dude i beta tested vista with 1.25gb of ram and it workd like a charm for me
[05:04] <Dr_willis> now on the wifes 512mb Laptop = vista = DOG.
[05:04] <Dr_willis> but she has XP on her laptop now.
[05:04] <eagles0513875> i have duel boot on here
[05:04] <Dr_willis> I couldent justify the $1600 for that high end box.
[05:05] <Dr_willis> not when in a year. it will be down to $600 :)
[05:05] <eagles0513875> if i can get someone i met on world of war craft to get her bf to get me a cedega bye bye winblows
[05:05] <BluesKaj> yeah, i tried vista too, ran fine on my pc...just such a pita , none of my fav software works with it
[05:05] <JuJuBee> Hey all.  I think I did a stupid thing and need help to fix.  I changed a username on a computer.  How do I locate and change all files that the old user had perms on and switch to the new username?
[05:05] <Dr_willis> WoW never worked very good for me with cedega/wine.. but then again - i got sick of WoW. so i havent tried in  ages.
[05:05] <eagles0513875> this person i know she has it and it runs fine
[05:06] <Dr_willis> JuJuBee,  in 'theory' the users files should all be  in his /home/user dir.
[05:06] <eagles0513875> for me wow wont run but then again i do have a pos videocard
[05:06] <Dr_willis> Every time i used cedega/wine/wow - EVERY update to WoW broke cedega. and had to wait 2+ days for a cedega update to fix theWoW breakage.
[05:06] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:06] <bigfoot_> Salutation
[05:06] <eagles0513875> lol
[05:06] <eagles0513875> its worth the wait
[05:07] <JuJuBee> Dr_Willis : I am now unable to run my VMserver.  I changed all file perms in /var/lib/vmware/Virtual Machines to the new username and still cannot run.  THere must be others somewher else.
[05:07] <eagles0513875> i hate ati
[05:07] <Dr_willis> But i dont play MMORPGS. I dont find WoW worth ANY wait... or worth playing.
[05:07] <eagles0513875> lol
[05:07] <ks3> JuJuBee: as in, you created a second user account, or actually just renamed the user account?
[05:07] <JuJuBee> Renamed the existing account
[05:07] <Dr_willis> JuJuBee,  Hmm.. i dident think those were owned by the user, but by root.
[05:07] <ks3> JuJuBee: if you just renamed the existing account, the user id should be the same, and perms should be fine
[05:07] <JuJuBee> If I change the username back to its original, it works.
[05:08] <JuJuBee> SOmething fishy...
[05:08] <eagles0513875> the only difference between the duel core machine adn thsi high end quad core was 300 bucks
[05:08] <eagles0513875> but we cut the manager of the store a deal cuz they were out of 19 inch monitors so we paid 1450 so basically 50 bucks for the 22 inch monitor
[05:08] <Dr_willis> quad cores are just too 'new' :)  ive been burnt by such cutting edge stuff now a days..
[05:08] <Dr_willis> heh
[05:09] <Dr_willis> My Year old laptop finially runs linux good.  after a year of kernel updates, and bios updates.
[05:09] <Dr_willis> !p2p
[05:09] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[05:10] <eagles0513875> lol
[05:10] <eagles0513875> im starting to get rather pissed with gutsy atm
[05:10] <Dr_willis> wowsers.. learned to use the ssh-fuse stuff today.. its handy
[05:11] <eagles0513875> :)
[05:11] <eagles0513875> im still trying to debug a rather annoying situation with gutsy
[05:11] <Dr_willis> this is why i wait about 3 weeks  after the things are officially released.. :)
[05:12] <evri2> is there a way to use a webcam which is supported by v4l2 on kopete?
[05:12] <acidBURN> good Idea
[05:12] <nabil> hi everyone need help with intel gma
[05:13] <acidBURN> anyone know's why they choosen Strigi over other desktop indexers  :-S
[05:13] <sampan> just got back from china and finally sitting down with my desktop box ... wondering if the adept upgrader (from 6.10 -> 7.04) works well or if there's a consensus thta i should upgrade manually
[05:13] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis: lol im helping test out the 64bit release of gutsy i get the impression there rnt alot of people that test 64 bit
[05:13] <eagles0513875> sampan: u have documents on there u need
[05:13] <Dr_willis> i dont plan on using 64bit for SOME long time to come. :)
[05:13] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis: kubuntu is the best 64bit distro ive found so far
[05:13] <ubuntu> nickname
[05:13] <sampan> eagles0513875  sure, but i have everything like that backed up to an external drive
[05:14] <Dr_willis> eagles0513875,  thats like saying a RootCanal is the best tooth surgery yove tried.. :)
[05:14] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, I gave up on it due to it's ATI 3D and DRI probs
[05:14] <eagles0513875> sampan: i had some issues updating from 6.10 to 7.04 but im not sure if its fixed cuz i had a really nasty bug when i upgraded to gutsy tribe 2 ended up doing a clean install
[05:14] <eagles0513875> sampan: u wont know until u try
[05:14] <Dr_willis> all it takes is a few annoyances.. to make ya say.. heck.. back to 32bit :)
[05:15] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis: i cant go back to 32bit
[05:15] <evri2> eagles0513875: which distros did you use?
[05:15] <eagles0513875> xp x64 which is the worst suse 10
[05:15] <eagles0513875> kubuntu
[05:15] <eagles0513875> i have to say 32bit cant compare if u can take advantage of a 64bit processor y not use it the way it was meant to be used
[05:16] <BluesKaj> gutsy 64bit din't like my monitor , the drivers wouldn't run in X
[05:16] <nabil> I installed the intel driver from the repos and changed the xorg.conf accordingly but when I restarted X I finniched having giant fonts
[05:16] <acidBURN> 32bit seems to be more stable, notice from other distro...
[05:16] <acidBURN> plus plugins seem to work.....
[05:16] <evri2> well i got 64bit processor,but there are less packages in 64bit version.So i stick with 32bit for now. :p
[05:16] <eagles0513875> for me and 64 bit kubuntu is most stabl
[05:16] <acidBURN> been there done that.
[05:16] <eagles0513875> for me its running fine im tempted to try get my wifi and direct rendering to work
[05:17] <acidBURN> wifi is another can of worms
[05:17] <eagles0513875> evri2: wouldnt it be better to have it on ur machine
[05:17] <eagles0513875> acidBURN: do u have a broadcom
[05:17] <nabil> I installed the intel driver from the repos and changed the xorg.conf accordingly but when I restarted X I finniched having giant fonts
[05:17] <nabil> pliz
[05:17] <acidBURN> Yes
[05:17] <nabil> halp
[05:17] <acidBURN> but switch it out
[05:18] <acidBURN> eagles0513875: get yourself a netgear WG511t pcmcia card, works out of the box
[05:19] <eagles0513875> dude i have a pcmcia/compact flash one that works
[05:19] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, 64 bit kubuntu is ok as long as you don't have ATI onboard graphics
[05:19] <eagles0513875> lol
[05:19] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: lol well i do lol a radeon xpress200m
[05:19] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: what problems should i expect
[05:19] <BluesKaj> <----x200G
[05:20] <BluesKaj> I like my google earth, and it won't run on 64
[05:20] <eagles0513875> lol ahh i like world of warcraft it will run with wine but graphics r shit
[05:20] <eagles0513875> !language |eagles051387
[05:20] <ubotu> eagles051387: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:20] <eagles0513875> lol
[05:20] <acidBURN> eagles0513875: dude, I did get the broadcom to work, but its not as fast as my direct pcmcia card (broadcom buit-in)
[05:20] <eagles0513875> u serious
[05:20] <eagles0513875> have u seen that reversed engineered driver
[05:20] <eagles0513875> site
[05:20] <BluesKaj> bah ...wine , might as well run windows :)
[05:21] <eagles0513875> lol
[05:21] <acidBURN> no
[05:21] <eagles0513875> i can get wow to work but with really shitty frame rates
[05:21] <eagles0513875> acidBURN: let me hook u up dude
[05:21] <eagles0513875> acidBURN: what they did was took the windows drivers took em apart and re wrote the code in c++ or c not sure which one and recompiled them for linux
[05:21] <acidBURN> there still using a wrapper for broadcom right >
[05:21] <eagles0513875> nope
[05:22] <acidBURN> okay............cool then
[05:22] <acidBURN> but using the wrapper was bad
[05:22] <eagles0513875> lol i know dude
[05:22] <eagles0513875> and whats worse is for some reason for kubuntu they decided to chop it into 3 pkgs
[05:23] <eagles0513875> http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices
[05:23] <eagles0513875> acidBURN: thats the site
[05:23] <acidBURN> eagles0513875: will check it out
[05:24] <eagles0513875> make sure ur card is supported
[05:24] <acidBURN> oh, is this new driver, going to be included into gutsy ???
[05:24] <eagles0513875> i submitted it lol for consideration but i didnt hear anything from anyone
[05:24] <eagles0513875> any idea who i would have to contact
[05:25] <eagles0513875> when i can get my programming skills upt to snuff im goign to make my own linux distro
[05:25] <eagles0513875> lol
[05:26] <acidBURN> eagles0513875: Riddell would be a start, can point you in the right direction...he is on this chat
[05:27] <eagles0513875> Riddell: u there due
[05:27] <eagles0513875> *dude
[05:27] <eagles0513875> acidBURN: i dont think he is there
[05:27] <eagles0513875> should i put it on the wish list lol
[05:28] <acidBURN> he is ...talking with him
[05:28] <eagles0513875> im really having one of those off days today first thing that happens is i set off the alarm at work when i was actually thinking about the code while i was standing near my car not far form the back door
[05:29] <eagles0513875> now i have a gaming machine thats belongs at the store that is giving me ****
[05:29] <eagles0513875> ati x1950 in crossfire mode doesnt seem to like its own ati driver i keep gettin blue screen ofdeath
[05:29] <acidBURN> sounds like fun
[05:29] <acidBURN> xorg
[05:29] <eagles0513875> not really
[05:29] <eagles0513875> its got winblows on it
[05:30] <acidBURN> oh my
[05:30] <acidBURN> MR.bill
[05:30] <eagles0513875> ?
[05:31] <eagles0513875> then i have a head ache of seeting up some internet cafe like software on the serer and these machines which rnt working on and off
[05:31] <eagles0513875> and adding the games to the list
[05:31] <Riddell> eagles0513875: hmm?
[05:32] <JuJuBee> I am getting an error message with adept.  "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there wasa problem downloading some packages the commit would break".   How do I fix this?
[05:32] <eagles0513875> Riddell: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices can we get those supported drivers added to the gutsy release
[05:33] <Riddell> eagles0513875: I've no idea, you'd need to ask a linux person
[05:33] <Riddell> eagles0513875: but I think the answer is not directory, but through restricted manager yes
[05:33] <eagles0513875> Riddell: who would i have to talk to acidburn told me to talk to u
[05:33] <Riddell> eagles0513875: #ubuntu-kernel
[05:33] <eagles0513875> Riddell: ty
[05:34] <Riddell> or their mailing list if nobody is around
[05:34] <eagles0513875> it seems rather dead in there
[05:35] <rusty_> help, i cant install an hp Laserjet 1000 printer!
[05:41] <scribbles> when I turn my external hd on the window comes up asking what to do I select open in new window then nothing happens
[05:41] <scribbles> where does it mount to si can point Konqueror there
[05:43] <mahdi> what is the metapackage for mp3, mp4, m4a decoders and all that?
[05:43] <homepc> ciao
[05:43] <mahdi> scribbles: probably in /media
[05:44] <jhutchins> scribbles: You can use the command mount to see what is mounted where, but if it were mounting, it would probably be giving you a dialog box.
[05:44] <homepc> some italian here?
[05:44] <scribbles> well it did give me a dialog, but when I click Okay to open in a new window nothing happens
[05:44] <scribbles> nothing new is in /mnt
[05:44] <jhutchins> scribbles: You can look at the end of /var/log/messages or dmesg right after you turn it on.  That should tell you what's happening.
[05:44] <Jucato> mahdi: libxine-extracodecs
[05:44] <jhutchins> scribbles: It's probably formatted for windows, so stupid kubuntu is mounting it so it's only accessible by root.
[05:45] <jhutchins> !it | homepc
[05:45] <ubotu> homepc: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:45] <mahdi> Jucato: thanks
[05:45] <scribbles> so how do I get to it
[05:45] <homepc> ciao
[05:45] <scribbles> dmesg shows it mounted and reading
[05:45] <jhutchins> scribbles: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions <= that may help.
[05:45] <scribbles> doesn't hsow where it mounted
[05:45] <homepc> thanks
[05:46] <jhutchins> scribbles: mount will tell you where.
[05:46] <jhutchins> homepc: Buncha dumb monolingual americans here.
[05:46] <scribbles> ,,,/dev/disk/by-uuid/B09456269455EEFA on /media/hdb1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[05:46] <scribbles> that look like it
[05:46] <savetheWorld> jhutchins: Warum?
[05:47] <scribbles> wait thats my other windows partition
[05:47] <scribbles> not the external
[05:51] <paradise> Hi i have some problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36450/ see plz
[05:52] <Fsh> Hi i have some problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36450/ see plz
[05:54] <otalivan> hello everybody
[05:54] <Fsh> hello
[05:55] <otalivan> I need help with kubuntu and my graphics card driver
[05:55] <Fsh> can u help me ?
[05:55] <Fsh> lol
[05:55] <otalivan> No, I also need help myself
[05:55] <otalivan> I'm a beginner
[05:55] <Fsh> i dont have any adea with this point
[05:55] <Fsh> me too
[05:55] <Fsh> :\
[05:55] <otalivan> well, what is your problem? there is a very remote chance that I might be able to help you
[05:56] <otalivan> ...
[05:56] <Fsh> no body is a live now :Pp
[05:56] <Fsh> Hi i have some problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36450/ see plz
[05:57] <otalivan> hmmm
[05:57] <ks3> Fsh: looks like you'll have to uninstall gaim before installing pidgin
[05:57] <mendred> Fsh: do u have the gaim package installed? also where did u get the pidgin package from?
[05:57] <otalivan> that's "too much sand for my truck", as we say in Portugal, I really don't know how to help you
[05:57] <Fsh> yes
[05:57] <Fsh> ahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:57] <Fsh> ok ok ok
[05:57] <Fsh> ait
[05:57] <Fsh> waiy
[05:57] <Fsh> waiy
[05:57] <Fsh> wait
[05:58] <otalivan> anyway, my case is that I have installed my nvidia official graphics driver, and now it seems I get no Opengl running. Can anyone please tell me what should I do to get OpenGl running in my Kubuntu?
[05:59] <Fsh> thanks thanks thanks
[05:59] <Fsh> ;** alot
[06:00] <mendred> otalivan: can u check the output of glxinfo |grep "direct"
[06:00] <radioaktivstorm> does anyone have an idea as to why my ical calendar  on boxed would be one hour behind the time i put in using kontact?
[06:01] <mendred> otalivan can u paste the output of glxinfo in a pastebin :)
[06:02] <mendred> otalivan: also specifically when ur saying opengl isnt working..what are u trying to run? compiz?
[06:03] <otalivan> I will past the output now
[06:03] <Jucato> "glxinfo | grep direct". yes or no?
[06:04] <otalivan> well, I think it wont be necessary to use the past bin because I get "Xlib: entension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[06:04] <Jucato> otalivan: just install "nvidia-glx" (or nvidia-glx-legacy if your card is very old or nvidia-glx-new if it's very new) and "linux-restricted-modules-generic"
[06:04] <zeemon> the drivers that worked for me came from Automatix
[06:04] <Jucato> then, run "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[06:04] <otalivan> ok
[06:05] <otalivan> many thanks!! I'll try to do that
[06:05] <Jucato> otalivan: after that, log out, and press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to restart the X server. if all goes well, you should be back
[06:06] <otalivan> actually I noticed that opengl wasn't working because of the screensavers ;)
[06:07] <otalivan> I'm installing nvidia-glx right now...
[06:07] <Jucato> what video card do you have?
[06:07] <mendred> otalivan: out of curiosity whats ur video card
[06:07] <otalivan> nvidia 6600 LE
[06:07] <mendred> Jucato: doesn;t that come under legacy?
[06:08] <otalivan> well, I think it wasn't working very well
[06:08] <Jucato> hm.. I don't think so... is it older than GeForce4 MX 4000?
[06:08] <mendred> lemme check
[06:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> eww, the mx 4000 :(
[06:08] <otalivan> I just installed kubuntu a few days ago
[06:08] <mendred> nopes
[06:08] <Jucato> coz if it's newer, it's definitely not legacy :)
[06:08] <otalivan> I am veeeeryyyyy noobe
[06:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> a gf2 with a shader :\
[06:08] <Jucato> don't mock my videocard!!! :P
[06:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> but but but that's what it is!
[06:08] <Fsh> how ican remove some program with konsole ?
[06:09] <Jucato> !apt
[06:09] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:09] <mendred> Daisuke _laptop: it runs pretty well at home thank u very much :)
[06:09] <Jucato> Daisuke_Laptop: it does it's job well. I don't need too much fancy graphics (yet)
[06:09] <Fsh> thanks
[06:09] <otalivan> ok I will now try to restart the X
[06:10] <Jucato> I wonder if he remembered to install the restricted-modules...
[06:10] <mendred> Jucato: i dont think so..
[06:11] <Jucato> I would give him a D for not following instructions... but I guess that a non-working X is punishment enough :)
[06:11] <mendred> Jucato: shouldnt nvidia-glx technically have a dependency
[06:11] <mendred> on restricted moduels
[06:11] <Jucato> "should" and "does" are two different things :)
[06:11] <Jucato> anyway, that would be unnecessary in gutsy
[06:12] <mendred> Jucato: true but in his case..hes not gonna be able to log back into X...
[06:12] <Jucato> sigh...
[06:12] <Jucato> true that..
[06:12] <Jucato> if only he followed instructions :)
[06:13] <zeemon> :s
[06:13] <eagles0513875> anyone have any c++ compilers that u recommend
[06:13] <mendred> Jucato: give him a break, hes a enthu newbie
[06:13] <TunaTom> gcc
[06:13] <mendred> they all make mistakes..
[06:13] <Jucato> eagles0513875: gcc :)
[06:14] <Jucato> mendred: I know :)
[06:14] <eagles0513875> Jucato: i tried installing that yesterday
[06:14] <Jucato> and?
[06:14] <eagles0513875> but for some reason it wants me to manually install
[06:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> Jucato: i never said there was anything wrong with it, i own one :)
[06:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> well, i did say eww
[06:14] <Jucato> hehe
[06:14] <eagles0513875> Jucato: it wants me to manually install
[06:14] <Jucato> yeah, "ewww" conveys it all
[06:14] <Jucato> eagles0513875: manually install what?
[06:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm using integrated intel graphics, i have no room to talk :D
[06:14] <mendred> come now gentleman..the 4000 is a very respectable card..
[06:14] <Jucato> Daisuke_Laptop: IGP! eeewwww!!!
[06:14] <mendred> *gentlemen
[06:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> Jucato: i agree wholeheartedly and would like to subscribe to your newsletter :P
[06:15] <Jucato> mendred: gentleman was correct. Daisuke_Laptop is the only one complaining :)
[06:15] <mendred> he shouldn't
[06:15] <Jucato> mendred: I think he only meant that in jest :)
[06:15] <mendred> intel integrated graphics *shudder*
[06:15] <fixit> Hello guys, i have a problem i can't find a way to fixit can someone help me ?
[06:16] <TunaTom> fixit; yes
[06:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> mendred: just having a little fun, jucato knows i'm not usually actually mean
[06:16] <fixit> this is related to apt-get
[06:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> !apt-fix
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-fix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <otalivan> hi again
[06:16] <mendred> there used to be these omega drivers for nvidia..used to get a lot of extra oomph out of the card
[06:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> !aptfix
[06:16] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:16] <Jucato> otalivan: how did it go?
[06:16] <otalivan> I got some problems
[06:16] <mendred> otalivan: did u install restricted drivers
[06:16] <Jucato> otalivan: did you remember to install linux-restricted-modules-generic?
[06:16] <otalivan> I installed the nvidia official driver for 6000 series
[06:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> mendred: i used those and they were pretty nice.  i was able to play some games on the 4000 that i wasn't able to play before :D
[06:16] <eagles0513875> Jucato: manually install gcc
[06:16] <fixit> TunaTom: E: Le paquet hl1430lpr need to be reinstalled, but i can't find it's archive
[06:17] <otalivan> but now, after I installed the nvidia-glx
[06:17] <fixit> this is a printer driver
[06:17] <Jucato> aaah it's conflicting...
[06:17] <otalivan> i run the "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[06:17] <mendred> Daisuke_Laptop: yeah KOTR could run at full settings on that :)
[06:17] <fixit> anything i am trying to install with apt-get after is not working
[06:17] <Jucato> eagles0513875: who/what is making/forcing/telling you to manually install gcc?
[06:17] <Jucato> eagles0513875: btw you might want to install build-essential to get the whole package
[06:18] <eagles0513875> it says build essential is the newest pkg
[06:18] <otalivan> then the nvidia-xconfig installer changed my "xorg.conf" file, and after restarting the X the video mode was not supported by my screen, so I had to manually replace the xorg,conf with the xorg.conf.back
[06:18] <Jucato> eagles0513875: hm.. ok.. so what/who is telling you to manually install gcc?
[06:19] <Jucato> mendred: see? not too newbie :)
[06:19] <eagles0513875> im running sudo apt-get install gcc in cli
[06:19] <Jucato> otalivan: did you remember to install linux-restricted-modules-generic?
[06:19] <Jucato> eagles0513875: er.. no need. if you installed build-essential already
[06:19] <TunaTom> fixit: how do you know the packaet's name is hl1430lpr ?
[06:19] <otalivan> that was already installed
[06:19] <eagles0513875> ahhh ok
[06:19] <mendred> Jucato: t'was not what he claimed, i was mislead :)
[06:19] <eagles0513875> Jucato: is gcc an ide
[06:19] <fixit> TunaTom apt-get check
[06:19] <Jucato> eagles0513875: no.
[06:19] <eagles0513875> Jucato: what u recommend for an ide
[06:19] <Jucato> eagles0513875: it's a compiler
[06:19] <Jucato> depends. what do you need?
[06:19] <otalivan> and now I type "glxinfo | grep direct" and I still get Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on displaty
[06:20] <fixit> TunaTom: each time i am trying to install new packages it is saying that hl1430lpr is missing
[06:20] <Jucato> otalivan: I think the nvidia.com driver is probably conflicting with the ubuntu one... but my knowledge ends there. :(
[06:20] <mendred> otalivan: ok we need to do a little hand tuning..if u have the patience
[06:20] <Jucato> otalivan: sure you have restricted-modules-generic installed? (not restricted-headersor such)
[06:20] <Jucato> linux-restricted-modules-generic
[06:21] <mendred> first before i do that Jucato: is there a quick fix?
[06:21] <otalivan> yeah, pretty sure I have that installed
[06:21] <eagles0513875> anyone know of any good c++ ide's
[06:21] <Jucato> mendred: not really sure. I forgot how to resolve that kind of conflict between drivers
[06:22] <Jucato> eagles0513875: C++? KDevelop, Anjuta
[06:22] <TunaTom> fixit: Check if this helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-340848.html
[06:22] <mendred> hmmm
[06:22] <eagles0513875> ty
[06:22] <Jucato> eagles0513875: or Kate if you want a simpler one :)
[06:22] <mendred> otalivan: firstly whats the monitor ur using? LCD?
[06:22] <mendred> and if so whats the native resolution
[06:22] <eagles0513875> i dont lol im teaching myself c++ i need an ide lol
[06:23] <otalivan> it's a 19" widescreen TFT
[06:23] <dwidmann> eagles0513875: I'd think the other way around really. If you're teaching yourself c++ I think you need a simple editor :P
[06:23] <otalivan> it works on 1440x900 @ 60Hz, I had to manually change the xorg.conf file
[06:23] <Kr4t05> Okay.
[06:24] <Kr4t05> I just bought a Belkin USB Wireless Adapter, let's see if I can get utterly PO'ed at it.
[06:24] <Jucato> eagles0513875: most beginner C++ stuff don't even need an IDE...
[06:24] <Jucato> text editor + compiler is usually the way to start.
[06:24] <Jucato> of course, your own  style will guide you :)
[06:25] <mendred> ah ok.. otalivan: u would have changed the modes in the screen section right in ur original xorg.conf?
[06:26] <otalivan> this is my xorg.conf file, after the modifications: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36454/
[06:26] <eagles0513875> Jucato: the book im using recommends learning on an ide
[06:26] <otalivan> I just added "
[06:26] <otalivan> 	HorizSync	30-81
[06:26] <otalivan> 	VertRefresh	50-60
[06:26] <fixit> TunaTom: worked ! Thanks ! Now i need to be sure the printer is still working :)
[06:26] <mendred> otalivan: checking..this is the one nvidia generated or ur original
[06:26] <milian> ein supergelauntes "Hallo" in die Runde werf :)
[06:26] <Jucato> !de | milian
[06:26] <ubotu> milian: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:27] <milian> Jucato: sry, just a hallo via /amsg... ;-)
[06:27] <dwidmann> Probably a book from a windows mentality that won't really use anything more than breakpoints and a couple of its friends ...
[06:28] <Jucato> milian: yeah, and in English channels, too... :/
[06:28] <mendred> Otalivan: u might want to correct the modes for the other depths: they read 1440x1440 they should be 1440x900
[06:28] <mendred> anyway
[06:28] <milian> Jucato: I wont do it again, I promise :)
[06:28] <mendred> this seems to be the old one..
[06:28] <mendred> its using the nv driver
[06:28] <otalivan> yes, but I always use the depth 24, but I will change that anyway
[06:28] <mendred> can u paste the xorg.conf
[06:28] <mendred> generated
[06:28] <mendred> by the nvidia tool
[06:28] <otalivan> hmmm
[06:28] <mendred> i am guessing u might need
[06:28] <mendred> to make similar mods
[06:28] <mendred> there
[06:29] <otalivan> ok I will do that but it will take a few minutes
[06:29] <mendred> sure np
[06:29] <otalivan> be right back, thanks for the help!!
[06:29] <TunaTom> milian: Schnes hallo zurck.
[06:31] <otalivan> ok, here it is...
[06:31] <otalivan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36455/
[06:33] <mendred> checking
[06:33] <BluesKaj> !de | TunaTom
[06:33] <ubotu> TunaTom: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:34] <mendred> otalivan: hmmm i find nothing wrong..its almost identical..even the modes mistake is there.. :)
[06:35] <mendred> the nvidia driver is being used thats all
[06:35] <otalivan> yeah, I noticed it ;)
[06:35] <mendred> can u do one thing..
[06:35] <mendred> start X with the new xorg
[06:35] <mendred> and paste
[06:35] <mendred> the contents
[06:36] <mendred> grrr
[06:36] <mendred> I mean "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[06:36] <otalivan> well, I've tried 30 minutes ago to start X with the new xorg, and my screen did not support the new xorg, don't know why... had to go to a console and replace the nvidia-generated-xorg with the old-xorg
[06:36] <mendred> after X crashes
[06:36] <otalivan> ok
[06:36] <mendred> that should give us some idea of whats happening
[06:37] <otalivan> maybe the info will already be there, since I have already tried to start X with this xorg.conf, right?
[06:37] <mendred> hmmm it would be Xorg.1.conf i think
[06:37] <mendred> the zero would always have the latest
[06:37] <otalivan> ok, I will look it out
[06:37] <mendred> check that file and see if its using nvidia driver
[06:38] <mendred> thats the clue
[06:38] <mendred> right now ur using nv
[06:39] <otalivan> I have a Xorg.0.log and a Xorg.9.log files
[06:39] <mendred> hmmm
[06:39] <mendred> can u look through Xorg.9.log
[06:39] <mendred> and search for nvidia
[06:40] <mendred> i think it will be something like LoadModule: nvidia
[06:40] <otalivan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36456/
[06:41] <elzbal> you may also be able to run the nvidia-glx-config command to set up the nvidia drivers automatically.
[06:42] <mendred> otalivan: its loadin the nv module
[06:42] <mendred> so its not the xorg for the crash
[06:42] <mendred> its a nice sane log :)
[06:43] <otalivan> well, I don't think it actually "crashes", it runs well I think, my pc continues to run
[06:43] <mendred> i mean X crashes and dumps u back on the console correct :)
[06:43] <otalivan> the problem is that my screen doesn't display any of it because it doesn't support the video mode
[06:44] <otalivan> no, that's not what happens
[06:44] <mendred> otalivan: oh
[06:44] <mendred> thats a different issue then..
[06:44] <mendred> black screen when using nvidia driver
[06:44] <mendred> one sec
[06:45] <otalivan> yes, well by the way, I think this info might help:
[06:45] <otalivan> I never get the "x loading screen"
[06:46] <mendred> confound it
[06:46] <otalivan> when you start running x, you get a screen that says something like "kubuntu", right?
[06:46] <mendred> nvidia-glx-legacy = 1.0-71xx driver
[06:46] <otalivan> I don't get it because my screen doesn't support its sceen resolution
[06:46] <mendred> otalivan: apt-gt remove nvidia-glx
[06:46] <otalivan> oh
[06:46] <mendred> otalvan
[06:46] <otalivan> ok
[06:47] <mendred> install the legacy drivr
[06:47] <mendred> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=410708
[06:47] <mendred> thats the thread
[06:49] <mendred> one sec otalivan: 6200 right?
[06:49] <chewey> I have some trouble with the automounter on Feisty: Every time I put a DVD in the drive, the popup message asks what to do with an "unmounted DVD".
[06:50] <otalivan> nope, 6600
[06:50] <chewey> apparently, I'm affected by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/95868 , but updating hal from backports didn't help.
[06:50] <chewey> any ideas where I can kick to make it work?
[06:50] <chewey>  mounting by hand wokrs BTW, but only if I give the mount destination in the comman line - although the drive is correctly entered in fstab.
[06:51] <mendred> otalivan: its listed in the legacy drivers
[06:51] <mendred> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7185.html
[06:51] <mendred> click on the README
[06:51] <otalivan> ok I have just installed the legacy drivers
[06:51] <JuJuBee> I have a box that is giving an error on commiting changes in adept.  It seems that the changes are taking place, but I get an error every time.  How can I fix this?
[06:51] <mendred> alright use the nvidia generated xorg
[06:51] <mendred> no wait
[06:51] <mendred> generate it again :)
[06:52] <mendred> just to be on the safer side
[06:52] <mendred> and then check
[06:52] <mendred> good luck
[06:53] <otalivan> well, my card is 6600 LE, but it will work the same as 6600, right?0'
[06:53] <mendred> otalivan: yep shouldnt be a problem
[06:53] <otalivan> ok, thank you very much!
[06:53] <mendred> otalivan: hopefully keep ur fingers crossed
[06:53] <otalivan> yeah ;)
[06:53] <otalivan> see you, and thanks!
[06:54] <JacksLivr> for the love of god and money, please help me. All i want to do is be able to console into a router with my serial port on my PC. Every road i have gone down leads to fervent flames. will anyone just point in a direction?
[06:54] <otalivan> strange
[06:55] <otalivan> I type "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and I get "command not found"
[06:55] <mendred> otalivan: ?
[06:55] <mendred> ok i am guessing the legacy drivers
[06:55] <otalivan> this didn't happen before, and I have the legacy drivers installed...
[06:55] <mendred> dont have a config
[06:55] <otalivan> yeah that must be it
[06:55] <otalivan> so I should just restart, right?
[06:55] <mendred> easiest tjhing
[06:55] <mendred> just change
[06:55] <mendred> the nv
[06:55] <llutz> JacksLivr: did you try minicom?
[06:55] <mendred> to nvidia
[06:55] <otalivan> ok
[06:55] <mendred> in ur xorg.conf
[06:55] <mendred> was there any other changes in the generated xorg?
[06:56] <mendred> lemme check
[06:56] <mendred> and while ur at it do correct the modes :)
[06:56] <otalivan> by the way, when I want to edit xorg.conf I have to write it on a different file, and then "sudo cp other.file xorg.conf"
[06:56] <otalivan> how can I edit xorg.conf directly?
[06:56] <llutz> otalivan: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:57] <otalivan> nano... ok thanks
[06:57] <mendred> otalivan: i suggest u use the new xorg.conf
[06:57] <mendred> otalivan there are some differences
[06:57] <mendred> klike the bus id being removed
[06:57] <JacksLivr> llutz: not yet. i will try that now
[06:57] <otalivan> ok, so I should use the nvidia-generated xorg?
[06:58] <mendred> yes pls
[06:58] <otalivan> ok
[06:58] <mendred> dri module also shouldnot be loaded
[06:58] <mendred> with nvidia drivers
[06:58] <otalivan> hmmm
[06:59] <mendred> the new one takes care of that
[06:59] <mendred> so yeah the new one is probably a better bet
[06:59] <otalivan> sorry for being "graphical-environmental-addicted", but is there another way to edit xorg.conf directly with other program than "nano"?
[06:59] <mendred> otalivan: Alt-f2 kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:59] <mendred> that better? :)
[07:00] <elzbal> nano is one of the easiest editors for command-line usage.
[07:00] <mendred> ur in kde i assume :)
[07:00] <llutz> elzbal: not easy enough ...
[07:00] <elzbal> If in KDE, Kate is pretty good....
[07:00] <mendred> elzbal: personally i think vi is as easy as it gets.. but its personal pref :)
[07:01] <elzbal> That's my preference too. All I use from the command line is vi.  :)
[07:01] <elzbal> But I wouldn't force it on anyone else. :)
[07:01] <RurouniJones> ...
[07:02] <RurouniJones> Damnit, where is the emacs zealot! ;)
[07:02] <mendred> RurouniJones: yeah just like old times an editor flamewar :)
[07:02] <RurouniJones> and elzbal, stop being so damn sane! Psyche yourself up while I find an Emacs lunatic
[07:02] <RurouniJones> Everyone else: Grab popcorn
[07:03] <elzbal> Heh, I'd tell the emacs zealot to be happy using emacs. I'm too easy-going for a flame war.  :)
[07:03] <mendred> otalivan: ignore us..is it working?
[07:03] <RurouniJones> Aw :(
[07:04] <elzbal> Ruro: And in the meantime, nano is a great editor for someone who doesn't want to burden themselves with vi or emacs.
[07:04] <RurouniJones> There you go being all logical again, STOP IT MAN!
[07:04] <elzbal> (My first unix editor was pico, so it brings back memories. :)
[07:06] <otalivan> hi again!
[07:07] <stefan__> hi
[07:07] <otalivan> this time the nvidia-generated xorg.conf worked
[07:07] <otalivan> and I corrected the 1440x1440 to 1440x900
[07:08] <mendred> otalivan: cheers
[07:08] <otalivan> :)
[07:08] <mendred> now wait till i get my hands on Jucato :)
[07:08] <otalivan> but I don't think openGl is working yet!!
[07:08] <otalivan> :(
[07:08] <mendred> wait wait wait
[07:08] <mendred> one thing at a time
[07:09] <otalivan> ok!
[07:09] <mendred> otalivan: check glxinfo | grep direct
[07:09] <mendred> what does it say now
[07:09] <mendred> otalivan: to be safe u are using the nvidia driver right ? :)
[07:10] <mendred> otalivan: check ur Xorg.0.log to be sure
[07:10] <mendred> did u get the nvidia logo
[07:10] <mendred> on x start up?
[07:10] <otalivan> just did, I get lots of lines, all of them saying "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0" "
[07:10] <mendred> grrr
[07:10] <otalivan> actually I got no logo, it jumped right to the x login screen
[07:11] <Dr_willis> talking about the Nvida logo?
[07:11] <Dr_willis> ive seen it flash up and close so fast you may not notice it. depending on the monitor.
[07:11] <elzbal> There's also a setting to turn it off. So I wouldn't rely on that.
[07:11] <elzbal> try this at a command line:     "glxinfo | grep glx"
[07:12] <Dr_willis> Yep. Not sure why people seem to HATE it so much. :) i like seeing it.. remindes me that i do have the nvidia stuff set right.
[07:12] <elzbal> see what the vendor string says.
[07:13] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. some how on this box i dont have the nvidia driver set up Yet. :) On my TODoList
[07:13] <mendred> otalivan:ur using the nvidia driver xorg.conf right?
[07:13] <mendred> with Driver "nvidia"
[07:13] <mendred> in Section "Device"
[07:14] <Dr_willis> grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf           To see what Driver you are using.
[07:14] <otalivan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36458/
[07:14] <otalivan> yeah
[07:15] <otalivan> I using the xorg.conf I pasted a little ago, the one modified by the nvidia config
[07:15] <mendred> otalivan: ok can u paste the Xorg.0.log in pastebin?
[07:16] <otalivan> ok... going...
[07:17] <otalivan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36459/
[07:17] <otalivan> there seems to be a lot of error messages
[07:17] <mendred> checking
[07:17] <Jucato> mendred: just try :P
[07:18] <nadrosima> u have original driver  dont touch any config
[07:18] <otalivan> then again, only a few at the end
[07:18] <nadrosima> install beryl and use
[07:19] <mendred> otalivan: i think i see the problem
[07:19] <mendred> Jucato: AIGLX doesn't work with the legacy drivers?
[07:20] <Jucato> nvidia-glx-legacy? I don't know. probably not
[07:21] <mendred> no thats not the problem..he hasnt enabled the composite extension in his X
[07:21] <mendred> xorg.conf
[07:21] <mendred> (EE) GLX is not supported with the Composite extension
[07:21] <Dr_willis> !flash
[07:21] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:21] <mendred> i think thats the issue
[07:22] <mendred> and ah
[07:22] <Jucato> mendred: I don't think nvidia supports AIGLX. I think it's XGL
[07:22] <mendred> II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
[07:22] <mendred> yeah swat i figured
[07:22] <DaSkreech> !schedule
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[07:22] <mendred> i am guessing that his problem is AIGLX is trying to get initialised with a legacy druiver
[07:22] <DaSkreech> !gutsy
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[07:22] <mendred> whereas he needs to use an XGL server
[07:23] <mendred> with the legacy driver
[07:25] <otalivan> so, I should install xgl?
[07:25] <mendred> otalivan: are u using compiz?
[07:25] <mendred> or plan to
[07:26] <mendred> otalivan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36460/
[07:26] <otalivan> compiz?? hmmm, this probably is a stupid question, but... what the hell is that?
[07:26] <hak5fan> How can I set up sound so I can hear the sound from multiple appz at once.... I have  a sound blaster USB live card
[07:26] <mendred> otalivan: ok a small test
[07:26] <mendred> otalivan: add those lines to the end of ur Xorg.conf
[07:26] <mendred> and then restart X and then check if
[07:26] <mendred> gl works
[07:26] <otalivan> ok
[07:28] <otalivan> hmmm what was it again I had to type before "kate" in order to change xorg.conf??
[07:28] <Sanne> otalivan: kdesu
[07:28] <otalivan> ohh thanks!
[07:28] <Sanne> yw :)
[07:29] <tstaub> Hi.
[07:31] <tstaub> Where are all the users? Isn't anybody talking?
[07:31] <ch40s> NO
[07:31] <dwidmann> [insert convesation here] 
[07:31] <ch40s> shhhhhhhhhh
[07:31] <ch40s> its nap time
[07:31] <Dr_willis> ZZZzzz...
[07:31] <dwidmann> *r
[07:32] <dwidmann> great, now I'm wanting to take a(nother) nap too.
[07:33] <tstaub> Can anybody tell me which software to use to cut dvb movies?
[07:36] <Dr_willis> *burp*
[07:36] <otalivan> hi... it didn't work, X didn't start after the "composite false" adding to xorg.conf
[07:37] <mendred> otalivan: ok ditch that..
[07:37] <otalivan> I can show you the log file if you want to
[07:37] <mendred> otalivan: no i dont think u really wanna do that :)
[07:37] <mendred> otalivan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxzv_d4Db-8
[07:37] <mendred> otalivan: thats a demo of compiz fusion..and yes u will need xgl with ur nvidia-legacy driver
[07:38] <mendred> otalivan
[07:38] <mendred> :
[07:38] <mendred> oops
[07:38] <otalivan> ok
[07:38] <mendred> otalivan: #compiz-fusion channel is where u need to check if u need info on installing it.
[07:39] <otalivan> ok, thanks!
[07:40] <Braders> Hello everyone!!  I have Compiz-Fusion installed now ;-) but only prob i got it everytime i reboot the system or shutdown etc! when i get back into ubunto the compiz-fusion is running i have to do ALT+F2 and enter compiz --replace
[07:41] <genii> You'd almost think there wasn't a #compiz-fusion channel
[07:41] <Braders> lol chance i got
[07:41] <mendred> Braders: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3163821&postcount=8
[07:42] <mendred> there is a fusion tray icon
[07:42] <mendred> when u run it it gets stored in ur sessions
[07:42] <mendred> so the next time u start
[07:42] <mendred> it starts compiz for u
[07:42] <Braders> ok thanks for your help
[07:43] <mendred> genii: to be sure, though the package is ubuntu specific :)
[07:43] <goro> hi.. i search the italian chat of kubuntu fetsy fawn.. can you help me?
[07:43] <Braders> Mendred: can you run me through how to install a .deb file i am new to this
[07:44] <mendred> pop into a console and do :  sudo dpkg -i <package name>
[07:44] <Dr_willis> Its best to use the package manager, and isntall stuff from the repos.. not 'download deb's and install them' :)
[07:44] <mendred> to be sure yes..listen to Dr_Willis :)
[07:45] <mendred> though i am not sure if its is in the repos
[07:45] <mendred> lemme chekc
[07:45] <Braders> Cool!! where do i get the repos from?
[07:45] <Dr_willis> I aint touching the fancy  3d stuff for another year. :)
[07:45] <Dr_willis> Braders,  this is when reading the ubuntu/kubuntu beginner guides.. comes in handy. :)
[07:45] <Dr_willis> !repos
[07:45] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:45] <mendred> Dr_willis : its pretty stable on gutsy...can't live without expo/scale functions :)
[07:46] <Dr_willis> mendred,  i doubt if my X200M based laptop can handle it anyway. :)
[07:46] <mendred> hehe
[07:46] <mendred> guess whats mine :)
[07:46] <mendred> IGP340
[07:46] <mendred> Ati
[07:46] <mendred> its a 4 year old compag
[07:46] <mendred> compaq
[07:46] <Dr_willis> Ick.
[07:46] <mendred> on its last legs
[07:46] <Dr_willis> and the fancy eye candy stuff works on that?
[07:46] <mendred> but the open source radoen driver
[07:46] <mendred> works like a charm
[07:46] <mendred> yes sirree
[07:46] <Dr_willis> thats scary. :)
[07:47] <mendred> 512 mb ram
[07:47] <mendred> not any fancy 2 gb
[07:47] <Dr_willis> Makes vista look bad. :)
[07:47] <mendred> well i had to reallly tweak my xorg
[07:47] <mendred> but in the end worth
[07:47] <mendred> it
[07:48] <sdlnxgk> anyone  having USB issues??
[07:48] <sdlnxgk> my digi camera will not mount anymore
[07:48] <sdlnxgk> but if I take out memory card it mounts just fine
[07:49] <mendred> sdlnxgk: doesnt sound like an usb issue
[07:49] <mendred> sdlnxgk: is ur memory card
[07:49] <mendred> working fine?
[07:49] <mendred> i am guessing the camera has some internal mem + supplemented by memory card?
[07:50] <mendred> if u are able to mount it without a card
[07:50] <sdlnxgk> mendred, memory card is working great and works fine in card reader but when used in  usb reader will not bring up browser :(
[07:50] <SoulChild> Okay,... i just compiled my first kernel but i get this error: "init: unable to open control socket: Adress family not supported" any ideas ???
[07:50] <mendred> ah
[07:50] <mendred> sorry
[07:50] <mendred> misunderstood
[07:50] <sdlnxgk> mendred,  was working fine then just stopped about a week ago
[07:50] <ks3> SoulChild: you've left out something important, like unix sockets
[07:51] <mendred> sdlnxgk: feisty or gutsy?
[07:51] <SoulChild> ks3: where to find ???
[07:51] <ks3> it's a config option in the kernel configuration
[07:51] <sdlnxgk> mendred, feisty
[07:51] <ks3> don't recall exactly where... :(
[07:51] <SoulChild> ks3: i know but where can i find it ,...
[07:51] <ks3> haven't compiled my own kernel for ages
[07:52] <mendred> sdlnxgk: can u do onething..pop in ur card into the usb reader and in a console enter dmesg |tail
[07:52] <mendred> and paste the output in a pastebin
[07:53] <backpro> hello i wanna install source packages when i configure the package(./configure) its write to me - configure: error: libz is needed
[07:53] <backpro> what configure: error: libz is needed mean
[07:53] <backpro> >???
[07:53] <Dr_willis> backpro,  install the libz and libz development packages.
[07:53] <Dr_willis> !find libz
[07:53] <ubotu> Found: libruby1.8, libzephyr-dev, libzephyr3, zlib1g, zlib1g-dev (and 30 others)
[07:54] <Dr_willis> of course WHICH one it is.. is the question. :)
[07:54] <sdlnxgk> mendred, what should I be looking for got some stuff that came up in console
[07:54] <elzbal> zlib would be my vote...
[07:54] <mendred> sdlnxgk: select the stuff and copy it
[07:55] <mendred> and paste it in a pastebin
[07:55] <sdlnxgk> you want it here?
[07:55] <mendred> !pastebin
[07:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:55] <sdlnxgk> ahh ok ;)
[07:55] <sdlnxgk> thanks
[07:55] <mendred> wc :)
[07:55] <backpro> no package name libz !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:56] <sdlnxgk> mendred, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36464/
[07:56] <ks3> how about zlib1g-dev?
[07:56] <elzbal> well, a few zlib* things came up in the search... it's probably one of those... (not too helpful, I know)
[07:56] <Dr_willis> backpro,  sounds like the progrm uses some librarys thats not in the repos then. will have to track down libz and install it from source.
[07:57] <Dr_willis> Now ya know why the package management system is prefere4d to 'source;
[07:59] <mendred> sdlnxgk: well ur device is getting recognised
[07:59] <mendred> just not mounted
[07:59] <mendred> hmmm
[07:59] <mendred> open konqueror
[08:00] <mendred> and enter media:/sdd1
[08:00] <dwidmann> ks3: yeah, tha'ts the right one, I was about to say
[08:00] <mendred> in the address bar
[08:00] <ks3> dwidmann: great
[08:01] <sdlnxgk> mendred, OK
[08:02] <sdlnxgk> mendred,  why i'm trying that look at this tried it with the memory card in the usb reader http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36465/
[08:02] <deviance> MY PC WORKS YAY
[08:02] <mendred> sdlnxgk: tell me something doesnt the icon for the device appear on the desktop when u plug it in?
[08:02] <mendred> zwounds
[08:03] <mendred> what log is this now :)
[08:03] <mendred> it seems to have entered sde1 instead
[08:03] <sdlnxgk> mendred, it used to but now only will show the icon for the card reader not using the usb slow to read the media card :(
[08:03] <mendred> media:/sde1
[08:03] <mendred> yeah sounds familiar
[08:04] <sdlnxgk> mendred, tried both says access denied :(
[08:04] <mendred> unfortunately am on gutsy now..so cant validate the hunch..
[08:04] <sdlnxgk> mendred,  I mean permission denied
[08:04] <sdlnxgk> something changed when I did updates i'm sure
[08:04] <sdlnxgk> but looks as if i'ts permission driven problem
[08:05] <mendred> wait...joggin my brain :)
[08:05] <mendred> yeah theres a group
[08:05] <mendred> one sec
[08:05] <deviance> Whats the console command to see what version I am running?
[08:05] <deviance> I haven't been on this HD is sooo long
[08:06] <stdin> !version | deviance
[08:06] <ubotu> deviance: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[08:06] <mendred> sdlnxgk: is ur user part of the plugdev group?
[08:06] <mendred> just check that
[08:06] <sdlnxgk> mendred, checking
[08:07] <sdlnxgk> mendred, yes i'm a member of that group
[08:07] <backpro_> i find this package her name is zlib
[08:07] <mendred> strange...
[08:07] <backpro_> but i dont know why in konsole her name is kibz
[08:08] <mendred> sdlnxgk: suggest u file a bug then...
[08:08] <mendred> sdlnxgk: something broke with the updates
[08:09] <deviance> Guys, I'm running 6.06
[08:09] <mendred> in the mean time if u really need to mount it as usb..u can do it with sudo..
[08:09] <deviance> Should I reinstall to 7.04
[08:09] <sdlnxgk> mendred,  thanks for your help !! will go file a bug report right now..
[08:10] <sdlnxgk> mendred, not sure if it lets me do it as root either :(
[08:10] <mendred> sdlnxgk: we can check... just create a folder xyz in ur home dir do a sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sde1 ~/xyz
[08:10] <sdlnxgk> mendred,  I take back my previous statment
[08:10] <mendred> assuming its a fat32 partition
[08:11] <mendred> ok so it does?
[08:11] <sdlnxgk> mendred,  mounts  fine as sudo
[08:11] <mendred> yeah thought so..
[08:11] <mendred> wierd
[08:11] <sdlnxgk> could I add myself to the group root?
[08:11] <mendred> someone has disabled user mountable pluggable devices
[08:11] <mendred> then..
[08:11] <mendred> nonono
[08:11] <mendred> never do that
[08:12] <sdlnxgk> I know it's dangerous
[08:12] <mendred> thats just asking for trouble :)
[08:12] <sdlnxgk> how can I enable my user again for mountable plugin devices?
[08:12] <sdlnxgk> trouble is my middle name
[08:12] <mendred> lemme just check the groups..
[08:12] <sdlnxgk> oh wait that is at work :D
[08:12] <MarcC> is there a program that will tell me which software is blocking my sound card?
[08:13] <sdlnxgk> I thought there was a usb group could be wrong
[08:14] <mendred> sdlnxgk: i am not on fiesty so not sure..i was under the impression plugdev took care of that..
[08:14] <mendred> btw are u able to mount a usb pen drive automatically?
[08:15] <mendred> oh wait heres an idea
[08:15] <mendred> mount using sudo
[08:15] <mendred> then when the icon appears on the desktop
[08:15] <mendred> right click properties>mounting
[08:15] <sdlnxgk> mendred, don't have a pen drive just  a memory card  with usb reader but should be the same thing
[08:15] <mendred> tab
[08:16] <sdlnxgk> that is what I just did
[08:16] <mendred> is there a mount as user  option?
[08:16] <mendred> its there on gutsy
[08:16] <mendred> not sure if fiesty has it
[08:16] <sdlnxgk> yes the mount as user option is checked
[08:16] <mendred> huh?
[08:16] <mendred> then its a big
[08:16] <mendred> bug
[08:16] <mendred> i mena
[08:16] <evri2> How can stop my gpu from lowering its GPU speed?
[08:17] <mendred> u can just try unchecking it
[08:17] <mendred> clicking ok
[08:17] <mendred> then opening it agian and checking it
[08:17] <mendred> and see if it works
[08:17] <mendred> but i ahve no hopes of that :(
[08:17] <sdlnxgk> I just saw a check mark box says mount automatically
[08:18] <mendred> yeah thats another option too
[08:18] <mendred> ok same as gutsy then..
[08:19] <sdlnxgk> but when I choose that option to mount auto it says: mountpoint: has to be below /media what  does that mean??
[08:20] <mendred> ok there is a folder called media
[08:20] <mendred> so by default all the drives get mounted there
[08:20] <mendred> for eg.
[08:20] <mendred> my usb hdd
[08:20] <mendred> gets mounted as /media/PERSONAL
[08:20] <mendred> fiesty takes the volume name
[08:20] <mendred> and automatically creates a folder there
[08:20] <mendred> wait
[08:21] <mendred> a minute
[08:21] <mendred> dont tell me
[08:21] <mendred> no forget it
[08:21] <mendred> file it as a bug...i have a feeling more ppl would have faced this issue as well..
[08:22] <mendred> *yawn* ok gotta crash...night ppl..
[08:23] <sdlnxgk> mendred,  Thanks for you help... will  go file a bug report now
[08:23] <sdlnxgk> night mendred
[08:23] <mendred> sdlnxgk : i dont think i was all that helpful..but good luck..hope ur issue gets fixed
[08:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah, i forgot the best part about using a new ubuntu release :D
[08:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> dozens of updates daily :)
[08:29] <alejandro_> why kubuntu dont catch my usb portable hard disk?
[08:30] <_4strO> is your ubuntu catch other usb devices?
[08:30] <_4strO> (i think so)
[08:30] <LogicalDash> I'm trying to setup Kate so I can push F5 and have it execute the Python script I'm working on. How do I set up an external tool for this? If I use "konsole -e 'python ./%filename'", it gives me something called a PTY error.
[08:31] <alejandro_> yes
[08:31] <alejandro_> it catches my pendrive
[08:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> hi ho, hi ho, it's off to work i go...
[08:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> have fun everyone
[08:32] <alejandro_> are you here _4strO ?
[08:33] <deviance> Hello, I just went on my new Kubuntu pc and even though its running on a Intel Core 2 duo E6420, it seems pretty slow. I'm running an old 120gb hard drive with Kubuntu 6.06 on it, is there any chance its running at the speed that it used when it was in my old machine?
[08:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> uh, no?  the processor isn't in the hard drive.
[08:33] <_4strO> alejandro_: if you type : lsusb -v in a terminal, didi you see it ?
[08:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> you would be better served installing fresh on the new pc
[08:34] <deviance> I am at the moment
[08:34] <deviance> 7.04 is installing
[08:34] <deviance> Is using envy reccomeneded for installing graphics drivers? I have a ASUS nVidia 7300gs
[08:35] <alejandro_> mmm _4strO No i isnt there
[08:35] <alejandro_> mmm _4strO No i isnt thereit isnt there
[08:35] <alejandro_> it isnt there, sorry
[08:35] <_4strO> alejandro_: no pb
[08:36] <alejandro_> anyone have some kindom of problem like this?
[08:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> no, envy isn't recommended
[08:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> nor is it supported
[08:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> nvidia-glx is the package you're going to need
[08:38] <alejandro_> yes
[08:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> and the best part is in 7.04 it's available outright because universe is enabled by default.
[08:38] <alejandro_> intall nvidia driver it s easy in this distro
[08:38] <alejandro_> ubuntu
[08:38] <sdlnxgk> Daisuke-Ido, I tried using nvidia-glx and had nothing but problems and envy worked like a charm for me... just my .02 worth
[08:39] <deviance> So, Is there a quick step by step guide to installing nvidia-glx
[08:39] <_4strO> alejandro_: try the precedent command with a sudo
[08:39] <SoulChild> hey i just compiled a vanilla kernel but i get: "request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt_464c" at boot ,.. any ideas ???
[08:39] <_4strO> alejandro_: i think it should be detect, bet not automount
[08:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> sdlnxgk: that doesn't change the fact that nvidia-glx is supported and envy isn't
[08:39] <_4strO> SoulChild: try a chocolate one :p
[08:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> and...
[08:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> !worksforme
[08:40] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[08:40] <SoulChild> _4strO: :D
[08:41] <sdlnxgk> Daisuke-Ido,  this is true but if the program works it works.. I  like it because I run SLI mode and was easier for me to set up since the so called supported nvidia-glx didn't work
[08:41] <JuJuBee> I have a routing question (or 2).  I have a network conected to a switch (few computers) and the switch connected to eth0 on a server.  On the server, eth1 connects to my cable modem.  From my computer (not this one) I can ping both interfaces on the server, but cannot get to google,com (by ip or dn).  On the server, I can browse the net.  Any ideas?
[08:43] <rand_acs> does anyone know how to setup channels on a sound card so that all of your speaks work? my rear speakers on a 5.1 set doesn't. the wiki guide's suggestion didn't help
[08:44] <alejandro_> no luck for me  _4strO
[08:44] <_4strO> :/
[08:44] <karlos> que saco eesse linux
[08:44] <karlos>  uma bosta
[08:45] <_4strO> alejandro_: did you look on internet about compatibility problems ?
[08:45] <karlos> muitos
[08:45] <rand_acs> KMix only shows a "Front" channel and no Rear, alsamixer confirms this...
[08:45] <tsdgeos> !br
[08:45] <karlos> problemas
[08:45] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[08:45] <_4strO> alejandro_: as i remember, some HD are not compatible
[08:45] <alejandro_> ahh
[08:46] <alejandro_> could be that
[08:46] <alejandro_> i my brother windows doesnt ran
[08:46] <_4strO> alejandro_: what is the HD reference ?
[08:46] <alejandro_> thosiba
[08:46] <alejandro_> reference .... buff
[08:47] <waspius> hi can someone tell me what needs to be done so i can find the package midnight commander?
[08:47] <alejandro_> well
[08:47] <alejandro_> i ll search in google
[08:47] <alejandro_> thanks for your help
[08:48] <waspius> does it have to do with repos?
[08:48] <elzbal> midnight commander: apt-get install mc
[08:48] <waspius> yes i know that but it says cannot find package
[08:49] <backpro> i install source package and now i wanna delete it how ??
[08:49] <elzbal> hmm... it just worked for me on feisty...
[08:50] <backpro> i install source package and now i wanna delete it how ??
[08:50] <mille_> waspius add debians apt server to your source list(dont upgrade and remove from list when done)
[08:51] <_4strO> waspius: mc is in the universe repo
[08:52] <waspius> mille_: which is debians apt server?
[08:52] <waspius> how do you check what you are running?if it is feisty or something else?
[08:52] <mille_> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free
[08:53] <waspius> mille_: thanx
[08:53] <mille_> don't upgrade
[08:53] <_4strO> waspius: lsb_release
[08:53] <mille_> and remove it when done
[08:53] <waspius> thanx allot
[08:53] <_4strO> mille_: what
[08:53] <_4strO> ...
[08:53] <_4strO> mille_: noway ...
[08:54] <waspius> mille_: why should i remove it afterwards?
[08:54] <_4strO> waspius: just active the universe repo and that's all
[08:54] <mille_> it try to upgrade your system from debian and ruin linux
[08:54] <waspius> ok
[08:55] <_4strO> waspius: what the command lsb_release say ?
[08:56] <_4strO> waspius:  lsb_release -a sorry
[08:56] <waspius> well i tried it on my debian distro but it says lsb modules unavailable
[08:56] <waspius> _4strO: i will ask my friend to check on his kubuntu to tell me
[08:56] <_4strO> waspius: with the -a option
[08:57] <_4strO> (i forget it)
[08:57] <waspius> _4strO: cool it worked..thanx allot
[08:57] <_4strO> mille_: is it possible to get ubuntu from a debian ?
[08:58] <mille_> no
[08:58] <_4strO> waspius: for having mc you can activate universe repo on debian too
[08:58] <mille_> however i bet you can mod debian to work like it
[08:58] <waspius> _4strO: on debian i have it
[08:58] <_4strO> ok ok
[08:59] <mille_> however you would have to know all the apps
[08:59] <_4strO> mille_: easyzer to reinstall all stuff :p
[08:59] <mille_> ubuntu comes with it
[09:00] <mille_> i go the easy route
[09:00] <mille_> and install ubuntu
[09:00] <waspius> well i found it that debian runs better on my pc
[09:00] <_4strO> waspius: and if you looking for where a package is : apt-cache madison youPackage
[09:01] <_4strO> +r
[09:01] <waspius> do you know why this comes up when trying to install mc?
[09:01] <waspius> Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/tzdata_2007b-1_all.deb
[09:01] <waspius> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:01] <otalivan> hi people
[09:02] <otalivan> in ubuntu there is a restricted driver manager. Does such a tool exist in kubuntu??
[09:02] <_4strO> waspius: a previews bad install ?
[09:02] <waspius> _4strO: i doubt it..cause before we put the repo it could not find the package
[09:02] <mille_> waspius try using synaptic to find midnight C
[09:02] <waspius> ok
[09:03] <_4strO> otalivan: if you talk about the video driver just look in K / system settings / monitor and display
[09:03] <_4strO> or sometibng like that
[09:05] <_4strO> waspius: if you have removed the previews repo, try to sudo apt-get update
[09:05] <waspius> _4strO: ok we are trying now from adept and i will let you know if everything went ok
[09:05] <mille_> waspius did you find it
[09:05] <waspius> mille_: yes
[09:05] <mille_> good
[09:06] <otalivan> ok thanks!
[09:07] <waspius> mille_: we get this error
[09:07] <waspius> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[09:07] <BluesKaj> if some one asks again: in kubuntu it's called restricted-manager
[09:09] <waspius> i got to go..thanx allot for the help though..i will join later
[09:09] <deviance> I have a wireless problem. It can see my wireless usb key, it can see my network, but when I put the WEP in it just gets stuck on 28% configuring the device
[09:10] <Braders> Hey can anyone help me with my wireless internet connection? i have installed ubuntu on a dell laptop and says the broadcom wireless is installed but it dont detect a wireless network?
[09:11] <BluesKaj> deviance, I'm not totally up on the wireless , but i do know this , WPA is much more secure than WEP
[09:11] <deviance> I knoe
[09:11] <deviance> know*
[09:11] <BluesKaj> !wireless | deviance
[09:11] <ubotu> deviance: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:11] <deviance> But not all my devices support WPA
[09:11] <Braders> i have enabled the wireless but still nothink
[09:12] <Braders> my other pcs are wireless
[09:12] <BluesKaj> as long as your gateway is using it
[09:13] <_4strO> BluesKaj: when i install restricted-manager it install synaptic too ...
[09:13] <winbond> whats up with that new ati driver, anyone got to use it yet?
[09:14] <_4strO> winbond: new ati driver from ati ?
[09:14] <winbond> _4strO: yup
[09:14] <RurouniJones> ATI is releasing a new driver soon
[09:14] <RurouniJones> Which is apparently a HUGE rewrite
[09:14] <RurouniJones> and doesn't suck balls
[09:14] <_4strO> i hate ATI !
[09:15] <RurouniJones> It has been tested by a website that does this sort of thing and it blows the old drivers out the water
[09:15] <winbond> yeah i hate ati too, but a good driver is surely needed
[09:15] <RurouniJones> apparently
[09:15] <BluesKaj> RurouniJones, where did you see that ?
[09:15] <RurouniJones> I think slashdot and digg have the news
[09:15] <BluesKaj> thx RurouniJones
[09:15] <_4strO> winbond: you're right
[09:15] <RurouniJones> http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/09/05/1328225.shtml
[09:15] <BluesKaj> gonna need it for gutsy
[09:16] <_4strO> winbond: or simply a foncctionnal driver will be enough
[09:16] <RurouniJones> Currently I think it is still binary
[09:16] <savircuser> hi
[09:16] <RurouniJones> They are making noises about Open-source but I think that is a logn way off or a pipe dream, like most I think a working driver would be a good start.
[09:17] <nowYZ> where is the german channel?
[09:17] <_4strO> !de
[09:17] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:17] <RurouniJones> !de
[09:17] <_4strO> i win !!!
[09:17] <RurouniJones> Bleh
[09:17] <RurouniJones> I was typing about ATI!
[09:17] <_4strO> ^^
[09:17] <nowYZ> as allways ubuntu doesnt use standards..
[09:17] <_4strO> i was rolling a cigarette :p
[09:18] <RurouniJones> Moaning about - instead of . eh?
[09:18] <RurouniJones> I don't remember seeing an ISO certified IRC channel naming standard but I'll check again.
[09:19] <_4strO> nowYZ: perhaps because the standards need an update :p
[09:20] <_4strO> RurouniJones: there is one policy (dont sure about the word)
[09:20] <nowYZ> ok german channel doesnt help :(
[09:21] <kaminix> Why is amarok so slow when tagging? Flac files btw.
[09:21] <nowYZ> here the problem, i need the default kde key bindings like CTRL+Tab or Konqueror search bar.. is there a way get these kde default settings?
[09:21] <RurouniJones> _4strO: Convention or "De-facto standard" is the word you want :)
[09:21] <_4strO> thx :)
[09:23] <pochoclo> . . .  hola
[09:24] <_4strO> nowYZ: i dont understand, you want get back the kde key binding or just set some
[09:24] <pochoclo> Mmm . . .   no entendo !
[09:24] <_4strO> pochoclo: hello
[09:24] <stdin> !es
[09:24] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:24] <pochoclo> hola . . .  como estas ?
[09:25] <_4strO> here is MC pochoclo !
[09:25] <_4strO> :)
[09:27] <nowYZ> _4strO no i just want the default kde behaviour and settings
[09:27] <nowYZ> _4strO for example why is in konqueror the search bar disabled?
[09:28] <_4strO> nowYZ: ask to Mark :p
[09:28] <_4strO> nowYZ: it isnt on my kubuntu
[09:29] <_4strO> nowYZ: i have the serach bar active per default
[09:29] <_4strO> search*
[09:29] <nowYZ> _4strO i just installed gubsy and it is disabled
[09:29] <pierreth> hello
[09:30] <nowYZ> _4strO and CTRL+Tab isnt set
[09:30] <_4strO> nowYZ: my mistake, it's the filter bar not the search bar
[09:30] <nowYZ> _4strO you kno the default kde settings are allmost perfect, they have usability experts and so on..
[09:31] <_4strO> nowYZ: i saw it before for the CTRL+Tab and i was surprised too
[09:33] <nowYZ> _4strO this really sux
[09:33] <oxyman> nowYZ: do you mean the search bar with the different search engines (google, wikipedia etc)?
[09:34] <nowYZ> oxyman exactly
[09:34] <_4strO> nowYZ: i think the reason is to be more friendly user
[09:34] <oxyman> nowYZ: hm..i know how to enable it but i've german kde so i dont know the exact names
[09:34] <nowYZ> _4strO ? but firefox/iceweasel isnt patched to remove that bar..
[09:35] <otalivan> hi guys
[09:35] <elite101> hello
[09:35] <_4strO> nowYZ: searching on the web is more frequent than searching files on your computer
[09:35] <otalivan> right now I am in real trouble, I need help again with my video driver...
[09:36] <elite101> mhm im on live cd and im going to newyork in a bit :D
[09:36] <nowYZ> _4strO that searchbar is for internet search engines
[09:36] <NickPresta> otalivan, which card?
[09:36] <otalivan> I finally got the nvidia 6 series driver to work, I get the nvidia logo at startup and everything,
[09:36] <deviance> Ok, my network is being weird. I can connect to the network, I can connect to my wireless router and edit its settings, but I can't access the internet. Any ideas?
[09:36] <eddy_> diocane diocane diocane wah
[09:36] <deviance> Also, when i try to change internet settings I get Conversation with su failed
[09:37] <otalivan> but now the desktop can't fit in one screen. I have a 19" monitor that should be set up to 1440x900@60
[09:37] <otalivan> this is my current xorg.conf file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36478/
[09:37] <_4strO> nowYZ: on firefox, the backspace binding isn't set
[09:37] <NickPresta> otalivan, use `nvidia-settings`
[09:37] <eavila> how change the chat channel???
[09:37] <oxyman> nowYZ: ok, rightclick on a symbol in the toolbar then go to "configure toolbars"
[09:38] <NickPresta> eavila, use /join #CHANNEL
[09:38] <tino> hola soy nuevo en el ubuntu y es la primera vez que reinicio el pc y me encuentro que en el Kopete todo el mundo esta desconectado.. es normal?? si hace 2 minutos tenia un monotn de gente!
[09:38] <_4strO> eavila: /join {channel
[09:38] <NickPresta> !es | tino
[09:38] <ubotu> tino: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:38] <_4strO> eavila: /join \#channel
[09:38] <nowYZ> oxyman wo isnt dat mit searchbar?
[09:38] <_4strO> eavila: without the backslashe
[09:38] <oxyman> oxyman: Toolbars: searchtoolbar. and then add search bar to current actions
[09:39] <eavila> Gracias
[09:39] <eavila> eavila: /join \#edubuntu-es
[09:39] <_4strO> nowYZ: i think i get the answer for the fact the search bar isn't set by defaut
[09:40] <_4strO> nowYZ: they dont want set search engine by default
[09:40] <oxyman> nowYZ: rechtslick auf ein symbol in der menleiste (z.b. home symbol), dann werkzeugleisten einrichten
[09:41] <otalivan> nvidia-settings doesn't work
[09:41] <nowYZ> anyway it sux
[09:41] <deviance> How do I get to the recovery console?
[09:41] <_4strO> nowYZ: it's opensource law, why they have to make advertise for google or others ...
[09:42] <nowYZ> _4strO they dont need to set google as searchengine
[09:42] <NickPresta> otalivan, what do you mean "doesn't work". What doesn't work?
[09:42] <deviance> !recovery console
[09:42] <otalivan> well I suppose I could change the xorg.conf to its backup, but I think the nvidia driver would no longer be working
[09:42] <otalivan> it's of no use, that's what I mean
[09:42] <_4strO> nowYZ: so wich one ?
[09:42] <_4strO> nowYZ: and if no one is set, so why put a search bar ? :)
[09:42] <otalivan> "nvidia-settings" is of no use, it has very few options, and none related to changing resolutions, etc
[09:43] <NickPresta> otalivan, in the X Server Display Configuration screen, there is the option to change your resolution...
[09:44] <BluesKaj> nowYZ, konq/configure konqueror/Browser ID/ check send identification/check that mozilla 5 is your default and that google.com listed in the box below
[09:44] <otalivan> yes, I know, but the option I want, 1440x900@60, doesn't show up there!
[09:45] <otalivan> I understand I must add that option to xorg.conf, but I don't know exactly what lines I should enter
[09:45] <BluesKaj> bummer missed him...type too slowly :(
[09:45] <NickPresta> otalivan, and you're using the correct driver?
[09:45] <_4strO> otalivan: so you have to put it manually in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:45] <otalivan> yes, I understand that, but I can't figure out how to do that
[09:45] <otalivan> I have my xorg.conf right here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36478/
[09:46] <otalivan> I know how to edit id, I simply don't know what lines I should type in there
[09:46] <_4strO> otalivan: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:46] <_4strO> otalivan: and look at the Section "Screen"
[09:46] <otalivan> thanks _4str0 , someone earlier today has taught me that command, but I don't know what to type in the xorg.conf file...
[09:47] <otalivan> could you please take a look at my xorg.conf file, and give me a hint on what I should type? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36478/
[09:49] <_4strO> otalivan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36479/ just paste the whole file
[09:49] <_4strO> otalivan: copy from the edit field
[09:50] <otalivan> I have tried doing that
[09:50] <NickPresta> I strongly suggest against manually configuring X if you don't know how or what you're doing. Try first, `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`. Select your desired resolution(s).
[09:50] <otalivan> it still didn't work... I think the line "VIRTUAL 1600 1200" might have something to do with it
[09:53] <_4strO> otalivan: so comment it
[09:53] <_4strO> otalivan: where this xorg.conf come from ?
[09:54] <facugaich> guys what's the name of the updater program?
[09:54] <xp_killer> hi everyone
[09:54] <wathek> hello all I've installed Kubuntu 7.10 and I've a problem with my sound card it doesn't work
[09:54] <NickPresta> facugaich, adept_updater, IIRC
[09:54] <NickPresta> !hi | xp_killer
[09:54] <ubotu> xp_killer: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[09:54] <NickPresta> !sound | wathek
[09:54] <ubotu> wathek: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:54] <xp_killer> facugaich: ?? up dateter?
[09:55] <xp_killer> NickPresta: tanks
[09:55] <_4strO> otalivan: better ?
[09:55] <_4strO> otalivan: where this xorg.conf come from ?
[09:55] <xp_killer> NickPresta: u know much about beryl?
[09:55] <facugaich> xp_killer: Yeah, adept_updater is what I was looking for
[09:55] <xp_killer> NickPresta: like how to use the water effects?
[09:56] <wathek> NickPresta: I've already tried that
[09:56] <otalivan> well what I did was executing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:56] <otalivan> know I got the monitor working at 1440x900@60
[09:56] <xp_killer> facugaich: oh lol u was just looking for adept
[09:56] <NickPresta> wathek, then what seems to be the problem?
[09:56] <facugaich> I accidentally deactivated the run on start up option for adept updater, how do I fix this?
[09:56] <NickPresta> !beryl | xp_killer
[09:56] <ubotu> xp_killer: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:56] <_4strO> otalivan: that what you want no ?
[09:57] <_4strO> otalivan: that's what you want no ?
[09:57] <wathek> NickPresta: there's no sound I've an Intel 82801  HDA INTEL
[09:57] <otalivan> yes, that was my primary concern! thanks
[09:57] <otalivan> but I also need to activate opengl, I'll see if it is working...
[09:57] <otalivan> thanks for the help!
[09:57] <wathek> NickPresta: when I put a music file in amarok it plays it but there's no sound
[09:57] <wathek> NickPresta: the mute is off
[09:58] <NickPresta> facugaich, do this: `cat /etc/init.d/apt-index-watcher`. Do you get output?
[09:58] <NickPresta> wathek, I don't know what your problem could be off-hand. Let me do a quick Google search
[09:58] <xp_killer> wathek: are all your volume turn up in the channels?
[09:58] <_4strO> otalivan: sorry i cant help on nvidia driver, i bnever had one, and i dont want break all your configuration :p
[09:59] <wathek> xp_killer: yes
[09:59] <xp_killer> NickPresta: google is our best friend lol
[09:59] <facugaich> NickPresta: no such file
[10:00] <xp_killer> wathek: your pcm too?
[10:00] <NickPresta> wathek, check this topic (http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=579540) specifically posts #2 and #4. Then,
[10:00] <NickPresta> facugaich, you're missing that script then. Strange. I can send you my script and you can place it in there.
[10:00] <wathek> NickPresta: the card I've is a 82801H
[10:01] <facugaich> NickPresta: wait, there must be another way. I exited the update notifier and chose to deactivate run-on-start-up
[10:02] <NickPresta> facugaich, oh! You should just re-enable it then. It was add the script back to it then
[10:02] <sayers> Hello I can't export Xvids with DigiKam any and all help please?
[10:02] <_4strO> facugaich: K /system settings / advanced / system services
[10:02] <ScorpKing> hi people. what is the best cli torrent client to use?
[10:03] <facugaich> _4strO: It's not there
[10:03] <facugaich> NickPresta: how do I re-enable it?
[10:03] <BluesKaj> nowYZ, konq/configure konqueror/Browser ID/ check send identification/check that mozilla 5 is your default and that google.com listed in the box below
[10:04] <BluesKaj> oops
[10:05] <BluesKaj> otalivan, open adept or synaptic and do a search for "nvidia-glx". Install that and it should work (you might have to change /etc/X11/xorg.conf to "nvidia" rather than "nv", I don't remember if that's automatic or not).
[10:06] <xp_killer> NickPresta: how do i fix the police for konversation i'm killin my eyes to see what people are saying
[10:06] <xp_killer> O_O
[10:06] <NickPresta> facugaich,  K /system settings / advanced / system services
[10:06] <NickPresta> xp_killer, I don't know what you're talking about
[10:07] <xp_killer> NickPresta: THE WORDS IN KONVERSATION IS TO SMALL I WANT THEM BIGGER
[10:07] <NickPresta> !attitude | xp_killer
[10:07] <ubotu> xp_killer: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:07] <NickPresta> !caps | xp_killer
[10:07] <ubotu> xp_killer: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:07] <facugaich> NickPresta: It's not there. What should I be looking for?
[10:08] <NickPresta> facugaich, apt-index-watcher
[10:08] <BluesKaj> xp_killer, have you considered looking around in konverstaion settings yourself ... it's pretty simple to find fonts idf you just look
[10:10] <_4str1> facugaich: i have the same problem, it's lok like when we desactivate it, it simply remove the apt-index-watcher from the /etc/init.d/ rep
[10:10] <xp_killer> BluesKaj: lol
[10:11] <BluesKaj> xp_killer, we'renot here to hold your hand , you have to to do somethings yourself
[10:11] <facugaich> _4str1: indeed
[10:11] <Yck-Ptaiza> is it possible to install kubuntu without having a cd to burn it? (i already have a partition with Ubuntu installed)
[10:11] <NickPresta> facugaich, you could try removing apt-index-watcher and reinstalling it
[10:11] <WaxyFres1> how do i edit what programs start automaticly?
[10:11] <WaxyFres1> Yck-Ptaiza: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:11] <NickPresta> WaxyFres1, K Menu > Sytem Settings > Advanced Tab > System Services
[10:11] <_4str1> NickPresta: there isn't any package with this name :/
[10:12] <Yck-Ptaiza> WaxyFres1 downloading the iso is not possible?
[10:12] <WaxyFres1> Yck-Ptaiza: no idea.whats wrong with my idea?
[10:13] <BCMM> what is the application called which appears when you use the volume keys on your keyboard in?
[10:13] <BCMM> (i'm trying to find and install it on a non-kubuntu box, but i've only ever seen it on kubuntu)
[10:13] <mille_> waxyfres1 check KCron
[10:14] <xp_killer> :p
[10:14] <WaxyFres1> is there a command that lists every registerd user on a machine?
[10:15] <NickPresta> _4str1, apt-index-watcher was a package in edgy. Oops.
[10:15] <Tm_T> WaxyFres1: what you mean by registered?
[10:15] <_4str1> WaxyFres1: users
[10:15] <WaxyFres1> i set up a friends computer with kubuntu and dont remember what user name i used
[10:15] <mille_> open kuser
[10:15] <WaxyFres1> cant log in or i would use kuser
[10:16] <Savak> BCMM - it's kmix
[10:16] <mille_> ok
[10:16] <_4str1> WaxyFres1: oups : cat /etc/passwd
[10:17] <elzbal> Waxy: You'll need to start it up from a livecd, open the existing drive, and take a look at /etc/passwd
[10:17] <waylandbill> WaxyFres1: even better is: grep "/bin/bash" /etc/passwd
[10:17] <_4str1> WaxyFres1: cat /etc/passwd| grep 1000 (if the user you looking for is the first you create)
[10:18] <mille_> cat /etc/passwd | more
[10:18] <xp_killer> mille_: wa is that?
[10:18] <winbond> or cat /etc/passwd | cut -d":" -f1
[10:18] <BCMM> Savak: kmix does that? thanks
[10:19] <mcquaid> are there any plans for kde beta 2 pkgs?
[10:19] <_4str1> cat /etc/passwd | grep 1000 | cut -d":" -f1
[10:19] <_4str1> ^^
[10:19] <BCMM> hmm, so when forward track and back track work, that's Amarok doing it?
[10:19] <_4str1> cat /etc/passwd | grep 1000 | cut -d":" -f1  will give only the name :p
[10:19] <waylandbill> grep -v "/bin/false" /etc/passwd
[10:19] <bona> hi
[10:20] <Savak> don't follow you BCMM :p
[10:20] <BCMM> well, on my brother's machine, there is a next track button
[10:20] <BCMM> which just seems to work
[10:20] <BCMM> i guess amarok is configured that way by default
[10:20] <waylandbill> _4str1: cat'ing something and piping to grep is the same as just giving a file name to grep
[10:21] <Savak> yes, it would be totally seperate to the on screen volume
[10:21] <bona> :P i cant write a (at).. but the keyboard layer is correct :(
[10:21] <_4str1> waylandbill: yep i know
[10:22] <xp_killer> bona: if the layot is corect then the keyboard is aiming the barbage
[10:22] <deviance> Conversation with su failed. What does that mean?
[10:22] <xp_killer> deviance:  google is your friend ;-)
[10:22] <bona> what is "the barbage" ?
[10:22] <ch40s> are there any good dock programs for KDE?
[10:22] <ch40s> similar to OSX
[10:23] <emilsedgh_> ch40s: kxdocker, ksmoothdock and kooldock
[10:23] <waylandbill> _4str1: so the cool command would be best written as: grep -v "/bin/false" /etc/password | cut -d":" -f1    :-)
[10:23] <kwilliam> ch40s: as far as I know... no.
[10:23] <ch40s> !dock
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <xp_killer> bona: trash
[10:23] <facugaich> _4str1: what can we do?
[10:23] <deviance> xp_killer I can only find the answer for 6.06, not for 7.04
[10:23] <ch40s> personal favorite emilsedgh_?
[10:23] <_4str1> waylandbill: the reason is that often i cat a file to see if it's the good one and then i just use the up arrow to dont have to retype all things and then jst put a pipe ...
[10:23] <emilsedgh_> ch40s: none :)
[10:23] <bona> aaaahhh okey...
[10:23] <ch40s> haha cool
[10:23] <NickPresta> ch40s, check out 'avant-window-navigator'
[10:23] <_4str1> facugaich: the easyer way is to recreate it manually :p
[10:23] <ch40s> ok
[10:23] <deviance> And cat /etc/sudoers/ doesnt exist
[10:23] <xp_killer> deviance: so try sudo
[10:24] <emilsedgh_> ch40s: i dont like docks :P
[10:24] <bona> hmm whit windows it has work... but now i have linux :P
[10:24] <facugaich> _4str1: or to ask NickPresta for his
[10:24] <waylandbill> _4str1: oh. interactive. I would think it would be most useful in a shell script for use later, but to each his own. :-D
[10:24] <NickPresta> ch40s, http://code.google.com/p/avant-window-navigator/
[10:24] <ch40s> NickPresta: ty
[10:24] <Savak> BCMM, if your talking about a laptop, you may also need kmilo
[10:25] <deviance> xp_killer I was launching adept how do I do it with sudo?
[10:25] <eder> hi to all
[10:26] <xp_killer> bona: are u shore u put the right layout?
[10:26] <NickPresta> facugaich, _4str1, http://nickpresta.ath.cx/temp/apt-index-watcher . Place that in /etc/init.d/ Then run `sudo update-rc.d apt-index-watcher default`
[10:26] <_4str1> facugaich: http://4strO.is-a-geek.org/~cedric/apt-index-watcher
[10:26] <_4str1> NickPresta: :)
[10:26] <facugaich> NickPresta, _4str1: thanks
[10:26] <bona> hmm not 100% but i think so... i go check it :P
[10:27] <xp_killer> deviance: to install with sudo open a konsole type sudo apt-get install "name of what u want install"
[10:27] <deviance> Hmm
[10:27] <deviance> What does xhost + mean
[10:27] <deviance> Its supposed to fix the SU problem
[10:29] <BluesKaj> !su
[10:29] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:29] <facugaich> NickPresta: well that didn't work but I probably have to change 'default' to 'defaults' right?
[10:29] <milian_> Riddell: where should bugs in your strigi applet be filed? launchpad or kde bugtracker?
[10:31] <milian> the problem is, that when you move kicker to the top of the screen (with your tray bar) the input field is still shown above kicker
[10:31] <milian> thus nearly outside the screen
[10:31] <NickPresta> facugaich, yes. Sorry about that :)
[10:31] <facugaich> NickPresta: np, thank youi
[10:32] <winbond> when are the kde4 b2 packages gonna be ready?
[10:33] <mcquaid> anyone know if there are any plans of releasing beta 2 packages?
[10:33] <deviance> xp_killer: A restart has fixed the problem. But on restart I was told my Hard disk has been 49710 days with out a check LOL
[10:34] <deviance> In 7.04 are restricted repositories enabled by defaukt?
[10:35] <xp_killer> deviance: O_o all those days
[10:35] <deviance> I don't think its quite right :P
[10:35] <BluesKaj> winbond, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha2.php
[10:35] <deviance> I did one about a year ago
[10:35] <deviance> Wow, it looks like they are :D
[10:36] <deviance> 116 packages to update :D
[10:36] <_4strO> rhooo that's unfair the /usr/sbin/apt-index-watcher didn't exist ...
[10:37] <deviance> Right, on a new install of Kubuntu, what packages would you install first? (After the update?
[10:37] <deviance> Graphics drivers?
[10:37] <Savak> i usually remove a load of packages first hehe
[10:37] <deviance> lol :P
[10:38] <deviance> Also, if I install nVidia GLX will it automaticly install? or are there alod of commands I have to do myself?
[10:38] <hydrogen> deviance: thats completly dependant on what exactly it is you want to get out of your computer
[10:38] <thill2708> I have kmail setup to access two of my gmail accounts, and everything was going ok, but now I have two emails stuck in the outbox that won't send. Any thoughts?
[10:38] <deviance> thill2708: See if they will send through gmail.com
[10:39] <thill2708> deviance: oh, I already logged into gmail over the web and sent test messages as well. All's fine on that end.
[10:40] <deviance> thill2708:  Send a message to yourself and see if Kmail will pick it up
[10:40] <Riddell> milian: launchpad I guess
[10:40] <sambiase> hi there...i wonder if there is a kubuntu version for USB? I want to install Kubuntu on my USB stick and run from there
[10:40] <milian> Riddell: ok, thanks
[10:41] <thill2708> deviance: Sits in the outbox still :(
[10:41] <drewcipher_> thill2708:  was it working or is this a new set up?
[10:41] <deviance> Does it pick up the incoming mail?
[10:41] <thill2708> ah hah! A window just popped up for the first time saying a timeout has occured on smtp.gmai.com
[10:41] <thill2708> gmail.com
[10:41] <thill2708> first time it did that
[10:42] <drewcipher_> thill2708:  use pop.gmail.com port 995 SSL
[10:43] <thill2708> drewcipher_: to send?
[10:43] <thill2708> drewcipher_: ok, using that server, that port, enabling ssl
[10:43] <drewcipher_> thill2708:  sorry, no you're right.  that's for piick up.
[10:44] <xp_killer> stdin: how do i save the rooms so i dont have to type them again to connect
[10:44] <drewcipher_> thill2708:  my gmail is set to (outbound)   smtp.gmail.com port 587 using TLS
[10:44] <deviance> What is the difference between the 5 or so pannels you get to choose from?
[10:44] <stdin> xp_killer: in konversation you go to the server list, click edit and you can add them there
[10:45] <thill2708> drewcipher_: ah, mines on 465.
[10:46] <winbond> 32 or 64bit?
[10:46] <_4strO> winbond: wii
[10:46] <_4strO> :)
[10:47] <winbond> _4strO: got a xbox360 already
[10:47] <xp_killer> stdin:  server list???
[10:48] <_4strO> he didn't*
[10:48] <deviance> ARG How do I make a second pannel and move it to the top?
[10:48] <deviance> It moves the main one and I cant seem to move the second one
[10:48] <winbond> _4strO: which one r u running?
[10:48] <xp_killer> stdin: do u mean book mark?
[10:49] <_4strO> winbond: windowsXP :p
[10:49] <winbond> _4strO: 32 or 64
[10:49] <_4strO> 32
[10:50] <winbond> i read that 64bit is faster for compiling stuff, so im thinking of using it
[10:50] <_4strO> i have a dual boot so ubuntu for working and windows XP for playing
[10:50] <xp_killer> stdin: i lauch real player the logo freez on the screen.i try alt+f4 and alt+ctrl+escap it didnt close it
[10:50] <Xera> How do I remove something that I compiled?
[10:50] <Xera> It has no make uninstall :(
[10:50] <xp_killer> stdin: oh wait it just work ouf
[10:51] <stdin> xp_killer: for konversation hit f2 then edit
[10:51] <NickPresta> winbond, you rarely compile things in a binary distribution like *buntu. Plus, you run into other problems due to 64-bit (Flash, etc).
[10:51] <winbond> Xera: -remove?
[10:51] <stdin> xp_killer: also, consider asking the channel the questions, not just me
[10:51] <_4strO> NickPresta: the updater is called adept_notifier in feisty :p
[10:52] <xp_killer> stdin: :p
[10:52] <_4strO> and to activate it i had just to launch it :p
[10:52] <xp_killer> lol
[10:52] <thill2708> drewcipher_: what's your smtp settings again? I'm getting not supported errors
[10:53] <xp_killer> stdin: how come your not allways there these days?
[10:53] <winbond> NickPresta: i guess u're right, im not gonna compile that much
[10:53] <Xera> winbond: I'm not sure I follow, if you mean "make install -remove" or "make -remove" I tried that
[10:53] <stdin> xp_killer: because I have a life :p and because I like to idle on IRC
[10:53] <elite101> :D
[10:53] <elite101> hello
[10:53] <drewcipher_> thill2708:  checking and doing a test message so I don't waste any more of your time.
[10:54] <thill2708> drewcipher_: ... I am... but.. nevermind.
[10:54] <elite101> i have a IRC channel #console-bash and i cant remember on how to sign in and be Op again?
[10:54] <elite101> there is a IRC command
[10:54] <thill2708> drewcipher_: It would just be faster to ask you, instead of trying each encryption protocol and getting an unsupported error
[10:54] <xp_killer> xp_killer: why idle and u can feel much better by helpin people
[10:54] <hydrogen> elite101: ask in #freenode
[10:54] <hydrogen> its not a question for here
[10:54] <elite101> errr
[10:54] <elite101> yeah
[10:55] <xp_killer> stdin: if u dont speek i dont see why u come here just to show your self
[10:55] <winbond> Xera: i was just thinking u can try make -remove, but it probably wont work
[10:55] <Xera> Ok
[10:55] <Xera> In case it helps, it's Lua 5.1.2 that I compiled
[10:55] <stdin> xp_killer: I keep an eye on the channel, and kick the baddies out
[10:56] <elite101> :D
[10:56] <drewcipher_> thill2708:  tested.  My settings:      smtp.gmail.com  port 587   username@gmail.com  TLS
[10:56] <winbond> Xera: if there is no uninstall i guess you'll have to delete manually
[10:56] <winbond> Xera: unless someone in here knows a better way
[10:57] <_4strO> sometimes stdin become stdout !
[10:57] <xp_killer> oh stdin
[10:57] <stdin> BluesKaj ?
[10:58] <xp_killer> :D
[10:58] <drewcipher_> thill2708:   checking my headers for my test message.  maybe I'm on the pipe here.
[10:58] <BluesKaj> stdin,pm
[10:58] <stdin> elite101: oh, and it's "/cs op #channel"
[11:00] <stdin> !away > deviance|away
[11:00] <deviance|away> (sorry)
[11:01] <xp_killer> stdin: how do u kick the bad people out?are u a mod?
[11:02] <deviance|away> What packages are needed for MySQL with PHP
[11:02] <mcquaid> is a really minimal mp3 player thats qt3 based?  My voip provider emails my voicemail to me, and I don't want to use amarok to play a quick voice mp3
[11:02] <stdin> xp_killer: if you want to ask general questions, ask them in #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:02] <mcquaid> uh is there a..
[11:02] <stdin> xp_killer: and yeah, I am
[11:02] <drewcipher_> thill2708:  my system is pretty hacked.  Going to try on a clean system.  From reading, all suggest your initial settings were correct using smtp.gmail.com 465      Can you see if that port is open:   #>telnet smtp.gmail.com 465
[11:02] <_4strO> mcquaid: xmms
[11:02] <xp_killer> stdin: lol how do i become one?
[11:03] <dale_> could someone help me out with sound problems
[11:03] <dale_> ?
[11:03] <mcquaid> of course i know of xmms.  I said qt3 based.
[11:03] <_4strO> oups
[11:03] <stdin> xp_killer: I'll answer that in #kubuntu-offtopic only
[11:03] <BluesKaj> dale_, describe your problem
[11:03] <ubuntu_> does anyone know which file tells X which display manager to use at startup?
[11:04] <stdin> deviance|away: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:04] <thill2708>  drewcipher_: yeah, recieving is perfect. It's the sending that's the problem :(
[11:04] <dale_> I've got my sound card recognized, but it only wants to play through the front jacks on my comp
[11:04] <ubuntu_> mcquaid: juk?
[11:04] <_4strO> ubuntu_: is you want change try to sudo dpkg reconfigure *dm
[11:04] <kkathman> hmm ok whats the secret to getting a sound to play when mail comes in? I went to system settings and turned on the sound, associated a wav/ogg with the event, but when you click thatTest button nothing happens. But when I play through amarok or from Konq its fine?
[11:04] <thill2708> drewcipher_: yup, can telnet to it
[11:04] <kkathman> this a bug?
[11:05] <dale_> i can't have it play through the front jacks though because I lost the install manual and the online mans for my motherboard don't match the pins I have on it.
[11:05] <dale_> BluesKaj: think you can help?
[11:05] <BluesKaj> yeah hangon
[11:06] <Xera> WTH Adept started removing my entire system
[11:07] <michacz> .
[11:07] <Xera> Note to self: Do not try and remove a package with the kubuntu logo next to it
[11:07] <BluesKaj> dale_, ok first of all , open system settings/sound system/enable sound system/hardwaretab/select audio device/alsa
[11:08] <dale_> k
[11:08] <BluesKaj> alsa=advanced linux sound architecture
[11:09] <kkathman> looks as if kde control center doesn work worth a diddly :)
[11:09] <dale_> BluesKaj: gotcha
[11:10] <zlittell> hey guys... when i do a PxE install i only get a shell... like i can take the laptop around and stuff but when i boot i just get a shell... am i doing
[11:10] <zlittell> something wrong
[11:10] <BluesKaj> ok, now open kmix ...the speaker icon in the panel/mixer
[11:10] <dale_> BluesKaj: k
[11:11] <BluesKaj> output tab
[11:11] <parsnip> hey all
[11:11] <dale_> BluesKaj: k
[11:11] <Alpha_Cluster> is there a way to get a button to open konsole when you right click on your desktop?
[11:11] <parsnip> can someone help me with this command I wrote
[11:11] <parsnip> find -name '*.jpg' -exec convert {} Album.png\;
[11:11] <drewcipher_> thill2708:  will take me a few to get a clean system with kmail up.  I'm sure you tried this but not sure about step 15:  http://pastebin.ca/682926
[11:11] <BluesKaj> sliders , master pcm and iec958 playback at 70% or so.. dale
[11:12] <parsnip> I want to go through a folder / subfolders and convert the images (1 per folder) to album.png (I have imagemagik installed)
[11:12] <dale_> BluesKaj: no iec958
[11:13] <parsnip> can anyone advise please
[11:13] <savetheWorld> parsnip: each image will be named album.png?
[11:13] <BluesKaj> ok dale whatever the slider to the left of the pc speaker is
[11:14] <parsnip> savetheWorld: yes, there is one in each folder
[11:14] <savetheWorld> parsnip: what are those images named now?
[11:14] <dale_> BluesKaj:that's "Front"
[11:14] <parsnip> savetheWorld: they just all have random names atthe moment
[11:14] <dale_> BluesKaj: which I cannot set up atm
[11:14] <BluesKaj> parsnip, Album.png\; ?  ... shouldn't it be Album.png/; ?
[11:14] <parsnip> savetheWorld: but are all jpg
[11:14] <savetheWorld> parsnip: do they have a common extension?
[11:14] <savetheWorld> heh yes.
[11:15] <savetheWorld> parsnip - whats the command to convert just one to album.png?
[11:15] <evri2> guys i cannot use audacity.It doesn't play my files
[11:15] <BluesKaj> ok dale , in the konsole type alsamixer
[11:15] <parsnip> convert input.jpg output.png
[11:15] <angasule> hey, --purge only removes stuff in /etc but not $HOME, correct?
[11:15] <savetheWorld> parsnip: that converst the format as well?
[11:15] <savetheWorld> *converts
[11:15] <parsnip> yep..imagemagik :D
[11:16] <savetheWorld> lets see- the first part is find . -name "*.jpg"
[11:16] <parsnip> !imagemagik
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about imagemagik - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <stdin> angasule: yeah, you have to remove the files from ~/ manually
[11:16] <dale_> BluesKaj: k
[11:16] <angasule> stdin: cool, just wanted confirmation, thanks :)
[11:17] <BluesKaj> dale use the arrow keys and the M Key to unmute the contrls there and make sure master pcm and line and all the surrounsds etc all hve '00' s in the box ...set the ctrl sliders to 65-70%
[11:17] <savetheWorld> parsnip  find . -name "*.jpg" -exec convert {}  Blah.png.
[11:17] <savetheWorld> parsnip: we need to replace the Blah.
[11:17] <parsnip> savetheWorld: with the /; on the end
[11:18] <dale_> BluesKaj: done
[11:18] <savetheWorld> parsnip: what does the '; do?
[11:18] <eder> Hi to everyone
[11:18] <savetheWorld> parsnip: what does the /; do?
[11:19] <eder> i need some help with a video card
[11:19] <eder> please help me
[11:19] <BluesKaj> ok, dale in the konsole type : sudo asoundconf list
[11:19] <eder> oye BluesKaj hablas espaol?
[11:20] <parsnip> savetheWorld: seems to be on all the examples of a find command with exec in it
[11:20] <BluesKaj> !es | eder
[11:20] <ubotu> eder: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:20] <eder> no, i just was aking
[11:20] <eder> no, i just was asking
[11:20] <savetheWorld> parsnip: yes - it goes at the end.  so the ";" can be passed to the subshell.
[11:21] <BluesKaj> dale, did it list the sound card name ?
[11:21] <dale_> BluesKaj: yes
[11:21] <dale_> BluesKaj: nvidia mcp61
[11:21] <eder> People, please help with a video card Nvidia FX 5200
[11:21] <BluesKaj> no eder, but my sister does ...she studied spanish in madrid and taught spanish after
[11:21] <blue112_> Ayam mon pere \o/
[11:22] <parsnip> savetheWorld: ok man thanks for the help, i can do it with gui but fancied a challenge :)
[11:22] <eder> i downloaded this driver from nvidia.com >>>>>>>>>>> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run
[11:22] <eder> and installed
[11:22] <savetheWorld> parsnip: by clicking? ewww!
[11:22] <eder> but the x dont start
[11:22] <BluesKaj> dale, ok again in the console : sudo asoundconf set-default-card "nvidia mcp61"
[11:22] <parsnip> hehe
[11:23] <parsnip> im learning :D
[11:23] <zeemon> the only nvidia drivers that work for me where the Automatix ones
[11:23] <eder> zeemon, now i cant start my X server, what can i do?
[11:24] <dale_> BluesKaj: it only shows nvidia for asoundconf
[11:24] <BluesKaj> ok, that should be ok
[11:24] <parsnip> savetheWorld:
[11:24] <parsnip> $ find . -name "*.jpg" -exec convert {} Album.png\;
[11:24] <parsnip> find: missing argument to `-exec'
[11:25] <dale_> BluesKaj: it does nothing
[11:25] <eder> can anybody help me plz? is that im new in Linux and i dont know what to do
[11:25] <stdin> parsnip: put a space before \
[11:26] <parsnip> savetheWorld: whats the difference between " and '
[11:27] <parsnip> savetheWorld: it executes now but does nothing
[11:27] <BluesKaj> dale , back to the kmix settings , input tab , line cd and any playback ctrls at 70% , then switches playback and mix are turned on
[11:27] <parsnip> savetheWorld: ive got my LPI book out :D
[11:28] <zeemon> hey eder u speak more spanish than english?
[11:28] <eder> yeap
[11:29] <eder> sorry zeemon
[11:29] <eder> but i can speak some english and undestand it
[11:29] <zeemon> ok no prob im from mexico
[11:29] <zeemon> but this channel is just in english
[11:29] <eder> Ok zeemon can we open a private window?
[11:30] <zeemon> im not registered but join #linux-mexico
[11:31] <eder> can i get help with my problem in linux-mexico zeemon?
[11:31] <zeemon> im there
[11:31] <eder> Ok
[11:31] <stdin> there is a #kubuntu-es too
[11:32] <eder> kubuntu es is always empty
[11:32] <stdin> #ubuntu-es then :p
[11:32] <bjwebb_> hi
[11:33] <bjwebb_> ive brocken apt :S
[11:33] <bjwebb_> hello?
[11:33] <drif> !adeptfix | bjwebb_
[11:33] <ubotu> bjwebb_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[11:34] <bjwebb> drif: nah
[11:34] <bjwebb> not that
[11:34] <drif> bjwebb: then be more specific...
[11:34] <drif> bjwebb: broke doesn't mean anything.. at first atleast I think of that scenario above
[11:34] <bjwebb> drif: for example...
[11:34] <bjwebb> apt-cache search test
[11:35] <bjwebb> just hangs
[11:35] <radioaktivstorm> is there a reason that i am not able to brows the web with konqueror while all my other programs can see the internet? i changed access points.
[11:35] <bjwebb> and i get lots of lsb_release apport and apt-cache
[11:36] <bjwebb> drif: any idea?
[11:36] <parsnip> savetheWorld: thanks for the help dude
[11:36] <parsnip> savetheWorld: i gota split
[11:36] <slougi> radioaktivstorm: knetworkmanager can do that if you don't connect through it
[11:36] <parsnip> savetheWorld: peace
[11:36] <savetheWorld> np
[11:36] <slougi> radioaktivstorm: it's very very very annoying
[11:37] <radioaktivstorm> slougi: yes... quite. thanks for the insight
[11:37] <slougi> you're welcome
[11:38] <bjwebb> can anyone help me fix apt?
[11:38] <_2> bjwebb are you saying that     apt-cache search '^bash '    doesn't work, sorry i haven't kept up   ?
[11:38] <bjwebb> yeah
[11:38] <bjwebb> it just hangs
[11:39] <_2> bjwebb sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:39] <bjwebb> and i get multiple listings of lsb_release, apport and apt-cache in ps -A
[11:39] <bjwebb> and it slows down
[11:40] <bjwebb> _2: i did that, but it didn't improve
[11:40] <_2> bjwebb sudo apt-get install -f ;sudo apt-get --reinstall install dpkg
[11:40] <_2> maybe even in reverse order
[11:41] <bjwebb> apt-get hangs like apt-cache
[11:41] <_2> bjwebb gutsy ?
[11:41] <bjwebb> nah feisty
[11:42] <bjwebb> hmm i think i might have got something to with the kernel over apt-get upgrade recently
[11:42] <bjwebb> should i have done?
[11:43] <_2> try booting the older kernel and see if that's it
[11:43] <brmassa> guys, i installed windows after kubuntu on a fat32 partition. now i want to access the partition its saying: "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000"
[11:43] <bjwebb> _2: hmm how would i see if i have infact got multiple kernels to boot into?
[11:44] <_2> bjwebb at boot time hit [esc]    and look    or right now    grep -ve '#' /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:45] <_2> bjwebb or    ls /lib/modules
[11:45] <_2> seeing that you did specify that it was apt that installed the kernel
[11:46] <bjwebb> i thing i must have been getting mixed up or something
[11:46] <bjwebb> only one kernel
[11:46] <bjwebb> _2: the moddules things has a newer one
[11:46] <bjwebb> i don't know how new
[11:47] <bjwebb> -l :D
[11:47] <bjwebb> very new
[11:47] <_2> possably not    they have started making kernel patch packages that update the kernel without adding one.   which really sux if it breaks things
[11:47] <_2> oh late on that  ^
[11:47] <bjwebb> how do i load the older modules?
[11:48] <_2> ok if there are two kernels   you should be able to boot the older one
[11:48] <bjwebb> nah not in /boot
[11:48] <_2> ls /boot/vm*   just to see what's there
[11:48] <bjwebb> only the one afaik
[11:48] <bjwebb> yep only one
[11:49] <rdvon> where do i get the restricted codecs ?:] 
[11:49] <_2> !codecs
[11:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:49] <rdvon> thanky :)
[11:49] <bjwebb> but i have two lots of modules in /lib/modules
[11:49] <_2> that's odd.
[11:49] <rdvon> what is the apt-get line?
[11:50] <_2> rdvon should be on the page   ^
[11:50] <rdvon> :\ ok.
[11:50] <bjwebb> _2: any ideas?
[11:51] <_2> bjwebb not really.     possable  sources.list error
[11:51] <bjwebb> _2: how? i only have one kernel in /boot/
[11:52] <_2> has nothing to do with that.
[11:52] <bjwebb> oh oops
[11:52] <rdvon> latest ubuntu is edgy right :>
[11:52] <_2> see   /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:52] <bjwebb> yeah, just realised
[11:52] <_2> rdvon no.  fiesty
[11:52] <rdvon> oh yeah.
[11:52] <rdvon> :)
[11:52] <bjwebb> _2: don't think it is tho, cos ive seen when it doesn't parse that
[11:53] <_2> bjwebb but i could be parsing something it can't digest
[11:53] <_2> i would look anyway
[11:53] <bjwebb> _2: i ran apt-get update
[11:53] <bjwebb> and now it works
[11:53] <_2> so it was the sources.list    just not a particular error in it..
[11:54] <_2> bjwebb >>> "could be parsing something it can't digest"   <<<  so it was
[11:54] <bjwebb> _2: hmm maybe
[11:55] <bjwebb> thanks for the help anyway
[11:55] <_2> np
[11:55] <soulrider__> does anyone knwo whatt he begginers team channel is ?
[11:55] <_2> *buntu ?
[11:55] <_2> :)
[11:56] <gener1c> whats that
[11:57] <_2> soulrider sorry ! i
[11:57] <rdvon> er... for someone reason my apt.list isn't workign :\
[11:57] <rdvon> I tried adding a line..
[11:57] <cloakable> rdvon: what did you add?
[11:57] <rdvon> than removed it because it wasnt working.
[11:57] <rdvon> deb http://b2cs.delcorp.org/debian/ edgy main
[11:58] <Almighty_Henaro> Hey guys~ How do I change resolution in KDE?
[11:58] <cloakable> rdvon: what does your list say now?
[11:58] <rdvon> wait... It must've been the extra enter I pressed..
[12:01] <emilsedgh_> Almighty_Henaro: SystemSettings->Monitor And Display
[12:01] <rdvon> E: Malformed line 43 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse) I get this error...
[12:01] <rdvon> and this is what is on line 43: deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security
[12:01] <rdvon> :\
[12:01] <Almighty_Henaro> Where is System Settings?
[12:01] <Almighty_Henaro> D:
[12:01] <stdin> Almighty_Henaro: in the KMenu
[12:01] <emilsedgh_> rdvon: copy whole file in pastebin, please
[12:01] <Almighty_Henaro> ._.
[12:02] <Almighty_Henaro> Where's the KMenu...?
[12:02] <_2> ping: unknown host http://b2cs.delcorp.org
[12:02] <emilsedgh_> !pastebin | rdvon
[12:02] <ubotu> rdvon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:02] <rdvon> http://pastebin.com/m33c8fa80
[12:02] <stdin> Almighty_Henaro: just above "Actions"
[12:02] <emilsedgh_> Almighty_Henaro: bottom, left, where the start button was in xp !
[12:02] <_2> rdvon http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-security
[12:03] <rdvon> Almighty_Henaro: if it isnt showing you made need to add it :P
[12:03] <Almighty_Henaro> Oh wait the Kicker?
[12:03] <rdvon> are you in the kmenu??
[12:03] <Almighty_Henaro> Yeah I guess
[12:03] <rdvon> Ok.
[12:03] <_2> rdvon and it needs an entry.   i.e.   main universe multiverse restricted
[12:04] <emilsedgh_> Almighty_Henaro: go to konqueror-> settings:/ -> Peripherals -> Monitor And Display
[12:04] <rdvon> Almighy_Henaro: do you need the system settings, or the settings menu?
[12:04] <Almighty_Henaro> Can't seem to find "Monitor and Display" any where.
[12:04] <rdvon> it's in system settings..
[12:04] <rdvon> right above "actions" bar.
[12:04] <rdvon> or divider
[12:04] <rdvon> or whatever you call it :P
[12:04] <Almighty_Henaro> I don't have an "Actions" bar
[12:05] <rdvon> er...
[12:05] <rdvon> do you see run command?
[12:05] <rdvon> it should be above that.
[12:05] <Almighty_Henaro> Oh that
[12:05] <Almighty_Henaro> Nope
[12:05] <VirtuoS> help me with this
[12:05] <VirtuoS> checking for rpath... yes
[12:05] <Almighty_Henaro> System Menu
[12:05] <VirtuoS> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[12:05] <VirtuoS> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[12:05] <VirtuoS> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[12:05] <rdvon> Almighty_Henaro: press alt f2, and type kcontrol
[12:05] <emilsedgh_> VirtuoS: install kdelibs-dev please
[12:06] <garfield> oh
[12:06] <garfield> hi
[12:06] <Almighty_Henaro> Okay~
[12:06] <rdvon> Almighty_Henaro: now in the search bar (under file) type panels
[12:06] <rdvon> click the results
[12:06] <Almighty_Henaro> Alright
[12:06] <rdvon> it should say panels :)
[12:06] <rdvon> now go to the menus tab
[12:07] <rdvon> you should see all the menus you can add.
[12:07] <Almighty_Henaro> Uhmmm
[12:07] <Almighty_Henaro> What about resolution...
[12:07] <rdvon> *you dont have the system settings menu in your k menu :P
[12:07] <EricL> Would downloading Gutsy potentially make setting up dual-monitor (panoramic not clone) easier?
[12:07] <Almighty_Henaro> Oh
[12:08] <EricL> Because it's a PITA on Feisty with a Dell Optiplex 720.
[12:08] <Almighty_Henaro> Well I have "Settings" and "System Menu"
[12:08] <emilsedgh_> rdvon: your problem is solved? with sources.list ?
[12:08] <rdvon> emilsedgh: I'm helping someone :>
[12:08] <Almighty_Henaro> Niether of wich contain Display or Monitor
[12:08] <stdin> Almighty_Henaro: under "Help"
[12:08] <rdvon> ok. than type display in the search :\
[12:08] <rdvon> I seemed to drift off your actual problem sorry :)
[12:09] <Almighty_Henaro> stdin,"Help"?
[12:10] <emilsedgh_> Almighty_Henaro: press Alt+f2 then run displayconfig in it
[12:10] <rdvon> fine. Do it the easier way :P
[12:10] <Almighty_Henaro> Says it can't be run
[12:10] <stdin> Almighty_Henaro: see this http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7602/image14kc0.png ?
[12:10] <Almighty_Henaro> "Could not run the specified command"
[12:10] <emilsedgh_> Almighty_Henaro: how did you install kubuntu?
[12:11] <rdvon> can I have someone's unchanged sources.list please.
[12:11] <Almighty_Henaro> No I installed KDE along with Ubuntu
[12:11] <rdvon> there's your problem :P
[12:11] <Almighty_Henaro> Don't see a system settings
[12:11] <Almighty_Henaro> :/
[12:11] <emilsedgh_> rdvon: delete the line 44 please, whats that 'multiverse' doing there? if you want add multiverse in the line 43
[12:11] <rdvon> er.. it was just their :)
[12:11] <Almighty_Henaro> Well how should I go about fixing the problem
[12:12] <garfield> rdvon: hey
[12:12] <stdin> rdvon: have a look in /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list or use http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic to regenerate
[12:12] <emilsedgh_> Almighty_Henaro: install kubuntu-desktop please to have a complete kubuntu system :)
[12:12] <Almighty_Henaro> Oh okay~
[12:12] <rdvon> Almighty_henaro: you could also look for the missing package...
[12:12] <_2> rdvon i told you, line 34 needs args.    i.e.  deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ fiesty-security main universe multiverse restricted
[12:13] <garfield> stdin: can u unset my banded?
[12:13] <stdin> garfield: I can't, no
[12:14] <rdvon> yay it works! thanks guys :)
[12:17] <garfield> stdin: ok so how long i have to wait to be unbaned?
[12:17] <rocco> buonasera a tutti
[12:17] <NickPresta> !it | rocco
[12:17] <ubotu> rocco: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:18] <rocco> buonasera a tutti
[12:18] <_2> and a great big howdy back at ya rocco
[12:18] <NickPresta> rocco, tipo /join #kubuntu-it
[12:19] <soulrider> !xorg
[12:19] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:20] <Tm_T> garfield: this is not a correct place to talk about bans, #ubuntu-ops thank you
[12:21] <VirtuoS> help with this now
[12:21] <VirtuoS> crystalclient.moc:133: error: 'KDecoration' has not been declared
[12:21] <VirtuoS> make[3] : *** [crystalclient.lo]  Error 1
[12:21] <VirtuoS> make[3] : Leaving directory `/home/virtuos/Desktop/crystal-1.0.5/client'
[12:21] <VirtuoS> make[2] : *** [all-recursive]  Error 1
[12:21] <NickPresta> !attitude | VirtuoS
[12:21] <ubotu> VirtuoS: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:21] <VirtuoS> make[2] : Leaving directory `/home/virtuos/Desktop/crystal-1.0.5/client'
[12:21] <VirtuoS> make[1] : *** [all-recursive]  Error 1
[12:21] <VirtuoS> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/virtuos/Desktop/crystal-1.0.5'
[12:21] <VirtuoS> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[12:21] <VirtuoS> virtuos@lokalna:~/Desktop/crystal-1.0.5$ cd ..
[12:21] <NickPresta> !pastebin | VirtuoS
[12:21] <ubotu> VirtuoS: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:23] <grul> jag blir fan sur
[12:26] <NickPresta> grul, what language?
[12:26] <BluesKaj> !se
[12:26] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[12:26] <NickPresta> oh. That works too.
[12:26] <BluesKaj> ya ya
[12:27] <BluesKaj> or is it ja ja :)
[12:27] <BluesKaj> i should know ...swedish was my native tobgue til i was 4yrsold
[12:27] <grul> NickPresta, sorry, wrong channel :p
[12:28] <hydrogen> or you could have just whois;'d!
[12:28] <BluesKaj> err tongue
[12:29] <BluesKaj> dthacker ,  I think it's just hunger :P
[12:29] <_2> maybe tac ?
[12:29] <[GuS] > guys... now in latest Tribe Dolphin is the default file browseR?
[12:30] <[GuS] > how do i change again to konqueror?
[12:30] <NickPresta> !gutsy
[12:30] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[12:30] <BluesKaj> file manager
[12:30] <[GuS] > ...
[12:30] <NickPresta> [GuS] , if no one knows in here (unlikely), check out #ubuntu+1
[12:31] <[GuS] > NickPresta: i am doing, thanks.
[12:31] <BluesKaj> tried gutsy tribe 4, dolphin was the file manager, konq was the browser
[12:31] <[GuS] > should be a more visible option to do this..
[12:32] <[GuS] > BluesKaj: not my case
[12:32] <[GuS] > justa after today updates
[12:32] <BluesKaj> ??
[12:32] <[GuS] > before TODAY, konqueror was my default file manager yet
[12:33] <_2> sudo update-alternatives x-www-broser      maybe
[12:33] <[GuS] > no, thats for web browser
[12:33] <ekrengel> whats the best jabber client for kde?
[12:33] <_2> oh you're on file man... well set that.
[12:34] <NickPresta> ekrengel, I like Pidgin/Gaim, but Konversation is neat too, I suppose
[12:34] <BluesKaj> file browser is dolphin afaik, konq is web browser
[12:34] <[GuS] > BluesKaj: again, konqueror (IN MY TRIBE 5) was the default file browser after recently updates....
[12:34] <emilsedgh_> ekrengel: maybe u wanna try Kopete.its the best and official KDE's IM client that supports jabber
[12:34] <ekrengel> yeh i have those actually
[12:35] <[GuS] > now Dolphin is, which suc** for me
[12:35] <ekrengel> i was a little confused on clientes
[12:35] <ekrengel> lol
[12:35] <NickPresta> ekrengel, sorry, Kopete, not Konversation (the latter is for IRC)
[12:35] <fester> How do I enable cookies in Konqueror?
[12:35] <ekrengel> i thought jabber was something different in itself
[12:35] <_2> fester they are by default
[12:35] <NickPresta> ekrengel, it's a protocol. Like the Oscar, MSN, etc protocols.
[12:36] <fester> _2 > not on mine.
[12:36] <emilsedgh_> fester: Tools->HTML Settings->Cookies :P
[12:36] <hydrogen> hmm
[12:36] <_2> fester in the konq menu configure
[12:36] <_2> fester they are by default. yes on all kde installations
[12:36] <emilsedgh_> fester: manage them by going to Settings->configure Konqueror
[12:36] <fester> _2> Thanks!!
[12:37] <NickPresta> split
[12:37] <BluesKaj> server bigtime splittsville here
[12:37] <NickPresta> yay
[12:37] <[GuS] > what tha hell?
[12:37] <_2> called a net split
[12:37] <[GuS] > split? sure?
[12:37] <[GuS] > i know what it is.
[12:37] <stdin> not a split
[12:38] <[GuS] > i was receiving CTCP
[12:38] <hydrogen> that wasn't a netsplit
[12:38] <ch40s> *split
[12:38] <hydrogen> that was spammers
[12:38] <[GuS] > thats not net split...
[12:38] <hydrogen> the quit message was excess flood
[12:38] <hydrogen> so you were replying to them all
[12:38] <hydrogen> too fast for the server
[12:38] <[GuS] > exactly
[12:38] <BluesKaj> solid on my server
[12:38] <hydrogen> and being flooded off
[12:38] <NickPresta> hydrogen, yeah. #kubuntu-offtopic just informed me :(
[12:38] <[GuS] > how i do disable CTCP on konversation?
[12:39] <stdin> [GuS] : just /mode [GuS]  +C
[12:39] <Nahi> hello i have kubuntu installed but i need to install windows how can i split my hdd again its only one partition
[12:39] <[GuS] > ok thanks