=== jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-221-92.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nekostar [n=starz@unaffiliated/starscalling] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:38] @_@ [12:41] Hey folks. [12:45] Hi TheMuso [12:47] hey if the second part of hte list in the topic [the last linky] is top ten updated packages - why is the number of them from 29 on down ? [12:47] i.e. what do those numbers designate? [12:47] Hey guys, who should I subscribe to ask for an exception to the NPF? [12:48] Amaranth: Umm... I'm not sure. I think he may have been. [12:48] RAOF: seems it works in GNOME [12:48] i dunno how that works [12:48] Amaranth: Awesome. You're trying it now? [12:48] no [12:48] RAOF, you see my notes on the bug earlier today? [12:49] report from someone else asking why the hell it wasn't working in KDE since it worked in GNOME [12:49] superm1_: No, I'm just looking at them now. [12:49] ah ok. [12:49] i seem to remember something about apps talking to gnome-panel instead of handling the messy xinerama stuff on their own === StevenK appears. [12:51] nekostar: The number is how many times that source package has been uploaded to gutsy. [12:53] superm1_: Thanks for the comments. [12:53] any idea where the JRE java sun license get's stored ? [12:53] RAOF, i am hitting something similar the update-notifier issue in a package, so it hit a little home. I'm uploading a debdiff later this evening === avoine [n=avoine@210.244-ppp.3menatwork.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:56] ... what happened to the line where I defined unud? Crazy me. === StevenK slaughters madduck, and uses his entrails to spell out a warning to those who step up to maintain mdadm. [01:01] superm1_: Any suggestions for the update-notifier text? I think I should point people to README.Debian. [01:02] RAOF, just something along the lines of "If you would like to disable Xgl for this user, do so so" [01:04] RAOF, do you have other information to tell them about in README.Debian? [01:04] or is that it === bigon_ [n=bigon@148.233-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:05] superm1_: There's a little more, but not much. I mention that you can run programs on :0 DISPLAY. [01:05] Wow. My laptop still has 2.6.12 installed. [01:06] StevenK: Ancient. [01:06] That's from... Hoary? [01:07] Breezy [01:07] StevenK: im amazed your profile survived that long [01:07] And it turns out it was just the initrd [01:07] Heh [01:07] I usually have to move my /home/%s out of the way, let ubuntu recreate it and then import stuff [01:08] GRAH, madduck! === superm1_ [n=malimonc@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:08] First it's complaining about an unchecked configuration file, *now* it bitches about no arrays! [01:09] RAOF, i think that most people would rather see that note sooner [01:09] rather than have to hunt in README.Debian [01:09] but that's just what i think :) [01:10] superm1_: So rather than point people to README.Debian, duplicate it in the notification? [01:11] RAOF well its a matter of opinion, so maybe ask some other MOTU folk what they thinjk [01:11] think even [01:11] RAOF: Given what I've just been spouting about madduck, pay attention. :-) [01:12] StevenK: At least this'll only happen once :) === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-126-069.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hoora88 [i=hoora@gateway/tor/x-aa839b110c3b0833] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:26] StevenK ah thanx === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:32] Why is xgl slow for intel users? Suse use Xgl-on-intel, and it works. [01:34] why would intel users use xgl? [01:34] why would anyone /me ducks [01:34] ajmitch: One of the compiz-fusion people uses it because it makes various shader effects work, and is faster. [01:35] interesting [01:35] And *I'd* use Xgl because it stops the nvidia drivers from being quite so bad. === StevenK looks for the tribe6 release notes. [01:36] RAOF: Did I mention I hate the warlock quests? :-) === ajmitch doesn't use compiz on nvidia due to liking WoW in a window :) [01:37] heh [01:37] StevenK: how's the levelling going? === RAOF wishes wine wouldn't hate Xgl so much. [01:37] I like playing a warlock - I have a tank that follows me around. :-) [01:37] ajmitch: I have a level 17 mage and a 20 warlock [01:38] nice [01:38] StevenK: I've never done any warlock quests. The mage quest I've done seemed to be "fight these 5 mele monkeys all at once" [01:38] Oh, and a 14 warlock, but she is being used in a group, and so everyone is 14 === ajmitch has a level 54 warrior [01:38] You've obviously been playing more WoW than me lately :) [01:38] RAOF: The last mage quest I completed was very cool - Go to the Blue Recluse, read this scroll, and subdue 3 of the things that appear [01:39] StevenK: horde, on a pvp server? [01:39] Which turned out to be very Ghostbusters [01:39] ajmitch: Alliance, on a PvE server [01:39] StevenK: Yup, that one. [01:39] StevenK: good [01:39] RAOF: You're reading the scroll in the wrong place. :-) [01:40] A little bit too close :) [01:40] my warrior is on a PVE server, but I also have a lowlevel horde warlock on frostmourne [01:40] RAOF: Read it in the basement, and the kitchen, both of those places have only one. [01:40] RAOF: The main room has 3, and upstairs has 2 [01:40] StevenK: Ah, I've got a slightly different quest then. === ajmitch is going to try & get the warrior ready for karazhan in the future [01:41] StevenK: Mine is the Horde version, in Undercity. [01:41] Ahhh [01:42] does your server nearly die & cause all sorts of problems at 8pm each day? [01:42] Yup [01:43] figures, I think it's the daily pvp honour calculations [01:43] I just love it when the server stops replying and all of a sudden my voidwalker stops moving. === ajmitch almost wrote php there [01:43] Almost? [01:44] yes, as in I typed php & then realised what horrors I was mentioning === StevenK makes a note to find a demon trainer tonight. [01:46] Then I can learn Sacrifice. === ajmitch makes a note to finish levelling to 55 tonight [01:47] 1 step closer to outland [01:49] plus I should upload f-spot tonight with some patches [01:49] may as well test it & get it into sid === bigon [n=bigon@213.219.161.188.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:53] Hm. Is there any documentaiton for the update-notifier format? [01:54] probably need to ask mvo, if there's none [01:54] have a look at /usr/share/firefox/firefox-restart-required.update-notifier at least [01:55] looks to mainly be a .desktop file [01:55] given things like Terminal: False [01:55] Ah, so maybe looking at the .desktop will help. [01:56] hm, no, it uses foo-lang, not foo[lang] [01:56] so you can probably ignore all I say === jdstrand_away [n=jamie@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdstrand [n=jamie@mail.strandboge.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === jdstrand_away [n=jamie@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === khermans [i=khermans@nat/cisco/x-df9d96c382210a3b] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:06] RAOF: don't have a ubuntu box handy atm.... do you start Xgl with -nolisten tcp? [02:06] RAOF: Xgl defaults to listening on TCP.... === jdstrand_away [n=jamie@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdstrand [n=jamie@mail.strandboge.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === jdstrand_away [n=jamie@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdstrand_away [n=jamie@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdstrand_away [n=jamie@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdstrand_away [n=jamie@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdstrand_away [n=jamie@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:35] jdong: No, I didn't. I'll add that to the default config. [02:35] jdong: Thanks. [02:36] np :) [02:36] RAOF: that fglrx thing is a bugger too... I'm gonna put some time into investigating why that's broken. [02:36] jdong: Oh, I know why it's broken, and I (think) have fixed it. [02:37] jdong: Basically, fglrx installs something in the session to set the DRI modules directory. We can't start Xgl before that, because we don't have 3d before it's set. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:38] So instead I've taken the other option; rather than starting Xgl at the bottom of Xsession.d, I add "Xgl-session" to the top of the STARTUP stack. [02:40] RAOF: good job [02:40] jdong: Care to check out the debdiff attached to bug #136962 - particularly the update-notifier text? [02:40] Launchpad bug 136962 in xserver-xgl "Session file left after uninstall breaks X" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136962 [02:40] Hobbsee: It's not uploaded yet, I merely know how to fix it :) [02:41] RAOF: no, at the motu ML [02:41] RAOF: that debdiff *looks* right, though I don't have a system to test it on atm [02:41] Hobbsee: Uuuum... === luis_lopez [n=luis@206-248-171-253.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:42] %INBOX.Ubuntu-universe-sponsors:106/106/6288 [02:42] Eeek [02:42] RAOF: stefan's mail, about being asked to add you to motu [02:42] StevenK: heh :P [02:42] RAOF: IIRC not even calling 10fglrx from 00xgl... helped... so there must be another intermediate script that enables DRI for fglrx. [02:42] jdong: Really I want comments on the text of the update-notifier bit. The rest is either right or kinda right & I know how to do it a better way. [02:42] RAOF: in the end I think at the end of the sesion is pretty great a solution === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:43] Hobbsee: Hm. I'm sure I'm subscribed to motu, but I don't seem to see that. [02:43] RAOF: the message looks good [02:47] jdong: If you've seen backscroll, I'm thinking of mentioning README.Debian & DISPLAY=:0. Thoughts on that? === _MMA_ [n=_MMA_@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:51] RAOF: IMO it's too much info to cram in a notifier.... === jml [n=jml@203-113-250-169-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] RAOF: is there a relative, up to date help.ubuntu.com page we can link to for more info? [02:51] jdong: That's what I was thinking. [02:51] IMO that's a better way of doing it, as there are more glitches with Xgl than we can list statically :D [02:51] Actually, no. Not really. [02:53] jdong: That would be a better way, yes. Are you volunteering to write such a page? :) [02:53] RAOF: lol, my free time is.... well classes start tomorrow :D [02:53] CompositeManager/XglTricks, or somesuch [02:53] Heh. [02:53] RAOF: but yeah , if I have time, I'd love to do that :D === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Frogzoo_ [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:09] jml, lifeless: We need to organise some combined WoW time :) [03:10] %INBOX.Ubuntu-universe-sponsors:106/106/6288 [03:10] Ooops. === StevenK lent on his middle mouse button. [03:10] Heh :) [03:15] RAOF: that we do. [03:15] RAOF: watch as I push the initiative token back to you === jml - Inertia Attack! === hoora88 [i=hoora@gateway/tor/x-4077655b91da08c9] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF sneaks 'round via jml's google calendar, and suggests... [03:19] jml, lifeless: Tonight? 8pm or so? [03:19] RAOF: works for me. === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] Heya gang === RAOF casts "compel answer" on lifeless [03:20] bddebian: Heya [03:21] Hi RAOF [03:21] RAOF: oh dear, lifeless isn't playing as well now, is he? :) [03:22] jml: btw, I have a horde warlock on frostmourne now that I just started :) [03:22] ajmitch: Since before me. [03:22] ajmitch: sweet. [03:22] ajmitch: Cool, you can join up with any number of our characters :) [03:22] A Horde Warlock from Frostmourne? [03:22] RAOF: Damn it, create a character on Dath-Remar. :-) [03:22] ajmitch: if you are online tonight, I'll hit you up for a signature. === RAOF likes to keep his characters on a single server, for ease of making stuff. [03:23] jml: sure, since I can't recall the character's name right now ;) [03:23] What the heck game are you guys talking about? [03:23] RAOF: you're on frostmourne as well? [03:24] ajmitch: I believe so. [03:24] bddebian: world of warcraft, of course [03:24] Pfft [03:24] Either that or Khaz [03:24] But I think it's frostmourne :) [03:24] hm, my warrior's on khaz'goroth (pve) [03:24] You need DDO or NWN, heck with WoW :-) [03:25] bddebian: Never got into NWN. It was totally obvious the dude was evil, and you're totally unable to change the railroad. [03:26] RAOF: +1 === zakame [i=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:26] RAOF: online play was fun though, when it worked. [03:26] RAOF: Huh? There are bazillions of modules you can download [03:26] jml: Wow. I'm amazed anyone managed to interpret that statement :) [03:27] RAOF: We've had the conversation before :) [03:28] bddebian: That's as may be. I just never got into them, since the game _as shipped_ was crap. [03:29] If you say so :-) [03:30] Frickin' pbuilder. WHere the heck is my logfile [03:30] What log file? [03:30] As is --logfile foo [03:30] s/is/in/ [03:32] bddebian: whereever you told it to go [03:32] Nope [03:32] bddebian: wherever the debs got put? === ajmitch just grabs the output & doesn't bother with --logfile usually [03:33] I don't either except for these stupid UVFes [03:34] by 'grabs the output', I mean that I pass it through tee to place the build log in the directory with the built packages [03:34] Ahh [03:34] Well --logfile used to work for me so I'm confused :'-( [03:35] Of course I'm also old and senile [03:35] ajmitch: Agreed, I do the same. === RAOF used to use --pkgname-logfile, which put them in the dir with the built debs [03:35] Although, if sbuild would give me a way to get a shell when a build fails, I think I'll be in love. [03:36] StevenK: That would be awesome. Man. [03:36] finally, looks like I may have a semi-reliable mbox-to-maildir conversion script [03:36] It can't be too hard to do that, surely. === RAOF wishes again for infinite time. [03:37] I've not checked yet, but it should be possible, since it uses LVM snapshots... [03:37] given that I appear to have some mangled From: headers in my mbox files === ajmitch might be able to convert his ubuntu bug mail to maildir [03:38] StevenK, RAOF, while I know sbuild doesn't allow you to be dropped to a shell if a build fails, its easy enough to chroot into a snapshot, and run the build by hand. [03:38] Thats what I do. [03:38] Yeah, it'd just be cooler to be automatically dropped into a shell with the failed build already run. [03:39] pbuilder does that for me. [03:39] If I have to run a command to get back into the build environment, that would be okay. [03:40] Fair enough, but I'm happy with how things are with sbuild/lvm snapshots atm. [03:40] I really am an idiot and should probably stop doing this stuff === `23meg [n=m@ubuntu/member/-23meg] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:42] bddebian: oh shut up :P [03:43] don't tempt me to fly over there & beat some sense into you [03:43] it'd be expensive [03:43] c'mon, c'mon.. :-) [03:47] I think bddebian just wants ajmitch to hold his hand ... === StevenK hides. === imbrandon wants pics [03:47] ummm i dident say that out loud did i ? [03:48] disturbing people [03:49] muahahahaha === avoine [n=avoine@210.244-ppp.3menatwork.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:52] RAOF: Have you seen superm1's comments on bug 136962? [03:52] Launchpad bug 136962 in xserver-xgl "Session file left after uninstall breaks X" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136962 [03:52] RAOF: If you are working on them, I'll unsubscribe uus for now. [03:52] TheMuso: Yes. I've addressed most of them locally, and I'm casting around for opinions as to the notifier text. [03:53] RAOF: Ok, will unsubscribe uus as stated. [03:53] TheMuso: Please do. I'll have something subscribable again this evening. [03:54] RAOF: Ok done. [03:54] Thanks. Care to offer comments about the update-notifier text? [03:55] RAOF: I dunno. As far as I understand the use of update-notify, its for notifying users of important changes/etc. [03:57] TheMuso: So just the "we start automatically, please don't try to start Xgl manually" text, in your opinion? [03:57] like "your system will explode if you do X, Y, & Z" [04:00] Heh. [04:01] Gah, bugs, FTBFs, etc, etc... [04:06] wow, things must have changed since i went to school [04:06] Hobbsee: Hum? [04:07] i wasnt aware that saying "i wont file any more sync requests" actually means "i fully intend to file sync requests, whenever i feel like it" [04:07] Frickin' wireshark takes too damn long to build [04:07] Hobbsee: Ah. [04:08] Hobbsee: Yay. /-:? [04:09] Hobbsee: My father used to say "You must have gone to a different school." for that sort of thing. :-) [04:09] lol === jmg stabs idiots who dont know svn === RAOF stabs idiots who force me to *use* svn === bddebian falls dead === pwnguin [n=jld5445@camaro.cis.ksu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK quite likes svn. === ajmitch prefers bzr [04:19] hello Hobbsee [04:19] hi. im not sure where else to ask this -- a debian developer has started the process of putting various games i had been looking at porting into debian. they're not in debian yet -- but the packages have been published in a non-traditional manner =/ [04:19] hi ajmitch [04:19] Hobbsee: would you be referring to one person in particular? [04:19] I quite like bzr too [04:19] pwnguin: A non-traditional manner? [04:19] ajmitch: quite possibly. [04:19] ajmitch: it does look sane, though [04:20] bddebian: just a http folder with .dsc, .deb, and tarballs [04:20] glancing at my email [04:20] Hobbsee: that's a change [04:20] yeah, he's even done a uvfe for it [04:20] which package is this for? [04:20] pwnguin: They are source packages. [04:21] StevenK: and binary packages [04:21] Er, yes. Sorry. [04:21] StevenK: but i need to change some stuff around to make it work on ubuntu === StevenK should get around to learning to read. [04:21] how to i apply a diff.gz? [04:22] pwnguin: dpkg-source -x .dsc, after you have downloaded the .dsc, .diff.gz and .orig.tar.gz [04:22] aha [04:22] Or, use dget [04:22] ajmitch: youtube something or other === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:22] youtube-dl [04:23] I think our hand might be forced, since it doesn't work at all, currently. [04:23] darn === ajmitch needs a UVFe for phpgroupware [04:24] Grr stupid wireshark === imtheface [n=andy@ubuntu/member/imtheface] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:40] What's preferred? Sync a debian revision from experimental or patch the existing package? [04:40] I would think sync so not to have the delta with Debian but I'm kinda dumb :-) [04:40] sync, probably [04:40] bddebian: I'd say if you sync from experimental, make sure you know why the maintainer uploaded to experimental and not to unstable. I've gotten burned by that before. [04:41] Hmm, how so? [04:41] Turned out there were some unresolved incompatibilities with another package. [04:41] I had a lot of fun patching that up. [04:44] does pbuilder not download from the net? [04:44] I even had to Tom Sawyer nixternal into doing some of it for me after I got stuck. [04:44] what did I do? [04:44] Helped me patch up python-scipy [04:44] oh [04:45] pwnguin: It should [04:45] I am stuck knee deep in some java code for a class project...all I have to do is add and 'update' and 'delete' feature to my program...and I am dead stuck [04:45] bddebian: it keeps telling me gdc-4.1 cant be installed =( [04:45] nixternal: nasty [04:45] ya [04:46] Random Access Files suck! [04:46] heh [04:46] pwnguin: check that you have universe enabled for pbuilder [04:46] Aye [04:46] nixternal: do it in python! [04:46] ajmitch: that sounds a likely culprit [04:46] ajmitch: if it was a python course I would :) [04:47] nixternal: find a class that lets you do python :) [04:47] you have to write a program that deletes itself? [04:47] haha [04:47] jython [04:47] problem solved [04:47] I wish all I had to do was write a program that deletes itself [04:47] hehe [04:48] if its any consolation, the d compiler doesn't even keep the same language between releases [04:48] causing lots of fun problems, like breaking openGL headers because ref is now a keyword [04:48] pwnguin: is it written in d? [04:48] ScottK: OK, files are there for the wireshark UVFe now :-) [04:48] this stupid program takes in a string and puts it into a char array, then if the string it took in isn't so many chars, it freakin' pads it with a " " until it reaches max size [04:48] I hate windows people! [04:48] ajmitch: the package im looking at, yes [04:48] pwnguin: I mean the compiler === ScottK looks [04:49] since self-hosting compilers are a pain to bootstrap [04:49] ajmitch: i dont think so [04:49] especially if they change *that* often [04:49] ajmitch: gdc is just a parser to pass off to gcc [04:49] right [04:50] nixternal: Java actually has a "string" class, right? Why are they making you mess with char arrays? [04:50] because the teacher has no clue what she is doing [04:50] nixternal: string.append() [04:50] she got mad when I told her the logic for this program doesn't make any sense [04:50] I asked if I could change the logic, and she said no [04:50] grr [04:51] nixternal: don't dare question a teacher. you're not meant to think [04:51] I don't want to append, I want to trim() :) [04:51] CompSci courses suck, in my (extremely bad) experience. [04:51] nixternal: that's there as well :P [04:51] dumbArray.toString().trim(...) [04:51] all trim does though is remove whitespace === Frogzoo_ [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:52] and substring() [04:52] bddebian: One ack from me. [04:53] RAOF: not universally [04:53] I mean the way this app reads and writes to a RAF is nuts... if (position - 2 * RECORD_SIZE > 0) readAddress(position - 2 * 2 * RECORD_SIZE) else this program sucks! [04:53] bddebian: I would ack, but I can't :) [04:53] im afraid i dont know that acronym [04:54] but introductory CompSci courses often suck ;) [04:54] we moved ours from java to python [04:56] nobody truly knows java until they have to write a java compiler =( === jml_ [n=jml@ppp121-44-221-92.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:58] noone wants to know java quite that well [04:58] ajmitch: is there a better guide to pbuilder than the manpage? [04:58] !pbuilder [04:58] pbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto [04:59] probably a few links on there === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:00] found what i needed on that [05:01] Jesus twin is broken [05:01] ajmitch: Why is that? [05:01] bddebian: because I'm not allowed to [05:01] Why? Did you expire? [05:02] well yes, I'm not in the uvf team === zakame [i=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:04] ajmitch: Ah, pfft :-) [05:09] heya everybody [05:10] Hi Toadstool [05:10] Wanna fix some more of my packages? :-) [05:10] hi bddebian! [05:11] nope, no time for that actually [05:11] :-) [05:11] i'm spending most of my time packing instead of packaging :) [05:11] Doh [05:11] I'm moving back to France next Thursday [05:12] Where are you living currently? [05:12] San Diego [05:12] Nice [05:12] Toadstool: where in SD? [05:12] Mira Mesa [05:12] And you wanna to back to France? WTF? ;-P [05:13] bddebian: wouldn't you? [05:13] I have to, gotta go back to school for at least 6 months [05:13] Not a chance in hell :-) [05:13] success [05:13] france > usa, sicko taught us that [05:13] OMG, twin is just plain borked [05:14] Hahaha [05:14] borked or horked? [05:14] That fat piece of shit thinks anywhere > usa [05:14] No definitions were found for borked. [05:14] StevenK, ajmitch: thanks for the pointers [05:14] now to convince matthew revell to approve my ppa =/ [05:15] jmg: Broken :-) [05:15] In a multitude of ways === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === porthose [n=charliej@24-119-101-247.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:18] I removed the bitops.h include, added a build-dep for libgtk1.2-dev and it's still broken.. [05:18] checking for gtk_init in -lgtk... yes [05:18] Usage: scripts/Makefiles.sh [05:18] make: *** [configure-stamp] Error 1 [05:19] bddebian: Did you like my ack for wireshark? [05:19] Ha [05:19] ScottK: Yes lovely, thanks :-) [05:20] Maybe StevenK feels similarly. [05:20] I'm looking now. [05:21] bddebian: Fix the diffstat [05:21] wireshark_0.99.6rel.orig.tar.gz |binary [05:21] 1 file changed [05:21] No :-) [05:22] Well that was a complete waste of my time :'-( [05:27] StevenK: OK, up [05:29] ruh roh - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+builds is empty. Idle CPU, panic! [05:30] I'll be fixing that soonish. [05:30] Hm. Anyone want to help me to debug why trackerd reproducibly segfaults about 15 min into indexing my stuff? The apport retrace is useless, when I ran trackerd under gdb I got a backtrace consisting of 80 ?? () in ??s, and valgrind SIGILLs when run against it. Anything else I can try? [05:30] Yay :) [05:30] Wow. [05:31] RAOF: strace? [05:32] pwnguin: Hm. Good plan. [05:32] you might want to gook up a filter [05:32] That's going to produce a gigabyte log or something :) [05:32] 15 minutes of disk io [05:32] gook or cook? [05:32] cook [05:32] RAOF: do the Right Thing & purge tracker :) [05:32] ive not yet mastered typing on one elevated leg [05:33] ajmitch: But I actually quite like integrated search. When it works [05:33] I actually like being able to login & have a useful box [05:33] call your vendor === krisx [n=krisx@209.81.109.116] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:36] i my lions and tigers and linux bears [05:36] hm [05:37] so this place is basically packagers and packaging training? [05:37] and universe maintenence, yes [05:37] huh [05:37] i guess im not good enough for that yet. any mind to me idling a while? [05:37] no [05:37] o and sup Hobbsee ^^ [05:38] <<-- nekostar/starscalling/pimp31415/databuddy/etc [05:38] ahhh [05:38] masterloki is my newb roomate :> === StevenK downloads 250Mb of sources. [05:39] lol [05:39] StevenK: you say that like its a lot === ajmitch converts and splits an overlarge mbox file [05:39] i wanna be a motu even tho i can't carry a thought or spell lol how do i start [05:39] nothing like grabbing 200MB of sources to make a 2MB package eh [05:40]