[01:15] but that is for another day, methinks [01:15] okay sounds good :) [01:15] did you update the download links too? [01:15] no [01:16] okay well i've gotta run [01:16] i'll be back in a few hours [01:16] so i'll probably catch you tomorrow === dfear [n=dfear@82-46-27-208.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === ian_001 [n=ian@ool-457d7cbf.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:52] im trying to add vnc to the latest mythbuntu and wondered if i had to enable xdmcp? [01:55] ian001, i dont see why you would [01:57] ian_001 ^^ [02:04] sorry i ran back to that machine to play with it [02:04] here's hoping i got it right! [02:06] ian_001: sorry i need to go [02:06] tgm4883: can you test the links before i go? [02:06] (the ones on the main site, should auto redirect) [02:06] yea, what links? [02:06] ah [02:06] sec [02:07] yep, sends me to us-ca.cd..... [02:07] click again? [02:07] same [02:07] there are currently two US mirrors [02:08] and US people should get spread over the two [02:08] ok, after a few clicks it sent me to texas [02:08] sure that was the same? [02:08] cool [02:08] yea one is us-tx [02:08] Well i'm pleased with that [02:09] time for bed methinks [02:09] nn [02:09] night === foxbuntu [n=nfoxqci@12-216-16-102.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:17] foxbuntu: You just caught be.. when do you think your mirror will be active? [02:17] s/be/me === tlunde [n=tlunde@tlunde.dsl.visi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === frank__ [n=frank@CPE000d88f1925d-CM000a73668bc0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:31] I have mythtv running on a separate screen. (DISPLAY=:0.1) how can I prevent the KDE taskbar from appearing on that screen? === TelnetManta [n=benwilli@71-12-14-250.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === tlunde [n=tlunde@tlunde.dsl.visi.com] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-57-89.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === foxbuntu [n=nfoxqci@12-216-16-102.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:52] for anyone intrested...amazing new technology (sorry for the office topic note) http://www.break.com/index/134-gigapixel-camera.html <13.4 GIGAPixel Camera> === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:17] tgm4883_laptop, evening [04:17] foxbuntu, whats happening [04:18] not much...got the GTK theme fixed [04:18] sweet [04:19] it was a little hard on the eyes before [04:20] yea [04:20] I dropped that theme and started over with the Clearlooks engine [04:21] and I am using MythStream for the first time tonight [04:21] and I do have to say I like it [04:21] :) [04:21] been a few days of mind opening experiences [04:22] i'll have to use that apple trailer thing when I get mythbuntu installed on my production machine [04:22] that isn't done yet, I missed the code freezze [04:22] that isn't done yet, I missed the code freeze [04:22] so it won't be part of the Mythbuntu Public release until gutsy+1 [04:23] I still think we should stick it in the PPA [04:23] I think I will try for that [04:24] that way, 1. If we find a way to activate that easily from the control centre then it is already in there [04:24] I have a goal after I learn the packaging stuff I am going to look into working with these unoffical add-ins [04:24] and 2. People can still activate that repo manually [04:24] ah [04:24] so you plan on packaging more unofficial plugins [04:24] yea [04:25] i have a list for you then === dfear [n=dfear@82-46-27-208.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:25] I am a gulton for punishment so I will test on my own machine and see how it goes for them [04:25] email em over to me to look at [04:25] sec [04:25] PM with addy [04:29] i am having problems with the latest iso (alpha 4) - when the cd finishes loading up, all i see is a blank screen. i know the desktop has loaded because i can see it briefly when i press ctrl-alt-f1 then ctrl-alt-f7. how can i fix this prob? [04:30] i am having problems with the latest iso (alpha 4) - when the cd finishes loading up, all i see is a blank screen. i know the desktop has loaded because i can see it briefly see ity when i press ctrl-alt-f1 then ctrl-alt-f7. how can i fix this prob? === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:32] thank tgm4883_laptop [04:32] those were the ones I was looking at, alot are no longer in dev [04:33] ok [04:34] tgm4883_laptop, wow that streamTV one sounds scary [04:34] yea, but i think it would be a pretty cool one [04:34] but I will sure look into that it sounds like a great idea [04:36] Im not sure what benifit would be gained by having an RSS feed of your recordings...can you explain? [04:38] the extender has alot of potential, I was actually talking about something similar with someone thinking of building a MythTV [04:38] Well, for I, it probably wouldn't help that much. But for someone who has the keyword recordings then it would show what they have recorded [04:39] hmm [04:39] ok, I will look into it anyhow [04:39] I really want to add this Recording extender to the top of my list [04:40] I was thinking of using it for just the oppisite purpose it was designed as well [04:40] watching for programs running long to automatically adjust the recordings so that you always have the right time slots [04:41] and then for sport events using it as designed [04:45] foxbuntu, I don't know how well that would work [04:45] currently it checks some website to see if it is running long [04:45] oh is that all it does? [04:46] thats suxor [04:46] I was still looking at it [04:47] oh I see..it just polls espn.com to find out if the event is still running its not looking at the TV [04:47] damn [04:47] yea, I'm not sure how you could adapt that [04:48] yea...I don't know enough about CommFlagging otherwise I am sure that would produce results in that area [04:49] because I would bet to say there is a start and stop flag on a program so you could be polling for the program info [04:49] but thats still not a great way to do it either [04:50] the problem with that is that the commflagg is always behind live tv [04:50] right [04:50] you would have to be inside the tuner buffer [04:51] I wonder what info is tagged on TV shows these days and how you would poll it [05:00] tgm4883_laptop, I really don't need a project like this :P [05:10] foxbuntu, this is def still a blue bar [05:10] by default [05:11] and a bright blue tint as accents to tabs [05:11] superm1_, I made it a little darker than the default and made the other colors darker [05:11] well the background color is darker yes [05:11] but i mean the blue bar on top [05:11] its bright blue defaults [05:11] ok you want the active bar color darker then? [05:12] well i just think it clashes right now [05:12] ok [05:12] gimp me a color you like [05:12] i dont have a colour in mind [05:12] just something that doesnt clash like that [05:12] geez [05:12] lol [05:12] alright...I will look at it again [05:13] does everything else look alright? [05:13] i'm commiting a change with a few other small things [05:13] k [05:13] I mean colorwise though [05:13] well i mean its that same blue used throughout [05:14] as long as you pick a color that doesnt clash with the grey background, the grey can work [05:14] ok... [05:14] yea its set for all active selections [05:14] hows Pink strike ya? [05:15] well if you get a shade that looks good that's fine [05:15] good luck finding such shade [05:15] superm1_, great help as always [05:15] :) [05:15] i try [05:15] you know what [05:15] its just a week of new things [05:15] I really like MythStream and didn't think I would [05:16] i haven't used it much myself yet [05:16] i got it running right now tv off [05:17] superm1_, I was gonna ask you if you knew anything about how commflaging actually works and how they poll the flags to check the program data [05:17] poll what flags? [05:18] the commercial flags [05:18] there is nothing polled [05:18] its all detected [05:18] hmm ok [05:18] there are like 4-6 methods [05:18] black frame [05:18] aspect ratio [05:18] network logo [05:18] and others i can't think of off hand [05:19] I was hoping there was a documented method of reading the metadata in the shows [05:19] there is no such metadata [05:19] oh [05:19] that tells you where commercials are [05:19] if there was, commercial detection would be perfect [05:19] well I was looking for for data about what program is currently running [05:19] other than the guide [05:20] you mean whats supplied by schedules direct? [05:20] right [05:20] i dont know much about the format that is provided in [05:20] I want data from liveTV [05:21] I assume its there for data protection purposes and I figure a use for it if I can read it somehow === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-57-89.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:21] there is no data provided from live tv [05:22] i'm assuming you are meaning the digital data provided to cable company boxes [05:22] because nothing is broadcast in the tv stream on cable [05:22] over the air there is EIT data [05:22] hmm [05:22] damn ok [05:22] I figured as much but was hoping for more [05:23] well if you switch to OTA [05:23] you can [05:23] but you dont get as much data as you would with schedules direct [05:23] you'll get 1-5 days [05:23] whereas SD will get you 14 [05:24] no I was looking for something that will start watching a program previous to the one you want like 2 mins before its supposed to end and if the title doesn't change to the right prgram it doesn't start recording until it does [05:25] i.e a football runs long on Hero's night and Heros gets bumped by a few minutes which would in fact drop the last few mins of Heros right [05:26] I was thinking about an auto bump so the recording show sits right [05:26] oh [05:26] there has been discussion about something like that [05:27] but the live data isn't updated in the EIT data [05:27] so the only way it can be detected is heuristically [05:28] yea..which isn't a great way of doing it either [05:29] eh...it was just a thought [05:29] MythTV really puts Tivo to shame [05:29] I mean I look at my parents DVR from DirectTV and I can't stand that thing === alpaca [n=alpaca@75.110.203.45] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [05:30] superm1_, did you already commit so I can pull and commit? [05:30] rev 11 right? [05:31] yes [05:33] I just pushed it up [05:33] you should like it much better now [05:36] yea for the most part better [05:36] i dont know if its still something i'd like to call final [05:36] but better enough for now [05:36] oh its not final [05:37] its a steping stone to the day it all gets wrote over again to match the new theme troy_s and I are working on [05:37] certianly cleaner than the last build [05:41] superm1_, is there anything else in there you really don't like that you want me to change before we release this version? [05:41] nothing that i can imm see that sticks out [05:42] is it good for you? [05:42] I am happy with it [05:42] fits pretty well around your favorite gothic theme [05:42] :) [05:43] okay well i'll push it up then [05:43] awesome [05:45] I wonder if a theme engine like clearlooks will fix your tv problem [05:45] I know its a DBI thing...but just a curiousty thing [05:45] DPI [05:46] DPI...DBI...DVI...they are all the same...like at BBY when someone asks u if it has SUB or UBS [05:46] wait...er thats USB [05:46] lol [05:47] anywho [05:47] sorry bad topic [05:50] superm1_, anyways glad to finally have that GTK thing done and just let me know where else I can help [05:51] foxbuntu, well that bug on mythbuntu-lirc-generator [05:51] oh the Y and C buttons? [05:52] hmm [05:52] yeah...I never got feed back on it [05:53] well also adding REPEAT support to mythbuntu-lirc-generator [05:53] repeat? [05:53] yea laga filed a bug on it [05:53] I only see two bugs on launchpad [05:53] foxbuntu, here you go. https://launchpad.net/~nickj-fox/+packages [06:00] thanks [06:01] I guess I will have to find out what those buttons are called on my own [06:01] since the bug poster didn't leave any info on the remote he is using [06:01] :P [06:02] laga, you there? [06:02] superm1_, I don't see anything about REPEAT support in these bugs [06:03] well laga mentioned it here [06:03] they might be filed against the source package in ubuntu [06:03] not mythbuntu [06:03] dunno [06:04] oh [06:04] well I just sent him a note about he remote info so I can track it down [06:05] i want to say it was just to add a --repeat NUM [06:05] option [06:05] that will automatically set that repeat value to all of the keys [06:05] if your entire remote is overly sensitive [06:05] ok [06:05] well I will look at that one too [06:06] I mean my remote doesn't have the input and Y key he is talking about...so I need a remote to reference off of [06:06] I don't remember running across those keys either...however I wasn't looking for them === CBiLL [n=nutty@adsl-68-89-1-111.dsl.spfdmo.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:31] cool alpha4 is out [06:32] CBiLL, ya [06:32] something not noted on the release notes for it, proprietary graphics detection crashes some boxes [06:32] still under investigation [06:33] hrmm [06:33] gonna go try it but Ill let you know if it crashes mine [06:33] if it does, just skip that step [06:33] and you can do it after install [06:33] but yea more notes for the bug to help track it down would be very good [06:33] ok [06:34] nice [06:34] so I can click something and it turn into a desktop if I need to use it as a desktop? [06:35] should be able to [06:40] New bug: #126781 in mythtv (multiverse) "myth-tv failed to upgrade properly on distribution upgrade" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126781 === grndslm [n=grndslm@24-116-87-97.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === grndslm_ [n=grndslm@24-116-87-97.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jumpkick [n=GED@bas2-toronto47-1242399214.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:45] New bug: #130568 in mythbuntu "nvidia-auto-select should be removed from xorg.conf for analog HD (720p/1080i) over component" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130568 === muckngrind [n=derek@ppp-70-129-57-176.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [08:00] Hello all [08:00] Having problems with control center [08:01] I'm trying to get the log redirected to a text file but it isn't working. [08:01] anyone have ideas? [08:02] which log? [08:02] Just the standard output. I tried launching using > but it didn't redirect to the file [08:03] well it doesnt output much to standard output in the first place [08:03] I see errors, but my tv isn't displaying clearly [08:03] so I thought I'd try to catch them.... [08:03] well let me grab you the way to launch it to catch them [08:03] sudo /usr/share/mythbuntu-control-centre/bin/mythbuntu-control-centre [08:04] and hopefully errors should get caught to stdout then [08:04] yea, I get them to stdout, but can't read them. Can I redirect that to a file? [08:04] that you should be able to redirect, but they might be coming to stderr [08:04] and thats why you havent been able to catch them [08:05] in which case you may want to do it like this [08:05] sudo /usr/share/mythbuntu-control-centre/bin/mythbuntu-control-centre 2>&1 | tee log.out [08:05] Didn't think about stderr. I'm sure that's it. [08:05] that will force all of stderr into stdout, and then tee it off to stdout and the log file [08:05] I'll give it a run. [08:05] thanks [08:05] what were you doing when it crashed? [08:06] It's not crashing, but it won't apply settings. [08:06] I change settings, and press Apply, but nothing happens. [08:06] Was trying to change auto login [08:07] someone else was saying something went wrong with auto login too. [08:07] i'd like to see what the issue is here, in my VMs it's worked out as expected, as well as on my dev laptop [08:07] if you are talking about on he answers page, that was me [08:08] I can see errors in the teminal, but my tv res is too poor to read them [08:08] it may have been the answers page, maybe a bug, maybe here. it all merges in my mind [08:08] :) [08:08] I'm hoping to catch them and submit a bug [08:08] I understand [08:08] yea that'd be great. [08:09] I'll get back to you when I get something. [08:09] thanks [08:15] New bug: #137451 in mythbuntu "lcdproc should be installed by default and configured if a VFD display is selected at remote selections" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137451 [08:30] New bug: #134028 in mythbuntu "modify /usr/share/startmythtv.sh to check for & run user command file (ala .xsession)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134028 [08:31] morning [08:32] mornin [08:32] thanks, mario. That worked. [08:33] muckngrind, you got some output this time around? :) [08:33] yes. Submited bug. [08:33] Last line is [08:33] ConfigParser.NoOptionError: No option 'autologin' in section: 'mythbuntu' [08:34] hm, okay [08:34] can you attach your gdm config files too [08:34] from /etc/gdm [08:34] yep [08:35] ah that would likely have been why i couldn't reproduce this, i haven't tried from a machine that was setup with the 'mythtv' user initially as the autologiner, just had a few pieces of code for what should have worked. [08:38] You want all the conf files? [08:39] yes [08:39] *gdm*conf [08:39] because some of them override others [08:39] ok. [08:40] New bug: #30593 in mythtv "Errors with MySQL 5.0" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30593 [08:40] New bug: #137452 in mythbuntu "Can't change auto login in Control Center" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137452 [08:42] uploaded 4 files [08:42] okay great thanks [08:42] should be able to nail this one now :) [08:43] glad to help. Let me know if you need anything else. [08:43] well let me just make sure i understand right, it crashes every time now upon starting [08:44] upon applying i mean [08:44] even if you dont change autologin now [08:44] not sure I'd call it a crash. nothing happens when I press apply [08:45] doesn't matter if I'm changing auto login or something else [08:45] well except all that is spit to stderr [08:45] correct [08:45] i tried setting up nfs and same error [08:45] this user, dchriste, is it correctly spelled? [08:45] yep [08:46] okay i'll investigate this this week [08:46] i'll leave some notes on the bug once i figure it out [08:46] i've gotta get to bed now though :) [08:46] ok. i'll keep an eye on it. [08:46] thanks [08:46] nn === hugol1 [n=tu@217.168.3.246] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MythbuntuGuest46 [n=Mythbunt@surfers-03.dns-sweden.se] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:19] ok. i need to create a new team and not a new project to make a new ppa ;) [11:23] laga: cool [11:24] laga: can you do me a favour and attempt to dl the ISO or MD5SUM, from the link on the main site? [11:24] which mirror? [11:25] there is only one :) [11:25] USA,CA or USA,TX? [11:25] huh/1 [11:25] oh [11:25] i'll stfu [11:25] on the main page, not the d/l page [11:25] yes.. didn't realise about the d/l page [11:25] cool [11:25] works [11:26] You are in Germany :) [11:26] i'm redirected to http://us-ca.cdimages.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu-7.10~070830-i386.iso [11:26] Daviey: ORLY ;) [11:26] erm [11:26] no you were not [11:26] redirected to http://us-ca.cdimages.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu-7.10~070830-i386.isoi386.iso.md5sum [11:26] :) [11:27] tx mirror is much faster for me [11:27] 1.12M/s [11:27] Currently it's set up for US people to get a random US mirror, UK people to get UK mirror and rest of the world is random of all three [11:27] what about the UK mirror? [11:28] us-ca = dreamhost shared hosting :/ [11:35] 400k [11:35] or so [11:35] thats better than i get from there! [11:36] and it's my bleedin account :( [11:36] heh [11:37] meandering between 400 and 700 or so [11:38] i get 70k :o [11:39] heh [12:04] gnaaa. [12:05] i wanna upload the trunk packages to the ppa. dpkg-source -b doesn't produce a .changes file, though === huby [n=hubi@pD9E1FBFD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === huby [n=hubi@pD9E1FBFD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Kopete] === huby [n=hubi@pD9E1FBFD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === huby [n=hubi@pD9E1FBFD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Kopete] === huby [n=hubi@pD9E1FBFD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === huby [n=hubi@pD9E1FBFD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Kopete] [12:33] Successfully uploaded packages. [12:35] woo [12:35] laga: gets a prize [12:35] cake for all! [12:35] for being *super* [12:36] suck-up. ;) [12:36] i wonder when those packages will show up [12:37] sod that, i just like cake [12:37] heh [12:38] i've managed to port my website from tables, html 4, and a home-grown php backend ported hastily from a home-grown jsp backend... to css and wordpress \o/ [12:38] nice === monkeyBox [n=ben@cpe-76-184-220-233.tx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:43] "No Currently building builds for Personal Package Archive for Mythbuntu experimental." [12:43] bah [12:43] i demand my packages to be built immediately [12:43] Does mythbuntu have kernel support for the PCHDTV 5500? [12:43] I'm getting sick and tired of gentoo and am ready to switch over [12:43] monkeyBox: if it works in normal ubuntu, it should work in mythbuntu as well [12:44] laga, that's what I'm not sure about. I'm using Gentoo right now. [12:44] monkeyBox: you might want to exercise google then [12:44] monkeyBox: Try the livecd :O [12:44] or search the mythtv mailing list [12:44] oh, that's a good idea, too [12:44] looks like a cx88 card [12:45] laga: that helps b/c I can look in the ubuntu support sites [12:46] ok, found a site where a guy's got it running in ubuntu. That's all I need for proof ;) [12:47] heh [12:47] I've already switched my laptop and my work computer over to ubuntu, now it's time for my myth box :) === temba [i=tem@e177163224.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === laga prepares some theme builds [01:03] themes? [01:04] yup [01:04] myththemes/ and themes/ from trunk [01:10] ah, this is for your trunk build? [01:10] yes === bendailey [n=bendaile@mail.bhmsd.k12.in.us] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:42] good morning [01:42] morning [01:43] do you know why the mirrors for taken of the mythbuntu.org? [01:44] english. do you speak it? [01:44] yeah sorry it is too early [01:45] ;) [01:45] do you know why the mirrors were taken off of mythbuntu.org [01:45]