=== poolie [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [12:56] New bug: #137637 in soyuz "Activated PPA does not exist according to build error" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137637 === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-118-022.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad === EdwinGrubbs- is now known as EdwinGrubbs === kblin [i=nowhere@worldforge.de] has joined #launchpad === kblin [i=nowhere@worldforge.de] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-134-247.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad [01:30] Goooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! [01:30] New bug: #137649 in soyuz "PPA should allow upload of Debian packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137649 [01:47] morning mpt === poolie [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [02:10] New bug: #137655 in launchpad-bazaar "Cannot delete a branch that has revisions" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137655 [02:10] New bug: #137658 in launchpad-bazaar "Branch deletion does not check for related merge proposals" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137658 === oojah [n=roger@cpc1-nott6-0-0-cust436.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #launchpad === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-20-34.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === jamesh [n=james@canonical/launchpad/jamesh] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@tetkyo100114.tkyo.te.ftth2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #launchpad === _keturn [n=acapnoti@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/keturn] has joined #launchpad [02:45] <_keturn> how do I get an external bug tracker added to my launchpad project? [02:49] _keturn: you can register one here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/+newbugtracker [02:53] I'm looking for a good model of how to package a simple python program for my ppa - any recommendations for a package to use as a template? [02:55] New bug: #137661 in soyuz "PPA rejection message suggests you reply to no_reply@launchpad.net" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137661 === jml_ [n=jml@203-113-250-169-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #launchpad [02:57] <_keturn> jamesh: that worked, thanks. [02:58] _keturn: you can then link the new bug tracker to your product on the product's "change details" form. [03:00] <_keturn> yep, got it. does it do anything fancy involving import/export, or is that link just to make links easier? [03:03] _keturn: I seem to remember packaging links and bug tracker links being used when forwarding distro bugs upstream [03:03] so it is useful information to record [03:21] do the ppa's have universe enabled? [03:22] pwnguin: if you use Section: universe/foo in debian/control === Hobbsee whines at matt revell on the mailing list [03:53] please people, do not use "today" and "tomorrow", etc, for anything of importance. [03:54] or $randomDayOfTheWeek [03:54] no, wait, day of the week is ok [03:54] as long as you specify timezone, or default to utc === jml_ [n=jml@203-113-250-169-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #launchpad === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #launchpad === jamesh_ [n=james@canonical/launchpad/jamesh] has joined #launchpad === ion [n=ion@70-58-119-250.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #launchpad === vlug [n=irc@147.80-202-51.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad === lamont` [n=lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #launchpad === jml_ [n=jml@ppp121-44-221-92.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [05:52] Is PPA pretty bogged right now? I uploaded source several hours ago and it still hasn't appeared anywhere. [05:52] Is there any way to see what the overall PPA queue looks like to try to estimate how long a build will take? [05:54] it wasnt too bogged down when i used it a few hours ago [05:54] what's your lp name/ [05:54] jkakar? [05:54] yep === mayeco [n=mayeco@201.218.123.111] has joined #launchpad === Petosiris [n=irc@147.80-202-51.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad === Petosiris is now known as Prognatus [07:34] Hobbsee: heh [07:34] Hobbsee: I love poking fun at 'this summer we will XXXX' mails on lists. [07:35] lifeless: ah yes :) [07:35] lifeless: what's even more fun is when you actually dont know if htey have converted it into summer time [07:37] nice === Petosiris [n=irc@147.80-202-51.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad === Odd_Bloke wants to see a mouse on Red Bull. [08:20] New bug: #137687 in malone ""apport" automatic bug-reporting system doesn't (apparently) let you see what it reports to launchpad" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137687 === \sh_away is now known as \sh [08:34] Does PPA try to do anything weird if you say, upload too many sets of signed sources too fast. My test uploads are occassionally mysteriously vanishing. [08:35] I'll wait a while (like 2h) and then, out of desperation will try again, and all of a sudden I get the "Accepted blah blah" e-mail within minutes. === allenap [n=allenap@212.233.37.68] has joined #launchpad === gmb [n=gmb@i-83-67-5-113.freedom2surf.net] has joined #launchpad === poolie [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #launchpad [08:59] morning === Prognatus_ [n=irc@147.80-202-51.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad === Prognatus_ is now known as Prognatus === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === danilo_ [n=danilo@adsl-236-193.eunet.yu] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@mue-88-130-67-037.dsl.tropolys.de] has joined #launchpad === gouki_ [n=gouki@ubuntu/member/gouki] has joined #launchpad === kiko_ [n=kiko@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === kompressor [n=kompress@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #launchpad === gouki_ is now known as gouki === intellectronica [n=intellec@host86-139-53-135.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #launchpad === huats [n=huats@194.98.120.3] has joined #launchpad [10:11] I have some difficulties to use ppa to build an ubuntu package.... it keeps rejecting my _source.changes Reasons : === mrevell [n=matthew@canonical/launchpad/mrevell] has joined #launchpad [10:12] - Unable to find flightgear_0.9.10.orig.tar.gz in upload or distribution. (with flightgear being the package I am trying to build) [10:12] - Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification. [10:12] - PPA is only allowed for members of launchpad-beta-testers team. [10:12] does anybody has an idea ? === mrevell_ [n=matthew@82-47-122-108.cable.ubr05.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === bigjools [n=ed@canonical/launchpad/bigjools] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [i=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad [10:31] does anybody can help me a bit with the building of a package on ppa ? === AlexLatchford_ [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === schwuk [n=dave@ubuntu/member/schwuk] has joined #launchpad [10:50] huats: what's the metter? [10:51] t keeps rejecting my _source.changes Reasons : [10:51] - Unable to find flightgear_0.9.10.orig.tar.gz in upload or distribution. (with flightgear being the package I am trying to build) [10:51] - Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification. [10:51] - PPA is only allowed for members of launchpad-beta-testers team. [10:52] and of course, there isthe orig.tar.gz, and I am part of the members of the team [10:59] hum [10:59] are you also uploading the orig.tar.gz? [10:59] I don't know [10:59] make sure it's listed in the .changes [11:00] may be I am doing something wrong when I create the .changes [11:00] it is done right now by debuild -S [11:00] just take a look in there [11:00] is it the right method ? [11:01] huats: is the orig.tar.gz listed in your .changes file or not? [11:01] I am ahving a look [11:01] nope [11:01] it is not [11:02] huats: then you can debuild -S -sa [11:02] that should work [11:03] ok [11:03] it is now indeed [11:04] will it solve the ppa team membered pb too ? [11:05] tbh: i dunno. [11:05] just got onn the team myself the other day [11:05] what's your launchpad user name, btw? [11:06] christophe-sauthier [11:07] you are on launchad beta testers, indeed [11:07] have you set up an opengpg key? [11:07] are you signing the packages with said key? [11:08] yep [11:08] I am signing it [11:08] is your .dput.cf correct? are you uploading to the right location? [11:08] I think so [11:08] I will recheck === intellectronica [n=intellec@host86-139-53-135.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #launchpad === jsk [n=jonathan@client-86-27-168-83.popl.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #launchpad [11:34] laga: I've found a mismatch between my .dput.cf and the quick start [11:34] I'll check again [11:42] laga: Ok, now it seems to work [11:43] I've received an email saying : Accepted flightgear 0.9.10-2ubuntu2 (source) [11:43] great [11:43] but I cannot find any trace on my ppa page [11:43] what was different, btw? [11:43] is it normal ? [11:44] it takes some time [11:44] oh : the location of the fqdn [11:44] heh [11:45] oh : it has been dogfood and now ppa.launchpad.net [11:45] yeah, dogfood was some testing system [11:45] I don't know where did I found the dogfood think [11:45] ok [11:46] laga: so it is normal that I cannot find it on currently building or even the "All states" [11:46] ? [11:51] yup [11:51] you should be OK if it's accepted [11:51] just wait some time [11:51] i upload mine like 30 or 60 minutes ago and it's still not showing up there === bigjools-afk [n=ed@82.153.21.238] has joined #launchpad === bigjools-afk is now known as bigjools [11:54] ok [11:54] thanks === fernando1 [i=fernando@gateway/tor/x-8fcab29ba46b550b] has joined #launchpad [11:54] really thanks for your precious help [11:56] no problem [11:56] PPA is a great toy === \sh is now known as \sh_away [11:56] i just wish my builds would show up quicker ;) [12:15] yay, my build has just started === \sh_away is now known as \sh === `23meg [n=m@ubuntu/member/-23meg] has joined #launchpad === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-44-139.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #launchpad === doko_ is now known as doko === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #launchpad === Spads [i=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@mue-88-130-93-034.dsl.tropolys.de] has joined #launchpad [01:20] New bug: #137731 in malone "Milestone bug list should show security and private icons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137731 [01:29] bigjools (or anyone) [01:29] do you know what the PPA buildds are called? [01:29] I'm afraid not [01:31] promethium and samarium, kiko? [01:31] https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu-trunk/+archive/+build/384648 [01:31] ^^ what's a build score? === fabbione [n=fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #launchpad [01:32] laga: It has an undocumented initial value, and increases gradually over time, and determines in what order things get built. [01:32] ah, nice [01:34] Fujitsu, thanks! [01:34] kiko_: nop [01:34] s/o// [01:34] Stupid stupid lag. [01:35] 2 hours to build mono? wow [01:35] Sounds fairly plausible. === kiko_ is now known as kiko [01:52] kiko: Bug #136390 is about the PPA buildds being made obvious. [01:52] Launchpad bug 136390 in soyuz "(Non-)PPA builders are not easily distinguishable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136390 === dneary [n=dneary@mne69-9-88-163-116-163.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === salgado [n=salgado@canonical/launchpad/salgado] has joined #launchpad [02:00] Fujitsu, you report great bugs. [02:00] Or not. [02:01] the ones I've seen are great [02:01] and contain all the information necessary to triage [02:01] I am impressed. Thanks. === ddaa [n=david@canonical/launchpad/ddaa] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200-103-134-216.ctame705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@mue-88-130-100-051.dsl.tropolys.de] has joined #launchpad === matsubara [n=matsubar@canonical/launchpad/matsubara] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #launchpad === deadwill [n=deadwill@146037.fln.virtua.com.br] has joined #launchpad === OgMaciel [n=omaciel@foresight/developer/OgMaciel] has joined #launchpad === jtv [n=jtv@125-24-84-207.adsl.totbb.net] has joined #launchpad === radhios [n=radhios@unaffiliated/radhios] has joined #launchpad === carlos -> lunch [02:54] <\sh> can someone explain this mail I received 5 mins ago? [02:54] <\sh> 12:48:03 DEBUG ion3-mod-xinerama: (binary) NEW [02:54] <\sh> 12:48:03 DEBUG No signer, therefore ACL not processed [02:54] <\sh> 12:48:03 ERROR Unhandled exception processing upload [02:54] <\sh> -> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9148304/tdF6g6vb0mSWPHiFqiKHU6uGSaQ.txt (Duplicated ancestry) [02:54] <\sh> 12:48:03 WARNING Upload was rejected: [02:54] <\sh> 12:48:03 WARNING Unhandled exception processing upload: Duplicated ancestry [02:54] \sh, wow, that's a really interesting bug. :) [02:54] <\sh> kiko, well, it's in universe , and hopefully not new ;) [02:55] <\sh> kiko, and only ppc arch [02:55] <\sh> -ENOTMYFAULT ;9 [02:55] I think it's a new bug, I've never seen that before [02:55] <\sh> ah I got a mail for the same package for sparc as well [02:56] <\sh> and all other archs [02:56] <\sh> kiko, I wonder if it has to do with moving it to universe [02:56] <\sh> aeh multiverse [02:57] \sh, can you explain better? [02:57] <\sh> kiko, the package itself should be moved from universe to multiverse, could be that some of the archive admins today tried to do it...i'm not sure... [02:57] <\sh> kiko, but those mails are strange.. === pygi [n=mario@83-131-64-132.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #launchpad [02:58] ion3-mod-xinerama moved from universe to multiverse today === fernando1 [i=fernando@gateway/tor/x-388cdd625d604817] has joined #launchpad [02:59] \sh, it's because they are bugs! [03:00] It'll be because the same version is currently semi-published in two places, I guess. === Paracha [i=Coder@Is.A.TclCoder.Org] has joined #launchpad [03:01] Oh, not a new upload, I see... === pygi [n=mario@83-131-64-132.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] === ddaa_ [n=ddaa@nor75-18-82-241-238-155.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === tck [n=tck@78.16.57.29] has joined #launchpad === idefixs [n=marcel@lli212095018024.grz.telering.at] has joined #launchpad [03:33] hi there! I have my project set up on launchpad and would now like to use launchpad as my bug tracker. how do i do that? [03:34] idefixs, visit your +edit page -- there's a way of saying you use it there. [03:34] hmm - where is +edit? [03:35] idefixs, what's the project name? [03:35] could that possibility be hidden from me because i did not register the project myself? [03:35] fische [03:36] idefixs, ah, yes. who registered the project? [03:36] bluekuja [03:36] idefixs, talk to him :) [03:37] easier said than done but thanks anyway! === sinzui [n=sinzui@pool-70-18-235-130.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #launchpad === Rinchen [n=joey@canonical/launchpad/pdpc.supporter.professional.rinchen] has joined #launchpad === adeuring [n=abel@Fc112.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #launchpad [03:48] Rinchen! [03:48] Rinchen, we're still on the phone btw [03:49] Morning kiko [03:49] Is there value for me to join in? [03:51] nooo === bigjools [n=ed@canonical/launchpad/bigjools] has joined #launchpad [03:52] I'll take that a face value :-) === ..[topic/#launchpad:mrevell] : Next developer meeting: Thu 30 Aug 2007, 1400UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad |Help: https://help.launchpad.net | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 === ..[topic/#launchpad:mrevell] : Next developer meeting: Thu 06 Sep 2007, 1400UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad |Help: https://help.launchpad.net | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 === andrew [n=andrew@unaffiliated/andrew] has left #launchpad [] === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #launchpad === gmb [n=graham@host86-146-116-223.range86-146.btcentralplus.com] has joined #launchpad === bigjools [n=ed@canonical/launchpad/bigjools] has joined #launchpad === danilo_ is now known as danilos [03:59] I hereby decree, no preemptive me'ing today! [03:59] me === Hobbsee me's in defiance! [03:59] meh [04:00] Welcome to this week's Launchpad development meeting. For the next 45 or so minutes, we'll be coordinating about developing Launchpad. [04:00] who is here today? [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] just [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] him [04:00] mrevell: ping [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] matsubara: pong [04:01] I have apologies from [04:01] * Curtis Hovey (sinzui) [04:01] * James Henstridge (jamesh) [04:01] me === sinzui is here [04:01] me [04:01] SteveA: cprov is on holiday [04:01] allenap: ping - meeting time [04:01] me [04:02] mpt: when you update the meeting agenda page, to link to the summary and include action items, please would you clear the apologies section [04:02] We need a meeting bot - team is getting too big! [04:02] SteveA, I do, I'm sorry if I forgot [04:02] I am hear [04:02] danilos: no carlos? [04:02] thanks mpt [04:02] jtv: pinged him privately [04:02] me [04:02] kiko: I here you [04:02] bigjools: thanks [04:03] stub: I believe the distro team use a meeting bot. Perhaps we can use that. [04:03] == Agenda == [04:03] * Roll call [04:03] * Agenda [04:03] * Next meeting [04:03] * Actions from last meeting [04:03] * Oops report (Matsubara) [04:03] * Critical Bugs (Rinchen) [04:03] * Bug tags [04:03] * Operations report (mthaddon) [04:03] * DBA report (stub) [04:03] * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen) [04:03] * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) [04:03] ---- [04:03] (other items) [04:03] ---- [04:03] * Blockers [04:03] [04:03] Next meeting, same time next week please. Who knows they won't be here? [04:03] I'm not available [04:03] I won't be here. [04:03] I'll be here. [04:04] Actions from last meeting. [04:04] * mrevell to start a discussion on launchpad-users@ about making it easier for upstream developers to manage bugs reported on Ubuntu packages of their software === kompressor [n=kompress@gw.impilinux.co.za] has left #launchpad [] [04:04] * kiko to start a discussion on launchpad@ about fixing the config system disaster [04:04] * matsubara to get feedback from team leads about any security concerns in giving them access to the shared staging mailbox [04:04] mrevell: ? [04:04] SteveA, I did, but it's not gone very far. [04:05] kiko: What's the subject line of the thread? [04:05] kiko: I'm interested to take part in this. [04:05] something to do with configs [04:05] me [04:05] SteveA: on going discussion in the mailing list. [04:05] SteveA: Apologies, that's in my drafts folder. I'll send it following this meeting. [04:05] RFC: Smoother config updates [04:05] Thanks. [04:05] * Oops report (Matsubara) [04:05] Today's oops report is about bugs 135829, 79637, 137385, 137140 [04:05] Launchpad bug 135829 in launchpad-answers "OOPS creating a faq with a rejected question" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135829 [04:05] Launchpad bug 79637 in malone "Cve page shouldn't contain bugnomination edit links" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79637 [04:05] Launchpad bug 137385 in malone "OOPS changing the bug target to None" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137385 [04:05] Launchpad bug 137140 in malone "Oops linking cve entry to a bug report that had the bug target modified" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137140 [04:05] sinzui can you take 135829? === statik [n=emurphy@189.66.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad [04:06] Volunteers for #79637, #137385 and #137140? [04:06] matsubara: yes [04:06] thanks sinzui === statik is here, sorry I'm late (laptop trouble) === barry won't be here next week [04:07] BjornT can you volunteer someone? :-) [04:07] matsubara: i'll take 137385 [04:07] matsubara: i can take 137385, assuming i can get an rc and do it next week, otherwise too busy [04:07] :) === ..[topic/#launchpad:mpt] : https://launchpad.net/ | Next developer meeting: Thu 13 Sep 2007, 1400UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad |Help: https://help.launchpad.net | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 [04:07] thanks jsk and intellectronica [04:07] jsk: you got it :) [04:08] ta :) [04:08] I think the worst one is 79637. I think it's ok if the others land in the next cycle [04:08] intellectronica, an RC would be fine. [04:09] gmb: can you take 79637? [04:09] matsubara: I was just typing that ;) [04:09] gmb, say yes :) [04:09] Yes. [04:09] you did a refactoring in the +editstatus view [04:09] ah ok [04:09] thanks! [04:09] For you kiko, anything. [04:09] Within reason. [04:09] heh [04:09] SteveA: I'm done. thank you [04:09] guys, this is a public meeting! [04:09] thanks matsubara [04:10] * Critical Bugs (Rinchen) [04:10] Hi all. I did a round of checking last night and this morning with folks on the critical bugs and I am aware of all their current status/progress. Thus, nothing for today unless anyone has a question. [04:10] 4 [04:10] 3 [04:10] any critical bugs that are affecting launchpad users, where people would be reassured by seeing them mentioned here? [04:11] at this point, the only one that fits that def is the ppa bug 136418 [04:11] Launchpad bug 136418 in soyuz "[ppa] Report email is sent to original maintainer and uploader" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136418 - Assigned to Julian Edwards (julian-edwards) [04:11] Rinchen, I'm looking at that patch for bigjools [04:11] thanks [04:12] * Bug tags [04:12] One new tag proposed: [04:12] structural-navigation [04:12] Mistakes in the use of the location bar, structural heading, and/or tabs [04:13] examples? what's the difference from ui (except detail level)? [04:13] +1 [04:13] danilos: examples are on https://help.launchpad.net/TaggingLaunchpadBugs [04:13] It's mainly so I can fix them all at once someday [04:13] my only question is, does a combination of 'structural' + 'ui' meet this need? [04:14] mpt: then I am +1 on it, because that's how I believe tags should be used to help us :) [04:14] mpt: ok, fine, +1 [04:14] SteveA, we don't currently have a "structural" tag either [04:14] thanks for proposing the tag and describing it well, with decent examples [04:14] * Operations report (mthaddon) === mwhudson [n=mwh@62-31-157-102.cable.ubr01.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [04:14] I'm fine with using the tag "structural" if you think it's clear, but you thought "focus" wasn't [04:14] Edge should be going live in reconfigured status today or tomorrow - once complete we can test for a few days and then turn on beta-testers redirect [04:14] PQM durations graph now auto-creating: https://devpad.canonical.com/~mthaddon/pqm_durations.html [04:15] mthaddon is da man [04:15] Other than that, nothing much to report [04:15] cool [04:15] mthaddon, did yiou see that stub said that other landings are also processed there? [04:15] +1 on mthaddon being the man [04:15] mthaddon, and did you see my special request? [04:15] i've seen the bazaar folks complain about how slow pqm is for them during launchpad week 3 :) [04:15] kiko - yes, I have an RT ticket to rsync logs to devpad so I can do analysis easier without slowing balleny [04:16] mwhudson, it's slow, not blocked, right? [04:16] kiko: yes [04:16] mthaddon, so as long as balleny is processing requests for other projects, we're SOL [04:16] mthaddon, is there a way of adjusting that curve for that I wonder? :-( [04:17] easiest way is to kick other projects to another machine ;-) [04:17] kiko: not sure I understand, but we can discuss after the meeting if you like [04:17] SteveA, yeah, but.. === SteveA waits for mthaddon to continue, or say he's done [04:18] SteveA, sorry, all done [04:18] thanks [04:18] * DBA report (stub) [04:18] DB patches have all been reviewed. I'd like to get feedback from Carlos about the LanguagePack patch after or during the meeting as I'm not officially here tomorrow. Similar with the code import patch if the bzr guys disagree with my reasoning. [04:18] launchpad/devel will be open for db patches starting tomorrow. Opened by whoever does it first - probably me as I have a branch to land. [04:18] We might have a suitable work around for https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/119780, allowing us to search in bug comments again. Details in the bug report. [04:18] over and out. [04:18] Launchpad bug 119780 in launchpad "GIN indexes cause some slow queries to fail entirely" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Stuart Bishop (stub) [04:19] stub, I'll target that again, thanks. [04:19] stub did you process ddaa's? [04:19] stub: how long will you be around? I'll try to find carlos for you [04:19] Rinchen: yeah, we got a review of our patch [04:19] we just received stub's review email today [04:19] great thanks. [04:21] danilos: How long do I need to be around :-) I'll check email tomorrow morning if I need to. [04:21] (or whenever I wake up) [04:21] nice workaround plan for 119780 [04:21] stub: well, I'll have to sms and/or call carlos, and I just want to know how much time I've got... anyway, I'll do that asap :) [04:21] danilos: You can probably answer the q's n the review - it is just naming opinions. [04:21] stub: any news on getting frederico to do some psycopg work? [04:21] danilos: I've also just emailed him [04:22] stub: right, except the type question... Iets move to #launchpad-code for that, though [04:22] i'm sure ddaa and i can check through the review pretty soon after the meeting [04:22] SteveA: I got confused on what we where thinking of asking him todo and dropped it sorry. [04:22] stub: fix some important bugs in psycopg 2 that jamesh identified [04:23] stub: look at supporting TPC [04:24] You want me to fire off an email tonight or pass it on to someone (jamesh) to chase next week? [04:24] please fire off an email and cc me and joey [04:24] and jamesh too [04:24] thanks stub [04:24] * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen) [04:24] Does anyone have any RT requests that need attention? If you are blocked on any, please speak now. I'm aware of Brilliant's ticket. jtv's moin patch was also recently upgraded. [04:24] I look up and it says please fire me and joey [04:24] Rinchen, jtv's moin patch, pretty please [04:25] kiko, sure thing. I also have a several from Poolie that I'm chasing. [04:25] mthaddon, I know yours are doing well. Any issues there? [04:25] not from me [04:26] ok, if anyone thinks of any, please ping me. Back to you Steve. [04:26] thanks Rinchen [04:26] * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) [04:26] In yesterday's Launchpad users meeting we had quite a few PPA-related [04:26] questions. On the one hand, the buzz around PPA was great to see! [04:26] However, it was also clear that people are using PPA to learn how to [04:26] package. Right now, our documentation assumes some packaging knowledge. [04:26] Laserjock (Jordan Mantha) has suggested a Packaging with PPA irc class [04:26] to be run jointly by the Launchpad and MOTU teams. I'm also working on [04:26] improvements to the PPA documentation, based on feedback we've had. [04:26] So, today's issue is that PPA's success has highlighted a need for [04:26] more basic packaging information in the PPA documentation. I'm going to [04:26] work with Laserjock and cprov to find the best way to handle this. [04:26] I'll gratefully accept ideas and suggestions. [04:26] Thanks back to you SteveA. [04:27] mrevell, if we don't already perhaps a link to MOTU from the PPA quickstart guide might be handy. Would drive new packagers there. [04:27] bolstering their team :-) [04:27] Rinchen: Thanks, we don't have a link already to MOTU but do to the Ubuntu packaging guide. I'll add one in. [04:28] Thanks mrevell [04:29] * Blockers (by team) [04:29] SC: not blocked [04:29] Release Team: Brilliant is blocked. IS to attempt fix tomorrow. [04:29] Translations: not blocked. [04:29] Foundations: need internal xmlrpc service [04:29] Bugs Team: not blocked [04:29] Collaborative Commerce: not blocked [04:29] Code Hosting: not blocked [04:29] Soyuz Team: a few dependent branches blocked on a kiko review [04:30] HWDB? [04:30] Uh, sorry, no [04:30] or HWDB: not blocked [04:30] thanks [04:30] bigjools, no, that's not true. [04:31] bigjools, I reviewed both and sent questions. [04:31] no answers have come [04:31] so I'm waiting. === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #launchpad [04:31] the only branch which is pending is for a cherry-pick [04:31] kiko: I emailed asking for a re-review [04:31] since it changed a lot [04:32] hi, sorry dudes, a mix of not knowing the time is it + my wireless card losing the network prevented me to arrive on time... [04:32] kiko: the other one is blocked on cprov coming back I guess? [04:33] bigjools, yes. [04:34] bigjools, or you calling him on his vacation? or you investigating further? [04:34] I mean, you're the one who's blocked, not him [04:35] I pointed out that your question had little to do with the changed code... [04:35] ok [04:35] we have 10 more minutes allotted [04:35] joey and kiko, would you like to say anything about the release cycle, work in the coming week, etc.? === Rinchen looks at kiko and thinks. [04:36] last day for new branches up is tomorrow [04:36] reviewers, please clear out your review queues today [04:36] don't go into week 3 with reviews that still need dong [04:36] DB is open on Friday [04:36] Is 1.1.10 a Five-weeker or is it the cycle after that? [04:37] we go thru 1.1.12 gmb [04:37] remember PQM is taking 90-120 minutes to land a branch. if you don't merge by wednesday, you're probably going to lose [04:37] gmb, so the week of the 24th is a "week 0" === kiko has no idea what Rinchen just meant [04:37] Okay. Thanks. [04:38] however, I'm expecting .11 and .12 to be light in terms of code due to meetings and holidays [04:38] Rinchen: don't discount pent-up changes from 1.1.10's stable cycle [04:38] bigjools, which are the branch names? [04:38]