=== astro76 [n=james@unaffiliated/astro76] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Jacob [n=jacob@ubuntu/member/jacob] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rockets [n=rockets@pool-71-247-35-247.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:27] I just installed tribe 5 on one of my laptops and when I try to upgrade to the latest version HAL gives me an error "failed to open connection to system bus". Dbus is failing to start. I dont see anything on launchpad about this, does anyone have any idea on what I can do to get dbus running? [01:28] by "latest version," do you mean current gutsy? [01:28] crimsun: yes [01:28] if so, it works fine here [01:29] crimsun: It works fine on my other laptop as well, but not the xubuntu one. [01:39] alright I guess I'll try feisty on that laptop then === xbisont [n=aeramire@189.155.24.123] has joined #ubuntu+1 === gonzoism [n=joe@tx-71-2-126-75.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:46] i got some patches to apply to the kernel. how do i get the source ubuntu uses ? and do i need to apply patches from ubuntu to it ? [01:49] is it bad that im getting kernel segfaults while doing dist-upgrade? [01:50] [rhetorical] [01:50] maybe a better question would be: i ran sudo apt-get install kernel-package then cd /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.22.10-generic/ &&sudo cp /boot/config-2.6.22.10-generic .config now if i config'd saved, and built would i have the same kernel as stock gutsy kernel i'm using now ? === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nickrud [n=nickrud_@216.112.213.2.ptr.us.xo.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] === buttercups [n=me@adsl-70-224-40-235.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:58] i wish my name was buttercups. maybe i can get it changed... [01:58] you wish [01:59] do you watch powerpuff girls [01:59] no [01:59] i would if i had cable. i'm lucky to have lights way out here.... === clooch [n=clooch@66.231.221.19] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nosrednaekim [n=michael@02-179.200.popsite.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === xOR [n=eae@vol75-2-81-57-253-216.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:19] hi === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@203-59-151-120.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sheldon [n=sheldon@c-71-225-101-13.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:24] Hello, I just installed the openssh-server on here and I cannot connect remotely to it. There is no firewall either. Please help === sparr [n=sparr@pdpc/supporter/active/sparr] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:25] after a gutsy dist-upgrade, firefox tells me "The URL is not valid and cannot be loaded" when i try to close a tab by middle clicking on it. can anyone duplicate that? [02:26] I can't. === sheldon [n=sheldon@c-71-225-101-13.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] [02:29] konqueror is behaving much less fluidly also [02:30] when i move photos out of a folder, the entire folder view is blanking then refreshing [02:30] and shift+click in konqueror in preview mode is selecting weird groups [02:31] and konqueror wont 'view' jpegs any more?1? [02:31] it opens gimp (or one of a dozen other editors, my choice) [02:31] like half the view modes are gone [02:32] this is funked up === Qubert [n=Qube@S0106000ea6be3878.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:33] i think someone made some mistakes in gutsy's kde packages [02:33] very recently [02:33] my tablet running gutsy from 2 weeks ago doesnt look anything like this [02:37] does the problem still occur when you move ~/.kde out of the way, and restart x? [02:39] ill check. but this isnt a configuration issue [02:39] konqueror has fundamentally changed [02:39] there are new sidebars, different types of views, a different top bar layout [02:40] it could be that my old config doesnt play nice with the new konqueror, and ill try removing .kde to check that, but this seems deeper === rockets [n=rockets@pool-71-247-35-247.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:42] what is the ubuntu way to burn a data CD? [02:43] reboot! === sparr [n=sparr@pdpc/supporter/active/sparr] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:55] roe: Places: CD/DVD Creator? [02:55] or grab gnomebaker <3 === buttercups [n=me@adsl-70-224-40-235.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:04] new kde seems to be missing "walk through windows (all desktops)" shortcut... help? === AmyRose [n=djb@unaffiliated/amyrose] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tehk [n=tehk@c-71-59-90-172.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === leperkhanzWALL [n=Linda@ip72-192-137-131.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tatters [n=test@ACCA4D80.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:19] anyone had problem with second hard drive after recent updates? [03:21] hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000 === SpudDogg [n=spuddogg@c-76-109-159-194.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === leperkhanzWALL [n=Linda@ip72-192-137-131.sd.sd.cox.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === funkja [n=funkja@12-216-41-28.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:36] How do I find a module that isn't installed? I am running Tribe 5 and am trying to load the module piix to make my DVD drive work, but I'm told Module piix is not found. === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-41.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === NastyAccident [n=NastyAcc@unaffiliated/nastyaccident] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buttercups [n=me@adsl-70-224-40-235.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-41.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === makuseru [n=max@163.106.40.24.aeneasdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Xero|sleep [n=xero9364@c-24-126-30-244.hsd1.wv.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tatters [n=test@ACCA4D80.ipt.aol.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === spaz [i=root@wikipedia/Jacob-Myers] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:14] hey all === jimmacdonald [n=jim@138-212-223-66.gci.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:15] mapp: you remember t install that was broken [04:15] s/t/my/ [04:15] ? [04:15] well i found the problem [04:15] i just fscked the drive [04:15] and my god, i dunno how the heck it was doing as well as it was O_o === nickrud [n=nickrud_@69.239.51.236] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:16] thought i'd let you know that === blued [n=blued@c-66-56-72-153.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === contrast83 [n=mike@adsl-074-236-242-009.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === SpudDogg [n=spuddogg@c-76-109-159-194.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DeepB [n=Joe@unaffiliated/deepb] has joined #ubuntu+1 === contrast83 [n=mike@adsl-074-236-242-009.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nand_ [n=nand@137.132.208.3] has joined #ubuntu+1 === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ion [n=ion@70-58-119-250.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buttercups [n=me@adsl-70-224-40-235.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian] has joined #ubuntu+1 === spaz [i=root@wikipedia/Jacob-Myers] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF139C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === kousotu [n=kousotu@adsl-68-79-207-137.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [04:45] anyone know how I could FTP to an xbox360 hooked on on Lan dirrectlyto my wireles Laptop? === buttercups [n=me@adsl-70-224-40-235.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:48] woho....got xgl going just fine on the machine now [04:50] scizzo-: congrats? [04:50] scizzo-: that'd be "sudo aptitude install xserver-xgl", right? :) [04:51] anyone know how I could FTP to an xbox360 hooked on on Lan dirrectlyto my wireless Laptop? === rvalles sees xgl pointless with current hardware [04:52] rvalles: You obviously don't use nvidia hardware :) [04:52] better use plain xorg's xserver plus AIGLX [04:52] RAOF: I curiously use nvidia hardware x3. [04:53] Then you don't care about resume-from-suspend? Or do you just not use desktop effects? [04:53] and I still think that AIGLX works way, way, way, way better === RAOF finds xgl faster, and has fewer bugs. [04:53] than xgl, for desktop effects. === rvalles finds it to be the opposite. [04:54] RAOF: mostly for doing it auto in gdm and so on [04:54] RAOF: the install of package is no problem...its the automation that is the problem for me mostly === contrast83 [n=mike@adsl-074-236-242-009.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:55] i am having an issue with where my notifications (from libnotify) show up. I have 2 monitors, i want them to show up on the right one, but they show up on the left one. is there a setting somewhere? [04:56] rvalles: well the xgl server is actually working better for me in gutsy so.. [04:56] kousotu: no.....have never tried to do that === kousotu_ [n=kousotu@adsl-68-79-207-137.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === t0phr3 [n=tophre@nc-69-68-92-133.sta.embarqhsd.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:58] hi all [04:58] anyone know how I could FTP to an xbox360 hooked on on Lan dirrectlyto my wireless Laptop? [04:58] Kousotu: no [04:58] Kousotu: www.google.com [04:58] Kousotu: :) [04:59] scizzo-: I looked,found nothing helpful [04:59] I cannot burn gutsy to a CD, i have tried everything that everyone has suggested and the disks are still corrupt [04:59] Kousotu: then maybe you can't? [05:00] PCLinuxOS burns fine, Dream Linux burns fine...but Ubuntu gutsy is always corrupt [05:00] t0phr3: tribe 5? [05:00] scizzo-: I'm sure it's possible === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:00] scizzo-: I just need help doing it [05:00] scizzo-: gentoo here... gutsy just on a laptop :) [05:00] scizzo-: any tribe [05:00] scizzo-:they all fail [05:01] scizzo-: that laptop is ati-based... and works better with free drivers (200M... only from git.) [05:01] rvalles: you are not a full blooded ubuntu freak? damn you! [05:01] scizzo-: I'm not a full blooded anything freak. I am a free mind :) [05:01] rvalles: I remember when the fglrx drivers was cause big fuzz....that was a lot of fun.....really long time ago though [05:02] rvalles: a nerd? [05:02] rvalles: :D [05:02] t0phr3: sounds weird [05:02] t0phr3: you trying to burn it in windows or some other system? [05:02] scizzo-: here fglrx -> 3d crashes sometimes (gnash and webbrowsing = crash within the hour) and no STR. [05:02] t0phr3: checked the md5 sum? [05:02] scizzo-: windows, linux, different PCs [05:03] scizzo-: MD5SUM is fine every time [05:03] scizzo-: a disaster... so happy the free driver finally accelerates it. [05:03] t0phr3: hmmmm sounds really crazy [05:03] rvalles: hehe... :) [05:03] scizzo-: works great in virtualbox [05:03] rvalles: apt-get moo [05:03] scizzo-: if i burn the iso, the cd is corrupt [05:03] scizzo-: emerge moo :) [05:04] rvalles: that works in gentoo also? [05:04] rvalles: haha [05:04] t0phr3: then I would suggest you to get feisty and try to burn that [05:05] t0phr3: then use the update-manager to get gutsy if you really feel up for it [05:05] scizzo-: of course, larry the cow loves gentoo after all. [05:05] rvalles: haha [05:05] rvalles: someone must have been a little bored doing that... :D [05:05] scizzo-: feisty is fine...thats how i got gutsy on my machines now [05:06] t0phr3: well....can't really seem to find out why it would fail to burn the iso [05:06] scizzo-: naw, they were happy working on portage itself and so added it in the meanwhile [05:06] scizzo-: imagine the ego boost. === buttercups [n=me@adsl-70-224-40-235.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:06] rvalles: haha [05:06] scizzo-: if PCLinuxOS failed then i would feel so bad about it but its just gutsy [05:07] scizzo-: wouldn't* [05:07] t0phr3: check if someone might have reported it as a bug [05:07] t0phr3: however...the strange part is actually that all the tribe versions gets corrupt [05:08] scizzo-: well, tribes and dailies [05:08] t0phr3: my best suggestion is that you check the bugzilla [05:09] t0phr3: if nothing there seems to give you any result...then maybe its time to do a bugreport...:P [05:09] t0phr3: sorry...I am not that good with iso stuff [05:09] scizzo-: you mean launchpad? [05:09] t0phr3: yeah [05:10] scizzo-: k [05:10] t0phr3: best suggestion I have really [05:10] t0phr3: I am not a developer [05:10] t0phr3: so dont know that much really === Ahadiel [n=ahadiel@S010600131042857c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tehk [n=tehk@c-71-59-90-172.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === t0phr3 [n=tophre@nc-69-68-92-133.sta.embarqhsd.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === slavik [n=ubuntu@67-100-227-140.adsl.lbdsl.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:27] tribe5-amd64 livecd won't boot on core2quad, gives a message that kernel is alive, gives another line about kernel in mempatch and then black screen === slavik [n=ubuntu@67-100-227-140.adsl.lbdsl.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === Stevo [n=chatzill@c-68-59-27-89.hsd1.sc.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:29] does anyone know what might be causing my screen to go black (like it turned off black) at bootup? i can hit ctrl+alt+bckspc and the CLI shows briefly. i eventually have to power down via the power button. the CLI is shown at that moment as well, but for only a moment. === Nighthawk420_ [n=nighthaw@74-138-185-56.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:30] hello everyone [05:30] i was sent here by nickrud of #ubuntu to get a copy of gutsy === Stevo [n=chatzill@c-68-59-27-89.hsd1.sc.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [05:31] hey, pelo sent you, I said it might be a good idea ;) === Toma- [n=e17@203-59-151-120.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pwnguin has finally packaged up titanion for gutsy [05:31] lol wat ever hehe [05:31] deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/jldugger/ubuntu gutsy main restricted universe multiverse [05:32] that for me? [05:32] to everyone living dangerously enough to install software from strangers ;) [05:32] but not you direclty [05:33] wat is it? [05:33] im trying to get gutsy asa a last resort cuz fiesty wont work [05:33] and we ahve tried everything [05:33] well get tribe 5 === FireCrotch_ [n=FireCrot@adsl-69-210-54-198.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:35] pwnguin: what is it? [05:35] IdleOne: it's a space shooter game, like galaga [05:36] :/ cant play games on this old machine. not nearly enogh ram [05:36] it should be pretty light on ram [05:36] but it does need 3d [05:36] enough either. I have so little ram that I cant even type all the leters in wrds [05:36] :P [05:36] no 3d :/ [05:37] (it might even work without 3d hardware, but i sorta doubt it) [05:37] i used to run a different game by the same guy on a k6-2 with 192 mb of ram [05:38] well i got 192mb ram [05:38] p3 === IdleOne gives it a shot [05:38] but the 3d is likely end of story [05:39] what was the other game and is it packaged? [05:39] rrootage [05:39] should be packaged === jimmacdonald [n=jim@rdbck-7065.palmer.mtaonline.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:41] yup it is [05:41] debhelper is pretty nifty. as is the patching system === hydrogen [n=hydrogen@ignorance.campus.alfred.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hydrogen [n=hydrogen@ignorance.campus.alfred.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:46] heh [05:46] make -j is bad [05:46] :) [05:46] is good! [05:46] Aack, I've just now experienced the brokenness that is bcm43xx. [05:47] WPA2 doesn't work. [05:47] be lucky you connect at all! === FrankH [n=frank@71-85-110-115.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:47] And this cardbus card's newest Windows drivers only support WPA1. [05:47] Even if I use WPA1, the connection is slow as hell. [05:47] It's not a big issue because I have wired anyway, but it's a learning experience -- now I know what everybody complains about. [05:47] pwnguin: I cant play rrootage graphics are way to slow :/ [05:48] IdleOne: then titanion's likely out of the question [05:48] yup [05:48] I need to upgrade this machine [05:48] too bad intel doesnt make discrete cards [05:48] or maybe just setup a webserver and get a new machine [05:50] Isthere any way to find better Windows drivers to use under ndiswrapper? [05:54] anyone else have an issue with the spell check of OOo [05:57] DanaG: check which chipset, and search by chipset # [05:57] there are a nice lot of marvell drivers out there that i used for a while === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p54A1FB56.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === FireCrotch_ [n=FireCrot@adsl-69-210-54-198.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Kopete] === dfgas [n=dfgas@adsl-69-215-150-60.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Adlai [n=leif@129.49.7.102] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:13] on an amd64 machine running gutsy, keyboard shortcuts don't work, the window manager doesn't use the focus settings I've created, and the titlebar is a bit messed up (doesn't show everything) [06:14] I have a feeling this is a problem with gnome-settings-daemon, but I'm not entirely sure [06:14] has anyone seen something like this before, or know how I could get more debugging information? === BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@129.120.244.117] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === lupin [n=lupin@ip68-226-125-194.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:28] just had my first data loss due to gutsy's unstable-ness [06:28] :( === thumper [n=tim@canonical/launchpad/thumper] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:31] sparr, playing with fire ;) [06:31] awwww [06:31] I'm getting boot failure with the following message after upgrading: [time] device-mapper: table 254:2: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed [06:31] even on the safe-mode boot options [06:34] I know that this is for "effects" but How do I make windows quit "snapping" to the edges in compiz-fusion? [06:34] no one there is alive lol === Le-Chuck_ITA [n=Le-Chuck@host251-171-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Le-Chuck_ITA [n=Le-Chuck@host251-171-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving."] === beg1689 [n=beg1689@ip68-228-159-130.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Ahadiel [n=ahadiel@S010600131042857c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === beg1689 [n=beg1689@ip68-228-159-130.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [06:41] aack, gnomevfs can't connect to my router's embedded ssh server. [06:42] gnomevfs-info on the URI gives this, after the password prompt: [06:42] Error: I/O error [06:42] Wow, that's helpful. :P === sparr [n=sparr@pdpc/supporter/active/sparr] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:45] can anyone confirm that gutsy konqueror 'rotate' function on xcf images (gimp's format) destroys the file? === thumper [n=tim@canonical/launchpad/thumper] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Konversation] === buttercups [n=me@c-68-54-116-100.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ironmatar [n=ironmata@pool-71-112-180-6.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:59] im about to install gutsy due to the fiesty install not working with cedega and everything for eve -online is there anything anything at all i can do to garuntee myself a properly working OS that wont be bugged in 2 days or a month or whatever...i had a xp install run for 3 years plus on my last system befoer the system died and so far easy ubuntu has been nothing but a non/partly funstioning headach [07:00] fiesty is suposedly a flawless working system with cedega which is supposed to be easy to use so why am i ahveing this headach === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:01] ironmatar: Dunno. [07:01] But Gutsy at this point is unlikely to be your answer. [07:03] i want my comp back and my gameing entertainment back i have a decent system msi k9n platinum sli gigbyte 8500 gt w 512 mb cache 2 gb ocz memory wd 16mb cache 250 gb hd so i dont understand how that could be a problem [07:04] amd dual core 3800 [07:05] iv tried both live cd iso's and the alt iso's for fiesty [07:06] iv had this install running for 4 days now without issues but iv not tried to imstall the vid driver or the updates which so far Always borks my install [07:07] my friend has suggested a computer shop might help but how many are conversant with linux === Creed [n=Ron@c-71-227-218-188.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nanonyme [n=siylioll@kirves.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 === overclucker [n=wonton@66-52-216-108.sttl.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:08] i dont understand why the install breaks when i add the updates and the vidio driver [07:09] what can i do"? [07:09] i dont have 200 bucks to go spend on another micoblows xp cd [07:10] ironmatar, you do know that gutsy is a alpha OS right? [07:12] yes but fiesty is not working for me and after following help advice for weeks and not getting anywhwere except another re-install of fiesty i need something that works paying for cedega and my time is burning up and the blasted os wotn stay in one piece [07:12] ironmatar, and from what I hear eve online has a linux port [07:13] its in the beginnign stages and transgameing are the ones working on it [07:13] I see.. [07:14] i've heard eve online works on wine though [07:14] meanwhile i need a os that works with cedega === jimmacdonald [n=jim@138-212-223-66.gci.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:14] so whats the problem with installing cedega? [07:15] if fiesty wouldent break every time i update it id be a lot farther ahead [07:15] but ever time i apply the 119 updates its borked agian [07:16] i attempted to apply the updates in blocks that did not work either [07:16] as some blasted updates are linked to others [07:19] cedega installs and is supposed t5o work flawlessly with eve yet iv never gotten to the login screen it starts up and 30 seconds later the intro screen blips away and notheing happens === bikeboy [n=bikeboy@220-253-17-227.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:20] so what can i do [07:20] is theer some kind of order to installing things im missing here? [07:20] maybe cedega is broken and you should send a bug report? [07:22] after messing around with this for like 3 weeks now iv narrowed the problem i am getting in gernal on my install to the update packages [07:23] some people ahve suggested its my vidio card in general though i cant understand why even though i ahve to full manuel install the driver [07:23] sparr: I remember that happening even on non-gutsy [07:23] very very very bad [07:23] almost cost me some signed photos [07:23] now... backups! [07:24] yeah, I'm _very_ wary of "auto-rotate" features after that [07:24] ironmatar: "Full manual install the driver"? [07:25] f-spot photo manager seems to do a nice job [07:25] This seems a bad idea, one that will make updates likely to break. [07:25] so does imagemagick, but we knew that already =P [07:25] true, better idea to make install packages oneself if you need newer drivers... [07:26] speaking of newer drivers [07:26] sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop sudo sh NV tab complete sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start [07:26] who else bought an nvidia card two weeks ago because they were sick of awful ati support [07:26] and is incredibly pissed at their timing, given amd's announcement today [07:27] sthat kind full amuel install [07:27] hmm, i must have missed the announcement [07:27] what was that about? [07:27] Adlai: dude it'll be a year before you get anything useful from amd's announcement today [07:27] nanonyme: o_O [07:27] Amaranth: really? [07:27] nanonyme: they're promising decent support [07:27] nanonyme: full specifications for their r500 cards [07:27] and cedega says that a good install passed all tests [07:27] ah [07:27] nanonyme: and a 'framework' 2d driver by the end of the year [07:28] Amaranth: why do you say a year? [07:28] did they say that? [07:28] I had a few months stuck in my head [07:28] Adlai: Because they aren't going to work on it [07:28] Adlai: They're going to release this stuff and leave it to the xorg community to finish it [07:28] Amaranth, sounds good considering it's quite possible drivers for intel cards pass both nvidia and ati with the current rate :) [07:28] Which is fine, that's all we've ever asked for [07:29] nanonyme: if intel (or someone else) put as much effort into the linux drivers as the vista drivers you'd be surprised how powerful an x3100 is [07:30] powerful enough that from what i've heard aero works best with intel [07:30] heh [07:30] even though the ati and nvidia stuff is supposed to be way faster [07:31] Amaranth: sure, the open source drivers will take a while [07:31] so i dont know what i am doing wrong with the installing as i get a good install from cd then i run in terminal apt-get update upgrade and install build-essential then the video driver and thinsg seems fine n i hit the updats and its ruined andlong long period of carerfulling installing work [07:31] but I'm not _that_ intense about free software [07:31] I'll be happy with proprietary drivers that support everything [07:31] Adlai: oh, fglrx with texture_from_pixmap is about a month away [07:31] yeah, everything I read said 2007 Q4 [07:31] Amaranth, well, we can't really expect proper drivers from them with all the game producers targeting windows [07:31] which is about upon us [07:32] so i rippd the gutsy iso to cd n thought id try that [07:32] alright, it's tea time [07:32] cheers [07:32] o/ === asisak [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:33] so am i missing anything important in my install methods? [07:35] i went by housecall to get a hd scan but that dosent work without the flash plugins and evrything i hvent even tried to install yet [07:37] what did... [07:38] wait [07:38] _what_? [07:38] you're trying to scan your hard drive [07:38] with flash [07:38] please explain this to me [07:39] Housecall is symtec's online viris scanner it pwnzrz just about every viri or trojan ever invented [07:39] google it === DanaG [n=dana@71-9-52-25.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:39] i love the thing its updated constantly evr day [07:40] anytime iv suspected a problem of that kind i go there === benanzo [n=ben@c-71-197-165-27.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:41] but...viruses don't exist on linux [07:41] however if u suspect your irc program has become infected i also suggest #nohack on dalnet if it still exsists [07:42] you really belive that? [07:42] Adlai, worms do [07:42] ain't no worms on me === coNP [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:43] maybe not but the claim that there are no viruses for linux sounds like ignorance === macd_ [n=d@cl-151.ewr-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:43] sorry? [07:43] it's just not true [07:44] afaik the first viruses were written for *nixes, after all === benanzo [n=ben@c-71-197-165-27.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [07:44] I usually assume people are smart enough to disbelieve any sweeping generalization, at least a little bit === jussi01 [n=jussi@oul088-gw3.netplaza.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:44] a fairly foolish assumption, but I like it [07:44] nanonyme: It's just that there are, as far as I'm aware, no linux viruses "in the wild". [07:45] 4 rules of alpha city 1 keep your laser handy 2 trust no One 3 TRUST the computer 4 the Computer! is your friend! [07:45] might be true. although running chkrootkit on crontab might be a good idea in any case === coNP is now known as asisak [07:46] I'm also constantly amazed at how critical most people think their system is [07:46] honestly, if someone hijacked my computer, I really wouldn't care [07:46] a system doesn't need to be critical to be hacked [07:46] most hacked computers are nowadays used for ddos'ing critical systems [07:46] right, I just wouldn't really mind [07:46] you would when the fed showed at yer door [07:46] if I noticed, I would reformat [07:47] if not, so be it [07:47] it's not your computer that matters, it's your internet connection [07:47] my computer's extra cycles are getting used for something at least [07:47] the computer is just the body that each zombie must have === scheater6 [n=scheater@199.120.31.19] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:47] personally, I think ISPs should be responsible for that [07:48] if they allow malicious traffic to get to my computer and infect it [07:48] ... [07:48] AOL will help you with that [07:48] It's not malicious traffic. [07:48] I shouldn't be the one held responsible if my computer starts generating malicious packets that they then transmit [07:48] yeah, they should rather cut all connectivity if they think you're being hacked [07:48] Has anyone managed to get 2.6.22-10-rt (the real time kernel from the gusty repos) working on Fesity? [07:48] then see when your uptime drops to 2 hours a day [07:48] you really wnt your isp to be able to cencor what you do on the net? [07:49] scheater6: I haven't even been able to get it to work on *Gutsy* :) [07:49] scheater6: not me persoanlly, but I know others that have [07:49] scheater6: it does not have restricted driver support [07:49] sure, it's not feasible [07:49] raof: well, that's encouraging! [07:50] scheater6: To be fair, that's cause I wanted my nvidia drivers, which don't build against it. [07:50] jussi01: I don't particularly need restricted driver support, at least I'm pretty sure I don't. I just need the newer kernel because of my sound card. [07:50] I just don't like the idea that my grandmother sets up her computer and connects it to the internet, and a few months later gets served for computer fraud or something [07:50] scheater6: what sort of graphix cord you have? [07:50] !offtopic | Adlai [07:50] Adlai: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [07:51] jussi01: dear lord...this is going on a dinosaur that I've turned into a digital audio workstation...I'm pretty sure it's integrated graphics, therefore I'm going with Intel. === Adlai grumbles [07:51] scheater6: lol, ok then... :) [07:52] jussi01: the trippy thing is, the generic kernel installs fine, but the rt hits a dependency problem - or at least what seems like a dependency problem [07:53] scheater6: maybe try posting on the rt sticky under Multimedia Production section on Ubuntu forums [07:53] already done [07:53] good install from cd then i run in terminal apt-get update upgrade and install build-essential then the video driver and thing seems fine n i hit the updates and its borked agian with fiesty am i doing anything wrong here ? [07:53] ok, no joy then... [07:55] sequence problem? [07:55] scheater6: try jumping into #ubuntustudio - if abogiani comes in, corner him.... [07:55] jussi01: This is apparently a very weird problem, or else no one but me seems to care. Apparently few are running an Audiophile 192 sound card on ubuntu studio and has figured out that only the newer kernels support it. [07:56] jussi01: thanks for the name. I've been asking on that channel for a few days now with no answer. [07:56] scheater6: yeah, sounds weird. have you tried it on a different machine?? [07:56] jussi01: it's my only desktop at the moment [07:57] I know the card has issues with Linux. The icensamble driver didn't work right with it until 2.6.21, and it wasn't fully supported until 2.6.22-9 [07:59] any ideas from anyone ? [07:59] scheater6: I need to go... work calls. I'll be back on later, if you are around [07:59] When I try the -rt kernel, dbus doesn't work. [07:59] It's odd. [07:59] jussi01: probably not tonight, but thanks anyway. I'll be around later in the week [08:00] scheater6: send me an email with the errors. jussi01 at gmail . com === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:00] will do [08:02] is my problem so hard i ghought at least in here i could find some answers [08:03] ironmatar: doesn't mean your problem is that hard man, just maybe no one who is paying attention knows how to fix it. It's asking a room full of random people a very specific question - maybe it's the wrong time or the wrong place. [08:05] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/41427 [08:05] Launchpad bug 41427 in ubuntu ""slow keys" can turn on surreptitiously & cause confusion." [Medium,Incomplete] [08:05] I've asked the question about the real time kernels you just saw me and jussi talking about in various channels and forums for weeks with not a single response until now. Such is the beast of community help. If I understand your explination right, it's a problem with feisty. try asking in #ubuntu [08:05] Completely unrelated to any present conversation, but I just ran into it again. [08:07] It's quite extremely annoying. [08:07] iv pent weeks of my entertaiment time attempetng to get Easy! to use ubuntu and iv been suggested to try gutsy my system ought to run my fairly uncomplecated requirements of this os with out hassles === dfgas_ [n=dfgas@adsl-68-254-170-183.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:09] first thing I'd do if your frustrated is document everything on a webpage. Starting with what you do to build the system, then include the errors your seeing. A detailed list of the hardware as well. That lets you point people to your page and give them an idea of what the issue is. [08:09] plus, if anyone else is having the problem, once it's solved the page would be a good resource for them :) [08:12] if it matters i run a corp ingame with several billions in assets and 10+ members and there are a lot of thinsg already requireing my attiention hassels with the os and just getting ingame is not one of them [08:14] ironmatar: it doesnt sound like you should be running gutsy. [08:14] for multiple reasons. [08:16] then i should just ignore the 119 updates? [08:16] then you should go back to feisty, or use another distro. [08:16] or if cedega is the problem, then contact them. [08:18] Plus, if it works fine on Windows, it may be worth it just to make Windows work well and consistently. And then do everything else in Linux. [08:18] I run games in Windows, because I don't want to deal with Wine and/or Cedega. [08:18] But I do all my web browsing in Linux, because the windows font rendering gives me bloodshot eyes. [08:19] i would be useing my xp cd now except for the fact that they have broken it by removing sp1 from the updates scheg as its a original xp home cd [08:20] Is it an OEM disk, locked to a specific system? [08:20] If not, you should be able to use any XP Home cd to install, and just use your product key. [08:20] and in 4 days my case was shuffeled between 6 diffrent departments and 20 people until i dident know who to talk to [08:21] it installed just fine but they have wgav now that installs befoer the updater and borked it [08:22] If you still have a working (as in, not damaged) XP CD, you can slipstream SP2 directly into it, so it'll install without dealing with WGA, and with SP2 already installed. [08:22] Though that's a topic not so relevant to this channel. The website http://www.msfn.org/ can help. [08:23] I usually like to keep both Windows and Linux on my system -- if one breaks, you can use the other to research how to fix it. [08:35] Oh yeah, where can I find recent BCM4306 (cardbus) drivers to use under ndiswrapper? [08:36] The drivers I'm ndiswrapping (yay, new word) are from 2004. === LinAsH [n=missmagu@193.54.76.57] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bdgraue [n=bdgraue@host-091-096-173-036.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Ayabara [n=anr@62.70.2.252] has joined #ubuntu+1 === matsalka [n=db@84-50-163-59-dsl.rgu.estpak.ee] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:47] hi, does these tribe updates come also by dist-update? === BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@129.120.244.114] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:49] matsalka: Yes. Because a tribe is just a snapshot. [08:49] ok [08:49] then i should have the latest [08:49] Indeed. === atlas95 [n=atlas@AVelizy-153-1-94-43.w90-35.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ironmatar [n=ironmata@pool-71-112-180-6.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:55] http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com who is running this site? and why is it so slow? [08:56] is it slow? [08:56] it regularly posts dlods to me at under 30kb a sec [08:56] sometimes as bad as under 10k [08:57] PLEASE, DON'T ABUSE OUR SERVER !!! [08:57] If you got to this page, your are likely from one of the countries (many from past USSR countries or China) that are frequently abusing and overloading our server. [08:57] lol [08:58] i hit the beginning od get apt update pack for that part and the dload just dropps off [08:59] dl speeds around 30 KB/s for me [08:59] you can always use another archive === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-25-231.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ironmatar [n=ironmata@pool-71-112-180-6.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-25-231.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tigge [n=tigge@bacchus.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG uses mirrors.kernel.org. === se7en^Of^9 [n=se7enofn@125-24-159-107.adsl.totbb.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tigge [n=tigge@bacchus.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jsomers [n=jsomers@d5152D0CE.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === piti [n=pablo@mut38-1-82-67-65-78.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pvandewyngaerde [n=pvandewy@27.61-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tigge [n=tigge@bacchus.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === matysek [n=matysek@84.Red-83-43-138.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === xopher [n=xopher@unaffiliated/xopher] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bigon [n=bigon@22.196-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === xopher [n=xopher@unaffiliated/xopher] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pecisk [n=pecisk@78.84.155.53] has joined #ubuntu+1 === coNP [n=coNP@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu+1 === WONToN [n=wonton__@67-150-209-231.sttl.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === __tim [n=timm@dsl-217-155-195-89.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === asisak [n=coNP@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu+1 === coNP [n=coNP@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu+1 === grndslm [n=grndslm@24-116-87-97.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === allbert [n=allberto@124.82.114.200] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Infecto [i=infecto@gada.bezsensu.pl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Infecto [i=infecto@gada.bezsensu.pl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bigon [n=bigon@22.196-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === calavera [n=cal@195.Red-80-26-32.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Infecto [i=infecto@gada.bezsensu.pl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === xopher [n=xopher@unaffiliated/xopher] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Infecto [i=infecto@gada.bezsensu.pl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === munckfish [n=munckfis@217.150.115.62] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buttercups [n=me@c-68-54-116-100.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sen3 [n=sen@ha.customer.antwerpen.belnet.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === xopher [n=xopher@unaffiliated/xopher] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.200.222] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:53] if i have 2 computer do i have to update both or is there a way to download the upgrades only once [10:57] you can copy the content of the folder /var/cache/apt/archives/ to the other machine === sen [n=sen@ha.customer.antwerpen.belnet.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cowbud [n=fuas@or-76-2-2-103.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === eMaX_ [n=emax@154-124.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu+1 === xopher [n=xopher@unaffiliated/xopher] has joined #ubuntu+1 === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jscinoz [n=jscinoz@c220-239-12-203.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:17] Has alsa been fixed to work on the santa-rosa platform in the .10 kernel? === ankitag [i=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-a21062c392611437] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:20] jscinoz : possibly for you.. it's gone backwards for me.. it used to recognise the card, just not work.. now it does neither. [11:20] i do remember that my sound chipset is different from yours.. mine is sigmatel. [11:20]