[04:22] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: how goes the survey results?
[09:05] <juliux> morning
[03:55] <katkin> popey: ping
[03:56] <popey> katkin: pong
[03:56] <katkin> popey: could you give me a contact number for you? We need it for the things we are sending to you
[03:56] <katkin> popey: and do you have one for gary as well?
[03:56] <popey> 07973 620164
[03:56] <popey> is my mobile number
[03:57] <katkin> thanks - and gary's?
[03:59] <elkbuntu> woohoo! /me prank calls popey
[04:00] <popey> hahah
[04:01] <katkin> :)
[04:01] <elkbuntu> gary probably wont be far off being online anyway
[04:01] <popey> sorry katkin I dont have it
[04:02] <katkin> popey: no worries, thanks for looking
[04:02] <popey> oo oo hang on
[04:02] <katkin> what is gary's IRC nick?
[04:02] <popey> Gary or GazzaK
[04:02] <Daviey> GazzaK or Gary
[04:02] <popey> I have one more place to look
[04:02] <katkin> ok, pretty straightforward then
[04:02] <Daviey> i have his mobile number
[04:02] <katkin> ok . . .
[04:02] <elkbuntu> ask in -uk, surely someone else there might have it?
[04:02] <Daviey> I'd rather not give it out.. but i can pass a message on?
[04:03] <Daviey> Do i need to read scrollback, or can somebody give me the hihlights?
[04:03] <popey> wooot
[04:03] <popey> got it
[04:04] <popey> Daviey: does the one you have end in 97?
[04:04] <Daviey> lemme check
[04:04] <popey> katkin: you have prv
[04:04] <Daviey> popey: yes
[04:04] <katkin> prv?
[04:05] <popey> private message
[04:05] <popey> I'll mail it to you :)
[04:05] <katkin> ok, thanks
[04:05] <katkin> :)
[04:05] <popey> sent
[04:05] <elkbuntu> you really ought to register your nickname, katkin :)
[04:06] <katkin> register it?
[04:06] <popey> katkin: if you register your nickname "katkin" then nobody else can use it, and you can receive private messages from people
[04:06] <elkbuntu> yep, so nobody else can take it, and we can be sure it's you we are talking to :)
[04:06] <Daviey> Daviey's number.... which one?
[04:06] <katkin> aha
[04:06] <katkin> how would I do that?
[04:06] <popey>  /msg nickserv register
[04:06] <Daviey> katkin: /msg nick...
[04:06] <popey> ^ that katkin 
[04:07] <Daviey> popey: too damn fast
[04:07] <popey> too slow Daviey :)
[04:07] <katkin> I'm still not following. . . . do I have to type that somewhere?
[04:07] <katkin> :(
[04:08] <elkbuntu> irc isnt the easiest thing to learn, so dont be worried about not knowing stuff
[04:08] <popey> yes, type it right here
[04:08] <popey> katkin: irc is somewhat geeky
[04:08] <katkin>  /msg nickserv register
[04:08] <popey> without the space
[04:08] <popey>  / needs to be the first character on the line
[04:08] <katkin> do I have to type my nick somewhere in that?
[04:08] <katkin> aha
[04:08] <popey> it will tell you what to do
[04:08] <katkin> ?
[04:08] <Daviey> If only we had a screencast, showing how to use irc :)
[04:09] <popey> ooooooo 
[04:09] <elkbuntu> you mean there isnt one?
[04:09] <Daviey> Basic one IIRC
[04:09] <popey> that's a very good idea
[04:09] <katkin> IRC for dummies
[04:09] <Daviey> IRC for canonical staff?
[04:09] <popey> there is one for joining irc, but it doesn't show nick registration
[04:09] <elkbuntu> bad popey
[04:09] <katkin> so I managed to do this >nickserv< register
[04:10] <katkin> does that mean my nick is registered now?
[04:10] <katkin> I'm guessing not . . .
[04:10] <elkbuntu> did nickserv reply with anything?
[04:10] <Daviey> katkin: What irc application are you using?
[04:10] <popey> you need to do "/msg nickserv register SOMEPASSWORD"
[04:10] <popey> without the quotes, and choose your own password
[04:11] <elkbuntu> probably, and remembering to the last time i used gaim for irc, nickserv's response is probably in some convoluted place
[04:14] <elkbuntu> katkin, you seem to be registered now, excellent. now make sure you remember the password
[04:15] <katkin> elkbuntu: will do
[04:15] <elkbuntu> katkin, if you tell us what you are connecting to IRC with, we can tell you how to make the program automatically 'identify' you to the nickserv robot
[04:15] <elkbuntu> hehe
[04:16] <elkbuntu> if he is there with you, ask him to help you do what i suggested above :)
[04:16] <elkbuntu> it will make it alot easier
[04:18] <katkin> he says he will
[04:18] <katkin> I'm using XChat - GNOME
[04:18] <katkin> but I have a new machine coming tomoro
[04:18] <katkin> so might start using a different app
[04:18] <Daviey> katkin: you can't go too far wrong with Xchat
[04:18] <popey> yeah, it's not so bad
[04:20] <elkbuntu> katkin, well spads will be able to help you put your password in so you identify automatically with the new machine ;)
[04:21] <katkin> elkbuntu: cool
[04:21] <katkin> Daviey: thats good to know
[04:22] <katkin> even tho I've been with Canonical for 3 months now I still have loads to learn about Ubuntu!
[04:23] <elkbuntu> katkin, that's probably an ideal situation for you to be though. you're finding all the cool things about it, and you know how to get it across without the techie bias most of us have
[04:23] <katkin> elkbuntu: that's a very nice way of putting it :)
[04:26] <popey> would be nice if new users like yourself could keep a log of those things you find a) difficult b) different c) hard, so that we can fix them, or create better documentation, tutorials, screencasts etc
[04:26] <popey> one of the problems I have as a long term user of Linux and Ubuntu is that i don't know what people don't know
[04:26] <popey> so for example the screencasts I make are made based on my guess of what people want
[04:26] <popey> not through a poll or survey or anything
[04:29] <elkbuntu> hmm... well i want either a mouse that doesnt jump all over the place, or some way to make the gnome panel launchers need two clicks rather than one
[04:29] <elkbuntu> i still dont know if the latter is possible
[04:32] <popey> those are bugs/wishlists IMO, I was more thinking of those moments when you ask "how do I do this?"
[04:32] <elkbuntu> yeah, i only brought it up because i just opened openoffice when trying to do something else
[04:33] <elkbuntu> great for efficiency, and all that jazz
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[04:34] <elkbuntu> anyway, i need to drive 2 hrs to a group interview (oh joy! oh rapture!) tomorrow, so im going to head off
[04:34] <popey> you're going for a job!
[04:35] <elkbuntu> i go for many jobs
[04:35] <elkbuntu> most just never bother to reply to my application
[04:36] <elkbuntu> if i succeed with this, i will be working in a call center. ever so much fun
[04:37] <elkbuntu> i so bags not doing the shifts that cooincide with dinner times
[04:44] <Daviey> group interview... like a support group - but an interview?
[04:44] <Daviey> "My name is elkbuntu, and i'm a ubuntu addict"
[04:44] <elkbuntu> basically
[04:45] <elkbuntu> i've been to several where they stick you in a room and make you do personality tests, roleplay and stuff like that
[04:45] <elkbuntu> some can be downright ridiculous
[04:46] <elkbuntu> given this is for a callcenter, i'm imagining alot of roleplay :(
[04:46] <Daviey> $%^& that for a game of soldiers
[04:48] <elkbuntu> anyway, me > bed
[07:08] <tristanbob> is tribe 6 out yet?
[08:14] <popey> there is no tribe 6
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[11:46] <blahdeblah> Hi.  Is there a 1 or 2 page PDF flyer available that would be suitable for promoting Ubuntu's benefits to the average home (non-Linux-literate) user?
[11:51] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Leaflets