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[04:22] drada: you can ask in #ubuntu as well the answer will be the same on all versions of *buntu [04:22] thanks === drada [n=dm@ip68-11-113-171.no.no.cox.net] has left #edubuntu [] === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === joebaker [n=joebaker@rrcs-67-52-198-66.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [04:32] ogra: sbalneav: I just did a Jigdo build of edubuntu i386 server install gutsy and it came up to a 715MB image. [04:32] That's more that the 700MB limit. FYI... [04:32] I should be able to boot it from QEMU though. [04:33] fyi [04:36] heh, well, we'll have some compressing to do, then. === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.104.125] has joined #edubuntu [04:38] Smile... === _P_P__ [n=theface@60-231-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] === joris_ [i=joris@082-146-097-246.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@124.64.104.125] has joined #edubuntu === joris [i=joris@082-146-097-138.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === n2diy [n=darryl@wlk-barre-208-103-148-76.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net] has joined #edubuntu === froud_ [n=sean@dsl-242-191-75.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [i=jean@pot44-1-88-172-65-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd [10:09] sbalneav: ping === Baby [n=miry@195.37.62.208] has joined #edubuntu [10:11] ogra: ? === pips1 [n=philipp@158.178.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu === pips1 [n=philipp@158.178.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-9b1e21fb777d955e] has joined #edubuntu [11:20] ok... I want my request for assistance to be put up on the wiki as: "Assistance needed for Edubuntu Promotion Programme in India" === JohanSalim [i=G3b0ys@ip84-223.cbn.net.id] has joined #edubuntu [12:13] this looks kind of cool: http://blog.daniel-baumann.ch/2007/09/07#20070907_debian-live-web-boot === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #edubuntu [12:19] lol [12:25] ogra: would it be bad to run '/etc/init.d/moodle restart' in postrm? [12:25] a bit, yes [12:25] whats wrong with update-rc.d ? [12:25] ogra: I haven't checked yet (I was falling asleep at the kb last night) so I don't know how wwwconfig does it, but using invoke-rc.d instead of wwwconfig is causing our hang-on-removal problem. [12:26] (update-rc.d maintains a db so the system always knows what the status *should* be, if you circumvent that by running the initscript directly you produce an inconsistency here) [12:26] It's a weird problem, because postrm itself is completing and exiting, but the parent dpkg process isn't. [12:27] did you look into wwwconfig ? how it does it ? [12:27] does update-rc.d actually start/restart services, or does it just manipulate the startup/shutdown lists? [12:27] ogra: Read above. :) [12:28] Gotta run to work now; I'll start a source build with /etc/init.d/apache2 restart just for testing purposes. [12:28] it restarts as well [12:28] Ah - I didn't know that. Good to know. === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-9b1e21fb777d955e] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:29] moquist, just add the true [12:29] err [12:29] || true [12:29] thats what we do elsewhere [12:30] Already have it. [12:30] That's not the problem. [12:30] postrm is completing successfully and exiting with 0. [12:30] but apaches init isnt ? [12:30] seems to be [12:30] err [12:30] wait [12:30] And even if it isn't, we've got || true :) [12:30] you are running *update-rc.d* ? [12:31] (literally) [12:31] Here's what I had: invoke-rc.d ${webserver} reload || true [12:31] ah, k [12:31] you should wrap that in " if [ -e /etc/init.d/${webserver} ] ; then ...; fi" btw [12:32] k [12:32] anyway, go to work, i dont want to hold you up ... [12:32] :) [12:32] (i'll be here the whole day) === moquist nods [12:32] later === kgoetz [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@124.64.104.125] has joined #edubuntu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #edubuntu === kgoetz is now known as bambi_bofh === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o ogra] by ChanServ === ..[topic/#edubuntu:ogra] : Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | feisty (7.04) is released, see http://www.edubuntu.org/Download | * Today is FIX IT FRIDAY !! * come join us fixing bugs ! [01:10] Morning all! [01:10] hey hey [01:11] 6AM, i'm ready to roll! [01:11] :) === shriphani [n=shriphan@219.91.188.167] has joined #edubuntu [01:17] sbalneav, https://bugs.launchpad.net/~edubuntu-bugs/ :( [01:17] i thought edubuntu-bugs is subscribed to all our packges, seems i was wrong [01:18] Yeah, it's the bugsquad one that's got all the goodies: [01:19] https://bugs.launchpad.net/~edubuntu-bugs/+packagebugs [01:19] However, for the first URL, I have fixes for 2 of those bugs!!!! [01:20] Lets squash 'em!!!! [01:20] which ones ? [01:20] i just talked about the dhcpd one with mjg59 [01:20] thats slightly tricky [01:20] but i'll look into it [01:21] bug #48212 [01:21] Launchpad bug 48212 in ltsp "ltsp's dhcpd fails after server is hibernated" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48212 [01:21] yeah, that one [01:21] Really? That one seems simple [01:21] can't we just add the dhcp3-server onto the end of the restart services tring? [01:21] no [01:21] I chatted with jo baker, it works a treat [01:21] /etc/default/acpi-support is a conffile [01:21] no? [01:22] it will need proper resume.d and suspend.d scripts [01:22] just changing that file will break upgrades [01:22] (you get a conffile prompt) [01:23] ok, so if we add a suspend.d (dhcp3 stop) and resume (dhcp3 start) will that fix it? [01:23] right [01:23] and it needs to go into the dhcpd package then ... [01:23] ok, lemme have a look where those fuiles should be put [01:23] ok, fair enough, that's simple [01:24] whicjh in turn will need to deped on the package creating suspend.d and resume.d dirs === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [01:24] isnt that one part of the main ubuntu metapackage, and always installed? [01:25] sure, but you cant assume the ubuntu-meta package is there ;) [01:25] k [01:25] i.e. you could install a commandline system and just add dhcpd to it [01:25] that would fail if the dirs are missing to put the files in === ogra writes a CD to see the new udeb in action (or watch it breaking :P ) [01:27] probably what, 66-dhcpd-stop.sh? [01:27] in /etc/acpi/suspend.d [01:28] hmm, not sure [01:28] (about 66) [01:28] that'd be right after the stop-services one [01:28] yeah [01:29] make it 65 as well [01:29] ok [01:29] its a service too :) [01:30] (i was actually worried that stop-services could kill something dhcpd needs, but thats up to the user anyway) [01:30] I assume I should put these two scripts in the debian dir? [01:30] and install them from there? [01:31] yeah [01:32] btw, some minor refactoring in ltsp-update-images, to fix it so that it doesn't crap out violently if you've run it on a dir that's NOT wanting an nbd image. [01:32] in my tree. [01:34] there is a lot that needs to be fixed in ltsp-update-image [01:34] i'll go through that over the weekend [01:34] all the inetd and port handling isnt right as is atm [01:49] boah [01:49] bug 70471 is bad [01:49] Launchpad bug 70471 in denemo "Printing doesn't work if xpdf binary isn't installed - denemo should use evince or depend on xpdf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70471 [01:54] ogra: got a second to help me here? [01:55] sure [01:55] I'm looking at the dhcp3-server package [01:55] whats your prob [01:56] I'm wondering what the BEST way to add these files is, the've got some stuff in the rules file that they're just using a cp /debian/blah into the dest, but somehow I suspect that isn't right. [01:56] right [01:57] really, I want to list them in dhcp3-server.files [01:57] but where to put them so that that phase of dh_whatever finds them? [01:58] .files [01:58] right, that i've got. [01:58] but WHERE in the directory do I put them? [01:58] the startup and shutdown script [01:58] hmm [01:59] hmm [01:59] actually i wouldnt object a cp here [01:59] given that the package is already doing pretty crazy stuff [02:00] so, stick 'em in debian, and just munge the rules file to do a copy? [02:00] yeah [02:00] ok, that I can handle. [02:00] id put them into debian/acpi-scripts or so [02:00] ok, makes sense. [02:01] and then just a cp in the install-tsmp target [02:01] i suspect I'll learn more about packaging today :) [02:01] *stamp [02:06] gah, denemo is a big bad mess === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage === TelnetManta [n=benwilli@72.159.132.4] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@200.113.28.118] has joined #edubuntu === shriphani [n=shriphan@219.91.188.167] has joined #edubuntu [02:46] hello. [02:54] hello === shriphani [n=shriphan@219.91.188.167] has joined #edubuntu [03:25] ogra: Back from snacktime? [03:26] long ago [03:26] discusssing bug 123808 with asac :/ [03:26] Launchpad bug 123808 in network-manager "NetworkManager Applet does not recognize ethernet bonding. " [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123808 [03:27] hello ogra, sbalneav [03:28] !pastebin [03:28] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [03:28] ogra: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36686/ [03:29] hello shriphani [03:30] Closes Bug: 48212 [03:30] must be Closes LP: #48212 [03:30] that will trigger the auto closing ;) [03:31] right I made a few slides. Who wants to have a look ? [03:33] ok, want me to change it, or you will? [03:33] do it :) === shriphani [n=shriphan@219.91.188.167] has joined #edubuntu [03:34] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36687/ [03:34] dang. [03:35] shriphani: post a link. [03:35] did anyone recieve my last message ? [03:35] ok.. [03:35] or do I put the odp up for download ? [03:35] Well, whatever you prefer. [03:35] ok. [03:36] ogra: it builds and installs correctly [03:39] where does the dev work take place. i.e. the mailing lists and so on ? [03:40] ubuntu-dev mailing list, and this channel and #ubuntu-dev [03:40] #ubuntu-devel, sory [03:41] the edubuntu-dev mailing list, I should say [03:41] geez, makin' mistakes all over. [03:42] sbalneav: http://shriphani.nipl.net === stpaul [n=stpaul@ool-44c7e914.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:44] Hi all === froud_ [n=sean@dsl-242-191-75.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [03:44] I am having issues with thin clients not having a gui login [03:45] it will only show the cursor with an x [03:45] did you fiddle with any settings or is that a default setup ? [03:45] default setting [03:46] I am using a amd64 ltspserver setup [03:46] the onjly thing I change [03:46] building the client for a i386 === Castigador [n=Alfredo@88.Red-80-38-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:52] The thin clients used to have a login gui before [03:54] ogra: Thoughts on Bug #38410? [03:54] Launchpad bug 38410 in sabayon "sabayon blocks ssh based ltsp logins if not user profiles are created" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38410 [03:55] Is adding || true on to the end legitimate? [03:56] well [03:56] you might miss a lot of error messages, who knows [03:56] but it would get the thing going finally [03:57] prob with sabayon is that its largely unmaintained ... [03:57] I'm suspecting I'll have to take it over :) [03:57] from redhat ? [03:57] So can we patch it that way for now? [03:57] heh [03:58] I'll just barge into their offices, grab it, and walk out. [03:58] They'll all go: "Who was that masked coder" [03:58] jajajajaa [03:58] lol [03:59] ok, I'll produce a debdiff. We can [03:59] lets just patch it for now and ignore the fact that we might have broken it ... [03:59] we'll hopefully get bugreports if we did [03:59] 't keep telling people to use it if it's so badly borken :) [03:59] even though [03:59] ok, I'll fix [03:59] what if /usr/sbin/sabayon-apply got fixed instead ? [04:00] OK, I'll have a look [04:00] see if that's more valid. [04:00] to return 0 [04:00] it's python, so I should be able to use my python-fu [04:00] that wont break the other returning functions ;) [04:00] about the thin client gui problem [04:00] its not an issue anymore [04:00] it just took to long to lad [04:00] what was it6 ? [04:01] load [04:01] thats feisty ? [04:01] yes [04:01] what kind of clients ? [04:01] dell gx1 optiplex [04:01] heh [04:01] CPU and RAM specs ? [04:01] 64 ram [04:01] 333 mhz [04:01] that should be plenty [04:02] are they all the same ? [04:02] yes [04:02] sbalneav: ? [04:02] See, here's the problem: [04:02] i have 7 machines [04:02] to speed them up significantly you can use a static xorg.conf [04:02] with the same specs [04:02] profile_name = userdb.get_database().get_profile (user_name) [04:02] if not profile_name: [04:02] sys.stderr.write (_("No profile for user '%s' found\n") % user_name) [04:02] sys.exit (util.EXIT_CODE_FATAL) [04:03] the X autodetection is one of the heviest slowdowns there (we changed such stuff in gutsy) [04:03] oh ok [04:03] sbalneav, easy [04:03] s/util.EXIT_CODE_FATAL/0/ [04:04] So, I guess the question is, really, what we want is a command line option like --permissive, or --firm, or something, that says, if there ISNT a user profile, return 0 if permissive, 1 if firm [04:04] well, someone may WANT sabayon to not allow logins if there's not a profile :) [04:04] feel free to make it optional :) [04:04] ok [04:04] lemme hack it a bit. Default will be permissive, like we want. [04:05] shriphani: I'll get to it when I can. [04:05] it's bugfixing day today, so I'm pretty busy [04:05] I see there is a ltsp manager in development [04:06] any new that it will be available for gutsy [04:06] i fear it wont make it [04:06] unless i find some extra time [04:06] oh [04:06] how about extra help from other coders? [04:06] well, its only a gui for lts.conf :) [04:07] sure [04:07] feel free to adopt it [04:07] thanks === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu [04:08] will take a look at tht [04:10] Heya === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [04:14] hi [04:15] I have updated the ssh keys and the thin clients still cant login [04:15] shriphani: I take it you're a student? Talking to admins? [04:16] admins at school ? [04:16] i will be. [04:16] prolly next week. [04:16] trouble is that i am the only one in the entire city doing this. [04:16] the Loco team is a inactive pos. [04:18] You're presentation comes off as a bit confrontational to me. As well, you've got a factual error. Edubuntu will be offered as an OPTION on the classmate, it won't be the default. [04:18] ooh.. [04:18] well i'll change that. [04:18] stpaul, anything in ~/.xsession-errors of the user ? [04:20] what bugs are you fixing btw ? [04:22] where is thatlog error [04:23] Right now? Bug #38410 [04:23] Launchpad bug 38410 in sabayon "sabayon blocks ssh based ltsp logins if not user profiles are created" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38410 [04:23] i have a copy of that .xsession-errors [04:23] where should i paste it [04:24] !pastebin [04:24] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [04:25] sbalneav, Bug #137461 ... last comment :)) [04:25] Launchpad bug 137461 in ltsp "xdmcp does not work due to syntax error in shell script" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137461 [04:29] So, his X isn't configuring, looks like [04:30] yeah [04:30] well, i suspect he apt-get just upgraded the chroot [04:30] err [04:31] well, i suspect he just apt-get upgraded the chroot === ogra pokes his jumpy cursor [04:31] Sorry, looks lke the dep was a bad idear. [04:32] lol [04:32] :) [04:33] ok where are the bugs.... i might take a shot at them (not too optimistic tho) [04:34] https://bugs.launchpad.net/~edubuntu-bugs/+packagebugs [04:34] err shriphani [04:34] https://bugs.launchpad.net/~edubuntu-bugs/+packagebugs [04:34] ah, snap === mode/#edubuntu [-o ogra] by ogra [04:34] there's a -o ogra mode? [04:35] well, something with the channel changed ... you can set topics only as op [04:35] i dont like that [04:36] Man, you ARE powerful [04:36] hmm so those are the bugs..... "couldn't install etc... [04:39] ogra: you removing the dep on dhcpd? [04:40] yes === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu [04:40] just dont getting your patch to apply the rules file properly [04:41] what the h*ll am I doing wrong? [04:41] It seems no one can ever apply my debdifs cleanly. [04:41] I fix the bug [04:41] debuild -etc [04:41] pbuilder build [04:42] check install [04:42] and then just debdiff old.dsc new.dsc [04:43] well, i take your diff , save it and run patch -p1 --dry-run <../schotts.patchfile in the source dir [04:43] it rejected the complete rules part [04:43] for no apparent reason [04:49] sbalneav@edubuntu:~/FIF/dhcp3-3.0.5$ patch -p1 --dry-run < ../debdiff.dhcp3 [04:49] patching file debian/control [04:49] patching file debian/rules [04:49] patching file debian/changelog [04:49] patching file debian/dhcp3-server.files [04:49] patching file debian/acpi-scripts/65-dhcpd-stop.sh [04:49] patching file debian/acpi-scripts/69-dhcpd-start.sh [04:50] Maybe something the pastebin's doing to it? [04:50] I'm dcc'ing you the file [04:51] i'm already uploading :) [04:51] but for a ccheck ... [04:51] you seeing the file request? [04:51] yes, i accepted it [04:51] hmm [04:52] i guess its a prob with the pasted text [04:52] it's not transferring [04:52] try again [04:52] it prbably timed out, i was on the other client [04:52] Didn't there used to be some module on the firewall box you needed to get this going? [04:53] copy and paste ? [04:54] oh, you mean xchat [04:54] no, that usuallyworks [04:54] k, trying now, one sec [04:55] got a: Connection refused [04:55] Anything? [04:55] from your side it seems [04:55] crumb [04:55] something with my firewall [04:55] Q-Funk sent me loads of docsa for the linuxbiuos stuff recently, so i know it works (or used to) [04:55] crud, I'll just mail 'em to you from now on [04:56] well, pastebin should work as well, i wonder why it doesnt [04:56] oh, since we got mkelfImage promoted to main, we need to get that added to the chroot, so his client works. [05:02] wqont it clash with mknbi ? === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp144-56.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #edubuntu [05:03] (or are you sure mkelfImage is a proper 1:1 replacement ?) [05:03] Seems to be, from my testing [05:03] oh, ok [05:03] so lets drop mknbi :) [05:03] I've tested a couple of nbi clients. Lets hold off, until I test a few more [05:03] we have it in main now [05:04] I haven't tested the latest boot floppies from etherboot yet [05:04] so no need to hurry, its a opne line change in the deps :) [05:04] right [05:04] still lots of time. [05:17] arrgh, gotta update my pbuilder [05:17] close to sending you a debdiff on the sabayon bug [05:18] cool === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === backpro [n=backpro@bzq-79-178-44-63.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:20] hello can i install edubuntu in normal ubuntu ?? [05:20] using apt-get install edubuntu-desktop ?? [05:20] That won't create the ltsp stuff, you'll have to do it manuallly, but yes, that will work [05:22] what is ltsp stuff ?? [05:22] can you explain to me plzz ?? [05:24] Thin client, running several diskless machines off one server === raynerd [n=raynerd@79-65-78-77.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #edubuntu [05:46] hello, any edubuntu developers in here? [05:46] some, yes [05:46] I`m a teacher in the UK, and this summer I joined the world of open source. [05:47] raynerd, cheers [05:47] :D [05:47] Only 24 myself, had microsoft forced down my throat for 14 years, and wanted to give the kids an opportunity to use linux [05:48] I have installed a dual boot with edubuntu on my work pc, but the IT staff will not allow me to install linux on the kids computers === boyam [n=boyam@208.104.11.156] has joined #edubuntu [05:48] raynerd, It takes a little getting used to for them [05:48] be patient [05:48] install on a computer for them to try and get them familiar with it [05:48] I am happy that the students could boot up an edubuntu live CD, I want to mainly use science programs and openoffice. [05:49] BUT, there is an INSTALL option that I MUST remove from the live CD before I use it with them. Is there a way to do this? [05:49] raynerd, get the it people involved ... so that they become more permissive in the end [05:49] raynerd, also try out some of the apps on windows for them to feel confortable and the have them switch back a forth [05:50] haha, i`m not even going that way! I`m a young teacher, they dont really know me and are very busy reforming the school management system. I have no chance with that line of attack! [05:50] raynerd, you can customize the CD (just remove the ubiquity package) there is a howto on the wiki [05:50] i`m new to linux myself, can u send a link] [05:51] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization === froud_ is now known as froud [05:55] hummm, looks hard! [05:56] do edubuntu not do a live only CD version? [05:57] no, thats the desktop installer [05:57] :( [05:57] buggr [05:57] er [05:58] raynerd fire up an ancient box which also is capable of serving you as a door-stopper. [06:00] then let's see the management's reply. [06:01] management or the it staff whoever is the nutter. [06:02] raynerd, if the machines are network-boot capable and you have a spare beefy machine, you could set up an ltsp server, if a kid netboots the machine it will iuse linux over the net then [06:02] if it boots locally it will use whatever is installed in disk [06:48] Bug #36884 [06:48] Launchpad bug 36884 in kdeedu "Can't type accented vowels" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36884 [06:49] yeah, just got a mail from that [06:49] so did i [06:49] obviously not fior us [06:50] yep [07:05] ogra: Bug #127294 looks kind of icky. [07:05] Launchpad bug 127294 in gpaint "Gpaint crashes when draggin toolbox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127294 [07:05] well, we coud drop gpaint ... [07:05] ogra: btw, can you sync and push new ltspfs? [07:05] will do [07:06] sync from upstream [07:06] drop gpaint? nah. Kids'll use it [07:06] no [07:06]