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mptGoooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!01:30
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ubotuNew bug: #137884 in launchpad "Caption for "Duplicated Account" field in +requestmerge isn't useful" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13788406:35
jmlI read that as "Captain Duplicated Account"06:48
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ubotuNew bug: #137886 in launchpad "Tabs are broken in "Merge Launchpad accounts" pages (+requestmerge, +mergerequestsent)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13788606:50
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ubotuNew bug: #137907 in launchpad "Launchpad needs a global help page" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13790708:40
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carlosmorning09:09
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ubotuNew bug: #137910 in launchpad-bazaar "Eliminate user@ portion of ssh codehosting URLs" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13791009:35
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mrevellMorning Launchpadders!09:39
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lagamorning mrevell 09:54
mrevellhey laga, I'm gonna be afk for five minutes09:54
lagano worries, was just saying hi09:54
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mrevelllaga ah right :) Hi!10:04
ubotuNew bug: #137914 in launchpad "gkrellm shows to many processes in display" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13791410:05
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ubotuNew bug: #137921 in soyuz "Rejection mail for PPA upload with invalid component gives additional confusing errors" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13792110:45
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AlinuxOShello, yesterday I've uploaded nautilus.po file to Georgian language... but I can't find it in https://translations.launchpad.net/nautilus/+imports?field.filter_status=all&field.filter_extension=po  imports.11:37
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ubotuNew bug: #137928 in launchpad "RSS for bugs creation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13792812:11
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ubotuNew bug: #137932 in rosetta "Bad extension filter on +import page not handled properly" [Low,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13793212:25
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AlinuxOShello all, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/nautilus/+imports my upstream stranslation is imported, but no new strings appear hear. where is the problem?01:25
mptjtv, ^01:27
AlinuxOSmpt, jtv would help me ?01:28
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mptor danilo_ might :-)01:29
jtvAlinuxOS: Just a moment, I'm looking at it...01:30
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AlinuxOSjtv, ah sorry.01:30
AlinuxOSdanilos, hello ;)01:30
danilosAlinuxOS: hi Vladimer :)01:31
jtvAlinuxOS: some failures there...01:31
jtvAlinuxOS: what translations did you upload besides the ones listed on that URL you just pasted?01:33
AlinuxOSfor the moment.... I've commited some translations and corrections to upstream GNOME svn, with msgfmt -cv nautilus/po/ka.po -o /dev/null 01:34
AlinuxOS995 translated messages, 165 untranslated messages.01:34
AlinuxOS  - output01:34
AlinuxOSso I've imported that into rosetta 01:34
AlinuxOSas "Published upload"01:34
jtvAlinuxOS: but the ka.po is still waiting to be processed.01:35
AlinuxOScause it's upstream nautilus po file.01:35
AlinuxOShttps://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/nautilus/+imports01:35
AlinuxOShere it shows me 2007-09-05 15:22:42 CEST01:36
AlinuxOSbut I've uploaded more recent file today.01:36
jtvWhich one is that?01:36
jtvSame one?01:36
AlinuxOShm... may I delete this one and then reapload a new one?01:36
AlinuxOStoday I've uploaded more recent file.01:37
jtvIIRC the new file will just take the old one's place, but with the same timestamp (right danilos?)01:37
jtvAlinuxOS: you uploaded a more recent version _of ka.po_ today?01:37
danilosAlinuxOS, jtv: more recent version is in there01:37
AlinuxOSjtv, yes.01:37
AlinuxOSand I would like to remove that old one.01:37
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AlinuxOShttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/9163033/ka.po  <-01:38
danilosjtv: you can follow the 'edit' link, and you'll  see the updated "Status changed" which shows "1 hours ago" (ugh, we need plural forms in Launchpad :))01:38
jtvdanilos, the new version automatically replaced the old one, right?01:38
danilosjtv: that's  right01:38
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sitsI'm currently having trouble with01:38
jtvAlinuxOS: so no need to change that, it's automatic01:38
sitshttp://codebrowse.launchpad.net/01:38
AlinuxOSjtv, yes but I need to upload a new nautilus.po file.01:39
jtvAlinuxOS: a new template (nautilus.pot)?01:39
AlinuxOSjtv, and import queue does't show me the recent upload.01:39
jtvAlinuxOS: no, the queue still shows the old date but takes the new file.01:40
sitsI'm getting a 500 internal error when following a specific action01:40
danilosAlinuxOS: we have a bug that timestamp is not updated there, but it's working correctly01:40
AlinuxOSjtv, freshly updated Georgian (ka) nautilus file, called ka.po01:40
jtvAlinuxOS: yes, the new file is already in the queue.  The queue shows the *date* of the old file, but the *new* file will be imported.01:41
danilosAlinuxOS: it's all fine and cool, it will be imported (we also have ~3500 entries to import first, which are waiting in the queue already)01:41
sitsis there anyone I can report the problem to?01:41
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danilossits: we are looking for someone to help you :)01:42
sitsdanilos: thank you01:42
jtvdanilos: once again you're a sentence ahead of me :)01:42
AlinuxOSdanilos, ah :D COOL! :) hehe...and how much time is needed for similar (1250 circa string) files?01:42
jtvAlinuxOS: not long, but first we have to finish a lot of other files!01:43
danilosAlinuxOS: it will take a few days until we get to it, unfortunately... we need to prioritise human uploads, though01:43
jtvAlinuxOS: there are a lot of Gutsy translations waiting at the moment.01:44
AlinuxOSah ok guys don't worry for me...I can wait entire day if needed.01:44
sitsdanilos: (that was very timely - given there was a background conversation I would have just wandered away if you hadn't mention it : )01:44
AlinuxOSdanilos the problem is that I've uploaded 2 times yesterday...si I don't know...how launchpad will manage the same file uploads...01:45
AlinuxOSwill launchpad cancel older queues ?01:45
Le-Chuck_IT1I am trying to join the launchpad beta testers01:45
Le-Chuck_IT1team01:45
danilosAlinuxOS: yeah, just don't worry aboutt it01:45
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Le-Chuck_IT1at https://help.launchpad.net/JoiningLaunchpadBetaTesters I read01:46
Le-Chuck_IT1Step 5: Email  feedback@launchpad.net to confirm that you agree to the membership conditions.01:46
Le-Chuck_IT1do I have to send it or wait for an e-mail to which I will reply?01:46
AlinuxOSdanilos, ok...so sing me that song: "Don't Worry Be Happy....tooo to to to to toto tu tutuu"01:46
danilosAlinuxOS: :)01:46
AlinuxOSdanilos, jtv guys have a nice day!01:46
danilossits: it seems the guy who's in charge of codebrowser is asleep -- I guess it's best if you either file a question on answers.launchpad.net or file a bug, depending on what do you think it is :)01:47
jtvAlinuxOS: same to you!01:47
danilosAlinuxOS: thanks :)01:47
sitsdanilos: fair enough01:48
sitsdanilos: which component?01:48
SteveAhi sits 01:48
sits(for a bug report)01:48
SteveAwhat's up?01:48
jtvLe-Chuck_IT1: just a moment while I ask elsewhere01:48
sitsSteveA: I get a 500 server error when trying to compare to changes using Bazaar01:49
sitsSteveA: bear with me while I get you the link01:49
SteveAgot a URL I can try out?01:49
SteveAta01:49
sitshttp://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~asac/intellinuxwireless/ipw3945.asac/revision/asac%40jwsdot.com-20070904111223-40rtpvbfig8p0rky?start_revid=asac%40jwsdot.com-20070904111223-40rtpvbfig8p0rky&remember=asac%40jwsdot.com-20070902190808-04yv9pno12czzbx701:49
sitsSteveA: and then click on01:49
sitsSteveA:  compare with revision 101:49
sits(sorry you just caught me about to have lunch)01:49
sitsproblem seems reproducible every time01:50
SteveAI see the problem01:51
sitsSteveA: cool01:51
SteveAsits: what's your launchpad user name?  I get someone to look into this, and I can add you as a subscriber when we file a bug01:51
sitsSteveA: sitsofe01:51
SteveAcool.  thanks for telling us about this.01:51
sitsSteveA: no problem. When folks point me in the right direction I try to take the time to mention this stuff01:52
sits(the catch is it all takes time unfortunately)01:52
Le-Chuck_IT1jtv: I have to go away for a while01:57
Le-Chuck_IT1will come back later01:57
jtvLe-Chuck_IT1: just getting an answer now!01:58
Le-Chuck_IT1ah ok I'll wait01:58
Le-Chuck_IT1jtv: did you get any private message?01:58
jtvLe-Chuck_IT1: mrevell says to write that (1) you will use your full real name as your Launchpad displayname, and (2) you will not talk publicly about the features you will be testing. 01:59
Le-Chuck_IT1ok, doing this01:59
Le-Chuck_IT1thanks a lot01:59
jtvLe-Chuck_IT1: that second requirement will change soon though, and Matt says he will clarify the page.01:59
jtvLe-Chuck_IT1: np, and thanks for helping us test!01:59
Le-Chuck_IT1ok bye01:59
mrevellLe-Chuck_IT1: Sorry I didn't see your question initially. I look forward to welcoming you to the beta team!01:59
Le-Chuck_IT1thank you, I am looking forward to test, too :)02:00
jtvLe-Chuck_IT1: ^^ the guy who answered your question :-)02:00
Le-Chuck_IT1yes I see02:00
SteveAhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/13794902:00
ubotuLaunchpad bug 137949 in launchpad-bazaar "codebrowse failure when comparing revisions " [Medium,Confirmed]   - Assigned to Michael Hudson (mwhudson)02:00
ubotuNew bug: #137949 in launchpad-bazaar "codebrowse failure when comparing revisions " [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13794902:01
sitsSteveA: cheers02:01
sitsSteveA: and I'm already subscribed - marvellous!02:01
Le-Chuck_IT1ok, mail sent, bye all and see you soon02:03
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mwhudsonsits: hm, i _think_ that problem is fixed in the code that just landed in mainline a few minutes ago02:27
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sitsmwhudson: now that's _insanely_ fast02:29
mwhudsonsits: lucky :)02:29
mwhudsonsits: i think it's fixed now, do you want to check too?02:33
sitsmwhudson: sorry just reading MS mini02:34
sitsmwhudson: sure02:34
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mwhudsonsits: sure "you'll check", or sure "it's fixed"?02:35
sitsmwhudson: beautiful02:35
mwhudsonnp02:35
sitsmwhudson: it's fixed02:35
mwhudsonyay, that went easily :)02:38
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sitsit's weird. The bzr problem I was having last week just upped and vanished today02:45
sitstoo02:45
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ubotuNew bug: #137964 in launchpad-bazaar "make run_all should run codebrowse.launchpad.dev" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13796403:00
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norsettosorry guys, where do one file a PPA bug?03:37
Hobbseenorsetto: i'd guess https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/03:40
Hobbseemrevell: ping03:41
norsettoHobbsee: \o/03:41
mrevellhey gob03:41
Hobbseenorsetto: may be somewhere more specialised, i'm no tsure03:41
Hobbseemrevell: can you help as to where the ppa bug filing is?03:41
mrevellHobbsee: Yes, no problem, you file it under Soyuz, tagged as ppa. Let me get the link:03:41
mrevellnorsetto: https://bugs.launchpad.net/soyuz/+filebug03:42
mrevellnorsetto: then tag with ppa03:42
Hobbseehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/soyuz/03:42
norsettook thanks both03:42
Hobbseeah yes, i thought some of these bugs would come up03:42
mrevellHobbsee: btw - didn't mean to greet you with "hey gob". My finger slipped and, of course, the autocomplete didn't work...03:42
Hobbsee:)03:43
Hobbseei figured03:43
norsettomrevell: whats wrong with gob? you should see how she calls me ....03:43
mrevell:)03:43
Hobbseemrevell: can you get https://bugs.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/137767 fixed soon, please?03:44
ubotuLaunchpad bug 137767 in soyuz "Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed in PPA uploads closes Ubuntu bugs" [Undecided,New]  03:44
mrevelllemme take a look03:44
norsettook, no need to file another one :-D03:45
Hobbseenorsetto: hehe, was that the one?03:45
norsettoHobbsee: :-)03:45
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Hobbseeyou'd only be the third to file it. that's quite good03:45
norsettothe first time I saw that yesterday I almost had an heart attack ....03:46
norsettoWHO UPLOADED THAT BLOODY NON WORKING PATCH :-)03:46
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mrevellI can definitely let cprov know you guys need it fixed sooner than later.03:47
Hobbseehaha03:47
Hobbseemrevell: when does cprov get back?03:47
mrevellHobbsee: monday afaik03:47
Hobbseeright03:48
Hobbseehmm, there are some interesting looking bugs in soyz03:48
Hobbseeer, soyuz03:49
Hobbseemrevell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/136399 is also a candidate for high-prio fixing there03:50
ubotuLaunchpad bug 136399 in soyuz "PPA builders performing normal Ubuntu binary mangling" [Undecided,New]  03:50
Hobbseesame sort of issue03:50
Hobbsee(ohhh!  so *that's* why MOTU ML is getting mails about ppa packages now - because it's saying that MOTU is the maintainer..)03:52
mrevellHobbsee: Thanks, lemme take a look at that too03:54
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RinchenI've upgrade bug 137767 to high priority04:16
ubotuLaunchpad bug 137767 in soyuz "Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed in PPA uploads closes Ubuntu bugs" [High,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13776704:16
HobbseeRinchen: great, thanks :)04:16
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ubotuNew bug: #137997 in malone "+filebug-advanced should have Importance, Status and Assigne fields" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13799705:11
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xhakerHi.. How does one remove a package from PPA?05:47
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Rinchenbigjools, ^^06:09
Rinchenmrevell, we should include this ^^ in the quickstart guide if it's not there.06:09
bigjoolsxhaker: I don't think you can yet06:09
mrevellRinchen: Agreed. I'll add a message that it's not yet possible.06:10
Rinchensweet. Thank you both06:10
xhakerbigjools, no problem.. just bumped the package version. yes, the current wording on the guide made me think there was that possibility06:11
mrevellxhaker: Ah, sorry the current wording confused you. Which bit in particular? I'll fix it.06:11
xhakermrevell, thumbs up06:11
bigjoolsxhaker: the old files will get purged if they are no longer in use by a package06:11
bigjoolswell - the work to do that is in progress anyway :)06:12
xhakermrevell, "How long are packages published?"06:13
xhakerin this section06:13
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xhaker"Packages will remain published until either you remove them yourself,"06:13
mrevellxhaker: Ah, I see. Okay, thanks. Fair point! I'll fix that now.06:13
xhakermrevell, thumbs up again.. amazing work you've been doing.. ppa is great.. and dholbach already did a nifty tool to use it :D06:14
mrevellxhaker: I heard about dholbach's tool today, yeah, I need to go take a look at that.06:15
xhakermrevell, the only problem is the .lpcookie step06:15
mrevellxhaker: in Daniel's tool?06:15
xhakermaybe there could be a page in launchpad to expose an API key or something06:15
xhakermrevell, yes.. in revuput.. dholbach uses the browser cookie i think06:16
xhakerbut you'd have to copy it yourself to .lpcookie06:16
xhakerthat's what i understand from the mail06:16
mrevellxhaker: Ah, I see. In terms of exposing an API key, I'd suggest posting launchpad-users and cc'ing Celso.06:16
xhakermrevell, I'm saying this because maybe revuput could use that key to do whatever it does. Not sure.06:17
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mrevellxhaker: right06:19
norsettoxhaker: did you get the input from dholbach about konqueror too?06:34
xhakernorsetto, i don't think i did. 06:36
norsettoxhaker: its not that important, but I think konqueror is using a format of the cookies file which is different from the mozilla one, so the .lpcookie doesn't work with that06:37
xhakernorsetto, yes.. i figured it would be a bit of work to get all cookies to work.. the APIkey + launchpad API changes to accomodate that app would be easier06:39
xhakeron the tool side that is06:39
xhakersorry for proposing more work for the launchpad chaps.. i did not mean to.. you're doing a great work already06:40
xhaker:D06:40
ubotuNew bug: #138021 in loggerhead "loggerhead should generate links based on revision numbers and file paths" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13802106:40
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sjohanneshi, is it normal that people are only able to see my bzr changesets after a few hours?06:52
sjohannes(in a branch in LP)06:53
ddaait depends on the type of the branch06:54
ddaawhat is the url of the page of the branch on Launchpad?06:54
sjohanneshttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~exaile-devel/exaile/main06:54
ddaaWhen someone asks for "the url of the page in Launchpad", they expect an URL like https://code.launchpad.net/~exaile-devel/exaile/main06:55
sjohannesoh yes sorry, didn't see that you asked for the webpage06:56
ddaaMh, this branch is hosted, so normally your changes should appear very quickly.06:56
ddaa(a few minutes)06:56
ddaaBut there is a bug open about cases where that is not done quickly.06:56
ddaaA race condition was fixed in the code, so we hope the problem will go away next release.06:57
ddaaIn about one week and a half.06:57
sjohannesok, i'll watch for it06:57
sjohannesthanks ddaa06:57
ddaaIf I understand the race correctly06:58
ddaait happens when you push multiple times to the same branch in a short time06:58
ddaa(as this happens when you use a checkout and do frequent commits)06:58
ddaais that your case?06:58
sjohannesddaa: how short?06:58
sjohannesddaa: no, i'm using branch and push06:59
ddaashort time = a few minutes06:59
sjohannesnot really, there's a few hours' gap06:59
ddaaokay06:59
ddaabtw07:00
ddaathis branch is owned by a team07:00
ddaateam member should always be able to see your changes instantly through sftp or bzr+ssh07:00
sjohannesok. good to know that07:01
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VernonColeHello everyone.   I am shopping for a web application framework. What toolkit is launchpad written with?07:17
ddaaZope07:18
ddaaPlus a large amount of home-made infrastructure.07:18
ddaaActually, Zope3.07:18
VernonColeSo if I learn Zope3 I will have a better handle on launchpad?07:18
ddaauh07:19
ddaaUnless you are a Launchpad developer, understanding Zope3 will not help you much.07:19
ddaaThe things there are to know about Launchpad are launhcpad-specific, nothing to do with the framework.07:20
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ddaaAlso, Launchpad uses postgresql, not zodb, not it's not typical at all as far as Zope3 apps go.07:21
VernonColeI want to do some work on STORM, and don't want to have to unlearn anything.07:21
ddaaSTORM is an ORM, it is only a small part of the launchpad infrastructure.07:21
ddaaAnd you should be able to understand and contribute to it without the broader picture.07:22
VernonColeUnderstood.  I am the implementer of adodbapi.py and I want to hook STORM to it.07:23
VernonColeMy day job requires a web page and I want to use what canonical uses.07:23
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RinchenVernonCole, have you seen  https://storm.canonical.com/ ?07:25
RinchenVernonCole, you should join the storm mailing list and post your questions there.07:25
ddaaAs far as web frameworks go, you should probably not consider Zope unless you are going for a webapp with more than 10 developers.07:27
ddaaMaybe look at grok, or django.07:27
VernonColeThe app will be running on a Windows (IIS) server. django is out. Would grok work?07:28
ddaauh07:28
intellectronicaor web.py, which is really simple and can get you started very quickly - all of the above will work with storm, b.t.w, with a bit of tweaking07:28
ddaaNot the least clue about IIS compatibility. Though my best advice here is "stay away from IIS".07:29
intellectronicaVernonCole: why should IIS be a problem. python is cross-platform, people do run python webapps on windows. or does django have a special limitation?07:29
VernonColeMy quick review of django yesterday looks like it only works well with apache and is hard to set up on Windows.07:30
VernonColeAs for IIS, I am forced into that chioce by my employer.  They hate me for using python rather than visual basic.07:31
intellectronicaVernonCole: i doubt that, but anyway, check out web.py ( https://launchpad.net/webpy ), i know for sure that people are using it with IIS07:31
VernonColeOkay.  I am on my way to ckeck out webpy.  Thanks for the help!07:32
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sabdflevening all08:39
xhakergood evening!08:40
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beunocarlos, ping  :D08:52
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reconIs there any way to kill an account?09:39
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ubotuNew bug: #138088 in soyuz "ppa Instructions unclear" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13808811:15
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