[02:20] <xivulo1> if anyone is interested in helping out on the artwork for the ubuntu windows installer, please let me know via email (gmail): agostino . russo
[11:32] <troy_s> kwwii: Added yet another to the wiki.  On a side note, if you have the 'shorterlist' finished, I can do the leg work of montaging them and such.
[11:33] <kwwii> troy_s: cool, I'll check it out...the list should go online by monday I guess
[11:33] <kwwii> I'll let you know if I need help :-)
[11:34] <kwwii> it is now empty and I intend to keep it that way
[11:39] <kwwii> I could use some ideas on formating the page...let's talk about that when the list is ready
[11:43] <troy_s> kwwii: Well _someone_ had to clean that queue out.
[11:43] <troy_s> kwwii: I offered to volunteer for some of it, but there wasn't a reply.
[11:44] <kwwii> seems like the moderators that are listed are not very active anymore
[11:44] <kwwii> we should have a meeting sometime soon and work out that and a couple of other issues
[11:45] <troy_s> kwwii: At any rate, let me know.  I have a boatload of stuffs to click on this weekend re the other projects, but default bits will have some time allocated assuming need.
[11:45] <kwwii> cool, will do
[11:45] <troy_s> kwwii: Did skuttlebiscuit have anything to say about any of the subs?
[11:46] <kwwii> yeah, I think he was amazed at how many nice pics there are on that page
[11:47] <troy_s> kwwii: Lol.  Same as always.  Edgydejavu.
[11:47] <kwwii> he sent me a list of his favorites...I am going to combine that with my favorites and a couple others from the comments on the wiki, etc
[11:47] <troy_s> kwwii: The problem was more about steering (as can be again exemplified by the almost identical state of affairs.)
[11:48] <troy_s> kwwii: What was he leaning towards?  It could probably help to generate further things along similar lines.
[11:48] <kwwii> 4874 from joseph seems to be his favorite so far (that is also the one I tweaked and put with my first submissions)
[11:48] <troy_s> (although who knows.  It seems a big enough struggle to get the same hue as the samples provided)
[11:49] <troy_s> Yeah figured as much.  It is a bloody blows knockoff from win98
[11:49] <troy_s> lol
[11:49] <kwwii> it is not only a problem of getting the hue right
[11:49] <kwwii> I found that simply taking a design and using the same colors doesn't work well
[11:49] <kwwii> it really depends on the individual design
[11:50] <kwwii> heh? I do not remember win98 having a background like that
[11:50] <troy_s> kwwii: Sure, unless you are developing for shuttle.  His hue sense tends to be in direct relationship to something else.
[11:50] <kwwii> wow, mystical is pretty awesome
[11:50] <troy_s> kwwii: Uh... let me see if I can dig it up.
[11:51] <troy_s> kwwii: It was vaguely like the vista wallpaper -- but more sweepy curvey -- just like xubuntu's (well almost identical)
[11:52] <troy_s> kwwii: More or less a tweaked time lapsed light based bit of photography.
[11:52] <kwwii> luckily I am an old school mac user so nobody can say I copied windows :p
[11:52] <troy_s> kwwii:  I found vista's ocean referential wallpaper interesting in tones though.
[11:52] <kwwii> those pics from joseph are all made from photographs
[11:53] <troy_s> kwwii: Yes... they look suspiciously like long term exposures.
[11:53] <kwwii> never seen that
[11:53] <troy_s> kwwii: Vista's default?
[11:53] <kwwii> never even seen vista :p
[11:53] <troy_s> kwwii: A few bits of ocean rays more or less (although it is restated enough that it is not quite 'underwater')
[11:54] <kwwii> cool, I should google for it
[11:54] <troy_s> http://www.piplos.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/windows-vista-aurora-wallpaper.jpg
[11:54] <troy_s> Ocean tone + rays + sweepy bloody curves.
[11:54] <troy_s> lol
[11:54] <kwwii> wow, that is the default in vista?
[11:55] <kwwii> I wonder why they couldn't get something better
[11:55] <troy_s> kwwii: Well it is pretty well executed in my mind.  Albeit about 5 years overdone.
[11:56] <troy_s> kwwii: Leopard's new wallpaper isn't much better, but is probably symptomatic of a larger move away from that glassy shiny plastic.
[11:56] <kwwii> yeah
[11:57] <troy_s> kwwii: You have seen the silverlight promo -- its close to that xp style (which appears to be what shuts is heading for)
[11:57] <troy_s> http://www.bit-101.com/misc/silverlight_wallpaper.jpg
[11:58] <troy_s> which was close to osx's wall from <can't remember version)
[11:58] <troy_s> http://www.bit-101.com/misc/panther_wallpaper.jpg
[11:58] <kwwii> actually I do not think that mark is really pushing for something like that but it is, in his eyes, one of the better pics of those available on the wiki
[11:59] <troy_s> But the vista thing very clearly takes some cues from underwater photography -- which is rather interesting as it tends to translate well to the abstracts.
[11:59] <kwwii> I guess he did not see your versions (unless he checks the wiki often which I doubt
[11:59] <troy_s> http://xtreview.com/images/windows-vista-5728/vista-first-install-screen.jpg
[11:59] <troy_s> i doubt he would like either quite frankly.
[11:59] <kwwii> I like that background better than the whole desktop
[12:00] <troy_s> the fucking monochrome thing must die.
[12:00] <troy_s> it really is a deal breaker.
[12:00] <kwwii> the desktop pic (as compared to the installer) has very distracting lines (and the part on the lower right looks crappy, if you ask me)
[12:01] <troy_s> you can't even fully execute a sense of 'awe' or anything close when you are locked into a single hue with only varying value.
[12:01] <troy_s> the contrast of hues is what helps to deliver that.
[12:01] <kwwii> I agree with that - I will talk to him about the whole direction in october
[12:01] <kwwii> I am trying to avoid discussing this with him per email
[12:01] <troy_s> the problem is you can't say things like 'In oil painting it is common to use a highlight composed of the complimentary colour'
[12:01] <troy_s> lol
[12:03] <troy_s> Anywho... I'm off for yet another night shoot's sleep.
[12:03] <troy_s> Hit me with email or whatever.
[12:04] <kwwii> sleep well
[12:04] <kwwii> I will
[12:05] <troy_s> That brown elephant texture is pretty bloody amazing.
[12:07] <troy_s> Although my personal vote goes for Physalis
[12:36] <andreasn> I thought the elephant was nice as well
[12:38] <andreasn> although picking a default wallpaper is hell, so I'm staying out of this discussion :)
[12:44] <lapo> hi
[08:04] <titanix88> hey nothlit
[08:06] <titanix88> anyone there?
[08:20] <nothlit> titanix88: heyas
[08:28] <titanix88> nothlit : i upload it in the attachments!
[08:29] <titanix88> gutsy incoming wiki...
[08:32] <nothlit> ooh its there now :D
[08:33] <titanix88> nothlit what abt the second one?
[08:34] <nothlit> titanix88: thats an interesting backdrop
[08:34] <nothlit> titanix88: you may want to go with more interesting placement, or angles
[08:35] <nothlit> also fiddle with the lighting, and play with the thickness and bevel of the logo a bit so its not standard
[08:35] <nothlit> and get rid of the plastic look =p
[08:36] <titanix88> download the 2nd .blend and find what i didn't do there . but in the end i some how could not like a perspective.
[08:38] <titanix88> it is beveled. 3d. the second layer has a particle generated logo which i did not use.
[08:38] <titanix88> maybe u can configure it for me.
[08:40] <titanix88> only creative was the background i say:(
[08:42] <nothlit> titanix88: import the svg, and once you convert it to a mesh, extrude the faces gradually or however you want to do it
[08:43] <nothlit> you can join it all together for easier editing
[08:43] <nothlit> and then just vertex paint it or assign vertices materials
[08:44] <nothlit> titanix88: yeah creative use of bumpmapping :)
[08:44] <titanix88> i do not have time anymore as i have to go back to my hoestel tommorrow. :(
[08:48] <titanix88> nothlit:anyone will say it's a plain 2d logo. but it is not.;)
[08:52] <nothlit> titanix88: you could also create an interesting form and then assign it as the bevel object for your representative logo curves
[08:52] <nothlit> titanix88: lol :)
[08:55] <titanix88> one interesting exp: i tried to engrave it one a cube and then boolean took 2hours.lol
[08:56] <nothlit> yeah blender booleans are supposed to suck
[08:57] <titanix88> why?
[08:58] <nothlit> underworked area of code
[08:58] <nothlit> there is a script though, but you could also just use a different modeler
[09:02] <titanix88> i dont like the way curve to mesh looks.
[09:05] <titanix88> u can never subdivide a converted mesh frm curve. it will look ugly as hell.
[09:06] <nothlit> titanix88: you can choose how many steps you want in the curve properties
[09:09] <titanix88> i mean lot's of triangular faces makes it harder to control
[09:11] <nothlit> oh lol
[09:12] <titanix88> nothlit: btw u wanna improve it?
[09:12] <nothlit> nah i have a few ideas i'm fiddling with
[09:13] <nothlit> titanix88: this was my happy accident yesterday with a little bit of photoshopping https://people.fluxbuntu.org/~nothlit/communitytheme/gutsy/wallpapers/buntuindigo.png
[09:14] <_titanix88> i'm back.
[09:14] <_titanix88> so...
[09:15] <nothlit> oh
[09:15] <nothlit> did you get any of my messages?
[09:16] <_titanix88> no
[09:17] <_titanix88> :(
[09:17] <nothlit> 03:10:45 < titanix88> nothlit: btw u wanna improve it?
[09:17] <nothlit> 03:10:59 < nothlit> nah i have a few ideas i'm fiddling with
[09:17] <nothlit> 03:11:32 < nothlit> titanix88: this was my happy accident yesterday with a little bit of photoshopping https://people.fluxbuntu.org/~nothlit/communitytheme/gutsy/wallpapers/buntuindigo.png
[09:19] <_titanix88> got it.congrats!
[09:23] <_titanix88> got to go! bye