[08:52] <popey> yo
[08:52] <mdke> hi popey
[09:02] <mdke> popey: i noticed i'm still an admin of the lp screencasts team... i should remove myself since I'm not contributing, do you want to add someone else?
[09:04] <CIA-18> Ubuntu Documentation: mdke * r4325 debian/changelog: Daniel's changes
[09:14] <popey> yes good idea
[09:14] <popey> (adding someone else)
[09:14] <popey> however I don't mind you staying as admin, it's not a problem
[09:15] <mdke> it's not really fair
[09:15] <mdke> I'll stay a member because I'm still interested in the team :)
[09:16] <popey> :)
[09:17] <mdke> popey: how's it going? I've seen several new screencasts, are you doing them all?
[09:17] <popey> no, myself and Andrew Gee have split them roughly 50/50
[09:17] <popey> I put up a list that needed making, and he picked the ones he wanted to do
[09:18] <popey> there should be 30 new ones by the end of the month
[09:18] <mdke> that's awesome. Are they feisty based?
[09:18] <popey> mostly gutsy
[09:18] <popey> some feisty specific
[09:18] <mdke> rocking
[09:18] <mdke> ok if you have any links we can include in the documentation for gutsy, tell us asap (string freeze around the corner)
[09:18] <popey> i managed to get UDS sponsorship from Canonical as a result, which is nice for raising the profile
[09:19] <mdke> but we can break a freeze to add screencast urls
[09:19] <popey> when is string freeze?
[09:19] <mdke> 13th or something (argh)
[09:19] <mdke> yeah
[09:19] <popey> we have had someone join the team and transcribe the screencasts!
[09:19] <popey> so we now have subtitles in English which can be (and need to be) translated
[09:19] <mdke> great news
[09:20] <popey> and have had offers to translate to French and Spanish
[09:20] <mdke> I'll poke the italian team about that
[09:20] <popey> that would be very helpful
[09:20] <mdke> what's the url?
[09:20] <popey> I'll send a mail to the loco contacts list later - are you on that list?
[09:20] <popey> if so then you can forward to the -it team?
[09:20] <mdke> sure, I'm the -it contact
[09:21] <popey> ok, then look out for that mail :)
[09:21] <mdke> good
[09:21] <mdke> you might want to try ubuntu-translators too, that's the proper list for translators
[09:21] <popey> ooo, good call
[09:21] <mdke> all translation teams should be on it
[09:22] <mdke> bah, I should get moving, another busy day ahead
[09:22] <popey> ttfn, have a good one
[03:20] <sommer> morning all
[03:20] <sommer> when documenting commands should they be always prefixed by sudo?
[03:21] <sommer> that is if they need to have root privs.
[03:23] <sommer> I'm working on an addition to the Postfix guide and was wondering about all the postconf -e commands that don't have sudo.
[03:25] <nixternal> sommer: if they need root privs, then yes, use sudo, as long as the command is a command line command, if it is a gui then use the gksu/gksudo, whatever it is
[03:26] <sommer> nixternal: thanks I assume they mean command line.
[04:04] <sommer> is there a standard way for documenting paths that vary?
[04:04] <sommer> specifically /home/$user/..
[04:05] <sommer> I'm leaning toward /home/<emphasis role="italic">username</emphasis>/
[04:50] <kylewilliams> hey nixternal, when's the string freeze for kubuntu gutsy taking place exactly?
[04:51] <nixternal> 12th or the 13th
[04:51] <kylewilliams> ah ok, so there's still a couple of days
[04:52] <sommer> anyone know if some one is working on creating-a-self-signed-certificate?
[04:53] <sommer> there's a xref in generic/server/C/mail.xml and it won't validate I assume because the link doesn't exist.
[04:56] <sommer> wait I think I found it in the web-servers.xml file
[05:03] <seisen> So when does the documentation start for Hardy Heron?
[05:04] <nixternal> after we do our freeze, and we branch the current trunk into a new trunk, and rename the previous to gutsy
[05:05] <nixternal> although, we typically wait a couple of months so we can see how much different the documentation is going to be
[05:05] <nixternal> typically the documentation doesn't change much, so it is safe to begin documenting right from the get go
[05:05] <shriphani> hello, I am looking forward to contributing, where do I find the current working project.
[05:05] <shriphani> oh dear.... the purojects being wokred on ^
[05:06] <seisen> I was wondering because I though about helping with the documentation this time around
[05:07] <nixternal> shriphani: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Repository
[05:07] <nixternal> seisen: just remember, no matter the size of the contrib, it is a huge help to us
[05:09] <seisen> I know, I figure I can try to help with some of the misc things that are simple to do so I can learn how to use docbook  and then with more experience move on to bigger things
[05:10] <nixternal> rock on...pretty much how everyone got their start
[05:10] <nixternal> OK, time for school...bbiab
[05:10] <seisen> see ya
[05:12] <kylewilliams> eish...time for me to write a statistics test :/
[05:13] <kylewilliams> will probably send you something by sunday nixternal
[05:13] <kylewilliams> oh, and in terms of screenshots...if most things are command line based ,such as using apt-get ,is there any need for screenshots
[05:13] <kylewilliams> ?
[05:15] <kylewilliams> k, i gotta go...nixternal, just lemme know in an email or something when you see this
[05:42] <kyleN> Hey, can anyone here answer a question about how app-specific help gets installed?
[05:44] <kyleN> I am wondering whether the xml help files come with the application package and are loaded into the correct location at install time
[11:02] <mdke> kyleN: I can try, what app is it?