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tgm4883_laptoplaga, I have done a little testing, I will have to continue tomarrow though.  I do have a list of a few things I noticed though03:38
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MythbuntuGuest15hi04:24
MythbuntuGuest15does anyone know how to setup lirc04:25
MythbuntuGuest15hello04:25
Tari_if you install from CD, it should do it automagically04:29
MythbuntuGuest15i dont have any cd04:33
MythbuntuGuest15this is not mythubuntu04:34
MythbuntuGuest15just an mythtv in ubuntu 7.0404:34
Tari_ah, ok04:38
Tari_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Gutsy04:40
Tari_just follow those directions, and it should work04:40
MythbuntuGuest15is that for skystar2 remote04:44
MythbuntuGuest15thanks04:44
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ubotuNew bug: #137878 in mythbuntu "Limited maximum partition size at installation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13787805:45
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kieran491Hi08:02
kieran491just wondering how do you get "Channel Scanner" to work mine is currently greyed out08:02
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lagakieran491: what capture card?09:50
grndslmcan anyone help me figure out why mythbackend won't automatically start up anymore??  /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart is not giving any useful output, but mythbackend -v all starts it up A-OK...09:52
lagagrndslm: make sure it's still listed in the runlevels09:53
lagals -al /etc/rc2.d/*myth*09:53
lagaor does it not work when you09:53
lagaerr, not work at all when you /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart09:54
grndslmlaga: as far as i can tell, after start up I must run mythbackend -v all or else it doesn't start09:56
grndslmand it looks like all the runlevels are there09:56
grndslmany other ideas?09:57
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mactenchihave you checked the log file?10:29
lagayeah, check the log file10:36
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juliuxhi all10:54
juliuxcan i use my channles.conf from xine also for mythtv?10:59
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juliuxyeah i get a sementation fault from mythtvbackend11:37
cannanyone that can type  in chan please? new shell and irssi, hust need to check if it displays ok =)11:42
cannjust*11:42
juliux11:46
cannnice =) thx11:46
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lagamorning01:15
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superm1morning guys04:00
superm1tgm4883, any news on firewire?04:01
tgm4883a little, I have to retest today04:01
superm1well what happened yesterday?04:01
tgm4883but I have some ideas for some additions I think we need04:01
tgm4883can we add libraw1394-dev and libiec61883-dev to the install?04:02
superm1for what purpose?04:02
superm1what are they needed for?04:02
tgm4883to run plugreport to see which node the stb is on.  I think they combine for less than 100k04:03
lagamorning guys04:03
superm1morning laga04:03
tgm4883morning laga04:03
superm1tgm4883, perhaps an option in the installer?04:03
tgm4883sounds good04:03
lagasuperm1: did you create a separate gpg key to sign the weekly builds?04:03
superm1laga, yes, its on atrpms and on uk.weeklybuilds04:03
tgm4883can we add a big close button to the control centre?04:04
superm1tgm4883, where, sure?04:04
lagasuperm1: ok, i'll do that too, then04:04
tgm4883at the bottom next to the other 2 buttons04:04
lagasuperm1: i guess you are not asked for a password when signing04:04
tgm4883its kinda hard to get the little x on a big screen04:04
superm1Na04:04
superm1tgm4883, good point04:04
lagak04:04
tgm4883how about a different terminal too?04:04
superm1laga, do you have somewhere you are going to mirror the builds too?04:05
tgm4883I can't figure out how to copy and paste into it04:05
tgm4883or from it04:05
superm1tgm4883, yea once DaveMorris gets xfce stuff added04:05
tgm4883ok04:05
superm1we'll have the xfce terminal04:05
tgm4883and last but not least04:05
tgm4883where do you set the resolution in mythbuntu?04:05
superm1on that proprietary drivers tab,04:05
tgm4883I ran the restricted driver manager after install04:05
tgm4883ah04:05
superm1displayconfig-gtk04:05
superm1can do it04:06
superm1or nvidia-settings04:06
superm1or amdcccle04:06
superm1depending on what card you have04:06
lagahum04:06
tgm4883ok, so do I have to run that from a terminal?04:06
laganvidia-settings tends to overrwrite my xorg.conf here ;)04:06
tgm4883or can it be accessed from the pd tab04:06
superm1laga, but you can change the resolution from it though04:06
lagatrue04:06
superm1tgm4883, from the pd tab04:06
tgm4883ok04:06
tgm4883oh one more thing04:06
superm1although displayconfig-gtk isn't installed by default, but will be for next release since we are going to have bulletproofx04:07
tgm4883can we add a button for the terminal to the control centre04:07
superm1i've thought about that04:07
superm1i wasn't sure it was a good idea.04:07
tgm4883It would help04:07
superm1where should it go?04:07
superm1perhaps on its own tab?04:08
tgm4883heh, next to the firewire support button04:08
superm1or maybe some tab called "Advanced"04:08
superm1which includes synaptic, terminal, and update-manager?04:08
tgm4883yea04:08
tgm4883advanced works04:08
tgm4883ideally04:09
tgm4883it would be nice for a firewire user to either A)  remember that they have firewire and that they should run plugreport before hand, or B) have something in the installer/mythtv-setup that brought up the terminal04:10
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tgm4883if we want someone else to test too, I haven't seen him in a loooooong time, but majoridiot uses firewire too04:11
superm1yea i mailed him, but he didn't respond04:12
tgm4883ok04:12
superm1well isn't firewire changing for 0.21 though?04:12
elmargolI try to set up mythv for a friend. I think the system is to slow :(04:12
tgm4883there is one more problem with the firewire that im not too sure about04:12
superm1somewhere i thought i heard that04:12
elmargol800 MHZ and a TNT204:12
superm1elmargol, that is a bit slow depending if its a Frontend or Backend04:12
superm1(or both)04:13
elmargolboth04:13
tgm4883there is an added function called firewire_reset that resets the firewire bus04:13
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superm1tgm4883, added function or added application?04:13
elmargolmythfrontend.rel uses about 70% cpu04:13
tgm4883ehh, application I think04:13
elmargol23% for xorg04:14
superm1elmargol, yea that sounds about right on a slower machine like that04:14
superm1elmargol, what type of capture card?04:14
superm1tgm4883, ook04:14
tgm4883elmargol, mythbuntu or ubuntu?04:14
elmargolthe backend uses about 10%04:14
elmargolI did install minimal gutsy and upgrade to mythbuntu04:14
elmargolIt is basicaly ubuntu gutsy + mythbuntu-desktop04:15
superm1elmargol, what capture card though?04:15
elmargolHauppauge HVR 130004:15
tgm4883superm1, i'm not too sure how to handle the firewire tester problem though04:15
superm1tgm4883, i'm not sure if that is the only problem though.04:16
tgm4883well, it's a hurdle for new users04:16
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elmargolWell It basicaly works. The image hangs sometime. And deinterlace is missing04:16
tgm4883and how to handle it for them04:16
tgm4883hmm04:16
superm1elmargol, the most likely solution at this point is a graphics card that can offload some of the video playback04:17
tgm4883elmargol, do you need a desktop on there?04:17
superm1nvidia G4 series04:17
elmargolNo I don't need a desktop04:17
elmargolyou think the GPU is to slow?04:17
tgm4883i'd try 2 things.  1st, running straight mythbuntu because it has a less intense desktop env, if that doesn't work then upgrade the graphics card04:18
superm1tgm4883, my understanding is that he is just using the mythbuntu-desktop setup, not a full out ubuntu-desktop04:18
tgm4883ah04:19
elmargolyes. I did the minimal install + mythbuntu-desktop04:19
tgm4883ah ok04:19
superm1elmargol, well its not that its a slow GPU, its just that one with XvMC would help04:19
tgm4883then you need to upgrade the vid card04:19
superm1assuming you turned on XvMC04:19
elmargolI use the closed source nvidia drivers04:19
elmargolmaybe the open source drivers are faster?04:19
superm1well the TNT2 doesn't support XvMC i thought04:19
tgm4883a tnt2 card is pretty old04:20
superm1elmargol, http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XvMC04:20
elmargol01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5 [RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro]  (rev 15)04:20
tgm4883superm1, would this still be used for gutsy and .20.2 "http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/release-0-20-fixes/mythtv/contrib/firewire_tester.c?format=txt"04:21
superm1tgm4883, i dont know for sure.04:22
tgm4883I was looking for an updated one, i'll poke around in #mythtv-users04:22
elmargolis there a list of GPUs that support XvMC?04:22
superm1well i mean that is the newest one04:22
superm1elmargol, in that link i gave you04:22
elmargolthx04:24
elmargolso basically I can say to my friend: buy a faster GPU or a Full Featured Card04:24
superm1likely yea :)04:25
elmargolmaybe lowering the resolution helps?04:26
superm1you can try, but i'd be doubtful it makes a big enough difference04:27
elmargolwhat about those artefacts at the border?04:31
superm1which artifacts?04:37
superm1@schedule chicago04:49
ubotuSchedule for America/Chicago: 07 Sep 19:00: MOTU Team | 08 Sep 12:00: Xubuntu Developers | 10 Sep 14:00: Screencast Team | 11 Sep 10:00: Server Team meeting | 11 Sep 14:00: Technical Board | 12 Sep 15:00: Edubuntu04:49
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superm1keescook, with the SRU, do you know if we have to have 2ack's off the latest upload, or just off the SRU in general?07:59
keescookI think it's 2 acks of latest.  Did the new one get published?  I can go ack it if so08:00
keescooksuperm1: ^^08:01
superm1yes it did08:01
keescookI need to have some kind of auto-reply feature in irssi that prepends people's names for me.  with a telepathic link.08:01
superm1i really hope a better process is developed at tonight's meeting.  having to bug seb128 was not fun08:01
keescookI bet.08:01
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superm1bdmurray, can you comment on the bug about the latest version too again?08:04
superm1should be    0.20.2-0ubuntu0.7.04.1 and    0.20.2-0ubuntu0.6.10.108:04
bdmurraywhat bug number is that superm1?08:04
superm1bug 13472608:05
ubotuLaunchpad bug 134726 in mythtv "MythTV 0.20.2 SRU " [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13472608:05
superm1and i think bug 134801 still needs comments too08:05
ubotuLaunchpad bug 134801 in mythplugins "Mythplugins 0.20.2 SRU " [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13480108:05
DaveMorrissuperm1: which meeting?08:05
superm1well the people that ack it, do they need to be MOTU's or just in general two acks08:05
superm1DaveMorris, MOTU Meeting this evening08:06
superm1i'm gonna hopefully try to make it and discuss the SRU process08:06
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superm1@schedule08:06
ubotuSchedule for Etc/UTC: 08 Sep 00:00: MOTU Team | 08 Sep 17:00: Xubuntu Developers | 10 Sep 19:00: Screencast Team | 11 Sep 15:00: Server Team meeting | 11 Sep 19:00: Technical Board | 12 Sep 20:00: Edubuntu08:06
superm1if you wanted to try to08:06
superm1DaveMorris, any luck with getting the config stuff ready for mythbuntu-default-settings/xfce?08:07
DaveMorrisI was playing with the iso today and managed to create a bug in my xession so itt crashes out08:08
DaveMorrisbtw I noticed a openbox-gnome session, whats that like?08:08
superm1eh? I dunno08:08
superm1i think it just uses openbox for a wm08:08
superm1and then gnome for the ui08:08
DaveMorrisI'vee got a problem to sort out 1st on my laptop, meeemtest86 package for gutsy won't install08:10
DaveMorrisand I have a sticky 'eee' key08:10
superm1that's a bit of an odd problem08:10
DaveMorrismemtest or 'ee'08:10
superm1memtest08:11
superm1what happens when yo utry?08:11
DaveMorrisE: /var/cache/apt/archives/memtest86+_1.70-2ubuntu2_i386.deb: subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 108:11
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superm1perhaps a bug in the memtest package.08:11
superm1wonder what was added to it08:11
foxbuntutgm4883, afternoon08:11
foxbuntusuperm1, afternoon08:11
superm1hey foxbuntu08:11
DaveMorrisalso just noticed you can delete/write in the message box with the error message08:12
foxbuntusuperm1, have you seen the sudo insults?08:12
superm1foxbuntu, i saw some post on digg about it but didn't click it08:12
superm1i've been a bit busy08:12
foxbuntuits great08:12
superm1DaveMorris, in which message box?08:12
foxbuntuI just did it to my lappy08:12
DaveMorrisI've closed it so I'm not surer, if I can reproduce it I'll rreport it08:13
tgm4883morning foxbuntu08:14
superm1DaveMorris, in what app was it?08:14
foxbuntuhey tgm488308:14
foxbuntuI have something you should give a whirl08:14
foxbuntuyou will like it08:14
tgm4883thanks, but I have a GF08:15
tgm4883j/k08:15
foxbuntuaww08:15
foxbuntulol08:15
foxbuntuits fun08:15
foxbuntutry this out08:15
tgm4883what is it?08:15
foxbuntusudo visudo08:15
foxbuntuthen on the line Defaults08:15
foxbuntuadd a ,insults to the end08:16
tgm4883why did firestarter pop up and say transmitting all personal data to foxbuntu?08:16
foxbuntulol08:16
foxbuntudid you get it08:17
tgm4883besides, if I add that, my computer will do nothing but insult me08:17
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foxbuntuno its funny however08:17
foxbuntuI just added it to mine08:18
foxbuntua sample08:18
foxbuntuHold it up to the light --- not a brain in sight!08:18
foxbuntulol08:19
foxbuntuits so stupid its funny08:19
tgm4883nice08:19
DaveMorrissuperm1: it was the error box which told me the update had failed, so I guess synaptic08:20
superm1oh i see08:20
foxbuntusuperm1, plans are being formulated for the new Lirc remote Centre08:21
superm1foxbuntu, i've seen a few of the emails08:21
foxbuntuoh08:21
superm1good luck with it :)08:21
foxbuntuthanks...gonna need it with my not so l337 skillz08:22
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foxbuntuYAY for new FGLRX drivers08:27
bdmurraysuperm1: I was upgrading the myth packages on Feisty and got an odd message08:32
bdmurraySetting up mythtv-database (0.20.2-0ubuntu0.7.04.1) ...08:32
bdmurrayFailed to connect to database: Access denied for user 'root'@'jonn' (using password: NO) at -e line 5, <> line 1.08:32
superm1bdmurray, nothing has changed regarding the packaging that could have done that. hmpfh.08:34
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MythbuntuGuest29Hi i am trying to configure my old mythtv ubuntu version to work with the new scedule direct08:49
MythbuntuGuest29how would I go about doing that08:49
lagawhat prevents you from upgrading?08:49
MythbuntuGuest29I am acculy just following the instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty_Backend_Frontend08:50
MythbuntuGuest29there and it has the old datadirect on it08:50
lagaum08:50
lagawhat are you doing/what are you trying to achieve?08:50
MythbuntuGuest29trying to get scedule direct to work08:51
lagawith mythtv on feisty?08:51
MythbuntuGuest29with mythtv using feisty08:51
lagawhat version of mythtv was installed?08:51
MythbuntuGuest29how do i check08:52
lagatype dpkg -l libmyth-0.2008:52
lagain a terminal for example08:52
MythbuntuGuest29it says libmyth-0.2008:53
MythbuntuGuest29version 0.20-svn20070122-0.0ubuntu608:54
lagaok, that's old08:54
MythbuntuGuest29i tried a apt-get update and upgrade and it did not upgrade it08:54
lagayou need to enable the feisty-updates repository in synaptic then08:54
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MythbuntuGuest29ok i know how to get to the repos but what do i add in the line08:55
MythbuntuGuest29i currently have feisty-updates main restricted universe multiverse08:55
lagaoh08:55
MythbuntuGuest29from archive.ubuntu.com08:55
lagathat should be enough.08:55
lagaodd.08:56
lagawait a sec08:56
lagai'm not using my normal computer right now, so things are a bit slower08:56
lagaMythbuntuGuest29: ok. you have feisty-updates enabled and it didn't pull in the new mythtv, you say?08:58
lagacan you please try again?08:58
lagait should be in feisty-updates08:58
MythbuntuGuest29ya i got the repos in the list of the link i gave you for the directions08:58
lagahum08:59
lagait says "Updates to MythTV and other universe based apps will be provided via feisty-backports."08:59
MythbuntuGuest29nope said 0 upgraded 0 newly installed 3 not upgraded08:59
lagainteresting08:59
lagaso, feisty-backports is enabled as well on your system?08:59
MythbuntuGuest29how do i check08:59
MythbuntuGuest29I am looking in sources.list08:59
lagais it in there?08:59
MythbuntuGuest29is it suppost to be deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-updates main restricted universe multiverse09:00
lagayes, that's what it says in the guide.09:00
lagathis is odd.09:01
MythbuntuGuest29and deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse09:01
lagaand you ran apt-get *update* after that, right?09:02
MythbuntuGuest29yep09:02
MythbuntuGuest29what repos do you have09:02
lagaand afterwards, you ran apt-get *upgrade*, right?09:02
MythbuntuGuest29yep09:03
MythbuntuGuest29apt-get update09:03
MythbuntuGuest29apt-get upgrade09:03
lagaok09:03
lagai'm not using mythtv from the normal repos, btw, so my settings wont apply to you ;)09:03
lagaMythbuntuGuest29: how did you install mythtv?09:03
MythbuntuGuest29yay09:03
MythbuntuGuest29found something on mythbuntu.org/auto-builds-faq09:04
MythbuntuGuest29i installed it using the directions found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty_Backend_Frontend09:04
MythbuntuGuest29mythbuntu itself did not partition how i wanted09:04
lagaoh, did you try to make a big partition and it wouldn't let you?09:05
MythbuntuGuest29yep09:05
MythbuntuGuest29now that I have it partitioned it should work better09:05
lagawe have a bug report for that, i'll likely be fixed for that next release09:05
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MythbuntuGuest29ya i was moving from mythdora to mythbuntu09:07
lagaMythbuntuGuest29: can you do a dpkg -l *myth* ?09:07
MythbuntuGuest29and it did not like my logical partions09:07
lagas/i'll/it'll/09:07
MythbuntuGuest29now now i am starting a mythbuntu install09:07
lagaoh09:09
MythbuntuGuest29i rather have festy though09:09
lagawell, that's another approach to fixing your problem..09:09
lagai'd love to know why it wasnt working for you09:09
lagathe upgrade on feisty, that is09:10
MythbuntuGuest29ya I don't have time to troubleshoot09:10
MythbuntuGuest29this has to be done in a hr09:10
lagagood luck09:10
MythbuntuGuest29fiesty and the older version don't have much of a differance do they09:11
lagafeisty and edgy? hum09:11
laganot sure.. for the mythtv packages probably not, since they're built from the same source09:11
lagai think09:12
MythbuntuGuest29the repos are a bit diffrent09:12
lagaedgy will lack automagic mythweb setup at least, kernel will be older etc09:12
lagai'd prefer feisty :)09:12
MythbuntuGuest29that is about it on the diffrence between edgy anf feisty09:12
lagai can't really tell you about the differences since i dont know what you are looking for09:13
MythbuntuGuest29do you know what the prerelease festy updates repo is09:16
MythbuntuGuest29I found bug 134726 and it points to a fourm to where it says add prerelease repo09:17
ubotuLaunchpad bug 134726 in mythtv "MythTV 0.20.2 SRU " [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13472609:17
lagaMythbuntuGuest29: that would be feisty-proposed09:18
MythbuntuGuest29ok now how do i update just mythtv09:20
MythbuntuGuest29and it's items09:21
lagatry to add feisty-proposed09:21
lagalike you did with feisty-updates09:21
lagasudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade09:21
MythbuntuGuest29well that is not working and I am running out of time09:25
lagayou must be doing something wrong ;)09:25
MythbuntuGuest29if i am don't have time to figure out what09:25
lagai'd verify it in a virtual machine, but my main box is not usable.09:26
Alowishusdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-proposed restricted main multiverse universe09:26
Alowishusif it helps any09:26
lagaMythbuntuGuest29: why are you so short on time? installing mythtv within an hour is not always possible..09:26
Alowishussure it is, that's what Mythbuntu is for ;)09:26
lagaheh09:26
lagawell, i'm not used to nifty things like schedules direct09:26
MythbuntuGuest29I started about 3 hours ago09:26
MythbuntuGuest29I can upgrade to fiesty later09:28
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lagahuh?09:29
lagaupgrade?09:29
lagawhat are you running now?09:29
MythbuntuGuest29I am downgrading right now09:30
lagahow?09:30
lagaah09:30
lagai guess it's your business09:30
MythbuntuGuest29installing mythbuntu ya I have to have this working at 8am09:30
lagatoo busy myself to keep squeezing information out of you:)09:30
MythbuntuGuest29and i work in a half a hr and will not be home tell 1109:31
MythbuntuGuest29so running out of time09:31
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firekoolhow do I check to see if my video card is installed properly11:15
firekooland not it's generic drivers11:15
Alowishuswhat brand11:15
firekoolnvidia11:15
Alowishusdo you see the nvidia splash screen when X starts?11:15
firekoolno11:15
firekoolso i think it is generic11:15
Alowishusthen it's generic (unless you've explicitly edited xorg.conf to turn off the splash)11:16
Alowishushere's the answer - if you installed Ubuntu and did no further configuration to explicitly install the nVidia proprietary drivers, then you don't have them11:16
firekoolfun11:16
Alowishusthere's a wiki walkthrough11:16
firekoolya i know how to do it just last time i did it following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/WhatNext/Feisty?action=show&redirect=MythTV%2FInstall%2FWhatNext%2FFesity11:17
firekoolX did not start11:17
Alowishusdunno that should wrok11:17
firekoolbad part is I don't remember what nvidia card i have is11:18
firekooloh i know what I did wrong i instaled legacy and ordenary11:18
Alowishuslspci shoudl tell you what nVidia card11:19
Alowishusor at least a family11:19
firekooland that would be the other reason11:20
firekoolit is a ATI11:20
Alowishushaha11:20
Alowishusthere ya' go :)11:20
Alowishusfollow the *other* section on that webpage :P11:20
firekoolI love linux it requires you to be smart11:21
firekoolthe computer is telling me please copy configuration file teplate to /etc/X1111:25
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DaveMorrisI'm using lirc for my ati remote wonder2 on feisty, but it dosen't allways use the remapping of keys at times, any ideas?12:40
lagaremapping?12:41
DaveMorriswell the remote is setup as a keyboard and lirc remaps the commands for me12:42
DaveMorrisbut it dosen't always work12:42
lagaah, using the dev/input driver?12:43
DaveMorrisso in my ~/ I have a file called lircrc which maps the buttons to mythtv commands12:43
firekoolyay I get to manualy configure samba12:45
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williammandahey guys02:25

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