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CuriosCatHi all02:32
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wasabihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/13785902:57
ubotuLaunchpad bug 137859 in samba "winbind cache does not work on 3.0.25b-1" [Critical,New] 02:57
wasabiAnybody mind advising me on how to handle that? I'd like to get it fixed.02:58
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osmosiswhere can I download gutsy server ?06:21
osmosisit should be pretty stable by now, and I can upgrade to final just by apt-get upgrade when it comes out I figure.06:21
ScottKYou can.06:22
ScottKI wouldn't run it on a production server because stuff happens, but for development it should be generally fine.06:22
osmosisit will be a production server, but probably not for a month...and by then gutsy should be released. So i figure better off starting with gutsy.06:23
ScottKosmosis: The dailies are here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/06:23
ScottKOK.06:23
osmosisthis will be my first time doing 64 bit also.06:23
osmosisgutsy is already frozen right? Just bug fixes now.06:24
ScottKMostly.06:24
ScottKThere are exceptions granted if there is a good reason.06:25
osmosisoh cool.06:25
osmosislike that xorg hotplugging devices that was just released ?06:25
ScottKDunno about that.06:25
ScottKI mostly work on Universe packages.06:25
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maestrojedI just set my Ubuntu desktop (feisty) to be a LAMP server.  By default /var/www belongs to root which means I can't work in it via the gui.  Is there any reason I should not change the ownership and group to my account (I am only running one main account)?06:55
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duluuhello everyone06:59
duluuI'm looking for a tool that logs all the command entered in a login session06:59
ajmitchhistory07:00
ajmitchthough it'll show more than just the current bash session, iirc07:00
duluuit seems not working after someone SU-s to another user07:01
ajmitchwhich is why sudo is really useful07:05
duluuwhat if someone issues sudo su?07:06
ajmitchthen the history gets stored for root, not for the original user07:06
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duluuajmitch: I know07:32
duluuajmitch: but I want to log all the commands entered during login session07:33
ScottKduluu: It probably wouldn't be terribly hard to script merging the two logfiles.07:37
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pschulz01Greetings.. I would like to help out with some ubuntu-server documentation, but not sure where the best place to start is. Given that today has been declared DocDay.07:42
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duluuScottK: but there might be some better tools07:49
ScottKMight be.07:49
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AnRkeyhow do get my squid box to allow connections to local machines on my network. (Intranets)12:40
Kamping_KaiserAnRkey, hm?12:47
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AnRkeywell at the moment i have to add proxy exclusions into the browser for local machine names12:50
AnRkeyotherwise squid denies access12:50
kgoetzlook at teh ACL section of the config, might help12:51
AnRkeyi have created an acl for all the intranet dns names12:57
AnRkeyand then I am trying to get squid to fetch it directly12:57
AnRkeyalmost there12:57
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micoanyone can help setting up ldap in feisty ?02:51
sommer_mico: maybe do you have a specific question?02:52
renzo17mico: would this help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer?highlight=%28ldap%2902:52
sommer_here's another link: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/server/C/openldap-server.html02:53
micotnks renzo1702:54
micosommer_02:54
micoi'll try that02:54
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micoI have to install a server with    openldap, squid, dansguardian, and bind           is there any order or can I just add them all at the same time ?03:41
micoand manage tham via webmin03:41
micothem*03:41
ScottK!webmin | mico03:43
ubotumico: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system03:43
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gamble6xI'm not speaking from experience with these particular apps.  But I would get them all at the same time.  Aptitude takes into account dependencies and whatnot of apps already installed as well as those being installed.  So choosing them all will allow aptitude to decide what order is best.03:43
micoiwuh   :(03:44
micotnks03:44
micotnks  gamble6x03:44
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micocan anyone poit me to a url focusing feisty server configs ?   pl04:16
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sommermico: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/server/C/04:18
sommeralso you can search through the community docs at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/04:18
sommeryou might get more mileage if you search for a specific service like apache04:19
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nealmcbnew roadmap item for ubotu factoids (my action item from the last meeting): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Roadmap#factoids04:24
mathiaz!mail04:26
ubotumail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com04:26
mathiaznealmcb: hum.. I wouln't try to update the mail factoid04:26
micotnks guys04:26
mathiaznealmcb: may add a mail-server factoid ?04:27
micoi'm feeling little right now :s     can't put this server working :s  all in the net points some direction ....   the wrong one  :s04:27
nealmcbmathiaz: good idea04:27
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nealmcbwhat is a good way to look for, e.g., all the packages that match some criteria, but only in the "main" component.  I don't see an option in apt-search for component04:35
nealmcbI guess the search at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ does a reasonable job04:36
nealmcbmico: what kind of server do you want to run?04:55
micoit's 4 a school05:02
micothe students net05:02
micowith a server and about 50 computers connected to it05:03
micoso I'll need dansguardian, bind9, ldap,05:03
micoand squid05:04
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micoany suggestions ?05:42
mathiazmico: it seems that you already know which package you need.05:45
mathiazmico: you can find them in the archive and install them.05:45
mathiazmico: help.ubuntu.com has lots of ressources05:46
mathiazmico: you can find there a server guide05:46
mathiazmico: and some wiki pages about installing packages in the community section.05:46
mathiazmico:  have a look at it and feel free to update pages when they're not relevant anymore.05:47
micomathiaz ok man05:48
micomathiaz tnks05:48
micoWHEN  i'll make it, i'm thinking to make a site with those instructions05:48
mathiazmico: that's great news. May be you could try to improve the help.ubuntu.com ?05:49
mathiazmico: so that other can easily find your documentation and don't have to go through the same problem as you.05:50
micomathiaz i'm thinking in that ..... 4 other ubuntuers don't have the same dificulty i'm having05:50
micomathiaz that's it lol05:51
mathiazmico: the help.ubuntu.com/community/ is a wiki website05:51
nealmcbmico: yeah - sometimes is is much better for someone inexperienced to review and give feedback on the documentation - it is sometimes very hard for folks who know it already to notice parts that are confusing05:51
mathiazmico: so it's easy to edit pages and so on.05:52
micomathiaz guys .... i'm not placing wiki ubuntu forums lower or anything ... but I consider myself a newbie ... i used to feel confortable in w#n and I went many times 4 the same problem05:53
mathiazI've updated the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase wiki page05:57
mathiazsomeone wants to have a look at it to see if things are missing ?05:57
mathiazmico: that's not a problem. We have all these documentation for people like you.05:58
mathiazmico: so if you see something that doesn't work, you can ask here or even correct it if you've found a solution05:58
ScottKmathiaz: Comment for you... In triaging it might be worth mentioning that there is no point in assigning/subscribing the server team to bugs on server team packages as the team is bug contact for all those packages already.05:59
mathiazScottK: would it make a difference if the ubuntu-server team is subsribed ?06:00
mathiazScottK: I don't think we'd get two emails06:01
ScottKNo we wouldn't, but it's more work for triagers.  I'd say at least warn them it's pointless.06:01
mathiazScottK: Ok. Thanks.06:02
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angelic_venusHello all =). Does anyone know if the postfix package (2.3.8-2) on 7.0.4 Server is supposed to provide library file '/usr/lib/postfix/dict_sdbm.so'?06:24
angelic_venusPostfix isn't working and complains about not being able to find it06:25
mralphabetangelic_venus: how did you install postfix?06:26
lamontangelic_venus: hrm...06:26
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angelic_venusapt-get install postfix06:27
angelic_venusand various other packages06:27
angelic_venus(postfix related)06:28
lamontangelic_venus: sdbm is built in06:30
lamontnot provided by a loadable map06:30
lamontsee postconf -m06:30
angelic_venusah, okay06:30
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lamontotoh, that might not be true...  sigh06:31
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lamontiz builtin06:31
lamontobjdump --dynamic-syms /usr/lib/libpostfix-util.so.1| grep sdbm06:32
angelic_venusPerhaps I am in a little over my head xD06:36
angelic_venusthe error I am getting on 'postfix set-permissions' is: chown: cannot access `/usr/lib/postfix/dict_sdbm.so': No such file or directory06:36
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lamontah, well.  postfix fiels06:38
lamontand you shouldn't be running set-permissions anyway - postinst does all that for you06:38
nealmcbfor future reference, if you install apt-file you can search for pacages that include a given file:  'apt-file search /usr/lib/postfix/dict_sdbm.so' (and dpkg -S can do that for packages you've already installed)06:39
angelic_venusaye, I tried that06:40
angelic_venusbut yeh, I am now none the wiser as to what could be causing my postfix woes =(06:40
lamontand what woes are those?06:40
angelic_venuswhen I try to send a test message over telnet, it hangs after MAIL FROM: <blah@blah.com>06:41
angelic_venusand the logs have:06:41
angelic_venus postfix/smtpd[29995] : warning: connect #1 to subsystem private/rewrite: Connection refused06:41
angelic_venusetc06:41
lamonthrm... that would point to a permissions issue06:41
lamontor that the rewrite service had died earlier in the log06:41
angelic_venusNo other log output, so perhaps the former06:42
lamontremoving dict_sdbm.so from postfix-files and running postfix set-permissions might do the trick for you06:42
angelic_venuswell, that's just it, I did a search for dict_sdbm.so and it came up with nothing06:43
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angelic_venusalas, I must leave, thank you for your help06:53
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sllikhi guys, i just installed ubuntu server and for some reason I cant read the files on a cdrom07:03
osmosis_sllik: bummer07:03
sllikif I ls /media/cdrom there is nothing there07:03
sllikany ideas?07:05
micogoin home :p i'm tired07:06
micotnks 4 the hlp guys07:06
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nealmcbsllik: perhaps you have to manually mount the cdrom?  when you have gnome, nautilus may do that automatically, but I'm not sure how that is handled.  does the cdrom show up on the output of "mount"?07:30
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slliknealmcb, i can't even find it in dev something is really wrong07:39
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nealmcbmathiaz: thanks for the good work on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase    I'm making some updates now07:50
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nealmcbmathiaz: I've made some changes to the KnowledgeBase.  I wonder if we should move packager below developer?  Starting with the easy stuff and getting more advanced....  Adding links for minutes and meeting agendas?  I'm a little unclear on how this page should differ from the main page and the GettingInvolved page08:21
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mathiaznealmcb: hum. I agree with you.08:28
mathiaznealmcb: I'm not sure about what we should put there.08:28
mathiaznealmcb: I think I'd put links to ressource so that people can do their job08:29
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juliuxhi08:37
juliuxhas somebody experiences with mondo  and server backuping? http://www.mondorescue.org/08:38
mathiaznealmcb: I've added a paragraph about the meetings.08:39
mathiaznealmcb: I think the KnowledgeBase is about how the team functions.08:39
mathiaznealmcb: People that want to get involve would first go to the GettingInvolved page08:40
mathiaznealmcb: then a choose a task to work on.08:40
mathiaznealmcb: and when they ask themselves - oh, I should I do the task - can you help in doing that specific task ?08:40
mathiaznealmcb: then they should find pointer in the KnowledgeBase.08:41
nealmcbmathiaz: good description.  I also found this set of "SampleTeam" templates that give more detail: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/SampleTeam08:51
nealmcbit describes KnowledgeBase as sort of the virtual library of the team08:52
mathiaznealmcb: yop.08:54
mathiaznealmcb: It links to the LOCO knwoledgebase as an example.08:54
mathiaznealmcb: in that case it describes how to run a loco team.08:55
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m11evening all09:26
mathiazhi m1109:27
m11hi mathiaz09:28
m11i have little problem with ssl on ubuntu server09:29
m11i am trying to folow ubuntu guide : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ChillispotHotspot09:30
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m11but i cant pass apache2 ssl section09:31
m11any tips ?09:31
m11i have installed openssl ca-certificates ssl-cert and there i stoped09:32
sommerm11: you may want to check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/server/C/httpd.html09:36
m11ty sommer , i check09:36
sommerthere's a section on createing certs and using them with Apache09:37
sommeronce you have Apache running with ssl, you might then resume the ChillispotHotspot guide.09:37
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m11ty for help somer. what should i do with openssl ca-certificates ssl-cert packages ? uninstall ?09:42
sommerm11: nope you'll need those to create the certificates that Apache will use.09:45
m11i c09:46
m11i go check now, many tnx sommer09:47
sommernp09:47
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SuperLagsweet10:44
SuperLagI want to fire off some reports that run on an Ubuntu server, to an open relay and mail them to a group of people. This box would send mail but never receive. What would be the best setup for that?10:44
ScottKSuperLag: Do you have any experience with mail server software?10:48
SuperLagScottK: very little. Tried to set up postfix and a virtual host a couple years ago, and it made me crazy.10:49
ScottKOK.10:50
SuperLagWhat was suggested to me, was to set up $some_mta and point it at an open relay10:50
ScottKIs the server going to be exposed to the internet or inside a private network.10:50
SuperLaginside a private network10:51
ScottKOpen relays don't generally exist anymore.  Your MTA will have to deliver to the appropriate MX.10:51
ScottKIn that case, you can probably use most anything as the security considerations are less.10:51
=== ScottK would just use Postfix because it's what I'm familiar with.
SuperLagI just think if I use Postfix and try to mail directly to Exchange users that it'll get caught up in the firewall somewhere.10:52
SuperLagI'm not sure.10:52
SuperLagThe people the reports go to are Windows users.10:53
ScottKCan your telnet to the exchange servers on port 25 from the Ubuntu server?10:53
SuperLagand we use Exchange, in house...10:53
ScottKyour/you10:53
SuperLaglet me see...10:53
ScottKIf you can do that, you don't need a relay.  If you can't you'll need to work the firewall issue as any solution dependent on some open relay somewhere on the net isn't going to be very reliable.10:56
=== ScottK has to run.
ScottKGood luck.10:56
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knix_I need to be able to make a cron job to backup a directory on a windows machine to a ubuntu file server.  How would I accomplish this?11:39
ivoksshare that dir on windows11:41
ivoksmount it, copy data from it, umount it11:41
knix_sorry.  I meant automatically.11:42
knix_like a daily cron job.  I assume I need to make a script, but I am not familiar with what to put in there.11:43
ivoksmount -t smbfs //windows_ip/share_name /mnt/windows -o username=xxx,password=xxx11:43
ivoksrsync -a /mnt/windows /backup/dir11:43
ivoksumount /mnt/windows11:44
knix_So make that a script and creat a cron job around that?11:44
ivoksright11:44
knix_Thanks a bunch ivoks11:44
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ivoksnp11:45
ivoksjust a tought...11:45
ivoksit would be good to test exit code of mount part11:46
ivokscause, you don't want to sync empty dir :)11:46
knix_I hear ya11:46
knix_I have to backup the firehouse's data.  If I cant do it, they will tell me to move to novell or windows.11:47
ivoks:)11:48
ivoksout of head:11:48
ivoksmount -t smbfs //windows_ip/share_name /mnt/windows -o username=xxx,password=xxx11:48
ivoksif [ $? -ne 0 ] ; then11:49
ivoksecho "Windows share unaccessibile"11:49
ivoksexit 111:49
ivokselse:11:49
ivoksrsync -a /mnt/windows /backup/dir11:49
ivoksumount /mnt/windows11:49
ivoksfi11:49
ivoksups..11:51
ivokselse11:51
ivoksnot else:11:51
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m11ivoks ? :)12:44
ivoksm11: yes?12:45
m11pozdrav12:45
m11kako ide s firmom ?12:45
ivoksm11: this is english only channel, switch to ubuntu-hr12:47
m11ah ye sry12:47

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