[02:32] <CuriosCat> Hi all
[02:57] <wasabi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/137859
[02:57] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 137859 in samba "winbind cache does not work on 3.0.25b-1" [Critical,New] 
[02:58] <wasabi> Anybody mind advising me on how to handle that? I'd like to get it fixed.
[06:21] <osmosis> where can I download gutsy server ?
[06:21] <osmosis> it should be pretty stable by now, and I can upgrade to final just by apt-get upgrade when it comes out I figure.
[06:22] <ScottK> You can.
[06:22] <ScottK> I wouldn't run it on a production server because stuff happens, but for development it should be generally fine.
[06:23] <osmosis> it will be a production server, but probably not for a month...and by then gutsy should be released. So i figure better off starting with gutsy.
[06:23] <ScottK> osmosis: The dailies are here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/
[06:23] <ScottK> OK.
[06:23] <osmosis> this will be my first time doing 64 bit also.
[06:24] <osmosis> gutsy is already frozen right? Just bug fixes now.
[06:24] <ScottK> Mostly.
[06:25] <ScottK> There are exceptions granted if there is a good reason.
[06:25] <osmosis> oh cool.
[06:25] <osmosis> like that xorg hotplugging devices that was just released ?
[06:25] <ScottK> Dunno about that.
[06:25] <ScottK> I mostly work on Universe packages.
[06:55] <maestrojed> I just set my Ubuntu desktop (feisty) to be a LAMP server.  By default /var/www belongs to root which means I can't work in it via the gui.  Is there any reason I should not change the ownership and group to my account (I am only running one main account)?
[06:59] <duluu> hello everyone
[06:59] <duluu> I'm looking for a tool that logs all the command entered in a login session
[07:00] <ajmitch> history
[07:00] <ajmitch> though it'll show more than just the current bash session, iirc
[07:01] <duluu> it seems not working after someone SU-s to another user
[07:05] <ajmitch> which is why sudo is really useful
[07:06] <duluu> what if someone issues sudo su?
[07:06] <ajmitch> then the history gets stored for root, not for the original user
[07:32] <duluu> ajmitch: I know
[07:33] <duluu> ajmitch: but I want to log all the commands entered during login session
[07:37] <ScottK> duluu: It probably wouldn't be terribly hard to script merging the two logfiles.
[07:42] <pschulz01> Greetings.. I would like to help out with some ubuntu-server documentation, but not sure where the best place to start is. Given that today has been declared DocDay.
[07:49] <duluu> ScottK: but there might be some better tools
[07:49] <ScottK> Might be.
[12:40] <AnRkey> how do get my squid box to allow connections to local machines on my network. (Intranets)
[12:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> AnRkey, hm?
[12:50] <AnRkey> well at the moment i have to add proxy exclusions into the browser for local machine names
[12:50] <AnRkey> otherwise squid denies access
[12:51] <kgoetz> look at teh ACL section of the config, might help
[12:57] <AnRkey> i have created an acl for all the intranet dns names
[12:57] <AnRkey> and then I am trying to get squid to fetch it directly
[12:57] <AnRkey> almost there
[02:51] <mico> anyone can help setting up ldap in feisty ?
[02:52] <sommer_> mico: maybe do you have a specific question?
[02:52] <renzo17> mico: would this help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer?highlight=%28ldap%29
[02:53] <sommer_> here's another link: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/server/C/openldap-server.html
[02:54] <mico> tnks renzo17
[02:54] <mico> sommer_
[02:54] <mico> i'll try that
[03:41] <mico> I have to install a server with    openldap, squid, dansguardian, and bind           is there any order or can I just add them all at the same time ?
[03:41] <mico> and manage tham via webmin
[03:41] <mico> them*
[03:43] <ScottK> !webmin | mico
[03:43] <ubotu> mico: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system
[03:43] <gamble6x> I'm not speaking from experience with these particular apps.  But I would get them all at the same time.  Aptitude takes into account dependencies and whatnot of apps already installed as well as those being installed.  So choosing them all will allow aptitude to decide what order is best.
[03:44] <mico> iwuh   :(
[03:44] <mico> tnks
[03:44] <mico> tnks  gamble6x
[04:16] <mico> can anyone poit me to a url focusing feisty server configs ?   pl
[04:18] <sommer> mico: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/server/C/
[04:18] <sommer> also you can search through the community docs at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[04:19] <sommer> you might get more mileage if you search for a specific service like apache
[04:24] <nealmcb> new roadmap item for ubotu factoids (my action item from the last meeting): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Roadmap#factoids
[04:26] <mathiaz> !mail
[04:26] <ubotu> mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[04:26] <mathiaz> nealmcb: hum.. I wouln't try to update the mail factoid
[04:26] <mico> tnks guys
[04:27] <mathiaz> nealmcb: may add a mail-server factoid ?
[04:27] <mico> i'm feeling little right now :s     can't put this server working :s  all in the net points some direction ....   the wrong one  :s
[04:27] <nealmcb> mathiaz: good idea
[04:35] <nealmcb> what is a good way to look for, e.g., all the packages that match some criteria, but only in the "main" component.  I don't see an option in apt-search for component
[04:36] <nealmcb> I guess the search at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ does a reasonable job
[04:55] <nealmcb> mico: what kind of server do you want to run?
[05:02] <mico> it's 4 a school
[05:02] <mico> the students net
[05:03] <mico> with a server and about 50 computers connected to it
[05:03] <mico> so I'll need dansguardian, bind9, ldap,
[05:04] <mico> and squid
[05:42] <mico> any suggestions ?
[05:45] <mathiaz> mico: it seems that you already know which package you need.
[05:45] <mathiaz> mico: you can find them in the archive and install them.
[05:46] <mathiaz> mico: help.ubuntu.com has lots of ressources
[05:46] <mathiaz> mico: you can find there a server guide
[05:46] <mathiaz> mico: and some wiki pages about installing packages in the community section.
[05:47] <mathiaz> mico:  have a look at it and feel free to update pages when they're not relevant anymore.
[05:48] <mico> mathiaz ok man
[05:48] <mico> mathiaz tnks
[05:48] <mico> WHEN  i'll make it, i'm thinking to make a site with those instructions
[05:49] <mathiaz> mico: that's great news. May be you could try to improve the help.ubuntu.com ?
[05:50] <mathiaz> mico: so that other can easily find your documentation and don't have to go through the same problem as you.
[05:50] <mico> mathiaz i'm thinking in that ..... 4 other ubuntuers don't have the same dificulty i'm having
[05:51] <mico> mathiaz that's it lol
[05:51] <mathiaz> mico: the help.ubuntu.com/community/ is a wiki website
[05:51] <nealmcb> mico: yeah - sometimes is is much better for someone inexperienced to review and give feedback on the documentation - it is sometimes very hard for folks who know it already to notice parts that are confusing
[05:52] <mathiaz> mico: so it's easy to edit pages and so on.
[05:53] <mico> mathiaz guys .... i'm not placing wiki ubuntu forums lower or anything ... but I consider myself a newbie ... i used to feel confortable in w#n and I went many times 4 the same problem
[05:57] <mathiaz> I've updated the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase wiki page
[05:57] <mathiaz> someone wants to have a look at it to see if things are missing ?
[05:58] <mathiaz> mico: that's not a problem. We have all these documentation for people like you.
[05:58] <mathiaz> mico: so if you see something that doesn't work, you can ask here or even correct it if you've found a solution
[05:59] <ScottK> mathiaz: Comment for you... In triaging it might be worth mentioning that there is no point in assigning/subscribing the server team to bugs on server team packages as the team is bug contact for all those packages already.
[06:00] <mathiaz> ScottK: would it make a difference if the ubuntu-server team is subsribed ?
[06:01] <mathiaz> ScottK: I don't think we'd get two emails
[06:01] <ScottK> No we wouldn't, but it's more work for triagers.  I'd say at least warn them it's pointless.
[06:02] <mathiaz> ScottK: Ok. Thanks.
[06:24] <angelic_venus> Hello all =). Does anyone know if the postfix package (2.3.8-2) on 7.0.4 Server is supposed to provide library file '/usr/lib/postfix/dict_sdbm.so'?
[06:25] <angelic_venus> Postfix isn't working and complains about not being able to find it
[06:26] <mralphabet> angelic_venus: how did you install postfix?
[06:26] <lamont> angelic_venus: hrm...
[06:27] <angelic_venus> apt-get install postfix
[06:27] <angelic_venus> and various other packages
[06:28] <angelic_venus> (postfix related)
[06:30] <lamont> angelic_venus: sdbm is built in
[06:30] <lamont> not provided by a loadable map
[06:30] <lamont> see postconf -m
[06:30] <angelic_venus> ah, okay
[06:31] <lamont> otoh, that might not be true...  sigh
[06:31] <lamont> iz builtin
[06:32] <lamont> objdump --dynamic-syms /usr/lib/libpostfix-util.so.1| grep sdbm
[06:36] <angelic_venus> Perhaps I am in a little over my head xD
[06:36] <angelic_venus> the error I am getting on 'postfix set-permissions' is: chown: cannot access `/usr/lib/postfix/dict_sdbm.so': No such file or directory
[06:38] <lamont> ah, well.  postfix fiels
[06:38] <lamont> and you shouldn't be running set-permissions anyway - postinst does all that for you
[06:39] <nealmcb> for future reference, if you install apt-file you can search for pacages that include a given file:  'apt-file search /usr/lib/postfix/dict_sdbm.so' (and dpkg -S can do that for packages you've already installed)
[06:40] <angelic_venus> aye, I tried that
[06:40] <angelic_venus> but yeh, I am now none the wiser as to what could be causing my postfix woes =(
[06:40] <lamont> and what woes are those?
[06:41] <angelic_venus> when I try to send a test message over telnet, it hangs after MAIL FROM: <blah@blah.com>
[06:41] <angelic_venus> and the logs have:
[06:41] <angelic_venus>  postfix/smtpd[29995] : warning: connect #1 to subsystem private/rewrite: Connection refused
[06:41] <angelic_venus> etc
[06:41] <lamont> hrm... that would point to a permissions issue
[06:41] <lamont> or that the rewrite service had died earlier in the log
[06:42] <angelic_venus> No other log output, so perhaps the former
[06:42] <lamont> removing dict_sdbm.so from postfix-files and running postfix set-permissions might do the trick for you
[06:43] <angelic_venus> well, that's just it, I did a search for dict_sdbm.so and it came up with nothing
[06:53] <angelic_venus> alas, I must leave, thank you for your help
[07:03] <sllik> hi guys, i just installed ubuntu server and for some reason I cant read the files on a cdrom
[07:03] <osmosis_> sllik: bummer
[07:03] <sllik> if I ls /media/cdrom there is nothing there
[07:05] <sllik> any ideas?
[07:06] <mico> goin home :p i'm tired
[07:06] <mico> tnks 4 the hlp guys
[07:30] <nealmcb> sllik: perhaps you have to manually mount the cdrom?  when you have gnome, nautilus may do that automatically, but I'm not sure how that is handled.  does the cdrom show up on the output of "mount"?
[07:39] <sllik> nealmcb, i can't even find it in dev something is really wrong
[07:50] <nealmcb> mathiaz: thanks for the good work on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase    I'm making some updates now
[08:21] <nealmcb> mathiaz: I've made some changes to the KnowledgeBase.  I wonder if we should move packager below developer?  Starting with the easy stuff and getting more advanced....  Adding links for minutes and meeting agendas?  I'm a little unclear on how this page should differ from the main page and the GettingInvolved page
[08:28] <mathiaz> nealmcb: hum. I agree with you.
[08:28] <mathiaz> nealmcb: I'm not sure about what we should put there.
[08:29] <mathiaz> nealmcb: I think I'd put links to ressource so that people can do their job
[08:37] <juliux> hi
[08:38] <juliux> has somebody experiences with mondo  and server backuping? http://www.mondorescue.org/
[08:39] <mathiaz> nealmcb: I've added a paragraph about the meetings.
[08:39] <mathiaz> nealmcb: I think the KnowledgeBase is about how the team functions.
[08:40] <mathiaz> nealmcb: People that want to get involve would first go to the GettingInvolved page
[08:40] <mathiaz> nealmcb: then a choose a task to work on.
[08:40] <mathiaz> nealmcb: and when they ask themselves - oh, I should I do the task - can you help in doing that specific task ?
[08:41] <mathiaz> nealmcb: then they should find pointer in the KnowledgeBase.
[08:51] <nealmcb> mathiaz: good description.  I also found this set of "SampleTeam" templates that give more detail: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/SampleTeam
[08:52] <nealmcb> it describes KnowledgeBase as sort of the virtual library of the team
[08:54] <mathiaz> nealmcb: yop.
[08:54] <mathiaz> nealmcb: It links to the LOCO knwoledgebase as an example.
[08:55] <mathiaz> nealmcb: in that case it describes how to run a loco team.
[09:26] <m11> evening all
[09:27] <mathiaz> hi m11
[09:28] <m11> hi mathiaz
[09:29] <m11> i have little problem with ssl on ubuntu server
[09:30] <m11> i am trying to folow ubuntu guide : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ChillispotHotspot
[09:31] <m11> but i cant pass apache2 ssl section
[09:31] <m11> any tips ?
[09:32] <m11> i have installed openssl ca-certificates ssl-cert and there i stoped
[09:36] <sommer> m11: you may want to check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/server/C/httpd.html
[09:36] <m11> ty sommer , i check
[09:37] <sommer> there's a section on createing certs and using them with Apache
[09:37] <sommer> once you have Apache running with ssl, you might then resume the ChillispotHotspot guide.
[09:42] <m11> ty for help somer. what should i do with openssl ca-certificates ssl-cert packages ? uninstall ?
[09:45] <sommer> m11: nope you'll need those to create the certificates that Apache will use.
[09:46] <m11> i c
[09:47] <m11> i go check now, many tnx sommer
[09:47] <sommer> np
[10:44] <SuperLag> sweet
[10:44] <SuperLag> I want to fire off some reports that run on an Ubuntu server, to an open relay and mail them to a group of people. This box would send mail but never receive. What would be the best setup for that?
[10:48] <ScottK> SuperLag: Do you have any experience with mail server software?
[10:49] <SuperLag> ScottK: very little. Tried to set up postfix and a virtual host a couple years ago, and it made me crazy.
[10:50] <ScottK> OK.
[10:50] <SuperLag> What was suggested to me, was to set up $some_mta and point it at an open relay
[10:50] <ScottK> Is the server going to be exposed to the internet or inside a private network.
[10:51] <SuperLag> inside a private network
[10:51] <ScottK> Open relays don't generally exist anymore.  Your MTA will have to deliver to the appropriate MX.
[10:51] <ScottK> In that case, you can probably use most anything as the security considerations are less.
[10:52] <SuperLag> I just think if I use Postfix and try to mail directly to Exchange users that it'll get caught up in the firewall somewhere.
[10:52] <SuperLag> I'm not sure.
[10:53] <SuperLag> The people the reports go to are Windows users.
[10:53] <ScottK> Can your telnet to the exchange servers on port 25 from the Ubuntu server?
[10:53] <SuperLag> and we use Exchange, in house...
[10:53] <ScottK> your/you
[10:53] <SuperLag> let me see...
[10:56] <ScottK> If you can do that, you don't need a relay.  If you can't you'll need to work the firewall issue as any solution dependent on some open relay somewhere on the net isn't going to be very reliable.
[10:56] <ScottK> Good luck.
[11:39] <knix_> I need to be able to make a cron job to backup a directory on a windows machine to a ubuntu file server.  How would I accomplish this?
[11:41] <ivoks> share that dir on windows
[11:41] <ivoks> mount it, copy data from it, umount it
[11:42] <knix_> sorry.  I meant automatically.
[11:43] <knix_> like a daily cron job.  I assume I need to make a script, but I am not familiar with what to put in there.
[11:43] <ivoks> mount -t smbfs //windows_ip/share_name /mnt/windows -o username=xxx,password=xxx
[11:43] <ivoks> rsync -a /mnt/windows /backup/dir
[11:44] <ivoks> umount /mnt/windows
[11:44] <knix_> So make that a script and creat a cron job around that?
[11:44] <ivoks> right
[11:44] <knix_> Thanks a bunch ivoks
[11:45] <ivoks> np
[11:45] <ivoks> just a tought...
[11:46] <ivoks> it would be good to test exit code of mount part
[11:46] <ivoks> cause, you don't want to sync empty dir :)
[11:46] <knix_> I hear ya
[11:47] <knix_> I have to backup the firehouse's data.  If I cant do it, they will tell me to move to novell or windows.
[11:48] <ivoks> :)
[11:48] <ivoks> out of head:
[11:48] <ivoks> mount -t smbfs //windows_ip/share_name /mnt/windows -o username=xxx,password=xxx
[11:49] <ivoks> if [ $? -ne 0 ] ; then
[11:49] <ivoks> echo "Windows share unaccessibile"
[11:49] <ivoks> exit 1
[11:49] <ivoks> else:
[11:49] <ivoks> rsync -a /mnt/windows /backup/dir
[11:49] <ivoks> umount /mnt/windows
[11:49] <ivoks> fi
[11:51] <ivoks> ups..
[11:51] <ivoks> else
[11:51] <ivoks> not else:
[12:44] <m11> ivoks ? :)
[12:45] <ivoks> m11: yes?
[12:45] <m11> pozdrav
[12:45] <m11> kako ide s firmom ?
[12:47] <ivoks> m11: this is english only channel, switch to ubuntu-hr
[12:47] <m11> ah ye sry