| lifeless | GzipFile is a wrapper around zlib in python that does what gzip does | 12:06 |
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| keir | one sec on phone | 12:07 |
| lifeless | robertc@lifeless-64:~$ python -m timeit -s 'one_hundred_million_bytes= "A"*1024*1024*100' -s 'import zlib' 'zlib.compress(one_hundred_million_bytes)' | 12:07 |
| lifeless | 10 loops, best of 3: 2.64 sec per loop | 12:07 |
| keir | cool | 12:16 |
| keir | lifeless, what do you think? or you haven't finished your coffee :) | 12:19 |
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| keir | i have to run, i'll be back in ~5 hours | 12:21 |
| keir | i'm going to be on a bus, i'll probably implement some stuff while i'm in transit | 12:22 |
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| lifeless | jbailey: long time no see! | 12:44 |
| jbailey | lifeless: Yup, finally settling enough to visit. | 12:45 |
| jbailey | I understand that I missed your wife here on my first day. | 12:45 |
| lifeless | how's the babe? | 12:45 |
| lifeless | oh shame | 12:45 |
| jbailey | I couldn't get out of the orientation to sneak off and visit Leslie, though. =) | 12:45 |
| jbailey | He's terribly cute. Much happier to not be stuffed into a car seat every day, though. =) | 12:45 |
| lifeless | you drove all the way? | 12:46 |
| jbailey | Yeah. We've put 3600 miles on the rental vehicle. | 12:46 |
| jbailey | Mmm. Civilized measurements that's.. mm | 12:46 |
| lifeless | so thats what, 48 hours of driving ? | 12:46 |
| jbailey | 5500km or so? | 12:46 |
| jbailey | Probably a touch more. | 12:46 |
| jbailey | It was about two weeks, most days about 4 hours of driving. Some with none, some with 6 or 7. | 12:47 |
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| Odd_Bloke | lifeless: As someone who's not particularly familiar with the innards of bzr is the work that keir is doing ATM aimed at reducing disk usage, decreasing computational overhead or a combination of the two? | 01:55 |
| BasicOSX | I did a bzr checkout --light-weight http://foo/bar/ | 01:57 |
| BasicOSX | no when I cd into bar and do a bzr pull I get issues about read-only? | 01:58 |
| BasicOSX | bzr: ERROR: bzrlib.errors.UnlockableTransport: Cannot lock: transport is read only: <bzrlib.transport.http._urllib.HttpTransport_urllib url=http://bazaar.eqenchanters.org/WoW/AddOns/.bzr/repository/> | 01:58 |
| thatch | BasicOSX: yeah, that's because it's trying to pull _into_ the thing you did a checkout of | 01:59 |
| thatch | do you mean to 'bzr up' instead? | 01:59 |
| Odd_Bloke | BasicOSX: You want 'bzr update'. | 01:59 |
| Odd_Bloke | Too slow. :( | 01:59 |
| thatch | mere seconds, Odd_Bloke... | 01:59 |
| BasicOSX | Can you point me to a url where it explains diff between pull and update? I assume a checkout --light-weight means bzr expects no changes will happen in that area and it's more or less r/o? | 02:01 |
| thatch | BasicOSX: if you have r/w access to the branch that it's bound to, doing a commit will write directly to that, and doing an update will read from it. It's like push/pull but on a more svn-like scale. I'm not sure if there's a good url... Odd_Bloke? | 02:05 |
| Odd_Bloke | thatch: I've been looking around and there doesn't seem to be a brilliant explanation anywhere... | 02:07 |
| thatch | halfway down http://bazaar-vcs.org/SharedRepositoryTutorial I find a decent set of steps | 02:10 |
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| thatch | I tried googling and didn't come up with anything, is it linked from the bazaar-vcs wiki? | 02:10 |
| BasicOSX | I'll take a look at that, thanks | 02:11 |
| fullermd | Hm. I think I'll steal that for a followup, actually, as a case in point. | 02:15 |
| lifeless | Odd_Bloke: keir is working on the index for pack repositories | 02:15 |
| lifeless | Odd_Bloke: I wrote a toy one, so that I could do some major restructuring vs knit repositories | 02:15 |
| lifeless | Odd_Bloke: with the intent of a) finding a victim^Wvolunteer to write a better one, or b) coming back later and doing a better one myself. | 02:16 |
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| calvin_ | hello, how do i set up bzr to use a proxy in ubuntu? | 02:23 |
| calvin_ | anyone? | 02:25 |
| calvin_ | anyone alive at all? | 02:30 |
| fullermd | I think it checks a standard env variable, for HTTP at least... HTTP_PROXY or http_proxy or something like that? | 02:30 |
| calvin_ | yes, i know that much, but don't i need to put it into a config file? | 02:31 |
| fullermd | I'm pretty sure it'll read it out of the environment. | 02:32 |
| fullermd | There may be a config file option for it as an alternate choice... not sure. | 02:33 |
| calvin_ | what do you mean 'read it out of the environment? | 02:38 |
| calvin_ | do you mean it might detect my gnome proxy settings? | 02:39 |
| fullermd | I mean read the env variable, if it exists. I dunno if gnome works via that or not; that's pretty far off my path. | 02:48 |
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| NamNguyen | hi | 11:31 |
| NamNguyen | is there a service wrapper for bzr on windows? | 11:31 |
| Radtoo | You want to run bzr as windows service? | 11:35 |
| NamNguyen | yes i do | 11:36 |
| Radtoo | as in "bzr serve" or something else? | 11:37 |
| NamNguyen | yes | 11:38 |
| NamNguyen | as bzr serve | 11:38 |
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| Radtoo | Hmm, I haven't seen such a thing so far, tho I'm not doing this with windows either. | 11:42 |
| Radtoo | I figure you could use srvany... | 11:45 |
| hstuart | NamNguyen, you should be able to use this to run bzr serve as a service: http://agiletesting.blogspot.com/2005/09/running-python-script-as-windows.html though I'm not running Windows so I haven't tested it. Caveat emptor and all that stuff. | 11:46 |
| NamNguyen | thanks hstuart, i'll check it out | 11:46 |
| Radtoo | oh you found a full howto. :D | 11:47 |
| hstuart | amazing what a google for python windows service can turn up ;) | 11:47 |
| Radtoo | I see. :p | 11:48 |
| Radtoo | Tho looking at the tutorial, it's also amazing that you have to edit the registry, use one or many additional apps etc just to run a script as service :D | 11:50 |
| hstuart | Windows does pretty much everything through the registry, so I'm not terribly surprised by that | 11:51 |
| Radtoo | I guess it was expected that everything setup related is handled by installers... hehe | 11:53 |
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| keir | lifeless, around? | 06:05 |
| abentley | keir: unlikely at this hour in Australia. | 06:06 |
| abentley | He usually shows up in around four hours, but not very often on weekends. | 06:06 |
| keir | yes, i just checked world clock :) | 06:09 |
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| abentley | keir: $ TZ=Australia/Sydney date | 06:14 |
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| mathbr | Hi. How can I tell bzr to ignore one or more files in a local branch no matter what happens? Those files should never ever be invoked in merge's and send's. | 06:32 |
| abentley | mathbr: You should not "bzr add" files if you don't want bzr to merge or send them. | 06:32 |
| abentley | You can use "bzr remove --keep" to un-add the files. | 06:33 |
| mathbr | And then they won't get touched when, let's say, someone modifies those files in the original repo? | 06:33 |
| abentley | Right. | 06:33 |
| mathbr | I'll try that then, thanks. | 06:33 |
| abentley | The first time you pull or merge, after the files have been removed, they will be deleted. | 06:34 |
| mathbr | Hm... Just saw that the deletion is also visible in a send... I don't want it to appear there either... | 06:35 |
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| abentley | It's a one-time thing. | 06:36 |
| mathbr | How to get to the second-time? | 06:36 |
| abentley | copy the files before merging/pulling them. | 06:37 |
| mathbr | I did changes to some local files and want to create a patchfile now but without the deletion of that other file | 06:37 |
| abentley | Well, if you just want to create a patch, you can do "bzr diff". | 06:37 |
| abentley | That lets you specify which files you want to include. | 06:38 |
| mathbr | I know. But I was told to create a branch and to patches via send to make merging easier. | 06:38 |
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| abentley | So either create a patch with just the files you want, or do a send, and deal with the fact that these files are gonna be deleted. | 06:39 |
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| mathbr | I'll look into that, thanks. | 06:40 |
| abentley | Or else, shelve the changes to the files, commit a new revision, send that, and unshelve. | 06:41 |
| mathbr | I'd have to do that for each commit, right? | 06:42 |
| abentley | Well, I'm assuming you've already committed these changes to the local files. | 06:42 |
| abentley | In the future, you can avoid committing changes to those files. | 06:43 |
| mathbr | Ah well, I'll just return to a normal checkout and drop my branch. | 06:48 |
| mathbr | abentley: Thanks for your help and bye | 06:51 |
| abentley | No problem. | 06:51 |
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| keir | is there a reason KeyboardInterrupt isn't caught at the top level? | 06:54 |
| abentley | It would suck if you couldn't ^C out? | 06:54 |
| keir | no, as in, i get a 5 page traceback | 06:54 |
| abentley | That's not typical. | 06:54 |
| keir | rather than 'bzr: interrupted' | 06:54 |
| keir | it happens for all my tests when i hit C-c right away after hitting 'enter' on the command | 06:56 |
| keir | also: my repository should never be broken if I do a ctrl-C partway through, correct? | 06:56 |
| keir | on any operation? | 06:56 |
| abentley | Well, you may be ^C-ing too early, but that's still surprising. | 06:57 |
| abentley | It's always safe to ^C. The worst case, if you do it while writing to the repository, is that you'll get some unreferenced data. | 06:58 |
| keir | oh, but that won't get caught and cleaned up? | 07:00 |
| abentley | No, repository operations are strictly append-only. Cleanup would violate that and increase the risk of data corruption. | 07:00 |
| jelmer | 'evening keir, abentley | 07:00 |
| keir | morning! | 07:01 |
| jelmer | abentley: has anything changed in the is_ancestor() code since 0.90 ? | 07:01 |
| abentley | Hi jelmer. Was there something you wanted to ask me? | 07:01 |
| abentley | I'm not aware of any changes to is_ancestor. | 07:01 |
| jelmer | abentley: It is trying to call get_revision(None).parent_ids in 0.90 but works fine in bzr.dev | 07:01 |
| abentley | Are you passing None in as a parameter? | 07:02 |
| jelmer | I'm pretty sure I don't, but let me check.. | 07:03 |
| abentley | 'cause we did do a whole bunch of changes where we stopped returning None for the null revision. | 07:03 |
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| abentley | So if you're passing in Branch.last_revision, or Tree.last_revision, that might have been None in 0.90 | 07:04 |
| jelmer | abentley: ah, you're right | 07:05 |
| jelmer | Yes, I am passing in the result of Branch.last_revision() | 07:05 |
| jelmer | thanks! | 07:05 |
| abentley | You can use revision.ensure_null to fix it up. | 07:05 |
| abentley | No problem. | 07:06 |
| jelmer | I would expect Branch.last_revision() to return NULL_REVISION in this case though. Why is it still returning None? | 07:07 |
| abentley | The NULL_REVISION changes landed in two batches. | 07:08 |
| abentley | First was input, second was output. | 07:09 |
| abentley | Because the output changes are API breaks. | 07:09 |
| abentley | Branch.last_revision has returned None since the first release of Bazaar. | 07:11 |
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| jelmer | ah, makes sense | 07:11 |
| keir | wow, is bzr share (aka zeroconf support) going to be targetted for upstream inclusion? | 07:20 |
| mwh | oh crap, i meant to mention that in my talk | 07:31 |
| mwh | oh well, i ran out of time anyway | 07:32 |
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| keir | bzr share is the type of polish that can make someone impressed enough to switch | 07:36 |
| keir | has anyone considered build a 'branch registry' for umbrella projects with communities of developers? | 07:39 |
| keir | s/build/building/ | 07:40 |
| keir | where bzr itself would know about the project (rather than just a branch or single repository) | 07:40 |
| keir | and you could do things like bzr list-community-branches | 07:40 |
| keir | bzr branch community://packs-refactor | 07:40 |
| keir | or maybe bzr branch project://branch-name | 07:41 |
| keir | is it possible for transports to be added as plugins? | 07:42 |
| luks | with python it would be quite hard to _not_ make it possible :) | 07:44 |
| abentley | Certainly: WebDAV is already implemented that way. And see the lp: plugin | 07:45 |
| keir | aah, ok | 07:46 |
| keir | abentley, is there a page for the lp: plugin? | 07:48 |
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| abentley | No. It comes with Bazaar. | 07:57 |
| keir | i see register-branch, but that's it | 07:59 |
| abentley | bzr help launchpad | 08:01 |
| keir | neat | 08:04 |
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| nir | Some tests fail on Mac OS X | 11:59 |
| nir | FAIL: test_sftp_transport.SFTPTransportTestRelative.test__remote_path | 11:59 |
| nir | not equal: | 11:59 |
| nir | a = '/tmp/testbzr-xN4cVR.tmp/tmpRpl0nW/work/relative' | 11:59 |
| nir | b = '/private/tmp/testbzr-xN4cVR.tmp/tmpRpl0nW/work/relative' | 11:59 |
| nir | The test is broken - /tmp is symlink to /private/tmp :) | 12:00 |
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