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| moquist | ogra: the update-rc.d man-page doesn't mention that it actually stops/starts/restarts services. | 02:05 |
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| moquist | ogra: Also, the invoke-rc.d man-page says "All access to the init scripts by Debian packages' maintainer scripts should be done through invoke-rc.d." | 02:05 |
| moquist | ogra: Also, invoke-rc.d checks for the existence of the specified init script. I'm not sure it's necessary to wrap the invoke-rc.d invocation with if [ -e /etc/init.d/blah ] ; then... | 02:07 |
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| LaserJock | moquist: but it doesn't work right in the case of moodle | 02:15 |
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| moquist | LaserJock: Yeah. But it /ought/ to work. | 02:23 |
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| LaserJock | evening | 04:09 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: what time is it there? | 04:09 |
| sbalneav | hey | 04:09 |
| sbalneav | 21:09 | 04:09 |
| sbalneav | gettin tired | 04:10 |
| sbalneav | what are you? 1 hour or 2 behind me? | 04:11 |
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| LaserJock | gotta be at least 2 | 04:13 |
| LaserJock | I'm in Pacific time | 04:13 |
| sbalneav | Just starting to dig into thin client manager | 04:14 |
| LaserJock | I just got notes from my boss | 04:16 |
| LaserJock | for the class I'm teaching Monday | 04:16 |
| LaserJock | my first go at doing a university lecture :-) | 04:16 |
| sbalneav | Dude! | 04:16 |
| LaserJock | it's a senior level Physical Chemistry class to boot | 04:16 |
| sbalneav | First year students? | 04:16 |
| LaserJock | no, 37 seniors | 04:17 |
| sbalneav | wow | 04:17 |
| LaserJock | I'm a tad nervous | 04:17 |
| LaserJock | my boss has to be gone and none of the other faculty could fill in | 04:17 |
| sbalneav | hey, you've heard of the old joke of how you can tell the organic from the inorganic chemists, right? | 04:17 |
| LaserJock | so he asked me | 04:17 |
| LaserJock | no | 04:18 |
| sbalneav | No? | 04:18 |
| sbalneav | The inorganic chemists wash their hands BEFORE they go to the restroom :) | 04:18 |
| sbalneav | That was told to my on my first day of university chem | 04:18 |
| sbalneav | which was my first class in uni. | 04:19 |
| sbalneav | So, it stuck | 04:19 |
| sbalneav | By the prof, incedentally :) | 04:19 |
| LaserJock | heh | 04:19 |
| sbalneav | So, I'm looking at something lighter weight than vnc for tcm | 04:24 |
| sbalneav | basically, coming up with a screenshot app | 04:24 |
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| pengen_jago | hallo | 11:43 |
| pengen_jago | would somebody help me? | 11:44 |
| pengen_jago | i want to sharing my printer to win xp clients | 11:45 |
| pengen_jago | ahhh... capeeekkkkk deeehhhh.... | 11:45 |
| pengen_jago | chating ma mesin... huhuhuhuhu.... | 11:46 |
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| shriphani | that was the first time I saw such crap on freenode. | 11:48 |
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| stgraber | ogra: I managed to have italc working with the thin clients (and managed from a Windows computer) | 01:23 |
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| sbalneav | morning all | 03:03 |
| stgraber | hi sbalneav | 03:11 |
| stgraber | sbalneav: I managed to have italc running on thin clients :) but some functions still don't work (shutdown/log out/demo mode) | 03:13 |
| stgraber | sbalneav: demo should be easy to solve, logout I don't really see why it doesn't work, shutdown will be a problem but isn't necessary where I'm installing the network | 03:14 |
| sbalneav | I don't know what italc is? Something like TCP/SCP? | 03:18 |
| sbalneav | If so, it may need modification to the way we handle the thin client logins. | 03:18 |
| stgraber | sbalneav: http://italc.sourceforge.net/ | 03:21 |
| stgraber | it's being used to control some Windows classrooms here and can also be used on Linux (their modified VNC really works fine) | 03:22 |
| sbalneav | Wheeeheee, ollie's and my UVFe was accepted. | 03:35 |
| sbalneav | ltspfs 0.5 finally upstream | 03:35 |
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| MartinW | Hello | 07:50 |
| MartinW | I've got a very old PC with 128mb RAM (It was top of the line ;-) ) which I plan to set up with Linux and donate to a school. This is the only computer the school is going to get so I won't need networking. Would edubuntu work (Preferably LTS) or should I go for xubuntu? Perhaps another flavor of linux? What would you reccomend? | 07:53 |
| MartinW | Thanks for reading this, but I managed to solve it by asking on #ubuntu. | 08:02 |
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| cje | hi, I am a volunteer supporting a public middle school in an attempt to move to FOSS on edubuntu, and we are having a networking issue. Is there anyone here who has experience with networking with legacy Windows desktops? | 10:17 |
| boyam | cje, go ahead and ask your question...don't know if i can hlp..someone that can will chime in.... | 10:20 |
| cje | boyam: k, thx, I'm typing now | 10:20 |
| cje | boyam, we are trying to talk to a bunch of windows boxes | 10:21 |
| cje | every time that we reboot the server, we get a new IP address. But the Windows boxes are still trying to find the edubuntu box under the old DNS. | 10:23 |
| boyam | hmmm...have you trie increasing your dhcp lease time to something higher, like 7 days? | 10:26 |
| cje | boyam, we are not sure how to do that, and wouldn't that just push our problem out 7 days? | 10:28 |
| boyam | well when you reboot the server, it should honor those lease times givin your clients the same ip | 10:28 |
| boyam | so dns doesn't have an issue by having stale dns entries for the clients | 10:29 |
| boyam | is your dhcp server rdubuntu? | 10:31 |
| boyam | *edubuntu | 10:31 |
| cje | boyam, we believe that the dhcp server is an ATT router. Does that make sense? | 10:33 |
| boyam | sure..i've got routers actin as dhcp server...the router..is it managed by ATT? | 10:34 |
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| cje | I don't think it is managed by anyone :) | 10:41 |
| boyam | hmmm...ok... | 10:42 |
| boyam | what i don't understand is why when you reboot the server, you get a new address...when the router is handing out the address.... | 10:45 |
| cje | boyam, we are getting closer. More details in a secy. | 10:45 |
| cje | thx | 10:45 |
| boyam | np | 10:49 |
| cje | boyam, okay, now the weird problem is that the MAC address on our ASUS V2 edubuntu server keeps changing every time we reboot the machine! | 10:52 |
| boyam | mac adresss changes????? | 10:53 |
| boyam | that shouldn't happen...how many nics in the server? | 10:53 |
| cje | boyam, one. | 10:54 |
| cje | boyam, I know, it is weird. We are confused, too. | 10:54 |
| boyam | is ther some setting in th bios that makes the mac dynamic or something?...the mac is normally burned into the nic so to speak... | 10:55 |
| cje | boyam, thx, that is what we are checking now. | 10:56 |
| cje | boyam, just to ask a really stupid question, isn't the MAC address the number that appears on the first line of the output of ifconfig? | 10:58 |
| cje | for example, eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:30:1B:43:76:33 | 10:59 |
| boyam | yep | 11:02 |
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| boyam | if your mac is changing..you don't have a dns issue, you have an arp cache issue... | 11:05 |
| cje | k, thanks, interesting. we haven't heard of arp cache issues. Any recommendations as to how to diagnose it and solve it? Thanks a bunch. | 11:08 |
| boyam | firstly...solve your mac changing issue, by either taking out/disabling that nic and replacing it...this will stabilize the mac and your arp cache will stabilize | 11:10 |
| boyam | when working in a tcp/ip environment..folks tend to forget about layer 1 and 2...which includes the mac address..if the mac isn't right....IP in turn will not work... | 11:12 |
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| cje | boyam, k, thx, we are going to get another NIC and try that. | 11:14 |
| boyam | is the existing nic onboard? | 11:15 |
| boyam | or pci card | 11:15 |
| cje | boyam, yes, it is on-board, and we are in the process of installing a new NIC. | 11:17 |
| boyam | ok... | 11:18 |
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| rdvon | hi | 11:21 |
| rdvon | hi | 11:21 |
| rdvon | hi | 11:21 |
| cje | rdvon, hi | 11:21 |
| cje | rdvon, how are you? | 11:21 |
| rdvon | I'm fine. | 11:21 |
| rdvon | I just wanted to see how many people actually used this os.. | 11:21 |
| rdvon | not many :) | 11:21 |
| boyam | lol... | 11:22 |
| rdvon | is this os meant for schools... or for kids.. or what? I'm really not sure :\ | 11:23 |
| boyam | rdvon..both | 11:23 |
| rdvon | oh. | 11:23 |
| rdvon | but wouldn't it be easier to just download all the packages on ubuntu or something? does it use gnome? | 11:24 |
| boyam | sigh | 11:26 |
| boyam | everyone has their own way of doing things i guess | 11:27 |
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| cje | boyam, swapping in a new nic and setting a static ip cleared up almost all the problems | 12:26 |
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| moquist | ogra, LaserJock: good news - I got around the moodle removal bug... || true seems to have fixed it. | 12:47 |
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| moquist | ogra, LaserJock: my latest package is on its way to REVU right now | 12:47 |
| LaserJock | oh, right | 12:47 |
| LaserJock | great | 12:47 |
| moquist | LaserJock: but invoke-rc.d was *completing*... | 12:47 |
| boyam | cje:great | 12:47 |
| moquist | I don't get it, but at least it's working now. | 12:48 |
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| moquist | LaserJock: Sorry; I meant that the script was getting to 'exit 0' at the end and doing so; that's the important part. (invoke-rc.d could *complete*, but with a non-zero RC and break things.) | 12:49 |
| LaserJock | that makes some sense, I don't know that I would have thought of that right away though, obviously ;-) | 12:50 |
| moquist | LaserJock: will you be able to test the package and get back to me? should I be doing anything more right now? | 12:50 |
| LaserJock | as soon as they are up I'll test them | 12:50 |
| LaserJock | moquist: did you do the -standalone metapackage yet? | 12:51 |
| moquist | No. So I should work on that, then. :) | 12:51 |
| LaserJock | yeah, you could work on that while I'm testing | 12:51 |
| LaserJock | it should be just a matter of creating a new binary stanza in debian/control | 12:52 |
| moquist | the upload to REVU is complete | 12:52 |
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