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runleveltenWell, thanks. You?01:46
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lavacano201014not bad01:46
spreemike, ill do that01:46
elzbalFor me, I choose reiserfs for all partitions.01:46
intelikeyfor some reason this string in the postinst script is exiting 101:46
intelikey    ucf --debconf-ok /usr/share/fuse-utils/default $CONFFILE01:46
intelikey    [[ -f $CONFFILE ] ]  && . $CONFFILE01:46
lavacano201014i cant get my lunch at the usual vending machine for a while01:46
lavacano201014but good nonetheless01:46
draikrunlevelten: Good01:46
draiklavacano201014: Why not? What's wrong with the machine?01:47
intelikeyhow would  " ucf --debconf-ok /usr/share/fuse-utils/default filename "   call an exit 1  in the script ?01:47
lavacano201014nothing01:47
lavacano201014boss just confined me to my desk01:47
lavacano201014i have an odd boss01:47
lavacano201014and i want my job01:47
lavacano201014only time i can leave it is when i have IT duties to do01:47
draiklavacano201014: Ever seen Fight Club? Maybe something like that would work for you!01:47
lavacano201014never heard of it01:48
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lavacano201014draik: but google is king for me so i might ask it01:48
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tobias__hey is there any admin who helped configuring your channel bot? (which is based on supybot I think ?! )01:48
intelikeyhow cam  " ucf --debconf-ok /usr/share/fuse-utils/default /etc/default/fuse-utils "   call an exit 1  in the script ?01:49
draiklavacano201014: It's a great movie. A few years (12+ years) old, but good01:49
lavacano201014heh01:49
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lavacano201014draik: i saw a similar movie called Kung Pow01:50
lavacano201014it was entertaining01:50
draikNO01:50
draikEnter the Fist?01:50
lavacano201014yes01:50
draikThe parody movie?01:50
lavacano201014indee01:50
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lavacano201014+d01:50
draikhaha01:50
lavacano201014but only the second half01:50
draikI remember that movie01:50
winbondkung pow is like the worst movie ever01:51
intelikeyok that's a bug in the dapper fuse-utils package  the postinst script  line "ucf --debconf-ok /usr/share/fuse-utils/default"    exit's the script.    this needs fixed.      note this does BREAK the package and ties up dpkg.01:51
draiksqueezy shoes and beats himself up, "Wee-ooo-eee-ooo-eee-ooo" crying, "Call me 'Betty'", ninja cow, etc01:51
intelikey!staff01:52
ubotuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)01:52
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ninhobombalavacano201014: how do i erase that useless partition?01:53
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Zaelorehello01:54
lavacano201014ninhobomba: what is your desktop environment01:54
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Zaelorefor some reason kubuntu is not seeing all the memory on my computer, does anyone know how to get it to see all?01:54
ZaeloreI have 128 mb built in w/ a 1gb chip, it sees 754 mb01:55
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ninhobombalavacano201014: kde01:56
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lavacano201014ninhobomba: try QTParted01:56
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lavacano201014i was asking because GNOME had one built in01:56
ninhobombalavacano201014: is it in the livecd?01:56
elzbalZaelore: When you boot the computer, does the bios see it all?01:56
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lavacano201014yes01:57
Zaeloreno01:57
Zaelorewhoah simul reply01:57
elzbalheh01:57
lavacano201014ninhobomba: it probably is in the livecd01:57
ZaeloreI'm pretty sure it only sees 700something01:57
elzbalZaelore: That would be why... the OS can't see any more memory than the bios does.01:57
Zaeloreoh01:57
lavacano201014ninhobomba: some distro installers also have one built in01:58
ZaeloreI forgot to mention I'm running on an iBook g4 933 mhz apple computer01:58
elzbalZaelore:You may be able to change some bios settings to get more memory visible....01:58
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Zaeloreso I think it's openfirmware not bios ?01:59
elzbalwell, yeah, but it's the same thing.  :)01:59
elzbalmore-or-less01:59
Zaeloregreat01:59
Zaeloreso where do I start?01:59
Bebegehey ya'll...02:00
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Bebegeanyone here has the song Makes me wonder by Maroon 5?02:00
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draikWhat is an SFV file?02:01
draikWhat does it do?02:01
elzbalZaelore: I googled around for the specs, and it looks like the computer should support 1152MB of memory...   http://lowendmac.com/ibooks/g4-14.html02:02
BebegeSFV !02:02
elzbalZaelore: I'm not sure what to do after that... I've never really used openfirmware heavily.02:02
draik!sfv02:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sfv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:02
draikBebege: ...?02:02
Bebegeuh huh.. think I put it in the wrong order....02:03
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Zaeloreelzbal it can see the memory in mac os x but linux has trouble finding it02:03
Bebegefraik, you have that song by maron 5, it's called Makes me wonder?02:03
Bebegedraik*02:03
draikNope02:04
Bebegedamn....02:04
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Bebegeno one in here has that song?02:04
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elzbalZaelore: Darn, then I really wouldn't know where to begin. I have't had Mac hardware since the days of Power Computing.  :)02:04
Zaeloreheh02:04
Zaelorewell ok that's only issue #102:05
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Zaelorenumber 2 is how to get wireless to work when it comes back from sleep02:05
ZaeloreI have a command that makes it work, how do I make it automatic when it comes back from sleep?02:06
Bebegenever miind ya'll... finally found it in Frostwire....02:06
ZaeloreMaroon 5 : /02:06
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Bebegeyea....02:06
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mneptokBebege: please don't talk about IP theft on #ubuntu* channels02:11
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mneptokBebege: in this litigious climate ... it's a bad idea. :/02:11
mneptok(thanks RIAA!)02:11
maurihi all, I've a problem with my webcam....someone can help me please?02:12
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mauriis there someone?02:14
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Max-PDoes anyone know how to start the Power Manager?02:16
Max-P(manually)02:16
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thomasi'm trying to install libntfs-3g0_1.328-1_i386.deb so I can access my windows folders02:20
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thomasI think that's what I"m suppost to do to access windows folders but anyway when I try to install it I get an error saying, dependency problems02:20
runleveltenDon't download debs and try to install them alone thomas02:21
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runlevelten!adept02:21
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto02:22
runlevelten!ntfs02:22
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse02:22
thomasrunlevelten: why02:22
thomasyea02:22
runleveltenbecause you have package management available to you, which is much better.02:22
runlevelten!apt02:22
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)02:22
thomaslibntfs-3g0_1.328-1_i386.deb02:22
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runleveltenThere is no reason you should have downloaded that file, so not "yeah".02:23
runleveltenRead the links given :)02:23
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thomasok thanks02:24
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runleveltenNo probs02:24
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runleveltenSorry if I sounded a little curt - didn't mean to.02:24
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runleveltenGood luck thomas :)02:25
thomashehe no I'm obligated to research also not rely only on you02:25
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thomasI don't want to abuse your help :) I like it :)02:25
WaxyFreshhi im compiling my own kernel for fun.im trying to follow these directions:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835 but my computer wont boot under vesa its running fglrx right now what should i do?02:25
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BluesKajthomas , I like your atitude :)02:25
thomasBluesKaj: :S02:26
BluesKajerr attitude02:26
EightiesKcould some one pastebucket there menu.lst with windows xp ?02:26
thomasBluesKaj: well I'm right ain't I02:26
BluesKajyup02:26
ricky_ds_Hi all, I'm testing Gutsy Gibbon 5 and wondering if this is the place to discuss it or if there's a specific channel?02:27
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Biovorericky_ds_: ubuntu+102:28
ricky_ds_Biovore: thanks02:28
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EightiesKcould some one pastebucket there menu.lst with windows xp ?02:28
BluesKajEightiesK, http://www.pastebin.ca/68653102:29
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EightiesKBluesKaj: thank you02:31
BluesKajgood luck02:31
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erichjwhy doesn't dell let people know they sell ubuntu in their sales mag. i just got the september issue and not even a single mention02:32
Fil_hey i need some sound help02:33
Fil_can anyone give me some advice02:33
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Fil_i have a pci soundblaster live card... and onboard sound aswell02:33
ricky_ds_Fil_: what is your prob?02:33
Fil_i need to disable the onboard02:33
Fil_cause amarok gets confused. works sometimes, others it wont02:34
sammyfor anyone curious about my no networks in the knetworkmanager list, here's debug.log: NetworkManager: <WARNING>^I nm_dbus_get_networks_cb (): error received: org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo.NoNetworks - org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo.NoNetworks.02:34
sammywhich is odd, considering iwlist eth0 scan reports all essids within range :( *goes googling*02:35
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WaxyFreshhi im compiling my own kernel for fun.im trying to follow these directions:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835 but my computer wont boot under vesa its running fglrx right now what should i do?02:35
sammyit's possible, when I installed from the livecd, that the networking settings it used to connect before the installation were somehow transferred to the /target settings before reboot, which didn't happen with the minicd? don't quote me.02:36
sammyWaxyFresh: what video driver are you trying to use? it wont boot with vesa?02:36
Zaeloredoes anyone know how to make a script run as root when the computer returns from suspension?02:37
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winbondcan someone look at this compiling log of vmmon module and tell me what the problem is ?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36748/02:39
sammyZaelore: check /etc/apm/02:40
WaxyFreshsammy: fglrx i have  a ati readeon card02:40
WaxyFreshsammy: but the howto says i need to switch it to vesa for compiling the kernel02:41
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WaxyFreshbrb02:42
Zaeloreok testing it02:42
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KDEfanboyhow do you install the minimal kubuntu installation (not full default) from the kubuntu cd?02:43
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Zaeloresammy it didn't wokr02:45
sammyZaelore: I'm sure there are plenty of documents on how to use the files and scripts in ... oh. well.02:46
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Zaeloresammy putting the script in /etc/apm/resume.d didn't help02:46
Zaelorehow can I find out what software the computer is isuing to do the resume/suspend?02:47
sammyZaelore: I'm sure there are plenty of documents on how to use the files and scripts in /etc/apm. I've no experience whatsoever in doing such things :P02:47
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Zaeloredarn >_>02:47
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WaxyFreshsammy: back,any idea?02:48
ordinorIf I install Ubuntu, then install Kubuntu-desktop, does what I end up with significantly differ from what I get when I install Kubuntu?02:49
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hydrogenmm02:49
hydrogenyea02:49
hydrogenin the "you now have more" side of things02:49
hydrogenthough02:50
ordinormm02:50
sammyWaxyFresh: what exactly isn't working? those directions ask you to change your proprietary driver to vesa *in X* until you get your new kernel working02:50
hydrogenyou could uninstall ubuntu-desktop and its depends and get to the same point02:50
sammyordinor: what hydrogen said.02:50
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ordinornot "having more" was one of the things that initially bothered me about Kubuntu02:50
Random832where can i install fonts in my homedir?02:51
KDEfanboyordinor: right here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE02:51
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Syntethhi, i recently have installed kubuntu-desktop, and in order to get some information about it without boring my friends, i would like to know if some of you could recomend me a nice link with the basic and so not basic information about using it.02:53
KDEfanboykubuntu-desktop should be the full kubuntu install02:53
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saputhe kubuntu website is prob good02:53
fildofixed02:53
fildoi just had a sound issue..02:53
sapudoes anyone know how to get pinyin input on kubuntu working with skim/scim?02:53
fildohttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-79314.html02:54
thomaswhen I try to install my package in apt it says the status is broken02:54
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KDEfanboySynteth: desktop guide http://www.kubuntu.org/documentation.php02:54
drewcipher!pinyin >drewcipher02:54
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sapudrewcipher: ?02:54
flaccid!adeptfix > thomas02:55
drewciphersapu:  I've never heard of pinyin so I was using the ubuntu bot to send myself info on it (to see if it had an entry)02:55
sapuoh02:55
sapuok02:55
sapu!pinyin > sapu02:55
flaccidpinyin is pseudo language to phonetically describe mandarin02:55
elzbal!pinyin | sapu02:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pinyin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:56
elzbal!pinyin > elzbal02:56
sapuit's a romanization system for Chinese02:56
sapuMandarin Chinese02:56
SyntethKDEfanboy thanks, i like to learn by myself, but the most important thing it's the veracity of it. ^^02:56
thomaswhen I try to install my package in apt it says the status is broken02:56
thomaswhen I try to install my package in adept manager it says the status is broken02:57
flaccidthomas: don't repeat02:57
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thomaslol yea i know sorry didn't write it the first time02:57
flaccidright..02:57
flaccidpastebin the error thomas02:57
WaxyFreshsammy i changed it from fglrx to vesa,when i boot x wont load,i gusse it dosent like vesa02:58
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flaccidvesa should always work02:59
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flaccidreason will be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:59
thomasflaccid: wow how did that command know what file was causing problems03:00
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flaccidthomas: i don't understand03:00
thomasflaccid: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a03:00
flaccidbecause the command contains the location of the dpkg lock file..03:01
thomasflaccid: hmmm ok sorry i'm new to this03:01
flaccidok03:01
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thomasflaccid: it tells me libntfs-3g0 is installed but broken03:04
KeinAlright, for some reason, dpkg is locking up and I have no clue how to fix it.03:05
flacciddo you know what pastebin is thomas?03:05
KeinThe instructions I did get didn't work. =/03:05
flaccid!adeptfix > Kein03:05
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flaccidKein: if the !adeptfix command doesn't work you might have to reboot03:05
thomasflaccid: well I took what the bot sent me and I pasted it into command prompt03:05
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flaccid!pastebin > thomas03:06
KeinThanks.03:06
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flaccidpaste the output of the command to pastebin and then paste the link to it here03:06
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KeinALright, it's forcing my previous commands through.03:07
flaccidwhat does that mean03:07
fildoboobies = newbies03:07
KeinIt locked up as I was installing some stuff and the command is starting where Adept left off.03:07
flaccidok..03:07
fildook..03:08
fildois there an echo in here03:08
fildo:)03:08
flaccid!punctuation03:08
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!03:08
flaccid:p03:08
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fildo!punctuation > flaccid03:08
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WaxyFreshsammy: ?03:10
thomasflaccid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36750/03:10
Keinokay, now adept's not downloading anything. =/03:11
flaccidah well03:11
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flaccidthomas: re generate your sources.list then do a sudo apt-get update03:12
flaccidthen deal with any errors03:12
thomasflaccid: what do you mean re generate sources.list03:13
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fildouse sourceomatic03:13
flaccid!source-o-matic | thomas03:13
ubotuthomas: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:13
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flaccidcome back to when you are done03:14
thomasok03:14
thomasthanks03:14
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sammyfor anyone curious still about the no networks in knetworkmanager, the installation cd let me set my wireless device to default to eth0 and my wired to eth1. i changed /etc/iftab to have my wireless as wlan0 and my wired as eth0 and it seems to be working. i'm off to file a bug :)03:16
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flaccidsammy: sweet. there are so many issues with networkmanager, it really annoys me and with ubuntu its like its a dependency - every time i've removed it becasue it doesn't work or interferes - network fails on startup03:17
sammyand I also see: '/etc/iftab' has been deprecated in favor of '/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules'03:17
sammyyeah networkmanager is fantastic when it works03:17
sammyit'll be great when we iron out all the kinks. true roaming capabilities! *dream*03:17
sammyoh, that pasted quote was from the gusty changes.03:18
flaccidyeah the udev / iftab stuff should of be ironed out years ago. its a shame its still not right. on other unix systems they don't fork the network like this03:18
KeinI feel stupid, how do I reboot?  Every time I've tried it it's just like setting it on hibernate. =(03:18
flaccidKein: from the k menu or sudo reboot . if it goes into hibernate you might have an acpi or other problem03:18
Keinalright. ;/03:19
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sea4everAlright, serious question here :03:20
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sea4everIs there a DOS emulator? or command prompt emulator?03:21
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flatulentapt-get install dosbox03:21
WaxyFreshsea4ever: why?learn to use the command line its soooo much more powerfull and for basic stuff not all that diffrent03:21
flaccidwtf03:22
sea4everbut I wanna be  able to test my programs which I make for command prompt. I can't find a way to compile them either. D:03:22
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KeinWell, that didn't work.03:22
KeinAll it did was restore my session. =/03:22
flaccidits not command prompt. are we talking dos here?03:22
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Keinhuh?03:23
flaccidKein: what was it meant to do03:23
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Keinflaccid: kill my current session, shut down, reboot, start a new session03:23
Keinhmm03:23
Keinone second03:23
flaccidwhat are you trying to achive Kein03:23
flaccidmeh03:23
sea4evercontrol + alt + backspace03:23
fulat2khi folks, i have kdebluetooth file transfer app running and it's able to find my mobile phone.  howver, i can't seem to xfer files from my phone.  any idea how i can achieve that?03:23
flaccidwhy would you want to kill X?03:23
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KeinWell, that was fruitless.03:24
KeinEnd current session, try again, restoring session. =(03:25
KeinHow do I force it to NOT restore a session and instead boot up normally?03:26
flaccidgoto session manager03:26
flaccidturn off sessions03:26
KeinI might be blind, but I'm not seeing a session manager.03:27
flaccidits in system settings | advanced03:27
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winbondcan someone look at this compiling log of vmmon module and tell me what the problem is ?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36748/03:27
KeinNot seeing it...03:27
flaccidwinbond: don't think here is the place for that03:28
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flaccidKein: open kcontrol and search for session then03:28
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sea4eversudo apt-get install dosbox : "Depends : libsdl-net1.2  but it is not installable.    Depends : libsdl-sound1.2 but it is not installable   O_o03:36
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flaccid!info libsdl-net1.203:36
ubotulibsdl-net1.2: network library for Simple DirectMedia Layer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.5-7 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 64 kB03:36
flaccidsea4ever: is universe enabled and did a sudo apt-get update before?03:37
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sea4everer..universe enabled?03:38
flatulentworked for me03:38
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flaccid!repos > sea4ever03:38
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AirstrikeIvanovHi everyone. I just installed a new CDRW drive to replace a broken one. How do I find out if I need extra drivers or software or whatnot for it?03:40
flaccidAirstrikeIvanov: put a cd in03:40
modorhello, anyone use tovid?  The #tovid channel is not giving me any responses03:40
AirstrikeIvanovusing Unreal Tournament lol03:40
flaccidyou don't need anything extra for the drive if it works.03:41
modoranyone know which way the 'quality' scale tips in Tovid? it is a scale of 1 - 10.03:42
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inaetyanyone know where i can some cool large scale (1600x1200) atmospheric wallpapers? moon, stars, you get it...03:43
WaxyFresh(08:35:42 PM) WaxyFresh: hi im compiling my own kernel for fun.im trying to follow these directions:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835 but my computer wont boot under vesa its running fglrx right now what should i do?03:43
flaccidinaety: google03:43
modoras I said, the Tovid channel is not very active right now. not sure where else I could ask03:43
inaetyflaccid: convenient answer03:43
flaccidWaxyFresh: use fglrx its faster than vesa and the vid driver is irrelevant for compilation of a kernel03:43
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WaxyFreshflaccid: then whys it say i need to switch to vesa for compiling?03:44
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inaetyflaccid: i've tried google, i just think people know better sites for this kind of tinhg03:44
inaetything03:44
flaccidWaxyFresh: what are you compiling and with what? you don't need X to compile most things03:44
zippoKDE4 is automatically installed with kubuntu 7.04?03:44
flaccidinaety: this is kubuntu support channel. try !offtopic03:44
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stdinzippo: no03:45
flaccidzippo: no kde303:45
WaxyFreshim trying to compile a custom kernel for no reason,im bored and want to learn.i think its a good reason03:45
flaccid!kernel03:45
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild03:45
flacciddid you read the kernelcustombuild page?03:46
modorokay, thanks all03:46
WaxyFreshno just http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5683503:46
winbondcan vmware server be installed with apt-get?03:46
WaxyFreshit seems to be the easyist howto out there03:46
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flaccidWaxyFresh: use the wiki guide.03:46
stdinwinbond: yeah, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server03:46
flaccid!vmware | winbond03:47
ubotuwinbond: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers03:47
WaxyFreshflaccid: do you know the difference?03:47
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flaccidWaxyFresh: no i don't.03:47
WaxyFreshill check it out03:47
flaccidi would think wiki would be more accurate/de facto than a forum post03:47
zippodoes kubuntu have auto mount?03:48
flaccidzippo: yes03:48
zippook one last questin03:48
flatulentWaxyFresh:  it says switch to vesa X server because ati and nvidia use kernel modules which might not work with the new kernel03:49
zippowhy does ubuntu format the HD differently?n03:49
zipponot using NTFS?03:49
zippois it cause the instructions wont work or what?03:49
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KeinWell, for some reason it's still restoring sessions. I decided to boot up on XP to clear my head for the moment, though.03:49
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stdinzippo: ubuntu and kubuntu format the disk in the same way03:49
flaccidflatulent: ah i see the reason thanks for that! only problem is vesa didn't even work for him03:49
flaccidzippo: its because its not windows, its linux03:50
zippoyes but that creates a big problem03:50
thomashow can I be logged into my account and be able to see all other users files? it says that the desktop is locked, but I thought I was admin03:50
flaccidzippo: why is that03:50
zippoi have program that can only encrypt disks that are NTFS03:50
zippodrivecrypt03:50
flaccid!ntfs03:50
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse03:50
zippoand i wanted to have linux encrypted as well03:51
flaccidthere is still ntfs support03:51
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flaccidlinux cannot run on ntfs03:51
zippoi know but the program wont run on linux03:51
zippoand i dont know any equal subs03:51
flaccidopengpg03:51
flaccidi mean gnupg03:51
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flaccid!encryption03:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about encryption - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:51
flaccidor encFS03:51
flaccida few options out there, not something normal on linux03:51
zippowhich one works more like drivecrypt?03:52
flaccidno idea03:52
zippowhat happens if i need to recover a drive?03:52
flaccidim sure non of them work the same as drivecrypt03:52
flaccidi don't know03:52
zippoontrack doesnt see the format linux uses03:52
flaccidrecovering encrypted data is  problem whichever was it was done..03:52
flaccidontracks problem..03:52
zippono not encrypted03:52
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zippounencrypted03:52
zippobut ontrack wont be able to recover03:52
zippo=/03:52
flaccidyes you can recover ext2 for example03:52
flaccidwho cares about ontrack03:53
zippoyou can?03:53
zippogreat software03:53
flaccidyes its great, but its not free03:53
flaccidzippo: google is good to get answers like these quick03:53
stdinzippo: go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ and search for encrypt, there's lots there03:53
eegorewhy is it that kopete will connect to msn in feisty 64 bit but will not work in kubuntu feisty 32 bit03:54
flaccidbut yes you can recover ext2 usually. data recovery is not something done by a user or sysadmin usually .its a specialist area.03:54
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syntethcan someone give me a link that talks about important commands and how to use them well at the konsole?03:56
stdin!cli03:56
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal03:56
flaccidnice03:56
syntethvery fast =)03:57
flaccidim going to read it myself03:57
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synteththank you03:57
stdinhmm, how many of you knew there was an ubuntu search engine? http://us.cypherbios.org/ :)03:57
flaccidw0a that page is wack stdin03:57
thomashow can I be logged into my account and be able to see all other users files? it says that the desktop is locked, but I thought I was admin03:58
flaccidstdin: doesn't even work in konqi03:58
flaccidthomas: don't repeat03:58
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zippowhat format does linux use?03:59
stdin!away > xera^zzz03:59
zippofor the HD that is03:59
zippowhats the name?03:59
thomaslol i asked my question like 10  minutes ago thought u didn't get it03:59
stdinflaccid: yeah, it is in beta (and I did report that :)03:59
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kubureaucrat_greetings oh wise cabal of kubuntu users03:59
flaccidzippo: by default ubuntu uses the ext2 filesystem iirc04:00
zippothanks04:00
stdinthomas: you're not an admin unless doing an admin task04:00
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stdinzippo: ext3 actually04:00
flaccidthomas: people will answer if they can help04:00
zippokk04:00
kubureaucrat_i have come to seek your wisdom regarding my cd and dvd drives usually not being recognized04:00
flaccidwhen did it change to ext304:00
zippoext3 since what version?04:00
thomasno flaccid i mean you told me not to repeat, I guess that was the bot04:00
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flaccidstdin: google works fine. i don't see the point of the search engine04:01
thomasstdin: alright so I want to set up my account so I can view other sub users accounts...04:01
stdinflaccid: searches only *buntu pages, like the wiki and launchpad04:01
stdinthomas: that's to do with permissions, you have to change all the other users $HOME dirs to be word readable04:02
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kubureaucrat_for example at the moment i have a cd-r in an external cd rom drive, but it is not recognized.  yes, it is connected correctly.  i have had many positive experiences with this ext cd rom drive, but generally on bootup only.  when i try to do more, it disappears like mist in the late morning.04:03
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thomasstdin: yea permissions, I was in the user management thing and there are all these secondary groups, do I have to change sometime there?04:04
zippook thank you everyone04:05
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stdinthomas: no, you have to do it manually, there's no setting for it because it's considered "insecure"04:05
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fildogone04:05
thomasstdin: lol insecure? but I''m the ROOT admin thing. LIke how are web owners suppost to be able to control useres folders04:06
kubureaucrat_will any wise wizard of the kubuntu kabal humor me in my humble kuest?04:06
flaccidstdin: ah ok you can do that in google too. but yeah if they did it web standards and it worked, it would be good :)04:06
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flaccidthomas: root can do cli, but not advised for X04:06
stdinthomas: you are not root, and "web owners" would use the cli with sudo04:06
thomaslol I don't know what cli is04:07
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flaccidthomas: command line interface eg. konsole04:07
thomasoh i'm dumb04:07
flaccidlol i doubt it04:08
flatulentkubureaucrat:  unplug it, wait 1 minute, plug it back in, run dmesg,  tell us what drive designation it gets04:08
thomas:) <304:08
flaccidthomas: you can do konqueror or krusader in root mode however04:08
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flaccidthomas: kdesu konqueror04:08
flatulentkubureaucrat: leave a disk in it04:09
kubureaucrat_flatulent i shall04:09
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flatulenttvlistings.zap2it.com04:09
czer323Plenty of online tv guides.04:09
stdin!tv04:09
ubotuhttp://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out04:09
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flaccid!freeguide | sea4ever04:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about freeguide - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:10
flaccid!info freeguide | sea4ever04:10
ubotusea4ever: freeguide: Displays TV listings. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.10.4-2 (feisty), package size 735 kB, installed size 1116 kB04:10
ubuntuSweet04:10
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ubuntuWhat do I need to do to get on that?04:10
sea4everYEAH!!!04:10
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flaccidget on what04:10
KubunteroFreeguide04:10
flaccidinstall the package freeguide from multiverse04:10
Krumcan anyone tell me how to extract .bat files on ubuntu?04:10
Krumhelp would be grateful04:11
thomasok I mean when I click on the other users folders properties it says that the "group" cannot access it, but I would like to change it so that noone except me can do so, maybe I should upload a screenshot?04:11
flaccidKrum: a .bat is usually a windows batch file which is ascii text - open in text editor04:11
KubunteroKrum: Extract? they are text files04:11
stdinKrum: .bat? that's just a script04:11
Krumit says it cannot find any program to execute it with04:11
KubunteroHow do I submit a stations info to freeguide?04:11
Krumits an unpak thing04:11
Krum_unpak.bat04:11
flaccidKrum: they cannot run on linux. its a windows batch file04:11
kubureaucrat_flatulent: [ 5320.223692]  scsi 7:0:0:0: CD-ROM            Memorex  DVD+-RAM 510L v1 MWS7 PQ: 0 ANSI: 004:11
Krumdangitr04:11
KubunteroKrum: Ok what are you trying to do?04:11
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Krumgimme a sec...04:12
flatulentkubureaucrat: does it say anything about  sda, sdb, sdc, etc.... ?04:12
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kubureaucratflatulent moment04:13
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flatulenti've had many04:13
kubureaucratflatulent above or below the line i copiedeth above04:14
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DaSkreechflaccid: Any idea?04:14
flatulentprobably below04:14
flaccidDaSkreech:  on what04:14
KrumIs there any program I can run under wine to unpack this .bat file?04:14
DaSkreechflaccid: How I would get a programs content onto freeguide?04:15
flaccidKrum: the .bat will be unpacking other file(s). goto ##windows for help04:15
kubureaucratflatulent three lines follow04:15
kubureaucratsr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray04:15
flaccidDaSkreech: never used it sorry04:15
DaSkreechflaccid: Ah04:15
kubureaucratsr 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr104:15
DaSkreechflaccid: know how to remap Multimedia keys?04:15
kubureaucratsr 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 504:15
flaccidDaSkreech: hotkeys perhaps04:15
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Krumty04:15
gundam_rx78nt1Anybody here that has gotten a laptop to display on both outputs (LCD, Monitor) without any resolution problems?04:15
flatulentdid you leave a disc in it?04:16
kubureaucratindeed04:16
DaSkreechflaccid: ok Well Right now vol up and down maps to the headphone I need it to map to the speakers04:16
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gundam_rx78nt1I need to get output on my laptop lcd and a projector.04:16
flaccidDaSkreech: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys04:16
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kubureaucrati do declare that, while i am fond of the help, the flaccidity and flatulence of the kubuntu kommunity does much offend04:16
kubureaucrat:)04:16
flatulentkubureaucrat: just guessing here,  mkdir /media/sr1    mount /dev/sr1 /media/sr104:17
kubureaucratexecute those two lines?04:17
DaSkreechflaccid: Brilliant!04:17
flaccidi thought be flaccid would be less offensive than the opposing04:18
kubureaucrat'tis offensive flaccid, 'tis offensive erect.  always 'tis offensive.04:18
flaccidi thought we lived in a pretty offensive world anyway04:19
syntethsorry again for disturbing, but what's the konsole command for "paste"?04:19
flaccidone only needs to turn on the tv04:19
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flaccidsynteth: shift + insert04:19
DaSkreechsynteth: Sorry?04:19
DaSkreechsynteth: to paste text?04:19
flaccidor right click | paste04:19
syntethto paste a file04:19
DaSkreechShift+Inseet or midlle click04:19
DaSkreechsynteth: the contents of a file or the name of a file ?04:20
flaccidneed to be copied to clipboard first04:20
kubureaucratflatulent: action was achieved.  i heard yonder external drive bustle about.04:20
BluesKajone can always change one's nick and be offensive ...letting a flag fly in here isn't exactly the right venue, if you have some kind of cause04:20
flatulentls /media/sr104:20
syntethDaSkreech: i've made cp "file" "newrenamefile"04:21
gundam_rx78nt1I need to get output on my laptop lcd and a projector at the same time. Any pointers?04:21
thomasflaccid: http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/4425/snapshot1zl1.png how do I change access permissions of group there so I can view files?04:21
kubureaucratflatulent okay it registered the contents.  however it is still not recognized on my main panel among the media.04:21
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flatulentmerelyeth cosmeticeth04:22
syntethDaSkreech: and it seems to create a copy of that file, and i dont now how to paste that file to another directory04:22
DaSkreechsynteth: Right whAT are you trying to copy?04:22
winbondanyone ever found a stable version of kde?04:22
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DaSkreechsynteth: mv04:22
DaSkreechsynteth: mv newfile /path/to/directory04:23
kubureaucratflatulent okay.  but i am going to go see if k3b recognizes it.  'tis there where i have encountered most sustained problems.04:23
syntethDaSkreech: and ordinary ,kexi document04:23
DaSkreechsynteth: that does a cut and paste to the new directory04:23
flatulentand good luck to you fearless adventurer04:23
flaccidthomas: did you run konqueror under kdesu like i said?04:23
sea4everFinally, The apt-get update command finished!04:23
DaSkreechwinbond: KDE 1.004:23
kubureaucratmoment04:23
flaccidwinbond: kde is more stable than you think, most of the problems are usually cos other layers04:23
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syntethDaSkreech: ohh thanks, and a copy?04:24
DaSkreechsynteth: cp04:24
DaSkreechsynteth: cp newfile /path/to/directory04:24
DaSkreech!commands | synteth04:24
ubotusynteth: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal04:24
thomasflaccid: kdesu=kdesktopu?04:24
flaccidthomas: no04:25
DaSkreech!kmultimedia04:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kmultimedia - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:25
flaccidthomas: kdesu konqueror from alt + f204:25
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syntethDaSkreech: yes, but need to write the complete path?04:25
DaSkreech!kmultimedia is Trying to get your Multimedia keyboard working in KDE? No Problem take a look at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys04:25
syntethDaSkreech: from the begining i missed to say04:26
DaSkreechsynteth: not if you know the relative path04:26
syntethDaSkreech: imagine i would like to put it on my Desktop04:26
syntethDaSkreech: how should i write the path?04:26
DaSkreechsynteth: So if you are copying to a directory on your Desktop called Term you would say <cp newfile Desktop/Term04:27
DaSkreech>04:27
DaSkreech :-)04:27
kubureaucratflatulent okay it recognized it.  yet i fear it will disappear again.  similar things have occurred with yon internal cd/dvd-r drive.  how shall i prevent the dragon of disappearance in the future, both on yon extenrnal and internal drive hards?04:27
kubureaucratflatulent thank you04:27
DaSkreechsynteth: You know absolute and relative paths ?04:27
flatulentyou are welcome, but you have plumbed the depths of my knowledge04:28
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syntethDaSkreech: so the cd i'm in don't have a point in the path i write? well, i don't really know. i'm just getting friend of the konsole04:28
flaccidyeah04:29
thomasflaccid: lol ok I ran it but why can't I view any folders?04:29
DaSkreechsynteth: if you put a / then you are starting at the top of the tree04:29
thomasflaccid: in \root theres nothing there04:29
flaccidsynteth: so if the command was makecoffee and its in your pwd (present working directory) then you can run it either by ./makecoffee or makecofee04:29
DaSkreechsynteth: if you don't then you are starting from the Current Folder04:29
flaccidthomas: you probably want to go to /home04:29
DaSkreechsynteth: If you have a subfolder named Desktop then just type Desktop04:30
flaccidthomas: /root is root's home04:30
kubureaucratflatulent will you share the font of your wisdom, the cause of your action, oh wise one04:30
DaSkreechsynteth: Does that make sense?04:30
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syntethDaSkreech: i've writen cp Desktop04:31
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flaccidto copy a folder and all its contents use cp -R myfolder04:32
flaccidcp -R myfolder /my/destination04:32
DaSkreechsynteth: No you have to put the file you want to copy first then where you are copying it to04:32
DaSkreechflaccid: he is copying into Desktop04:32
sea4ever"folder 'myfolder' does not exist" <- problem.04:32
flatulentkubureaucrat: beans04:32
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syntethDaSkreech: and i just moving folder to folder, my unique proble04:33
synteth~/Desktop/isel$ cp -r /Desktop Isel.kexi04:33
syntethcp: cannot stat `/Desktop': No such file or directory04:33
kubureaucratflatulent yet why did you tell me the wise commands you did, oh learned one04:33
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flaccidmy bad04:33
flatulentdmesg command will reveal such things as hotplug events.04:33
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DaSkreechsynteth: other way around04:34
kubureaucratokay04:34
kubureaucratand in making those directories we resolved something?04:34
DaSkreechsynteth: what you are copying THEN where you are copying it to04:34
flatulentusually dmesg will reveal a drive designation of the form sdX, where X is a variable equalling an alphabetic character04:34
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flatulentin you case it was not of  the form sdX, so I guessed the drive designation must be sr104:35
Biovoreflatulent: could be sg*04:36
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flatulentguessing again that the appropriate subdirectory was not created in /media i suggest you create that04:36
flatulentthen the standard mount command was suggested by I04:36
flatulentyou followed faithfully all the above suggestions04:37
kubureaucratso mayhap i should add such commands to yon autostart04:37
syntethDaSkreech: oh ok, sorry about my lame question, but no one born teach, unfortunatly :p04:37
flatulentyou achieved your goal04:37
flatulentyou may do as you wish, providing of course that the country in which you reside is free04:38
kubureaucrati only achieved my goal, oh great one, because of thy wisdom04:38
kubureaucrati mean o great one04:38
kubureaucrati beg thee pardon my grammatical mishap04:38
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Deihmosfinally got ubuntu and the nvidia drivers installed. What a pain04:39
Deihmosnow where can i get rid of this ugly brown desktop04:39
savetheWorldikea04:39
sea4everThis Adept thing is great, I can sped hours downloading stuff that I will never use!04:39
hydrogenwithout having to search :)04:39
sea4ever"automatic mouse click" <- this is cool04:40
FlatfenderWhile trying to install the package compizconfig-settings-manager it tells me that it doesn't exist. I'm following this walk through on installing compiz. http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-58113.shtml04:40
sea4ever"mouse odometer" <- O.o *clicks on request install*04:40
DaSkreechsynteth: Ask away :)04:40
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hydrogendon't do it!04:40
hydrogenknowing how many miles you put on your mouse makes you wince04:40
DaSkreechsynteth: Did you get the URL ?04:40
flaccidFlatfender: #ubuntu-effects04:41
DaSkreechflaccid: ping04:41
flaccidpong04:41
neptunepinkflatulent: do you want to marry me?04:42
stdinflatulent: ?04:42
syntethDaSkreech: Thanks! when a doubt appears it must be solved! yes i've bookmarked it already, i'm reading it.. i just hope to pass to the next level faster :p04:42
flatulent?04:43
evri2|purepwnageflatulent: what is it?04:43
flatulent /ping #kubuntu04:43
evri2|purepwnagerolf04:43
DaSkreechsynteth: It's really cool when you get a handle on it04:43
evri2|purepwnageffs04:43
stdinstop that04:43
evri2|purepwnagesorry04:43
DaSkreechflaccid: I;m reading https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys04:43
hydrogen..04:44
hydrogendon't do that again please04:44
hydrogenever04:44
hydrogenor i'll stab you04:44
DaSkreechIt says to go to System settings -> Regional and language ?04:44
sea4everwow...if I knew how much more my hand moves on the computer before...who needs to go run around anymore? just moving my mouse is enough exercise!04:44
DaSkreechAnd hydrogen is no lightweight!04:44
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flaccidok04:44
DaSkreechflaccid: Is that close to correct or am I being silly?04:45
thomasflaccid: if your still there, ok it worked thanks, but shouldn't I just log in as root all the time when I log into ubuntu. WHats the point for me to have an admin AND root account04:45
syntethDaSkreech: yes, i'm seeing that, the only problem seems to be the not enough or good tutorials about this.. it's pretty much faster with the konsole, i really like it.04:45
flaccidDaSkreech: it exists04:45
DaSkreechthomas: root is disabled unless you turn it back on04:45
DaSkreechflaccid: Yes. I know. But the keyboard shortcuts for Kmix are in there?04:45
stdinthomas: an admin account is just an account that can use root privileges, it's not root04:45
flaccidthomas: its bad practice to log in to X as root04:45
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flaccidDaSkreech: i dont think i can help you sorry04:46
thomaswhere can I view what priveleges root has that admin doesn't04:47
flaccidthomas: root can do 'anything'. admin can run commands under root via sudo04:47
neptunepinkthomas: system settings04:47
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c1|freakyanyone knows  of any good tool04:49
flaccidim a good tool04:49
neptunepinkLAR tools are fun04:50
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c1|freakyfor translation stuff04:50
c1|freakyand ... something like a applet for kicker04:50
flaccid!translation04:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about translation - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:50
c1|freakyfor it?04:50
flaccid!translate04:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about translate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:50
sea4everhellow cloud04:50
cloudhey is it possible to install suse rpms in kubuntu?04:50
flaccid!alien | cloud04:50
ubotucloud: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)04:50
thomasneptunepink: in system settings user management you can't see what admin can and root CAN do, it's only users and groups04:52
neptunepinkWell, I think what they can do is defined by what groups they are in04:52
flaccidthomas: please read what i last said.04:52
flaccid!permissions | thomas04:52
ubotuthomas: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux04:52
flaccid!root | thomas04:52
ubotuthomas: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo04:52
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neptunepinkubotu: Do you know tao?04:53
stdin!bot04:54
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots04:54
inaetyhello i installed kscreensaver-xsavers-extra but they added screen savers arent showing up in kcontrol04:55
Deihmoswhere can i get some decent themes for ubuntu04:56
Deihmosthis brown thing is ugly04:56
flaccid!themes04:57
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy04:57
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Deihmosok04:58
flatulentinaety: are they available when you left click on the destop04:58
FlatfenderNo one seems to be able to help over at effects.. no one seems to be there.04:58
Deihmosi think that is rthe same site i visited04:58
flatulentand select configure desktop?04:58
inaetyflatulent: nah04:59
inaetyFlatfender: what was your problem04:59
FlatfenderWhen trying to install the compizconfig-settings-manager it tells me that it can't find the package04:59
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flaccid!info compizconfig-settings-manager05:00
ubotuPackage compizconfig-settings-manager does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:00
flatulentewww, it did what inaety did and i had more screensavers before05:00
flaccidFlatfender: which repos is it in05:00
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inaetyFlatfender: run a "sudo apt-cache search compiz"05:02
inaetyand see if it shows05:02
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inaetyflatulent: i dont understand05:02
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Flatfenderhttp://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb fiesty eyecandy and http://download.tux.family.org/3v1deb fiesty eyecandy (source Code) those what you are looking for Flaccid05:02
flaccidsea4ever: no away scripts here please05:02
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flaccidFlatfender: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-cache madison compizconfig-settings-manager05:04
flatulentinaety: i had a nice set of screensavers, the i installed the kscreensaver-xsavers-extra package05:04
flaccidwhat does the last line say, Flatfender05:04
inaetyflatulent: how lame!05:04
flatulentnow i have a miserble few screensavers05:04
flatulentthen i installed, that is05:04
inaetyflatulent: the one i want is called Intermomentary05:04
FlatfenderFlaccid, do you want the line Fetched 4B in 0s (5b/S) or Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/restricted Sources05:05
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VinWistahey05:06
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VinWistahow do i run internet explorer 7 or 605:06
flaccidFlatfender: just output of sudo apt-cache madison compizconfig-settings-manager05:06
FlatfenderI get nothing from that.05:06
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flaccidFlatfender: do you get any errors when running sudo apt-get update with any repos? does the repos in question get retrieved?05:07
inaetyflatulent: anything?05:07
flatulentlooking05:07
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VinWista    Nek se ovaj vijek gordi nad svijema vjekovima,05:07
VinWista    on e era biti strana ljudskijema koljenima.05:08
VinWista    U nj se osam blizanacah u jedan mah iznjihae05:08
VinWista    iz kolevke Belonine, i na zemlji pokazae:05:08
VinWista    Napoleon, Karlo, Bliher, knez Velington i Suvorov.05:08
VinWista    Karaore, bi tirjanah, i varcenberg i Kutuzov.05:08
VinWista    Arei je, strava zemna, slavom bojnom njih opio05:08
VinWista    i zemlju im za poprite, da se bore, naznaio.05:08
VinWista    Iz grmena velikoga lafu iza trudno nije,05:08
VinWista    u velikim narodima geniju se gnj'jezdo vije:05:08
VinWista    ovde mu je pogotovu materijal k slavnom djelu05:08
inaetyWinVista must be a spammer guys!05:08
VinWista    i trijumfa dini v'jenac, da mu krasi glavu smjelu.05:08
VinWista    Al' heroju topolskome, Karaoru besmrtnome,05:08
VinWista    sve prepone na put bjehu, k cilju dospje velikome:05:08
VinWista    die narod, krsti zemlju, a varvarske lance srui,05:08
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tazgodxanyone know of a decent internet spades game for linux? i tried ggz, and couldn't get it running05:08
sea4everI don't speak German05:08
cloudhow do you install a program from a jar?05:08
flaccidlooks croation or something05:08
FlatfenderFlaccid, I don't see any errors.05:08
flaccidcloud: #java05:08
flaccidFlatfender: not sure the problem then05:09
flaccidif its in your sources.list it should get it05:09
flatulentinaety:  i installed a few screensaver packages with adept.   its in there05:09
FlatfenderOh well, I have no idea either.05:10
sea4everAdept is cool, too bad I have dialup though.05:10
inaetyflatulent: thanks ill try05:10
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flatulentinaety: part of the xscreensaver package.  i think05:12
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flaccidFlatfender: can you search for it in adept_manager?05:14
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FlatfenderFlaccid, its not there.05:15
thomasI thought root account is DISABLED, how did I manage to log in?05:15
inaetyyay flatulent it worked05:15
flaccidthomas: if you logged in by root you set a root password at some stage05:16
FlatfenderI see Gnome compiz manager, but not one for KDE05:16
flaccidyou want to install what exactly?05:16
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NickPrestaFlatfender, a gnome compiz manager?05:17
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FlatfenderYes, a gnome compiz manager, but not one for KDE. Honestly I'm trying to install the 3D cube interface with the wobbly windows05:17
NickPrestaFlatfender, are you using plain Compiz or Compiz Fusion?05:18
thomasflaccid: but in user management I'm only using su not root correct?05:18
flaccidwhy dont you try the beryl or compiz-fusion guides in the wiki?05:18
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FlatfenderI would prefer to use Compiz-Fusion because that's what I am familiar with05:18
flaccidthomas: user management gui should use admin mode which is not su05:18
flaccid!compiz-fusion05:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compiz-fusion - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:18
flaccidok 1 sec05:18
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NickPrestaFlatfender, check out `fusion-icon`. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3163821#post316382105:19
NickPrestaFlatfender, it works great for me. YMMV05:19
thomasthere's no way I can change root password using GUI?05:19
flaccidFlatfender: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion05:20
flaccidthomas: please read what we paste you, have shown you that already05:20
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flaccid!root | thomas05:20
ubotuthomas: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo05:20
thomasi've been reading it flaccid05:20
thomasall 3 links05:20
flaccidthomas: sudo passwd root05:20
flaccidmy bad its not on there05:21
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flaccidprobably gets taken out when someone puts it in05:21
thomashm05:21
flaccidFlatfender: see how dif repos is in this for that package05:22
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mosnowhat is it about kubuntu-desktop's KDE session that doesn't allow either knetworkmanager or nm-applet (the gnome network manager program) to connect to my 802.11g wireless? on Feisty.05:24
flaccidmosno: what card do you have05:24
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mosnoflaccid: the 802.11n card of the Santa Rosa platform05:25
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weberhey05:25
weberwer isn deutsch?05:25
mosnoflaccid: which the underlying NetworkManager dbus service supports fine05:25
flaccidmosno: maybe its not supported.05:25
flaccidoh05:25
mosnoyea it works in Gnome with nm-applet05:25
flaccidwell knetworkmanager has issues05:25
flaccidthis is common05:25
mosnoflaccid: damn. what's the common cause do you know?05:25
madrushcan somebody explain to me how to use the -d option with apt-get to just download the .deb for a given package?05:26
jmichaelxhier wird kein deutsch geredet05:26
mosnobecause i keep finding a reason to switch back to Gnome and it is annoying :\05:26
flaccidsomeone mentioned before they are improving something that should help, but i don't know the common cause. i guess you can find it on launchpad05:26
weberja05:26
Keinnein05:26
weberauch bemerkt05:26
weberXD05:26
jmichaelxprobier mal #ubuntu-de05:26
Keinand you tripped my alert >=(05:26
mosnoflaccid: thanks05:26
flaccidnp05:26
weberne bin schon kubuntu-de05:26
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weberaber da is neimand05:26
sea4evermore spammers? or what?05:26
jmichaelxno05:27
jmichaelxhope not05:27
stdin!de | weber, jmichaelx05:27
ubotuweber, jmichaelx: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:27
flaccidnein weber05:27
weberlol05:27
weberda is nie jemand!!!05:27
weberthere are no peoples!!05:27
flaccidja das ist kaput atm05:27
weber?05:28
weberkaputt?05:28
weberlol05:28
stdinthis channel is English _only_05:28
flaccidsee get in trouble now05:28
jmichaelxweber: unfortunately you'll just have to decipher the english conversations in here05:28
sea4everO.o ...interesting.05:28
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weberok i speak english05:28
sea4everlook at it carefully stdin, you can actually understand it!05:28
sea4ever...05:28
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weberhmmm05:28
flaccidmy german is bad05:28
stdinsea4ever: that's because english and german are somewhat similar05:29
weberxD05:29
webermy english is bad :P05:29
sea4everah, ok, *thinks that he knows 4 languages now*05:29
weber...05:30
FlatfenderOK, I think I got it to install, it allowed me the compiz --replace action this time, but I can't run ccsm which should open the setting manager05:30
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weber...05:31
weberdamn05:31
stdinFlatfender: ccsm is in the compizconfig-settings-manager make sure you have that05:32
weberno good paint programms for linux05:32
sea4everxapint?05:32
stdin!gimp05:32
ubotugimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.05:32
sea4everxpaint*05:32
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weberi dont like gimp05:33
weber-.-05:33
flaccidgimp 2.3 is good05:33
weberno not for me05:33
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weberi would like to have a paint programm like the paint from windows...its fast05:35
FlatfenderStdin, I know its the settings manager, I can't get the settings manager. Thats my problem :/05:35
sea4everpaint IS useful, I only used it for it's cut and paste, to make pictures for MSN messenger focus on the important stuff.05:36
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weberand...what is the best msn messenger?05:36
thomasflaccid: I changed my root password using: sudo passwd root to something else, I tried kdesu konqueror and now 2 passwords work......Also Why can't root view all user files? I  mean I can't possibly remember all folder names by heart to type in address bar05:36
sea4everbest messenger is : either Gaim (Pidgin) OR Kopete (almost the same)05:37
voiD_Can amarok sync music onto an ipod?05:37
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unipsychoanybody on the Openoffice.org channel?05:38
webersea4ever i have this both05:38
weberXD05:38
weberdamn...05:39
weberi downloadet xpaint...05:40
flacciddunno thomas05:40
weberwehen i compile its do always the same...05:40
weberlol05:40
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weberops...05:42
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sea4everer..there are no ops in this channel. :S05:42
fangoriousany eta on kde4 beta2?05:42
weberxD05:42
stdinfangorious: base should be installable now05:43
stdinsea4ever: why?05:43
sea4ever[23:41]  <weber> ops <--05:43
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stdinsea4ever: well, there are ops in here, and I think "ops" meant "oops"05:44
weberyes05:44
weber:D05:44
sea4everO.o O_o05:44
fangoriousstdin: ok, i installed the base package and it's dependencies, the session didn't seem usable though no launchers anywhere, a weird "desktop tool" that only seemed able to launch clocks05:44
stdinfangorious: yeah, buggy isn't it :P if you have kdebase-workspace installed as well then that's the base installed05:45
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stdinthere's no launcher because playground/base wasn't released with beta205:46
fangoriousguess i'll try again at beta305:46
weberoh05:46
weberits now 05:3605:47
stdinyou're clocks off a bit05:47
weber?05:47
sea4everTime zones.05:47
weberi live in germany05:48
stdinby about 10 mins (not time zone)05:48
weber:D05:48
flatulentnot necessarily, some places have different time05:48
stdinit's 4:48 GMT+105:48
webermy other clocks show the same time05:48
weberno05:48
weberits05:48
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webergmt +205:48
weberXD05:48
weber???05:48
weberlol05:48
weberi am stupid05:49
stdinweber: yes, but in gmt+1 it's 4:49 (so you're +01:10)05:49
weber5:4905:49
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stdinthat's better :p05:49
weberxD05:49
weberohh05:49
weberi wrote 5:3605:50
weberxD05:50
weberit was 5:4605:50
weberXD05:50
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weberok i must sleep05:51
weberXD05:51
weberi am 13 :)05:51
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sea4everHAHAHAHA05:51
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sea4everHe knows a lot of English for 13, considering that it is not his native language05:52
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mneptoksea4ever: xD05:53
mneptokgorldammit.05:53
mneptoknow i'm doing it.05:53
mneptokXD05:53
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sea4everxD all gone05:54
stdinexcept that one ^05:54
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mneptokmust ... not ... be ... horse's ... ass ...05:54
mneptokxD05:54
sea4everlol05:55
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stdinheh05:55
sea4everWhat the?05:55
mneptokdon't ask. i'm ... complicated.05:56
stdinsea4ever: mneptok has super cow powers ;)05:56
sea4ever4 minutes until Satuday05:57
mneptok*and* i'm a horse's ass.05:57
sea4everO.o *munches on a burger*05:57
mneptokwhich pretty much covers the whole pasture someone should have put me out to yaers ago.05:57
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sea4everIs there an alarm clock anywhere on Kubuntu?05:58
stdinkalarm05:58
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flatulenttea time05:59
flatulenttea timer05:59
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flaccid!find alarm05:59
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ubotuFound: kalarm, bmp-alarm, xmms-alarm05:59
sea4everI see a KArm <- is that it?05:59
mneptok!info xD05:59
ubotuPackage xd does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:59
mneptok:(05:59
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flaccidyou can do an !info on each of those results which are packages06:00
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stdin!info kalarm06:00
ubotukalarm: KDE alarm message, command and email scheduler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu6 (feisty), package size 644 kB, installed size 1892 kB06:00
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FlatfenderOk, I have all the compiz fusion stuff installed, but the desktop isn't a cube.. is there something I missed?06:00
sea4everO.o06:00
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sea4everah, "at" command works fine, just like in Windows.06:01
stdinwindows stole that06:01
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sea4everI don't really care who owned it first, it's an ALARM, one of the most simple things ever.06:02
sea4evereveryone has one (except me my watch died)06:02
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mneptok!find gnome compiz | Flatfender06:05
ubotuflatfender: Found: abiword-gnome, abiword-plugins-gnome, bluez-gnome, compiz-gnome, dia-gnome (and 600 others)06:05
mneptokgrr06:05
mneptokthere's a GNOME Campiz configurbator app06:05
mneptok*Compiz06:05
stdinshame he's running KDE then06:05
sea4evernothing is better than Kate06:06
FlatfenderI was thinking that about running KDE06:06
mneptokyeah, but i believe it will still toggle some behaviors. but thinking, the desktop cube seems unlikely.06:06
mneptokthe desktop itself is particular.06:07
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mneptoki think it works for Compiz internals.06:07
moparisthebestcan anyone tell me how to disable IPv6?06:07
moparisthebestive tried a few tuts I found on google and rebooted, none of them have worked so far06:08
stdin!ipv606:08
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv406:08
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sea4everMy mouse has moved 101 Meters so far.06:08
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sea4everNow, why in the name of PurpleBeard's brothers does everything begin with 'K' ?? It's annoying06:12
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flaccidkde06:13
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stdinand everything in gnome start with a G, like gedit and gksu and ... gnome :p06:14
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moparisthebestthanks stdin, that did it06:14
sea4everYa, gnomreetris06:14
flaccidsea4ever: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE originally it was for 'Kool'06:14
moparisthebestI had tried the alternative method that proposed a few different ways and none worked06:14
sea4everwho was the fool that changed it FROM Kool?06:14
sea4everkool is MUCH better06:15
flaccidhaha06:15
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hydrogengnome actually stands for something though06:16
hydrogenits a crazy acronym06:16
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sea4everGiant Nose Of Magnificent EWWWW06:18
sea4everheh.06:18
stdinGNU Network Object Model Environment, like that actually means anything06:18
Dr-Willishmm06:18
sea4everthat's nothing...06:18
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flaccidnetwork heh06:19
sea4evertheres an exam I have to take in 2 months, CXC...it means Caribbean Examinations Counsil. Tell me what suggests that it's an exam?06:19
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stdin"Examinations" : seems like it's an exam to me06:20
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Dr-Willisor a colon test for cancer. :)06:20
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Dr-WillisIm always A-, i want to get an A+ someday@!06:21
Dr-Willis:)06:21
flaccidim Z-06:21
sea4everif you read it from the meaning, you would think that it is the NAME of the organization, who set the Exam06:21
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sea4everor : "I have to do a Caribbean Examinations Council"06:22
flaccidofftopic heh06:22
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Dr-Willisas offtopic as me getting mad at Vista for not playing nice with samba... :)06:23
stdinhave a peek in #ubuntu and watch the lines fly by06:23
Dr-WillisI see the shares from linux... then poof they vanish..06:23
flaccidhaha06:24
hydrogen..06:24
hydrogenfeel free to take this to #-offtopic at any point06:24
flaccidim off for a while cia006:25
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sea4everthere is an empty channel there!06:26
stdinsea4ever: he meant #kubuntu-offtopic06:27
sea4everoh.06:27
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Dr-Willis!info samba06:31
ubotusamba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 3262 kB, installed size 7992 kB06:31
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encom#UBUNTU-ES06:35
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Dr-WillisHmm.06:38
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winbondi need to choose buslogic or lsi logic for scsi on a vm, how do i know which one to schoose? by the way , i dont have any scsi devices06:42
stdinchoose either, it doesn't really matter06:42
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titanix88howdy06:46
sea4everHi06:46
luc__o06:46
Dr-WillisMoo06:46
Dr-Willis:)06:47
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titanix88Dr-Willis:)06:47
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Dr-Willis:)06:48
Dr-Willisat least i THINk i got samba working with it better now.06:48
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titanix88i used to play painkiller with wine .9.34 but with 0.9.44 it does nou work.06:49
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surgyyes he will stab you in your back...... :(06:51
surgyj/k06:51
titanix88anyone got my prblm?06:52
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Dr-WillisCheck the wine web site for compatiabilty notes?06:52
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titanix88no06:53
Dr-WillisPainkiller was such a neat game in ways.. and SOOOOOOOOOOO annoying in others. :)06:53
titanix88it should not happen this way :(06:54
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makuseruhi, im having a problem with audacity, when i try to playback somthing it says "Error while opening sound device, Please check the output device and sample rate" what does this mean and how can i fix this06:57
Dr-WillisHmm.06:57
Dr-Willislets me see if i can find a bot factid for ya.06:58
Dr-Willis!alsa06:58
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP306:58
stdinaudacity is probably using OSS, not ALSA06:58
Dr-Willisstdin:  yea. I agree with ya there.06:58
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makuseruno06:58
makuseruits using ALSA for playback06:58
makuseruOSS for recording06:58
makuserui have sound06:59
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makuserujust not when playing back with audacity06:59
makuserui checked what divices i could use for playback but thats all thats in the box06:59
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makuseruany ideas?07:01
stdintry asking in #audacity07:02
makuserutheres just like 3 peolpe in there07:02
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stdinthere's a wiki too http://audacityteam.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page07:03
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sea4everI AM HERE AND I AM WATCHING YOU ALL!!!07:04
stdinerm07:04
stdin!caps07:04
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.07:04
Dr-Willismoo!07:05
sea4everoh, sorry07:07
sea4everAh, I see we have a cow among us.07:07
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Dr-Willis] ''eat more chicken!'07:08
Dr-Willis:)07:08
Dr-Willisbye all.07:09
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sea4everDr-Willis?07:11
sea4everer...07:11
titanix88our favourite moo is goone....:' (07:12
xp_killerstdin: i got problem with the destop slowing down everytime i put something to download.i wonderin if it's not eaten my ram.07:13
titanix88irc is a old protocol.07:13
sea4everThat was strange, "Eat More Chicken" is practically my catch phrase, along with moo! I say them all the time, at the most random of times, he knows me!07:13
sea4everactually...just plain "Chicken" is the catch phrase...07:14
titanix88i know apt-get says a lot moo too!07:14
titanix88xp_killer: use wget.07:16
xp_killer!offtopic | sea4ever07:16
ubotusea4ever: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!07:16
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xp_killertitanix88: wa is wget?a download maneger?07:16
Dr_willisMuu! - frogot this pc was on. :)07:17
Dr_willisNight!07:17
titanix88xp_killer:yes but sli. u will love it. "wget -c url" givf this.07:18
titanix88cli i mean:)07:18
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xp_killertitanix88:  wget -c url" givf this??? type that in a konsole?07:19
titanix88read wget manual. it rocks! got to go.07:19
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titanix88"wget -c link_location"07:20
titanix88by for now!07:21
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bluesurfhello im having trouble getting a ps/2 mouse to work in kubuntu, it used to work in winxp, im kind of a kubuntu newbie.. can anyone help please?07:39
bluesurfthe mouse lights up but the pointer dosent move or click....07:39
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dsmith_anyone awake?07:51
maverickyeah07:51
maverick:D07:51
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dsmith_this place is normally cranking07:53
dsmith_I was beginning to wonder07:53
mavericknot really07:53
dsmith_I guess in a few months it will be so after the release of 7.1007:53
maverickyeah am already drooling for kde407:54
dsmith_i keeping stories about kde407:54
maverickbut i guess kde4 won't be available in 7.1007:54
dsmith_nope07:54
maverickdid u try it?07:54
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dsmith_imo, i do believe that kde is a way beter interface then gnome07:55
dsmith_long ago07:55
dsmith_like an aplha version I believe07:55
maverickand what do u think?07:56
dsmith_*shrug*07:56
dsmith_nothing exciting07:56
maverickreally ?!07:56
maverickwhy is that?07:56
dsmith_well, i did not play with long enough I suppose07:57
mavericki thought it's so totally new things07:57
mavericksleak look07:57
dsmith_i know07:57
dsmith_yea07:57
maverickand i like the new window manager07:57
maverickcoz it's like gnome's and i like gnome's window managr07:57
dsmith_ubuntu with its 6 month release cycles gets me excited07:57
dsmith_:)07:57
maverickyeah07:58
mavericki like kde for productivity07:58
maverickbut i duno somehow gnome's look attracts me :)07:58
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dsmith_i had someone tell me that they would never try Ubuntu, as its from South African07:59
dsmith_what an ignorant person07:59
dsmith_I about died laughing07:59
maverickhaha07:59
winbondi cant wait for kde4, its gonna be da bomb07:59
dsmith_im like so?07:59
dsmith_ubuntu is based on debian distro07:59
dsmith_very stable07:59
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=== maverick can't wait for kde4 to be out
dsmith_told me they will continue to use xp and I asked what hapens after 2014?08:00
dsmith_kde4 does look nice08:00
mavericki've been trying to use linux since grade 1108:01
dsmith_im 3608:01
maverickslackware was my first, can u imagine ???08:01
maverick:D08:01
dsmith_tried redhat back at version 708:01
sea4everMWAM!08:02
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mavericki tried fedora and suse and mandriva08:02
dsmith_then ver. 808:02
dsmith_fedora is nice, but reminds me of RH08:02
dsmith_ick08:02
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mavericki don't like redhat a lot08:04
bluesurfhello im having trouble getting a ps/2 mouse to work in kubuntu, it used to work in winxp, im kind of a kubuntu newbie.. can anyone help please?08:04
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bluesurfthe mouse lights up but the pointer dosent move or click....08:04
maverickam more of a debian and slackware ...going to unix open bsd and free bsd08:04
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maverickbluesurf: write dmesg in konsole08:05
maverickand pastebin your last 10 lines08:05
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bluesurfwell i cant paste bin cause my linux box isnt connected to internet, thats another problem for another time...08:06
bluesurfim on my winxp machine now08:07
purpleposeidonbluesurf: do you have a floppy drive or something like that on both machines?08:07
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bluesurfwell i can use my flash drive hold on might take a few mins...08:08
intelikeyhave an error   fusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: No such file or directory08:08
KDEfanboydsmith_: what about kde4 are you looking forward to08:08
intelikeycan someone that has that device please "ls -l /dev/fuse"  and show me the output08:08
intelikey?08:08
stdinintelikey: crw-rw---- 1 root fuse 10, 229 2007-09-03 21:17 /dev/fuse08:09
intelikeyty08:09
KDEfanboyintelikey: modprobe fuse?08:09
intelikeyi have to make the device node08:09
KDEfanboyoic, mknod08:10
KDEfanboywell im a bit bummed that kde4 beta2 packages didnt work08:10
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mavericki did wht's written in kubuntu.org to install kde4 but didn't work08:11
dsmith_KDEfanboy: I did not run the aplha long enough to make a conclusion08:11
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dsmith_but I would expect a way imporved GUI08:12
dsmith_*improved08:12
KDEfanboydsmith_: applications or desktop gui?08:12
KDEfanboyya.. plasmoids are broken08:12
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dsmith_kde08:12
KDEfanboyit's not finding the plasmoid services..looks like it's packaged incorrectly08:13
dsmith_KDEfanboy: I think the application base is fine, the gui could always be improved from what it is now. So LONG as they dont wreck the interface with bloat08:13
stdinmaverick: helps is you way what didn't work...08:13
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dsmith_purpl08:13
dsmith_purpleposeidon: lol08:13
KDEfanboydsmith_: the desktop gui looks a lot different ..hm like what is a good example08:13
purpleposeidonthat'd be way more useful the poly-desktopia08:14
dsmith_KDEfanboy: I am not sure, how does one innovate whats great already?08:14
maverickstdin:firsty "kdebase-worspace" is broken, and when i try alpha1 it installs "kde4base-dev" and everything is fine and i can't get to add kde4 option in the session type menu08:14
KDEfanboydunno..thinks can always be better08:15
KDEfanboybut im wondering what attracts people most to kde408:15
dsmith_beryl/compiz are nice 8buggy8 products :)08:15
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stdinmaverick: it's been fixed, how long ago did you try08:15
dsmith_kde is a superior interface then gnome08:15
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maverickstdin: then it must have been fixed right now08:16
KDEfanboydsmith_: but why08:16
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maverickcoz i tried 1 hour ago08:16
maverickand now it works :D08:16
KDEfanboymaverick: you trying kde4 beta2?08:16
maverickKDEfanboy: yeah08:16
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KDEfanboyit's broken08:16
stdinmaverick: you probably just had to wait for your mirror to update08:16
dsmith_KDEfanboy: good question, the way things are layed out in kde vs gnome in general08:16
maverickKDEfanboy: update your mirrors08:16
maverickKDEfanboy: it works08:17
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KDEfanboydsmith_: hm give a few examples08:17
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winbondany good guides on how to make kde look bad ass?08:18
OOXML_suxKDEfanboy: the one I love is having the ability to open a terminal session in the folder you are browsing08:18
maverickwhen adobe apps and matlab and agilnet apps and all the simulation apps integrate in linux , i swear to god no windows at all08:18
OOXML_suxwinbond: define bad ass08:18
KDEfanboymaverick: hm i dont see any updates. i have 3.93.0-0ubuntu2~feisty3 . you on gutsy?08:18
maverickKDEfanboy: no, i just did try to install "kdebase-workspace" now and it worked...08:19
KDEfanboyof kdebase-workspace08:19
hangthedj_serverwinbond: check out www.kde-look.org08:19
KDEfanboymaverick: you have plasmoids working?08:19
maverickam still installing it08:19
KDEfanboyOOXML_sux: ok that's with dolphin i assume. what else08:19
stdinKDEfanboy: 3.93.0-0ubuntu2~feisty3 is out, mirrors are probably still updating (some take ages)08:19
bluesurfmaverick, http://pastebin.com/m4b9f42e408:19
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maverickKDEfanboy: you can remove the mirrors from your sources list if u can't wait08:20
maverick:P08:20
KDEfanboymaverick: oh. once it installs, im thinking plasmoids wont work08:20
KDEfanboystdin: thats what i have08:20
stdinKDEfanboy: if you mean the lack of a launcher, that's nothing to do with kubuntu and we can't fix that08:20
maverickKDEfanboy: and why is that?08:20
maverickbluesurf: readin...08:20
bluesurfmaverick, can u see my pastebin?08:21
maverickyeah08:22
bluesurfok08:22
KDEfanboystdin: probably, whatever is saying object cant be created plasmoids. getting plasma(16858)/kio (KTrader) KServiceTypeTrader::defaultOffers: query for serviceType  "Plasma/Applet"  : returning  0  offers08:22
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OOXML_suxkde08:22
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OOXML_suxKDEfanboy: Ummm... in comparing gnome vs kde, i find the user interface to be friendlier08:23
stdinKDEfanboy: yep, that's not our fault :P that's because the plasmoids that make the launcher aren't in the beta2 release08:23
intelikeyi don't think i like fusermount.08:23
SilentDishello08:23
OOXML_suxi dont have the specifics off the top of my head08:23
maverickbluesurf: did you dmesg right after you plugged your mouse ?08:23
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maverickmaverick: or you mouse has been plugged since forever ?08:23
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hangthedj_serverintelikey: what fs are you trying to mount?08:24
OOXML_suxsome of the ppl that I had do comparisons both on gnome and kde that were new, liked kde better08:24
maverickbluesurf: i wan t you to unplug your mouse and then plug it again and then dmesg...just to see the effect of plugginf your mouse08:24
holycowall the peple i've ever tested on gnome versus kde liked gnome better08:24
bluesurfmaverick, the mouse i currently have plugged in is a working usb mouse not the problamatic mouse08:24
maverickbluesurf: also am reading about a bug with ps2 mouse on sis 630 chipsets which you appear to have....08:25
holycowmostly because it had fewer options and less choices08:25
holycowhowever that really doesn't answer any useability questions08:25
holycowit only answers useability questions for one type of user profile08:25
SilentDisi have a bit of an odd problem.  I'm trying to get a Motorazr V3a cellphone recognized in Kubuntu 7.04 as a modem.  OS sees the device connected, but doesn't assign it a port in /dev.  from my googling... it appears USB ACM isn't enabled on my kernel, is this the case for the 2.6.20-16-generic kernel?08:25
mintsoupmy main problem with kde was actually that windows were displayed in two rows on the taskbar instead of one08:25
maverickbluesnarf: yeah but i want you to plug in the ps2 mouse and then dmesg (dmesg gives me how the system responded to your ps2 mouse and this helps alot )08:25
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hangthedj_servermintsoup: you can change that.08:26
mintsoupwell i've gotten used to it now ;) but how?08:26
bluesurfmaverick, ok i will do this, no problem , i will do this give me a minute...08:26
KDEfanboystdin: ;) ah ok well that's good that the reason is know..odd that the release would miss those components. hm wonder how much effort it would be to get those compiled and installed..i may try it..08:26
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maverickbluesurf: wait08:27
hangthedj_servermintsoup: right click on the taskbar and configure panel, then choose size08:27
stdinKDEfanboy: that aren't in any package, it's in the svn trunk/playground/base (and they don't want to compile for me)08:27
KDEfanboyOOXML_sux: ok so youre looking at the interface generally.. from usability08:27
maverickbluesurf: apparently it's a bug and has been fixed by patching the lates kernel08:27
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maverickbluesurf: here's the link to the bu report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/10822108:27
maverickbluesurf: and here's the link to the patched kernel http://people.ubuntu.com/~pkl/ps208:28
mintsoupoh yeah i also forgot that i don't like how the window titles fade out to the right instead of just cutting off on the taskbar.. any way to change that?08:28
KDEfanboystdin: ah good. was it code errors that prevent compiling for you?08:28
SilentDisa quick look through /boot/config-2.6.20-16-generic shows "CONFIG_USB_ACM=m", what does the 'm' stand for in a kernel config?08:28
stdinKDEfanboy: yeah08:28
hangthedj_servermintsoup: sorry that never bugged me so i'm not sure ;)08:28
stdinSilentDis: module08:28
SilentDisstdin: so i should be able to modprobe it, right?08:29
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stdinSilentDis: yep08:29
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SilentDisstdin: any idea what the module name is for usb_acm?08:30
hangthedj_serveri guess mintsoup was tired of listening to me, left awfull quick.08:30
hangthedj_server:(08:30
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KDEfanboyok... playground/base sounds like it depends on kde4 libs..and coding errors..i sure dont feel like giving it a shot then..ah well08:30
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KDEfanboyi think ill go play with dolphin tho ;)08:31
stdinSilentDis: cdc-acm I think08:31
hangthedj_serveri just uninstalled dolphin08:31
stdindolphin will probably be default in gutsy08:31
maverickbluesurf: the atched kernel link is broken...am searching for another place............08:31
KDEfanboyhangthedj_server: what did you think of it08:31
hangthedj_serverit was getting inbetween me and konq08:31
KDEfanboylol08:32
hangthedj_serverit was ok08:32
KDEfanboyi love konq.. hope it replaces it and makes default tho08:32
hangthedj_serverbut even if i changed the default action to open folders to konq, dolphin still opened the folder.08:32
maverickstdin: now that i finished installing kdebase-workspace...wht;s next08:32
hangthedj_serverand that made me mad.08:32
se7en^Of^9dolphin is cool08:32
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mavericki shoul creat a new kde4desktop and change the enteries, i did that ad nothing happened....:S08:32
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stdinmaverick: nothing, just follow the rest of the instructions on the announcement08:32
maverickse7en^Of^9: indeed very cool08:33
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maverickmaverick: it's frustarting the the session doesn;t appear in the session menu thought i literatly follow the instructions08:33
SilentDisstdin: aargh, still not getting a port, any suggestions?08:33
ch40swhats the command to exit xserver so i can install my nvidia drives08:33
_2stdin just how convoluted is this FUSE (file system in user space) anyway ?    looks like rootkit gone soure, then converted into an app... ?08:33
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hangthedj_serveranybody know if dscl has been ported to linux?08:34
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stdin_2: it's not that bad :p08:34
_2you sure ???    :)08:34
stdinSilentDis: no, never tried it08:35
ch40swhats the command to exit xserver so i can install my nvidia drives08:35
ch40s?08:35
maverickstdin : "Run some programmes. Plasma seems to work and will run over kdesktop happily. Good luck." <--- run them where when i log on kde4 ???08:35
_2sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop08:35
_2ch40s ^08:35
ch40sty _208:35
stdin_2: it can be dangerous if the right (wrong) filesystem is created I guess..08:36
maverickstdin: and i can't find "/usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop"08:36
stdinmaverick: _read_ it :)08:36
SilentDisstdin: well, at least i know that i won't have to kernel recompile, thank you for that at least :)08:36
maverickstdin: now it's there, sorry for the nagging08:36
_2stdin i can mount the entire remote system   there is no restrictions...08:37
maverickbrb08:37
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stdin_2: you can scp the entire remote system, what's the difference?08:37
stdin_2: and with ssh you can run commands...08:38
bluesurfmaverick, http://pastebin.com/m430175ad08:38
_2stdin yeah but rm -r /fuse/mountpoint/*08:38
_2heh08:38
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stdin_2: that would only work if the user you logged in as has permission to do that08:39
maverickstdin: when i logon kde4..gives black screen and then brings me back to the login screen, any ideas??08:39
KDEfanboycan kwin's composite manager be used in kde beta2? looking how to turn it on..thats another big thing im waiting for08:39
stdin_2: just like ssh/scp08:39
bluesurfmaverick, http://pastebin.com/m430175ad08:39
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stdin_2: the permissions you see in the mount are just "mapped", you are still just logged in as the user over ssh08:41
KDEfanboyfound the aquamarine settings but dont see how to turn it on..ah well heh08:42
_2ah it retains the permissions on the host...    wheeew    i was beginning to wonder08:42
maverickbluesurf: am reading about a bug with ps2 mouse on sis 630 chipsets which you appear to have....08:43
_2stdin right.   i was testing /hacking with it    the perms are enforced from the remote end...   that's good.08:43
maverickbluesurf: apparently it's a bug and has been fixed by patching the lates kernel08:43
maverickbluesurf: here's the link to the bu report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/10822108:43
stdin_2: yeah, I wouldn't use it if it was that dangerous, I don't trust myself enough :p08:44
maverickbluesurf: read the posts you will find solutions there08:44
bluesurfmaverick, thank you very much!!!08:44
bluesurfyouve been a big help!08:44
maverickbluesurf: you're welcome08:45
_2yeah    even as it is it's still just a little  permiscuous    imo   but i haven't explored it well yet08:45
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hangthedj_serverls08:47
maverickstdin: do u have the mid, will and power to help with kde4 beta 2 small problem in installation ??08:47
hangthedj_serveroops08:47
_2stdin as to the ssh argument.   i agree,   but!  one doesn't have to have any ssh rights to use an nfs mount   thus nfs and sshfs are in totally different catagories in that reguard.    i can see where nfs could be much more secure.08:47
_2that ^ from the server perspective.  not the client.08:48
stdin_2: yes, it's not a replacement by any means. but if you just want a nice quick way to work with files on a remote system (without having to "login"), it's nice08:48
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KDEfanboymaverick: did you edit the startkde file?08:49
_2i can see a good client argument in the oppisite dirrection too08:49
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stdinmaverick: ^ what KDEfanboy said :p08:49
_2stdin errr you still have to "log in"   via ssh  when mounting the sshfs.    even if you use sshkeys.08:50
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stdin_2: that's why I put quotes around it :p08:50
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maverickstdin: you keep on impressing  me  :D08:50
_2stdin did you see my temp converter ?08:51
stdin_2: yeah08:52
_2http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3942708:52
_2that ?08:52
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_2heh   way less than i though it would take.     but it does round to the intiger08:53
stdin_2: ahh, the "POSIX" one :p08:53
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_2yes08:54
stdin_2: ohh, by the way, I think I figured out how to get a C++ app to figure out it's basename, so I'll have a go at that later :p08:55
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maverickKDEfanboy: everything in there went messy08:56
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maverickKDEfanboy: object not found messages everywhere, and probably kicker didn;t start08:57
_2stdin cool :)     i have seen binaries that do use symlinks so i know it can be done.08:57
KDEfanboywelcome to beta2!08:57
_2bash / sh  for example08:57
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stdin_2: yeah, I just didn't know how, but I think I have it now. though I've had to put down my book as i'm skipping a few chapters there :p08:58
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antoshaHow do i switch between languages at the login promt. (I use two input laguages english and russian.)09:03
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holycowallright09:04
holycowso someone explain to me why you cant just kill .kde from ~/ and restart x again?09:04
maverickKDEfanboy: but this also happened in beta109:04
KDEfanboymaverick: oh?09:05
maverickKDEfanboy: nothing works...just the desktop and the clock09:05
KDEfanboymaverick: maybe itll be there ni 309:05
KDEfanboymaverick: howd ya get a clock?!09:05
stdinmaverick: kicker isn't in beta309:05
stdinmaverick: beta2 rather09:05
antoshaNow to login i use the console. :( Once i login i startx and in kde i can switch languages esily. So how can i switch them at the login screen?09:06
maverickKDEfanboy: just got the mouse to the top up left corner where the menu pops and you double click on the clock word09:06
KDEfanboyoh wow..1sec09:06
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antoshaThe hot keays used once i login do not work while i am logging in.09:07
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KDEfanboymaverick: coo09:07
KDEfanboyl09:07
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maverickKDEfanboy: does kde4 work fine on ur machine09:08
maverick?09:08
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antoshaHow do i switch between languages at the login screen? (I use two input laguages english and russian.)09:09
KDEfanboymaverick: no i told ya plasmoids arent working09:09
maverickKDEfanboy: aside from plasmoids09:09
maverickKDEfanboy: or is kde4 just a plasmoid or what ?:D09:09
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KDEfanboymaverick: well thats one thing i was looking forward to. without a working desktop it's hard to see what there is to it. try dolphin09:10
garfield_!wget09:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wget - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:10
maverickKDEfanboy: can i install dolphi on fesity...i can;t even begin to tell how much i hate konq now   :S09:11
KDEfanboypress alt f209:11
KDEfanboytype dolphin09:11
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antoshaThe hot keys used once i login do not work while i am logging in.09:14
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kaminix|benkyouI want to make a script that autoumounts a directory and mounts an iso-file specified by the user. Can I do this with something like sudo umount /media/whatever && sudo mount -t iso 9660 <argument set for the script> /media/whatever, where <argument set for the script> is for example ARG in "scriptname ARG"?09:16
kaminix|benkyouOh, and the -o loop09:16
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zipperIn X, the resolution is fine (1280x1024) but when i have to log in using KDM, it's not. It seems like it's zoomed in, and when i move my curser to the sides the image "scrolls". Think it's called "Virtual something" in xorg.conf? Anyway, anyone know how to fix this?09:22
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antoshaHow do i switch between languages at the login screen? (I use two input laguages english and russian.)09:29
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xp_killerantosha: dont know about changin that at the login but to change language go in system settings09:32
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antoshaYe, i can switch languages once i login esialy. But that is once i login. At the login screen the same hotkeys used to switch the input language do not work.09:36
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combiniohow to check out which version of FGLRX i have currently?09:37
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combiniobtw. i've heard that there is commin' out fglrx 8.4 soon which works with AIGLX... is that true? and if yes - when it's gonna happen ? :] 09:39
titanix88combinio just did!09:39
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combiniotitanix88: what just did ? ;>09:40
combiniois this currently available ? :)09:40
intelikeywhat's the conversion                             Kelvin temperature conversion formulas09:40
intelikey                     To find          From                 Formula09:40
intelikey                 Celsius         kelvin          DEGC = K  - 273.1509:40
intelikey                 kelvin          Celsius         K = DEGC + 273.1509:40
intelikey                 Rankine         kelvin          DEGR = K  * 1.809:40
intelikey                 kelvin          Rankine         K = DEGR - 1.809:40
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intelikey                 Fahrenheit      kelvin          DEGF = (K  * 1.8)  - 459.6709:40
titanix88yes.heard it is tons faster.09:41
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intelikeywooops.09:41
combiniook, i figured out that i have FGLRX 8.34.8... can't wait for 8.4 :D:D09:41
combinio!pastebin | intelikey09:41
ubotuintelikey: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:41
intelikeywhat's the conversion   Kelvin to Celsius ?09:42
combiniotitanix88: oh.. that way... sure AIGLX can't be compare to this shit called XGL... but FGLRX doesn't work with AIGLX unforunately :/09:42
combinioYET09:42
llutzintelikey: you pasted it above: Celsius         kelvin          DEGC = K  - 273.1509:42
combiniobut since version 8.4 it's gonna be changed <LOL>09:42
intelikeyyeah  that's it...  ty09:42
llutzintelikey: 0C =-273.15K09:42
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combinio!ATI09:43
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:43
stdinagh, I'm beginning to dislike cpp09:44
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titanix88what's the best way to start linux development?scripting?09:46
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llutztitanix88: read advanced bash scripting guide and practise, practise, practise...09:47
stdinrequirements for linux development: 1) give up all social life, 2) *read* 3) practice09:47
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llutzwtf is "social life"? ;)09:49
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stdinsomething others have :)09:49
llutzmust be newmodern thing, never heard about09:50
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intelikeyso would     (5/9F)  310 = K    be an acurate conversion less the decimal ?09:50
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intelikeythat                +09:51
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robin_hi all09:51
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titanix88abs guide drove me nuts. i use mini howto abt bash.09:52
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llutzintelikey: TK = (TF + 459.67)  1.809:53
llutzintelikey: see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit09:54
intelikey?09:55
winbondcombinio, 8.4 is already released09:55
mauri Hi all, i'm not be able to use my webcam..someone can help me?09:55
combiniowinbond: yeap... downloaded09:55
combiniowinbond: but can u tell me something... ummm... if i have already installed 8.34 how can i install those 8.4 ?? :] 09:56
titanix88intellikey programming?09:56
stdin!webcam | mauri09:56
ubotumauri: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras09:56
winbondcombinio, its just not the good one yet09:56
stdintitanix88: scripting09:56
combiniowhat u mean ?09:56
intelikeyllutz   (K  * 1.8)  - 459.67 = F        but posix doesn't do floating point math,   so i have to use intagers09:57
combinioi have fglrx 8.34 and downloaded from ati site version 8.409:57
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combiniowinbond: it is ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run09:57
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mauriubotu hi my webcam is not in the list, what can I do09:57
stdinintelikey: round it "(K * 2) - 460 = F"09:57
winbondcombinio, how did u install 8.3?09:58
llutzintelikey: (TK  9/5)  456009:58
combiniowinbond: do u think it might doesn't work ?09:58
combiniowinbond: from how-to09:58
llutz456 sry09:58
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winbondcombinio, did u compile?09:58
intelikeystdin  1.8 * X   not close to  2 * X09:58
llutzi'm messing up all now, again:09:58
llutzintelikey: (TK  9/5)  46009:58
combiniowinbond: think yes09:59
stdinintelikey: yeah, but that's the closest you'll get with $(())09:59
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intelikeyand what is A*  ?09:59
combinioi've been putting some commands into the console09:59
winbondcombinio, there should be a uninstall command,09:59
titanix88intellykey:use bc.09:59
intelikeystdin no it's not.09:59
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winbondcombinio, like when u installed it, same command except uninstall09:59
kkathman!nvidia10:00
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:00
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stdinmauri: try opening a konsole window and type "sudo modprobe gspca" see if that works10:00
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intelikeytitanix88 bc might not be installed.10:00
combiniowinbond: ok, try that10:00
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intelikeytitanix88 if i was going to count on external apps i'd use  units  anyway10:00
intelikeytoo late.10:00
kkathmanwhy do you get "ubuntu" directions for installing nvidia in a kubuntu channel?10:01
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intelikeykkathman cause it's all one "ubotu"10:01
winbondcombinio, but u need to have all the compiled stuff , if u deleted it wont work10:01
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kkathmanahh well ok but doesnt help us :(10:01
intelikeykkathman cause it's also all one "wiki"10:01
stdinkkathman: because the link has kubuntu instructions too, if you read it10:01
kkathmanno that one doesnt I dont believe10:02
combiniowinbond: look - i've installed it from here :: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI :: under KUBUNTU!10:02
kkathmanits all off the gnome menus10:02
mauriubotu lsmod find gspca module but /dev/video is not created10:02
combinioi mean under EDGY version (but i have kub-7.04)10:02
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stdinkkathman: if you read it you'll see the "Note: If you're running Kubuntu ....." bit10:02
kkathmanproblem is my kubuntu isnt using the proprietary drive I actually installed using ubuntu10:03
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xp_killerdo it have any good download manager for linux?10:04
winbondcombinio, did u use this?10:04
winbondcombinio, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager10:04
combiniowinbond: no that10:04
mauriubotu are you still there10:04
combiniothis little down10:05
winbondxp_killer, which browser?10:05
xp_killerkkathman: did u install kubun befor u put in your ati?10:05
combinioi've installed it for EDGY version10:05
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combiniowinbond: 'sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control'10:05
combinioi na koncu 'sudo depmod -a'10:05
kkathmanxp_killer:  I dont run ATI10:05
kkathmannote above10:06
combiniowinbond: i mean at the end i wrote 'sudo depmod -a'10:06
combiniowas that good move ?10:06
kkathmanwhat I am experiencing is that in kubuntu - when I look at the xorg.conf - it clearly shows "nvidia" but when I go to the system settings, monitor it shows "nv"10:06
winbondif u havent reconfigured the xorg.conf, ure are probably not using this driver10:06
zipperIn X, the resolution is fine (1280x1024) but when i have to log in using KDM, it's not. It seems like it's zoomed in, and when i move my curser to the sides the image "scrolls". Think it's called "Virtual something" in xorg.conf? Anyway, anyone know how to fix this?10:06
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xp_killerkkathman: did u install kubun befor u put in your nvidea?10:07
kkathmanof course10:08
winbondcombinio, if u havent reconfigured the xorg.conf, ure are probably not using this driver10:08
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LiquidValiumheh,  I didnt realize that the ubuntu irc server was also freenode10:08
kkathmanoh wait  no - it was in the box when I installed kubuntu/ubuntu10:08
LiquidValiumI didnt understand how i had another connection to the server,  freaked me out until I realized10:08
combinioi changed xorg - Composite "Disable" - that's all10:08
kkathmanits works perfectly on my dual boot (same box) under openSUSE10:08
intelikeywhat is 44F in kelvin   ?10:09
kkathmanso its something strange in kubuntu ( I think it even works in ubuntu!)10:09
intelikeylets check my script...10:09
intelikeyi came up with 334K    is that correct ?10:09
mauri Hi all, i'm not be able to use my webcam..someone can help me?10:09
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xp_killerkkathman: thats the reson why u got th wrong one it happen to me it choose the wrong driver when i put in my ati after installment10:10
combiniowinbond: can i just install 'ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run' with sh command ?10:10
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kkathmanxp_killer:  but it was correct when I installed under ubuntu10:10
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intelikeyLiquidValium heh  this is freenode.net   not ubuntu.*10:10
winbondcombinio, i dont know, probably not, u might need to compile , depends on ur kernel version10:10
llutzintelikey: 28010:10
kkathmanxp_killer:  yer saying you have to put the video card in AFTER you install ??10:10
kkathmanthats ludicrous10:11
combiniowinbond: i have 2.6.20-16-generic version of Kernel10:11
devianceHow can I force 2 programs to open on startup10:11
hangthedj_server~/.kde/Autostart10:11
devianceI run that in Konsole?10:11
devianceDo I put the program name after it?10:12
hangthedj_serverlink the files you want to start to that directory10:12
winbondcombinio, try to find some directions on atis website10:12
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xp_killerkkathman: i put in my ati befor i install kubuntu.but u can normaly change it if u know which is best for your nvidea10:12
hangthedj_server!ln10:12
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal10:12
combiniowinbond: ok, try that10:12
rothchildmorning, does anyone have a usb hard drive working properly and being automounted in either feisty or gutsy?10:13
winbondcombinio, what does it say by the "driver"  in the device section of the video card, in the xorg.conf file?10:13
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combiniowinbond: it says Driver "fglrx"10:14
xp_killer!kget10:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kget - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:14
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winbondcombinio, well, i guess it installed ok , what problems do u have with that driver?10:15
winbondxp_killer, downthemall for firefox is the best10:16
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combiniowinbond: i just want to upgrade them to v4.810:16
combiniowinbond: that's all10:16
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combinio** sry - i men v4.810:17
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mauri Hi all, i'm not be able to use my webcam..someone can help me?10:17
combinio** v8.4 !!10:17
winbondcombinio, there is no easy way to do it, unless the new driver is in the repos already10:17
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combiniobut if in repos there is only v8.34 - so just have a look such old version :|10:17
xp_killerkkathman: winbond is it only for fox?10:18
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combiniowhen they're gonna add some newer version of these ATI drivers ?10:18
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mauri Hi all, i'm not be able to use my webcam..someone can help me?10:19
winbondxp_killer, i think so, i used kget long time ago, but the downthemall was much better, even back then ,10:19
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combinio!help10:20
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots10:20
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xp_killerwinbond: and wget?10:20
winbondxp_killer, never used that10:20
hangthedj_serveri love wget10:21
hangthedj_serveran hour of fun can be had with wget --server-response10:23
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xp_killerstdin: when i download a file it slows down the pc,(its like it have gas)what can i do to prevent this?just seen this it look like it eaten up ram10:23
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mauri Hi all, i'm not be able to use my webcam..someone can help me?10:24
winbondcombinio, i just checked repos, the 8.4 is not there,  so u have to manually install it10:24
combiniowinbond: crap! :/ i'm affraid to do install it manually10:24
combinioi think it can't not work10:24
combiniobut check it out10:24
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hangthedj_servermauri: sorry, i don't know anything about webcams, try searching on hangthedj/factoids.cgi10:25
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combiniowinbond: so first remove all fglrx drivers with 'remove' command and restore xorg.xonf file ?10:25
combiniowinbond: and then install it ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run ?10:25
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winbondcombinio, first run the sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the open source ati drive, then uninstall fglrx, then install the new driver, its a little more complicated than that10:27
hangthedj_server!webcam | mauri10:27
ubotumauri: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras10:27
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mauriubotu: my cam is not in the list..what can i do10:27
hangthedj_servermauri: not sure, find the closest one to your model10:28
winbondxp_killer, how does it slow down ur pc?10:28
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hangthedj_servermauri: are you using kopete, cause kopete is pretty good with webcams.10:29
mauriubotu: ID 0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp10:29
maurihangthedj_server: hi, the problem is that /dev(video device is not created10:29
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hangthedj_servermauri: try modprobe video10:30
hangthedj_serveror mknod /dev/video10:30
hangthedj_server?10:30
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hangthedj_serveri really don't know much about webcams.  i have one thats not hooked up, but i know it works with kopete10:31
xp_killerwinbond: right now im downloadin a anime.when i move the mouse it got like a freez for 0.65second it doesnt run smooth same for video and other stuff10:31
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maurihangthedj_server: video and gspca module are already loaded10:31
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winbondxp_killer, how much ram do u have?10:32
combiniowinbond: sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg - doesn't work10:32
combiniothere some conflict between -e (--control) and -r (--remove)10:33
combinioin dpkg10:33
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combiniowinbond: u know - i guess i'm not gonna do that10:33
xp_killerwinbond: 1gig but in 2,512 each.i want to know if it realy using the 2 because i just buy one 4days ago10:33
combinioit's just little too complicated10:33
combiniowinbond: but thanks for info anyway :)10:33
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winbondcombinio, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:34
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combiniowinbond: it works :)10:34
combinioand by default there is VESA driver selected10:34
combiniowhich should i select ?10:34
winbondcombinio, its not that difficoult, but ure got to be prepared that u can mess it up and gonna have to reinstall the system10:34
combinioI'M READY ;P10:35
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zipperIn X, the resolution is fine (1280x1024) but when i have to log in using KDM, it's not. It seems like it's zoomed in, and when i move my curser to the sides the image "scrolls". Think it's called "Virtual something" in xorg.conf? Anyway, anyone know how to fix this?10:35
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winbondxp_killer, if u run the top command in the terminal , u can see how much ram u have and how much its using10:36
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maurihangthedj_server: video and gspca module are already loaded10:36
combiniowinbond: umm... which driver is open ? there is many of drivers :/10:37
winbondcombinio, ati10:37
combiniowinbond: k10:37
combiniowinbond: next step: Identifier for your video card - so call it as 'Generic Video Card' ?10:37
combinioby default ?10:37
rothchildhi can anyone confirm that they have a usb hard drive (proper spinning one not a thumb drive) working under either feisty or gutsy (ie being automounted on connection)? I am gathering data for a bug report because it seems to be seriously broken in both versions10:38
winbondcombinio, yup , doesnt matter what u call it10:38
combiniook10:38
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xp_killerwinbond: wat top command?  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg this one?10:38
winbondxp_killer, top10:38
combiniowinbond: if i make a back-up of xorg.conf file it is gonna work when i restore it ? ;>10:39
hangthedj_servermauri: i'm sorry i don't really know anything about webcams.  ubuntuforums.org is a good place to start searching.  and if you find nothing then post a new thread.10:39
combiniou know - some kind of secure :)10:39
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winbondcombinio, it makes a backup automatically10:40
maurihangthedj_server: ok i will try even if it will be hard10:40
combiniothanks the Lord ;P so reinstall system won't be necessary :)10:40
jussi01can someone remind me where the setting for saving your start up programs is?10:41
winbondcombinio, if u restore it its not gonna work if the selected driver is fglrs and u have uninstalled the fglrx10:41
xp_killerwinbond: ok witch line is for the ddr?10:41
combiniowinbond: oupssss.... [;10:41
combiniook... i don't care :)10:41
jussi01ie. how do I save a seesion?10:41
combinioi just want to make i working :)10:41
winbondxp_killer, first one after mem:10:42
winbondxp_killer, to the right10:42
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combiniowinbond: Video card's bus identifier - PCI:1:0:0 so i guess that i should leave it by default ? ;>10:43
winbondcombinio, yeah,10:43
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combiniowinbond: "Amount of memory (kB) to be used by the video card" - there is an empty space... what value should be written there ? ;>10:44
winbondcombinio, leave empty10:44
xp_killer1022000 in used is that good?10:45
combiniowinbond: ok... then it asks me 'bout use framebuffer ? YES or NO ... by default it is selected NO10:45
winbondcombinio, no10:45
combiniowinbond: Autodetect keyboard layout? [;10:45
combinioYES / NO10:45
winbondxp_killer, yeah, means u have 1 gig of ram10:45
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winbondcombinio, no, or yes, i dont think it matter10:46
combiniowinbond: ok... by default there is NO so i choose NO ;P10:47
combiniowinbond: going for have a breakfast... brb10:47
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blekosi get a message that another process is using the package manager but cannot find it10:48
xp_killerwinbond: the download finish but the pc still stickin10:48
blekosI know there is a command that fixes the "adept-manager"  anyone pls?10:49
Jucato!adeptfix | blekos10:49
ubotublekos: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 10:49
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intelikeyok i finally got it.    this is the formula for  F to K                    $(( $(( 5 * F / 9)) + 256 )) = K10:49
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xp_killerO_O10:49
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blekosthat did the trick thnx10:50
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intelikeyi couldn't find it written anywhere       so i wrote it...10:50
chemicalvampso i got my kubuntu install working off of a usb key, is there an easy way to set up other computers to boot off of it?10:50
winbondxp_killer, look at top and see whats using the most cpu or ram when u get the slowdowns10:50
winbondxp_killer, or u can run the system guard, and do same thing there10:51
combiniowinbond: XKB rule set to use - there is written 'xorg'10:51
llutzintelikey: calculate -459 F  to K, should be 010:51
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intelikeyllutz calculate 32F to K should be 273   and  212F should be 373K10:52
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winbondcombinio, what?\10:53
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combiniook, chose xorg10:53
combinioidunno - it asked me for that :] 10:53
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combinioby default i chose 'xorg'10:53
combiniowhtaver it was ;P10:53
xp_killerwinbond: all i see is klash about 14 then xorg,konversation etc....10:53
intelikeyllutz and by that formula  -459 comes out 1    that's because there is no floating point10:53
combiniowinbond: it is still about keyboard10:54
intelikeyllutz so yes it works.10:54
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llutzintelikey: yes, should be -459,67 (float)10:54
llutzintelikey: fine, but hopefully we will see the day when nobody uses Fahrenheit anymore :)10:54
edulixhi! I entered in kcontrol and created a new theme out of my current one.. and guess what? I clicked in "apply" and now my toolbars don't show any icon!10:55
edulixit's really weird and I don't know how to solve it10:55
intelikeyllutz if you don't like it.  don't use it.      but don't ask me to "not use it"10:55
edulix(without ditching my .kde)10:55
combiniowinbond: how can i examine whoch port is used by mouse ?10:55
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maverick_!fahrenheit10:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fahrenheit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:55
winbondcombinio, u have usb mouse?10:56
combiniowinbond: no ps210:56
winbondcombinio, just use ps2 explorer10:56
llutzintelikey: fahrenheit wasn't designed for scientific use10:56
intelikeyllutz Fahrenheit is mean climit based.  not water based.   0F is roughly as cold as it gets for a great number of locations   and 100F is roughly as hot as it gets...10:57
winbondcombinio, what does it say?10:57
intelikeyllutz it's the "human" theme of temprature scales10:57
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llutzintelikey: i know where it comes from.10:57
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intelikeyand if i might add,   a good one.10:58
combiniowinbond: it says: /dev/input/mice OR /dev/psaux OR /dev/ttyS0 OR /dev/tts0 OR /dev/gpmdata10:58
edulixsee http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1261/siniconosgh6.png10:59
edulixno icons :(10:59
winbondcombinio, mice10:59
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combiniowinbond: ok11:00
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llutzintelikey: i work with these scales every day (meteorological service) and i prefer handy units like Celsius/Kelvin. but that's _my_ preference11:00
combiniowinbond: mouse control :: ImPS/2 or ExplorerPS/211:00
winbondcombinio, explorer11:01
combiniowinbond: kk11:01
combiniowinbond: Emulate 3 button mouse? :: YES / no11:01
combiniowinbond: i have 3-button mouse :)11:02
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chemicalvampIn grub if a person wanted to set up an external CD drive would they use the same setup as "other operating systems"?11:02
winbondcombinio, i dont remember what it does, just hit no11:02
RichiHis there any edubuntu-gui for KDE?11:02
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stdinthere is in gutsy11:02
artur_Ubuntu forever!11:03
artur_-)11:03
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combiniowinbond: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36763/ :: there is something written11:03
combiniowinbond: by default there is selected YES so maybe i should hit yes11:03
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winbondcombinio, it wont make any difference, hit no11:05
combiniowinbond: as u say11:05
combiniowinbond: now there is most imprtant step about modules11:06
combinioglx, dri, dbe, etc...11:06
combiniowhich modules should i mark ?11:06
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combiniowinbond: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36767/11:07
combinio<- there it is11:07
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chemicalvampanybody know what /dev/??? a USB cdrom would be?11:08
chemicalvampor how i could find it11:09
winbondcombinio, "i2c""bitmap""ddc" "dri" "extmod" "freetype" "glx" "int10" "vbe"11:09
combiniocan u just have a look there once again :: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36767/ :: cuz there is no i2c :/11:09
combiniowinbond: i moded it a little11:09
combiniowinbond: there are only those options :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36767/11:10
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combiniowinbond: sux - i screw it up... have to start from begging :[ cuz select not those modules :[11:11
combinioCRAP! :[11:11
winbondcombinio, so only select the ones which i listed that are there11:11
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combiniook11:11
chemicalvampanybody know what /dev/??? a USB cdrom would be? or where to look?11:11
chemicalvampi took a long break from linux so now im all rusty11:12
combinioi though that i'm selecting modules with ENTER and i hit enter button and go further :/ and no every modules were selected so i'm strting from begginig :/11:12
combiniohow many steps there is ? !11:12
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combiniowinbond: oupsss... can't open reconfigure server now ? :[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[11:13
winbondchemicalvamp, mount11:13
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combinioi just finish it with CTRL+Q buttons11:13
combiniowinbond: cuz i screw it up as i said11:13
combiniowinbond: is this not gonna work now ? :(11:13
winbondcombinio, restart computer11:14
combiniowinbond: ok11:14
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winbondcombinio, or maybe reload xserver11:14
combiniowinbond: ok11:14
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chemicalvampwinbond it shows a list of mounted media, the device i need isnt mounted11:15
winbondchemicalvamp, lsusb11:15
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chemicalvamp winbond the device i want is "Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046e:3005" i tried sda3 but it didnt work11:18
llutzchemicalvamp: cd-rom should be /dev/scdX11:18
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chemicalvampllutz says it doesnt exist11:19
hangthedj_serverchemicalvamp: usually usb storage devices are sdb?11:19
winbondchemicalvamp, sdx is for serial ata, , i dont know how the usb bus is marked11:19
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hangthedj_serverls /dev/sdb* -lh11:19
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llutzhangthedj_server: sdXY are (Hard, flash...)disks not cd-roms11:20
chemicalvampnone of these are working, i originaly tried /dev/sdb1 because my USB key is at /dev/sda111:20
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SilentDishello11:20
hangthedj_serverllutz: i should pay more attention to the conversation i suppose :p11:21
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chemicalvampis there a way to mount everything attched? then i could just look at its properties11:21
hangthedj_servercd roms are usually scd? in feisty and gutsy right?11:21
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combiniowinbond: ok, i'm on step with selecting modules11:22
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combiniowinbond: can u write to me which modules should i select once again ? :)11:22
llutzhangthedj_server: if not hda[b,c,d,]  yes11:22
winbondcombinio, "i2c""bitmap""ddc" "dri" "extmod" "freetype" "glx" "int10" "vbe"11:22
SilentDiswell, my adventured in EVDO are over.  i got it working (usbserial connection).  Now, i have a new problem.  I disabled my eth0 interface (it's got a router connection via dialup), and konq/kontact refuse to go over the ppp0 connection provided by kppp, what setting am i missing?11:22
combiniowinbond: all of them are selected by default except i2c - cuz it is not on that list11:23
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combinioand DBE - do not select ?11:23
llutzSilentDis: check the route (route -n), it should point to ppp0 as default if connected11:23
combinioeven if i would like to have a Compiz on AIGLX later?11:23
winbondcombinio, just keep going, most of the things u need are selected by default11:23
combiniowinbond: ok11:23
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combiniowinbond: write default Files section to configuration file ?11:24
combinioYES / no11:24
SilentDisllutz: ppp0 is the only listed interface, destination has an IP in it.11:24
winbondcombinio, yes11:24
combiniook.. now monitor... Attepmt monitor autodetection? YES / no11:25
chemicalvampi put a cd into my internal cd drive and it mounts, but if i put it into my external nothing happens11:25
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GInhi11:26
winbondhi11:26
GInany one knows what the taskbar is called on this screenshot? http://wolfnix.net/tmp/k4/k4.2.jpg11:26
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SilentDisllutz: firefox works without a hitch, as does Konversation, if that's any help.11:26
hangthedj_serverGIn: there are no icons in it.11:27
GInhangthedj_server, I mean the panel?11:27
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hangthedj_serverGIn: its hard to tell because there are no icons in it.11:27
GInhangthedj_server, http://wolfnix.net/tmp/k4/img/screenshot.png11:28
GInwrong url11:28
winbondthis is kde411:28
JucatoGIn: that's a mockup for KDE 411:28
combiniowinbond: another step: Method for selecting the monitor charateristics: Simple, Medium, ADVANCED ?11:29
Jucatohm.. actually no. it's just KDE 311:29
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JucatoGIn: that panel is just the regular KDE panel (Kicker), although I'm not sure how the person made that background image11:29
combiniowinbond: hope that not many steps to end :////////11:30
winbondcombinio, just go simple11:30
combiniook11:30
combiniowinbond: desired default color depth in bits? 16/24 or less ?11:30
combinioguess that 24 ? ;>11:31
SilentDisjust enabled a 'net connection ppp0 (via kppp), disabled eth0.  Konq/Kontact refuse to work (Konversation, Firefox, ping, etc work fine) what setting am i missing?11:31
winbondcombinio, yeah11:31
combiniowinbond: is this over ? :)))))))11:31
combiniono more questions ? :D11:31
winbondcombinio, i guess so11:32
combiniooverwrote... so what now ? remove fglrx ? :D:D11:32
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combiniowinbond: at last! such many steps... but hope it was worth of it :D11:32
GInJucato, lol, I just made it looks like the one in the screenshot by setting the panel to transparent11:32
JucatoGIn: yeah. you can just probably fake the background11:33
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GInI can't wait for KDE4 any more11:34
GInit looks very promising :)11:34
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winbondcombinio, all u did was change the driver11:34
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winbondcombinio, now u need to figure out how to uninstall it,and then how to install the new one11:35
combiniowinbond: so now i is open :)11:35
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combiniook - i'll find some how-to :)11:35
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combiniothanks a lot for help :)11:35
chemicalvampok thanks everyine for he help11:36
winbondcombinio, yup11:36
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GInisn't there any deb package for the Domino theme?11:36
GInhow do u install the the X development files?11:37
JucatoGIn: xorg-dev11:37
JucatoI believe there are .deb packages for Domino in KDE-Look11:37
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boubbin_!k3b11:37
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto11:38
GInnope,11:38
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stdinGIn: nope?11:39
GInstdin, just found it :)11:39
boubbin_how to burn mp3 cd's with k3b, i need a package that makes it possible ?11:39
stdin!mp311:39
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:39
Jucatoboubbin_: burn mp3's into audio cd's? install libk3b2-mp311:40
SilentDisjust enabled a 'net connection ppp0 (via kppp), disabled eth0.  Konq/Kontact refuse to work (Konversation, Firefox, ping, etc work fine) what setting am i missing?11:40
boubbin_Jucato thanks11:40
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winbondboubbin_, what do u mean mp3 cd?11:45
winbondu just want to burn some mp3s on the cd?11:46
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shiverscplease help me http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=929033211:47
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Jucatoshiversc: do not spam11:48
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stdinwas that lag or just you being slow? :p11:49
Jucatoslow11:50
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fulat2khi folks, i'm trying to get my nokia phone to pair with my pc via bluetooth on kde 3.5.7.  however, i'm unable to do so.  any pointers?11:50
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parsniphi all11:57
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parsnipquick question...why is kate called kate?11:57
parsnip!kate11:57
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code11:57
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emilsedghKde's Advanced Text Editor11:58
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parsnipemilsedgh: cheers man, makes sense11:59
emilsedghnp parsnip11:59
parsnipemilsedgh: thats all i came in for really, was really curious (sad I know)11:59
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parsnipemilsedgh: peace11:59
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RichiHstdin: was that for me?12:03
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deviance!code12:03
ubotuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida12:03
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RichiHstdin: the kedubuntu, so to speak12:04
stdinRichiH: yeah12:04
stdin!info edubuntu-desktop-kde edgy12:04
ubotuPackage edubuntu-desktop-kde does not exist in edgy12:04
stdin!info edubuntu-desktop-kde gutsy12:05
stdin(not edgy :P)12:05
ubotuedubuntu-desktop-kde: edubuntu desktop system with KDE desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 1.41 (gutsy), package size 14 kB, installed size 44 kB12:05
RichiHcool12:05
RichiHstdin: thanks12:05
stdin:)12:05
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johnnylittlehey guys12:17
emilsedgh!hi | johnnylittle12:17
ubotujohnnylittle: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!12:17
johnnylittlei just tried to install kubuntu and it looks like 1's and 0's are having a gay pride parade on my lcd12:18
johnnylittleit says out of scan range12:19
emilsedghjohnnylittle: installed finished?12:19
johnnylittleand it's some crazy rainbow with lines and stuff all over the place12:19
johnnylittleno just started12:20
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johnnylittlei have a quad core core2 and a 7600gs ge-force12:20
emilsedghjohnnylittle: press alt+ctrl+f1, then run sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:20
stdinput a sudo before dpkg-reconfigure12:21
johnnylittlek12:22
johnnylittlewow..12:22
johnnylittleok yeah..12:22
johnnylittlenow it looks like an old fashioned robber shirt12:22
johnnylittlealso i have xp installed then vista and now i'm installing ubuntu on the 3rd partition12:23
johnnylittleif i can get it installed will lilo or grub let all of the os work?12:23
emilsedghjohnnylittle: they all will work, Grub will be installed12:24
johnnylittlei did it with suse and it was great12:24
johnnylittleyeah i'm getting weird lines though12:24
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johnnylittlei dont get x or shell12:25
johnnylittleand 7600gs is supposed to be out of the box12:25
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johnnylittleso what should i do now?12:28
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johnnylittlei just started in safe grafix mode12:29
tobias_johnnylittle: you reconfigured your xorg ?12:29
tobias_what driver are you currently running12:29
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KartiHi all, just wondering if there were any new ways to read an Outlook pst file so I can port it to Kmail?12:30
johnnylittleit booted is safe grafix mode12:30
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tobias_johnnylittle: thats not an answer to my question :)12:30
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johnnylittlei haven't even  installed12:31
johnnylittlei have no idea12:31
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johnnylittlei just started the install cd in safe mode12:31
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tobias_oh okay my bad12:31
tobias_and does it work now? The install I mean12:32
johnnylittlei'm in X at the desktop12:32
tobias_without any rainbows and stuff?12:32
johnnylittleno parade12:33
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johnnylittlelol12:33
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tobias_nice12:33
johnnylittlelooks nice12:33
tobias_yes indeed it does =)12:33
tobias_okay then- I am away, so cant answer any more questions but most of the ppl here know more about kubuntu than I do anyway12:34
tobias_so good luck12:34
johnnylittlenow i have a quad booting pc12:34
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_Shade_i have just installed kde4 on kubuntu gutsy. Where does it install kde4 files since i can't run it12:34
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ScorpKingdwidmann: i think i found something to monitor bandwith, mrtg, but it's not a karamba script as i wanted. it will have to do for now.12:37
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johnnylittleit's not showing my partitions12:38
johnnylittleso i cant install12:38
johnnylittleoh wait...12:38
johnnylittledang just took a while12:38
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emilsedgh_Shade_: in Beta1/Feisty there were in /usr/lib/kde4/bin :)12:40
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_Shade_emilsedgh: so how do i add it to xsessions?12:41
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Jucato_Shade_: the instructions for how to use KDE 4 beta packages are in the Kubuntu announcement page12:41
Jucatohttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php12:42
johnnylittlehey does the swap need to be behind or in front of the ext3?12:42
johnnylittlein the partition manager i have a 160 gig partitioned like this...12:42
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Jucatodoesn't matter as far as I know12:42
ScorpKingbest to put swap last12:43
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Jucatowith at least 1GB RAM, swap is almost unused12:43
_Shade_Jucato: yeah but i can't apply these since they're feisty related12:43
Jucato???12:43
johnnylittlesda1 60000 xp, sda5 60000 vista, sda7 4000 swap, sda6 30000 ext312:43
Jucato_Shade_: Ensure feisty-backports is enabled or you are running gutsy.12:43
johnnylittlei have 2 gig ram and 4 gig swap12:43
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Jucatowow 4 gb swap....12:44
johnnylittleand it's pink pink teal red12:44
johnnylittledo i not need swap12:44
johnnylittle?12:44
_Shade_Jucato: i have gutsy but kde4 isn't listed in my xsessions12:44
Jucatojohnnylittle: you would. but with 2gb of RAM, 4gb of swap is overkill imho12:44
Jucato_Shade_: did you follow the last instructions carefully? have you tried to run any KDE 4 app first?12:45
johnnylittleok12:45
_Shade_no i haven't since i'm on kde3 now12:46
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emilsedghjohnnylittle: I think 256MB Swap would be enough, what do u think Jucato?12:46
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_Shade_Jucato: i can't run it. I have installed the packages though12:46
Jucato_Shade_: follow the instructions....12:46
Jucatoemilsedgh: I'd be more comfortable with 1GB ram...12:47
Jucatoer..12:47
Jucatoswap12:47
johnnylittleso... 2 gig swap?12:47
Jucatohehe12:47
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Jucatounless you're going to be doing very (memory) intensive work...12:47
johnnylittleumm12:47
johnnylittlei'll be using beryl12:48
Jucato_Shade_: if you read the instructions, you'll notice that you can run KDE 4 apps inside a KDE 3 session12:48
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Jucatojohnnylittle: that will largely depend on your video card's ram12:48
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Jucatobesides, it won't take up much RAM either12:49
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johnnylittle256 meg video12:50
johnnylittle2.4 ghz quad core intel12:50
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johnnylittle2 gig ddr2 460012:50
Jucatomore than enough...12:51
johnnylittleok so what about flags?12:51
johnnylittleand mount points12:51
johnnylittleext logical or primary?12:51
johnnylittlei usually just do it but i have xp and vista the way i want it12:52
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sniperhello12:54
johnnylittlejucato?12:54
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maurihi all12:54
maurisomeone can help me12:54
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Jucatojohnnylittle: no idea. sorry12:56
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Jucato!someone | mauri12:56
ubotumauri: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?12:56
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mauriUbukubu: sorry explain i dont know english ver well12:57
mauriubotu: /dev/video device is not created quen the webcam is plugged in12:58
Jucato!it | mauri12:58
ubotumauri: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:58
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jonnyHi guys.  Sorry if this is a stupid question but I'm new to KDE and I was wondering if it's possible to install the desktop effects with it?12:58
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jonnyAnybody know?12:58
mauriubotu: sei il massimo della cordialita12:58
Jucatomauri: ubotu is a bot12:59
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stdinjonny: you can install beryl/compiz/compiz-fusion if you want01:00
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jonnyCheers stdin.  Was just wondering in the first place whether or not it was possible with KDE so now I know.  Thanks mate.  Off had do you know of any good wiki entries or anything for Kubuntu?  Just if you happen to know one.01:01
mauriubotu: /dev/video device is not created when the webcam is plugged in01:02
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Jucatomauri: you are talking to a bot.01:02
mauriJucato: i understand now01:02
stdinjonny: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Beryl are good01:02
Jucatomauri: try asking in #kubuntu-it01:03
jonnyExcellent.  Thanks for your help mate.01:03
mauriJucato: here is not good01:03
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mauriJucato: can you help me?01:05
Jucatomauri: sorry, I don't know webcams01:05
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kylewilliamswhats the problem?01:06
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mauriJucato: i have a symple problem with the time shows in the desktop01:06
mauriJucato: it has 2 hours more than pc time01:06
maurii dont know how to change because if i change the clock in the desktop, also the machine clock change01:07
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arashHi, guys, I want to copy a whole DVD to my harddrive, is that possible with K3b?01:11
dappermuisyes01:11
dappermuisis it an encrypted dvd?01:11
arashdappermuis , I have no idea :-/01:11
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dappermuiswell put it to you this way...are yo going to copying it illegally?01:11
arashIt's one normal that you buy at store that has a movie on it01:11
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dappermuisarash, ok. you'll need libdvdcss then01:12
arashhmm, im not sure, it's from the library and my mom doesn't have time to watch it so :p ...01:12
dappermuisya ok...im not really ocncerned if you're copying it illegally or not01:12
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dappermuisim just trying to figure out if it has encrytion or not01:13
dappermuisanyway, install libdvdcss01:13
arashok thx01:13
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dappermuisthat will handle the decryption, and then copy it in k3b and just check the option to "only create iso"01:13
arashah, thanks :)01:13
dappermuisalternatively, you could copy it with k9copy or rip it with acidrip01:14
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arashdid you mean 'libdvdcss2' , 'libdvdcss' doens't exist in adept :p01:14
combinioif i install fglrx drivers with 'sh ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run' command - how can i remove them ??01:14
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combinio:: i mean this program install it instead me01:14
Jucato!libdvdcss01:15
dappermuisarah, yes that one's fine01:15
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs01:15
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arashthanks dappermuis and Jucato01:15
dappermuisnp01:16
nkalinichow do I install a program from a tar.gz file?01:16
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arashnkalinic , before installing, I think it's best to check if the program already exists in adept..., elseway I think you just can rightclick and click install package01:17
mumificiranioh01:17
mumificiranitnx :)01:17
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mumificiranione problem01:18
mumificiraniI dont see Install package on the pop up menu when I rightclick :\01:18
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dappermuismumificirani, do you have universe and multiverse repositories enabled?01:19
arashmumificirani , hmm ,first check if the webpage you download from has any instructions... (or do what dapper just said first)01:19
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mumificiraniyes01:20
tluca1Is there a way to get konqueror to use the gecko rendering engine?01:20
dappermuisother than that, installing from source is a relatively easy process - everyone should learn to do it01:20
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mumificiranidapper then teach me xD01:21
mumificiraniI knew it before now I lost it somehow01:21
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dappermuismumificirani, ok - well you first need to extract the tar.gz file01:22
mumificiraniyeah I did it01:22
tluca1anybody?:- Is there a way to get konqueror to use the gecko rendering engine?01:22
arash!patience |tluca101:22
ubotutluca1: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:22
tluca1sorry01:23
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dappermuistluca1, i dont know - but what's wrong with khtml?01:23
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tluca1dappermuis: it doesn't render all pages correctly and I wan't to be able to view them right without changing browser01:25
mumificiraniok now I extracted this01:25
mumificiraninow what01:25
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dappermuisnow cd into the directory01:25
mumificiraniok01:25
dappermuisand run ./configure - that checks if your computer meets all the requirements required to compile the program01:26
mumificiranihm01:27
mumificiranii put ./configure and it says no such file01:27
mumificiraniI'm trying to install VisualBoyAdvance that's the point01:28
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dappermuispost the output of a "ls"01:28
arashwhat??? that exists even in 'install/remove' programs :O (right?)01:28
mumificiraniit does?01:28
mumificiranihm ok01:28
mumificiranixD01:28
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dappermuishehe01:29
mumificiraniwhat's the name of the package?01:29
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dappermuisvisualboyadvance01:29
arashI think01:29
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mumificiranioh it works01:29
mumificiranixD01:29
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mumificiraniNow that I installed it where will I find it?01:31
sophyhi01:32
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Aranelhi, can I ALT+TAB like switcher in full screen applications ?01:34
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dappermuismumificirani, it should be under KMenu -> Games01:34
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dappermuisAranel, i don't see why not01:35
mumificiranidapper but it isn't01:35
mumificiranishould I ctrl-alt-bksp?01:35
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arashmumificirani , meh, it just takes 15 sec to restart anyway so :)01:36
mumificiraniyeah :)01:36
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hcboxmy gstreamer crash, one of a reseaon of that could be from the soundcard i dont have ?01:36
dappermuishaha01:36
dappermuisi'd never used ctrl+alt+bkspc before01:36
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arashdappermuis , are you kiddding me?01:37
arashman, linux crashes all the time :p, so you have to do it...01:37
dappermuisarash, nope - i've never had to restart X01:37
dappermuisarash, thats not linux crashing, thats X crashing01:37
dappermuisand it usually only happens if you mess with beryl and video card drivers and stuff01:38
mumificiraniX window system xD01:38
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arashYea, that's correct, but still... , dappermuis , yea  , usuall because that or because Lazarus :p01:38
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dappermuismumificirani, try running visualboyadvance from the command line and see what happens01:38
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maurianyone know how to kubuntu able to recognize a webcam?01:40
dappermuismauri, it should be able to01:40
mauridappermuis: when i connect it to usb port, the device /dev/video is not created01:41
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dappermuismauri, well then see what device is created01:42
dappermuiswhen you connect it do a "dmesg | tail|01:43
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mauriit seems that no device is created01:44
dappermuismauri, then your device is dead...whenever a device is plugged into usb a kernel event happens01:44
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sahin_hmauri: Here's an article: http://www.linux.com/feature/11889601:46
sahin_hmauri: webcam under linux in general01:46
sahin_hmauri: Maybe it will be nady for you...01:46
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deviance!dock01:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:47
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sahin_hmauri: Sorry, so I mean... Maybe it will be handy for you...01:48
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dappermuisnice article sahin_h01:49
maurisahin_h: i installed gspca module but it doesn't work01:49
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sahin_hmauri: I have no idea, i just show this article. I bookmarked two days ago.01:49
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sahin_hmauri: I have no webcam at all, so I have no real experiences.01:50
dappermuisi once got a webcam to work01:51
sophyWhy KNetworkManager doesn't connect my computer to the Net automatically at the boot (at least to the network) ?01:51
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sophy(at least to the last network)01:51
dappermuissophy, it might be that it needs a password which isn't available at boot01:51
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sophydappermuis: what doesn't it remember the passwords ? Can it be changed ?01:52
sophydappermuis: why01:52
danyahello .. I'm having problems with aMSN .. when I launch it .. and click on the tray icon .. It doesnt work ..01:52
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dappermuissophy: the password used by knetworkmanager are usually stored by kwallet, kwallet isn't available at boot. So, you have to wait till kde starts and then allow knetworkmanager to open kwallet01:53
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dappermuisso that it can get the password and connect01:53
arashwhy do k9Copy ask for filename for all the 50 segments in a DVD? can't you tell it to auto-name the .avi-files?01:53
sophydappermuis: how to allow knetworkmanager to open kwallet, and how to store the wep key in kwallet ?01:54
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maurisahin_h: ok thans01:54
sahin_hmauri: np01:54
dappermuisarash: are you trying to rip the dvd to avi?01:54
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arashdappermuis , yea, since I discovered that it can include subtitles with the .avi automatically :)01:55
ubuntuhello01:55
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dappermuisarash: i've never really like ripping dvds with k9copy. i much prefer acidrip01:55
arashlemmetry :01:55
onewordHi, Im helping a friend convert to kubuntu, how do you open konqueror as root?01:55
dappermuissophy: when you connect to the network you should tell knetworkmanager to store the password01:55
arashgksu konquerer01:55
ubuntuopen a shell and type s01:56
arashwell konqueror*01:56
dappermuisthis is ubuntu01:56
onewordIts not working for him, X is refusing to connect01:56
ubuntusu01:56
dappermuisi mean kubuntu, so use kdesu konqueror01:56
Briareos1I am trying to add a "Play DVD with MPlayer" to the dialog which pop-ups when i put a dvd into the drive. so I configured the option with the command "mplayer dvd://", but i get an error - something like "invalid address: ."01:56
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onewordIt's not working..01:56
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sophydappermuis: it doesn't ask me to save the password...01:57
sophydappermuis: I have nowhere to set it ?01:57
dappermuissophy, when you connect to the network does it ask you for a password?01:57
Briareos1any idea or hints on that?01:57
dappermuisBriareos, it might be that you need to specify the dvd path01:57
dappermuisso use dvd://dev/dvd or whatever01:58
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sophydappermuis: it asks me for an hex wep key, but not for a password01:58
dappermuiswell yes, the wep key - is there no option to store the key?01:58
llutzdappermuis: that is defined by option "-dvd-device" to mplayer01:58
sophydappermuis: no...01:58
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dazjorzHi01:58
nkalinicok another problem01:59
dappermuissophy: ok, well unfortunately I can't check for you because I don't have access to a wireless network at the moment01:59
dazjorzOn Kubuntu.com, I have the choice between an x86 and an AMD64 CD to download01:59
nkalinicHow do I install Java Runtime for Firefox/Konqueror?01:59
dappermuisllutz: ok, thanks01:59
dazjorznow, I have an Intel Core 2 Duo, which is 64-bits, but not AMD.01:59
dazjorzWill the AMD64 bits work OK / better than the x86-CD ?01:59
llutzdazjorz: amd64 would work but i doubt you need it :)01:59
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dappermuisnkalinic: for firefox install sun-java6-plugin02:00
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dazjorzllutz: Yeah you're right, I probably wouldn't need the extra speed02:00
dazjorzllutz: so you recommend I use the x86?02:00
llutzdazjorz: 64bit only advantages are handling of >4GB RAM, interupts etc. no speed improvement at normal systems02:00
dazjorzoh, by the way, I am going to play some games like UT2004, so any bit of extra speed is better02:00
kaminix2I just scanned this image: http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/3892/coversg2.jpg  Any ideas as to how I can "fix it" (I'm mostly thinking about the grid thingie)? Oh, and this is a cut and reencoded version to minimize the filesize, the original is 300x300 pixels larger and in png.02:00
llutzdazjorz: use 32bit and enjoy it02:00
dazjorzllutz: Okay, thanks :)02:01
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dazjorzllutz: A friend of mine says 64-bits OSes are a lot faster on 64-bits processors, because they implement the newest feature sets like SSE2, SSE3 and Intel VT02:02
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maurianyone know how to kubuntu able to recognize a webcam?02:03
dazjorzllutz: a difference of 20-25%02:03
llutzdazjorz: those features are used with 32bit too02:03
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llutzdazjorz: lol02:03
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llutzdazjorz: sorry but i don't believe that improvement on an average pc-system for private-users02:04
combinio!ati02:04
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:04
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dazjorzllutz: He says SSE3 isn't available at all on 32-bits processors02:05
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dazjorzBut oh well02:05
dazjorzI'll try 64 bits, if it gives any problems, I'll go back to 3202:05
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arashmauri, tried asking ubotu?02:06
nkalinicOk I installed the plugin but java still doenst work02:06
dappermuisnkalinic, thats a plugin for firefox02:06
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nkalinicwell yes02:07
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mauriarash: how can i do it02:07
nkalinicI know I am on FFX but it still doesn't work02:07
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combinioif have an error with gxlinfo | grep direct which is "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0" what it means ?02:07
arash!webcam | mauri02:07
ubotumauri: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras02:07
combinioand Direct Rendering - NO02:07
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dappermuisnkalinic: point you address bar to about:plugins and see what's there02:08
nkalinicok02:08
mauriarash: the guide is not enoght02:08
mauriarash: the guide is not enogh02:08
arashmauri: how come ?02:08
nkalinicdapper everything is yes02:09
mauriarash: sorry i dont understand02:09
dappermuisnkalinic, then it should work02:09
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arashmauri: have you read the guides through?02:09
nkalinicwell it doesnt02:09
nkalinic=D02:09
dappermuis:D02:09
dappermuisha! i don't know then02:09
dappermuiswhat page are you trying to access?02:10
nkalinicsome kind of java based chat :\02:10
sophyI have a lot of movies Kaffeine can't read or just read the sound, what packages do I need to make it work ?02:10
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dappermuissophy: libdvdcss202:10
dappermuis!libdvdcss02:11
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs02:11
dappermuisnkalinic, whats the url? then i can see if it works for me02:11
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llutzsophy: dvd-media or media-files?02:11
nkalinichttp://damir1977.coolfreepage.com/chat.html02:11
chook#kubuntu-fr02:11
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llutz!multimedia02:12
ubotuUbuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications02:12
chookplz how i can join the french room(kubuntu) forgot when i use mi client heheh02:12
fdovingchook: /join #kubuntu-fr02:12
chookthx fdoving ;)02:13
sophydappermuis: I have libdvdcss2 already02:13
chook /join #kubuntu-fr02:13
dappermuisnkalinic: works for me :/02:13
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dappermuissophy: see llutz post above02:13
sophydappermuis: yes...02:13
dappermuissohpy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications02:14
llutzsophy: libdvdcss2 is only imprortant for playing dvds, not avi/wmv/ogg-files02:14
nkalinicdapper02:14
nkalinicwhat are all the avaiable plugins for java?02:14
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nkalinicor java web runtimes neverthless02:14
danyaguys ... my screen light without any notice is not on :| .. I cant see clearly lol !!02:14
dappermuisnkalinic: there's j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin and sun-java-5 plugin02:15
dappermuissorry, thats sun-java5-plugin02:15
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nkalinickk02:16
chookyeees working di french rooom :)02:16
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sophyllutz: what to I need to play avi/wmv/ogg-files ?02:16
nkalinicI know that before resseting the KDE java worked on Konqueror02:16
dappermuisnkalinic: it might also do you good just to install the full java6 package02:17
nkalinicwhich is?02:17
dappermuissun-java6-jre02:17
nkalinicok02:17
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llutzsophy: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats02:19
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djdarkman_why is phpmyadmin messed up?02:26
djdarkman_#1045 - Access denied for user 'www-data'@'localhost' (using password: YES)02:26
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djdarkman_it never gave me this error02:26
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nkalinicomg02:27
nkalinicI have java6 alreday installed :(02:27
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dappermuishmmm :/02:28
dthacker!restricted | sophy02:29
ubotusophy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:29
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Viper550Is KDE 4 Beta 2 any good?02:29
stdindepends what you call "good"02:30
dappermuisdunno, im just downloading gutsy tribe 5 now, and then im gonna install kde beta 2 and test it :D02:30
dthackerViper550: define good,  and remember what Beta means.02:30
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maurianyone know how to kubuntu able to recognize a webcam?02:30
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sophydappermuis: I ran the big command in it... I'll test it right now... thanks :)02:30
Viper550I mean good, as in, how much better,different,etc is it compared to 3.5?02:30
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stdinViper550: massive difference, not usable yet tho02:30
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danya_hello ..02:31
judgenwhoohaa02:31
danya_I dont know whats wrong with my system guys02:31
dthackerViper550: I don't install Beta's, except for testing U/K/Edubuntu releases, sorry02:31
stdindjdarkman_: btw, I'm working on your bug :p02:31
Viper550I have used a KDE beta before, KDE 3.5 RC102:31
judgendanya_ ok02:31
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danya_sometimes when I log in ... the desktop wont download02:32
djdarkman_stdin: how did this happen?02:32
djdarkman_on my laptop i have feisty too02:32
dthackermauri: give us a specific model and error and we may be able to help you02:32
danya_and now im on KDE .. and its kinda slow .. and freezes and stuff ..02:32
djdarkman_is this a newer phpmyadmin?02:32
djdarkman_and the install script is wrong?02:32
stdindjdarkman_: I mean your "other" bug02:32
judgendanya what kind of freezes?02:33
djdarkman_the one with smplayer? stdin02:33
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mauridthacker: the model:http://www.emtec-international.com/en/produit.php?categorie=AVNOM&gamme=AV%20WEBCAMS&ss_gamme=W30002:33
stdindjdarkman_: yeah02:33
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danya_judgen it's just too slow .. the ff window kind of freezes for a couple of seconds ..02:33
mauridthacker: the error: device /dev/video is not created02:33
stdindjdarkman_: you have no idea the trouble it's giving me now :p02:33
judgendanya_: is your swap mounted?02:33
djdarkman_lol :D02:34
djdarkman_why stdin I compiled it without trouble02:34
danya_judgen : whats that ? .. I'm a new user02:34
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stdindjdarkman_: compiling is the easy part, I've done that dozens of times (today), it's splitting the packages up02:34
dthackermauri: do you get a prompt asking how to handle the cam when you plug it in?  (dthacker has no webcam stuff :()02:35
judgendanya_: its a partition for swapping files. Almost like the pagefile in windows.02:35
dthackeroops, afk for a sec.02:35
djdarkman_stdin: are you trying to split it up the way that only the installing differs and the source is the same?02:35
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danya_judgen : I'm not sure ...02:35
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danya_judgen : I've been on ubuntu for 2 months I think02:36
stdindjdarkman_: yep, one source, 3 packages02:36
judgendanya_: ok02:36
djdarkman_hmnm stdin that sounds elegant... but hard02:36
judgendanya_: is it only ff that freezes?02:36
stdindjdarkman_: it is, but it's a good learning experience :p02:37
danya_judgen : the desktop is fine now ..02:37
mauridthacker: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4     AND    configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice02:37
danya_judgen :I had a problem last week with gnome .. the desktop wouldnt load .. someone told me to delete all gnome files and log in again ..02:37
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stdindjdarkman_: I've learnt more about makefiles in the last few hours than I knew in total :)02:38
patrick__hello02:38
djdarkman_stdin: that sounds promissing, is it because of kde4?02:38
danya_judgen :I it worked fine ... bs now I'm having it again ... not always but sometimes :S .. I restart x .. and log in again and it works .. but yesterday aMSN starting to act weird ! .. and today I cant launch it ! .. when I click on the tray icon it wont work02:38
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stdindjdarkman_: well no, I was just board and thought it would teach me more about packaging :p which it is doing02:39
patrick__I'm facing a connection problem with conqueror... but it's ok with firefox...02:39
judgenusing compositin effects danya_ ?02:39
mauridthacker: do you received the dmesg log02:39
danya_judgen : like compiz ?02:39
judgendanya_:  yeh02:39
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djdarkman_stdin: is there a tool that can help packageeing I mean in a wizard for or something?02:40
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patrick__it's ok when I connect with an ethernet connection... but not with a wifi connection :s02:40
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danya_judgen : used to .. but when I deleted gnome files .. it's not woring anymore tho I still have the tray icon .. but I dont have compiz on kde02:40
djdarkman_brb02:40
dthackerback02:41
judgendanya_: ATI card?02:41
stdindjdarkman_: sortof, yeah. all cli tho, I've been reading https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html to learn how02:41
ksivajiis it possible to unzip zip file using Ark ?02:41
Viper550Has anyone tried KDE 4?02:41
danya_judgen : intel02:41
stdindjdarkman_: only started a couple days ago02:41
judgendanya_: oh.02:41
ksivaji stdin hi02:41
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stdinkey ksivaji02:42
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mauridthacker: are you still there02:42
danya_judgen : oh good or bad :P .. I heard it's the best02:42
dthackermauri: yep, researching02:42
judgendanya_: its great. i love my intel card02:42
weber_#kubuntu-de02:42
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patrick__Same problem with kopete... but OK with gaim...02:42
ksivajistdin  is it possible to unzip zip file using Ark ?02:42
judgendanya_: i thought it might have been related to the ATI fglrx driver. It made my previous computer have the same issues you describe.02:43
danya_judgen .. Im not really sure whats wrong with the system .. it works fine then not .. and like that .. I dont want one day to turn on my laptop and finding it not working at all :(02:43
judgendanya_: the HDD might be damaged. EXT is extremly sensitive to such stuff.02:43
stdinksivaji: should be, as long as you have unzip installed02:43
Viper550there are KDE4 packagea in Gutsy, right?02:43
judgendanya_: does the drive make any sounds?02:44
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ksivajistdin error:  invalid compressed data to inflate02:44
judgenexcept under load ofcourse.02:44
danya_judgen .. not really .. just the normal sounds02:44
judgendanya_: im afraid i cannot help you. As i dont know whats causing it. Im sorry.02:45
danya_judgen .. u know .. someone was helping me with installing compiz again since it wasnt working after deleting the files ..02:45
danya_judgen he gave me a script he made .. but it didnt work ..02:45
stdinksivaji: try in the command line, see if you get a better error message02:45
judgendanya_: do a complete deinstall of compiz02:45
danya_judgen : whts the command line for that plz ?02:45
ksivajistdin see this http://pastebin.com/d3cce020402:46
judgendanya_: i im fairly certain it has to do with compositing02:46
judgendanya_: gimme a sec.02:46
immortal_punkhow can i use hibernate from console?02:46
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danya_judgen : yea I thought so too cuz I kind of started having most of the problems after the script .. I couldnt find the guy in the chat rooms again !02:46
judgendanya_:  sudo apt-get remove compiz-core desktop-effects02:47
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dthackermauri: I see no entries for that webcam in the forums.  Is it a new model?02:47
llutzimmortal_punk: sudo echo disk >/sys/power/state02:47
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stdinksivaji: I dee you needed sudo, did you open ark as root?02:47
ksivajiya02:47
immortal_punkllutz: thank u02:47
danya_judgen : really thank u :D appreciated02:47
judgendanya_: you can also search in synaptic for any installed packages with the name compiz or xgl in them and select them for removal02:48
mauridthacker: probably is a new model but is cheap02:48
mauridthacker: do you know why /dev/video device is not created02:48
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danya_judgen : do u use wine ?02:48
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dthackermauri: no02:49
patrick__is there an offline mode for konqueror ?02:49
mauridthacker: is this the right place to ask for02:49
dthackermauri: I would go to launchpad and make a support request.02:50
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dthackermauri: you can post your device info and dmesg files there02:50
judgendanya_:  rarely..02:50
judgendanya_: only to play call of duty02:50
dthackermauri: and someone may be able to see the problem02:50
danya_judgen : aha .. just thought u might help me with it lol02:51
judgendanya_: sure02:51
mauriwhich is the address02:51
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judgenwhat seems to be the problem?02:51
mauridthacker: whici is the address02:51
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dthackermauri: https://answers.launchpad.net/02:52
danya_judgen ; simply its not working .. lol .. it only worked for an mp3 converter .. but for photoshop and a sony ericsson pc suite it wont :(02:52
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judgendanya_: using the ubuntu version or the one at winehq repos?02:52
mauridthacker: thanks02:53
judgendanya_: photoshop CS3 isnt supported with wine. just so you know. but the older versions work afaik02:53
dthackermauri: np, sorry I wasn't more help02:53
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danya_judgen : I dont know which repos .. they were for a 64-bit .. and it was an older version CS2 i blv02:53
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judgendanya_: the sony ericsson stuff connects through an proprietary windows driver to your phone and wine dont simulate windows in the driver level. so it shouldnt work.02:54
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danya_judgen : aha ... so I should install windows lol !02:55
danya_judgen : ok last favor .. since I got ur attention :P ... what should I do with aMSN ?02:55
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judgendanya_: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=263102:56
judgenlook at this02:56
judgeninstall 7.0 instead of CS 7.0 works perfectly02:56
judgendanya_: remove it. Install kopete instead. It always works perfectly for me..02:57
ksivaji!bzip2recover02:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bzip2recover - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:58
danya_judgen .. I dont like kopete .. and I rarely work on kde02:58
danya_judgen : .. but the ratings of the link u gave me above is garbage lol02:58
judgendanya_:  what wm do you use then?02:58
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judgendanya_: i know. Thats why i said CS2 dont work well02:59
judgen7.0 works perfectly02:59
danya_judgen : whats a wm ?02:59
judgendanya_: Windowmagnager. Or to be exact. What desktop do you prefer then?02:59
emilsedghdanya_: WindowManager03:00
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danya_judgen .. gnome03:00
judgendanya_: tried Gaim?03:00
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danya_judgen .. nope03:00
judgendanya_: its atleast a hundred times better than aMsn in my experience. And kopete even above that03:01
danya_judgen : .. ah I'm on Gaim now .. since aMSN isnt working .. I dont know why I like aMSN .. probably because I got used to it03:01
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emulehallo wie geht es euch????????????03:02
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judgen!german03:02
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:02
titanix88huh?03:03
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emulehallo03:03
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emulewie geht es euch03:03
judgenEnglish channel03:03
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titanix88emule : r u nazi?03:03
emulepech03:03
maverick_!german | emule03:04
ubotuemule: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:04
judgenmature titanix8803:04
stdintitanix88: don't do that...03:04
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stdin!guidelines | titanix8803:04
ubotutitanix88: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:04
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czer323judgen, are you a republican?  TECHNICALLY, it's the same question.  It just depends on your personal social take.03:04
danya_judgen : thank u for ur help03:05
judgeni dont ask political non-opensource related questions in a linux channel03:05
danya_czer323 :maybe he/she takes it really personal ..03:05
czer323danya_, maybe they didn't.03:05
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maverick_czer323: when you ask someone if he beongs to a faction/group which you know already that this provokes him/her ...well, i don't think it's the same03:05
danya_czer323 : maybe they do03:06
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czer323danya_, the world may never know.  Unless you ask.03:06
danya_yea It's not really the same03:06
danya_doesnt have to be sensitive Q's like these :)03:06
titanix88actually our country suffered serious genocide far greater than nazi era . it just didn't catch international attention.:(03:06
czer323They're only sensitive because you make them sensitive.03:07
judgenczer323: its like asking someone that works at a daycare center, if he likes to work there since he is a pedofile03:07
danya_titanix88 : whats ur country ?03:07
czer323You simply add your own social context.03:07
titanix88bangladesh03:07
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llutz!ot03:07
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:07
judgenllutz:  thanks03:07
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czer323judgen, That's a legitimate question.  I wouldn't want my child in that daycare if there was a pedophile that worked there.  It might be socially awkward, but extremely legitmate.03:08
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czer323Anyway, i'll buzz off.03:08
judgenczer323: if he/she was, would they tell the truth?03:08
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czer323You may never know the real answer.  Unless you ask.03:08
stdinjudgen, czer323: if you want to continue that discussion, take it elsewere03:09
judgenthis is a linux channel, dont ask such things. as it does not matter.03:09
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judgendthacker: i want all packages in all repos on my 80mb 386 computer... can you solve that =)03:10
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stdintitanix88: stop that or leave, your choice03:11
titanix88ok,just clearyfying.03:11
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titanix88sorry if03:12
titanix88i hurt anyone.03:12
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dthackerjudgen: http://www.freenas.org/   Just ignore that little BSD guy in the corner03:12
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judgendthacker:  haha03:13
titanix88ot?03:13
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judgenbtw what heppened to the PPC verson of u/k/x buntu?03:13
judgenOT=off topic03:13
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stdin!ppc | judgen03:14
ubotujudgen: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ03:14
dthackeras in not discussing kubuntu, which is this channel's purpose03:14
titanix88ohh...i was too:)03:14
alan__mornin guys03:14
BurningRangerhey fellas, just got a dell inspiron and popped Kubuntu onto it, and am having some networking issues. anyone willing to help?03:14
alan__small anoyance, but amarok (using xine) is skipping at certain moments, especially when dialogue boxes pop open, but not when I open actual programs. it's not the fastest computer, but an Athlon XP 2400+ w/ 1GB of ram03:14
BurningRangeri'm currently not even able to get wired networking going...03:14
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BurningRangeralan__: my suggestion would be to use a different sound system03:15
judgenstdin: was the PPC LTS too?03:15
BurningRangerlike ALSA/ESD/OSS and all that03:15
combiniocan someone help with Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". ?? [;03:15
stdinjudgen: I think so, should be03:16
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alan__burning, "dmesg|grep eth"?03:16
dthackerBurningRanger: I only have about 10 mins but first things first.  You've got Nic connected and lights on, right?03:16
alan__and xine uses also, to sue anotehr amarok backend I'd ahve to compile it, they were taken out of the repositories :\03:16
BurningRangerNIC is connected, the light is on.03:16
judgenI have a tiny problem with my sound too actually. I cant get it to play sufficiently loud. Even with all mixer settings at max, i still only get enought sound to hear it kinda low. As im hearing impaired its vital that i can get it louder.03:17
dthackerBurningRanger: good.  is the wired nic eth003:17
dthacker?03:17
BurningRangeractually hang on, it's not actually connected right now because i put the wire over to my desktop to join here,03:17
BurningRangerand now that i look atit03:17
BurningRangerthe light i saw might've been the power lights leaking from the inside.03:18
BurningRangerlet me take another test please, brb03:18
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alan__true story03:19
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dthackerand that's why I never assume silly stuff, 'cos I know I make silly mistakes03:21
titanix88anyone knows why irc hosts all tech chats?03:21
GInhow do you install a theme in kde?03:21
titanix88why not another protocol?03:21
llutztitanix88: which?03:21
alan__Settings --> Appearance and Themes --> Theme manager?03:21
judgentitanix88: IRC is universal, works on most systems and it can be used to text-based systems03:21
alan__in kcontrol... which I think is still hidden by default for some stupid reason03:22
titanix88like yahoo,gtalk etc.03:22
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stdintitanix88: IRC has been around forever, it's open, tested and true, that's why03:22
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llutztitanix88: nobody wants to depend on yahoo/google/<company of your choice>, even if they use xmpp03:23
titanix88maybe irc 2 can evolve.03:24
stdininto what?03:24
titanix88like internet2.003:24
judgenLOL internet 2.0 is just a laugh03:24
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titanix88flashy new technology.03:25
judgentitanix88:  like what?03:25
mosnoETOOMANYINTERNETS03:25
GInhow do you install a theme in kde?03:25
stdin!changethemes | GIn03:25
ubotuGIn: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.03:25
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judgenanyone got a solution to my sound problem. In BeOS it works fine to play louder (alot louder in fact maybe 10 times louder)03:26
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judgenbut in kubuntu it wont work to play louder. All is maxed out and i get a weak low sound at best.03:27
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titanix88if irc was enough than why comanies keep making new protocol and the get success?that's my logic.03:27
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BluesKajHowdy All :)03:28
stdintitanix88: most actually use a form of IRC, yahoo for instance does03:28
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judgentitanix88: because they want to reach out to the non-technical audiences that likes images and sounds in their conversations. IRC is better for technical stuff just because they DONT allow that kinda crap03:28
titanix88hey blueskaj.03:29
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judgenhare rama...03:29
judgenthis song rocks.03:29
BluesKajhi titanix8803:30
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titanix88stdin,judgen:got it!03:30
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TECKBWlooking for help to upgrade from dapper to fiesty fawn, I have the disk ordered through shipit03:32
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emilsedghTECKBW: Disks are not for upgrading...03:32
arashemilsedgh, I think they are...03:33
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stdinTECKBW: you'll have to go from dapper > edgy > feisty03:33
BluesKajdepends on one's definition of upgrade03:33
arashemilsedgh, not their main purpose, yes, but I remember they say when u upfrade that you can save bandwith in case you put in disk03:33
TECKBWwell I had 6.06 and now i have 7.04 on cd the one from shipit03:33
kaminix2Can I use convert (the imagemagick program) to resize to X% of the image's original size?03:34
titanix88with live cd upgrade is not possible.03:34
judgenhmm seems it has nothing to do with the soundsystem that my volume sliders dont go higher,,,03:34
stdinarash: only with the alternate cd03:34
emilsedgharash: they do not have packages, so they couldnt upgrade...03:34
judgenwonder what it could be?03:34
TECKBWinternet update would not be suitable...don't have the speed, nor the bandwidth03:34
arashtitanix88 , yes type 'imagemagick --help' I think03:34
judgenTECKBW: isnt the internet upgrade only about 800mb or so?03:34
TECKBWanyother way I can upgrade03:34
arashstdin, emilsedh, ah I see, never mind then :)03:35
TECKBWwell, I live in the kalahari, so internet is slow and expensive03:35
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kaminix2arash: Highlighted the wrong person? ^^03:35
judgenooh a south african, nice03:35
arashkaminix2:  yes :p03:36
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GInwhat to install to get the command svn?03:36
TECKBWnope...not south african....I am from Botswana in actual fact03:36
TECKBWneighbors03:36
ksivajimy system hang only when i start a game called Xmoto is it possible to find the reason why it hang ?03:36
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stdinGIn: subversion03:37
titanix88teckbw is a original ubuntu.03:37
TECKBWso basically there is no chance of keeping my settings and upgrading to 7.04...would have to do clean install...would that be the correct assumption03:37
BluesKajTECKBW afraid so03:37
arashcant teckbw just order the two CD's required for the upgrade?03:38
titanix88why they only ship edubutu non-live?03:38
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TECKBWI did not see any upgrade disks on the shipit web site03:39
ksivajihow to extract a file that comes with extension >pk303:39
TECKBWnp03:39
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llutzkaminix2: convert -resize \%50 image.jpg out.jpg03:39
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ksivajihow to unzip or untar a file that comes with extension >pk303:39
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GInany one here use the theme Domino ?03:39
titanix88teckbw : use the edubuntu disk.03:39
kaminix2llutz: Didn't need the escape :)03:39
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TECKBWI don't have edubuntu disk...will have to order and wait another 5 weeks03:40
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BurningRangerso i've got wired internet working now. i'm not sure what the problem was.03:40
titanix88teckbw :u can dlod the iso s then.03:40
TECKBWI was wondering is there any way to add the repos from the cd to the apt config files03:41
BurningRangerdmesg|grep eth brings up a few things, one of which mentioned ipV6 not being supported by my router03:41
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BurningRangerstill no wireless.03:41
TECKBWnope, can't download is0s dont have the bandwidth.03:41
BurningRangeri go to knetwork manager and try to enable wireless, and it gives me a motionless dialog box.03:41
BluesKajTECKBW, there is a way to preserve your settings ...let me do a search for a few mins ...i think it'will help03:41
titanix88teckbw:sudo apt-cdrom add03:41
TECKBWok will try that03:42
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BurningRangeris there anywhere i can go to get feedback as to why my wireless won't work? an error message at least?03:42
titanix88blueskaj:copy ur home folder.03:43
judgentitanix88: he does now have the badwith03:43
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GInany one here use the theme Domino ?03:43
ksivaji.pk3 is a compressed file is there any tool in ubuntu to uncompress it03:43
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TECKBWwill I be able to upgrade using the cd and adept then...that way saving bandwidth?/03:44
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BluesKajtitanix ...not necesarily...depends on his "settings"03:45
BurningRangeranyone have any idea why that happens? Knetwork manager doesnt even return an error message when i try to activate wireless. it just gives a dialog box that does nothing, and then goes away after some time.03:45
BurningRangerdo i need a new driver?03:45
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titanix88anyone know any irc channel solely non technical?03:49
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stdintitanix88: ##social03:50
titanix88stdin: really?!?03:51
stdinthere are many, many, channels. lots aren't "technical"03:51
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stdintitanix88: /list to see them all03:52
BluesKajhow does one format a USB stick to ext?03:52
stdinBluesKaj: with mke2fs  (or a GUI)03:52
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llutzBluesKaj: change partitiontype to "linux" and mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdXY then03:52
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TECKBWi have another problem, the whole reason I wanted to upgrade...my lan card which is pcmcia only works if plugged in after booting to the desktop03:54
TECKBWis there any way to sort out the problem03:54
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clintc_hometrying to get an maudio delta 66 to work with kubuntu 7.04, everthing looks right but there is no sound, hardware has been verified to be good with dual boot to windows03:56
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clintc_homeenvy24control sees pcm output, interrupts are not shared03:57
TECKBWi have another problem, the whole reason I wanted to upgrade...my lan card which is pcmcia only works if plugged in after booting to the desktop03:57
TECKBWis there any way to sort out the problem03:57
clintc_homecan anyone help with this sound problem or recommend a better channel?03:58
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ckdhave a problem with avant-navigator03:58
ckdhttp://ubuntuusers.de/paste/14694/03:58
BurningRangerhey guys i'm trying to follow this howto: http://www.linux-geek.org/index.php/2007/04/22/dell-1390-native-linux-driver-how-to-updated03:58
BurningRangerand i get an error message at the last step:03:58
BurningRangertar: /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx.ko: Cannot chdir: No such file or directory03:59
BurningRangerdid i do something wrong...?03:59
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TECKBWmy lan card is a cat5 type 10/100 nic03:59
BurningRangerwhat file is it telling me i'm misssing03:59
stdinBurningRanger: are you on feisty ?04:00
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BurningRangeri am on 7.04. that's feisty right04:01
stdinBurningRanger: what's the command you put in?04:01
BurningRangersorry i've been away from ubuntu for a while04:01
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BurningRangersudo tar xvjf ./bcm43xx-64bit.ko.tar.bz2 -C /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx.ko04:02
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stdinBurningRanger: that's not what it says to put, take off the 'bcm43xx.ko' bit04:02
BurningRangeroh. good call04:03
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BurningRangerright, then. by reboot it means a full reboot right, not just restarting X04:03
stdinyeah, but I'd do a "sudo depmod -a" first04:04
hcboxis there a problem with audigy 1 wiith IEEE 1394 in kubuntu cause it seems to be unrecognized04:04
BurningRangerno response, just another prompt. what's that supposed to do04:04
stdinBurningRanger: updates the module list, no error means no error :)04:05
BurningRangersweet.04:05
BurningRangerlet's fire this baby up then shall weee04:05
BurningRangerbrb.04:05
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giovannisfor support in italian?04:07
GIn!mp304:08
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:08
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GInamarok can't play mp3 files??04:09
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GIn:S04:09
stdinsure it can04:09
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hcboxmy pci slot is mass-killing all my sound cards04:09
GInstdin, it says it can't04:10
jhutchinsGIn: have you installed xine-extracodecs?04:10
stdinGIn: did you read the link ubotu gave you?04:10
hcboxjhutchins: no :D04:10
stdinie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3#head-eea6f341d3c611167270106a187907c2a23e08e204:10
gutts[away] Ceci est un chan sur debian04:11
stdin!fr | gutts[away] 04:12
ubotugutts[away] : Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:12
stdin!away > gutts[away] 04:12
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combo!compiz04:12
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:12
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ksivajiplease someone tell me how to uncompress or unzip a .pk3 file in konsole04:13
runleveltena pk3 is a zip file man.04:13
runleveltenuse unzip.04:13
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BluesKajGents , not able to format my USB stick here are some of the complaints ..dev/sde1 is mounted; will not make a filesystem here! then , umount: /dev/sde1 mount disagrees with the fstab04:14
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stdinBluesKaj: see what "mount" says?04:15
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rothchildhi can someone tell me how to turn off the american dictionary in open office so that it respects my english (UK) spellings? (and uses it by default - I've set the language and locale settings but it's still underlining things where it wants to put a z rather than an s)04:15
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runleveltenthere's a gb openoffice package isn't there?04:18
runleveltenAlso, don't be surprised if it isn't perfect.04:19
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x5think u can do dat in tools04:19
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judgenanyone know where i can download the wasp icon set for kde?04:25
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judgenkde-look.org link is dead04:25
bizkuthttp://www.kde-look.org/ is alive04:27
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rothchildrunlevelten yes and I have it installed but for some reason it want's to use both dictionaries!?04:27
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judgenbizkut:  yes it is, but not the link on the site to the wasp theme.04:27
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bizkuti don't see any dead link04:28
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rothchildand if something is spelt with an s rather than a z it underlines it but gives me the option to tell it that it is a uk word, this is just daft04:28
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judgenbizkut: search for wasp and try to download it.04:29
richard_hey is there a way to share files using cifs? I am having issues sharing a multi-user db file with smb...04:29
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judgenRichard smb=cif04:30
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bizkutjudgen: the color scheme?04:30
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bizkutjudgen: or icon?04:31
richard_ok i'm having issues sharing a multi-user db file with smb can someone give me some help plz?04:31
kkathman!nvidia04:31
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:31
GInchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found.04:32
GInwhat do I need?04:32
richard_GIn what are you trying to build?04:32
stdinQt headers04:32
GInopaquedark-0.104:32
GInit is a window decoration for kde04:33
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richard_ok04:33
GInwhat package should I i nstall?04:33
x5anyone had successfully installed a S3 UniChrome04:33
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judgenbizkut: icon04:34
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stdinGIn: I'd say you need libqt3-mt-dev04:34
richard_poison-- worked for me ootb04:34
judgenbtw is there any emerald decorator that looks limilar to BeOS?04:34
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bizkutjudgen: http://www.kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=9763&id=2 - this link dead. Not kde-look.org04:35
judgenbizkut: thats what i said04:36
judgeni was looking for a mirror04:36
GIncompile error :S04:36
stdin!compile | GIn04:36
ubotuGIn: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:36
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parsniphi all04:41
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parsnipi just downloaded a video but its compressed into a .SOL file04:41
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parsnipcan anyone suggest a solution to get this played at all04:41
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poison--richard_ , ootb... im new to kubuntu, is dat a package04:43
poison--and damn thing dont seems to find my interrogation key here lmao04:43
runleveltenWell firstly, I have to underline the irony of it being called an "SOL" and not playing.04:43
runleveltenThen I will see if anything plays it :D04:43
parsnipcheers runlevelten04:44
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kabutosalut04:45
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Hub441hi!04:54
parsnipsup Hub44104:54
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Hub441i've read about using "pin_helper" in hcid.conf. is this still needed for feisty? daemon.log says that this is a unknowen option04:54
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BurningRangeri'm running AMD64 and so i can't run flashplugin-nonfree. i'm looking at using one of the free alternatives. which is best?04:55
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winbondyesss, beta2 it here04:56
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BurningRangeris it worth it though04:57
BurningRangeri mean don't i get like sweet performance increases from all the bits i'm shoving aorund04:58
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Hub441shouldn't passkey-agent run by default as a service?04:58
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Hub441just started "passkey-agent --default..." and bt pairing works!04:59
parsnipBurningRanger: theres an Open source flash version of flash04:59
BurningRangerdo you think i should use a SMP build then?04:59
flatulentubuntu documents say a 15% performance increase04:59
BurningRangerright, there's a couple, parsnip. i'm wondering which is best.04:59
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llutzHub441: hopefully bt-pairing will be working in gutsy without all those issues05:00
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parsnipBurningRanger: ive read stiff about gnash05:00
parsnipBurningRanger: seems ok05:00
flatulentyes use  SMP05:00
flatulentuse x86_64 if it does what you want to do05:01
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parsnipBurningRanger: no one is best, or we'd all use it05:01
winbondi've red some review that shoed x64 is slower at pretty much everything than x32, except for compiling atuff05:02
parsnipBurningRanger: see which works for you05:02
winbondstuuff05:02
flatulentx86_64 would not do what I wanted to do, so i switched back05:02
winbondstuff05:02
parsnipBurningRanger: have fun, get messy05:02
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BurningRangernow here's the $64 question05:02
BurningRangerto switch to a SMP build or something - do i have to do a claen install05:02
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tatterstrying to synch my laptop and desktop using unison and ssh, where does koffice store all my user data and prefrences?05:03
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Hub441llutz: pairing works in gusty but that obex-filetransfer-app crashes. but there's a update available that i didn't install so far.05:04
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llutzHub441: ah, nice. i'll wait those 5 weeks, let them fix all that...05:05
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BurningRangerso is that a yes, or a no...?05:07
BurningRangera maybe so?05:07
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tluca1is there a way to use the gecko rendering engine in konqueror??05:08
flatulentswitching to x86_64 would be a clean install05:08
arashyou guys know why beryl deactivates my keyboard and removes the 'minimize/maximize/close' buttons form all the windwos?05:08
BurningRangerbut switching from?05:09
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flatulentyes switching to 32 bit would be a clean install too05:09
BurningRangerokay05:09
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BurningRangeri'll get started on that then05:09
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tattersif I synched my entire /me/home inc .hidden from my desktop to my laptop, is there anything I might need to filter out to prevent problems?05:14
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winbondHub441, whats pairing?05:15
arashhmm, keyboard still works with beryl05:16
arashbut I cant move windows05:16
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GInis it possible to configure kde to only previews images and not documents?05:16
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winbondarash, there is no beryl, only compiz fusion ;o)05:17
stdinGIn: View > Preview       to set what gets previewed05:17
combiniohow to clean up temporary files ?05:18
Jucatobah stdin beat me.. :(05:18
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arashwinbond:  what you mean?05:18
Jucatocombinio: which temporary files?05:18
combinioJucato: ALL temporary files :D05:18
combiniothere must be some, right ;)05:18
hcboxwhere can i watch log of apps crash05:18
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winbondarash, beryl merged with comipz, and its now called compiz fusion05:19
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Jucatocombinio: Alt+F2, "kcontrol", Security & Privacy -> Privacy05:19
combinioJucato: thx05:19
fdovingcombinio: /tmp/ will be automatically cleaned on reboot. if you're looking for freeing some space, you might want to remove the apt cache. 'sudo apt-get clean' in a konsole might help you.05:19
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combiniofdoving: understood, thx :)05:19
paipaipaihello. i just replaced ubuntu with kubuntu on my dualboot laptop. all of a sudden the windows entry in the grub menu disappeared. how can i restore it?05:19
winbond!pairing05:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pairing - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:20
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llutzwinbond: pairing means connection of two bluetooth-devices05:21
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winbondllutz, oh , thanks05:22
gcreatorexit05:22
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paipaipaihello. i just replaced ubuntu with kubuntu on my dualboot laptop. all of a sudden the windows entry in the grub menu disappeared. how can i restore it?05:23
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poison--edit grub i guess05:24
poison--menu.lst05:24
Jucato!grub05:25
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:25
tattersdoes anyone know where  koffice stores user data for korganizer etc?05:25
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Jucatoyou mean kontact, don't you?05:25
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llutztatters: ~/.kde/share/apps...05:26
Jucatokorganizer stores it's data in ~/.kde/share/apps/korganizer/05:26
paipaipaipoison, i tried doing it and followed the instructions on http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty/BootMenu#How_to_add_Windows_entry_into_GRUB_menu but i always get an error message05:26
tattersJucato: thnx05:26
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paipaipaipoison, everytime i type this sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst_backup and this: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst -- i get error messages05:27
Jucatotatters: you could always export/save the current calender into iCal/vCal/whatever05:27
GInhow to put a application launches at startup?05:27
Jucatopaipaipai: because gksudo and gedit are GNOME/Ubuntu apps which don't exist in KDE/Kubuntu?05:27
stdin!autostart | GIn05:28
ubotuGIn: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.05:28
Jucatopaipaipai: replace gksudo gedit with "kdesu kate"05:28
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tattersJucato: been trying to sync my laptop n desktop using unison and ssh ,05:28
Jucatoah I see05:28
paipaipaipoison, will update shortly05:28
tattersJucato: not sure if it ok to sync the whole home folder including hidden05:28
Jucatotatters: application data are stored in ~/.kde/share/apps/ and configuration files are in ~/.kde/share/config/05:28
Jucatotatters: I'm not sure either.05:29
tattersJucato: thnx for info ill add those, just seems theres a lot of folders n files in home and taking an age to selectivly  choose what not to sync05:31
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maurihow to converter mpe to wav?05:34
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Carnage\mauri: You could use mplayer05:36
Carnage\It can output the stream it just played05:37
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KeinWhy does the VMWare package keep making Adept hang?05:37
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mauriCarnage\: how it should be used....is it a player and not a converter05:39
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capre_tenebrumhow to see a version my friend's icq client in sim (or in licq) ?05:41
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Carnage\mauri: Take a look at the manpage05:43
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Carnage\It can act as decoder too05:44
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Carnage\-dumpaudio may work05:44
stdinKein: because you have to accept the licence05:45
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KeinThere's no option to do so, though. =(05:46
stdinKein: click the show details (or something) button05:46
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KeinGives me a license, no option to accept. ;/05:47
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poison--anyone using MCE05:47
Kein...aaaand adept decided to hang LITERALLY this time.05:47
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jaimshi all05:47
jaimswhich is the more suitable channel to ask about compiz fussion / kubuntu?05:48
Kein!adeptfix > Kein05:48
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poison--kein, think its a problem with packages05:48
KeinAlright.05:48
poison--had an issue with it too05:48
stdinjaims: #ubuntu-effects05:48
KeinThat's the only one I'm having trouble with, though.05:48
jaimsstdin: thank you05:48
poison--when u pic vmware to install, it install other dependencies05:48
stdinpoison--: no, it's a problem with adept05:48
jaimsbye all05:48
poison--usuallye gcc, older version with m05:48
KeinHmm.05:48
Hub441_hmm fund a kbluelock locale but no kbluelock binary. packages.ubuntu.com says that's in kbluetooth for gusty but not feisty :(05:48
KeinI've got Synaptic on here too.  Would that be more suitable to install it with?05:49
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poison--try it05:49
stdinKein: either that it apt-get05:49
poison--with me its said gcc package would break other package and just stoped05:49
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poison--and kein, why dont u try wine instead of vmware05:50
Keinpoison: I -have- wine. =D05:50
poison--:D05:50
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poison--luvely thing05:50
KeinI know what doesn't work with it, though.05:50
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poison--:(05:50
KeinAnd that's the program I use to GM half of my P&P games with.05:50
Kein=/05:50
KeinOr play in the rest, mind you.05:51
poison--couldnt install vmware here either05:51
KeinI have no clue why they're using D3D, in all honesty.05:51
KeinI tried installing OpenRPG, but it didn't work; followed the EXACT instructions and it won't let me boot up because wxPython isn't found or something.05:51
KeinTook about ten minutes to install the damn thing, too. =/05:52
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KeinAnyways.  Are there any particular must-haves for kubuntu?05:53
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poison--well, im messing around with it for 2 weeks now05:53
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poison--had tons of issues with some laptops, but now all seems easy05:53
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poison--MCE is not helpin me either05:53
KeinWell, looks like I have to reboot thanks to packages breaking again.05:54
Keinbrb.05:54
poison--k05:54
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mauriCarnage\: i didn't find05:57
mauriCarnage\: how to use mplayer to ocnvert mp3 2 wav05:57
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Carnage\Read the manpage... man mplayer05:57
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KeinWell, rebooting didn't fix it...05:58
rand_acs_has anyone here every gotten this message when trying to start emerald? emerald: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0"05:58
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rand_acs_I can't seem to figure out what's causing it... it doesn't want to load at all05:59
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PhinnFortare there any clients for the music player daemon (mpd) for KDE in the standard repositories?06:00
PhinnForti can't find kmp06:00
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poison--kein, just installed synaptic and vmware worked fine06:03
KeinAlright.06:03
KeinThat's not my problem now, though.06:03
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judgen!compile06:03
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:03
poison--u sure u have all thackages needed06:03
KeinNow I have to fix packages and I have no clue how.  Ran the adeptfix command, but...06:03
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poison--try apt-get -f install06:03
KeinGot you.06:04
Kein...aaaand the terminal hangs.06:04
KeinWait.06:04
KeinThere we go.06:04
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poison--lmao06:05
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KeinWell, once this is working it's time to install XP, even though I really don't want to.06:06
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Keinwoot.06:06
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poison--did it work06:06
KeinYes.06:06
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poison--cool06:06
rand_acs_apt-get -f install is awesome06:06
poison--first cmd i learned06:07
poison--lol06:07
Hub441_wich bluetooth profile do i need to provide my pda access to the internet?06:07
rand_acs_poison--: lol06:07
poison--always fuckin around with packages06:07
poison--fast i learned dat cmd06:07
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rand_acs_yeah I can't resist either...06:08
KeinYAY06:08
linkin_parkhi06:08
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facugaichHi, I have this .avi with dual audio but kaffeine lets me play only one. Help?06:08
poison--usually i get the same error while installing sl-modemd06:08
KeinNow ZSNES is running.06:08
poison--and i always need to do dat cmd06:08
poison--ZNES rock06:08
poison--lmao06:08
poison--kein, u can also try uninstall vmware, or purge and install again06:09
poison--worked with amarok 4 me06:09
KeinIt's working now, so I'm unconcerned.06:09
Kein;/06:09
poison--sweet06:09
KeinHowever, now the problem I want to solve is with KMix and that involves updating to Edgy/Feisty.06:09
linkin_parkmy tv card doesnt work :(06:09
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poison--linkin_park, wich brand06:09
KeinThe 6.06 one doesn't seem to have support for headphones.06:09
linkin_parksaa713306:10
poison--kein, whats wrong with it06:10
linkin_parkpinnacle06:10
linkin_park110i06:10
KeinIt doesn't have headphone support and I use headphones exclusively.06:10
Kein;/06:10
poison--try alsamixer06:10
KeinOkay.06:10
poison--only got a pixelview and a powercolor to run rite here06:11
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llutzHub441_: i guess "lan-access"06:11
poison--almost got an ASUS W2 tv card to work tho06:11
PhinnFort!mpd06:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mpd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:11
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PhinnFortI want to control MPD from my kubuntu machine, is that much to demand;)06:11
poison--!ootb06:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ootb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:11
PhinnFort?06:11
PhinnFortthere's at least two clients available, afaik06:12
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Hub441llutz: my pda provides this but not localhost in bluetooth:/06:12
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rock_!06:12
rand_acs_is anyone running compiz-fusion?06:13
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linkin_parkno06:13
BluesKaj!compiz | rand_acs_06:14
linkin_parkmy emerald doesnt even work ^^06:14
uboturand_acs_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:14
llutzHub441: try to use "pand"06:14
rand_acs_all the packages are marked "BREAK" for me in Adept06:14
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Keinalsamix didn't do anything.06:14
rand_acs_Beryl works fine btw06:14
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poison--kein, make sure theres no channel muted06:15
BluesKajrand_acs_, do you have synaptic installed?06:15
linkin_parkdmesg says: saa7134[0] : i2c eeprom 10: 00 f0 04 04 ff 20 ff ff ff.....06:15
rand_acs_BluesKaj: no06:16
KeinNone of them are muted.06:16
KeinIt plays sounds when the jack's out and doesn't when it's in.06:16
KeinLike porn, but in reverse.06:16
poison--ahahahahahahhaha06:16
KeinThere's not even an option to choose the headphone jack for sounds. =/06:17
poison--dats weird tho06:17
KeinMaster, PCM, Capture.06:17
KeinNone are muted.06:17
poison--weird06:17
poison--whats the card brand06:17
ksivaji!ratpoison06:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ratpoison - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:17
linkin_parkyour headset doesnt work?06:17
poison--lol06:17
KeinNot at all.06:18
KeinUm, lemme see.06:18
linkin_parki got the same problem but its just if my headset is in the front output06:18
KeinHDA ATI SD06:18
poison--just a sec06:18
KeinThere's no option to change that and there's only one headphone jack.06:18
poison--is it a ati chipset based mobo06:18
KeinDunno.06:18
KeinChip = Realtek ID 86206:18
poison--are u on  alaptop06:19
KeinYes.06:19
BluesKajrand_acs_, try to install synaptic with apt if possible , it has a fix broken pkges feature in it's edit option ..sometimes it works very well.06:19
poison--just a sec06:19
poison--tested kubuntu with asus and acer atis mobos.. worked fine06:19
rand_acs_BluesKaj: thanks for the tip, I'll try it out :)06:19
KeinUsing 6.06, right?06:19
poison--no, 7.0406:19
KeinThere you go.06:19
KeinHow am I supposed to update?  I've got a CD here but no idea how to make the dist-upgrade point at it.06:20
linkin_parkhda_codec: Unknown model for ALC880, trying auto-probe from BIOS. o.O06:20
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poison--kein, think u only need to update the kernel06:20
poison--but than again, i dunno much06:20
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poison--its realtek06:20
KeinThe kernel's updated as far as I can, to my knowledge.06:21
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linkin_parkpoison can you help me with my tv card :D06:21
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poison--linkin, just a sec06:21
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poison--linkin_park06:23
linkin_parkye06:23
poison--do a lspci and past me the result in pm06:23
linkin_parkok06:23
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poison--kein, i have the 2.6.20.1606:25
linkin_park!help06:26
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:26
KeinAlright.06:26
linkin_parkdamn how to register xDD06:26
KeinHow do I update?  Sorry if I'm debian-dumb; I'm far more used to working with Windows despite not really liking it.06:27
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poison--open adept06:27
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poison--search for: linux-headers 2.6.20.16, , linux-headers 2.6.20.16, generic06:28
poison--linux-image-2.6.20.16 and linux-image-2.6.20.16 generic06:29
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poison--linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20.16 and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20.16-generic06:30
luke403does any one know how to adjust my nvidia color settings after i installed nvidia settings06:30
poison--dat should do it i guess06:30
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linkin_parkxconfig06:31
linkin_parko.O06:31
poison--lmao06:31
poison--i wish i could setup the video card in this laptop06:31
luke403how do u do x config06:32
poison--try the system configs06:32
linkin_parkregister olchi06:32
poison--!ati06:33
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:33
poison--:D06:33
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rand_acs_poison--: you might want to check out Envy, that worked *very* well for me06:35
stdin!envy06:35
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!06:35
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poison--rand_acs, its a VIA laptop06:35
rand_acs_it works for ATI and nVidia06:35
poison--with S3 Unichrome06:36
rand_acs_well, it's worked on 3 machines for me without any issues06:36
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Keinpoison, would it just be easier to just try to install Edgy on this?06:37
stdin"works for me" is not a valid reason to tell others to use something, just ask ubotu06:37
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poison--Rise_agaist06:37
Rise_Againstyea06:38
poison--seems im not reged.. so i cant talk in pm06:38
poison--lmao06:38
Rise_Againstdo this: /msg nickserv register <your-password>06:38
Rise_Againstbut private :P06:38
poison--weird.. it should show saa7134 and saa7134-alsa06:38
Rise_Againsthmm06:39
rand_acs_btw, if you have beryl installed and you want to install compiz-fusion is it best to uninstall beryl completely before hand?06:39
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poison--why in da hell would u want to unistall beryl...06:39
poison--lmao06:39
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stdinrand_acs_: yeah06:39
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rand_acs_poison--: because as far as I understand compiz-fusion has more features06:40
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FSHeroHi all: I want to move photos that I have tagged with digiKam to another folder, without losing the tags. How would I go about this?06:48
KeinAlright, I think I'm going to update to Edgy then Feisty.06:49
KeinOr can I just go straight to Feisty?06:49
stdinKein: no, you have to follow the releases06:49
KeinAlright.06:50
KeinHow do I update to Edgy, then?06:50
stdinKein: you'll have to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades#head-d8c4cd1dd987e54723fef2760b37f9279487551f06:51
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KeinAlright.06:54
blizzzekis it possible that konqueror ignores a defined style with !important-attribute in the default css, when the website's css file is overloading it?06:54
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stdinblizzzek: #kde would be a better place to ask that06:59
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poison--crap06:59
poison--my first freeze in 2 weeks06:59
blizzzekstdin: thx07:00
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ironfroggyI just downloaded the Fiesty desktop CD and I'm getting a kernel panic when i run it. "Invalid compressed format (err=2)"07:03
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NickPrestaironfroggy, based on my google research, that probably means your CD drive isn't reading the CD properly. I suggest you burn the image on a CD-R at the slowest speed possible.07:05
ironfroggyill run the cd check to be sure.07:06
poison--!envy07:06
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!07:06
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NickPrestaironfroggy, yeah, for sure. If you search google with that error, you get lots of potential reasons. See if you fit into one situation07:06
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ironfroggyi just wanna make sure the disk is gonna work, and then im making my wife install it herself this time. its high time she learn herself.07:07
NickPrestaheh. I understand. A "broken" CD would certainly turn her off, yeah.07:08
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ironfroggyugh.. i cant run the  check. because i get a kernel panic.07:11
ironfroggyill double check it here against the ISO.07:12
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ironfroggyyes she is very good with what she knows but freezes when she sees what she doesn't know. im thinking making her do things like this will teach her to stop bugging me :-07:13
ironfroggy:-)07:13
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seanpcrowehey peeps...07:14
NickPresta!hi | seanpcrowe07:14
ubotuseanpcrowe: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:14
KeinWTF?07:14
KeinI can't run a gksu command...07:14
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NickPrestaKein, are you on Kubuntu? If so, it's kdesu.07:15
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stdingksu = gnome, kdesu = kfr07:15
seanpcrowei have bought a Pinnicle USB 71e tuner card... and i have no idea how to get it to work in kubuntu lol07:15
KeinOh, thanks man.07:15
stdinkde*07:15
seanpcrowecan anyone point me in the direction to go to try and get it working?07:15
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KeinShould've realized that frmo the "g" there.07:15
Kein... D=07:16
stdinironfroggy: you can check the mk5sum of the burnt image with "md5sum /dev/scd0" (changing scd0 to your cdrom device)07:16
seanpcroweits a DVB stick btw...07:16
seanpcrowemmm, can i probe my USB array to see if kubuntu can actually see it???07:17
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KeinI tried it and this is what happened...07:17
Kein#07:17
Kein#07:17
KeinXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server07:17
Kein#07:17
KeinXlib: No protocol specified07:17
NickPrestaseanpcrowe, would your device be the same as a Pinnacle PCTV USB DBV-T receiver?07:17
Kein...07:17
Keinshit07:17
Keinsorry07:17
Keinthought I copypasted the pastebin url07:17
kduboisseanpcrowe: check with  #linuxtv or #dvb to see if it has support07:18
Keinhttp://pastebin.ca/68730307:18
NickPrestaseanpcrowe, check out: http://www.2nrds.com/digital-tv-in-linux-with-em28xx-devices07:18
stdinKein: and watch the language too07:18
seanpcrowe<NickPresta> seanpcrowe, would your device be the same as a Pinnacle PCTV USB DBV-T receiver? <----- yes it is07:18
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NickPrestaseanpcrowe, check out: http://www.2nrds.com/digital-tv-in-linux-with-em28xx-devices07:19
seanpcrowekdubois, ok, thanks for them channels =)07:19
Keinsorry, it's almost reflexive07:19
seanpcroweNickPresta, ok dude thanks for the link... checking it out now...07:19
KeinI try to watch it <_>07:19
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Keinkdesu is saying that the update manager command doesn't exit.07:20
Kein*exist07:20
stdinagain, that's for gnome, look down 07:21
Keinoh07:21
Keinokay07:21
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stdinKein: the upgrade to feisty will be easier, getting to edgy's the challenge07:22
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poison--woot07:23
ironfroggyanyone know of a decent tool to verify a cd checksum on windows?07:23
KeinAlright.07:23
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stdinironfroggy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#head-cc4057205f46f3da4e36ee1974c50c51bd89ed2407:23
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ironfroggythat only shows how i can check the ISO checksum07:25
ironfroggyi cant find anything that will verify the CD itself07:26
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stdinironfroggy: I think some cd-burning apps can check the md5sum, maybe nero, but I don't know.07:27
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ironfroggyyeah i found the checkbox07:28
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BluesKajironfroggy, better to ask in ##windows07:34
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ironfroggyeh, yeah that place is crap.07:34
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Kein;/07:34
kkathmanno it really isnt ironfroggy07:35
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BluesKajK3B does a checksum on ISO files07:35
kkathmansome very knowledgeable people there in both windows and linux :)07:35
msoinii have a problem with K3b, or at leas that's what I think is fouling up07:35
ironfroggykkathman: well i never have any luck finding a decent human being there.07:35
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ironfroggymaybe i just had bad timing.07:35
msoinitakes forever to start it, then it disables my dvdr07:36
kkathmanironfroggy:  well I dont know what your standards are, but quux is top notch07:36
ironfroggychannels loose it when people just get ignored.07:36
kkathmanand there are some really good administrators there07:36
msoinioh yeah, i'm really, really new to linux07:36
BluesKajmsoini, mp3 burning ?07:36
msoinino07:36
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msoinican't burn anything07:37
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msoinii ran the 64 bit version of kubuntu for the last 4-5 months, swithced to the 32 biit yesterday07:37
msoini*bit07:37
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BluesKajcan you play dvds ?07:38
will_Hey07:38
msoiniyes07:38
will_How do I unlock more repositories again?07:38
msoinibut as soon as i launch k3b my dvd drive "locks up"07:38
will_Im in the package manager but dont have much to download07:38
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stdin!repos07:38
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:38
BluesKajwill_, you want to add more repositories for more packages ?07:39
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ksivajiBluesKaj my system hangs when i start games ,where i can see the bug report07:39
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BluesKajksivaji, start the game from the Konsole07:40
will_yes07:40
will_I would like to install some music software like audacity07:40
ksivajiwill_ are you dr_wills07:40
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will_uhhhh hahaha07:41
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will_Im studying computer science but Im not dr07:41
will_Dr love maybe :P07:41
ksivajiwill_  i saw a person with nick dr_wills07:41
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will_Def not me07:42
ksivajiwill_  ya because dr_wills is smart07:43
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ksivajiBluesKaj but my mouse and keyboard doesnt works when i start game how can i see the dug report07:44
BluesKajok will_ we need to add more repositories to your sources.list ..alt+F2 copy and paste this into the dialog box ' kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list '  , then open this URL http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/07:44
ScorpKingi have all the repos enabled. if i install someting lik xmms i get 'Untrusted packages could compromise your system's security.' - why?07:44
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BluesKajksivaji, the errors should be generated in the konsole when you start the game07:45
stdinScorpKing: try running "sudo apt-get update"07:45
ScorpKingok07:45
ksivajistdin ya are the right person for my question07:45
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stdinksivaji: I'd say do what BluesKaj suggests07:46
ksivajimy system hang whenever i start games  (except for open arena ) why >07:46
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BluesKajwill_, follow the instructions on source-o-matic and keep the page open07:46
ksivajistdin is there any log file where i can find the reason for hanging07:47
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stdinksivaji: you need to look at the output from the game07:47
ksivajistdin i cant get you07:48
FSHero!K3B07:48
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto07:48
stdinksivaji, start the game from the Konsole07:48
arnold_Hello, I'm new to kubuntu/ubuntu. I did only about 5 installations. On one of my machines with an nvidia geforce4 I have always the same problem. Where can I discuss something like that?07:48
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stdinksivaji, start the game like "game-command & > game.log" then the output will go in to "game.log" so you can look at it07:50
BluesKajwill_, we're going to replace the old sources list with new text and new repositories , so once you generated the new sources.list on the page , delete the text in the old page and copy and paste the text from the source-o-matic page into the blank sources.list and click save.07:50
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BluesKajwill_, the sudo apt-get update07:51
BluesKajwill_, are you there ?07:51
NickPrestaarnold_, you can describe your problem fully here, but if the problem is too long or requires text examples, you can use a pastebin.07:51
NickPresta!pastebin | arnold_07:51
ubotuarnold_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:51
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arnold_after the installation the x-server starts normally. then, when I install the nvidia driver and use the nvidia-glx-config enable command the x-server does not start. The reason is a wrond busID before the installtion it is 1:0:0 afterwards it is changed to 0:5:0. if I change the busid everything is ok. Do you thing this is only a problem on my machine or something worth for a general bug report?07:55
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stdinarnold_: you should probably report it, just in case.07:57
ironfroggyi cant find a spare blank CD or a CD-RW i can blank. can i burn the CD ISO to a DVD? cause i've got more of those than i know what to do with.07:57
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sivaji_stdin blueskaj  once again same thing i got some error message in konsole but i cant read that because vdrift games windows is covering konsole07:58
stdinironfroggy: yeah, you just have to tell the application you're burning a dvd iso (not a cd iso)07:58
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stdinksivaji, start the game like "game-command & > game.log" then the output will go in to "game.log" so you can look at it07:58
ironfroggyeven if i have is the actual CD ISO?07:58
stdinironfroggy: yep07:59
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BluesKajsivaji_, sorry , i'm not a gamer so i really have no experience to help you07:59
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stdinksivaji, like "game-command &> game.log"  (no space after '&')07:59
ksivajistdin ok08:00
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poison--envy its only fr ati and nvidia guys08:00
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poison--and dats a question08:00
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BluesKajis the envy driver install working in feisty ?08:01
sea4everHow do I change my quit message in Konversation?08:01
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poison--BluesKaj>, didnt tried it ati or nvidia08:02
BluesKajsea4ever, look in settings/configure konversation08:02
poison--was hopping it fixes my s3 card08:02
stdinsea4ever: F8 > advanced08:02
ironfroggyoh, dang, i forgot i cant use a dvd. the target box only has CD-ROMs08:02
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sea4everGot it thanks08:05
sea4everToday's theme : Samaurai Ninja08:05
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amnesiac_hackershai folks08:08
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sea4everhello08:10
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devianceHow can i change what folders are in my system menu08:15
NickPrestadeviance, you can right click on a menu item and then click "Edit Menu". You can organize the KMenu all you want08:17
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tobias_uhoh - I was about to press enter with the same information08:18
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tobias_you beat me to it :)08:18
Random832why can't kpowersave manage the display brightness?08:18
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devianceNot the Kmenu the system menu of places like home08:18
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NickPrestadeviance, Home, Storage Places, Remote Places, User Folders. That menu?08:19
devianceYeah08:19
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sea4everI'm goe08:19
sea4everBye!08:19
tobias_byebye08:19
NickPrestadeviance, I'm not sure you can. It's an applet so I don't know if it can be edited easily.08:20
devianceOOk thanks08:20
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NickPrestadeviance, it belongs to kicker, so you might have better luck on their forums or channel08:21
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tininHi, I need to compile something, and inside there'a a file called "qflv2avi.pro", How do I use it?08:23
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NickPrestatinin, have you ever compiled software before?08:24
tininyes08:24
tininbut this does not seem like "./configure && make && sudocheckinstall"08:25
tininmaybe I need to use cmake?08:25
NickPrestatinin, did you get this from the kde-apps.org website?08:25
tininyeah08:25
NickPrestatinin, let me see what I can do08:25
tininbut nothing explained there08:25
tininscons?08:26
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tininI just found this easy gui to convert flv to avi, I need it to see some films on the dvdplayer in divx08:28
tininI hope it works08:28
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TraXDoes anybody know the package I need so that I can connect to the internet with my pda via bluetooth?08:29
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stdindeviance: just add a link to the place you want to ~/.kde/share/apps/systemview/ (or /usr/share/apps/systemview/ for all users)08:31
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spirooHi, does anybody knew the exact changes from Gutsy Tribe 4 and Tribe 508:33
spiroo*know08:33
NickPrestatinin, in the qflv2avi-0.4 folder, do this: `qmake -project`, then `qmake qflv2avi.pro`, then `make`. It should work just fine.08:33
stdinbug fixes08:33
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tininThanx NickPresta, I had no idea08:34
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spiroostdin: like what?08:34
NickPrestatinin, you need to install the 'qt4-designer' package, I believe08:34
spiroosound, monitor, boot?08:35
stdinspiroo: just general bug fixes08:35
NickPrestatinin, since I don't have it installed and when I try to `make`, I get an error about not having version 4.008:35
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spirooI guess the error when you boot and the monitor starts to blink. You press ctr+alt+f1 and then change tty and then wola you got in08:35
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tininI'll do <NickPresta>08:36
spirooThat has been fixed, and the resolution08:36
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NickPrestatinin, if that doesn't work, I'm out of ideas. It may be better to ask on the kde-apps page08:36
spiroobtw, one darn annoying thing is when you upgrade kernel it does not remove the other previous one in grub. How to fix?08:36
newonedhi i just did some updates and now ktorrent is giveing me "cannot talk to klauncher" error message....is there a fix?08:37
NickPrestaspiroo, uninstall the other kernel08:37
newonedu can edit the grub list08:37
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stdinspiroo: that's not a bug..08:37
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spiroohehe okay, how to fix then?08:37
NickPrestaspiroo, uninstall the previous kernel08:37
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spiroosudo grub update?08:37
stdinspiroo: remove the older kernel package08:37
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stdinnewoned: try running "klauncher"08:38
spiroobut it is different ones like header, kernel, main, restricted. Which to remove so the linux still works after08:38
TraX!bluetooth08:38
TraX! bluetooth08:38
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup08:38
spirooNow I am installing 2.6.22-11, why does it not remove the previous one?08:39
KeinI'm getting a lot of perl errors while updating kubuntu...08:39
GInany way to put a "close button" on each tab in Konqueror?08:39
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stdinspiroo: because you can (and should) have more than one kernel version installed08:39
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spiroobecause?08:39
stdinKein: that should pass08:39
Keinit's not, I'm getting a lot of locale errors ;/08:40
Keinthey pop up fairly frequently, like once every couple of minutes08:40
stdinspiroo: incase something doesn't work in the newer one08:40
spirooOkay then, but how to remove the other ones from grub?08:40
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ShaneNHello08:40
stdinspiroo: I told you, remove the old package08:40
ShaneNAfter changing the computer name, does the machine require rebooting?08:40
Kein...wtf08:40
spirooah okay, yea it is probably good to not remove the previous ones ;)08:40
stdinShaneN: yep08:40
Keinit failed on unpacking the linux image08:40
ShaneNstdin: Thanks08:40
spirooAh tanks for clarifying that08:40
Keinrepeatedly08:40
tininno luck NickPresta: $ make08:41
tinin/usr/share/qt3/bin/uic src/configview.ui -o build/configview.h08:41
tininuic: File generated with too recent version of Qt Designer (4.0 vs. 3.3.7)08:41
tininmake: *** [build/configview.h]  Error 108:41
stdinKein: yeah, they should stop after the updates are almost done08:41
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stdin!paste | tinin08:41
ubotutinin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:41
NickPresta!pastebin | tinin08:41
tinin:S08:41
NickPrestatinin, you didn't install qt4-designer, did you?08:41
spirooBtw, I wonder does anybody now if you can install utorrent in linux, I do not wanna use KTorrent, it f***s up my router and internet08:41
tininI know pastebin sorry, I was lazy for 3 lines08:41
GInfinally got my kubuntu looks better :) http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1bi9.png08:41
NickPrestaspiroo, I used utorrent in Wine for a while.08:42
tininyeah <NickPresta>08:42
stdintinin: 4 actually :p08:42
spiroocool, but is there not anyone in linux?08:42
NickPrestatinin, and the associated -dev packages?  libpq-dev libqt4-dev libsqlite0-dev08:42
spirooI find Azureus and BitComet08:42
spirooBut azureus which is a good one does not work correct08:42
NickPrestaGIn, nice looking desktop, although I'm not very fond of the docks at the bottom.08:42
stdintinin: if it's a Qt4 app, you'll need to use qmake-qt4 instead of just qmake08:42
Biovoreyup08:43
Keinthat reminds me of the windows shell replacements ;/08:43
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GInNickPresta, I like it :)08:43
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NickPrestastdin, oh. Thanks for that. I've never used qmake before. heh08:43
kaminix2Anyone here good with ddclient? I can't get mine working. (PM prefereble due to large pastes required)08:43
tininyeah08:43
tininIt is a qt4 app, Ill try stdin08:43
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jrattnerHow do I rotate the desktop cube using beryl?08:44
GInNickPresta, this is how my konqueror is. http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot2zk9.png08:45
tininso would it be like this? qmake-qt4 -project`, `qmake-qt4 qflv2avi.pro`, then  `make stdin?08:45
NickPrestaGIn, I would love to swap pictures with you. Perhaps we should continue this in #kubuntu-offtopic :)08:45
stdintinin: should be, yeah08:46
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BluesKajIs there a script for auto loading irc servers into konverstion? I'd like konversation much better if thewre was such a feature , xchat and other irc clients manage to do it , why not konversation ?08:47
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spirooWhen I tryng to start Azureus it does not start, anybody have similar problem like me?08:47
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Biovorespiroo: probably a java problem..08:48
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spirooBiovore: What could be wrong about java then?08:49
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Biovoreno clue.. I don't use azureus anymore..08:49
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Biovore?08:49
caris_mereI need a little help getting a partition onto my fstab08:49
spirooAzureus has been working before in Linux, but version 2.5.0 does nto work08:50
spirooAzureus starts loading, but the logo and load bar does not dissapear and then launch application.08:51
tininahhrgg  I'll stick with qt3 app for the moment :S  It gives me errors while doing make NickPresta, stdin thanx anyway08:51
spirooBiovore: Can you recommend another bittorrent client?08:51
BluesKajspiroo, make sure you have java-common and j2re1.4 as a mininmum08:51
spirooBluesKaj: I have it installed08:52
BluesKajktorrent works well08:52
NickPrestatinin, truthfully, the app seems superfluous. `ffmpeg -i video.flv video.avi` works fine08:52
Biovorespiroo: I use ktorrent..08:52
spirooktorrent does not work well with my router :D08:52
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Biovoreprobably isn't setup right..08:52
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llutzspiroo: fix your setup08:52
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spirooNo that is not the problem08:52
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BluesKajspiroo , you have to port map your router with any P2P software08:52
spirooMy router/internet got hanging up after a while08:53
spirooIt works downloading and open ports08:53
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spirooBut after a while the connection just dies and screw up my internet08:53
tinin<NickPresta> I do almost everything by gui, I don't like black terminals XD but I'll learn ffmpeg comands...08:54
BluesKajlook at the required port settings in the torrent client and use the tcp/udp port settings they recommend08:54
llutzspiroo: then limit the max connections, seems to cause an overflow in your routers  connection-table08:54
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mkasterhey guys08:54
tinin<spiroo> Deluge torrent is great too08:54
spiroohmm okay, where to setup max connections then?08:54
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mkasterwhere be the standby and suspend?08:55
spiroonvm08:55
spirooBut why would 120 connections be to much per torrent?08:55
spirooDoes anybody knew what the max connections for linksys WRT54G is?08:55
NickPrestaspiroo, KTorrent is great. Earlier versions had a couple problems but more recent versions are just as good as any other torrent. It's also nice being integrated into KDE too.08:56
BluesKajkeeps the client to busy08:56
BluesKajtoo08:56
BiovoreIts linux.. so alot.. but the more connections you got.. its going to lag your net connection bad..08:56
mkasterWhere is suspend and standby?08:56
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spiroois 50 per torrent and global connections 500 good setting?08:56
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Biovorespiroo: I ussualy only do 10 per torrent08:57
Biovorespiroo: 50 global08:57
spirooheh okay, I test that then :P08:57
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Biovorespiroo: But you must remember your transfer speeds have to do with whos uploading..08:58
NickPrestaspiroo, try something like: http://www.utorrent.com/setup_guide.php08:58
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jerroldhello all - im new to linux/kubuntu...i have compiz-fusion working..but when i run compiz -- replace..i lose all my window decorations...google doesnt give me any obvious fixes for "kubuntu compiz window decorations"  ..any guidance would be appreciated09:00
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spiroookay thanks09:00
mkasterwhat it nvram?09:01
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stdinjerrold: make sure you installed compiz-kde, like it says here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion09:01
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logixoulHi, how do I downgrade a package in adept?09:02
stdinlogixoul: you can't in adept09:02
nivix_s polacy?09:03
stdin!pl09:03
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl09:03
logixoulstdin: ok, apt then? :)09:03
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llutzmkaster: Non Volatile Random Access Memory09:03
stdinlogixoul: apt-get install <package>=version09:03
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logixoulstdin: can I get a list of available versions somehow?09:04
mkasterwhy does it say it cannot read the nvram in my IBM Thinkpad Laptop tab of the laptop power options?09:04
stdinlogixoul: not easily, maybe with "apt-cache policy <package>" or "aptitude changelog <package>"09:04
mkasterI have a thinkpad09:04
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Rawthanghello dudes09:05
logixoulstdin: that works, thanks.09:05
ironfroggymight it be a bad sign that i burnt the cd twice on two different cd-rw's and neither one would verify after write?09:05
llutzmkaster: you maybe need to install the thinkpad-module09:05
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Rawthangcan anyone tell me the command to know witch wifi card i have on my laptop ?09:05
llutzRawthang: lspci09:05
Rawthangthx09:06
stdin!wifi09:06
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:06
Rawthangi ll check that ;)09:06
mkasterllutz can you help me find the module? Right now this is my only resource for finding info for my thinkpad: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T2209:06
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llutzmkaster: sorry, it's long ago that i used a thinkpad with linux, but try this: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki09:07
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mkasterllutz I am using that site09:07
mkasterwhere would it be? I have this page open: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T2209:07
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llutzoops, read too late,sry09:08
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lukhi09:08
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llutzmkaster: shows "lsmod|grep nvram" an output?09:09
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mkasterllutz what do you mean?09:10
mkasterdo that command?09:10
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llutzmkaster:open a console and type this command: "lsmod|grep nvram"09:10
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Krumcan anyone direct me to the winehq irc channel?09:10
stdin#winehq09:11
mkasternvram                   9224  109:11
Krumty09:11
mkasterthat is what I get09:11
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bitlosthas anyone's power manager gone crazy? mine keeps switching between plugged and unplugged with no reason for that...09:11
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lukcan i make a question?09:12
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stdin!ask09:12
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ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:12
ch40sanyone here run linux MCE?09:12
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mkasterit says on the config if I have a thinkpad to load the nvram linux module but I don't know how yet09:12
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mkasterand to create a node09:13
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stdin!nickspam > rob-`09:13
lukthere's  an effect in kubuntu 7.0409:13
llutzmkaster: the nvram-module is already loaded. "ls -l /dev/nvram"09:13
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lukwhen i press an icon09:13
lukI would want to know the name of that effect09:13
lukand if i use that on debian09:14
luk(with kde naturally)09:14
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rob-`(huh .. I thought I hadn't joined this channel before changing my nick several times)09:14
mkastercrw-rw---- 1 root root 10, 144 2007-09-08 14:51 /dev/nvram   is the output of that command09:14
stdinluk: they'll probably know in #kubuntu-devel09:14
llutzmkaster: different problem but similar solution, try to follow http://blog.frith.co.za/?cat=1309:15
mkasteralso another problem is I cannot standby or suspend09:15
jackolanyone tried the kde 4b2 with success (feisty)? All i got was pretty weird desktop (bottom bar had nothing) and no apps nowhere, is this how it's atm?09:15
llutzmkaster: that part with the udev-rule09:15
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stdinjackol: that's the way it is09:16
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jackolok, the screenshot(or were they mockups) had more in them, so I's just wondering.09:17
BluesKajjackol, that was prolly plasma , it seems to be the default "desktop explorer" in kde409:17
jackolhttp://kde.org/announcements/announce_4.0-beta2/desktop-plasma-small.png09:17
stdinjackol: it's because the package with the launcher wasn't released with the beta09:17
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jackolok, thx09:18
BluesKajstdin, now why would they hold back the launcher app ?09:18
stdinBluesKaj: because it's in playground09:19
stdinBluesKaj: only in svn09:19
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stdinit'll eventually be merged with kdebase (i think, it may be a separate package)09:20
BluesKajno wonder it wouldn't work on my pc :)09:20
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mkasterllutz in that link it says to setup custom rules in this file: /etc/udev/rules.d/50-user-custom.rules but I do not have that file09:20
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BluesKajI still don't understand svn , is it some kind of special repos site ?09:21
llutzmkaster: create it09:21
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BluesKaj!svn09:21
ubotusvn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/09:21
RichardBH!cvs09:22
ubotucvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/09:22
AngelusBluesKaj: its live "svn co http://bla.bla.com/blabla/kvirc" it will download kvirc's source code09:22
RichardBHhi - can anyone suggest a good msn client that supports custom emoticons?09:22
stdinRichardBH: kopete09:23
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Angelususually its the developer's source09:23
RichardBHstdin: cant add my own ones though09:23
mkasterthis should be one line: KERNEL=="nvram", MODE="0664"   llutz09:23
Angelusthey upload there work everyday on the svn repo09:23
stdinRichardBH: why not?09:23
mkastercorrect?09:23
llutzmkaster: yes09:23
BiovoreAngelus: I am using kvirc svn here built for QT409:23
RichardBHstdin: i didnt know there was a way09:23
Angelusme too Biovore09:23
Angelus:)09:23
RichardBHstdin: coudlnt find anything in the documentation09:24
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stdinRichardBH: look in kopete's settings you can import them, or put them in ~/.kde/share/emoticons/09:25
RichardBHand can other people see them if i send them?09:25
RichardBHlike someone on WLM09:25
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mkasterI forget, how do I run commands as root?09:26
stdinRichardBH: yeah, if you give it to them09:26
stdin!sudo | mkaster09:26
ubotumkaster: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.09:26
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mcquaidI installed b2 but was left with a fairly non functional desktop.  are there some tweaks that have to be done?09:27
stdinmcquaid: no, that's what b2 is09:27
shadowhywinddoes anyone know  where the image files are stored for the icons that get displayed in the system panel?09:27
Biovoremcquaid: well its a developers beta.. that doesn't mean it works yet.09:27
mcquaidok09:27
stdinshadowhywind: in /usr/share/icons09:28
shadowhywindthanks!09:28
FlatfenderI have Compiz installed, but I don't have the 3D desktop or the wobbly windows or anything. Could there be something I'm missing?09:28
RichardBHstdin: any idea where in kopetes settings? :$09:28
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stdinRichardBH: Appearance > Emoticons09:29
RichardBHstdin: i can see buttons for 'themes', but nothing for single emoticons/your own ones09:30
stdinRichardBH: "themes" are emoticons09:30
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shadowhywindok since i couldn't find the icon i was looking for, in the system tray, I am trying to get them to display in 2 rows, instead of just one. And i can't figure out why.. any ideas?09:31
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RichardBHstdin: dont worry if you dont know/there isnt a way, but if i have a .gif animated file, do i just import it as a 'theme'? or are themes more like packages of multiple emoticons?09:32
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stdinRichardBH: if you just want to add a single one, choose an already installed them and choose "Edit", then you can replace one (or add one) to use that image09:33
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fulat2khi folks, i'm using feisty and have installed kde4 beta2.  however, the entire desktop seems broken i.e. panels are empty, desktop is unusable.  is there anything i've missed?  followed the instructions in kubuntu.org09:35
RichardBHstdin: ok, thanks - now to trakc down why none of my drives are mounted...09:35
sven_oostenbrinkHi there, I am having some problem with apt-get update, and there was this very quick but complex solution for it, one of the bots could tell me with the right command.. anybody knows what I am talking about?09:35
sven_oostenbrinkgiven error by apt-get is ""The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened09:36
sven_oostenbrinkand with some one complex bash line this could be fixed IIRC09:36
mkasterin my system services it says acpid is not running ut it is supposed to run on boot09:36
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christoffernorsHi. When i attach my external monitor to my laptop the image shows up fine. But when i wanna play a movie it's just a black screen in all other video players than totem. Anyone know how to solve this?09:36
mkastermay this be the reason I cannot standby or suspend?09:36
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llutzmkaster: sudo modprobe ibm-acpi09:36
llutzmkaster: yes, without working acpi no suspend09:37
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llutz(in many other cases: no suspend inspite of working acpi :((( )09:37
RichardBHstdin: although there doesnt seem to be an 'edit' button anywhere...09:38
mkasterit still says it isnt running09:38
llutzmkaster: sudo modprobe ibm_acpi09:38
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llutzmkaster: sudo /etc/init.d/acpi start09:38
stdinRichardBH: like http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4673/image15ox7.png09:39
mkastersudo: /etc/init.d/acpi: command not found09:39
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llutzmkaster: sudo /etc/init.d/acpid start09:39
llutzmkaster: sudo /etc/init.d/acpi-support start09:40
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RichardBHstdin: i have no 'edit theme' button there - is that the standard Kopete that comes with Kubuntu, or is it a newer/patched version?09:40
sven_oostenbrinkAnybody on the fixing apt-get thing?09:41
stdinRichardBH: well I have version 4:3.5.7-2ubuntu109:41
stdin!aptfix | sven_oostenbrink09:42
ubotusven_oostenbrink: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:42
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sven_oostenbrinkstdin, That wqas the one! thanks! :)09:42
ScorpKingdwidmann: you here?09:43
mkasterit still says its not running in the system services09:43
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mkasterand there are no suspend, standby or hibernate buttons09:43
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mkasterwhen I rand the commands this is what I got llutz but it still says it isnt running in the system services09:45
mkastermasterk@theKtop:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/acpid start09:45
mkaster * Loading ACPI modules...                                               [ ok ] 09:45
mkaster * Starting ACPI services...                                                    masterk@theKtop:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/acpi-support start09:45
mkaster * Checking battery state...                                             [ ok ] 09:45
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KeinAlright, Edgy is up and running.09:45
jhutchinsmkaster: You might consider the Advanced Power Control Interface - apci.09:45
KeinNow to learn how to update to Feisty.09:45
RichardBHstdin: ah, thats it then - i have 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu909:45
llutzjhutchins: thats what he tries09:45
jhutchinsmkaster: The other one is the Advanced Programmable Interupt Controller - apic.09:45
jhutchinsSpelling counts.09:45
RichardBHstdin: any idea how to get the newer one? (linux newbie :$)09:45
stdinRichardBH: comes with kde 3.5.709:46
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mkasterI need help on getting suspend and standby to work because otherwise it really isn't a laptop...09:46
Keinmkaster: there are options in Power Management, IIRC.09:47
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mkasterwhere is the power management?09:47
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ian_I'm trying to configure a keyboard layout under KDE called colemak, I had it working under gnome but there is no option for it in the keyboard layout settings09:48
KeinNot sure, actually.  Try checking the battery icon.09:48
KeinKLaptop, I thinkk.09:48
Kein*thinkk09:48
Kein..09:48
Kein*THINK09:48
ian_where does KDE get its list of available keyboad layouts if not from the X config?09:48
winbondcan i save my virtual machine, then install workstation instead of the server and just load my saved VM??  or will i have to set it up from scratch?09:49
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masterkokay guys, when I clicked suspend, it suspended but I was unable to get out, so I powered off manually. Then I clicked standby and it filckered the screen for about 30 seconds then showed the desktop where it took another 30 seconds or so to let me move the mouse or preass anything then it popped up and said cpu overload...10:01
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masterkcan anyone help?10:02
masterkllutz are you still there? Do you have any idea?10:02
llutzmasterk: thats what i meant. working acpi does not mean that suspend/resume works. i gave that thing up, long time ago10:03
combiniowhere are kept all binary files ??10:03
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masterkHmm...10:03
masterkSO does anyonehave a fully working Thinkpad T22?10:03
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llutzmasterk: in most cases it's an issue of network (wlan) or video drivers. on your t22 it sounds more like a general acpi-problem10:04
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masterkyeah I fixed the other issues10:05
masterkthis is the only one I haven't and I really want to be able to standby10:06
masterkit takes too long to startup10:06
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llutzmasterk: resuming from disk takes nearly the same time like booting fresh on my Samsung X20 with 1GB RAM10:07
masterkwell I don't have the money to get a fancy new laptop :D10:07
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masterkwanna buy me one?10:07
masterkjust kidding10:07
llutzmasterk: even a new laptop doesn't mean that suspending works10:07
billytwowillyso I've got a new hard drive and I want to format the whole thing with reiserfs. How should I go about this?10:08
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masterkMy old laptop which was better than this had no issues at all right from the start... I wish I still had it10:08
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RichardBHi currently have KDE3.5.6, which came with kubuntu - how can i upgrade to 3.5.7, when adept is telling me kde isnt installed?10:10
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NickPrestaRichardBH, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php10:10
RichardBHNickPresta: danke10:11
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caris_mereI can't get one of my partitions to show up in /media10:11
coreymon77caris_mere: WHICH ONE10:12
coreymon77caris_mere: oops10:12
coreymon77sorry, didnt know caps was on10:12
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combiniowhere are kept all binary files ??10:12
combiniocan someone tell me that ?10:12
caris_merecoreymon77: it is a FAT32 partition that I created after installation10:12
coreymon77is it mounted?10:12
llutzcombinio: which binaries?10:12
kaminix2billytwowilly: mkfs.reiserfs /dev/<devicename> will make your device reiserfs...10:12
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coreymon77caris_mere: is it mounted10:13
combiniollutz: ee.... binares that if u put in console eg gimp - then gimp is launching10:13
combinioi mean such binares10:13
caris_merecoreymon77: I can't tell...because in QTparted it is called sda5, but when I try to mount sda5, it says it is /10:13
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coreymon77combinio: /usr/bin10:14
llutzcombinio:/bin, /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin10:14
coreymon77exactly10:14
coreymon77because you are mounting sda5 to /10:14
billytwowillykaminix2: how do I make a partition? qtparted and the kde stuff won't let me.10:14
coreymon77you have to mount it to somewhere else10:14
llutzcombinio: for root additional the sbin/10:14
combiniollutz: and what is difference between /usr/local/bin and /usr/bin ? i just want to know where pu hereos3 binares files :D10:14
stofferis there any good fw software for ubuntu?? Im looking for something that can drop incomming traffic when my services is not running but allows it when they are up...10:15
llutzcombinio: its not part of distro, so put it into /usr/local10:15
kaminix2billytwowilly: fdisk is a good program imo. but first you have to umount it. sudo umount /dev/devicename10:15
combiniollutz: ok then, thanks a lot :)10:15
caris_merecoreymon77: how would I do that?10:15
billytwowillykaminix2: it's not mounted10:15
titanix88is there any practical purpose of having so many file systems in linux except for ext2/3?can i use them normally?advantages?10:15
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coreymon77caris_mere: well10:16
kaminix2billytwowilly: What error is qparted giving you?10:16
billytwowillykaminix2: when I do a fdisk /dev/hdd I get a "Unable to read /dev/hdd"10:16
coreymon77caris_mere: first make the folder that you want to mount it to10:16
caris_merecoreymon77: did that10:16
billytwowillykaminix2: it just doesn't let me do anything to the disk.10:16
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coreymon77caris_mere: okay10:16
kaminix2billytwowilly: Are you sure you have the correct devicename?10:16
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coreymon77caris_mere: then mount it to that folder10:17
billytwowillykaminix2: fairly certain. It's the slave on the cdrom line and the cdrom is /dev/hdc10:17
SchuenemannI created a zip file in window$ and now Ark can't extract it. I suspect it's the file separator char. What can I do about it?10:17
kaminix2billytwowilly: Is it internal or external?10:17
billytwowillyMaybe the cdrom is farking it up. let me shut down and make sure it's got the right clippy thing on the right pair of metal rod thingies..10:18
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caris_merecoreymon77: I did that and then checked the folder, and it looks like what one would see with /10:18
BluesKajSchuenemann, try unrar10:18
kaminix2billytwowilly: Highlight me when you get back if you still want my help. :)10:18
Schuenemannisn't unrar for rar only?10:18
coreymon77are you sure sda5 is the right drive?10:18
coreymon77caris_mere: partition*10:18
BluesKajnope10:18
billytwowillykaminix2: I will, thanks.10:19
coreymon77caris_mere: type mount into konsole, and put the output on pastebin10:19
SchuenemannBluesKaj, KairosFuzzy-08-set.zip is not RAR archive10:19
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llutzSchuenemann: unzip Kairos....10:19
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cjehi, I am a volunteer supporting a public middle school in an attempt to move to FOSS on ubuntu feisty, and we are having a networking issue.  Is there anyone here who has experience with networking with legacy Windows desktops?10:20
cjeactually, make that kubuntu feisty10:20
Schuenemannllutz, unzipping is the problem here10:20
coreymon77cje: networking as in?10:20
titanix88cje: congrats!10:21
cjecoreymon77, we are trying to talk to a bunch of windows boxes.10:21
coreymon77cje: well, ya first thing, congrats10:21
caris_merecoreymon77: http://pastebin.com/m3697ec510:21
coreymon77cje: secondly, that requires samba10:21
cjecaris_mere, +1 , we have samba installed.10:21
BluesKajthat's odd i thought unrar could handle zipped files ...must be my old age creeping in :)10:22
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cjethe problem is that the legacy Windows box controlling the network gives us a new IP address every time we reboot the new kubuntu server.10:22
coreymon77cje: well then, set a static10:22
SchuenemannBluesKaj, it's not winrar :-)10:22
llutzSchuenemann: error-message?10:22
caris_merecje: I'm sorry, but I don't follow10:23
coreymon77caris_mere: well, theres the problem10:23
caris_merecoreymon77: I figured...  :-)10:23
coreymon77caris_mere: sda5 is not the fat32 partition, its your normal linux ext3 partition10:23
Schuenemannllutz, (file) appears to use backslashes as path separatorsd10:23
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dudeiclesgood afternoon folks10:24
coreymon77caris_mere: the only two fat32 partitions that seem to be there are sda1 and sdb110:24
dudeiclescould anyone here tell me why they believe Kubuntu is better than Ubuntu?10:24
cjecoreymon77, we are integrating with someone else's network, and we can't set a static IP.10:24
caris_merecoreymon77:  Yeah, I know.  It doesn't seem to recognize the other partition that I just made10:24
cjecaris_mere, thanks for asking, are there any other questions that I could answer to clarify our situation?10:25
coreymon77dudeicles: easy, i just like kde better than gnome, its personal prefference10:25
coreymon77cje: so, whats the problem, you cant connect to the windows computers?10:25
dudeiclescoreymon77: not really a KDE is better because... just your preference.10:25
dudeiclesKDE is more like Windows than Ubunty right?10:26
dudeiclesUbuntu*10:26
BluesKajSchuenemann, have tried the unzip command in the konsole10:26
BluesKaj?10:26
dudeiclesI'm thinking about formatting another HD and installing Ubuntu on it then Kubuntu on top.10:27
dudeiclesI need something closer to Windows for my wife and kids.10:27
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coreymon77dudeicles: recent windows converts will be more comfortable with kde than gnome10:27
dudeiclesis there a better linux build out there for Windows users?10:28
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coreymon77dudeicles: i dont think so10:28
SchuenemannBluesKaj, yeah, same problem10:28
coreymon77dudeicles: the point of linux is that it isnt windows10:28
dudeiclesok then it look slike Ubuntu it is.10:28
coreymon77dudeicles: its not going to be the same10:28
dudeicleswell i'm using Ubuntu right now10:29
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dudeiclesjust HD is too small10:29
dudeicleslol10:29
coreymon77dudeicles: as for it being better than ubuntu, thats just prefference as to kde or gnome10:29
dudeiclesthis is only  12 gig10:29
ballhi can someome talk me through getting the last part of my wifi settings sorted please?10:29
ubuntuhey10:29
dudeiclesyeah I can use either10:29
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dudeiclesit's the family that likes the "Start" button and everything nice and easy to get to.10:30
billytwowillykaminix2: should I stick with my old favorite reiserfs or go with something new and interesting like xfs?10:30
dudeicleswhich Ubuntu has, but KDE makes it much more organized I think.10:30
SchuenemannI like everything easy, that's why I use kubuntu10:30
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llutzSchuenemann: hehe10:30
dudeiclesSchuenemann: I agree, was just looking for others reasons why they use it over Ub10:30
dudeicleswell off to format10:30
coreymon77ball: whats the last part10:31
Schuenemann:p10:31
dudeicleshey in here, did anyone find installing Ubuntu to be a long process?10:31
coreymon77nope10:31
balli think that my gateway is wrong thats all i can think of10:31
dudeiclesLast time I installed Ubuntu on this HD it took like 1 hour10:31
coreymon7740 mins for me10:31
dudeiclesstuck around 65% to 74% took forever there.10:31
kaminix2billytwowilly: That's really up to you :) Which one you like or feel is best. :)10:31
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dudeiclesmaybe 40 was the time10:31
dudeiclescoreymon77: What is your specs?10:31
dudeiclesProcessor and Ram10:32
dudeiclesif you don't mind me asking10:32
coreymon77dudeicles: later10:32
coreymon77dudeicles: just make sure that your wife and kids know this beforehand10:32
dudeiclesknow what?10:32
cjecoreymon77, we can ping the Windows servers, and the Windows servers can ping us, but when new IP addresses are given out, the Windows boxes can't find the new Kubuntu Feisty file server10:32
coreymon77dudeicles: linux is not windows, its linux10:32
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dudeicleswe've been using Ubuntu for a week now10:32
dudeiclesthey're ok with it.10:32
coreymon77dudeicles: okay good10:32
ScorpKingi remember10:32
dudeiclesI got all their stuff to work fine on Linux10:32
dudeiclesScorpKing: you gonna be here all day?10:33
coreymon77ball: give me a sec10:33
ScorpKingdudeicles: maybe an hour or two10:33
kaminix2billytwowilly: I checked btw, if your HDD is IDE you can find out what it's called by "using sudo lshw | less", typing "/ide" and press enter. This will bring you to a list of IDE devices on your PC.10:33
dudeiclesLOL I may need your help getting my dang HD's to mount again. LOL10:33
ScorpKinglol10:33
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dudeiclesthis was a test HD to Ubuntu10:33
dudeiclesnow i'm going to put it on my 80 gig10:33
billytwowillykaminix2: thanks. I think I tentatively got it now.10:33
dudeiclesand wipe Windows from there10:33
ScorpKingwhy dont you just copy the hd10:33
dudeicles?10:34
dudeiclestell me how and I gladly will10:34
coreymon77cje: so you are saying that the problem is you are getting new ips all the time10:34
dudeiclesthis HD is 12 gb the other is 80 gb10:34
kaminix2billytwowilly: Good. :) Just say the word if there's something else. :)10:34
dudeiclesI'll have to make it a slave to plug it in.10:34
ScorpKingdudeicles: you don't have to do it all over. do you have two drives?10:34
dudeicleswill have to hook that other one up10:34
dudeicleswish I had an external case for it.10:34
dudeicleswould make life much easier.10:35
ScorpKingdudeicles: is the 80 empty?10:35
dudeiclesnot yet10:35
dudeicleswill e though10:35
dudeicleshas Windows on it.10:35
ScorpKingdudeicles: anything you want to save?10:35
coreymon77cje: and whenever you get a new ip, the windows server cant see feisty any more10:35
dudeiclesnope10:35
cjecoreymon77, yes10:35
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dudeiclesthat's where these backup pains in the butts come in10:35
dudeiclesthey have all my backup stuff. :)10:35
will_hey Im getting a could not open cache error when trying to open the repository10:36
ScorpKingdudeicles: plug the windows one as slave and boot from the cd10:36
dudeiclesk10:36
ScorpKingdudeicles: can you get online from the cd?10:36
will_should I re instal ?10:36
dudeiclesshould be able to.10:36
coreymon77cje: what about before the ips switch, does everything work then?10:36
ScorpKingdudeicles: i'll be here...10:36
will_E: Type 'http://www.linuxdj.com/audio/lad/' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list10:37
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dudeiclesleave this HD plugged in as well right now?10:37
ScorpKingyes10:37
dudeiclesbbiab10:37
will_i tried enabling that in my repository before all this crap happened10:37
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will_how do I disable it?10:37
will_Cause I cant get into the dialog window10:37
will_HELP PLEASE10:37
ScorpKingcomment it out10:37
will_I cant get into the dialog window to do so10:38
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cjeno, but the ip switching is making it hard to fix samba10:38
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coreymon77!patience | will_10:38
ubotuwill_: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines10:38
ScorpKingwill_: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list10:38
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will_thanks :D10:38
coreymon77will_: if its the ip switching thats the problem, the only thing to do is to stop that10:39
coreymon77will_: do the windows comptuers switch ips aswell?10:39
coreymon77whoop10:39
coreymon77s10:39
coreymon77wrong person10:39
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coreymon77cje: those questions are aimed at you10:39
will_how do I stop all this ?10:39
cjecoreymon77: yes, looks like we have to find out where the dhcp server is10:39
will_Can someone remote access into my comp ?hehehe10:40
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deviance!widgets10:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about widgets - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:40
will_I can't uncomment this bad repository that I entered because The ERROR MESSAGE will boot me out of the repository10:41
coreymon77cje: first things first, stop the dhcp form switching the ips all the time10:41
devianceWhats the best program for desktop widgets?10:41
christoffernorshow can i add a command to the FN+f7 command?10:41
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will_Is there a cammand line I can fun that will delete the line I entered? SOme file I can edit ?10:41
coreymon77will_: just reset your sources.list10:41
coreymon77will_: replace it with a new one10:41
will_how?10:41
coreymon77!source-o-matic10:41
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic10:41
will_reset * from sourcelist where bad=true10:42
will_hehehe10:42
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coreymon77will_: that site will genereate a working sources.list for yo10:43
coreymon77u10:43
coreymon77just delete your current one and replace it10:43
will_then I save it somewhere?10:43
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ScorpKingwill_: save it in /etc/apt/sources.list10:44
coreymon77cje: the first thing to do is stop the ip switchings from happening, cause that seems to be the main problem10:45
dmbkiwihi10:45
ScorpKing!hi10:45
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:45
[1] ballcoreymon77 i will be back online l8tr 2nite.  got issues irl right now10:45
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cjecoreymon77, we have found the dhcp server, and we are closing in on the answer, or so we hope.10:46
dmbkiwiis anyone else having trouble getting a kde4 beta2 session working?10:46
DudeiclesScorpKing Rules!10:46
Dudeiclesok i'm on liveCD10:46
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Dudeiclesnot sure if the other HD mounted10:46
Dudeicleslol10:46
ScorpKingDudeicles: open cli10:46
dmbkiwiseems that /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde is missing10:46
ScorpKingDudeicles: the konsole10:47
will_The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/apt/sources.list.10:47
will_Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.10:47
Dudeicleserrr10:47
coreymon77will_: you have to do it as root10:47
Dudeicleswon't have konsole in Ubuntu10:47
will_?10:47
Dudeiclesgot terminal open10:47
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xjkxthis rip a dvd of video on k3b is to rip to avi format?10:47
will_through the terminal window ?10:48
ScorpKingDudeicles: ls /dev/ | grep hd10:48
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coreymon77will_: no10:48
ScorpKingDudeicles: do you have hda, hdb and hdc?10:48
coreymon77will_: well, you could10:48
Dudeiclespasting now10:48
will_help this windows boy out a little :D10:49
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Dudeicleshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36827/10:49
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coreymon77will_: okay, type this10:49
coreymon77actually10:49
Ubu7hi all10:49
Ubu7I need some help for Ubuntu 7.0410:49
coreymon77will_: try opening the sources.list in kate10:50
DudeiclesScorpKing: ?10:50
ScorpKingDudeicles: which one is the linux drive? primary master?10:50
Dudeiclesshould be hca10:50
coreymon77will_: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list10:50
DudeiclesI didn't change that at all10:50
will_paste that in the terminal ?10:50
Dudeiclesjust unplugged my 2 ntfs backups10:50
Dudeiclesand plugged int the 80 gig I want to copy all to.10:50
Ubu7I'm a begginer - can't start X.....can't register entry in xauth....dunno what to do10:50
christoffernorsHow can i add a command to the video output switching shortcut fn+f7 ?10:50
ScorpKingDudeicles: i can't remember. lol10:51
Dudeicleshda1 should be my main drive10:51
Dudeiclesthe others were hdb1 and hdc110:51
ScorpKingDudeicles: lol10:51
ScorpKingDudeicles: then hda will be linux10:52
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will_IT WORKED !10:52
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will_Thanks kUbuntu room !10:52
Dudeiclesrighto10:52
Dudeiclesso I need to copy hda1 to hdb110:52
will_Now I can dl some pr0n !10:52
Dudeiclesright?10:52
ScorpKingDudeicles: sudo dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb10:52
Dudeiclespr0n rocks10:52
ali4728Help, Tired of dool boot and I was wondering if it would be possible to run Ubuntu and $M from external eSATA (enclosure) HDD? So I can switch the power button and start thew OS that I want. Comments appriciated..10:53
will_binary pr0n :D 010101000101010110:53
xjkxanyone ever used this rip video dvds of k3b?10:53
DudeiclesScorpKing: if this don't work i'll have to go through all again right?10:53
will_I got another question10:53
DudeiclesLOL10:53
ScorpKingDudeicles: yes but it will work. :)10:53
will_I'm trying to get some third party software going on in the repos, I remember way back someone showed me how to do it but I cant get it to work10:53
dmbkiwiis anyone else having trouble getting a kde4 beta2 session working?10:53
will_I want to download AUDACITY10:53
dmbkiwiseems that /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde is missing10:53
cjecoreymon77, now the weird thing is that we seem to be getting a new MAC address every time we reboot the kubuntu feisty ASUS V2 box.10:53
ScorpKingDudeicles: i use it a lot.10:53
DudeiclesScorpKing: working now10:54
Dudeiclestakes a while I assume?10:54
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seanpcrowehey peeps...10:54
ScorpKingDudeicles: yes10:54
seanpcrowen00b question10:54
Dudeiclesdamnit10:54
Dudeiclesyou know what I wanted to do10:54
coreymon77cje: that causing the same problem?10:54
seanpcrowecan i change the size of the desktop icons??10:54
DudeiclesI wanted to format the HD first10:54
ScorpKingDudeicles: no need10:54
Dudeiclesk10:54
Dudeicleshow long will it take?10:54
DudeiclesI have no patience dangit. LOL10:55
ScorpKingDudeicles: maybe one hour10:55
ScorpKinglol10:55
DudeiclesScorpKing: AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH10:55
will_quick n00b question. I dled firefox, but it doesnt show in the internet tab on kubuntu.10:55
ScorpKingDudeicles: after that put the new drive on primary master10:55
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Dudeiclesit will tell me when it's done?10:55
will_How do I launch firefox and check my email in peace?10:56
Dudeiclesright now it's not showing anything in Terminal10:56
will_and how do I get flux box?10:56
Dudeiclesthe box just went to the next line. that's all10:56
Dudeicleslol10:56
dmbkiwiwill_: install it using the package manager10:56
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ScorpKingDudeicles: you might not be able to boot from it so just boot from the cd and i'll help you to get it back.10:56
Sannewill_: you can enable additional ubuntu repositories (universe, multiverse) and should find audacity and firefox in there. Please read what the bot ubotu sends you for software management:...10:56
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Sanne!repos | will_10:56
ubotuwill_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu10:56
ScorpKingDudeicles: so it's back at the prompt?10:57
dmbkiwiwill_: it's in the kmenu under System -> Adept Manager10:57
Dudeiclesbox below the prompt10:57
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Dudeicleshow can I tell10:57
ScorpKingDudeicles: as soon as you can type another command it's done.10:57
DudeiclesI typed exit and it did nothing10:58
ScorpKingthen its busy10:58
Dudeicleshelp it did nothing10:58
Dudeiclesk10:58
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Dudeiclesmy HDD light is going like crazy10:58
Sannewill_: if you want to search which packages are available in ubuntu, you can do so at packages.ubuntu.com. But don't download from there, install them using the package mananger.10:58
ScorpKingDudeicles: it will. reading nonstop.10:58
ScorpKingDudeicles: when the light stops it's done. lol10:59
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coreymon77cje: is that causing the same problem? or is it better now10:59
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DudeiclesScorpKing: So hows the weather wherever you are?11:00
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cjewe are now having the problem that the MAC address appears to be changing.  But we are going to assign an IP address below 100 and see if that helps.11:00
Dudeiclesblue skies here in California11:00
devianceAnyone know how I can have it so that Kwallet doesnt need to ask me for a password when I start Kopete11:01
ScorpKingDudeicles: go to #kubuntu-offtopic11:01
DudeiclesScorpKing: got ya sorry11:01
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devianceANd yesterday I ln -s linked a program into auto start but I dont want it there, how can I remove it11:01
deviance?11:01
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devianceScorpKing: How do you unlink a program from .kde/autostart?11:03
ScorpKingremove the link with rm11:03
devianceSo rm ln aMSN?11:04
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devianceAh got it11:04
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ScorpKingrm .kde/autostart/linkdff11:05
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maurisomeone can elp me with my webcam11:07
dmbkiwiis anyone else having trouble getting a kde4 beta2 session working?11:07
dmbkiwiseems that /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde is missing11:07
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will_Firefox installed successfully , how do I use it? Where is the shortcut on my desktop ?11:09
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rdvonI cant get bitpim working under kubuntu with my razr v3m11:10
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will_how do I get firefox going?11:11
will_is it a command line?11:11
rdvoninstall in the repos.11:11
will_i have it installed11:11
rdvonthan press alt f2 than type firefox.11:11
will_is there a way to make a shortcut of it?11:11
christofferHi just did something stupid.. INstalled tdb and the osd that appeared before when changing volume with keyboard shortcuts is no longer there.. Uninstalled tpd but still no osd... What do i do?11:11
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rdvonwill_ right click the desktop11:12
rdvoncreate new11:12
rdvonthan link to application.11:12
rdvonthan go to the app tab11:12
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rdvonand where it says command type firefox.11:12
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rdvondoes anyone know why bitpim isnt working?11:13
coreymon77cje: sorry about not answering immidiately, i am working on something else and sometimes forget to check my irc client every now and then11:13
christofferanyone???11:14
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rdvonchristoffer: no idea.11:14
christoffer:\11:14
rdvonis that how you spell christoffer though? I was sure it was christopher..11:14
coreymon77cje: if its ip and mac address problems that you are having, my best suggestion would be to set a static11:14
coreymon77cje: it may just be something you have to do11:15
christofferdeppends of your origin11:15
christoffer* on11:15
coreymon77cje: and it shouldnt be that much of a problem if the computer is a desktop, which i am assuming it is (correct me if im wron)11:15
cjecoreymon77, we are in the process of trying to set up a static.  We are also suspecting a weirdo on-board NIC, and we are going to swap that out.11:15
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coreymon77cje: is it a desktop?11:16
rdvonoh really? I dont think I've ever seen it spelled like that, very interesting...11:16
cjecoreymon77, yes, it is a desktop.11:16
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coreymon77cje: well then setting a static shoulnt be a problem, its for laptops that its an issue11:16
cjecoreymon77, the model is V2-P5945G11:16
cjedesktop.11:16
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christoffernors#ubuntu11:17
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terrestre!es11:20
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.11:20
DudeiclesScorpKing: Are you there?11:20
Dudeicles:P11:20
terrestretoto?11:20
ScorpKingDudeicles: yes11:20
terrestrebinaltech: hola11:21
Dudeiclescool11:21
ScorpKingDudeicles: shut down and take out the old drive.11:21
Dudeiclesso should I just shut down make that other HD the master and run it?11:21
mkaltzdoes anyone have insight into installing the snapapi module required by true image server in ubunty feisty11:21
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ScorpKingDudeicles: set the new one master and try to boot.11:21
Dudeicleslol good idea buddy11:21
Dudeicleswill get back on here and chat with you after if it works11:22
ScorpKingsee you soon11:22
cjecoreymon77, we are just now pulling a NIC out of another machine.11:22
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Dudeicleshasta11:22
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ScorpKingi'll be here. we're not done11:22
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terrestrebinaltech: hello11:24
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binaltechalgo :)11:25
terrestre!kde11:25
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.11:25
terrestre!es11:25
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.11:25
terrestre!es > binaltech11:25
binaltecha que wena11:25
terrestre!es >> binaltech11:25
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terrestre!es | binaltech11:26
ubotubinaltech: please see above11:26
maurisomeone can elp me with my webcam11:26
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binaltech!tux11:26
ubotutux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/11:26
christoffernorsI have a clean installed ubuntu on my IBM THINKPAD T42. For some reason i lost the OSD's when changing volume, lcd brightness and so on.. How to get it back?11:26
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coreymon77mauri: what webcam?11:28
BluesKajwill_, did you update your sources.list ?11:29
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mauricoreymon77: http://www.emtec-international.com/en/produit.php?categorie=AVNOM&gamme=AV%20WEBCAMS&ss_gamme=W30011:29
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christoffernorsTHIS SUCKS!!!11:31
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mauricoreymon77: have you received the model11:32
coreymon77i saw11:32
coreymon77give me a sec11:32
spirooHow do I mount .img and other images like I did in Daemon tools in WIndows? I do not find support for it anywhere, not even in K3B.11:32
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KeinHow weird... the autoupdater isn't working. =/11:33
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annahi11:34
annawhat's the german channel?11:34
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SlimeyPete!german11:34
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:34
annathanks11:34
SlimeyPete:)11:34
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spiroodoes anybody know how to burn or mount .img in linux/kubuntu. I wanna watch my movies.11:35
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stdinspiroo: depends what filesystem is in the file11:35
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spirooI do not know, how to check then?11:36
coreymon77spiroo: k3b can definitely burn .imgs, cant it?11:36
coreymon77mauri: how does your webcam connect? i take it its usb right?11:36
stdinspiroo: "file filename.img" in konsole11:37
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mauricoreymon77: yes but the device /dev/video is not created11:37
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DudeiclesScorpKing: Didn't work11:37
Dudeiclesget a GRUB error 211:37
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ScorpKingDudeicles: you're on the cd?11:38
Dudeiclesyes11:38
ScorpKingDudeicles: ls /dev/ | grep hd11:38
Dudeicleshda11:39
ScorpKingDudeicles: you have hda?11:39
Dudeiclesyeah11:39
ScorpKinglol11:39
DudeiclesI think that's the HD we just cpied stuff to11:39
ScorpKingDudeicles: what program do you use for irc?11:40
Dudeicleswas gonna xchat11:40
Dudeicleswhoops11:40
Dudeiclesxchat11:40
terrestre!aptitude | binaltech11:40
ubotubinaltech: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide11:40
ScorpKingDudeicles: does it show tabs with the channel names on the side?11:41
Dudeiclesyeah11:41
mauricoreymon77: are you still there?11:41
ScorpKingDudeicles: there is ine with your name11:41
ScorpKingone11:41
coreymon77mauri: ya, sorry11:41
Dudeiclesno11:41
DudeiclesUbuntu Server11:41
Dudeicles#kubuntu11:41
Dudeiclesand11:41
DudeiclesScorpKing:11:41
coreymon77mauri: type lsusb into konsole and put the output on pastebin11:41
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ScorpKingDudeicles: click on my name11:42
coreymon77make sure the webcam is plugged in when you do lsusb though11:42
Dudeicleswait11:42
Dudeiclesnot registered11:42
ScorpKingthsi channel makes my client slow11:42
ScorpKing:(11:42
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mauricoreymon77: of course it's plugged11:43
coreymon77mauri: then put the output of lsusb on pastebin11:43
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mauricoreymon77: please give me the link...i forgot it11:44
spirooIs there not any support to just open .img images or other in Kaffeine or Amarok?11:44
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coreymon77!pastebin11:45
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)11:45
stdinspiroo: do "file filename.img" in konsole11:46
spirooI have11:46
stdinspiroo: and the output??11:46
spirooUDF v1.511:46
SlimeyPete.img is a proprietary format iirc11:46
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mauricoreymon77: http://pastebin.com/d39c6241c11:47
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stdinspiroo: then "sudo mount filename.img /somewhere -t udf -o loop,uid=$(id -u)" should do it11:47
spiroolol, is there not any app to do this? I could do it manually, but I do not wanna do this every single time.11:48
mauricoreymon77: did you see it11:48
spiroolike deamon tools I just want11:49
coreymon77mauri: yam i see it11:49
coreymon77mauri: to tell you the truth, i dont know11:49
mauricoreymon77: why yuo don't....which is the problem11:50
coreymon77mauri: your webcam is from a slightly obscure company, so there is nothing that i can find that can help11:50
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spiroostdin or someone: any application for mounting dvd images?11:50
coreymon77mauri: i was hoping lsusb would give me a hint, but it didnt11:50
coreymon77spiroo: google is your friend11:51
coreymon77mauri: sorry11:51
coreymon77cje: any updates?11:51
spiroocoreymon77: not always11:51
mauricoreymon77: do you think that i have to buy another one and it will works11:51
BluesKajspiroo, have you tried kiso ?11:51
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stdinspiroo: if you changing the extension to iso  and using http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/MountFile?content=6195511:53
spirookiso?11:53
Dave132how soon is the next version of ubuntu coming out?11:54
stdin!gutsy | Dave13211:54
ubotuDave132: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+111:54
Dave132thnaks11:54
Dave132thanks11:54
spiroo18 october11:55
Dave132cool11:55
stdinprobably the 18th, but no guarantees on that11:56
Dave132ok,thanks11:56
Dave132not in a rush, just curious11:56
spirooyeah :)11:57
flatulentwhich kernel does gutsy use?11:59
Biovore2.6.22-10 is the current11:59
winbondis kubuntu looks team a 1 man team?11:59
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NickPrestawinbond, there are many people that contribute to Kubuntu in one way or another. I'm sure there is a fairly large (yet still) incomplete list of credits somewhere.12:00
will_quick question12:00
will_I have an audiophile 249612:01
will_it supports linux12:01
will_How do I download their drivers? Its not like an exe that I double clikc on or anything right ?12:01
spiroonope 2.6.22-11 is current one12:02
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msoiniwill_, "You'll want to use the envy24control mixer program from the alsa-tools package."12:02
spirooIs there any dvd playback application to play iso-images?12:02
msoiniah should read before i copy-paste :-P12:02
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GoodHabitHello. I am searching sniffer for KDE. Can smb tell me?12:03
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stdinspiroo: most will12:03
winbondNickPresta, just wondering what they do, couse the kubuntu look and feel is pretty bad12:03
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NickPrestawinbond, I'm sorry you feel that way. What exactly feels bad about it?12:04
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spiroostdin: does not for instance work in kaffeine12:04
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maurisomeone can elp me with my webcam12:05
winbondNickPresta, it feels like im back to using windows 9512:05
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Dave132winbond, you a vista fan?12:05
winbondDave132, no12:06
NickPrestawinbond, did you make any effort to customize the system to your liking? I would say that you didn't try hard enough to make it feel the way you want...12:06
Dave132lol12:06
NickPresta!ask | mauri12:06
ubotumauri: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:06
Black_Monkeythe announcement for beta 2 still says "Packages for 7.04 are currently being compiled" - so it's still not ready yet? :/12:06
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msoiniwill_, have you looked at http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=support.drivers&f=42212:06
terrestre!amsn12:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:07
terrestre!webcam12:07
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras12:07
mauriNickPresta: i've installe gspca drivers but /dev/vido is not created12:07
winbondNickPresta, im sure there are a lot of things to customize , i just dont have the skill to do it12:07
NickPrestawinbond, customizing KDE is point-and-click affair. You don't need anything special to do it. A bit of patience and you're good to go.12:07
will_alsa tools eh12:08
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Black_Monkeyso any news on the status of beta 2 for feisty?12:08
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mauriNickPresta: are you still there12:09
msoiniwill_, this also looks like it could be of interest: http://www-old.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Midiman%2FMAudio&card=Delta+Audiophile+2496.&chip=ICE1712+(Envy24)&module=ice171212:09
NickPrestamauri, I can't help you in regards to your webcam. Someone else in the channel might be able to assist you.12:10
will_thanks meng!12:10
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mauriNickPresta: you know know the model, why yuo say that are not able to help me12:11
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will_you guys know how I would switch over to fluxbox?12:12
winbondmauri, whats the model of ur cam12:12
stdinspiroo: it does, just open a url like dvd:///home/spiroo/file.iso12:12
mauriwinbond: http://www.emtec-international.com/en/produit.php?categorie=AVNOM&gamme=AV%20WEBCAMS&ss_gamme=W30012:13
spiroostdin: In konqueror?12:13
stdinspiroo: in kaffeine12:13
spiroohmm okay, where?12:14
spiroowhere in kaffeine12:14
stdinspiroo: File > Open URL12:14
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mauriwinbond: have you received the link?12:15
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winbondmauri, yeah im trying to see if the chipset is listed12:16
spiroostdin: Thanks, it worked, but is there not any easier way?12:17
mauriwinbond: lsusb= Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.12:17
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stdinspiroo: make a service menu if you want12:18
spirooUnfortunately I have not time12:19
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spirooSometimes I just wonder why some apps only is in windows like daemon-tools, norton ghost and damn nfo viewer12:20
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mauriwinbond: are you there12:23
winbondmauri, yeah, hold on , im looking it up12:24
Dave132how do I turn off the entry and exit notifications in konversation?12:24
cjecoreymon77: Thanks for your help, we got it all working. Swapping in a new NIC and fixing the IP address made things much easier.12:25
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winbondmauri, i think u are out of luck, there is not one z-star webcam that has a linux driver12:27
coreymon77cje: no problem12:27
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stdinDave132: settings > configure konversation > behaviour > chat window and check the "Hide Join/Part/Nick Events"12:27
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DudeiclesScorpKing: ?12:28
winbondcheck it out, this guy writs like the most webcam linux drivers, http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html12:28
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Dave132sdin,thanks12:28
winbondmauri, check it out, this guy writs like the most webcam linux drivers, http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html12:28
ScorpKingDudeicles: yes12:28
Dave132stdin,thanks12:28
Dudeiclesi msg'd you12:28
Dudeiclesoh wai12:28
christoffernorsIf i by mistake have installed some additional package that controls the thinkpad key bindings, how do i make gnome the default controller again? So that gnome have control over these keys again?12:28
Dudeicleswait even12:28
terrestremauri: do you use amsn?12:28
ScorpKingDudeicles: i'm here12:28
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stdinwinbond: that driver's in ubuntu, it's called "gspca"12:29
davidubigood evening12:29
davidubito everyone in the channel12:29
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mauriterrestre:  yes....amsn does not recognized any video device12:30
emilsedghKopete has good webcam handling, AFAIK12:30
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davidubineed some help to get KDE4 beta to run in kubuntu feisty. followed the instructions in the website but I dont see the "KDE4" entry in kdm12:30
davidubii got it to run with beta1 but i cannot do it with beta212:31
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stdindavidubi: you have to add it12:31
davidubistdin: please tell me how to do it?12:32
winbondstdin, im just saying that it looks like his camera doesnt have linux drivers12:32
cjegotta go.  Thanks to everyone who helped.12:32
stdindavidubi: the instructions are on the kubuntu website: "To run it as a full session copy /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop to /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop, edit the Name entry in kde4.desktop to be called "KDE 4", put the four export lines at the top of /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde and start a new session in KDM with KDE 4."12:32
davidubii followed exactly the instructions in the site12:33
stdinwinbond: but that driver supports most "generic" ones12:33
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mauriterrestre:  may you halp me?12:33
vltHello. Any idea why my Ubuntu boots to runlevel UNKNOWN oly and I have to run `telinit 3` (sic) first?12:33
vltonly*12:33
stdinvlt: do you have an /etc/inittab ?12:34
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stdindavidubi: have you copied the file to where it said and edited it?12:34
vltstdin: No, this is Feisty12:34
davidubistdin: YES: the instructions on the site worked for me when tried KDE4 beta1, but with KDE4 beta 2 they don't12:34
stdindavidubi: and did you install kdebase-workspace ?12:35
davidubiYES, and since kdebase-workspace had a conflict with a package installed by the beta 1, I did a clean install of feisty12:35
davidubiand then I installed kdebase-workspace12:36
stdinvlt: ok, post the /etc/event.d/rc-default to pastebin12:36
winbondstdin, yeah, but his cam is made by z-star, which , from what im seeing , is not supported by that driver , there was development going on for it , but its dead12:36
stdindavidubi: so do you have both kde4base and kdebase-workspace installed ?12:36
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davidubistdin: NOPE, just kdebase-workspace12:37
stdindavidubi: that's your problem then12:37
davidubiok12:37
vltstdin: The significant part is "else telinit 2"12:37
vltstdin: and maybe "start on stopped rcS" before12:38
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