[01:46] <runlevelten> Well, thanks. You?
[01:46] <lavacano201014> not bad
[01:46] <spree> mike, ill do that
[01:46] <elzbal> For me, I choose reiserfs for all partitions.
[01:46] <intelikey> for some reason this string in the postinst script is exiting 1
[01:46] <intelikey>     ucf --debconf-ok /usr/share/fuse-utils/default $CONFFILE
[01:46] <intelikey>     [[ -f $CONFFILE ] ]  && . $CONFFILE
[01:46] <lavacano201014> i cant get my lunch at the usual vending machine for a while
[01:46] <lavacano201014> but good nonetheless
[01:46] <draik> runlevelten: Good
[01:47] <draik> lavacano201014: Why not? What's wrong with the machine?
[01:47] <intelikey> how would  " ucf --debconf-ok /usr/share/fuse-utils/default filename "   call an exit 1  in the script ?
[01:47] <lavacano201014> nothing
[01:47] <lavacano201014> boss just confined me to my desk
[01:47] <lavacano201014> i have an odd boss
[01:47] <lavacano201014> and i want my job
[01:47] <lavacano201014> only time i can leave it is when i have IT duties to do
[01:47] <draik> lavacano201014: Ever seen Fight Club? Maybe something like that would work for you!
[01:48] <lavacano201014> never heard of it
[01:48] <lavacano201014> draik: but google is king for me so i might ask it
[01:48] <tobias__> hey is there any admin who helped configuring your channel bot? (which is based on supybot I think ?! )
[01:49] <intelikey> how cam  " ucf --debconf-ok /usr/share/fuse-utils/default /etc/default/fuse-utils "   call an exit 1  in the script ?
[01:49] <draik> lavacano201014: It's a great movie. A few years (12+ years) old, but good
[01:49] <lavacano201014> heh
[01:50] <lavacano201014> draik: i saw a similar movie called Kung Pow
[01:50] <lavacano201014> it was entertaining
[01:50] <draik> NO
[01:50] <draik> Enter the Fist?
[01:50] <lavacano201014> yes
[01:50] <draik> The parody movie?
[01:50] <lavacano201014> indee
[01:50] <lavacano201014> +d
[01:50] <draik> haha
[01:50] <lavacano201014> but only the second half
[01:50] <draik> I remember that movie
[01:51] <winbond> kung pow is like the worst movie ever
[01:51] <intelikey> ok that's a bug in the dapper fuse-utils package  the postinst script  line "ucf --debconf-ok /usr/share/fuse-utils/default"    exit's the script.    this needs fixed.      note this does BREAK the package and ties up dpkg.
[01:51] <draik> squeezy shoes and beats himself up, "Wee-ooo-eee-ooo-eee-ooo" crying, "Call me 'Betty'", ninja cow, etc
[01:52] <intelikey> !staff
[01:52] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[01:53] <ninhobomba> lavacano201014: how do i erase that useless partition?
[01:54] <Zaelore> hello
[01:54] <lavacano201014> ninhobomba: what is your desktop environment
[01:54] <Zaelore> for some reason kubuntu is not seeing all the memory on my computer, does anyone know how to get it to see all?
[01:55] <Zaelore> I have 128 mb built in w/ a 1gb chip, it sees 754 mb
[01:56] <ninhobomba> lavacano201014: kde
[01:56] <lavacano201014> ninhobomba: try QTParted
[01:56] <lavacano201014> i was asking because GNOME had one built in
[01:56] <ninhobomba> lavacano201014: is it in the livecd?
[01:56] <elzbal> Zaelore: When you boot the computer, does the bios see it all?
[01:57] <lavacano201014> yes
[01:57] <Zaelore> no
[01:57] <Zaelore> whoah simul reply
[01:57] <elzbal> heh
[01:57] <lavacano201014> ninhobomba: it probably is in the livecd
[01:57] <Zaelore> I'm pretty sure it only sees 700something
[01:57] <elzbal> Zaelore: That would be why... the OS can't see any more memory than the bios does.
[01:57] <Zaelore> oh
[01:58] <lavacano201014> ninhobomba: some distro installers also have one built in
[01:58] <Zaelore> I forgot to mention I'm running on an iBook g4 933 mhz apple computer
[01:58] <elzbal> Zaelore:You may be able to change some bios settings to get more memory visible....
[01:59] <Zaelore> so I think it's openfirmware not bios ?
[01:59] <elzbal> well, yeah, but it's the same thing.  :)
[01:59] <elzbal> more-or-less
[01:59] <Zaelore> great
[01:59] <Zaelore> so where do I start?
[02:00] <Bebege> hey ya'll...
[02:00] <Bebege> anyone here has the song Makes me wonder by Maroon 5?
[02:01] <draik> What is an SFV file?
[02:01] <draik> What does it do?
[02:02] <elzbal> Zaelore: I googled around for the specs, and it looks like the computer should support 1152MB of memory...   http://lowendmac.com/ibooks/g4-14.html
[02:02] <Bebege> SFV !
[02:02] <elzbal> Zaelore: I'm not sure what to do after that... I've never really used openfirmware heavily.
[02:02] <draik> !sfv
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sfv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <draik> Bebege: ...?
[02:03] <Bebege> uh huh.. think I put it in the wrong order....
[02:03] <Zaelore> elzbal it can see the memory in mac os x but linux has trouble finding it
[02:03] <Bebege> fraik, you have that song by maron 5, it's called Makes me wonder?
[02:03] <Bebege> draik*
[02:04] <draik> Nope
[02:04] <Bebege> damn....
[02:04] <Bebege> no one in here has that song?
[02:04] <elzbal> Zaelore: Darn, then I really wouldn't know where to begin. I have't had Mac hardware since the days of Power Computing.  :)
[02:04] <Zaelore> heh
[02:05] <Zaelore> well ok that's only issue #1
[02:05] <Zaelore> number 2 is how to get wireless to work when it comes back from sleep
[02:06] <Zaelore> I have a command that makes it work, how do I make it automatic when it comes back from sleep?
[02:06] <Bebege> never miind ya'll... finally found it in Frostwire....
[02:06] <Zaelore> Maroon 5 : /
[02:06] <Bebege> yea....
[02:11] <mneptok> Bebege: please don't talk about IP theft on #ubuntu* channels
[02:11] <mneptok> Bebege: in this litigious climate ... it's a bad idea. :/
[02:11] <mneptok> (thanks RIAA!)
[02:12] <mauri> hi all, I've a problem with my webcam....someone can help me please?
[02:14] <mauri> is there someone?
[02:16] <Max-P> Does anyone know how to start the Power Manager?
[02:16] <Max-P> (manually)
[02:20] <thomas> i'm trying to install libntfs-3g0_1.328-1_i386.deb so I can access my windows folders
[02:20] <thomas> I think that's what I"m suppost to do to access windows folders but anyway when I try to install it I get an error saying, dependency problems
[02:21] <runlevelten> Don't download debs and try to install them alone thomas
[02:21] <runlevelten> !adept
[02:22] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[02:22] <runlevelten> !ntfs
[02:22] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:22] <thomas> runlevelten: why
[02:22] <thomas> yea
[02:22] <runlevelten> because you have package management available to you, which is much better.
[02:22] <runlevelten> !apt
[02:22] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[02:22] <thomas> libntfs-3g0_1.328-1_i386.deb
[02:23] <runlevelten> There is no reason you should have downloaded that file, so not "yeah".
[02:23] <runlevelten> Read the links given :)
[02:24] <thomas> ok thanks
[02:24] <runlevelten> No probs
[02:24] <runlevelten> Sorry if I sounded a little curt - didn't mean to.
[02:25] <runlevelten> Good luck thomas :)
[02:25] <thomas> hehe no I'm obligated to research also not rely only on you
[02:25] <thomas> I don't want to abuse your help :) I like it :)
[02:25] <WaxyFresh> hi im compiling my own kernel for fun.im trying to follow these directions:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835 but my computer wont boot under vesa its running fglrx right now what should i do?
[02:25] <BluesKaj> thomas , I like your atitude :)
[02:26] <thomas> BluesKaj: :S
[02:26] <BluesKaj> err attitude
[02:26] <EightiesK> could some one pastebucket there menu.lst with windows xp ?
[02:26] <thomas> BluesKaj: well I'm right ain't I
[02:26] <BluesKaj> yup
[02:27] <ricky_ds_> Hi all, I'm testing Gutsy Gibbon 5 and wondering if this is the place to discuss it or if there's a specific channel?
[02:28] <Biovore> ricky_ds_: ubuntu+1
[02:28] <ricky_ds_> Biovore: thanks
[02:28] <EightiesK> could some one pastebucket there menu.lst with windows xp ?
[02:29] <BluesKaj> EightiesK, http://www.pastebin.ca/686531
[02:31] <EightiesK> BluesKaj: thank you
[02:31] <BluesKaj> good luck
[02:32] <erichj> why doesn't dell let people know they sell ubuntu in their sales mag. i just got the september issue and not even a single mention
[02:33] <Fil_> hey i need some sound help
[02:33] <Fil_> can anyone give me some advice
[02:33] <Fil_> i have a pci soundblaster live card... and onboard sound aswell
[02:33] <ricky_ds_> Fil_: what is your prob?
[02:33] <Fil_> i need to disable the onboard
[02:34] <Fil_> cause amarok gets confused. works sometimes, others it wont
[02:34] <sammy> for anyone curious about my no networks in the knetworkmanager list, here's debug.log: NetworkManager: <WARNING>^I nm_dbus_get_networks_cb (): error received: org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo.NoNetworks - org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo.NoNetworks.
[02:35] <sammy> which is odd, considering iwlist eth0 scan reports all essids within range :( *goes googling*
[02:35] <WaxyFresh> hi im compiling my own kernel for fun.im trying to follow these directions:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835 but my computer wont boot under vesa its running fglrx right now what should i do?
[02:36] <sammy> it's possible, when I installed from the livecd, that the networking settings it used to connect before the installation were somehow transferred to the /target settings before reboot, which didn't happen with the minicd? don't quote me.
[02:36] <sammy> WaxyFresh: what video driver are you trying to use? it wont boot with vesa?
[02:37] <Zaelore> does anyone know how to make a script run as root when the computer returns from suspension?
[02:39] <winbond> can someone look at this compiling log of vmmon module and tell me what the problem is ?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36748/
[02:40] <sammy> Zaelore: check /etc/apm/
[02:40] <WaxyFresh> sammy: fglrx i have  a ati readeon card
[02:41] <WaxyFresh> sammy: but the howto says i need to switch it to vesa for compiling the kernel
[02:42] <WaxyFresh> brb
[02:42] <Zaelore> ok testing it
[02:43] <KDEfanboy> how do you install the minimal kubuntu installation (not full default) from the kubuntu cd?
[02:45] <Zaelore> sammy it didn't wokr
[02:46] <sammy> Zaelore: I'm sure there are plenty of documents on how to use the files and scripts in ... oh. well.
[02:46] <Zaelore> sammy putting the script in /etc/apm/resume.d didn't help
[02:47] <Zaelore> how can I find out what software the computer is isuing to do the resume/suspend?
[02:47] <sammy> Zaelore: I'm sure there are plenty of documents on how to use the files and scripts in /etc/apm. I've no experience whatsoever in doing such things :P
[02:47] <Zaelore> darn >_>
[02:48] <WaxyFresh> sammy: back,any idea?
[02:49] <ordinor> If I install Ubuntu, then install Kubuntu-desktop, does what I end up with significantly differ from what I get when I install Kubuntu?
[02:49] <hydrogen> mm
[02:49] <hydrogen> yea
[02:49] <hydrogen> in the "you now have more" side of things
[02:50] <hydrogen> though
[02:50] <ordinor> mm
[02:50] <sammy> WaxyFresh: what exactly isn't working? those directions ask you to change your proprietary driver to vesa *in X* until you get your new kernel working
[02:50] <hydrogen> you could uninstall ubuntu-desktop and its depends and get to the same point
[02:50] <sammy> ordinor: what hydrogen said.
[02:50] <ordinor> not "having more" was one of the things that initially bothered me about Kubuntu
[02:51] <Random832> where can i install fonts in my homedir?
[02:51] <KDEfanboy> ordinor: right here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE
[02:53] <Synteth> hi, i recently have installed kubuntu-desktop, and in order to get some information about it without boring my friends, i would like to know if some of you could recomend me a nice link with the basic and so not basic information about using it.
[02:53] <KDEfanboy> kubuntu-desktop should be the full kubuntu install
[02:53] <sapu> the kubuntu website is prob good
[02:53] <fildo> fixed
[02:53] <fildo> i just had a sound issue..
[02:53] <sapu> does anyone know how to get pinyin input on kubuntu working with skim/scim?
[02:54] <fildo> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-79314.html
[02:54] <thomas> when I try to install my package in apt it says the status is broken
[02:54] <KDEfanboy> Synteth: desktop guide http://www.kubuntu.org/documentation.php
[02:54] <drewcipher> !pinyin >drewcipher
[02:54] <sapu> drewcipher: ?
[02:55] <flaccid> !adeptfix > thomas
[02:55] <drewcipher> sapu:  I've never heard of pinyin so I was using the ubuntu bot to send myself info on it (to see if it had an entry)
[02:55] <sapu> oh
[02:55] <sapu> ok
[02:55] <sapu> !pinyin > sapu
[02:55] <flaccid> pinyin is pseudo language to phonetically describe mandarin
[02:56] <elzbal> !pinyin | sapu
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pinyin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <elzbal> !pinyin > elzbal
[02:56] <sapu> it's a romanization system for Chinese
[02:56] <sapu> Mandarin Chinese
[02:56] <Synteth> KDEfanboy thanks, i like to learn by myself, but the most important thing it's the veracity of it. ^^
[02:56] <thomas> when I try to install my package in apt it says the status is broken
[02:57] <thomas> when I try to install my package in adept manager it says the status is broken
[02:57] <flaccid> thomas: don't repeat
[02:57] <thomas> lol yea i know sorry didn't write it the first time
[02:57] <flaccid> right..
[02:57] <flaccid> pastebin the error thomas
[02:58] <WaxyFresh> sammy i changed it from fglrx to vesa,when i boot x wont load,i gusse it dosent like vesa
[02:59] <flaccid> vesa should always work
[02:59] <flaccid> reason will be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:00] <thomas> flaccid: wow how did that command know what file was causing problems
[03:00] <flaccid> thomas: i don't understand
[03:00] <thomas> flaccid: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:01] <flaccid> because the command contains the location of the dpkg lock file..
[03:01] <thomas> flaccid: hmmm ok sorry i'm new to this
[03:01] <flaccid> ok
[03:04] <thomas> flaccid: it tells me libntfs-3g0 is installed but broken
[03:05] <Kein> Alright, for some reason, dpkg is locking up and I have no clue how to fix it.
[03:05] <flaccid> do you know what pastebin is thomas?
[03:05] <Kein> The instructions I did get didn't work. =/
[03:05] <flaccid> !adeptfix > Kein
[03:05] <flaccid> Kein: if the !adeptfix command doesn't work you might have to reboot
[03:05] <thomas> flaccid: well I took what the bot sent me and I pasted it into command prompt
[03:06] <flaccid> !pastebin > thomas
[03:06] <Kein> Thanks.
[03:06] <flaccid> paste the output of the command to pastebin and then paste the link to it here
[03:07] <Kein> ALright, it's forcing my previous commands through.
[03:07] <flaccid> what does that mean
[03:07] <fildo> boobies = newbies
[03:07] <Kein> It locked up as I was installing some stuff and the command is starting where Adept left off.
[03:07] <flaccid> ok..
[03:08] <fildo> ok..
[03:08] <fildo> is there an echo in here
[03:08] <fildo> :)
[03:08] <flaccid> !punctuation
[03:08] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:08] <flaccid> :p
[03:08] <fildo> !punctuation > flaccid
[03:10] <WaxyFresh> sammy: ?
[03:10] <thomas> flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36750/
[03:11] <Kein> okay, now adept's not downloading anything. =/
[03:11] <flaccid> ah well
[03:12] <flaccid> thomas: re generate your sources.list then do a sudo apt-get update
[03:12] <flaccid> then deal with any errors
[03:13] <thomas> flaccid: what do you mean re generate sources.list
[03:13] <fildo> use sourceomatic
[03:13] <flaccid> !source-o-matic | thomas
[03:13] <ubotu> thomas: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:14] <flaccid> come back to when you are done
[03:14] <thomas> ok
[03:14] <thomas> thanks
[03:16] <sammy> for anyone curious still about the no networks in knetworkmanager, the installation cd let me set my wireless device to default to eth0 and my wired to eth1. i changed /etc/iftab to have my wireless as wlan0 and my wired as eth0 and it seems to be working. i'm off to file a bug :)
[03:17] <flaccid> sammy: sweet. there are so many issues with networkmanager, it really annoys me and with ubuntu its like its a dependency - every time i've removed it becasue it doesn't work or interferes - network fails on startup
[03:17] <sammy> and I also see: '/etc/iftab' has been deprecated in favor of '/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules'
[03:17] <sammy> yeah networkmanager is fantastic when it works
[03:17] <sammy> it'll be great when we iron out all the kinks. true roaming capabilities! *dream*
[03:18] <sammy> oh, that pasted quote was from the gusty changes.
[03:18] <flaccid> yeah the udev / iftab stuff should of be ironed out years ago. its a shame its still not right. on other unix systems they don't fork the network like this
[03:18] <Kein> I feel stupid, how do I reboot?  Every time I've tried it it's just like setting it on hibernate. =(
[03:18] <flaccid> Kein: from the k menu or sudo reboot . if it goes into hibernate you might have an acpi or other problem
[03:19] <Kein> alright. ;/
[03:20] <sea4ever> Alright, serious question here :
[03:21] <sea4ever> Is there a DOS emulator? or command prompt emulator?
[03:21] <flatulent> apt-get install dosbox
[03:21] <WaxyFresh> sea4ever: why?learn to use the command line its soooo much more powerfull and for basic stuff not all that diffrent
[03:22] <flaccid> wtf
[03:22] <sea4ever> but I wanna be  able to test my programs which I make for command prompt. I can't find a way to compile them either. D:
[03:22] <Kein> Well, that didn't work.
[03:22] <Kein> All it did was restore my session. =/
[03:22] <flaccid> its not command prompt. are we talking dos here?
[03:23] <Kein> huh?
[03:23] <flaccid> Kein: what was it meant to do
[03:23] <Kein> flaccid: kill my current session, shut down, reboot, start a new session
[03:23] <Kein> hmm
[03:23] <Kein> one second
[03:23] <flaccid> what are you trying to achive Kein
[03:23] <flaccid> meh
[03:23] <sea4ever> control + alt + backspace
[03:23] <fulat2k> hi folks, i have kdebluetooth file transfer app running and it's able to find my mobile phone.  howver, i can't seem to xfer files from my phone.  any idea how i can achieve that?
[03:23] <flaccid> why would you want to kill X?
[03:24] <Kein> Well, that was fruitless.
[03:25] <Kein> End current session, try again, restoring session. =(
[03:26] <Kein> How do I force it to NOT restore a session and instead boot up normally?
[03:26] <flaccid> goto session manager
[03:26] <flaccid> turn off sessions
[03:27] <Kein> I might be blind, but I'm not seeing a session manager.
[03:27] <flaccid> its in system settings | advanced
[03:27] <winbond> can someone look at this compiling log of vmmon module and tell me what the problem is ?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36748/
[03:27] <Kein> Not seeing it...
[03:28] <flaccid> winbond: don't think here is the place for that
[03:28] <flaccid> Kein: open kcontrol and search for session then
[03:36] <sea4ever> sudo apt-get install dosbox : "Depends : libsdl-net1.2  but it is not installable.    Depends : libsdl-sound1.2 but it is not installable   O_o
[03:36] <flaccid> !info libsdl-net1.2
[03:36] <ubotu> libsdl-net1.2: network library for Simple DirectMedia Layer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.5-7 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 64 kB
[03:37] <flaccid> sea4ever: is universe enabled and did a sudo apt-get update before?
[03:38] <sea4ever> er..universe enabled?
[03:38] <flatulent> worked for me
[03:38] <flaccid> !repos > sea4ever
[03:40] <AirstrikeIvanov> Hi everyone. I just installed a new CDRW drive to replace a broken one. How do I find out if I need extra drivers or software or whatnot for it?
[03:40] <flaccid> AirstrikeIvanov: put a cd in
[03:40] <modor> hello, anyone use tovid?  The #tovid channel is not giving me any responses
[03:40] <AirstrikeIvanov> using Unreal Tournament lol
[03:41] <flaccid> you don't need anything extra for the drive if it works.
[03:42] <modor> anyone know which way the 'quality' scale tips in Tovid? it is a scale of 1 - 10.
[03:43] <inaety> anyone know where i can some cool large scale (1600x1200) atmospheric wallpapers? moon, stars, you get it...
[03:43] <WaxyFresh> (08:35:42 PM) WaxyFresh: hi im compiling my own kernel for fun.im trying to follow these directions:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835 but my computer wont boot under vesa its running fglrx right now what should i do?
[03:43] <flaccid> inaety: google
[03:43] <modor> as I said, the Tovid channel is not very active right now. not sure where else I could ask
[03:43] <inaety> flaccid: convenient answer
[03:43] <flaccid> WaxyFresh: use fglrx its faster than vesa and the vid driver is irrelevant for compilation of a kernel
[03:44] <WaxyFresh> flaccid: then whys it say i need to switch to vesa for compiling?
[03:44] <inaety> flaccid: i've tried google, i just think people know better sites for this kind of tinhg
[03:44] <inaety> thing
[03:44] <flaccid> WaxyFresh: what are you compiling and with what? you don't need X to compile most things
[03:44] <zippo> KDE4 is automatically installed with kubuntu 7.04?
[03:44] <flaccid> inaety: this is kubuntu support channel. try !offtopic
[03:45] <stdin> zippo: no
[03:45] <flaccid> zippo: no kde3
[03:45] <WaxyFresh> im trying to compile a custom kernel for no reason,im bored and want to learn.i think its a good reason
[03:45] <flaccid> !kernel
[03:45] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:46] <flaccid> did you read the kernelcustombuild page?
[03:46] <modor> okay, thanks all
[03:46] <WaxyFresh> no just http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835
[03:46] <winbond> can vmware server be installed with apt-get?
[03:46] <WaxyFresh> it seems to be the easyist howto out there
[03:46] <flaccid> WaxyFresh: use the wiki guide.
[03:46] <stdin> winbond: yeah, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server
[03:47] <flaccid> !vmware | winbond
[03:47] <ubotu> winbond: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[03:47] <WaxyFresh> flaccid: do you know the difference?
[03:47] <flaccid> WaxyFresh: no i don't.
[03:47] <WaxyFresh> ill check it out
[03:47] <flaccid> i would think wiki would be more accurate/de facto than a forum post
[03:48] <zippo> does kubuntu have auto mount?
[03:48] <flaccid> zippo: yes
[03:48] <zippo> ok one last questin
[03:49] <flatulent> WaxyFresh:  it says switch to vesa X server because ati and nvidia use kernel modules which might not work with the new kernel
[03:49] <zippo> why does ubuntu format the HD differently?n
[03:49] <zippo> not using NTFS?
[03:49] <zippo> is it cause the instructions wont work or what?
[03:49] <Kein> Well, for some reason it's still restoring sessions. I decided to boot up on XP to clear my head for the moment, though.
[03:49] <stdin> zippo: ubuntu and kubuntu format the disk in the same way
[03:49] <flaccid> flatulent: ah i see the reason thanks for that! only problem is vesa didn't even work for him
[03:50] <flaccid> zippo: its because its not windows, its linux
[03:50] <zippo> yes but that creates a big problem
[03:50] <thomas> how can I be logged into my account and be able to see all other users files? it says that the desktop is locked, but I thought I was admin
[03:50] <flaccid> zippo: why is that
[03:50] <zippo> i have program that can only encrypt disks that are NTFS
[03:50] <zippo> drivecrypt
[03:50] <flaccid> !ntfs
[03:50] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:51] <zippo> and i wanted to have linux encrypted as well
[03:51] <flaccid> there is still ntfs support
[03:51] <flaccid> linux cannot run on ntfs
[03:51] <zippo> i know but the program wont run on linux
[03:51] <zippo> and i dont know any equal subs
[03:51] <flaccid> opengpg
[03:51] <flaccid> i mean gnupg
[03:51] <flaccid> !encryption
[03:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about encryption - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <flaccid> or encFS
[03:51] <flaccid> a few options out there, not something normal on linux
[03:52] <zippo> which one works more like drivecrypt?
[03:52] <flaccid> no idea
[03:52] <zippo> what happens if i need to recover a drive?
[03:52] <flaccid> im sure non of them work the same as drivecrypt
[03:52] <flaccid> i don't know
[03:52] <zippo> ontrack doesnt see the format linux uses
[03:52] <flaccid> recovering encrypted data is  problem whichever was it was done..
[03:52] <flaccid> ontracks problem..
[03:52] <zippo> no not encrypted
[03:52] <zippo> unencrypted
[03:52] <zippo> but ontrack wont be able to recover
[03:52] <zippo> =/
[03:52] <flaccid> yes you can recover ext2 for example
[03:53] <flaccid> who cares about ontrack
[03:53] <zippo> you can?
[03:53] <zippo> great software
[03:53] <flaccid> yes its great, but its not free
[03:53] <flaccid> zippo: google is good to get answers like these quick
[03:53] <stdin> zippo: go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ and search for encrypt, there's lots there
[03:54] <eegore> why is it that kopete will connect to msn in feisty 64 bit but will not work in kubuntu feisty 32 bit
[03:54] <flaccid> but yes you can recover ext2 usually. data recovery is not something done by a user or sysadmin usually .its a specialist area.
[03:56] <synteth> can someone give me a link that talks about important commands and how to use them well at the konsole?
[03:56] <stdin> !cli
[03:56] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:56] <flaccid> nice
[03:57] <synteth> very fast =)
[03:57] <flaccid> im going to read it myself
[03:57] <synteth> thank you
[03:57] <stdin> hmm, how many of you knew there was an ubuntu search engine? http://us.cypherbios.org/ :)
[03:57] <flaccid> w0a that page is wack stdin
[03:58] <thomas> how can I be logged into my account and be able to see all other users files? it says that the desktop is locked, but I thought I was admin
[03:58] <flaccid> stdin: doesn't even work in konqi
[03:58] <flaccid> thomas: don't repeat
[03:59] <zippo> what format does linux use?
[03:59] <stdin> !away > xera^zzz
[03:59] <zippo> for the HD that is
[03:59] <zippo> whats the name?
[03:59] <thomas> lol i asked my question like 10  minutes ago thought u didn't get it
[03:59] <stdin> flaccid: yeah, it is in beta (and I did report that :)
[03:59] <kubureaucrat_> greetings oh wise cabal of kubuntu users
[04:00] <flaccid> zippo: by default ubuntu uses the ext2 filesystem iirc
[04:00] <zippo> thanks
[04:00] <stdin> thomas: you're not an admin unless doing an admin task
[04:00] <stdin> zippo: ext3 actually
[04:00] <flaccid> thomas: people will answer if they can help
[04:00] <zippo> kk
[04:00] <kubureaucrat_> i have come to seek your wisdom regarding my cd and dvd drives usually not being recognized
[04:00] <flaccid> when did it change to ext3
[04:00] <zippo> ext3 since what version?
[04:00] <thomas> no flaccid i mean you told me not to repeat, I guess that was the bot
[04:01] <flaccid> stdin: google works fine. i don't see the point of the search engine
[04:01] <thomas> stdin: alright so I want to set up my account so I can view other sub users accounts...
[04:01] <stdin> flaccid: searches only *buntu pages, like the wiki and launchpad
[04:02] <stdin> thomas: that's to do with permissions, you have to change all the other users $HOME dirs to be word readable
[04:03] <kubureaucrat_> for example at the moment i have a cd-r in an external cd rom drive, but it is not recognized.  yes, it is connected correctly.  i have had many positive experiences with this ext cd rom drive, but generally on bootup only.  when i try to do more, it disappears like mist in the late morning.
[04:04] <thomas> stdin: yea permissions, I was in the user management thing and there are all these secondary groups, do I have to change sometime there?
[04:05] <zippo> ok thank you everyone
[04:05] <stdin> thomas: no, you have to do it manually, there's no setting for it because it's considered "insecure"
[04:05] <fildo> gone
[04:06] <thomas> stdin: lol insecure? but I''m the ROOT admin thing. LIke how are web owners suppost to be able to control useres folders
[04:06] <kubureaucrat_> will any wise wizard of the kubuntu kabal humor me in my humble kuest?
[04:06] <flaccid> stdin: ah ok you can do that in google too. but yeah if they did it web standards and it worked, it would be good :)
[04:06] <flaccid> thomas: root can do cli, but not advised for X
[04:06] <stdin> thomas: you are not root, and "web owners" would use the cli with sudo
[04:07] <thomas> lol I don't know what cli is
[04:07] <flaccid> thomas: command line interface eg. konsole
[04:07] <thomas> oh i'm dumb
[04:08] <flaccid> lol i doubt it
[04:08] <flatulent> kubureaucrat:  unplug it, wait 1 minute, plug it back in, run dmesg,  tell us what drive designation it gets
[04:08] <thomas> :) <3
[04:08] <flaccid> thomas: you can do konqueror or krusader in root mode however
[04:08] <flaccid> thomas: kdesu konqueror
[04:09] <flatulent> kubureaucrat: leave a disk in it
[04:09] <kubureaucrat_> flatulent i shall
[04:09] <flatulent> tvlistings.zap2it.com
[04:09] <czer323> Plenty of online tv guides.
[04:09] <stdin> !tv
[04:09] <ubotu> http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[04:10] <flaccid> !freeguide | sea4ever
[04:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freeguide - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <flaccid> !info freeguide | sea4ever
[04:10] <ubotu> sea4ever: freeguide: Displays TV listings. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.10.4-2 (feisty), package size 735 kB, installed size 1116 kB
[04:10] <ubuntu> Sweet
[04:10] <ubuntu> What do I need to do to get on that?
[04:10] <sea4ever> YEAH!!!
[04:10] <flaccid> get on what
[04:10] <Kubuntero> Freeguide
[04:10] <flaccid> install the package freeguide from multiverse
[04:10] <Krum> can anyone tell me how to extract .bat files on ubuntu?
[04:11] <Krum> help would be grateful
[04:11] <thomas> ok I mean when I click on the other users folders properties it says that the "group" cannot access it, but I would like to change it so that noone except me can do so, maybe I should upload a screenshot?
[04:11] <flaccid> Krum: a .bat is usually a windows batch file which is ascii text - open in text editor
[04:11] <Kubuntero> Krum: Extract? they are text files
[04:11] <stdin> Krum: .bat? that's just a script
[04:11] <Krum> it says it cannot find any program to execute it with
[04:11] <Kubuntero> How do I submit a stations info to freeguide?
[04:11] <Krum> its an unpak thing
[04:11] <Krum> _unpak.bat
[04:11] <flaccid> Krum: they cannot run on linux. its a windows batch file
[04:11] <kubureaucrat_> flatulent: [ 5320.223692]  scsi 7:0:0:0: CD-ROM            Memorex  DVD+-RAM 510L v1 MWS7 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0
[04:11] <Krum> dangitr
[04:11] <Kubuntero> Krum: Ok what are you trying to do?
[04:12] <Krum> gimme a sec...
[04:12] <flatulent> kubureaucrat: does it say anything about  sda, sdb, sdc, etc.... ?
[04:13] <kubureaucrat> flatulent moment
[04:13] <flatulent> i've had many
[04:14] <kubureaucrat> flatulent above or below the line i copiedeth above
[04:14] <DaSkreech> flaccid: Any idea?
[04:14] <flatulent> probably below
[04:14] <flaccid> DaSkreech:  on what
[04:14] <Krum> Is there any program I can run under wine to unpack this .bat file?
[04:15] <DaSkreech> flaccid: How I would get a programs content onto freeguide?
[04:15] <flaccid> Krum: the .bat will be unpacking other file(s). goto ##windows for help
[04:15] <kubureaucrat> flatulent three lines follow
[04:15] <kubureaucrat> sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[04:15] <flaccid> DaSkreech: never used it sorry
[04:15] <DaSkreech> flaccid: Ah
[04:15] <kubureaucrat> sr 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1
[04:15] <DaSkreech> flaccid: know how to remap Multimedia keys?
[04:15] <kubureaucrat> sr 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 5
[04:15] <flaccid> DaSkreech: hotkeys perhaps
[04:15] <Krum> ty
[04:15] <gundam_rx78nt1> Anybody here that has gotten a laptop to display on both outputs (LCD, Monitor) without any resolution problems?
[04:16] <flatulent> did you leave a disc in it?
[04:16] <kubureaucrat> indeed
[04:16] <DaSkreech> flaccid: ok Well Right now vol up and down maps to the headphone I need it to map to the speakers
[04:16] <gundam_rx78nt1> I need to get output on my laptop lcd and a projector.
[04:16] <flaccid> DaSkreech: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[04:16] <kubureaucrat> i do declare that, while i am fond of the help, the flaccidity and flatulence of the kubuntu kommunity does much offend
[04:16] <kubureaucrat> :)
[04:17] <flatulent> kubureaucrat: just guessing here,  mkdir /media/sr1    mount /dev/sr1 /media/sr1
[04:17] <kubureaucrat> execute those two lines?
[04:17] <DaSkreech> flaccid: Brilliant!
[04:18] <flaccid> i thought be flaccid would be less offensive than the opposing
[04:18] <kubureaucrat> 'tis offensive flaccid, 'tis offensive erect.  always 'tis offensive.
[04:19] <flaccid> i thought we lived in a pretty offensive world anyway
[04:19] <synteth> sorry again for disturbing, but what's the konsole command for "paste"?
[04:19] <flaccid> one only needs to turn on the tv
[04:19] <flaccid> synteth: shift + insert
[04:19] <DaSkreech> synteth: Sorry?
[04:19] <DaSkreech> synteth: to paste text?
[04:19] <flaccid> or right click | paste
[04:19] <synteth> to paste a file
[04:19] <DaSkreech> Shift+Inseet or midlle click
[04:20] <DaSkreech> synteth: the contents of a file or the name of a file ?
[04:20] <flaccid> need to be copied to clipboard first
[04:20] <kubureaucrat> flatulent: action was achieved.  i heard yonder external drive bustle about.
[04:20] <BluesKaj> one can always change one's nick and be offensive ...letting a flag fly in here isn't exactly the right venue, if you have some kind of cause
[04:20] <flatulent> ls /media/sr1
[04:21] <synteth> DaSkreech: i've made cp "file" "newrenamefile"
[04:21] <gundam_rx78nt1> I need to get output on my laptop lcd and a projector at the same time. Any pointers?
[04:21] <thomas> flaccid: http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/4425/snapshot1zl1.png how do I change access permissions of group there so I can view files?
[04:21] <kubureaucrat> flatulent okay it registered the contents.  however it is still not recognized on my main panel among the media.
[04:22] <flatulent> merelyeth cosmeticeth
[04:22] <synteth> DaSkreech: and it seems to create a copy of that file, and i dont now how to paste that file to another directory
[04:22] <DaSkreech> synteth: Right whAT are you trying to copy?
[04:22] <winbond> anyone ever found a stable version of kde?
[04:22] <DaSkreech> synteth: mv
[04:23] <DaSkreech> synteth: mv newfile /path/to/directory
[04:23] <kubureaucrat> flatulent okay.  but i am going to go see if k3b recognizes it.  'tis there where i have encountered most sustained problems.
[04:23] <synteth> DaSkreech: and ordinary ,kexi document
[04:23] <DaSkreech> synteth: that does a cut and paste to the new directory
[04:23] <flatulent> and good luck to you fearless adventurer
[04:23] <flaccid> thomas: did you run konqueror under kdesu like i said?
[04:23] <sea4ever> Finally, The apt-get update command finished!
[04:23] <DaSkreech> winbond: KDE 1.0
[04:23] <kubureaucrat> moment
[04:23] <flaccid> winbond: kde is more stable than you think, most of the problems are usually cos other layers
[04:24] <synteth> DaSkreech: ohh thanks, and a copy?
[04:24] <DaSkreech> synteth: cp
[04:24] <DaSkreech> synteth: cp newfile /path/to/directory
[04:24] <DaSkreech> !commands | synteth
[04:24] <ubotu> synteth: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[04:24] <thomas> flaccid: kdesu=kdesktopu?
[04:25] <flaccid> thomas: no
[04:25] <DaSkreech> !kmultimedia
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmultimedia - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <flaccid> thomas: kdesu konqueror from alt + f2
[04:25] <synteth> DaSkreech: yes, but need to write the complete path?
[04:25] <DaSkreech> !kmultimedia is Trying to get your Multimedia keyboard working in KDE? No Problem take a look at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys
[04:26] <synteth> DaSkreech: from the begining i missed to say
[04:26] <DaSkreech> synteth: not if you know the relative path
[04:26] <synteth> DaSkreech: imagine i would like to put it on my Desktop
[04:26] <synteth> DaSkreech: how should i write the path?
[04:27] <DaSkreech> synteth: So if you are copying to a directory on your Desktop called Term you would say <cp newfile Desktop/Term
[04:27] <DaSkreech> >
[04:27] <DaSkreech>  :-)
[04:27] <kubureaucrat> flatulent okay it recognized it.  yet i fear it will disappear again.  similar things have occurred with yon internal cd/dvd-r drive.  how shall i prevent the dragon of disappearance in the future, both on yon extenrnal and internal drive hards?
[04:27] <kubureaucrat> flatulent thank you
[04:27] <DaSkreech> synteth: You know absolute and relative paths ?
[04:28] <flatulent> you are welcome, but you have plumbed the depths of my knowledge
[04:28] <synteth> DaSkreech: so the cd i'm in don't have a point in the path i write? well, i don't really know. i'm just getting friend of the konsole
[04:29] <flaccid> yeah
[04:29] <thomas> flaccid: lol ok I ran it but why can't I view any folders?
[04:29] <DaSkreech> synteth: if you put a / then you are starting at the top of the tree
[04:29] <thomas> flaccid: in \root theres nothing there
[04:29] <flaccid> synteth: so if the command was makecoffee and its in your pwd (present working directory) then you can run it either by ./makecoffee or makecofee
[04:29] <DaSkreech> synteth: if you don't then you are starting from the Current Folder
[04:29] <flaccid> thomas: you probably want to go to /home
[04:30] <DaSkreech> synteth: If you have a subfolder named Desktop then just type Desktop
[04:30] <flaccid> thomas: /root is root's home
[04:30] <kubureaucrat> flatulent will you share the font of your wisdom, the cause of your action, oh wise one
[04:30] <DaSkreech> synteth: Does that make sense?
[04:31] <synteth> DaSkreech: i've writen cp Desktop
[04:32] <flaccid> to copy a folder and all its contents use cp -R myfolder
[04:32] <flaccid> cp -R myfolder /my/destination
[04:32] <DaSkreech> synteth: No you have to put the file you want to copy first then where you are copying it to
[04:32] <DaSkreech> flaccid: he is copying into Desktop
[04:32] <sea4ever> "folder 'myfolder' does not exist" <- problem.
[04:32] <flatulent> kubureaucrat: beans
[04:33] <synteth> DaSkreech: and i just moving folder to folder, my unique proble
[04:33] <synteth> ~/Desktop/isel$ cp -r /Desktop Isel.kexi
[04:33] <synteth> cp: cannot stat `/Desktop': No such file or directory
[04:33] <kubureaucrat> flatulent yet why did you tell me the wise commands you did, oh learned one
[04:33] <flaccid> my bad
[04:33] <flatulent> dmesg command will reveal such things as hotplug events.
[04:34] <DaSkreech> synteth: other way around
[04:34] <kubureaucrat> okay
[04:34] <kubureaucrat> and in making those directories we resolved something?
[04:34] <DaSkreech> synteth: what you are copying THEN where you are copying it to
[04:34] <flatulent> usually dmesg will reveal a drive designation of the form sdX, where X is a variable equalling an alphabetic character
[04:35] <flatulent> in you case it was not of  the form sdX, so I guessed the drive designation must be sr1
[04:36] <Biovore> flatulent: could be sg*
[04:36] <flatulent> guessing again that the appropriate subdirectory was not created in /media i suggest you create that
[04:36] <flatulent> then the standard mount command was suggested by I
[04:37] <flatulent> you followed faithfully all the above suggestions
[04:37] <kubureaucrat> so mayhap i should add such commands to yon autostart
[04:37] <synteth> DaSkreech: oh ok, sorry about my lame question, but no one born teach, unfortunatly :p
[04:37] <flatulent> you achieved your goal
[04:38] <flatulent> you may do as you wish, providing of course that the country in which you reside is free
[04:38] <kubureaucrat> i only achieved my goal, oh great one, because of thy wisdom
[04:38] <kubureaucrat> i mean o great one
[04:38] <kubureaucrat> i beg thee pardon my grammatical mishap
[04:39] <Deihmos> finally got ubuntu and the nvidia drivers installed. What a pain
[04:39] <Deihmos> now where can i get rid of this ugly brown desktop
[04:39] <savetheWorld> ikea
[04:39] <sea4ever> This Adept thing is great, I can sped hours downloading stuff that I will never use!
[04:39] <hydrogen> without having to search :)
[04:40] <sea4ever> "automatic mouse click" <- this is cool
[04:40] <Flatfender> While trying to install the package compizconfig-settings-manager it tells me that it doesn't exist. I'm following this walk through on installing compiz. http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-58113.shtml
[04:40] <sea4ever> "mouse odometer" <- O.o *clicks on request install*
[04:40] <DaSkreech> synteth: Ask away :)
[04:40] <hydrogen> don't do it!
[04:40] <hydrogen> knowing how many miles you put on your mouse makes you wince
[04:40] <DaSkreech> synteth: Did you get the URL ?
[04:41] <flaccid> Flatfender: #ubuntu-effects
[04:41] <DaSkreech> flaccid: ping
[04:41] <flaccid> pong
[04:42] <neptunepink> flatulent: do you want to marry me?
[04:42] <stdin> flatulent: ?
[04:42] <synteth> DaSkreech: Thanks! when a doubt appears it must be solved! yes i've bookmarked it already, i'm reading it.. i just hope to pass to the next level faster :p
[04:43] <flatulent> ?
[04:43] <evri2|purepwnage> flatulent: what is it?
[04:43] <flatulent>  /ping #kubuntu
[04:43] <evri2|purepwnage> rolf
[04:43] <DaSkreech> synteth: It's really cool when you get a handle on it
[04:43] <evri2|purepwnage> ffs
[04:43] <stdin> stop that
[04:43] <evri2|purepwnage> sorry
[04:43] <DaSkreech> flaccid: I;m reading https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys
[04:44] <hydrogen> ..
[04:44] <hydrogen> don't do that again please
[04:44] <hydrogen> ever
[04:44] <hydrogen> or i'll stab you
[04:44] <DaSkreech> It says to go to System settings -> Regional and language ?
[04:44] <sea4ever> wow...if I knew how much more my hand moves on the computer before...who needs to go run around anymore? just moving my mouse is enough exercise!
[04:44] <DaSkreech> And hydrogen is no lightweight!
[04:44] <flaccid> ok
[04:45] <DaSkreech> flaccid: Is that close to correct or am I being silly?
[04:45] <thomas> flaccid: if your still there, ok it worked thanks, but shouldn't I just log in as root all the time when I log into ubuntu. WHats the point for me to have an admin AND root account
[04:45] <synteth> DaSkreech: yes, i'm seeing that, the only problem seems to be the not enough or good tutorials about this.. it's pretty much faster with the konsole, i really like it.
[04:45] <flaccid> DaSkreech: it exists
[04:45] <DaSkreech> thomas: root is disabled unless you turn it back on
[04:45] <DaSkreech> flaccid: Yes. I know. But the keyboard shortcuts for Kmix are in there?
[04:45] <stdin> thomas: an admin account is just an account that can use root privileges, it's not root
[04:45] <flaccid> thomas: its bad practice to log in to X as root
[04:46] <flaccid> DaSkreech: i dont think i can help you sorry
[04:47] <thomas> where can I view what priveleges root has that admin doesn't
[04:47] <flaccid> thomas: root can do 'anything'. admin can run commands under root via sudo
[04:47] <neptunepink> thomas: system settings
[04:49] <c1|freaky> anyone knows  of any good tool
[04:49] <flaccid> im a good tool
[04:50] <neptunepink> LAR tools are fun
[04:50] <c1|freaky> for translation stuff
[04:50] <c1|freaky> and ... something like a applet for kicker
[04:50] <flaccid> !translation
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about translation - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <c1|freaky> for it?
[04:50] <flaccid> !translate
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about translate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <sea4ever> hellow cloud
[04:50] <cloud> hey is it possible to install suse rpms in kubuntu?
[04:50] <flaccid> !alien | cloud
[04:50] <ubotu> cloud: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:52] <thomas> neptunepink: in system settings user management you can't see what admin can and root CAN do, it's only users and groups
[04:52] <neptunepink> Well, I think what they can do is defined by what groups they are in
[04:52] <flaccid> thomas: please read what i last said.
[04:52] <flaccid> !permissions | thomas
[04:52] <ubotu> thomas: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[04:52] <flaccid> !root | thomas
[04:52] <ubotu> thomas: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:53] <neptunepink> ubotu: Do you know tao?
[04:54] <stdin> !bot
[04:54] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:55] <inaety> hello i installed kscreensaver-xsavers-extra but they added screen savers arent showing up in kcontrol
[04:56] <Deihmos> where can i get some decent themes for ubuntu
[04:56] <Deihmos> this brown thing is ugly
[04:57] <flaccid> !themes
[04:57] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[04:58] <Deihmos> ok
[04:58] <flatulent> inaety: are they available when you left click on the destop
[04:58] <Flatfender> No one seems to be able to help over at effects.. no one seems to be there.
[04:58] <Deihmos> i think that is rthe same site i visited
[04:58] <flatulent> and select configure desktop?
[04:59] <inaety> flatulent: nah
[04:59] <inaety> Flatfender: what was your problem
[04:59] <Flatfender> When trying to install the compizconfig-settings-manager it tells me that it can't find the package
[05:00] <flaccid> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[05:00] <ubotu> Package compizconfig-settings-manager does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:00] <flatulent> ewww, it did what inaety did and i had more screensavers before
[05:00] <flaccid> Flatfender: which repos is it in
[05:02] <inaety> Flatfender: run a "sudo apt-cache search compiz"
[05:02] <inaety> and see if it shows
[05:02] <inaety> flatulent: i dont understand
[05:02] <Flatfender> http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb fiesty eyecandy and http://download.tux.family.org/3v1deb fiesty eyecandy (source Code) those what you are looking for Flaccid
[05:02] <flaccid> sea4ever: no away scripts here please
[05:04] <flaccid> Flatfender: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-cache madison compizconfig-settings-manager
[05:04] <flatulent> inaety: i had a nice set of screensavers, the i installed the kscreensaver-xsavers-extra package
[05:04] <flaccid> what does the last line say, Flatfender
[05:04] <inaety> flatulent: how lame!
[05:04] <flatulent> now i have a miserble few screensavers
[05:04] <flatulent> then i installed, that is
[05:04] <inaety> flatulent: the one i want is called Intermomentary
[05:05] <Flatfender> Flaccid, do you want the line Fetched 4B in 0s (5b/S) or Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/restricted Sources
[05:06] <VinWista> hey
[05:06] <VinWista> how do i run internet explorer 7 or 6
[05:06] <flaccid> Flatfender: just output of sudo apt-cache madison compizconfig-settings-manager
[05:06] <Flatfender> I get nothing from that.
[05:07] <flaccid> Flatfender: do you get any errors when running sudo apt-get update with any repos? does the repos in question get retrieved?
[05:07] <inaety> flatulent: anything?
[05:07] <flatulent> looking
[05:07] <VinWista>     Nek se ovaj vijek gordi nad svijema vjekovima,
[05:08] <VinWista>     on e era biti strana ljudskijema koljenima.
[05:08] <VinWista>     U nj se osam blizanacah u jedan mah iznjihae
[05:08] <VinWista>     iz kolevke Belonine, i na zemlji pokazae:
[05:08] <VinWista>     Napoleon, Karlo, Bliher, knez Velington i Suvorov.
[05:08] <VinWista>     Karaore, bi tirjanah, i varcenberg i Kutuzov.
[05:08] <VinWista>     Arei je, strava zemna, slavom bojnom njih opio
[05:08] <VinWista>     i zemlju im za poprite, da se bore, naznaio.
[05:08] <VinWista>     Iz grmena velikoga lafu iza trudno nije,
[05:08] <VinWista>     u velikim narodima geniju se gnj'jezdo vije:
[05:08] <VinWista>     ovde mu je pogotovu materijal k slavnom djelu
[05:08] <inaety> WinVista must be a spammer guys!
[05:08] <VinWista>     i trijumfa dini v'jenac, da mu krasi glavu smjelu.
[05:08] <VinWista>     Al' heroju topolskome, Karaoru besmrtnome,
[05:08] <VinWista>     sve prepone na put bjehu, k cilju dospje velikome:
[05:08] <VinWista>     die narod, krsti zemlju, a varvarske lance srui,
[05:08] <tazgodx> anyone know of a decent internet spades game for linux? i tried ggz, and couldn't get it running
[05:08] <sea4ever> I don't speak German
[05:08] <cloud> how do you install a program from a jar?
[05:08] <flaccid> looks croation or something
[05:08] <Flatfender> Flaccid, I don't see any errors.
[05:08] <flaccid> cloud: #java
[05:09] <flaccid> Flatfender: not sure the problem then
[05:09] <flaccid> if its in your sources.list it should get it
[05:09] <flatulent> inaety:  i installed a few screensaver packages with adept.   its in there
[05:10] <Flatfender> Oh well, I have no idea either.
[05:10] <sea4ever> Adept is cool, too bad I have dialup though.
[05:10] <inaety> flatulent: thanks ill try
[05:12] <flatulent> inaety: part of the xscreensaver package.  i think
[05:14] <flaccid> Flatfender: can you search for it in adept_manager?
[05:15] <Flatfender> Flaccid, its not there.
[05:15] <thomas> I thought root account is DISABLED, how did I manage to log in?
[05:15] <inaety> yay flatulent it worked
[05:16] <flaccid> thomas: if you logged in by root you set a root password at some stage
[05:16] <Flatfender> I see Gnome compiz manager, but not one for KDE
[05:16] <flaccid> you want to install what exactly?
[05:17] <NickPresta> Flatfender, a gnome compiz manager?
[05:17] <Flatfender> Yes, a gnome compiz manager, but not one for KDE. Honestly I'm trying to install the 3D cube interface with the wobbly windows
[05:18] <NickPresta> Flatfender, are you using plain Compiz or Compiz Fusion?
[05:18] <thomas> flaccid: but in user management I'm only using su not root correct?
[05:18] <flaccid> why dont you try the beryl or compiz-fusion guides in the wiki?
[05:18] <Flatfender> I would prefer to use Compiz-Fusion because that's what I am familiar with
[05:18] <flaccid> thomas: user management gui should use admin mode which is not su
[05:18] <flaccid> !compiz-fusion
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz-fusion - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <flaccid> ok 1 sec
[05:19] <NickPresta> Flatfender, check out `fusion-icon`. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3163821#post3163821
[05:19] <NickPresta> Flatfender, it works great for me. YMMV
[05:19] <thomas> there's no way I can change root password using GUI?
[05:20] <flaccid> Flatfender: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[05:20] <flaccid> thomas: please read what we paste you, have shown you that already
[05:20] <flaccid> !root | thomas
[05:20] <ubotu> thomas: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:20] <thomas> i've been reading it flaccid
[05:20] <thomas> all 3 links
[05:20] <flaccid> thomas: sudo passwd root
[05:21] <flaccid> my bad its not on there
[05:21] <flaccid> probably gets taken out when someone puts it in
[05:21] <thomas> hm
[05:22] <flaccid> Flatfender: see how dif repos is in this for that package
[05:24] <mosno> what is it about kubuntu-desktop's KDE session that doesn't allow either knetworkmanager or nm-applet (the gnome network manager program) to connect to my 802.11g wireless? on Feisty.
[05:24] <flaccid> mosno: what card do you have
[05:25] <mosno> flaccid: the 802.11n card of the Santa Rosa platform
[05:25] <weber> hey
[05:25] <weber> wer isn deutsch?
[05:25] <mosno> flaccid: which the underlying NetworkManager dbus service supports fine
[05:25] <flaccid> mosno: maybe its not supported.
[05:25] <flaccid> oh
[05:25] <mosno> yea it works in Gnome with nm-applet
[05:25] <flaccid> well knetworkmanager has issues
[05:25] <flaccid> this is common
[05:25] <mosno> flaccid: damn. what's the common cause do you know?
[05:26] <madrush> can somebody explain to me how to use the -d option with apt-get to just download the .deb for a given package?
[05:26] <jmichaelx> hier wird kein deutsch geredet
[05:26] <mosno> because i keep finding a reason to switch back to Gnome and it is annoying :\
[05:26] <flaccid> someone mentioned before they are improving something that should help, but i don't know the common cause. i guess you can find it on launchpad
[05:26] <weber> ja
[05:26] <Kein> nein
[05:26] <weber> auch bemerkt
[05:26] <weber> XD
[05:26] <jmichaelx> probier mal #ubuntu-de
[05:26] <Kein> and you tripped my alert >=(
[05:26] <mosno> flaccid: thanks
[05:26] <flaccid> np
[05:26] <weber> ne bin schon kubuntu-de
[05:26] <weber> aber da is neimand
[05:26] <sea4ever> more spammers? or what?
[05:27] <jmichaelx> no
[05:27] <jmichaelx> hope not
[05:27] <stdin> !de | weber, jmichaelx
[05:27] <ubotu> weber, jmichaelx: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:27] <flaccid> nein weber
[05:27] <weber> lol
[05:27] <weber> da is nie jemand!!!
[05:27] <weber> there are no peoples!!
[05:27] <flaccid> ja das ist kaput atm
[05:28] <weber> ?
[05:28] <weber> kaputt?
[05:28] <weber> lol
[05:28] <stdin> this channel is English _only_
[05:28] <flaccid> see get in trouble now
[05:28] <jmichaelx> weber: unfortunately you'll just have to decipher the english conversations in here
[05:28] <sea4ever> O.o ...interesting.
[05:28] <weber> ok i speak english
[05:28] <sea4ever> look at it carefully stdin, you can actually understand it!
[05:28] <sea4ever> ...
[05:28] <weber> hmmm
[05:28] <flaccid> my german is bad
[05:29] <stdin> sea4ever: that's because english and german are somewhat similar
[05:29] <weber> xD
[05:29] <weber> my english is bad :P
[05:29] <sea4ever> ah, ok, *thinks that he knows 4 languages now*
[05:30] <weber> ...
[05:30] <Flatfender> OK, I think I got it to install, it allowed me the compiz --replace action this time, but I can't run ccsm which should open the setting manager
[05:31] <weber> ...
[05:31] <weber> damn
[05:32] <stdin> Flatfender: ccsm is in the compizconfig-settings-manager make sure you have that
[05:32] <weber> no good paint programms for linux
[05:32] <sea4ever> xapint?
[05:32] <stdin> !gimp
[05:32] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[05:32] <sea4ever> xpaint*
[05:33] <weber> i dont like gimp
[05:33] <weber> -.-
[05:33] <flaccid> gimp 2.3 is good
[05:33] <weber> no not for me
[05:35] <weber> i would like to have a paint programm like the paint from windows...its fast
[05:35] <Flatfender> Stdin, I know its the settings manager, I can't get the settings manager. Thats my problem :/
[05:36] <sea4ever> paint IS useful, I only used it for it's cut and paste, to make pictures for MSN messenger focus on the important stuff.
[05:36] <weber> and...what is the best msn messenger?
[05:36] <thomas> flaccid: I changed my root password using: sudo passwd root to something else, I tried kdesu konqueror and now 2 passwords work......Also Why can't root view all user files? I  mean I can't possibly remember all folder names by heart to type in address bar
[05:37] <sea4ever> best messenger is : either Gaim (Pidgin) OR Kopete (almost the same)
[05:37] <voiD_> Can amarok sync music onto an ipod?
[05:38] <unipsycho> anybody on the Openoffice.org channel?
[05:38] <weber> sea4ever i have this both
[05:38] <weber> XD
[05:39] <weber> damn...
[05:40] <weber> i downloadet xpaint...
[05:40] <flaccid> dunno thomas
[05:40] <weber> wehen i compile its do always the same...
[05:40] <weber> lol
[05:42] <weber> ops...
[05:42] <sea4ever> er..there are no ops in this channel. :S
[05:42] <fangorious> any eta on kde4 beta2?
[05:42] <weber> xD
[05:43] <stdin> fangorious: base should be installable now
[05:43] <stdin> sea4ever: why?
[05:43] <sea4ever> [23:41]  <weber> ops <--
[05:44] <stdin> sea4ever: well, there are ops in here, and I think "ops" meant "oops"
[05:44] <weber> yes
[05:44] <weber> :D
[05:44] <sea4ever> O.o O_o
[05:44] <fangorious> stdin: ok, i installed the base package and it's dependencies, the session didn't seem usable though no launchers anywhere, a weird "desktop tool" that only seemed able to launch clocks
[05:45] <stdin> fangorious: yeah, buggy isn't it :P if you have kdebase-workspace installed as well then that's the base installed
[05:46] <stdin> there's no launcher because playground/base wasn't released with beta2
[05:46] <fangorious> guess i'll try again at beta3
[05:46] <weber> oh
[05:47] <weber> its now 05:36
[05:47] <stdin> you're clocks off a bit
[05:47] <weber> ?
[05:47] <sea4ever> Time zones.
[05:48] <weber> i live in germany
[05:48] <stdin> by about 10 mins (not time zone)
[05:48] <weber> :D
[05:48] <flatulent> not necessarily, some places have different time
[05:48] <stdin> it's 4:48 GMT+1
[05:48] <weber> my other clocks show the same time
[05:48] <weber> no
[05:48] <weber> its
[05:48] <weber> gmt +2
[05:48] <weber> XD
[05:48] <weber> ???
[05:48] <weber> lol
[05:49] <weber> i am stupid
[05:49] <stdin> weber: yes, but in gmt+1 it's 4:49 (so you're +01:10)
[05:49] <weber> 5:49
[05:49] <stdin> that's better :p
[05:49] <weber> xD
[05:49] <weber> ohh
[05:50] <weber> i wrote 5:36
[05:50] <weber> xD
[05:50] <weber> it was 5:46
[05:50] <weber> XD
[05:51] <weber> ok i must sleep
[05:51] <weber> XD
[05:51] <weber> i am 13 :)
[05:51] <sea4ever> HAHAHAHA
[05:52] <sea4ever> He knows a lot of English for 13, considering that it is not his native language
[05:53] <mneptok> sea4ever: xD
[05:53] <mneptok> gorldammit.
[05:53] <mneptok> now i'm doing it.
[05:53] <mneptok> XD
[05:54] <sea4ever> xD all gone
[05:54] <stdin> except that one ^
[05:54] <mneptok> must ... not ... be ... horse's ... ass ...
[05:54] <mneptok> xD
[05:55] <sea4ever> lol
[05:55] <stdin> heh
[05:55] <sea4ever> What the?
[05:56] <mneptok> don't ask. i'm ... complicated.
[05:56] <stdin> sea4ever: mneptok has super cow powers ;)
[05:57] <sea4ever> 4 minutes until Satuday
[05:57] <mneptok> *and* i'm a horse's ass.
[05:57] <sea4ever> O.o *munches on a burger*
[05:57] <mneptok> which pretty much covers the whole pasture someone should have put me out to yaers ago.
[05:58] <sea4ever> Is there an alarm clock anywhere on Kubuntu?
[05:58] <stdin> kalarm
[05:59] <flatulent> tea time
[05:59] <flatulent> tea timer
[05:59] <flaccid> !find alarm
[05:59] <ubotu> Found: kalarm, bmp-alarm, xmms-alarm
[05:59] <sea4ever> I see a KArm <- is that it?
[05:59] <mneptok> !info xD
[05:59] <ubotu> Package xd does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:59] <mneptok> :(
[06:00] <flaccid> you can do an !info on each of those results which are packages
[06:00] <stdin> !info kalarm
[06:00] <ubotu> kalarm: KDE alarm message, command and email scheduler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu6 (feisty), package size 644 kB, installed size 1892 kB
[06:00] <Flatfender> Ok, I have all the compiz fusion stuff installed, but the desktop isn't a cube.. is there something I missed?
[06:00] <sea4ever> O.o
[06:01] <sea4ever> ah, "at" command works fine, just like in Windows.
[06:01] <stdin> windows stole that
[06:02] <sea4ever> I don't really care who owned it first, it's an ALARM, one of the most simple things ever.
[06:02] <sea4ever> everyone has one (except me my watch died)
[06:05] <mneptok> !find gnome compiz | Flatfender
[06:05] <ubotu> flatfender: Found: abiword-gnome, abiword-plugins-gnome, bluez-gnome, compiz-gnome, dia-gnome (and 600 others)
[06:05] <mneptok> grr
[06:05] <mneptok> there's a GNOME Campiz configurbator app
[06:05] <mneptok> *Compiz
[06:05] <stdin> shame he's running KDE then
[06:06] <sea4ever> nothing is better than Kate
[06:06] <Flatfender> I was thinking that about running KDE
[06:06] <mneptok> yeah, but i believe it will still toggle some behaviors. but thinking, the desktop cube seems unlikely.
[06:07] <mneptok> the desktop itself is particular.
[06:07] <mneptok> i think it works for Compiz internals.
[06:07] <moparisthebest> can anyone tell me how to disable IPv6?
[06:08] <moparisthebest> ive tried a few tuts I found on google and rebooted, none of them have worked so far
[06:08] <stdin> !ipv6
[06:08] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[06:08] <sea4ever> My mouse has moved 101 Meters so far.
[06:12] <sea4ever> Now, why in the name of PurpleBeard's brothers does everything begin with 'K' ?? It's annoying
[06:13] <flaccid> kde
[06:14] <stdin> and everything in gnome start with a G, like gedit and gksu and ... gnome :p
[06:14] <moparisthebest> thanks stdin, that did it
[06:14] <sea4ever> Ya, gnomreetris
[06:14] <flaccid> sea4ever: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE originally it was for 'Kool'
[06:14] <moparisthebest> I had tried the alternative method that proposed a few different ways and none worked
[06:14] <sea4ever> who was the fool that changed it FROM Kool?
[06:15] <sea4ever> kool is MUCH better
[06:15] <flaccid> haha
[06:16] <hydrogen> gnome actually stands for something though
[06:16] <hydrogen> its a crazy acronym
[06:18] <sea4ever> Giant Nose Of Magnificent EWWWW
[06:18] <sea4ever> heh.
[06:18] <stdin> GNU Network Object Model Environment, like that actually means anything
[06:18] <Dr-Willis> hmm
[06:18] <sea4ever> that's nothing...
[06:19] <flaccid> network heh
[06:19] <sea4ever> theres an exam I have to take in 2 months, CXC...it means Caribbean Examinations Counsil. Tell me what suggests that it's an exam?
[06:20] <stdin> "Examinations" : seems like it's an exam to me
[06:20] <Dr-Willis> or a colon test for cancer. :)
[06:21] <Dr-Willis> Im always A-, i want to get an A+ someday@!
[06:21] <Dr-Willis> :)
[06:21] <flaccid> im Z-
[06:21] <sea4ever> if you read it from the meaning, you would think that it is the NAME of the organization, who set the Exam
[06:22] <sea4ever> or : "I have to do a Caribbean Examinations Council"
[06:22] <flaccid> offtopic heh
[06:23] <Dr-Willis> as offtopic as me getting mad at Vista for not playing nice with samba... :)
[06:23] <stdin> have a peek in #ubuntu and watch the lines fly by
[06:23] <Dr-Willis> I see the shares from linux... then poof they vanish..
[06:24] <flaccid> haha
[06:24] <hydrogen> ..
[06:24] <hydrogen> feel free to take this to #-offtopic at any point
[06:25] <flaccid> im off for a while cia0
[06:26] <sea4ever> there is an empty channel there!
[06:27] <stdin> sea4ever: he meant #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:27] <sea4ever> oh.
[06:31] <Dr-Willis> !info samba
[06:31] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 3262 kB, installed size 7992 kB
[06:35] <encom> #UBUNTU-ES
[06:38] <Dr-Willis> Hmm.
[06:42] <winbond> i need to choose buslogic or lsi logic for scsi on a vm, how do i know which one to schoose? by the way , i dont have any scsi devices
[06:42] <stdin> choose either, it doesn't really matter
[06:46] <titanix88> howdy
[06:46] <sea4ever> Hi
[06:46] <luc__> o
[06:46] <Dr-Willis> Moo
[06:47] <Dr-Willis> :)
[06:47] <titanix88> Dr-Willis:)
[06:48] <Dr-Willis> :)
[06:48] <Dr-Willis> at least i THINk i got samba working with it better now.
[06:49] <titanix88> i used to play painkiller with wine .9.34 but with 0.9.44 it does nou work.
[06:51] <surgy> yes he will stab you in your back...... :(
[06:51] <surgy> j/k
[06:52] <titanix88> anyone got my prblm?
[06:52] <Dr-Willis> Check the wine web site for compatiabilty notes?
[06:53] <titanix88> no
[06:53] <Dr-Willis> Painkiller was such a neat game in ways.. and SOOOOOOOOOOO annoying in others. :)
[06:54] <titanix88> it should not happen this way :(
[06:57] <makuseru> hi, im having a problem with audacity, when i try to playback somthing it says "Error while opening sound device, Please check the output device and sample rate" what does this mean and how can i fix this
[06:57] <Dr-Willis> Hmm.
[06:58] <Dr-Willis> lets me see if i can find a bot factid for ya.
[06:58] <Dr-Willis> !alsa
[06:58] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:58] <stdin> audacity is probably using OSS, not ALSA
[06:58] <Dr-Willis> stdin:  yea. I agree with ya there.
[06:58] <makuseru> no
[06:58] <makuseru> its using ALSA for playback
[06:58] <makuseru> OSS for recording
[06:59] <makuseru> i have sound
[06:59] <makuseru> just not when playing back with audacity
[06:59] <makuseru> i checked what divices i could use for playback but thats all thats in the box
[07:01] <makuseru> any ideas?
[07:02] <stdin> try asking in #audacity
[07:02] <makuseru> theres just like 3 peolpe in there
[07:03] <stdin> there's a wiki too http://audacityteam.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
[07:04] <sea4ever> I AM HERE AND I AM WATCHING YOU ALL!!!
[07:04] <stdin> erm
[07:04] <stdin> !caps
[07:04] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:05] <Dr-Willis> moo!
[07:07] <sea4ever> oh, sorry
[07:07] <sea4ever> Ah, I see we have a cow among us.
[07:08] <Dr-Willis> ] ''eat more chicken!'
[07:08] <Dr-Willis> :)
[07:09] <Dr-Willis> bye all.
[07:11] <sea4ever> Dr-Willis?
[07:11] <sea4ever> er...
[07:12] <titanix88> our favourite moo is goone....:' (
[07:13] <xp_killer> stdin: i got problem with the destop slowing down everytime i put something to download.i wonderin if it's not eaten my ram.
[07:13] <titanix88> irc is a old protocol.
[07:13] <sea4ever> That was strange, "Eat More Chicken" is practically my catch phrase, along with moo! I say them all the time, at the most random of times, he knows me!
[07:14] <sea4ever> actually...just plain "Chicken" is the catch phrase...
[07:14] <titanix88> i know apt-get says a lot moo too!
[07:16] <titanix88> xp_killer: use wget.
[07:16] <xp_killer> !offtopic | sea4ever
[07:16] <ubotu> sea4ever: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:16] <xp_killer> titanix88: wa is wget?a download maneger?
[07:17] <Dr_willis> Muu! - frogot this pc was on. :)
[07:17] <Dr_willis> Night!
[07:18] <titanix88> xp_killer:yes but sli. u will love it. "wget -c url" givf this.
[07:18] <titanix88> cli i mean:)
[07:19] <xp_killer> titanix88:  wget -c url" givf this??? type that in a konsole?
[07:19] <titanix88> read wget manual. it rocks! got to go.
[07:20] <titanix88> "wget -c link_location"
[07:21] <titanix88> by for now!
[07:39] <bluesurf> hello im having trouble getting a ps/2 mouse to work in kubuntu, it used to work in winxp, im kind of a kubuntu newbie.. can anyone help please?
[07:39] <bluesurf> the mouse lights up but the pointer dosent move or click....
[07:51] <dsmith_> anyone awake?
[07:51] <maverick> yeah
[07:51] <maverick> :D
[07:53] <dsmith_> this place is normally cranking
[07:53] <dsmith_> I was beginning to wonder
[07:53] <maverick> not really
[07:53] <dsmith_> I guess in a few months it will be so after the release of 7.10
[07:54] <maverick> yeah am already drooling for kde4
[07:54] <dsmith_> i keeping stories about kde4
[07:54] <maverick> but i guess kde4 won't be available in 7.10
[07:54] <dsmith_> nope
[07:54] <maverick> did u try it?
[07:55] <dsmith_> imo, i do believe that kde is a way beter interface then gnome
[07:55] <dsmith_> long ago
[07:55] <dsmith_> like an aplha version I believe
[07:56] <maverick> and what do u think?
[07:56] <dsmith_> *shrug*
[07:56] <dsmith_> nothing exciting
[07:56] <maverick> really ?!
[07:56] <maverick> why is that?
[07:57] <dsmith_> well, i did not play with long enough I suppose
[07:57] <maverick> i thought it's so totally new things
[07:57] <maverick> sleak look
[07:57] <dsmith_> i know
[07:57] <dsmith_> yea
[07:57] <maverick> and i like the new window manager
[07:57] <maverick> coz it's like gnome's and i like gnome's window managr
[07:57] <dsmith_> ubuntu with its 6 month release cycles gets me excited
[07:57] <dsmith_> :)
[07:58] <maverick> yeah
[07:58] <maverick> i like kde for productivity
[07:58] <maverick> but i duno somehow gnome's look attracts me :)
[07:59] <dsmith_> i had someone tell me that they would never try Ubuntu, as its from South African
[07:59] <dsmith_> what an ignorant person
[07:59] <dsmith_> I about died laughing
[07:59] <maverick> haha
[07:59] <winbond> i cant wait for kde4, its gonna be da bomb
[07:59] <dsmith_> im like so?
[07:59] <dsmith_> ubuntu is based on debian distro
[07:59] <dsmith_> very stable
[08:00] <dsmith_> told me they will continue to use xp and I asked what hapens after 2014?
[08:00] <dsmith_> kde4 does look nice
[08:01] <maverick> i've been trying to use linux since grade 11
[08:01] <dsmith_> im 36
[08:01] <maverick> slackware was my first, can u imagine ???
[08:01] <maverick> :D
[08:01] <dsmith_> tried redhat back at version 7
[08:02] <sea4ever> MWAM!
[08:02] <maverick> i tried fedora and suse and mandriva
[08:02] <dsmith_> then ver. 8
[08:02] <dsmith_> fedora is nice, but reminds me of RH
[08:02] <dsmith_> ick
[08:04] <maverick> i don't like redhat a lot
[08:04] <bluesurf> hello im having trouble getting a ps/2 mouse to work in kubuntu, it used to work in winxp, im kind of a kubuntu newbie.. can anyone help please?
[08:04] <bluesurf> the mouse lights up but the pointer dosent move or click....
[08:04] <maverick> am more of a debian and slackware ...going to unix open bsd and free bsd
[08:05] <maverick> bluesurf: write dmesg in konsole
[08:05] <maverick> and pastebin your last 10 lines
[08:06] <bluesurf> well i cant paste bin cause my linux box isnt connected to internet, thats another problem for another time...
[08:07] <bluesurf> im on my winxp machine now
[08:07] <purpleposeidon> bluesurf: do you have a floppy drive or something like that on both machines?
[08:08] <bluesurf> well i can use my flash drive hold on might take a few mins...
[08:08] <intelikey> have an error   fusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: No such file or directory
[08:08] <KDEfanboy> dsmith_: what about kde4 are you looking forward to
[08:08] <intelikey> can someone that has that device please "ls -l /dev/fuse"  and show me the output
[08:08] <intelikey> ?
[08:09] <stdin> intelikey: crw-rw---- 1 root fuse 10, 229 2007-09-03 21:17 /dev/fuse
[08:09] <intelikey> ty
[08:09] <KDEfanboy> intelikey: modprobe fuse?
[08:09] <intelikey> i have to make the device node
[08:10] <KDEfanboy> oic, mknod
[08:10] <KDEfanboy> well im a bit bummed that kde4 beta2 packages didnt work
[08:11] <maverick> i did wht's written in kubuntu.org to install kde4 but didn't work
[08:11] <dsmith_> KDEfanboy: I did not run the aplha long enough to make a conclusion
[08:12] <dsmith_> but I would expect a way imporved GUI
[08:12] <dsmith_> *improved
[08:12] <KDEfanboy> dsmith_: applications or desktop gui?
[08:12] <KDEfanboy> ya.. plasmoids are broken
[08:12] <dsmith_> kde
[08:13] <KDEfanboy> it's not finding the plasmoid services..looks like it's packaged incorrectly
[08:13] <dsmith_> KDEfanboy: I think the application base is fine, the gui could always be improved from what it is now. So LONG as they dont wreck the interface with bloat
[08:13] <stdin> maverick: helps is you way what didn't work...
[08:13] <dsmith_> purpl
[08:13] <dsmith_> purpleposeidon: lol
[08:13] <KDEfanboy> dsmith_: the desktop gui looks a lot different ..hm like what is a good example
[08:14] <purpleposeidon> that'd be way more useful the poly-desktopia
[08:14] <dsmith_> KDEfanboy: I am not sure, how does one innovate whats great already?
[08:14] <maverick> stdin:firsty "kdebase-worspace" is broken, and when i try alpha1 it installs "kde4base-dev" and everything is fine and i can't get to add kde4 option in the session type menu
[08:15] <KDEfanboy> dunno..thinks can always be better
[08:15] <KDEfanboy> but im wondering what attracts people most to kde4
[08:15] <dsmith_> beryl/compiz are nice 8buggy8 products :)
[08:15] <stdin> maverick: it's been fixed, how long ago did you try
[08:15] <dsmith_> kde is a superior interface then gnome
[08:16] <maverick> stdin: then it must have been fixed right now
[08:16] <KDEfanboy> dsmith_: but why
[08:16] <maverick> coz i tried 1 hour ago
[08:16] <maverick> and now it works :D
[08:16] <KDEfanboy> maverick: you trying kde4 beta2?
[08:16] <maverick> KDEfanboy: yeah
[08:16] <KDEfanboy> it's broken
[08:16] <stdin> maverick: you probably just had to wait for your mirror to update
[08:16] <dsmith_> KDEfanboy: good question, the way things are layed out in kde vs gnome in general
[08:16] <maverick> KDEfanboy: update your mirrors
[08:17] <maverick> KDEfanboy: it works
[08:17] <KDEfanboy> dsmith_: hm give a few examples
[08:18] <winbond> any good guides on how to make kde look bad ass?
[08:18] <OOXML_sux> KDEfanboy: the one I love is having the ability to open a terminal session in the folder you are browsing
[08:18] <maverick> when adobe apps and matlab and agilnet apps and all the simulation apps integrate in linux , i swear to god no windows at all
[08:18] <OOXML_sux> winbond: define bad ass
[08:18] <KDEfanboy> maverick: hm i dont see any updates. i have 3.93.0-0ubuntu2~feisty3 . you on gutsy?
[08:19] <maverick> KDEfanboy: no, i just did try to install "kdebase-workspace" now and it worked...
[08:19] <KDEfanboy> of kdebase-workspace
[08:19] <hangthedj_server> winbond: check out www.kde-look.org
[08:19] <KDEfanboy> maverick: you have plasmoids working?
[08:19] <maverick> am still installing it
[08:19] <KDEfanboy> OOXML_sux: ok that's with dolphin i assume. what else
[08:19] <stdin> KDEfanboy: 3.93.0-0ubuntu2~feisty3 is out, mirrors are probably still updating (some take ages)
[08:19] <bluesurf> maverick, http://pastebin.com/m4b9f42e4
[08:20] <maverick> KDEfanboy: you can remove the mirrors from your sources list if u can't wait
[08:20] <maverick> :P
[08:20] <KDEfanboy> maverick: oh. once it installs, im thinking plasmoids wont work
[08:20] <KDEfanboy> stdin: thats what i have
[08:20] <stdin> KDEfanboy: if you mean the lack of a launcher, that's nothing to do with kubuntu and we can't fix that
[08:20] <maverick> KDEfanboy: and why is that?
[08:20] <maverick> bluesurf: readin...
[08:21] <bluesurf> maverick, can u see my pastebin?
[08:22] <maverick> yeah
[08:22] <bluesurf> ok
[08:22] <KDEfanboy> stdin: probably, whatever is saying object cant be created plasmoids. getting plasma(16858)/kio (KTrader) KServiceTypeTrader::defaultOffers: query for serviceType  "Plasma/Applet"  : returning  0  offers
[08:22] <OOXML_sux> kde
[08:23] <OOXML_sux> KDEfanboy: Ummm... in comparing gnome vs kde, i find the user interface to be friendlier
[08:23] <stdin> KDEfanboy: yep, that's not our fault :P that's because the plasmoids that make the launcher aren't in the beta2 release
[08:23] <intelikey> i don't think i like fusermount.
[08:23] <SilentDis> hello
[08:23] <OOXML_sux> i dont have the specifics off the top of my head
[08:23] <maverick> bluesurf: did you dmesg right after you plugged your mouse ?
[08:23] <maverick> maverick: or you mouse has been plugged since forever ?
[08:24] <hangthedj_server> intelikey: what fs are you trying to mount?
[08:24] <OOXML_sux> some of the ppl that I had do comparisons both on gnome and kde that were new, liked kde better
[08:24] <maverick> bluesurf: i wan t you to unplug your mouse and then plug it again and then dmesg...just to see the effect of plugginf your mouse
[08:24] <holycow> all the peple i've ever tested on gnome versus kde liked gnome better
[08:24] <bluesurf> maverick, the mouse i currently have plugged in is a working usb mouse not the problamatic mouse
[08:25] <maverick> bluesurf: also am reading about a bug with ps2 mouse on sis 630 chipsets which you appear to have....
[08:25] <holycow> mostly because it had fewer options and less choices
[08:25] <holycow> however that really doesn't answer any useability questions
[08:25] <holycow> it only answers useability questions for one type of user profile
[08:25] <SilentDis> i have a bit of an odd problem.  I'm trying to get a Motorazr V3a cellphone recognized in Kubuntu 7.04 as a modem.  OS sees the device connected, but doesn't assign it a port in /dev.  from my googling... it appears USB ACM isn't enabled on my kernel, is this the case for the 2.6.20-16-generic kernel?
[08:25] <mintsoup> my main problem with kde was actually that windows were displayed in two rows on the taskbar instead of one
[08:25] <maverick> bluesnarf: yeah but i want you to plug in the ps2 mouse and then dmesg (dmesg gives me how the system responded to your ps2 mouse and this helps alot )
[08:26] <hangthedj_server> mintsoup: you can change that.
[08:26] <mintsoup> well i've gotten used to it now ;) but how?
[08:26] <bluesurf> maverick, ok i will do this, no problem , i will do this give me a minute...
[08:26] <KDEfanboy> stdin: ;) ah ok well that's good that the reason is know..odd that the release would miss those components. hm wonder how much effort it would be to get those compiled and installed..i may try it..
[08:27] <maverick> bluesurf: wait
[08:27] <hangthedj_server> mintsoup: right click on the taskbar and configure panel, then choose size
[08:27] <stdin> KDEfanboy: that aren't in any package, it's in the svn trunk/playground/base (and they don't want to compile for me)
[08:27] <KDEfanboy> OOXML_sux: ok so youre looking at the interface generally.. from usability
[08:27] <maverick> bluesurf: apparently it's a bug and has been fixed by patching the lates kernel
[08:27] <maverick> bluesurf: here's the link to the bu report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/108221
[08:28] <maverick> bluesurf: and here's the link to the patched kernel http://people.ubuntu.com/~pkl/ps2
[08:28] <mintsoup> oh yeah i also forgot that i don't like how the window titles fade out to the right instead of just cutting off on the taskbar.. any way to change that?
[08:28] <KDEfanboy> stdin: ah good. was it code errors that prevent compiling for you?
[08:28] <SilentDis> a quick look through /boot/config-2.6.20-16-generic shows "CONFIG_USB_ACM=m", what does the 'm' stand for in a kernel config?
[08:28] <stdin> KDEfanboy: yeah
[08:28] <hangthedj_server> mintsoup: sorry that never bugged me so i'm not sure ;)
[08:28] <stdin> SilentDis: module
[08:29] <SilentDis> stdin: so i should be able to modprobe it, right?
[08:29] <stdin> SilentDis: yep
[08:30] <SilentDis> stdin: any idea what the module name is for usb_acm?
[08:30] <hangthedj_server> i guess mintsoup was tired of listening to me, left awfull quick.
[08:30] <hangthedj_server> :(
[08:30] <KDEfanboy> ok... playground/base sounds like it depends on kde4 libs..and coding errors..i sure dont feel like giving it a shot then..ah well
[08:31] <KDEfanboy> i think ill go play with dolphin tho ;)
[08:31] <stdin> SilentDis: cdc-acm I think
[08:31] <hangthedj_server> i just uninstalled dolphin
[08:31] <stdin> dolphin will probably be default in gutsy
[08:31] <maverick> bluesurf: the atched kernel link is broken...am searching for another place............
[08:31] <KDEfanboy> hangthedj_server: what did you think of it
[08:31] <hangthedj_server> it was getting inbetween me and konq
[08:32] <KDEfanboy> lol
[08:32] <hangthedj_server> it was ok
[08:32] <KDEfanboy> i love konq.. hope it replaces it and makes default tho
[08:32] <hangthedj_server> but even if i changed the default action to open folders to konq, dolphin still opened the folder.
[08:32] <maverick> stdin: now that i finished installing kdebase-workspace...wht;s next
[08:32] <hangthedj_server> and that made me mad.
[08:32] <se7en^Of^9> dolphin is cool
[08:32] <maverick> i shoul creat a new kde4desktop and change the enteries, i did that ad nothing happened....:S
[08:32] <stdin> maverick: nothing, just follow the rest of the instructions on the announcement
[08:33] <maverick> se7en^Of^9: indeed very cool
[08:33] <maverick> maverick: it's frustarting the the session doesn;t appear in the session menu thought i literatly follow the instructions
[08:33] <SilentDis> stdin: aargh, still not getting a port, any suggestions?
[08:33] <ch40s> whats the command to exit xserver so i can install my nvidia drives
[08:33] <_2> stdin just how convoluted is this FUSE (file system in user space) anyway ?    looks like rootkit gone soure, then converted into an app... ?
[08:34] <hangthedj_server> anybody know if dscl has been ported to linux?
[08:34] <stdin> _2: it's not that bad :p
[08:34] <_2> you sure ???    :)
[08:35] <stdin> SilentDis: no, never tried it
[08:35] <ch40s> whats the command to exit xserver so i can install my nvidia drives
[08:35] <ch40s> ?
[08:35] <maverick> stdin : "Run some programmes. Plasma seems to work and will run over kdesktop happily. Good luck." <--- run them where when i log on kde4 ???
[08:35] <_2> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[08:35] <_2> ch40s ^
[08:35] <ch40s> ty _2
[08:36] <stdin> _2: it can be dangerous if the right (wrong) filesystem is created I guess..
[08:36] <maverick> stdin: and i can't find "/usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop"
[08:36] <stdin> maverick: _read_ it :)
[08:36] <SilentDis> stdin: well, at least i know that i won't have to kernel recompile, thank you for that at least :)
[08:36] <maverick> stdin: now it's there, sorry for the nagging
[08:37] <_2> stdin i can mount the entire remote system   there is no restrictions...
[08:37] <maverick> brb
[08:37] <stdin> _2: you can scp the entire remote system, what's the difference?
[08:38] <stdin> _2: and with ssh you can run commands...
[08:38] <bluesurf> maverick, http://pastebin.com/m430175ad
[08:38] <_2> stdin yeah but rm -r /fuse/mountpoint/*
[08:38] <_2> heh
[08:39] <stdin> _2: that would only work if the user you logged in as has permission to do that
[08:39] <maverick> stdin: when i logon kde4..gives black screen and then brings me back to the login screen, any ideas??
[08:39] <KDEfanboy> can kwin's composite manager be used in kde beta2? looking how to turn it on..thats another big thing im waiting for
[08:39] <stdin> _2: just like ssh/scp
[08:39] <bluesurf> maverick, http://pastebin.com/m430175ad
[08:41] <stdin> _2: the permissions you see in the mount are just "mapped", you are still just logged in as the user over ssh
[08:42] <KDEfanboy> found the aquamarine settings but dont see how to turn it on..ah well heh
[08:42] <_2> ah it retains the permissions on the host...    wheeew    i was beginning to wonder
[08:43] <maverick> bluesurf: am reading about a bug with ps2 mouse on sis 630 chipsets which you appear to have....
[08:43] <_2> stdin right.   i was testing /hacking with it    the perms are enforced from the remote end...   that's good.
[08:43] <maverick> bluesurf: apparently it's a bug and has been fixed by patching the lates kernel
[08:43] <maverick> bluesurf: here's the link to the bu report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/108221
[08:44] <stdin> _2: yeah, I wouldn't use it if it was that dangerous, I don't trust myself enough :p
[08:44] <maverick> bluesurf: read the posts you will find solutions there
[08:44] <bluesurf> maverick, thank you very much!!!
[08:44] <bluesurf> youve been a big help!
[08:45] <maverick> bluesurf: you're welcome
[08:45] <_2> yeah    even as it is it's still just a little  permiscuous    imo   but i haven't explored it well yet
[08:47] <hangthedj_server> ls
[08:47] <maverick> stdin: do u have the mid, will and power to help with kde4 beta 2 small problem in installation ??
[08:47] <hangthedj_server> oops
[08:47] <_2> stdin as to the ssh argument.   i agree,   but!  one doesn't have to have any ssh rights to use an nfs mount   thus nfs and sshfs are in totally different catagories in that reguard.    i can see where nfs could be much more secure.
[08:48] <_2> that ^ from the server perspective.  not the client.
[08:48] <stdin> _2: yes, it's not a replacement by any means. but if you just want a nice quick way to work with files on a remote system (without having to "login"), it's nice
[08:49] <KDEfanboy> maverick: did you edit the startkde file?
[08:49] <_2> i can see a good client argument in the oppisite dirrection too
[08:49] <stdin> maverick: ^ what KDEfanboy said :p
[08:50] <_2> stdin errr you still have to "log in"   via ssh  when mounting the sshfs.    even if you use sshkeys.
[08:50] <stdin> _2: that's why I put quotes around it :p
[08:50] <maverick> stdin: you keep on impressing  me  :D
[08:51] <_2> stdin did you see my temp converter ?
[08:52] <stdin> _2: yeah
[08:52] <_2> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39427
[08:52] <_2> that ?
[08:53] <_2> heh   way less than i though it would take.     but it does round to the intiger
[08:53] <stdin> _2: ahh, the "POSIX" one :p
[08:54] <_2> yes
[08:55] <stdin> _2: ohh, by the way, I think I figured out how to get a C++ app to figure out it's basename, so I'll have a go at that later :p
[08:56] <maverick> KDEfanboy: everything in there went messy
[08:57] <maverick> KDEfanboy: object not found messages everywhere, and probably kicker didn;t start
[08:57] <_2> stdin cool :)     i have seen binaries that do use symlinks so i know it can be done.
[08:57] <KDEfanboy> welcome to beta2!
[08:57] <_2> bash / sh  for example
[08:58] <stdin> _2: yeah, I just didn't know how, but I think I have it now. though I've had to put down my book as i'm skipping a few chapters there :p
[09:03] <antosha> How do i switch between languages at the login promt. (I use two input laguages english and russian.)
[09:04] <holycow> allright
[09:04] <holycow> so someone explain to me why you cant just kill .kde from ~/ and restart x again?
[09:04] <maverick> KDEfanboy: but this also happened in beta1
[09:05] <KDEfanboy> maverick: oh?
[09:05] <maverick> KDEfanboy: nothing works...just the desktop and the clock
[09:05] <KDEfanboy> maverick: maybe itll be there ni 3
[09:05] <KDEfanboy> maverick: howd ya get a clock?!
[09:05] <stdin> maverick: kicker isn't in beta3
[09:05] <stdin> maverick: beta2 rather
[09:06] <antosha> Now to login i use the console. :( Once i login i startx and in kde i can switch languages esily. So how can i switch them at the login screen?
[09:06] <maverick> KDEfanboy: just got the mouse to the top up left corner where the menu pops and you double click on the clock word
[09:06] <KDEfanboy> oh wow..1sec
[09:07] <antosha> The hot keays used once i login do not work while i am logging in.
[09:07] <KDEfanboy> maverick: coo
[09:07] <KDEfanboy> l
[09:08] <maverick> KDEfanboy: does kde4 work fine on ur machine
[09:08] <maverick> ?
[09:09] <antosha> How do i switch between languages at the login screen? (I use two input laguages english and russian.)
[09:09] <KDEfanboy> maverick: no i told ya plasmoids arent working
[09:09] <maverick> KDEfanboy: aside from plasmoids
[09:09] <maverick> KDEfanboy: or is kde4 just a plasmoid or what ?:D
[09:10] <KDEfanboy> maverick: well thats one thing i was looking forward to. without a working desktop it's hard to see what there is to it. try dolphin
[09:10] <garfield_> !wget
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wget - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:11] <maverick> KDEfanboy: can i install dolphi on fesity...i can;t even begin to tell how much i hate konq now   :S
[09:11] <KDEfanboy> press alt f2
[09:11] <KDEfanboy> type dolphin
[09:14] <antosha> The hot keys used once i login do not work while i am logging in.
[09:16] <kaminix|benkyou> I want to make a script that autoumounts a directory and mounts an iso-file specified by the user. Can I do this with something like sudo umount /media/whatever && sudo mount -t iso 9660 <argument set for the script> /media/whatever, where <argument set for the script> is for example ARG in "scriptname ARG"?
[09:16] <kaminix|benkyou> Oh, and the -o loop
[09:22] <zipper> In X, the resolution is fine (1280x1024) but when i have to log in using KDM, it's not. It seems like it's zoomed in, and when i move my curser to the sides the image "scrolls". Think it's called "Virtual something" in xorg.conf? Anyway, anyone know how to fix this?
[09:29] <antosha> How do i switch between languages at the login screen? (I use two input laguages english and russian.)
[09:32] <xp_killer> antosha: dont know about changin that at the login but to change language go in system settings
[09:36] <antosha> Ye, i can switch languages once i login esialy. But that is once i login. At the login screen the same hotkeys used to switch the input language do not work.
[09:37] <combinio> how to check out which version of FGLRX i have currently?
[09:39] <combinio> btw. i've heard that there is commin' out fglrx 8.4 soon which works with AIGLX... is that true? and if yes - when it's gonna happen ? :] 
[09:39] <titanix88> combinio just did!
[09:40] <combinio> titanix88: what just did ? ;>
[09:40] <combinio> is this currently available ? :)
[09:40] <intelikey> what's the conversion                             Kelvin temperature conversion formulas
[09:40] <intelikey>                      To find          From                 Formula
[09:40] <intelikey>                  Celsius         kelvin          DEGC = K  - 273.15
[09:40] <intelikey>                  kelvin          Celsius         K = DEGC + 273.15
[09:40] <intelikey>                  Rankine         kelvin          DEGR = K  * 1.8
[09:40] <intelikey>                  kelvin          Rankine         K = DEGR - 1.8
[09:40] <intelikey>                  Fahrenheit      kelvin          DEGF = (K  * 1.8)  - 459.67
[09:41] <titanix88> yes.heard it is tons faster.
[09:41] <intelikey> wooops.
[09:41] <combinio> ok, i figured out that i have FGLRX 8.34.8... can't wait for 8.4 :D:D
[09:41] <combinio> !pastebin | intelikey
[09:41] <ubotu> intelikey: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:42] <intelikey> what's the conversion   Kelvin to Celsius ?
[09:42] <combinio> titanix88: oh.. that way... sure AIGLX can't be compare to this shit called XGL... but FGLRX doesn't work with AIGLX unforunately :/
[09:42] <combinio> YET
[09:42] <llutz> intelikey: you pasted it above: Celsius         kelvin          DEGC = K  - 273.15
[09:42] <combinio> but since version 8.4 it's gonna be changed <LOL>
[09:42] <intelikey> yeah  that's it...  ty
[09:42] <llutz> intelikey: 0C =-273.15K
[09:43] <combinio> !ATI
[09:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:44] <stdin> agh, I'm beginning to dislike cpp
[09:46] <titanix88> what's the best way to start linux development?scripting?
[09:47] <llutz> titanix88: read advanced bash scripting guide and practise, practise, practise...
[09:47] <stdin> requirements for linux development: 1) give up all social life, 2) *read* 3) practice
[09:49] <llutz> wtf is "social life"? ;)
[09:49] <stdin> something others have :)
[09:50] <llutz> must be newmodern thing, never heard about
[09:50] <intelikey> so would     (5/9F)  310 = K    be an acurate conversion less the decimal ?
[09:51] <intelikey> that                +
[09:51] <robin_> hi all
[09:52] <titanix88> abs guide drove me nuts. i use mini howto abt bash.
[09:53] <llutz> intelikey: TK = (TF + 459.67)  1.8
[09:54] <llutz> intelikey: see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit
[09:55] <intelikey> ?
[09:55] <winbond> combinio, 8.4 is already released
[09:55] <mauri>  Hi all, i'm not be able to use my webcam..someone can help me?
[09:55] <combinio> winbond: yeap... downloaded
[09:56] <combinio> winbond: but can u tell me something... ummm... if i have already installed 8.34 how can i install those 8.4 ?? :] 
[09:56] <titanix88> intellikey programming?
[09:56] <stdin> !webcam | mauri
[09:56] <ubotu> mauri: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:56] <winbond> combinio, its just not the good one yet
[09:56] <stdin> titanix88: scripting
[09:56] <combinio> what u mean ?
[09:57] <intelikey> llutz   (K  * 1.8)  - 459.67 = F        but posix doesn't do floating point math,   so i have to use intagers
[09:57] <combinio> i have fglrx 8.34 and downloaded from ati site version 8.4
[09:57] <combinio> winbond: it is ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run
[09:57] <mauri> ubotu hi my webcam is not in the list, what can I do
[09:57] <stdin> intelikey: round it "(K * 2) - 460 = F"
[09:58] <winbond> combinio, how did u install 8.3?
[09:58] <llutz> intelikey: (TK  9/5)  4560
[09:58] <combinio> winbond: do u think it might doesn't work ?
[09:58] <combinio> winbond: from how-to
[09:58] <llutz> 456 sry
[09:58] <winbond> combinio, did u compile?
[09:58] <intelikey> stdin  1.8 * X   not close to  2 * X
[09:58] <llutz> i'm messing up all now, again:
[09:58] <llutz> intelikey: (TK  9/5)  460
[09:59] <combinio> winbond: think yes
[09:59] <stdin> intelikey: yeah, but that's the closest you'll get with $(())
[09:59] <intelikey> and what is A*  ?
[09:59] <combinio> i've been putting some commands into the console
[09:59] <winbond> combinio, there should be a uninstall command,
[09:59] <titanix88> intellykey:use bc.
[09:59] <intelikey> stdin no it's not.
[09:59] <winbond> combinio, like when u installed it, same command except uninstall
[10:00] <kkathman> !nvidia
[10:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:00] <stdin> mauri: try opening a konsole window and type "sudo modprobe gspca" see if that works
[10:00] <intelikey> titanix88 bc might not be installed.
[10:00] <combinio> winbond: ok, try that
[10:00] <intelikey> titanix88 if i was going to count on external apps i'd use  units  anyway
[10:00] <intelikey> too late.
[10:01] <kkathman> why do you get "ubuntu" directions for installing nvidia in a kubuntu channel?
[10:01] <intelikey> kkathman cause it's all one "ubotu"
[10:01] <winbond> combinio, but u need to have all the compiled stuff , if u deleted it wont work
[10:01] <kkathman> ahh well ok but doesnt help us :(
[10:01] <intelikey> kkathman cause it's also all one "wiki"
[10:01] <stdin> kkathman: because the link has kubuntu instructions too, if you read it
[10:02] <kkathman> no that one doesnt I dont believe
[10:02] <combinio> winbond: look - i've installed it from here :: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI :: under KUBUNTU!
[10:02] <kkathman> its all off the gnome menus
[10:02] <mauri> ubotu lsmod find gspca module but /dev/video is not created
[10:02] <combinio> i mean under EDGY version (but i have kub-7.04)
[10:02] <stdin> kkathman: if you read it you'll see the "Note: If you're running Kubuntu ....." bit
[10:03] <kkathman> problem is my kubuntu isnt using the proprietary drive I actually installed using ubuntu
[10:04] <xp_killer> do it have any good download manager for linux?
[10:04] <winbond> combinio, did u use this?
[10:04] <winbond> combinio, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager
[10:04] <combinio> winbond: no that
[10:04] <mauri> ubotu are you still there
[10:05] <combinio> this little down
[10:05] <winbond> xp_killer, which browser?
[10:05] <xp_killer> kkathman: did u install kubun befor u put in your ati?
[10:05] <combinio> i've installed it for EDGY version
[10:05] <combinio> winbond: 'sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control'
[10:05] <combinio> i na koncu 'sudo depmod -a'
[10:05] <kkathman> xp_killer:  I dont run ATI
[10:06] <kkathman> note above
[10:06] <combinio> winbond: i mean at the end i wrote 'sudo depmod -a'
[10:06] <combinio> was that good move ?
[10:06] <kkathman> what I am experiencing is that in kubuntu - when I look at the xorg.conf - it clearly shows "nvidia" but when I go to the system settings, monitor it shows "nv"
[10:06] <winbond> if u havent reconfigured the xorg.conf, ure are probably not using this driver
[10:06] <zipper> In X, the resolution is fine (1280x1024) but when i have to log in using KDM, it's not. It seems like it's zoomed in, and when i move my curser to the sides the image "scrolls". Think it's called "Virtual something" in xorg.conf? Anyway, anyone know how to fix this?
[10:07] <xp_killer> kkathman: did u install kubun befor u put in your nvidea?
[10:08] <kkathman> of course
[10:08] <winbond> combinio, if u havent reconfigured the xorg.conf, ure are probably not using this driver
[10:08] <LiquidValium> heh,  I didnt realize that the ubuntu irc server was also freenode
[10:08] <kkathman> oh wait  no - it was in the box when I installed kubuntu/ubuntu
[10:08] <LiquidValium> I didnt understand how i had another connection to the server,  freaked me out until I realized
[10:08] <combinio> i changed xorg - Composite "Disable" - that's all
[10:08] <kkathman> its works perfectly on my dual boot (same box) under openSUSE
[10:09] <intelikey> what is 44F in kelvin   ?
[10:09] <kkathman> so its something strange in kubuntu ( I think it even works in ubuntu!)
[10:09] <intelikey> lets check my script...
[10:09] <intelikey> i came up with 334K    is that correct ?
[10:09] <mauri>  Hi all, i'm not be able to use my webcam..someone can help me?
[10:10] <xp_killer> kkathman: thats the reson why u got th wrong one it happen to me it choose the wrong driver when i put in my ati after installment
[10:10] <combinio> winbond: can i just install 'ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run' with sh command ?
[10:10] <kkathman> xp_killer:  but it was correct when I installed under ubuntu
[10:10] <intelikey> LiquidValium heh  this is freenode.net   not ubuntu.*
[10:10] <winbond> combinio, i dont know, probably not, u might need to compile , depends on ur kernel version
[10:10] <llutz> intelikey: 280
[10:10] <kkathman> xp_killer:  yer saying you have to put the video card in AFTER you install ??
[10:11] <kkathman> thats ludicrous
[10:11] <combinio> winbond: i have 2.6.20-16-generic version of Kernel
[10:11] <deviance> How can I force 2 programs to open on startup
[10:11] <hangthedj_server> ~/.kde/Autostart
[10:11] <deviance> I run that in Konsole?
[10:12] <deviance> Do I put the program name after it?
[10:12] <hangthedj_server> link the files you want to start to that directory
[10:12] <winbond> combinio, try to find some directions on atis website
[10:12] <xp_killer> kkathman: i put in my ati befor i install kubuntu.but u can normaly change it if u know which is best for your nvidea
[10:12] <hangthedj_server> !ln
[10:12] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:12] <combinio> winbond: ok, try that
[10:13] <rothchild> morning, does anyone have a usb hard drive working properly and being automounted in either feisty or gutsy?
[10:13] <winbond> combinio, what does it say by the "driver"  in the device section of the video card, in the xorg.conf file?
[10:14] <combinio> winbond: it says Driver "fglrx"
[10:14] <xp_killer> !kget
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kget - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <winbond> combinio, well, i guess it installed ok , what problems do u have with that driver?
[10:16] <winbond> xp_killer, downthemall for firefox is the best
[10:16] <combinio> winbond: i just want to upgrade them to v4.8
[10:16] <combinio> winbond: that's all
[10:17] <combinio> ** sry - i men v4.8
[10:17] <mauri>  Hi all, i'm not be able to use my webcam..someone can help me?
[10:17] <combinio> ** v8.4 !!
[10:17] <winbond> combinio, there is no easy way to do it, unless the new driver is in the repos already
[10:17] <combinio> but if in repos there is only v8.34 - so just have a look such old version :|
[10:18] <xp_killer> kkathman: winbond is it only for fox?
[10:18] <combinio> when they're gonna add some newer version of these ATI drivers ?
[10:19] <mauri>  Hi all, i'm not be able to use my webcam..someone can help me?
[10:19] <winbond> xp_killer, i think so, i used kget long time ago, but the downthemall was much better, even back then ,
[10:20] <combinio> !help
[10:20] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:20] <xp_killer> winbond: and wget?
[10:20] <winbond> xp_killer, never used that
[10:21] <hangthedj_server> i love wget
[10:23] <hangthedj_server> an hour of fun can be had with wget --server-response
[10:23] <xp_killer> stdin: when i download a file it slows down the pc,(its like it have gas)what can i do to prevent this?just seen this it look like it eaten up ram
[10:24] <mauri>  Hi all, i'm not be able to use my webcam..someone can help me?
[10:24] <winbond> combinio, i just checked repos, the 8.4 is not there,  so u have to manually install it
[10:24] <combinio> winbond: crap! :/ i'm affraid to do install it manually
[10:24] <combinio> i think it can't not work
[10:24] <combinio> but check it out
[10:25] <hangthedj_server> mauri: sorry, i don't know anything about webcams, try searching on hangthedj/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <combinio> winbond: so first remove all fglrx drivers with 'remove' command and restore xorg.xonf file ?
[10:25] <combinio> winbond: and then install it ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run ?
[10:27] <winbond> combinio, first run the sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the open source ati drive, then uninstall fglrx, then install the new driver, its a little more complicated than that
[10:27] <hangthedj_server> !webcam | mauri
[10:27] <ubotu> mauri: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:27] <mauri> ubotu: my cam is not in the list..what can i do
[10:28] <hangthedj_server> mauri: not sure, find the closest one to your model
[10:28] <winbond> xp_killer, how does it slow down ur pc?
[10:29] <hangthedj_server> mauri: are you using kopete, cause kopete is pretty good with webcams.
[10:29] <mauri> ubotu: ID 0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp
[10:29] <mauri> hangthedj_server: hi, the problem is that /dev(video device is not created
[10:30] <hangthedj_server> mauri: try modprobe video
[10:30] <hangthedj_server> or mknod /dev/video
[10:30] <hangthedj_server> ?
[10:31] <hangthedj_server> i really don't know much about webcams.  i have one thats not hooked up, but i know it works with kopete
[10:31] <xp_killer> winbond: right now im downloadin a anime.when i move the mouse it got like a freez for 0.65second it doesnt run smooth same for video and other stuff
[10:31] <mauri> hangthedj_server: video and gspca module are already loaded
[10:32] <winbond> xp_killer, how much ram do u have?
[10:32] <combinio> winbond: sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg - doesn't work
[10:33] <combinio> there some conflict between -e (--control) and -r (--remove)
[10:33] <combinio> in dpkg
[10:33] <combinio> winbond: u know - i guess i'm not gonna do that
[10:33] <xp_killer> winbond: 1gig but in 2,512 each.i want to know if it realy using the 2 because i just buy one 4days ago
[10:33] <combinio> it's just little too complicated
[10:33] <combinio> winbond: but thanks for info anyway :)
[10:34] <winbond> combinio, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:34] <combinio> winbond: it works :)
[10:34] <combinio> and by default there is VESA driver selected
[10:34] <combinio> which should i select ?
[10:34] <winbond> combinio, its not that difficoult, but ure got to be prepared that u can mess it up and gonna have to reinstall the system
[10:35] <combinio> I'M READY ;P
[10:35] <zipper> In X, the resolution is fine (1280x1024) but when i have to log in using KDM, it's not. It seems like it's zoomed in, and when i move my curser to the sides the image "scrolls". Think it's called "Virtual something" in xorg.conf? Anyway, anyone know how to fix this?
[10:36] <winbond> xp_killer, if u run the top command in the terminal , u can see how much ram u have and how much its using
[10:36] <mauri> hangthedj_server: video and gspca module are already loaded
[10:37] <combinio> winbond: umm... which driver is open ? there is many of drivers :/
[10:37] <winbond> combinio, ati
[10:37] <combinio> winbond: k
[10:37] <combinio> winbond: next step: Identifier for your video card - so call it as 'Generic Video Card' ?
[10:37] <combinio> by default ?
[10:38] <rothchild> hi can anyone confirm that they have a usb hard drive (proper spinning one not a thumb drive) working under either feisty or gutsy (ie being automounted on connection)? I am gathering data for a bug report because it seems to be seriously broken in both versions
[10:38] <winbond> combinio, yup , doesnt matter what u call it
[10:38] <combinio> ok
[10:38] <xp_killer> winbond: wat top command?  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg this one?
[10:38] <winbond> xp_killer, top
[10:39] <combinio> winbond: if i make a back-up of xorg.conf file it is gonna work when i restore it ? ;>
[10:39] <hangthedj_server> mauri: i'm sorry i don't really know anything about webcams.  ubuntuforums.org is a good place to start searching.  and if you find nothing then post a new thread.
[10:39] <combinio> u know - some kind of secure :)
[10:40] <winbond> combinio, it makes a backup automatically
[10:40] <mauri> hangthedj_server: ok i will try even if it will be hard
[10:40] <combinio> thanks the Lord ;P so reinstall system won't be necessary :)
[10:41] <jussi01> can someone remind me where the setting for saving your start up programs is?
[10:41] <winbond> combinio, if u restore it its not gonna work if the selected driver is fglrs and u have uninstalled the fglrx
[10:41] <xp_killer> winbond: ok witch line is for the ddr?
[10:41] <combinio> winbond: oupssss.... [;
[10:41] <combinio> ok... i don't care :)
[10:41] <jussi01> ie. how do I save a seesion?
[10:41] <combinio> i just want to make i working :)
[10:42] <winbond> xp_killer, first one after mem:
[10:42] <winbond> xp_killer, to the right
[10:43] <combinio> winbond: Video card's bus identifier - PCI:1:0:0 so i guess that i should leave it by default ? ;>
[10:43] <winbond> combinio, yeah,
[10:44] <combinio> winbond: "Amount of memory (kB) to be used by the video card" - there is an empty space... what value should be written there ? ;>
[10:44] <winbond> combinio, leave empty
[10:45] <xp_killer> 1022000 in used is that good?
[10:45] <combinio> winbond: ok... then it asks me 'bout use framebuffer ? YES or NO ... by default it is selected NO
[10:45] <winbond> combinio, no
[10:45] <combinio> winbond: Autodetect keyboard layout? [;
[10:45] <combinio> YES / NO
[10:45] <winbond> xp_killer, yeah, means u have 1 gig of ram
[10:46] <winbond> combinio, no, or yes, i dont think it matter
[10:47] <combinio> winbond: ok... by default there is NO so i choose NO ;P
[10:47] <combinio> winbond: going for have a breakfast... brb
[10:48] <blekos> i get a message that another process is using the package manager but cannot find it
[10:48] <xp_killer> winbond: the download finish but the pc still stickin
[10:49] <blekos> I know there is a command that fixes the "adept-manager"  anyone pls?
[10:49] <Jucato> !adeptfix | blekos
[10:49] <ubotu> blekos: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[10:49] <intelikey> ok i finally got it.    this is the formula for  F to K                    $(( $(( 5 * F / 9)) + 256 )) = K
[10:49] <xp_killer> O_O
[10:50] <blekos> that did the trick thnx
[10:50] <intelikey> i couldn't find it written anywhere       so i wrote it...
[10:50] <chemicalvamp> so i got my kubuntu install working off of a usb key, is there an easy way to set up other computers to boot off of it?
[10:50] <winbond> xp_killer, look at top and see whats using the most cpu or ram when u get the slowdowns
[10:51] <winbond> xp_killer, or u can run the system guard, and do same thing there
[10:51] <combinio> winbond: XKB rule set to use - there is written 'xorg'
[10:51] <llutz> intelikey: calculate -459 F  to K, should be 0
[10:52] <intelikey> llutz calculate 32F to K should be 273   and  212F should be 373K
[10:53] <winbond> combinio, what?\
[10:53] <combinio> ok, chose xorg
[10:53] <combinio> idunno - it asked me for that :] 
[10:53] <combinio> by default i chose 'xorg'
[10:53] <combinio> whtaver it was ;P
[10:53] <xp_killer> winbond: all i see is klash about 14 then xorg,konversation etc....
[10:53] <intelikey> llutz and by that formula  -459 comes out 1    that's because there is no floating point
[10:54] <combinio> winbond: it is still about keyboard
[10:54] <intelikey> llutz so yes it works.
[10:54] <llutz> intelikey: yes, should be -459,67 (float)
[10:54] <llutz> intelikey: fine, but hopefully we will see the day when nobody uses Fahrenheit anymore :)
[10:55] <edulix> hi! I entered in kcontrol and created a new theme out of my current one.. and guess what? I clicked in "apply" and now my toolbars don't show any icon!
[10:55] <edulix> it's really weird and I don't know how to solve it
[10:55] <intelikey> llutz if you don't like it.  don't use it.      but don't ask me to "not use it"
[10:55] <edulix> (without ditching my .kde)
[10:55] <combinio> winbond: how can i examine whoch port is used by mouse ?
[10:55] <maverick_> !fahrenheit
[10:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fahrenheit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:56] <winbond> combinio, u have usb mouse?
[10:56] <combinio> winbond: no ps2
[10:56] <winbond> combinio, just use ps2 explorer
[10:56] <llutz> intelikey: fahrenheit wasn't designed for scientific use
[10:57] <intelikey> llutz Fahrenheit is mean climit based.  not water based.   0F is roughly as cold as it gets for a great number of locations   and 100F is roughly as hot as it gets...
[10:57] <winbond> combinio, what does it say?
[10:57] <intelikey> llutz it's the "human" theme of temprature scales
[10:57] <llutz> intelikey: i know where it comes from.
[10:58] <intelikey> and if i might add,   a good one.
[10:58] <combinio> winbond: it says: /dev/input/mice OR /dev/psaux OR /dev/ttyS0 OR /dev/tts0 OR /dev/gpmdata
[10:59] <edulix> see http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1261/siniconosgh6.png
[10:59] <edulix> no icons :(
[10:59] <winbond> combinio, mice
[11:00] <combinio> winbond: ok
[11:00] <llutz> intelikey: i work with these scales every day (meteorological service) and i prefer handy units like Celsius/Kelvin. but that's _my_ preference
[11:00] <combinio> winbond: mouse control :: ImPS/2 or ExplorerPS/2
[11:01] <winbond> combinio, explorer
[11:01] <combinio> winbond: kk
[11:01] <combinio> winbond: Emulate 3 button mouse? :: YES / no
[11:02] <combinio> winbond: i have 3-button mouse :)
[11:02] <chemicalvamp> In grub if a person wanted to set up an external CD drive would they use the same setup as "other operating systems"?
[11:02] <winbond> combinio, i dont remember what it does, just hit no
[11:02] <RichiH> is there any edubuntu-gui for KDE?
[11:02] <stdin> there is in gutsy
[11:03] <artur_> Ubuntu forever!
[11:03] <artur_> -)
[11:03] <combinio> winbond: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36763/ :: there is something written
[11:03] <combinio> winbond: by default there is selected YES so maybe i should hit yes
[11:05] <winbond> combinio, it wont make any difference, hit no
[11:05] <combinio> winbond: as u say
[11:06] <combinio> winbond: now there is most imprtant step about modules
[11:06] <combinio> glx, dri, dbe, etc...
[11:06] <combinio> which modules should i mark ?
[11:07] <combinio> winbond: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36767/
[11:07] <combinio> <- there it is
[11:08] <chemicalvamp> anybody know what /dev/??? a USB cdrom would be?
[11:09] <chemicalvamp> or how i could find it
[11:09] <winbond> combinio, "i2c"	"bitmap"	"ddc" "dri" "extmod" "freetype" "glx" "int10" "vbe"
[11:09] <combinio> can u just have a look there once again :: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36767/ :: cuz there is no i2c :/
[11:09] <combinio> winbond: i moded it a little
[11:10] <combinio> winbond: there are only those options :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36767/
[11:11] <combinio> winbond: sux - i screw it up... have to start from begging :[ cuz select not those modules :[
[11:11] <combinio> CRAP! :[
[11:11] <winbond> combinio, so only select the ones which i listed that are there
[11:11] <combinio> ok
[11:11] <chemicalvamp> anybody know what /dev/??? a USB cdrom would be? or where to look?
[11:12] <chemicalvamp> i took a long break from linux so now im all rusty
[11:12] <combinio> i though that i'm selecting modules with ENTER and i hit enter button and go further :/ and no every modules were selected so i'm strting from begginig :/
[11:12] <combinio> how many steps there is ? !
[11:13] <combinio> winbond: oupsss... can't open reconfigure server now ? :[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[
[11:13] <winbond> chemicalvamp, mount
[11:13] <combinio> i just finish it with CTRL+Q buttons
[11:13] <combinio> winbond: cuz i screw it up as i said
[11:13] <combinio> winbond: is this not gonna work now ? :(
[11:14] <winbond> combinio, restart computer
[11:14] <combinio> winbond: ok
[11:14] <winbond> combinio, or maybe reload xserver
[11:14] <combinio> winbond: ok
[11:15] <chemicalvamp> winbond it shows a list of mounted media, the device i need isnt mounted
[11:15] <winbond> chemicalvamp, lsusb
[11:18] <chemicalvamp>  winbond the device i want is "Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046e:3005" i tried sda3 but it didnt work
[11:18] <llutz> chemicalvamp: cd-rom should be /dev/scdX
[11:19] <chemicalvamp> llutz says it doesnt exist
[11:19] <hangthedj_server> chemicalvamp: usually usb storage devices are sdb?
[11:19] <winbond> chemicalvamp, sdx is for serial ata, , i dont know how the usb bus is marked
[11:19] <hangthedj_server> ls /dev/sdb* -lh
[11:20] <llutz> hangthedj_server: sdXY are (Hard, flash...)disks not cd-roms
[11:20] <chemicalvamp> none of these are working, i originaly tried /dev/sdb1 because my USB key is at /dev/sda1
[11:20] <SilentDis> hello
[11:21] <hangthedj_server> llutz: i should pay more attention to the conversation i suppose :p
[11:21] <chemicalvamp> is there a way to mount everything attched? then i could just look at its properties
[11:21] <hangthedj_server> cd roms are usually scd? in feisty and gutsy right?
[11:22] <combinio> winbond: ok, i'm on step with selecting modules
[11:22] <combinio> winbond: can u write to me which modules should i select once again ? :)
[11:22] <llutz> hangthedj_server: if not hda[b,c,d,]  yes
[11:22] <winbond> combinio, "i2c"	"bitmap"	"ddc" "dri" "extmod" "freetype" "glx" "int10" "vbe"
[11:22] <SilentDis> well, my adventured in EVDO are over.  i got it working (usbserial connection).  Now, i have a new problem.  I disabled my eth0 interface (it's got a router connection via dialup), and konq/kontact refuse to go over the ppp0 connection provided by kppp, what setting am i missing?
[11:23] <combinio> winbond: all of them are selected by default except i2c - cuz it is not on that list
[11:23] <combinio> and DBE - do not select ?
[11:23] <llutz> SilentDis: check the route (route -n), it should point to ppp0 as default if connected
[11:23] <combinio> even if i would like to have a Compiz on AIGLX later?
[11:23] <winbond> combinio, just keep going, most of the things u need are selected by default
[11:23] <combinio> winbond: ok
[11:24] <combinio> winbond: write default Files section to configuration file ?
[11:24] <combinio> YES / no
[11:24] <SilentDis> llutz: ppp0 is the only listed interface, destination has an IP in it.
[11:24] <winbond> combinio, yes
[11:25] <combinio> ok.. now monitor... Attepmt monitor autodetection? YES / no
[11:25] <chemicalvamp> i put a cd into my internal cd drive and it mounts, but if i put it into my external nothing happens
[11:26] <GIn> hi
[11:26] <winbond> hi
[11:26] <GIn> any one knows what the taskbar is called on this screenshot? http://wolfnix.net/tmp/k4/k4.2.jpg
[11:26] <SilentDis> llutz: firefox works without a hitch, as does Konversation, if that's any help.
[11:27] <hangthedj_server> GIn: there are no icons in it.
[11:27] <GIn> hangthedj_server, I mean the panel?
[11:27] <hangthedj_server> GIn: its hard to tell because there are no icons in it.
[11:28] <GIn> hangthedj_server, http://wolfnix.net/tmp/k4/img/screenshot.png
[11:28] <GIn> wrong url
[11:28] <winbond> this is kde4
[11:28] <Jucato> GIn: that's a mockup for KDE 4
[11:29] <combinio> winbond: another step: Method for selecting the monitor charateristics: Simple, Medium, ADVANCED ?
[11:29] <Jucato> hm.. actually no. it's just KDE 3
[11:29] <Jucato> GIn: that panel is just the regular KDE panel (Kicker), although I'm not sure how the person made that background image
[11:30] <combinio> winbond: hope that not many steps to end :////////
[11:30] <winbond> combinio, just go simple
[11:30] <combinio> ok
[11:30] <combinio> winbond: desired default color depth in bits? 16/24 or less ?
[11:31] <combinio> guess that 24 ? ;>
[11:31] <SilentDis> just enabled a 'net connection ppp0 (via kppp), disabled eth0.  Konq/Kontact refuse to work (Konversation, Firefox, ping, etc work fine) what setting am i missing?
[11:31] <winbond> combinio, yeah
[11:31] <combinio> winbond: is this over ? :)))))))
[11:31] <combinio> no more questions ? :D
[11:32] <winbond> combinio, i guess so
[11:32] <combinio> overwrote... so what now ? remove fglrx ? :D:D
[11:32] <combinio> winbond: at last! such many steps... but hope it was worth of it :D
[11:32] <GIn> Jucato, lol, I just made it looks like the one in the screenshot by setting the panel to transparent
[11:33] <Jucato> GIn: yeah. you can just probably fake the background
[11:34] <GIn> I can't wait for KDE4 any more
[11:34] <GIn> it looks very promising :)
[11:34] <winbond> combinio, all u did was change the driver
[11:35] <winbond> combinio, now u need to figure out how to uninstall it,and then how to install the new one
[11:35] <combinio> winbond: so now i is open :)
[11:35] <combinio> ok - i'll find some how-to :)
[11:35] <combinio> thanks a lot for help :)
[11:36] <chemicalvamp> ok thanks everyine for he help
[11:36] <winbond> combinio, yup
[11:36] <GIn> isn't there any deb package for the Domino theme?
[11:37] <GIn> how do u install the the X development files?
[11:37] <Jucato> GIn: xorg-dev
[11:37] <Jucato> I believe there are .deb packages for Domino in KDE-Look
[11:37] <boubbin_> !k3b
[11:38] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[11:38] <GIn> nope,
[11:39] <stdin> GIn: nope?
[11:39] <GIn> stdin, just found it :)
[11:39] <boubbin_> how to burn mp3 cd's with k3b, i need a package that makes it possible ?
[11:39] <stdin> !mp3
[11:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:40] <Jucato> boubbin_: burn mp3's into audio cd's? install libk3b2-mp3
[11:40] <SilentDis> just enabled a 'net connection ppp0 (via kppp), disabled eth0.  Konq/Kontact refuse to work (Konversation, Firefox, ping, etc work fine) what setting am i missing?
[11:40] <boubbin_> Jucato thanks
[11:45] <winbond> boubbin_, what do u mean mp3 cd?
[11:46] <winbond> u just want to burn some mp3s on the cd?
[11:47] <shiversc> please help me http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9290332
[11:48] <Jucato> shiversc: do not spam
[11:49] <stdin> was that lag or just you being slow? :p
[11:50] <Jucato> slow
[11:50] <fulat2k> hi folks, i'm trying to get my nokia phone to pair with my pc via bluetooth on kde 3.5.7.  however, i'm unable to do so.  any pointers?
[11:57] <parsnip> hi all
[11:57] <parsnip> quick question...why is kate called kate?
[11:57] <parsnip> !kate
[11:57] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[11:58] <emilsedgh> Kde's Advanced Text Editor
[11:59] <parsnip> emilsedgh: cheers man, makes sense
[11:59] <emilsedgh> np parsnip
[11:59] <parsnip> emilsedgh: thats all i came in for really, was really curious (sad I know)
[11:59] <parsnip> emilsedgh: peace
[12:03] <RichiH> stdin: was that for me?
[12:03] <deviance> !code
[12:03] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida
[12:04] <RichiH> stdin: the kedubuntu, so to speak
[12:04] <stdin> RichiH: yeah
[12:04] <stdin> !info edubuntu-desktop-kde edgy
[12:04] <ubotu> Package edubuntu-desktop-kde does not exist in edgy
[12:05] <stdin> !info edubuntu-desktop-kde gutsy
[12:05] <stdin> (not edgy :P)
[12:05] <ubotu> edubuntu-desktop-kde: edubuntu desktop system with KDE desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 1.41 (gutsy), package size 14 kB, installed size 44 kB
[12:05] <RichiH> cool
[12:05] <RichiH> stdin: thanks
[12:05] <stdin> :)
[12:17] <johnnylittle> hey guys
[12:17] <emilsedgh> !hi | johnnylittle
[12:17] <ubotu> johnnylittle: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:18] <johnnylittle> i just tried to install kubuntu and it looks like 1's and 0's are having a gay pride parade on my lcd
[12:19] <johnnylittle> it says out of scan range
[12:19] <emilsedgh> johnnylittle: installed finished?
[12:19] <johnnylittle> and it's some crazy rainbow with lines and stuff all over the place
[12:20] <johnnylittle> no just started
[12:20] <johnnylittle> i have a quad core core2 and a 7600gs ge-force
[12:20] <emilsedgh> johnnylittle: press alt+ctrl+f1, then run sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:21] <stdin> put a sudo before dpkg-reconfigure
[12:22] <johnnylittle> k
[12:22] <johnnylittle> wow..
[12:22] <johnnylittle> ok yeah..
[12:22] <johnnylittle> now it looks like an old fashioned robber shirt
[12:23] <johnnylittle> also i have xp installed then vista and now i'm installing ubuntu on the 3rd partition
[12:23] <johnnylittle> if i can get it installed will lilo or grub let all of the os work?
[12:24] <emilsedgh> johnnylittle: they all will work, Grub will be installed
[12:24] <johnnylittle> i did it with suse and it was great
[12:24] <johnnylittle> yeah i'm getting weird lines though
[12:25] <johnnylittle> i dont get x or shell
[12:25] <johnnylittle> and 7600gs is supposed to be out of the box
[12:28] <johnnylittle> so what should i do now?
[12:29] <johnnylittle> i just started in safe grafix mode
[12:29] <tobias_> johnnylittle: you reconfigured your xorg ?
[12:29] <tobias_> what driver are you currently running
[12:30] <Karti> Hi all, just wondering if there were any new ways to read an Outlook pst file so I can port it to Kmail?
[12:30] <johnnylittle> it booted is safe grafix mode
[12:30] <tobias_> johnnylittle: thats not an answer to my question :)
[12:31] <johnnylittle> i haven't even  installed
[12:31] <johnnylittle> i have no idea
[12:31] <johnnylittle> i just started the install cd in safe mode
[12:31] <tobias_> oh okay my bad
[12:32] <tobias_> and does it work now? The install I mean
[12:32] <johnnylittle> i'm in X at the desktop
[12:32] <tobias_> without any rainbows and stuff?
[12:33] <johnnylittle> no parade
[12:33] <johnnylittle> lol
[12:33] <tobias_> nice
[12:33] <johnnylittle> looks nice
[12:33] <tobias_> yes indeed it does =)
[12:34] <tobias_> okay then- I am away, so cant answer any more questions but most of the ppl here know more about kubuntu than I do anyway
[12:34] <tobias_> so good luck
[12:34] <johnnylittle> now i have a quad booting pc
[12:34] <_Shade_> i have just installed kde4 on kubuntu gutsy. Where does it install kde4 files since i can't run it
[12:37] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: i think i found something to monitor bandwith, mrtg, but it's not a karamba script as i wanted. it will have to do for now.
[12:38] <johnnylittle> it's not showing my partitions
[12:38] <johnnylittle> so i cant install
[12:38] <johnnylittle> oh wait...
[12:38] <johnnylittle> dang just took a while
[12:40] <emilsedgh> _Shade_: in Beta1/Feisty there were in /usr/lib/kde4/bin :)
[12:41] <_Shade_> emilsedgh: so how do i add it to xsessions?
[12:41] <Jucato> _Shade_: the instructions for how to use KDE 4 beta packages are in the Kubuntu announcement page
[12:42] <Jucato> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[12:42] <johnnylittle> hey does the swap need to be behind or in front of the ext3?
[12:42] <johnnylittle> in the partition manager i have a 160 gig partitioned like this...
[12:42] <Jucato> doesn't matter as far as I know
[12:43] <ScorpKing> best to put swap last
[12:43] <Jucato> with at least 1GB RAM, swap is almost unused
[12:43] <_Shade_> Jucato: yeah but i can't apply these since they're feisty related
[12:43] <Jucato> ???
[12:43] <johnnylittle> sda1 60000 xp, sda5 60000 vista, sda7 4000 swap, sda6 30000 ext3
[12:43] <Jucato> _Shade_: Ensure feisty-backports is enabled or you are running gutsy.
[12:43] <johnnylittle> i have 2 gig ram and 4 gig swap
[12:44] <Jucato> wow 4 gb swap....
[12:44] <johnnylittle> and it's pink pink teal red
[12:44] <johnnylittle> do i not need swap
[12:44] <johnnylittle> ?
[12:44] <_Shade_> Jucato: i have gutsy but kde4 isn't listed in my xsessions
[12:44] <Jucato> johnnylittle: you would. but with 2gb of RAM, 4gb of swap is overkill imho
[12:45] <Jucato> _Shade_: did you follow the last instructions carefully? have you tried to run any KDE 4 app first?
[12:45] <johnnylittle> ok
[12:46] <_Shade_> no i haven't since i'm on kde3 now
[12:46] <emilsedgh> johnnylittle: I think 256MB Swap would be enough, what do u think Jucato?
[12:46] <_Shade_> Jucato: i can't run it. I have installed the packages though
[12:46] <Jucato> _Shade_: follow the instructions....
[12:47] <Jucato> emilsedgh: I'd be more comfortable with 1GB ram...
[12:47] <Jucato> er..
[12:47] <Jucato> swap
[12:47] <johnnylittle> so... 2 gig swap?
[12:47] <Jucato> hehe
[12:47] <Jucato> unless you're going to be doing very (memory) intensive work...
[12:47] <johnnylittle> umm
[12:48] <johnnylittle> i'll be using beryl
[12:48] <Jucato> _Shade_: if you read the instructions, you'll notice that you can run KDE 4 apps inside a KDE 3 session
[12:48] <Jucato> johnnylittle: that will largely depend on your video card's ram
[12:49] <Jucato> besides, it won't take up much RAM either
[12:50] <johnnylittle> 256 meg video
[12:50] <johnnylittle> 2.4 ghz quad core intel
[12:50] <johnnylittle> 2 gig ddr2 4600
[12:51] <Jucato> more than enough...
[12:51] <johnnylittle> ok so what about flags?
[12:51] <johnnylittle> and mount points
[12:51] <johnnylittle> ext logical or primary?
[12:52] <johnnylittle> i usually just do it but i have xp and vista the way i want it
[12:54] <sniper> hello
[12:54] <johnnylittle> jucato?
[12:54] <mauri> hi all
[12:54] <mauri> someone can help me
[12:56] <Jucato> johnnylittle: no idea. sorry
[12:56] <Jucato> !someone | mauri
[12:56] <ubotu> mauri: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:57] <mauri> Ubukubu: sorry explain i dont know english ver well
[12:58] <mauri> ubotu: /dev/video device is not created quen the webcam is plugged in
[12:58] <Jucato> !it | mauri
[12:58] <ubotu> mauri: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:58] <jonny> Hi guys.  Sorry if this is a stupid question but I'm new to KDE and I was wondering if it's possible to install the desktop effects with it?
[12:58] <jonny> Anybody know?
[12:58] <mauri> ubotu: sei il massimo della cordialita
[12:59] <Jucato> mauri: ubotu is a bot
[01:00] <stdin> jonny: you can install beryl/compiz/compiz-fusion if you want
[01:01] <jonny> Cheers stdin.  Was just wondering in the first place whether or not it was possible with KDE so now I know.  Thanks mate.  Off had do you know of any good wiki entries or anything for Kubuntu?  Just if you happen to know one.
[01:02] <mauri> ubotu: /dev/video device is not created when the webcam is plugged in
[01:02] <Jucato> mauri: you are talking to a bot.
[01:02] <mauri> Jucato: i understand now
[01:02] <stdin> jonny: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Beryl are good
[01:03] <Jucato> mauri: try asking in #kubuntu-it
[01:03] <jonny> Excellent.  Thanks for your help mate.
[01:03] <mauri> Jucato: here is not good
[01:05] <mauri> Jucato: can you help me?
[01:05] <Jucato> mauri: sorry, I don't know webcams
[01:06] <kylewilliams> whats the problem?
[01:06] <mauri> Jucato: i have a symple problem with the time shows in the desktop
[01:06] <mauri> Jucato: it has 2 hours more than pc time
[01:07] <mauri> i dont know how to change because if i change the clock in the desktop, also the machine clock change
[01:11] <arash> Hi, guys, I want to copy a whole DVD to my harddrive, is that possible with K3b?
[01:11] <dappermuis> yes
[01:11] <dappermuis> is it an encrypted dvd?
[01:11] <arash> dappermuis , I have no idea :-/
[01:11] <dappermuis> well put it to you this way...are yo going to copying it illegally?
[01:11] <arash> It's one normal that you buy at store that has a movie on it
[01:12] <dappermuis> arash, ok. you'll need libdvdcss then
[01:12] <arash> hmm, im not sure, it's from the library and my mom doesn't have time to watch it so :p ...
[01:12] <dappermuis> ya ok...im not really ocncerned if you're copying it illegally or not
[01:13] <dappermuis> im just trying to figure out if it has encrytion or not
[01:13] <dappermuis> anyway, install libdvdcss
[01:13] <arash> ok thx
[01:13] <dappermuis> that will handle the decryption, and then copy it in k3b and just check the option to "only create iso"
[01:13] <arash> ah, thanks :)
[01:14] <dappermuis> alternatively, you could copy it with k9copy or rip it with acidrip
[01:14] <arash> did you mean 'libdvdcss2' , 'libdvdcss' doens't exist in adept :p
[01:14] <combinio> if i install fglrx drivers with 'sh ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run' command - how can i remove them ??
[01:14] <combinio> :: i mean this program install it instead me
[01:15] <Jucato> !libdvdcss
[01:15] <dappermuis> arah, yes that one's fine
[01:15] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:15] <arash> thanks dappermuis and Jucato
[01:16] <dappermuis> np
[01:16] <nkalinic> how do I install a program from a tar.gz file?
[01:17] <arash> nkalinic , before installing, I think it's best to check if the program already exists in adept..., elseway I think you just can rightclick and click install package
[01:17] <mumificirani> oh
[01:17] <mumificirani> tnx :)
[01:18] <mumificirani> one problem
[01:18] <mumificirani> I dont see Install package on the pop up menu when I rightclick :\
[01:19] <dappermuis> mumificirani, do you have universe and multiverse repositories enabled?
[01:19] <arash> mumificirani , hmm ,first check if the webpage you download from has any instructions... (or do what dapper just said first)
[01:20] <mumificirani> yes
[01:20] <tluca1> Is there a way to get konqueror to use the gecko rendering engine?
[01:20] <dappermuis> other than that, installing from source is a relatively easy process - everyone should learn to do it
[01:21] <mumificirani> dapper then teach me xD
[01:21] <mumificirani> I knew it before now I lost it somehow
[01:22] <dappermuis> mumificirani, ok - well you first need to extract the tar.gz file
[01:22] <mumificirani> yeah I did it
[01:22] <tluca1> anybody?:- Is there a way to get konqueror to use the gecko rendering engine?
[01:22] <arash> !patience |tluca1
[01:22] <ubotu> tluca1: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:23] <tluca1> sorry
[01:23] <dappermuis> tluca1, i dont know - but what's wrong with khtml?
[01:25] <tluca1> dappermuis: it doesn't render all pages correctly and I wan't to be able to view them right without changing browser
[01:25] <mumificirani> ok now I extracted this
[01:25] <mumificirani> now what
[01:25] <dappermuis> now cd into the directory
[01:25] <mumificirani> ok
[01:26] <dappermuis> and run ./configure - that checks if your computer meets all the requirements required to compile the program
[01:27] <mumificirani> hm
[01:27] <mumificirani> i put ./configure and it says no such file
[01:28] <mumificirani> I'm trying to install VisualBoyAdvance that's the point
[01:28] <dappermuis> post the output of a "ls"
[01:28] <arash> what??? that exists even in 'install/remove' programs :O (right?)
[01:28] <mumificirani> it does?
[01:28] <mumificirani> hm ok
[01:28] <mumificirani> xD
[01:29] <dappermuis> hehe
[01:29] <mumificirani> what's the name of the package?
[01:29] <dappermuis> visualboyadvance
[01:29] <arash> I think
[01:29] <mumificirani> oh it works
[01:29] <mumificirani> xD
[01:31] <mumificirani> Now that I installed it where will I find it?
[01:32] <sophy> hi
[01:34] <Aranel> hi, can I ALT+TAB like switcher in full screen applications ?
[01:34] <dappermuis> mumificirani, it should be under KMenu -> Games
[01:35] <dappermuis> Aranel, i don't see why not
[01:35] <mumificirani> dapper but it isn't
[01:35] <mumificirani> should I ctrl-alt-bksp?
[01:36] <arash> mumificirani , meh, it just takes 15 sec to restart anyway so :)
[01:36] <mumificirani> yeah :)
[01:36] <hcbox> my gstreamer crash, one of a reseaon of that could be from the soundcard i dont have ?
[01:36] <dappermuis> haha
[01:36] <dappermuis> i'd never used ctrl+alt+bkspc before
[01:37] <arash> dappermuis , are you kiddding me?
[01:37] <arash> man, linux crashes all the time :p, so you have to do it...
[01:37] <dappermuis> arash, nope - i've never had to restart X
[01:37] <dappermuis> arash, thats not linux crashing, thats X crashing
[01:38] <dappermuis> and it usually only happens if you mess with beryl and video card drivers and stuff
[01:38] <mumificirani> X window system xD
[01:38] <arash> Yea, that's correct, but still... , dappermuis , yea  , usuall because that or because Lazarus :p
[01:38] <dappermuis> mumificirani, try running visualboyadvance from the command line and see what happens
[01:40] <mauri> anyone know how to kubuntu able to recognize a webcam?
[01:40] <dappermuis> mauri, it should be able to
[01:41] <mauri> dappermuis: when i connect it to usb port, the device /dev/video is not created
[01:42] <dappermuis> mauri, well then see what device is created
[01:43] <dappermuis> when you connect it do a "dmesg | tail|
[01:44] <mauri> it seems that no device is created
[01:44] <dappermuis> mauri, then your device is dead...whenever a device is plugged into usb a kernel event happens
[01:46] <sahin_h> mauri: Here's an article: http://www.linux.com/feature/118896
[01:46] <sahin_h> mauri: webcam under linux in general
[01:46] <sahin_h> mauri: Maybe it will be nady for you...
[01:47] <deviance> !dock
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <sahin_h> mauri: Sorry, so I mean... Maybe it will be handy for you...
[01:49] <dappermuis> nice article sahin_h
[01:49] <mauri> sahin_h: i installed gspca module but it doesn't work
[01:49] <sahin_h> mauri: I have no idea, i just show this article. I bookmarked two days ago.
[01:50] <sahin_h> mauri: I have no webcam at all, so I have no real experiences.
[01:51] <dappermuis> i once got a webcam to work
[01:51] <sophy> Why KNetworkManager doesn't connect my computer to the Net automatically at the boot (at least to the network) ?
[01:51] <sophy> (at least to the last network)
[01:51] <dappermuis> sophy, it might be that it needs a password which isn't available at boot
[01:52] <sophy> dappermuis: what doesn't it remember the passwords ? Can it be changed ?
[01:52] <sophy> dappermuis: why
[01:52] <danya> hello .. I'm having problems with aMSN .. when I launch it .. and click on the tray icon .. It doesnt work ..
[01:53] <dappermuis> sophy: the password used by knetworkmanager are usually stored by kwallet, kwallet isn't available at boot. So, you have to wait till kde starts and then allow knetworkmanager to open kwallet
[01:53] <dappermuis> so that it can get the password and connect
[01:53] <arash> why do k9Copy ask for filename for all the 50 segments in a DVD? can't you tell it to auto-name the .avi-files?
[01:54] <sophy> dappermuis: how to allow knetworkmanager to open kwallet, and how to store the wep key in kwallet ?
[01:54] <mauri> sahin_h: ok thans
[01:54] <sahin_h> mauri: np
[01:54] <dappermuis> arash: are you trying to rip the dvd to avi?
[01:55] <arash> dappermuis , yea, since I discovered that it can include subtitles with the .avi automatically :)
[01:55] <ubuntu> hello
[01:55] <dappermuis> arash: i've never really like ripping dvds with k9copy. i much prefer acidrip
[01:55] <arash> lemmetry :
[01:55] <oneword> Hi, Im helping a friend convert to kubuntu, how do you open konqueror as root?
[01:55] <dappermuis> sophy: when you connect to the network you should tell knetworkmanager to store the password
[01:55] <arash> gksu konquerer
[01:56] <ubuntu> open a shell and type s
[01:56] <arash> well konqueror*
[01:56] <dappermuis> this is ubuntu
[01:56] <oneword> Its not working for him, X is refusing to connect
[01:56] <ubuntu> su
[01:56] <dappermuis> i mean kubuntu, so use kdesu konqueror
[01:56] <Briareos1> I am trying to add a "Play DVD with MPlayer" to the dialog which pop-ups when i put a dvd into the drive. so I configured the option with the command "mplayer dvd://", but i get an error - something like "invalid address: ."
[01:56] <oneword> It's not working..
[01:57] <sophy> dappermuis: it doesn't ask me to save the password...
[01:57] <sophy> dappermuis: I have nowhere to set it ?
[01:57] <dappermuis> sophy, when you connect to the network does it ask you for a password?
[01:57] <Briareos1> any idea or hints on that?
[01:57] <dappermuis> Briareos, it might be that you need to specify the dvd path
[01:58] <dappermuis> so use dvd://dev/dvd or whatever
[01:58] <sophy> dappermuis: it asks me for an hex wep key, but not for a password
[01:58] <dappermuis> well yes, the wep key - is there no option to store the key?
[01:58] <llutz> dappermuis: that is defined by option "-dvd-device" to mplayer
[01:58] <sophy> dappermuis: no...
[01:58] <dazjorz> Hi
[01:59] <nkalinic> ok another problem
[01:59] <dappermuis> sophy: ok, well unfortunately I can't check for you because I don't have access to a wireless network at the moment
[01:59] <dazjorz> On Kubuntu.com, I have the choice between an x86 and an AMD64 CD to download
[01:59] <nkalinic> How do I install Java Runtime for Firefox/Konqueror?
[01:59] <dappermuis> llutz: ok, thanks
[01:59] <dazjorz> now, I have an Intel Core 2 Duo, which is 64-bits, but not AMD.
[01:59] <dazjorz> Will the AMD64 bits work OK / better than the x86-CD ?
[01:59] <llutz> dazjorz: amd64 would work but i doubt you need it :)
[02:00] <dappermuis> nkalinic: for firefox install sun-java6-plugin
[02:00] <dazjorz> llutz: Yeah you're right, I probably wouldn't need the extra speed
[02:00] <dazjorz> llutz: so you recommend I use the x86?
[02:00] <llutz> dazjorz: 64bit only advantages are handling of >4GB RAM, interupts etc. no speed improvement at normal systems
[02:00] <dazjorz> oh, by the way, I am going to play some games like UT2004, so any bit of extra speed is better
[02:00] <kaminix2> I just scanned this image: http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/3892/coversg2.jpg  Any ideas as to how I can "fix it" (I'm mostly thinking about the grid thingie)? Oh, and this is a cut and reencoded version to minimize the filesize, the original is 300x300 pixels larger and in png.
[02:00] <llutz> dazjorz: use 32bit and enjoy it
[02:01] <dazjorz> llutz: Okay, thanks :)
[02:02] <dazjorz> llutz: A friend of mine says 64-bits OSes are a lot faster on 64-bits processors, because they implement the newest feature sets like SSE2, SSE3 and Intel VT
[02:03] <mauri> anyone know how to kubuntu able to recognize a webcam?
[02:03] <dazjorz> llutz: a difference of 20-25%
[02:03] <llutz> dazjorz: those features are used with 32bit too
[02:03] <llutz> dazjorz: lol
[02:04] <llutz> dazjorz: sorry but i don't believe that improvement on an average pc-system for private-users
[02:04] <combinio> !ati
[02:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:05] <dazjorz> llutz: He says SSE3 isn't available at all on 32-bits processors
[02:05] <dazjorz> But oh well
[02:05] <dazjorz> I'll try 64 bits, if it gives any problems, I'll go back to 32
[02:06] <arash> mauri, tried asking ubotu?
[02:06] <nkalinic> Ok I installed the plugin but java still doenst work
[02:06] <dappermuis> nkalinic, thats a plugin for firefox
[02:07] <nkalinic> well yes
[02:07] <mauri> arash: how can i do it
[02:07] <nkalinic> I know I am on FFX but it still doesn't work
[02:07] <combinio> if have an error with gxlinfo | grep direct which is "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0" what it means ?
[02:07] <arash> !webcam | mauri
[02:07] <ubotu> mauri: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:07] <combinio> and Direct Rendering - NO
[02:08] <dappermuis> nkalinic: point you address bar to about:plugins and see what's there
[02:08] <nkalinic> ok
[02:08] <mauri> arash: the guide is not enoght
[02:08] <mauri> arash: the guide is not enogh
[02:08] <arash> mauri: how come ?
[02:09] <nkalinic> dapper everything is yes
[02:09] <mauri> arash: sorry i dont understand
[02:09] <dappermuis> nkalinic, then it should work
[02:09] <arash> mauri: have you read the guides through?
[02:09] <nkalinic> well it doesnt
[02:09] <nkalinic> =D
[02:09] <dappermuis> :D
[02:09] <dappermuis> ha! i don't know then
[02:10] <dappermuis> what page are you trying to access?
[02:10] <nkalinic> some kind of java based chat :\
[02:10] <sophy> I have a lot of movies Kaffeine can't read or just read the sound, what packages do I need to make it work ?
[02:10] <dappermuis> sophy: libdvdcss2
[02:11] <dappermuis> !libdvdcss
[02:11] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:11] <dappermuis> nkalinic, whats the url? then i can see if it works for me
[02:11] <llutz> sophy: dvd-media or media-files?
[02:11] <nkalinic> http://damir1977.coolfreepage.com/chat.html
[02:11] <chook> #kubuntu-fr
[02:12] <llutz> !multimedia
[02:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[02:12] <chook> plz how i can join the french room(kubuntu) forgot when i use mi client heheh
[02:12] <fdoving> chook: /join #kubuntu-fr
[02:13] <chook> thx fdoving ;)
[02:13] <sophy> dappermuis: I have libdvdcss2 already
[02:13] <chook>  /join #kubuntu-fr
[02:13] <dappermuis> nkalinic: works for me :/
[02:13] <dappermuis> sophy: see llutz post above
[02:13] <sophy> dappermuis: yes...
[02:14] <dappermuis> sohpy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[02:14] <llutz> sophy: libdvdcss2 is only imprortant for playing dvds, not avi/wmv/ogg-files
[02:14] <nkalinic> dapper
[02:14] <nkalinic> what are all the avaiable plugins for java?
[02:14] <nkalinic> or java web runtimes neverthless
[02:14] <danya> guys ... my screen light without any notice is not on :| .. I cant see clearly lol !!
[02:15] <dappermuis> nkalinic: there's j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin and sun-java-5 plugin
[02:15] <dappermuis> sorry, thats sun-java5-plugin
[02:16] <nkalinic> kk
[02:16] <chook> yeees working di french rooom :)
[02:16] <sophy> llutz: what to I need to play avi/wmv/ogg-files ?
[02:16] <nkalinic> I know that before resseting the KDE java worked on Konqueror
[02:17] <dappermuis> nkalinic: it might also do you good just to install the full java6 package
[02:17] <nkalinic> which is?
[02:17] <dappermuis> sun-java6-jre
[02:17] <nkalinic> ok
[02:19] <llutz> sophy: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[02:26] <djdarkman_> why is phpmyadmin messed up?
[02:26] <djdarkman_> #1045 - Access denied for user 'www-data'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[02:26] <djdarkman_> it never gave me this error
[02:27] <nkalinic> omg
[02:27] <nkalinic> I have java6 alreday installed :(
[02:28] <dappermuis> hmmm :/
[02:29] <dthacker> !restricted | sophy
[02:29] <ubotu> sophy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:29] <Viper550> Is KDE 4 Beta 2 any good?
[02:30] <stdin> depends what you call "good"
[02:30] <dappermuis> dunno, im just downloading gutsy tribe 5 now, and then im gonna install kde beta 2 and test it :D
[02:30] <dthacker> Viper550: define good,  and remember what Beta means.
[02:30] <mauri> anyone know how to kubuntu able to recognize a webcam?
[02:30] <sophy> dappermuis: I ran the big command in it... I'll test it right now... thanks :)
[02:30] <Viper550> I mean good, as in, how much better,different,etc is it compared to 3.5?
[02:30] <stdin> Viper550: massive difference, not usable yet tho
[02:31] <danya_> hello ..
[02:31] <judgen> whoohaa
[02:31] <danya_> I dont know whats wrong with my system guys
[02:31] <dthacker> Viper550: I don't install Beta's, except for testing U/K/Edubuntu releases, sorry
[02:31] <stdin> djdarkman_: btw, I'm working on your bug :p
[02:31] <Viper550> I have used a KDE beta before, KDE 3.5 RC1
[02:31] <judgen> danya_ ok
[02:32] <danya_> sometimes when I log in ... the desktop wont download
[02:32] <djdarkman_> stdin: how did this happen?
[02:32] <djdarkman_> on my laptop i have feisty too
[02:32] <dthacker> mauri: give us a specific model and error and we may be able to help you
[02:32] <danya_> and now im on KDE .. and its kinda slow .. and freezes and stuff ..
[02:32] <djdarkman_> is this a newer phpmyadmin?
[02:32] <djdarkman_> and the install script is wrong?
[02:32] <stdin> djdarkman_: I mean your "other" bug
[02:33] <judgen> danya what kind of freezes?
[02:33] <djdarkman_> the one with smplayer? stdin
[02:33] <mauri> dthacker: the model:http://www.emtec-international.com/en/produit.php?categorie=AVNOM&gamme=AV%20WEBCAMS&ss_gamme=W300
[02:33] <stdin> djdarkman_: yeah
[02:33] <danya_> judgen it's just too slow .. the ff window kind of freezes for a couple of seconds ..
[02:33] <mauri> dthacker: the error: device /dev/video is not created
[02:33] <stdin> djdarkman_: you have no idea the trouble it's giving me now :p
[02:33] <judgen> danya_: is your swap mounted?
[02:34] <djdarkman_> lol :D
[02:34] <djdarkman_> why stdin I compiled it without trouble
[02:34] <danya_> judgen : whats that ? .. I'm a new user
[02:34] <stdin> djdarkman_: compiling is the easy part, I've done that dozens of times (today), it's splitting the packages up
[02:35] <dthacker> mauri: do you get a prompt asking how to handle the cam when you plug it in?  (dthacker has no webcam stuff :()
[02:35] <judgen> danya_: its a partition for swapping files. Almost like the pagefile in windows.
[02:35] <dthacker> oops, afk for a sec.
[02:35] <djdarkman_> stdin: are you trying to split it up the way that only the installing differs and the source is the same?
[02:35] <danya_> judgen : I'm not sure ...
[02:36] <danya_> judgen : I've been on ubuntu for 2 months I think
[02:36] <stdin> djdarkman_: yep, one source, 3 packages
[02:36] <judgen> danya_: ok
[02:36] <djdarkman_> hmnm stdin that sounds elegant... but hard
[02:36] <judgen> danya_: is it only ff that freezes?
[02:37] <stdin> djdarkman_: it is, but it's a good learning experience :p
[02:37] <danya_> judgen : the desktop is fine now ..
[02:37] <mauri> dthacker: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4     AND    configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[02:37] <danya_> judgen :I had a problem last week with gnome .. the desktop wouldnt load .. someone told me to delete all gnome files and log in again ..
[02:38] <stdin> djdarkman_: I've learnt more about makefiles in the last few hours than I knew in total :)
[02:38] <patrick__> hello
[02:38] <djdarkman_> stdin: that sounds promissing, is it because of kde4?
[02:38] <danya_> judgen :I it worked fine ... bs now I'm having it again ... not always but sometimes :S .. I restart x .. and log in again and it works .. but yesterday aMSN starting to act weird ! .. and today I cant launch it ! .. when I click on the tray icon it wont work
[02:39] <stdin> djdarkman_: well no, I was just board and thought it would teach me more about packaging :p which it is doing
[02:39] <patrick__> I'm facing a connection problem with conqueror... but it's ok with firefox...
[02:39] <judgen> using compositin effects danya_ ?
[02:39] <mauri> dthacker: do you received the dmesg log
[02:39] <danya_> judgen : like compiz ?
[02:39] <judgen> danya_:  yeh
[02:40] <djdarkman_> stdin: is there a tool that can help packageeing I mean in a wizard for or something?
[02:40] <patrick__> it's ok when I connect with an ethernet connection... but not with a wifi connection :s
[02:40] <danya_> judgen : used to .. but when I deleted gnome files .. it's not woring anymore tho I still have the tray icon .. but I dont have compiz on kde
[02:40] <djdarkman_> brb
[02:41] <dthacker> back
[02:41] <judgen> danya_: ATI card?
[02:41] <stdin> djdarkman_: sortof, yeah. all cli tho, I've been reading https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html to learn how
[02:41] <ksivaji> is it possible to unzip zip file using Ark ?
[02:41] <Viper550> Has anyone tried KDE 4?
[02:41] <danya_> judgen : intel
[02:41] <stdin> djdarkman_: only started a couple days ago
[02:41] <judgen> danya_: oh.
[02:41] <ksivaji>  stdin hi
[02:42] <stdin> key ksivaji
[02:42] <mauri> dthacker: are you still there
[02:42] <danya_> judgen : oh good or bad :P .. I heard it's the best
[02:42] <dthacker> mauri: yep, researching
[02:42] <judgen> danya_: its great. i love my intel card
[02:42] <weber_> #kubuntu-de
[02:42] <patrick__> Same problem with kopete... but OK with gaim...
[02:42] <ksivaji> stdin  is it possible to unzip zip file using Ark ?
[02:43] <judgen> danya_: i thought it might have been related to the ATI fglrx driver. It made my previous computer have the same issues you describe.
[02:43] <danya_> judgen .. Im not really sure whats wrong with the system .. it works fine then not .. and like that .. I dont want one day to turn on my laptop and finding it not working at all :(
[02:43] <judgen> danya_: the HDD might be damaged. EXT is extremly sensitive to such stuff.
[02:43] <stdin> ksivaji: should be, as long as you have unzip installed
[02:43] <Viper550> there are KDE4 packagea in Gutsy, right?
[02:44] <judgen> danya_: does the drive make any sounds?
[02:44] <ksivaji> stdin error:  invalid compressed data to inflate
[02:44] <judgen> except under load ofcourse.
[02:44] <danya_> judgen .. not really .. just the normal sounds
[02:45] <judgen> danya_: im afraid i cannot help you. As i dont know whats causing it. Im sorry.
[02:45] <danya_> judgen .. u know .. someone was helping me with installing compiz again since it wasnt working after deleting the files ..
[02:45] <danya_> judgen he gave me a script he made .. but it didnt work ..
[02:45] <stdin> ksivaji: try in the command line, see if you get a better error message
[02:45] <judgen> danya_: do a complete deinstall of compiz
[02:45] <danya_> judgen : whts the command line for that plz ?
[02:46] <ksivaji> stdin see this http://pastebin.com/d3cce0204
[02:46] <judgen> danya_: i im fairly certain it has to do with compositing
[02:46] <judgen> danya_: gimme a sec.
[02:46] <immortal_punk> how can i use hibernate from console?
[02:46] <danya_> judgen : yea I thought so too cuz I kind of started having most of the problems after the script .. I couldnt find the guy in the chat rooms again !
[02:47] <judgen> danya_:  sudo apt-get remove compiz-core desktop-effects
[02:47] <dthacker> mauri: I see no entries for that webcam in the forums.  Is it a new model?
[02:47] <llutz> immortal_punk: sudo echo disk >/sys/power/state
[02:47] <stdin> ksivaji: I dee you needed sudo, did you open ark as root?
[02:47] <ksivaji> ya
[02:47] <immortal_punk> llutz: thank u
[02:47] <danya_> judgen : really thank u :D appreciated
[02:48] <judgen> danya_: you can also search in synaptic for any installed packages with the name compiz or xgl in them and select them for removal
[02:48] <mauri> dthacker: probably is a new model but is cheap
[02:48] <mauri> dthacker: do you know why /dev/video device is not created
[02:48] <danya_> judgen : do u use wine ?
[02:49] <dthacker> mauri: no
[02:49] <patrick__> is there an offline mode for konqueror ?
[02:49] <mauri> dthacker: is this the right place to ask for
[02:50] <dthacker> mauri: I would go to launchpad and make a support request.
[02:50] <dthacker> mauri: you can post your device info and dmesg files there
[02:50] <judgen> danya_:  rarely..
[02:50] <judgen> danya_: only to play call of duty
[02:50] <dthacker> mauri: and someone may be able to see the problem
[02:51] <danya_> judgen : aha .. just thought u might help me with it lol
[02:51] <judgen> danya_: sure
[02:51] <mauri> which is the address
[02:51] <judgen> what seems to be the problem?
[02:51] <mauri> dthacker: whici is the address
[02:52] <dthacker> mauri: https://answers.launchpad.net/
[02:52] <danya_> judgen ; simply its not working .. lol .. it only worked for an mp3 converter .. but for photoshop and a sony ericsson pc suite it wont :(
[02:52] <judgen> danya_: using the ubuntu version or the one at winehq repos?
[02:53] <mauri> dthacker: thanks
[02:53] <judgen> danya_: photoshop CS3 isnt supported with wine. just so you know. but the older versions work afaik
[02:53] <dthacker> mauri: np, sorry I wasn't more help
[02:53] <danya_> judgen : I dont know which repos .. they were for a 64-bit .. and it was an older version CS2 i blv
[02:54] <judgen> danya_: the sony ericsson stuff connects through an proprietary windows driver to your phone and wine dont simulate windows in the driver level. so it shouldnt work.
[02:55] <danya_> judgen : aha ... so I should install windows lol !
[02:55] <danya_> judgen : ok last favor .. since I got ur attention :P ... what should I do with aMSN ?
[02:56] <judgen> danya_: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=2631
[02:56] <judgen> look at this
[02:56] <judgen> install 7.0 instead of CS 7.0 works perfectly
[02:57] <judgen> danya_: remove it. Install kopete instead. It always works perfectly for me..
[02:58] <ksivaji> !bzip2recover
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bzip2recover - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <danya_> judgen .. I dont like kopete .. and I rarely work on kde
[02:58] <danya_> judgen : .. but the ratings of the link u gave me above is garbage lol
[02:58] <judgen> danya_:  what wm do you use then?
[02:59] <judgen> danya_: i know. Thats why i said CS2 dont work well
[02:59] <judgen> 7.0 works perfectly
[02:59] <danya_> judgen : whats a wm ?
[02:59] <judgen> danya_: Windowmagnager. Or to be exact. What desktop do you prefer then?
[03:00] <emilsedgh> danya_: WindowManager
[03:00] <danya_> judgen .. gnome
[03:00] <judgen> danya_: tried Gaim?
[03:00] <danya_> judgen .. nope
[03:01] <judgen> danya_: its atleast a hundred times better than aMsn in my experience. And kopete even above that
[03:01] <danya_> judgen : .. ah I'm on Gaim now .. since aMSN isnt working .. I dont know why I like aMSN .. probably because I got used to it
[03:02] <emule> hallo wie geht es euch????????????
[03:02] <judgen> !german
[03:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:03] <titanix88> huh?
[03:03] <emule> hallo
[03:03] <emule> wie geht es euch
[03:03] <judgen> English channel
[03:03] <titanix88> emule : r u nazi?
[03:03] <emule> pech
[03:04] <maverick_> !german | emule
[03:04] <ubotu> emule: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:04] <judgen> mature titanix88
[03:04] <stdin> titanix88: don't do that...
[03:04] <stdin> !guidelines | titanix88
[03:04] <ubotu> titanix88: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:04] <czer323> judgen, are you a republican?  TECHNICALLY, it's the same question.  It just depends on your personal social take.
[03:05] <danya_> judgen : thank u for ur help
[03:05] <judgen> i dont ask political non-opensource related questions in a linux channel
[03:05] <danya_> czer323 :maybe he/she takes it really personal ..
[03:05] <czer323> danya_, maybe they didn't.
[03:05] <maverick_> czer323: when you ask someone if he beongs to a faction/group which you know already that this provokes him/her ...well, i don't think it's the same
[03:06] <danya_> czer323 : maybe they do
[03:06] <czer323> danya_, the world may never know.  Unless you ask.
[03:06] <danya_> yea It's not really the same
[03:06] <danya_> doesnt have to be sensitive Q's like these :)
[03:06] <titanix88> actually our country suffered serious genocide far greater than nazi era . it just didn't catch international attention.:(
[03:07] <czer323> They're only sensitive because you make them sensitive.
[03:07] <judgen> czer323: its like asking someone that works at a daycare center, if he likes to work there since he is a pedofile
[03:07] <danya_> titanix88 : whats ur country ?
[03:07] <czer323> You simply add your own social context.
[03:07] <titanix88> bangladesh
[03:07] <llutz> !ot
[03:07] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:07] <judgen> llutz:  thanks
[03:08] <czer323> judgen, That's a legitimate question.  I wouldn't want my child in that daycare if there was a pedophile that worked there.  It might be socially awkward, but extremely legitmate.
[03:08] <czer323> Anyway, i'll buzz off.
[03:08] <judgen> czer323: if he/she was, would they tell the truth?
[03:08] <czer323> You may never know the real answer.  Unless you ask.
[03:09] <stdin> judgen, czer323: if you want to continue that discussion, take it elsewere
[03:09] <judgen> this is a linux channel, dont ask such things. as it does not matter.
[03:10] <judgen> dthacker: i want all packages in all repos on my 80mb 386 computer... can you solve that =)
[03:11] <stdin> titanix88: stop that or leave, your choice
[03:11] <titanix88> ok,just clearyfying.
[03:12] <titanix88> sorry if
[03:12] <titanix88> i hurt anyone.
[03:12] <dthacker> judgen: http://www.freenas.org/   Just ignore that little BSD guy in the corner
[03:13] <judgen> dthacker:  haha
[03:13] <titanix88> ot?
[03:13] <judgen> btw what heppened to the PPC verson of u/k/x buntu?
[03:13] <judgen> OT=off topic
[03:14] <stdin> !ppc | judgen
[03:14] <ubotu> judgen: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[03:14] <dthacker> as in not discussing kubuntu, which is this channel's purpose
[03:14] <titanix88> ohh...i was too:)
[03:14] <alan__> mornin guys
[03:14] <BurningRanger> hey fellas, just got a dell inspiron and popped Kubuntu onto it, and am having some networking issues. anyone willing to help?
[03:14] <alan__> small anoyance, but amarok (using xine) is skipping at certain moments, especially when dialogue boxes pop open, but not when I open actual programs. it's not the fastest computer, but an Athlon XP 2400+ w/ 1GB of ram
[03:14] <BurningRanger> i'm currently not even able to get wired networking going...
[03:15] <BurningRanger> alan__: my suggestion would be to use a different sound system
[03:15] <judgen> stdin: was the PPC LTS too?
[03:15] <BurningRanger> like ALSA/ESD/OSS and all that
[03:15] <combinio> can someone help with Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". ?? [;
[03:16] <stdin> judgen: I think so, should be
[03:16] <alan__> burning, "dmesg|grep eth"?
[03:16] <dthacker> BurningRanger: I only have about 10 mins but first things first.  You've got Nic connected and lights on, right?
[03:16] <alan__> and xine uses also, to sue anotehr amarok backend I'd ahve to compile it, they were taken out of the repositories :\
[03:16] <BurningRanger> NIC is connected, the light is on.
[03:17] <judgen> I have a tiny problem with my sound too actually. I cant get it to play sufficiently loud. Even with all mixer settings at max, i still only get enought sound to hear it kinda low. As im hearing impaired its vital that i can get it louder.
[03:17] <dthacker> BurningRanger: good.  is the wired nic eth0
[03:17] <dthacker> ?
[03:17] <BurningRanger> actually hang on, it's not actually connected right now because i put the wire over to my desktop to join here,
[03:17] <BurningRanger> and now that i look atit
[03:18] <BurningRanger> the light i saw might've been the power lights leaking from the inside.
[03:18] <BurningRanger> let me take another test please, brb
[03:19] <alan__> true story
[03:21] <dthacker> and that's why I never assume silly stuff, 'cos I know I make silly mistakes
[03:21] <titanix88> anyone knows why irc hosts all tech chats?
[03:21] <GIn> how do you install a theme in kde?
[03:21] <titanix88> why not another protocol?
[03:21] <llutz> titanix88: which?
[03:21] <alan__> Settings --> Appearance and Themes --> Theme manager?
[03:21] <judgen> titanix88: IRC is universal, works on most systems and it can be used to text-based systems
[03:22] <alan__> in kcontrol... which I think is still hidden by default for some stupid reason
[03:22] <titanix88> like yahoo,gtalk etc.
[03:22] <stdin> titanix88: IRC has been around forever, it's open, tested and true, that's why
[03:23] <llutz> titanix88: nobody wants to depend on yahoo/google/<company of your choice>, even if they use xmpp
[03:24] <titanix88> maybe irc 2 can evolve.
[03:24] <stdin> into what?
[03:24] <titanix88> like internet2.0
[03:24] <judgen> LOL internet 2.0 is just a laugh
[03:25] <titanix88> flashy new technology.
[03:25] <judgen> titanix88:  like what?
[03:25] <mosno> ETOOMANYINTERNETS
[03:25] <GIn> how do you install a theme in kde?
[03:25] <stdin> !changethemes | GIn
[03:25] <ubotu> GIn: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[03:26] <judgen> anyone got a solution to my sound problem. In BeOS it works fine to play louder (alot louder in fact maybe 10 times louder)
[03:27] <judgen> but in kubuntu it wont work to play louder. All is maxed out and i get a weak low sound at best.
[03:27] <titanix88> if irc was enough than why comanies keep making new protocol and the get success?that's my logic.
[03:28] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[03:28] <stdin> titanix88: most actually use a form of IRC, yahoo for instance does
[03:28] <judgen> titanix88: because they want to reach out to the non-technical audiences that likes images and sounds in their conversations. IRC is better for technical stuff just because they DONT allow that kinda crap
[03:29] <titanix88> hey blueskaj.
[03:29] <judgen> hare rama...
[03:29] <judgen> this song rocks.
[03:30] <BluesKaj> hi titanix88
[03:30] <titanix88> stdin,judgen:got it!
[03:32] <TECKBW> looking for help to upgrade from dapper to fiesty fawn, I have the disk ordered through shipit
[03:32] <emilsedgh> TECKBW: Disks are not for upgrading...
[03:33] <arash> emilsedgh, I think they are...
[03:33] <stdin> TECKBW: you'll have to go from dapper > edgy > feisty
[03:33] <BluesKaj> depends on one's definition of upgrade
[03:33] <arash> emilsedgh, not their main purpose, yes, but I remember they say when u upfrade that you can save bandwith in case you put in disk
[03:33] <TECKBW> well I had 6.06 and now i have 7.04 on cd the one from shipit
[03:34] <kaminix2> Can I use convert (the imagemagick program) to resize to X% of the image's original size?
[03:34] <titanix88> with live cd upgrade is not possible.
[03:34] <judgen> hmm seems it has nothing to do with the soundsystem that my volume sliders dont go higher,,,
[03:34] <stdin> arash: only with the alternate cd
[03:34] <emilsedgh> arash: they do not have packages, so they couldnt upgrade...
[03:34] <judgen> wonder what it could be?
[03:34] <TECKBW> internet update would not be suitable...don't have the speed, nor the bandwidth
[03:34] <arash> titanix88 , yes type 'imagemagick --help' I think
[03:34] <judgen> TECKBW: isnt the internet upgrade only about 800mb or so?
[03:34] <TECKBW> anyother way I can upgrade
[03:35] <arash> stdin, emilsedh, ah I see, never mind then :)
[03:35] <TECKBW> well, I live in the kalahari, so internet is slow and expensive
[03:35] <kaminix2> arash: Highlighted the wrong person? ^^
[03:35] <judgen> ooh a south african, nice
[03:36] <arash> kaminix2:  yes :p
[03:36] <GIn> what to install to get the command svn?
[03:36] <TECKBW> nope...not south african....I am from Botswana in actual fact
[03:36] <TECKBW> neighbors
[03:36] <ksivaji> my system hang only when i start a game called Xmoto is it possible to find the reason why it hang ?
[03:37] <stdin> GIn: subversion
[03:37] <titanix88> teckbw is a original ubuntu.
[03:37] <TECKBW> so basically there is no chance of keeping my settings and upgrading to 7.04...would have to do clean install...would that be the correct assumption
[03:37] <BluesKaj> TECKBW afraid so
[03:38] <arash> cant teckbw just order the two CD's required for the upgrade?
[03:38] <titanix88> why they only ship edubutu non-live?
[03:39] <TECKBW> I did not see any upgrade disks on the shipit web site
[03:39] <ksivaji> how to extract a file that comes with extension >pk3
[03:39] <TECKBW> np
[03:39] <llutz> kaminix2: convert -resize \%50 image.jpg out.jpg
[03:39] <ksivaji> how to unzip or untar a file that comes with extension >pk3
[03:39] <GIn> any one here use the theme Domino ?
[03:39] <titanix88> teckbw : use the edubuntu disk.
[03:39] <kaminix2> llutz: Didn't need the escape :)
[03:40] <TECKBW> I don't have edubuntu disk...will have to order and wait another 5 weeks
[03:40] <BurningRanger> so i've got wired internet working now. i'm not sure what the problem was.
[03:40] <titanix88> teckbw :u can dlod the iso s then.
[03:41] <TECKBW> I was wondering is there any way to add the repos from the cd to the apt config files
[03:41] <BurningRanger> dmesg|grep eth brings up a few things, one of which mentioned ipV6 not being supported by my router
[03:41] <BurningRanger> still no wireless.
[03:41] <TECKBW> nope, can't download is0s dont have the bandwidth.
[03:41] <BurningRanger> i go to knetwork manager and try to enable wireless, and it gives me a motionless dialog box.
[03:41] <BluesKaj> TECKBW, there is a way to preserve your settings ...let me do a search for a few mins ...i think it'will help
[03:41] <titanix88> teckbw:sudo apt-cdrom add
[03:42] <TECKBW> ok will try that
[03:42] <BurningRanger> is there anywhere i can go to get feedback as to why my wireless won't work? an error message at least?
[03:43] <titanix88> blueskaj:copy ur home folder.
[03:43] <judgen> titanix88: he does now have the badwith
[03:43] <GIn> any one here use the theme Domino ?
[03:43] <ksivaji> .pk3 is a compressed file is there any tool in ubuntu to uncompress it
[03:44] <TECKBW> will I be able to upgrade using the cd and adept then...that way saving bandwidth?/
[03:45] <BluesKaj> titanix ...not necesarily...depends on his "settings"
[03:45] <BurningRanger> anyone have any idea why that happens? Knetwork manager doesnt even return an error message when i try to activate wireless. it just gives a dialog box that does nothing, and then goes away after some time.
[03:45] <BurningRanger> do i need a new driver?
[03:49] <titanix88> anyone know any irc channel solely non technical?
[03:50] <stdin> titanix88: ##social
[03:51] <titanix88> stdin: really?!?
[03:51] <stdin> there are many, many, channels. lots aren't "technical"
[03:52] <stdin> titanix88: /list to see them all
[03:52] <BluesKaj> how does one format a USB stick to ext?
[03:52] <stdin> BluesKaj: with mke2fs  (or a GUI)
[03:52] <llutz> BluesKaj: change partitiontype to "linux" and mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdXY then
[03:54] <TECKBW> i have another problem, the whole reason I wanted to upgrade...my lan card which is pcmcia only works if plugged in after booting to the desktop
[03:54] <TECKBW> is there any way to sort out the problem
[03:56] <clintc_home> trying to get an maudio delta 66 to work with kubuntu 7.04, everthing looks right but there is no sound, hardware has been verified to be good with dual boot to windows
[03:57] <clintc_home> envy24control sees pcm output, interrupts are not shared
[03:57] <TECKBW> i have another problem, the whole reason I wanted to upgrade...my lan card which is pcmcia only works if plugged in after booting to the desktop
[03:57] <TECKBW> is there any way to sort out the problem
[03:58] <clintc_home> can anyone help with this sound problem or recommend a better channel?
[03:58] <ckd> have a problem with avant-navigator
[03:58] <ckd> http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/14694/
[03:58] <BurningRanger> hey guys i'm trying to follow this howto: http://www.linux-geek.org/index.php/2007/04/22/dell-1390-native-linux-driver-how-to-updated
[03:58] <BurningRanger> and i get an error message at the last step:
[03:59] <BurningRanger> tar: /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx.ko: Cannot chdir: No such file or directory
[03:59] <BurningRanger> did i do something wrong...?
[03:59] <TECKBW> my lan card is a cat5 type 10/100 nic
[03:59] <BurningRanger> what file is it telling me i'm misssing
[04:00] <stdin> BurningRanger: are you on feisty ?
[04:01] <BurningRanger> i am on 7.04. that's feisty right
[04:01] <stdin> BurningRanger: what's the command you put in?
[04:01] <BurningRanger> sorry i've been away from ubuntu for a while
[04:02] <BurningRanger> sudo tar xvjf ./bcm43xx-64bit.ko.tar.bz2 -C /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx.ko
[04:02] <stdin> BurningRanger: that's not what it says to put, take off the 'bcm43xx.ko' bit
[04:03] <BurningRanger> oh. good call
[04:03] <BurningRanger> right, then. by reboot it means a full reboot right, not just restarting X
[04:04] <stdin> yeah, but I'd do a "sudo depmod -a" first
[04:04] <hcbox> is there a problem with audigy 1 wiith IEEE 1394 in kubuntu cause it seems to be unrecognized
[04:04] <BurningRanger> no response, just another prompt. what's that supposed to do
[04:05] <stdin> BurningRanger: updates the module list, no error means no error :)
[04:05] <BurningRanger> sweet.
[04:05] <BurningRanger> let's fire this baby up then shall weee
[04:05] <BurningRanger> brb.
[04:07] <giovanni> sfor support in italian?
[04:08] <GIn> !mp3
[04:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:09] <GIn> amarok can't play mp3 files??
[04:09] <GIn> :S
[04:09] <stdin> sure it can
[04:09] <hcbox> my pci slot is mass-killing all my sound cards
[04:10] <GIn> stdin, it says it can't
[04:10] <jhutchins> GIn: have you installed xine-extracodecs?
[04:10] <stdin> GIn: did you read the link ubotu gave you?
[04:10] <hcbox> jhutchins: no :D
[04:10] <stdin> ie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3#head-eea6f341d3c611167270106a187907c2a23e08e2
[04:11] <gutts[away] > Ceci est un chan sur debian
[04:12] <stdin> !fr | gutts[away] 
[04:12] <ubotu> gutts[away] : Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:12] <stdin> !away > gutts[away] 
[04:12] <combo> !compiz
[04:12] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:13] <ksivaji> please someone tell me how to uncompress or unzip a .pk3 file in konsole
[04:13] <runlevelten> a pk3 is a zip file man.
[04:13] <runlevelten> use unzip.
[04:14] <BluesKaj> Gents , not able to format my USB stick here are some of the complaints ..dev/sde1 is mounted; will not make a filesystem here! then , umount: /dev/sde1 mount disagrees with the fstab
[04:15] <stdin> BluesKaj: see what "mount" says?
[04:15] <rothchild> hi can someone tell me how to turn off the american dictionary in open office so that it respects my english (UK) spellings? (and uses it by default - I've set the language and locale settings but it's still underlining things where it wants to put a z rather than an s)
[04:18] <runlevelten> there's a gb openoffice package isn't there?
[04:19] <runlevelten> Also, don't be surprised if it isn't perfect.
[04:19] <x5> think u can do dat in tools
[04:25] <judgen> anyone know where i can download the wasp icon set for kde?
[04:25] <judgen> kde-look.org link is dead
[04:27] <bizkut> http://www.kde-look.org/ is alive
[04:27] <rothchild> runlevelten yes and I have it installed but for some reason it want's to use both dictionaries!?
[04:27] <judgen> bizkut:  yes it is, but not the link on the site to the wasp theme.
[04:28] <bizkut> i don't see any dead link
[04:28] <rothchild> and if something is spelt with an s rather than a z it underlines it but gives me the option to tell it that it is a uk word, this is just daft
[04:29] <judgen> bizkut: search for wasp and try to download it.
[04:29] <richard_> hey is there a way to share files using cifs? I am having issues sharing a multi-user db file with smb...
[04:30] <judgen> Richard smb=cif
[04:30] <bizkut> judgen: the color scheme?
[04:31] <bizkut> judgen: or icon?
[04:31] <richard_> ok i'm having issues sharing a multi-user db file with smb can someone give me some help plz?
[04:31] <kkathman> !nvidia
[04:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:32] <GIn> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found.
[04:32] <GIn> what do I need?
[04:32] <richard_> GIn what are you trying to build?
[04:32] <stdin> Qt headers
[04:32] <GIn> opaquedark-0.1
[04:33] <GIn> it is a window decoration for kde
[04:33] <richard_> ok
[04:33] <GIn> what package should I i nstall?
[04:33] <x5> anyone had successfully installed a S3 UniChrome
[04:34] <judgen> bizkut: icon
[04:34] <stdin> GIn: I'd say you need libqt3-mt-dev
[04:34] <richard_> poison-- worked for me ootb
[04:34] <judgen> btw is there any emerald decorator that looks limilar to BeOS?
[04:35] <bizkut> judgen: http://www.kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=9763&id=2 - this link dead. Not kde-look.org
[04:36] <judgen> bizkut: thats what i said
[04:36] <judgen> i was looking for a mirror
[04:36] <GIn> compile error :S
[04:36] <stdin> !compile | GIn
[04:36] <ubotu> GIn: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:41] <parsnip> hi all
[04:41] <parsnip> i just downloaded a video but its compressed into a .SOL file
[04:41] <parsnip> can anyone suggest a solution to get this played at all
[04:43] <poison--> richard_ , ootb... im new to kubuntu, is dat a package
[04:43] <poison--> and damn thing dont seems to find my interrogation key here lmao
[04:43] <runlevelten> Well firstly, I have to underline the irony of it being called an "SOL" and not playing.
[04:43] <runlevelten> Then I will see if anything plays it :D
[04:44] <parsnip> cheers runlevelten
[04:45] <kabuto> salut
[04:54] <Hub441> hi!
[04:54] <parsnip> sup Hub441
[04:54] <Hub441> i've read about using "pin_helper" in hcid.conf. is this still needed for feisty? daemon.log says that this is a unknowen option
[04:55] <BurningRanger> i'm running AMD64 and so i can't run flashplugin-nonfree. i'm looking at using one of the free alternatives. which is best?
[04:56] <winbond> yesss, beta2 it here
[04:57] <BurningRanger> is it worth it though
[04:58] <BurningRanger> i mean don't i get like sweet performance increases from all the bits i'm shoving aorund
[04:58] <Hub441> shouldn't passkey-agent run by default as a service?
[04:59] <Hub441> just started "passkey-agent --default..." and bt pairing works!
[04:59] <parsnip> BurningRanger: theres an Open source flash version of flash
[04:59] <BurningRanger> do you think i should use a SMP build then?
[04:59] <flatulent> ubuntu documents say a 15% performance increase
[04:59] <BurningRanger> right, there's a couple, parsnip. i'm wondering which is best.
[05:00] <llutz> Hub441: hopefully bt-pairing will be working in gutsy without all those issues
[05:00] <parsnip> BurningRanger: ive read stiff about gnash
[05:00] <parsnip> BurningRanger: seems ok
[05:00] <flatulent> yes use  SMP
[05:01] <flatulent> use x86_64 if it does what you want to do
[05:01] <parsnip> BurningRanger: no one is best, or we'd all use it
[05:02] <winbond> i've red some review that shoed x64 is slower at pretty much everything than x32, except for compiling atuff
[05:02] <parsnip> BurningRanger: see which works for you
[05:02] <winbond> stuuff
[05:02] <flatulent> x86_64 would not do what I wanted to do, so i switched back
[05:02] <winbond> stuff
[05:02] <parsnip> BurningRanger: have fun, get messy
[05:02] <BurningRanger> now here's the $64 question
[05:02] <BurningRanger> to switch to a SMP build or something - do i have to do a claen install
[05:03] <tatters> trying to synch my laptop and desktop using unison and ssh, where does koffice store all my user data and prefrences?
[05:04] <Hub441> llutz: pairing works in gusty but that obex-filetransfer-app crashes. but there's a update available that i didn't install so far.
[05:05] <llutz> Hub441: ah, nice. i'll wait those 5 weeks, let them fix all that...
[05:07] <BurningRanger> so is that a yes, or a no...?
[05:07] <BurningRanger> a maybe so?
[05:08] <tluca1> is there a way to use the gecko rendering engine in konqueror??
[05:08] <flatulent> switching to x86_64 would be a clean install
[05:08] <arash> you guys know why beryl deactivates my keyboard and removes the 'minimize/maximize/close' buttons form all the windwos?
[05:09] <BurningRanger> but switching from?
[05:09] <flatulent> yes switching to 32 bit would be a clean install too
[05:09] <BurningRanger> okay
[05:09] <BurningRanger> i'll get started on that then
[05:14] <tatters> if I synched my entire /me/home inc .hidden from my desktop to my laptop, is there anything I might need to filter out to prevent problems?
[05:15] <winbond> Hub441, whats pairing?
[05:16] <arash> hmm, keyboard still works with beryl
[05:16] <arash> but I cant move windows
[05:16] <GIn> is it possible to configure kde to only previews images and not documents?
[05:17] <winbond> arash, there is no beryl, only compiz fusion ;o)
[05:17] <stdin> GIn: View > Preview       to set what gets previewed
[05:18] <combinio> how to clean up temporary files ?
[05:18] <Jucato> bah stdin beat me.. :(
[05:18] <arash> winbond:  what you mean?
[05:18] <Jucato> combinio: which temporary files?
[05:18] <combinio> Jucato: ALL temporary files :D
[05:18] <combinio> there must be some, right ;)
[05:18] <hcbox> where can i watch log of apps crash
[05:19] <winbond> arash, beryl merged with comipz, and its now called compiz fusion
[05:19] <Jucato> combinio: Alt+F2, "kcontrol", Security & Privacy -> Privacy
[05:19] <combinio> Jucato: thx
[05:19] <fdoving> combinio: /tmp/ will be automatically cleaned on reboot. if you're looking for freeing some space, you might want to remove the apt cache. 'sudo apt-get clean' in a konsole might help you.
[05:19] <combinio> fdoving: understood, thx :)
[05:19] <paipaipai> hello. i just replaced ubuntu with kubuntu on my dualboot laptop. all of a sudden the windows entry in the grub menu disappeared. how can i restore it?
[05:20] <winbond> !pairing
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pairing - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <llutz> winbond: pairing means connection of two bluetooth-devices
[05:22] <winbond> llutz, oh , thanks
[05:22] <gcreator> exit
[05:23] <paipaipai> hello. i just replaced ubuntu with kubuntu on my dualboot laptop. all of a sudden the windows entry in the grub menu disappeared. how can i restore it?
[05:24] <poison--> edit grub i guess
[05:24] <poison--> menu.lst
[05:25] <Jucato> !grub
[05:25] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:25] <tatters> does anyone know where  koffice stores user data for korganizer etc?
[05:25] <Jucato> you mean kontact, don't you?
[05:26] <llutz> tatters: ~/.kde/share/apps...
[05:26] <Jucato> korganizer stores it's data in ~/.kde/share/apps/korganizer/
[05:26] <paipaipai> poison, i tried doing it and followed the instructions on http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty/BootMenu#How_to_add_Windows_entry_into_GRUB_menu but i always get an error message
[05:26] <tatters> Jucato: thnx
[05:27] <paipaipai> poison, everytime i type this sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst_backup and this: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst -- i get error messages
[05:27] <Jucato> tatters: you could always export/save the current calender into iCal/vCal/whatever
[05:27] <GIn> how to put a application launches at startup?
[05:27] <Jucato> paipaipai: because gksudo and gedit are GNOME/Ubuntu apps which don't exist in KDE/Kubuntu?
[05:28] <stdin> !autostart | GIn
[05:28] <ubotu> GIn: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[05:28] <Jucato> paipaipai: replace gksudo gedit with "kdesu kate"
[05:28] <tatters> Jucato: been trying to sync my laptop n desktop using unison and ssh ,
[05:28] <Jucato> ah I see
[05:28] <paipaipai> poison, will update shortly
[05:28] <tatters> Jucato: not sure if it ok to sync the whole home folder including hidden
[05:28] <Jucato> tatters: application data are stored in ~/.kde/share/apps/ and configuration files are in ~/.kde/share/config/
[05:29] <Jucato> tatters: I'm not sure either.
[05:31] <tatters> Jucato: thnx for info ill add those, just seems theres a lot of folders n files in home and taking an age to selectivly  choose what not to sync
[05:34] <mauri> how to converter mpe to wav?
[05:36] <Carnage\> mauri: You could use mplayer
[05:37] <Carnage\> It can output the stream it just played
[05:37] <Kein> Why does the VMWare package keep making Adept hang?
[05:39] <mauri> Carnage\: how it should be used....is it a player and not a converter
[05:41] <capre_tenebrum> how to see a version my friend's icq client in sim (or in licq) ?
[05:43] <Carnage\> mauri: Take a look at the manpage
[05:44] <Carnage\> It can act as decoder too
[05:44] <Carnage\> -dumpaudio may work
[05:45] <stdin> Kein: because you have to accept the licence
[05:46] <Kein> There's no option to do so, though. =(
[05:46] <stdin> Kein: click the show details (or something) button
[05:47] <Kein> Gives me a license, no option to accept. ;/
[05:47] <poison--> anyone using MCE
[05:47] <Kein> ...aaaand adept decided to hang LITERALLY this time.
[05:47] <jaims> hi all
[05:48] <jaims> which is the more suitable channel to ask about compiz fussion / kubuntu?
[05:48] <Kein> !adeptfix > Kein
[05:48] <poison--> kein, think its a problem with packages
[05:48] <Kein> Alright.
[05:48] <poison--> had an issue with it too
[05:48] <stdin> jaims: #ubuntu-effects
[05:48] <Kein> That's the only one I'm having trouble with, though.
[05:48] <jaims> stdin: thank you
[05:48] <poison--> when u pic vmware to install, it install other dependencies
[05:48] <stdin> poison--: no, it's a problem with adept
[05:48] <jaims> bye all
[05:48] <poison--> usuallye gcc, older version with m
[05:48] <Kein> Hmm.
[05:48] <Hub441_> hmm fund a kbluelock locale but no kbluelock binary. packages.ubuntu.com says that's in kbluetooth for gusty but not feisty :(
[05:49] <Kein> I've got Synaptic on here too.  Would that be more suitable to install it with?
[05:49] <poison--> try it
[05:49] <stdin> Kein: either that it apt-get
[05:49] <poison--> with me its said gcc package would break other package and just stoped
[05:50] <poison--> and kein, why dont u try wine instead of vmware
[05:50] <Kein> poison: I -have- wine. =D
[05:50] <poison--> :D
[05:50] <poison--> luvely thing
[05:50] <Kein> I know what doesn't work with it, though.
[05:50] <poison--> :(
[05:50] <Kein> And that's the program I use to GM half of my P&P games with.
[05:50] <Kein> =/
[05:51] <Kein> Or play in the rest, mind you.
[05:51] <poison--> couldnt install vmware here either
[05:51] <Kein> I have no clue why they're using D3D, in all honesty.
[05:51] <Kein> I tried installing OpenRPG, but it didn't work; followed the EXACT instructions and it won't let me boot up because wxPython isn't found or something.
[05:52] <Kein> Took about ten minutes to install the damn thing, too. =/
[05:53] <Kein> Anyways.  Are there any particular must-haves for kubuntu?
[05:53] <poison--> well, im messing around with it for 2 weeks now
[05:53] <poison--> had tons of issues with some laptops, but now all seems easy
[05:53] <poison--> MCE is not helpin me either
[05:54] <Kein> Well, looks like I have to reboot thanks to packages breaking again.
[05:54] <Kein> brb.
[05:54] <poison--> k
[05:57] <mauri> Carnage\: i didn't find
[05:57] <mauri> Carnage\: how to use mplayer to ocnvert mp3 2 wav
[05:57] <Carnage\> Read the manpage... man mplayer
[05:58] <Kein> Well, rebooting didn't fix it...
[05:58] <rand_acs_> has anyone here every gotten this message when trying to start emerald? emerald: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0"
[05:59] <rand_acs_> I can't seem to figure out what's causing it... it doesn't want to load at all
[06:00] <PhinnFort> are there any clients for the music player daemon (mpd) for KDE in the standard repositories?
[06:00] <PhinnFort> i can't find kmp
[06:03] <poison--> kein, just installed synaptic and vmware worked fine
[06:03] <Kein> Alright.
[06:03] <Kein> That's not my problem now, though.
[06:03] <judgen> !compile
[06:03] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:03] <poison--> u sure u have all thackages needed
[06:03] <Kein> Now I have to fix packages and I have no clue how.  Ran the adeptfix command, but...
[06:03] <poison--> try apt-get -f install
[06:04] <Kein> Got you.
[06:04] <Kein> ...aaaand the terminal hangs.
[06:04] <Kein> Wait.
[06:04] <Kein> There we go.
[06:05] <poison--> lmao
[06:06] <Kein> Well, once this is working it's time to install XP, even though I really don't want to.
[06:06] <Kein> woot.
[06:06] <poison--> did it work
[06:06] <Kein> Yes.
[06:06] <poison--> cool
[06:06] <rand_acs_> apt-get -f install is awesome
[06:07] <poison--> first cmd i learned
[06:07] <poison--> lol
[06:07] <Hub441_> wich bluetooth profile do i need to provide my pda access to the internet?
[06:07] <rand_acs_> poison--: lol
[06:07] <poison--> always fuckin around with packages
[06:07] <poison--> fast i learned dat cmd
[06:08] <rand_acs_> yeah I can't resist either...
[06:08] <Kein> YAY
[06:08] <linkin_park> hi
[06:08] <facugaich> Hi, I have this .avi with dual audio but kaffeine lets me play only one. Help?
[06:08] <poison--> usually i get the same error while installing sl-modemd
[06:08] <Kein> Now ZSNES is running.
[06:08] <poison--> and i always need to do dat cmd
[06:08] <poison--> ZNES rock
[06:08] <poison--> lmao
[06:09] <poison--> kein, u can also try uninstall vmware, or purge and install again
[06:09] <poison--> worked with amarok 4 me
[06:09] <Kein> It's working now, so I'm unconcerned.
[06:09] <Kein> ;/
[06:09] <poison--> sweet
[06:09] <Kein> However, now the problem I want to solve is with KMix and that involves updating to Edgy/Feisty.
[06:09] <linkin_park> my tv card doesnt work :(
[06:09] <poison--> linkin_park, wich brand
[06:09] <Kein> The 6.06 one doesn't seem to have support for headphones.
[06:10] <linkin_park> saa7133
[06:10] <poison--> kein, whats wrong with it
[06:10] <linkin_park> pinnacle
[06:10] <linkin_park> 110i
[06:10] <Kein> It doesn't have headphone support and I use headphones exclusively.
[06:10] <Kein> ;/
[06:10] <poison--> try alsamixer
[06:10] <Kein> Okay.
[06:11] <poison--> only got a pixelview and a powercolor to run rite here
[06:11] <llutz> Hub441_: i guess "lan-access"
[06:11] <poison--> almost got an ASUS W2 tv card to work tho
[06:11] <PhinnFort> !mpd
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <PhinnFort> I want to control MPD from my kubuntu machine, is that much to demand;)
[06:11] <poison--> !ootb
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ootb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <PhinnFort> ?
[06:12] <PhinnFort> there's at least two clients available, afaik
[06:12] <Hub441> llutz: my pda provides this but not localhost in bluetooth:/
[06:12] <rock_> !
[06:13] <rand_acs_> is anyone running compiz-fusion?
[06:13] <linkin_park> no
[06:14] <BluesKaj> !compiz | rand_acs_
[06:14] <linkin_park> my emerald doesnt even work ^^
[06:14] <ubotu> rand_acs_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:14] <llutz> Hub441: try to use "pand"
[06:14] <rand_acs_> all the packages are marked "BREAK" for me in Adept
[06:14] <Kein> alsamix didn't do anything.
[06:14] <rand_acs_> Beryl works fine btw
[06:15] <poison--> kein, make sure theres no channel muted
[06:15] <BluesKaj> rand_acs_, do you have synaptic installed?
[06:15] <linkin_park> dmesg says: saa7134[0] : i2c eeprom 10: 00 f0 04 04 ff 20 ff ff ff.....
[06:16] <rand_acs_> BluesKaj: no
[06:16] <Kein> None of them are muted.
[06:16] <Kein> It plays sounds when the jack's out and doesn't when it's in.
[06:16] <Kein> Like porn, but in reverse.
[06:16] <poison--> ahahahahahahhaha
[06:17] <Kein> There's not even an option to choose the headphone jack for sounds. =/
[06:17] <poison--> dats weird tho
[06:17] <Kein> Master, PCM, Capture.
[06:17] <Kein> None are muted.
[06:17] <poison--> weird
[06:17] <poison--> whats the card brand
[06:17] <ksivaji> !ratpoison
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ratpoison - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <linkin_park> your headset doesnt work?
[06:17] <poison--> lol
[06:18] <Kein> Not at all.
[06:18] <Kein> Um, lemme see.
[06:18] <linkin_park> i got the same problem but its just if my headset is in the front output
[06:18] <Kein> HDA ATI SD
[06:18] <poison--> just a sec
[06:18] <Kein> There's no option to change that and there's only one headphone jack.
[06:18] <poison--> is it a ati chipset based mobo
[06:18] <Kein> Dunno.
[06:18] <Kein> Chip = Realtek ID 862
[06:19] <poison--> are u on  alaptop
[06:19] <Kein> Yes.
[06:19] <BluesKaj> rand_acs_, try to install synaptic with apt if possible , it has a fix broken pkges feature in it's edit option ..sometimes it works very well.
[06:19] <poison--> just a sec
[06:19] <poison--> tested kubuntu with asus and acer atis mobos.. worked fine
[06:19] <rand_acs_> BluesKaj: thanks for the tip, I'll try it out :)
[06:19] <Kein> Using 6.06, right?
[06:19] <poison--> no, 7.04
[06:19] <Kein> There you go.
[06:20] <Kein> How am I supposed to update?  I've got a CD here but no idea how to make the dist-upgrade point at it.
[06:20] <linkin_park> hda_codec: Unknown model for ALC880, trying auto-probe from BIOS. o.O
[06:20] <poison--> kein, think u only need to update the kernel
[06:20] <poison--> but than again, i dunno much
[06:20] <poison--> its realtek
[06:21] <Kein> The kernel's updated as far as I can, to my knowledge.
[06:21] <linkin_park> poison can you help me with my tv card :D
[06:21] <poison--> linkin, just a sec
[06:23] <poison--> linkin_park
[06:23] <linkin_park> ye
[06:23] <poison--> do a lspci and past me the result in pm
[06:23] <linkin_park> ok
[06:25] <poison--> kein, i have the 2.6.20.16
[06:26] <linkin_park> !help
[06:26] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:26] <Kein> Alright.
[06:26] <linkin_park> damn how to register xDD
[06:27] <Kein> How do I update?  Sorry if I'm debian-dumb; I'm far more used to working with Windows despite not really liking it.
[06:27] <poison--> open adept
[06:28] <poison--> search for: linux-headers 2.6.20.16, , linux-headers 2.6.20.16, generic
[06:29] <poison--> linux-image-2.6.20.16 and linux-image-2.6.20.16 generic
[06:30] <poison--> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20.16 and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20.16-generic
[06:30] <luke403> does any one know how to adjust my nvidia color settings after i installed nvidia settings
[06:30] <poison--> dat should do it i guess
[06:31] <linkin_park> xconfig
[06:31] <linkin_park> o.O
[06:31] <poison--> lmao
[06:31] <poison--> i wish i could setup the video card in this laptop
[06:32] <luke403> how do u do x config
[06:32] <poison--> try the system configs
[06:32] <linkin_park> register olchi
[06:33] <poison--> !ati
[06:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:33] <poison--> :D
[06:35] <rand_acs_> poison--: you might want to check out Envy, that worked *very* well for me
[06:35] <stdin> !envy
[06:35] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[06:35] <poison--> rand_acs, its a VIA laptop
[06:35] <rand_acs_> it works for ATI and nVidia
[06:36] <poison--> with S3 Unichrome
[06:36] <rand_acs_> well, it's worked on 3 machines for me without any issues
[06:37] <Kein> poison, would it just be easier to just try to install Edgy on this?
[06:37] <stdin> "works for me" is not a valid reason to tell others to use something, just ask ubotu
[06:37] <poison--> Rise_agaist
[06:38] <Rise_Against> yea
[06:38] <poison--> seems im not reged.. so i cant talk in pm
[06:38] <poison--> lmao
[06:38] <Rise_Against> do this: /msg nickserv register <your-password>
[06:38] <Rise_Against> but private :P
[06:38] <poison--> weird.. it should show saa7134 and saa7134-alsa
[06:39] <Rise_Against> hmm
[06:39] <rand_acs_> btw, if you have beryl installed and you want to install compiz-fusion is it best to uninstall beryl completely before hand?
[06:39] <poison--> why in da hell would u want to unistall beryl...
[06:39] <poison--> lmao
[06:39] <stdin> rand_acs_: yeah
[06:40] <rand_acs_> poison--: because as far as I understand compiz-fusion has more features
[06:48] <FSHero> Hi all: I want to move photos that I have tagged with digiKam to another folder, without losing the tags. How would I go about this?
[06:49] <Kein> Alright, I think I'm going to update to Edgy then Feisty.
[06:49] <Kein> Or can I just go straight to Feisty?
[06:49] <stdin> Kein: no, you have to follow the releases
[06:50] <Kein> Alright.
[06:50] <Kein> How do I update to Edgy, then?
[06:51] <stdin> Kein: you'll have to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades#head-d8c4cd1dd987e54723fef2760b37f9279487551f
[06:54] <Kein> Alright.
[06:54] <blizzzek> is it possible that konqueror ignores a defined style with !important-attribute in the default css, when the website's css file is overloading it?
[06:59] <stdin> blizzzek: #kde would be a better place to ask that
[06:59] <poison--> crap
[06:59] <poison--> my first freeze in 2 weeks
[07:00] <blizzzek> stdin: thx
[07:03] <ironfroggy> I just downloaded the Fiesty desktop CD and I'm getting a kernel panic when i run it. "Invalid compressed format (err=2)"
[07:05] <NickPresta> ironfroggy, based on my google research, that probably means your CD drive isn't reading the CD properly. I suggest you burn the image on a CD-R at the slowest speed possible.
[07:06] <ironfroggy> ill run the cd check to be sure.
[07:06] <poison--> !envy
[07:06] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[07:06] <NickPresta> ironfroggy, yeah, for sure. If you search google with that error, you get lots of potential reasons. See if you fit into one situation
[07:07] <ironfroggy> i just wanna make sure the disk is gonna work, and then im making my wife install it herself this time. its high time she learn herself.
[07:08] <NickPresta> heh. I understand. A "broken" CD would certainly turn her off, yeah.
[07:11] <ironfroggy> ugh.. i cant run the  check. because i get a kernel panic.
[07:12] <ironfroggy> ill double check it here against the ISO.
[07:13] <ironfroggy> yes she is very good with what she knows but freezes when she sees what she doesn't know. im thinking making her do things like this will teach her to stop bugging me :-
[07:13] <ironfroggy> :-)
[07:14] <seanpcrowe> hey peeps...
[07:14] <NickPresta> !hi | seanpcrowe
[07:14] <ubotu> seanpcrowe: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:14] <Kein> WTF?
[07:14] <Kein> I can't run a gksu command...
[07:15] <NickPresta> Kein, are you on Kubuntu? If so, it's kdesu.
[07:15] <stdin> gksu = gnome, kdesu = kfr
[07:15] <seanpcrowe> i have bought a Pinnicle USB 71e tuner card... and i have no idea how to get it to work in kubuntu lol
[07:15] <Kein> Oh, thanks man.
[07:15] <stdin> kde*
[07:15] <seanpcrowe> can anyone point me in the direction to go to try and get it working?
[07:15] <Kein> Should've realized that frmo the "g" there.
[07:16] <Kein> ... D=
[07:16] <stdin> ironfroggy: you can check the mk5sum of the burnt image with "md5sum /dev/scd0" (changing scd0 to your cdrom device)
[07:16] <seanpcrowe> its a DVB stick btw...
[07:17] <seanpcrowe> mmm, can i probe my USB array to see if kubuntu can actually see it???
[07:17] <Kein> I tried it and this is what happened...
[07:17] <Kein> #
[07:17] <Kein> #
[07:17] <Kein> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[07:17] <Kein> #
[07:17] <Kein> Xlib: No protocol specified
[07:17] <NickPresta> seanpcrowe, would your device be the same as a Pinnacle PCTV USB DBV-T receiver?
[07:17] <Kein> ...
[07:17] <Kein> shit
[07:17] <Kein> sorry
[07:17] <Kein> thought I copypasted the pastebin url
[07:18] <kdubois> seanpcrowe: check with  #linuxtv or #dvb to see if it has support
[07:18] <Kein> http://pastebin.ca/687303
[07:18] <NickPresta> seanpcrowe, check out: http://www.2nrds.com/digital-tv-in-linux-with-em28xx-devices
[07:18] <stdin> Kein: and watch the language too
 seanpcrowe, would your device be the same as a Pinnacle PCTV USB DBV-T receiver? <----- yes it is
[07:19] <NickPresta> seanpcrowe, check out: http://www.2nrds.com/digital-tv-in-linux-with-em28xx-devices
[07:19] <seanpcrowe> kdubois, ok, thanks for them channels =)
[07:19] <Kein> sorry, it's almost reflexive
[07:19] <seanpcrowe> NickPresta, ok dude thanks for the link... checking it out now...
[07:19] <Kein> I try to watch it <_>
[07:20] <Kein> kdesu is saying that the update manager command doesn't exit.
[07:20] <Kein> *exist
[07:21] <stdin> again, that's for gnome, look down 
[07:21] <Kein> oh
[07:21] <Kein> okay
[07:22] <stdin> Kein: the upgrade to feisty will be easier, getting to edgy's the challenge
[07:23] <poison--> woot
[07:23] <ironfroggy> anyone know of a decent tool to verify a cd checksum on windows?
[07:23] <Kein> Alright.
[07:23] <stdin> ironfroggy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#head-cc4057205f46f3da4e36ee1974c50c51bd89ed24
[07:25] <ironfroggy> that only shows how i can check the ISO checksum
[07:26] <ironfroggy> i cant find anything that will verify the CD itself
[07:27] <stdin> ironfroggy: I think some cd-burning apps can check the md5sum, maybe nero, but I don't know.
[07:28] <ironfroggy> yeah i found the checkbox
[07:34] <BluesKaj> ironfroggy, better to ask in ##windows
[07:34] <ironfroggy> eh, yeah that place is crap.
[07:34] <Kein> ;/
[07:35] <kkathman> no it really isnt ironfroggy
[07:35] <BluesKaj> K3B does a checksum on ISO files
[07:35] <kkathman> some very knowledgeable people there in both windows and linux :)
[07:35] <msoini> i have a problem with K3b, or at leas that's what I think is fouling up
[07:35] <ironfroggy> kkathman: well i never have any luck finding a decent human being there.
[07:35] <ironfroggy> maybe i just had bad timing.
[07:36] <msoini> takes forever to start it, then it disables my dvdr
[07:36] <kkathman> ironfroggy:  well I dont know what your standards are, but quux is top notch
[07:36] <ironfroggy> channels loose it when people just get ignored.
[07:36] <kkathman> and there are some really good administrators there
[07:36] <msoini> oh yeah, i'm really, really new to linux
[07:36] <BluesKaj> msoini, mp3 burning ?
[07:36] <msoini> no
[07:37] <msoini> can't burn anything
[07:37] <msoini> i ran the 64 bit version of kubuntu for the last 4-5 months, swithced to the 32 biit yesterday
[07:37] <msoini> *bit
[07:38] <BluesKaj> can you play dvds ?
[07:38] <will_> Hey
[07:38] <msoini> yes
[07:38] <will_> How do I unlock more repositories again?
[07:38] <msoini> but as soon as i launch k3b my dvd drive "locks up"
[07:38] <will_> Im in the package manager but dont have much to download
[07:38] <stdin> !repos
[07:38] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:39] <BluesKaj> will_, you want to add more repositories for more packages ?
[07:39] <ksivaji> BluesKaj my system hangs when i start games ,where i can see the bug report
[07:40] <BluesKaj> ksivaji, start the game from the Konsole
[07:40] <will_> yes
[07:40] <will_> I would like to install some music software like audacity
[07:40] <ksivaji> will_ are you dr_wills
[07:41] <will_> uhhhh hahaha
[07:41] <will_> Im studying computer science but Im not dr
[07:41] <will_> Dr love maybe :P
[07:41] <ksivaji> will_  i saw a person with nick dr_wills
[07:42] <will_> Def not me
[07:43] <ksivaji> will_  ya because dr_wills is smart
[07:44] <ksivaji> BluesKaj but my mouse and keyboard doesnt works when i start game how can i see the dug report
[07:44] <BluesKaj> ok will_ we need to add more repositories to your sources.list ..alt+F2 copy and paste this into the dialog box ' kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list '  , then open this URL http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[07:44] <ScorpKing> i have all the repos enabled. if i install someting lik xmms i get 'Untrusted packages could compromise your system's security.' - why?
[07:45] <BluesKaj> ksivaji, the errors should be generated in the konsole when you start the game
[07:45] <stdin> ScorpKing: try running "sudo apt-get update"
[07:45] <ScorpKing> ok
[07:45] <ksivaji> stdin ya are the right person for my question
[07:46] <stdin> ksivaji: I'd say do what BluesKaj suggests
[07:46] <ksivaji> my system hang whenever i start games  (except for open arena ) why >
[07:46] <BluesKaj> will_, follow the instructions on source-o-matic and keep the page open
[07:47] <ksivaji> stdin is there any log file where i can find the reason for hanging
[07:47] <stdin> ksivaji: you need to look at the output from the game
[07:48] <ksivaji> stdin i cant get you
[07:48] <FSHero> !K3B
[07:48] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[07:48] <stdin> ksivaji, start the game from the Konsole
[07:48] <arnold_> Hello, I'm new to kubuntu/ubuntu. I did only about 5 installations. On one of my machines with an nvidia geforce4 I have always the same problem. Where can I discuss something like that?
[07:50] <stdin> ksivaji, start the game like "game-command & > game.log" then the output will go in to "game.log" so you can look at it
[07:50] <BluesKaj> will_, we're going to replace the old sources list with new text and new repositories , so once you generated the new sources.list on the page , delete the text in the old page and copy and paste the text from the source-o-matic page into the blank sources.list and click save.
[07:51] <BluesKaj> will_, the sudo apt-get update
[07:51] <BluesKaj> will_, are you there ?
[07:51] <NickPresta> arnold_, you can describe your problem fully here, but if the problem is too long or requires text examples, you can use a pastebin.
[07:51] <NickPresta> !pastebin | arnold_
[07:51] <ubotu> arnold_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:55] <arnold_> after the installation the x-server starts normally. then, when I install the nvidia driver and use the nvidia-glx-config enable command the x-server does not start. The reason is a wrond busID before the installtion it is 1:0:0 afterwards it is changed to 0:5:0. if I change the busid everything is ok. Do you thing this is only a problem on my machine or something worth for a general bug report?
[07:57] <stdin> arnold_: you should probably report it, just in case.
[07:57] <ironfroggy> i cant find a spare blank CD or a CD-RW i can blank. can i burn the CD ISO to a DVD? cause i've got more of those than i know what to do with.
[07:58] <sivaji_> stdin blueskaj  once again same thing i got some error message in konsole but i cant read that because vdrift games windows is covering konsole
[07:58] <stdin> ironfroggy: yeah, you just have to tell the application you're burning a dvd iso (not a cd iso)
[07:58] <stdin> ksivaji, start the game like "game-command & > game.log" then the output will go in to "game.log" so you can look at it
[07:58] <ironfroggy> even if i have is the actual CD ISO?
[07:59] <stdin> ironfroggy: yep
[07:59] <BluesKaj> sivaji_, sorry , i'm not a gamer so i really have no experience to help you
[07:59] <stdin> ksivaji, like "game-command &> game.log"  (no space after '&')
[08:00] <ksivaji> stdin ok
[08:00] <poison--> envy its only fr ati and nvidia guys
[08:00] <poison--> and dats a question
[08:01] <BluesKaj> is the envy driver install working in feisty ?
[08:01] <sea4ever> How do I change my quit message in Konversation?
[08:02] <poison--> BluesKaj>, didnt tried it ati or nvidia
[08:02] <BluesKaj> sea4ever, look in settings/configure konversation
[08:02] <poison--> was hopping it fixes my s3 card
[08:02] <stdin> sea4ever: F8 > advanced
[08:02] <ironfroggy> oh, dang, i forgot i cant use a dvd. the target box only has CD-ROMs
[08:05] <sea4ever> Got it thanks
[08:05] <sea4ever> Today's theme : Samaurai Ninja
[08:08] <amnesiac_hackers> hai folks
[08:10] <sea4ever> hello
[08:15] <deviance> How can i change what folders are in my system menu
[08:17] <NickPresta> deviance, you can right click on a menu item and then click "Edit Menu". You can organize the KMenu all you want
[08:18] <tobias_> uhoh - I was about to press enter with the same information
[08:18] <tobias_> you beat me to it :)
[08:18] <Random832> why can't kpowersave manage the display brightness?
[08:18] <deviance> Not the Kmenu the system menu of places like home
[08:19] <NickPresta> deviance, Home, Storage Places, Remote Places, User Folders. That menu?
[08:19] <deviance> Yeah
[08:19] <sea4ever> I'm goe
[08:19] <sea4ever> Bye!
[08:19] <tobias_> byebye
[08:20] <NickPresta> deviance, I'm not sure you can. It's an applet so I don't know if it can be edited easily.
[08:20] <deviance> OOk thanks
[08:21] <NickPresta> deviance, it belongs to kicker, so you might have better luck on their forums or channel
[08:23] <tinin> Hi, I need to compile something, and inside there'a a file called "qflv2avi.pro", How do I use it?
[08:24] <NickPresta> tinin, have you ever compiled software before?
[08:24] <tinin> yes
[08:25] <tinin> but this does not seem like "./configure && make && sudocheckinstall"
[08:25] <tinin> maybe I need to use cmake?
[08:25] <NickPresta> tinin, did you get this from the kde-apps.org website?
[08:25] <tinin> yeah
[08:25] <NickPresta> tinin, let me see what I can do
[08:25] <tinin> but nothing explained there
[08:26] <tinin> scons?
[08:28] <tinin> I just found this easy gui to convert flv to avi, I need it to see some films on the dvdplayer in divx
[08:28] <tinin> I hope it works
[08:29] <TraX> Does anybody know the package I need so that I can connect to the internet with my pda via bluetooth?
[08:31] <stdin> deviance: just add a link to the place you want to ~/.kde/share/apps/systemview/ (or /usr/share/apps/systemview/ for all users)
[08:33] <spiroo> Hi, does anybody knew the exact changes from Gutsy Tribe 4 and Tribe 5
[08:33] <spiroo> *know
[08:33] <NickPresta> tinin, in the qflv2avi-0.4 folder, do this: `qmake -project`, then `qmake qflv2avi.pro`, then `make`. It should work just fine.
[08:33] <stdin> bug fixes
[08:34] <tinin> Thanx NickPresta, I had no idea
[08:34] <spiroo> stdin: like what?
[08:34] <NickPresta> tinin, you need to install the 'qt4-designer' package, I believe
[08:35] <spiroo> sound, monitor, boot?
[08:35] <stdin> spiroo: just general bug fixes
[08:35] <NickPresta> tinin, since I don't have it installed and when I try to `make`, I get an error about not having version 4.0
[08:35] <spiroo> I guess the error when you boot and the monitor starts to blink. You press ctr+alt+f1 and then change tty and then wola you got in
[08:36] <tinin> I'll do <NickPresta>
[08:36] <spiroo> That has been fixed, and the resolution
[08:36] <NickPresta> tinin, if that doesn't work, I'm out of ideas. It may be better to ask on the kde-apps page
[08:36] <spiroo> btw, one darn annoying thing is when you upgrade kernel it does not remove the other previous one in grub. How to fix?
[08:37] <newoned> hi i just did some updates and now ktorrent is giveing me "cannot talk to klauncher" error message....is there a fix?
[08:37] <NickPresta> spiroo, uninstall the other kernel
[08:37] <newoned> u can edit the grub list
[08:37] <stdin> spiroo: that's not a bug..
[08:37] <spiroo> hehe okay, how to fix then?
[08:37] <NickPresta> spiroo, uninstall the previous kernel
[08:37] <spiroo> sudo grub update?
[08:37] <stdin> spiroo: remove the older kernel package
[08:38] <stdin> newoned: try running "klauncher"
[08:38] <spiroo> but it is different ones like header, kernel, main, restricted. Which to remove so the linux still works after
[08:38] <TraX> !bluetooth
[08:38] <TraX> ! bluetooth
[08:38] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[08:39] <spiroo> Now I am installing 2.6.22-11, why does it not remove the previous one?
[08:39] <Kein> I'm getting a lot of perl errors while updating kubuntu...
[08:39] <GIn> any way to put a "close button" on each tab in Konqueror?
[08:39] <stdin> spiroo: because you can (and should) have more than one kernel version installed
[08:39] <spiroo> because?
[08:39] <stdin> Kein: that should pass
[08:40] <Kein> it's not, I'm getting a lot of locale errors ;/
[08:40] <Kein> they pop up fairly frequently, like once every couple of minutes
[08:40] <stdin> spiroo: incase something doesn't work in the newer one
[08:40] <spiroo> Okay then, but how to remove the other ones from grub?
[08:40] <ShaneN> Hello
[08:40] <stdin> spiroo: I told you, remove the old package
[08:40] <ShaneN> After changing the computer name, does the machine require rebooting?
[08:40] <Kein> ...wtf
[08:40] <spiroo> ah okay, yea it is probably good to not remove the previous ones ;)
[08:40] <stdin> ShaneN: yep
[08:40] <Kein> it failed on unpacking the linux image
[08:40] <ShaneN> stdin: Thanks
[08:40] <spiroo> Ah tanks for clarifying that
[08:40] <Kein> repeatedly
[08:41] <tinin> no luck NickPresta: $ make
[08:41] <tinin> /usr/share/qt3/bin/uic src/configview.ui -o build/configview.h
[08:41] <tinin> uic: File generated with too recent version of Qt Designer (4.0 vs. 3.3.7)
[08:41] <tinin> make: *** [build/configview.h]  Error 1
[08:41] <stdin> Kein: yeah, they should stop after the updates are almost done
[08:41] <stdin> !paste | tinin
[08:41] <ubotu> tinin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:41] <NickPresta> !pastebin | tinin
[08:41] <tinin> :S
[08:41] <NickPresta> tinin, you didn't install qt4-designer, did you?
[08:41] <spiroo> Btw, I wonder does anybody now if you can install utorrent in linux, I do not wanna use KTorrent, it f***s up my router and internet
[08:41] <tinin> I know pastebin sorry, I was lazy for 3 lines
[08:41] <GIn> finally got my kubuntu looks better :) http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1bi9.png
[08:42] <NickPresta> spiroo, I used utorrent in Wine for a while.
[08:42] <tinin> yeah <NickPresta>
[08:42] <stdin> tinin: 4 actually :p
[08:42] <spiroo> cool, but is there not anyone in linux?
[08:42] <NickPresta> tinin, and the associated -dev packages?  libpq-dev libqt4-dev libsqlite0-dev
[08:42] <spiroo> I find Azureus and BitComet
[08:42] <spiroo> But azureus which is a good one does not work correct
[08:42] <NickPresta> GIn, nice looking desktop, although I'm not very fond of the docks at the bottom.
[08:42] <stdin> tinin: if it's a Qt4 app, you'll need to use qmake-qt4 instead of just qmake
[08:43] <Biovore> yup
[08:43] <Kein> that reminds me of the windows shell replacements ;/
[08:43] <GIn> NickPresta, I like it :)
[08:43] <NickPresta> stdin, oh. Thanks for that. I've never used qmake before. heh
[08:43] <kaminix2> Anyone here good with ddclient? I can't get mine working. (PM prefereble due to large pastes required)
[08:43] <tinin> yeah
[08:43] <tinin> It is a qt4 app, Ill try stdin
[08:44] <jrattner> How do I rotate the desktop cube using beryl?
[08:45] <GIn> NickPresta, this is how my konqueror is. http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot2zk9.png
[08:45] <tinin> so would it be like this? qmake-qt4 -project`, `qmake-qt4 qflv2avi.pro`, then  `make stdin?
[08:45] <NickPresta> GIn, I would love to swap pictures with you. Perhaps we should continue this in #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[08:46] <stdin> tinin: should be, yeah
[08:47] <BluesKaj> Is there a script for auto loading irc servers into konverstion? I'd like konversation much better if thewre was such a feature , xchat and other irc clients manage to do it , why not konversation ?
[08:47] <spiroo> When I tryng to start Azureus it does not start, anybody have similar problem like me?
[08:48] <Biovore> spiroo: probably a java problem..
[08:49] <spiroo> Biovore: What could be wrong about java then?
[08:49] <Biovore> no clue.. I don't use azureus anymore..
[08:49] <Biovore> ?
[08:49] <caris_mere> I need a little help getting a partition onto my fstab
[08:50] <spiroo> Azureus has been working before in Linux, but version 2.5.0 does nto work
[08:51] <spiroo> Azureus starts loading, but the logo and load bar does not dissapear and then launch application.
[08:51] <tinin> ahhrgg  I'll stick with qt3 app for the moment :S  It gives me errors while doing make NickPresta, stdin thanx anyway
[08:51] <spiroo> Biovore: Can you recommend another bittorrent client?
[08:51] <BluesKaj> spiroo, make sure you have java-common and j2re1.4 as a mininmum
[08:52] <spiroo> BluesKaj: I have it installed
[08:52] <BluesKaj> ktorrent works well
[08:52] <NickPresta> tinin, truthfully, the app seems superfluous. `ffmpeg -i video.flv video.avi` works fine
[08:52] <Biovore> spiroo: I use ktorrent..
[08:52] <spiroo> ktorrent does not work well with my router :D
[08:52] <Biovore> probably isn't setup right..
[08:52] <llutz> spiroo: fix your setup
[08:52] <spiroo> No that is not the problem
[08:52] <BluesKaj> spiroo , you have to port map your router with any P2P software
[08:53] <spiroo> My router/internet got hanging up after a while
[08:53] <spiroo> It works downloading and open ports
[08:53] <spiroo> But after a while the connection just dies and screw up my internet
 I do almost everything by gui, I don't like black terminals XD but I'll learn ffmpeg comands...
[08:54] <BluesKaj> look at the required port settings in the torrent client and use the tcp/udp port settings they recommend
[08:54] <llutz> spiroo: then limit the max connections, seems to cause an overflow in your routers  connection-table
[08:54] <mkaster> hey guys
 Deluge torrent is great too
[08:54] <spiroo> hmm okay, where to setup max connections then?
[08:55] <mkaster> where be the standby and suspend?
[08:55] <spiroo> nvm
[08:55] <spiroo> But why would 120 connections be to much per torrent?
[08:55] <spiroo> Does anybody knew what the max connections for linksys WRT54G is?
[08:56] <NickPresta> spiroo, KTorrent is great. Earlier versions had a couple problems but more recent versions are just as good as any other torrent. It's also nice being integrated into KDE too.
[08:56] <BluesKaj> keeps the client to busy
[08:56] <BluesKaj> too
[08:56] <Biovore> Its linux.. so alot.. but the more connections you got.. its going to lag your net connection bad..
[08:56] <mkaster> Where is suspend and standby?
[08:56] <spiroo> is 50 per torrent and global connections 500 good setting?
[08:57] <Biovore> spiroo: I ussualy only do 10 per torrent
[08:57] <Biovore> spiroo: 50 global
[08:57] <spiroo> heh okay, I test that then :P
[08:58] <Biovore> spiroo: But you must remember your transfer speeds have to do with whos uploading..
[08:58] <NickPresta> spiroo, try something like: http://www.utorrent.com/setup_guide.php
[09:00] <jerrold> hello all - im new to linux/kubuntu...i have compiz-fusion working..but when i run compiz -- replace..i lose all my window decorations...google doesnt give me any obvious fixes for "kubuntu compiz window decorations"  ..any guidance would be appreciated
[09:00] <spiroo> okay thanks
[09:01] <mkaster> what it nvram?
[09:01] <stdin> jerrold: make sure you installed compiz-kde, like it says here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[09:02] <logixoul> Hi, how do I downgrade a package in adept?
[09:02] <stdin> logixoul: you can't in adept
[09:03] <nivix_> s polacy?
[09:03] <stdin> !pl
[09:03] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:03] <logixoul> stdin: ok, apt then? :)
[09:03] <llutz> mkaster: Non Volatile Random Access Memory
[09:03] <stdin> logixoul: apt-get install <package>=version
[09:04] <logixoul> stdin: can I get a list of available versions somehow?
[09:04] <mkaster> why does it say it cannot read the nvram in my IBM Thinkpad Laptop tab of the laptop power options?
[09:04] <stdin> logixoul: not easily, maybe with "apt-cache policy <package>" or "aptitude changelog <package>"
[09:04] <mkaster> I have a thinkpad
[09:05] <Rawthang> hello dudes
[09:05] <logixoul> stdin: that works, thanks.
[09:05] <ironfroggy> might it be a bad sign that i burnt the cd twice on two different cd-rw's and neither one would verify after write?
[09:05] <llutz> mkaster: you maybe need to install the thinkpad-module
[09:05] <Rawthang> can anyone tell me the command to know witch wifi card i have on my laptop ?
[09:05] <llutz> Rawthang: lspci
[09:06] <Rawthang> thx
[09:06] <stdin> !wifi
[09:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:06] <Rawthang> i ll check that ;)
[09:06] <mkaster> llutz can you help me find the module? Right now this is my only resource for finding info for my thinkpad: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T22
[09:07] <llutz> mkaster: sorry, it's long ago that i used a thinkpad with linux, but try this: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
[09:07] <mkaster> llutz I am using that site
[09:07] <mkaster> where would it be? I have this page open: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T22
[09:08] <llutz> oops, read too late,sry
[09:08] <luk> hi
[09:09] <llutz> mkaster: shows "lsmod|grep nvram" an output?
[09:10] <mkaster> llutz what do you mean?
[09:10] <mkaster> do that command?
[09:10] <llutz> mkaster:open a console and type this command: "lsmod|grep nvram"
[09:10] <Krum> can anyone direct me to the winehq irc channel?
[09:11] <stdin> #winehq
[09:11] <mkaster> nvram                   9224  1
[09:11] <Krum> ty
[09:11] <mkaster> that is what I get
[09:11] <bitlost> has anyone's power manager gone crazy? mine keeps switching between plugged and unplugged with no reason for that...
[09:12] <luk> can i make a question?
[09:12] <stdin> !ask
[09:12] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:12] <ch40s> anyone here run linux MCE?
[09:12] <mkaster> it says on the config if I have a thinkpad to load the nvram linux module but I don't know how yet
[09:13] <mkaster> and to create a node
[09:13] <stdin> !nickspam > rob-`
[09:13] <luk> there's  an effect in kubuntu 7.04
[09:13] <llutz> mkaster: the nvram-module is already loaded. "ls -l /dev/nvram"
[09:13] <luk> when i press an icon
[09:13] <luk> I would want to know the name of that effect
[09:14] <luk> and if i use that on debian
[09:14] <luk> (with kde naturally)
[09:14] <rob-`> (huh .. I thought I hadn't joined this channel before changing my nick several times)
[09:14] <mkaster> crw-rw---- 1 root root 10, 144 2007-09-08 14:51 /dev/nvram   is the output of that command
[09:14] <stdin> luk: they'll probably know in #kubuntu-devel
[09:15] <llutz> mkaster: different problem but similar solution, try to follow http://blog.frith.co.za/?cat=13
[09:15] <mkaster> also another problem is I cannot standby or suspend
[09:15] <jackol> anyone tried the kde 4b2 with success (feisty)? All i got was pretty weird desktop (bottom bar had nothing) and no apps nowhere, is this how it's atm?
[09:15] <llutz> mkaster: that part with the udev-rule
[09:16] <stdin> jackol: that's the way it is
[09:17] <jackol> ok, the screenshot(or were they mockups) had more in them, so I's just wondering.
[09:17] <BluesKaj> jackol, that was prolly plasma , it seems to be the default "desktop explorer" in kde4
[09:17] <jackol> http://kde.org/announcements/announce_4.0-beta2/desktop-plasma-small.png
[09:17] <stdin> jackol: it's because the package with the launcher wasn't released with the beta
[09:18] <jackol> ok, thx
[09:18] <BluesKaj> stdin, now why would they hold back the launcher app ?
[09:19] <stdin> BluesKaj: because it's in playground
[09:19] <stdin> BluesKaj: only in svn
[09:20] <stdin> it'll eventually be merged with kdebase (i think, it may be a separate package)
[09:20] <BluesKaj> no wonder it wouldn't work on my pc :)
[09:20] <mkaster> llutz in that link it says to setup custom rules in this file: /etc/udev/rules.d/50-user-custom.rules but I do not have that file
[09:21] <BluesKaj> I still don't understand svn , is it some kind of special repos site ?
[09:21] <llutz> mkaster: create it
[09:21] <BluesKaj> !svn
[09:21] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[09:22] <RichardBH> !cvs
[09:22] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[09:22] <Angelus> BluesKaj: its live "svn co http://bla.bla.com/blabla/kvirc" it will download kvirc's source code
[09:22] <RichardBH> hi - can anyone suggest a good msn client that supports custom emoticons?
[09:23] <stdin> RichardBH: kopete
[09:23] <Angelus> usually its the developer's source
[09:23] <RichardBH> stdin: cant add my own ones though
[09:23] <mkaster> this should be one line: KERNEL=="nvram", MODE="0664"   llutz
[09:23] <Angelus> they upload there work everyday on the svn repo
[09:23] <stdin> RichardBH: why not?
[09:23] <mkaster> correct?
[09:23] <llutz> mkaster: yes
[09:23] <Biovore> Angelus: I am using kvirc svn here built for QT4
[09:23] <RichardBH> stdin: i didnt know there was a way
[09:23] <Angelus> me too Biovore
[09:23] <Angelus> :)
[09:24] <RichardBH> stdin: coudlnt find anything in the documentation
[09:25] <stdin> RichardBH: look in kopete's settings you can import them, or put them in ~/.kde/share/emoticons/
[09:25] <RichardBH> and can other people see them if i send them?
[09:25] <RichardBH> like someone on WLM
[09:26] <mkaster> I forget, how do I run commands as root?
[09:26] <stdin> RichardBH: yeah, if you give it to them
[09:26] <stdin> !sudo | mkaster
[09:26] <ubotu> mkaster: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:27] <mcquaid> I installed b2 but was left with a fairly non functional desktop.  are there some tweaks that have to be done?
[09:27] <stdin> mcquaid: no, that's what b2 is
[09:27] <shadowhywind> does anyone know  where the image files are stored for the icons that get displayed in the system panel?
[09:27] <Biovore> mcquaid: well its a developers beta.. that doesn't mean it works yet.
[09:27] <mcquaid> ok
[09:28] <stdin> shadowhywind: in /usr/share/icons
[09:28] <shadowhywind> thanks!
[09:28] <Flatfender> I have Compiz installed, but I don't have the 3D desktop or the wobbly windows or anything. Could there be something I'm missing?
[09:28] <RichardBH> stdin: any idea where in kopetes settings? :$
[09:29] <stdin> RichardBH: Appearance > Emoticons
[09:30] <RichardBH> stdin: i can see buttons for 'themes', but nothing for single emoticons/your own ones
[09:30] <stdin> RichardBH: "themes" are emoticons
[09:31] <shadowhywind> ok since i couldn't find the icon i was looking for, in the system tray, I am trying to get them to display in 2 rows, instead of just one. And i can't figure out why.. any ideas?
[09:32] <RichardBH> stdin: dont worry if you dont know/there isnt a way, but if i have a .gif animated file, do i just import it as a 'theme'? or are themes more like packages of multiple emoticons?
[09:33] <stdin> RichardBH: if you just want to add a single one, choose an already installed them and choose "Edit", then you can replace one (or add one) to use that image
[09:35] <fulat2k> hi folks, i'm using feisty and have installed kde4 beta2.  however, the entire desktop seems broken i.e. panels are empty, desktop is unusable.  is there anything i've missed?  followed the instructions in kubuntu.org
[09:35] <RichardBH> stdin: ok, thanks - now to trakc down why none of my drives are mounted...
[09:35] <sven_oostenbrink> Hi there, I am having some problem with apt-get update, and there was this very quick but complex solution for it, one of the bots could tell me with the right command.. anybody knows what I am talking about?
[09:36] <sven_oostenbrink> given error by apt-get is ""The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened
[09:36] <sven_oostenbrink> and with some one complex bash line this could be fixed IIRC
[09:36] <mkaster> in my system services it says acpid is not running ut it is supposed to run on boot
[09:36] <christoffernors> Hi. When i attach my external monitor to my laptop the image shows up fine. But when i wanna play a movie it's just a black screen in all other video players than totem. Anyone know how to solve this?
[09:36] <mkaster> may this be the reason I cannot standby or suspend?
[09:36] <llutz> mkaster: sudo modprobe ibm-acpi
[09:37] <llutz> mkaster: yes, without working acpi no suspend
[09:37] <llutz> (in many other cases: no suspend inspite of working acpi :((( )
[09:38] <RichardBH> stdin: although there doesnt seem to be an 'edit' button anywhere...
[09:38] <mkaster> it still says it isnt running
[09:38] <llutz> mkaster: sudo modprobe ibm_acpi
[09:38] <llutz> mkaster: sudo /etc/init.d/acpi start
[09:39] <stdin> RichardBH: like http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4673/image15ox7.png
[09:39] <mkaster> sudo: /etc/init.d/acpi: command not found
[09:39] <llutz> mkaster: sudo /etc/init.d/acpid start
[09:40] <llutz> mkaster: sudo /etc/init.d/acpi-support start
[09:40] <RichardBH> stdin: i have no 'edit theme' button there - is that the standard Kopete that comes with Kubuntu, or is it a newer/patched version?
[09:41] <sven_oostenbrink> Anybody on the fixing apt-get thing?
[09:41] <stdin> RichardBH: well I have version 4:3.5.7-2ubuntu1
[09:42] <stdin> !aptfix | sven_oostenbrink
[09:42] <ubotu> sven_oostenbrink: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:42] <sven_oostenbrink> stdin, That wqas the one! thanks! :)
[09:43] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: you here?
[09:43] <mkaster> it still says its not running in the system services
[09:43] <mkaster> and there are no suspend, standby or hibernate buttons
[09:45] <mkaster> when I rand the commands this is what I got llutz but it still says it isnt running in the system services
[09:45] <mkaster> masterk@theKtop:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/acpid start
[09:45] <mkaster>  * Loading ACPI modules...                                               [ ok ] 
[09:45] <mkaster>  * Starting ACPI services...                                                    masterk@theKtop:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/acpi-support start
[09:45] <mkaster>  * Checking battery state...                                             [ ok ] 
[09:45] <Kein> Alright, Edgy is up and running.
[09:45] <jhutchins> mkaster: You might consider the Advanced Power Control Interface - apci.
[09:45] <Kein> Now to learn how to update to Feisty.
[09:45] <RichardBH> stdin: ah, thats it then - i have 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9
[09:45] <llutz> jhutchins: thats what he tries
[09:45] <jhutchins> mkaster: The other one is the Advanced Programmable Interupt Controller - apic.
[09:45] <jhutchins> Spelling counts.
[09:45] <RichardBH> stdin: any idea how to get the newer one? (linux newbie :$)
[09:46] <stdin> RichardBH: comes with kde 3.5.7
[09:46] <mkaster> I need help on getting suspend and standby to work because otherwise it really isn't a laptop...
[09:47] <Kein> mkaster: there are options in Power Management, IIRC.
[09:47] <mkaster> where is the power management?
[09:48] <ian_> I'm trying to configure a keyboard layout under KDE called colemak, I had it working under gnome but there is no option for it in the keyboard layout settings
[09:48] <Kein> Not sure, actually.  Try checking the battery icon.
[09:48] <Kein> KLaptop, I thinkk.
[09:48] <Kein> *thinkk
[09:48] <Kein> ..
[09:48] <Kein> *THINK
[09:48] <ian_> where does KDE get its list of available keyboad layouts if not from the X config?
[09:49] <winbond> can i save my virtual machine, then install workstation instead of the server and just load my saved VM??  or will i have to set it up from scratch?
[10:01] <masterk> okay guys, when I clicked suspend, it suspended but I was unable to get out, so I powered off manually. Then I clicked standby and it filckered the screen for about 30 seconds then showed the desktop where it took another 30 seconds or so to let me move the mouse or preass anything then it popped up and said cpu overload...
[10:02] <masterk> can anyone help?
[10:02] <masterk> llutz are you still there? Do you have any idea?
[10:03] <llutz> masterk: thats what i meant. working acpi does not mean that suspend/resume works. i gave that thing up, long time ago
[10:03] <combinio> where are kept all binary files ??
[10:03] <masterk> Hmm...
[10:03] <masterk> SO does anyonehave a fully working Thinkpad T22?
[10:04] <llutz> masterk: in most cases it's an issue of network (wlan) or video drivers. on your t22 it sounds more like a general acpi-problem
[10:05] <masterk> yeah I fixed the other issues
[10:06] <masterk> this is the only one I haven't and I really want to be able to standby
[10:06] <masterk> it takes too long to startup
[10:07] <llutz> masterk: resuming from disk takes nearly the same time like booting fresh on my Samsung X20 with 1GB RAM
[10:07] <masterk> well I don't have the money to get a fancy new laptop :D
[10:07] <masterk> wanna buy me one?
[10:07] <masterk> just kidding
[10:07] <llutz> masterk: even a new laptop doesn't mean that suspending works
[10:08] <billytwowilly> so I've got a new hard drive and I want to format the whole thing with reiserfs. How should I go about this?
[10:08] <masterk> My old laptop which was better than this had no issues at all right from the start... I wish I still had it
[10:10] <RichardBH> i currently have KDE3.5.6, which came with kubuntu - how can i upgrade to 3.5.7, when adept is telling me kde isnt installed?
[10:10] <NickPresta> RichardBH, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[10:11] <RichardBH> NickPresta: danke
[10:11] <caris_mere> I can't get one of my partitions to show up in /media
[10:12] <coreymon77> caris_mere: WHICH ONE
[10:12] <coreymon77> caris_mere: oops
[10:12] <coreymon77> sorry, didnt know caps was on
[10:12] <combinio> where are kept all binary files ??
[10:12] <combinio> can someone tell me that ?
[10:12] <caris_mere> coreymon77: it is a FAT32 partition that I created after installation
[10:12] <coreymon77> is it mounted?
[10:12] <llutz> combinio: which binaries?
[10:12] <kaminix2> billytwowilly: mkfs.reiserfs /dev/<devicename> will make your device reiserfs...
[10:13] <coreymon77> caris_mere: is it mounted
[10:13] <combinio> llutz: ee.... binares that if u put in console eg gimp - then gimp is launching
[10:13] <combinio> i mean such binares
[10:13] <caris_mere> coreymon77: I can't tell...because in QTparted it is called sda5, but when I try to mount sda5, it says it is /
[10:14] <coreymon77> combinio: /usr/bin
[10:14] <llutz> combinio:/bin, /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin
[10:14] <coreymon77> exactly
[10:14] <coreymon77> because you are mounting sda5 to /
[10:14] <billytwowilly> kaminix2: how do I make a partition? qtparted and the kde stuff won't let me.
[10:14] <coreymon77> you have to mount it to somewhere else
[10:14] <llutz> combinio: for root additional the sbin/
[10:14] <combinio> llutz: and what is difference between /usr/local/bin and /usr/bin ? i just want to know where pu hereos3 binares files :D
[10:15] <stoffer> is there any good fw software for ubuntu?? Im looking for something that can drop incomming traffic when my services is not running but allows it when they are up...
[10:15] <llutz> combinio: its not part of distro, so put it into /usr/local
[10:15] <kaminix2> billytwowilly: fdisk is a good program imo. but first you have to umount it. sudo umount /dev/devicename
[10:15] <combinio> llutz: ok then, thanks a lot :)
[10:15] <caris_mere> coreymon77: how would I do that?
[10:15] <billytwowilly> kaminix2: it's not mounted
[10:15] <titanix88> is there any practical purpose of having so many file systems in linux except for ext2/3?can i use them normally?advantages?
[10:16] <coreymon77> caris_mere: well
[10:16] <kaminix2> billytwowilly: What error is qparted giving you?
[10:16] <billytwowilly> kaminix2: when I do a fdisk /dev/hdd I get a "Unable to read /dev/hdd"
[10:16] <coreymon77> caris_mere: first make the folder that you want to mount it to
[10:16] <caris_mere> coreymon77: did that
[10:16] <billytwowilly> kaminix2: it just doesn't let me do anything to the disk.
[10:16] <coreymon77> caris_mere: okay
[10:16] <kaminix2> billytwowilly: Are you sure you have the correct devicename?
[10:17] <coreymon77> caris_mere: then mount it to that folder
[10:17] <billytwowilly> kaminix2: fairly certain. It's the slave on the cdrom line and the cdrom is /dev/hdc
[10:17] <Schuenemann> I created a zip file in window$ and now Ark can't extract it. I suspect it's the file separator char. What can I do about it?
[10:17] <kaminix2> billytwowilly: Is it internal or external?
[10:18] <billytwowilly> Maybe the cdrom is farking it up. let me shut down and make sure it's got the right clippy thing on the right pair of metal rod thingies..
[10:18] <caris_mere> coreymon77: I did that and then checked the folder, and it looks like what one would see with /
[10:18] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, try unrar
[10:18] <kaminix2> billytwowilly: Highlight me when you get back if you still want my help. :)
[10:18] <Schuenemann> isn't unrar for rar only?
[10:18] <coreymon77> are you sure sda5 is the right drive?
[10:18] <coreymon77> caris_mere: partition*
[10:18] <BluesKaj> nope
[10:19] <billytwowilly> kaminix2: I will, thanks.
[10:19] <coreymon77> caris_mere: type mount into konsole, and put the output on pastebin
[10:19] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, KairosFuzzy-08-set.zip is not RAR archive
[10:19] <llutz> Schuenemann: unzip Kairos....
[10:20] <cje> hi, I am a volunteer supporting a public middle school in an attempt to move to FOSS on ubuntu feisty, and we are having a networking issue.  Is there anyone here who has experience with networking with legacy Windows desktops?
[10:20] <cje> actually, make that kubuntu feisty
[10:20] <Schuenemann> llutz, unzipping is the problem here
[10:20] <coreymon77> cje: networking as in?
[10:21] <titanix88> cje: congrats!
[10:21] <cje> coreymon77, we are trying to talk to a bunch of windows boxes.
[10:21] <coreymon77> cje: well, ya first thing, congrats
[10:21] <caris_mere> coreymon77: http://pastebin.com/m3697ec5
[10:21] <coreymon77> cje: secondly, that requires samba
[10:21] <cje> caris_mere, +1 , we have samba installed.
[10:22] <BluesKaj> that's odd i thought unrar could handle zipped files ...must be my old age creeping in :)
[10:22] <cje> the problem is that the legacy Windows box controlling the network gives us a new IP address every time we reboot the new kubuntu server.
[10:22] <coreymon77> cje: well then, set a static
[10:22] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, it's not winrar :-)
[10:22] <llutz> Schuenemann: error-message?
[10:23] <caris_mere> cje: I'm sorry, but I don't follow
[10:23] <coreymon77> caris_mere: well, theres the problem
[10:23] <caris_mere> coreymon77: I figured...  :-)
[10:23] <coreymon77> caris_mere: sda5 is not the fat32 partition, its your normal linux ext3 partition
[10:23] <Schuenemann> llutz, (file) appears to use backslashes as path separatorsd
[10:24] <dudeicles> good afternoon folks
[10:24] <coreymon77> caris_mere: the only two fat32 partitions that seem to be there are sda1 and sdb1
[10:24] <dudeicles> could anyone here tell me why they believe Kubuntu is better than Ubuntu?
[10:24] <cje> coreymon77, we are integrating with someone else's network, and we can't set a static IP.
[10:24] <caris_mere> coreymon77:  Yeah, I know.  It doesn't seem to recognize the other partition that I just made
[10:25] <cje> caris_mere, thanks for asking, are there any other questions that I could answer to clarify our situation?
[10:25] <coreymon77> dudeicles: easy, i just like kde better than gnome, its personal prefference
[10:25] <coreymon77> cje: so, whats the problem, you cant connect to the windows computers?
[10:25] <dudeicles> coreymon77: not really a KDE is better because... just your preference.
[10:26] <dudeicles> KDE is more like Windows than Ubunty right?
[10:26] <dudeicles> Ubuntu*
[10:26] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, have tried the unzip command in the konsole
[10:26] <BluesKaj> ?
[10:27] <dudeicles> I'm thinking about formatting another HD and installing Ubuntu on it then Kubuntu on top.
[10:27] <dudeicles> I need something closer to Windows for my wife and kids.
[10:27] <coreymon77> dudeicles: recent windows converts will be more comfortable with kde than gnome
[10:28] <dudeicles> is there a better linux build out there for Windows users?
[10:28] <coreymon77> dudeicles: i dont think so
[10:28] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, yeah, same problem
[10:28] <coreymon77> dudeicles: the point of linux is that it isnt windows
[10:28] <dudeicles> ok then it look slike Ubuntu it is.
[10:28] <coreymon77> dudeicles: its not going to be the same
[10:29] <dudeicles> well i'm using Ubuntu right now
[10:29] <dudeicles> just HD is too small
[10:29] <dudeicles> lol
[10:29] <coreymon77> dudeicles: as for it being better than ubuntu, thats just prefference as to kde or gnome
[10:29] <dudeicles> this is only  12 gig
[10:29] <ball> hi can someome talk me through getting the last part of my wifi settings sorted please?
[10:29] <ubuntu> hey
[10:29] <dudeicles> yeah I can use either
[10:30] <dudeicles> it's the family that likes the "Start" button and everything nice and easy to get to.
[10:30] <billytwowilly> kaminix2: should I stick with my old favorite reiserfs or go with something new and interesting like xfs?
[10:30] <dudeicles> which Ubuntu has, but KDE makes it much more organized I think.
[10:30] <Schuenemann> I like everything easy, that's why I use kubuntu
[10:30] <llutz> Schuenemann: hehe
[10:30] <dudeicles> Schuenemann: I agree, was just looking for others reasons why they use it over Ub
[10:30] <dudeicles> well off to format
[10:31] <coreymon77> ball: whats the last part
[10:31] <Schuenemann> :p
[10:31] <dudeicles> hey in here, did anyone find installing Ubuntu to be a long process?
[10:31] <coreymon77> nope
[10:31] <ball> i think that my gateway is wrong thats all i can think of
[10:31] <dudeicles> Last time I installed Ubuntu on this HD it took like 1 hour
[10:31] <coreymon77> 40 mins for me
[10:31] <dudeicles> stuck around 65% to 74% took forever there.
[10:31] <kaminix2> billytwowilly: That's really up to you :) Which one you like or feel is best. :)
[10:31] <dudeicles> maybe 40 was the time
[10:31] <dudeicles> coreymon77: What is your specs?
[10:32] <dudeicles> Processor and Ram
[10:32] <dudeicles> if you don't mind me asking
[10:32] <coreymon77> dudeicles: later
[10:32] <coreymon77> dudeicles: just make sure that your wife and kids know this beforehand
[10:32] <dudeicles> know what?
[10:32] <cje> coreymon77, we can ping the Windows servers, and the Windows servers can ping us, but when new IP addresses are given out, the Windows boxes can't find the new Kubuntu Feisty file server
[10:32] <coreymon77> dudeicles: linux is not windows, its linux
[10:32] <dudeicles> we've been using Ubuntu for a week now
[10:32] <dudeicles> they're ok with it.
[10:32] <coreymon77> dudeicles: okay good
[10:32] <ScorpKing> i remember
[10:32] <dudeicles> I got all their stuff to work fine on Linux
[10:33] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: you gonna be here all day?
[10:33] <coreymon77> ball: give me a sec
[10:33] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: maybe an hour or two
[10:33] <kaminix2> billytwowilly: I checked btw, if your HDD is IDE you can find out what it's called by "using sudo lshw | less", typing "/ide" and press enter. This will bring you to a list of IDE devices on your PC.
[10:33] <dudeicles> LOL I may need your help getting my dang HD's to mount again. LOL
[10:33] <ScorpKing> lol
[10:33] <dudeicles> this was a test HD to Ubuntu
[10:33] <dudeicles> now i'm going to put it on my 80 gig
[10:33] <billytwowilly> kaminix2: thanks. I think I tentatively got it now.
[10:33] <dudeicles> and wipe Windows from there
[10:33] <ScorpKing> why dont you just copy the hd
[10:34] <dudeicles> ?
[10:34] <dudeicles> tell me how and I gladly will
[10:34] <coreymon77> cje: so you are saying that the problem is you are getting new ips all the time
[10:34] <dudeicles> this HD is 12 gb the other is 80 gb
[10:34] <kaminix2> billytwowilly: Good. :) Just say the word if there's something else. :)
[10:34] <dudeicles> I'll have to make it a slave to plug it in.
[10:34] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: you don't have to do it all over. do you have two drives?
[10:34] <dudeicles> will have to hook that other one up
[10:34] <dudeicles> wish I had an external case for it.
[10:35] <dudeicles> would make life much easier.
[10:35] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: is the 80 empty?
[10:35] <dudeicles> not yet
[10:35] <dudeicles> will e though
[10:35] <dudeicles> has Windows on it.
[10:35] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: anything you want to save?
[10:35] <coreymon77> cje: and whenever you get a new ip, the windows server cant see feisty any more
[10:35] <dudeicles> nope
[10:35] <cje> coreymon77, yes
[10:35] <dudeicles> that's where these backup pains in the butts come in
[10:35] <dudeicles> they have all my backup stuff. :)
[10:36] <will_> hey Im getting a could not open cache error when trying to open the repository
[10:36] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: plug the windows one as slave and boot from the cd
[10:36] <dudeicles> k
[10:36] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: can you get online from the cd?
[10:36] <will_> should I re instal ?
[10:36] <dudeicles> should be able to.
[10:36] <coreymon77> cje: what about before the ips switch, does everything work then?
[10:36] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: i'll be here...
[10:37] <will_> E: Type 'http://www.linuxdj.com/audio/lad/' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:37] <dudeicles> leave this HD plugged in as well right now?
[10:37] <ScorpKing> yes
[10:37] <dudeicles> bbiab
[10:37] <will_> i tried enabling that in my repository before all this crap happened
[10:37] <will_> how do I disable it?
[10:37] <will_> Cause I cant get into the dialog window
[10:37] <will_> HELP PLEASE
[10:37] <ScorpKing> comment it out
[10:38] <will_> I cant get into the dialog window to do so
[10:38] <cje> no, but the ip switching is making it hard to fix samba
[10:38] <coreymon77> !patience | will_
[10:38] <ubotu> will_: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:38] <ScorpKing> will_: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:38] <will_> thanks :D
[10:39] <coreymon77> will_: if its the ip switching thats the problem, the only thing to do is to stop that
[10:39] <coreymon77> will_: do the windows comptuers switch ips aswell?
[10:39] <coreymon77> whoop
[10:39] <coreymon77> s
[10:39] <coreymon77> wrong person
[10:39] <coreymon77> cje: those questions are aimed at you
[10:39] <will_> how do I stop all this ?
[10:39] <cje> coreymon77: yes, looks like we have to find out where the dhcp server is
[10:40] <will_> Can someone remote access into my comp ?hehehe
[10:40] <deviance> !widgets
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widgets - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <will_> I can't uncomment this bad repository that I entered because The ERROR MESSAGE will boot me out of the repository
[10:41] <coreymon77> cje: first things first, stop the dhcp form switching the ips all the time
[10:41] <deviance> Whats the best program for desktop widgets?
[10:41] <christoffernors> how can i add a command to the FN+f7 command?
[10:41] <will_> Is there a cammand line I can fun that will delete the line I entered? SOme file I can edit ?
[10:41] <coreymon77> will_: just reset your sources.list
[10:41] <coreymon77> will_: replace it with a new one
[10:41] <will_> how?
[10:41] <coreymon77> !source-o-matic
[10:41] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:42] <will_> reset * from sourcelist where bad=true
[10:42] <will_> hehehe
[10:43] <coreymon77> will_: that site will genereate a working sources.list for yo
[10:43] <coreymon77> u
[10:43] <coreymon77> just delete your current one and replace it
[10:43] <will_> then I save it somewhere?
[10:44] <ScorpKing> will_: save it in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:45] <coreymon77> cje: the first thing to do is stop the ip switchings from happening, cause that seems to be the main problem
[10:45] <dmbkiwi> hi
[10:45] <ScorpKing> !hi
[10:45] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:45] <[1] ball> coreymon77 i will be back online l8tr 2nite.  got issues irl right now
[10:46] <cje> coreymon77, we have found the dhcp server, and we are closing in on the answer, or so we hope.
[10:46] <dmbkiwi> is anyone else having trouble getting a kde4 beta2 session working?
[10:46] <Dudeicles> ScorpKing Rules!
[10:46] <Dudeicles> ok i'm on liveCD
[10:46] <Dudeicles> not sure if the other HD mounted
[10:46] <Dudeicles> lol
[10:46] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: open cli
[10:46] <dmbkiwi> seems that /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde is missing
[10:47] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: the konsole
[10:47] <will_> The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/apt/sources.list.
[10:47] <will_> Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.
[10:47] <Dudeicles> errr
[10:47] <coreymon77> will_: you have to do it as root
[10:47] <Dudeicles> won't have konsole in Ubuntu
[10:47] <will_> ?
[10:47] <Dudeicles> got terminal open
[10:47] <xjkx> this rip a dvd of video on k3b is to rip to avi format?
[10:48] <will_> through the terminal window ?
[10:48] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: ls /dev/ | grep hd
[10:48] <coreymon77> will_: no
[10:48] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: do you have hda, hdb and hdc?
[10:48] <coreymon77> will_: well, you could
[10:48] <Dudeicles> pasting now
[10:49] <will_> help this windows boy out a little :D
[10:49] <Dudeicles> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36827/
[10:49] <coreymon77> will_: okay, type this
[10:49] <coreymon77> actually
[10:49] <Ubu7> hi all
[10:49] <Ubu7> I need some help for Ubuntu 7.04
[10:50] <coreymon77> will_: try opening the sources.list in kate
[10:50] <Dudeicles> ScorpKing: ?
[10:50] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: which one is the linux drive? primary master?
[10:50] <Dudeicles> should be hca
[10:50] <coreymon77> will_: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:50] <Dudeicles> I didn't change that at all
[10:50] <will_> paste that in the terminal ?
[10:50] <Dudeicles> just unplugged my 2 ntfs backups
[10:50] <Dudeicles> and plugged int the 80 gig I want to copy all to.
[10:50] <Ubu7> I'm a begginer - can't start X.....can't register entry in xauth....dunno what to do
[10:50] <christoffernors> How can i add a command to the video output switching shortcut fn+f7 ?
[10:51] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: i can't remember. lol
[10:51] <Dudeicles> hda1 should be my main drive
[10:51] <Dudeicles> the others were hdb1 and hdc1
[10:51] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: lol
[10:52] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: then hda will be linux
[10:52] <will_> IT WORKED !
[10:52] <will_> Thanks kUbuntu room !
[10:52] <Dudeicles> righto
[10:52] <Dudeicles> so I need to copy hda1 to hdb1
[10:52] <will_> Now I can dl some pr0n !
[10:52] <Dudeicles> right?
[10:52] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: sudo dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb
[10:52] <Dudeicles> pr0n rocks
[10:53] <ali4728> Help, Tired of dool boot and I was wondering if it would be possible to run Ubuntu and $M from external eSATA (enclosure) HDD? So I can switch the power button and start thew OS that I want. Comments appriciated..
[10:53] <will_> binary pr0n :D 0101010001010101
[10:53] <xjkx> anyone ever used this rip video dvds of k3b?
[10:53] <Dudeicles> ScorpKing: if this don't work i'll have to go through all again right?
[10:53] <will_> I got another question
[10:53] <Dudeicles> LOL
[10:53] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: yes but it will work. :)
[10:53] <will_> I'm trying to get some third party software going on in the repos, I remember way back someone showed me how to do it but I cant get it to work
[10:53] <dmbkiwi> is anyone else having trouble getting a kde4 beta2 session working?
[10:53] <will_> I want to download AUDACITY
[10:53] <dmbkiwi> seems that /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde is missing
[10:53] <cje> coreymon77, now the weird thing is that we seem to be getting a new MAC address every time we reboot the kubuntu feisty ASUS V2 box.
[10:53] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: i use it a lot.
[10:54] <Dudeicles> ScorpKing: working now
[10:54] <Dudeicles> takes a while I assume?
[10:54] <seanpcrowe> hey peeps...
[10:54] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: yes
[10:54] <seanpcrowe> n00b question
[10:54] <Dudeicles> damnit
[10:54] <Dudeicles> you know what I wanted to do
[10:54] <coreymon77> cje: that causing the same problem?
[10:54] <seanpcrowe> can i change the size of the desktop icons??
[10:54] <Dudeicles> I wanted to format the HD first
[10:54] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: no need
[10:54] <Dudeicles> k
[10:54] <Dudeicles> how long will it take?
[10:55] <Dudeicles> I have no patience dangit. LOL
[10:55] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: maybe one hour
[10:55] <ScorpKing> lol
[10:55] <Dudeicles> ScorpKing: AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
[10:55] <will_> quick n00b question. I dled firefox, but it doesnt show in the internet tab on kubuntu.
[10:55] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: after that put the new drive on primary master
[10:55] <Dudeicles> it will tell me when it's done?
[10:56] <will_> How do I launch firefox and check my email in peace?
[10:56] <Dudeicles> right now it's not showing anything in Terminal
[10:56] <will_> and how do I get flux box?
[10:56] <Dudeicles> the box just went to the next line. that's all
[10:56] <Dudeicles> lol
[10:56] <dmbkiwi> will_: install it using the package manager
[10:56] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: you might not be able to boot from it so just boot from the cd and i'll help you to get it back.
[10:56] <Sanne> will_: you can enable additional ubuntu repositories (universe, multiverse) and should find audacity and firefox in there. Please read what the bot ubotu sends you for software management:...
[10:56] <Sanne> !repos | will_
[10:56] <ubotu> will_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:57] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: so it's back at the prompt?
[10:57] <dmbkiwi> will_: it's in the kmenu under System -> Adept Manager
[10:57] <Dudeicles> box below the prompt
[10:57] <Dudeicles> how can I tell
[10:57] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: as soon as you can type another command it's done.
[10:58] <Dudeicles> I typed exit and it did nothing
[10:58] <ScorpKing> then its busy
[10:58] <Dudeicles> help it did nothing
[10:58] <Dudeicles> k
[10:58] <Dudeicles> my HDD light is going like crazy
[10:58] <Sanne> will_: if you want to search which packages are available in ubuntu, you can do so at packages.ubuntu.com. But don't download from there, install them using the package mananger.
[10:58] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: it will. reading nonstop.
[10:59] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: when the light stops it's done. lol
[10:59] <coreymon77> cje: is that causing the same problem? or is it better now
[11:00] <Dudeicles> ScorpKing: So hows the weather wherever you are?
[11:00] <cje> we are now having the problem that the MAC address appears to be changing.  But we are going to assign an IP address below 100 and see if that helps.
[11:00] <Dudeicles> blue skies here in California
[11:01] <deviance> Anyone know how I can have it so that Kwallet doesnt need to ask me for a password when I start Kopete
[11:01] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:01] <Dudeicles> ScorpKing: got ya sorry
[11:01] <deviance> ANd yesterday I ln -s linked a program into auto start but I dont want it there, how can I remove it
[11:01] <deviance> ?
[11:03] <deviance> ScorpKing: How do you unlink a program from .kde/autostart?
[11:03] <ScorpKing> remove the link with rm
[11:04] <deviance> So rm ln aMSN?
[11:04] <deviance> Ah got it
[11:05] <ScorpKing> rm .kde/autostart/linkdff
[11:07] <mauri> someone can elp me with my webcam
[11:07] <dmbkiwi> is anyone else having trouble getting a kde4 beta2 session working?
[11:07] <dmbkiwi> seems that /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde is missing
[11:09] <will_> Firefox installed successfully , how do I use it? Where is the shortcut on my desktop ?
[11:10] <rdvon> I cant get bitpim working under kubuntu with my razr v3m
[11:11] <will_> how do I get firefox going?
[11:11] <will_> is it a command line?
[11:11] <rdvon> install in the repos.
[11:11] <will_> i have it installed
[11:11] <rdvon> than press alt f2 than type firefox.
[11:11] <will_> is there a way to make a shortcut of it?
[11:11] <christoffer> Hi just did something stupid.. INstalled tdb and the osd that appeared before when changing volume with keyboard shortcuts is no longer there.. Uninstalled tpd but still no osd... What do i do?
[11:12] <rdvon> will_ right click the desktop
[11:12] <rdvon> create new
[11:12] <rdvon> than link to application.
[11:12] <rdvon> than go to the app tab
[11:12] <rdvon> and where it says command type firefox.
[11:13] <rdvon> does anyone know why bitpim isnt working?
[11:13] <coreymon77> cje: sorry about not answering immidiately, i am working on something else and sometimes forget to check my irc client every now and then
[11:14] <christoffer> anyone???
[11:14] <rdvon> christoffer: no idea.
[11:14] <christoffer> :\
[11:14] <rdvon> is that how you spell christoffer though? I was sure it was christopher..
[11:14] <coreymon77> cje: if its ip and mac address problems that you are having, my best suggestion would be to set a static
[11:15] <coreymon77> cje: it may just be something you have to do
[11:15] <christoffer> deppends of your origin
[11:15] <christoffer> * on
[11:15] <coreymon77> cje: and it shouldnt be that much of a problem if the computer is a desktop, which i am assuming it is (correct me if im wron)
[11:15] <cje> coreymon77, we are in the process of trying to set up a static.  We are also suspecting a weirdo on-board NIC, and we are going to swap that out.
[11:16] <coreymon77> cje: is it a desktop?
[11:16] <rdvon> oh really? I dont think I've ever seen it spelled like that, very interesting...
[11:16] <cje> coreymon77, yes, it is a desktop.
[11:16] <coreymon77> cje: well then setting a static shoulnt be a problem, its for laptops that its an issue
[11:16] <cje> coreymon77, the model is V2-P5945G
[11:16] <cje> desktop.
[11:17] <christoffernors> #ubuntu
[11:20] <terrestre> !es
[11:20] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:20] <Dudeicles> ScorpKing: Are you there?
[11:20] <Dudeicles> :P
[11:20] <terrestre> toto?
[11:20] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: yes
[11:21] <terrestre> binaltech: hola
[11:21] <Dudeicles> cool
[11:21] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: shut down and take out the old drive.
[11:21] <Dudeicles> so should I just shut down make that other HD the master and run it?
[11:21] <mkaltz> does anyone have insight into installing the snapapi module required by true image server in ubunty feisty
[11:21] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: set the new one master and try to boot.
[11:21] <Dudeicles> lol good idea buddy
[11:22] <Dudeicles> will get back on here and chat with you after if it works
[11:22] <ScorpKing> see you soon
[11:22] <cje> coreymon77, we are just now pulling a NIC out of another machine.
[11:22] <Dudeicles> hasta
[11:22] <ScorpKing> i'll be here. we're not done
[11:24] <terrestre> binaltech: hello
[11:25] <binaltech> algo :)
[11:25] <terrestre> !kde
[11:25] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[11:25] <terrestre> !es
[11:25] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:25] <terrestre> !es > binaltech
[11:25] <binaltech> a que wena
[11:25] <terrestre> !es >> binaltech
[11:26] <terrestre> !es | binaltech
[11:26] <ubotu> binaltech: please see above
[11:26] <mauri> someone can elp me with my webcam
[11:26] <binaltech> !tux
[11:26] <ubotu> tux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/
[11:26] <christoffernors> I have a clean installed ubuntu on my IBM THINKPAD T42. For some reason i lost the OSD's when changing volume, lcd brightness and so on.. How to get it back?
[11:28] <coreymon77> mauri: what webcam?
[11:29] <BluesKaj> will_, did you update your sources.list ?
[11:29] <mauri> coreymon77: http://www.emtec-international.com/en/produit.php?categorie=AVNOM&gamme=AV%20WEBCAMS&ss_gamme=W300
[11:31] <christoffernors> THIS SUCKS!!!
[11:32] <mauri> coreymon77: have you received the model
[11:32] <coreymon77> i saw
[11:32] <coreymon77> give me a sec
[11:32] <spiroo> How do I mount .img and other images like I did in Daemon tools in WIndows? I do not find support for it anywhere, not even in K3B.
[11:33] <Kein> How weird... the autoupdater isn't working. =/
[11:34] <anna> hi
[11:34] <anna> what's the german channel?
[11:34] <SlimeyPete> !german
[11:34] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:34] <anna> thanks
[11:34] <SlimeyPete> :)
[11:35] <spiroo> does anybody know how to burn or mount .img in linux/kubuntu. I wanna watch my movies.
[11:35] <stdin> spiroo: depends what filesystem is in the file
[11:36] <spiroo> I do not know, how to check then?
[11:36] <coreymon77> spiroo: k3b can definitely burn .imgs, cant it?
[11:36] <coreymon77> mauri: how does your webcam connect? i take it its usb right?
[11:37] <stdin> spiroo: "file filename.img" in konsole
[11:37] <mauri> coreymon77: yes but the device /dev/video is not created
[11:37] <Dudeicles> ScorpKing: Didn't work
[11:37] <Dudeicles> get a GRUB error 2
[11:38] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: you're on the cd?
[11:38] <Dudeicles> yes
[11:38] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: ls /dev/ | grep hd
[11:39] <Dudeicles> hda
[11:39] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: you have hda?
[11:39] <Dudeicles> yeah
[11:39] <ScorpKing> lol
[11:39] <Dudeicles> I think that's the HD we just cpied stuff to
[11:40] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: what program do you use for irc?
[11:40] <Dudeicles> was gonna xchat
[11:40] <Dudeicles> whoops
[11:40] <Dudeicles> xchat
[11:40] <terrestre> !aptitude | binaltech
[11:40] <ubotu> binaltech: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[11:41] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: does it show tabs with the channel names on the side?
[11:41] <Dudeicles> yeah
[11:41] <mauri> coreymon77: are you still there?
[11:41] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: there is ine with your name
[11:41] <ScorpKing> one
[11:41] <coreymon77> mauri: ya, sorry
[11:41] <Dudeicles> no
[11:41] <Dudeicles> Ubuntu Server
[11:41] <Dudeicles> #kubuntu
[11:41] <Dudeicles> and
[11:41] <Dudeicles> ScorpKing:
[11:41] <coreymon77> mauri: type lsusb into konsole and put the output on pastebin
[11:42] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: click on my name
[11:42] <coreymon77> make sure the webcam is plugged in when you do lsusb though
[11:42] <Dudeicles> wait
[11:42] <Dudeicles> not registered
[11:42] <ScorpKing> thsi channel makes my client slow
[11:42] <ScorpKing> :(
[11:43] <mauri> coreymon77: of course it's plugged
[11:43] <coreymon77> mauri: then put the output of lsusb on pastebin
[11:44] <mauri> coreymon77: please give me the link...i forgot it
[11:44] <spiroo> Is there not any support to just open .img images or other in Kaffeine or Amarok?
[11:45] <coreymon77> !pastebin
[11:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:46] <stdin> spiroo: do "file filename.img" in konsole
[11:46] <spiroo> I have
[11:46] <stdin> spiroo: and the output??
[11:46] <spiroo> UDF v1.5
[11:46] <SlimeyPete> .img is a proprietary format iirc
[11:47] <mauri> coreymon77: http://pastebin.com/d39c6241c
[11:47] <stdin> spiroo: then "sudo mount filename.img /somewhere -t udf -o loop,uid=$(id -u)" should do it
[11:48] <spiroo> lol, is there not any app to do this? I could do it manually, but I do not wanna do this every single time.
[11:48] <mauri> coreymon77: did you see it
[11:49] <spiroo> like deamon tools I just want
[11:49] <coreymon77> mauri: yam i see it
[11:49] <coreymon77> mauri: to tell you the truth, i dont know
[11:50] <mauri> coreymon77: why yuo don't....which is the problem
[11:50] <coreymon77> mauri: your webcam is from a slightly obscure company, so there is nothing that i can find that can help
[11:50] <spiroo> stdin or someone: any application for mounting dvd images?
[11:50] <coreymon77> mauri: i was hoping lsusb would give me a hint, but it didnt
[11:51] <coreymon77> spiroo: google is your friend
[11:51] <coreymon77> mauri: sorry
[11:51] <coreymon77> cje: any updates?
[11:51] <spiroo> coreymon77: not always
[11:51] <mauri> coreymon77: do you think that i have to buy another one and it will works
[11:51] <BluesKaj> spiroo, have you tried kiso ?
[11:53] <stdin> spiroo: if you changing the extension to iso  and using http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/MountFile?content=61955
[11:53] <spiroo> kiso?
[11:54] <Dave132> how soon is the next version of ubuntu coming out?
[11:54] <stdin> !gutsy | Dave132
[11:54] <ubotu> Dave132: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[11:54] <Dave132> thnaks
[11:54] <Dave132> thanks
[11:55] <spiroo> 18 october
[11:55] <Dave132> cool
[11:56] <stdin> probably the 18th, but no guarantees on that
[11:56] <Dave132> ok,thanks
[11:56] <Dave132> not in a rush, just curious
[11:57] <spiroo> yeah :)
[11:59] <flatulent> which kernel does gutsy use?
[11:59] <Biovore> 2.6.22-10 is the current
[11:59] <winbond> is kubuntu looks team a 1 man team?
[12:00] <NickPresta> winbond, there are many people that contribute to Kubuntu in one way or another. I'm sure there is a fairly large (yet still) incomplete list of credits somewhere.
[12:00] <will_> quick question
[12:01] <will_> I have an audiophile 2496
[12:01] <will_> it supports linux
[12:01] <will_> How do I download their drivers? Its not like an exe that I double clikc on or anything right ?
[12:02] <spiroo> nope 2.6.22-11 is current one
[12:02] <msoini> will_, "You'll want to use the envy24control mixer program from the alsa-tools package."
[12:02] <spiroo> Is there any dvd playback application to play iso-images?
[12:02] <msoini> ah should read before i copy-paste :-P
[12:03] <GoodHabit> Hello. I am searching sniffer for KDE. Can smb tell me?
[12:03] <stdin> spiroo: most will
[12:03] <winbond> NickPresta, just wondering what they do, couse the kubuntu look and feel is pretty bad
[12:04] <NickPresta> winbond, I'm sorry you feel that way. What exactly feels bad about it?
[12:04] <spiroo> stdin: does not for instance work in kaffeine
[12:05] <mauri> someone can elp me with my webcam
[12:05] <winbond> NickPresta, it feels like im back to using windows 95
[12:05] <Dave132> winbond, you a vista fan?
[12:06] <winbond> Dave132, no
[12:06] <NickPresta> winbond, did you make any effort to customize the system to your liking? I would say that you didn't try hard enough to make it feel the way you want...
[12:06] <Dave132> lol
[12:06] <NickPresta> !ask | mauri
[12:06] <ubotu> mauri: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:06] <Black_Monkey> the announcement for beta 2 still says "Packages for 7.04 are currently being compiled" - so it's still not ready yet? :/
[12:06] <msoini> will_, have you looked at http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=support.drivers&f=422
[12:07] <terrestre> !amsn
[12:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:07] <terrestre> !webcam
[12:07] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:07] <mauri> NickPresta: i've installe gspca drivers but /dev/vido is not created
[12:07] <winbond> NickPresta, im sure there are a lot of things to customize , i just dont have the skill to do it
[12:07] <NickPresta> winbond, customizing KDE is point-and-click affair. You don't need anything special to do it. A bit of patience and you're good to go.
[12:08] <will_> alsa tools eh
[12:08] <Black_Monkey> so any news on the status of beta 2 for feisty?
[12:09] <mauri> NickPresta: are you still there
[12:09] <msoini> will_, this also looks like it could be of interest: http://www-old.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Midiman%2FMAudio&card=Delta+Audiophile+2496.&chip=ICE1712+(Envy24)&module=ice1712
[12:10] <NickPresta> mauri, I can't help you in regards to your webcam. Someone else in the channel might be able to assist you.
[12:10] <will_> thanks meng!
[12:11] <mauri> NickPresta: you know know the model, why yuo say that are not able to help me
[12:12] <will_> you guys know how I would switch over to fluxbox?
[12:12] <winbond> mauri, whats the model of ur cam
[12:12] <stdin> spiroo: it does, just open a url like dvd:///home/spiroo/file.iso
[12:13] <mauri> winbond: http://www.emtec-international.com/en/produit.php?categorie=AVNOM&gamme=AV%20WEBCAMS&ss_gamme=W300
[12:13] <spiroo> stdin: In konqueror?
[12:13] <stdin> spiroo: in kaffeine
[12:14] <spiroo> hmm okay, where?
[12:14] <spiroo> where in kaffeine
[12:14] <stdin> spiroo: File > Open URL
[12:15] <mauri> winbond: have you received the link?
[12:16] <winbond> mauri, yeah im trying to see if the chipset is listed
[12:17] <spiroo> stdin: Thanks, it worked, but is there not any easier way?
[12:17] <mauri> winbond: lsusb= Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.
[12:18] <stdin> spiroo: make a service menu if you want
[12:19] <spiroo> Unfortunately I have not time
[12:20] <spiroo> Sometimes I just wonder why some apps only is in windows like daemon-tools, norton ghost and damn nfo viewer
[12:23] <mauri> winbond: are you there
[12:24] <winbond> mauri, yeah, hold on , im looking it up
[12:24] <Dave132> how do I turn off the entry and exit notifications in konversation?
[12:25] <cje> coreymon77: Thanks for your help, we got it all working. Swapping in a new NIC and fixing the IP address made things much easier.
[12:27] <winbond> mauri, i think u are out of luck, there is not one z-star webcam that has a linux driver
[12:27] <coreymon77> cje: no problem
[12:27] <stdin> Dave132: settings > configure konversation > behaviour > chat window and check the "Hide Join/Part/Nick Events"
[12:28] <Dudeicles> ScorpKing: ?
[12:28] <winbond> check it out, this guy writs like the most webcam linux drivers, http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html
[12:28] <Dave132> sdin,thanks
[12:28] <winbond> mauri, check it out, this guy writs like the most webcam linux drivers, http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html
[12:28] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: yes
[12:28] <Dave132> stdin,thanks
[12:28] <Dudeicles> i msg'd you
[12:28] <Dudeicles> oh wai
[12:28] <christoffernors> If i by mistake have installed some additional package that controls the thinkpad key bindings, how do i make gnome the default controller again? So that gnome have control over these keys again?
[12:28] <Dudeicles> wait even
[12:28] <terrestre> mauri: do you use amsn?
[12:28] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: i'm here
[12:29] <stdin> winbond: that driver's in ubuntu, it's called "gspca"
[12:29] <davidubi> good evening
[12:29] <davidubi> to everyone in the channel
[12:30] <mauri> terrestre:  yes....amsn does not recognized any video device
[12:30] <emilsedgh> Kopete has good webcam handling, AFAIK
[12:30] <davidubi> need some help to get KDE4 beta to run in kubuntu feisty. followed the instructions in the website but I dont see the "KDE4" entry in kdm
[12:31] <davidubi> i got it to run with beta1 but i cannot do it with beta2
[12:31] <stdin> davidubi: you have to add it
[12:32] <davidubi> stdin: please tell me how to do it?
[12:32] <winbond> stdin, im just saying that it looks like his camera doesnt have linux drivers
[12:32] <cje> gotta go.  Thanks to everyone who helped.
[12:32] <stdin> davidubi: the instructions are on the kubuntu website: "To run it as a full session copy /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop to /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop, edit the Name entry in kde4.desktop to be called "KDE 4", put the four export lines at the top of /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde and start a new session in KDM with KDE 4."
[12:33] <davidubi> i followed exactly the instructions in the site
[12:33] <stdin> winbond: but that driver supports most "generic" ones
[12:33] <mauri> terrestre:  may you halp me?
[12:33] <vlt> Hello. Any idea why my Ubuntu boots to runlevel UNKNOWN oly and I have to run `telinit 3` (sic) first?
[12:33] <vlt> only*
[12:34] <stdin> vlt: do you have an /etc/inittab ?
[12:34] <stdin> davidubi: have you copied the file to where it said and edited it?
[12:34] <vlt> stdin: No, this is Feisty
[12:34] <davidubi> stdin: YES: the instructions on the site worked for me when tried KDE4 beta1, but with KDE4 beta 2 they don't
[12:35] <stdin> davidubi: and did you install kdebase-workspace ?
[12:35] <davidubi> YES, and since kdebase-workspace had a conflict with a package installed by the beta 1, I did a clean install of feisty
[12:36] <davidubi> and then I installed kdebase-workspace
[12:36] <stdin> vlt: ok, post the /etc/event.d/rc-default to pastebin
[12:36] <winbond> stdin, yeah, but his cam is made by z-star, which , from what im seeing , is not supported by that driver , there was development going on for it , but its dead
[12:36] <stdin> davidubi: so do you have both kde4base and kdebase-workspace installed ?
[12:37] <davidubi> stdin: NOPE, just kdebase-workspace
[12:37] <stdin> davidubi: that's your problem then
[12:37] <davidubi> ok
[12:37] <vlt> stdin: The significant part is "else telinit 2"
[12:38] <vlt> stdin: and maybe "start on stopped rcS" before