[02:32] <ricky_ds_> Hi I installed tribe 5 of kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon and had some network problems after startup. got them fixed with ifdown eth0; ifup eth0. Is this a known problem?
[02:37] <pwnguin> w00t
[02:37] <pwnguin> i got my fingerprint reader working
[02:39] <jscinoz> hey guys, i just compiled an alsa-modules package from alsa-source but cant install it, it says "dependancy not satisfiable modutils" any ideas?
[02:44] <jscinoz> should i have an /etc/asound.conf because i dont
[02:47] <hydrogen> not necessarily
[02:56] <jscinoz> hmm
[02:56] <jscinoz> im still getting unkown symbol when loading snd-hda-intel
[02:56] <jscinoz> i thought that was fixed in tribe6
[02:57] <jscinoz> any ideas?
[03:02] <jscinoz> god damnit.
[03:02] <jscinoz> even compiling alsa-drivers from the mercurial source still gives unkown symbol
[03:18] <randy026> Can someone help me? When I play fullscreen OpenGL games I just see a blackscreen.. I can hear the sound
[03:27] <spark-s> Hello, everyone. I upgrade Feisty to Gusty, then my firefox has some problem . when I add a bookmark, it will pop a message box, but it has no response. who know why? when I download something will cause this problem too. the message box problem only caused in firefox
[03:34] <hansin> Anyone seen this on Gutsy: I think there is an issue with Gutsy where you can not get kernel messages via the frambuffer (VGA=7XX) during boot.  I swear I have gotten rid of quiet and silent, and I have done this many times before.  I think I also had seen this on another Ubuntu channel where someone had the same issue with Gutsy.  Maybe I'll go ask on ubuntu+1 and see if anyone knows anything...
[03:36] <hansin> I do what I normally do in GRUB, and I can't get Gutsy to display kernel messages through the frambuffer at boot time.
[03:51] <sam1338> can anybody please help me repartition my hdd without breaking my ubuntu installation?
[03:53] <sam1338> its quiet here
[03:53] <Toma-> a little... too quiet
[03:54] <Toma-> nawwww :(
[04:05] <Ryo> Reporting in with a small upgrading error- the latest upgrade requires you to use ubuntu-deskop, So if you happen to be using ubuntustudio-desktop, you can't upgrade.
[04:06] <Ryo> Just something I thought should be known.
[04:09] <gershon> hello, would like to know the proper way to install nvidia or _new
[04:09] <gershon> would preper console instructions...
[04:09] <Ryo> use synaptic, then after that, go into screens and graphics
[04:09] <Ryo> it can be done entirely in GUI, provided you use gutsy.
[04:09] <gershon> ^
[04:10] <Ryo> console instructions would be to use apt-get to download it
[04:10] <gershon> yeah, on gutsy but my whole bootup gone mad, im unknown runlevel
[04:10] <Ryo> then patch xorg.conf using sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:10] <Ryo> and change "device" to "nv"
[04:10] <gershon> for which? "nvidia_new"
[04:11] <gershon> modprobe checks outs for all, even with the nvidiafb
[04:11] <Ryo> yes, but what about your xorg?
[04:11] <Ryo> what's the device listed as?
[04:12] <Ryo> type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:12] <gershon> for a really strange reason, what ever i do the gui falls back to "screen a graphics" but the server is XGL ?!
[04:12] <Ryo> Screens and Graphics is completely different from XGL.
[04:13] <Ryo> XGL is a 3d Accelerator.  Screens and graphics is a driver manager.
[04:13] <gershon> usually, when i had driver problems i would fall back to console dialog listing the xorg.0.log
[04:14] <gershon> now, i get a xgl server on top of vesafb ( if im not mistaken ) with the "Screen and graphics" dialog asking me to configure my xorg
[04:14] <Ryo> well there's an easy way to fix that by going to "factory default" drivers using dpkg.  Let me get you the command.
[04:15] <gershon> -reconfigure?
[04:15] <gershon> xserver-xorg
[04:15] <Ryo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:15] <gershon> been there.
[04:15] <Ryo> no changes?
[04:15] <gershon> im gutsy for a reason you know...
[04:15] <gershon> :)
[04:16] <Ryo> What nVidea card are you running?
[04:16] <gershon>  lspci | grep nV
[04:16] <gershon> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200 LE]  (rev a1)
[04:16] <gershon> gotta love gpm
[04:16] <Ryo> yeah
[04:17] <gershon> gmp
[04:17] <Ryo> I think nvidea_new might be too new for your card.  I'm stuck with ATI's shit though, so I dont' know the details of this.
[04:17] <gershon> and u latest beta?
[04:18] <gershon> like nvidia's binaries?
[04:18] <gershon> allways like 3 versions ahead
[04:18] <Ryo> I'm running gutsy, yeah.  I don't know, I'm stuck with ATI.  I wish I ran nVidia *sigh*
[04:19] <Ryo> if all else fails, you could always make a last resort and go to vesa.
[04:19] <gershon> hehe
[04:20] <Artimus> Ryo: New drivers should be coming from AMD, they sound promising.
[04:20] <Ryo> Artimus:  Not for me.  Stuck with a 9200, but fortunately that allows me the privalege of open source drivers.
[04:22] <Artimus> Ryo: I've got a GeForce FX5200.  Probably not much better than your card
[04:22] <Ryo> Artiman, yeah, but the drivers make a big difference.  Lately I'm gunning to get a 6800 at least.
[04:24] <gershon> man i miss beryl and all my bling...
[04:26] <Artimus> Ryo: I'm hoping that by the time I build my next box, there will be decent open source drivers available.
[04:33] <DanaG> Argh, popup menus don't do anything if hit with the left button.
[04:33] <DanaG> Try it in something like the "input method" option of Pidgin -- you'll likely see that left-click doesn't register as choosing an item.
[04:45] <Sonicadvance1> a question
[04:46] <Sonicadvance1> I have two partitions on my drive Partition 1 is just for the Ubuntu install and Partition 2 is for the home directory. now, If I already have my username in the home directory "sonicadvance" and I go to install it and make the user "sonicadvance" in the installer, does it overwrite my settings?
[04:49] <spowers> so the best way to test gutsy is to use the daily snapshots on cdimage.u.com?
[04:54] <xtknight> anyone else having trouble with their network connection dropping off and on?  (may be my sky2 drivers but i want to make sure it's not a generic issue)
[04:54] <Pici> No issue here.
[05:02] <Hitiek> back at the end of July, I installed Tribe 3 on my laptop because sound didn't work in Feisty. The sound worked in Tribe 3.
[05:02] <Hitiek> somewhere along the way of all the updates, my sound stopped working again
[05:04] <Hitiek> what would be the proper way to report this, I would like very much to help make sure that my sound works in the released version
[05:05] <Hitiek> I was hoping to install a fresh Tribe 6, but it looks like there won't be one for me to install.
[05:17] <Xero> Tribe 6 is a milestone but not a release. We're currently at Tribe 6.
[05:18] <Xero> !tribe6
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tribe6 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <Xero> Stupid bot.
[05:25] <cari> Hi there, I've been directed here from the good folks at the #ubuntu channel.
[05:26] <cari> According to nickrud who was attempting to assist. "<nickrud> cari: that is not good, the kernel doesn't even see your cd drive. And I am no kernel guru."
[05:36] <{{Booh}}> Hi, I just bought a new laptop with vista premium preload.  I would like to reduce the partition and install gutsy. Is it possible to install gutsy directly?  I should reduce the partition before with a livecd?
[05:38] <cari> {{Booh}}: I think they be asleep here.
[05:38] <cari> I asked a question about 12 minutes ago, and yours is the first text message here that isn't a join/part
[06:09] <Jeanpaul145> hi everybody
[06:09] <Jeanpaul145> I've got a bit of an audio problem
[06:10] <Jeanpaul145> also posted it on the forum
[06:10] <Jeanpaul145> can anybody help me out?
[06:10] <Jeanpaul145> link to the problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=545318&highlight=1.0.15rc1
[06:25] <Jeanpaul145> hi, can anybody active help me with snd-hda-intel audio problem?
[06:26] <stdin> have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[06:28] <Jeanpaul145> I did
[06:29] <Jeanpaul145> used it
[06:29] <Jeanpaul145> still no sound
[06:29] <Jeanpaul145> link to my forum thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=545318&highlight=1.0.15rc1
[06:32] <tehk> Anyone here using a macbook(c2d) with madwifi and getting dhcp issues when trying to connect to a wireless point.
[06:37] <Jeanpaul145> but ty anyway
[06:37] <Jeanpaul145> bye
[08:02] <pwnguin> uh
[08:03] <pwnguin> so i rebooted into feisty, and upgrade manager says "new distribution 7.10 is available"
[08:03] <Jordan_U> pwnguin, Hopefully only when running it with -d ?
[08:06] <pwnguin> Jordan_U: nope
[08:07] <Jordan_U> pwnguin, How did you run it?
[08:07] <pwnguin> just double clicked on the orange icon
[08:07] <Jordan_U> pwnguin, That is verry bad
[08:07] <Jordan_U> pwnguin, Is this a relatively vanilla install?
[08:07] <pwnguin> heh
[08:08] <pwnguin> id say no
[08:08] <pwnguin> ive got a shared /home partition between a gutsy and a feisty install
[08:08] <Jordan_U> pwnguin, Please file a bug report anyway, and whatever you do don't let it upgrade
[08:09] <pwnguin> if i can't reproduce it?
[08:09] <Jordan_U> pwnguin, Ahh, maybe not so strange then
[08:09] <pwnguin> what would be stored in /home that matters?
[08:10] <Jordan_U> pwnguin, Well update-manager doesn't run as root until you actually decide to upgrade anything
[08:11] <pwnguin> and?
[08:12] <pwnguin> look at .update-manager-core/metarelease
[08:12] <pwnguin> Supported: 0
[08:12] <Jordan_U> pwnguin, That means that it is possible that some configuration files are stored in your home folder, non the less it should not happen, and is either a serious bug, or a serious bug AND a serious security problem
[08:14] <Jordan_U> pwnguin, Please file a bug, and if you don't know if it is reproducible it may be better not to close update-manager if it isn't too much of a hastle
[08:15] <ant1> tsy, when I set vga=0x314 (ie. 800x600 resolution), I cannot access the virtual console, all I see when switching to virtual console is some messy colors, I am using a 15.4" laptop, anyone knows about this problem ? and how to solve it ?
[08:15] <ant1> Hello, I got a problem with gutsy, when I set vga=0x314 (ie. 800x600 resolution), I cannot access the virtual console, all I see when switching to virtual console is some messy colors, I am using a 15.4" laptop, anyone knows about this problem ? and how to solve it ?
[08:15] <koshaboi> Does anyone know when Tribe6 will be released?
[08:15] <koshaboi> I know the release date is September 6th
[08:15] <Jordan_U> koshaboi, It is not going to be a "release"
[08:15] <ant1> and this problem did not happen since I first used Ubuntu (Breezy version)
[08:16] <koshaboi> Jordan_U, just an apt update?
[08:16] <koshaboi> So the daily would essentially have all of the Tribe6 fixes incorporated?
[08:16] <Jordan_U> ant1, Have you tried disabling boot splash?
[08:16] <koshaboi> I had Tribe5 installed but my Intel8200 sound didn't work
[08:17] <ant1> Jordan_U: nope
[08:17] <Jordan_U> ant1, Do you know how?
[08:17] <pwnguin> Jordan_U: all i can find in home is metarelease =/
[08:17] <pwnguin> lemme reboot back into feisty again and see if i can duplicate it
[08:17] <pwnguin> far too late for that
[08:17] <pwnguin> but it is reproducible
[08:17] <kousotu> what;s wrong with this: sudo apt-get install libgtk-1.2
[08:17] <pwnguin> kousotu: afaik, tribes are just images of the current gutsy
[08:18] <ant1> Jordan_U: yeah, in grub menu I remove splash boot option
[08:18] <kousotu> ????
[08:18] <Jordan_U> koshaboi, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-September/000337.html
[08:18] <ant1> Jordan_U: should I try that ?
[08:18] <Jordan_U> ant1, Yes
[08:19] <ant1> k
[08:19] <kousotu> what;s wrong with this: sudo apt-get install libgtk-1.2
[08:19] <kousotu> I eed libgtk1.2 for aim
[08:21] <kousotu> nvm got it
[08:22] <ant1> Jordan_U: same thing
[08:22] <ant1> Jordan_U: when I removed splash, screen was blank untill X started
[08:22] <ant1> when I switch from X to virtual console, still I see just some mess
[08:24] <ant1> Jordan_U: Hello ?
[08:24] <Tsukasa> hey guys
[08:24] <Tsukasa> is it possible to do an upgrade install
[08:25] <Tsukasa> if so how
[08:25] <Jordan_U> ant1, I don't know what the problem is then
[08:25] <Jordan_U> Tsukasa, Read the release notes
[08:26] <Jordan_U> Tsukasa, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/tribe5
[08:27] <Tsukasa> Jordan_U, that upgrade manager command
[08:27] <Tsukasa> is run from in hd os
[08:27] <Tsukasa> or livecd
[08:28] <Jordan_U> Tsukasa, Are you prepared for the ( likely ) possibility that your install will be completely broken after upgrading?
[08:28] <kousotu> how would I go about adding AIM to my synaptic list?
[08:29] <Jordan_U> kousotu, What do you mean?
[08:29] <Tsukasa> Jordan_U, how likely is likely
[08:29] <Jordan_U> Tsukasa, I don't know exactly, but from the questions you are asking I don't think you should be using Gutsy
[08:29] <kousotu> I mean aim.com aim
[08:30] <Tsukasa> Jordan_U, =P
[08:30] <Tsukasa> Jordan_U, just answer my question
[08:30] <Tsukasa> from the livecd or harddrive
[08:30] <Tsukasa> it doesnt specify, im guessing livecd
[08:30] <ant1> btw, my country changed the time yesterday because of DST, why didn't Ubuntu update my time ?
[08:31] <Jordan_U> Tsukasa, HD.... But you will get no support or sympathy *when* things break
[08:31] <Xemanth> woohooo one successfull dist upgrade feisty -> gutsy with update-manager
[08:31] <kousotu> kousotu@kousotu-laptop:/usr/local/bin$ '/usr/local/bin/aim'
[08:31] <kousotu> /usr/local/bin/aim: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:31] <Xemanth> kubuntu feisty -> gutsy
[08:31] <pwnguin> or rather, you'll get support, in the form of people asking you to try out new software and upload log files
[08:32] <kousotu> deoendencies aren't added...
[08:32] <pwnguin> and if apt-get breaks, you'll be expected to dig yourself out ;)
[08:33] <kousotu> pwnguin: you talking to me?
[08:33] <pwnguin> no
[08:34] <kousotu> pwnguin: k
[08:34] <pwnguin> Tsukasa: beware
[08:35] <paradizelost> hey all, i've got a Geforce 8800GTX superoverclocked from EVGA, and i'm having a hell of a time getting it to display. it works crappily with the open source drivers, and not at all with nvidia's drivers
[08:35] <pwnguin> Tsukasa: kernel updates don't share
[08:35] <pwnguin> paradizelost: check launchpad, there's a fairly public bug about libwsomething
[08:35] <kousotu> paradizelost: you cold try envy
[08:36] <kousotu> paradizelost: but I hear that it messs somthing up
[08:36] <paradizelost> pwnguin: i had that, but booted to recovery and did an apt-get dist-upgrade and it fixed it
[08:36] <paradizelost> at least i don't get that error anymore
[08:36] <pwnguin> what's superoverclocked mean?
[08:36] <paradizelost> it's the model
[08:36] <pwnguin> sounds dangerous
[08:36] <kousotu> lol
[08:37] <paradizelost> it came that way from EVGA
[08:37] <paradizelost> :D
[08:37] <kousotu> pwnguin: it probably is
[08:37] <paradizelost> it's the 768MB model
[08:37] <pwnguin> hahahaha
[08:37] <paradizelost> but they pre-overclock it
[08:37] <kousotu> yea, bu nvidia's cards suck
[08:37] <pwnguin> well, ive only got a quadro nvs 110m
[08:38] <kousotu> I have;t had much love from them
[08:38] <pwnguin> i hear the 8000s are a bitch
[08:38] <paradizelost> kousotu: no, ATI sux. i had an AIW x800, running on vista, that i couldn't use the damn tuner features because they aren't writing software for it
[08:38] <kousotu> lol
[08:38] <paradizelost> replaced it with this a week or so ago to play bioshock
[08:38] <kousotu> they both suck
[08:38] <kousotu> lol
[08:38] <paradizelost> gave the AIW to my parents
[08:38] <paradizelost> !nvidia
[08:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:39] <pwnguin> im guessing you've already hit up xorg.conf
[08:39] <kousotu> Microsoft made the FX 5200 driver I used on vista
[08:39] <pwnguin> with the correct value
[08:39] <paradizelost> pwnguin: i started off trying to have my 19" LCD, and my 32" HDTV on it, both DVI
[08:39] <paradizelost> but it's being a bitch
[08:40] <paradizelost> will detect res right for the TV, but fonts are HUGE
[08:40] <paradizelost> and when i run nvidia-xconfig and restart gdm, i have to ssh in from another machine and edit xorg.conf and reboot
[08:41] <kousotu> paradizelost: tweak the fonts in linux
[08:41] <paradizelost> but i don't want the oss driver, and i don't want the TV as my primary
[08:41] <paradizelost> and that's all the damn thing is doing
[08:42] <paradizelost> 8800gtx is supported for the driver for 7.04
[08:42] <kousotu> lol
[08:42] <kousotu> try....
[08:42] <pwnguin> dont trust nvidia-xconfig
[08:42] <ant1> is the qui
[08:42] <paradizelost> tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:42] <kousotu> hm..
[08:42] <kousotu> nvm
[08:42] <kousotu> lol
[08:42] <pwnguin> just edit xorg.conf directly
[08:43] <paradizelost> and that just gets me to the original situation
[08:43] <kousotu> I don;t know
[08:43] <Jordan_U> paradizelost, Did you choose "nv" as the driver or "nvidia"?
[08:44] <paradizelost> well, nv is the only one that semi-works. if i change to nvidia, i ahve to ssh in from another machine and change xorg.conf and reboot
[08:44] <paradizelost> hmm here's a site that says i need to add nv to the disabled modules
[08:44] <Jordan_U> paradizelost, I guess bulletproof X is not in Gutsy  yet :)
[08:45] <pwnguin> last i tried, the bulletproof part wasn't quite bulletproof itself
[08:45] <paradizelost> hmm. getting further now
[08:45] <paradizelost> fonts are better
[08:45] <spowers> speaking of which, is it possible to build or install the new xorg release on gutsy?
[08:46] <spowers> i WANT to break my system
[08:46] <pwnguin> im sure its possible
[08:46] <pwnguin> grab the cvs
[08:46] <pwnguin> or git or whatever they use
[08:47] <spowers> what's the right way to handle that, just uninstall all of the standard X packages? i wonder about conflicts with binaries and stuff already installed
[08:47] <spowers> maybe i should start with a no-x install
[08:47] <pwnguin> the "correct" way would probably be to package it
[08:47] <pwnguin> grab the deb source to the current version and have at it
[08:48] <kousotu> ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2' to `/usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3': File exists
[08:48] <kousotu> kousotu@kousotu-laptop:/usr/local/bin$ aimaim: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:49] <pwnguin> aimaim?
[08:50] <paradizelost> the one thing that pisses me off with nvidia. using the official driver, i cannot get back to a console..
[08:51] <pwnguin> you cant?
[08:51] <paradizelost> nope. happens on my laptop too. geforce go 6800
[08:51] <paradizelost> or 6600
[08:51] <pwnguin> i can
[08:51] <paradizelost> backlight is bright, but screen is blank
[08:52] <paradizelost> hey, i have functional interface
[08:52] <paradizelost> but if i run glxgears, it crashes X
[08:52] <pwnguin> nice
[08:52] <paradizelost> seem to have compiz
[08:52] <Jordan_U> pwnguin, Have you booted back into Feisty yet?
[08:52] <paradizelost> no wobbly windows, but vista-ish transitions
[08:52] <pwnguin> Jordan_U: ages ago
[08:52] <pwnguin> Jordan_U: i already filed a bug
[08:53] <pwnguin> it's reproducable
[08:53] <pwnguin> ible
[08:53] <pwnguin> i think i accidentally clicked security bug though
[08:53] <paradizelost> ok, didn't crash this time, but not displaying the gears
[08:54] <pwnguin> bug 138185
[08:54] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 138185 in update-manager "New distribution release '7.10' is available" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138185
[08:54] <pwnguin> paradizelost: are you doing anything different?
[08:55] <paradizelost> i followed a diff. guide. had me get build-essential, xserver-xorg-dev, disable NV in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules, reboot, run the NVIDIA .sh file, have it config xorg, and reboot
[08:56] <pwnguin> i mean between the run where glxgears crashed and the one where you just got a black screen
[08:56] <paradizelost> no. just logged back in and tried it again
[08:58] <pwnguin> sounds like magic to me
[08:58] <paradizelost> this system has typically been a pain though. in  dapper/feisty, i had to install from the alternate CD...
[09:02] <paradizelost> ok, twinview is getting there...
[09:02] <paradizelost> damn.
[09:03] <paradizelost> crapload of errors with corba
[09:07] <paradizelost> should stuff be sync'ed to vblank?
[09:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[09:08] <pwnguin> only if you care about visual tearing
[09:10] <MilhousePunkRock> I am lacking both the KDM and the KSplash designs for Kubuntu Gutsy (since Tribe 4, regularly updated)...
[09:10] <paradizelost> hmm normal user gets errors but root can log in fine in X
[09:11] <MilhousePunkRock> Neither the splash nor the KDM theme do appear in the appropriate sections of System Settings.. :/
[09:15] <paradizelost> well, back to vistta for now. and time for bed. i'll cya l8r
[09:16] <kousotu> something crashd X how di I check what?
[09:22] <Amaranth> kousotu: nvidia-glx-new, you use compiz, and you started an opengl app (maybe a screensaver)
[09:22] <Amaranth> kousotu: right?
[09:22] <kousotu> no
[09:22] <kousotu> Intel
[09:22] <kousotu> and I tried to install aim for wine
[09:22] <Amaranth> oh
[09:23] <Amaranth> X should never crash unless there is a bug in X or in a driver
[09:23] <Amaranth> the scenario i mentioned is the most common
[09:23] <Amaranth> why are you trying to use AIM in WINE? just use pidgin
[09:24] <kousotu> pidgin doesn;t havegroup chats an aim
[09:24] <Amaranth> oh?
[09:25] <Amaranth> oh, you don't mean chat rooms
[09:27] <kousotu> ??
[09:27] <kousotu> not ims, group chat
[09:58] <illyjay> read topic etc.. quick tips for updating a feisty box which is currently using amaranth's compiz repo? also have vmware and cedega installed.. remove these first?
[10:03] <illyjay> amaranth: should i remove compiz before updating to gutsy?
[10:03] <mewt> I would need a quick and easy to use wysiwyg web editor..any ideas ?
[10:03] <Amaranth> illyjay: not if you're using my repo
[10:03] <illyjay> for some reason.. the proprietry nvidia driver has just stopped working in feisty.. black screen
[10:03] <mewt> (something to edit a frontpage generated webpage with)
[10:04] <illyjay> nothing in x.org logs to indicate really why this is happening
[10:05] <illyjay> :1,$ s/feisty/gutsy/g
[10:06] <illyjay> in /etc/apt/sources.list ? :P
[10:10] <illyjay> i'll try nvidia-new driver instead
[10:18] <mewt> anyone know of a support channel for kompozer ?
[10:18] <mewt> please ?
[10:19] <ikonia> isn't it covered under #kde
[10:20] <mewt> i dunno if it's a kde app, it's an offshoot of nvu
[10:20] <ikonia> I thought kde had put it in their desktop too
[10:20] <ikonia> hence the name
[10:20] <mewt> ah maybe, lemm join then
[10:20] <ikonia> not certain
[10:21] <mewt> well the only prob i have is that it isnt loading .png images that are referred to by an htm file itself
[10:21] <mewt> altho once on the webserver
[10:21] <mewt> it work fine
[10:35] <Tsukasa> hey i did a partition install of gutsy and i dont think my other partition is mounted
[10:49] <mewt> I think I found a bug in the printing panel
[10:49] <mewt> in gutsy
[10:49] <mewt> can anyone help me confirm it ?
[10:51] <mewt> I clicked change device url, in order to change the printer address and selected a printer on the network which is hosted as a samba share on a windows pc..on clicking apply, only "smb" appears as text in the address field
[10:51] <mewt> the address gets lost
[10:51] <mewt> anyone can confirm pleasE?
[11:44] <mewt> if compiz crashes, how can you restart it without having to go to the appearance applet ?
[11:46] <Amaranth> mewt: compiz --replace &
[11:47] <mewt> ye got that thanks..compiz is crashing all the time now :(
[11:47] <mewt> might be cos i just upgraded xorg without restarting it ?
[11:48] <mewt> i just did a sudo apt-get update
[11:48] <mewt>  /upgrade
[12:02] <paolo_> shouldn't I see under appearance - appearance preferences - Theme  both Clearlooks and clearlooks classic? I only see Clearlooks...
[12:06] <asisak> paolo_: I guess you should.
[12:07] <asisak> paolo_: no. Click on Customize and you can set them.
[12:08] <paolo_> I see. thanks!
[12:35] <mewt> Im trying to do an strace of firefox
[12:35] <mewt> cos it's crashing
[12:36] <mewt> and i used the following command
[12:36] <mewt> strace firefox > firefox.trace
[12:36] <mewt> the resultant file looks empty tho
[12:36] <mewt> were did i go wrong ?
[12:36] <mewt> i got some output to terminal
[12:36] <mewt> on the other hand
[12:37] <mewt> *** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: munmap_chunk(): invalid pointer: 0x0a46c570 ***
[12:37] <mewt>    <-- is this the culprit ?
[12:39] <mewt> anyone ?
[12:41] <xukun> hi everybody
[12:43] <xukun> I,m trying to install ubuntu 7.10 but the grub install fails everytime. It just says the installation step failed. I have no Idea what to do from here
[01:12] <Turbooster> My NTFS drives aren't mounted anymore under gutsy. I noticed the change of description from h** to s** and now back but didn't get the change to h** to work
[01:12] <Turbooster> i changed fstab to s** and now back just it doesn't work now
[01:15] <Turbooster> wine ie autodetects double the number of drives (each one with h AND another one of each with s in front) and NTFS-config says 'drive shutdown untidy' or similar
[01:16] <Turbooster> But sysmon says that the drives aren't mounted...
[01:23] <No1Viking> Guys..... what do you think about Gutsy, can I install it and be happy without to much trouble?
[01:25] <No1Viking> I mean... are there lots of bugs in it presently?
[01:26] <Turbooster> yes there are. Nuisances more than bugs but they are plenty
[01:31] <Turbooster> hm no ideas about my NTFS drives?
[02:02] <Turbooster> "$LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)" Can this happen when a drive is mounted already?
[02:02] <Turbooster> (from mount /media/sdb5
[02:02] <Turbooster> )
[02:02] <Turbooster> )
[02:07] <jxxxt> Anyone know why firefox keeps rebooting my computer???
[02:07] <tretle> can anyone tell me whether that problem with x restarting whenever you would try and do something graphical like play warsow for instance is fixed yet?
[02:13] <mewt> tretle, afaik no still there
[02:14] <tretle> crud
[02:14] <tretle> :)
[02:14] <tbender> hi. i am new to ubuntu and want to test tribe5. is upgrading from feisty to gusty tribe5 comparable with using debian experimental trees?
[02:15] <tretle> does anyone know whats causing the bug?
[02:17] <Hobbsee> tbender: fairly similar, yes.
[02:21] <DexterF> hi
[02:21] <tbender> Hobbsee: thx
[02:22] <DexterF> anyone here familiar with the migration assitant that assimilated my kde settings when switching from slackware?
[02:22] <DexterF> I'd like to extract that app and run it on other dists, where do I find it?
[02:27] <Viper550> they changed the color scheme on Kubuntu...!!! I liked the purple...
[02:29] <mewt> Anyone got any idea how i can make the volume of the sound produced by the java applet in gmail when a new msg is recieved
[02:29] <mewt> the chat applet i mean
[02:30] <IdleOne> !info wine
[02:30] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.42-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 31957 kB, installed size 99904 kB
[02:39] <regis_> hello,i have a problem with bluetooth...the gnome applet calls nautilus that says that obex://[00:12:ee:3b:45:fd]  is not a valid emplacement(translated from the french)
[02:40] <regis_> is there anything else to install that i didn't install?
[02:41] <Hobbsee> Viper550: oh, did we?  screenshot?
[02:42] <Viper550> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Tribe5/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=strigi.png
[02:42] <regis_> and i can connect trough command line but i don't know what to do after that
[02:44] <tbender> just another newb question: whats a good way to upgrade from feisty to gutsy? Do i just have to replace every "feisty" entry in /etc/apt/sources.list with "gutsy" and then make apt-get --update&&apt-get --dist-upgrade?
[02:46] <Viper550> pretty much yeah, I think Dapper Ubuntu had an upgrade tool you could get to go up to Feisty, but I'm not sure if they have Feisty>Gutsy for Kubuntu
[02:47] <Hobbsee> Viper550: oh right
[02:48] <Hobbsee> Viper550: you could go edgy --> feisty, or feisty-->gutsy
[02:48] <Hobbsee> !upgrade
[02:48] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:48] <Hobbsee> not dapper --> feisty
[02:48] <Viper550> yes, it is change sources, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (also, I forgot about Edgy)
[02:49] <Viper550> forgetting Edgy is as bad as forgetting Poland
[02:49] <tbender> !upgrade
[02:49] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:49] <tbender> thx
[02:51] <regis_> hello,i have a problem with multysync...it finds the bluetooth phone but testing the connection doesn't work...what should i do?
[02:51] <regis_> in blutooth
[02:55] <mewt> anyone ever used OOo database ? any good ?
[02:55] <kousotu> that is OOo databade?
[02:55] <kousotu> hey PriceChild
[02:56] <mewt> ye
[02:56] <mewt> database*
[02:56] <kousotu> er....
[02:56] <kousotu> what is*
[02:56] <mewt> a dBMS afaics, something like access
[03:02] <regis_> do someone knows bluetooth here?
[03:07] <regis_> mewt, you could try it...you need odbc and myodbc for mysql
[03:08] <mewt> regis_, thanks, but my assignment involves an _Access_ db specifically
[03:08] <mewt> damn vb.net assignment
[03:08] <regis_> mewt, so i don't know...but if you find out tell me...i am interrested
[03:09] <mewt> it seems to only be able to create databases which are odb
[03:09] <mewt> and save as odb only as yet
[03:10] <regis_> mewt, i don't even know wich driver use for acess on linux
[03:26] <finalbeta> O my god, they changed the graphics on gnometris. good... But they made it so heavy I can't drop the blocks at full speed.
[03:31] <UpgradeBoy> Hi folks, where can I download something similar to etch-custom incorpoating suport for installing on newer HW such as Asus p5k with P35 chipsets?
[03:40] <__tim> finalbeta: yeah, I get that too, even on a brand-new laptop. I find it unplayable now with themes other than the plain one. silly, isn't it?
[03:40] <finalbeta> Yeah, it's very funny
[04:02] <SoulChild> hey all
[04:02] <SoulChild> i just updated to new kernel 2.6.22-10-generic which was availabe through update today. Now my soundcard (Intel onboard) does not work anymore,... i already load the module
[04:04] <dfgas> anyone using virtualbox on gusty?
[04:08] <kousotu> SoulChild: check yoursorround
[04:09] <SoulChild> kousotu: i found the error but couldn't fix it
[04:09] <SoulChild> when trying to "modprobe sndihda-intel" i get "FATAL: MOdule does not exists",.. but i have the module file in my kernel path in "/lib/modules/",... what's wrong there???
[04:10] <kousotu> hm...
[04:11] <kousotu> try modprobe <drag from sourcehere>
[04:11] <kousotu> like this: kousotu@kousotu-laptop:~$ wine '/home/kousotu/Desktop/Install_AIM59.exe'
[04:12] <kousotu> excep that's obviously not the intel card lol
[04:13] <kousotu> type "modprobe", drag the modual into the terminal window, highlight the terminal windoe, hitbackspace
[04:14] <kousotu> it should show "  modprobe '/path/to/it/here'  "
[04:14] <kousotu> hit enter and see what happens
[04:24] <terlmann> well
[04:24] <terlmann> now my nvidia is officialy shot
[04:24] <terlmann> it was only Temporaraly working
[04:25] <terlmann> like it was baiting me
[04:25] <terlmann> I get a few hours on my fav game (sauerbraten) and then it starts whacking out again
[04:25] <terlmann> corruption everywhere
[04:25] <terlmann> wont even load gdm !
[04:26] <terlmann> well , sorta
[04:26] <terlmann> looked like a checkerboard of sharp white and gentle orange rectangles
[04:26] <terlmann> no dialog would render its text.
[04:27] <terlmann> you had to move the mouse over the text to get it to draw ,and that was only a few lines worth
[04:53] <XiXaQ> hello everyone. I'm running a tribe 5 live session. I'm using nvidia restricted drivers and I have a problem with colours. It all seems way too light.
[05:02] <mewt> send ikonia | /home/mewt/firefox.trace
[05:11] <ohad> hi, having problems with wep / encryption wifi with gutsy -- on thinkpad x61s
[05:11] <ohad> i can only connect to open networks
[05:14] <ohad> anyone?
[05:15] <mewt> have you got wpa-supplicant installed ?
[05:16] <Hobbsee> would help if you said which chipset
[05:16] <etnoy> anybody wanting to help me with debugging my hibernation? Seems to be a problem with dbus
[05:17] <etnoy> if anybody could see if the following command works (i.e. doesn't return error immediately) I would be grateful
[05:17] <etnoy>  dbus-send --system --dest=com.novell.powersave --print-reply /com/novell/powersave com.novell.powersave.action.SuspendToDisk
[05:17] <etnoy>  dbus-send --system --dest=com.novell.powersave --print-reply /com/novell/powersave com.novell.powersave.action.SuspendToDisk
[05:17] <etnoy> sorry for the dupe
[05:17] <etnoy> I just get Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name com.novell.powersave was not provided by any .service files
[05:17] <ohad> mewt, yes. i have that pkg
[05:18] <ohad> Hobbsee, i'm using the wrapper -- for intel - netw3x32
[05:18] <ohad> wireless works fine on open networks
[05:19] <ohad> but not working at all on WEP/ LEAP etc.
[05:19] <ohad> Hobbsee, oops intel wrapper netw4x32
[05:20] <Hobbsee> right
[05:20] <Hobbsee> no idea then
[05:20] <ohad> :)
[05:20] <ohad> ok. (that sucks that i can't connect to my own network)
[05:26] <GillesM> since an upgrad with gusty or perahps other thing I have the boot message : kernel panic not init found any idea ?
[05:30] <chrisjs169> For some reason my computer kernel panic'd (I'm guessing that's what happened - keyboard was unresponsive, except for Alt+SysRQ+B) and after restarting the computer, my desktop isn't showing any more
[05:32] <chrisjs169> I can get the background to load, but icons and the right click menu don't work
[05:34] <chrisjs169> I've restarted GDM (but not my computer) and haven't had any luck - any ideas?
[05:41] <ohad> wifi on my x61s can't hold a wifi wep: session for more then a minute  NetworkManager: <WARN>  request_and_convert_scan_results(): card took too much time scanning.  Get a better one.
[05:48] <scizzo-> hmmm.....anyone else that has problems with the normal keybindings for stuff being lost after upgrade?
[05:55] <scizzo-> anyone?
[05:56] <scizzo-> ror: 104 (Connection  reset by peer)] 
[05:57] <LinAsH> scizzo-, You mean media keys? It happens to me too
[05:58] <scizzo-> LinAsH: most keys yes
[05:58] <scizzo-> LinAsH: like hold alt+click to move
[05:58] <scizzo-> LinAsH: or focus a window.....you can only focus a window with clicking the title
[05:59] <LinAsH> scizzo-, even Alt-Tab?
[05:59] <scizzo-> nope alt+tab works
[06:00] <scizzo-> but the resize, move and focus is screwed
[06:01] <LinAsH> scizzo-, can't you fix it with preferences/keyboard shortcuts?
[06:02] <scizzo-> doesnt seem like it no
[06:02] <scizzo-> the Alt+Button2 on mouse to resize is not listed in that section as a example
[06:04] <LinAsH> This one works for me (I just had to reset media keys)
[06:05] <scizzo-> reset media keys?
[06:05] <scizzo-> I tried to login and logout but well didnt help to much... :P
[06:06] <LinAsH> (I mean re-set)
[06:07] <LinAsH> scizzo-, try to create a new user, to find out if it comes from your personal config files
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> mewt, ikonia: a) not yet, b) despite the name, it is not a KDE app
[06:14] <mewt> erm..for what if i may ask ?
[06:15] <mewt> oh..kompozer ?
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> yeah
[06:15] <mewt> dunno what the first question was
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> whether there was a channel
[06:15] <mewt> ah ok
[06:15] <mewt> yeah, cos i was looking for one
[06:15] <mewt> any idea when there will be ? I have a query to ask
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> Not sure - there seems to be one registered, but empty - I'll poke the contact and see what happens.
[06:16] <mewt> thanks
[06:17] <mewt> as an aside..anyone in here tried mumble ?
[06:18] <h1st0_> man what'd they do to xorg?
[06:20] <h1st0_> updated earlier this morning its sucking all sorts of resources.
[06:21] <xtknight> i'm getting this constantly.  "[70733.947979]  rtc: lost some interrupts at 2048Hz."  any way to suppress this message so i still have a dmesg to look at?
[06:25] <kousotu> !beryl
[06:25] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:25] <kousotu> (lazy man's ay lol)
[06:25] <xtknight> i fixed the underlying cause of rtc problems.  vmware.  see http://chxo.com/be2/20060821_3333.html
[06:29] <scizzo-> seems like the problem is not in the profile at least
[06:40] <mike> Greets, everyone...
[07:01] <pestilence> will the new Xorg be in gutsy?
[07:08] <PriceChild> pestilence, bits
[07:23] <Xero> If mpd is running, I can't get any other sound.
[07:23] <Xero> Is there a quick fix for this?
[07:36] <pestilence> PriceChild: what does "bits" mean?  how about the new Xrandr?
[07:51] <benanzo> Is Xv still broken under Compiz for xserver-xorg-video-intel?  The LP reports a fix was released and the bug's closed, but it is still broken.  Anyone else have this?
[08:04] <mewt> ikonia, got anything on that trace ?
[08:04] <ikonia> mewt: not much, I'm running it against my newly installed gusty box
[08:05] <mewt> ic
[08:05] <ikonia> I've put some of the what I consider non-relevant stuff on hold
[08:05] <ikonia> while I try to see what does matter
[08:05] <mewt> you think it's that part were glibc gets pulled in ?
[08:06] <homerhomer> um, I enabled IRC helper in Pidgin, but can't find where to configure it :(
[08:08] <ikonia> mewt thats a part that worries me
[08:08] <ikonia> mewt working it through
[08:08] <ikonia> but I'm getting nothing like your experience
[08:08] <mewt> gl
[08:08] <ikonia> give it time though ;)
[08:08] <ikonia> I'll break it
[08:08] <mewt> i can try find the link i was using
[08:09] <mewt> maybe it was something about url formation
[08:10] <mewt> well i got the link but not crashing now
[08:17] <marginoferror> Does anyone know how to make unzip or the archive manager support Japanese filenames?
[08:19] <xtknight> marginoferror, "man unzip",   unzip -b perhaps?
[08:19] <xtknight> not sure.
[08:20] <marginoferror> Nope, that doesn't work
[08:20] <marginoferror> I checked the man page and tried LANG= and LC_ALL=
[08:20] <xtknight> i'm guessing unzip doesn't support UTF-16 maybe
[08:21] <xtknight> actually i'm surprised ext3 does?
[08:21] <marginoferror> I don't think it's UTF-16
[08:21] <marginoferror> I think it's UTF-8.  Uncompressed filenames work fine
[09:03] <Viper550> Anyone having issues with Gutsy and VMWare Server?
[09:51] <SpudDogg> anyone here?
[09:52] <marginoferror> About 180 people, I suppose
[09:53] <SpudDogg> any idea why on my brand new install, any keypress changes my screen resolution?  i cant even log in
[09:53] <marginoferror> That's a new one.
[09:53] <marginoferror> No idea, sorry.
[09:53] <SpudDogg> yea, never had this problem before
[09:54] <SpudDogg> i ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg thinking maybe a keyboard setting got messed up, but that wasn't it
[10:01] <penguin42> don't suppose anyone has found any fixes for Intel sound quietness since last week have they?
[10:08] <TheInfinity> penguin42: my last updates is 3 days ago and theres no fix
[10:08] <TheInfinity> i think it is 3 days ...
[10:08] <penguin42> I did a big upgrade today and it is the same - it's useable at full volume
[10:10] <TheInfinity> ok here i have no sound at all - some probs with intel hda and mbp ...
[10:10] <mikedep333> hello, is the nvidia proprietary driver working for anyone?
[10:10] <pwnguin> it was last night for me
[10:10] <penguin42> TheInfinity: Do you know of a bug number for it?
[10:10] <pwnguin> 8000 series by chance?
[10:10] <mikedep333> yeah
[10:11] <mikedep333> geforce 8800GTS
[10:11] <TheInfinity> penguin42: no.
[10:11] <pwnguin> nice
[10:11] <mikedep333> with nvidia-new and I think with regular nvidia
[10:11] <pwnguin> the newer one seems more likely to work
[10:11] <mikedep333> you weren't using nvidia-legacy, were you?
[10:11] <pwnguin> nope
[10:11] <mikedep333> ok
[10:11] <mikedep333> I'll see if this goes away within a few days
[10:11] <mikedep333> and if not, submit a bug report
[10:12] <pwnguin> the 8800s seem to have regular problems
[10:12] <pwnguin> i'd just look for bugs on launchpad to subscribe to
[10:12] <mikedep333> oh
[10:12] <pwnguin> chances are someone's already filed
[10:12] <mikedep333> yeah
[10:12] <mikedep333> let me check now
[10:12] <penguin42> TheInfinity: So yours is also quiet at boot - not just the resume issue?
[10:14] <TheInfinity> https://cbg.dyndns.org/wiki/ReadingCorner/LinuxOnMacbookPro
[10:19] <MTecknology> !download
[10:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[10:20] <MTecknology> !download+1
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about download+1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <MTecknology> !download gutsy
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about download gutsy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <MTecknology> anybody?
[10:20] <TheInfinity> what do you try? :o
[10:21] <SpudDogg> that keyboard error i had was no fun
[10:21] <MTecknology> TheInfinity, I want to download the most current cd
[10:21] <TheInfinity> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/ <--
[10:22] <TheInfinity> but it is alpha. i hope you know what this means :)
[10:22] <MTecknology> gnome?
[10:22] <MTecknology> ya
[10:22] <TheInfinity> delete the k and you have gnome :p
[10:23] <TheInfinity> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/tribe-5/ <--
[10:23] <TheInfinity> ok - nearly ;)
[10:24] <MTecknology> is it better doing an upgrade with aptitude or the cd?
[10:25] <TheInfinity> cd = fresh install without buggy conf files
[10:25] <TheInfinity> aptitude = the way it should work easy
[10:26] <TheInfinity> hh
[10:26] <TheInfinity> synaptic
[10:26] <MTecknology> ?
[10:26] <TheInfinity> aptitude = the unsupported way *g*
[10:27] <MTecknology> synaptic is more supported than aptitude?
[10:27] <TheInfinity> yes of course
[10:27] <pwnguin> how so?
[10:27] <TheInfinity> ir in kde adept
[10:27] <MTecknology> i always thought it was the other way
[10:27] <MTecknology> is apt-get = synaptic?
[10:27] <pwnguin> they're both in main
[10:27] <TheInfinity> because most user will upgrade via synaptic -> this is the way which should be testet ...
[10:27] <SpudDogg> when you install a package via synaptic, doesnt it just run aptitude/apt-get?
[10:28] <SpudDogg> same with updates?
[10:28] <pwnguin> im not sure what "more supported means"
[10:28] <TheInfinity> yea ..
[10:29] <MTecknology> i guess I'll make a backup of my installed packages list and repo list...
[10:29] <SpudDogg> im interested here because i NEVER use synaptic package manager...takes too long, imo
[10:29] <MTecknology> it's too bad I don't have a spare partition
[10:29] <TheInfinity> SpudDogg: me too, but ... ubuntu should be also for non-console users :)
[10:30] <SpudDogg> TheInfinity, yea, thats the beauty of ubuntu, anyone can use it.
[10:30] <TheInfinity> yes :)
[10:30] <SpudDogg> i just wish i could help out more with debugging, etc, but i dont know programming well ehough
[10:30] <SpudDogg> enough
[10:30] <TheInfinity> thats why users which console knowledge should test the GUI versions because they can fix bugs and wrsite bug reports ...
[10:31] <TheInfinity> SpudDogg: dito ...
[10:31] <SpudDogg> i joined the doc team hoping to help out there, and found myself just fixing grammatical errors all the time
[10:31] <SpudDogg> lol
[10:32] <ShackJack> SpudDogg: Yeah that's pretty sad... but I guess that's a result of the "texting" generation :)
[10:32] <MTecknology> Is there any way to save the list of packages I have installed?
[10:33] <SpudDogg> ShackJack: TheInfinity and I were just talking about how we wish we could help out more with debugging, etc, but aren't good enough with programming
[10:33] <MTecknology> I know there's a nice option to save what I just installed, but i don't see anything about everything that is installed
[10:33] <ShackJack> What's most of the proggies done in? C#?
[10:33] <swx1> Is there anyone who can help me linking ccsm to desktop effects in gutsy ?
[10:33] <SpudDogg> ShackJack, i think c/c++
[10:33] <SpudDogg> but i could be wrong
[10:34] <SpudDogg> i also think perl is coming around, i see more and more of it
[10:34] <TheInfinity> c++
[10:34] <ShackJack> Ahh... I'm a bit noobish myself, but have some programming experience
[10:34] <ShackJack> I'm better on the usability side...
[10:34] <TheInfinity> C#? do you have coding slaves porting everything from c++ to c#? :Dc
[10:34] <SpudDogg> rofl
[10:35] <ShackJack> swx1: What do you mean link ccsm to desktop effects?
[10:35] <SpudDogg> TheInfinity, nice
[10:35] <TheInfinity> most linux apps are older then C# ;)
[10:35] <penguin42> TheInfinity: Bug #138322 I've just filed for quiet sound
[10:35] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 138322 in ubuntu "[gutsy]  Sound very quiet (Intel 82801G/ALC861)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138322
[10:36] <swx1> ShackJack: Im tryin to find a way to configure desktop effects (integrated compiz-fuzion in gutsy)..
[10:36] <ShackJack> swx1: Ahhh and you just reminded me, I can start desktop effects the normal way without having a separate startup session program call - yay!
[10:36] <penguin42> MTecknology: dpkg -l   will get you a full list of a packages
[10:36] <TheInfinity> penguin42: if i'm ready with my damn server os change i'll look if my bug also exists
[10:36] <ShackJack> swx1: Should be under prefs. no?
[10:36] <SpudDogg> i had that volume problem with feisty on my laptop, im surprised they havent fixed that yet
[10:36] <MTecknology> penguin42, ty
[10:36] <ShackJack> swx1: If not, make sure you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed...
[10:37] <penguin42> SpudDogg: I think a lot of audio bugs that Feisty had but got fixed seem to have come back
[10:38] <swx1> ShackJack: yes but it only offers 3 options, disable, normal effect, extra effect.. no problem for running compiz, it start automatically when I installed nvidia drivers, now I tried to install compizconfig, it did worked but it seems that it gives no control on the integrated compiz fuzion
[10:39] <ShackJack> swx1: It should be separate option under prefs... "CompizConfig Settings Manager" that's where you'll find it...
[10:39] <SpudDogg> is compiz better than beryl?
[10:39] <ShackJack> SpudDogg: Beryl is dead, so compiz is really the only way forward (Fusion is beryl plugins remerged with compiz)
[10:40] <SpudDogg> cool, on this new install i'll use that instead
[10:40] <swx1> ShackJack: Yes the applet is running without no problem but it seems ta have no link with compiz.. since it is an integrated fonction just like in feisty the only way ton config it is via gconf right ?
[10:40] <ShackJack> SpudDogg: Yeah, for gutsy Beryl is redundant...
[10:40] <MTecknology> well, the update manager is telling me it can only do a partial upgrade
[10:41] <swx1> MTecknology, go on... it seems to be normal in gutsy
[10:41] <ShackJack> swx1: Wha? The "CompizConfig Settings Manager" is the pref setting that controls compiz fusion, really :)
[10:41] <ShackJack> swx1: It gives the option of storing settings in gconf or a flat file, btw...
[10:42] <swx1> Shackjack: yup i saw this option it is settled to gconf
[10:43] <ShackJack> swx1: Anyway, that's what controls it... far easier than mucking about in gconf...
[10:43] <ShackJack> brb - logging out/in
[10:43] <swx1> lol
[10:44] <swx1> anyone with better understanding of my situation? cant get ccsm to change settings of integrated compiz fuzion in gutsy.. please :)
[10:44] <fuoco> does totem plugin work in firefox granparadiso?
[10:44] <MTecknology> i remember last time when i upgraded... It broke because gdm crashed from the changes and that made everything else hang :P
[10:45] <MTecknology> I think I'll do it from tty2 with apt-get dist-upgrade this time :P
[10:46] <MTecknology> I disabled repos that weren't ubuntu also, like the repos I was using for thunderbird, getdeb, and the like
[10:46] <MTecknology> i hope that's a good idea :S
[10:48] <MTecknology> and i may as well stop gdm while i'm at it... i really want to make sure the upgrade is smooth
[10:48] <penguin42> MTecknology: I  think I had to fight a few packages when I did it a few weeks ago
[10:49] <MTecknology> penguin42, that's the reason I turned off the extra repos... i'm guessing it's likely that some things were added
[10:50] <MTecknology> like pidgin, is that in the gutsy repos?
[10:50] <penguin42> MTecknology: Yep pidgin is here
[10:51] <michael> so that's one repo i don't need anymore
[10:51] <michael> what about tunderbird?
[10:51] <ShackJack> Ahhh beack... thought gutsy desktop effects autostart was being finicky, but turns out I left my compiz --replace in the start session progs... DOH!
[10:52] <ShackJack> Although my titlebar text is rather huge (!)
[10:52] <MTecknology> is thunderbird in the repos?
[10:52] <penguin42> pacakges.ubuntulinux.org should have a full list
[10:53] <MTecknology> penguin42: i don't have gdm running now... trying to avoid issues from the past
[10:53] <ShackJack> MTecknology: yes it is... you can always  aptitude search thunderbird :)
[10:53] <MTecknology> ok
[10:54] <MTecknology> there's a total of four repos that i know i don't need anymore :) - less downloading when doing updates :D
[10:54] <regis_> hello, i have an NFS problem...both pc can ping each others but showmount -e doesn't work...
[10:54] <ShackJack> Anyone else getting "larger than normal" titlebar text with desktop effects? When I toggle it on/off it goes back to normal...
[10:54] <regis_> and nmap behave strangely ffending packet: TCP 168.0.0.2:61111 > 168.0.0.1:22 S ttl=39 id=44633 iplen=44  seq=2748944927 win=4096 <mss 1460>
[10:54] <MTecknology> 13% dloaded
[10:55] <regis_> is it the fault of app-armor?
[10:55] <regis_> ah now NFS works...strange
[11:15] <RadiantFire> does anyone know whats up with the new "search" place in the file chooser? I try to search for things and it never seems to find anything
[11:16] <penguin42> RadiantFire: Seems to work here - it did eat my machines speed before creating the database
[11:16] <ShackJack> AAARRRGGH! What the HELL is causing my Desktop effects to crash X at random ?!!! (just a rant nevermind me)
[11:16] <RadiantFire> penguin42: ahh.. its querying tracker?
[11:16] <penguin42> RadiantFire: I *think* so
[11:16] <RadiantFire> penguin42: that explains it, I just did a fresh install and tracker is still thrashing on me
[11:17] <penguin42> nod
[11:17] <ShackJack> Are any Gutsy users having stability issues with fglrx/xgl and Fusion? I just want to know I'm not alone :)
[11:47] <j00bar> howdy! running gutsy, updating daily, using xgl+fglrx -- when i boot up, one user can log in just fine. when that user logs out and another logs in, the session immediately closes and goes back to the login screen with .xsession-errors complaining that /tmp/.X1-lock still exists and is owned by another user
[11:48] <j00bar> when i remove it and try to log in again, it reports various errors about a socket already existing then being unable to open.
[11:48] <j00bar> then if i restart gdm, it continualy fails to load.
[11:48] <j00bar> any ideas?
[11:48] <j00bar> when i reboot after all of that, it works just fine.
[11:50] <Pici> j00bar: Have you looked for that problem in launchpad?
[11:50] <j00bar> pici: trying now...
[11:51] <derekS> i noticed that my libnotify notifications come up on the wrong screen with guts
[11:51] <derekS> y
[11:51] <derekS> you know how to change that?
[11:57] <j00bar> pici: unless i'm using launchpad wrong, which i frequently seem to do, i see no open xserver-xgl bugs in gutsy
[12:00] <Pici> j00bar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xgl/
[12:03] <j00bar> pici: isn't that for all releases, not just gutsy?
[12:03] <j00bar> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/xserver-xgl/
[12:03] <Pici> j00bar: Yes, but thats how they do bugtracking in launchpad
[12:04] <Pici> I dont understand why either.
[12:05] <j00bar> k. i'll save copies of the .xsession-errors and make a new bug...
[12:17] <MTecknology> dpkg: error processing tzdata (--configure):     subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10
[12:17] <penguin42> A few lines before the actual error from the script should have appeared
[12:18] <MTecknology> tzdata already newest...
[12:18] <MTecknology> following packages have unmet dependencies...
[12:20] <MTecknology> kghostview: Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.7-1) but 4:3:5.6-0ubuntu14.1 is to be installed
[12:20] <MTecknology> there's two of those
[12:21] <MTecknology> any ideas
[12:21] <MTecknology> ?
[12:22] <Sergemine> Dear Friends, Need you advice. II need to instal a Gusty packae on Feisty. Is there a way to do that ??? even if it may currupt some bits. I need it to know if the package install everythng needed for my printer.
[12:26] <penguin42> Sergemine: Is the package in the feisty-backports repository?
[12:26] <MTecknology> where was it that I can dload the cd?
[12:28] <MTecknology> i think i'm going to need to go from scratch
[12:28] <Pici> I'm backup up now to do just that
[12:29] <penguin42> MTecknology: Now you do see why the /topic warns to make sure you can fight your way through deb problems before trying an upgrade!
[12:29] <MTecknology> penguin42: don't worry - i'm not coomplaining
[12:30] <penguin42> you can probably fix it
[12:30] <MTecknology> i'm perfectly willing to do a clean install of either version if i can't get it fixed
[12:30] <MTecknology> either way though - i need to fix somebodies computer. They're claiming it's incredibly slow and they're running windows
[12:31] <MTecknology> i offered to fix it under one condition
[12:31] <Sergemine> penguin42, no
[12:32] <penguin42> Sergemine: ?
[12:32] <Sergemine> penguin42, but it is in Gusy's repo
[12:32] <MTecknology> i figure if i'm going to install ubuntu on it then i may as well grab 7.10
[12:32] <penguin42> Sergemine: What's the package?
[12:32] <MTecknology> anybody willing to give me the link again?
[12:33] <Sergemine> It is http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/text/foo2zjs
[12:34] <Sergemine> penguin42, it is the updated driver that is supposed to have some kind of compression XQX protocol that is specific for my printer only. I need to know if it is there
[12:37] <penguin42> Sergemine: You can try filing a bug on the feisty-backports and it often try a rebuild for the packport quickly; or you could try building it from source pacakges for feisty
[12:38] <MTecknology> here's my errors: http://pastebin.ca/687685
[12:43] <scizzo-> MTecknology: seems like a package error
[12:43] <scizzo-> when doing --configure
[12:43] <MTecknology> ya
[12:44] <MTecknology> i tried doing dpkg-reconfigure tzdata but it complains about tzdata being broken\
[12:45] <penguin42> hmm that is odd - no errors from the actual script printed
[12:45] <penguin42> MTecknology: You should find the package in your /var/cache/apt/archives - try installing it with dpkg -i ?
[12:47] <MTecknology> that returns the same error code, just as helpful
[12:49] <Sergemine> Dear penguin42: ...or you could try building it from source pacakges for feisty. I am not aprogrammer and I do not know how to compile software. I would love to learn to do it, but there is no one to teach me that. How do people usually solve these situation? Do I pay someone to do it for me? How much does it cost? Is there a service on internet that do these compilations? Does everyone here know how to ocmpile software?
[12:50] <penguin42> Sergemine: Hmm I suggest the easiest thing is to post a bug on launchpad against feisty-backports asking for the package; last time I did that they had it built in a few days but it depends whether it is just a mattter of automatically building it or someone has to fix something
[12:51] <penguin42> Sergemine: Or wait a few weeks and Gutsy will be here
[12:51] <MTecknology> i think i'm going to need a fresh install if i can't figure it out
[12:59] <penguin42> MTecknology: try a dpkg --purge on tzdata and then reinstall it
[01:01] <TheInfinity> tzdata likes to make problems, uh?
[01:02] <MTecknology> i can't purge it b/c other packaged depend on it
[01:02] <MTecknology> packages*
[01:03] <TheInfinity> MTecknology: theres an option to purge it anyway. i had this prob on my debian3.1 server ....
[01:05] <Sergemine> penguin42, thak you very much. will try to compile now. and send a report id don't manage... thank you
[01:07] <MTecknology> k, i got rid of it
[01:07] <MTecknology> apt-get isntall -f finished nicely
[01:07] <MTecknology> i'll try a dist-upgrade again
[01:09] <MTecknology> looks to be doing much better now
[01:10] <penguin42> there's normally one package that needs a bit of a fight during a dist-upgrade ; unfortunate but that is my experience
[01:11] <MTecknology> i've never had a flawless upgrade
[01:11] <MTecknology> but i guess that's to be expected... I've only waited to the release once
[01:11] <baktaah_> E: ttf-opensymbol: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 56
[01:11] <baktaah_> You get that too
[01:12] <MTecknology> baktaah_: wanna give a pastebin with more info?
[01:13] <baktaah_> !pastebin
[01:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:13] <baktaah_> MTecknology, and my system is going VEEEEERY SLOW
[01:13] <baktaah_> even though a fresh install, c2d processor on 3.4 ghz, 2 gig ram, nvidia 8600 512 mb ram (with nvidia drivers)
[01:14] <baktaah_> MTecknology,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36839/
[01:15] <MTecknology> baktaah_: try what i did... sudo dpkg --force-all -P ttf-opensymbol && sudo apt-get install -f
[01:16] <baktaah_> MTecknology,  nope, still fails
[01:17] <MTecknology> which part?
[01:17] <baktaah_> all of them
[01:17] <baktaah_> they all fail to write to cache and etc
[01:17] <baktaah_> now I cant even upgrade my stuff
[01:18] <penguin42> MTecknology: You should be careful with the --force-all or any --force's - only use them as weapons of last resort
[01:19] <MTecknology> sorry
[01:19] <baktaah_> still getting E: ttf-opensymbol: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 56