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geserkeescook: could you sponsor bug #138149? It includes a fix for CVE-2007-1888.03:35
ubotuLaunchpad bug 138149 in sqlite "[Fake sync]  sqlite (2.8.17-2.1build1) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13814903:35
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cjwatsonaquo: you don't need to install either manually; just use whichever the g++ version you're using depends on07:53
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Amaranthwow i never knew the upgrade tool told you about packages that have moved to universe10:12
Amaranththat's a nice touch10:12
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Kopfgeldjaegerhi!11:02
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stdinhmm, I need some advice: how would you split a source-package in to more than one binary-package when each binary-package is just compiled differently. ie: the only difference is the libs they are compiled against11:36
stdinnot sure how well I explained it there :p11:37
Fujitsustdin: Is this about the Qt[34] /KDE variants bug that I saw earlier?11:40
stdinit is :)11:40
FujitsuI ran away quickly.11:41
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Amaranthstdin: look at totem11:42
Amaranthstdin: it builds twice, once against xine, once against gstreamer11:43
stdinhmm, I'll go have a look. thanks11:43
geserdoko: something got wrong with your vectormath package: libvectormath-dev depends on libvectormath1 which doesn't exist11:45
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Hobbseehmmm.   sabdfl is emailing us all again.  scary.01:30
sabdflwatching quietly here, too ;-)01:31
sabdflhow are you, Hobbsee?01:31
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Hobbseearg!  he's here!01:32
geserHi Hobbsee, sabdfl01:32
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sabdflhey geser, glad to hear it Hobbsee!01:32
Hobbseesabdfl: i didnt even kill anyone :P01:32
sabdflmy kind of gal01:33
pygiHobbsee, your not that scary, you just pretend to be =)01:33
zul_Hobbsee is always scarey01:33
Hobbseepygi: oh, i can be scary.01:33
pygiHobbsee, nop :)01:33
Hobbseesabdfl: it seems to be teh weekend, why are you here?01:34
asisakHobbsee: What do you work that eventually involves killing people?01:34
Hobbseeasisak: killing customers.  not staff.  usually.01:34
jdstrandmdz: are you seeing odd behavior with your brightness controls and defaults on your laptop?  (I believe we have the same laptop)01:34
Hobbseeasisak: at a supermarket01:34
Hobbseeoh yay, cprov is back!01:35
sabdfljdstrand: i see that on my X6001:36
jdstrandI saw #81407, but it is all over the place (people talking about different symptoms, etc)01:36
jdstrandsabdfl: I have a T4201:37
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jdstrandbug 8140701:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 81407 in gnome-power-manager "[Feisty]  Thinkpad (all models) LCD brightness control cycles between lowest settings only" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8140701:37
mjg59I'm working on it01:37
sabdflhey mjg5901:37
mjg59hal is just broken here01:37
jdstrandmjg59: this is for gutsy?01:37
\shnice...I thought my t43 is broken, so I replaced it with a new one *lol*01:38
mjg59Yes01:38
jdstrandmjg59: cool01:38
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jdstrandmjg59: another symptom I have is on login it defaults to the lowest brightness.  after a little while things 'settle down' and I can adjust it properly (that is, until g-p-m kicks in, and its reset to the lowest)01:40
jdstrandmjg59: I'm guessing its all related?01:40
sladensomewhere I was in the middle of killing thinkpad-keys and replacing it with acpi-support events01:41
jdstrandmjg59: note that gdm displays the proper brightness01:41
sladenwhich should do with the CPU issue and may deal with the brightness weirdness at 100%01:41
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mjg59jdstrand: Pretty much01:42
mjg59gpm is getting bogus answers from hal because it's not standardised whether stuff sends uints or ints01:43
jdstrandhey cool, it just went to its lowest brightness as I read your response01:43
jdstrandmjg59: ah.  is there a bug I can subscribe to?01:43
jdstrandif its convenient01:43
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jdstrandI ask cause there are a bunch of seemingly related reports, and I don't know which you are actively updating01:49
mjg59I was mostly ignoring them because a huge number of people have started reporting entirely unrelated issues in the same bugs01:53
mjg59I'll get it to the point where it should work, then see whether there's still anyone complaining :)01:53
jdstrandyes-- I saw that too.  Well knowing someone is working on it is ok by me.  Thanks!01:53
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Amaranthmjg59: dude that happens to a lot of the compiz bugs02:15
Amaranthsomeone reports a problem and 5 people leave comments with completely different problems02:15
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StevenKAmaranth: I hate that. "Oh, that isn't my problem at all - this is my problem" in a bug report.02:18
lucky_lucasHi, every one, I just read that the backlight issue is on the track (happy), I would like to konw what is the state of the compiz/X crash ?02:19
lucky_lucasI reported a bug but it was somehow unusable02:19
lucky_lucasbryce seems to be aware and I saw on the xorg maiing list they know that xorg 7.3 crashes with compiz but don't know if any fixes is planned02:20
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Amaranthlucky_lucas: nvidia?02:34
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lucky_lucasAmaranth: both of them02:51
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lucky_lucasI experience a total freeze on my t43p ati firegl with ati 6.7.192 driver and on the  desktop with nvidia driver02:52
Amaranthoh, the only known problem is the nvidia one, afaik02:52
lucky_lucasI've read on the xorg mailing list that they are aware of crashes with compiz and x02:53
lucky_lucasI don't know if it's a "cross driver " issue02:54
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lucky_lucasTherre is something I don't understand in the doc for debbuging xorg, I'm connected through ssh but once I attach gdb to X, it freeze the desktop02:56
lucky_lucasso I type cont and X goes ok, but I don't have any feedback02:56
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Hobbseegreetings, jono04:05
jonoheya Hobbsee04:06
Hobbseebah.04:07
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jdstrandmjg59: I just upgraded the new hal and rebooted.  _very_ preliminary testing shows the screen brightness on my laptop is working fine again05:45
jdstrandgdm still good, login has no brightness changing, brightness comes back to normal after screen blank05:48
jdstrandgreat job!  thanks :)05:48
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bSONhi05:55
bSONwill the dodge effect stay the default for ubuntu gutsy's compiz? it is annoying after a short while, way too much movement IMO05:56
bSONnot the subtleness the default settings should have05:57
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=== bhale screams. I have "indexing" clearly unchecked in tracker-preferences and trackerd is spinning my disk like mad
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jdongis it just me, or is tracker a LOT more disk-intensive than beagle?07:05
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geserI've seen other reporting it too07:13
jdongit causes like 5x the midnight-thrashing that I'd see with updatedb...07:15
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siretartyes, it really drains notebook batteries like nothing07:33
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mekiushey, after you login with gdm, somehow the X root window is being set to a brown color, what is controlling this?07:34
mekiusbefore gdm starts up it is using the color i defined in the gdm.conf07:34
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mekiusbut after the login and before the session starts i see brown07:34
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_StefanS_hi there..07:38
Amaranthgeser, jdong: Are you guys talking about tracker?07:39
_StefanS_I would appreciate if someone in here could review this comment fra Rizlaw : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/103401, it seems to be related some session stuff in gnome.07:39
ubotuLaunchpad bug 103401 in kdebase "Reboot-Restart Button with classic LogOut Dialog (doUbuntuLogout=0) doesn't work" [Undecided,Fix released] 07:39
_StefanS_it was reported wrong into a KDE related ticket.07:39
Amaranth_StefanS_: looks like he had a session saved or something07:42
Amaranthi dunno, i've never used that stuff because it basically never works right07:42
_StefanS_Amaranth: yes something like it, is it something you could comment on from a ubuntu kind of view ?07:42
_StefanS_Amaranth: oh. ok07:42
_StefanS_Amaranth: well it just seems odd to use ctrl+alt+backspace, doesn't it kill the X-server?07:43
jdongAmaranth: yeah, I'm talking about tracker07:43
jdongAmaranth: its memory/CPU footprint is impressive, but disk intensity leaves a lot to be desired.07:43
jdongAmaranth: if I didn't have good quality drives in this thing, I'd be concerned about life reduction.07:44
Amaranthjdong: oh?07:46
Amaranthit seems fine here07:46
Amaranthit stops trying to index if something is writing to the file it's indexing07:47
jdongAmaranth: hmm I might just have too much (several multi-GB bzr repos) in my home dir then... because it does about 25 minutes of thrashing per night.07:47
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Amaranthper night?07:47
jdongyes.07:47
jdongper night07:47
Amaranthoh, i know why07:47
Amaranthit ran out of inotify watches07:47
jdongeep...07:47
Amaranthso it periodically crawls your filesystem manually07:48
Amaranthi thought it only did it when it first started07:48
Amaranthif you, say, triple the allowed inotify watches... :)07:48
Amaranthhopefully that's not a compile time thing but i have a feeling it is07:49
jdongwhat are the downsides of doing that, and how do I go about it?07:49
Amaranth(kernel compile time)07:49
Amaranthit's a possible DoS or something07:49
Amaranthi have no idea how to do that07:49
jdongah07:49
jdongoh well minor issue....07:49
Amaranthi know rlove pushed really hard to get a high number in there07:49
Amaranthbut didn't succeed, dunno if ubuntu changes it07:50
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tonyyarussocjwatson, pitti, keybuk: I see that https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/dm-crypt (solution to bug #39326) is still marked as Undefined/Drafting/Unknown, even though the technology has been available upstream for quite a while now.  Why is that, and do you have any estimate of a revised timeline for implementation?08:07
ubotuLaunchpad bug 39326 in debian-installer "installer: dm-crypt support missing" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/3932608:07
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stgraberSeveas: Can you move ubotu from #ubuntu-iso to #ubuntu-testing ?11:01
Seveas@part #ubuntu-iso11:03
ubotuOK11:03
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Seveasstgraber, done :)11:03
stgraberSeveas: thanks11:04
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