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ian_001is there a reason when i press "play online steams" it does nothing?04:55
ian_001im trying to access mythstream, i've added streams to the list but i cant access the actual fnuctionality04:56
TariI don't know05:01
Tarimaybe the logs can enlighten you further05:01
ian_001how do i access the logs?05:02
ian_001or which ones should i be looking at? whats interesting is "mythfrontend stream" works from the command line05:03
tgm4883_laptopian_001, I didn't really play around with it that much, but wondered the same thing05:05
tgm4883_laptophave you tried known working streams?05:05
ian_001yeah the plugin works just fine, if i typed "mythfrontend stream" at the command line it works perfectly, but if i load just mythfrontend and click "play online streams' it just sits there and does nothing05:06
ian_001i think i finally found a bug about it05:06
ian_001but it seems to be an edgy issue05:06
ian_001https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythstream/+bug/13648305:06
ubotuLaunchpad bug 136483 in mythbuntu "mythstream-0.17.2 fails to load in mythtv-0.20.2" [Medium,Fix committed] 05:06
tgm4883_laptopian_001, no thats a different bug05:07
tgm4883_laptopyou couldn't even get into mythstream with that05:07
ian_001i cant05:07
ian_001thats my problem05:07
tgm4883_laptopoh05:07
ian_001but just like in the bug report, using "myfrontend stream" i can05:07
tgm4883_laptopso, when you try to go into mythstream nothing happens?05:08
ian_001yes, if i start mythtv with just "mythfrontend"05:09
tgm4883_laptopare you starting it from the terminal (mythfrontend that is)05:10
ian_001i dont nomrally but since i am having this problem, yes05:10
ian_001if i just boot the machine it has the same problem though05:10
tgm4883_laptopok05:10
tgm4883_laptopthen start it from the terminal, try to access mythstream, then exit.  See if it gives you an error in the terminal05:11
ian_001perfect, Unable to initialize plugin 'mythtream'.05:11
ian_001do you have any idea where i would find that string to fix it?05:12
tgm4883_laptopperfect05:12
tgm4883_laptopthat is the exact problem that the above mentioned bug is05:12
tgm4883_laptopnow the question remains to why it hasn't been fixed in edgy05:12
tgm4883_laptopunfortunatly superm1, who fixed it, is not around right now05:13
ian_001just to clarify a possible miscommunication, i am using the latest MythBuntu from Sept 105:14
tgm4883_laptopah05:14
tgm4883_laptopeven better05:14
tgm4883_laptopyou need to apt-get update then apt-get upgrade05:15
tgm4883_laptopas it has been fixed for mythbuntu05:15
tgm4883_laptopI don't know why I thought you were using edgy05:15
ian_001i mentioned it above thinking this problem had been fixed in edgy but i had misread, my fault05:15
tgm4883_laptopah05:15
tgm4883_laptopI misread your post too05:16
ian_001i live in complete fear of apt-get update though because it always breaks my remote05:16
tgm4883_laptophmm05:16
ian_001i can wait for the next build05:16
tgm4883_laptopwell05:16
tgm4883_laptopwhat remote?05:17
ian_001hauppauge05:17
ian_001150 tuner card05:17
tgm4883_laptopyou may just be able to fix it (if it breaks) in the control centre05:17
ian_001with the previous mythbuntu alpha that didnt work, i wonder where that string is stored though .. since its a plugin you would think it just gets registered in a configuration file somewhere05:18
tgm4883??, the control centre was just added to alpha 405:19
tgm4883with that being said, there is a lircd.conf file and a .lircrc file05:19
ian_001i had the remote problem using alpha 3 and came here and the path i was sent on was gui based so i just presumed it was the control center05:20
ian_001the problem would be the driver wouldnt load correctly05:20
ian_001at least with alpha 305:21
tgm4883laga, if you're around, i'm going to do more testing on the firewire right after I build a new disk with updates05:21
tgm4883interesting05:21
tgm4883you may be able to just update the package that was broken, although im not sure which one that is05:21
ian_001sounds like a good plan, i think i might poke around a little bit, wouldnt hurt for me to learn smoething05:22
ian_001yeah!05:23
ian_001i just did  'sudo cp libmythstream.so liblibmythtream.so' and now it works05:23
tgm4883There is also a list of known bugs for alpha 4 at http://www.mythbuntu.org/05:23
ian_001i know its a terrible hack05:23
tgm4883yep05:24
tgm4883that does work05:24
tgm4883also a sym link05:24
ian_001oh a symlink owuld have been a much more linux solution! i should try that05:24
tgm4883although, I believe that it still wont work as there is also the issue of mythtream05:25
ian_001it loaded perfectly for me05:25
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sslashesany idea why mythmusic visualizations would not work?06:31
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kieran491Hi i am having problems with my mythtv box it seems that it is storing incorect data about my tvcards i the database is refering to an adapter1 but this is not even present on my machine i only have adapter0 just wondering if any one has had the same problem and if so how did you fix it?07:39
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mactenchiare the final feisty packages available?07:46
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firekooldoes anyone have any problems keeping interface working well with visulations when listening to music09:27
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lagare10:17
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MythbuntuGuest70Hi folks - got some problems...  I have a wifi card that needs ndiswrapper but it doesn't seem to be installed by default11:36
MythbuntuGuest70how do i go about doing that?  I've got ndiswrapper 1.47 on a usb key and mounted - but make returns errors taht it can't find the kernel build files11:37
MythbuntuGuest70to complicate matters - my hardware network adapter doesn't seem to work so I need to transfer everything by hand to the computer and then install11:37
MythbuntuGuest70how do I do this?11:37
MythbuntuGuest70The plan so far is:11:38
MythbuntuGuest701.  Install ndiswrapper (suprised this isn't installed by default)11:38
MythbuntuGuest702.  Get the wifi card up and running11:38
MythbuntuGuest703.  Install nvidia drivers so I can get tv-out11:39
lagahi MythbuntuGuest7011:43
lagaMythbuntuGuest70: what distro are you using?11:43
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MythbuntuGuest26system cut me off again - I'm a newbie at this...  am still looking for ideas on how to get ndiswrapper installed and made on mythbuntu so that I can get a wifi card up and running (netgear WG311v3)11:52
laga11:32 < laga> MythbuntuGuest70: what distro are you using?11:52
lagaMythbuntuGuest70: ^^11:53
MythbuntuGuest26mythbuntu - which comes with just a simple x implementation and not a full desktop11:53
MythbuntuGuest26make on ndiswrapper fails telling me that it can't find the path to kernel build directory11:55
lagaright12:06
lagalet me start my mythbuntu machine12:06
lagaMythbuntuGuest26: ndiswraper is already installed.12:09
lagaMythbuntuGuest26: maybe you need to install the ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 and ndiswrapper-common package12:09
lagabut the kernel stuff is there.12:09
lagahey, no problem.12:39
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MythbuntuGuest20hi all01:53
MythbuntuGuest20I'v a problem whit the repository01:54
MythbuntuGuest20with apt-get update the computer print this error01:55
MythbuntuGuest20Impossibile ottenere http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/packages/dists/gutsy/mythbuntu/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found01:55
MythbuntuGuest20(impossible to get)01:55
MythbuntuGuest20someone know the new repository or... the way to resolve this error?01:56
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spoky99hi all02:08
spoky99superm1 is not there?02:09
spoky99someone can help me?02:09
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ubotuNew bug: #138247 in lirc (main) "Lirc doesn't support Home-brew serial-port driver Igor Cesko's variation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13824702:45
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Koffais there a simple howto for installing mythbuntu w/ raid1?03:24
lagathat's not possible yet in the installer. you probably have to create the raid1 yourself03:25
KoffaI've created it and tried to skip the installers partitioner - "no rootfs defined"....03:26
lagaodd03:26
lagawhen does that happen?03:26
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MythbuntuGuest68Can anyone tell me if MU has the DVB Firmware for NOVA-T Dib0700?03:31
Koffaafter I leave the installers partitioner... the problem is that the installer asks all the questions and then does the formatting+installing without possibility for user intervention as in normal debian/ubuntu installer03:31
lagawhat's the file name?03:31
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lagaKoffa: can't you just tell the installer to use the file system on the raid 1 and be done with it?03:32
Koffait doesn't see those03:32
lagaoh.03:32
Koffait only shows /dev/sd*, not /dev/md*03:32
laga:/03:32
lagaKoffa: you can install from a gutsy "alternate" cd and install the mythbuntu-related meta packages if you want03:33
mpmcJust a few more questions: Will MU work with my Speed-link remote control, It's a HID03:34
lagampmc: what's the file name for the firmware?03:34
lagampmc: does it work in feisty? if yes, it'll likely work in mythbuntu03:34
mpmcSec.. See If I can remember it.. DVB_Dib0700.01.fw or something like that03:35
mpmcWell.. It's a Windows Media center type remote.03:35
spoky99someone know the repository for mithbuntu gutsy?03:36
spoky99today after one apt-get update..03:36
lagaspoky99: normal ubuntu repository mostly03:36
spoky99http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/packages/dists/gutsy/mythbuntu/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found03:36
Koffalaga :/03:36
lagaspoky99: file a bug report please. shouldn't be too critical since there are no new packages as far as i know03:37
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lagampmc: there are two dvb-dibusb* files in the firmware directory03:38
spoky99sorry03:38
spoky99My english is not good03:38
lagayou can still file a bug report i'm sure03:38
spoky99yess03:38
MythbuntuGuest35Just d/c03:38
spoky99:(03:38
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lagaspoky99: what's the problem?03:39
spoky99I thunk that was more easy.. only to change something into the sources list03:39
spoky99I'm ging to confgure the remote03:39
spoky99going03:39
mpmcDoes MU Have the Nvidia-glx?03:39
spoky99using module-assistant03:40
lagampmc: think of mythbuntu as ubuntu + some extra mythtv love.03:40
lagayes, it has nvidia-glx.03:40
lagaspoky99: what remote?03:40
mpmcGreat, Hopefully i shouldn't have too much trouble with my PCI GFX card lol03:40
spoky99I'have 2 remote.. the first is... not standard.. the second is a  M$03:40
spoky99via usb03:41
lagampmc: just try it. if it doesn't work, you get to complain in the bug tracker. ;)03:41
lagaspoky99: you don't need to install lirc using modules-assistant.03:41
spoky99ah03:41
lagaspoky99: mythbuntu/ubuntu gutsy already comes with the lirc modules.03:41
Koffalaga: so just copy sources.list from this live-cd and get mythbuntu-desktop ?03:41
lagaspoky99: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lirc should do03:42
spoky99I often choose the best difficult way todo something :(03:42
lagaspoky99: you wouldn't have succeeded. as far as i know, the lirc-modules-source package was removed03:42
mpmcWell.. I know I have to configure X after the install.. only issue is Ubuntu attempts to load the xserver, can't & just returns back to the bootscreen. <_<03:42
lagaKoffa: install everything with mythbuntu in the package name03:43
lagampmc: what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?03:43
spoky99I know thta lirc is just into mythbuntu.. but I don't know how make work the remote03:43
mpmcLaga I can fix it.. But I have to go into recovery @ boot.03:43
mpmcWhich is annoying.03:44
mpmcI'm talking about Ubuntu.. Hopefully MU will be better.03:44
spoky99laga: I follow one howto..03:44
lagaspoky99: what howto?03:44
lagalisten, guys.03:44
lagaifn you have a problem and need help, please have the decency of actually describing your problem properly and telling us what you have already done.03:45
lagai can't read minds. yet.03:45
spoky99laga:this http://farrebyc.wordpress.com/2007/08/05/mythtv-su-ubuntu-parte-4/ that is one traslation of this  http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_lirc_install03:45
mpmcSorry.. My fault I talk random garbage.03:45
lagampmc: heh. trying to do too many things at once here so i got annoyed.03:46
lagaspoky99: that howto is outdated.03:46
mpmcNot your fault, laga:03:46
lagaspoky99: you are basically using ubuntu *GUTSY* now, aka ubuntu 7.10.03:47
lagampmc: no worries. i should be friendlier. anyways -what's your problem with X on ubuntu?03:47
lagabrb03:51
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MythbuntuGuest17hello03:52
MythbuntuGuest17anyone here who can help out with a tv out problem?03:55
spoky99laga: were I could found one lirc howto for the  microsoft usb remote in gutsy?03:58
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tgm4883MythbuntuGuest17, what problem04:05
spoky99laga: are you there?04:07
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tgm4883Daviey, you around?04:10
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lagayes04:25
lagaspoky99: maybe on http://help.ubuntu.com04:26
lagaspoky99: but just run sudo dpkg-reconfigure lirc04:26
lagalike i told you one hour ago04:26
spoky99laga:  thaks!04:27
spoky99laga: I'm a newbie ad.. I read a lot before make disaster in my computers :D04:27
MythbuntuGuest17i have an onboard radeon x1250 card and would like to know how to get the tv out to work,..04:27
MythbuntuGuest17the tv is connected, but i would like to know where i can "activate" the tvout04:28
spoky99laga: I also have a lcd that don't work04:28
lagaMythbuntuGuest17: AMDCCLE?04:28
spoky99laga: but... before I wont configure the remote :)04:28
MythbuntuGuest17amdccle?04:29
lagaMythbuntuGuest17: amd catalyst control centre. it's accessible from the mythbuntu control centre04:29
mpmcHi everyone, I have a small issue. I've attempted to run the install (In Safe GFX mode), But I get a message telling me X server can't start & to view the output, which I did, But I cannot see the CLI to use VIM to fix it.. <_<04:31
lagampmc: hit ALT+F2?04:31
tgm4883dang04:31
mpmck hold on04:31
tgm4883laga has already answered all the questions when im like halfway through reading them04:31
tgm4883dang slow reading morning eyes04:32
mpmcLaga: Thanks that did the trick!04:32
MythbuntuGuest17i'll give it a try04:32
lagatgm4883: heh04:33
spoky99laga: I understand that mythbuntu don't work whit gnome.. what use?04:36
tgm4883spoky99, openbox i believe04:37
lagaspoky99: mythbuntu does work with gnome. it just does not come with gnome by default.04:37
mpmcHmm.. I've started X & its running.. But all I see is a Gray-ish colour screen & a right click menu.. but I don't see an install option.04:37
tgm4883dang, even when I beat him he comes out with a better answer04:37
tgm4883i'm going to go take a nap04:37
lagatgm4883: didn't you just get up?04:37
tgm4883yep04:37
lagaslacker04:37
lagai'm fighting the nvidia driver. won't play nice wih my new DFP and the home-brewn tv-out :/04:38
spoky99laga: I'm in a sistem administarator session and.. I don't have the gnome bar..04:38
lagaspoky99: yes. because gnome is not installed. where's the problem?04:38
spoky99ok04:38
lagaspoky99: the next mythbuntu release might include xfce4. it's closer to the gnome 'user experience'04:39
tgm4883mpmc, you're in a regular openbox session04:39
mpmcOK.. I'm lost then :P04:39
tgm4883you may be able to install from there04:39
tgm4883give me a sec to let laga answer you :)04:39
lagaheh04:39
mpmc:P04:40
lagampmc: what have you done now? booted the install disk and fixed X?04:40
tgm4883nah, unless he knows off the top of his head, i need to boot my vm04:40
mpmcLaga yes: I'm running.. But I seen nothing, But a right click menu & I can't access the net ether..04:40
spoky99I try to open System->Administration->Software Sources but.. I don't understand what I could do whitouth gnome bar, I don't know the code for to start it from terminal04:41
lagaspoky99: what are you trying to do?04:41
lagampmc: ok.04:42
lagampmc: how did you start X?04:42
spoky99repare the apt-get update for make one upgrade04:42
mpmclaga: startx command04:42
lagaspoky99: right click on the desktop04:42
spoky99yess.... I tryed it04:42
spoky99I open one terminal04:42
spoky99I open firefox04:43
lagampmc: that's probably not the best choice. try killing X with ctrl+alt+backspace and run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart04:43
lagampmc: or kdm instead of gdm, but gdm ought to work04:43
mpmck04:43
lagaspoky99: so, where is your problem?04:43
spoky99but Obconf and Reconfigure don't work04:43
mpmclaga: Gnome display manager: Fail.04:44
mpmcI'll try kdm04:44
lagaspoky99: "obconf" and "reconfigure" probably work, but they're part of openbox. nothing you should be messing with.04:44
lagaspoky99: what prevents you from just typing in "sudo apt-get update" into the terminal?04:45
mpmclaga: KDM isn't installed / available, Command not found etc..04:45
spoky99laga:  apt-get update print this error04:46
lagampmc: hum.04:46
lagampmc: well, no worries then.04:47
lagampmc: run "startx" again04:47
lagampmc: and execute.. um.... let me find that command04:47
mpmccan't I run the installer from there?04:47
lagampmc: yes, should be possible04:47
lagai just need to find out what command to run04:47
mpmcI'm still pretty new to linux.. But I'm learning loads :)04:48
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lagaspoky99: i'll try to verify your problem04:49
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tgm4883spoky99, what error?04:49
spoky99laga: >http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/packages/dists/gutsy/mythbuntu/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found04:50
mpmcConnection test.04:52
tgm4883spoky99, what alpha are you using?04:52
spoky99laga: (I'm waiting he restart of the computer)04:52
lagampmc: open a terminal and run "sudo -S /usr/bin/ubiquity mythbuntu_ui"04:52
lagampmc: that should work04:52
spoky99I think the first04:52
tgm4883spoky, you have a way old sources.list04:53
spoky99I just upgrade the entre sistem04:53
tgm4883well you need to get the new sources.list, as the error is because that does not exist anymore04:53
mpmclaga: OK I gotta type all that out >.<04:53
lagampmc: it's good exercise for your fingers!04:54
spoky99laga: Impossibile ottenere http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/packages/dists/gutsy/mythbuntu/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found04:54
spoky99Impossibile ottenere http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/packages/dists/gutsy/mythbuntu/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found04:54
spoky99(impossible to get)04:54
tgm4883spoky99, it would be impossible to get something that doesn't exist anymore04:54
spoky99I could fix it?04:55
tgm4883yes04:55
lagaspoky99: i'll upload a current sources.list for you04:55
spoky99I tryed with apt-get -f04:55
tgm4883arg04:55
spoky99laga: where I could get it?04:55
lagaspoky99: www.pastebin.ca/68715404:57
mpmcLaga: Umm.. It didn't run with the mythubuntu_ui param, But has without..04:57
lagampmc: odd.04:57
mpmcoh wait04:57
mpmcI know04:57
tgm4883cd burnt, moving to laptop04:57
mpmcmythUbuntu <_<04:58
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spoky99laga: It work!!!!! thanks!!!05:00
lagaspoky99: cool :)05:00
lagai didn't know you were running such an old release of mythbuntu05:00
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mpmclaga: I'm in in the install process selecting which remote module etc.. But which? the remote is this one, With a USB receiver.. http://images.speed-link.de/prodpics/SL-6399/large/sl-6399_1.jpg05:03
lagampmc: isn't there a MCE remote listed?05:04
tgm4883is that a MCEUSB 1 remote?05:04
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mpmcIt has a USB receiver yes05:04
tgm4883is that a windows media centre remote05:05
tgm4883noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo05:05
mpmcYes, But not M$ branded.05:05
lagabrb, restarting X05:06
tgm4883i just spelled it centre without talking about the control centre.  What has Daviey done!!!05:06
lagatgm4883: 'sup?05:06
lagaheh05:06
tgm4883mpmc, who makes it?05:06
mpmcSpeed-link05:06
mpmchttp://www.speed-link.de/prod.php?lang=de&sys_id=1&pb_id=12&prod_num=SL-639905:06
swhalenhello...xv om playing mythtv shows a blue screen05:07
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mpmcSo would that remote be classed as a MCE remote USB?05:09
tgm4883mpmc, sec05:09
mpmck05:09
tgm4883swhalen, what vid card?05:09
swhalen ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] 05:10
tgm4883mpmc, I would think that it was one of the MCEUSB remotes as it's billed as a MCE remote.  How old is it?05:11
tgm4883swhalen, do you have the restricted drivers enabled or the open source drivers?05:11
mpmcI only got it yesterday..05:11
tgm4883ok05:11
mpmcI'll try it as a MCE old version remote?05:12
tgm4883mpmc, try using the MCEUSB2 remote.  It should be under Windows Media Center MCEUSB2 or something like that05:12
tgm4883no, use the new one05:12
mpmck..05:12
tgm4883_laptopback05:12
swhalentgm4883, there are no restricted for my card. ATI only lies xorg 7.1 for my card. So I use "ati" drivers05:14
mpmcHmm.. Install has frozen.. after I selected install prop' video driver O.O05:16
tgm4883_laptoparg05:16
tgm4883_laptopmpmc, yep05:16
tgm4883_laptopthats a known bug05:16
mpmcrestart install?05:16
tgm4883_laptopthe current fix is to install the prop driver later05:16
tgm4883_laptopyea05:16
mpmclol05:16
mpmck05:16
tgm4883_laptopcheck the list of known alpha 4 bugs at http://www.mythbuntu.org05:17
mpmcWTF WOW05:17
tgm4883_laptopwhat?05:17
swhalenIt there a winpvr card that works with NSCTCC VBI05:17
tgm4883_laptopswhalen, whats NSCTCC VBI05:18
mpmcI ctrl+c'd to kill the installer it asked if I wanted to quit.. But it has loaded the additional driver step page :s05:18
tgm4883_laptophmm05:18
mpmchuh?05:18
mpmclol05:18
mpmcThats madness.05:19
swhalentgm4883_laptop, Closed caption05:19
tgm4883_laptopah05:19
tgm4883_laptopso what is NSCT then?05:20
tgm4883_laptopor is it NTSC?05:20
swhalenNTSC CC, NTSC CC typo05:20
tgm4883_laptopok05:20
swhalenhow did that get typed twice lol05:21
tgm4883_laptopi am not sure swhalen, I don't do much with closed captions05:22
swhalentgm4883_laptop, the vbi works...ut the video flickers05:22
tgm4883_laptoparg05:23
tgm4883_laptoplaga05:23
laga?05:23
tgm4883_laptopmy installer crashed05:23
tgm4883_laptop:(05:23
lagadid you enable vnc?05:23
tgm4883_laptopno05:24
lagapastebin the backtrace and create a b ug report05:24
tgm4883_laptopwell05:24
mpmcWoo Installing!05:24
lagafor some reason, superm1 talked me into taking care of a ubiquity bug. but i don't know python. ;)05:24
tgm4883_laptopit's not like it was an official build or anything, so maybe just some incompatibility with my build05:24
tgm4883_laptopim going to try it one more time to be sure05:25
lagaprobably05:25
lagastill, create a bug report05:25
lagamight be valuable05:25
tgm4883_laptopok05:25
mpmcI like the theme of MU.05:26
mpmcNo crappy blue..05:26
lagatoo grey here ;)05:27
tgm4883_laptopmpmc, are you seeing the new theme or the old one?  The old one was a dark grey05:27
tgm4883_laptop^^ in ubiquity05:27
mpmcdark grey05:27
spoky99laga: I make dpkg-reconfigure and it goes well... tiping irw and hitting on the remote.. recognize the tiping on the remote, Is not necessary copy the .lircrc file o.. I could make it?05:27
tgm4883_laptopah05:28
tgm4883_laptopIMO, the new one is much better05:28
lagaspoky99: install mythbuntu-lirc-generator and run it05:28
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mpmcOh noes.. I'm scared of config files.. They look at me weird.. :(05:29
lagathat's why we make mythbuntu05:30
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mpmcDarn brb.05:30
kieran491hi05:31
tgm4883_laptopheh, I keep trying to use the mouse connected to my mythbuntu box on my laptop05:32
tgm4883_laptophi kieran49105:32
lagahi kieran49105:32
kieran491My mythtv is referaing to one of my TVTuner cards as as adapter1 but it is adapter0 how do you fix this i have tryed just deleteing it but that did not seem to work any ideas on how i can make it work?05:32
lagakieran491: please be more specific. what distro? what capture card? how exactly does this cause problems?05:33
tgm4883_laptopand where does adapter0 or adapter 1 come into play05:34
kieran491i am using mandriva this problem started when i rebooted my machine but it was working before i rebooted05:34
tgm4883_laptopand your using a ubuntu backend?05:34
kieran491nop05:34
lagakieran491: in case you haven't noticed: the channel name "#ubuntu-mythtv" contains the string "ubuntu"05:34
tgm4883_laptopa ubuntu frontend?05:34
kieran491yes....05:34
lagaah.05:34
laganirvana at last05:35
lagakieran491: try #mythtv-users05:35
tgm4883_laptop^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ yep05:35
kieran491that dose not exist many people have refered me to that room05:35
kieran491huh05:35
laga#mythtv-users does exist05:35
kieran491it dose now05:35
tgm4883_laptopkieran491, i would be money that it does05:35
kieran491i have tryed that room in the past and never got it05:35
tgm4883_laptopand has for a long time now05:35
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spoky99someone know how to stop the computer directly from the last menu of mythtv?06:04
spoky99now it restart06:04
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Koffawhich driver should I use for cinergy t2 remote?06:28
superm1tgm4883_laptop, indeed :)06:32
superm1tgm4883_laptop, perhaps we should improve upon that process06:32
superm1although automating it is quite the challenge06:33
superm1Koffa, who makes that remote even, never heard of it06:33
tgm4883_laptopsuperm1, booya!!! firewire in mythbuntu alpha4.206:34
superm1tgm4883_laptop, sweet so we aren't affected by the problems j-rod was having then06:34
superm1awesome06:34
tgm4883_laptopi have no sound06:34
tgm4883_laptopbut that could be any number of reasons06:34
superm1yea06:34
superm1as long as you can capture06:34
superm1that's what matters06:34
tgm4883_laptopoh yea06:34
tgm4883_laptopcartoons06:34
tgm4883_laptopits a real pain though06:34
superm1can you think of what can be done in terms of automating the procedure?06:35
tgm4883_laptopI think it's going to have to be a user input script06:35
tgm4883_laptopwhere we run commands and ask the user to select 1 or 206:35
superm1you mean for like determining ports and such06:35
tgm4883_laptopyea06:35
superm1which one its plugged into06:35
tgm4883_laptopand for downloading and updating the scripts06:36
superm1well honestly, i dont see why myth can't figure that out06:36
superm1you would think it could query the bus06:36
superm1and find it06:36
tgm4883_laptoptrue06:36
tgm4883_laptopI still have the problem with my stb jumping nodes though06:36
tgm4883_laptop:(06:36
superm1perhaps the 'proper' solution is to write a myth patch for that exact purpose06:36
superm1i heard that is resolved in 0.2106:36
superm1dunno where i herad it06:36
superm1or even heard it06:36
tgm4883_laptopI hope so06:36
tgm4883_laptopalthough i doubt it06:36
tgm4883_laptopas it seems to be in the stack06:37
tgm4883_laptopnot mythtv related06:37
superm1well but i heard that myth can get along around that06:37
superm1in 0.2106:37
superm1so perhaps it does query the bus06:37
tgm4883_laptopalthough there is a firewire_reset in .2106:37
superm1and determine where the box is06:37
tgm4883_laptopheh06:38
tgm4883_laptopHD runs like crap right now06:38
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superm1can you respond to laga's post so people on the ML know?06:39
tgm4883_laptopyep06:39
superm1i added your "Quit" button to the control centre06:39
superm1i'm just testing a few more patches towards it06:39
superm1and then i06:39
superm1'll push it up06:39
tgm4883_laptopsweet06:43
tgm4883_laptopsuperm1, I was wondering, would it be bad to add the firewire parts to the main backend script?06:43
Koffasuperm1: terratec?06:43
superm1tgm4883_laptop, how so?06:43
superm1like priming stuff?06:43
tgm4883_laptopyea06:43
tgm4883_laptopI suppose it would be06:43
superm1Koffa, hm.  i guess i still haven't heard of that brand.  I've no idea what driver it should be using.  I'd have to say /query lirc-list mailing list06:44
superm1tgm4883_laptop, what about people not doing firewire then?06:44
tgm4883_laptopthats what i was thinking, if it would be bad for them06:44
superm1maybe it'd make sense to add a configuration item in like /etc/default/mythtv-backend06:44
tgm4883_laptopand I think it would06:44
superm1FIREWIRE=True06:44
tgm4883_laptophmm06:44
superm1and then that turns on all the firewire toys06:44
tgm4883_laptopthat would fix a lot of the setup06:45
superm1what items need to be put in there exactly?06:45
superm1do you know?06:45
tgm4883_laptopyea06:45
tgm4883_laptopi just followed the feisty firewire guide06:45
tgm4883_laptopand really06:45
superm1well if you want to write a patch for it, i'd be glad to sponsor something sane06:45
tgm4883_laptopi think you can d/l the firewire backend script06:46
tgm4883_laptopso06:46
tgm4883_laptoplet me think of a few different plans for this06:46
tgm4883_laptopI think the problem is that there are a few things that need compiled06:47
superm1well compiling more stuff isn't too big a deal06:47
superm1can always ship more of the contrib directory06:47
superm1with mythtv-backend perhaps06:47
tgm4883_laptopyea, but we would also need build essential on the cd06:48
tgm4883_laptophow much free space is there?06:48
superm1well there is plenty of free space, but i'm saying if its precompiled06:48
superm1in the package06:48
tgm4883_laptopah06:48
superm1so in the mythtv package06:48
superm1its shipped06:48
tgm4883_laptopsounds good06:48
tgm4883_laptopcause there are 2 things to compile06:48
tgm4883_laptopwtf06:49
tgm4883_laptopi'm watching a strange Dell commercial with no sound in HD with no proprietary drivers installed06:49
superm1http://www.imagehosting.com/show.php/1116043_addons.png.html06:53
superm1anything more to add to that page?06:53
tgm4883_laptopnope looks good06:55
tgm4883_laptopis there going to be a different terminal in the future?06:55
superm1yes06:55
tgm4883_laptopgood06:55
superm1as soon as DaveMorris completes the switch to xubuntu window manager06:55
superm1xfce4-terminal will be there06:55
tgm4883_laptopi despise the current terminal06:55
superm1currently that button looks for xfce4-terminal primarily, then gnome-terminal, then konsole, and then lastly xterm06:55
superm1problem though is it spawns a root terminal06:56
superm1which probably isn't a good idea06:56
tgm4883_laptopprobably not06:56
tgm4883_laptopwait06:57
tgm4883_laptopdid you want to add buttons for the things we need for firewire?06:58
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superm1well we could do that07:09
Koffa*snap*07:11
superm1mornin DaveMorris07:13
DaveMorrissuperm1: I'm having a senior moment, how do you checkout the branch again?07:13
superm1bzr co http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-default-settings07:14
superm1if you want to get mythbuntu-default-settings07:14
superm1now if you want to be able to commit to it07:14
superm1you can do it like this07:14
superm1bzr co sftp://USER@bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-default-settings07:14
DaveMorrisyeah I wanted to checkout so I can commit as wel07:14
superm1where USER is your LP username07:14
DaveMorrisbzr: ERROR: Unsupported protocol for url "sftp://dave-greenacre@bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-default-settings": Unable to import paramiko (required for sftp support): No module named paramiko07:15
superm1you need to install paramiko07:15
DaveMorrisI don't remember doing it before07:16
superm1sudo apt-get install python-paramiko07:16
DaveMorrisI'm already ahead of you07:16
superm1its what is used to do a sftp or bzr+ssh commit07:16
DaveMorristhanks :)07:17
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ubotuNew bug: #135199 in mythplugins (multiverse) "dependency conflict (mythmusic and mythtv) 0.20.2" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13519908:10
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DaveMorrishttp://pastebin.com/m7100a932 - anyone got any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?  It works on my amd64 machine09:19
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DaveMorrissuperm1:  http://pastebin.com/m7100a932 - anyone got any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?  It works on my amd64 machine10:13
superm1DaveMorris, what did you change?10:14
superm1anything?10:14
DaveMorrisnothing10:14
DaveMorrisapart from the mirror and the place to save it to10:14
superm1what is your BASE_INSTALL10:15
superm1set to?10:15
DaveMorris  BASE_INSTALL='/tmp/mythbuntu_iso'10:16
superm1it looks like well it didn't debootstrap10:16
superm1do you not have debootstrap installed?10:16
DaveMorrisit's installed, or do I need a gutsy veersion10:17
superm1yes you need the gutsy version10:17
superm1# Requirements:10:17
superm1# * Root permissions10:17
superm1# * debootstrap taken from ubuntu/main of the target Ubuntu release10:17
superm1:)10:17
DaveMorrishow do I install that on a feisty system?10:18
superm1go to packages.ubuntu.com10:18
superm1and grab the gutsy version10:18
superm1and just dpkg -i it10:18
DaveMorrisok10:18
superm1its just a script, so it doesnt need to be rebuilt for feisty10:18
DaveMorristhats fixed the problem thanks10:24
DaveMorrisenjoying your day then superm1?10:26
superm1DaveMorris, yeah10:27
superm1nice relaxing day for a change of pace10:27
superm1do you need to know how to do a PPA build of mythbuntu-default-settings now?10:27
DaveMorrissounds good,10:27
superm1er well did you join the lp beta team yet?10:27
DaveMorrisI might  as well learn, not sure if I'#ve been added yet10:28
DaveMorrisnot a member yet10:29
superm1ah okay10:29
superm1well for now you can just copy the files in via the build script10:29
superm1you can see how it copies a few of them in10:29
superm1or you can just do it post env10:29
DaveMorrisok I'll have a look in the script to see how it's donee10:30
superm1but as for when PPA does get added to your account, what you need to do is bump the version number of the package10:31
superm1so you can do that like this:10:31
superm1dch -v 0.55-0ubuntu1~mythbuntu110:31
superm1and that will give it a sane version number for the PPA10:31
superm1its always very very important that your version number includes a ~mythbuntuX or ~ppaX10:32
DaveMorrisDo I need to add my ppa url tot the script as weell10:32
superm1so that the one in the archive will always take prirority10:32
superm1well you can push to the team ppa10:32
superm1once you are setup10:32
DaveMorrissounds good10:32
superm1to push to the ppa, you need to edit /etc/dput.cf10:33
superm1add this section10:33
superm1[ppa-mythbuntu] 10:33
superm1fqdn = ppa.launchpad.net10:33
superm1incoming = ~mythbuntu/ubuntu10:33
superm1login = anonymous10:33
superm1and then when you build your source package, build it like this10:33
superm1debuild -S -sa10:33
superm1and then to push to the PPA10:33
superm1you will do10:33
superm1dput ppa-mythbuntu FILE.changes10:33
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superm1well that should be the jist of it10:34
DavieyHey, do you think mythbuntu could be considered of use to academic users?10:36
superm1how so?10:36
Davieyhttp://www.mirrorservice.org/10:36
DaveMorrisworth a try10:37
DavieyThey seem to mirror nearly everything on sourceforge mind10:37
DaveMorrisas they can use it to record shows for use in classes in schools/colleges/uni's10:37
superm1well wouldn't hurt to try10:37
superm1ya10:37
DavieyWhich category tho?10:38
Davieyhttp://www.mirrorservice.org/Help/FeedBack/Mirror10:38
DaveMorristeching and computing resourcees10:39
DavieyHelps users learn the internal's of linux aswell :P10:40
DavieyMind you, if we get it into sourceforge - then it seems to automatically get mirrored by loads of mirrors.10:40
DavieyShould i do that?10:41
superm1Computing Applications/Utilities10:41
superm1sourceforge doesn't host ISOs though do they?10:41
Davieyyep10:41
DavieyAsterisk@Home used to be on sourceforge10:41
DavieyThat was an iso10:41
DaveMorristbh staying away from sourceforge would be better10:42
superm1well why didn't we think of this before then?10:42
superm1why?10:42
DaveMorrismore cocntrol if we do it10:42
Davieysourceforge _can_ have a bad reputation.. but we wouldn't link users to it - just the mirrors it rsync's with10:42
DaveMorrisbtw if you worried about bandwidth just limit direct downloads to 50KBp/s and people will torrent it instead10:42
Davieybad reputation for poor quality software..10:42
DavieyDaveMorris: or not bother downloading10:43
DavieyStrangly, so many people don't know how to torrent10:43
DaveMorrisor 100 then10:43
DaveMorrisyou can still download, it just takes longer10:43
DavieyYeah, but surely we want to make it easier to downlaod - more accessible10:43
DaveMorristbh I tend not to torrent as it's  quicker to download directly10:44
superm1well once elmo gets us an ubuntu.com mirror place10:44
superm1i think we will not have any more worries10:44
Daviey_can_ be, but a well seeded torrent will always win10:44
DavieyOkay.. i'll try and chase elmo again10:44
DaveMorrisit still takes time to get starting imo10:44
DavieyI told elmo that we were peaking combined of the mirrors 80Gb/Day, steadily sropping off after the new release10:46
DavieyHe didn't seem shocked by that10:46
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DavieyWow.. My torrent client can see 422 other seeders.10:55
DavieyOnly the FOSS community seed like that!10:55
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cornellI've asked this in #ubuntu and am not getting an answer...  So I'm going to ask here...12:05
cornellI've a Dell Optiplex, I've tried to put Feisty on it.  Wouldn't boot, I'm reinstalling, I noticed in the partitioning... It wants to partition SCSI1 (0.0.0) (sda) - 40.0GB ATA ST340016A...   Isn't SCSI, um, not ATA?12:05
DaveMorrissata devices appear as scsi devices12:06
cornellYes... but wouldn't a SATA be called a SATA, not ATA?12:08
DaveMorrisshould be12:08
cornellThe documentation doesn't mention "serial" or "parallel", the photo of how to install appears to show plugging into an IDE type connector12:10
DaveMorrisI read somewhere that they are gonna start labelling hard drives on /dev/hdx as /dev/sdx12:11
cornellI mean, SATA connectors are visually different than PATA.12:11
tgm4883_laptop_DaveMorris, they already do12:11
tgm4883_laptop_actually, they are going to be using UUID instead of /dev/sdx12:12
cornellOk, but, if it's saying it's SCSI, is it trying to work with a SCSI drive, which isn't, and would that be a problem?12:12
tgm4883_laptop_well12:12
tgm4883_laptop_you could unplug any other hard drives12:13
tgm4883_laptop_then try installing12:13
cornellThere are no other harddrives12:13
tgm4883_laptop_ah12:13
tgm4883_laptop_i think your fine12:13
DaveMorristhe install should be fine12:13
cornellSee.... installation goes smoothly, but then... I can't boot.   I get the POST, grub says it's loading... blank screen, harddrive activity, but no cli or x ?12:14
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cornellWell... actually, sometimes... there's like colored "static" lines that show up for a bit along the bottom.12:16
yotuxhello everyone12:16
yotuxIs mythbuntu going to be like LinuxMCE?12:16
superm1yotux, well what do you mean by "like"?12:18
yotuxLinuxMCE has a complete media package, DVD, TV Music etc12:19
yotuxI can't get threw the list of features and get my PVR-150 to work12:19
superm1well mythbuntu does come with plugins installed for all the features like that12:19
superm1they are all optional12:20
yotuxIn fiesty It works great,  I built a new system to be media center for my house12:20
superm1you cant get through the list of features in mythbuntu?12:20
yotuxLinuxMCE has list and layers of stuff12:21
yotuxI am new to Mythtv & the whole live tv idea I am sorry'12:21
superm1well linuxmce uses mythtv for its tv portion anyhow, so it shouldnt be much new to you12:21
DaveMorrisdoes LinuxMCE do PVR with multiple frontends off the same backends12:21
yotuxDave-  I am not sure,  I can not get my PVR-150 to get a feed in LinuxMCE12:22
cornellTTFN12:23
yotuxsuperm1 - Would it be ok to download an ISO for Mythbuntu to just play with?12:23
superm1yea of course :)12:23
superm1just watch out, there are a few known issues with the installer (they are detailed on the front page of mythbuntu.org)12:24
superm1as long as your aware of those, things should go fine12:24
yotuxI know that your site was saying it only has one mirror so I don;t want to take bandwith that is valued like gold12:24
superm1well we've gotten a few more mirrors since then12:25
yotuxcool12:25
superm1when you click the download link, you'll get redirected to a random US one if your US bound, and a uk one otherwise12:25
yotuxyeah I am State side for this week12:26
yotuxtravel allot12:26
yotuxx86 a better choice of the two?12:27
superm1should be the same basic thing either way12:27
superm1if your just playing i would say go x8612:27
yotuxhoping this will fill my need for media center12:28
yotuxIf I like this OS allot can I mirror it?12:28
superm1sure, we appreciate any mirrors we can get :)12:29
superm1where would your mirror be located?12:29
yotuxI am getting 152k12:29
yotuxData center out of CO12:29
superm1no mirrors in CO yet, so that would be good.12:30
yotuxaverage download out of there is around 500kb/sec12:30
yotuxthat just for me thought ymmv12:31
superm1well if we'll be adding you as a mirror, then we'd make you us-co.weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org12:31
superm1so just let us know12:31
DaveMorrisI've had 4000kb/s out of the UK one :)12:31
DaveMorristhanks to my fast connection at work :)12:33
yotuxok12:33
yotuxmy dl is going a little slow :( all go things take time they tel me12:33
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superm1Daviey, we are pushing out more than 80GB/day12:39
superm1just today so far its at 9612:39

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