=== Ublender [n=Ublender@adsl-068-209-130-040.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === ublender_ [n=Ublender@adsl-068-209-130-040.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === dfear [n=dfear@82-46-27-208.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === ublender__ [n=Ublender@adsl-068-209-130-040.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Ublender [n=Ublender@adsl-068-209-130-040.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Tari [n=Tari@CPE-72-133-204-1.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === ublender_ [n=Ublender@adsl-068-209-130-040.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === cooper77 [n=ep@siouxfallsDHCP-62.216-254-234.iw.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === OpenMedia [n=steve@60-234-129-166.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === ian_001 [n=ian@ool-457d7cbf.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:55] is there a reason when i press "play online steams" it does nothing? [04:56] im trying to access mythstream, i've added streams to the list but i cant access the actual fnuctionality [05:01] I don't know [05:01] maybe the logs can enlighten you further [05:02] how do i access the logs? [05:03] or which ones should i be looking at? whats interesting is "mythfrontend stream" works from the command line [05:05] ian_001, I didn't really play around with it that much, but wondered the same thing [05:05] have you tried known working streams? [05:06] yeah the plugin works just fine, if i typed "mythfrontend stream" at the command line it works perfectly, but if i load just mythfrontend and click "play online streams' it just sits there and does nothing [05:06] i think i finally found a bug about it [05:06] but it seems to be an edgy issue [05:06] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythstream/+bug/136483 [05:06] Launchpad bug 136483 in mythbuntu "mythstream-0.17.2 fails to load in mythtv-0.20.2" [Medium,Fix committed] [05:07] ian_001, no thats a different bug [05:07] you couldn't even get into mythstream with that [05:07] i cant [05:07] thats my problem [05:07] oh [05:07] but just like in the bug report, using "myfrontend stream" i can [05:08] so, when you try to go into mythstream nothing happens? [05:09] yes, if i start mythtv with just "mythfrontend" [05:10] are you starting it from the terminal (mythfrontend that is) [05:10] i dont nomrally but since i am having this problem, yes [05:10] if i just boot the machine it has the same problem though [05:10] ok [05:11] then start it from the terminal, try to access mythstream, then exit. See if it gives you an error in the terminal [05:11] perfect, Unable to initialize plugin 'mythtream'. [05:12] do you have any idea where i would find that string to fix it? [05:12] perfect [05:12] that is the exact problem that the above mentioned bug is [05:12] now the question remains to why it hasn't been fixed in edgy [05:13] unfortunatly superm1, who fixed it, is not around right now [05:14] just to clarify a possible miscommunication, i am using the latest MythBuntu from Sept 1 [05:14] ah [05:14] even better [05:15] you need to apt-get update then apt-get upgrade [05:15] as it has been fixed for mythbuntu [05:15] I don't know why I thought you were using edgy [05:15] i mentioned it above thinking this problem had been fixed in edgy but i had misread, my fault [05:15] ah [05:16] I misread your post too [05:16] i live in complete fear of apt-get update though because it always breaks my remote [05:16] hmm [05:16] i can wait for the next build [05:16] well [05:17] what remote? [05:17] hauppauge [05:17] 150 tuner card [05:17] you may just be able to fix it (if it breaks) in the control centre [05:18] with the previous mythbuntu alpha that didnt work, i wonder where that string is stored though .. since its a plugin you would think it just gets registered in a configuration file somewhere [05:19] ??, the control centre was just added to alpha 4 [05:19] with that being said, there is a lircd.conf file and a .lircrc file [05:20] i had the remote problem using alpha 3 and came here and the path i was sent on was gui based so i just presumed it was the control center [05:20] the problem would be the driver wouldnt load correctly [05:21] at least with alpha 3 [05:21] laga, if you're around, i'm going to do more testing on the firewire right after I build a new disk with updates [05:21] interesting [05:21] you may be able to just update the package that was broken, although im not sure which one that is [05:22] sounds like a good plan, i think i might poke around a little bit, wouldnt hurt for me to learn smoething [05:23] yeah! [05:23] i just did 'sudo cp libmythstream.so liblibmythtream.so' and now it works [05:23] There is also a list of known bugs for alpha 4 at http://www.mythbuntu.org/ [05:23] i know its a terrible hack [05:24] yep [05:24] that does work [05:24] also a sym link [05:24] oh a symlink owuld have been a much more linux solution! i should try that [05:25] although, I believe that it still wont work as there is also the issue of mythtream [05:25] it loaded perfectly for me === sslashes [i=sslashes@209.67.252.122] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:31] any idea why mythmusic visualizations would not work? === kieran491 [n=ehh@c211-28-159-50.brasd1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:39] Hi i am having problems with my mythtv box it seems that it is storing incorect data about my tvcards i the database is refering to an adapter1 but this is not even present on my machine i only have adapter0 just wondering if any one has had the same problem and if so how did you fix it? === mactenchi [n=chatzill@c-24-5-11-111.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:46] are the final feisty packages available? === MythbuntuGuest31 [i=Mythbunt@a010834013.dorms.usu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === firekool [n=IceChat7@c-67-172-250-185.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:27] does anyone have any problems keeping interface working well with visulations when listening to music === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [10:17] re === kieran491 [n=ehh@c211-28-159-50.brasd1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === MythbuntuGuest26 [n=Mythbunt@e178224039.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MythbuntuGuest70 [n=Mythbunt@80.78.19.130] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:36] Hi folks - got some problems... I have a wifi card that needs ndiswrapper but it doesn't seem to be installed by default [11:37] how do i go about doing that? I've got ndiswrapper 1.47 on a usb key and mounted - but make returns errors taht it can't find the kernel build files [11:37] to complicate matters - my hardware network adapter doesn't seem to work so I need to transfer everything by hand to the computer and then install [11:37] how do I do this? [11:38] The plan so far is: [11:38] 1. Install ndiswrapper (suprised this isn't installed by default) [11:38] 2. Get the wifi card up and running [11:39] 3. Install nvidia drivers so I can get tv-out [11:43] hi MythbuntuGuest70 [11:43] MythbuntuGuest70: what distro are you using? === MythbuntuGuest26 [n=Mythbunt@80.78.19.130] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:52] system cut me off again - I'm a newbie at this... am still looking for ideas on how to get ndiswrapper installed and made on mythbuntu so that I can get a wifi card up and running (netgear WG311v3) [11:52] 11:32 < laga> MythbuntuGuest70: what distro are you using? [11:53] MythbuntuGuest70: ^^ [11:53] mythbuntu - which comes with just a simple x implementation and not a full desktop [11:55] make on ndiswrapper fails telling me that it can't find the path to kernel build directory [12:06] right [12:06] let me start my mythbuntu machine [12:09] MythbuntuGuest26: ndiswraper is already installed. [12:09] MythbuntuGuest26: maybe you need to install the ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 and ndiswrapper-common package [12:09] but the kernel stuff is there. [12:39] hey, no problem. === MythbuntuGuest20 [n=Mythbunt@85-18-47-196.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:53] hi all [01:54] I'v a problem whit the repository [01:55] with apt-get update the computer print this error [01:55] Impossibile ottenere http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/packages/dists/gutsy/mythbuntu/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [01:55] (impossible to get) [01:56] someone know the new repository or... the way to resolve this error? === spoky99 [n=spoky99@85-18-47-196.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:08] hi all [02:09] superm1 is not there? [02:09] someone can help me? === kabtoffe [n=kbergstr@MMMV.gprs.saunalahti.fi] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === BiohaZd [n=biohazd@cpc1-nwrk2-0-0-cust591.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:45] New bug: #138247 in lirc (main) "Lirc doesn't support Home-brew serial-port driver Igor Cesko's variation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138247 === BiohaZd [n=biohazd@cpc1-nwrk2-0-0-cust591.nott.cable.ntl.com] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === Koffa [i=jkohvakk@aulis.sange.fi] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:24] is there a simple howto for installing mythbuntu w/ raid1? [03:25] that's not possible yet in the installer. you probably have to create the raid1 yourself [03:26] I've created it and tried to skip the installers partitioner - "no rootfs defined".... [03:26] odd [03:26] when does that happen? === MythbuntuGuest68 [n=Mythbunt@cpc1-lich7-0-0-cust734.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:31] Can anyone tell me if MU has the DVB Firmware for NOVA-T Dib0700? [03:31] after I leave the installers partitioner... the problem is that the installer asks all the questions and then does the formatting+installing without possibility for user intervention as in normal debian/ubuntu installer [03:31] what's the file name? === MythbuntuGuest68 is now known as mpmc [03:32] Koffa: can't you just tell the installer to use the file system on the raid 1 and be done with it? [03:32] it doesn't see those [03:32] oh. [03:32] it only shows /dev/sd*, not /dev/md* [03:32] :/ [03:33] Koffa: you can install from a gutsy "alternate" cd and install the mythbuntu-related meta packages if you want [03:34] Just a few more questions: Will MU work with my Speed-link remote control, It's a HID [03:34] mpmc: what's the file name for the firmware? [03:34] mpmc: does it work in feisty? if yes, it'll likely work in mythbuntu [03:35] Sec.. See If I can remember it.. DVB_Dib0700.01.fw or something like that [03:35] Well.. It's a Windows Media center type remote. [03:36] someone know the repository for mithbuntu gutsy? [03:36] today after one apt-get update.. [03:36] spoky99: normal ubuntu repository mostly [03:36] http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/packages/dists/gutsy/mythbuntu/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [03:36] laga :/ [03:37] spoky99: file a bug report please. shouldn't be too critical since there are no new packages as far as i know === MythbuntuGuest35 [n=Mythbunt@cpc1-lich7-0-0-cust734.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:38] mpmc: there are two dvb-dibusb* files in the firmware directory [03:38] sorry [03:38] My english is not good [03:38] you can still file a bug report i'm sure [03:38] yess [03:38] Just d/c [03:38] :( === MythbuntuGuest35 is now known as mpmc [03:39] spoky99: what's the problem? [03:39] I thunk that was more easy.. only to change something into the sources list [03:39] I'm ging to confgure the remote [03:39] going [03:39] Does MU Have the Nvidia-glx? [03:40] using module-assistant [03:40] mpmc: think of mythbuntu as ubuntu + some extra mythtv love. [03:40] yes, it has nvidia-glx. [03:40] spoky99: what remote? [03:40] Great, Hopefully i shouldn't have too much trouble with my PCI GFX card lol [03:40] I'have 2 remote.. the first is... not standard.. the second is a M$ [03:41] via usb [03:41] mpmc: just try it. if it doesn't work, you get to complain in the bug tracker. ;) [03:41] spoky99: you don't need to install lirc using modules-assistant. [03:41] ah [03:41] spoky99: mythbuntu/ubuntu gutsy already comes with the lirc modules. [03:41] laga: so just copy sources.list from this live-cd and get mythbuntu-desktop ? [03:42] spoky99: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lirc should do [03:42] I often choose the best difficult way todo something :( [03:42] spoky99: you wouldn't have succeeded. as far as i know, the lirc-modules-source package was removed [03:42] Well.. I know I have to configure X after the install.. only issue is Ubuntu attempts to load the xserver, can't & just returns back to the bootscreen. <_< [03:43] Koffa: install everything with mythbuntu in the package name [03:43] mpmc: what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say? [03:43] I know thta lirc is just into mythbuntu.. but I don't know how make work the remote [03:43] Laga I can fix it.. But I have to go into recovery @ boot. [03:44] Which is annoying. [03:44] I'm talking about Ubuntu.. Hopefully MU will be better. [03:44] laga: I follow one howto.. [03:44] spoky99: what howto? [03:44] listen, guys. [03:45] ifn you have a problem and need help, please have the decency of actually describing your problem properly and telling us what you have already done. [03:45] i can't read minds. yet. [03:45] laga:this http://farrebyc.wordpress.com/2007/08/05/mythtv-su-ubuntu-parte-4/ that is one traslation of this http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_lirc_install [03:45] Sorry.. My fault I talk random garbage. [03:46] mpmc: heh. trying to do too many things at once here so i got annoyed. [03:46] spoky99: that howto is outdated. [03:46] Not your fault, laga: [03:47] spoky99: you are basically using ubuntu *GUTSY* now, aka ubuntu 7.10. [03:47] mpmc: no worries. i should be friendlier. anyways -what's your problem with X on ubuntu? [03:51] brb === MythbuntuGuest17 [n=Mythbunt@236.77-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:52] hello [03:55] anyone here who can help out with a tv out problem? [03:58] laga: were I could found one lirc howto for the microsoft usb remote in gutsy? === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:05] MythbuntuGuest17, what problem [04:07] laga: are you there? === Tari_ [n=Tari@CPE-72-133-204-1.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:10] Daviey, you around? === kabtoffe [n=kbergstr@hoas-fe2add00-192.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:25] yes [04:26] spoky99: maybe on http://help.ubuntu.com [04:26] spoky99: but just run sudo dpkg-reconfigure lirc [04:26] like i told you one hour ago [04:27] laga: thaks! [04:27] laga: I'm a newbie ad.. I read a lot before make disaster in my computers :D [04:27] i have an onboard radeon x1250 card and would like to know how to get the tv out to work,.. [04:28] the tv is connected, but i would like to know where i can "activate" the tvout [04:28] laga: I also have a lcd that don't work [04:28] MythbuntuGuest17: AMDCCLE? [04:28] laga: but... before I wont configure the remote :) [04:29] amdccle? [04:29] MythbuntuGuest17: amd catalyst control centre. it's accessible from the mythbuntu control centre [04:31] Hi everyone, I have a small issue. I've attempted to run the install (In Safe GFX mode), But I get a message telling me X server can't start & to view the output, which I did, But I cannot see the CLI to use VIM to fix it.. <_< [04:31] mpmc: hit ALT+F2? [04:31] dang [04:31] k hold on [04:31] laga has already answered all the questions when im like halfway through reading them [04:32] dang slow reading morning eyes [04:32] Laga: Thanks that did the trick! [04:32] i'll give it a try [04:33] tgm4883: heh [04:36] laga: I understand that mythbuntu don't work whit gnome.. what use? [04:37] spoky99, openbox i believe [04:37] spoky99: mythbuntu does work with gnome. it just does not come with gnome by default. [04:37] Hmm.. I've started X & its running.. But all I see is a Gray-ish colour screen & a right click menu.. but I don't see an install option. [04:37] dang, even when I beat him he comes out with a better answer [04:37] i'm going to go take a nap [04:37] tgm4883: didn't you just get up? [04:37] yep [04:37] slacker [04:38] i'm fighting the nvidia driver. won't play nice wih my new DFP and the home-brewn tv-out :/ [04:38] laga: I'm in a sistem administarator session and.. I don't have the gnome bar.. [04:38] spoky99: yes. because gnome is not installed. where's the problem? [04:38] ok [04:39] spoky99: the next mythbuntu release might include xfce4. it's closer to the gnome 'user experience' [04:39] mpmc, you're in a regular openbox session [04:39] OK.. I'm lost then :P [04:39] you may be able to install from there [04:39] give me a sec to let laga answer you :) [04:39] heh [04:40] :P [04:40] mpmc: what have you done now? booted the install disk and fixed X? [04:40] nah, unless he knows off the top of his head, i need to boot my vm [04:40] Laga yes: I'm running.. But I seen nothing, But a right click menu & I can't access the net ether.. [04:41] I try to open System->Administration->Software Sources but.. I don't understand what I could do whitouth gnome bar, I don't know the code for to start it from terminal [04:41] spoky99: what are you trying to do? [04:42] mpmc: ok. [04:42] mpmc: how did you start X? [04:42] repare the apt-get update for make one upgrade [04:42] laga: startx command [04:42] spoky99: right click on the desktop [04:42] yess.... I tryed it [04:42] I open one terminal [04:43] I open firefox [04:43] mpmc: that's probably not the best choice. try killing X with ctrl+alt+backspace and run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart [04:43] mpmc: or kdm instead of gdm, but gdm ought to work [04:43] k [04:43] spoky99: so, where is your problem? [04:43] but Obconf and Reconfigure don't work [04:44] laga: Gnome display manager: Fail. [04:44] I'll try kdm [04:44] spoky99: "obconf" and "reconfigure" probably work, but they're part of openbox. nothing you should be messing with. [04:45] spoky99: what prevents you from just typing in "sudo apt-get update" into the terminal? [04:45] laga: KDM isn't installed / available, Command not found etc.. [04:46] laga: apt-get update print this error [04:46] mpmc: hum. [04:47] mpmc: well, no worries then. [04:47] mpmc: run "startx" again [04:47] mpmc: and execute.. um.... let me find that command [04:47] can't I run the installer from there? [04:47] mpmc: yes, should be possible [04:47] i just need to find out what command to run [04:48] I'm still pretty new to linux.. But I'm learning loads :) === MythbuntuGuest21 [n=Mythbunt@c-cf73e455.139-5-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:49] spoky99: i'll try to verify your problem === MythbuntuGuest21 [n=Mythbunt@c-cf73e455.139-5-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === MythbuntuGuest86 [n=Mythbunt@c-cf73e455.139-5-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:49] spoky99, what error? [04:50] laga: > http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/packages/dists/gutsy/mythbuntu/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [04:52] Connection test. [04:52] spoky99, what alpha are you using? [04:52] laga: (I'm waiting he restart of the computer) [04:52] mpmc: open a terminal and run "sudo -S /usr/bin/ubiquity mythbuntu_ui" [04:52] mpmc: that should work [04:52] I think the first [04:53] spoky, you have a way old sources.list [04:53] I just upgrade the entre sistem [04:53] well you need to get the new sources.list, as the error is because that does not exist anymore [04:53] laga: OK I gotta type all that out >.< [04:54] mpmc: it's good exercise for your fingers! [04:54] laga: Impossibile ottenere http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/packages/dists/gutsy/mythbuntu/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [04:54] Impossibile ottenere http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/packages/dists/gutsy/mythbuntu/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found [04:54] (impossible to get) [04:54] spoky99, it would be impossible to get something that doesn't exist anymore [04:55] I could fix it? [04:55] yes [04:55] spoky99: i'll upload a current sources.list for you [04:55] I tryed with apt-get -f [04:55] arg [04:55] laga: where I could get it? [04:57] spoky99: www.pastebin.ca/687154 [04:57] Laga: Umm.. It didn't run with the mythubuntu_ui param, But has without.. [04:57] mpmc: odd. [04:57] oh wait [04:57] I know [04:57] cd burnt, moving to laptop [04:58] mythUbuntu <_< === kieran491 [n=ehh@c211-28-159-50.brasd1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:00] laga: It work!!!!! thanks!!! [05:00] spoky99: cool :) [05:00] i didn't know you were running such an old release of mythbuntu === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:03] laga: I'm in in the install process selecting which remote module etc.. But which? the remote is this one, With a USB receiver.. http://images.speed-link.de/prodpics/SL-6399/large/sl-6399_1.jpg [05:04] mpmc: isn't there a MCE remote listed? [05:04] is that a MCEUSB 1 remote? === swhalen [n=swhalen@cpe-65-31-5-179.insight.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:04] It has a USB receiver yes [05:05] is that a windows media centre remote [05:05] noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo [05:05] Yes, But not M$ branded. [05:06] brb, restarting X [05:06] i just spelled it centre without talking about the control centre. What has Daviey done!!! [05:06] tgm4883: 'sup? [05:06] heh [05:06] mpmc, who makes it? [05:06] Speed-link [05:06] http://www.speed-link.de/prod.php?lang=de&sys_id=1&pb_id=12&prod_num=SL-6399 [05:07] hello...xv om playing mythtv shows a blue screen === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:09] So would that remote be classed as a MCE remote USB? [05:09] mpmc, sec [05:09] k [05:09] swhalen, what vid card? [05:10] ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] [05:11] mpmc, I would think that it was one of the MCEUSB remotes as it's billed as a MCE remote. How old is it? [05:11] swhalen, do you have the restricted drivers enabled or the open source drivers? [05:11] I only got it yesterday.. [05:11] ok [05:12] I'll try it as a MCE old version remote? [05:12] mpmc, try using the MCEUSB2 remote. It should be under Windows Media Center MCEUSB2 or something like that [05:12] no, use the new one [05:12] k.. [05:12] back [05:14] tgm4883, there are no restricted for my card. ATI only lies xorg 7.1 for my card. So I use "ati" drivers [05:16] Hmm.. Install has frozen.. after I selected install prop' video driver O.O [05:16] arg [05:16] mpmc, yep [05:16] thats a known bug [05:16] restart install? [05:16] the current fix is to install the prop driver later [05:16] yea [05:16] lol [05:16] k [05:17] check the list of known alpha 4 bugs at http://www.mythbuntu.org [05:17] WTF WOW [05:17] what? [05:17] It there a winpvr card that works with NSCTCC VBI [05:18] swhalen, whats NSCTCC VBI [05:18] I ctrl+c'd to kill the installer it asked if I wanted to quit.. But it has loaded the additional driver step page :s [05:18] hmm [05:18] huh? [05:18] lol [05:19] Thats madness. [05:19] tgm4883_laptop, Closed caption [05:19] ah [05:20] so what is NSCT then? [05:20] or is it NTSC? [05:20] NTSC CC, NTSC CC typo [05:20] ok [05:21] how did that get typed twice lol [05:22] i am not sure swhalen, I don't do much with closed captions [05:22] tgm4883_laptop, the vbi works...ut the video flickers [05:23] arg [05:23] laga [05:23] ? [05:23] my installer crashed [05:23] :( [05:23] did you enable vnc? [05:24] no [05:24] pastebin the backtrace and create a b ug report [05:24] well [05:24] Woo Installing! [05:24] for some reason, superm1 talked me into taking care of a ubiquity bug. but i don't know python. ;) [05:24] it's not like it was an official build or anything, so maybe just some incompatibility with my build [05:25] im going to try it one more time to be sure [05:25] probably [05:25] still, create a bug report [05:25] might be valuable [05:25] ok [05:26] I like the theme of MU. [05:26] No crappy blue.. [05:27] too grey here ;) [05:27] mpmc, are you seeing the new theme or the old one? The old one was a dark grey [05:27] ^^ in ubiquity [05:27] dark grey [05:27] laga: I make dpkg-reconfigure and it goes well... tiping irw and hitting on the remote.. recognize the tiping on the remote, Is not necessary copy the .lircrc file o.. I could make it? [05:28] ah [05:28] IMO, the new one is much better [05:28] spoky99: install mythbuntu-lirc-generator and run it === swhalen [n=swhalen@cpe-65-31-5-179.insight.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [05:29] Oh noes.. I'm scared of config files.. They look at me weird.. :( [05:30] that's why we make mythbuntu === laga comforts mpmc [05:30] Darn brb. [05:31] hi [05:32] heh, I keep trying to use the mouse connected to my mythbuntu box on my laptop [05:32] hi kieran491 [05:32] hi kieran491 [05:32] My mythtv is referaing to one of my TVTuner cards as as adapter1 but it is adapter0 how do you fix this i have tryed just deleteing it but that did not seem to work any ideas on how i can make it work? [05:33] kieran491: please be more specific. what distro? what capture card? how exactly does this cause problems? [05:34] and where does adapter0 or adapter 1 come into play [05:34] i am using mandriva this problem started when i rebooted my machine but it was working before i rebooted [05:34] and your using a ubuntu backend? [05:34] nop [05:34] kieran491: in case you haven't noticed: the channel name "#ubuntu-mythtv" contains the string "ubuntu" [05:34] a ubuntu frontend? [05:34] yes.... [05:34] ah. [05:35] nirvana at last [05:35] kieran491: try #mythtv-users [05:35] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ yep [05:35] that dose not exist many people have refered me to that room [05:35] huh [05:35] #mythtv-users does exist [05:35] it dose now [05:35] kieran491, i would be money that it does [05:35] i have tryed that room in the past and never got it [05:35] and has for a long time now === laga [n=laga@mythwiki.de] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["get] === Tari [n=Tari@CPE-72-133-204-1.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:04] someone know how to stop the computer directly from the last menu of mythtv? [06:04] now it restart === kabtoffe_ [n=kbergstr@hoas-fe2add00-192.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === kieran491 [n=ehh@c211-28-159-50.brasd1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === tgm4883_laptop forgot how much of a pain firewire was to setup [06:28] which driver should I use for cinergy t2 remote? [06:32] tgm4883_laptop, indeed :) [06:32] tgm4883_laptop, perhaps we should improve upon that process [06:33] although automating it is quite the challenge [06:33] Koffa, who makes that remote even, never heard of it [06:34] superm1, booya!!! firewire in mythbuntu alpha4.2 [06:34] tgm4883_laptop, sweet so we aren't affected by the problems j-rod was having then [06:34] awesome [06:34] i have no sound [06:34] but that could be any number of reasons [06:34] yea [06:34] as long as you can capture [06:34] that's what matters [06:34] oh yea [06:34] cartoons [06:34] its a real pain though [06:35] can you think of what can be done in terms of automating the procedure? [06:35] I think it's going to have to be a user input script [06:35] where we run commands and ask the user to select 1 or 2 [06:35] you mean for like determining ports and such [06:35] yea [06:35] which one its plugged into [06:36] and for downloading and updating the scripts [06:36] well honestly, i dont see why myth can't figure that out [06:36] you would think it could query the bus [06:36] and find it [06:36] true [06:36] I still have the problem with my stb jumping nodes though [06:36] :( [06:36] perhaps the 'proper' solution is to write a myth patch for that exact purpose [06:36] i heard that is resolved in 0.21 [06:36] dunno where i herad it [06:36] or even heard it [06:36] I hope so [06:36] although i doubt it [06:37] as it seems to be in the stack [06:37] not mythtv related [06:37] well but i heard that myth can get along around that [06:37] in 0.21 [06:37] so perhaps it does query the bus [06:37] although there is a firewire_reset in .21 [06:37] and determine where the box is [06:38] heh [06:38] HD runs like crap right now === tgm4883_laptop needs to install proprietary drivers [06:39] can you respond to laga's post so people on the ML know? [06:39] yep [06:39] i added your "Quit" button to the control centre [06:39] i'm just testing a few more patches towards it [06:39] and then i [06:39] 'll push it up [06:43] sweet [06:43] superm1, I was wondering, would it be bad to add the firewire parts to the main backend script? [06:43] superm1: terratec? [06:43] tgm4883_laptop, how so? [06:43] like priming stuff? [06:43] yea [06:43] I suppose it would be [06:44] Koffa, hm. i guess i still haven't heard of that brand. I've no idea what driver it should be using. I'd have to say /query lirc-list mailing list [06:44] tgm4883_laptop, what about people not doing firewire then? [06:44] thats what i was thinking, if it would be bad for them [06:44] maybe it'd make sense to add a configuration item in like /etc/default/mythtv-backend [06:44] and I think it would [06:44] FIREWIRE=True [06:44] hmm [06:44] and then that turns on all the firewire toys [06:45] that would fix a lot of the setup [06:45] what items need to be put in there exactly? [06:45] do you know? [06:45] yea [06:45] i just followed the feisty firewire guide [06:45] and really [06:45] well if you want to write a patch for it, i'd be glad to sponsor something sane [06:46] i think you can d/l the firewire backend script [06:46] so [06:46] let me think of a few different plans for this [06:47] I think the problem is that there are a few things that need compiled [06:47] well compiling more stuff isn't too big a deal [06:47] can always ship more of the contrib directory [06:47] with mythtv-backend perhaps [06:48] yea, but we would also need build essential on the cd [06:48] how much free space is there? [06:48] well there is plenty of free space, but i'm saying if its precompiled [06:48] in the package [06:48] ah [06:48] so in the mythtv package [06:48] its shipped [06:48] sounds good [06:48] cause there are 2 things to compile [06:49] wtf [06:49] i'm watching a strange Dell commercial with no sound in HD with no proprietary drivers installed [06:53] http://www.imagehosting.com/show.php/1116043_addons.png.html [06:53] anything more to add to that page? [06:55] nope looks good [06:55] is there going to be a different terminal in the future? [06:55] yes [06:55] good [06:55] as soon as DaveMorris completes the switch to xubuntu window manager [06:55] xfce4-terminal will be there [06:55] i despise the current terminal [06:55] currently that button looks for xfce4-terminal primarily, then gnome-terminal, then konsole, and then lastly xterm [06:56] problem though is it spawns a root terminal [06:56] which probably isn't a good idea [06:56] probably not [06:57] wait [06:58] did you want to add buttons for the things we need for firewire? === DaveMorris [n=dave@host-212-158-244-26.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === dfear [n=dfear@82-46-27-208.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:09] well we could do that [07:11] *snap* [07:13] mornin DaveMorris [07:13] superm1: I'm having a senior moment, how do you checkout the branch again? [07:14] bzr co http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-default-settings [07:14] if you want to get mythbuntu-default-settings [07:14] now if you want to be able to commit to it [07:14] you can do it like this [07:14] bzr co sftp://USER@bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-default-settings [07:14] yeah I wanted to checkout so I can commit as wel [07:14] where USER is your LP username [07:15] bzr: ERROR: Unsupported protocol for url "sftp://dave-greenacre@bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-default-settings": Unable to import paramiko (required for sftp support): No module named paramiko [07:15] you need to install paramiko [07:16] I don't remember doing it before [07:16] sudo apt-get install python-paramiko [07:16] I'm already ahead of you [07:16] its what is used to do a sftp or bzr+ssh commit [07:17] thanks :) === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [08:10] New bug: #135199 in mythplugins (multiverse) "dependency conflict (mythmusic and mythtv) 0.20.2" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135199 === kabtoffe [n=kbergstr@hoas-fe2add00-192.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-57-89.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:19] http://pastebin.com/m7100a932 - anyone got any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? It works on my amd64 machine === Kenzu [n=jesper@4306ds2-ar.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === phillywhitetrash [n=phillywh@c-76-99-3-210.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883@67.189.41.100] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [10:13] superm1: http://pastebin.com/m7100a932 - anyone got any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? It works on my amd64 machine [10:14] DaveMorris, what did you change? [10:14] anything? [10:14] nothing [10:14] apart from the mirror and the place to save it to [10:15] what is your BASE_INSTALL [10:15] set to? [10:16] BASE_INSTALL='/tmp/mythbuntu_iso' [10:16] it looks like well it didn't debootstrap [10:16] do you not have debootstrap installed? [10:17] it's installed, or do I need a gutsy veersion [10:17] yes you need the gutsy version [10:17] # Requirements: [10:17] # * Root permissions [10:17] # * debootstrap taken from ubuntu/main of the target Ubuntu release [10:17] :) [10:18] how do I install that on a feisty system? [10:18] go to packages.ubuntu.com [10:18] and grab the gutsy version [10:18] and just dpkg -i it [10:18] ok [10:18] its just a script, so it doesnt need to be rebuilt for feisty [10:24] thats fixed the problem thanks [10:26] enjoying your day then superm1? [10:27] DaveMorris, yeah [10:27] nice relaxing day for a change of pace [10:27] do you need to know how to do a PPA build of mythbuntu-default-settings now? [10:27] sounds good, [10:27] er well did you join the lp beta team yet? [10:28] I might as well learn, not sure if I'#ve been added yet [10:29] not a member yet [10:29] ah okay [10:29] well for now you can just copy the files in via the build script [10:29] you can see how it copies a few of them in [10:29] or you can just do it post env [10:30] ok I'll have a look in the script to see how it's donee [10:31] but as for when PPA does get added to your account, what you need to do is bump the version number of the package [10:31] so you can do that like this: [10:31] dch -v 0.55-0ubuntu1~mythbuntu1 [10:31] and that will give it a sane version number for the PPA [10:32] its always very very important that your version number includes a ~mythbuntuX or ~ppaX [10:32] Do I need to add my ppa url tot the script as weell [10:32] so that the one in the archive will always take prirority [10:32] well you can push to the team ppa [10:32] once you are setup [10:32] sounds good [10:33] to push to the ppa, you need to edit /etc/dput.cf [10:33] add this section [10:33] [ppa-mythbuntu] [10:33] fqdn = ppa.launchpad.net [10:33] incoming = ~mythbuntu/ubuntu [10:33] login = anonymous [10:33] and then when you build your source package, build it like this [10:33] debuild -S -sa [10:33] and then to push to the PPA [10:33] you will do [10:33] dput ppa-mythbuntu FILE.changes === DaveMorris knows I'll have to ask more questions, but this is logged my end :) [10:34] well that should be the jist of it [10:36] Hey, do you think mythbuntu could be considered of use to academic users? [10:36] how so? [10:36] http://www.mirrorservice.org/ [10:37] worth a try [10:37] They seem to mirror nearly everything on sourceforge mind [10:37] as they can use it to record shows for use in classes in schools/colleges/uni's [10:37] well wouldn't hurt to try [10:37] ya [10:38] Which category tho? [10:38] http://www.mirrorservice.org/Help/FeedBack/Mirror [10:39] teching and computing resourcees [10:40] Helps users learn the internal's of linux aswell :P [10:40] Mind you, if we get it into sourceforge - then it seems to automatically get mirrored by loads of mirrors. [10:41] Should i do that? [10:41] Computing Applications/Utilities [10:41] sourceforge doesn't host ISOs though do they? [10:41] yep [10:41] Asterisk@Home used to be on sourceforge [10:41] That was an iso [10:42] tbh staying away from sourceforge would be better [10:42] well why didn't we think of this before then? [10:42] why? [10:42] more cocntrol if we do it [10:42] sourceforge _can_ have a bad reputation.. but we wouldn't link users to it - just the mirrors it rsync's with [10:42] btw if you worried about bandwidth just limit direct downloads to 50KBp/s and people will torrent it instead [10:42] bad reputation for poor quality software.. [10:43] DaveMorris: or not bother downloading [10:43] Strangly, so many people don't know how to torrent [10:43] or 100 then [10:43] you can still download, it just takes longer [10:43] Yeah, but surely we want to make it easier to downlaod - more accessible [10:44] tbh I tend not to torrent as it's quicker to download directly [10:44] well once elmo gets us an ubuntu.com mirror place [10:44] i think we will not have any more worries [10:44] _can_ be, but a well seeded torrent will always win [10:44] Okay.. i'll try and chase elmo again [10:44] it still takes time to get starting imo [10:46] I told elmo that we were peaking combined of the mirrors 80Gb/Day, steadily sropping off after the new release [10:46] He didn't seem shocked by that === Kenzu [n=jesper@4306ds2-ar.0.fullrate.dk] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Kopete] [10:55] Wow.. My torrent client can see 422 other seeders. [10:55] Only the FOSS community seed like that! === DaveMorris is still seeding === dfear [n=dfear@82-46-27-208.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883@67.189.41.100] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === DaveMorris is running the mythbuntu script through his apt proxy so it's gonna be a lot better next time === Tari [n=Tari@CPE-72-133-204-1.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === tgm4883_laptop_ [n=tgm4883@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:05] I've asked this in #ubuntu and am not getting an answer... So I'm going to ask here... [12:05] I've a Dell Optiplex, I've tried to put Feisty on it. Wouldn't boot, I'm reinstalling, I noticed in the partitioning... It wants to partition SCSI1 (0.0.0) (sda) - 40.0GB ATA ST340016A... Isn't SCSI, um, not ATA? [12:06] sata devices appear as scsi devices [12:08] Yes... but wouldn't a SATA be called a SATA, not ATA? [12:08] should be [12:10] The documentation doesn't mention "serial" or "parallel", the photo of how to install appears to show plugging into an IDE type connector [12:11] I read somewhere that they are gonna start labelling hard drives on /dev/hdx as /dev/sdx [12:11] I mean, SATA connectors are visually different than PATA. [12:11] DaveMorris, they already do [12:12] actually, they are going to be using UUID instead of /dev/sdx [12:12] Ok, but, if it's saying it's SCSI, is it trying to work with a SCSI drive, which isn't, and would that be a problem? [12:12] well [12:13] you could unplug any other hard drives [12:13] then try installing [12:13] There are no other harddrives [12:13] ah [12:13] i think your fine [12:13] the install should be fine [12:14] See.... installation goes smoothly, but then... I can't boot. I get the POST, grub says it's loading... blank screen, harddrive activity, but no cli or x ? === yotux [n=nathan@24-196-133-163.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:16] Well... actually, sometimes... there's like colored "static" lines that show up for a bit along the bottom. [12:16] hello everyone [12:16] Is mythbuntu going to be like LinuxMCE? [12:18] yotux, well what do you mean by "like"? [12:19] LinuxMCE has a complete media package, DVD, TV Music etc [12:19] I can't get threw the list of features and get my PVR-150 to work [12:19] well mythbuntu does come with plugins installed for all the features like that [12:20] they are all optional [12:20] In fiesty It works great, I built a new system to be media center for my house [12:20] you cant get through the list of features in mythbuntu? [12:21] LinuxMCE has list and layers of stuff [12:21] I am new to Mythtv & the whole live tv idea I am sorry' [12:21] well linuxmce uses mythtv for its tv portion anyhow, so it shouldnt be much new to you [12:21] does LinuxMCE do PVR with multiple frontends off the same backends [12:22] Dave- I am not sure, I can not get my PVR-150 to get a feed in LinuxMCE [12:23] TTFN [12:23] superm1 - Would it be ok to download an ISO for Mythbuntu to just play with? [12:23] yea of course :) [12:24] just watch out, there are a few known issues with the installer (they are detailed on the front page of mythbuntu.org) [12:24] as long as your aware of those, things should go fine [12:24] I know that your site was saying it only has one mirror so I don;t want to take bandwith that is valued like gold [12:25] well we've gotten a few more mirrors since then [12:25] cool [12:25] when you click the download link, you'll get redirected to a random US one if your US bound, and a uk one otherwise [12:26] yeah I am State side for this week [12:26] travel allot [12:27] x86 a better choice of the two? [12:27] should be the same basic thing either way [12:27] if your just playing i would say go x86 [12:28] hoping this will fill my need for media center [12:28] If I like this OS allot can I mirror it? [12:29] sure, we appreciate any mirrors we can get :) [12:29] where would your mirror be located? [12:29] I am getting 152k [12:29] Data center out of CO [12:30] no mirrors in CO yet, so that would be good. [12:30] average download out of there is around 500kb/sec [12:31] that just for me thought ymmv [12:31] well if we'll be adding you as a mirror, then we'd make you us-co.weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org [12:31] so just let us know [12:31] I've had 4000kb/s out of the UK one :) [12:33] thanks to my fast connection at work :) [12:33] ok [12:33] my dl is going a little slow :( all go things take time they tel me === Tari_ [n=Tari@CPE-72-133-204-1.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:39] Daviey, we are pushing out more than 80GB/day [12:39] just today so far its at 96