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jason6ghello all! i have done some research but i am not quite understanding how to do a dual boot setup, can anybody please point me in the right direction?04:03
Pumpernickel!grub04:06
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:06
jason6gthank you for the speedy response, i was reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot and am just wondering if its that simple?04:07
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SuprUsrHrm, I have a question.04:08
SuprUsrI've installed Network Manager.04:08
SuprUsrBut, It doesn't show up in my system tray or "notification area."04:08
SuprUsrAnd, I don't know the command to start it manually.04:08
Pumpernickeljason6g: The documentation there is a bit outdated, but it is quite simple.04:10
jason6gok, so my understanding is, partition out my main hard drive (currently its set to main c and recovery d) then instal ubuntu onto the new partition, then setup the boot choices and simply run it?04:19
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cellofellowhello friends.04:23
cellofellowcheeseboy: hey, guess what. I got a wireless-to-wired router working.04:24
cellofellowok, I have this Linksys WPC11 v4. On the WifiDocs in the help.ubuntu.com it says it only works with ndiswrapper. OK, whatever. But it still should appear in lspcmcia, and it's not.04:25
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SuprUsrDoes anyone know why Network Manager would not show up even though it was installed?04:49
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fundiesanyone here tell me if theres anything in these iptables rules blocking pings? http://rafb.net/p/u2RIoe68.html05:53
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Jester45hey cellofellow07:01
cellofellowhey there.07:01
cellofellowknow anything about rarely-used wifi modules?07:02
Jester45no07:02
Jester45im a wired kinda guy07:02
Jester451gbps or bust :)07:02
cellofellowI un-blacklisted the r818x module, and my Linksys WPC11v4 now works, except when I put in my ESSID, Gardner, it cuts off the last letter and doesn't want to connect.07:03
cellofellowJester45: I think 802.11n is 1 Gbps.07:03
Jester45i dont think any wireless is 1gb07:04
Jester45and now im starting to get hooked on fibre07:05
cellofellowhehe07:06
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cellofellowJester45: hey, I got it. I add an extra letter to the essid, and it works like a charm.07:11
cellofellowu there?07:11
Jester45nope :)07:12
cellofellowlol07:12
cellofellowthere, I was wondering if the wireless had died on me.07:12
cellofellowwell, got other things to test out. Gonna see if power management works.07:13
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atarinoxso what's a good time to ping in google?07:18
cellofellowwell, Standby seems to work for about one second, and then it turns back on again. Hibernate works fine, accept the wireless needed to be idown ifup after the restore.07:18
Jester45atarinox, i got a min/avg/max of 24.753/32.482/83.48507:19
Jester45but it all depends on your net connections07:20
atarinoxJester45: oh, ok. guess im not too far off07:20
Jester45what your bandwidth is and how much your using07:20
Jester45cable is slower than dsl unless your useing alot of the bandwidth, but dialup has the highest and t-1 is about the lowest pings a home user will get07:21
atarinoxyeah seems like my later packets were a lot slower07:22
atarinoxseems like it progressed to a lot of shit later on07:23
atarinoxnot sure why it gets worse as it progresses07:23
Jester45lets see what a box with 100mbit internet connection that isnt being used at all gets07:24
atarinoxJester45: what does that mean?07:24
Jester45its allso at a isp so that removes the time from computer -> router -> modem -> isp -> isp proxy -> isp gateway07:24
atarinoxJester45: but why would my packets slow down as the test progresses?07:25
Kr4t05|LapOkay, for some reason, I can't ssh into my desktop from my laptop, despite the fact that the desktop and router are only 5 feet away.07:25
Jester45it goes from computer -> switch -> gateway07:25
Kr4t05|LapI can ping the box and it replies.07:25
Jester45atarinox, the modem's cache gets slower07:25
Kr4t05|LapHowever, I try to ssh in and the connection times out. :/07:25
atarinoxJester45: oh ok07:25
Jester45ping and ssh are diffrent layers07:25
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Jester45what does it do when you try to ssh in07:26
Kr4t05|LapJester45, Sits there with no return for a few minutes, then gives me a Connection Timed Out error.07:26
Jester45min/avg/max/mdev = 25.190/25.370/25.650/0.215 ms07:26
Jester45for the isp box07:26
Jester45wanna see a better one :) the above box ping time to vidd.us07:28
Jester45 min/avg/max/mdev = 0.613/0.660/0.716/0.034 ms07:28
Jester45Kr4t05|Lap, is the ssh server running? can you ssh from the machine into its self via localhost07:28
Kr4t05|LapJester45, Yep.07:29
Kr4t05|LapI can't even mount NFS shares from the same box.07:32
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Kr4t05|LapSo...07:44
Kr4t05|LapYeah...07:44
Jester45i think that someone need to start a group of people that use xubuntu for its looks, feel, and speed not because they have slow pcs07:56
Jester45i hate when people think that xubuntu is only for slow pcs... like it ran gtk1 or something like dsl07:57
zoredach1_account on08:03
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Kr4t05|LapSo, does anyone have any idea why a LAN ssh connection would time-out?08:08
DuClareI use xfce for it's looks, feel and speed. :] 08:17
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hyper__ch!rmbv11:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rmbv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:30
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Nevermindhey there, same probs as yesturday.... Got a keyboard and trying to alocate keys 176 to Volume+, 174 to Volume- and 160 to mute, unmute... I've downloaded xBindkeys and xModmap but don't know what to do with them... anyone help me in binding these keys01:31
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DuClareNevermind, try xfce's settings once again.. :o01:35
DuClareNevermind, 20'59'00 <     Kilroo> I just go to the Shortcuts tab and click the Add button, personally.01:36
Nevermindtried it. there is no excecuteable file for audio up or down or mute01:39
DuClareumm01:39
DuClarecan you enter the command by hand?01:39
DuClareyou remember..01:39
DuClareaumixer01:39
DuClareor aumix01:39
Nevermindyeh , aumix -v -501:39
DuClareyes, can you enter that?01:40
uptownbenHi All. I just installed JEDIT (via the jedit installer not the xubuntu installer) and I want to add it to my menu under development or something. How do I do that?01:40
Nevermindwhen i do aumix +v +5 it comes up with all the other setttings too01:40
Nevermindand yeh they all work01:40
DuClarebtw, to raise the volume, you do `aumix -v +5` ;)01:40
Nevermind:P01:41
DuClare-v to tell you're modifying _V_olume, and +5 to add five to it. :)01:41
Nevermindk01:41
Nevermindit all works in the terminal01:41
DuClareanyway, I think you should be able to enter the command by hand in the xfce thingie, can't you?01:41
Nevermindi'll see01:41
NevermindWOOOO it works!!! cheers dude01:42
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DuClareglad you got it... bye o/01:43
uptownbenIf I install a gnome app (like gnome-rdp) will it install all the gnome libraries also? Will that slow things down when I run that app?01:46
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triptecwtf, sometimes Xorg hogs all resources without doing anything... I have to restart it and its ok for a while... anyone who has any idea??02:53
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TheSheeptriptec: what graphics card?03:00
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loakhello all, how can I use a .patch file in the sources of a module witch I need to compil (the omnibook module) ?03:18
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TheSheeploak: man patch03:32
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uptownbenIf I leave my xubuntu machine idle for a few minutes, the pcmcia network card goes down and the system locks up.. what could it be?03:38
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neozengood morning all'04:43
Nevermindafternoon04:44
Nevermind#04:44
Nevermindanyone know much about wine emulator04:44
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TheSheep!anynone04:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about anynone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:50
TheSheep!anybody04:50
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?04:50
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hyper_chTheSheep: online?05:15
TheSheepyep05:17
TheSheephyper_ch: and you?05:18
hyper_chis there a way how I can move around my progams in the taskbar? change their order?05:18
hyper_chTheSheep: so am I :)05:18
hyper_chjust doing tons of things at once... you know how that is05:19
TheSheephyper_ch: I don't use taskbar, so I have no idea05:20
hyper_chTheSheep: that can't be... you must know... you know everything about *buntu05:21
TheSheephyper_ch: why do you need it?05:21
hyper_chbecause I like to have my apps in a certain order05:21
TheSheephyper_ch: what for/05:22
hyper_chI just like it that way... email first, browser next, then the rest05:23
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Win`a`2Hi05:32
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Win`a`2Why does the graphical Installer mount the sole partition on the sole harddrive when determing the filesystem befor creating a new one on it?05:33
Win`a`2had to unmount it manually during installation05:34
Win`a`2:05:34
viddWin`a`2, feisty or gutsy?05:35
Win`a`2stable05:35
viddwe dont have "stable"05:36
Win`a`2feisty05:36
Win`a`2:)05:36
viddand you used the live cd?05:36
Win`a`2xubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso05:36
Win`a`2should have used alternate instead I guess05:37
=== vidd has had that issue as well....which is why he never uses the (sub standard and buggy) live cd for installs
=== vidd only uses the live cd for emergency maintenance
viddand im talking "the world will end if i dont recover that data" emergencies!05:39
retourMy Orage calendar has no entries, its not in autostart menu but ALWAYS starts when my system start - How to stop it?05:39
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steve___:)05:39
vidd=P05:39
Win`a`2:D05:39
viddretour, is it in init.d?05:40
viddretour, you COULD uninstall it =] 05:40
retourUninstall is at my level of "geekness" BUT I may need it sometimes05:42
retourvidd: can U give me full path to this magic init.d?05:42
vidd??05:42
vidd /etc/init.d05:42
retourthx05:42
retourBRB05:42
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viddrc and  rc.local both autostart aps too (and they are listed under the /etc/init.d/ directory) you might want to look at those files to see if it is listed there05:45
retourvidd: OK there is a s**t load of stuff in this directory - which one may be triggering my Orage calendar?05:45
viddOrange05:45
viddOrage05:46
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retourOK there is no orage in init.d and no word orage in rc.local - any ideas?05:48
retouris it possible that my Xfce graphic display is out of synch with setup files or something?05:49
TheSheepretour: just close it and save the session05:49
viddapt-get remove --purge orage && apt-get install orage05:49
TheSheepvidd: that won't help05:49
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viddoh...i keep forgetting about that retarted "save session" crap05:50
retourTheSheep: I'll do it once again to be sure BUT I tried it already I think05:52
retourBRB05:52
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viddany luck?05:55
retourhi! this crap poped back! And I killed it and than checked that save session is active05:56
TheSheepretour: try deleteing the session data05:56
TheSheepretour: in ~/.cache/sessions/05:56
retoureverything I find there?05:56
TheSheepyes05:56
retourok05:56
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retour~/. means root directory or my home?05:59
jarnosretour, your home06:01
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retourok deleted everything from sessions cache but Orage popped up again! Any other ideas?06:06
retourOK time to uninstall it06:09
retourOK unistall is impossible as it wants to also uninstall Xfce desktop!!!! Who made such a crazy dependencies!??06:11
viddretour, xubuntu-desktop is a meta package...you can uninstall it without harm06:12
retourOh nice - Thank you!06:12
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triptecanyone who have had problems with rtorrent and moving finiched files06:22
triptec??06:22
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hyper_chtriptec: no06:29
viddretour, you good now?06:30
hyper_chhiho vidd06:30
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nallemanhi, I would like to know what the file manager in xubuntu/xfce is?06:43
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CoRnJuLiOxerr... how does one rename multiple files at once?06:44
CoRnJuLiOxi've got the dialog open, but i dont know how to change the names themselves06:45
TheSheepCoRnJuLiOx: how do you want them to be name?06:45
TheSheepd06:45
hyper_chnalleman: thunar06:46
nallemanthanx06:46
hyper_chnalleman: that's the default one06:46
CoRnJuLiOxTheSheep: ah i think i've got it figured out. well, i want em all to be numbered, from 7 - 26, and they've all got to have [WF]  at the front of their names06:47
TheSheepCoRnJuLiOx: select 'numbering' from the first widget06:47
hyper_chTheSheep: are you related to the nick "sheepinpanic"?06:48
CoRnJuLiOxTheSheep: got it.06:48
TheSheephyper_ch: no06:48
hyper_ch:)06:48
CoRnJuLiOxTheSheep: err, i see i can use regexes to rename files. IIRC there are different flavors of regex, which one does thunar use?06:49
TheSheepCoRnJuLiOx: not sure, I think python's06:50
CoRnJuLiOxdamn straight :-)06:51
CoRnJuLiOxergh the regex doesn't seem to be working. could someone lend a hand?07:00
TheSheepCoRnJuLiOx: we would have to see it07:01
CoRnJuLiOxi've got a file like this: [WF] _School_Rumble_-_25_[70A3E450] .avi, and i'm trying to strip the _s and the [70A3E450]  at the end.07:01
CoRnJuLiOxi've tried [A-Z0-9] $ to get the stuff at the end of the string07:02
TheSheep\[\w+\] 07:02
TheSheep\[\w+\] $07:02
TheSheepor \[[A-Z0-9] \] 07:03
CoRnJuLiOxnice07:03
CoRnJuLiOxwhat about the underscores? can i do both in a single regex, or would i have to take two shots at it?07:05
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TheSheepCoRnJuLiOx: _|\[\w+\] $07:06
Jester45how do you install grub from the live cd, i tried sudo grub-install /dev/hda1 bit it says that it cound not fine device for /boot07:06
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TheSheepJester45: how about sda1?07:08
TheSheephda? sda?07:08
Jester45not found07:10
TheSheepJester45: well, then run the grub shell and do it manually07:11
TheSheepJester45: type 'grub' and hit enter07:11
Jester45k07:11
TheSheepJester45: then type 'root (hd0,0)07:11
TheSheep'07:11
Jester45i get an error 17 with grub07:11
TheSheepthen 'setup'07:11
Jester45but it was working just fine the only thing i cahgned was removing the old kernels07:12
Jester45Error 21: Selected disk does not exist07:13
The-KernelJester45: put the back!!07:13
The-Kernelthem07:13
CoRnJuLiOxTheSheep: that second one didn't work. it only removed the first _ after [WF] , the rest stayed.07:15
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Jester45TheSheep: i ran grub as root and it didnt give the missing device error07:19
Jester45but setup said error 11 unredconized device string07:20
TheSheepJester45: setup hd007:20
Jester45same thing07:21
Jester45shoudl i do hd0,007:21
Jester45that does work either07:21
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Jester45doesnt*07:21
TheSheep(hd0,0)07:22
TheSheepI don't remember the syntax :/07:22
TheSheep!grub | Jester4507:22
ubotuJester45: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:22
VinWistai like vagina07:22
VinWista!vagina07:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vagina - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:22
Jester45!language07:23
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:23
VinWista!fagalter07:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fagalter - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:23
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VinWistawtf!07:25
Jester45TheSheep: i think that my first partition is messed up... i need to formate it07:25
VinWistahall have martial memory, the Poets song engage;07:25
VinWistaFor in Bellonas cradle was bred a brood of eight,07:25
VinWistaShe tended them and nursed them while the big world did wait -07:25
VinWistaNapoleon, Duke Wellington, Charles, Blcher, Souvorov,07:25
VinWistaKarageorge, the tyrants scourge, Schwartzenberg and Koutozov.07:25
VinWistaStrong Ares made them drunken, intoxicate for glory,07:25
VinWistaThe whole wide earth did give to them as theatre for their story!07:25
VinWistaTis from the jungles great that lions great appear,07:25
VinWistaAnd tis the peoples mighty who genius should rear;07:25
VinWistaGreat realms may breed the hero, grant space for glorious deeds.07:25
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TheSheepbye07:25
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TheSheepargh :)07:27
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Merchelo:D07:35
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CoRnJuLiOxwow.07:37
CoRnJuLiOxthat was weird07:37
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DexFhi08:01
DexFinstalled xubuntu-desktop on kubuntu, using the same font but it looks different. how come?08:01
DexFnext: i got xfce 4.3.99 - is there no 4.4.1? don't kubuntu and xubuntu sync their repos?08:03
DexFi just figured the font thing, wrong hinting settings. so nvm that one :P08:04
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Jester45DexF: the repos are the same is one big repo for ubuntu xubuntu and kubuntu08:08
Jester45you just have diffrent programs installed from it thats why you can use isntall xubuntu-desktop to get xfce and you dont have to add a new repo08:09
DexFJester45: friend said hes running 4.4.1 - how come his is newer?08:09
Jester45do you have feisty? or edgy08:09
DexFfeisty08:09
DexFhe, too08:09
viddDexF, it is quite possible he compiled it from source08:12
DexFnah, not that guy. hmm. maybe he got a backport. gonna ask.08:13
TheSheepDexF: 4.4.1 is in gutsy08:13
DexFaha. iirc he mentioned a feisty-backports repos. that would explain it.08:13
DexFok, mystery solved. next thing: how do I force xfce to assume 96DPI?08:14
DexFand: what's the fastest way to add launchers from the menu to the panel? drag and drop doesn't work08:14
viddright-click on panel>choose "launcher">configure launcher08:15
TheSheepDexF: d&d works from desktop into the list in the launcher preferences08:15
viddwhoops...forgot click add08:15
DexFTheSheep: what do you mean, "from desktop"?08:16
TheSheepDexF: you can create launchers on the desktop08:16
DexFa tad long winded, huh?08:17
TheSheepDexF: it has a nice user interface, with autocompletion and automatic assigning of icons08:17
TheSheepDexF: yes, but that nice intrface is not yet connected to the panel launchers08:17
TheSheepDexF: it's work in progress08:17
DexFok08:17
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DexFso - any idea about the 96DPI thing? I could so it via the corg.conf but I'd prefer not to fsck around with that08:24
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DexF*do it08:25
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retourAnybody had luck with runing LKL?08:25
viddLKL???08:25
vidd!lkl08:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lkl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:25
viddretour, what is that?08:26
retourLinux Key Logger - this thing is not able to use own keymaps08:26
retourIts in repos08:26
TheSheepDexF: you can set in in .config/xfce4/Xft.xrdb08:26
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DexFTheSheep: Xft.dpi: 96 <- like that?08:30
TheSheepDexF: yes08:30
DexFk, thanks08:30
triptecI get "*** The ncurses library is required!" when I run ./configure, but I have libncurses5 installed... what to do?08:32
TheSheeptriptec: ncurses-dev08:33
Jester45TheSheep: would you know why i cant copy anything from hda1 to hda3 without it saying there is no space left.... but hda3 has space08:40
Jester45its only 22% used08:40
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TheSheepJester45: fat?08:45
maxamillionmmmmm ncurses08:46
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Jester45hda3 is ext3 hda1 was reiser now its partly broken08:47
Jester45gparted says its ext3 (but i know its not) grub doesnt know what it is08:47
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Ben_Cshello08:48
Jester45but... i need to go to work right now... im going to try a reinstall without formating my hda3 its the only one i really need08:49
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MitsunariWould someone be willing to extend a helping hand to a complete linux-newbie just getting started with xubuntu?09:05
viddsure...what do you need?09:06
MitsunariNamely, getting my oldie Voodoo 3 card working properly.09:06
viddwhat is the issue with it?09:06
MitsunariCan't get the screen resolutions to work09:06
triptec./configure: line 21547: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(STUFF, sigc++-2.0 libcurl >= 7.12.0 libtorrent >= 0.11.6,'09:06
triptecit complains about STUFF... what to do?09:07
MitsunariThere was something about modifying the xorg.conf on some forum...09:07
viddyeah....sounds about right09:07
viddwhat resolutions are available to you?09:07
MitsunariBut since i can't modify that file using sudo, I'm kind of stuck.09:08
viddwhat do you mean you cant modify it using sudo?09:08
MitsunariOnly Default and 320x24009:08
viddoh...ouch!09:09
MitsunariWell... Trying to edit it with nano, but it won't let me save the file (prolly due to Xfce running)09:09
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MitsunariLike I said, complete newb :D09:09
viddwell....to modify it, you want to do this:09:10
MitsunariAnd since I have no idea how to kill Xfce...09:10
MitsunariOr is it with GDM? I seriously have no idea :D09:11
viddsudo [put prefered text editor here]  /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:11
MitsunariDone that09:11
MitsunariEdited the Refresh and Sync rates in09:11
viddyou do NOT need to kill Xfce to edit or save the file09:12
MitsunariBut it didn't let me save it09:12
viddin nano, you need to hit [ctrl] [x] 09:12
viddthen [enter] 09:12
viddsorry...[ctrl] [x] ....[y] ....[enter] 09:13
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vidddid you put "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"?09:14
MitsunariError Writing to file etc/X11/xorg.conf: Permission09:15
MitsunariSo, with my logig, either I do not have permission to edit that file, or some other program is using it (which shouldn't be the case?)09:17
MitsunariSo that's kinda the problem :D09:17
MitsunariNo insight?09:22
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MitsunariIs there some sirt of errorlog for nano somewhere?09:32
Mitsunarisort, too09:32
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Ben_Csy use nano?09:33
Mitsunari<- Totally newb when it comes to linux, so yes09:34
retourDoes USB and PS2 keyboards use different hardware ports ?09:34
Ben_Csretour: yes as far as i know09:35
Ben_CsMitsunari: nano is ok, but i like gui one09:36
retourso PS2 is port 0x60, what us for USB??? Or how to check it on my machine09:36
Ben_Csretour: sorry, that i don't know. i'm pretty n00b myself09:38
retourthats ok . thank you anyway09:39
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triptec./configure: line 21547: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(STUFF, sigc++-2.0 libcurl >= 7.12.0 libtorrent >= 0.11.6,' anyone who might know what it is that I miss? it complaines about STUFF09:40
viddMitsunari, sorry...im on a call @ work.....09:42
viddyou did not type nano09:42
Mitsunarihuh?09:43
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n-iCehi09:46
viddMitsunari,  hit [ctrl] [x] ...[n]  .... then hit the [up arrow]  and make sure that sudo is in front of nano.......09:47
Mitsunarihmm09:48
viddif it is not (and i will bet it isnt) hit the [home]  key and type sudo09:48
MitsunariUhm.09:48
MitsunariIf I type sudo <anything>, it just asks me for my password first, and does nothing. After that, sudo <anything> and nothing happens :D09:49
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viddhrm....10:00
viddsounds like you dont have sudo rights10:00
MitsunariYe10:00
viddis this user the only user on this box?10:00
Mitsunariyes10:01
MitsunariApparently, I should have gone with the other choise, when I downloaded xubuntu... :/10:02
viddwhat other choice?10:02
MitsunariSince I downloaded the 6.06.1 version10:02
viddare you using the live cd or did you already install?10:03
Mitsunariinstalled way back :D10:03
MitsunariDon't ask me why :D10:03
MitsunariYeah, well. Thanks for the help, I guess I'll be installing 7.04 tomorrow...10:04
viddthat will likely fix your issues10:04
vidd=] 10:04
MitsunariHopefully.10:05
vidddo this: nano /etc/group10:05
MitsunariWhy is it never easy? :D10:05
viddlook for admin10:05
vidddo you see something like admin:x:109:vidd10:06
viddwhere [vidd]  would be your username10:07
viddTheSheep, can you use nano in the recovery console?10:08
Mitsunarithere's adm and lpadmin, no admin10:09
viddis sudo listed?10:09
Mitsunariyes10:09
Mitsunarisudo:x:57:10:10
viddstrange that there is no admin10:11
vidddo you know how to get grub to boot the recovery console?10:11
Mitsunarifor some reason, I couldn't get grub working, so it on lilo10:12
viddare you getting the 7.04 live or alt cd?10:13
viddi recomend the alt10:13
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Ben_Csi wonder why networking isn't set by default in xubuntu.10:17
viddBen_Cs, what do you mean?10:17
Ben_Csnetwork shared folders by other pc's10:17
viddits coming in gutsy10:18
Ben_Csvidd: i have to go through several config steps and installations to be able to work with my WinXP pc shared folders10:18
Ben_Csvidd: i hope so10:18
viddi wish it wasnt, but it is10:19
Ben_Csvidd: why. you like doing everyrhing manually?10:19
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Ben_Csftp for local net? why in the name of god?10:19
viddto protect my systems from my windows machines10:20
viddits not like my windows machines have anything worth while on them...why make files there shared so hackers have something easy to exploit?10:21
The-Kernelheh10:23
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Ben_Csvidd: and ftp is more protected than password protected folders?10:32
The-KernelBen_Cs: yes10:33
Ben_CsThe-Kernel: good to know10:33
Ben_Csbut anyways i don't see a reason why would a hacker be interested in my comp10:33
Ben_Csthey are after companies, not individuals10:34
Ben_CsThe-Kernel: if i want to backup my xubuntu, i have to copy only the /usr and /home folders?10:35
The-KernelBen_Cs: what if someone rather smart with computers you know becomes an enemy10:35
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The-KernelI've had it happen10:35
Ben_CsThe-Kernel: i see10:35
The-KernelBen_Cs: I only backup /home but yeah that'll work10:35
MitsunariYay, it works!10:36
Ben_CsThe-Kernel: if u backup only home, you have to re-install all the progs again, no?10:36
The-KernelBen_Cs: yes, but you need to understand, that it's better to reinstall all the programs10:36
The-Kernelall the settings to those programs are saved in /home, so after you reinstall them it's like they've always been there10:37
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viddBen_Cs, why would a hacker be interested in storing their illegal files and criminal activies on your system rather then their own comp.....hrm...let me think....=] 10:48
viddoh...and there is also all that valuable personal information stored on your pc (passwords, browsing history, etc)10:50
Ben_Csvidd: you mean if a hacker needs a host pc to hack from?10:51
viddand personal pc's are (generally) not as well protected against hackers as business computers....10:51
Ben_CsThe-Kernel: i see. great10:51
viddBen_Cs, oh...there is that too10:51
Ben_CsThe-Kernel: then what i have to copy is not /home but only my user folder in home right?10:52
viddBen_Cs, i would recomend you save the whole /home directory....10:52
viddthat way you dont forget that report you been working on for the last week....10:53
vidd=] 10:53
Ben_Csvidd: well i have WinXP to play games, but when i have $$$ to buy PS3 i would be able to get rid of winblows10:53
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The-Kernelyeah11:09
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Ben_Cshow do i do that when ipod is plugged in, amarok will be opened?11:29
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Ben_Cssomething happened and the damned amarok stopped working. is there another good app for ipod?11:45
The-Kernelgtkpod11:45
Ben_Cscan it play music?11:45
The-Kernelno11:45
The-Kerneljust add/delete11:46
The-Kerneltry Exaile11:46
Ben_Cshmm been looking in add/remove. how's Rhythmbox?11:47
The-KernelLast I used it, it didn't work to well, but I think it can utilze your iPod11:48
Ben_Cscool. i'll try11:49
Ben_Csthanks11:49
Ben_CsThe-Kernel: suppose u have an ipod. what app would u choose from all the available?11:51
Ben_CsThe-Kernel: BTW, i use some KDE apps. is there a reason to prefer gtk apps over kde apps?11:52
The-KernelBen_Cs: for all "4" of my iPods I use GTKpod11:52
The-Kernelgtk is used over QT(KDE)11:53
The-Kernelits lighter11:53
The-KernelI don't really care, my machines are pretty powerful11:53
Ben_CsThe-Kernel: is there an option in gtkpod to add disconnection line: eject /media/ipod?11:53
The-KernelBen_Cs: yes11:53
Ben_Csok, i'll give it a try11:54
Ben_Csi hope some day soon aplle will make itunes for linux11:54
Ben_CsThe-Kernel: when i press (in gtkpod) "load ipod" i get: Segmentation fault (core dumped)11:56
The-Kernelno clue11:56
The-KernelBen_Cs: they are currently in discussion about having iTunes in linux11:57
Ben_Csgtkpod has only 1 first generation ipod preference? wtf?11:58
Ben_Csmaybe i should download the last version from getdeb.net? cause the repo. one is aufully buggy11:59
Ben_CsBen_Cs: that didn't help either. gtkpod sucks12:01
Ben_Cssomeone wrote in a blog that grkpod don't work with new ipods...12:02
The-Kernelthat's wrong12:08
The-KernelI've used ALL the newest ones12:08
The-Kernelthey all work fine12:08
The-KernelBen_Cs: I think your computer is a bit buggy12:08
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Ben_CsThe-Kernel: tried ipod shuffle 2nd gen?12:15
The-KernelBen_Cs: the small ones?12:18
Ben_Csyes12:18
The-Kernellike the REALLY small ones?12:18
The-Kernelyes12:18
Ben_Csyes12:18
The-Kernelwork fine with me12:18
The-Kernelactually I take that back, I had one that didn't work right12:18
The-Kernelthe moment the plugged it into the windows machine, everything disappered12:18
Ben_Csdon't know. something wrong in my xubuntu maybe? just reinstalled xubuntu today.12:19
The-Kernelexcept music put on from iTunes12:19
The-KernelBen_Cs: why did you reinstall?12:19
Ben_Csbtw, banshee says it don't have codecs?!12:19
Ben_CsThe-Kernel: cause i screwd arround with it and it became buggy12:19
Ben_Csdidn't screw arround with it today though12:20
The-KernelBen_Cs: what version?12:20
Ben_Cs7.0412:21
The-Kerneloh12:21
The-Kernelsystem specs?12:21
Ben_Csintel e2160 cpu. 2G RAM. asrock motherboard. intel g950 graphics12:22
Ben_CsThe-Kernel: btw neither banshee nor rhythmbox have codecs to play files from my ipod...12:23
The-Kernelsudo apt-get install ffmpeg12:24
Ben_CsThe-Kernel: i mean uadio files12:26
Ben_Cs*audio12:27
The-Kernelyeah12:32
Ben_Csdidn't help. rhythmbox still shows the sign it can't play it12:35
The-Kerneldoes it say which one?12:35
Ben_Csi'll try to run it in terminal12:37
Ben_Csdamn, it print's hell lot of lines12:39
Ben_Cshere some:12:40
Ben_Cs** Message: don't know how to handle audio/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)1, layer=(int)312:40
Ben_Cs/bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found12:41
Ben_Cshaaa. to mach of an headache. i'll just use windows for ipod12:42
Ben_CsThe-Kernel: btw could it be that i didn't write something right in fstab and it affects something in gtkpod?12:43
The-Kernelpossibly12:44
The-Kernelbut basically if you see the iPof icon on desktop then fstab is working right12:44
The-Kernelyeah install both lame and ffmpeg12:44
Ben_Csi do see. let me show u the line:12:44
Ben_Cs/dev/sdb /media/ipod auto noauto,users,rw,sync 0 012:45
Ben_Csis it ok?12:45
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The-Kernelsorry aboutthat12:56
Ben_Csnp01:04
Ben_CsThe-Kernel: finally! downloaded the really last version of gtkpod from getdeb. checking it now. at least the app doesn't crash, and has my ipod model in database01:05
Ben_CsThe-Kernel: xmms works great with gtkpod01:12

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