=== T` [n=total@pdpc/supporter/student/T] has joined #xubuntu === soweto76 [n=jack@d226-43-189.home.cgocable.net] has joined #xubuntu === T` [n=total@pdpc/supporter/student/T] has joined #xubuntu === jason6g [n=jason6g@pool-71-175-183-42.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:03] hello all! i have done some research but i am not quite understanding how to do a dual boot setup, can anybody please point me in the right direction? [04:06] !grub [04:06] grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto [04:07] thank you for the speedy response, i was reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot and am just wondering if its that simple? === SuprUsr [n=andrew@dsl-206-251-14-4.dsl0.crls.pa.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:08] Hrm, I have a question. [04:08] I've installed Network Manager. [04:08] But, It doesn't show up in my system tray or "notification area." [04:08] And, I don't know the command to start it manually. [04:10] jason6g: The documentation there is a bit outdated, but it is quite simple. [04:19] ok, so my understanding is, partition out my main hard drive (currently its set to main c and recovery d) then instal ubuntu onto the new partition, then setup the boot choices and simply run it? === cellofellow [n=josh@69-71-167-63.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:23] hello friends. [04:24] cheeseboy: hey, guess what. I got a wireless-to-wired router working. [04:25] ok, I have this Linksys WPC11 v4. On the WifiDocs in the help.ubuntu.com it says it only works with ndiswrapper. OK, whatever. But it still should appear in lspcmcia, and it's not. === jason6g [n=jason6g@pool-71-175-183-42.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has left #xubuntu [] === Catoptromancy [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:49] Does anyone know why Network Manager would not show up even though it was installed? === maxamillion [n=adam@166.128.187.201] has joined #xubuntu === SuprUsr [n=andrew@dsl-206-251-14-4.dsl0.crls.pa.net] has joined #xubuntu === Kr4t05|Lap [n=andrew@dsl-206-251-14-4.dsl0.crls.pa.net] has joined #xubuntu === Ghostvirus [n=Ghostvir@206-15-138-187.dialup.ziplink.net] has joined #xubuntu === Ghostvirus [n=Ghostvir@206-15-138-187.dialup.ziplink.net] has left #xubuntu [] === fundies [i=Oscar@71-10-241-192.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu === ric1 [n=rici@201.230.42.85] has joined #xubuntu === ric1 [n=rici@201.230.42.85] has joined #xubuntu [05:53] anyone here tell me if theres anything in these iptables rules blocking pings? http://rafb.net/p/u2RIoe68.html === ric1 [n=rici@201.230.42.85] has left #xubuntu [] === rici [n=rici@201.230.42.85] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=catw@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === AssuredAnomaly [n=Derek@cpe-075-177-108-127.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === LikeVinyl [n=likeviny@OL168-152.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #xubuntu === xjkx [n=x@201009103088.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #xubuntu === kikr [n=ant@ool-435495ff.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@69-71-167-63.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu === Kr4t05|Lap [n=andrew@dsl-206-251-14-4.dsl0.crls.pa.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:01] hey cellofellow [07:01] hey there. [07:02] know anything about rarely-used wifi modules? [07:02] no [07:02] im a wired kinda guy [07:02] 1gbps or bust :) [07:03] I un-blacklisted the r818x module, and my Linksys WPC11v4 now works, except when I put in my ESSID, Gardner, it cuts off the last letter and doesn't want to connect. [07:03] Jester45: I think 802.11n is 1 Gbps. [07:04] i dont think any wireless is 1gb [07:05] and now im starting to get hooked on fibre [07:06] hehe === cellofel1ow [n=josh@69-71-167-63.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu === cellofel1ow is now known as cellofellow [07:11] Jester45: hey, I got it. I add an extra letter to the essid, and it works like a charm. [07:11] u there? [07:12] nope :) [07:12] lol [07:12] there, I was wondering if the wireless had died on me. [07:13] well, got other things to test out. Gonna see if power management works. === atarinox [n=atarinox@68.63.173.14] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@69-71-167-63.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:18] so what's a good time to ping in google? [07:18] well, Standby seems to work for about one second, and then it turns back on again. Hibernate works fine, accept the wireless needed to be idown ifup after the restore. [07:19] atarinox, i got a min/avg/max of 24.753/32.482/83.485 [07:20] but it all depends on your net connections [07:20] Jester45: oh, ok. guess im not too far off [07:20] what your bandwidth is and how much your using [07:21] cable is slower than dsl unless your useing alot of the bandwidth, but dialup has the highest and t-1 is about the lowest pings a home user will get [07:22] yeah seems like my later packets were a lot slower [07:23] seems like it progressed to a lot of shit later on [07:23] not sure why it gets worse as it progresses [07:24] lets see what a box with 100mbit internet connection that isnt being used at all gets [07:24] Jester45: what does that mean? [07:24] its allso at a isp so that removes the time from computer -> router -> modem -> isp -> isp proxy -> isp gateway [07:25] Jester45: but why would my packets slow down as the test progresses? [07:25] Okay, for some reason, I can't ssh into my desktop from my laptop, despite the fact that the desktop and router are only 5 feet away. [07:25] it goes from computer -> switch -> gateway [07:25] I can ping the box and it replies. [07:25] atarinox, the modem's cache gets slower [07:25] However, I try to ssh in and the connection times out. :/ [07:25] Jester45: oh ok [07:25] ping and ssh are diffrent layers === zoredache [n=zoredach@pdpc/supporter/active/zoredache] has joined #xubuntu [07:26] what does it do when you try to ssh in [07:26] Jester45, Sits there with no return for a few minutes, then gives me a Connection Timed Out error. [07:26] min/avg/max/mdev = 25.190/25.370/25.650/0.215 ms [07:26] for the isp box [07:28] wanna see a better one :) the above box ping time to vidd.us [07:28] min/avg/max/mdev = 0.613/0.660/0.716/0.034 ms [07:28] Kr4t05|Lap, is the ssh server running? can you ssh from the machine into its self via localhost [07:29] Jester45, Yep. [07:32] I can't even mount NFS shares from the same box. === zoredach1_ [n=zoredach@c-24-17-58-219.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:44] So... [07:44] Yeah... [07:56] i think that someone need to start a group of people that use xubuntu for its looks, feel, and speed not because they have slow pcs [07:57] i hate when people think that xubuntu is only for slow pcs... like it ran gtk1 or something like dsl [08:03] account on [08:03] ack === zoredach1_ is now known as zoredache [08:08] So, does anyone have any idea why a LAN ssh connection would time-out? 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Got a keyboard and trying to alocate keys 176 to Volume+, 174 to Volume- and 160 to mute, unmute... I've downloaded xBindkeys and xModmap but don't know what to do with them... anyone help me in binding these keys === uptownben [n=uptownbe@line102-144.adsl.actcom.co.il] has joined #xubuntu === boogie [n=boogie@p548A27DB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu === _boogie_ [n=boogie@p548A27DB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu === b00gie [n=boogie@p548A27DB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu === boogie [n=boogie@p548A27DB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu === hyper__ch is now known as hyper_ch [01:35] Nevermind, try xfce's settings once again.. :o [01:36] Nevermind, 20'59'00 < Kilroo> I just go to the Shortcuts tab and click the Add button, personally. [01:39] tried it. there is no excecuteable file for audio up or down or mute [01:39] umm [01:39] can you enter the command by hand? [01:39] you remember.. [01:39] aumixer [01:39] or aumix [01:39] yeh , aumix -v -5 [01:40] yes, can you enter that? [01:40] Hi All. I just installed JEDIT (via the jedit installer not the xubuntu installer) and I want to add it to my menu under development or something. How do I do that? [01:40] when i do aumix +v +5 it comes up with all the other setttings too [01:40] and yeh they all work [01:40] btw, to raise the volume, you do `aumix -v +5` ;) [01:41] :P [01:41] -v to tell you're modifying _V_olume, and +5 to add five to it. :) [01:41] k [01:41] it all works in the terminal [01:41] anyway, I think you should be able to enter the command by hand in the xfce thingie, can't you? [01:41] i'll see [01:42] WOOOO it works!!! cheers dude === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #xubuntu === Nevermind [n=alex@i-195-137-124-156.freedom2surf.net] has left #Xubuntu [] [01:43] glad you got it... bye o/ [01:46] If I install a gnome app (like gnome-rdp) will it install all the gnome libraries also? Will that slow things down when I run that app? === BlueEagl1 [n=blueeagl@ti541210a340-2989.bb.online.no] has joined #Xubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #xubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #xubuntu === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #xubuntu === gerro [n=logmein@c-68-33-161-50.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu === remi____ [n=reber@LNeuilly-152-21-126-73.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === triptec [n=triptec@85.8.5.107.static.se.wasadata.net] has joined #xubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #xubuntu [02:53] wtf, sometimes Xorg hogs all resources without doing anything... I have to restart it and its ok for a while... anyone who has any idea?? === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #xubuntu === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:00] triptec: what graphics card? === Everget3 [n=Evergete@87.10.50.77] has joined #xubuntu === Balaams_Miracle [n=balaam@g175073.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #xubuntu === loak [n=guislain@ALyon-153-1-63-185.w86-197.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu [03:18] hello all, how can I use a .patch file in the sources of a module witch I need to compil (the omnibook module) ? === meborc [n=meborc@c-6bd972d5.044-2-73746f44.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #xubuntu [03:32] loak: man patch === Everget3 [n=Evergete@host27-36-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #xubuntu === uptownben [n=ben@line102-144.adsl.actcom.co.il] has joined #xubuntu [03:38] If I leave my xubuntu machine idle for a few minutes, the pcmcia network card goes down and the system locks up.. what could it be? === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #xubuntu === Maniac[tm] [n=sven@pD95320C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu === kromo [n=jose@135.Red-217-125-129.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === jarnos [n=jarnos@dsl-trebrasgw1-fea0fa00-245.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #xubuntu === kromo [n=jose@135.Red-217-125-129.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #xubuntu [] === BlueEagl2 [n=blueeagl@ti541210a340-2956.bb.online.no] has joined #Xubuntu === triptec [n=triptec@85.8.5.107.static.se.wasadata.net] has left #xubuntu [] === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #xubuntu === loak [n=guislain@ALyon-153-1-63-185.w86-197.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #xubuntu [] === neozen [n=neozen@c-71-228-16-126.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === Nevermind [n=alex@i-195-137-124-156.freedom2surf.net] has joined #Xubuntu [04:43] good morning all' [04:44] afternoon [04:44] # [04:44] anyone know much about wine emulator === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu === vidd [n=vidd@neptune.intergrafix.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:50] !anynone [04:50] Sorry, I don't know anything about anynone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [04:50] !anybody [04:50] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #xubuntu [05:15] TheSheep: online? [05:17] yep [05:18] hyper_ch: and you? [05:18] is there a way how I can move around my progams in the taskbar? change their order? [05:18] TheSheep: so am I :) [05:19] just doing tons of things at once... you know how that is [05:20] hyper_ch: I don't use taskbar, so I have no idea [05:21] TheSheep: that can't be... you must know... you know everything about *buntu [05:21] hyper_ch: why do you need it? [05:21] because I like to have my apps in a certain order [05:22] hyper_ch: what for/ [05:23] I just like it that way... email first, browser next, then the rest === Win`a`2 [i=test33@p54854CA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:32] Hi === retour [n=ret@adsl-70-228-98-116.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:33] Why does the graphical Installer mount the sole partition on the sole harddrive when determing the filesystem befor creating a new one on it? [05:34] had to unmount it manually during installation [05:34] : [05:35] Win`a`2, feisty or gutsy? [05:35] stable [05:36] we dont have "stable" [05:36] feisty [05:36] :) [05:36] and you used the live cd? [05:36] xubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso [05:37] should have used alternate instead I guess === vidd has had that issue as well....which is why he never uses the (sub standard and buggy) live cd for installs === vidd only uses the live cd for emergency maintenance [05:39] and im talking "the world will end if i dont recover that data" emergencies! [05:39] My Orage calendar has no entries, its not in autostart menu but ALWAYS starts when my system start - How to stop it? === steve___ wonders when vidd will stop talking in the third person [05:39] :) [05:39] =P [05:39] :D [05:40] retour, is it in init.d? [05:40] retour, you COULD uninstall it =] [05:42] Uninstall is at my level of "geekness" BUT I may need it sometimes [05:42] vidd: can U give me full path to this magic init.d? [05:42] ?? [05:42] /etc/init.d [05:42] thx [05:42] BRB === dog_boy [n=DogBoy@ip72-199-249-82.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:45] rc and rc.local both autostart aps too (and they are listed under the /etc/init.d/ directory) you might want to look at those files to see if it is listed there [05:45] vidd: OK there is a s**t load of stuff in this directory - which one may be triggering my Orage calendar? [05:45] Orange [05:46] Orage === R[a] ndom [n=random@bas9-toronto01-1279307092.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [05:48] OK there is no orage in init.d and no word orage in rc.local - any ideas? [05:49] is it possible that my Xfce graphic display is out of synch with setup files or something? [05:49] retour: just close it and save the session [05:49] apt-get remove --purge orage && apt-get install orage [05:49] vidd: that won't help === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #xubuntu [05:50] oh...i keep forgetting about that retarted "save session" crap [05:52] TheSheep: I'll do it once again to be sure BUT I tried it already I think [05:52] BRB === retour [n=ret@adsl-70-228-98-116.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has left #xubuntu [] === retour [n=ret@adsl-70-228-98-116.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:55] any luck? [05:56] hi! this crap poped back! And I killed it and than checked that save session is active [05:56] retour: try deleteing the session data [05:56] retour: in ~/.cache/sessions/ [05:56] everything I find there? [05:56] yes [05:56] ok === jarnos [n=jarnos@dsl-trebrasgw1-fea0fa00-245.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #xubuntu [05:59] ~/. means root directory or my home? [06:01] retour, your home === retour [n=ret@adsl-70-228-98-116.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has left #xubuntu [] === retour [n=ret@adsl-70-228-98-116.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:06] ok deleted everything from sessions cache but Orage popped up again! Any other ideas? [06:09] OK time to uninstall it [06:11] OK unistall is impossible as it wants to also uninstall Xfce desktop!!!! Who made such a crazy dependencies!?? [06:12] retour, xubuntu-desktop is a meta package...you can uninstall it without harm [06:12] Oh nice - Thank you! === retour [n=ret@adsl-70-228-98-116.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has left #xubuntu [] === Kilro1 [n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === retour [n=ret@adsl-70-228-98-116.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #xubuntu === triptec [n=triptec@85.8.5.107.static.se.wasadata.net] has joined #xubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #xubuntu [06:22] anyone who have had problems with rtorrent and moving finiched files [06:22] ?? === Catoptromancy [n=catw@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:29] triptec: no [06:30] retour, you good now? [06:30] hiho vidd === Kr4t05|Lap [n=andrew@dsl-206-251-14-4.dsl0.crls.pa.net] has joined #xubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #xubuntu === jessejazza [n=chatzill@host86-132-73-204.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === nalleman [n=bjorn@nl112-169-30.student.uu.se] has joined #xubuntu [06:43] hi, I would like to know what the file manager in xubuntu/xfce is? === CoRnJuLiOx [n=jrtuvera@cable-202-8-239-207.d-one.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:44] err... how does one rename multiple files at once? [06:45] i've got the dialog open, but i dont know how to change the names themselves [06:45] CoRnJuLiOx: how do you want them to be name? [06:45] d [06:46] nalleman: thunar [06:46] thanx [06:46] nalleman: that's the default one [06:47] TheSheep: ah i think i've got it figured out. well, i want em all to be numbered, from 7 - 26, and they've all got to have [WF] at the front of their names [06:47] CoRnJuLiOx: select 'numbering' from the first widget [06:48] TheSheep: are you related to the nick "sheepinpanic"? [06:48] TheSheep: got it. [06:48] hyper_ch: no [06:48] :) [06:49] TheSheep: err, i see i can use regexes to rename files. IIRC there are different flavors of regex, which one does thunar use? [06:50] CoRnJuLiOx: not sure, I think python's [06:51] damn straight :-) [07:00] ergh the regex doesn't seem to be working. could someone lend a hand? [07:01] CoRnJuLiOx: we would have to see it [07:01] i've got a file like this: [WF] _School_Rumble_-_25_[70A3E450] .avi, and i'm trying to strip the _s and the [70A3E450] at the end. [07:02] i've tried [A-Z0-9] $ to get the stuff at the end of the string [07:02] \[\w+\] [07:02] \[\w+\] $ [07:03] or \[[A-Z0-9] \] [07:03] nice [07:05] what about the underscores? can i do both in a single regex, or would i have to take two shots at it? === Nevermind [n=alex@i-195-137-124-156.freedom2surf.net] has joined #Xubuntu === Jester45 [n=ubuntu@75-121-97-114.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:06] CoRnJuLiOx: _|\[\w+\] $ [07:06] how do you install grub from the live cd, i tried sudo grub-install /dev/hda1 bit it says that it cound not fine device for /boot === The-Kernel [n=The-Kern@67-150-246-44.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:08] Jester45: how about sda1? [07:08] hda? sda? [07:10] not found [07:11] Jester45: well, then run the grub shell and do it manually [07:11] Jester45: type 'grub' and hit enter [07:11] k [07:11] Jester45: then type 'root (hd0,0) [07:11] ' [07:11] i get an error 17 with grub [07:11] then 'setup' [07:12] but it was working just fine the only thing i cahgned was removing the old kernels [07:13] Error 21: Selected disk does not exist [07:13] Jester45: put the back!! [07:13] them [07:15] TheSheep: that second one didn't work. it only removed the first _ after [WF] , the rest stayed. === jarnos [n=jarnos@dsl-trebrasgw1-fea0fa00-245.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #xubuntu [07:19] TheSheep: i ran grub as root and it didnt give the missing device error [07:20] but setup said error 11 unredconized device string [07:20] Jester45: setup hd0 [07:21] same thing [07:21] shoudl i do hd0,0 [07:21] that does work either === VinWista [n=chatzill@12-214-39-49.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:21] doesnt* [07:22] (hd0,0) [07:22] I don't remember the syntax :/ [07:22] !grub | Jester45 [07:22] Jester45: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto [07:22] i like vagina [07:22] !vagina [07:22] Sorry, I don't know anything about vagina - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [07:23] !language [07:23] Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. [07:23] !fagalter [07:23] Sorry, I don't know anything about fagalter - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi === Jester45 thinks we need an op here === mode/#xubuntu [+o TheSheep] by ChanServ [07:25] wtf! [07:25] TheSheep: i think that my first partition is messed up... i need to formate it [07:25] hall have martial memory, the Poets song engage; [07:25] For in Bellonas cradle was bred a brood of eight, [07:25] She tended them and nursed them while the big world did wait - [07:25] Napoleon, Duke Wellington, Charles, Blcher, Souvorov, [07:25] Karageorge, the tyrants scourge, Schwartzenberg and Koutozov. [07:25] Strong Ares made them drunken, intoxicate for glory, [07:25] The whole wide earth did give to them as theatre for their story! [07:25] Tis from the jungles great that lions great appear, [07:25] And tis the peoples mighty who genius should rear; [07:25] Great realms may breed the hero, grant space for glorious deeds. === VinWista was kicked off #xubuntu by TheSheep (TheSheep) [07:25] bye === mode/#xubuntu [+b *!*@12-214-39-49.client.mchsi.com] by TheSheep === predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu === mode/#xubuntu [-o The-Kernel] by TheSheep === mode/#xubuntu [-o TheSheep] by TheSheep [07:27] argh :) === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #xubuntu [07:35] :D === neozen [n=neozen@c-71-228-16-126.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:37] wow. [07:37] that was weird === vidd [n=vidd@neptune.intergrafix.net] has joined #xubuntu === wbadger [n=wbadger@bzq-82-81-160-6.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #xubuntu === retour [n=ret@adsl-70-228-98-116.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has left #xubuntu [] === DexF [n=dex@ip76.132.1511H-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #xubuntu [08:01] hi [08:01] installed xubuntu-desktop on kubuntu, using the same font but it looks different. how come? [08:03] next: i got xfce 4.3.99 - is there no 4.4.1? don't kubuntu and xubuntu sync their repos? [08:04] i just figured the font thing, wrong hinting settings. so nvm that one :P === retour [n=ret@adsl-70-228-98-116.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #xubuntu === tux1 [n=tux@cp69851-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #xubuntu [08:08] DexF: the repos are the same is one big repo for ubuntu xubuntu and kubuntu [08:09] you just have diffrent programs installed from it thats why you can use isntall xubuntu-desktop to get xfce and you dont have to add a new repo [08:09] Jester45: friend said hes running 4.4.1 - how come his is newer? [08:09] do you have feisty? or edgy [08:09] feisty [08:09] he, too [08:12] DexF, it is quite possible he compiled it from source [08:13] nah, not that guy. hmm. maybe he got a backport. gonna ask. [08:13] DexF: 4.4.1 is in gutsy [08:13] aha. iirc he mentioned a feisty-backports repos. that would explain it. [08:14] ok, mystery solved. next thing: how do I force xfce to assume 96DPI? [08:14] and: what's the fastest way to add launchers from the menu to the panel? drag and drop doesn't work [08:15] right-click on panel>choose "launcher">configure launcher [08:15] DexF: d&d works from desktop into the list in the launcher preferences [08:15] whoops...forgot click add [08:16] TheSheep: what do you mean, "from desktop"? [08:16] DexF: you can create launchers on the desktop [08:17] a tad long winded, huh? [08:17] DexF: it has a nice user interface, with autocompletion and automatic assigning of icons [08:17] DexF: yes, but that nice intrface is not yet connected to the panel launchers [08:17] DexF: it's work in progress [08:17] ok === retour [n=ret@adsl-70-228-98-116.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has left #xubuntu [] [08:24] so - any idea about the 96DPI thing? I could so it via the corg.conf but I'd prefer not to fsck around with that === retour [n=ret@adsl-70-228-98-116.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:25] *do it === cjae_ [n=cjae@64-110-250-84.msjw.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #xubuntu [08:25] Anybody had luck with runing LKL? [08:25] LKL??? [08:25] !lkl [08:25] Sorry, I don't know anything about lkl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [08:26] retour, what is that? [08:26] Linux Key Logger - this thing is not able to use own keymaps [08:26] Its in repos [08:26] DexF: you can set in in .config/xfce4/Xft.xrdb === maxamillion [n=adam@166.128.187.201] has joined #xubuntu [08:30] TheSheep: Xft.dpi: 96 <- like that? [08:30] DexF: yes [08:30] k, thanks [08:32] I get "*** The ncurses library is required!" when I run ./configure, but I have libncurses5 installed... what to do? [08:33] triptec: ncurses-dev [08:40] TheSheep: would you know why i cant copy anything from hda1 to hda3 without it saying there is no space left.... but hda3 has space [08:40] its only 22% used === ianinhoose [n=ianinhoo@host81-158-165-18.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu [08:45] Jester45: fat? [08:46] mmmmm ncurses === maxamillion drools [08:47] hda3 is ext3 hda1 was reiser now its partly broken [08:47] gparted says its ext3 (but i know its not) grub doesnt know what it is === Nevermind [n=alex@i-195-137-124-156.freedom2surf.net] has joined #Xubuntu === Ben_Cs [n=benny@212.150.114.161] has joined #xubuntu === SrRaven [n=SrRaven@xion.phxhost.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:48] hello [08:49] but... i need to go to work right now... im going to try a reinstall without formating my hda3 its the only one i really need === joakim__ [n=Leho@217-159-154-40-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === Mitsunari [i=HelemiP_@213-216-241-90-Tuira-TR1.suomi.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:05] Would someone be willing to extend a helping hand to a complete linux-newbie just getting started with xubuntu? [09:06] sure...what do you need? [09:06] Namely, getting my oldie Voodoo 3 card working properly. [09:06] what is the issue with it? [09:06] Can't get the screen resolutions to work [09:06] ./configure: line 21547: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(STUFF, sigc++-2.0 libcurl >= 7.12.0 libtorrent >= 0.11.6,' [09:07] it complains about STUFF... what to do? [09:07] There was something about modifying the xorg.conf on some forum... [09:07] yeah....sounds about right [09:07] what resolutions are available to you? [09:08] But since i can't modify that file using sudo, I'm kind of stuck. [09:08] what do you mean you cant modify it using sudo? [09:08] Only Default and 320x240 [09:09] oh...ouch! [09:09] Well... Trying to edit it with nano, but it won't let me save the file (prolly due to Xfce running) === Kilroo [n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [09:09] Like I said, complete newb :D [09:10] well....to modify it, you want to do this: [09:10] And since I have no idea how to kill Xfce... [09:11] Or is it with GDM? I seriously have no idea :D [09:11] sudo [put prefered text editor here] /etc/X11/xorg.conf [09:11] Done that [09:11] Edited the Refresh and Sync rates in [09:12] you do NOT need to kill Xfce to edit or save the file [09:12] But it didn't let me save it [09:12] in nano, you need to hit [ctrl] [x] [09:12] then [enter] [09:13] sorry...[ctrl] [x] ....[y] ....[enter] === highvoltage [n=highvolt@dsl-241-162-151.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #xubuntu [09:14] did you put "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"? [09:15] Error Writing to file etc/X11/xorg.conf: Permission [09:17] So, with my logig, either I do not have permission to edit that file, or some other program is using it (which shouldn't be the case?) [09:17] So that's kinda the problem :D [09:22] No insight? === Nevermind [n=alex@i-195-137-124-156.freedom2surf.net] has left #Xubuntu [] === benny_ [n=benny@212.150.114.161] has joined #xubuntu === benny___ [n=Ben@212.150.114.161] has joined #xubuntu === benny___ is now known as Ben_Cs [09:32] Is there some sirt of errorlog for nano somewhere? [09:32] sort, too === dog_boy [n=DogBoy@ip72-199-249-82.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:33] y use nano? [09:34] <- Totally newb when it comes to linux, so yes [09:34] Does USB and PS2 keyboards use different hardware ports ? [09:35] retour: yes as far as i know [09:36] Mitsunari: nano is ok, but i like gui one [09:36] so PS2 is port 0x60, what us for USB??? Or how to check it on my machine [09:38] retour: sorry, that i don't know. i'm pretty n00b myself [09:39] thats ok . thank you anyway === Ben_Cs [n=Ben@212.150.114.161] has joined #xubuntu [09:40] ./configure: line 21547: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(STUFF, sigc++-2.0 libcurl >= 7.12.0 libtorrent >= 0.11.6,' anyone who might know what it is that I miss? it complaines about STUFF [09:42] Mitsunari, sorry...im on a call @ work..... [09:42] you did not type nano [09:43] huh? === MBR666 [n=bryan@pool-70-16-43-154.buff.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === retour [n=ret@adsl-70-228-98-116.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has left #xubuntu [] === n-iCe [n=n-ice@189.134.120.60] has joined #xubuntu [09:46] hi [09:47] Mitsunari, hit [ctrl] [x] ...[n] .... then hit the [up arrow] and make sure that sudo is in front of nano....... [09:48] hmm [09:48] if it is not (and i will bet it isnt) hit the [home] key and type sudo [09:48] Uhm. [09:49] If I type sudo , it just asks me for my password first, and does nothing. After that, sudo and nothing happens :D === rokra_ [n=christor@ANancy-153-1-100-215.w86-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu [10:00] hrm.... [10:00] sounds like you dont have sudo rights [10:00] Ye [10:00] is this user the only user on this box? [10:01] yes [10:02] Apparently, I should have gone with the other choise, when I downloaded xubuntu... :/ [10:02] what other choice? [10:02] Since I downloaded the 6.06.1 version [10:03] are you using the live cd or did you already install? [10:03] installed way back :D [10:03] Don't ask me why :D [10:04] Yeah, well. Thanks for the help, I guess I'll be installing 7.04 tomorrow... [10:04] that will likely fix your issues [10:04] =] [10:05] Hopefully. [10:05] do this: nano /etc/group [10:05] Why is it never easy? :D [10:05] look for admin [10:06] do you see something like admin:x:109:vidd [10:07] where [vidd] would be your username [10:08] TheSheep, can you use nano in the recovery console? [10:09] there's adm and lpadmin, no admin [10:09] is sudo listed? [10:09] yes [10:10] sudo:x:57: [10:11] strange that there is no admin [10:11] do you know how to get grub to boot the recovery console? [10:12] for some reason, I couldn't get grub working, so it on lilo [10:13] are you getting the 7.04 live or alt cd? [10:13] i recomend the alt === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #xubuntu [10:17] i wonder why networking isn't set by default in xubuntu. [10:17] Ben_Cs, what do you mean? [10:17] network shared folders by other pc's [10:18] its coming in gutsy [10:18] vidd: i have to go through several config steps and installations to be able to work with my WinXP pc shared folders [10:18] vidd: i hope so [10:19] i wish it wasnt, but it is [10:19] vidd: why. you like doing everyrhing manually? === vidd prefers to use FTP [10:19] ftp for local net? why in the name of god? [10:20] to protect my systems from my windows machines [10:21] its not like my windows machines have anything worth while on them...why make files there shared so hackers have something easy to exploit? [10:23] heh === triptec [n=triptec@85.8.5.107.static.se.wasadata.net] has left #xubuntu [] === apit [n=apit@89.104.120.63] has joined #xubuntu === apit [n=apit@89.104.120.63] has left #xubuntu [] === apit [n=apit@89.104.120.63] has joined #xubuntu [10:32] vidd: and ftp is more protected than password protected folders? [10:33] Ben_Cs: yes [10:33] The-Kernel: good to know [10:33] but anyways i don't see a reason why would a hacker be interested in my comp [10:34] they are after companies, not individuals [10:35] The-Kernel: if i want to backup my xubuntu, i have to copy only the /usr and /home folders? [10:35] Ben_Cs: what if someone rather smart with computers you know becomes an enemy === rokra [n=christor@ANancy-153-1-100-215.w86-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu [10:35] I've had it happen [10:35] The-Kernel: i see [10:35] Ben_Cs: I only backup /home but yeah that'll work [10:36] Yay, it works! [10:36] The-Kernel: if u backup only home, you have to re-install all the progs again, no? [10:36] Ben_Cs: yes, but you need to understand, that it's better to reinstall all the programs [10:37] all the settings to those programs are saved in /home, so after you reinstall them it's like they've always been there === cosmi [n=simo_gnu@host158-131-dynamic.53-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #xubuntu [10:48] Ben_Cs, why would a hacker be interested in storing their illegal files and criminal activies on your system rather then their own comp.....hrm...let me think....=] [10:50] oh...and there is also all that valuable personal information stored on your pc (passwords, browsing history, etc) [10:51] vidd: you mean if a hacker needs a host pc to hack from? [10:51] and personal pc's are (generally) not as well protected against hackers as business computers.... [10:51] The-Kernel: i see. great [10:51] Ben_Cs, oh...there is that too [10:52] The-Kernel: then what i have to copy is not /home but only my user folder in home right? [10:52] Ben_Cs, i would recomend you save the whole /home directory.... [10:53] that way you dont forget that report you been working on for the last week.... [10:53] =] [10:53] vidd: well i have WinXP to play games, but when i have $$$ to buy PS3 i would be able to get rid of winblows === CoRnJuLi1x [n=jrtuvera@cable-202-8-239-207.d-one.net] has joined #xubuntu === kikr [n=ant@ool-435495ff.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #xubuntu === Pricey [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #xubuntu [11:09] yeah === ianinhoose [n=ianinhoo@host81-158-165-18.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === cosmi [n=simo_gnu@host158-131-dynamic.53-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #xubuntu [] === cosmi [n=simo_gnu@host158-131-dynamic.53-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #xubuntu === cosmi [n=simo_gnu@host158-131-dynamic.53-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #xubuntu [] [11:29] how do i do that when ipod is plugged in, amarok will be opened? === Ben_Cs [n=Ben@212.150.114.161] has joined #xubuntu [11:45] something happened and the damned amarok stopped working. is there another good app for ipod? [11:45] gtkpod [11:45] can it play music? [11:45] no [11:46] just add/delete [11:46] try Exaile [11:47] hmm been looking in add/remove. how's Rhythmbox? [11:48] Last I used it, it didn't work to well, but I think it can utilze your iPod [11:49] cool. i'll try [11:49] thanks [11:51] The-Kernel: suppose u have an ipod. what app would u choose from all the available? [11:52] The-Kernel: BTW, i use some KDE apps. is there a reason to prefer gtk apps over kde apps? [11:52] Ben_Cs: for all "4" of my iPods I use GTKpod [11:53] gtk is used over QT(KDE) [11:53] its lighter [11:53] I don't really care, my machines are pretty powerful [11:53] The-Kernel: is there an option in gtkpod to add disconnection line: eject /media/ipod? [11:53] Ben_Cs: yes [11:54] ok, i'll give it a try [11:54] i hope some day soon aplle will make itunes for linux [11:56] The-Kernel: when i press (in gtkpod) "load ipod" i get: Segmentation fault (core dumped) [11:56] no clue [11:57] Ben_Cs: they are currently in discussion about having iTunes in linux [11:58] gtkpod has only 1 first generation ipod preference? wtf? [11:59] maybe i should download the last version from getdeb.net? cause the repo. one is aufully buggy [12:01] Ben_Cs: that didn't help either. gtkpod sucks [12:02] someone wrote in a blog that grkpod don't work with new ipods... [12:08] that's wrong [12:08] I've used ALL the newest ones [12:08] they all work fine [12:08] Ben_Cs: I think your computer is a bit buggy === yotux [n=nathan@24-196-133-163.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [12:15] The-Kernel: tried ipod shuffle 2nd gen? [12:18] Ben_Cs: the small ones? [12:18] yes [12:18] like the REALLY small ones? [12:18] yes [12:18] yes [12:18] work fine with me [12:18] actually I take that back, I had one that didn't work right [12:18] the moment the plugged it into the windows machine, everything disappered [12:19] don't know. something wrong in my xubuntu maybe? just reinstalled xubuntu today. [12:19] except music put on from iTunes [12:19] Ben_Cs: why did you reinstall? [12:19] btw, banshee says it don't have codecs?! [12:19] The-Kernel: cause i screwd arround with it and it became buggy [12:20] didn't screw arround with it today though [12:20] Ben_Cs: what version? [12:21] 7.04 [12:21] oh [12:21] system specs? [12:22] intel e2160 cpu. 2G RAM. asrock motherboard. intel g950 graphics [12:23] The-Kernel: btw neither banshee nor rhythmbox have codecs to play files from my ipod... [12:24] sudo apt-get install ffmpeg [12:26] The-Kernel: i mean uadio files [12:27] *audio [12:32] yeah [12:35] didn't help. rhythmbox still shows the sign it can't play it [12:35] does it say which one? [12:37] i'll try to run it in terminal [12:39] damn, it print's hell lot of lines [12:40] here some: [12:40] ** Message: don't know how to handle audio/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)1, layer=(int)3 [12:41] /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found [12:42] haaa. to mach of an headache. i'll just use windows for ipod [12:43] The-Kernel: btw could it be that i didn't write something right in fstab and it affects something in gtkpod? [12:44] possibly [12:44] but basically if you see the iPof icon on desktop then fstab is working right [12:44] yeah install both lame and ffmpeg [12:44] i do see. let me show u the line: [12:45] /dev/sdb /media/ipod auto noauto,users,rw,sync 0 0 [12:45] is it ok? === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #xubuntu === The-Kern1l [n=The-Kern@67-150-254-54.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === The-Kern1l is now known as The-Kernel [12:56] sorry aboutthat [01:04] np [01:05] The-Kernel: finally! downloaded the really last version of gtkpod from getdeb. checking it now. at least the app doesn't crash, and has my ipod model in database [01:12] The-Kernel: xmms works great with gtkpod